There is a secret that holds the world s destiny in its grasp, and it's a dark, dark secret that only Big Brother and the mainstream media know about. Big Brother, Big Daddy, Big Pharma, Big Government, Big Business, Big Politics, Big Money, Big Lies, and Big Lies. You want answers? Well, so does he.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
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00:00:55.000We had Charlie Sheen on with us on Monday and that has sent shockwaves across the media here in this country and around the world as he exposed his grave concerns about the ongoing cover-up of the truth of what happened on September 11.
00:01:09.000September 11 was a military-industrial complex attack that dwarfs Hitler's Reichstag fire February 27, 1933.
00:01:27.000And history was again made last night, when CNN allowed me to go on live, unedited, and with no restrictions, to expose government involvement in September 11th.
00:01:39.000It was absolutely amazing, and an audio clip of that is coming up later In this hour, Charlie Sheen will again be joining us.
00:02:04.000And we are really looking forward to having him on.
00:02:07.000And so I'd say 98% chance he will be joining us last 30 minutes of the show today, just to respond to the international media coverage and have some more statements about September 11th as well Also, a real 9-11 expert that I respect, Webster Tarpley, who's been exposing government-sponsored terror for over 20 years and also wrote the unauthorized biography of George Bush Sr.
00:02:31.000He's going to be joining us coming up in the second hour, and he'll be with us right up until the last 30 minutes of the broadcast when Mr. Sheen joins us.
00:02:38.000So he'll be with us for an hour and a half today.
00:02:41.000So Webster Tarpley and, of course, Charlie Sheen, right here on the Alex Jones Show on the GCN Radio Network.
00:02:54.000We pointed out, of course, in the middle of the big Dubai...
00:03:00.000world's port deal out of the UAE based company coming to take over the 21 major US ports in fact over half of the deepwater major ports in the country from the British owned company which was Oriental Steam Navigation and Bush said he didn't care what the people wanted he was going to do it but he had to back down well now they're just having Halliburton take that over for the UAE
00:03:27.000...based company, Dubai Ports World, and so we'll be getting into that.
00:03:31.000But to add insult to injury, we documented how Clinton and our own government had handed over the Panama Canal and major ports like Long Beach Naval Base to the Communist Chinese-run company, Hutchinson Wampo.
00:03:44.000And out of the Associated Press today, ladies and gentlemen, out of the Associated Press, we have an outrage of outrages.
00:03:54.000hiring Hong Kong company, and it's not.
00:03:57.000Chinese government run, that's admitted, to scan cargo.
00:04:01.000The Bush administration says it is finalizing a no-bid contract with Hutchison Wampoa Ltd.
00:04:07.000It acknowledged the deal was the first time a foreign company will be involved in running a radiation detector in an overseas port without American custom agents present.
00:04:17.000Now, there's three things in that one paragraph that are bombshell.
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00:08:09.000The best way to kick this broadcast off, I think, is to, instead of setting it up for you to just play it, CNN had tried to get a hold of me on Wednesday and was unable to, so they had some other great folks like Webster Tarpel, who just so happens to be joining us in the next hour, on, and they also had the folks from 9-11
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00:10:09.000And I'm Brooke Anderson, live in Hollywood.
00:10:11.000A.J., it's been incredible, pretty hard to believe actually, the response we got today to the incredible story show that broke last night after Charlie Sheen's startling claims that the government may be covering up what really happened on September 11th.
00:10:28.000Between the emails, the blogs, the websites, everybody is writing and talking about it.
00:10:32.000Charlie Sheen made the comments during a hard-to-believe interview on a radio show.
00:10:36.000And don't move, because in just a moment, the host of the radio show, the guy who actually spoke with Sheen, is going to join me live here on Showbiz tonight.
00:10:43.000But first, let's get you up to speed on the latest developments.
00:10:48.000The more you look at stuff, especially specific incidents, specific events around the fateful day, it just raises a lot of questions.
00:11:00.000The questions Charlie Sheen is raising about the 9-11 attacks are raising a lot of eyebrows.
00:11:05.000Our email inbox immediately started to overflow, and the coverage on Showbiz Tonight is getting a lot of attention.
00:11:12.000The website 9-11 Blogger calls Showbiz Tonight's coverage, quote, the first time a major news station has covered 9-11 questions in any reasonable format.
00:11:21.000It all started with a radio interview Sheen gave to GCN Radio Network host Alex Jones, a cult hero of sorts to 9-11 conspiracy theorists.
00:11:30.000Well, during the interview, Sheen made clear that he backs Jones' views.
00:11:34.000We're not the conspiracy theorists on this particular issue.
00:11:37.000It seems to me like, you know, 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets.
00:11:50.000Sheen also made another shocking suggestion that we may not know the full story about the collapse of the World Trade Center.
00:11:57.000I have a hard time believing that a fireball traveled down the elevator over 1,100 feet and still had the explosive energy to destroy the lobby like it was described.
00:12:11.000I said, hey, call me insane, but did it sort of look like those buildings came down in a controlled demolition?
00:12:20.000When I was your age, I could only dream about my parents splitting up.
00:12:24.000As the star of the hit sitcom Two and a Half Men, Shane is seen weekly by about 10 million people.
00:12:29.000And many of them may end up paying attention to his controversial comments on 9-11.
00:12:37.000As I mentioned, the radio host who interviewed Sheen is Alex Jones of the Genesis Communications Network.
00:12:42.000Alex joins me live from Austin, Texas to talk about Sheen's riveting comments.
00:12:46.000Alex, as I mentioned, the response that we got from doing this story last night, absolutely shocking.
00:12:50.000So I want to know how it actually all came about.
00:12:53.000How did the interview with Charlie Sheen actually happen?
00:14:38.000In fact, it's dangerous for him to do.
00:14:39.000But he said, I love this country and my kids so much that I'm going to do this, Alex.
00:14:43.000And I said, God bless you, because now it may spur other Hollywood people who've got major pull, who know the truth, to start going public.
00:14:49.000And dangerous indeed to do because a lot of what he said makes a lot of people sort of sit back and say, whoa, I don't know about that.
00:14:56.000And what's really important here, you may not agree with everything that Charlie Sheen had to say.
00:15:02.000I personally think it's a good thing that he did go on your show so he could go public with his point of view because it does get people talking.
00:15:09.000You know, there are a lot of people who may look at this, however, and say, there just goes another Hollywood nutjob shooting off his mouth.
00:15:15.000I imagine that you think, though, having a Hollywood actor on your side is a good thing, and as you mentioned, may bring some more people to the table talking about this.
00:15:25.000I mean, if you knew some of the Hollywood names that are aware of 9-11, we're talking some of the biggest people.
00:15:30.000And any you can tell us about that you've been in contact with?
00:15:32.000No, I can't, because people in Hollywood contact me because I have integrity, and I've been in a few films, and they know me, and they know I keep my mouth shut.
00:15:40.000You know, it was kind of like back in high school, I learned to keep my mouth shut about girls I was dating, and all the girls start liking me.
00:16:12.000There have been physics professors that have gone public.
00:16:14.000There have been the heads of mining colleges that have gone public.
00:16:19.000Seniors, top CIA advisor who briefed him and briefed Ronald Reagan, one of the highest level guys in the CIA, says our government is clearly involved in carrying out terror to blame it on foreign enemies.
00:16:29.000Did you know that on CIA.gov, they admit that they carried out terror attacks in 1953 to blame it on Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran as a pretext to overthrow the government?
00:16:38.000I'm going to reign you back in here to the topic at hand.
00:16:45.000One thing that I think is interesting, as I mentioned, we've gotten this overwhelming response.
00:16:51.000Most of the email I've been getting has been supporting the fact that we are bringing attention to something that is rarely talked about in mainstream media.
00:16:59.000No one else has done what you're doing.
00:17:01.000And I appreciate you saying that, so the question is why?
00:17:03.000Why have so many of the major media outlets not talked about these alternative theories that exist behind 9-11?
00:17:10.000Mark Twain said that, in the beginning, a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared and scorned.
00:17:15.000But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
00:17:19.000A lot of people don't have the courage that you have, A.J.
00:17:23.000A lot of people don't have the courage of Charlie Sheen.
00:17:25.000They don't have the courage of the German Defense Minister, Andres von Busen.
00:17:28.000What do you think they're afraid of that's going to happen to them?
00:17:32.000They're afraid of being beaten up by the hordes of neocon intimidators who try to go out there with their Gestapo Nazi tactics to try to bludgeon everybody with their blogs and radio shows to shut up.
00:17:44.000But they've lost power because people have learned that they're a bunch of liars, they lied about the WMDs, they've lied about everything, and now their credibility is totally blown.
00:17:53.000The new White House memo just came out where Bush was talking about staging the shoot-down of American planes to blame it on Saddam.
00:18:02.000Let's talk about some public documents because obviously experts, government commissions, countless officials have all come out and supported what is the official line.
00:18:11.000Well, we know that those documents are out there and that people are supporting them, so I guess what some people watching us tonight may be thinking is, well, why the heck should I be listening to Charlie Sheen or to Alex Jones and his website on this matter?
00:18:26.000They shouldn't believe me, they shouldn't believe you, they shouldn't believe George Bush, they shouldn't believe the King Commission, where almost the entire commission has conflicts of interest and was appointed by Bush.
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00:24:17.000They set this up months ago to beer today.
00:24:21.000And so they get the shell-shocked Alex Jones, exhausted with two or three hours sleep last night because I was on Coast to Coast AM and did CNN before that and a bunch of other...
00:24:53.000I tell ya, I was going to come in tonight and work on the new documentary film.
00:24:57.000I'll just inform my video editor that's coming up here that he can come up here and work, but I'm not going to be here.
00:25:01.000Because as soon as I'm done with all these interviews, I'm going to go crawl into my bed.
00:25:06.000I'm going to turn the air conditioner down to about 60 in my bedroom, and I'm going to go hibernate for a while.
00:25:13.000You know, I don't normally whine on air, but I'm just saying it for the Danish TV cameras here.
00:25:21.000I can tell that I'm a little bit punch drunk here.
00:25:23.000Let's get back to the piece from CNN's great show with A.J.
00:25:30.000Hammer that I'm just really impressed with, Trailblazing.
00:25:34.000The first time that we've seen mainstream, mainline, marquee media allow someone to go on live, and they've done it twice now, two nights in a row, myself and others, and to tell the truth and give the alternative view of what happened on September 11th, and I'll be back on Showbiz tonight, coming up this evening, 7 o'clock Eastern, 6 o'clock Central, and then it re-airs later.
00:25:58.000So check CNN Headline News for schedules in your part of the world.
00:26:03.000And I know it is available throughout the planet where they have satellite and cable.
00:26:08.000Let's go ahead and go back to the conclusion of the CNN piece.
00:26:13.000Well, let's talk about some public documents because obviously experts, government commissions, countless officials have all come out and supported what is the official line.
00:26:21.000Yeah, they call Henry Kissinger independent.
00:26:23.000Well, we know that those documents are out there and that people are supporting them.
00:26:27.000So I guess what some people watching us tonight maybe think it is, well, why the heck should I be listening to Charlie Sheen or to Alex Jones and his website on this matter?
00:26:47.000He appoints his own commission, and then the media calls it independent.
00:26:50.000Did you know that the 9-11 White Watch Commission claimed there were no columns in Tower 1 and 2 when they had 47 of the biggest columns in the world up until that time?
00:27:00.000They won't say why Building 7 has blast points going off down the side.
00:27:05.000Alex, I'm afraid I've got to cut you off because we're out of time.
00:27:07.000But as I said, it's a sparking debate, it's getting people talking, and I appreciate you helping.
00:28:34.000And it's been 82% ever since, with 14,254 votes cast, and you can only vote once, folks, so that's good.
00:28:37.000254 votes cast, and you can only vote once, folks, so that's good.
00:28:43.000It is 82% to 18 out of 14,254 total votes, 11,713 votes saying that they agree with Charlie Sheen about the 9-11 cover-up, and we've got 2,541 votes saying that they buy the official line and believe in the votes saying that they buy the official line and believe in the No, actually, let me be serious here.
00:29:06.000Do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S.
00:29:08.000government covered up the real events of the 9-11 attacks?
00:29:12.00082% say yes, and 18% say no, they don't agree with Charlie Sheen.
00:29:18.000So, more than 8 out of 10 people agree with us.
00:29:23.000And by the way, that isn't the only poll.
00:29:25.000Another poll conducted by Anderson Cooper a year ago When they closed it out, it had 90%, and that's posted on our websites as well, and links over to CNN where it's posted.
00:29:38.000So, I guess, you know, we're the conspiracy theorists, huh?
00:29:42.000Well, I guess those of you that buy the government conspiracy theory, you're getting to be a smaller and smaller minority, aren't ya?
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00:33:22.000uh... we're gonna be taking your calls here in this show and get into the whole Communist Chinese government takeover of our port security.
00:33:35.000That's who mainstream news admits runs Hutchinson Wampoa.
00:33:39.000Chinese naval generals of their Navy are capped in all Hutchinson Wampoa ships.
00:33:46.000They are intelligence vessels, each and every one of them, and most of their crews.
00:33:51.000This is admitted are PLA naval officers and PLA Chinese military commandos.
00:33:58.000Now, you can go read that In Congressional intelligence declassified testimonies going back eight years ago during the controversy when Clinton in 96 began handing over Long Beach and other ports.
00:34:11.000It came out in 2000 when the Communist Chinese such as Owampo finally took over the Panama Canal.
00:34:16.000And now even the Washington Times admits tens of thousands of Chinese troops are in Panama.
00:34:22.000I mean you talk about encirclement, you talk about a science fiction horror movie, this is it.
00:34:26.000Now I want to go back into Shane for a second.
00:34:27.000I want to just state something for the record.
00:34:31.000I knew what I was doing last night when I went on CNN.
00:34:33.000No one has ever gotten on national TV, not the 9-11 truth people, not the other great folks that have gone on, not Jimmy Walters, none of them, and said the government absolutely did it.
00:34:48.000They just said the government's covering up and clearly there were bombs and blah blah blah.
00:34:51.000I clearly went on and fingered the government And I understood that it was the equivalent of whistling past my grave, but my family and my children and your children are worth it.
00:35:03.000And if our forefathers at Bunker Hill could face, what, six, seven times their numbers in trained, battle-hardened redcoats who'd never been defeated, and if Andrew Jackson could face Lord Wellington's Invincibles at New Orleans, which took a hundred times the courage of what I did, then I could do this.
00:35:26.000Now granted, it's a little more spooky to know it's shadowy intelligence forces and assassins and others that routinely kill people like you'd step on a cockroach running across our kitchen floor.
00:35:38.000At certain levels, it's better to just face the enemy as they roll against you and to be able to physically deal with it.
00:35:46.000Frankly, I and many levels of my psyche would just rather have it straight up like that so I'd know what I was dealing with.
00:35:55.000The establishment does not like it when it's just thrown directly in their face on national TV.
00:36:49.000and uh... and uh... and and and the key to this is being up front saying we know killers run this government saying we know we're in danger gives us uh... the best insurance policy we've got so I want everybody to remember the type of courage I'm not tooting my horn here but the type of courage that Charlie Sheen has shown and really the survival instinct that I'm showing here against a criminal elite that carries out terror attacks I mean when there's declassified documents and admissions and we know how they carry it out we have a duty to talk about it
00:37:19.000That's what I started doing four and a half years ago on the day of 9-11.
00:37:25.000I hope people realize that I have sworn my trust, my sacred honor, my treasure, Everything on this, and I do hold it up to God and His Divine Providence.
00:37:56.000And I think God is opening windows for people to at least be warned and let America know the truth before we get judged further.
00:38:05.000In fact, let me just go to the Declaration of Independence, page 26 in my Citizen Rulebook here.
00:38:10.000Let me just read, as I did a few days ago, what the Founding Fathers said.
00:38:17.000We therefore, the representatives of the United States of America and General Congress assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world,
00:38:24.000For the rectitude of our intentions, due in the name and by authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent states, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British crown, and that all political connections between them and the state of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved, and that a free and independent
00:38:50.000States that have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliance, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do, and for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, amen to that, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.
00:39:37.000It will run you over one way or the other.
00:39:40.000You can either lay down to it or you can stand up and fight it and try to defeat it.
00:39:44.000You can listen to all your phony preachers telling you to lay down.
00:39:48.000You can listen to them twisting the scripture to tell you to go along with the New World Order, to go along with tyranny, that you're supposed to lay there and get your guts torn out by these wolves.
00:40:01.000We have to stand up for our future progeny, for those that will see us as their ancestors.
00:40:09.000And we stand on the shoulders in an unbroken chain with our ancestors throughout all of human existence who have always struggled against the strong men, the king rats, the dictators, the abusive kings, the oligarchies.
00:40:22.000And we stand against these inbred scum who are completely corrupt and who are sadistic and have no right to steer the affairs and the dynamic human process.
00:40:33.000They have been running us down a rat hole.
00:40:35.000They have been suppressing technological developments.
00:41:25.000I'm worried about the little ones who don't know and who are innocent.
00:41:28.000And as warriors, as men, and as women, When the enemy comes into the cave, when the enemy comes in to take us captive or to kill us, or when the enemy comes in to devour us, we must rally with our full intellect and our physical prowess to fully engage.
00:41:53.000And by exposing the terrorism, by standing up against it, by resisting it, We may stop the New World Order from engaging in more terror attacks, because if enough people realize they're behind it, and enough people won't go along with their program, they will be forced to stop it.
00:42:08.000They will be forced to stop engaging in it.
00:42:10.000Now, I just want to briefly get into the whole port situation.
00:42:13.000We'll take calls and then get more into it.
00:42:34.000Congressional documents, mainstream news, China, the government of China openly owns the majority stock in the company and their officers and their first mates on all of these ships are Officers in the Chinese military.
00:42:56.000And many of their sailors are Navy scrubs as well.
00:43:14.000And we yelled about it when Bill Clinton did it.
00:43:16.000Now, at the major nexus point Where many of the larger ships come in and then offload into smaller freighters to be brought into Houston and brought into Corpus Christi and brought into New Orleans and brought into Miami.
00:43:33.000They are taking over the entire infrastructure and now it's not bad enough that five years ago they took over Freeport Bahamas.
00:43:41.000Now they are going to run the security there.
00:43:46.000Let me read from Directly from the Associated Press, quote, the Bush administration says it is finalizing a no-bid contract with Hutchinson Wampoa LTD that acknowledges the deal is the first time a foreign company will be involved in running a radiation detector at an overseas port without American Customs agents present.
00:44:11.000And that is a holding, again, of the United States, a protectorate, a possession.
00:44:16.000Not a protectorate, excuse me, a possession.
00:44:18.000And now just listen to that one paragraph.
00:44:32.000You understand that they started this new thing in Iraq where they will only give Halliburton and a few other companies just massive multi-billion dollar contracts on a monthly basis.
00:45:10.000Now, they're going to give the Communist Chinese military, and that is not an exaggeration, that is the exact thing, that is precisely what this is.
00:45:24.000A no-bid contract when I guarantee you, I guarantee you an American company or another nation more friendly than the Communist Chinese who routinely threaten to nuke and attack this country.
00:45:40.000Do you understand the magnitude of that?
00:45:45.000And then it goes on to say that it's the first time this has happened, and it goes on to say that it is the first time there will be no customs agents overseeing this.
00:45:56.000And they've already caught the Communist Chinese companies at Long Beach.
00:46:00.000LA Times, 1996, before they even controlled the Long Beach Naval Base, they caught them at the Long Beach port bringing in heroin, And 3,000 AK-47s.
00:46:12.000And then they caught another Chinese control company shipping in LAWS rockets, and that is Rocket Propelled Grenades, to be precise, LAWS rockets, a U.S.
00:46:22.000designed small bazooka, to be technical, RPGs, Rocket Propelled Grenades.
00:46:31.000I mean, this is just... Again, it's past fly light zone.
00:48:47.000Okay, the more people's left, right, we've been Clinton-ized and Bush-flashed for a long time, but people get away from that.
00:48:52.000Then they realize you had Republicans, you had Democrats, you had Liberals defending you, whereas the more people find out the truth, you can see.
00:49:01.000But everybody is so important, even people in nursing homes who can't do nothing except pray.
00:49:07.000Everybody is so important, it's unbelievable in God's sight.
00:49:27.000You know, if they do kill me, they're going to demonize me after they kill me.
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00:49:36.000That's one thing I'm frustrated by, that if they kill me, then I'm going to have all these plants attacking me after I'm dead, and a lot of you poor folks out there are going to buy their lies.
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00:56:22.000And, uh, who buzzed on after him is Jerry Doyle.
00:56:25.000And for three hours, Jerry Doyle totally trashed Charlie Sheen.
00:56:29.000I was, I was just like, Oh man, they have called out every gun.
00:56:33.000They're all a bunch of old, dirty, hippie beatniks who couldn't take down this country in the sixties, so the wolves changed into sheep's clothing.
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00:56:55.000Well, George Clooney said that at the Oscars they were the one crowd that would point a spotlight on Issues that needed to be brought up in the public eye and I just hope that George Clooney jumps on this too.
00:57:07.000What happened was I was listening online and they cut off the last 10 minutes of the podcast online and then you replayed it in the third hour thankfully.
00:57:14.000So they did, I think they were immediately attacking it, and somebody was listening, you know, as soon as you put Charlie Sheen on, because, man, the waves instantly started blowing.
00:57:25.000Both servers in Chicago and California were hit, and both the server outfits sent us back, you know, reports saying, yeah, I forget the exact code for it, but it's a flood attack.
00:57:37.000Yeah, and that's the only time, and I've been listening for almost four years now of mine.
00:57:41.000Listen, we had not announced she was coming on air thirty minutes before he came on and the attack began.
00:58:11.000So the Tribe.net Political Junkies website, they did an awesome story on you and included the Info Wars and the Prison Planet website addresses.
00:58:32.000He said that he was involved personally, that Charlie Sheen's father called Gary Doyle, and they went over there to do an intervention on him.
00:58:39.000And they just started making him look at...
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00:59:16.000Right now to the Shugan Hour, expert on the New World Order on government-sponsored tariff.
00:59:21.000Webster Griffin Tarverley, author of 9-1-1, Synthetic Terror, Made in USA, joining us coming up in the next segment, then Charlie Sheen is scheduled in the last 30 minutes of this hour to respond to all the great folks out there that are supporting him, and to respond to the scumbag neocon dirtbag hippies.
01:00:06.000They'll probably close the poll in the next few hours, so go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.
01:00:10.000The top story is about the poll, and you can read about that and link through to the poll, and vote on whether you agree with Charlie Sheen about government involvement or government cover-up of 9-11, or if you agree with now the 17% of people
01:00:23.000Well, I guess it'd be 16% of people that agree with the official line, and also the people who, again, believe in mermaids, and people who believe in unicorns, and they also believe in hobgoblins, and Bugs Bunny, and they believe in WMDs.
01:00:41.000They still believe WMDs were found, and they believe in a fantasy world.
01:00:46.000They believe George Bush is a conservative, not a gun-grabbing, open-border-promoting, New World Order puppet of the globalists.
01:00:54.000Let's go ahead and go back to your calls.
01:01:01.000I'd just like to tell a new world order right now that if anything happens to you, your name will become a battle cry like remember the Alamo.
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01:01:14.000And anyway, what I called in about, I'd just like to hear you maybe comment a little about this is great that this can of worms is open now.
01:01:23.000But I'm afraid it's going to get blamed on the wrong people.
01:01:27.000I hope when you get on your forum tonight that you can plant some seeds about the New World Order.
01:01:35.000Well, I think, sure, I said military, industrial, complex, and global is the same thing.
01:02:17.000Hi Alex, I was wondering, with the federal control of New Orleans and the surrounding areas, and Panama, as you've already discussed, and the state that it's in, thanks to Bill Clinton, what are the chances of, do you think, have you considered Russia and China, who worked unprecedented war games to You know what?
01:02:51.000All these military high-level officers who were in the Pentagon, in the Joint Chiefs, standing behind the officers, standing behind the different chairmen, the different members said this.
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01:10:36.000Now we are joined by Webster Griffin Tarbly, who wrote back in, I guess, 1991 or so, the unauthorized biography of George Herbert Walker Bush, and he's now written one of the best books, I think, if not the best, on 9-11, and his analysis mirrors mine, how they did it, how they carried it out.
01:10:52.000And we carry that book at InfoWars.com in the video and bookstore, and that is 9-1-1 Synthetic Terror, made in the USA.
01:11:00.000And Webster, it is a great honor to have you joining us for the next hour and 20 minutes.
01:11:06.000Then we're scheduled to have Charlie Sheen on with us for the last 30 minutes.
01:11:22.000And the CNN poll is now running 83% agree with him out of, let me click on it, I think it's something like 14,000 respondents.
01:11:32.000Let me just click on it and go there and tell people what it's currently saying out of Out of a total of 16,150 votes, 13,364, or 83%, agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S.
01:11:45.00013,364, or 83%, agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of 9-11 attacks.
01:11:52.000And only 17% agree with the official fairy tale, 2,786 votes out of 16,150.
01:11:59.000And that is CNN Showbiz Tonight's major poll on that.
01:12:05.000And they're saying they've never had a response to a story anywhere near this.
01:12:09.000This is the pulse of the American people, Webster.
01:12:11.000Well, I think, as Charlie put it, the worm is turning, the dams are breaking.
01:12:15.000And maybe I could just comment on what I see is behind this.
01:12:19.000Just in the past week, we've had your interview with Charlie Sheen.
01:12:24.000We've had the New York Magazine article on the 9-11 Truth Movement and this lecture series we had going at St. Louisville.
01:12:33.000Mark's in the Bowery Church down in Lower Manhattan.
01:12:36.000That was an article which contained a mass of factual material, more than enough to destroy the official version.
01:12:42.000There had already been an article in the Village Voice around February 21st about that same lecture series.
01:12:50.000Then we've had this Showbiz Tonight program with AJ Hammer, which was very, very skeptical and basically rejected the official version.
01:12:58.000Now, what I think is going on in the background is something like this.
01:13:01.000This is a preliminary assessment, but my best guess at the moment.
01:13:07.000ruling class, that means some finance oligarchs, in the Wall Street to London axis, have decided that Bush-Cheney may well be insane and out of control, and that it's time to make these puppets act like the puppets they're supposed to be, and take away their...
01:13:27.000So it's kind of like how they set up Hitler...
01:13:29.000They thought he got too big for his britches?
01:13:31.000Well, I would compare it to Nixon, and I'd like to do the comparison to Nixon in some detail, but just to set the stage a little bit.
01:13:38.000Well, let me be specific with you, Webster, because I agree with you.
01:13:40.000That's what my guts and all the analysis is saying.
01:13:43.000So we're on the same page as usual, because we're just looking at the facts here and going off the historical lens.
01:13:49.000Do you believe it's a split in the Anglo-American New World Order power bloc, or do you believe it is a split out of the more European elite?
01:13:56.000Because we know that split in the European elite from our moles inside Bilderberg Group, that had already emerged.
01:14:02.000So do you believe it is a widening split between the European junction with the Anglo-American British US Empire system and the oligarchy, or do you believe it is a split within the Anglo-American establishment itself?
01:14:15.000Well, my basic approach to analysis on this stuff is you have Wall Street and you have the City of London, and that's primary.
01:14:22.000The rest of them are junior partners, if they're lucky.
01:14:25.000It basically goes from London to New York, and then the tentacles of New York, of course, are everywhere.
01:14:31.000But still, the old guard elite has a large voting bloc when they have the syndicate meetings.
01:14:38.000Well, again, I don't know if there's a consensus on this.
01:14:41.000I would say right now it's a minority.
01:14:43.000Well, my consensus is from Bilderberg Intelligence that it's always proven to be spot on.
01:14:48.000Well, I think there's at least an active group which is alarmed by the insanity of Bush Cheney.
01:14:54.000This remark that Bush made this week that the U.S.
01:14:57.000forces will be in Iraq through 2009, I think has appalled a lot of them.
01:16:06.000I think that the oligarchs feel that if the attack on Iran takes place, their system is doomed.
01:16:12.000The dollar is doomed, and the system of U.S.-British world domination is going to be doomed.
01:16:17.000So what they want to do is get Bush and Cheney back on a leash.
01:16:20.000And therefore, what they're doing is brandishing, they're agitating the red flag of Making September 11th into the new Watergate tapes.
01:16:29.000Let me just take you back, because this would be... Well, no, Webster, I said this three years ago.
01:16:33.000I said there's a certain elite who is allowing us to... that 9-11 was actually done with an escape valve for the higher level elites.
01:16:42.000Well, I think what these ruling class circles have in mind is what we would have to call a limited hangout.
01:16:47.000and CEOs like Bush and Cheney that they have in the titular head position, and that in the end it will be America that is blamed for it, and that they'll try to limit it to, quote, some right-wing nuts instead of the larger picture.
01:17:02.000Well, I think what these ruling class circles have in mind is what we would have to call a limited hangout.
01:17:07.000In other words, they're not proposing to tell the whole truth.
01:17:10.000And I think you can see that in the revelations, for example, so far, none of the corporate media is talking about the way in which the 9-11 operations were run through military drills and terror drills in the U.S., military security bureaucracy.
01:17:27.000I think they're going for something more limited.
01:17:34.000Alexander Butterfield, deputy assistant to Nixon, Tells the Watergate Investigating Committee, there's a taping system in the White House.
01:17:42.000So Butterfield is the one who reveals it.
01:17:45.000I think what these ruling class circles are considering right now is using September 11th as an equivalent of the Watergate tapes.
01:17:54.000So we have to look now on the horizon.
01:17:56.000Is there a Butterfield about to come forward?
01:17:59.000Is there a Deep Throat about to come forward?
01:18:02.000I have been looking closely at the Musawi trial in Alexandria, Virginia.
01:18:06.000That is a possible Place where more thoroughgoing revelations... Because we're now learning that the FBI agents are going, we told you 75 times he was going to do this, and you told us to stand down.
01:18:17.000So really what's coming out now in America is W1999, which these neocons denied existed, even when the BBC admitted it.
01:18:25.000Well, I think what you see in the Alexandria trial is simply the stubborn refusal of the moles in the FBI to arrest the patsies, Moussaoui and his circles, Who are, of course, psychotics, fanatics, and controlled assets, but they wanted to keep the moles free, because without the moles out of jail, you can't commit the actions and blame it on the moles.
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01:23:35.000I want to get your take on this right now.
01:23:38.000Just because I get emails on this, I get calls, people on the street, why are you guys still alive if this is true?
01:23:44.000Well, they have killed a lot of us and imprisoned a lot of us, and I mean, I've been physically attacked before in a parking lot and told to shut up by four hired goons, but I mean, there's too many of us, and God's on our side, I believe, and on top of that, they don't want to turn us into martyrs, but give me your take on that.
01:23:58.000Well, you have to look at a totalitarian system like the one in East Germany under communist rule, and you'll see that even under the most pervasive, open, blatant, brutal totalitarianism, you can mount a resistance.
01:24:12.000And in this country, there are still ample means of doing it.
01:24:16.000I think people are more frightened than they need to be.
01:24:19.000They need to be more active and less frightened.
01:24:22.000And you will find that you can do a great deal.
01:24:24.000And indeed, this current system is based primarily on apathy, passivity, people not voting, not agitating, not demonstrating, not telling their congressmen, you know, reading the Riot Act.
01:24:38.000So I think it's time for great activism right now.
01:24:41.000Well, I know you want to get into all the details of what you think is going on and 9-11 and talk more about the Shane situation, but this is a short segment.
01:24:52.000What do you think is going to happen in the next month, the next six months, the next year?
01:24:56.000I'm hoping that out of this Moussaoui trial, we've had the prosecution phase, we still have the defense phase of the Moussaoui trial, which is absolutely wild because the man is of course a psychotic patsy and he doesn't know what he's doing, but he may be used.
01:25:10.000Somebody may put something in front of him and he may just read it.
01:25:13.000Again, for some kind of a version of the Watergate tapes, but this time on September 11th to emerge, or a deep throat on September 11th to emerge and blow the lid off the issue in the way that happened in the spring of 1973 vis-a-vis Watergate.
01:25:28.000The task of all of us is to make sure that these revelations don't just involve some people in the FBI or the puppets Cheney and Bush, but rather go right to the heart of the matter, which is that invisible government Rogue network that's inside the government.
01:26:14.000They give us a false victory, remove Bush, or whatever, for some other corruption issue, and then he steps aside, and then we get a Governor Warner from Virginia, we get a Hillary Clinton, and I mean, they're exactly the same.
01:26:29.000Yes, I would in particular, I would warn people on the Democratic side, if you look at Hillary Clinton, she is an odious warmonger, she is basically trying to sell herself, that she is a bigger and better warmonger than Bush Cheney, that she can bring European troops, foreign money, wage war in more countries, and I think this is just appalling.
01:26:51.000It's clear to me that one of the two major parties must go.
01:26:54.000One of them has got to collapse, and I think the good news is that if one of them collapses, the other one will collapse too, because the only reason to vote Republican is because of the horrors of the Democrats, and the only reason to vote for the Democrats is because of the horrors Of the Republicans.
01:27:08.000Why is Bush doing things that are politically suicidal, like now on the heels of the UAE deal, something that dwarfs it, letting a known communist Chinese military company, and that's admitted, take over port security in the Bahamas, with no U.S.
01:27:24.000Remember that Bush is a liberal Republican banker born in a bank, in effect.
01:27:43.000They say, we want to have the war of civilizations, hatred of Muslims, hatred of Islam, we want to have xenophobia, and we want to have the absolute supremacy of cosmopolitan finance capital that runs all over the world and has the race to the bottom.
01:27:56.000And they love the Emir of Dubai because he's a degenerate just like them.
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01:32:25.000And Webster, I want to go through some calls, and then we've got plenty of time with you to go back into your analysis of 9-11 and talk about your book, 9-11, Synthetic Terror.
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01:33:54.000You know, mugged him, asked him for his wallet.
01:33:58.000Oh yeah, they took his grandmother's purse from him and he didn't object, you know, didn't put up a fight or anything.
01:34:04.000And then one of the guys shot him in the head twice and they both ran away.
01:34:07.000I mean, two muggers approach a group of four, the guy hands over the purse, no question, and they just shoot the one guy in the head twice for no reason and run away.
01:34:16.000Was this guy, because from what I read, I actually have the report right here, let me just pull it up.
01:34:40.000It says a man shot in the head in the uptown area of Minneapolis on Saturday night died late Sunday night at the Henpin County Medical Center.
01:34:50.000Michael Zubar, am I pronouncing that right?
01:34:53.000Twenty-five, was a PhD student at Clemson University in South Carolina.
01:34:58.000He was enrolled in the bioengineering program.
01:35:04.000Yeah, see, he's a bioengineer, that's the other thing.
01:35:06.000Yeah, yeah, he dreamed of working at NASA someday.
01:35:09.000He was from Buckhannon, West Virginia and was a 2005 graduate of Davis and Elkins College, a private Presbyterian school in Elkins, West Virginia.
01:35:17.000His officials there said he received a B.S.
01:35:38.000So we're just now learning about this five days later.
01:35:41.000Police said he was walking to a parked car with family members when robbers approached them and demanded his mother's purse.
01:35:47.000She gave it to the gunman without any resistance.
01:35:48.000One of the men then shot him in the head.
01:35:50.000It says, Lieutenant Lewis Edwards of the Minneapolis Police Department said within half an hour of the incident, we had already had six homicide investigators and six officers with homicide experience already working this thing.
01:36:02.000Police tried to reassure the community on Tuesday that the crime would not go unpunished.
01:36:11.000Again, I wanted to call in touch upon it because I read that and it was kind of shocking.
01:36:16.000I mean, He was still a member of the Scholars of the 9-11 Truth, and if anybody wanted to send a message to them, knocking off someone like David Ray Griffin would be a little bit too obvious.
01:36:26.000I'm not saying that it is connected, but I just think it's a little bit interesting.
01:36:54.000But at the same time, every day in this country, almost every hour, every few hours, somebody gets stabbed or mugged or shot with these crackheads.
01:37:03.000will just routinely take what you got and then just blow your head off.
01:37:06.000We've all seen it where they're robbing liquor stores on surveillance camera.
01:37:08.000The person gives them the money, and then they just are so hopped up and so nuts, they go ahead and pump a few rounds into them.
01:37:15.000So I'd say 50-50, and the point you bring up is exactly what I was thinking, a way to send a message and then probably try to scare everybody.
01:37:22.000But they can't kill us all, and we'll continue to watch this.
01:37:30.000I myself am a member of the 9-11 Scholars, and the 9-11 Scholars held a press conference of A week ago, Tuesday it must have been, at the Moussaoui trial in Alexandria, Virginia, and we had Jim Fetzer from Minnesota, and we had Phil Berg, who's running the RICO suit against Bush Cheney.
01:37:51.000He's the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania.
01:37:55.000He's a former candidate for Governor and Senate in Pennsylvania, so he's representing William Rodriguez, the Puerto Rican janitor who had been the The hero of the North Power saving people.
01:38:08.000So, that was a press conference that took place with, you know, guards toting machine guns all around.
01:38:48.000I think it's extremely suspicious and I would urge people, however, don't be terrified, be angry, and let that be another spur to more and more activism.
01:38:58.000Because the purpose of terrorism, of course, is terror.
01:39:00.000It's designed to put you into a passive... That's what they do in Iraq.
01:39:55.000I think there's obviously a strong suspicion that it's a political assassination By the other side.
01:40:01.000In other words, I think it's a feature of warfare in the ruling class with people more at our level who are expected to pay the price as these ruling class factions battle it out to see whether the truth on 9-11 is going to come out or not.
01:40:18.000Well, I'm telling you, the fact here that they're not even days after it, they're not telling us.
01:40:44.000Webster, I'll tell you, just everything gets weirder and weirder by the minute.
01:40:49.000Well, as I say, it's clear that one faction of the ruling elite wants to at least submit Bush and Cheney to oligarchical consensus control.
01:41:00.000That would mean moves towards liquidating the adventure in Iraq, cooling off the business with Iran.
01:41:20.000In other words, the breakup of the Bretton Woods monetary system.
01:41:25.000The breakup of Bretton Woods is a relatively mild event compared to the dollar panic, flight from the dollar, death agony of the imperial dollar that we're living through right now.
01:41:36.000With a whole series of things going on.
01:41:38.000Let me just go back and say about this poor man that got killed, at least it was quick.
01:41:43.000And I tell you, that concerns me, Webster, that your gut-level instinct is that killed him.
01:41:49.000And reading more about this, it is very suspicious.
01:42:40.000Yeah, the men in nice black masks don't have signs.
01:42:42.000It's because we have the media saying the truth on the sign.
01:42:45.000I mean, this country's just gone to hell in a handbasket.
01:42:47.000There were also people not even participating in the press conference, but there as part of the audience, who were told by officials of the court, it looked like, that they had been ID'd as protesters, and therefore they were under special scrutiny, because I guess their faces had been fed into a computer, and out it came that they were Subversive element.
01:43:11.000Yeah, it's sad to see our country dying.
01:43:15.000It's really sad to see a once-free country just go right down the tubes, but this is what happens when we get decadent and let tyranny get its roots down into the population.
01:43:25.000The only way we can do this is based on apathy, passivity, lack of activism, lack of righteous anger, lack of indignation.
01:43:36.000So it's time to take advantage of this opportunity and make the issue explode because there's an element of agitation in this without which nothing is going to happen, right?
01:43:45.000If it weren't for your interview with Charlie Sheen, if it weren't for this lecture series in New York City, there'd be nothing to work with and there would be no way to make this stuff explode.
01:43:54.000So the 9-11 Truth Movement is historically indispensable to any outcome from this crisis.
01:44:10.000But they've bought into the 9-11 myth.
01:44:12.000They believe all this stuff about Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden, the cave in Afghanistan, the laptop.
01:44:17.000And they believe Bush's claim that he's going to protect them.
01:44:21.000And the only way you can separate that group from Bush, Bush's political base, is to show that 9-11 was an inside job The FBI obviously let it happen, but other parts of the government made it happen.
01:44:34.000Networks, rogue networks inside the government are generally marching to the tune of Wall Street and the City of London.
01:44:45.000So when do you think we're going to see... I mean, things are already accelerating.
01:44:49.000When do you think you're going to see an even greater acceleration?
01:44:51.000Well, it can't be... it can't predict it according to a A timetable?
01:44:56.000Again, I think if you look at the Moussaoui trial in Alexandria, you've already got something that's reaching critical mass.
01:45:03.000It is clear that the FBI was crawling all over Moussaoui like lice.
01:45:09.000They knew when he got up, they knew every move he made, and they knew who his confederates were, they knew his networks, they had been following him since 1999, and they stubbornly refused to put him in jail.
01:45:21.000They stubbornly refused to lay a glove on him.
01:45:24.000We've had the testimony of this guy, Michael Rollins, of the FBI.
01:45:28.000He was the head of the International Counterterrorism Investigating Bureau of the FBI.
01:45:33.000Now, just to see who this guy is, many people know the name of David Frasca.
01:45:38.000David Frasca is one of the classic moles of September 11th.
01:45:42.000He was the head of the Radical Islam Bureau inside the FBI.
01:45:46.000It was David Frasca who received the Minneapolis Memorandum of Colleen Rowley and the Phoenix Memorandum of Kenneth Williams, I think his name was, and Frasca was the one who proceeded to suppress, to sit on, to sabotage any move to look inside Moussaoui's computer and so forth.
01:46:04.000Michael Rollins is the boss of David Frasca.
01:46:08.000So Rollins comes up and the defense shows him this important memo from a guy in Minneapolis, one of Colleen Rowley's colleagues, Harry Samet from Minneapolis.
01:46:18.000And this is a memo to FBI headquarters saying we've got to arrest this Moussaoui and look inside his computer.
01:46:26.000And Michael Rollins says, oh my gosh, I never saw that memorandum.
01:46:31.000Now we're at the level of pure insanity here.
01:46:35.000This is clearly a network of moles that are acting to protect Patsy's.
01:46:41.000And again, the reason they have to do this, it's not because Moussaoui is going to carry out 9-11.
01:46:47.000It's not because he's going to take over an airplane and fly it anywhere.
01:46:58.000But if you don't have people like Moussaoui running around, you can't make them into the Lee Harvey Oswalds, the scapegoats of what's going to happen.
01:47:10.000brought in 3,400 plus Iraqi Republican Guard at the end of the first Gulf War in 1991-92.
01:47:18.000And these were men who'd already been CIA trained in Virginia and other places, Alabama, back when Saddam was our big ally in the mid-1990s during the Iran-Iraq War.
01:48:38.000He was born in the... Yeah, the individuals that bombed the First World Trade Center were both mentally retarded and the FBI had to train them how to drive it and build the bomb for them and the rest of it.
01:48:46.000But let me just, before we go to break here, get your take on the mindset of these... I mean, not just the moles, but their handlers.
01:48:56.000How do these people in our government... I mean, they're just, I guess, grade-A psychopaths.
01:49:03.000But on the part of the moles, on the part of the invisible government network, well, these are people who, they are aggressive elitists, and they believe in, you can see from their track record what they believe in.
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01:54:26.000The only obvious parallels for this are the surveillance cameras at the Pentagon, in the gas station, in the hotel, and the highway out by the Pentagon that the FBI suppressed.
01:54:38.000The FBI just went on record in the LA Times and said, we saw it, and it showed, by name, Al Hussein and Hussein and others, they're getting out of the car with McVeigh, and they've declared national security, and there were twelve different cameras that picked this up.
01:54:53.000I mean, I can't believe they're not giving a description, because they can't!
01:54:59.000Well, I think it's time also to think if there's not some legal remedy on something this specific and this blatant and this timely to get some kind of amicus curiae or civil action suit demanding that the surveillance camera now be revealed so we can see what happened And also accountability for the elements in the police who didn't put that out.
01:55:19.000That should have been broadcast immediately.
01:55:21.000They should have broken into the various news channels.
01:55:26.000They act like our saviors when it's not them killing us.
01:55:29.000Well, you know, you can have a high-speed car chase, or you can have any number of events, and they put it up there right away, and in some cases they should.
01:55:37.000But in this case, certainly, because of the obvious political overtones, this intersection of the biotechnology assassinations and the The 9-11 issue, I think that makes it into a suspected political assassination, and everybody has to take that seriously.
01:55:54.000I would also call, in particular, on people to think about our left gatekeepers.
01:55:58.000There's a whole class of people who have been silent on this issue, right?
01:56:02.000We've now seen New York Magazine take the plunge into 9-11 truth, CNN show business tonight, The Village Voice, I'm looking at people like Seymour Hersh of the New Yorker, Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman of Democracy Now!, Greg Palast, Michael Moore, the great filmmaker.
01:56:18.000Come on, you know exactly who Noam Chomsky is.
01:56:21.000Well, yes I do, but I think it's time now, I'm putting it up there, if these people don't come forward, then they are exposed, then everybody should see who they are.
01:56:29.000Molly Ivins, Gore Vidal, The Nation Magazine, Counterpunch, James Ridgway, and on and on, David Corn, Uh, all of these people who have some kind of reputation as being watchdogs of the excesses of the federal government, a lot of them have been totally silent about 9-11.
01:56:47.000Now is the time for these people either to do something or to retreat into obscurity and we should be done with them.
01:56:55.000And of course, Momchomsky, he's obviously helped along by the fact that the Pentagon finances his institute.
01:57:01.000All these college people, when I had him on and attacked him, and I think I talked about God or something, the guy, I've read his books, I mean, you're a hundred times a scholar he is.
01:59:23.000You're definitely the Paul Revere of this movement, and I very much respect that.
01:59:29.000A comment regarding the Hutchinson-Lempoa.
01:59:33.000And the takeover of the scanning nuclear units?
01:59:36.000Yeah, I mean, openly, the Communist Chinese military is going to take over port security in one of the biggest ports in our hemisphere that our country owns.
02:00:13.000You know, I'll place it in my memory, a couple of our guests have pointed out Freeport, Bahamas and this port as where they would bring them in at.
02:00:23.000But don't worry, the nuclear scanners will be run, the atomic scanners will be run by the Chinese military.
02:00:31.000Okay, well let's get Jack Blood's take on all of this, since Dr. Deagle dropped.
02:00:38.000Hey Alex, thanks for taking my call, I appreciate it.
02:00:41.000I was actually going to call in and feed you the story that Dylan Avery had brought to bear.
02:00:46.000I actually have Jim Fetzer on my program, which as most people know follows yours today, and he's the spokesperson for 9-11 Scholars for Truth.
02:00:54.000And what he's told me is there's a couple of things.
02:00:57.000One is that this was done in the dark so and there were a ton of witnesses so it made no Absolutely no sense that these robbers shot Michael Zubar.
02:01:06.000You know, they might as well have shot all the witnesses, and the witnesses said that you couldn't even describe these guys.
02:01:11.000This was a purse-snatching, Alex, in an uptown, upscale neighborhood in Minnesota, and it falls right in the line with a lot of the other political assassinations that we've seen.
02:01:44.000And I thought that it was rather interesting that the headline is, 9-11 callers traumatized by uptown murder.
02:01:51.000Putting 9-11 and Traumatized in that title almost seems to be sending a message to people who might be reading this story, even if it's subliminal.
02:01:59.000And I thought that was rather fishy as well.
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02:06:06.000Alright, going back to Webster Griffin Tarverly, author of 9-1-1 Synthetic Terror, our guest.
02:06:20.000Mr. Tarpley, continuing, I want to go back to Dr. Deagle, caller and also host show here on the network.
02:06:26.000Dr. Deagle, finish up, Bill Deagle, finish up the point you were making when your phone dropped.
02:06:30.000Yeah, I'm sure it dropped because they wanted to intervene.
02:06:32.000Yeah, I carried quite a bit of discussions with my NSA buddies and CIA when I was working in Colorado, and also Colonel Craig Roberts, and I won't release my sources, but they have pre-placed in America Lots of munitions and other equipment and so on for an invasion of America and I was told by agents literally there were hardened military personnel and they were in a cold sweat when they told me this back in the mid 90s.
02:06:58.000And Colonel Roberts of course confirmed that the largest pre-placement facility in the world for the communist Chinese is in Freeport, Bahamas.
02:07:06.000Yeah, isn't it interesting that it's exactly where they're going to be managing these scanners without our Customs people watching for nuclear devices.
02:07:14.000Yeah, our government says, oh, we're going to let the Chinese military, and that is admittedly, who owns Hutchinson Wampoa, I mean, their officers captain the ships.
02:07:22.000And they're now in the same company as the Panama Canal, officially communist Chinese government, and now they're going to run this port too.
02:07:28.000I mean, this is American property, American territory.
02:07:31.000I mean, we've entered the outer limits here.
02:07:34.000I want to get a comment from Webster Tarpley.
02:07:50.000Every country should have national sovereignty and should run its own ports.
02:07:53.000And we don't need the degenerate Emir of Dubai with his wage-gouging, union-busting policies to come in here, because that's one of the reasons the Wall Street people like these guys.
02:08:02.000Because you can imagine what their labor policies are.
02:08:04.000There's no opposition in the United Arab Emirates, that's for sure.
02:08:30.000A couple of things I noticed that, you know, that the way they try to smear you on the national news, they always try to throw in these words, conspiracy and cult and everything.
02:08:43.000The way it's up is down and left is right and everything.
02:08:46.000But, you know, your guest there, Mr. Webster, he's mentioned a couple of times about Watergate and everything.
02:08:52.000Now, we have these two famous journalists called Woodward and Bernstein.
02:08:57.000Now, when they first started off, they were looking into a conspiracy, but I noticed that the mainstream media never calls them conspiracy theorists.
02:09:06.000And you know, did Nixon and Dean and Liddy and Haldeman, did they or did they not conspire to break into the Watergate?
02:09:14.000Did they or did they not conspire to cover it up and to smear and to blame others and all those things?
02:09:20.000And now look at these federal prosecutors, and the guest was also mentioned about this FBI agent testifying here in this Zacharias Massali.
02:09:28.000You know, how many times have you heard this term, unindicted co-conspirators?
02:09:32.000So, are federal prosecutors conspiracy theorists?
02:09:36.000Because they do have a theory about a conspiracy and all they have to do is prove it?
02:09:43.000And, you know, we have cases which are admitted and declassified in public that Nixon planned to bomb the Republican National Convention to blame it on his enemies.
02:09:52.000I mean, they just do this over and over and over and over and over again.
02:10:06.000Another little part of that, there was a gentleman that worked here, and he's been over in the Middle East quite a bit.
02:10:12.000His name was Harry Evers, and he was the one that went to Ken Williams with this information about these people trying to learn how to fly these airplanes.
02:10:21.000But Mr. Evers, he was about 50 years old And he died of a massive heart attack about a year ago, so it was just a little suspicious that he's so close to the center of this whole... So close to the trial?
02:10:36.000And then, and then all of a sudden, then it, uh... And then he, he... Because I met him about a week or so before he died, and he appeared that he was in good health.
02:10:46.000He wasn't all, you know, on oxygen, pushing around a walker or anything like that.
02:11:10.000Number one, I'm also a member of Scholars for 9-11 Truth and New York 9-11 Truth.
02:11:15.000They have a list of things that they were doing this week, and I forwarded those things to some people who are working to get the Twin Towers rebuilt.
02:11:27.000And I got a rebuke from somebody telling me not to do it again.
02:11:30.000The problem for me is that the longer these towers stay away, the more obvious it is.
02:11:37.000And someone called about why they chose September 11th.
02:12:17.000I tell you, for somebody whose birthday is September 11th, which is mine, what you've done this past week is the best birthday present I've had perhaps in my whole life and certainly since 2001, and I can't find the words to thank you.
02:12:36.000I did notice on your website you had reprinted the Post-Smear article on Mr. Sheehan, and it turns out I thought that they were only mildly pejorative in their review, and in fact what they did was, even though they did say some negative things about Mr. Sheehan, they revealed all his salient points.
02:13:02.000So they kind of like cancelled each other.
02:13:04.000That's what I've noticed is, either it's on purpose, it's people that are really on our side, trying to be safe.
02:13:10.000They'll go look at all these top military people and all these top CIA people and these German defense ministers saying the government's behind the terror.
02:13:20.000And then links to WTC7.net and all these other, you know, great sites, I mean, and links to our site.
02:13:27.000Oh, yeah, I mean, Certainly, Webster, don't you think some of these journalists are trying to protect themselves, but then really making themselves look stupid on purpose?
02:13:35.000I would suggest the way you can tell a real slander is a real slander will not deal with the main substantive points of the argument.
02:13:42.000They'll say, oh, you cite Joe Blow in a footnote, and Joe Blow is a proven psychotic.
02:13:47.000Yeah, all the neocons are just attacking Charlie Sheen personally, and not even addressing what he said.
02:13:54.000Well, but the fact is that the material is getting out, and it's getting out massively.
02:13:59.000I would just say one thing about Charlie Sheen.
02:14:00.000I think one of the best things that he's done is to call for that international review panel.
02:14:06.000It's the independent international Truth Commission, and interestingly enough, that took place in 1967 in Copenhagen, Denmark, as well as in Sweden.
02:14:16.000And this was, of course, the Russell Tribunal on Vietnam, with Sartre and the Blazaro Cardenas of Mexico, and a whole panel of international experts.
02:14:26.000This is what broke the back of the Johnson administration's aggressive war in Vietnam, as far as world public opinion was concerned.
02:14:34.000And I would think that if Charlie Sheen keeps Talking about that Independent International Truth Commission, that is one of the ways we can get it, because I think that's ultimately the next step in all of this.
02:14:45.000We've got to find a way to put this entire story in front of world public opinion, and have it validated by a group of eminent personalities, and judged, indeed, evaluated, and send that around the world so that this crazy 9-11 myth comes crashing down.
02:15:01.000Well, it certainly is the big conspiracy theory, their story.
02:15:17.000I have nothing but respect for you, and I have one comment.
02:15:21.000It appears to me that all the evil stuff that they're doing, It advances their agenda, and it also acts as a distraction from 9-11, and my thought is that perhaps they know that 9-11 is the only thing that's sure to bring them down.
02:15:36.000Well, again, the question is who and who are them?
02:15:39.000I think there's one group, as I said before, that thinks that you can have a limited hangout, a controlled revelation of certain parts of the scandal that will essentially break the link between Bush, Cheney, and their Terrified base of 35 to 40 percent of the U.S.
02:15:55.000I think it's the task of the rest of us to try to push it forward so that it leads to the exposure of as much as possible of the invisible government, rogue network, deep state, secret government, whatever you want to call it.
02:16:07.000It's actually behind... Yeah, we'll get more into that in our final segment with Webster after the break.
02:16:12.000Let me bring up something now in the minute we've got left before we go to Greg Webster.
02:16:16.000I don't like getting into shop talk and stuff that goes on, but we never have people go on to the shopping cart and put fake orders in.
02:16:23.000Now these are real credit cards with sequential numbers leading down, and almost every day they'll come in and order hundreds of your books, but it's not real addresses, and then we have to go refund it back to these cards, and we call the credit card companies, and it's basically government credit cards, And, I mean, this is bizarre.
02:17:07.000My book represents invisible government my hop.
02:17:10.000And I think of the ones that were written originally in English, I have to say, I think it does this more thoroughly, more consistently than anybody else.
02:17:18.000What do they think they're going to do trying to, like, we're dumb and going to mail these to the wrong, you know, and just mail these out into the stratosphere?
02:17:26.000The government's openly trying to pay me to just ship your books into a black hole.
02:17:31.000Well, I'm flattered by so much attention and I think it has to do with the fact that I represent The strongest version of MyHop that you can get on the internet.
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02:22:22.000I certainly hope that you will come and go there and get it and so we can ship it out to you and support what he's doing and also support what we're doing.
02:22:29.000I get my film Road to Tyranny, Martial Law, Masters of Terror.
02:22:34.000Of course, Road to Tyranny was the first major film on 9-11.
02:22:37.000And many say it is still the best, but only 45 minutes of the almost three hours is on.
02:23:51.000Then we have the unanswered questions position, the incompetence, negligence, also not wearing well as time goes on.
02:23:59.000Then we have LIHOP, let it happen on purpose.
02:24:02.000This assumes that bin Laden, al-Qaeda, all of this is real, independent, And the guilt of the people involved is to pull down the U.S.
02:24:10.000defenses, paralyze the air defense, and the problem with that is it just doesn't hold up.
02:24:15.000I would say crossing the Rubicon by Mike Ruppert is an example of the lie hop theory.
02:24:19.000Again, it's not wearing well as time goes on.
02:24:22.000I'm not going to say anything about that individual.
02:24:26.000Okay, so then we have lie hop that made it happen on purpose.
02:24:31.000I would argue, invisible government, my hop, it says that Atta, Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, these are controlled patsies, they're versions of Oswald.
02:24:40.000But you see, I believe the only thing that's possible is the last, didn't make it happen, did it?
02:24:46.000Well, made it happen through, well, the patsies are one thing, they don't make it happen, it's actually the trained professionals using government resources under the cover of war drills and terror drills, that's how they make it happen, under the cover of Amalgam Virgo,
02:25:00.000The National Reconnaissance Office crashing planes into building drill... And the old Stone Age version of that is Marinus van der Lubbe, the Dutch individual, you know, mentally retarded, flopping around naked, drugged in the back of the Reichstag in the alley, and then meanwhile it's admitted that Goering has 50 stormtroopers running around with giant canisters of petrol, burning the place down.
02:25:22.000Right, and I think that's, he's an example of a patsy.
02:25:25.000Some of the books on 9-11 tend to, for example, David Ray Griffin treats individual cases within a MIHOP mentality, with a MIHOP analysis.
02:25:35.000But as far as I know, he does not rise to the level of saying 9-11 was a massive provocation by the invisible government of the United States.
02:25:44.000I went on CNN last night and said they did it.
02:25:46.000Do you think the White House heard about that?
02:26:01.000Do you think it makes me in greater danger?
02:26:03.000There's something called factitious advantage, which is that the more that you're identified with this issue, the more the political price is for doing anything against you.
02:26:13.000By the way, by the way, by the way, our media says that Hugo Chavez claims they've tried to kill him.
02:26:19.000They have kidnapped him, had him on a helicopter saying we're going to throw you out of it, and then his troops took back over, and so their coup backfired minutes before they were going to kill him.
02:26:29.000Our government has said they're going to kill him.
02:26:31.000Pat Robertson's on air saying kill him, and our media calls it a conspiracy theory that there's an attempt to kill Hugo Chavez.
02:26:38.000Well, if you're having a tank attack, you don't get to the middle of the field and stop the tanks.
02:26:43.000You've got to keep the tanks going, and that's what I urge you and everybody else to do.
02:26:47.000Well, sir, I went, I mean, I'm, you know, four and a half, five years ago, before 9-11, I'd already gone to the point of no return.
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02:27:16.000I just have a chill going up my spine right now.
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02:32:06.000In fact, they had a big online poll with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution three years ago when Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney went public and said 9-11 is a clear cover-up.
02:32:17.000And she listed NORAD stand down and public officials being warned.
02:32:20.000And of course we've interviewed her on the radio show and on TV.
02:32:24.000And it was a 24-hour poll and 90-plus percent were agreeing with her until Neil Bortz, who's based in Atlanta, and a bunch of other people said, go tell her she's crazy!
02:32:37.000And when they closed the poll, it had gone down to 45 percent.
02:32:40.000It went back up to 55 and they shut it down because even with national attacks going, the people were going to really show that we had the majority view.
02:32:52.000CNN last year had a poll on Anderson Cooper, the exact same type of poll, and out of tens of thousands of respondents, we have links to that on the website.
02:32:59.000Understand that it closed at 90% believing the government was covering up and may have been involved.
02:33:05.000Zogby, 49% believe the government could be involved, 66% wanted a new investigation.
02:34:28.000But it's interesting, because you talk about this recent poll, which is really inspiring.
02:34:33.000Can you specifically speak to CNN, Showbiz Tonight and their poll?
02:34:40.000Well, gosh, first of all, I have to tip my hat to CNN, to Showbiz Tonight, to A.J.
02:34:45.000Hammer for having the courage, for having the guts, for having the wherewithal To give someone like myself, someone like you, the actual time and the focus to examine these issues.
02:34:59.000Because as you said, I think this is the most attention in mainstream coverage that this topic has ever received.
02:35:19.000That says a lot about him, sticking his neck out there, you know?
02:35:24.000But again, like we said in the first interview, it feels like the worm is turning, that the consciousness is shifting.
02:35:33.000But it's interesting because you talk about the attack pieces, you know, and the majority of them, in fact 90% of them, We're attacking me personally.
02:36:20.000As for being a party animal, George Bush is known to be a bigger partier than you are in many cases in his life, so I guess it's okay that George Bush has got a few problems in his life, but you've got to be basically Jesus Christ.
02:36:37.000For anyone to have any kind of an opinion about something that warrants opinion, I guess you have to be as squeaky clean as all of those offering their critique.
02:36:54.000I'm listening to talk shows, and I'm listening to the callers call in, and they're predominantly agreeing with you, and their neocon hosts are flipping out.
02:37:01.000And then, I mean, what does this poll mean to you specifically?
02:37:04.000You know, in the low 80s, 80 plus percent, more than 8 out of 10 people agree with Charlie Xing.
02:37:10.000Can you speak directly to that, those type of numbers?
02:37:25.000I was looking at those numbers that you referenced earlier, and so I felt like if I was going to have the guts to come out about this, that there would be some support.
02:37:37.000There would be a strong measure of support.
02:37:42.000I think it speaks volumes to the reality that people want the truth.
02:37:50.000They want the truth, and what's been offered to us resembles nothing of the sort.
02:37:58.000Well, on top of it, Charlie, the old line media still thinks they have a monopoly.
02:38:03.000They don't understand that, overall, the alternative media is now bigger, and that they're not just going to be able to mug you, and then everybody just sit back and, you know, watch them beat you up.
02:38:20.000There were a lot of blogs and a lot of chat boards and a lot of internet data.
02:38:27.000There were a lot of people I wanted to respond to personally for their support and their courage to join.
02:38:37.000Those of us that are, you know, part of the 9-11 truth movement.
02:38:40.000Well, I want people to understand something, too.
02:38:42.000I mean, when I call you, or you call me, or I'm calling you back, and you answer the phone, and I hear, you know, the newest 9-11 documentary on in the background, or I hear you online researching something, listening to firefighter tapes where they're saying there's bombs in the buildings.
02:38:56.000You've been researching this for how many years?
02:38:59.000I mean, again, I'm not just saying you are hyper, super informed on this.
02:40:14.000Which was a mistake, and it was a valuable lesson not to talk about gut instinct, because you know uh... those uh... these times have uh... obviously uh...
02:40:56.000Who we now find out the production company she works for is owned by one of Bush's fraternity brothers from Skull and Bones.
02:41:03.000She went on TV, on CNN, and told us that we needed to do more research and she claimed that the planes knock the fire retardant off the steel.
02:41:11.000Even if they did, steel doesn't melt at that temperature and Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane.
02:41:58.000Well, I could say the same thing about the reaction to my comments this week.
02:42:04.000Well, that obviously shows that a lot of people believe me, but I'm not saying that.
02:42:08.000that i'm just here to remind people that that the only credibility i need is what i have and that is as an upstanding tax-paying american citizen who loves his country and who refuses to stand by as as as this level of insanity uh is is is blanketed over um obvious truths well you know
02:42:37.000An area we haven't really explored is motive for the trillions in oil.
02:42:41.000Motives for the hundreds of billions of no-bid weapons contracts.
02:42:45.000And Bush told his biographer, to be able to have a war, then no one could really question him domestically.
02:42:52.000And to have that war, Dick Cheney wrote in the PNAC documents, Project for New American Century, that they needed a big Pearl Harbor event to mobilize us.
02:43:15.000Well, it just seems too convenient, the path that we've been led down since the event.
02:43:25.000You know, again, I cannot speak about the why, the how, the who, because I do not have any evidence that points in any of those directions.
02:43:35.000I mean, yes, I'm aware of the times that we're living in.
02:43:41.000I'm aware of civil liberties and You know, a lot of my God-given rights, constitutionally-given rights are being eradicated, sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly.
02:43:54.000But again, I think if we keep the focus on the specific evidence, the specific areas that generate The most questions, I think that's where our argument stands.
02:44:07.000So we're getting back to what you said on Monday, and I'd like you to say it again in your own words, or add to it.
02:44:13.000Their official story is the biggest conspiracy theory of them all, and we know what they're telling us about 9-11, from pillar to post, is a fraud, so therefore, I mean, if Building 7's wrong, it's all wrong.
02:45:39.000Obviously, you've seen the films, you've seen the news footage.
02:45:41.000There are clear blast points going off down the sides.
02:45:44.000You see the central column get blown, you see the penthouse cave in, the perfect classical demolition, then it falls in on its own footprint.
02:45:51.000Can you specifically talk about the video you've seen and those blast points?
02:45:56.000Anyone that cannot view this as a controlled demolition, I would have to say that their chair was not facing the television.
02:46:09.000Anyone that can look at this and say, yes, that is a random event caused by fire, really needs psychiatric evaluation.
02:46:21.000Well, literally, folks, I have hours of different firefighters and police.
02:46:26.000I mean, we can't put it all on the films, because that's all the films would be.
02:46:29.000We have hours of them saying, did you see the bombs?
02:46:49.000But when they pigeonhole me into the tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy knucklehead brigade, they don't mention those quotes by Peter Jennings and Dan Rather.
02:47:42.000We're not supposed to get into Building 7 because not only did it look like a controlled demolition on the day, then the firefighting organizations and firefighter engineering say it's a cover-up.
02:48:24.000Charlie Sheen, final segment with you.
02:48:25.000We'll cover some other key issues on the other side.
02:48:28.000Again, I can only commend you for being just an amazing trailblazer.
02:48:33.000You have really made history on the side of the good guys in a big way, and I think what you've done here is more important than everything else you've done in your life, my friend.
02:48:41.000We'll be right back with Charlie Sheen, who's a hero.
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02:51:45.000Charlie and I were just talking during the break and he was saying, I want to challenge these neocons to not attack me personally, but challenge me on the facts.
02:52:02.000You know, it's not about Charlie Sheen.
02:52:03.000And Charles, just for all the newspapers and CNN and everybody else out there listening, would you like to state that in your own words?
02:52:10.000Yeah, I just want to restate that I am a citizen that loves my country.
02:52:15.000And as a citizen, with my passion, For this great country, I demand that I be challenged on the facts, not on immature behavior from 20 years ago.
02:52:34.000That if they continue to attack me personally, it only gives credence to our side of the argument.
02:52:41.000I mean, you're here saying, hey, just look at these facts, like many other prominent people are doing, and that's the issue.
02:52:48.000You also have another idea about new media polls you're challenging the media to carry out.
02:52:54.000Well, I think there should be a poll on Building 7.
02:52:57.000First of all, ask people if they even know what Building 7 is, or was, rather, and then ask them, you know, having seen the video evidence, what their opinion is.
02:53:19.000Well, that's what I'm getting in the real poll of 4,000 radio interviews in the last four and a half years.
02:53:25.000Now, I think it'll be 90% of Americans who know about 7.
02:53:28.000The government and media have been so quiet about it because you have a 47-story building, and I've been there, folks.
02:53:33.000It's way down the block imploding and falling down when buildings right up next to Tower 1 and 2 that weren't owned by certain parties had buildings fall on them and burn for a day and nothing fell.
02:53:49.000If, you know, if we can take simple physics and every aspect of logic that we've come to know and just put it on its ear, then we can get behind how they've explained that away.
02:54:03.000What does FEMA say about Building 7, Alex?
02:54:06.000They've had four different stories, as you know, and they've had to change each one.
02:54:10.000First, it was an oil tank, and then they proved that didn't make it fall.
02:54:28.000And then they claim that the A North Tower fell, hit it, and knocked out its main column when their own official debris field shows only dust hit it.
02:54:38.000And fires didn't start for hours, and so they're just all over the map claiming... and then they claim structural failure, but it had been underwritten, and so that's just bizarre.
02:54:48.000Listen, metal desk in the Madrid fire that burned for over a day, little cheap metal nothing desk in the middle of white hot flame didn't melt.
02:54:58.000Okay, giant steel, hardened steel does not do that.
02:56:03.000I hadn't thought of it until this very moment, but it's a hell of an idea.
02:56:07.000That's just one of my attempts at humor.
02:56:08.000Listen, it was great having you on, sir, and I appreciate your amazing courage, and we'll be talking to you very, very soon, Charlie Sheen.