On today's show, Alex Jones is joined by psychologist, Bill Vieth, who is an expert on the New World Order and the Bretton Woods agreement, why the dollar is plunging and why we see gold and crude oil prices have skyrocketed in prices. Meanwhile, Bush is visiting Boeing and Microsoft, and a heckler brings up the possibility that China stole the organs of murdered Falun Gong members.
00:00:43.000Coming up, psychologist, good friend of mine, Bill Vieth, who's an expert on the New World Order, another great Austinite, will be joining us in studio to talk about the world banking system and leaving the Bretton Woods Agreement, why the dollar is plunging, why we see gold exploding and crude oil prices having a skyrocket rise in prices.
00:01:05.000It's all coming up in the next hour, and we'll have open phones as well.
00:01:08.000Then we've got, well, the author of Adventures in Legal Land, Scott Stevens, joining us coming up in the third hour, just to get into the corruption of the court systems here in the United States, and how there really is no rule of law, and his view that no state is legitimate.
00:01:27.000In the meantime, we'll be taking your calls and covering the news.
00:01:30.000Gold hit 640 Dollars an ounce yesterday before dropping back down to $638.
00:01:38.000On Monday it hit, what, $608, then it hit $614.
00:02:03.000Last time I checked, about 10 minutes ago.
00:02:06.000Meanwhile, Bush on the heels of the Chinese President visiting Boeing and Microsoft.
00:02:11.000And by the way, there were some cryptic statements made, that's the Associated Press' words, cryptic statements made about free speech on the internet by Bill Gates, then the murderer-in-chief, the criminal-in-chief, the Chinese president, hopped on his airplane and flew out to D.C.
00:02:28.000There was a heckler bringing up the fact that China steals the organs of murdered Falun Gong members, and there were Taiwanese protesters as well, but the protester that heckled Them during their press conference was drugged out.
00:02:43.000So we'll get into that for you as well.
00:02:48.000At the same time, Chinese man admits to plot to import 200 missiles.
00:02:52.000Each missile could shoot down a large passenger airliner.
00:02:55.000And of course it leads back to the Communist Chinese military.
00:03:01.000This is right out of Reuters, Washington Times, Associated Press, you name it.
00:03:05.000And by the way, the Communist Chinese were caught shipping in shoulder-fired missiles, and what, 3,000 plus AK-47s, and a bunch of heroin back in 1997.
00:03:16.000That's in my film, America Destroyed by Design.
00:03:19.000And so they were rewarded the next year with a Long Beach Naval Base, Panama Canal, many other places, and now they're running security.
00:03:27.000In the Bahamas, and the nuclear scanning equipment.
00:03:31.000But when a cop pulls you over in the middle of this country, say in Indiana, and wants to search your car, and without a warrant he'll say, it's a post 9-11 atmosphere.
00:03:44.000There's been a ridiculous raid, they're calling it the biggest ever, 1,000 illegal aliens and their bosses arrested from Texas to California.
00:03:56.000There are conservatively 25 million illegal aliens, 20 million that are Mexican, 5 million others Russians, Chinese, Indians, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Salvadorans.
00:04:10.000And, uh, the real numbers that I think are the most accurate show over 30 million now.
00:04:14.000So when you think a thousand sounds big, uh, last year, this same time, they raided, remember, Walmart distribution centers and then a couple lumberyards and arrested, what was it, over 500?
00:04:36.000We can all go back to sleep now, so I'm going to get into this and some of the new Larry Conquista open border news and the latest Iran news.
00:04:44.000It's all coming up in a big news blitz after this quick break.
00:04:48.000As we enter the second segment, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
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00:08:09.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:15.000I figured I'd start the second segment here in this first hour before I get into the Communist Chinese murdering despot as bad as Hitler visiting Boeing, Microsoft, and now President Bush, and they drug a... I wouldn't call it a heckler.
00:08:30.000They drug out a daring Falun Gong demonstrator who just simply brought up that they run death camps and murder people for their organs.
00:08:37.000I mean, it doesn't get any more Nazi-like and macabre, and it's admitted they do this.
00:08:42.000And our media acts like it's debatable.
00:08:44.000Well, the Falun Gong claims this, and China says that they're a deadly, dangerous cult.
00:09:24.000But I figured we'd start with something a little bit fun first.
00:09:28.000This is a little piece that got put together about some some folks they threw out on the internet we have a link where you can download it at prisonplanet.com and infowars.com it's a take off on the beatles song you know where i am the egg man i am the walrus cuckoo and uh...
00:09:46.000it's it's i'd say dead on the mark except for a little slight anti-christian comment because people think bush is supposedly a christian and they really believe the propaganda that he's being led by god Yeah, he's being led by God, but he's being led by the God of this world that tempted Christ on the mountain.
00:10:06.000Or attempted to tempt Christ on the mountain.
00:10:20.000But what do you say to critics who believe that you're ignoring the advice of retired generals, military commanders, who say that there needs to be a change?
00:10:26.000I am the only one and Remy's here and it's free and we're all together.
00:10:49.000See the world burn when Dick shoots his gun.
00:13:57.000But what do you say to critics who believe that you're ignoring the advice of retired generals, military commanders, who say that there needs to be a change?
00:14:11.000He's not only transforming the military, he's fighting a war on terror.
00:14:15.000He's helping us fight a war on terror.
00:14:17.000I have strong confidence in Don Rumsfeld.
00:14:19.000I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation, but I'm the decider, and I decide what is best, and what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense.
00:14:34.000And I've heard the neocons spin on talk radio.
00:14:36.000It's very bad to have the military involved in politics.
00:14:39.000That's police state, and Bush is trying to stop that.
00:14:43.000We have a law against that, posse comitatus.
00:14:46.000No, the law isn't that once generals are out of the military that they're not allowed to have their own political view, especially on something that they're experts on.
00:14:56.000No, Bush is doing the opposite, putting troops on the streets, brainwashing children at public schools across the country, having urban warfare drills, saying he wants to get rid of posse commentatus, and that martial law might be needed if bird flu breaks out, or one more terror attack and they'll set aside the Constitution in favor of a military form of government.
00:15:48.000And that war on terror means brainwashing you.
00:15:51.000Now, TooStupidToBePresident.com had this out about a year ago.
00:15:55.000And I never played it, and I meant to.
00:15:57.000Then Paul reposted it on PrisonPlanet.com, so it reminded me to.
00:16:01.000And it starts out with Rumsfeld, it's a cartoon, up there literally with real quotes he gave in the past, because at the end they show those quotes.
00:16:13.000That's what twostupidwouldbepresident.com does.
00:16:15.000There's an incredibly talented animator there.
00:16:22.000And at the end of it, they again show the quotes, but it starts out with Rumsfeld as a cartoon character, like the beginning of every Seinfeld episode, doing some stand-up comedy.
00:16:31.000Then it cuts to Rumsfeld in the Oval Office with the cartoon Bush.
00:18:43.000So many of the things you heard there were actual quotes, and the snuff film stuff goes on too.
00:18:46.000I mean, the fellow's not joking around dealing with that.
00:18:49.000These are SICOs, as many different former government high-level experts and the CIA generals have said here as the former founding commander of Delta Force.
00:19:03.000Who is the advisor on the big CBS show, The Unit, has gone public in LA Weekly and on national television saying that torture is directly ordered by Cheney and that he actually enjoys it.
00:19:16.000And then it was admitted that hundreds of videos and thousands of photos were quote delivered to the White House of the torture and killing to be reviewed.
00:19:25.000It was also showed to select members of Congress.
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00:24:34.000But I never get over the fact that our media has gone from criticizing China over half of the reports they put out in decades past that I witnessed on television were negative.
00:24:48.000Now maybe 5% of the reporting is negative and China is worse than ever.
00:24:54.000In their abuse, all the human rights groups that analyze the cases admit.
00:25:00.000But suddenly our media many times is positive concerning some of the Tiananmen Square type activities that are going on a monthly basis there that we know about.
00:25:09.000Not to mention the mobile execution vans and the organ harvesting and the land grabbing, all of it.
00:25:18.000And then we have an Attorney General that says they can torture people to death and that it's not torture because they say it isn't.
00:25:24.000They've changed the name, so that supposedly changed the action.
00:25:28.000And we have his deputy coming out and saying they can torture children in front of their parents and then adding deviant sickness on top of it as if torturing children isn't bad enough and isn't deviant and sick enough.
00:25:42.000I mean, we're all having our psyches driven through the pit of hell for some future horror that's going to dwarf all of those.
00:25:52.000And it really is a deal with the devil the American people are being given.
00:25:56.000And of course, even when you make a deal with the devil, he always brings you down in the end.
00:26:00.000Look at Faust and his Faustian bargain.
00:26:03.000I mean, look at our dollar, look at our oil prices, look at our educational levels, look at the family statistics, marriage, broken marriages, drug use, every indicator, IQs, Cancer, diabetes, sperm counts.
00:26:22.000We've gone from the most blessed, the most opulently successful.
00:26:26.000I mean, I heard some spin today out of investors' business.
00:26:31.000I heard a neo come on the radio going, look, we've gone from 800 people in America worth more than $5 million to 900 and something in the last year.
00:26:50.000Well, that's no benchmark of a successful society.
00:26:52.000I mean, Mexico produces more billionaires and millionaires than any other country, even countries that are much larger, even more than China, just because the communist Chinese leaders are good at hiding it.
00:27:04.000But the dollar has been devalued by 44% And so, of course, with the printing presses of the Federal Reserve on overdrive, admittedly, you're going to see increases in certain sectors of wealth.
00:27:20.000But if you look at overall indices, we are at a higher level of debt per capita.
00:28:13.000Overall, every indicator of a society, educational level, test scores, factories, jobs, it's all going in the wrong direction, but it doesn't matter.
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00:33:36.000I'm sure it's some deal with our government to pull something later.
00:33:38.000Then they'll just take all our freedoms and grab all our pension funds and rob everyone like they're already doing, but just accelerate it.
00:34:08.000I just wanted to give you a little update out here in Massachusetts.
00:34:12.000Today I found out, as I went in for my office meeting, because I am a realtor, that we were talking about one of Romney's plans to fingerprint realtors.
00:34:25.000Which means, because I don't want to be registered with the government as having my fingerprints, I'm going to need to find a new job now.
00:34:32.000Again, I'm sure you've heard me many times talk about a two-hour meeting I saw almost four years ago with the former Homeland Security head, Governor Ridge, on C-SPAN, and they said, our national ID card to the driver's license, we'll have to have it to get into any job, we'll scan in to go to work, we'll have a national sales tax known as the fair tax, they're going to keep the income tax on top of it, isn't this what the neocons aren't?
00:34:52.000Telling you, and everyone's going to have to thumb scan and biometrically every day to get into work.
00:35:05.000It absolutely is and it looks like they're really starting to implement it because as I recall when I took my real estate license a few years ago, the test for it, they did take certain people's fingerprints.
00:35:16.000They thumb scanned them to get your results.
00:35:20.000Yeah, nobody asked you, and there's no law at that point.
00:35:23.000Here, just come over here and do this.
00:35:25.000And now it's going in the schools, it's going in the colleges, it's going in the businesses, the HEB grocery stores, the Safeways, for the employees, and at some test facilities.
00:35:35.000When you do the self-checkout, it's an added security feature for you.
00:35:39.000And of course, it's the very thing that most states already implemented.
00:35:42.000Now by federal law, all are implementing biometrics.
00:35:45.000Yeah, they have that here too in a lot of the supermarkets and even at the Home Depot, Lowe's Home Improvement stores.
00:35:51.000And what I don't get is, they can tell, the computers can scan to see if whether or not you've checked something out before you actually check it out.
00:35:59.000So that was a little frightening to me.
00:36:00.000I mean... Yeah, it knows your algorithm, your history.
00:36:05.000Listen, If just a few hundred people sue over this and say no, they won't be able to implement.
00:36:10.000We've already held back implementation of RFID over a year and a half.
00:37:22.000And there's certain regions of the country that have been known throughout our entire 230-something year history where government corruption was never put up with.
00:37:29.000And there's other areas like Boston, New York, Chicago, LA, where for some reason, I'm not saying the whole population, but generally the population is known for laying down.
00:37:40.000In areas of the South and the West, where just a few times citizens revolted, and they called them, you know, sagebrush rebellions, Wildfire rebellions, people backed off and learned who the boss was.
00:37:54.000Look, if you act like slaves, you're going to be a slave.
00:37:57.000If you're not a man... Look, I'm not a tough guy, folks, but I've found in life it's just better to just go ahead and bring it on.
00:38:05.000If somebody's going to try to push you around, if somebody's going to try to enslave you, if somebody's going to try to boss you around, I don't care how fancy their PR is, it's slavery, it's a fraud.
00:38:58.000Oh yeah, he even said, and you can even play the tape back, and he said, I hear the voices.
00:39:05.000And whatever he meant by that, but in any event,
00:39:09.000You know, a lot of stuff is going on, Alex, and you know, this is a good example of how President Bush lies to the American people, and one of the other things I wanted to point out is something related to global warming, and there's these NASA scientists who help write a report to Congress called, Our Changing Planet, then they send a draft to the White House, and what the Bush administration does, his Chief of Staff, Phil Cooney, they edit the report and actually delete a bunch of stuff out of it,
00:39:39.000And then Bush goes into the Rose Garden and he, of course, after they bog up this report to Congress, which they're not supposed to do, and of course he goes on national TV in the Rose Garden and basically false statements to the American people.
00:39:57.000And he, you know, pretty much out and out lying to the American people.
00:40:12.000Some areas are getting colder, some are getting hotter.
00:40:14.000The sun went through its heaviest 11 and a half year cycle, if you want to get precise about it, over the last decade.
00:40:22.000They thought it would go into a light cycle for the next 11 years instead.
00:40:27.000Preliminary data from NASA and other observatories, private and public, around the world show that it's heating up to be 50% brighter, with a 50% or higher, they're saying, radiated increase of the radiation, the heat radiation, the gamma rays, all the different types of radiation that actually fuel the earth and heat the earth and run the earth.
00:40:53.000One major gas volcano explosion, not a lava flow volcano, but a major gas explosion volcano like Mount St.
00:41:01.000Helens, which they have on average every two years, puts out more fossil fuel greenhouse gas emissions than all human activity in the last thousand years.
00:41:12.000That's all the campfires, all the coal burning stoves, all the industries, all the cars for a thousand years.
00:41:59.000Alex, I believe ICE conducted that sweep through Dallas last night, not because they wanted to enforce the law, but they didn't want real Americans to follow the example of the criminal illegals from Mexico and riot in the streets, or march to the Capitol.
00:42:15.000You know, They want to curb this insurrection before real Americans begin to realize that we can do it too.
00:42:22.000And not only that, but this Reconquista thing that they're pushing, that's a property rights issue every bit as much as that Kelo versus Connecticut where they distorted the eminent domain from private to public into private to private, whereby they're taking their land, our government, And given to the favored groups because they can.
00:42:48.000And we're not going into the streets protesting that when we should have.
00:42:52.000The morning after that Kelo versus Connecticut decision, when they declared that we don't have the right to life, liberty, or property, that we should have been in the streets in numbers a thousand times greater than the Mexicans have mustered.
00:43:06.000And because they're beginning to fear that we'll do that, they cracked down on The Mexican invaders last night... I agree.
00:45:48.000I'm not against these hard-working Mexican immigrants.
00:45:53.000I've become against them once the Lovery Conquista, La Raza, Mexico, Oslon movements get them and they start running around with signs with white people's heads cut off openly saying we're going to kill you.
00:46:58.000I mean, every month or so they'll have some bust where 15, 20, 30 people at some golf course or some hotel get grabbed or they'll go charge people every few months, say in Baltimore, for the whole restaurant staff being illegal aliens from Mexico.
00:47:16.000And by the way, I was talking to a chef when I was out in California
00:47:19.000and uh... he was uh... he was talking about how well how it is you know they'll be russian chefs at one place and they'll only hire russians or mainly mexicans and they only hire mexicans and then basically uh... you get told by the white owners or black owners or hispanic owners sorry they can't talk to you anymore you don't have your job and these are degreed chefs that basically it's just like outsourcing computer jobs to india you train someone to replace you and then sorry this this
00:48:24.000You know, I go out and protest the Klan, I've done it over ten times, and I'll protest Mecha, La Raza, and the Reconquistas all day long, because I I'm the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
00:48:35.000And that's just how I am, that's what I do.
00:48:39.000And so I get threats from the Klan, and I get threats from Larrick and Keistis, and I just don't care, you're all a bunch of scum in my boat.
00:48:48.000And so, a thousand into twenty-five million.
00:49:00.000So, that's how many of the illegals they grabbed yesterday in this big, multi-state, five-state, one-thousand people arrested and their employers arrested.
00:49:12.000Because they know it's... Listen, they did their PR thing and it's a bell they can't unring.
00:49:17.000Everybody for the first week saw the Mexican flags and the pictures of whites' heads chopped off and the, this is our continent, blah, blah, blah.
00:49:24.000And then the big UT Chicano study professor at Dallas, or at Arlington, I always just say Dallas, Metroplex, came out and said, we've got to kill all the gringos, it's a quote.
00:49:34.000Used to, he just said, implement the plan of San Diego, kill all white males, 16 and older.
00:49:38.000So when my son turns 16, he'll have to, I guess, go kneel, and he'll get a big sword, and, DIE DEVIL WHITE!
00:49:45.000I mean, I guess I need to go ahead and report for, you know, to be killed.
00:49:50.000I'm supposed to go, oh, you're so sweet.
00:50:35.000So, I mean, we've got a group of people running around doing all this, declaring this is Mexico, And then the government, because everything's blowing up in their face, thank God, goes out and busts a thousand people.
00:50:47.000If I see a thousand busted a day, for a year, I will say bravo and the government's turn the corner.
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00:54:28.000Bill Deeth: I just see Bill 10 years ago out of the Second Amendment rallies because we're evil liberals.
00:54:33.000You know, Brogan's liberal now, folks.
00:54:36.000Bush, as Bob Barr on the NRA board told us a few months ago, former congressman, George Bush is more anti-gun than Bill Clinton.
00:54:44.000But I know, I was at the gun shop a few weeks ago and they told me that it was all made up and I'm just lying, that George Bush is just absolutely wonderful.
00:54:53.000We're not going to be talking too much about the Second Amendment, we're going to be talking about the financial standing of this country and the agreements that have been made and the inflation of the money supply and foreign countries dumping the dollar, starting the dumping of the dollar That is coming up in the next hour.
00:55:10.000Right now, let's go to Ron in New York.
00:55:18.000Two separate subjects, but they were both shocking.
00:55:21.000One was with Chris Simcox of the Minutemen, and he said that he had inadvertently gotten swept up in traffic, and as a consequence of it, he had to enter Mexico, and he immediately turned around and did a U-turn to come back into the United States.
00:55:37.000When he did, he encountered American, American customs and authorities.
00:55:44.000And they actually gave him a hard time and asked this guy, I mean this man is clearly an American, a generational American, why he wanted to come into the United States.
00:55:56.000Sir, I mean, many times I've been down to Mexico, just in the last few years, and literally, people, you know, obvious people from the colonies, Southern Mexico, with little cowboy hats, and their families pour right in front of you, and then customs shakes you down because they think you might be carrying Rohypnol or steroids or Valium across.
00:56:54.000We have Al Garza with the Texas Minute Men in studio tomorrow.
00:56:58.000And in addition, on another issue, you remember the very famous incident of the American contract workers that were burnt and hung from a bridge in Fallujah?
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:15.000Now into the second hour on this live Thursday, the 25th day of April, 2006 edition.
00:59:21.000What would happen if Iran was caught through one of its surrogates, one of its minions, trying to sneak in 2,000 shoulder-launched missiles that can bring down commercial aircraft?
00:59:50.000Chinese man admits plot to import missiles to U.S.
00:59:54.000Reuters, a Chinese national living in Southern California, admitted on Wednesday to trying to arrange the sale from China to the United States of 200 shoulder-fired missiles that can be used to bring down aeroplanes.
01:00:05.000Chao-Tung Wu, 51, pled guilty in Los Angeles federal court to conspiring to import the missiles for a buyer who turned out to be an undercover FBI agent.
01:00:14.000Glad the FBI is doing something out there other than running around harassing patriots.
01:00:19.000This is out of the Washington Times, Bill Gertz, Chinese military linked to missile smuggling.
01:00:25.000Court papers made public yesterday in the case of California man who pled guilty to trying to smuggle anti-aircraft missiles into the United States show that Chinese general and state-run manufacturer are linked to the crime.
01:00:37.000Chow Tung Wu, 51, of California, pled guilty yesterday in U.S.
01:00:41.000District Court in Los Angeles to conspiracy to smuggle Chinese QW-2 anti-aircraft missiles into the United States.
01:00:47.000It was the first conviction under the 2004 anti-terrorism law into preventing the spread of shoulder-fired and portable anti-aircraft missiles.
01:00:55.000And the article then goes into how they basically, how it's connected to the Chinese military.
01:01:01.000And later after the break, later in the interview with Bill Vieth coming up, we will get more into this.
01:01:07.000And it mentions here that China's military has been linked in the past to illicit arms deals, including the attempted sale of AK-47 assault rifles to Los Angeles street gangs.
01:01:23.000Wu informed the agent that there were 24 containers of weapons for sale including the missiles and that the minimum purchase would be eight containers.
01:01:31.000Documents provided that the agent included a proposal for the sale from the Chinese company which makes the QW-2 and other missiles.
01:01:41.000And the total price was going to be $18,380,000.
01:02:44.000So So if for an entire year they arrested 1000 people a day instead of doing this once a year, it would only be 1% of the illegal aliens.
01:02:57.000So we need to write an article about that and put that in perspective.
01:03:01.000Now we're going to go break and come back with our guest Bill Vieth and we're going to get into some really important information for your financial future.
01:03:17.000So he's got the basic good information for you.
01:03:20.000So we're going to go over all of that.
01:03:21.000Then we're going to tie it into what's happening currently in the news.
01:03:24.000Keeping with us, if he wants to stay into the third hour, we have Mark Stevens joining us with adventures from legal land to get into just how corrupt and crazy our courts are.
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01:07:02.000Coming up in the next hour, Mark Stevens, author of Adventures in Legal Land, with a really interesting take on government, the state itself, is it legitimate in any form, and just the wild level of corruption that is now in state and federal courts around this country, and really the world.
01:07:20.000He'll be joining us, and Bill Vieth will be riding shotgun with us for at least part of that as well.
01:07:25.000Again, I've known Bill, he's never been on the show before, For about 10 years or longer, I've always seen with the Second Amendment demonstrations we have, we were barely beating Democrats and Republicans who were trying to restrict the Second Amendment down to almost New York style laws.
01:08:29.000Probably up until about six years ago, I was stuck in the left-right paradigm.
01:08:34.000So I'm not predisposed to believing the way I've come to believe in the last six years.
01:08:39.000But in listening to shows, programs like yours and other alternative media, I began to do my own search for the truth and stopped being so dependent on the mainstream media news.
01:08:50.000So what I focused my research on was, you know, back when they used to say, if you really want to know what's going on, follow the money.
01:08:58.000So I started following the money backwards, and I followed it all the way back to the people that print it out of thin air.
01:09:04.000And it's really not money, it's a system of worldwide credit.
01:09:09.000And then I realized that probably my conclusion is that if we were to magically go back to an honest money system of gold and silver coin rather than this fiat currency credit system, 99% of the world's problems would magically disappear if we could do that.
01:09:28.000The elite get so much power out of the power to coin the money.
01:09:31.000I mean, we always hear debates about who's wealthy, who's rich, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett.
01:09:36.000They're small players compared to the old-moneyed families that have their funds in tax-free foundations that literally own entire industries, entire countries, entire armament factories.
01:09:47.000I mean, these people are the true elite.
01:10:41.000The best way you've found to explain this to the layman out there and why this system you believe isn't good.
01:10:49.000I would say the best way to explain it is by really going back to the basics, which almost seems so simplistic, it seems ridiculous, but nobody... I've asked over 250 people the question, what is the definition of a dollar?
01:11:02.000No one's ever gotten it right, and until a year ago, I didn't even know what it was.
01:11:06.000You know, here I've gone through the education system, a formal education, I've got two doctorate degrees, and I never learned what a dollar was until I went and researched it on my own.
01:11:16.000And the reason that's so important, what a dollar is, a constitutional dollar, is a United States manufactured coin of 371.25 grains of silver.
01:11:58.000And when you have honest weights and measures, it engineers the economy to be based in a free market system where actual labor and ideas are valued and those individuals rise.
01:12:09.000But in a fiat system, it allows these wicked control freaks to get total control.
01:12:15.000And the main reason it does that in the free market system is the dollar, you have to have a constant.
01:12:22.000That never changes value and then you can measure the change in every other dependent variable if you have that constant independent variable.
01:12:30.000But in the fiat dollar it floats so we never know what its value is so we can never accurately measure the change in the value of anything else because we're never holding anything constant.
01:12:40.000So it doesn't matter if it's a silver coin we could have our standard unit of measurement for money could be a bag of Sand.
01:12:49.000And as long as we hold that constant and never change it, we can still measure the value of everything else.
01:13:16.000Not only do these elites literally own the private printing presses known as the world's central banks, and then invade countries that don't have those and install those central banks as control systems that control the entire economic system.
01:13:29.000At the same time, the people aren't able to truly measure what's really happening to them, and it's simply they have their view economically based on the propaganda.
01:13:38.000Absolutely, and like when you say propaganda, see, we've allowed them to control the language, and I call it verbicide.
01:13:45.000They have literally done homicide on the verbiage.
01:13:48.000Well, that's what Eric Blair, known as George Arwell, wrote about, is how they were destroying words, shortening words, manipulating their meanings.
01:13:55.000Now, it's not that I'm even that smart, but now it's hard for me to even communicate with even educated people because they've been given a false lexicon or a false encyclopedia, And they can't even communicate now.
01:14:08.000That's exactly right, and one of the main things they've done it with is the dollar.
01:14:12.000They haven't changed what a constitutional dollar is, they've only changed the verbiage that describes it.
01:14:18.000So now we have a fiat dollar that we call a dollar, and it's not a dollar.
01:14:29.000If we would have stayed on the silver system or the gold system, which some of the Arabs, even the Chinese, are now trying to move to, which is really going to mess us up.
01:14:37.000If we would have done that, Bush in five years wouldn't have been able to devalue the dollar by design by 44%.
01:14:46.000George Bush and his globalist controllers, make no mistake, he's a puppet, wouldn't have been able to play all these games.
01:15:37.000And they're putting the world in debt through this false monetary system.
01:15:41.000And it's really, to use a physics term, it's a black hole where nothing can escape.
01:15:48.000It is designed to build to a certain point and then blow the Ponzi scheme and then everyone basically becomes sharecroppers who owe their souls to the company store.
01:15:57.000It's that same thing of where they would pay people, sharecroppers were basically slaves that didn't know it, Not enough to ever get out of debt, and they'd buy everything at inflated prices from a company store, and you'd have people for generations that are literally slaves.
01:16:11.000Well, it's the same principle as, suppose four of us sat down to play the game Monopoly.
01:16:16.000And we all get a certain amount of money to start the game to purchase properties so we can collect rent on those properties.
01:16:22.000Well, suppose one of those four entities playing the game could reach under the table and had an unlimited supply of these Monopoly dollars.
01:17:13.000But this is a casino where there's no way to win, unless you're an insider.
01:17:18.000You cannot win, and they have imposed this on the entire world, and that's the way they're going to move their one-world government forward, is through the currency.
01:17:26.000I had Walter Berry on a few days ago, and I've looked at all his documents, even the former Comptroller of the Air Force says it's true, and the government investments, and this is off-budget, as you know, but for the listeners, The government investments and just cream, you know, in the black, extra money that they don't even discuss, every year is almost triple the entire GDP of the American people now.
01:17:48.000I mean, it's just, it's off the charts la-la land.
01:17:52.000He said now, I had him on a few years ago, it was up at 75% that they owned, and this is corporations and government merging, now he says it's 83%, in just a few more years they're going to own everything.
01:18:04.000And every time they issue more credit into the worldwide system, it dilutes the purchasing power of the credit instruments that are already in circulation, and that's a tax on the people, and it's a way to enslave the people.
01:18:19.000Would you rather have Bush's 6% on average tax cut, I don't know what bracket you're in, but let's say 6% for someone in the middle income, would you rather, and I want you to answer this over the break, would you rather have that 6% cut, or would you rather have your dollar not be devalued by 44%?
01:18:32.000So I want to get your answer on that when we get back.
01:18:34.000And then let's get into the Bretton Woods Agreement and how this is all set up and what you think geopolitically is going on.
01:18:39.000Because we had this global agreement to not dump the dollar, but now we see a rebellion, or is it staged?
01:18:46.000Your opinion, why are people moving away from the dollar?
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01:23:08.000Bill Vieth, psychologist, good friend of mine, local Austinite activist, joins us.
01:23:13.000We've done a lot of studying on the agreements that were made about how to set up the world financial system right after World War II, and then again they had meetings in the 80s, and now it seems that that old order is breaking up.
01:23:25.000Give us your take on it historically, walk us through it, and then, oh, but first off, answer that question.
01:23:30.000Would you rather have a 6% tax cut or have your dollar not be No question I'd rather not have the dollar devalued.
01:23:45.000I mean, you know, the history of fiat currency shows that every single one in history eventually reaches its intrinsic value, which is zero.
01:25:20.000Well, you know, right from the beginning, from the adoption of the Constitution, the central bankers from Europe had always been trying to impose a central banking system of paper credit into the society, and the founding fathers knew what that, you know, would entail, so they He gave certain powers to Congress and said that Congress had the power to coin money.
01:25:49.000And money was defined basically as a gold and silver coin.
01:25:53.000And Congress was prohibited from emitting bills of credit, which is what we have now.
01:25:59.000And so there was always this pressure right from the beginning to establish a central bank where they could impose bills of credit on us and get away from an honest monetary system.
01:26:09.000So it went through several machinations over time, and then the Federal Reserve came into existence in 1913, and that was the beginning of the end.
01:26:17.000But the first 20 years of the Federal Reserve, those pieces of paper, those dollars, were redeemable on demand for gold or silver coin.
01:26:27.000In 1933, as we know, Roosevelt came in and basically stole the money from the people by making them turn in their gold to the central banks.
01:26:36.000And a lot of people, when they hear this, email me and say, that's not true.
01:26:50.000And then overnight, they doubled the price.
01:26:53.000And you know, actually, most of the gold had already been turned in because people would take their gold to the central banks and get these receipts for the gold, which we call dollars, believing that those receipts, those pieces of paper, would be redeemable on demand.
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01:32:05.000The Trilateral Commission, founded in 1973 by Brzezinski, David Rockefeller, and others, is a global consortium of top economics experts who try to work in concert to bring into fruition is a global consortium of top economics experts who try to work in And they said that they're going to have an Asian Union, an American Union, a European Union.
01:32:30.000They're going to play those currencies off against each other and then convince the people that they need a global currency.
01:32:36.000And they're now openly discussing this this year at the Davos Switzerland Conference.
01:32:42.000They came out and said, well, we'll also have our currencies in a few years, but they'll all be at a global benchmark to stop this wild fluctuation, and then that will give them global control to then, in a unified way, manipulate the currencies and debase them even further, robbing us of the value of our daily work and the energies that we expend.
01:33:04.000And simultaneously you see a move to destroy property rights where, in kind of an imperial way, the government says if some local robber baron wants your property, he can take it, but they don't tell you about the New London Connecticut cases, they're not even paying people tax value, they're paying them condemned value in many cases, or nothing at all that they resist.
01:33:28.000So, similar to the riots we see in China as the farmers refuse to have their land stolen, these peasants, it's happening here in America and we're just rolling over for it because we just can't get that it can actually happen here.
01:33:41.000Going back to Bill Vieth, who's done a lot of research on this subject, a local Austin activist, and of course has two doctorates in psychology.
01:33:49.000Bill, or Doctor, please continue getting into this, because you had gotten up with the gold being confiscated in 1933 and the whole War Powers Act, then accelerating up into the late 60s and the dual system they had us on, and now where we are today.
01:34:08.000Okay, yeah, Bretton Woods was a major event in our monetary history.
01:34:14.000toward the conclusion of the World War II, the major countries of the world, the major countries of the world got together at Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, at a hotel, and they laid out a plan to establish a new monetary system where the world was definitely going to go off the British and they laid out a plan to establish a new monetary system where the world was definitely going to go off the British pound sterling as the world's reserve currency and begin a new
01:34:41.000So what they did, what that meant was establishing it as a world's reserve currency, what they did was they decided that the central banks in all of these countries were going to hold dollars as their reserve assets to peg their own currency against.
01:34:58.000So they no longer had to hold gold or silver in reserve.
01:35:02.000They could hold dollars because the United States promised that those dollars would be redeemable internationally on demand for gold.
01:35:11.000And so the countries of the world Believe them, just like the people of the United States did, that those dollars would always be redeemable.
01:35:18.000You have the Bangalore American establishment, even Forbes admits the biggest owner of American companies are the British oligarchy, and the Sachs-Coburg does the Rothschilds others, and so they openly said, we got the big military, you're going to do this, and countries that didn't got invaded.
01:35:34.000Absolutely, and are still getting invaded to this day.
01:35:36.000there's a few countries that are not under the umbrella of the Federal Reserve, International Monetary Fund, World Bank.
01:35:51.000So there were about eight countries that were not under the umbrella.
01:35:55.000And coincidentally, those are the countries that the United States has always labeled the axis of evil or the rogue countries that did not join the family of nations because those central banks were not under the powers of the rest of the central banking system of the world.
01:36:10.000So anyway, in 1944, they set up Bretton Woods.
01:36:15.000The dollar became the world's reserve currency.
01:36:19.000They set up an oil exchange in London and the United States.
01:36:24.000And basically, the rule was that all oil purchases in the world would be settled in dollars at those two exchanges.
01:36:34.000And so they pegged the basic energy measurement or value to their fiat system as well.
01:36:41.000Right, so if let's say Japan wanted to buy oil, they couldn't use yen to buy the oil, they had to use yen to buy dollars and use dollars to buy the oil.
01:36:51.000If Namibia or Cuba or any country wanted to buy oil, they had to get United States dollars because they had to buy it at either the London or the New York oil exchange and they would only sell it in dollars.
01:37:02.000So we imposed The fiat dollar on the rest of the world and now the entire world had to start competing for the United States dollars and then many countries, even if they traded with each other in other commodities or resources, they only settled their accounts in United States dollars.
01:37:20.000So literally, the dollar became the world's reserve currency and it was in demand all over the world so the United States could import inflation worldwide.
01:37:30.000And then the euro came online four and a half years ago, and since then we've seen a massive slide in the value of the dollar from the euro being valued at its opening at 87 cents to the dollar, now being valued, depending on what day you look at it, at $1.30 above the dollar, $1.35 above the dollar, or my mother was just over in Italy visiting friends, and she said, yeah, 10, or, she was describing how basically six euros is $10.
01:38:00.000Okay, well, you know, the euro is a fiat currency also.
01:38:04.000It's no better than the dollar, it's just newer in its lifespan.
01:38:08.000If you look at... They haven't inflated it yet.
01:38:22.000Because they know that every fiat currency has a lifespan.
01:38:25.000It has a beginning, and a middle, and an end.
01:38:28.000And as you look at the decline curve, as it reaches its end, the decline curve starts to go parabolic, and that's when they know they have to implement another system.
01:38:36.000It speeds up, that's what the other... Where are we right now on that graph?
01:38:39.000You can show the cameras that are in here.
01:38:41.000Well, if you're going down, you start, you know, the dollar starts to decline very gradually, and then the slope gets steeper and steeper and steeper, and all of a sudden it starts to just drop off a table, and we're right where it's starting to drop off that table.
01:38:52.000I was about to say, every indicator is, and every indices is, that it's starting to plunge.
01:38:56.000That's called the parabolic decline, where you start to get the curve, instead of the straight line decline, it curves down.
01:39:03.000I mean, this is amazing, and these same people, as they do this to us, I talk to successful people, and I talk to millionaires who don't even understand this.
01:39:13.000I wouldn't top that in economics, and they just roll their eyes at you.
01:39:17.000But some poor immigrant from China or Mexico, they know all about having a weak currency.
01:39:22.000Well, because they've been stuck enough times with their currencies losing their value.
01:39:27.000Generation after generation after generation, it hasn't happened in the United States.
01:39:31.000We've been able to impose The currency system for a longer period of time because it is the world's reserve currency.
01:39:37.000So why is the Bretton Woods Agreement post-World War II breaking up?
01:39:42.000I mean I talked about it earlier and the Trilateral Commission said that they had to basically hide the parabolic plunge that you were just talking about and so to do that they have to give other false alternatives.
01:40:41.000He was a puppet of the globalists, as all our presidents have been since Lincoln.
01:40:45.000But in 1971, when we went off the gold standard internationally, the United States had made agreements with OPEC to only sell oil in dollars worldwide and only at certain prices.
01:41:01.000And so we kind of went off the gold standard, but we went on an oil standard.
01:41:06.000And oil has been the de facto backer of the dollar since 1971, and that's breaking down.
01:41:11.000And so militarily, the Anglo-American establishment has to dominate those oil reserves and those oil pools.
01:41:17.000People always think, well, Saddam, you know, Our government didn't want the oil, because now the oil isn't even flowing at previous levels.
01:41:25.000They don't understand that the globalists have said in their own documents, they got mad at Saddam in 1990 for quote, over-pumping.
01:41:31.000OPEC got mad, it was driving down prices.
01:41:33.000He said, I'm just paying off my debts.
01:41:39.000I'm not defending Saddam, he was one of their cronies.
01:41:41.000But I mean, right there it shows they actually want to keep oil prices and now that's why they want to go into Iran and secure some of the major oil reserves right along the Iraqi border and claim that that's a bumper zone, again, to keep the price high.
01:41:54.000Well, and not only that, but they have to keep it where oil is only settled in dollars.
01:42:01.000Because if it starts to be settled in Euros or seashells or gold or silver, anything else but dollars, then the dollar will continue its implosion.
01:42:12.000The Arabs are always talking about going to a gold system where you have to buy their oil and gold.
01:42:18.000The problem is there's not that much gold out there.
01:42:21.000Now the Chinese are coming into the gold market.
01:42:23.000The Chai Kom government is allowing people to buy gold, and I think that's part of one of the things that's stimulating the surge in gold prices.
01:42:30.000Well, I'm sure it is, but I think it's kind of a fallacy to say there isn't enough gold out there.
01:42:46.000What it would do is it would bring down the false prices that we have of everything based on this inflated currency, and everything would get back into line with the real value against gold or silver.
01:43:00.000And then these Keynesian economists from the British School of Economics there in London, they try to say, well, the fiat system is good because it encourages people because their money is being devalued at a moderate pace.
01:43:15.000It encourages people to spend and keep the quote economy growing.
01:43:18.000But we look at previous economies, our own economy, the strongest, fastest growing real value economies are the economies that aren't fiat.
01:43:28.000Well, that's a historical and statistical fact, that if you look through civilizations, that during the periods they used gold and silver coin, they prospered.
01:43:38.000And it was when they started to debase the coinage or implement other types of fiat currency systems is when they declined.
01:43:44.000The Babylonians, the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, the French, I mean, it just goes on and on.
01:43:51.000Absolutely, and those are historical facts, those are not opinions.
01:43:55.000So from your studying, Dr. Belvede, when you look at it, it's pretty clear then that there isn't some global war between elites going on over who will have the preeminent currency because we know that these institutions are owned by the same individuals.
01:44:15.000And so, you know, they're probably going to try to collapse the entire Western world, the South America, Central America, United States and Canada into one currency.
01:44:24.000They're openly calling for that, by the way.
01:44:27.000And they're going to do they've kind of done that with the euro and they're going to try to expand that.
01:44:30.000And then they'll try to have an Asian currency.
01:44:32.000And now if they can get us into a three currency system and make it look like they're competing, they can play one off the other, devalue all of them or two of them against one.
01:44:40.000And then say just what they said with the 1913 Federal Reserve Act.
01:44:43.000Oh, we've been having global spikes in currency value.
01:44:47.000That's because the currencies are fighting with each other, not because they're based on a fraud measurement or value.
01:44:57.000And this fighting between currencies is not really fighting, it's intentional manipulation so that nobody ever knows the value of their currency so they can continue to steal the wealth.
01:45:06.000Now they have tried to suppress gold, which a lot of experts say is valued well over a thousand dollars with inflation or even higher.
01:45:11.000Do you think they've genuinely lost control?
01:45:15.000Because we know they've been trying to buy gold from each other at reduced prices and then posting daily that reduced price globally to drive it down, but it seems like there's a gold rush on now and they can't put the genie back in the bottle.
01:45:26.000I think it's the beginning of the loss of control.
01:45:28.000I don't think they've lost the control yet because as long as they can, these different central banks, can print currency and impose them on an unsuspecting public and get the public to use those and buy dollar-denominated assets and other paper promises, as long as they can do that, they can continue to manipulate.
01:45:45.000But when that game is up, when everybody says, you know, this paper, these paper promises are worthless, we're not doing this anymore, then the game's over.
01:45:53.000So you think they're in real danger of their system gyrating out of control?
01:46:02.000Shows like yours letting the public know is a big help.
01:46:05.000But they haven't completely lost control yet because All of the central banks in the world, they don't want the dollar to just collapse because they've got dollar-denominated assets.
01:46:15.000They want to get out of theirs before everybody else catches on.
01:46:21.000They've taken their worthless paper and bought tangible assets and resources while the public has no idea what's going on.
01:46:27.000They're still buying T-bills and Treasury bonds.
01:46:29.000That's why there's wild buying by the Spanish family of our roads and water districts, and Germans buying everything up, and Japanese, and UAE.
01:46:40.000Well, they're privatizing what used to be public resources.
01:46:43.000They're privatizing them now, and these rich families are getting control of them.
01:46:47.000Now, let me get your view on investments because, I mean, obviously real estate is overvalued in most areas of the country, but at least there's something real, tangible, real land.
01:46:56.000It may go down for a while, but it will go back up later.
01:47:16.000Well, see, I think right now the real estate prices are at an inflated bubble, so I don't know if it's a good purchase.
01:47:22.000I think if you've already got it... See, the people that are in trouble with real estate are the ones that are leveraged too highly, and now if the prices of real estate plunge 10 or 20 or 30 percent, and one of the family members loses their job and they can't make the mortgage payment, now they're going to get that real estate taken.
01:47:41.000By the way, that's already starting to happen.
01:47:43.000It is starting to happen across the country.
01:47:53.000The problem is going to be for the people that bought at inflated prices, borrowed at 100% or 95% of the debt, and now they can't make their mortgage payment two months in a row, and the bank comes in, they lent them credit out of thin air, but they're going to get a house now, a tangible asset.
01:48:09.000What about people who are just sitting on a bunch of cash?
01:48:12.000Well, I started, and I put my money where my mouth is, three and a half years ago, I started buying gold and silver coins and silver bullion.
01:48:22.000I bought a lot of silver when it was $4.88 an ounce.
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01:54:52.000I'd just like to say thank you, first off, for doing what you're doing, because you are educating a lot of people.
01:54:58.000And I can imagine how hard it is to try to get people to understand How bad of a shape we really are in this country, because we really are in bad shape.
01:55:08.000Well, if you think it's bad now, we're just cruising in towards the tarmac and just wait until we crash.
01:55:14.000And I'd also like to thank Charlie Sheen, because he really, really helped a lot.
01:55:19.000I was hoping that more stars would come out.
01:55:22.000Keep the, you know, keep the wave going.
01:55:25.000Well, I mean... Even in the public eye.
01:55:26.000Ed Asner did, and there's a bunch of others who are just afraid, too.
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01:55:30.000Um, and I wanted to bring up one point that I haven't heard you mention today, and that was, uh, last night on MSNBC on the, uh, Rita Cosby Show, they interviewed Josh Nichols, the son of, uh, Terry Nichols.
01:56:14.000Well, I think anybody that believes the official version has not spent one minute doing any independent research.
01:56:23.000Yes, so many people since Shane went public thought he was crazy and went and looked it up, and he's getting literally hundreds of letters and emails, but people don't even know his address, he's still getting it.
01:56:32.000And his parents are getting letters, everybody he knows are getting letters, and it's almost all positive.
01:56:36.000And it's, I didn't believe you, I checked it out, it's true, oh my God.
01:56:49.000Hi Alex, great to be on your show again.
01:56:52.000I wanted to let you and your listeners know that in New Hampshire we aren't laying down to this police state and on Saturday 11 to 1 p.m.
01:57:05.000the Granite Staters are getting together to support our law that's coming up to not obey the Real ID Act and you can get information on that at www.granitestateid.com and to your author The Federal Reserve started to stop reporting on the M3 money supply a few months ago.
01:58:37.000But the caller just raised the point of Inflating the money supply.
01:58:42.000The Federal Reserve since 1913 has always told us how much money they're printing in digits on a ballot sheet, and also in fiat paper currency.
01:58:51.000Now they're saying, hey, we're not going to have any reporting to you, and that's one reason that the gold's exploding.
01:59:22.000So if that's the case, it's just, you know, even though they're not printing the number, the world, the effect is the world is acting like they are printing two trillion dollars.
01:59:31.000And that's why the commodity prices have exploded since March 20th.
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01:59:45.000We see the commodities across the board start exploding.
01:59:48.000We know what that real number is because the insiders know that.
01:59:51.000I've been saying conservatively gold will go to a thousand, but you've done the math, doctor.
01:59:56.000You were saying twenty-one plus hundred dollars per ounce?
01:59:58.000Right, well, back in 1980, gold hit about $850 an ounce before they started really manipulating the gold price downward.
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02:06:11.000Mark Stevens is going to be joining us in just one moment after I finish up something here with Bill Vieth who's in the studio and will be riding shotgun with us for the rest of the hour.
02:06:26.000And it just gets into the criminality of the courts, the general craziness, and he's here to talk about his book with us today.
02:06:32.000And near the end of the hour I want to get some into his view of there just no state is legitimate and we can debate that and go over that because I believe that you're always going to have some type of state.
02:06:41.000Because you're always going to have rogue criminal groups that try to set up a state.
02:06:45.000So we need to be able to set up some type of limited, even if it's a free market, voluntary state to control and restrict those folks.
02:06:51.000And I know Mark has some views on that that I think are revolutionary and very informative.
02:06:57.000But Bill, during the break we were talking about your family.
02:07:00.000You told them three years ago, and you just woke up, you've been a conservative for many years, we've helped fight gun laws and stuff here in Texas together, because we're liberal, we're pro-guns, we're liberal under the Bush paradigm.
02:07:11.000But some of your family, I guess, wasn't fully believing you, but three plus years ago you convinced them to get gold and silver, and boy, I bet you've really got some converts now because their investments have more than doubled with silver.
02:07:29.000I took every piece of paper I had, whether it was a stock, a bond, or a Federal Reserve note, or a CD, and I cashed them all in and I started purchasing gold and silver coin.
02:07:40.000And I took physical possession and they are hidden.
02:07:43.000They are buried under the ground somewhere.
02:08:06.000A member of the government would accompany people to their safe deposit box and they'd take out the gold and guns, basically.
02:08:14.000And so no, you've got to take physical possession.
02:08:17.000I mean, you can't even buy a gold or a silver stock.
02:08:20.000You've got to buy it physical and take physical possession because the way they have suppressed the prices of gold and silver and manipulated prices downward over the years is by selling paper contracts for gold and silver.
02:08:34.000Well, that's how the Rothschilds took control in Europe starting 300 years ago.
02:09:14.000They issue the paper, and now they've just gotten rid of the gold entirely, and then tell us, oh, don't have gold, while they're privately buying gold for themselves.
02:10:15.000Well, the whole problem extends from government.
02:10:19.000If you didn't have government, then the Federal Reserve and systems and the manipulation of the monetary system, if you will, couldn't take place.
02:10:27.000It's only because of government that you have such abuses.
02:10:30.000You take government out of the picture, and in a voluntary society, you can have a bunch of idiots put worthless pieces of paper on the market, and people would have the Able to either accept it or not, and obviously, you know, idiots like that will go out of business.
02:10:44.000But it's because of government, and government is the base problem.
02:10:49.000The problem is, is that they've confused all the terms.
02:10:51.000Now, of the 100 biggest economies, 40 plus of them, what, 44 of them are corporations, and they're acting in a governmental way, and then fake conservatives confuse people and go, yeah, we agree with Mark Stevens.
02:11:01.000We want privatization, hand everything over to them, but then they just operate as governments.
02:11:07.000Well, corporations have the same... The reason why corporations do what they're doing... They're chartered by the government.
02:11:17.000Usually, there's almost no personal liability whatsoever.
02:11:20.000Occasionally, you'll get something where they so-called pierce the corporate bail, but they typically don't.
02:11:25.000They work hand-in-hand with government to, of course, plunder and rape people.
02:11:30.000I want to start... I mean, I've kind of brought us to the end here at the start.
02:11:33.000Start with how you woke up, who you are.
02:11:35.000Tell us about your book, and then I want to first get into just the insane criminality of the courts.
02:11:40.000I mean, here's one example after you tell us about yourself, for those who don't know who you are, who've been hiding under a rock.
02:11:45.000Two weeks ago, Rocky Mountain News State Judge says, I don't care if this 16-year-old didn't break a law, photographing himself with a gun, because his dad's a gun collector, and then someone saw the picture.
02:11:58.000It doesn't matter if he's allowed to have the gun in his house.
02:12:00.000It doesn't matter if he didn't threaten anybody.
02:12:04.000I'm convicting him and keeping him in jail for years.
02:12:06.000And the judge just said, I don't need a law anymore to put you in jail.
02:12:09.000Or, people aren't even People aren't even indicted or charged yet in the case of them arresting two quote drug dealers and they're taking them to the dentist to rip out their gold fillings out of their mouth, their gold crowns.
02:12:26.000You're trying to steal people's teeth before even charges have been made.
02:12:29.000Are those not two examples of government total criminality?
02:12:32.000Bush saying he's above the law on torture, Bush saying he's above the law on the NSA, Bush saying he's above the law... He signed a bill a month ago that hadn't even passed, a two billion dollar spending bill.
02:12:42.000I mean, we've entered Twilight Zone La La Land.
02:12:45.000Well, it's the above the law mentality that led me to realize there was no state and that there is no such thing as a legitimate government, ever.
02:12:53.000Because I was researching into This absolute immunity that judges are supposed to have.
02:12:59.000And what I found in cases like, I quote in the book, Bowers v. Vito, and there's hundreds of these, that the government has no duty to protect anybody.
02:13:07.000Whether it's state, local, federal, it doesn't matter.
02:13:11.000And I look and the only thing that makes somebody a citizen is a duty of allegiance in return for a duty of protection at their reciprocal obligations.
02:13:19.000Well, if there's no duty to protect, it struck me that then there's no duty of allegiance, there are no citizens, and the whole thing started to collapse from there.
02:13:29.000And I've gone into court, And I, based on that information, not that I've gone into court with a lot, I know a lot of people that go in and they, they don't understand that the state doesn't exist, it's a fiction.
02:13:47.000And not one prosecutor, judge, lawyer, cop, none of them could ever answer.
02:13:51.000None of them would actually say yes or no to me.
02:13:54.000Well, before we get into all these legal theories and ideas, which I agree with you on most of your stances on your research, go back to how Mark Stevens woke up.
02:14:04.000Well, not to go into too big a case, I was in a traffic case for failure to produce identification, which that tells you right there you've got a serious problem that you're not in a free society.
02:14:15.000Hundreds of times federal and state courts have ruled you don't have to ID, but still they arrest people every day for it.
02:14:23.000Brown v. Texas makes it clear, unanimous Supreme Court decision, you don't have to show police identification unless it's probable cause that you are engaged in a crime.
02:14:47.000And so what happened was I read Brown v. I mean, I impeached all five police officers against me that testified.
02:14:53.000The judge said, you can impeach all your witnesses, they're a bunch of liars, He still convicted me, and I figured, well, the last thing I have is Brown vs. Texas, and I read it, and the guy sneers down at me.
02:15:27.000And did you see the case two weeks ago?
02:15:28.000I see one every day now, where they go, no one was found guilty, but you're going to jail.
02:15:33.000How many people know the Davidians, in 94, were found not guilty by the jury, but Walter E. Smith said, I'm putting you all in jail for 47 years.
02:15:42.000He said, I find you guilty for using firearms in the commission of murder, when they were found not guilty for murder.
02:15:49.000Yeah, they were acquitted on all the charges of murder, that it was a self-defense, and yes, and it's happened here in Phoenix, and it's happened a lot of places, especially a tax case.
02:15:59.000There's a famous case here, out of Phoenix, where a man sued Smitty's on his own, won a huge jury settlement, and the judge stood up and said, not in my court, and I actually saw the order from the judge, and it said, whoa, what a tangled web we weave, when unto a lawyer we fail to cleave.
02:16:19.000And even though the judge was censored by the Arizona Supreme Court, they never reversed or gave him back his jury decision.
02:16:27.000So, I want people to hear this loud and clear.
02:16:29.000People are going to jail and the judge says, no laws have been violated, but I'm sending you to prison.
02:16:36.000Well, it gets even worse than that, and I don't know how much time we have in this segment.
02:16:39.000What I started looking at was the whole basis of government and the whole basis for the government to bring a case against you, even if they, even if you Let's say you have drugs, and the law says you're not supposed to have drugs, or you're supposed to file a tax return, and the law says you're supposed to file a tax return.
02:16:56.000Even if they can show that, they still don't have a case against you or have standing to complain against you in court.
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02:22:00.000Mark, my question of this orgy of looting.
02:22:03.000I mean, every indicator is that the government and its minions are going wild.
02:22:07.000People don't know that in the New London case, Kelo versus New London up in Connecticut, that they're not even giving people tax value, much less best value or best price.
02:22:19.000They're telling them, we're going to give you condemned value, a $300,000 plus house you've been paying taxes on.
02:22:40.000Well, that's true because people, I explain this in my seminars at length, because you're talking, if you look at the Stanford Prison Experiment, I agree with you about the prison planet.
02:22:51.000And what I discuss is how the whole world is one big Stanford Prison Experiment, where you've got billions of people pretending to be citizens and residents of non-existent states and countries, and you've got a few million people, a couple hundred million people, pretending to be senators and presidents and congressmen and whatnot.
02:23:08.000And if you go through that experiment, it explains why people...
02:23:12.000In the United States, so-called, can't get away from this theology called government... And we have a multiple doctorate psychologist here.
02:23:21.000For those who don't know what the Stanford experiment was, tell them in a nutshell.
02:23:27.000Well, I mean, obviously, in a nutshell... Yeah, Mark, you tell them.
02:23:31.000Well, what happened was, in a nutshell, it was a psychological experiment conducted, it was supposed to be two weeks long, where they were doing a mock prison.
02:23:39.000Half a group of young men were going to pretend to be prisoners, the other half were going to pretend to be prison guards.
02:23:43.000They had to stop the experiment within six days because the psychiatrist doing the experiment said that the guards were becoming sadistic.
02:23:51.000He also had what was called de-individuation within 36 hours.
02:23:56.000Because what that means in a nutshell is that the people pretending to be prisoners, who knew they were pretending, this is extremely critical, they knew they were pretending and lost their personal identity.
02:24:06.000They could only identify themselves as part of the collective group of prisoners.
02:24:10.000And that's what you have where people cannot identify themselves as other than citizens or residents of the United States or Texas or whatnot.
02:24:17.000There was another famous case where they had them practice giving them electric shocks but told them in a double-blind study you're actually going to kill somebody and they would follow the orders to kill.
02:24:27.000That was the Milgram experiment and I have that link on my website and I used those two experiments together to explain the nature and basis of government and the psychological basis why people cannot accept The truth!
02:24:38.000And when you were speaking with the doctor before the break, before I came on, about the cognitive dissonance, that it doesn't fit the paradigm.
02:24:46.000People cannot identify that they have a very difficult time accepting that there is no state, there is no United States, there is no such thing as a president, and there are no citizens.
02:24:56.000And that's because of the de-individuation.
02:24:58.000They've been pretending that they're citizens for so long, they can't You have to grasp the truth that they are just Alex Jones, or they're just Mark Stevens, and the whole thing that they've been scamming their entire lives.
02:25:13.000These two experiments give you the psychological basis for that.
02:25:16.000Why is it possible for George Bush and all these other people to murder 3,000 people?
02:25:21.000If you look at the Stanford Prison Experiment, within six days of controlling other men and women, Okay?
02:25:27.000You don't see them as human beings anymore.
02:25:29.000And that's why it's possible to do that.
02:25:32.000That explains the whole psychological nature that it is very possible... And by the way, it is almost unknown in history for governments not to mass murder and slaughter and go totally nuts.
02:25:41.000It's the very nature of sickos to get into control.
02:25:45.000Well, that's because a normal person doesn't have an appetite to continually, you know, try to exert power.
02:25:49.000Well, I'm glad you said normal, because you're absolutely right, because government is just a gang of kill-if-these-are-liars.
02:25:55.000And someone, another host of GCN had asked me, didn't the founding fathers at least have good intentions?
02:26:01.000And I said, well, I don't care what their intentions are, but I would say no, because the one question you need to ask about their intentions is this.
02:26:08.000Were the services of protection, which is the only legitimate basis of government was to protect, which of course they don't, Were their services provided on a voluntary basis?
02:26:54.000Now, if there's no duty to protect anybody, and we know statistically over two million crimes are prevented by private people every year, and not by the police, tell me why you want the guns.
02:27:07.000It would be a very interesting response if you could get one, which you probably would not, because he would probably argue that they do have a duty to protect, which of course is an outright lie.
02:27:16.000Because we have all the court cases in their own statements, and I'm not saying there aren't some good cops who change your tire and help you, and help you cross the street, and that the firemen don't do a great job.
02:27:25.000It's just that cynically at the top, it's something but a bunch of parasites, and government is a mechanism, a proboscis, to suck our innards.
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02:32:23.000But, Mark, Dr. Veith wanted you to be able to comment on the Stanford and the other research tests they did, but then during the break he was giving me more detail on it.
02:32:34.000Of course, I've read the studies, but it's been years, but he was describing them perfectly.
02:32:38.000So, Dr. Veith, take a minute or two out and for the listeners.
02:32:44.000what the Stanford study did and what one of the other studies did, and then how that relates to this general laboratory that is our daily lives.
02:32:54.000It's actually been a number of years since I've read the study back when I was in graduate school, but my recollection of them is that in one of them, an authority figure would tell somebody on command to increase the stimulus of torture to a confederate of the experiment that was in the other room. an authority figure would tell somebody on command to increase And that person actually believed he could push a button and incrementally increase the amount of stress.
02:33:18.000Shock that the person in the other room was getting and the person in the other room each time could tell when the Increments were being increased and that person would scream louder and louder of course that person wasn't really getting shocked But the one that was ordered to give the shock didn't know it thought he was actually given a shot and was doing it on command just because the authority figure was telling him to And so that shows, you know, they can send our police out and our military and have them do stuff to us just based on the command when the authorities tell them to.
02:33:46.000And they say, just following orders, as the Germans said.
02:33:50.000Yeah, that was the Stanley Milgram experiment.
02:33:53.000I know Stanley's better known for the Six Degrees of Separation.
02:33:57.000The subject was told that they are not responsible.
02:34:02.000And that's why I always tie that together with the Stanford Prison Experiment, the obedience to authority, so-called, and the lack of personal responsibility.
02:34:12.000There's a reason Alberto Gonzalez and John Yoo from the White House are saying, we're going to torture children, we're going to sexually torture them.
02:34:18.000It's the reason they say it in public, is they're trying to warp the general public to think, well, authority says they can torture kids, so if they can do that, they can do anything else they want.
02:34:28.000Well, right, and the reason why these people are doing that is because if you become sadistic within 6 days of controlling another man or woman, then what does that say to someone who's been doing it for 6 months, 6 years, or 16 years?
02:34:42.000And I even say the Constitution is part of that mind control because it convinces you you're a citizen and resident of this non-existent country.
02:34:50.000And they are able to then demonize people who are not from the United States.
02:34:57.000Well, I've got something that dovetails with that.
02:35:25.000Well, the citizen, convincing someone he's a citizen, okay, and using that false theology I call it, because, like, separation of church and church, which, you know, the state is a considered church, that enables them, or conditions them, to accept certain other premises, which is, I have to pay taxes, I have to do this, and I have to do that.
02:35:45.000And by creating this, by creating citizens, which don't exist, you can then create illegal aliens, which don't exist.
02:35:52.000And I'm not saying that there are people who are not trespassers.
02:35:55.000I'm in Arizona, I understand the situation.
02:35:57.000But by focusing the attention on a non-issue like illegal aliens, gets people and their attention diverted from the fact that there's a group of men and women called government who are stealing and robbing them blind.
02:36:10.000They're torturing them, they're spying on them, they're controlling them, they're regulating them, they're killing them, they're lying to them.
02:36:15.000And people are, instead of being focused on that, hey, you know, the Bush and gang and, you know, gender politics, these people are stealing from me!
02:36:24.000They're not protecting Mark, are you there?
02:36:29.000I think he was using a digital line to be connected to us.
02:36:32.000I didn't recommend that, but people insisted so.
02:36:43.000Let me add this addendum to what we've been saying here.
02:36:47.000The globalists are setting up a one-world government, where they set the rules, where they have the armies, where they have the courts.
02:36:53.000And the way they've written the rules in the IMF, the World Bank, the World Trade Organization, the World Health Organization, the Ex-Im Bank, the International Bank of International Settlements, they've set it up where they follow no rules, they're above the law, and then we, the people, have absolutely no rights and are chattel slaves for our best interests.
02:37:11.000Dr. V, do you want to comment on that?
02:37:12.000Well, that's exactly what they've done.
02:37:14.000I mean, we do not want to be a citizen of the international community.
02:37:20.000We do not want to be a citizen of the United States, because a citizen has what are called civil rights, and that takes away our God-given rights.
02:37:36.000But you certainly can't debate that now we have a totally illegitimate, out-of-control, crime syndicate that is predatory and seizes its cattle.
02:37:59.000Uh, it just talked to the government what they were allowed to do.
02:38:02.000It's the same thing as, let's say I have a get-together with my neighbors where we live and we hire a company to come in and mow the lawn and clean the common area.
02:38:12.000And we tell them, here's what you're allowed to do and here's what you're not allowed to do.
02:38:16.000And then we start paying them to come in and mow the lawn and clean the common area.
02:38:19.000And over time, they start telling us what to do and how we need to do our lawns.
02:38:23.000And all of a sudden, this company that we hired and gave them specific powers, they're telling us how we need to operate and regulate our lawns.
02:38:31.000That's the same thing that happened with the Constitution.
02:38:37.000I mean, everybody's experiences that's had employees.
02:38:39.000Most employees are pretty good, but always you get one who starts trying to slowly, oh, for your own good, hey, you need to do this.
02:38:45.000And if you let them do that, especially doctors, you know, with office managers they have, the office manager ends up being over them, telling them what to do.
02:38:51.000And that's what government, the people are supposed to be above the government.
02:38:54.000You know, the liberals always say, we don't have God-given rights, they're civil rights.
02:38:58.000Even if you don't believe in God, which I do, you want something above man, because then that can't be changed, because you're going to have a God, whether it's government or whether it's Jesus Christ.
02:39:07.000Well, you know, we have Creator-given rights.
02:39:10.000Even if you don't want to call it a God, I know that the government did not create me.
02:39:15.000So I don't want to get my rights, or my lack of rights, from the government.
02:39:18.000Well, here's another example, and we'll go back to Mark Stevens, who I'm honored to have with us.
02:39:21.000A black man, the laws 200 years ago said he was not a human being, he had no rights, and he got out of line.
02:39:43.000The organic, God-given right of a free human being that came out of his mother's womb from the congress between his mother and his father, that didn't come from the state.
02:39:53.000And that black man, I don't care what the law was, had a right to grab that axe handle out of Master's hands and beat Master's brains out all over the ground and to escape.
02:40:09.000Go ahead and comment on what we were just saying.
02:40:11.000Well, this is why government is the problem, the nature of government is the problem, because it's not voluntary.
02:40:16.000If normal people bring the services to the market on a voluntary basis, And this way, if someone's paying for a service, and the employee or the contractor gets abusive, you can just stop paying him, and the abuse will probably stop.
02:40:32.000When you have government where, by its very nature, is the slave master, there's not much you can do about it, especially when you have the fact that there's no personal accountability, there's no personal liability.
02:40:42.000And then if the black slave, or the Roman-Germanic slave, whatever, tries to escape and kills the master, he's then called a terrorist.
02:40:52.000Well, anybody who opposes the dictates of some lunatic doing business as a government or calling himself a state is always going to be viewed as an enemy.
02:41:01.000The real enemy of the state, so-called, is the truth.
02:41:04.000When you show that there is no state, there are no citizens.
02:41:07.000And that's why I've been able to go into court and be so successful.
02:41:10.000Other people who have bought my scripts have gone in and been so successful at exposing that there is never a case.
02:41:15.000By the way, Mark, for those that don't understand what we're talking about here, can you specifically get into my analogy of the black slave?
02:41:26.000I mean, according to this government, they would say he's a terrorist.
02:41:29.000Then I would add, have you seen the new federally written Virginia anti-terrorism manual given to all the state employees that says land rights activists, property rights activists are terrorists?
02:41:41.000Well, according to somebody who doesn't believe, like, if you look in my book, and you're probably familiar with Senate Resolution No.
02:41:48.00062, that people who do business as a government, or as the state, believe that all property is theirs.
02:41:54.000So when you've got somebody saying it's not, that is a threat to them, and they would consider them, and I could see them considering them a terrorist.
02:42:01.000Anything that threatens their so-called, well, their little system is going to be seen as a threat.
02:42:41.000I mean, Mark Stevens, that really shows how wild they've gotten, though.
02:42:45.000I mean, they weren't doing that 50 years ago, openly saying that if you protest, you're a terrorist.
02:42:51.000Well, no, they did that back in, you know, around World War I, where Woodrow Wilson really was the one that, uh, was the guy who was rounding up anybody who was a so-called anarchist, or protested, or said anything negative about the war.
02:43:05.000Yeah, trading with the Enemy Act, which, by the way, multiple governors, including Rhode Island and other areas, have tried to implement that very law again.
02:43:13.000Well, and you've mentioned on the show a number of times, if people just go to your website, you have the information.
02:43:19.000My gosh, what they wanted to do in Oregon, they want to set up prison camps!
02:43:23.000I mean, concentration camps, for heaven's sake.
02:43:27.000It's a life in prison in a forced labor camp or downloading music.
02:43:31.000Any firearms violation, instant life in prison in a forced labor... It says, forced labor forest camp.
02:43:37.000Yeah, if that's not enough, I mean, I've spoken enough about what it is going to take for people to give up this theology called politics and, you know, the laws and orders.
02:43:47.000The government's not there to protect you, it never was.
02:43:50.000And a good example of how corrupt the system was, you talked about how corrupted the courts are.
02:43:54.000One of the questions I've used, and I've never got a responsive answer to the second question, I ask, am I presumed innocent of the alleged crime?
02:44:04.000Well, am I presumed innocent of uh... every element of the alleged crime and it won't go any further because jurisdiction's an element of the crime and he has to presume he's innocent so he's gotta let me go and that's just as unfair today as it was in 1776 The difference, though, which you point out all the time, is the degree of control that they were able to exercise today, as opposed to 1776.
02:45:04.000But I wanted to bring up something else to both of you gentlemen here before we go to break and come back and take one or two final calls in the final segment if we have time.
02:45:11.000The government admittedly radiated tens of thousands of American children killing them.
02:45:15.000Black men, syphilis, Tuskegee, sterilizing 400 and something thousand women, the ring-armed children I used, you know, these popular examples, public, you know, radiating 110,000 Jewish children, the Israeli government for the U.S.
02:45:43.000You want to comment, Dr. Veef, about the psychology of that?
02:45:47.000Yes, well, you know, they're experts at mind control.
02:45:51.000They understand a lot of these experiments that these universities have done over the years have been funded by the globalists who want to figure out better ways to mind control the people because mind control has to precede behavioral control.
02:46:04.000So they hire the best in the world to conduct these experiments.
02:46:08.000You know, even TV puts you in a trance state.
02:46:11.000When you go to the movies and they darken the theater and they take out all the external distractions and they focus on the big screen, you're in a trance state.
02:46:19.000And when they get you in that kind of a trance state, you are susceptible to suggestions.
02:46:41.000I think he's right, you know, and I would also say that, and I've said this a number of times, you don't necessarily have to be in a trans state to have the images I was talking about your map of the world.
02:46:54.000I know that's not original to me, and we all have our own individual maps of the world, but you could just have Fox News on in the house, and it's going to pass through your conscious mind, right past it, and become a part of your map of the world.
02:47:24.000You don't even have to be watching it.
02:47:25.000You can just be on in the background where the sound of it is going.
02:47:29.000I'm just saying it's more effective with the flickering, though.
02:47:32.000Well, they have multiple techniques, and I mean, we're under barrage from all of them all the time, and most of the time we're not even aware of it.
02:47:40.000But if you're constantly conscious of that, and have your own map that you've laid out, I mean, to me, now when I see propaganda, it just irritates me.
02:47:51.000Oh yeah, and you can get going on at proclaiming to be, once you understand the truth of what's going to go on in citizens, nations, and countries, and you see someone on TV saying, I'm the president, you know he's lying through his teeth.
02:48:01.000It's just like the whole war on terror.
02:48:03.000The only thing I need to show that the war on terror is a complete fraud is to show there's no duty to protect anybody.
02:48:08.000So when this nutcase gets on the TV and says my most solemn obligation is to protect the American people, no it's not.
02:48:14.000And Jim Jones, Jim Jones said he made everybody drill, drink, and make Kool-Aid for their safety.
02:48:21.000Stay there, final segment with Dr. Bill Veith and of course Mark Stevens and we'll see if we can jam a few quick calls in, quick questions.
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02:52:46.000I can testify that what you say about mind control being everywhere is absolutely true.
02:52:52.000I've been harassed in Cincinnati pretty bad.
02:52:55.000We've had to move, and we moved about four years ago, and we've moved three times trying to get away from the harassment.
02:53:01.000It consists of, when I was in law school, I didn't realize this until later because like the doctor said about cognitive dissonance, I came from a sort of conservative and extremely naive point of view, and I didn't fit in with the people in the law school and the and I didn't fit in with the people in the law school and the general tenor of the Sure, so what happened?
02:53:24.000Well, they basically barred me from getting a job in real estate.
02:54:33.000Mark, isn't a lot of this has gotten so criminal now that just stomping around like you're the ogre makes a lot of these people leave you alone?
02:54:41.000It can help in some situations and some it's going, depending on the individual, might actually embolden them.
02:54:47.000And, you know, I don't believe in being a martyr to, you know, it seems like I'm a traffic stop.
02:54:51.000But, you know, depending on the individual, yeah, it could be very effective.
02:54:56.000Well, I mean, by that, I've noticed as soon as someone is wrongly subservient, they psychologically see it as their role to dominate.
02:55:03.000And then if you are confident, but really confident, that telegraphs, then it's their role to be subservient.
02:55:16.000In my experience, what happens when I go into court and I use an unsigned plea of guilty to disarm them psychologically, or I'll go into a tax meeting and say, we're prepared to pay, we'd just like to see the facts.
02:55:27.000That puts them in a pretty dominant role, and they feel that they're going to get what they want.
02:55:31.000I ask a couple of questions, Absolutely cuts them off at the knee.
02:55:35.000I'm not trying to force them to see things my way, but they now, once I ask the questions, the wheels start turning, and then they start to realize I don't have a case here, and they typically back down.
02:55:45.000Mark Stevens, it's clear I'm going to have to get you back up for longer in the near future.
02:55:48.000Author of Adventures in Legal Land, and I hope folks will go to InfoWars.com and get the book.
02:56:04.000We ought to do a whole show on mind control.
02:56:06.000I had a great DVD here that had a lot of facts, and it was expropriated by somebody that watched it at home, and it hasn't come back to the office yet, but I want to play some clips of that, too, on air.