Alex Jones Show - April 27, 2006


20060427_Thu_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 56 minutes

Words per Minute

170.1314

Word Count

29,997

Sentence Count

2,285

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

46


Summary

Alex Jones talks about the continued use of thimerosal preservative in some flu vaccines, martial law in the United States, and much more. Also, a review of the new film A Scanner Darkly.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Big Brother.
00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.
00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:10.000 You want answers?
00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000 I have an article here in front of me on this live Thursday edition, the 27th day.
00:00:32.000 I of April 2006 from the Tennessean.
00:00:37.000 I have another one from the Vaccine Awareness Network and another from the Associated Press.
00:00:42.000 Mercury preservative will continue in some flu vaccines.
00:00:48.000 Now, I remember three years ago when they claimed that they were taking these mercury, the thimerosal preservative, out of all the vaccines.
00:00:56.000 I remember reading that and seeing it on television And hearing it on the radio and then going and reading Associated Press articles and others that said actually they're making available by regulatory law, you could call it, non-mercury based vaccines in small lots.
00:01:18.000 But vaccines themselves in general are going from 50 times the safe level in a single shot To 250 times the safe level.
00:01:30.000 That was in the Associated Press.
00:01:34.000 And I've warned everyone about this, and I get calls and emails every week, oh Alex, they say they took it out.
00:01:39.000 And then we talk to doctors, we talk to nurses, no they haven't.
00:01:43.000 But here it is out of the mainstream newspaper, the Tennessean, mercury preservative will continue in some flu vaccines.
00:01:53.000 So we'll be getting into that.
00:01:56.000 We're scheduled to have John McManus, the head of the John Birch Society, joining us to talk about the open borders, globalism, the New World Order.
00:02:02.000 He's scheduled to be speaking this weekend, I believe this evening, here in Austin, Texas.
00:02:09.000 And he'll be joining us coming up later in this hour.
00:02:12.000 And of course, Michael Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com with his monthly report that he gives us.
00:02:18.000 Always gracious to join us coming up in the second hour.
00:02:20.000 We'll have open phones throughout the day as well.
00:02:26.000 Speaking of vaccines, U.S.
00:02:28.000 efforts might not slow pandemic of bird flu.
00:02:30.000 Seattle Post-Intelligencer, science writer, Seth Borenstein, basically it's all over, even martial law won't save us, so we'll be getting into that.
00:02:41.000 Some good news, Governor Lynch says he will sign bill opposing the National ID Card, known as the Real ID Act.
00:02:47.000 Senate panel recommends abolishing the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
00:02:52.000 Is that good or bad?
00:02:53.000 What's really going on here?
00:02:54.000 Will they replace it with something worse?
00:02:57.000 And we'll continue with students to get no warning before searches.
00:03:01.000 Mayor Bloomberg isn't just going to have random police sweeps on the streets shaking everyone down as they have now in Houston and Miami under federal funding with the quote Viper teams.
00:03:11.000 Now the regular Metropolitan Police in New York will be running around searching the students with no warning, training them that this is a prison grid, prison planet society as well.
00:03:23.000 Also, out of the Dakota Voice newspaper, White House snubs 9-11 families and victims of illegal alien crimes.
00:03:30.000 That is just some of what is coming up as well.
00:03:34.000 We'll get into Russian Member of Parliament predicts start of war.
00:03:38.000 In Iran this year, but he's made predictions before that haven't come true, so we'll take that with a large grain of salt.
00:03:45.000 Kurt Nemo, great editorial.
00:03:47.000 Tony Snowjob, the new whitewasher, to be White House Press Secretary.
00:03:51.000 Some comments on him.
00:03:52.000 Anger as Scotland faces Big Brother ID cards, and much more.
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00:04:23.000 Also, coming up later today, I will give you a review of the new film, A Scanner Darkly.
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00:07:57.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:15.000 Coming up in a few minutes, we've got the president of the John Birch Society, John F. McManus, joining us for the Balance of the Hour.
00:08:25.000 He'll be speaking tomorrow night at the Holiday Inn Northwest, 183 in Moorpark at 730 on the 28th, a $10 admission, doing a speaking tour around the country.
00:08:35.000 That's good.
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00:08:45.000 Into the third hour we'll have open phones and cover all the national and international news.
00:08:50.000 New developments on the bird flu front as the government says they may have to give us martial law to keep us safe.
00:08:57.000 But the media says even that may not be enough.
00:09:00.000 And then, meanwhile, mercury preservative will continue in some flu vaccines.
00:09:04.000 Folks, they never took the mercury out of the thimerosal.
00:09:08.000 In fact, again, the Associated Press and even the CDC admitted that most of the major vaccines, the MMR, multiple jab shots, the flu vaccines, that they in many cases quadrupled or more the level of mercury in them.
00:09:24.000 So, you complain about the Marisol, you get angry, you get upset about it, and they tell you they've taken it out, and then they actually increase the level.
00:09:32.000 Well, here it is out of the Tennessean today.
00:09:36.000 Mercury preservative will continue in some flu vaccines.
00:09:39.000 Legislation that would prevent Tennessee children from getting flu shots that contain a controversial mercury preservative was withdrawn because the bill's sponsor didn't think it would pass.
00:09:48.000 The bill's sponsor, our representative Susan Lynn, a Republican, would not allow pregnant women or any child younger than 8 to receive flu vaccines that contain more than trace amounts of thimerosal, a vaccine preservative that is 49.6-ethylmercury.
00:10:05.000 Some people believe that thimerosal causes autism, but the FDA has said it has found no causal link between thimerosal and autism.
00:10:13.000 Three years ago, Congressman Dan Burton forced the release of a 2000 document from the CDC where the head, it's the minutes of the meeting, admitting that millions have been brain damaged and they've got to cover it up, but they're not going to let their grandchildren take it.
00:10:25.000 Those are the type of quotes in it.
00:10:28.000 I think I had the support of a lot of members, and I'm grateful for that.
00:10:31.000 Lynn said, however, that the persistence of special interests who derailed the bill were just too strong.
00:10:35.000 The bill was opposed by the Tennessee Department of Health, the Tennessee chapter of the American Academy of Pediatricians, and Vanderbilt University Medical Center, among others.
00:10:44.000 So, remember, when you hear there's no mercury in the vaccines anymore, it is a lie.
00:10:51.000 What they did three years ago is they passed federal regulations that vaccine makers have to produce small lots that cost many times more than the mercury-containing vaccines available in case medical providers want it.
00:11:08.000 That's what happened.
00:11:11.000 That's what developed.
00:11:13.000 So it's more smoke and mirrors.
00:11:15.000 This is what they do at every level.
00:11:18.000 So, to answer all the questions, I constantly get emails and phone calls and people on the street going, Alex!
00:11:23.000 You say there's mercury in there!
00:11:25.000 You're a liar!
00:11:26.000 They've taken it out!
00:11:28.000 I heard it on the news!
00:11:29.000 I saw it on television!
00:11:32.000 We have a vaccine section on PrisonPlanet.com and we have multiple mainstream news articles admitting that they've actually increased it In one example in the Associated Press, from 50 times safe levels to 250 times safe levels.
00:11:49.000 They have increased it massively in the vaccines.
00:11:52.000 That is the fact.
00:11:56.000 And I would sincerely hope that people wake up to this fact.
00:11:59.000 All right, we are joined by John F. McManus, and he is traveling the country giving a powerful presentation, an overview of our world.
00:12:08.000 Freedom, few have it, most Don't?
00:12:11.000 Why is that?
00:12:13.000 And Mr. McManus, of course, has been involved with the John Birch Society since 1964, and he has been on their board of directors, he of course now is their president, and he has been all over national television, C-SPAN, he's written books, made documentary films, and
00:12:35.000 He is now traveling the country, giving this lecture, an overview of our world, and he'll be speaking tomorrow night, the Holiday Inn Northwest, 183 in Mopac, at 730, Friday the 28th, $10 admission.
00:12:47.000 And we'll give you more details later of how you can get those tickets.
00:12:52.000 I wish I could go, but I'm in the middle of finishing a new documentary film, so I won't be there.
00:12:57.000 Who knows, I might try to slip out and go see it.
00:13:00.000 I don't want to miss it.
00:13:02.000 But Mr. McManus, it's great to have you with us.
00:13:05.000 Fine, thank you.
00:13:06.000 It's nice to be with you.
00:13:07.000 How do you like Texas?
00:13:10.000 I like the United States of America, any part of it.
00:13:14.000 For those that don't know who you are, for those that have only heard the media spin about the JBS over the years, which I've never been a member of, but many of my friends are, and I do a lot of good work around the country with your publications, videos, and books, tell us about John F. McManus, tell us about your founder, tell us about your illustrious history, and then what your game plan is today for stopping the globalist takeover.
00:13:14.000 Well, I do, too.
00:13:38.000 Well, the John Birch Society was formed in 1958 by a man named Robert Welch, and he named it after World War II hero John Birch, who served in China.
00:13:48.000 I got involved with the Society in 1962, when I was influenced by the mass media attack on the Society, and I have to admit, I agreed with what I was hearing.
00:13:59.000 The John Birch Society is a bunch of screwballs, and dangerous, and so on.
00:14:03.000 Eventually, a member of the Burt Society contacted me and asked me if I was basing my attitude on what the Society had said or what others had said of it.
00:14:13.000 I thought that was a pretty good question, so I wrote back to the fellow and I always say, there began a torturous re-evaluation.
00:14:20.000 So, I joined the Society in 1964 and they asked me to take a staff position in 1966.
00:14:26.000 I've been with the Society ever since.
00:14:29.000 I was named the president of the organization in 1991 and I'm very pleased to serve.
00:14:36.000 The John Birch Society is trying to preserve the American system.
00:14:39.000 We believe what the Founding Fathers gave us is unique in history and certainly worthy of preservation.
00:14:45.000 But we also believe there's a conspiracy operating to destroy our country and bring us into the New World Order.
00:14:51.000 The Novus Ordo Seclorum, if you want it in Latin.
00:14:56.000 And we're anxious to stop that.
00:14:58.000 Some of our major programs are long-time programs to get us out of the United Nations.
00:15:06.000 We've stepped up our information and our concern about the illegal immigration problem.
00:15:13.000 And we have a lot of other issues that we publicize.
00:15:17.000 We have a bi-weekly magazine called the New American We have films and book publishing and video production and all kinds of things that you'd expect of an educational organization.
00:15:29.000 So there's a little bit of a thumbnail sketch.
00:15:32.000 You're going to be speaking tomorrow night at the Holiday Inn at 7.30 p.m.
00:15:35.000 Yes.
00:15:38.000 And that's going to be a $10 admission, and of course later, I need to get Bob Dacey on, one of the local coordinators, to give us more details.
00:15:44.000 We'll probably do that after you leave us later, but we have links to how folks can get tickets beforehand or they're at the door up on InfoWars.com.
00:15:54.000 Just out of the gates here, sir, I want to get your take on two things that have happened in the last few weeks.
00:15:58.000 I interviewed Dr. Hu just Dr. Wong, excuse me, just a few days ago the Chinese American doctor, the transplantee doctor, who valiantly stood up to President Hu, the new Chinese dictator, And of course it's admitted that they advertise in publications that they can give anybody any organ they want in two weeks.
00:16:22.000 They have humans like cattle in these prisons and they just literally blood type them and take them out and then murder them for their organs.
00:16:30.000 They're barbarians, they really are.
00:16:32.000 And now she's being charged under a section of the Patriot Act intimidating a foreign official.
00:16:39.000 She's facing six months in federal prison Just your take on that.
00:16:46.000 I mean, I believe we're becoming more and more like Communist China every day.
00:16:49.000 Right.
00:16:50.000 Well, the United States is supposed to be the land of free speech.
00:16:52.000 That's guaranteed.
00:16:54.000 It's one of the God-given rights that we have protected by the First Amendment.
00:16:58.000 If this woman stood up and protested, I think she said that he was a murderer and that he wasn't welcome in this country.
00:17:04.000 I agree with her.
00:17:06.000 I think she's very courageous and I don't think that she should be prosecuted for what she did.
00:17:12.000 It might not have been the most polite thing to do, but why should you be polite with somebody who is a mass murderer, as any leader of Communist China is, by definition almost?
00:17:23.000 Well, you're right.
00:17:24.000 I mean, we have video now of every month where they machine gun crowds of farmers as they take their property, and the farmers fight back with hoes and picks and clubs.
00:17:34.000 And China seems to be accelerating their abuse of their population, and suddenly our media and our government are defending them.
00:17:42.000 Yeah, and our media and our government are the ones that have made the John Birch Society blackened in the eyes of a lot of people.
00:17:51.000 That they would take up the cause of the Communist Chinese is no surprise to me.
00:17:56.000 But Communist China is still a Communist country.
00:18:01.000 They have forced abortion.
00:18:02.000 They have infanticide.
00:18:04.000 They have this horrible one child per family rule.
00:18:09.000 They suppress religion.
00:18:11.000 They're suppressing the Falun Gong.
00:18:14.000 group of people.
00:18:16.000 But they're the apple of the UN's eye.
00:18:18.000 They give them all the big awards for running a model society.
00:18:21.000 Well, another reason to get us out of the United Nations, I guess, huh?
00:18:25.000 What about David Rockefeller in 76 saying Mao's a wonderful person?
00:18:29.000 Well, David Rockefeller's the only American, oh no, I guess there was another Armand Hammer, who could fly a private plane into Moscow all during the years of the Soviet Union.
00:18:29.000 Right.
00:18:39.000 He was buddy-buddy with them and You know, what it says is that he's a monopolist just like they are, and if we allow him to continue, spread his philosophy, his ideas, then we indeed will end up very much like the tyranny that exists in China today.
00:18:58.000 Yes, sir.
00:18:58.000 When we get back, I want to get into the illegal immigration, the open borders.
00:19:02.000 It turns out even the Dallas Morning News admits that Bush and Cindy Fox's PR firm has staged all of these demonstrations.
00:19:10.000 It's a fifth column brought into the country that the government can use to intimidate the majority of Americans, Hispanic, black, white, it doesn't matter.
00:19:17.000 I want to get John F. McManus, president of the John Birch Society's view on that.
00:19:21.000 And then I want you to just kind of give us an overview of the talk you've been giving that I'm told is riveting, an overview of our world.
00:19:28.000 I'd like you to spend some time and give us an overview of our world in the segment after next.
00:19:33.000 And then I'd like to talk about what you plan to do with the future of the John Birch Society as well as we speak to John F. McManus for the balance of this hour.
00:19:45.000 And I've been trying to get Mr. Maness on for a few years, so it's great to have him with us today.
00:19:51.000 We'll be right back after this quick break right here on the GCN Radio Network.
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00:24:08.000 Waging war on corruption, crashing the lies and disinformation.
00:24:12.000 We've got the president of the John Birch Society who's here in Austin, Texas today for a speech he's giving tomorrow night.
00:24:19.000 We'll tell you more details before he leaves us.
00:24:22.000 Sir, in your, I guess, 42 years of studying what's going on since 1964, can you give us a rundown on what's happening with the 20-plus million illegal aliens running around wrapped in Mexican flags, screaming La Reconquista?
00:24:39.000 Can you give us your take on what's really going on behind that?
00:24:43.000 Well, what's going on is simply an attempt to fracture our country and balkanize it.
00:24:48.000 Set up pockets within it, essentially destroy the United States.
00:24:53.000 You know, in my speech I like to talk about the Emperor Valens back in 370 AD, the Roman Emperor, and he opened up the gates of Rome, of the Empire, for the Visigoths and the Ostrogoths to come in, and he wanted them for cheap labor and for military recruits.
00:25:13.000 Well, after a time, there were so many of them that they decided to get together and they started making war against the Roman legions.
00:25:20.000 And finally, they ended up conquering Rome.
00:25:23.000 And even killing Valens in one of the battles.
00:25:26.000 That was in 410, wasn't it?
00:25:29.000 Yeah, well, no, it was back in the 4th century.
00:25:31.000 I mean, Rome finally really started falling in 410, then it emerged again and was gone by... Right, well, and it was largely a result of illegal... well, then he allowed it legally.
00:25:43.000 But there were so many of them that came in and they didn't want to assimilate, they just wanted to take control.
00:25:48.000 And when these people come here illegally and state that they don't want to assimilate, they demand that their children go to schools being taught in Spanish, they want Spanish language at the hospitals and at the social services centers and everything else.
00:26:03.000 This is intolerable!
00:26:04.000 You know, we are a nation of immigrants.
00:26:07.000 There's no doubt about that.
00:26:08.000 But we're all legal immigrants, or we're supposed to be.
00:26:12.000 My people came across the sea.
00:26:14.000 Yours probably did as well.
00:26:16.000 And that's the way it is in America.
00:26:19.000 Our nation is probably the leader of the world today in still allowing legal immigration into our country.
00:26:26.000 But it's got to be controlled.
00:26:28.000 If it's not controlled, Then pretty soon we're going to lose our country, and certainly we don't want that to happen.
00:26:33.000 Well, clearly they want a Pan-American Union, the FTAA, and this is how they're going to get it.
00:26:40.000 I mean, the elites want this.
00:26:42.000 Cargill, the big meatpacking operation, one of the biggest in the country, is telling their people, their illegal alien employees, to take off Monday, to go out and protest.
00:26:50.000 They support them!
00:26:51.000 Yeah, well, these are the people like the improvalence.
00:26:54.000 They want low-wage employees.
00:27:00.000 The situation is such that the Constitution of the United States says, very bluntly, that the United States government has a responsibility to protect the states from invasion.
00:27:13.000 And it's very clear.
00:27:15.000 And it's not a military invasion.
00:27:16.000 It doesn't say military.
00:27:18.000 It says invasion.
00:27:19.000 And if 11 to 20 million illegal immigrants in our country isn't an invasion, I don't know what it is.
00:27:26.000 So the Constitution is being ignored in that regard, And it's also being ignored in many, many things that they're doing that they have no authorization for in the Constitution.
00:27:35.000 For instance, foreign aid and aid to education and housing and welfare and medicine and so forth.
00:27:41.000 Not in the Constitution.
00:27:42.000 Not allowed.
00:27:43.000 And it never should have been.
00:27:44.000 You can get into the Federal Reserve.
00:27:46.000 That's not allowed.
00:27:47.000 You can get into the refusal to declare war.
00:27:51.000 Congress alone can get us into war.
00:27:53.000 We didn't have that in Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, and now this new War in Iraq.
00:28:00.000 The Constitution is being violated.
00:28:02.000 They're not doing what they're supposed to do, and they're doing plenty of things that they're not authorized to do.
00:28:08.000 Mr. McMahon is president of the John Birch Society.
00:28:10.000 Bush has said he's above the law.
00:28:12.000 He has this doctrine on torture, on war-making, on signing bills that haven't even passed, a $2 billion bill a few months ago, on spying.
00:28:21.000 I mean, he's openly declaring the power of a dictator.
00:28:26.000 Well, that's true.
00:28:27.000 And it goes back, you know, it goes back to a fellow named Edward Mandel House, the guru who was the director of the Wilson administration and the founder of the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:28:38.000 In his own book he said he was working for socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx, and he also said in that book that he wanted to see the president become an imperial power.
00:28:49.000 One that doesn't have any restrictions on him.
00:28:51.000 And what you've pointed out is exactly so.
00:28:54.000 The President of the United States now feels that he's above the law.
00:28:57.000 He can do whatever he pleases.
00:29:00.000 And Congress is allowing it.
00:29:01.000 The courts are allowing it.
00:29:03.000 And the American people are allowing it.
00:29:04.000 And if they don't stop it, we're going to end up in a tyranny.
00:29:08.000 And he claims he's doing all of this to keep us safe from terrorism, but the borders are wide open, the government's clearly involved funding terrorist groups.
00:29:16.000 Every step of the way, Bush, of course, is just a puppet of the globalists, but he's systematically butchering the country's sovereignty.
00:29:24.000 Well, you know, imagine how many years after 9-1-1 and we still have wide open borders.
00:29:30.000 I mean, this is just absolutely absurd, except that it plays into the hands Of a conspiracy that is trying to establish world government and to bring our, drag our nation into it.
00:29:40.000 It's got to be stopped!
00:29:42.000 I agree.
00:29:43.000 A long segment coming up.
00:29:44.000 I'll talk about a host of other issues and I want to hear about some of the solutions that you think are needed in this country, John McManus.
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00:33:16.000 Fighting the Globalist at point-blank range.
00:33:20.000 John F. McManus is my guest for the rest of the hour.
00:33:23.000 He'll be speaking tomorrow night at the Holiday Inn.
00:33:25.000 We'll give you the address and time, and hope that you can join him for a talk that he's been giving that I hear is powerful, an overview of our world.
00:33:35.000 John at McManus, what do you think the most important issues are right now today?
00:33:38.000 I'll throw out a few.
00:33:40.000 Everybody got upset about the UAE and Dubai Ports world trying to buy the British ports.
00:33:47.000 That's right, 21 of them are already owned by the Brits.
00:33:50.000 And then they didn't get upset, though, about the Communist Chinese taking over the Panama Canal, Long Beach.
00:33:56.000 They didn't get upset about issues, of course, that you exposed about how they're now going to run the nuclear scanning equipment in the Bahamas.
00:34:03.000 I mean, systematically, it's not just the illegal aliens.
00:34:08.000 It's not just getting rid of our borders.
00:34:09.000 It's not just Spanish companies taking over and setting up toll roads.
00:34:13.000 At every level, the globalists are taking over.
00:34:15.000 Can you give us your take on that and cover any issues you think are important?
00:34:18.000 Well, first of all, the illegal immigration thing is really, it's finally resonating with most of the American people.
00:34:26.000 I'm told 92% are people who want the borders closed and want the illegal immigration to stop.
00:34:32.000 That's right, it was 87% last year, now it's up in the 90s.
00:34:35.000 Yeah, and that's good.
00:34:37.000 I believe this Dubai Ports thing was a diversion to get people's minds off it, to get people's minds off the immigration thing, and it did for a time.
00:34:46.000 You know, we've got ports that are practically dominated by the Communist Chinese.
00:34:51.000 Why should we get upset about a few that are going to be administered or directed by Dubai?
00:34:58.000 Well, you know, I would prefer that they're all in U.S.
00:35:02.000 hands.
00:35:03.000 No doubt about that.
00:35:04.000 But what are the issues today?
00:35:07.000 Absolutely, the United Nations has to be the key issue.
00:35:11.000 Alex, you're probably aware of the Security and Prosperity Partnership?
00:35:16.000 Yes.
00:35:17.000 Alright, this came out of the Council on Foreign Relations, and it's a publication that they had called, Building a North American Community.
00:35:25.000 And Fox of Mexico, and Bush of our country, and Premier Martin of Canada, who's now been replaced by a guy named Harper, they met in March of 2005, and they adopted this as their program.
00:35:37.000 And the way they treat the border problem is to abolish the borders.
00:35:42.000 I kid you not.
00:35:43.000 This is what they are suggesting.
00:35:45.000 That came out about a year ago, even when Dobbs said this is global government and an American Union.
00:35:54.000 He said it was mind-boggling, and I don't think it's mind-boggling if you understand the conspiracy and what they're trying to accomplish.
00:36:01.000 This came about because the John Birch Society was so effective in blocking the FTAA That President Bush never brought it to Congress, as he promised for many years he would do in March of 2005.
00:36:14.000 So, what they're going to do is implement this FTAA, which is the merger of 34 nations in the Western Hemisphere.
00:36:21.000 They're doing it through regulatory moves.
00:36:23.000 Well, they're doing it piecemeal, and one of the things they're doing here is this SPP.
00:36:27.000 And what they intend here is to cease having three countries, Canada, the U.S., and Mexico, and call it one entity here, the North American Community.
00:36:38.000 And Lou Dobbs was very upset about this.
00:36:40.000 Good, I'm glad.
00:36:41.000 I'm glad somebody in the mass media finally got a hold of these ideas that are going on so that the American people can be apprised of it and start to block them.
00:36:51.000 Mr. McManus, I want to digress.
00:36:52.000 President of the John Birch Society for a second and go back because I don't want to just move past this quickly.
00:36:56.000 This is central.
00:36:57.000 To show the power of the 2600 member Council on Foreign Relations founded by the British in 1922 in New York City at Pratt House an offshoot of the Royal Institute of International Affairs.
00:37:09.000 They write up this document, and then within two months, Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. were trying to implement, word by word, as law, their own document, as they do on so many other issues.
00:37:21.000 It shows the power of the CFR.
00:37:23.000 So please continue with this American Union.
00:37:27.000 That's just how the EU started as a, quote, economic bloc.
00:37:30.000 And then I want to get into the power of the CFR.
00:37:33.000 Okay, well, I've got to bring you up to date a little bit.
00:37:37.000 There are 4,200 members of the Council on Foreign Relations today, and 500 of them in the U.S.
00:37:42.000 government.
00:37:43.000 They've grown by over 1,800 in just the last two years?
00:37:46.000 No, no, I think your figures go back quite a few years.
00:37:49.000 I wrote a little book called The Insiders, and it's the CFR trilateral domination of the last five administrations, and we published the entire membership list of the Council on Foreign Relations as an appendix.
00:38:03.000 And the entire membership of the Trilateral Commission.
00:38:06.000 Anybody who's interested in that can contact the John Birch Society on the internet, jbs.org, or you can call our 800 number, 1-800-JBS-USA1.
00:38:18.000 So they're lying on their website?
00:38:19.000 I mean, a few months ago they said 2,600 members, they've actually expanded?
00:38:24.000 They have 4,274 members.
00:38:26.000 I got that figure out of their annual report.
00:38:28.000 In fact, I occasionally get down to New York City, and anybody who's in New York City can go to the Council on Foreign Relations headquarters and walk in and ask for an annual report, and they'll give it to you.
00:38:38.000 Now, I got one of those about four years ago.
00:38:40.000 In fact, I'll even mail you one.
00:38:41.000 Well, no, I got it.
00:38:43.000 I've got them going all the way back into the 60s, and it's quite a thing to be able to look and see the growth of this.
00:38:48.000 Well, tell people who the CFR are, because for those that don't know, we're actually... Well, the Council on Foreign Relations, it was begun when the United States Senate said no to the League of Nations.
00:38:58.000 And the man who was behind it was the man who was President Wilson's top aide, his advisor, his guru, a man named Edward Mandel House.
00:39:08.000 And when they were in Paris, where House and his young lieutenants, and they were working on the Versailles Treaty, when they got the word that the U.S.
00:39:14.000 Senate said no to the League of Nations, that was 1919.
00:39:19.000 So they got together with British counterparts.
00:39:22.000 And the two groups formed organizations for their respective countries.
00:39:25.000 The British formed the Royal Institute for International Affairs.
00:39:29.000 The Americans formed the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:39:32.000 Now that was House and his young lieutenants, John Foster Dulles, Alan Dulles, Sumner Wells, Walter Lippmann, Christian Herder, and so forth.
00:39:41.000 Two of those men that I just named eventually became Secretaries of State.
00:39:45.000 CIA.
00:39:46.000 Head of the CIA, and so forth.
00:39:48.000 Now, the Council on Foreign Relations, right from day one, promoting the notion of world government, scrapped the Declaration of Independence, scrapped the Constitution, bring about an imperial presidency.
00:40:00.000 And they began to take over the State Department in the late 30s with the stimulus of Franklin Roosevelt.
00:40:08.000 Every Secretary of State since 1949 When Dean Acheson was the Secretary of State, has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:40:18.000 That's an incredible statement.
00:40:19.000 Now, they have the heads of banking, industry, media, government, and they all work in concert.
00:40:26.000 Right, in the academic world, don't leave that out.
00:40:28.000 There's almost 800 professors or college administrators.
00:40:32.000 You send your child off to college to get an American education, and no, he doesn't.
00:40:36.000 He gets this international Globalism and so forth.
00:40:39.000 Now, 20 years ago, you guys at the John Birch Society would talk about global government out of their own documents, and you're called conspiracy theories over a decade ago.
00:40:48.000 I'm called that.
00:40:49.000 While they're openly calling for it, now they're not even denying it.
00:40:52.000 Well, what they're denying is what the goal really is, so it's still a conspiracy.
00:40:57.000 Conspiracy, secret plot among more than one person for an evil purpose.
00:41:01.000 Now, you can come around and you can say, yes, I'm a globalist, and I think that the world ought to be under one single government, and so forth.
00:41:08.000 And, you know, you're open about it and so forth, but you're not telling what the real goal is.
00:41:12.000 The real goal is, you are going to be the leader in a tyranny, and you're going to suppress the freedom of everybody.
00:41:17.000 What will life be like under the one world government, which they've already got a lot of it in place, if they succeed?
00:41:23.000 Just like it's in China.
00:41:25.000 Alright?
00:41:26.000 Tyranny.
00:41:27.000 Absolute tyranny.
00:41:29.000 Freedom of speech is denied over there.
00:41:31.000 They're suppressing publications.
00:41:34.000 Freedom of life is denied.
00:41:36.000 Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of all the freedoms that we Americans take for granted.
00:41:43.000 And you know, we didn't get these from government.
00:41:45.000 The philosophy of the American system is in the Declaration of Independence.
00:41:48.000 Very simple.
00:41:50.000 Men are endowed by their Creator with rights, and to secure these rights, governments are instituted.
00:41:56.000 Everything's in its proper order here.
00:41:57.000 And when they become destructive of those aims, it is our right and duty to abolish the forms that we are accustomed to and replace them.
00:42:04.000 Well, we don't have to abolish the form.
00:42:05.000 It's still there.
00:42:06.000 What we've got to do is get back to it.
00:42:08.000 We've got to have American people... But I'm saying the Declaration of Independence clearly says that if a government becomes destructive... That's right.
00:42:12.000 ...we can abolish it and repair it.
00:42:15.000 That's right, and that's why they separated from England.
00:42:18.000 And so they started this system here, and we still have this system.
00:42:20.000 If we got back to the Constitution, the government of the United States would be 20% its size and 20% its cost.
00:42:26.000 Now, John F. McManus, president of the John Birch Society, you're going to be speaking tomorrow night at the Holiday Inn.
00:42:31.000 Hey, I'm speaking tonight in Waco, too.
00:42:34.000 Oh, tell us about that.
00:42:35.000 I'm speaking at the Hilton in Waco, and I think it's at 7 o'clock.
00:42:40.000 I think people can find that pretty easily in Waco.
00:42:43.000 And they can get tickets there at the door?
00:42:45.000 Yeah, tickets at the door.
00:42:47.000 My companion here just raised up his fingers.
00:42:49.000 He said it's at 8 o'clock.
00:42:51.000 So it's not at 7 o'clock.
00:42:52.000 But I'll be giving this talk.
00:42:53.000 Now what I do in this talk is first thing I show is a 32 minute video that we just produced.
00:42:58.000 Which is about the roots of our country.
00:43:00.000 The fact that we're a republic and not a democracy.
00:43:03.000 Get into the economic sphere and show that monopoly capitalism versus free enterprise capitalism is the real thrust here.
00:43:12.000 How did our country come to be?
00:43:13.000 And what did our founding fathers think about it?
00:43:15.000 And what's the importance of morality?
00:43:17.000 That's a 30-minute video.
00:43:19.000 We show that and then I come back and I talk about, okay, it's a conspiracy that's doing this to us and taking away from us our heritage.
00:43:27.000 Who are they?
00:43:28.000 Where do they come from?
00:43:29.000 What is the continuity?
00:43:30.000 And I start 200 years ago and show through the Illuminati and the Carbonari in Italy and Marx and House and Wilson and Roosevelt and so forth right up till today, the goal that they have and always have had is world government to destroy individual nations.
00:43:47.000 Now, Mr. McManus, I've got a few other key questions here for you that I'd be remiss if I didn't bring them up because we have a lot of listeners that have this question.
00:43:55.000 We've gotten already a lot of calls and people are wanting to call them.
00:43:58.000 We're not going to take any calls, but I want to talk about the future of the John Birch Society later in the last segment that's coming up.
00:44:04.000 I want to get into ideas that you have for solutions, but first off, I want you to understand that I have a Big Ten approach.
00:44:12.000 I promote everybody.
00:44:14.000 I believe in everybody that's fighting the New World Order.
00:44:17.000 Even if we don't all totally agree on how to do that, how to implement it, I think the John Birch Society has been invaluable.
00:44:26.000 In setting bushfires in the minds of men in the early days, and so much of the fight against the globalists we see today that's huge, tens of millions of people, is in part thanks to the John Birch Society.
00:44:38.000 But we've heard that there's been some shake-ups at the JBS and maybe a new direction, a more aggressive direction coming.
00:44:45.000 Can you tell the listeners about some of the changes that have happened at the JBS?
00:44:49.000 Well, very quickly, our CEO was let loose back in October.
00:44:55.000 I was reinserted as president.
00:44:57.000 I had been downgraded for a while.
00:44:59.000 We've got a new CEO, Art Thompson.
00:45:02.000 We've hired something that we've never done before.
00:45:04.000 We've hired a public affairs guy.
00:45:06.000 We've hired a marketing manager.
00:45:09.000 And we're really determined to put the John Birch Society back on the map again.
00:45:14.000 And now you're out on the road?
00:45:16.000 I mean, that's always been the complaint, is this isn't the old JBS that's aggressive, that's traveling the country, that's fighting legislation?
00:45:22.000 I mean, you always were.
00:45:24.000 I wouldn't say you guys were dormant, you just weren't as aggressive as we'd seen you in the past.
00:45:31.000 We had developed the opposite of a Big Tent approach.
00:45:35.000 And I'm glad to hear you say that you have the Big Tent approach.
00:45:39.000 The John Birch Society is going to have the big tent approach now.
00:45:42.000 We've got an umbrella and we're going to make it a lot bigger and get a lot more people under the umbrella.
00:45:47.000 Well, I'll tell you, sir, if I see those changes and I do see them developing, I'd like to get involved and support you guys.
00:45:53.000 Now let me bring up my second point and then we can move on.
00:45:58.000 I met William F. Jasper in 1999 during Urban Warrior in Oakland, California, and I'd seen articles in your magazine, your great magazine, that I agree with 98% of, saying, oh, it's a conspiracy theory, there are no black helicopters, when I had gotten the Associated Press to write about urban warfare in Texas, I'd interviewed police chiefs that had thrown them out, attempted bribery, blowing up things, terrorizing people, so I talked to
00:46:23.000 Jasper, and then a month later I saw the AP article printed in your publication, so I guess he really didn't know, and so when he found out it was true, you guys did reverse course, so I thought, well they're good guys, because when I gave him the Associated Press news article on that hilltop, with tanks and troops below us training to put Americans in camps, it was then in your publication.
00:46:42.000 So I had a good feeling for you guys on that, and then I'm not attacking Jasper, but I asked him to come on to respond to it.
00:46:48.000 Davon Kleist never worked for me.
00:46:51.000 Davon Kleist, I I didn't send him to Oregon during the whole thing with the water rights.
00:47:00.000 I just want you to know that that was incorrect.
00:47:03.000 And then on the whole 9-11 thing that Jasper put out, I really think was kind of a straw man.
00:47:08.000 So number one, are you guys going to start looking at 9-11 and start looking at some of the questions there?
00:47:15.000 I mean, is that going to be part of the change of direction?
00:47:17.000 Well, we've been looking at it all along.
00:47:20.000 And if we can document and prove some things that a lot of people are saying are actual, and if they're in fact provable, they haven't proven them to us.
00:47:29.000 We know that there are a lot of unanswered questions about 9-1-1.
00:47:33.000 And we're looking into it all the time.
00:47:35.000 We have some people that will spend more time on that.
00:47:38.000 If we come to a position that substantially agrees with some of the claims that are being made, then you'll see it.
00:47:45.000 But we're very careful, very cautious.
00:47:47.000 We haven't been persuaded completely on this.
00:47:49.000 We know that there are a lot of unanswered questions.
00:47:52.000 One of the big questions, of course, is Building 7.
00:47:54.000 What happened to that?
00:47:56.000 There's no way that that was impacted by any airplanes.
00:48:00.000 Yes, there's a lot of unanswered questions.
00:48:02.000 We will revisit the subject.
00:48:05.000 Well, great, because I understand if you guys didn't come out and say it's an inside job because you're studying it.
00:48:13.000 I mean, you guys did come out and expose Oklahoma City with Quentin's fingerprints all over it, and you were trailblazers on that, and I appreciate it.
00:48:20.000 My whole point is that I'm here laying down, being nice, never attacked you guys back, when I would characterize the last 9-11 story about myself and others I'm not trying to be nasty here, it just freaked out a lot of our listeners who are big supporters of you guys, and I think that goes a long way towards more trust with folks.
00:48:40.000 Would you say that the hit pieces might have been fostered by previous management, or what's going on?
00:48:46.000 Well, that's a possibility, yes.
00:48:49.000 We're still finding out some things about previous leadership here that we're stunned by it.
00:48:55.000 We were being misled ourselves, so we're going to be a little more careful about that.
00:48:59.000 Now we have a new CEO named Art Thompson, who's a long-time friend of mine and a long-time veteran in the Birch Society, and it's he and I and a couple of other people have decided, okay, We're going to have the big tent now.
00:49:12.000 We're going to revisit some subjects.
00:49:14.000 We're going to get back into trying to regain the enthusiasm of some people that may have been a little bit dissuaded by the Birch Society becoming insular.
00:49:26.000 We're not going to do that.
00:49:27.000 Well, exactly, sir, because I just want to work with you guys.
00:49:29.000 I want to see you grow.
00:49:30.000 I want to see you reclaim the mantle of the leaders against the New World Order and what's happening.
00:49:36.000 And I think there's been a lot of painful wounds that I haven't fostered.
00:49:39.000 Some others have been hopping mad about it.
00:49:42.000 And I saw it as destructive to attack you guys, so I just let it go.
00:49:47.000 But it would be nice later if you guys do do the research to maybe do a Building 7 issue.
00:49:52.000 And maybe we can all have a mea copa here and get on the same page.
00:49:58.000 Okay, well that's very good of you.
00:49:59.000 I appreciate that.
00:50:00.000 And yes, there will be changes.
00:50:03.000 People will notice changes in the Birch Society.
00:50:06.000 They'll notice some changes in the New American Magazine, which is our publication.
00:50:10.000 And certainly they're going to notice some changes in the videos that we're putting out.
00:50:14.000 We're not going to put out talking heads anymore.
00:50:16.000 It's going to be some really impressive stuff.
00:50:19.000 Well, I think you're talking head videos.
00:50:20.000 You know, I've played many of them here on the local cable system over a decade ago.
00:50:24.000 Talks you've given that are excellent.
00:50:25.000 So, I mean, I think those are good, but certainly, you know... Well, we've got to reach a wider audience, and you can't reach them with talking heads.
00:50:32.000 A lot of the people, you know, you've got to stimulate them somehow.
00:50:34.000 I make films that aren't talking heads.
00:50:34.000 No, I agree, sir.
00:50:37.000 I'm just saying I think your past work can't be marked down.
00:50:40.000 Well, thank you for that.
00:50:42.000 Well, I think the information is excellent.
00:50:43.000 Stay there.
00:50:44.000 I want to talk about solutions in our final segment with John F. McManus.
00:50:48.000 And I would have been remiss if I hadn't brought up those other points.
00:50:50.000 And I'm really encouraged by your response, sir.
00:50:54.000 So I commend you.
00:50:55.000 I know you can't tell us too much of what went on behind the scenes, but I think you gave us a pretty clear picture.
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00:55:35.000 John F. McManus, President of the John Birch Society.
00:55:37.000 This has been a really great interview.
00:55:39.000 The last four minutes we've got together.
00:55:41.000 Would you like to plug any websites or give us any solutions or ideas you have?
00:55:44.000 And of course, one final question.
00:55:46.000 Do you think we can win this fight, sir?
00:55:48.000 Have we at least slowed down their plan for global empire?
00:55:52.000 Yes, and the tactic that we recommend here is we take our country back through the House of Representatives.
00:55:58.000 The presidency, both political parties, locked up.
00:56:02.000 Council on Foreign Relations, and that's part of my speech, I go through and show Council on Foreign Relations candidates from both political parties from the fifties right up through delay.
00:56:11.000 Alright, so why the House of Representatives?
00:56:14.000 Because the House, the Constitution says all bills for raising revenue shall begin in the House.
00:56:20.000 And if the House will not initiate a bill to fund the UN, education, foreign aid, or anything else, there's nothing the Senate, the President, the Supreme Court, or anybody else can do about it.
00:56:31.000 We take our country back through the House of Representatives, then the Senate, then the Presidency down the road.
00:56:37.000 Now, can it be done?
00:56:39.000 In 1997, there was a vote in the House of Representatives to get us out of the UN.
00:56:43.000 Fifty-four voted for it.
00:56:45.000 Two years later, 74.
00:56:47.000 Two years later, 83.
00:56:48.000 Are we gaining on the rascals?
00:56:51.000 Yes, indeed we are.
00:56:53.000 And so, what we have to do is more of what we're doing.
00:56:56.000 Waking the town, telling the people, organizing at the local level.
00:57:00.000 I would love to see John Burt Society chapters in communities across the country.
00:57:05.000 And it's happening.
00:57:06.000 There are more people now looking at what the John Burt Society is doing.
00:57:09.000 They're getting our literature.
00:57:12.000 I gave a speech on C-SPAN just a week ago.
00:57:15.000 And the entire hour-long speech on the subject of immigration, illegal immigration, and C-SPAN covered it, broadcast it nationwide, and we got a tremendous surge of interest on the Internet.
00:57:30.000 So we're looking forward to more of that.
00:57:33.000 And I'm glad to be on your show here.
00:57:35.000 I've said to myself over the years, maybe we ought to try to develop a relationship with Alex Jones.
00:57:42.000 I'm very pleased with the relationship that we've just begun, and I'm looking forward to having it continue.
00:57:47.000 Well, we really appreciate your fine work over the decades, your 42 years, 43 years with the John Birch Society.
00:57:47.000 Yes, sir.
00:57:54.000 Why don't you give us those websites?
00:57:56.000 JBS.org.
00:57:58.000 That's pretty easy to remember.
00:58:00.000 Or phone number 1-800-JBSUSA1.
00:58:06.000 Possibly the thing that you'd want most to start off with is a little book I wrote called The Insiders, and I'm going to send you a copy of it, Alex.
00:58:13.000 And it contains up-to-date information about the Council on Foreign Relations.
00:58:17.000 Fantastic.
00:58:18.000 Well, I'm glad to hear you guys are back on track and have changed directions to the Big Ten approach.
00:58:24.000 We need to know who the enemy is and believe that we can defeat them.
00:58:27.000 And I know we can.
00:58:28.000 Besides, John, we don't have a choice, do we?
00:58:30.000 No, we don't have a choice.
00:58:32.000 The choice is unthinkable.
00:58:34.000 OK, you're speaking tonight in Waco.
00:58:36.000 Tonight in Waco at the Hilton.
00:58:37.000 Tomorrow night, you just said where.
00:58:39.000 I forgot.
00:58:40.000 We'll be back.
00:58:41.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.
00:58:45.000 Big Brother.
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00:58:59.000 Government cover-ups.
00:59:01.000 You want answers?
00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.
00:59:04.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:14.000 Alright, finishing up with the president of the John Birch Society, who spent a lot of time with us today.
00:59:19.000 We're thankful for that, John F. McManus.
00:59:21.000 Tomorrow night, he'll be here in Austin, Texas, giving a speech.
00:59:26.000 The holiday in Northwest 183 in Mopac at 7.30 p.m.
00:59:32.000 And that is going to be just fantastic.
00:59:35.000 And he's giving another speech tonight in Waco, and that's at 8 o'clock tonight, I believe you said at the Hilton, sir?
00:59:43.000 Correct.
00:59:44.000 And we've just got a few minutes left here in this segment.
00:59:46.000 Sorry we cut you off short.
00:59:47.000 They're up against that break.
00:59:49.000 Any other closing comments you'd like to make?
00:59:51.000 Well, it's a great country and we want to preserve it.
00:59:54.000 We want the best for ourselves and our children and our generations yet to come.
00:59:59.000 The United States is unique Started on a foundation of belief in God who gave us our rights.
01:00:06.000 Government's purpose is to be negative, to limit the government itself and to keep the people free.
01:00:11.000 And that's all.
01:00:12.000 That's what we want.
01:00:13.000 That's the positive side.
01:00:14.000 The negative side is we have to fight against the conspiracy.
01:00:18.000 So anybody who contacts the John Birch Society, jbs.org or call us 1-800-JBS-USA1.
01:00:27.000 Free information for anybody.
01:00:29.000 We're glad to hear from anybody.
01:00:31.000 So contact us and take a look at what the John Birch Society is all about.
01:00:35.000 Thank you very much.
01:00:36.000 You bet, sir.
01:00:37.000 Just in a final closing here, is it exciting to you?
01:00:41.000 I mean, I'm seeing record amounts of people in government, out of government, that would never listen to us before.
01:00:46.000 I mean, now it's not a hard sell to wake people up to this whole world government.
01:00:50.000 That's right.
01:00:52.000 And as Robert Welsh, the founder of the John Birch Society, said many years ago, there would be a crisis that would come And when the crisis came, we had to be ready to be able to mobilize all of the people who are awakened so that we can really turn things around.
01:01:05.000 And maybe we're here.
01:01:07.000 Maybe we're at that crisis point.
01:01:09.000 But anyhow, we're ready in the Birch Society, and glad to know we have some allies.
01:01:14.000 Well, that's the good news, is that always happens in history.
01:01:17.000 Now that they're getting down to the final phase of world government, people are waking up, and they're scared.
01:01:23.000 I mean, I think they're scared from our sources inside Bilderberg and the CFR.
01:01:27.000 They seem to realize now that they could lose.
01:01:30.000 Yes, yes.
01:01:31.000 There's a lot of people who know something's wrong, and now we've got to get the moral instinct in them to say, OK, I see something's wrong.
01:01:38.000 I've got to do something to make it right.
01:01:39.000 All right.
01:01:40.000 Well, John F. McManus speaking tonight in Waco at 8 o'clock at the Hilton, and tomorrow night at 7.30 at the Holiday Inn Northwest, $10 admission.
01:01:48.000 We'll see you there.
01:01:49.000 Thanks for joining us.
01:01:50.000 Thanks very much.
01:01:51.000 Take care.
01:01:51.000 Bye-bye.
01:01:53.000 Folks, listen, one of my dear friends called in earlier, who also was attacked by the previous JBS administration over 9-11, and wanted to come on and have a big fracas basically with McManus.
01:02:07.000 You heard McManus, and I've talked to people internally, that the old administration may have been trying to do some bad things, clearly, and to cover up things, and to not let the truth out.
01:02:20.000 That is now changing.
01:02:21.000 You heard him.
01:02:22.000 They're going to be probably getting into Building 7.
01:02:24.000 Talking about 9-11 being an inside job.
01:02:26.000 I mean, their members all believe that.
01:02:28.000 Predominantly that I've talked to.
01:02:30.000 And so there's a change.
01:02:31.000 He and others from the old guard have been pushed back.
01:02:34.000 The new crowd did some things I'm not even going to get into.
01:02:36.000 Pretty bad stuff.
01:02:38.000 And now they've been kicked back out.
01:02:39.000 Now, I've never been a member of the JBS, but I know that some of the first books I read, some of the things that helped wake me up, some of the things that influenced my father back in the 60s were the JBS.
01:02:48.000 Some of the things that influenced one of my uncles.
01:02:50.000 And one of my aunts.
01:02:51.000 And they've done a lot of good work.
01:02:53.000 So, because I saw some weird things going on a few years ago and I was wrongfully attacked by the JBS Magazine, I chose to not give it attention.
01:03:03.000 Which is what I normally do when I'm attacked.
01:03:05.000 People are like, why don't you respond to this attack?
01:03:07.000 Why don't you respond to that attack?
01:03:08.000 People don't tune in here to hear about attacks.
01:03:12.000 Because it's not about Alex Jones.
01:03:14.000 When we get a chance to reverse that and wake up the leadership of the JBS and get them on board, that's an exciting thing.
01:03:20.000 Wouldn't you rather have this powerful, ancient, as politics goes, organization on our side and fighting the New World Order and back on track?
01:03:29.000 Would you rather just continue a huge chicken fight, flapping wings and squawking?
01:03:35.000 And if people don't think I attacked them enough, c'est la vie.
01:03:37.000 You want to attack me?
01:03:38.000 Go ahead, I won't respond.
01:03:40.000 Just get my name right.
01:03:41.000 It's Alex Jones.
01:03:42.000 My websites are Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
01:03:45.000 All right, we'll be right back with Michael Rivero of whatreallyhappened.com.
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01:06:59.000 Well, he joins us once a month...
01:07:10.000 He's an amazing researcher.
01:07:11.000 One of the first people on the web, back in its beginnings of becoming powerful.
01:07:21.000 Michael Rivero exposed the Vince Foster murder, Bill Clinton, all that corruption.
01:07:26.000 And he's just continued with 9-11, Oklahoma City, all of it.
01:07:29.000 And WhatReallyHappened.com is one of the biggest alternative news sites out there, and we're so proud of the work of Michael Rivero.
01:07:37.000 And I want to get his take on a host of issues.
01:07:40.000 The war, the upcoming attack on Iran, when he thinks that'll happen, will it happen, what's happening with Bush saying he's above the law, what's happening with Scooter Libby and Roe being called back in.
01:07:52.000 All the things that he thinks are most important and what he sees happening in the future.
01:07:56.000 If you go to Infowars.com, you can link right through to WhatReallyHappened.com.
01:08:00.000 And I hope to keep him through this hour and into the next if he's able to stay with us so we can take some calls.
01:08:05.000 Mike, it's always good to have you on.
01:08:06.000 Well, thanks for having me on, and yes, I'm going to be able to stay through into the second hour today.
01:08:11.000 Fantastic!
01:08:12.000 That way we can double up since we both crossed the wires last month and weren't able to get you on.
01:08:16.000 Michael Rivero, out of the gates, what do you think is most important right now?
01:08:21.000 And give us your take on what you think is going to happen in the next few months.
01:08:25.000 Well, I think you covered it pretty well in your opening speech there.
01:08:28.000 First and foremost, of course, it's very obvious that Bush and his associates are continuing their push for a war in Iran.
01:08:35.000 We are continuing to see the propaganda, just blatant propaganda throughout the media basically rehashing the same sort of claims that we saw in the run-up to the war in Iraq.
01:08:48.000 The claims are that Iran has this nuclear capability and of course what Iran actually has is a power station and they have the centrifuges for refining uranium to 3.5
01:09:02.000 percent purity which is what you use for reactor fuel and they're trying to make it sound like just by switching from blend to puree on these centrifuges that Iran can get up to the 90 percent purity that they need for a nuclear weapon and of course it's really not quite that simple to make that leap from reactor fuel to nuclear weapons material but of course this is the myth that is being pushed right now
01:09:29.000 And Bush is going around saying Iran is failing to meet its obligations.
01:09:34.000 But you have to go back and say, what obligations?
01:09:37.000 Because both the United States and Iran have signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
01:09:42.000 And under the terms of that treaty, all fining nations have the right To use nuclear power for power generation for electricity and they have the right to make the fuel for those reactors.
01:09:54.000 So Iran is perfectly within the letter of the law as spelled out in a treaty that the United States has signed.
01:10:01.000 So what Bush has in effect done here is just completely thrown out, arbitrarily thrown out, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to say, well, we don't think Iran should have power reactors, and we don't think they should have the means to make fuel rods for those reactors, because somewhere down the road they might want to think about maybe making a nuclear bomb.
01:10:20.000 And of course this is the same kind of thing that we were talking about going into Iraq.
01:10:24.000 They started out with they've got weapons of mass destruction.
01:10:28.000 Then they said, well, they don't really have them, but they could have them somewhere down the road.
01:10:32.000 And, of course, that's a really ridiculous argument because you can look at any nation on Earth and say, boy, they might have weapons of mass destruction at some point in the future.
01:10:41.000 Therefore, we should drop our weapons of mass destruction on them now.
01:10:45.000 Well, John Negroponte, the new head of the Stasi of, quote, all intelligence, the death squad founder who set up death squads in Iraq, and of course decades before in Latin America, He knows that the CIA's own assessment last year, their official assessment, said 10 years, if they were given the centrifuges they needed for the 90 plus percent enrichment process, it's not like making a ham sandwich.
01:11:08.000 So he says, yeah, it's true they're not going to get an A-bomb with what they've got currently, but they're going to buy an A-bomb from somebody and hit us.
01:11:18.000 Then meanwhile, so I want you to comment on that, meanwhile, Bush signed W199I, ordering the FBI and CIA and Defense Intelligence to quote, back off Al Qaeda and Hamas in this country, because it was really their provocateurs, they weren't Al Qaeda or Hamas.
01:11:34.000 And then at the same time, they told him to back off Khan Laboratories that for decades had been producing this.
01:11:40.000 Now Pakistan has a whole bunch of A-bombs.
01:11:43.000 And then Bush goes and signs a deal with India to produce as many nukes as they want.
01:11:48.000 Meanwhile, North Korea is threatening the nukes.
01:11:50.000 China is running around threatening us.
01:11:51.000 But we're supposed to ignore all that and go after Iran just because they happen to have a whole bunch of oil.
01:11:59.000 Uh, yeah, very much.
01:12:00.000 And what you were talking about, you know, with Iran buying a nuke and hit us with that, the big question is why would they be so foolish?
01:12:08.000 And this was an argument that also applied to Iraq, because everyone was going on saying, oh, they're going to send a nuclear bomb over here and hit us.
01:12:16.000 Well, the United States possesses the world's greatest nuclear deterrent force.
01:12:21.000 We have the capability to go to any nation on Earth and turn it into a solid green glass parking lot.
01:12:27.000 Now, why doesn't Russia, why doesn't China nuke us if they've got nukes?
01:12:30.000 Because it's called MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction.
01:12:33.000 The whole thing is a fraud.
01:12:35.000 Absolutely, because our parents' generation forked over $5 trillion to build all these nuclear weapons and missiles On the idea that this would prevent some other nation with nuclear weapons from attacking us.
01:12:46.000 Well, if this doesn't work, if this nuclear deterrent isn't scaring Iraq and Iran from attacking us, then we're owed a refund on all of that.
01:12:55.000 But if the deterrent really works as advertised, then Iran can have all the nuclear weapons it wants, it'll put them on parades, it'll put them in a museum, it won't dare use them on the United States.
01:13:07.000 So Iran is not a threat to the United States, Iraq was never a threat to the United States, even if they had had weapons of mass destruction.
01:13:14.000 Well, let's get down to brass tacks.
01:13:15.000 Every time Bush attacks somebody, his approval rating goes up for six months a year.
01:13:20.000 So, going into these elections, he needs to go ahead and launch the attack and try to rally the people back home.
01:13:26.000 But, that may not be enough.
01:13:30.000 There's talk of impeachment already building.
01:13:33.000 Michael Rivero, how much... I think we're in the greatest danger we've been in since September 11th.
01:13:39.000 2001 at 9 o'clock in the morning.
01:13:41.000 I think we're in the greatest danger we've been in since then of the crime cabal that controls Bush setting off an A-bomb, releasing biological weapons, blowing something up overseas.
01:13:52.000 Do you concur?
01:13:54.000 I absolutely do because Bush is cornered because of the rather unexpected development of the impeachment petitions now in three state legislatures.
01:14:04.000 This kind of caught a lot of people by surprise because under Section 603 of the rules of the House of Representatives, impeachment proceedings against the President of the United States may be initiated by a joint resolution of any one state legislature.
01:14:19.000 This is a rule that's never been used before, but it is in Jefferson's rules for the House of Representatives.
01:14:23.000 Well, it's part of the Electoral College, and that's why we have states' rights.
01:14:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:14:29.000 And so, Illinois now has a bill before their legislature calling for the impeachment of Bill Clinton.
01:14:34.000 California followed with one, not only for, I'm sorry, for George Bush.
01:14:39.000 And California followed for one, not only for George Bush, but Dick Cheney as well.
01:14:44.000 And most recently, of course, Vermont's state legislature is now looking at such a bill.
01:14:49.000 And the report is that more states are going to follow the bill.
01:14:54.000 Two?
01:14:55.000 I think Hawaii's considering it now.
01:14:58.000 I'd heard word about that.
01:14:59.000 It's not confirmed yet.
01:15:01.000 As soon as I do, I will definitely put it up on my website.
01:15:03.000 But all it's going to take is one state to pass that bill, and under the rules, the House of Representatives will have to have impeachment proceedings ahead of all other Now, obviously, because of this, it would definitely be in Bush's interest to have a new war kicked off where he could say, well, you don't pull the president down in the middle of a war.
01:15:21.000 But what you were saying before about his poll numbers going back up, I think he can only go to that well so many times, and my instincts are telling me that on this next war his numbers are going to go down even more.
01:15:33.000 Well, I actually have a graph of 9-11, Afghanistan, Iraq, and each time it doesn't go up as high.
01:15:41.000 It's going downwards.
01:15:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:15:43.000 The effectiveness of a new war is definitely on the wane.
01:15:46.000 What about a new terror attack?
01:15:48.000 Well, absolutely, but only if it was something that really convinced people.
01:15:52.000 And the problem is there are so many people who are suspicious of 9-11 already, and they know the President lied us into a war in Iraq.
01:16:00.000 And once you come to grips with that, everything the government is saying becomes automatically suspect.
01:16:07.000 And, uh, you know, everybody, you know, I even, I got my hair cut the other day, and even the girl cutting my hair, who does not know about my website or anything, was going on about Bush is a liar and, and, and, and Bush is going to do something to try and, uh, you know, uh, get his power back.
01:16:23.000 So they lost credibility?
01:16:25.000 Yeah, lost credibility.
01:16:26.000 If you've got hair cutters who are aware of what's going on, then Bush has definitely lost control of the American economy.
01:16:32.000 Well, it's like the boy who cried wolf.
01:16:34.000 Absolutely and you know he's cried wolf so many times and every time you know we see it's him inside the wolfskin.
01:16:45.000 So anyway, I agree, it is a danger.
01:16:50.000 Obviously he just used the same lies from Iraq on Iran.
01:16:53.000 What about Bush surrounding himself with more Israelis, dual citizens?
01:16:57.000 Absolutely, I mean even the Jerusalem Post was kind of crowing about this the other day, about just how thoroughly entrenched Israeli and Jewish power is inside The problem is they're becoming so arrogant about it.
01:17:12.000 They're calling attention to it.
01:17:14.000 And again, this is something else that common people, everyday people who normally don't pay attention to these things, they're picking up on it now and they're starting to talk about it.
01:17:24.000 And the really ugly thing is there is likely to be a backlash.
01:17:27.000 And it's of course going to hit all the wrong people who are going to feel it.
01:17:34.000 But we're clearly headed toward a crisis within the government, and whether it's going to be Bush starting a new terror attack, or possibly a military coup.
01:17:43.000 I know with all these generals coming forward talking about Rumsfeld being fired, that seems to be a little bit of a signal that the military are definitely fed up with what's going on.
01:17:53.000 Or even just a popular rebellion that happens as quickly as the one that we saw in Romania.
01:17:59.000 But it's obvious we cannot stay on the same path much longer.
01:18:03.000 Why are they so arrogant?
01:18:04.000 I mean, throughout history we see elites just go crazy.
01:18:08.000 Yeah, it really is.
01:18:10.000 They start to fall in love with their own public relations, I think, which is always a recipe for disaster in politics and in entertainment, I might add.
01:18:17.000 They really start believing their own myth and their own infallibility, and yet history shows that every one of these tyrants always eventually brings themselves or are brought down.
01:18:31.000 Absolutely.
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01:23:02.000 The dollar has been devalued by 44%.
01:23:04.000 Gold is up at $640+.
01:23:05.000 gold is up at 640 plus oil over $70 a barrel they're looting the economy and Bush tells us that everything is wonderful and he's going to investigate the oil companies and everything's going to be okay Okay.
01:23:24.000 Michael Rivero, talking about their delusional nature, what do you see?
01:23:27.000 I mean, you're a successful person in business in your own right.
01:23:29.000 What do you see happening with the economy?
01:23:32.000 Well, I see the economy basically is really hopelessly hooked up in debt.
01:23:38.000 In fact, you had a very interesting commercial to that very point during this last break.
01:23:44.000 Despite all the glowing promises, the reality is that the signs are that we're headed for a serious, serious upset for a couple of different reasons.
01:23:53.000 First of all, there is the matter of government debt itself.
01:23:57.000 The government is just borrowing so much money, have really gone completely out of control with borrowing to pay for the war in Iraq, borrowing just to sort of keep things propped up, they're borrowing to make the payments on previous loans.
01:24:13.000 And, uh, the debt is now so great that all of the income tax collected in the entire nation doesn't even meet the interest payments.
01:24:21.000 So, there's a real problem, uh, there.
01:24:24.000 Second of all, uh, you have, uh, the Federal Reserve, uh, just stopped publishing what's called the M3 aggregate.
01:24:33.000 Now, this is a number which basically represents the total estimated supply of money in circulation inside the United States.
01:24:41.000 And this is really a measure of inflation, because you take your total money supply versus the estimated worth of the entire economy, and that gives you the value of a dollar.
01:24:53.000 So the only reason that most people can come up with for the M3 aggregate no longer being published is that we're Preparing to go into a period of hyperinflation where the Federal Reserve is just going to try and inflate the debt away by just printing up more and more currency and just saying, here, here's the money that we owe you.
01:25:14.000 Let me try to bring that into perspective.
01:25:17.000 Up until six years ago, the Federal Reserve's inflation curve was massive, that is expanding, inflating the money supply.
01:25:28.000 Now with the new Fed chairman and the last five and a half years of Greenspan before him, they have already inflated the money more than it had been inflated since the Federal Reserve took over, what, what, 80-something years before that, now 90-plus years.
01:25:44.000 And so the new Fed chief says he's going to dwarf that, and in public statements said that he was going to increase the amount of fictional money and, of course, paper money, and then they suddenly make the numbers secret.
01:25:57.000 They're going into overdrive.
01:25:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:26:00.000 It's called a hyperinflationary spiral, and it's something that we sadly saw, for example, in Germany, just prior to the rise of Hitler.
01:26:10.000 And what happens is, of course, when you borrow a lot of money and then you just print up more money to pay that back, it looks real good in the short term, but eventually you get into a situation where you have too much money chasing too few goods and services, and that is what drives your prices right through the roof.
01:26:26.000 We're already starting to see it with the gas prices at the pump and the oil companies saying, boo-hoo, boo-hoo, it's those nasty Arabs forcing us to make billions and billions of dollars in profits.
01:26:36.000 And that's why it's important to Look at what's happening with China.
01:26:40.000 China, up until about six months ago, had pegged its currency to the dollar.
01:26:44.000 Now they've ominously gone to a basket of other currencies, including the dollar.
01:26:49.000 So we were still getting these cheap slave goods, you know, these cheap junk goods as the illusion of prosperity.
01:26:56.000 Now even that's evaporating.
01:26:58.000 Yeah, that's starting to go down.
01:26:59.000 We're seeing the price of imports really start to take off.
01:27:02.000 And one of the critical factors, and this gets back to the coming invasion of Iran, The much anticipated and talked about oil bourse will finally open its doors next week.
01:27:12.000 I guess they had some delays.
01:27:14.000 And this is a real critical issue because one of the ways the U.S.
01:27:17.000 has propped up its economy is by forcing all other countries to keep huge stores of dollars on hand as an oil currency.
01:27:26.000 You have to buy oil.
01:27:27.000 Well, you know, if you have to buy dollars to buy oil, then that increases demand for dollars and that makes them worth more.
01:27:34.000 But the Iranian oil bourse is going to be trading Iran's oil in Euros.
01:27:40.000 And so you're going to see nations that are buying oil from Iran will no longer have a need to keep dollars on hand.
01:27:46.000 And that'll be 8% to start with, a seismic shock to the global economy.
01:27:51.000 If other countries start to follow suit, as Russia and others say they will, it's going to be devastating.
01:27:56.000 Yes, it absolutely will, because the U.S.
01:27:58.000 dollar, it's a fiat currency.
01:28:00.000 There is really nothing to back it up.
01:28:03.000 The US, unfortunately, over the last 30 years, has lost most of its manufacturing base.
01:28:09.000 And even if we went back to a totally internal economy, it's going to take us a while to be able to make a lot of the things that we need to make.
01:28:19.000 So we're really in a very precarious position, and one of the motives for these wars on Iraq and Iran and Saudi Arabia appears to be to control the oil, In order to make the dollar continue to be the oil currency for the rest of the world.
01:28:36.000 Michael Rivero, stay right there.
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01:37:17.000 I'm done ranting about that.
01:37:19.000 Michael Rivera, before we get back into the news and take some calls, you want to plug your side or plug anything that's on it?
01:37:25.000 Well, just to have people come over and visit WhatReallyHappened.com, and I do of course link from my site to both of yours, InfoWars and Prison Planet, on a regular basis, and that's really all I have to plug today.
01:37:41.000 All right, my friend, what are some of the issues that are near and dear to your heart that you think are important that you want to cover after we take some calls?
01:37:47.000 Well, I want to get back into this issue of yet more evidence surfacing that Bush intentionally, and I stress the word intentionally, lied to the people of the United States of America and lied to the Congress in order to get his war in Iraq.
01:38:06.000 And, you know, we can disagree on some of the fine points on a lot of the issues such as 9-11, but I think rather than get caught up in these little differences, we just have to really say, okay, we know we got lied to and the fine details don't matter.
01:38:23.000 We need to accept this and think about its ramifications.
01:38:27.000 And one that I like to point out to people, you know, especially when they start talking about the higher taxes and all the government borrowing to pay for the war, And that is to say, you know, are we really liable for the cost of the war if it is an illegal war?
01:38:42.000 Because when Congress voted the authorization for the use of force in Iraq, they included two requirements in it.
01:38:50.000 First, the President had to prove that Iraq was in defiance of the United Nations by being in possession of banned weapons of mass destruction.
01:38:57.000 And second, that Iraq had something to do with 9-11.
01:39:01.000 Now, in his letter of transmittal to Congress of, I think it was March 18th, 2003, President Bush implied he had proof of both conditions, and said, therefore, we can proceed.
01:39:14.000 Now, in hindsight, of course, we know that Bush could not have had proof of those two assertions, because we know now that Iraq did not have any weapons of mass destruction, and... And we know with the White House and Downing Street memos that they premeditatedly lied.
01:39:30.000 Absolutely, and we know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11.
01:39:33.000 So that congressional authorization for the use of force in Iraq was never legally in effect, because it was entered into fraudulently.
01:39:42.000 That means Bush is using government property, our military, for a private little war.
01:39:48.000 Now anytime a senator or congressman gets caught using government property for their own personal use, they're required to reimburse the Treasury.
01:39:55.000 So the way I see it, and the way I think all Americans should see it, is that President Bush and his neocons owe the United States Treasury several billion dollars for the cost of this war.
01:40:05.000 Now, of course, for all the deaths that have resulted from this war under false pretenses, I think there are some civil remedies, but I think we the people are not obligated to pay these bills because the war was entered into fraudulently.
01:40:20.000 Let's take a few calls and we'll get back into that in the next hour in more detail.
01:40:23.000 It's very, very important.
01:40:25.000 Let's talk to Israel in New Jersey.
01:40:27.000 Israel, go ahead.
01:40:28.000 Yes, how are you doing, Alex?
01:40:29.000 Good.
01:40:30.000 I'm a member of the Perkins Planet TV and also I do advocate here in the Atlantic City area.
01:40:37.000 I just want to ask, there was a committee of people that got together for the 9-11 committee to help out all the people that were having problems because of the commission.
01:40:47.000 Now, Alex, I just want your take on this.
01:40:49.000 They were talking about doing it internationally and getting Nelson Mandela, To be like one of the chief sponsors and I have a problem with that because I know firsthand that he is a Phi Beta Sigma and his symbol is the Diablo which he was teaching and he's also one of the Rothschild's men, so one of their masons.
01:41:11.000 So I just want to know, I'd like to have your take on it.
01:41:14.000 Well, part of the message of my website has been all along is that Americans should stop relying on other committees and other media and other people to tell them what to think and look at the facts and decide for themselves.
01:41:27.000 So I think the proper course of action is to stop calling for more committees and more whatever and say, oh yes, we can let this panel investigate it for us.
01:41:36.000 Investigate it yourself.
01:41:37.000 You want to know who you should trust?
01:41:39.000 You should trust your own brain and your own mind and your own analytical... Well, I'll say this.
01:41:44.000 Mandela was in jail for decades and decades, that release team.
01:41:47.000 He's always been a stooge.
01:41:48.000 The left tries to make him some darling.
01:41:50.000 Winnie likes to run around burning kids' heads off, admittedly.
01:41:53.000 I mean, Nelson Mandela isn't going to save us, and so that's my comment there.
01:41:59.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:42:00.000 Go to the websites like Prison Planet and Infowars and What Really Happened.
01:42:03.000 Get the facts and figure it out for yourself.
01:42:06.000 And wake other people up.
01:42:07.000 You know you're good, so you go out and be a leader.
01:42:10.000 Well, I have done that, Alex.
01:42:11.000 I do that in Atlantic City.
01:42:13.000 I tell everyone about you.
01:42:14.000 I tell them about everything that you teach.
01:42:16.000 And like I said, I'm the guy I called before.
01:42:18.000 Because I used to be in the Lodge.
01:42:19.000 I was a Scottish White Mason.
01:42:20.000 I called you before.
01:42:21.000 And I repented and I'm a born-again minister.
01:42:24.000 And I just want one more thing, Alex.
01:42:25.000 Is it possible, maybe off the air, that you can give Tex Mars my number because he's my brother in the Lord?
01:42:31.000 Because I need to ask him a question about it.
01:42:33.000 Well, sir, you can call his office and leave your number there.
01:42:36.000 Oh, okay.
01:42:37.000 How do I get that number?
01:42:38.000 Do you have a computer?
01:42:39.000 Yes, I do.
01:42:39.000 You can go to TexMars.com, PowerOfProphecy.com, and the phone number will be right there.
01:42:44.000 Okay, thank you so much, Alex.
01:42:45.000 Thank you.
01:42:48.000 Do it for yourself, you can pop it into Google, get the website, get the number, call him.
01:42:53.000 Let's talk to, who's up next here?
01:42:57.000 Andrea in Ohio, go ahead.
01:42:58.000 Yes, love your website, love the email group.
01:43:02.000 I'm on that a lot.
01:43:04.000 I had a question to shift gears to bird flu for just a moment.
01:43:09.000 I noticed over the last couple of months that there have been a spate of bird flu films coming out.
01:43:16.000 Like this Hades factor, and now there's this new thing on ABC, May 9th.
01:43:24.000 And I'm wondering, do you think the government is behind a propaganda thing, producing all those things?
01:43:31.000 Well, let me comment on that.
01:43:32.000 Michael Rivera has actually worked in Hollywood, so he can comment on it as well.
01:43:36.000 He's written a lot about it.
01:43:37.000 Have you noticed that on 24, Threat Matrix, CSI Miami, on all these shows they torture someone every episode, they torture someone's child, it's good.
01:43:47.000 Evil's good, they plant WMDs, it's good.
01:43:50.000 And then it simultaneously mirrors the Bush administration's propaganda.
01:43:54.000 Bush admittedly, and the Congressional Budget Office and the GAO, Governmental Accounting Office, both said it was illegal, spent $1.6 billion for fake newscasts and paying off reporters, thousands of reporters.
01:44:07.000 And I have AP articles that back after 9-11, they pay $44 million a year to several script writing houses in LA who quote, write terror scripts.
01:44:16.000 We know they then even use those as war plans.
01:44:19.000 They do this over and over and over again, and it's all part of this backdrop of fear.
01:44:24.000 We're going to be hit by terrorists.
01:44:26.000 Give up all your rights.
01:44:27.000 The government's going to be your savior when the terrorists hit you.
01:44:31.000 They're drilling us like a re-education camp.
01:44:34.000 America itself is a giant brainwashing camp with Edward Bernays-type psychology to accept all of this.
01:44:40.000 Michael Rivera?
01:44:41.000 Yeah, there is a long, long history of the government covertly intervening in Hollywood to control the content of some movies.
01:44:49.000 Now, the control is not total, and I'll get into that in just a few minutes, but this relationship, if you'll call it, goes all the way back almost to the days of silent films.
01:44:59.000 Most people are not aware of this, but the main reason that Charlie Chaplin lost his citizenship and had to leave the United States was that J. Edgar Hoover had asked him to please retailer his films so that they did not show authority figures as humorous characters, and Chaplin refused.
01:45:16.000 And from that point on, Hoover said, well, I'm going to get rid of this guy, because we need movies that teach Americans to respect authority.
01:45:23.000 And, you know, there was the whole COINTELPRO thing in the 60s where people like actress Jean Seberg, her career was completely destroyed by the FBI.
01:45:33.000 By the way, Hoover would go to TV shows and everybody and threaten them, you're only going to show the FBI in a good light, even help write the scripts, a total control freak, and so we see this over and over again.
01:45:49.000 Yeah, if you look back at the James Stewart movie, The FBI Story, there's a director listed on the film, but Hoover himself was actually on the set directing the movie and saying, this is how they will behave and this is what they'll say.
01:46:01.000 And he's shown briefly from the back side as a cameo.
01:46:05.000 But yeah, he was totally in control of that film.
01:46:08.000 There's a short blurb about more of this stuff at my website, and I'll put a link to that up after the show.
01:46:13.000 But today we are seeing, you know, there's a lot of control inside Hollywood.
01:46:18.000 We're seeing, you know, Charlie Sheen, of course, spoke out about 9-11.
01:46:21.000 And now, of course, this week we're seeing the smear machine really cranked up on him.
01:46:25.000 By the way, Michael, I just want to let you know, because I have the inside knowledge, it is all pure, total baloney.
01:46:32.000 And he was told, shut up about 9-11 or else.
01:46:34.000 That's all I can say.
01:46:36.000 But I want to call attention to another show called Boston Legal.
01:46:36.000 Okay.
01:46:40.000 It's on ABC.
01:46:42.000 And they certainly are not under government control because they have an episode called Stick It, and it's still online.
01:46:50.000 The closing argument segment, if you go to the official show's website... By the way, we have that.
01:46:53.000 Guys, get that Boston Legal ready for the next hour.
01:46:56.000 Scott, do you know what I'm talking about?
01:46:58.000 Is that the one where they had the...
01:47:01.000 The woman who, they wouldn't pay the taxes, and yeah, oh I love that, I've got the transcript, yes.
01:47:07.000 Yeah, and yeah, if we can play that recording, because that was an absolutely wonderful speech, and you know, everyone, it was all over the internet, and everyone saying, this is what TV should be putting out there, because this is what we're all about.
01:47:18.000 What happens is, and I know a lot of producers, I know a lot of actors, they're able to slip a few things out, then the hammer gets dropped on them.
01:47:24.000 So when you do see something good, it's people rebelling.
01:47:27.000 And believe me, behind the scenes, I'd say the Hollywood crowd is actually the most informed about the New World Order.
01:47:32.000 They understand the false left-right paradigm.
01:47:34.000 Almost everybody I talk to, they know they're under control.
01:47:38.000 They quote, hate the old fossils that run their divisions.
01:47:43.000 I mean, Mike, you've worked in Hollywood.
01:47:45.000 Is that the same thing you're getting?
01:47:47.000 Yeah, it is.
01:47:48.000 And of course, I'm not in Hollywood itself anymore.
01:47:51.000 I actually got driven out, you know, back when I started the website about Vincent Foster.
01:47:56.000 It kind of brought my career to an abrupt end inside Hollywood.
01:47:59.000 But fortunately, filmmaking is now a global endeavor, so there are lots of other places I work.
01:48:06.000 Thank you.
01:48:07.000 Thank you for answering my question and for all the work you do with the website.
01:48:10.000 You bet, Andrea.
01:48:11.000 Thanks.
01:48:12.000 Sean in New Hampshire.
01:48:13.000 Go ahead.
01:48:16.000 Hello.
01:48:17.000 Yes, sir.
01:48:18.000 Hi there.
01:48:19.000 Thanks for having me on the show.
01:48:22.000 I've been distributing your videos and things, and I do encourage people to go out and look at the facts for 9-11.
01:48:28.000 I'm an engineer, and that's how it convinced me that this whole thing is a government scam.
01:48:33.000 If you look at the facts, you do the math, it's not difficult.
01:48:37.000 And once you realize the truth, you can't pull the curtain back over the wizard behind the green curtain.
01:48:46.000 And, people, we have to wake up to this and get the information out, because we're being taken over.
01:48:52.000 Yeah, we have people running the government that are murderers and carried out 9-11.
01:48:56.000 Michael Rivero?
01:48:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:48:59.000 There are so many things wrong with the 9-11 story.
01:49:01.000 And you know, the funny thing is, the day that it actually happened, and I was talking to my friend, and even then, people were saying, there's something funny about this.
01:49:09.000 You know, I'm not buying this official Arab story.
01:49:12.000 It's just too convenient.
01:49:13.000 And then, of course, it came out immediately thereafter that the U.S.
01:49:18.000 government had been planning a war in Afghanistan in October.
01:49:22.000 Already had the troops massed.
01:49:23.000 Already had the troops massed.
01:49:25.000 Had already told other governments as early as March of 2001 that they would be invading Afghanistan in October.
01:49:31.000 Stay there, Sean.
01:49:33.000 I want to give you some more time.
01:49:34.000 You didn't get much time to finish up.
01:49:35.000 As an engineer, I want to get your take.
01:49:39.000 You know, even the head of the John Birch Society, on with this last hour, had to say, yeah, Building 7, very suspicious.
01:49:43.000 So, you know, even those guys are going to be forced to come out.
01:49:47.000 We'll be right back with Michael Rivero, continuing in the next hour.
01:49:49.000 This is a great interview.
01:49:50.000 We thank him for joining us.
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01:52:48.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
01:53:02.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:53:10.000 We're rip-roaring and they'll send me the audio.
01:53:12.000 I'll be doing good!
01:53:16.000 We're back live here with Michael Rivero and we're talking to Sean in New Hampshire.
01:53:20.000 We did find that Boston Legal clip.
01:53:23.000 It'll be coming up at the 8 after break in the second segment of the next hour.
01:53:26.000 Rivero's still riding shotgun with us then, graciously.
01:53:29.000 Go ahead and finish up what you were saying, Sean.
01:53:32.000 Yes, I was talking about as a perspective from an engineer's point of view when I saw the video.
01:53:39.000 And of the 9-11 collapse and the explanations that were coming out, you know, things just smelled wrong.
01:53:49.000 And first of all, jet fuel can't melt steel.
01:53:51.000 Okay?
01:53:52.000 It's impossible.
01:53:54.000 That's like saying, you know, if you throw a ball up in the air, it's gonna go keep on going.
01:53:59.000 That's like saying gravity doesn't work.
01:54:02.000 Secondly, the buildings, how fast they came down.
01:54:05.000 They came down in free fall.
01:54:07.000 At the speed of a bowling ball.
01:54:09.000 Exactly, and as the speed of a bowling ball being dropped from the top of the building and a building designed to hold up millions of kilotons of steel and building and cement is going to provide resistance and it's going to slow down the fall.
01:54:26.000 And that did not happen in these buildings.
01:54:28.000 Well, one's never fallen from fire, and we can give Michael Rivero's take on that, but people say, well, there aren't engineers going public.
01:54:35.000 Kevin Ryan, who did the underwriting for Underwriter Laboratories, is now giving public speeches, been public for two years.
01:54:41.000 They fired him when he released their internal documents.
01:54:43.000 They did test Bathing it in steel, injecting oxygen in hot fires, I mean, it's just simple math, it's simple science.
01:54:53.000 Michael Rivero, you have to tell this, and great to tell yourself.
01:54:57.000 Yeah, well, essentially my fellow Granite Stater here is absolutely correct.
01:55:02.000 Jet kerosene is not going to burn hot enough to melt steel, or even to soften it.
01:55:07.000 And of course, the real giveaway is building number seven.
01:55:11.000 Which collapsed directly into its own footprint straight down.
01:55:14.000 From two tiny fires.
01:55:16.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:55:17.000 Two tiny fires.
01:55:19.000 And first of all, for a building to collapse like that, all the load-bearing members must be cut at exactly the same moment for it to hit the one side.
01:55:27.000 It's precisely, they implode the main central column, so it falls in on its own footprint.
01:55:32.000 Beautiful job!
01:55:33.000 Absolutely.
01:55:34.000 Now, at this point in time, with the exception of the World Trade Towers, with the exception of World Trade Tower 7, no steel-framed building has collapsed from a fire.
01:55:45.000 And, of course, the exemplar that is held up most often is the first interstate fire, a bank fire, in Los Angeles.
01:55:53.000 This was a steel frame building that burned right down to the frame.
01:55:57.000 But the steel frame remained standing.
01:55:59.000 So, you know, we're really at a loss to explain... What about Madrid?
01:56:03.000 They had the windows off of it.
01:56:04.000 It was a perfect flute to bring in air.
01:56:07.000 White hot, 100 plus foot flames for almost two days.
01:56:10.000 And then little steel desk didn't even melt.
01:56:13.000 Nothing collapsed.
01:56:14.000 Yeah, absolutely was the case.
01:56:16.000 I mean, if kerosene could melt metal, then anybody who'd ever had a kerosene lantern You know, I was going to see it explode, but kerosene is chosen because... Well, you just throw a kerosene lantern on an army tank and it would melt!
01:56:28.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:56:29.000 So, you know, and there are more and more indications that something was used to assist the failure of the load-bearing members.
01:56:37.000 And the most often suggested assistant is thermite, which is a material which leaves relatively few identifiable traces.
01:56:46.000 All it leaves is slags of melted iron.
01:56:49.000 And now there's a video, let me ask the engineer this, there's a video of this hot metal gushing and pouring out.
01:56:57.000 An explanation has been offered that that's aluminum or something, and that's incorrect.
01:57:02.000 Aluminum wouldn't melt it.
01:57:04.000 will look silvery in appearance.
01:57:07.000 And it turns into a powder.
01:57:08.000 That's right, and it turns into a powder.
01:57:11.000 That's what happens when you see steel being melted.
01:57:17.000 You see that color, and that can only be because there is huge temperatures locally, very locally, and that would be caused by a thermite.
01:57:27.000 All right.
01:57:27.000 Thank you.
01:57:28.000 Thank you, Sean.
01:57:29.000 We'll be back with Michael Rivero in 70 seconds.
01:57:32.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com.
01:57:38.000 Mainstream media.
01:57:38.000 Big Brother.
01:57:39.000 Government cover-ups.
01:57:45.000 Big Brother.
01:57:50.000 Mainstream media.
01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.
01:57:54.000 You want answers?
01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.
01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:08.000 Michael Rivero, who has been on the web since the mid-1990s or even earlier, exposing Vince Foster's suicide, and we're being on the radio.
01:58:20.000 1995-96, covering the information he brought forward.
01:58:23.000 A real pioneer joins us.
01:58:26.000 He's been exposing 9-11, the Iraq War, the Iran situation.
01:58:29.000 We're going to get into more detail on that coming up.
01:58:31.000 We're going to play that Boston Legal clip that he mentioned of what TV should be coming up.
01:58:35.000 And we'll continue with your phone calls, Stuart and Alex and Eddie and Tim and others.
01:58:41.000 But right now, one of my fellow broadcasters, Jack Blood, wanted to call in with a question or a comment with Michael Rivero.
01:58:47.000 Jack, you're on the air.
01:58:48.000 Hey, thanks Alex for taking my call.
01:58:50.000 I'm a big fan of both you guys, as you know.
01:58:53.000 You know, I just heard you talking about 24, and I don't know if you guys have been following it or watching it.
01:58:57.000 I do.
01:58:58.000 I'm starting to think, and I'd like to get Mike's impression of this, I'm starting to think that They have covertly been trying to warn us with this program.
01:59:06.000 As you see now, the program has evolved into the President being the terrorist, and now in the last episode, he is working with a shadowy group of bankers who are telling him what to do.
01:59:17.000 Is it possible that all along, 24 and Keeper Southerland, who I know personally is rather liberal, is it possible that All along, they have been trying to use the program to shock us and warn us.
01:59:28.000 I know it sounds absurd, but I'm starting to get this impression.
01:59:30.000 Well, let me comment on it and then get Mike Rivera's comment.
01:59:34.000 Jack, I've studied psychological warfare, as I know you have.
01:59:37.000 I've studied Edward Bernays, the father of modern PR and advertising.
01:59:41.000 And I know Hollywood is full of good people that do know the truth.
01:59:43.000 They're not liberals like you hear, folks.
01:59:45.000 They got their head screwed on straight.
01:59:47.000 They're populist.
01:59:48.000 They're anti-New World Order.
01:59:49.000 Everybody I meet.
01:59:50.000 It's everybody.
01:59:51.000 It's ridiculous.
01:59:53.000 Uh, names I can't mention here.
01:59:54.000 Uh, but I mean, and it's no secret that Mel Gibson knows all about the New World Order, so I can say that.
02:00:00.000 Uh, but that's just, you know, one of the people out there who we know knows about it.
02:00:04.000 Somebody's a little more public.
02:00:06.000 I don't know about Keeper Southerland.
02:00:07.000 I've only seen some of the episodes.
02:00:09.000 I read the synopsis of the show, you know, where the government's going to set off a nuke, they control Al-Qaeda.
02:00:15.000 I know that's going on, but there's also revelation of the method where the psychological warfare chiefs say that if they put something out first as entertainment, somehow it makes it more acceptable when it actually happens.
02:00:28.000 Michael Rivero?
02:00:29.000 Yeah, that's one aspect of it, and I want to share a little bit of insight about TV shows.
02:00:35.000 The actors that you see on the show really have very little to say about the content of the show.
02:00:41.000 They read the script.
02:00:42.000 They're given the script.
02:00:43.000 Yeah, it's the script writers and the executive producers who really call the shots on it.
02:00:48.000 So when a show does something really good, you know, we talk about James Spader in the Boston Legal Show, but it was really the writers and the executive producers of the show who said, it is time to make this statement.
02:00:59.000 And as far as 24, yes, I have noticed that they're definitely starting to go the route of, you know, the government is really behind a lot of what's going on.
02:01:07.000 I think a lot of that may be that this idea is so popular and now dominant in major polls in some cases, 80 plus percent in scientific polls, 60 something percent, 68 percent, 66 percent, excuse me, 66 percent in the last Zogby.
02:01:21.000 So they're being forced to maintain their relevance.
02:01:25.000 Michael?
02:01:26.000 Yeah, they're following the crowd rather than leading it.
02:01:29.000 I'd like to add something here though too is because there is an effect and what you said earlier Alex about them telling us what they're doing and kind of giving us the heads up as they're doing this stuff in our face.
02:01:39.000 It's very true, but also what effect does it have for the American people to see that the president is behind all the terrorism and working for a group of shadowy bankers?
02:01:49.000 I think that that is something very, very interesting.
02:01:52.000 Alex, if you'd allow me a quick shameless plug for my program that follows yours today.
02:01:57.000 I have Professor Bruce Lawrence from Duke University who has written a very extensive book that proves, as Mike has been saying all along, that Osama Bin Laden has been dead and that all of these tapes are faked, and I hope people will join us on that program today.
02:02:10.000 Yeah, that's great, Jack, and fire that number over after you're done with this guy.
02:02:14.000 Okay, thank you.
02:02:14.000 You got it.
02:02:15.000 Keep up the good work, and much love and respect to both of you.
02:02:18.000 Well, thank you, Jack.
02:02:20.000 Michael Rivero, you can sit back for three minutes and then have a couple more minutes to go take a break if you want.
02:02:26.000 If not, you can sit here with us and listen as we play the Boston legal piece that you mentioned earlier.
02:02:32.000 And then we'll come right back to you and continue with the calls.
02:02:35.000 And then we'll get more into the Iran situation and Bush lying about WMDs.
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02:05:50.000 Because there's a war on for your mind.
02:05:53.000 Yeah, a few months ago, when Boston Legal, which usually has the CPS grabbing people's children because they're evil and guns are evil, they did change Horses in the Middle of the Stream and produced this little piece.
02:06:08.000 We're going to play about five minutes of it and comment and analyze it.
02:06:11.000 We've only played this once.
02:06:11.000 It's real popular, so I should have played it again.
02:06:13.000 I'm glad that Michael Rivero brought this up at WhatReallyHappened.com and when we get back we'll talk to Stuart, Eddie, Tim and others and then let Michael get more into Iran and Bush lying to take us to war and what he thinks should happen there and just state the facts because he's a real expert on that subject.
02:06:30.000 But here is the piece where he's giving a summation to the jury about why she should be basically found not guilty.
02:06:38.000 Here it is.
02:06:40.000 When the weapons of mass destruction thing turned out not to be true, I expected the American people to rise up!
02:06:52.000 They didn't.
02:06:54.000 Then, when the Abu Ghraib torture thing surfaced, and it was revealed that our government participated in rendition, a practice where we kidnap people and turn them over to regimes who specialize in torture, I was sure then the American people would be heard from.
02:07:10.000 We stood mute.
02:07:12.000 Then came the news that we jailed thousands of so-called terrorist suspects, locked them up without the right to a trial or even the right to confront their accusers.
02:07:21.000 Certainly, we would never stand for that.
02:07:23.000 We did.
02:07:24.000 And now, it's been discovered the executive branch has been conducting massive, illegal, domestic surveillance on its own citizens.
02:07:34.000 You and me.
02:07:36.000 And I at least consoled myself that finally, finally, the American people will have had enough.
02:07:42.000 Evidently we haven't.
02:07:44.000 In fact, if the people of this country have spoken the messages, we're okay with it all.
02:07:50.000 Torture, warrantless search and seizures, illegal wire tappings, prison without a fair trial, or any trial, war on false pretenses.
02:08:03.000 We as a citizenry are apparently not offended.
02:08:06.000 There are no demonstrations on college campuses.
02:08:08.000 In fact, there's no clear indication that young people even seem to notice.
02:08:13.000 Well, Melissa Hughes noticed.
02:08:17.000 Now, you might think, instead of withholding her taxes, she could have protested the old-fashioned way.
02:08:23.000 Made a placard and demonstrated at a presidential or vice-presidential appearance.
02:08:28.000 But we've lost the right to that as well.
02:08:30.000 The Secret Service can now declare free speech zones to contain, control, and in effect, criminalize protests.
02:08:38.000 Stop for a second and try to fathom that.
02:08:42.000 At a presidential rally, parade, or appearance, If you have on a supportive t-shirt, you can be there.
02:08:50.000 If you're wearing or carrying something in protest, you can be removed.
02:08:54.000 This in the United States of America, this in the United States of America, is Melissa Hughes the only one embarrassed?
02:09:01.000 Mr. Shaw, that's a chair for witnesses only.
02:09:11.000 Really long speeches make me so tired sometimes.
02:09:14.000 Please get out of the chair.
02:09:16.000 Actually, I'm sick and tired.
02:09:17.000 Get out of the chair!
02:09:19.000 And what I'm most sick and tired of...
02:09:24.000 Is how every time somebody disagrees with how the government is running things, he or she is labeled un-American.
02:09:32.000 Evidently, it's speech time.
02:09:33.000 And speech in this country is free, you hack!
02:09:36.000 Free for me, free for you, free for Melissa Hughes to stand up to her government and say, stick it!
02:09:41.000 Objection!
02:09:42.000 I object to government abusing its power to squash the constitutional freedoms of its citizenry.
02:09:47.000 And God forbid anybody challenge it.
02:09:49.000 They're smeared as being a heretic.
02:09:51.000 Melissa Hughes is an American.
02:09:52.000 Melissa Hughes.
02:09:54.000 Last night, I went to bed with a book.
02:09:56.000 Joseph Hughes is an American.
02:09:58.000 Mr. Shaw, unless you have anything new and fresh to say, please sit down.
02:10:04.000 You've reached the decorum of my courtroom with all this hooting.
02:10:10.000 Last night, I went to bed with a book.
02:10:20.000 Not as much fun as a 29-year-old.
02:10:24.000 But the book contains a speech by Adelaide Stevenson.
02:10:27.000 The year was 1952.
02:10:29.000 He said, The tragedy of our day is the climate of fear in which we live.
02:10:34.000 And fear breeds repression.
02:10:37.000 Too often, sinister threats to the Bill of Rights, to freedom of the mind, are concealed under the patriotic cloak of anti-communism.
02:10:49.000 Today, it's the cloak of anti-terrorism.
02:10:54.000 Stevenson also remarked, it's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them.
02:11:04.000 I know we are all afraid.
02:11:11.000 But the Bill of Rights, we have to live up to that.
02:11:18.000 We simply must.
02:11:22.000 That's all Melissa Hughes was trying to say.
02:11:25.000 She was speaking for you.
02:11:28.000 i would ask you now to back to that room and speak for her we're back Michael Rivero, comments on that piece we just played?
02:11:46.000 Well, the one part, you know, it's a wonderful speech and it was all over the net and I had it on my website for quite a while.
02:11:53.000 The one part I disagree with the comment about where he says there are no protests, there are no protests on college campuses.
02:12:00.000 In point of fact, there are, and I have got a web page at my site where thousands of people are showing up, but these protests are not being reported by the mainstream media, and knowing what production schedules are like on a show like Boston Legal, it's my guess they probably were just going from the reports on the mainstream media, which basically act like there is no opposition to the government, But in point of fact, there is.
02:12:24.000 It's just not being reported.
02:12:26.000 Well, it's the thing of the tree fell in the forest and nobody heard it.
02:12:29.000 Did it make a sound?
02:12:30.000 That old cliche.
02:12:32.000 And time and time again, we'll have demonstrations and they'll just ignore it.
02:12:35.000 Now, then we see Bush's PR firm with Vicente Fox, and this is admitted.
02:12:40.000 Staging the immigration rallies for globalism, and of course misusing these downtrodden people that have been totally enslaved and hurt by NAFTA and GATT.
02:12:52.000 You know, they're out there, but notice the media gave that massive attention to balkanize the country and get us all at each other's throats.
02:12:59.000 Conversely, there have been huge anti-war protests.
02:13:02.000 I mean, I've been in one with half a million people, conservatively, in New York, and they call it 100,000.
02:13:07.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:13:09.000 The mainstream media is very much complicit in concealing from the American public just how many of their friends and neighbors are really opposed to what's going on.
02:13:17.000 And part of that is a means to try and discourage us from talking to each other anymore, because one of the great illusions the propagandists try to put out is that if you're unhappy with the government and you're opposed to the war, you're only one of a very few fringe group, and everybody around you loves President Bush and supports President Bush, And so when that message comes out, people will hear it and say, well, I better not talk about what I'm really thinking and feeling.
02:13:42.000 Well, a month ago, they had a poll.
02:13:43.000 The troops, it was 70% want to come home, said the war's bad.
02:13:46.000 Now we're told it's gone above 75.
02:13:48.000 Domestically, the official polls are Bush at 33.
02:13:51.000 He's really below that.
02:13:53.000 And again, I'm not saying Bush even runs anything.
02:13:55.000 He's a puppet.
02:13:55.000 But it shows the elite's policy is not popular.
02:13:59.000 No absolutely it's not popular and we're obviously headed to a collision between that group that calls itself the government and we the people and it's just a point of when is that collision point going to occur, and will there be anything left of our country unlooted by the time we reach that?
02:14:16.000 I'm glad you said it calls themselves that government, because if a CEO starts stealing money and raping women in his office or whatever, selling drugs, he's no longer really the CEO.
02:14:30.000 Yeah, absolutely, because we have a document called the Constitution.
02:14:37.000 This is our original contract with America, and it sets out what the government is, what it does, what it can do, what it cannot do.
02:14:47.000 And the government, the people who are in the government, are the government only as long as they operate within those guidelines and rules of the Constitution.
02:14:57.000 If they start acting outside the Constitution, then they're not functioning as the government anymore.
02:15:02.000 I agree.
02:15:03.000 Yeah, and of course the big one that's in there is you can go all the way through that Constitution from beginning to end, nowhere in there is the government authorized to lie to the people.
02:15:14.000 And the 10th Amendment forbids the government from simply assuming that they have that right.
02:15:18.000 Well, what about the leaks?
02:15:19.000 I mean, Bush leaks on plane for political aims.
02:15:22.000 Then another CIA agent allegedly leaked secret torture death camps that are totally illegal.
02:15:27.000 She'd be part of a crime if she knew about it and didn't blow the whistle.
02:15:31.000 Now they fired her.
02:15:32.000 They're talking about charging her.
02:15:34.000 Yeah, absolutely, and this is part of, you know, I mean, the silencing of whistleblowers actually got started back in the Clinton years, because we used to have laws in this country that protected whistleblowers, because we recognized they served an important function of exposing, you know, really bad crimes.
02:15:50.000 Yeah, only in Nazi Germany were you not allowed to blow the whistle on the government.
02:15:54.000 Stewart in New York, you're on the air, go ahead.
02:15:57.000 Good afternoon, Alex.
02:15:58.000 Whatever happened to Melissa Hughes in that episode, was she acquitted?
02:16:03.000 Actually, she was convicted, but was given a very small fine.
02:16:07.000 That's better than nothing, I suppose.
02:16:10.000 I may be thinking out of the box here, but you had mentioned that Bush is surrounding himself with Israelis.
02:16:16.000 Now, on Alex's website, he's pointed out many times the long, historic, and close connection between Bush's ancestors Yes.
02:16:24.000 the National Socialist Party aka the Nazis.
02:16:28.000 Now I'm thinking to myself, you know, once a Nazi, always a Nazi, and certainly some of the things that he has instituted as his law could easily fly well in Nazi Germany.
02:16:40.000 Meanwhile he's got all these Jews around him and Well, I think it's this.
02:16:44.000 I think this particular group of right-wing extreme Zionists, which are the minority of Jewish organizations, they're in control, are ruthless and controlling and fit in nicely with their plan.
02:16:55.000 I think it's birds of a feather fly together.
02:16:56.000 There have been evil Jewish leaders, evil Russians, evil Japanese leaders.
02:17:01.000 It's just these are evil people, so they go together.
02:17:03.000 Peas in a pod.
02:17:04.000 Comments, Mike?
02:17:05.000 Well, you also have to remember that the idea that the Nazis and the Jewish people were opposite poles of a spectrum is kind of a historical distortion, because Hitler was whooping on everybody.
02:17:18.000 He was invading France, he invaded Poland, the Sudetenland, he attacked Russia, he attacked Britain.
02:17:25.000 It wasn't just a targeting on the Jewish people.
02:17:30.000 We have that perspective now because of a lot of very self-centered propaganda.
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02:17:34.000 Stay there.
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02:21:48.000 Michael Rivera is our guest, joins us each month.
02:22:00.000 Honored to have him.
02:22:03.000 Finishing up what you were saying in New York, Stuart.
02:22:07.000 Finishing up what you were saying to his question, Michael.
02:22:10.000 Well, basically that, you know, viewing World War II as strictly Nazis against the Jewish people is an historical distortion.
02:22:19.000 The Nazis were basically, you know, attacking everybody.
02:22:21.000 The English, the French, the Poles, the Czechs, Austria, so forth and so on.
02:22:27.000 And so it's not quite a strange circumstance right now that you would see people very sympathetic to Israel aligning up with George Bush Whose family was very strongly financially connected with the Nazis.
02:22:38.000 Well, we also had the Labor Zionists openly supporting Hitler.
02:22:42.000 They wanted him to persecute Jews.
02:22:43.000 They openly wrote and said, big liberal Jewish professors have written about this, to drive Jews out of Europe and make them go to Israel.
02:22:50.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:22:52.000 And, you know, contrary to the popular image of Nazi Germany, there were a lot of Jewish people who served in Hitler's army, and many of them were officers, even general level officers.
02:23:03.000 And so this idea that the Jewish people were just absolutely targeted over and above everybody else is a historical distortion that has partly been used to support Israel's existence.
02:23:17.000 I think we're trying to make a final point, Stuart, though.
02:23:21.000 You were saying there was something behind it.
02:23:22.000 What do you think Moshe's doing?
02:23:24.000 My gut feeling is that maybe he's having these guys run as, shall we say, auxiliary Patsy's because certainly, thanks to research that you're doing and others, the prevailing 9-11 story is going down and going down fast, and they're going to need somebody else to blame, and who better else?
02:23:43.000 I mean, the Nazis would love to pin something like this on the Jewish people.
02:23:50.000 And I don't know, just the fact that he has them out there so open, the thing to me really smells.
02:23:57.000 Well, I mean, we know they want to use Patsy's period.
02:23:59.000 I appreciate the call.
02:24:00.000 Let's talk to Eddie in Texas.
02:24:03.000 You're on the air.
02:24:03.000 Go ahead, Eddie.
02:24:05.000 Yes, Alex, I just finished watching your Order of Death movie once again.
02:24:10.000 I noticed that you were discussing that the Blairs and the Clintons were involved.
02:24:14.000 Your phone's really muffled.
02:24:15.000 Are you on a cordless?
02:24:16.000 No, I'm not.
02:24:17.000 Can you talk right into the receiver for me?
02:24:19.000 Sure.
02:24:20.000 I was watching the Order of Death.
02:24:22.000 Yes.
02:24:22.000 In the movie, you were discussing the occult activities of The Blairs and the Clintons.
02:24:27.000 Yes.
02:24:27.000 And I was curious as to why that didn't get more coverage, considering that America is supposedly a Christian nation.
02:24:33.000 Well, I mean, it's been in major publications that every decision the Clintons, Reagan made, the Blairs make is in weird rituals with spirits, and I mean, that's part of the record.
02:24:45.000 These people are nuts.
02:24:46.000 Michael Rivero, you want to comment on that?
02:24:48.000 Well, I think basically in a nation where we talk about a Christian nation, but in reality we have freedom of religion and some people get into some very interesting views of what their religion is and in some people they will use that religion as an excuse or justification to sort of do what they want to do anyway.
02:25:08.000 And I think we see that a lot in world leaders who may not be doing things that we would agree with And somewhere, you know, they're going to lay it off and blame it on their particular god or gods that they're worshipping.
02:25:20.000 We've certainly seen George Bush do it.
02:25:21.000 He's saying God drives his foreign policy.
02:25:24.000 God told him to attack Iraq.
02:25:26.000 And this, of course, is a very dangerous sign, because once you start citing holy authority for what you're doing, anything becomes possible.
02:25:34.000 Well, he's doing this as an emotional sab for so-called Christian conservatives in this country.
02:25:41.000 Yeah, he's definitely starting to lose a lot of his support from the religious right, who realize that he's basically batting 500 on violating all 10 of the Ten Commandments.
02:25:51.000 Yeah, let's take a final call here.
02:25:52.000 Let's talk to Tim in New York.
02:25:55.000 Tim, go ahead.
02:25:57.000 Good afternoon, gentlemen.
02:25:58.000 A wonderful show.
02:25:59.000 Alex, I called to tell you we showed loose change in Rochester, New York.
02:26:03.000 We had a tremendous outpouring.
02:26:05.000 On May 16th at 7pm, the Little Theater in Rochester, New York, we are going to show Marshall Law.
02:26:13.000 Hope people will come out and support us.
02:26:15.000 When is that?
02:26:16.000 May 16th, in Rochester, New York, at the Little Theater.
02:26:21.000 What time?
02:26:22.000 Uh, 7 p.m.
02:26:24.000 Okay, fantastic!
02:26:25.000 And, uh... You want to buy a bunch of them from me in bulk and sell them there, sell DVDs?
02:26:30.000 Oh, we'll do what we can, but we're going to do this on a recurring basis.
02:26:37.000 Probably 9-11 Road to Tyranny will be the next one, but we thank people that listen and come out and support us.
02:26:44.000 Okay.
02:26:45.000 One of the interesting things you said was how people feel so alone.
02:26:48.000 Well, this is what people need to do To get out there and see that there's more of us out here.
02:26:54.000 We met people that listened to the show that we never had any idea of in the Rochester area and we met a lot of great new people and we found out there's a lot of us out here fighting this fight.
02:27:05.000 And sir, what station are you listening to us on now?
02:27:08.000 We're on the Sunshine Radio Network, 1310 AM.
02:27:11.000 Alright.
02:27:13.000 A lot of great affiliates up in that area.
02:27:15.000 I've got three good ones in upstate New York.
02:27:17.000 Michael Rivero, will you do five more minutes with me?
02:27:19.000 Absolutely.
02:27:20.000 Okay, I want you to be able to talk about Bush lying about the war, how important that is.
02:27:25.000 Just that on its own is enough for impeachment and his arrest.
02:27:29.000 We'll be right back.
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02:30:48.000 I love this country.
02:30:49.000 I want my children to go up free.
02:30:50.000 I know we have psychopathic control freaks that are in control.
02:30:54.000 They must be resisted.
02:30:55.000 Michael Rivera, I bring this up with almost every guest because it's important.
02:30:58.000 John Yoo, one of the deputy counsels at the White House, openly in memos, and he admits he wrote it, said they can torture small children sexually in front of their parents.
02:31:06.000 He defended that.
02:31:07.000 I mean, this is... I mean, the Nazis didn't do that openly.
02:31:10.000 They just did it secretly.
02:31:12.000 And then the Attorney General says killing people by torture is okay.
02:31:15.000 I mean, these people are psychopaths.
02:31:17.000 Well, absolutely, and it's a very dangerous situation because if they're doing it to Iraqis who were really ultimately innocent of any crime at all, then the day will come when they're going to do it here to Americans simply for refusing to believe what the government says.
02:31:31.000 They're setting the precedent, and Bush told his biographer in 1999 that he's going to be a war president, so he can't be questioned domestically.
02:31:38.000 That brings us to the premeditated staged intelligence for the invasion of Iraq using duplicate propaganda on Iran.
02:31:48.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:31:49.000 At this point, you know, it is unavoidable that the Bush administration deliberately lied us into war with Iran.
02:31:58.000 The evidence is overwhelming.
02:32:00.000 First and foremost, of course, the Downing Street Minutes, which basically just exposed the fixing of the intelligence, as they put it.
02:32:09.000 The Niger documents about the Yellow Cake Uranium, they were forgeries.
02:32:13.000 Now we have a State Department Memo that was either declassified or leaked out which basically made it clear that both the State Department and the CIA were telling the White House that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction weeks before Bush's 2003 State of the Union speech and before the invasion and Bush just shrugged his shoulders and went ahead and did it anyway.
02:32:36.000 So, in my mind, there can be no greater crime committed by a leader against his people than to lie to them in order to start a war.
02:32:44.000 And I realize that wars are usually started with a lie, because most people don't want to go through the hassle of a war without a good reason.
02:32:52.000 So, you know, history is full of wars started with lies.
02:32:55.000 Hitler told the Germans Poland was about to attack, and that's how that invasion was organized.
02:33:01.000 But what is unique about this situation, and it's a historic first,
02:33:05.000 is that the lies are exposed and widely known while the war started with those lies is still going on and this is the first time in history that has happened and it is due to radio shows like yours and websites like ours and uh... uh... you know what is left to be seen now is if the american people will just continue to go along with it uh... the way the germans did with hitler or if it's clear they mean to just keep going all the way it's clear total real live hellhole dictatorship is the plan we've got to stop it
02:33:35.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:33:36.000 They will not stop themselves.
02:33:37.000 They have no interest.
02:33:38.000 Well, it's a Ponzi scheme.
02:33:39.000 They're going to fall if they don't keep making it bigger.
02:33:42.000 Absolutely.
02:33:43.000 Absolutely.
02:33:44.000 And if I have time for one more comment, I'd like to go back to the gentleman who said he was showing your movie to a group of people.
02:33:50.000 There's another option that your readers and listeners can do.
02:33:54.000 If they have purchased your videotapes and DVDs, they can go to their local cable television station.
02:34:00.000 There's a thing called Community Access.
02:34:02.000 Where you can go on and you can put any show you want on the Community Access Channel and by law, they have to let you do it.
02:34:09.000 And in fact, the first place I ever saw the Clinton Chronicles, which was an excellent videotape about the corruption of that administration, was on a cable TV channel.
02:34:20.000 We aired it over a hundred times here locally.
02:34:22.000 It was the most requested ever and it aired nationwide and really hurt Clinton.
02:34:26.000 Michael Rivero, we'll talk to you again in another month.
02:34:28.000 It was a real honor having you on.
02:34:29.000 Thanks for all the time.
02:34:30.000 Thank you.
02:34:32.000 Alright folks, here goes Michael Rivero.
02:34:34.000 I've had so many requests to replay this, I'm going to re-air the Jim Garrison summation from JFK here in just a few minutes.
02:34:41.000 Not yet, guys.
02:34:42.000 Not yet.
02:34:42.000 We're going to do that at 42 minutes 34 seconds, okay?
02:34:49.000 But that is coming up in just a few minutes.
02:34:52.000 I just want to spend a few minutes, though, here talking about A Scanner Darkly, a Philip K. Dick book, About a futuristic nightmare society where the government and private mercenary corporations control the drug trade to enslave the population, to addict them, and then to incarcerate them.
02:35:11.000 It illustrates how drugs can be used at every level to profit the elite and then they make even bigger profits off of Policing then the crime and destruction that is caused by an illegal drug trade.
02:35:28.000 So this is an official Warner Brothers independent film.
02:35:31.000 And I know the people involved in it.
02:35:33.000 They understand the New World Order.
02:35:35.000 They know what's going on.
02:35:36.000 This is a serious political statement unlike I've ever seen.
02:35:39.000 If you like Beef or Vendetta and films like Seriana, well this is the next step in that.
02:35:45.000 It is a revolutionary system of rotoscoping.
02:35:48.000 Each frame is a work of art.
02:35:50.000 They shoot live action video, digital video, and then edit it.
02:35:54.000 And of course, I am in the film.
02:35:56.000 I also did some consulting on the film.
02:35:59.000 I have a rant in the film against the controlled drug trade being used as a crisis.
02:36:07.000 And there's so many facets to this film.
02:36:10.000 The website is ScannerDarklyMovie.com.
02:36:13.000 S-C-A-N-N-E-R DarklyMovie.com.
02:36:17.000 That's an allusion to the rose-colored Darkly in the Bible.
02:36:20.000 They even have a Bible quote on the website.
02:36:24.000 And the addictive drug is Substance D or Substance Death.
02:36:30.000 And, of course, there's just amazing humor throughout the film as well.
02:36:35.000 It's a mix of things I've never really seen in a movie.
02:36:41.000 When I watched it during South by Southwest, I mean, it was a new experience.
02:36:48.000 It was something truly avant-garde.
02:36:52.000 And the developers, Richard Linklater, the director, a good friend of mine, He did years of study on the latest police state developments, the face scanners, the biometrics, and the good old-fashioned Stasi secret police, you know, one in ten being a spy.
02:37:13.000 And so he also brings that to the film, and they studied real police state developments and integrated that with the original vision of Philip K. Dick, the popular Legendary science fiction writer who originally wrote A Scanner Darkly, which is really his autobiography of how drugs and the phony drug war destroyed so many of his friends, who he describes as just being like children who didn't know not to play in the street, but who were damaged and had horrible things happen to them.
02:37:42.000 But it's set in 2011 in a near future police state.
02:37:47.000 It is so cutting edge.
02:37:49.000 The website is absolutely beautiful and dynamic and is going to be expanded.
02:37:56.000 And the film, again, integrates real police state developments and what's really happening into this near future dystopic world.
02:38:07.000 And it is so radical, it is so cutting-edge.
02:38:10.000 Cutting-edge is kind of a cheesy word, it's been overused, but it is totally avant-garde.
02:38:15.000 It is new.
02:38:15.000 I mean, just the rotoscoping, the cinematography, the incredible performances, so much dialogue with Woody Harrelson, Winona Ryder, Keanu Reeves, and just all these other amazing actors that are in it.
02:38:34.000 And then you look at the fact that they made the movie for a little over 9 million dollars when normally Keanu Reeves gets about 20 million dollars a movie made over 200 million on his last Matrix film And here he is, he was paid what, $70,000 roughly.
02:38:51.000 I mean, they did this because they were so committed to the vision that to be able to make it on their own and not have any of the controls put on them by Warner Brothers or Warner Independent, that they did it for $9 million.
02:39:08.000 Imagine taking a pay cut of over $19 million just with one of the actors And only getting a $70,000 to then go and make this film.
02:39:17.000 I mean, I don't think it's been many years since Keanu Reeves took the union rate of just what basically a beginning actor would be paid in a film.
02:39:29.000 So that's what they had to go through to bring you this film.
02:39:34.000 It is a masterpiece.
02:39:35.000 I am so honored to be part of it.
02:39:37.000 Everybody needs to go see it.
02:39:38.000 It opens in select theaters.
02:39:40.000 Coming up on July 7th and then nationwide a few weeks later.
02:39:45.000 Tell everyone about it!
02:39:46.000 We need to support real, groundbreaking, revolutionary, trailblazing films like this so it will be successful so you can see more of it.
02:39:55.000 They're taking a major risk by doing this, and they can only be commended.
02:40:00.000 And of course, Oliver Stone took another major risk making the film that you're about to hear an eight-minute clip from.
02:40:06.000 This is from Oliver Stone's JFK.
02:40:09.000 The websites are InfoWars.com.
02:40:11.000 We'll be right back with the final segment.
02:40:15.000 Hitler always said, the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.
02:40:22.000 Lee Harvey Oswald, a crazed, lonely man who wanted attention and got it by killing a president, was only the first in a long line of patsies.
02:40:31.000 In later years, Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, men whose commitment to change and peace would make them dangerous to men who have committed the war would follow.
02:40:41.000 Also killed by such lonely, crazed men.
02:40:44.000 Men who remove our guilt by making murder a meaningless act of aloneness.
02:40:50.000 We've all become hamlets in our country, children of a slain father leader whose killers still possess the throne.
02:40:57.000 The ghost of John F. Kennedy confronts us with the secret murder at the heart of the American dream.
02:41:04.000 He forces on us the appalling questions of what has our Constitution made?
02:41:09.000 What is our citizenship and more our lives worth?
02:41:11.000 What is the future of a democracy where a president can be assassinated under conspicuously suspicious circumstances while the machinery of legal action scarcely trembles?
02:41:22.000 How many more political murders to size as heart attacks, suicides, cancers, drug overdoses?
02:41:28.000 How many airplane and car crashes will occur before they are exposed for what they are?
02:41:35.000 Treason doth never prosper, wrote an English poet.
02:41:39.000 What's the reason?
02:41:41.000 Well, if it prospers, none dare call it treason.
02:41:45.000 The American public is yet to see the Zapruder film.
02:41:49.000 Why?
02:41:50.000 The American public is yet to see the real x-rays and photographs of the autopsy.
02:41:54.000 Why?
02:41:56.000 There are hundreds of documents that could help prove this conspiracy.
02:42:00.000 Why are they being withheld or burned by the government?
02:42:04.000 Each time my office or you the people have asked those questions demanded crucial evidence.
02:42:09.000 The answer from on high has always been national security.
02:42:14.000 What kind of national security do we have when we've been robbed of our leaders?
02:42:18.000 What national security permits the removal of fundamental power from the hands of the American people and validates the ascendancy of invisible government in the United States?
02:42:29.000 That kind of national security, gentlemen of the jury, is when it smells like it, feels like it, and looks like it.
02:42:35.000 You call it what it is.
02:42:41.000 I submit to you that what took place on November 22, 1963 was a coup d'etat.
02:42:48.000 Its most direct and tragic result was the reversal of President Kennedy's commitment to withdraw from Vietnam.
02:42:56.000 The war is the biggest business in America worth $80 billion a year.
02:43:02.000 President Kennedy was murdered by a conspiracy that was planned in advance at the highest levels of our government, and it was carried out by fanatical and disciplined cold warriors in the Pentagon and CIA's covert operation apparatus, among them Kalei Shah here before you.
02:43:19.000 It was a public execution, and it was covered up by like-minded individuals in the Dallas Police Department, the Secret Service, the FBI, and the White House, all the way up to, including J. Edgar Hoover and Lyndon Johnson, whom I consider accomplices after the fact.
02:43:36.000 The assassination reduced the President to a transient official.
02:43:40.000 His job, his assignment, is to speak as often as possible of this nation's desire for peace while he acts as a business agent in the Congress for the military and their hardware manufacturers.
02:43:53.000 Now some people say I'm crazy.
02:43:57.000 Southern caricatures seeking higher office.
02:44:02.000 Well there is a simple way to determine if I am paranoid.
02:44:06.000 Let's ask the two men who profited the most from the assassination, your former president Lyndon Baines Johnson and your new president Richard Nixon, to release the 51 CIA documents pertaining to Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby.
02:44:18.000 All the secret CIA memo on Oswald's activities in Russia that was destroyed while being photocopied.
02:44:25.000 All these documents are yours.
02:44:27.000 The people's property.
02:44:28.000 You pay for it.
02:44:30.000 But because the government considers you children who might be too disturbed or distressed to face this reality, Or because you might possibly lynch those involved?
02:44:40.000 You cannot see these documents for another 75 years.
02:44:44.000 I'm in my early 40s.
02:44:47.000 So I'll have shuffled off this mortal coil by then, but I'm already telling my 8-year-old son to keep himself physically fit, so that one glorious September morning in the year 2038, he can walk into the National Archives and find out what the CIA and the FBI knew!
02:45:06.000 They may even push it back then.
02:45:08.000 Hell, it may become a generational affair.
02:45:10.000 With questions passed down, father to son, mother to daughter.
02:45:14.000 But someday, somewhere, someone may find out the damn truth.
02:45:19.000 We better.
02:45:21.000 We better, or we might just as well build ourselves another government.
02:45:25.000 Like the Declaration of Independence says to, when the old one ain't working, just the little father out west.
02:45:33.000 The American naturalist wrote, A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against its government.
02:45:42.000 I'd hate to be in your shoes today.
02:45:45.000 You have a lot to think about.
02:45:46.000 You've seen much hidden evidence the American public has never seen.
02:45:51.000 You know, going back to when we were children, I think that most of us in this courtroom thought that justice came into being automatically.
02:46:00.000 That virtue was its own reward.
02:46:02.000 That good would triumph over evil.
02:46:05.000 But as we get older, we know this just isn't true.
02:46:09.000 Individual human beings have to create justice.
02:46:12.000 And this is not easy.
02:46:15.000 Because the truth often poses a threat to power.
02:46:18.000 And one often has to buy power at great risk to themselves.
02:46:22.000 People like S.M.
02:46:23.000 Holland, Lee Bowers, Gene Hill, Willie O'Keefe, have all taken that risk.
02:46:30.000 They've all come forward.
02:46:32.000 I have here some $8,000 in these letters sent Sent to my office from all over the country.
02:46:38.000 Quarters, dimes, dollar bills from housewives, plumbers, car salesmen, teachers, ambulance.
02:46:46.000 These are people who cannot afford to send money to do.
02:46:50.000 These are the ones who drive the cabs, who nurse in the hospitals, who see their kids go to Vietnam.
02:46:58.000 Why?
02:47:01.000 Because they care.
02:47:03.000 Because they want to know the truth.
02:47:06.000 Because I want the country back.
02:47:08.000 Because it still belongs to us.
02:47:11.000 As long as the people have the guts to fight for what they believe in.
02:47:17.000 The truth is the most important value we have.
02:47:19.000 Because if the truth does not endure, if the government murders truth, if we cannot respect the hearts of these people, then this is not the country in which I was born, and it is certainly not the country that I want to die in.
02:47:31.000 Tennyson wrote, Authority forgets a dying king.
02:47:39.000 This was never more true than for John F. Kennedy, whose murder was probably one of the most terrible moments in the history of our country.
02:47:50.000 You, the people, the jury system sitting in judgment on Clay Shaw, represent the hope of humanity against government power.
02:48:01.000 In discharging your duty, In bringing the first conviction in this House of Cards against Clay Shaw, that's not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
02:48:15.000 Do not forget your dying king.
02:48:21.000 Show this world that this is still a government of the people, for the people, and by the people.
02:48:30.000 Nothing as long as you live will ever be more important.
02:48:37.000 It's up to you.
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02:51:36.000 The issue of our government wallowing with the murdering communist Chinese government's very importance.
02:51:54.000 So in the first hour tomorrow, be sure and tune in.
02:51:56.000 A lot of you missed it.
02:51:57.000 I'm going to re-air that Monday interview with the, well first it will be Glenn Spencer, then 35 minutes I did, half an hour, then five minutes, then the next hour with the Chinese American doctor, Mrs. Wong, who stood up to Lord Bush and Lord Hu.
02:52:17.000 That is going to be coming up tomorrow.
02:52:22.000 You know, in the closing few minutes I have left, I was just thinking about the people that have made so many sacrifices against tyranny and evil in this country, and they didn't do it for no reason.
02:52:36.000 They didn't do it, and what they did didn't fall on deaf ears.
02:52:42.000 It didn't fall on, you know, the rocks.
02:52:46.000 It fell into fertile soil.
02:52:49.000 It grew.
02:52:51.000 And if we didn't have all these trailblazers before us, who stood up against corruption, who stood up against tyranny, who stood up against evil, we would be in a much worse position today.
02:53:02.000 I know things aren't perfect, things are bad, things look bleak, but there's a lot of rays of hope and sunshine and silver linings on these thunderheads that we witness over our humanity, our society, our world today.
02:53:15.000 And you heard John F. McManus, John Birch Society head in the first hour, Saying they're going to change directions and get more hardcore now, and maybe even talk about 9-11.
02:53:24.000 They've had a shake-up over there, that's encouraging, but he agreed that as things get worse, more and more people will wake up.
02:53:31.000 And Michael Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com agreed with that analysis as well.
02:53:35.000 So, understand, we make the world what it is.
02:53:40.000 That's God's promise that if we stand up and do the right thing, we will have an effect.
02:53:47.000 I'm very thankful for the Genesis Network.
02:53:49.000 I'm very thankful for some of the other Patriot Networks that are out there.
02:53:51.000 I'm very thankful for the AM and FM stations that pick up this broadcast.
02:53:54.000 I really appreciate your courage, your honor, your will, your love of this country.
02:53:59.000 And it's very important for the listeners to support our AM and FM affiliates.
02:54:03.000 It's very important to support the Genesis Network.
02:54:05.000 It's very important to support what we're doing here.
02:54:09.000 What I'm doing.
02:54:10.000 Because I'm dedicated to this fight.
02:54:12.000 I work very long hours.
02:54:15.000 Do everything I can.
02:54:17.000 We work ourselves to the bone.
02:54:20.000 We frantically work here at this office.
02:54:21.000 And so does Paul Watson and Steve Watson over in England.
02:54:24.000 Part of our team.
02:54:25.000 And so does Dwayne Cooch in Louisiana.
02:54:29.000 All the people that make this broadcast possible.
02:54:31.000 The folks at The Network in Minneapolis-St.
02:54:33.000 Paul.
02:54:33.000 They're in a suburb of Burnsville.
02:54:37.000 And so know that we're all together in this.
02:54:39.000 We're all in the same boat.
02:54:40.000 And we're having a lot of victories.
02:54:42.000 And we're striving ever onward and upward.
02:54:45.000 And so, you're all to be commended.
02:54:47.000 Every one of you that told somebody about the show, or everybody that emailed out the web address for InfoWars.com, or everybody that sends out the news articles that we put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into writing and a lot of research.
02:54:57.000 A lot of black circles around our eyes.
02:54:59.000 All of you that have made copies of my films and aired them on AXS TV, whether it's 10 copies or 6,000 copies, as some people have done.
02:55:06.000 I salute you.
02:55:07.000 I commend you.
02:55:08.000 We're brothers.
02:55:08.000 We're sisters.
02:55:09.000 We're brethren together.
02:55:11.000 And I've been honored to be in this fight with you, and I think we're going to win this thing with God's help.
02:55:17.000 And just in closing, I hope you will visit the online video and bookstore at Infowars.com.
02:55:23.000 I hope you will support us.
02:55:24.000 I hope you will get the videos and the books.
02:55:26.000 I hope you'll make copies of the films I produce.
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02:55:31.000 And get them out to people, and expose the murdering terrorists for who they are.
02:55:34.000 They won't get away with it if you take action.
02:55:37.000 None of us will save humanity by ourselves, but all of us moving forward, many hands make light work.
02:55:42.000 So, InfoWars.com or call toll free 1-888-253-3139.
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02:56:11.000 It's up to you.
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02:56:15.000 We're reaping a mighty harvest.
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