On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones is joined by Glenn Spencer of the American Border Patrol to discuss the latest in the war on drugs and human trafficking coming across the southern border of the United States. They discuss the tactics the Border Patrol uses to catch and detain illegal immigrants crossing the border, and the tactics they use to bring them into custody. Alex also talks to Wang Wen-Yiai, a reporter for the Epoch Times, who admonished President Bush to stop persecuting the Falun Gong.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:25.000This just in, coming up in the third hour, We'll be talking to Wang Wen-Yai, a reporter for the Epoch Times, who admonished President Bush to stop Hu from persecuting the Falun Gong.
00:01:03.000He's moved to Arizona several years ago and is really one of the forerunners of the Minutemen.
00:01:08.000He's kind of the grandfather of some of the tactics the Minutemen use successfully today and he's there of course working with them as well.
00:01:16.000They also fly unmanned aerial vehicles or drones.
00:01:19.000But, when Spencer joins us from his aircraft, sending live images back to AmericanPatrol.com and AmericanBorderPatrol.com, we have links to that up on InfoWars.com.
00:01:28.000Right now, as you can watch these live video images.
00:01:30.000Glenn Spencer, I salute you, my Paul Revere.
00:01:33.000Well, Alex, we had a little change of plans because of the wind, severe winds.
00:02:11.000Well, if you go on American Border Patrol dot com, You will see just an apprehension of 15 illegal aliens right down by the river that's very close to our headquarters right here that we tracked and reported.
00:03:01.000They apprehend them, take them to the Border Patrol headquarters, unload them, process them, take them into Mexico, and they come right back.
00:03:10.000And they keep trying until they do it, and they always do it.
00:03:13.000Now, this morning we also got an alert.
00:03:16.000We tracked a load vehicle where they had made it way past the Border Patrol.
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00:08:15.000Wayne Winyai, a reporter for the Epoch Times, who last week confronted Lord Bush and Lord DeHoube, will be joining us in about 25 minutes when Mr. Spencer leaves us.
00:08:30.000Learn about the organ harvesting, the mass murdering, all of it.
00:08:34.000Going back to Glenn Spencer, for those who don't understand what's going on here, I would love to have 25 million Chinese like Dr. Wang Wen-Yai.
00:08:47.000I would love to have 25 million of the type of farmers When the Communist Chinese government, we have video of it, marches up with machine guns, they fight back with hoes, and are mowed down, and in many cases are defeating the Chinese police and military.
00:09:02.000In America, when they take our private property, we just lay down and let them do it.
00:09:07.000But we have 20 plus million illegal aliens from Latin America, mainly Mexico, another 5 million from other countries.
00:09:14.000So 25 million to 30 million, that's conservative.
00:09:17.000Not the 14 million, now they're going, well, maybe it's 20 million.
00:09:22.000They run around with Mexican, Nicaraguan, El Salvadoran, Guatemalan, Chilean, Brazilian, flags, Haitian flags, whatever, saying this is Mexico, predominantly, and saying we need to implement the plan of San Diego.
00:09:38.000The UT Chicano Studies professor again two weeks ago said in a speech That all gringos must be killed, now it's not just white males 16 and older.
00:09:48.000And Glenn Spencer this morning flew another mission, bad weather, he had to land, and saw the illegal aliens being brought in, being bussed, Border Patrol can and won't and can't do anything.
00:09:58.000Meanwhile, Bush is grandstanding with theater, arresting, what, 1,200?
00:10:13.000And sure, top on the heels of that shed, Mexican troop incursions are exaggerated and aren't a problem.
00:10:18.000Dead Forest Service, dead FBI, dead police, dead sheriff's deputies.
00:10:22.000I've interviewed the sheriffs in Texas.
00:10:24.000When the Mexican troops come onto our country's property and aim machine guns at them, when our police are taking marijuana and cocaine out of a dump truck.
00:10:33.000Okay, we have troops putting police at gunpoint.
00:10:36.000Now, if Al-Qaeda did that, you'd never hear the end of it.
00:10:39.000But we hear, oh, the war on terror, give up all your rights, we've got to have military checkpoints in New York and Miami, and search everybody, and national ID cards, and Hillary wants open borders, calling it a border solution.
00:10:52.000Glenn Spencer, I want to go through the marches, the demonstrations, the rallies, the riots.
00:10:56.000I've seen video of racial attacks, the media covers that up.
00:11:00.000Of course, we broke the news, it was in the Dallas Morning News, but nobody picked up on it, back in December 25th.
00:11:07.000That Fox and Bush hired a big PR firm, they've used in the past, to stage all of this, and this is all staged.
00:11:13.000Give me your take on my comments and then add your comments.
00:11:16.000Well, in 1994, when we were pressing for Proposition 187 in California that cut off services to illegal aliens, 150,000 people marched through Los Angeles to protest this before the election.
00:12:32.000This is life and death of this nation that is going to be debated in the next two weeks in the Senate of the United States.
00:12:40.000And right now they're trying to kill us.
00:12:43.000And I will tell you, and you saw it, you saw the flags, you saw them out at the high school where they raised the Mexican flag and underneath that, at Montebello High School, the American flag upside down.
00:13:18.000They're going to call them, you know, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
00:13:22.000We'll give you some place where you can stay.
00:13:25.000But you're going to have to stay there and get permission to leave.
00:13:28.000If you don't think that's happening, you've got another thing coming.
00:13:32.000Well, I've already talked to a lot of my friends who live in L.A.
00:13:34.000who are chefs, degreed chefs, and they say, they're told, and these are white owners, look, our cooking crew doesn't want gringos, you can't communicate with them, you're fired.
00:13:46.000And that's going to happen over and over and over again in this country.
00:13:49.000Well, that's what the don't buy from the gringo.
00:13:52.000It's not just a boycott or a don't go to work that they've been calling for on May Day last week.
00:13:57.000And again, Hispanic Americans are very patriotic, aren't like this, but this is the illegal aliens with the Spanish media, predominantly owned by big U.S.
00:14:06.000Bottom line, they want the Pan-American Union, they want to break America up, merge us with Latin America, and they have brought in a foreign political force No, they believe that.
00:14:15.000and shielded by our media and babied by our media.
00:14:18.000They brought them here with welfare and everything else.
00:14:21.000Of course, the guest worker program is unlimited.
00:14:23.000Whoever's here for six years has legalized.
00:14:25.000It lets them bring in unlimited legal, unskilled and skilled, makes it all legal.
00:14:30.000And I want to go back to Gutierrez and others.
00:14:35.000Am I exaggerating that these professors routinely say that we all must die?
00:14:40.000No, they believe that, and they do say it.
00:14:45.000But let's, you know, these people are marginal folks.
00:14:49.000We're racist because we don't want to die!
00:14:51.000But, but let's listen... Here is this guy, David Pivitt, and this was written in the Deseret Morning News.
00:14:59.000Uh, here he was, a Harvard graduate, a member of the State Department, right?
00:15:07.000And he was writing the State Department as a diplomat, warning them That he said that the Mexican government was advancing illegal immigration as part of a... to retake the American Southwest.
00:15:28.000And this is written up, and this guy is saying, this is what is going on.
00:17:42.000You had all of the Spanish language radio stations and TV stations in Los Angeles.
00:17:47.000You had the Mayor of Los Angeles, the City Council, all of the organizations out there beating the drum, getting people out to demonstrate.
00:18:27.000Now, if the House of Representatives doesn't go along with an amnesty program, you're going to have a collision course.
00:18:35.000If they do go along with an amnesty program, you're on a collision course because the American people are going to rise up and put a stop to it.
00:18:42.000It's just the outlanders, the invaders, who are saying we're outlanders, they are going to have just a bigger force.
00:18:50.000So we need to go ahead and have the collision now.
00:18:53.000Well, I think we're almost asymptotic to 2008.
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00:19:12.000This was done deliberately before foundations of the world that took over the Border Patrol under Bill Clinton and stopped Interior Enforcement and decimated the Border Patrol.
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00:24:54.000And 20 years ago, I wrote a letter in the Daily Times that I said, it's a question of whether the Mexicans want this land more than we want to keep it.
00:25:20.000When they have rallies, they have 300,000.
00:25:23.000Yeah, but if the national media promoted for three months, and told Americans it was okay to demonstrate... I'm just telling you, right now, it looks very, very bad, and the reason is We have no resistance.
00:25:38.000There's no real resistance to this takeover.
00:25:41.000Well, that's my point, is Americans are these sweet little sappy creatures.
00:25:46.000Why do the Loricon Quistas hate Americans so much?
00:25:51.000Well, there's a lot of reasons for that.
00:25:53.000They've been taught that since childhood in Mexico.
00:25:57.000Uh, that we stole their land, and that's why they're coming up to take it back.
00:26:25.000But there is good news in that people are waking up like never before and the major polls, 84% of Americans... They're going to have to go a lot farther than they are right now.
00:26:32.000They're going to have to go a lot farther.
00:26:35.000Because we have a long road to hoe in order to put a stop to this and right now they have a freight train going for them.
00:26:43.000What about getting sheriffs in a ring all across the border, getting our sheriffs elected And I don't care what color they are, as long as they're pro-America, right along the border, and having them deputize the citizenry, having tax increases for emergency funding.
00:27:00.000Yeah, if you can get them to do it, that's a great idea.
00:27:03.000I hope that they can take the initiative.
00:27:06.000There are a lot of sheriffs along the border that have joined in the coalition, and they're speaking out.
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00:27:26.000Well, I mean, let's say we've got, you know, and most of the sheriffs I've talked to on the border, doesn't matter if their name is Gonzales or Jones, they know what's going on.
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00:34:05.000I've heard neocons on talk radio saying she deserved to go to prison, that she disrupted it, that she threatened him when her full quote, and we have it here, was simply that the Communist Chinese Party's days are numbered involving their abuse against Falun Gong and others.
00:34:20.000They have mobile execution vans, they advertise in major publications that they take organs, that they have good, quote, fresh organs.
00:34:27.000The British Medical Society, the Society of Transplantee Doctors, all of them have gone public.
00:35:54.000Well, Dr. Wang Yi Wong, we really appreciate you coming on with us.
00:35:59.000First off, I want to talk about what happened when you were in jail, after we saw you carted away, what they're charging you with, what you're facing, and then tell us about the murder in Communist Chinese.
00:36:12.000They charged me with a threat to the foreign state That means specifically the Chinese President.
00:36:24.000And it's going to be, I think there's a hearing next Wednesday to decide how they are going to proceed legally.
00:36:35.000But one thing I just want to make clear, and this is not a stretch, because I just want Urgently, urgently call upon the people's help because there is an atrocity going on, especially the thousands and thousands of life practitioners, Falun Gong, they held in labor camps and their organs being harvested and some doctors and
00:37:10.000Let me stop you there for just a second.
00:37:12.000Specifically, right now, what are you being charged with?
00:37:15.000Because they're saying they're going to charge you.
00:37:16.000Have they charged you yet with the intimidating a foreign official?
00:37:21.000Yes, that's the charge, but they arrested me.
00:37:25.000Okay, now let me add to that, that I have your full quote here, but can you re-quote it for us?
00:37:31.000Because basically you said their days of doing this are numbered.
00:37:35.000I would certainly hope their days of grabbing peaceful people and murdering them ghoulishly for their organs would be numbered, but our media is trying to spin that.
00:37:44.000Can you please give us exactly what you said?
00:37:48.000And because I said in Chinese, I don't know the media, how they got the translation.
00:39:35.000And now they have, even though they They censored the information and severed the connection of the Chinese with outside world.
00:39:44.000But people can get around and using the internet and watch the program and in different ways.
00:39:51.000So now they realize what kind of a situation they live and they want more freedom of speech and the freedom of the assembly and the freedom of belief, which ironically And guaranteed by Chinese own constitution, but we never really enjoy that privilege.
00:40:10.000And the persecution of Falun Gong is one of the typical example of the Chinese Communist Party regularly do.
00:40:20.000And they also persecute Buddhists, Christians, basically anybody.
00:40:24.000And I'm going to let you get into the persecution of the Falun Gong.
00:40:27.000We've covered it quite a bit here, and I've interviewed Falun Gong before, and we're going to give you some time, Doctor, to speak about that.
00:40:32.000But I want to get back to what did they do to you once they had arrested you?
00:40:36.000What was it like having news reporters trying to cover your mouth?
00:40:40.000And what is it like to see the American government act like this murdering dictator is a good person?
00:40:45.000I think my intention there, and this is coming from a long way, actually.
00:40:55.000I try to use the normal channel to deliver the message.
00:40:59.000In fact, in the last few weeks, I talked to quite a number of officials in Congress level, Senate level, and to raise the alarm of the message, because I think that right now, still quite a number of the people are shouting, Labor camp, their organs being harvested.
00:41:20.000And once we report of this news in March 8th, that's the first time we report.
00:41:28.000And there's several thousand people held in one of the facilities in Shenyang City, Liaoning Province.
00:41:35.000And their organs have been harvested and sold with quite a number of money.
00:41:39.000And let me tell you what they're advertising in that website.
00:41:43.000The website in that city called China International Transplantation Center in Shenyang, and they're advertising worldwide, say, if you want to have an organ transplant coming to our center, we can give you an organ within two weeks.
00:42:02.000As a physician, I know it's not simple to do the transplantation.
00:42:07.000Not only you need a blood type match, And most importantly, you have to match your tissue, HLA antigens.
00:42:17.000So in the United States, if someone wants the kidney or liver, they have to wait for years, or two years minimum.
00:42:26.000And sometimes the people will wait for longer, because not so many people donate their organs.
00:42:34.000But in China, because they persecute Falun Gong, they have a policy, say, we kill you because you didn't listen to the Communist Party, so you're a criminal.
00:42:44.000So, your body, once you've been killed, they don't need a consent from the family member.
00:42:50.000They just took it out and give the, sell it in the international market to make money.
00:42:58.000Well, Dr. Wong, you've hit the nail on the head here.
00:43:05.000The Chinese government and the private hospitals that they control openly, and this has been in the mainstream news, advertise that they have the best organs available.
00:43:18.000There's not a two, three year wait, like when my step-grandfather had hepatitis from blood transfusion years before.
00:43:23.000It took him about two years of waiting to get a proper liver.
00:43:27.000They have to wait until someone dies in an auto accident or dies of other causes.
00:43:31.000Then they hurriedly fly the organs to you.
00:43:54.000They ghoulishly, like in a Nightmare Horror movie, like coma, Murder them, and they keep them alive while they take the organs, and they kill them, and then transplant it.
00:44:16.000Our government brings the murdering king rat that runs all this here to the U.S., Bill Gates toasts him, they act like he's a good guy when he's literally Adolf Hitler.
00:44:28.000They then, this doctor, this incredibly wonderful woman, full of courage and honor, stands up to this brutal sack of demons.
00:44:37.000She stands up to him, and then they don't just drag her out and arrest her and charge her with disorderly conduct.
00:44:42.000They're charging her with something out of a terrorism subdivision under new laws of intimidating foreign officials, Section 802 of the USA Patriot Act.
00:44:51.000Okay, I want Americans to realize the type of evil we're wallowing in.
00:44:57.000Now, from the inside reports you've gotten, can you describe, Doctor, how they murder these people, exactly what goes on for us?
00:45:05.000In fact, the March 8th, our newspaper report, because two witnesses came to us from China.
00:45:12.000They risked their life and told us the story.
00:45:16.000Before that, I have collected six cases of this, but an individual one.
00:45:21.000That time, and I saw, for example, Mr. Wang Bin is 47 years old, is from an oil factory in Daqing, an oil factory.
00:45:32.000And his family sent me a photo and showed an autopsy card from the throat to the To the lower abdomen, and that's an autopsy card.
00:45:43.000Then the family member said, he's a peaceful practitioner just because he continued the practice.
00:46:10.000Now, ma'am, doctor, the Falun Gong is known for being totally peaceful.
00:46:15.000But now our media would just run the headline, Chinese government says they're dangerous cult, and then wouldn't even say who you are or what you are.
00:46:23.000Our media is now demonizing the Falun Gong.
00:46:27.000And I think it would be a lot of media because they couldn't get the information, they just copy the communism media.
00:46:35.000But in China, you have to realize that that's a state-run medium.
00:46:39.000It's a mouthpiece of the Communist Party.
00:49:19.000Then they teach truthfulness, compassion, tolerance.
00:49:23.000As a physician, I know if you want to be healthy and well-being, you need to practice something both mentally and physically.
00:49:33.000Why are the communist Chinese butchers so afraid of Falun Gong?
00:49:37.000I think because they feel... First of all, because such practices talk about the balance of both mind and body, they didn't want people to know or to be conscious about themselves and to Starting something, it's outside of the Chinese Communist ideology.
00:49:59.000They don't want people to have an identity.
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00:55:39.000In fact, in the last 30 years, they have documented the white supply of the abused using the executed prisoners of the organs.
00:55:51.000So Congress actually started the hearing from 1995, and the most recent one is just, I think it was April 19th, the day before Hu Jintao came to Capitol Hill, and they actually had a hearing.
00:56:07.000Yes, there are congressional ongoing hearings, it's admitted it's going on, and the national media says that Falun Gong claims.
00:56:15.000Specifically, Christians and other groups.
00:56:18.000Can you tell us about how they're murdered?
00:56:23.000The questions and other dissidents, anyone, you have your own belief and all underground church and people being suffering and the culture and quite a number of the people and being beaten to death, they're all going to be thinking out.
00:56:41.000Last year, the Minister, the Vice Minister of the Health Department of China, came to one of the meetings in In the Philippines, most of the 95% of the organ transplantation taking place, the donor actually from the executed prisoner.
00:57:06.000In China, they said that those organs, they got consent from their family member, but in fact, Most of the time, they really threaten the people to have this donor or organ donation.
00:57:23.000We've also caught them selling the dead bodies of babies that they murder in front of the parents if they have more than two children.
00:57:29.000I also wanted to bring up the riots every month where the farmers are fighting back against machine guns.
00:57:37.000Do you have comments on the growing resistance in China?
00:57:41.000Oh, that one, I'm probably not in a good position to make a comment.
00:57:45.000The only thing I can add to the news I reported is regarding the military part.
00:57:52.000There's a famous argument that last year, in June, the former general of the Chinese Army Zhu Chenghu, who is now the Dean of the Defense University of Beijing.
00:58:11.000Right, and he actually said that if anyone in the United States come in between Taiwan and China, they are going to use the nuclear weapon to wipe out the 200 cities.
00:58:25.000of the United States in order to have independence.
00:59:06.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:14.000She's leaving us in a few minutes and I'll get into some other news issues and items internationally, nationally.
00:59:20.000But, uh, she's Dr. Wing Wing Wong and you saw her get arrested for simply asking a mass murdering killer Killed more people, works for the government that killed more people than Hitler and Stalin.
00:59:32.000Openly selling organs on the world market, publicly doing it.
00:59:35.000The big story is our media spins it and acts like they don't know if it's true, when in the past they've admitted it.
00:59:41.000And I just want to commend you Dr. Wong for your amazing courage.
01:00:18.000Closing comments here in the last few minutes, Doctor.
01:00:20.000And there was one thing I want to say, and for Falun Gong practitioners, they are very peaceful.
01:00:26.000For me, there's one thing that you talk about me, I just want to make one correction, because I came to this country 20 years ago as a student, and then I got a PhD in the University of Chicago, I passed the board exam, so I trained as a pathologist in UC San Diego, University of California San Diego, and the Mount Sinai Hospital.
01:00:52.000Now I'm currently the chief editor for the Medicine and Life magazine, and I volunteer to do this for the appropriate time, especially the health-related news.
01:01:06.000The real reason I'm doing this, this time, is because I feel the urgency to stop the life harvest organ from practitioners.
01:01:16.000They are peaceful, they just simply have this belief and practice something good for their body and mind, and they should have a right and a privilege for that.
01:01:28.000And I would add to that, the addendum, that you've already made them shut down one of the execution harvesting centers, at least for a few weeks, when they had a staged inspection.
01:02:13.000How do they engage in this evil and feel good about themselves?
01:02:17.000And there's two witnesses told us, because her husband is responsible for removing the cornea from practitioner Falun Gong, and he told us, Falun Gong, they gave some kind of anesthetic, then they actually took the organ, because the blood, for example, the heart, when you take it out, within four or six hours, you should transplant, otherwise they die, no use.
01:02:47.000The heart they sell in the international community is 200,000 U.S.
01:03:16.000You just go to the website and type in the China International Transplantation Center, Assistant Center.
01:03:26.000British Committee, Ethnic Committee for Transplantation Center, Dr. Wigmore, come out and say they are going to investigate this issue because they realize a lot of more patients from British went to China to have a transplantation within a short time.
01:03:43.000They'd like to look into what's behind it.
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01:07:16.000Got a chance to see him on Austin television a few years ago and meant to get him on then and just somehow drop the ball but he's with us today.
01:07:25.000And we've got links to his bio and links to his websites up on InfoWars.com right now.
01:07:31.000We're going to tell you about Dr. Bob Bowman and we're going to go to him.
01:07:34.000Dr. Robert M. Bowman is President of the Institute for Space and Security Studies, Executive Vice President of Millennium III Corporation, Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church, the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Keene Peace Prize, the President's Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Republican
01:07:50.000Aviation Air Power Award, the Society of American Military Engineers, gold medal twice, the air medal with five oak leaf clusters, 101 combat missions over Vietnam as a fighter bomber, and numerous other awards.
01:08:04.000He is one of the country's foremost authorities on national security.
01:08:09.000Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bowman, former director of the Star Wars Defense Program under Presidents Ford and Carter, when it was top secret, not known, of course, until 1980.
01:08:17.000Uh, until, uh, July 82, he was Vice President of Space Communications Company.
01:08:22.000And it just goes on for several pages, ladies and gentlemen.
01:08:26.000in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech.
01:08:28.000Dr. Bowman has lectured the National War College, the United Nations, Congressional Caucuses, the Academics of Science of Six Nations, and the House of Lords.
01:08:36.000He has appeared on McLaren Near, ABC News, Larry King Show, Donahue, Firing Line, it goes on and on.
01:08:43.000And he's lectured before the National Cathedral and the Churches of many faiths, including Roman Catholic, Protestant, Anglican, Orthodox Christians, Churches, Jewish Synagogues, Muslim Mosques, Bob Bowman was the first presidential candidate officially recognized by the Reform Party in 1999, and it goes on and on.
01:09:01.000Ladies and gentlemen, he's renounced NAFTA, GAP, WTO, globalism, the whole New World Order system.
01:09:07.000But he's here today to talk about 9-11 and Star Wars.
01:09:39.000Give us your take, sir, on September 11th.
01:09:42.000Well, first of all, I'm not a wild-eyed conspiracy theorist, and I think the most unbelievable conspiracy of all is the official one told by the U.S.
01:10:56.000I first got an inkling that something was wrong with what we were being told on September 12, 2001, when all of a sudden this government that was so clueless that it had no idea that something like this could possibly happen was giving us the when all of a sudden this government that was so clueless that it had no idea that something like this
01:11:29.000And, you know, I thought right then, something is fishy.
01:11:34.000And just a quick caveat, Tennant, before the second tower was even hit, is on record telling ABC News it was Bin Laden.
01:11:41.000So, in the middle of the attack, they're already saying.
01:11:59.000Bin Laden and his 19 Arabs were far from the whole picture.
01:12:05.000They could not have pulled off something like this and there's just too much evidence.
01:12:11.000Another thing that convinced me that we're not being given the truth is the massive cover-up and destruction of evidence by our government.
01:12:25.000If our government has nothing to hide Why are they hiding all the evidence?
01:12:32.000Why are they destroying all of the physical evidence from the World Trade Center?
01:12:38.000Why are they confiscating surveillance videos from the Pentagon?
01:12:44.000Why are they confiscating and destroying voice tapes from The air traffic controllers, I mean, the list goes on and on.
01:12:54.000Compensating the three boxes they found undamaged, firefighters on record, and emergency workers saying the FBI took them out on ATVs.
01:13:02.000And, you know, if they don't have anything to hide, show us the evidence.
01:13:14.000I mean, you're 101 combat missions, and you can tell us about the aircraft you flew in Vietnam, and I've interviewed a lot of other airline pilots, current and former fighter pilots.
01:13:23.000They say that, I mean, these guys couldn't get Cessnas off the ground, admittedly, when they were creating their history, their ledger.
01:13:44.000Now, I haven't actually, you know, I've heard about some of the maneuvers that have been pulled, but, you know, I didn't really see those things come in, whatever they were, and I don't know if the maneuvers that, you know, actually happened.
01:14:02.000But if it's as it has been described, then yes, that's a heck of a feat for these Arabs that essentially flunked out of flight school.
01:14:14.000But the big thing is, they never would have gotten near those targets if ordinary, common sense, standard procedures had been followed.
01:14:30.000You remember Several years ago, Payne Stewart, in his little private plane, lost radio contact.
01:14:41.000So, by golly, 16 minutes later there were fighter jets up escorting that thing, making sure that it didn't hit in a...
01:15:21.000And so a lot of people said, why didn't we intercept it?
01:15:27.000And there were a lot of people at the beginning of the 9-11 Truth Movement that blamed the interceptor pilots, saying, why were they going so slow?
01:15:37.000And... It's now come out they were ordered to fly at 350-something miles an hour, F-16 stalling speed.
01:15:43.000Well, I haven't seen that, but I did some calculations which, with the timeline,
01:15:54.000That shows that from the time they got the word to scramble, because of considerations like takeoff roll, acceleration time, climb time, turn time, effect of altitude on top speed, wind, I see no evidence that the interceptor pilots couldn't have gotten to their targets any faster.
01:16:20.000You can't instantaneously, from takeoff, Fly at your top advertised speed of an F-15.
01:16:37.000They were scrambled about a half an hour too late.
01:16:45.000So they would have been scrambled on time?
01:16:46.000If they had been scrambled on time, they could have flown at whatever speed they actually flew at, and they could have intercepted those aircraft before they got to the World Trade Center, and of course, 77, they could have intercepted.
01:17:06.000Long before it ever got near the Pentagon or Washington, D.C.
01:17:29.000And the fact of the matter is that when An airliner, or any other aircraft, goes significantly off course, or it loses voice communications, or the transponder signal is lost.
01:18:09.000Somehow prevented from doing the normal thing.
01:18:15.000So if our government, somewhere in our government, if they had just stayed out of it and let normal things happen, Those aircraft would have been intercepted, the World Trade Centers would still be standing, and thousands of dead Americans would be alive.
01:18:38.000Dr. Bob Bowman, former head of the Star Wars program, combat pilot, Vietnam, 100 plus missions.
01:18:44.000He'll be joining us to talk more about 9-11 with his in-depth expertise, and then we'll talk about Star Wars.
01:18:50.000Stay with us, we'll be right back, sir.
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01:23:54.000I mean, I brought up a few of the facets that concern me.
01:23:57.000You know, you talk about whatever really did hit the Pentagon, and that's a whole other area of debate.
01:24:02.000But what about all the public officials being warned?
01:24:04.000What about Bush, his different think tanks saying, we need terrorist attacks to mobilize the American people?
01:24:13.000Dr. Bowman, former head of the Star Wars program, who has a motive in all of this?
01:24:18.000Well, naturally, you follow the money, but the biggest motive were the neoconservatives that run our government, because they said in a paper, beginning around 1991 and continuing, and the paper was revised and published again in 2000, before George W. Bush ever became president,
01:24:49.000And of course, long before 9-11, they published this paper in Progress for a New American Century, and the authors of that were Libby, Pearl, Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, all the usual suspects.
01:25:21.000Not just because of Iraq's oil, but to use Iraq as a staging base for the military control of Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, because they think the royal family could get kicked out there, and the southern Russian republics around the Caspian.
01:25:42.000And we're talking about In that area, maybe two trillion dollars worth of oil and gas.
01:25:50.000And control of those resources and the pipelines through Afghanistan and through Iran and through Bosnia, by the way.
01:26:13.000This is an enormous financial incentive for people who are involved in the oil and gas business, and of course that includes practically all the top people in our government.
01:26:24.000And then voila, the people who have the motive and have the capability to carry it out magically preside over the entire attack and then get what they want out of it.
01:26:33.000Yeah, and of course, in that same TNAC document, which was on their website, I don't know if it's still there, I think they may have Taking it out or cleaned it up?
01:26:42.000No, it's still there, Rebuilding America's Defenses, September 2000.
01:26:45.000But in the version that I saw on their website, they admitted in that document that the American people would never stand for this unless there was, to use their phrase, a new Pearl Harbor.
01:27:03.000And then Brzezinski in 1997 on the Grand Chess Board said, to mobilize our slaves for a war with the barbarians, we need a helpful Pearl Harbor event on the same scale or larger.
01:27:22.000And, of course, it, you know, Our government could say, well, this was a case of massive incompetence.
01:27:37.000Well, if that is the case, then how come nobody in the chain of command from the top all the way down to the poor pilots flying those interceptors, how come none of them were fired, none of them were reprimanded, none of them were court-martialed, Matter of fact, the key players in this whole mess were promoted or given medals of freedom.
01:28:05.000Yeah, General Myers gets promoted to the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff.
01:28:08.000The FBI agents that blocked other FBI agents from, quote, stopping the hijackers got record cash bonuses.
01:28:14.000And at the same time, Bush went to the CIA a week after.
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01:35:03.000Going back to our guest, just spelling it out, Dr. Bowman, 9-11, the changes that have happened in America, how they were ready with sweeping legislation that has nothing to do with stopping, quote, terrorists, if they even exist outside of intelligence agencies' handling or creation.
01:35:24.000Looking at what America's turned into today, isn't that just more evidence of who the real perpetrators of 9-11 are?
01:35:40.000Way back when I used to be a conservative Republican and there were conservative Republicans then like Bob Taft and he was called Mr. Republican and he stood for three main things.
01:36:36.000And of course, foreign military entanglements.
01:36:39.000Never has our military been stretched so thin and sacrificed so much to do so little except for the big money interests.
01:36:52.000And thirdly, of course, what you are alluding to is individual rights.
01:36:57.000This administration with their Patriot Act, which they rammed through after 9-11 and most of the people in Congress didn't even get a chance to read it.
01:37:07.000This has done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined.
01:37:17.000Getting back to 9-11, I mean, just stating it on the record, in your gut, from all the analysis you've done, you've already said their official story is impossible.
01:37:25.000Clearly, sir, I mean, from all the evidence you've got, if you were a police officer, if you were a detective, who would you investigate?
01:37:35.000Well, if I had to narrow it down to one person, of course, I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney.
01:37:44.000But the fact of the matter is that there needs to be a true independent investigation, not the kind of sham investigations that we have Had with the 9-11 omission and all the rest of that.
01:38:01.000By the way, we went to a press conference on Friday and confronted Chairman Keene and we said, well, you were appointed by Bush.
01:38:06.000He said, no, no, I was appointed and we went, yeah, but you appointed everybody else.
01:38:11.000And then we brought up Building 7 and he said he didn't know anything about Building 7.
01:38:14.000Yeah, well, that so-called 9-11 commission omitted anything that might be the least bit Suspicious, or embarrassing, or in any way detract from the official conspiracy theory.
01:38:42.000What is the only organizations that can carry out something on the scale of 9-11?
01:38:46.000Well, you see, where I'm coming from is I don't believe that we have the evidence to know whether Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda was involved and the people in our government simply got wind of it and capitalized
01:39:13.000on it and made sure that nobody interfered with it, or if the The thing was planned from beginning to end.
01:39:23.000Well what you just said, the first thing is bare minimum.
01:39:25.000I mean the first thing is bare minimum.
01:39:28.000Bare minimum, but then look at all the other... We don't know if it's even worse than that, that it was totally planned and carried out by people other than the The official suspects.
01:39:39.000Well, sir, I mean, Dr. Bowman, you headed up the Star Wars program, highly decorated, you know, worked at the highest levels of government.
01:39:45.000When you talk to your former colleagues in and out of government, I mean, certainly they've got to know, they're not stupid either.
01:39:52.000Well, the thing is, I don't... The people who were in that military chain of command, from the evidence that I've seen,
01:40:08.000I'm not sure that any of them below the people directly involved with the White House, I don't believe that any of the people in the military chain of command necessarily knew what was going on.
01:40:24.000They could have been all innocent tools of the people that were pulling the strings.
01:40:30.000Is that why the drills were used to confuse everybody?
01:40:35.000Those exercises that went on that morning simulating the exact kind of thing that was in fact happening so confused the people in the FAA and NORAD and whatnot that they didn't know what was real and what was part of the exercise and I think that the people that
01:41:03.000Planned and directed and carried out those exercises.
01:41:11.000They're the ones that should be the object of investigation.
01:41:16.000I don't want to prejudge who was guilty.
01:41:21.000After all, I'm running for Congress and I'm hoping when I get to Congress to get a real investigation going to raise questions and I don't want to be presumptuous and get up there and say I have the answers.
01:41:38.000What I want to do is to get up there and prove that we don't know the answers and that the official answers we've been given are impossible.
01:41:51.000We've got to dig deeper and we've got to look elsewhere.
01:41:55.000And see if we can get a real investigation going to eventually prove who was responsible.
01:42:01.000But as you say, all the evidence, the only people that could carry this out is the highest levels of the black world squads, the private corporations that basically run our government.
01:42:17.000Well, I mean, I appreciate your courage in even going this far and saying the whole thing's a fraud and that your main suspect is Dick Cheney.
01:42:25.000What about the FBI agent listening right now, who's a good person themselves, Dr. Bowman, so they can't believe that other people in government or in this system, in the black world, could be involved in something like this?
01:42:39.000What would you say to those naive souls out there?
01:42:43.000Well, there were a lot of FBI people that did their jobs and reported things that got absorbed into the system somehow and got never acted on.
01:42:54.000Yeah, they specifically said, these guys are hijackers, they're going to attack the World Trade Center, and they were ordered, you'll be arrested if you don't drop this case.
01:43:03.000And so, to those folks that were trying to do their job and protect this country, I say, you know, Keep doing your job and protect this country by blowing the whistle and investigating the real perpetrators.
01:43:21.000If they would have blown the whistle publicly and gone ahead and gone to jail, we might have seen 3,000 people still alive.
01:43:49.000I've experienced, and I was at the head of the Star Wars program, the most classified government program we know of in existence for six years as you were.
01:43:58.000A lot of experts believe, a lot of other prominent people are going public.
01:44:03.000They believe that the globalists are going to carry out another terror attack in the Western world very soon because their entire agenda is stalling.
01:44:11.000We also have gotten a Republican memo saying they, quote, need another 9-11 or they're cooked.
01:45:05.000But privately, I haven't gotten any disagreement from any of them on the things that I'm saying.
01:45:13.000Same thing, I mean, I personally know current airline pilots that are flying 777s and stuff and they just go, of course it was an inside job, but they won't say it publicly.
01:45:23.000They want to hang on to their jobs and protect their families and all the rest of it and I understand that.
01:45:29.000But I mean, what's going to happen when national polls show the majority of Americans are saying inside job now, Doctor?
01:45:37.000Well, problem is we don't have anybody In Congress that's capable of making and willing to make enough noise to get something to really happen.
01:46:37.000There are now 72 of us, well as of two weeks ago when I was up in Washington D.C., there were 72 of us who are the Fighting Dems, the Band of Brothers, all combat veterans, all running for Congress for the first time.
01:46:56.000Uh, and all running against the Iraq War.
01:47:01.000What do you think of this gaggle of chicken hawks?
01:47:03.000I mean, you had Sam Missile shooting at you in AAA.
01:47:07.000I mean, 101 missions, as highly decorated as it gets for the Air Force.
01:47:10.000I mean, it's highly decorated until the Congressional Medal of Honor.
01:47:13.000What is it like for you to then just see these little wimpy chicken hawks running around, talking tough, and saying, bring it on?
01:47:21.000Well that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
01:47:24.000I really didn't want to run for office again.
01:47:28.000I tried to find somebody younger and healthier but when it came right down to it there wasn't anybody else.
01:47:38.000Nobody else that was capable, willing, had the information I've got and so I just had to Put my money where my mouth was and say, okay, I will run.
01:47:53.000And the Democrats pleaded with me to take their nomination because the incumbent Republican is one of those that just does whatever Bush and Karl Rove tells them to do.
01:48:05.000Tell us where you're running and how folks can support you.
01:48:07.000Well, I'm running in Florida District 15 against Dave Weldon.
01:48:14.000The way people can support me is simply by going to my website, Bowman2006.com, and reading the issues and whatnot that I stand for, and sending me money.
01:48:30.000We've got a PayPal link right on there, or they can just fire off a check and mail it to me.
01:48:35.000Well, I can think of no better type candidate than yourself.
01:48:37.000We need more people in there that know what's happening.
01:48:56.000But we need enough money to get the message out to the people of this district, to make them aware of the issues, and to give them a choice, a chance to really vote.
01:49:10.000If you're not the incumbent, Nobody knows your name, and it's very, very difficult.
01:49:17.000Last time around, this incumbent won by a 2-1 margin.
01:49:21.000That's not going to happen again, I can guarantee you, but I think we have a real chance of winning this game if we get a little help.
01:49:29.000Well, Ron Paul has said we need to remove the Republicans.
01:49:31.000He says we've got to check this executive monopoly that's formed.
01:49:35.000I mean, Bush is saying it's above the law.
01:49:37.000And all of the lily-livered Democrats that supported the President in the war and all this other stuff as well.
01:49:47.000We're going to take a call from Ron in New York when we get back, and I hope to twist your arm and stay a little bit more with us to talk about Star Wars.
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01:53:02.000So I didn't do the first few days of the week.
01:53:05.000So I didn't skip Friday to go confront Chairman Keene up in Up in Georgetown when he was talking to the Southwestern University there, I did send some of my crew and we've got an amazing video report that's going to be going up later this afternoon on InfoWars.com and a text report that we're going to put together about what happened.
01:53:30.000I know he's waiting in the wings, local TV host, one of my progeny in the fight against the globalists.
01:53:35.000I'm very proud of that because he's very astute and now writes articles for national publications about the globalists.
01:53:41.000I've asked Bob to come on the last 30 minutes of the show because I know he's called in so I can play some of these clips.
01:53:47.000We have five clips coming up near the end of the broadcast.
01:53:50.000And so we can play those short clips and get Bob's take on that.
01:55:15.000As reported in the New York Times Magazine on March the 12th, Six degrees of separation.
01:55:21.000The government is coming up very soon with a new matrix database system in which basically the standard set for it is that everybody will appear culpable in being there.
01:55:31.000Now the amazing thing about it, and I ask your audience to consider on the face of it how preposterous This is.
01:55:38.000The NSA has a database in which they say 325,000 people in this country are potential terrorists.
01:55:46.000Now if you were to believe that 325,000 people in the United States are terrorists, then you would have to buy into a preposterous belief That we have an army of terrorists on American soil that is almost three times or more than three times the size of the American army on the ground in Iraq.
01:56:04.000And for four and a half years they haven't struck us.
01:56:07.000And then you look at the London bombing and that was clearly MI5, MI6.
01:56:10.000That's now been confirmed conclusively.
01:56:13.000Ron, can you comment on both those points?
01:56:16.000Well, I believe that they want very much to attack Iran and We've got to prevent that.
01:56:25.000I would like, with some of the time that we have left, to comment on what is going on now in Iraq and what we should do about that and how that dovetails into preventing an attack against Iran.
01:56:40.000What do you think about all these databases tracking Americans, the Real ID Act?
01:56:45.000Well, that goes along with the whole Patriot Act and trying to Limit the freedoms of the American people and it's the kind of thing that we should not allow.
01:56:58.000Ron Paul and many others have said we're in danger of a dictatorship and a total takeover.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:01.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000We're now to the third and final hour of this live Monday, April 3rd, 2006 edition, first broadcast of the new month.
01:58:16.000And the former head of the Star Wars program, Dr. Robert M. Bowman, joins us.
01:58:22.000He's a presidential candidate on the reform ticket.
01:58:25.000He is also running for Congress right now in Florida.
01:58:28.000All of his websites, Bowman2006 and others, are up on Infowars.com right now.
01:58:33.000He'll be with us now for the next 20 minutes.
01:58:35.000Getting into his views on Iraq, Iran, and what's really happening over in Iraq.
01:58:41.000Then before he leaves us, I've also got a few questions about Inside Star Wars.
01:58:45.000And then we've got Bob Dacey joining us in the last 30 minutes of the broadcast to talk about his confrontation with Chairman Keene last Friday with my crew as well.
01:58:52.000We'll have some audio clips of part of his speech, the question and answer, all of it.
01:58:57.000The press conference is just amazing stuff.
01:58:58.000So that's coming up in T-minus 29 minutes.
01:59:02.000Right now, going back to Dr. Bowman, you've got the floor, sir.
01:59:04.000Give us your view on Iraq, where it's going, where Iran's going.
01:59:11.000I joined the Air Force to protect our borders and our people, not the financial interests of Folgers, Chiquita Banana, Exxon, and Halliburton.
01:59:20.000Now, I think we've had enough corporate wars.
02:00:05.000We're the number one rogue nation on Earth.
02:00:11.000Well, people ask me, you know, why on Earth I'm running for Congress, Democrat, down here in Florida.
02:00:21.000As a pilot who flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam, I swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that includes a renegade president.
02:00:33.000I think it's time for George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice, and the whole oil mafia to be removed from office and indicted for treason.
02:00:44.000And if I get elected to Congress, I'm going to go in that direction.
02:00:49.000I think we owe it to the men and women serving in Iraq to end our occupation, restore our credibility and honor, and bring them home.
02:00:57.000And the only way to do that is to give up control of the Iraqi oil, give up control of the rebuilding contracts, And give up the 14 permanent military bases we're building in Iraq.
02:01:09.000Those are the three reasons that we went into Iraq in the first place.
02:01:16.000I mean, they know that 70 plus percent are now against them, and they just seem to have more hubris than ever.
02:01:21.000Well, you know, those things are what they really went to war for in the first place.
02:01:26.000It was the reason for 9-11, is to give them an excuse to go into Iraq.
02:01:31.000It was their, you know, new Pearl Harbor.
02:01:35.000And they're not going to get out unless they're forced out.
02:01:41.000If we had a Congress that served the needs of the American people and served the Constitution of the United States, instead of giving an appointed president a blank check to go in there, the members of Congress would say, hell no, and they would refuse any money to continue that war.
02:02:02.000What they can do now is say, we will provide money for armor for our troops, we'll provide money for safely extracting them from that quagmire while they're still alive, but we will not appropriate another dime To go over there and get our troops killed for your oil.
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02:05:55.000Well, so does he He's Alex Jones On the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:06:06.000Engaging the global control freaks, the corporatists, the global fascists that fund both sides of the political paradigm.
02:06:18.000Engaging them at point-blank range in the info war.
02:06:22.000Smashing their capital ships that Pump out the lies, discrediting their frauds, more and more people coming forward, speaking out, calling for treason charges, calling for the arrest of these criminals.
02:06:35.000We're trying to derail an attempt at a Nazi Germany slash Sovietized style takeover of the planet.
02:06:42.000And make no mistake, that's all those were in the past were other examples of empire.
02:06:47.000And we're here with this neo-colonialism where we're being colonized as well.
02:06:51.000So many Americans think, oh yeah, we are getting our oil.
02:06:54.000I hear them on talk radio, but good, we're the empire.
02:07:24.000We've got links to his different websites at InfoWars.com right now.
02:07:29.000Sir, talking about global empire, talking about these global corporations, they've got to know that they're endangering the entire stability of the planet and our very civilization by their wild gambles for more power and control.
02:07:43.000Do you think they'll be able to attack Iran?
02:07:45.000Do you think they're going to be able to get that launched?
02:07:48.000Well, I sure hope not, but at this point I'm not sure how we can stop them, except I have Great hopes that the people in the military can put a stop to it.
02:08:07.000At least twice in our recent history, the military chain of command within the White House has essentially prevented World War III.
02:08:20.000They took the button out of the hands of the President.
02:08:24.000One time was under Richard Nixon when he was Under threat of impeachment, and he was very unstable at that point.
02:08:35.000And the people within the White House, I know because they're friends of mine, the people who had the football and could initiate nuclear war, talked to each other and said, what are we going to do, you know, if he says nuke the Russians?
02:08:56.000They made up the, they decided that, you know, first there would be the question, why sir?
02:09:02.000And unless there was a damn good answer, nothing was going to happen.
02:09:06.000Because they took the same oath I did to defend the Constitution of the United States and protect it against all enemies foreign and domestic.
02:09:17.000That's right, you follow that, you don't follow the Fuhrer.
02:09:21.000So I am hopeful that there will be enough people In the Pentagon, and generals willing to be fired, like General Shinseki was, who dared tell the truth about what it would take to pacify Iraq, willing to be fired to say the truth, and not do something which is illegal, immoral, unconstitutional,
02:09:50.000Against the Nuremberg Principles and a war crime.
02:09:53.000Well let me raise that point that you just brought up.
02:09:56.000Even Secretary White, who was a crook involved with Enron and the fake trading and the rest of it, they appointed their own crony as Secretary of the Army.
02:10:04.000He said, look, all my generals say 400,000 troops and they'll still probably fail.
02:10:08.000And they said, I want your resignation tomorrow.
02:10:11.000It's the same thing with Shinseki and others canning him.
02:10:14.000I mean, even people that are Well, I'm just hoping that there are enough people in the military, and I know a lot of them, and I have great respect for them, that are willing to get themselves fired before getting this country into another quagmire, another war of aggression
02:10:48.000God grant us regime change in Washington, D.C.
02:10:51.000Did your sources back during Nixon and Reagan say that, I mean, certainly Nixon has come out with planning to bomb his own convention to blame it on his political enemies.
02:11:04.000And I know that he was in some danger of starting a war in the Middle East just to get himself extricated from all of this.
02:11:10.000Are you saying that from your sources when you were, you know, later the head of I guess the Space Command and the whole Star Wars secret project at the time.
02:11:20.000You're saying you've been told by high level sources that, I mean was there a concern he'd do it because he was on all those meds going crazy talking to himself or was there some type of inkling that he might attack somebody to get out of hot water?
02:11:36.000I think the neocons have decided they're going to do whatever it takes Cheney doesn't think he has long to live with the six heart attacks, basically like Darth Vader, with all the apparatus he has with him and four heart experts at all times.
02:11:49.000It just seems like these guys want to go out with a bang like they're totally nuts.
02:11:53.000Well, I'm pleading with our military chain of command to defend the Constitution of the United States and our people and their own troops by disobeying any Order which is illegal and God knows the order to do an aggressive war is an illegal order.
02:12:21.000Well, Dr. Bellman, it's almost like we're in Nazi Germany and we're having to hope the high command does something.
02:12:27.000I mean, we've gotten into a situation... And 9-11 was our Reichstag fire.
02:12:35.000So, I mean, we're here in this Twilight Zone type atmosphere where we're having to beg people to not do it.
02:12:44.000Let me bring up Star Wars, because I was reading some accounts about when you were the head of the Star Wars program, you even had the top brass say, look, when you leave here, go warn everybody and stop this.
02:12:57.000Of course, nothing classified, but whatever you can tell us that you've already said before, and then anything new you can tell us.
02:13:07.000When I retired, I felt good about what we had done.
02:13:10.000The Star Wars program was a quiet, super-secret research program to understand the technology and develop countermeasures and know what the Russians might be able to do and to develop the bits and pieces just in case the answer changed.
02:13:28.000But the answer we got from our strategic studies was, forget the technology.
02:13:36.000If you were successful technically in building this thing, it would be against our national security interests because it's useless in the hands of an innocent party sitting back trying to protect itself because it's so vulnerable.
02:13:51.000It's only useful in the hands of an aggressor.
02:13:56.000And so I reported that to our government in 1977 and Uh, what happened was that after I retired in 78, all of a sudden Reagan gets elected and with him, pulling his strings are the people that we in the military used to call the lunatic fringe.
02:14:20.000Crazy George Keegan, General Danny Graham, Edward Teller.
02:14:25.000And these folks got him to do Star Wars, and I think convinced him that he invented the idea, which he, of course, claimed in his March 23, 1983 speech.
02:14:36.000Well, yeah, in 1979 at Bohemian Grove, Time Magazine reported they came to him and said, we've already got this program, call it Star Wars.
02:14:46.000Well, I called it Star Wars in 1977 in my secret report to the government.
02:15:46.000Now they were worried because, and correct me if I'm wrong, Doctor, because this would just cause a weapons race in space, something that hadn't been weaponized yet, and as you said, it would allow the Russians then to have a sneak attack capability, and it was only good for us in a sneak attack offensive capability.
02:16:02.000That's right, and of course, We always believed, we in the military believed, that we were the good guys, that we weren't going to start a nuclear war, that we wouldn't be the aggressors, and so these weapons were useless to us.
02:16:17.000They were only valuable to an aggressor.
02:16:20.000And we know that the people that were pulling Reagan's strings, that's exactly what they wanted.
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02:22:23.000You know we play, we play a clip of that almost every single broadcast because I want to thank our founding fathers and I want to thank the veterans and I want to thank the modern day heroes like Dr. Bob Bowman who are standing up and who are going to help us defeat these bastards.
02:23:07.000There's so many of us now, and I tell people out there, if you've got a combat veteran running for office in your district, and he's against this Iraq war, and he's against NAFTA, GATT, CAFTA, World Trade Organization, all the globalization, help him!
02:23:36.000Help us all get in there and have a Citizens Congress that will serve the needs of the people for a change instead of the greeds of the corporations and the billionaires.
02:23:47.000Well sir, you're a warrior in your own right and I mean so many people say we can't win, we can't fight, but what fight in life Even if it's a bully picking on you when you're 10 years old, he's 15, he's trying to beat you up, it's always better just to fight back.
02:24:01.000I mean, I know that half the battle is knowing we can win and simply putting one foot in front of the other.
02:24:32.000But we've also got the motivating factor of trying to keep this country free.
02:24:35.000I mean, you know, they changed the rule two years ago where they can start taking private pension funds, and now GM's talking about gutting it.
02:25:27.000Well, Star Wars Defense or Death Star.
02:25:30.000It's out of print now, but I do have a few of them.
02:25:36.000And if people are really interested in that, they can contact me through my website.
02:25:42.000And if they're interested in the history of this, this is a 1984 book.
02:25:49.000But it tells all the technology and the strategy and why these things were against our security interest and why if we had done what Reagan said he wanted to do, which is build Star Wars and give one to the Russians too so we'd both be protected, it would have meant instantaneous and automatic nuclear war.
02:26:17.000And the last minute we've got left, why?
02:26:22.000Well, these weapons, including the ones that Bush is working on now and wanting to put into space, are so vulnerable to even modest technology that any country that wanted to actually shoot an ICBM at us and had the technology to do that,
02:26:45.000would automatically have the technology to shoot down Bush's 747s with lasers orbiting off the coast of China, for example, or destroy one of our cruisers with interceptors on it sitting off the coast of North Korea.
02:27:06.000The thing about all of these weapons, including the space weapons, is they have to get within Miles of the launch point to do any good, and they can be destroyed.
02:27:17.000So, it was all a hoax on the American people, this whole defense shield.
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02:31:06.000In the cross Before we go to Bob Dacey and play five clips from the InfoWars team, of course he was involved in that as well, confronting Lord Keane Friday from the Lee Hamilton Keene Fraud Commission.
02:31:23.000Before we do that, I just want to say something.
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02:35:37.000When other people attack me, that's not what this movement's about.
02:35:41.000It's a bunch of egomaniacs, or paid COINTELPRO bloggers, and it's admitted a lot of them are paid, trying to get us all fighting with each other, going, that person's an agent, this person's an agent, that person's bad, this one's bad.
02:35:52.000No, it's about the info and getting in the fight.
02:35:56.000Okay, we know the globalists are bad, we know they're coming down on us, we know what's happening, let's have a big tent, let's get everybody involved in this fight, and let's come in for the big win.
02:36:06.000Okay, and I just thought I'd spend a minute or two on that.
02:36:08.000And some of these people are just egomaniacs.
02:36:10.000A lot of others are paid on the payroll.
02:36:12.000You know, admittedly, former CIA or police or others.
02:37:34.000I heard you talking about Mr. Chairman Keene, and I thought, well, gee, since I was there, I might call in and, you know, tell people what happened, you know?
02:37:43.000What do you think about everybody starting to wake up?
02:37:45.000I mean, are you getting the same thing I'm getting, that there is an explosive renaissance of understanding happening?
02:37:50.000I have found that it's easier and easier and easier for more mainstream people all the time to get the big picture now, because it's so in your face.
02:38:02.000I mean, I remember day one down at the TV station saying it's an inside job and even having another producer down there who's supposedly a patriot screaming and cussing at me in the hallway saying, how dare I say that?
02:38:12.000Of course, they're not saying that now.
02:38:14.000No, they're not because more and more evidence is coming out despite everything they're trying to do to shut it up.
02:38:26.000They really were shilling for the New World Order, but I'm not joking.
02:38:29.000It was called the Schilling Lecture there at the oldest university in Texas, north of Austin.
02:38:35.000Just give us a ballpark of what happened, and then I'm going to play some clips.
02:38:39.000Well, basically what happened is, when we were trying to gather there as media, trying to figure out where to set up for the little press conference they had before the speech, the first thing that happened is we noticed that we were told we couldn't go up there yet because the students who were going to be asking the questions at the end of the conference, at the end of the speech, were being prepped by Keynes people.
02:39:01.000And I looked at Kelly Tedder, my producer, and she looked at me and we thought, did we just hear that?
02:39:06.000And we went up, when we finally went up there... Because later they declared it was independent new questions, it really wasn't.
02:39:11.000Well, they had three people come up, they're like chosen students to come up and speak to the governor and ask him questions.
02:39:17.000But they were prepping them up there in the room before the thing happened.
02:39:20.000And as they were leaving the room, I asked one of the students, are you the guy that's going to be asking the questions after the speech?
02:40:08.000Yeah, well, you know, I didn't know what the situation was going to be.
02:40:12.000I didn't know what kind of press was going to be there, but as it turned out, there were only four reporters in the press availability, and two of them, myself included, and of course, Kevin Smith from InfoWars, were hostile.
02:40:22.000And that was quite impressive, because he was there for 15 minutes, deflecting the serious questions.
02:40:28.000You know, I'm the guy that asked him the question about Building 7.
02:40:34.000I laid the whole thing out, and he just absolutely blew it off.
02:40:39.000We're going to play some of those clips here in just a moment.
02:40:41.000And then later, he was even having people screaming in the audience, what about building 7 as well?
02:40:46.000And then he basically said, biometrics will save us, A-bombs are going to go off, give up all your rights.
02:41:03.000His biggest fear was that the big nuke was going to get us.
02:41:06.000And yet when Kevin asked him a question about arming, going after Iran instead of Pakistan, he sat there and twisted around on himself and said, well, Pakistan is really dangerous.
02:41:18.000And I'm thinking, well, then why are we arming them?
02:41:20.000I mean, you know, they can't keep their facts straight.
02:41:23.000Meanwhile, the border is wide open, but we've all got to let the police pull us over and shake us down.
02:41:27.000Tell you what, let's just go ahead and play the clips now, and after each clip you can comment.
02:41:32.000After things happened, my guys were going to unfurl a banner that said 9-11 was an inside job, but for some reason they didn't inside the auditorium, so they tried to do it outside with Stewart and others, and then the police come right over, and you're out front, People are coming out outside by the street, and the police say, get that out of here, and it'll all be up there later.
02:41:52.000Then the cops start laughing at us as they leave, and the free speech zone is by baseball fields, hundreds of yards away, behind the university, where no one can even see you.
02:42:03.000So see, in the new Soviet America, your free speech is far away.
02:42:06.000Then he gets into two clips on Building 7.
02:42:08.000Let's go ahead and play the officer and the free speech zone as they're asking where it is, and they just say, hey, it's out in that field over there.
02:42:45.000Well, my comment on that is, yeah, that's what happened.
02:42:48.000I was watching it when they escorted him away.
02:42:51.000But the thing is, since when does America have free speech zones?
02:42:55.000I thought all of America was a free speech zone.
02:42:58.000Well, it's like in Nashville, they called up all the businesses on the parade route before and said, no Bush signs, no anti-Bush signs in your windows.
02:43:06.000And one coffee shop owner said, I'm a Republican, but I'm a Vietnam vet.
02:43:16.000And so the free speech zone, of course, is always where no one can see you, Bob.
02:43:19.000Yeah, out there under the highway up in New York, right?
02:43:21.000I mean, people have to realize, hey, The people that run our government right now claim that there are free speech zones where you're allowed to have free speech.
02:43:35.000Uh, well, if I'd have been there, I'd have had to make them arrest me, and I've been arrested before for, I mean, and I'm gonna sue them, and in some cases we win, in some cases we lose, but, I mean, folks, this is disgusting.
02:43:45.000They even, on the side of the highway, they're now saying no free speech.
02:43:48.000Uh, let's go ahead and play the next one.
02:43:51.000This is where he tells us we're all gonna get nuked any minute.
02:43:55.000The thing that keeps me awake is the danger of a terrorist with a nuclear device.
02:44:04.000That is, to me, the nightmare scenario.
02:44:07.000The nightmare scenario, but our government helps arm North Korea, Pakistan, they're going to let India, who hasn't signed any agreements, accelerate their production of hydrogen weapons.
02:44:17.000They gave the communist Chinese the MIRV and re-entry technology for their Long March 2's.
02:44:22.000Don't forget, Alex, that the Bush administration now wants the Hutchison-Wampoa, the Chinese communist company that's run by the Chinese army, to be in charge of detecting nuclear activity trying to come into our country through the ports.
02:44:37.000And folks, by the way, it is mainstream news that that is the PLA and that the Navy runs those ships.
02:44:46.000It is the Chinese military to run our biggest deepwater port in the Bahamas.
02:44:51.000They've already got Long Beach and the Panama Canal.
02:44:54.000Yeah, so you think they're really scared of the big nuke getting smuggled into the country when here we have our great ideological enemy, the Communist Chinese, going to be in charge of making sure those things don't get in here.
02:45:06.000That is absolutely, I don't know what the word is, Alex.
02:45:10.000Bob, be sure and add that in your piece, because we're going to have all these clips up there and more.
02:45:14.000I think it's about 30 months long or so.
02:45:17.000We're going to have it all up there, and people can go through and just see this for themselves.
02:45:20.000The next clip, let's just play this one, and then it's a self-explanatory.
02:45:25.000And what we learned, what we learned from all that research and all that we did, was that the United States government had failed us at the most fundamental level, and above all, a failure of imagination.
02:45:41.000Because nobody in all these layers of government ever imagined that scenario.
02:45:46.000And then of course it's admitted that they had total prior knowledge, even if you believe they weren't involved, and blocked the FBI from stopping them, the so-called Al-Qaeda, Al-Syiatis.
02:45:54.000So that's a manifest fraud right there.
02:45:59.000And then their answer is a total centralization, a dictatorship run by a torture master, John Negroponte, to keep us safe.
02:46:06.000Yeah, nobody imagined this scenario, although the Pentagon was, in the year before September 11th, was having a drill about a plane smacking into the Pentagon, right?
02:46:16.000And he didn't mention in his little horrible scenario about how we were failed that the two of the hijackers that were living in San Diego were living with an FBI informant.
02:47:03.000At 5.20pm on September 11th, World Trade Center Building Number 7, 47-story, modern-framed steel skyscraper that no plane hit, collapsed into a neat little pile onto itself, and exhibiting all the characteristics of controlled demolition.
02:47:21.000The guy owns the place, Larry Silverstein, belatedly admitted on a documentary on MBS that he got together with the New York Fire Department and pulled the building, which is the demolition target for taking it down.
02:47:35.000FEMA, in their investigation, didn't say that.
02:47:38.000They said the fire was knocked down, but they couldn't figure out how.
02:47:43.000Video evidence shows What appears to be an explosive squeeze going up the side of the building from the south to the north or from bottom to top as the building collapsed.
02:47:53.000There was molten metal found at the base of that building and the temperatures exceeded anything normal fire could cause.
02:48:00.000There's a lot of confusion about what happened to Building 7.
02:48:03.000Why is there not a word about the collapse of that building in the 9-1-1 Commission Report?
02:48:09.000So see, that's the question we played after his response.
02:48:11.000When we come back, we'll play his response one more time.
02:48:14.000I'm sorry, the room didn't have good audio quality.
02:48:18.000But imagine, he says all that, and then Keener says, I don't know anything about it.
02:48:23.000We didn't really discuss that in the report, because no loss of life.
02:48:27.000Actually, a Secret Service agent died in there.
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02:52:01.000I can't blame my guys, they did a great job, but I told them that when Keene poo-pooed and moved past building 7 to yell at him, hey, answer the question, respond to Silverstein, respond to the bombs in the building.
02:53:04.000I asked him about the financing of September 11th and why in his 9-1-1 report he said that, quote, ultimately the question is of little practical significance.
02:53:13.000In regard to who financed the attack, and his basic answer to that was that because so little money was spent to carry it out, it wasn't worth pursuing.
02:53:23.000You know, like if you have a hitman, you have a contract with a hitman to go out and kill somebody, if you don't pay him very much, the cops aren't going to investigate who paid him off.
02:53:34.000I think if it works out to 3,000 dead people and $500,000 Cost to carry it out, that works out to about $166 a person.
02:53:42.000So, I guess the rule from the King Commission is if you want to take out a contract killing on somebody, make sure you spend less than $166 and then the cops won't even worry about who paid for the hit.
02:54:06.000Well, you know, I also asked him about FBI agent Robert Wright and why there was nothing of his testimony that appeared in the 9-1-1 report.
02:54:15.000And Mr. Keene there said, well, yes, I think he did.
02:54:19.000And apparently now we found out there's two reports.
02:54:22.000There's one that they published for us, slobbering masses, and apparently there's a secret one that we don't know about.
02:54:27.000Well, we know from Wright's lawyer who we've interviewed, David Shepherds, and Larry Klayman as well, that it was that he was ordered under threat of arrest not to stop Al-Qaeda.
02:55:08.000Now, also, you guys brought it up, and I want to make sure my people put this in the tape, all the stuff you're mentioning we're going to post on the site later today.
02:55:14.000You guys said, hey, you were appointed by Bush, and he said, yeah, but I appointed the others.
02:55:42.000I mean, that Atlantic blue blood accent.
02:55:44.000I mean, nothing against the Brits, but this whole class of bluebloods in America, who are so un-American, they've never even adopted our, our, our, our, our speech patterns.
02:55:54.000Well, they sound so intelligent that way.