On today's show Alex Jones is joined by Cindy Sheehan and Ray McGovern as they protest the Bush administration's handling of the Iran/ Iraq War and the cover-up surrounding it. Also, the FBI has a good lead on Jimmy Hoffa's location and more.
00:00:48.000One of them, coming up in 30 minutes, led a huge demonstration at Donald Rumsfeld's house with Ray McGovern and others, as well as Cindy Sheehan, asking why he lied and faked intelligence.
00:00:58.000And we have their own White House documents showing they premeditatedly staged the intelligence against Iraq on multiple levels.
00:01:06.000They're now doing the exact same thing with Iran.
00:01:10.000General Hayden is saying they have the legal power to tap phones without warrants now repeating things he said several months ago and the Associated Press is reporting he's online to be confirmed as the new CIA director very soon still running around in his Air Force uniform.
00:01:28.000And again, he's insisting it is all legal.
00:02:03.000The Senate votes to extend fence along border, but to also give illegal aliens the guest worker program, and to basically legalize all of them, and to give them social security.
00:02:14.000The Border Patrol is reporting that lack of prosecutions of coyotes is demoralizing.
00:02:20.000Only a fraction, a tiny fraction of those caught red-handed smuggling immigrants are ever even charged or prosecuted.
00:02:28.000This out of the San Diego Tribune today.
00:02:32.000Also, Mexicans say nothing will halt illegal trips north that they This is out of the Associated Press.
00:02:41.000It is their mission to reconquer the Southwest.
00:02:44.000And also, Reid calls language proposal racist.
00:02:49.000How dare there be a law saying that English is the language of the United States?
00:02:53.000At the same time, conservative groups are not buying into Bush's Smoke and Mirrors border program, and he has dropped nationally from 29-point approval rating just a week ago to a 28-point approval rating.
00:03:10.000And in key battleground states for Republicans, Like New York, he's fallen to 22% and plunging.
00:03:17.00018% of his Republican stalwart base has deserted him in the last two and a half weeks, and that number is only going downwards.
00:03:27.000So we'll be getting into those poll numbers as well out of the Wall Street Journal.
00:03:31.000We'll get into biometrics, biometric scans for nightclub access.
00:03:36.000China at the same time is moving to have total video surveillance of their major cities.
00:03:44.000We've got a reporter here who went to his big Brookshire Hathaway shareholder meeting over the weekend where he openly talked about America and the dollar plunging and how he's betting against America, moving even more of his $44 billion wealth into the funds they're betting against the dollar.
00:04:05.000Soprano Star says Bush should reinstate the draft.
00:04:08.000That's what I'd expect from a wannabe thug.
00:04:11.000And at the same time, scores killed in Afghan violence.
00:04:15.000Up to 100 people have died in some of Afghan's fiercest fighting since the U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban.
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00:08:01.000From his Central Texas Command Center deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:09.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:16.000In a few minutes we're going to go back and one more time play that classic clip from a few months ago where General Hayden, former head of the National Security Agency, argues with a reporter and tells him that The Fourth Amendment says nothing about probable cause.
00:08:38.000Because General Hayden is now saying it's totally legal for them to spy without warrants, and everything is fine, and he didn't do anything wrong, and of course the Congressional Committee that is on the verge of approving his nomination to be Central Intelligence Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, they totally agree with him, and just everything's basically wonderful because President Bush is above the law, but the American people are not buying it, And Bush's approval ratings continue to plunge and that's good news.
00:09:08.000It means that people have been lied to so many times and have caught this administration in lies so many times that they're not going along with it.
00:09:15.000The problem is that the Democrats and the Republicans have circled the wagons and are moving forward putting in their police state cashless society control grid.
00:09:26.000We'll also get into some of the new Iran developments and we have David Swanson Who leads a major peace organization who went with Cindy Sheehan and former CIA top analyst Ray McGovern to Rumsfeld's house yesterday and protested him and asked him why he lied and why he falsified intelligence.
00:09:46.000So that's coming up in about 23 minutes.
00:09:49.000Right now though there's this little piece done by the cartoonist Mark Fiore, we like to play his pieces occasionally.
00:09:54.000It's not as powerful, obviously, without the animation.
00:09:57.000But you can go to PrisonPlanet.com or InfoWars.com at the bottom of the page in the commentary section and you can actually watch the cartoon for yourself.
00:10:06.000But here's a little happy, cuddly character who is here to convince you that spying is fun and is no big deal and is really just to keep you safe.
00:10:27.000My pal here works with the White House to spy on Americans.
00:10:30.000And now he'd just like to be promoted to head the CIA.
00:10:34.000When people talk, General Hayden listens.
00:10:37.000And that makes me feel snugly and secure.
00:10:41.000Americans just like you are now eligible for government snooping.
00:10:46.000We take hundreds of millions of your phone records and pass them on to our intelligence analysts.
00:10:52.000So we can all be more snugly and secure.
00:10:56.000Not only do your friendly phone companies hand over your private records, some even help us build secret snooping centers right here in San Francisco.
00:11:44.000We're watching you because we love you.
00:11:48.000But, if you go to the border and sit there with a walkie-talkie and call the Border Patrol and you see illegal aliens pouring across, or Mexican troops burning houses, or shooting American citizens, or police, and all of that has happened, we've had the border sheriffs on for you to cover it, and they've tried to keep it quiet in the national media, but it's in the regional media.
00:12:07.000I'm right here in Central Texas, just 150 miles from the border, and let me tell you, it's going on big time.
00:12:16.000And of course they have federal training manuals and state homeland security training manuals.
00:12:20.000Tattle on your neighbors, no matter what they do.
00:12:24.000People that wear blue jeans, people that have cell phones, people that travel with women and children, people that are polite and kind to police.
00:12:30.000Individuals who make frequent references to the U.S.
00:12:46.000They have terror drills where they terrorize the public school students and have the SWAT teams dressed up as fictitious homeschooling groups that are coming to kill them.
00:12:54.000And they have, anytime there's any little incident, they lock down whole city schools and have men aim guns at children, training us all to be good little prisoners.
00:13:03.000Face scanning and thumb scanning is to get driver's license.
00:13:39.000Fourth Amendment of the Constitution specifies that you must have probable cause to be able to do a search that does not violate an American's right against unlawful searches and seizures.
00:13:57.000It protects all of us against unreasonable search and seizure.
00:14:14.000Just to be very clear, okay, and believe me, if there's any amendment to the Constitution that employees of the National Security Agency are familiar with, it's the fourth.
00:14:23.000And it is a reasonable standard in the fourth amendment.
00:14:28.000To quote the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States in its entirety, the one the General and the NSA folks are so familiar with and know is about reasonableness and not about probable cause, quote, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures That's probably the eighth time I've played that, but there's a reason I've done that in the last three months.
00:14:51.000courted by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
00:14:58.000Well, maybe they have a different constitution over there at the NSA.
00:15:02.000That's probably the eighth time I've played that, but there's a reason I've done that in the last three months.
00:15:07.000I mean, this is such an insane illustration, and I actually went to C-SPAN and bought the entire hour and a half speech and questioning, and he says even more ridiculous things.
00:15:20.000to To the reporters and he just lies and lies and lies because now he has contradicted much of what he said in previous testimony to Congress and Congress is on record saying he lied to them last year and he is on record lying to those reporters because he's now contradicted himself in new speeches he's given.
00:15:43.000So what they do is they deny they're spying on you without warrants, then when they get caught they say they're allowed to, and that's what he told Congress again yesterday.
00:15:51.000I have his quotes right here, and this morning it was re-airing on CNN and Fox, and saw him again repeating it, and CNN and Fox are all there telling you everything's okay, General Hayden's only trying to keep you safe from Al Qaeda, And no, it's every phone call made in America, who you call, how long the call's made, the connection that caller has to their entire phone tree, who those people talk to.
00:16:15.000It's all about understanding relationships and the movement of information and what Americans are aware and what Americans will buy into.
00:16:23.000The NSA admittedly samples the political will of the country, engages in its own real scientific polls.
00:16:31.000They have computers that understand whole conversations and then it creates digital psychological algorithms is what they term them.
00:16:40.000It's mainly used, of course, for spying on political movements, political ideas, and stealing different patent secrets or new technological developments.
00:16:49.000Key allied crime corporations that work for the New World Order are given advanced information on their competition.
00:16:57.000Basically, it's just used by the organized global crime syndicate to always have a heads up and always have a head start against the free people of this planet.
00:17:10.000It is a giant snooping system for criminals!
00:17:35.000Our own government, admittedly, for the last year has been telling the Mexican troops, covertly, exactly, under Bush's orders, to tell the Mexican troops exactly where the Minutemen are so they can just Ferry!
00:17:56.000Our government openly wants open borders.
00:17:59.000Bush's approval ratings have fallen through the floor now to 28% and plunging in some states even lower, as low as 22% in New York today.
00:18:08.000And so he's down there at the border yesterday stomping around in the desert and man, he's riding around in armored dune buggies with the border patrol and he's getting tough.
00:18:17.000Maybe he'll put his flight suit on and get in a helicopter and fly around.
00:18:29.000And putting a few thousand troops down there just for a couple months.
00:18:32.000This is on record with the total guest worker program that legalizes all illegal aliens that are in this country and anyone who can get here for six years.
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00:23:02.000Alex Jones here with an important question.
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00:24:52.000But, and then they throw us a bone and claim troops on the border, which again they say is just for a few months.
00:24:59.000I want to get into this and Hayden and the rest of it, but Tim in New York I'm told disagrees with us, and told the folks that answer the phone, we don't spring calls, but you can volunteer if you'd like, that's why I know, that I've got the Fourth Amendment wrong.
00:25:15.000Okay, Tim, go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong.
00:25:19.000Well, if you read this, as you get through it says, searches and seizures shall not be violated, and it says, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause.
00:25:31.000Well, what they're doing is saying probable cause doesn't go to the first part of it.
00:25:38.000That is not the case, sir, and that's what they do with the Second Amendment.
00:25:41.000They claim that it's divided up and that it's well-regulated militia, and then try to claim there's no independent right to own guns when all the founding fathers, all the Federalist Papers, all of the precedent, all of the case law, all of the laws state that we have an inherent, organic, individual right to keep and bear arms, sir.
00:26:27.000We showed martial law this past Tuesday.
00:26:29.000We had 125 people in Rochester, New York.
00:26:33.000Tremendous turnout and I'd like to know when your next one's going to be released because we want to show that as soon as possible.
00:26:40.000Well, it's going to be ready by late June.
00:26:43.000We are going to screen it for the first time in late June in Los Angeles at our huge 9-11 conference we're having the 24th and 25th in downtown LA.
00:26:53.000And then when I get back, we're going to send it off to be mastered and be mass-manufactured.
00:26:57.000So, it won't be available until... I want to have pre-orders start July 1st, and then it should ship out by mid-July.
00:27:08.000And so the new film, Terror Storm, will be available in mid-July and will be up on PrisonPlanet.tv for viewers as well, sir.
00:27:15.000Well, we want to get that and show it in Rochester, New York as soon as possible.
00:27:22.000Yeah, I have the Fourth Amendment here in front of me, and we've already read it, and we've already played it several times today, so I'm not going to go over it again.
00:27:44.000We know we have the federal laws, the state laws, on top of the Bill of Rights, and Bush can claim that he's allowed to order torture.
00:27:54.000Bush can claim he's allowed to have no-bid contracts given to his friends.
00:27:58.000Bush can claim that he's allowed to order the Border Patrol in the past to not interdict illegal aliens.
00:28:05.000It's all criminal, and he's not allowed to do it.
00:28:08.000And I personally am sick and tired of it.
00:28:10.000I don't know about you, but so many people have been fooled.
00:28:14.000We're about to go to break and come back with a guest, but after the guest leaves us, the guest is just on for one segment, I'm going to get into detail of the new legislation that the Senate has passed That the House is set to pass, that it's set to go to Bush's desk.
00:28:32.000They'll deceive just enough Americans to get this passed.
00:28:37.000And you will have 25 million illegal aliens instantly become legal.
00:28:45.000And within four years they can all become citizens.
00:28:48.000And the Border Patrol and state agencies, state sheriffs have reported in Texas and Arizona and Southern California and New Mexico record numbers.
00:28:58.000They've never, sheriffs who've been down there 25 years, have never seen this number of illegals.
00:29:03.000They are pouring in, they are waving their Mexican flags, they are saying this is Mexico, they're saying nothing will stop them, they're saying your fences won't stop us, because they know they're backed up by our government and by their government.
00:29:18.000And so the Glenn Becks, and that's why I hate these people.
00:29:32.000The blood of this country is spilling out in gouts.
00:29:37.000And a bunch of fake New World Order people are posing as conservatives, and they're going to fool a bunch of the idiots that want to love George Bush.
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00:33:25.000All over the country, concerned Americans, liberals, conservatives, progressives, libertarians, whatever name you want to put on them, Green Party activists, have been going to governors and congressmen in women's homes, they've been going to Rumsfeld's house, back when Poindexter, the convicted felon, was running the Total Information Awareness Network.
00:33:44.000Remember when they were arrogant and thought they had us all convinced when they had 85% approval ratings?
00:33:49.000They were, yes, every credit card purchase, everything you buy, everything you do is being put in a grand database.
00:33:58.000That was all for your own good, and the liberals were all for it, along with the neocons.
00:34:04.000Well, now they're trying to lie about all that.
00:34:06.000But even more importantly, Rumsfeld manufactured evidence.
00:34:10.000We have the White House memos, the Downing Street memos.
00:34:13.000They created a special office in the Pentagon to do it.
00:34:16.000We have their own minutes where they said, we're going to lie, we're going to manufacture evidence.
00:34:21.000Very serious crimes to take us to war.
00:34:24.000200,000 Iraqis, conservatively dead now in the last three plus years, what, three years, two months, since the, quote, liberation and mission accomplished.
00:35:16.000So kind of go over why you guys are going to protest Rumsfeld and why you've been, I guess, pioneering this type of activism, sir.
00:35:25.000Well, Rumsfeld, as well as Bush and Cheney and Condi and other members of the administration told numerous blatant lies in the lead-up to the war on Iraq.
00:35:38.000And as you said, this was not a mistake.
00:35:40.000They didn't think there really were weapons and they were disappointed to find there weren't.
00:35:45.000They made a conscientious effort to defraud the American public and the Congress and the United Nations.
00:35:53.000And pretend that there were weapons and that there were ties between Saddam Hussein and 9-11.
00:35:58.000And there is a link on our website after DowningStreet.org to a database that a Congress member has set up that lists the lies by the various administration officials by category, by who said them, and there are 50-some lies by Donald Rumsfeld in the lead-up to the war, including stating with absolute certainty That there was a nuclear weapons program, that there were chemical weapons, that there were biological weapons, that there were ties to Al-Qaeda, and so forth.
00:36:28.000He knew these things to be false, but he claimed with absolute certainty to know where the weapons were.
00:36:35.000And so, the media's not doing the best job, as you know, on calling him and others on this, so we're trying to do our part.
00:36:44.000I want to play about a three-minute clip of two weeks ago, where Ray McGovern, high-level CIA analyst for 27 years, confronts Rumsfeld, and then Rumsfeld lies, like no one else I know in this administration, and that's quite an accomplishment, and says he never said that.
00:38:50.000So, and there's Ray McGovern saying this is America because security was starting to grab him and Rumsfeld knew it would look bad and so he told him to wait a minute.
00:38:59.000Then the mainstream media attacked McGovern instead of attacking Rumsfeld's new live.
00:39:07.000Yeah, and Ray McGovern is not just an activist, and he was not screeching at Rumsfeld, he was speaking quite politely, but directly, in the way a good reporter should, but no reporter has yet to do.
00:39:25.000He's resigned, he's turned in his lifetime award, he doesn't want to be associated with an organization that tortures, and he's devoting every waking moment We're trying to end this war and reform this government and impeach this President and Vice President.
00:39:41.000And Ray was with us yesterday for a number of events in Washington, D.C.
00:39:47.000Tell us about the protest there at Lord Rumsfeld's home.
00:39:51.000Well, we started out at the White House, at George W.' 's house, although he had run down to the Mexican border for the day.
00:39:57.000We had a huge crowd there and we had a petition signed by 43,000 people opposing attacking Iran because they are putting out identical lies and myths to generate a war against Iran now and Cindy Sheehan and Ray McGovern and others led us in delivering all of those signatures and comments to the gate of the White House and then we turned around and marched Through Washington, D.C.
00:40:50.000The police officers have really learned how these things work and how the media works, and they were very reluctant to arrest anybody.
00:40:59.000So we were all willing to be arrested, and Cindy Sheehan and Ray McGovern and the leaders of various organizations, especially Code Pink, were there to protest, to try to deliver a letter, to try to knock on his door, and the police were blocking us but would not arrest us.
00:41:19.000And, uh, we lay down on the sidewalk, we blocked the street, we did everything we could.
00:41:23.000Uh, eventually, four people had to, uh, jump through the bushes and run for his front door, through his little front yard, uh, and be tackled and handcuffed, uh, before they would arrest anyone.
00:41:36.000Uh, by which point, much of the media had left.
00:41:39.000Um, they had these very interesting arguments with the network producers there, um, Asking us when are people going to get arrested, and we telling them it's up to the police and so forth.
00:41:51.000They are willing, if it's colorful enough, to cover people being arrested, but they have no interest.
00:41:58.000The only message they want to send is protesters are criminal, they're nuts, they're fringe, they're out of control, that's the only time they cover demonstrations.
00:42:07.000That's right, and they do not want to air The speeches that these people made at the White House, they do not want to air our concerns or the evidence or draw their own conclusions about whether Mr. Rumsfeld is a hero or a war criminal.
00:42:23.000And this is the state of our public communication system today.
00:42:28.000I'm sure you've seen these disgusting hour-long puff pieces by Fox News where they go, the The leader, the man of honor, the sexiest man on earth!
00:42:46.000This is a guy who has sanctioned torture, who has sanctioned detentions without charge, who has sanctioned war crimes, the dumping of white phosphorus on civilians.
00:42:56.000These are Nazi-istic crimes, and the media is playing along.
00:43:01.000And some portion of the American public is as well.
00:43:04.000The people in that room where Ray McGovern spoke and confronted Rumsfeld, were on Rumsfeld's side and wanted Ray silenced.
00:43:15.000You can hear one guy yell, you can hear one person say, WE DON'T WANNA HEAR IT!
00:43:20.000In fact, a lot of neocons, this is in my upcoming film, Terror Storm, Yeah, it's remarkable.
00:43:25.000Their heroes admit that nothing of the sort is true.
00:43:27.000they will get mad and say WMDs were found, even when their masters are admitting that they lied or admitting that they were wrong, they still claim WMDs were found.
00:43:37.000That's kind of an urban legend propagated by the Limbaugh's and the Glenn Beck's of the world.
00:43:44.000Their heroes admit that nothing of the sort is true.
00:43:47.000The Bush administration admits that nothing was found, that there were no ties to 9-11, although Rumsfeld tried in the conversation with Ray McGovern to still claim a tie between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, which Ray was quite abrupt in cutting him off on as which Ray was quite abrupt in cutting him off on as blatantly But yeah, this stuff is still out there, but every day fewer Americans buy it, and the vast majority of Americans now
00:44:20.000You're right, and Bush's approval ratings have fallen now close to the mid-20s, 28% nationally, 22% in no other states like New York.
00:44:34.000No president that I know of has ever had numbers this low, and of course we know it's because the people have caught him in so many lies, they don't believe anything now.
00:44:43.000Right, the Harris poll earlier this week had 71% disapproval, 29% approval.
00:44:50.000Harris is a little different from some of the other polls that have him in the low 30s, but he's at or close to setting a record in every poll, topping Nixon, topping Truman for dislike among the public.
00:45:06.000And it's not just Democrats and Independents, it's many, many Republicans.
00:45:11.000And so you have a president who's absolutely despised and whose vice president's popularity is about half his own.
00:45:57.000Well, I'm promoting the campaign that my friend and fellow labor activist, Jonathan Ticini, is running to challenge her in the primary.
00:46:05.000I mean, here in Ticini, you have a Democrat who stands for workers' rights, peace, education, stopping the war, taking that hundreds of billions of dollars and putting it to some good use, taxing billionaires rather than working people.
00:46:22.000Here's a Democrat with democratic values challenging A Senator who, to all appearances, is a Republican.
00:46:29.000Well, I mean, we've known for four years that every week she has two to five hour meetings, depending on what paper you read.
00:46:36.000The Observer says four hour secret dinner meetings with Roger Ailes, the head of Fox and the owner of Fox, Rupert Murdoch.
00:46:45.000Clinton, Bill Clinton, is off on vacation with the Bushes.
00:47:06.000She is for increasing the war, not ending it.
00:47:09.000Well, isn't that really the problem, is the same global corporate interest?
00:47:13.000That are breaking down this country right now own both the parties and it doesn't matter if 70% of Americans don't want the war, 70% of the groups don't want the war, it doesn't matter if 97% don't want electronic toll roads, it doesn't matter if 97% don't like the electronic voting machines clearly stealing elections, they don't care they just keep steamrolling forward!
00:47:37.000Which is one reason why I think the bright line we really have to draw, and what we're going to support and what we're not, is impeachment.
00:47:45.000Because Congress could end the war, and the war would as likely as not end.
00:47:50.000This is an administration that openly ignores acts of Congress.
00:47:57.000And so, if we can impeach and remove from office this President and Vice President, and the Secretary of War, We have a chance at restoring not just peace in the world, but democracy in this country.
00:48:12.000And it's not to say that the Democrats are great and that's part of impeaching a Republican leader.
00:48:19.000No, we have to take out the people at the top, but it's not to excuse any Republicans or Democrats who've been supporting them.
00:48:27.000And in fact, in pushing impeachment, we get accused of Revenge for Clinton.
00:48:32.000Well, I wanted Clinton impeached, not for sex, but for some good reasons.
00:48:36.000And those on the left who are pushing impeachment of Bush and Cheney openly and courageously, we're not fans of Clinton.
00:48:44.000The ones who are fans of Clinton, including his wife, are strongly against impeachment.
00:48:50.000The criminal corporate interests that are not free market But going back here, Congressman Ron Paul, with the most conservative voting record in Congress, can't call him a liberal.
00:49:26.000Ron Paul is a Republican Congressmember, and he's turned around on the question of the war.
00:49:32.000He's willing to challenge the President somewhat.
00:49:34.000He has not signed on to Congressman John Conyers' bill, House Resolution 635, which does not call for impeachment.
00:49:43.000It calls for an impeachment investigation.
00:49:45.000It calls for an investigation into whether there are grounds for impeachment.
00:49:49.000So this is a step back even from impeachment, which is only an indictment.
00:49:52.000You impeach and then you have the trial.
00:49:54.000We also have other Democrats who are running around saying, let's hold off on impeachment.
00:50:01.000They are, including the so-called leadership, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, and others.
00:50:05.000They're arguing that we should focus on the election and then go to impeachment, because they think only in defensive terms.
00:50:13.000If the Democrats all lined up on impeachment, The pressure would be on Republicans in moderate districts to come around and put the Constitution ahead of the guy occupying the White House.
00:50:23.000Look, the left hand washes the right hand, the right hand washes the left hand.
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00:55:12.000Well, the non-violent way that we can stop them and restore the rule of law and restore checks and balances and democracy is to impeach them, convict them, and remove them from office.
00:55:23.000And that doesn't interfere with later or simultaneous criminal prosecution.
00:55:28.000If people come to afterdowningstreet.org, and there's a link to it, I'm sure, at infowars.com, you can do a couple of things.
00:55:37.000You can help push your Congress member to get on John Conyers' bill for an investigation.
00:55:42.000And you can help push your town or city or state to pass a resolution for impeachment of Orson Chaney.
00:55:48.000And we have Vermont and other states very close to that, don't we?
00:55:52.000Vermont, California, and Illinois legislatures have seen these resolutions introduced.
00:55:57.000California's has made it past an initial committee stage.
00:56:01.000It remains to be seen which states, if any, will pass the resolutions.
00:56:06.000And so that's the project we're working on.
00:56:41.000750 plus laws the President has written a signing statement, so he signs the bill into law, he's never vetoed a single bill, but writes a statement saying, I disagree with this law, here's what it really means.
00:56:51.000And that's not law, that's what a dictator does!
00:56:54.000Absolutely, or a unitary executive, as they've renamed dictatorship, but that's what they are claiming the power to do, and for the most part, Congress is rolling over.
00:57:04.000Sir, I commend you and your work at RedoundingStreet.org.
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00:58:29.000I mean we're still like What, 30-something days out from this thing?
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00:59:53.000And he'll be joining us coming up after this first break.
00:59:56.000Later in the show, we're going to open the phones up, of course, and I'm just hopping mad.
01:00:01.000It's hard to track the legislation they pass through the Senate before they pass it, because the Blanket Amnesty Border Reform Plan is having writers and being rewritten by the minute.
01:00:15.000But I did get, this morning, what the Senate passed last night.
01:00:19.000And I did spend about 45 minutes scanning over the legislation, and then sure enough went to my cheat sheet.
01:00:25.000There were a few mainstream news articles that admitted what indeed was in the bill, and I did find those subsections.
01:00:31.000It is total, absolute, complete, blanket amnesty.
01:00:39.000It won't matter if they put troops on the border, because these people will no longer be illegal.
01:00:43.000Corporations can sign up hundreds of thousands of people a month that they want and drive them across on buses because they quote, have jobs waiting for them, unskilled and skilled.
01:00:54.000There's a proviso in there that actually has a trap door in it and that's in the legislation that okay, if you're a felon, then you can't seek to get amnesty.
01:01:03.000But, it says if there's a hardship, if you've got any family in this country, or a sick family, wherever in Mexico, and you needed the money, it's okay, we'll waive it.
01:01:13.000So there's nothing, and even Bush's troops on the border, he admits, will be two months while they quote, get more funding for the Border Patrol to put 2,000 more Border Patrol agents in.
01:01:23.000We lost 2,000 Border Patrol agents in Texas alone after 9-11 because they got starting pay increases of up from what, $38,000 a year for a new Border Patrol agent to over $57,000 a year.
01:01:38.000I forget the exact numbers, like a $24,000 increase to start.
01:01:41.000So they all left to become air marshals and sit around on airplanes instead of just arming the pilots.
01:01:47.000If you believe the stupid official 9-11 story, the fable.
01:01:52.000It is so frustrating to know it is all a stinking lie!
01:01:58.000And at the TV station on Wednesday night and on the street last night, I was walking into a restaurant to meet my wife and kids for dinner.
01:02:05.000And people walk up to me and go, Alex, Bush is getting better.
01:02:09.000Some guy in a pickup truck on the side of the street the day before that.
01:02:14.000I've had, what, three people going, Bush is getting tough, and I'm getting your emails, and I'm telling you what, I can't hardly help but throw up on them.
01:03:47.000And the average conservative is just in Walla Land worshipping Bush.
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01:06:59.000Oh, you've got to love these absent-minded professors.
01:07:09.000Professor Black will be joining us in the next hour to talk about the best way to rob a bank is to own one, getting into how these corporate crime syndicates work with the government to loot.
01:07:19.000The economy and then have the American people fit the bill for it.
01:07:43.000And the websites are jonesreport.com, infowars.net, prisonplanet.tv, prisonplanet.com, infowars.com, martiallaw911.info, and several others.
01:07:54.000We're in the process of launching And they all have basically the same information on them, but each site every day has something a little different.
01:08:01.000Two or three different little articles or videos or key information for you.
01:08:05.000And this way we have more flagships out there in the fight against the globalists.
01:08:09.000And to show you how effective our message has gotten, one of my websites, PrisonPlanet.com, is very close to getting as much traffic every day as RushLimbaugh.com.
01:08:23.000You can go to Alexa.com and other places, web ratings, traffic ports, and they will tell you exactly how many visitors you get.
01:08:31.000One of my sites, on a routine basis, is bigger, but in an average year, it's about, what, 5,000, Limbaugh's about 4,000.
01:08:40.000We are very close to overtaking him, the biggest radio talk show host site in the country.
01:08:47.000To give you an idea, the Dallas Morning News is rated at about 4,500, so Limbaugh's bigger than them.
01:08:52.000One of my sites will soon eclipse Rush Limbaugh.
01:08:57.000You guys can sit there and spout your propaganda and spout your phony conservatism and try to sell conservatives out and try to neutralize conservatives and pacify us.
01:10:14.000The second thing is I wanted to personally pick up the challenge of getting off my behind and doing something.
01:10:21.000What I want to do is provide $500 of free web service, kind of like make a blog, preferably for veterans or homeschoolers or just truth moving.
01:10:31.000is moving and just whatever means to winnow that out, but whoever gets the service, I would just want them to donate to a charitable organization that actually works. Well, I would just tell you, sir, and I appreciate the call, when you're starting websites, to just start them, start your own site, start your own news site, and then find like-minded people out there and offer them space on your site for organizations and groups.
01:11:00.000So many people spend time trying to think about the organization of something instead of just launching it.
01:11:04.000So much of life is just getting on the field.
01:11:07.000You'll get run over the first few times, but so what?
01:11:10.000Getting in the game, off the bleachers, and it sounds like you're doing that.
01:11:33.000Was it basically everything that you say was in the paper?
01:11:36.000Yes, they quoted my research and others' research.
01:11:40.000Dylan Avery's Von Kleist Research and they just went over unanswered questions and it was a serious hard-hitting article that wasn't debunking us but that was admitting the government's official story is a fraud and the name of the article, the title of the article was Staring at the Sun.
01:12:13.000Yeah, I sent you that article the other day about somebody was, you know, stopped and said, you know, can we get directions on how to get to I-95?
01:12:21.000You're like, no, we'll just arrest you and haul you off to jail.
01:12:25.000But last night we had a homicide in the neighborhood.
01:13:21.000But it's just weird that the damage on the pole was like 15 feet off the ground.
01:13:26.000And then they came out and put a new pole in.
01:13:28.000And within 5 or 6 hours they had a new pole in.
01:13:30.000Sometimes what happens if a pole gets hit down low and the car bounces off, it causes a split where it hit, but the split then 15 feet up because of the weight of the pole above it, that's where it has enough force to break off, that's where the juncture of the weight causes the split to take place.
01:13:48.000We got photos I sent you, there was no split where it was hit, and also woke up 6 o'clock, 5 o'clock, no power, and once again police helicopters over the house and everybody thinks that this Police state thing is a joke.
01:13:59.000It's normal to have police helicopters fly over your house 15 times a day.
01:14:04.000Oh, here in Austin, every week you get your visit.
01:14:06.000They hover over your house, but I'm not alone.
01:14:09.000They move on to the neighbor in the next house, and they've got scanners scanning your home, and the Army nationwide is giving big police departments, not just infrared that looks through your walls with a fuzzy image, but high-quality, ground-penetrating radar where they get black and white images of you in the bathroom, in bed with your wife, at the table eating Cheerios.
01:14:52.000In the dream, uh, things got so bad that, uh, communities were surrounded with giant-sized box fences to protect themselves from I got to let you go.
01:15:09.000I just can't do this to the listeners, sir.
01:15:28.000I have seen people out there take what somebody dreams as more important than... Let's say somebody has a dream where they envision concentration camps.
01:15:38.000The person travels the country giving big speeches, people paying $100 a pop.
01:15:44.000Then we have the Houston Chronicle openly talking about camps and how they're good for us, and the average patriot isn't even aware of it.
01:15:50.000But at the same time, I talk about dreams.
01:15:54.000About ten years ago, It may have even been longer than that, probably twelve years ago before I even got into this movement and got on the air.
01:16:04.000Well, to be accurate, I was politically involved fourteen years ago, got on the air about eleven and a half years ago.
01:16:27.000And you're driving into Fredericksburg, and there are Mexican troops with some other type of white European troops searching all of the cars.
01:16:37.000And in the dream, I've got a family with me.
01:16:40.000Now, I didn't know my wife then, I didn't have children with me, you know, in the dream.
01:16:44.000And it was one of those dreams where you wake up sweating.
01:16:46.000It was like, man, that dream was important.
01:16:48.000I've had very few of those, and frankly, The few I've had have come true.
01:17:09.000You want to talk about dreams though, And in the dream, it's a checkpoint, I can't get out of it, and the car's rolling to a stop, I'm stepping out with an assault rifle in my hand, and then I wake up from the dream.
01:17:23.000I mean, I know this is the enemy, I know I can't let them get my family, and the car's rolling to a stop, I'm pushing the door out in front of me, I'm bringing up an HK-91.
01:18:41.000Let's not let it come true, ladies and gentlemen.
01:18:44.000Because in that dream, I was raising that weapon to engage that enemy.
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01:23:15.000I don't know if it's really going to happen, but they've signed the agreements, the training is happening, they're admitting it's for domestic operations, and then I have two different border sheriffs on on Monday, remember?
01:23:27.000And one of them down there in Laredo admits that they videotaped, this has been on the web, Chinese troops, They found their patches as well.
01:25:20.000First one is over at, what is it, loosechange911.com.
01:25:25.000If you click on forum site, and you go to like the user's lounge, you can find an entry that says this, and I wanted to get your comment on this.
01:25:34.000There's a 1967 audio recording that will blow your mind.
01:25:38.000It's as if everything we're experiencing today has happened before.
01:25:42.0001967 but got erased from the collective conscious what Myron Fagan born 1887 died 1972 talks about 40 years ago is like a rift in the matrix like the Alex Jones of his time only ten times more profound ever heard of Fagan yes we I've heard that the famous Illuminati album he put out Anthony Hilder produced it and we have played clips of it here on air
01:26:08.000Why don't you send me the link to that, and we'll put a link up to it on InfoWars.com.
01:27:38.000It is public, it's been public, that every communication is routed through the NSA.
01:27:43.000Starting in 1996, they put the hubs in.
01:27:46.000Every phone company, every company, by law, has been paid to do it, by the way, because they said, well, how can it be a law if we have to pay for it?
01:27:53.000So the government puts its own offices with NSA officers in every major company.
01:27:58.000And now that's come out in, you know, the AT&T in San Francisco, with a whole floor of the building basically NSA.
01:28:06.000Again, that's why when Hayden gets up there and says, we're just listening to foreign Al-Qaeda calls, it's total bull!
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01:32:05.000Thank you so much for riding shotgun today with us.
01:32:09.000As we attempt to defend the Republic from enemies foreign and domestic, as we expose the globalist slave grid that's being put in.
01:32:20.000Now, in 1996, a Telecommunications Act was passed.
01:32:24.000Nine billion dollars was supposed to be six, by 2000 it was nine billion, and I haven't looked at cost overruns since.
01:32:31.000Every telecommunications company, every satellite company, every grid where communications are routed, faxes, emails, phone calls, everything is wired through it.
01:32:41.000A similar law was passed in 1996 that every AM and FM radio station in the country I had to have all the boards and all the wiring finally go into this final piece of equipment, the EAS system, for quote emergency alerts.
01:32:56.000The official telecommunications plan, I had FCC lawyers on this show, both retired and current.
01:33:05.000And they said that, yes, the plan since the mid-eighties would be the government will end up having about one hour of programming a day, and they will break in whenever they wish.
01:34:12.000Your TiVo systems build psychological algorithms.
01:34:16.000They have different psychological tests they give you when you're going to the CIA, you're going to be a cop, or you're going to work as an executive at a corporation.
01:34:22.000It's a 600 and something question test that tries to catch you in lies.
01:34:27.000Well, they have said that actually watching your TV viewing habits and scoring different parts of TV shows and even national commercials, they all have a psychological score number and it's a very complex computer system that then calculates all this.
01:34:39.000They get your total psychological makeup.
01:34:42.000They can then use that for general propaganda uses against certain sectors of the society or entire regions.
01:34:47.000They then get to personally have a giant file on you And I remember reading about this in industry publications eight years ago.
01:34:54.000Now it's been in the Chicago Tribune, USA Today, you name it.
01:34:57.000Every time you call to order a pizza from one of the major chains, they're getting 20% of any fees or fines from your arrest or any awards.
01:35:05.000A Dallas private company that's a known NSA front, run by the former number two man at the NSA, runs the entire system.
01:35:12.000When you order a pizza, they run a background check on you and call the police.
01:35:17.000Meanwhile, Hayden, is up on TV saying they just intercepted calls from Al Qaeda and then you find out it's really everybody's phone calls and it's all a total lie!
01:35:32.000The NSA flagged hundreds of communications.
01:35:35.000We've interviewed some of the people that looked at those communications, and it was our government dealing drugs, our government in white slavery, our government selling rockets, and missile parts, and nuclear weapons parts, okay?
01:35:48.000Our government controlling Al-Qaeda, our government controlling murder squads and organized crime worldwide.
01:37:17.000We were preparing for Y2K, etc., etc., etc.
01:37:19.000So, you know, I was part of a team that actually mapped out the network, and what we did, we didn't know we weren't supposed to do this.
01:37:27.000We actually started looking at the transport systems outside of the network, and what we discovered is that there were tunnels to NSA-related equipment.
01:37:36.000We looked them up, and what we did is we put a sniffer on the piece of equipment that was communicating back and forth, and this was outside the firewall.
01:37:47.000What that does is chronicle the movement when info is being accessed.
01:38:24.000This was actually in industry publications at the time, and that's what I mainly read.
01:38:29.000Y2K was several things, and it was the government, it was the Naval report that caused the fear.
01:38:38.000The government tried to blame the media after it didn't happen.
01:38:40.000Within six months of it happening, I thought the whole thing was a fraud and a shut-up.
01:38:44.000Of course, I got criticized by people who were out there profiteering from it.
01:38:49.000But it was an excuse at the local level to put in FEMA command bunkers and emergency management centers for federal control of future emergencies they would create.
01:38:57.000The big building 7, the 9-11 command base, where they carried out that attack and the rest of it a year later.
01:39:05.000But Y2K was also a smokescreen for all this NSA equipment to finally be put in and completed in late 1999.
01:39:18.000Talking about foreign troops and the takeover of America, here's a little video game commercial.
01:39:23.000Shattered Union, where they, uh, and there's hundreds of games I've seen like this, where UN troops take over America.
01:39:29.000I don't think, I don't think there are many video games about warfare in the U.S.
01:39:32.000that aren't about the UN coming in and taking over.
01:39:35.000Let's roll this and then we'll go into the news and Warrior Calls.
01:39:38.000Following a disputed election and a tie vote, The U.S.
01:39:42.000Congress installs the most unpopular president in U.S.
01:39:45.000history as David Jefferson Adams becomes the 44th president of the United States.
01:39:51.000Shortly after the election, increased unrest, rioting, and a growing number of militias have given rise to ever-increasing domestic terrorism.
01:40:00.000In response, the president invokes the Homeland Security Act and declares martial law on the West Coast and other areas of the country.
01:40:08.000Though highly contested, a Supreme Court ruling sidesteps the electoral process, disqualifying popular presidential candidates from several states.
01:40:18.000Public outrage explodes when a sham election leads to incumbent David Adams accepting a second term in office.
01:40:27.000During the 57th Inauguration Day ceremonies, Washington D.C.
01:40:31.000is struck by a low-yield nuclear weapon, killing David Adams and most of the U.S.
01:41:44.000That's even more powerful when you watch the video.
01:41:47.000The globalists basically like to have the equivalent of a heart plug.
01:41:51.000You ever seen that movie Dune where the evil baron Vladimir Harkonnen has a little plug he pulls out of somebody's chest and it opens up their carotid artery or I guess that would be there.
01:42:01.000What's the big, those carotids are in the neck, what's the big one that's on the top of the heart?
01:42:06.000It'll pop in my head in a moment, doesn't matter.
01:42:13.000America has been fitted with a heart plug.
01:42:16.000The globalists can punch a button and nukes will go off.
01:42:18.000They can punch a button and aircraft pilots will get in their helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft and take off, thinking they're doing one more bacterial test.
01:42:27.000They'll really be spraying a deadly bioweapon or nerve gas.
01:43:06.000These Lexus driving spoiled brat yuppies will come into frothing demons that'll sell you and your family out for a Tim badge as a homeland security block chief just to get more food.
01:43:18.000I'm sorry to have to get like this sometimes, but this is what's really going on.
01:44:39.000And also I was thinking maybe you could sell a blank DVDs on your site, because I know a lot of people have trouble finding the longer DVDs.
01:44:47.000I think because if you buy like, I think it's like, all I could find was like the least like $100 for like $200 or something.
01:44:55.000Yeah, no, the bigger DVDs that you can copy a three-hour film onto are available at most Office Max's or CompUSA's and they're not that expensive, no.
01:45:55.000It's just, it's so incredible to just, uh, I mean, he sees some show about the Bilderberg Group on Discovery Channel, and it looks, it's a guy with dark hair.
01:46:56.000This fellow or one of his other co-workers you might have on sometime, do things that different nations are going through in Africa.
01:47:05.000It's kind of what we're heading to and the whole world is heading to, but some intense suffering and what these brothers have been through, and especially the people that live in these different lands.
01:47:16.000He's got a number of different books like Putting Feet to Your Faith.
01:47:21.000He exposed, I mean, on the front line of what went on in Rwanda and Sudan and Mozambique, the killing fields and everything.
01:47:29.000I think he'd be excellent to have on, and how he's handled these things and how local people have handled them, you know, with the grace of the Lord in their hearts.
01:47:37.000No, that's, yeah, people who've been through a New World Order operation, and the Globalists have openly orchestrated all this stuff.
01:47:45.000Send me a copy of one of the books, or send me some contact info.
01:47:47.000Okay, there's another website, I don't know if you're familiar with Voice of the Martyrs, They're in Oklahoma.
01:47:54.000They've got Persecution.com and Persecution.org is another ministry, a third ministry there.
01:48:00.000And preparing spiritually, you know, the main battle is for our mind and soul, you know.
01:48:05.000And what we're looking at is this global beast system, just like with your Bohemian Grove research.
01:48:11.000Satanic religion, to one degree or another, is at the core of this, and that's the ultimate battle.
01:48:18.000And preparing our minds, and that's where we live at.
01:48:24.000Keep up the good work and the Lord's grace be with you.
01:48:28.000Thank you, I really appreciate your call.
01:48:30.000We're going to come back and I'm going to get into immigration.
01:48:32.000I'm going to try to calmly and cogently go through what this new legislation really does and how they're staging it to have the illegals protest Bush when he openly controls them through a PR firm.
01:48:43.000He controls the predominant groups, the majority of them.
01:48:47.000And how that's supposed to make us then think Bush is good because the illegals are protesting him.
01:48:57.000You know, the con artists get together, and the woman acts like she's been beat up by her boyfriend, and then you come to help her, or she acts like she's broke down on the side of the road, and you come to help her, and they mug you.
01:49:08.000It's just, they're lying in wait for us, scamming us, and just laughing at us.
01:49:17.000I get upset about this because I've done the cold, hard research.
01:49:21.000This is what I do, hours and hours and hours every day, and I cannot articulate clearly enough, or properly, how evil the New World Order is, how out of control they are.
01:49:34.000In fact, later in the next hour, I may just cut our guest a little bit short next hour, because I want to have some time to talk about what life under the New World Order will be like.
01:49:42.000And I want you to remember this broadcast many years from now.
01:49:46.000Alright, we'll be right back with a lot of other news, your calls, and so much more.
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01:53:11.000Anyone who's here for the next six years is legal.
01:53:13.000Anyone who can get here in the next six years is legal.
01:53:16.000It allows corporations to fly in or bus in unlimited skilled and unskilled workers.
01:53:21.000I mean, you thought the special visas for skilled workers had decimated our jobs.
01:53:25.000Just wait for this from India and China and elsewhere.
01:53:30.000Then on top of it, they added little provisos in there to fool the public.
01:53:34.000And you'll hear the neocons pushing this on the radio.
01:53:36.000Dick Cheney building on Limbaugh and others.
01:53:38.000There's a little proviso that if you're a felon that you don't get the citizenship, you don't get to stay here, but then they added a trap door in it, or an escape route, and it says, well, there's a hardship, you've got family here, or a bunch of other issues, you get to stay.
01:53:53.000They're going to have the immigrants groups, just like they did in 86.
01:53:57.000Run the Amnesty program outsourced by the government.
01:54:00.000Tens of millions of course will line up.
01:54:02.000It will accelerate tens of millions more.
01:54:04.000The Border Patrol has already reported record levels coming in all over the southwest 2,200 plus mile border.
01:54:11.000Bush hired a PR firm with Vicente Fox, the same firm that ran both their elections and Bush's gubernatorial election.
01:54:18.000To stage all these demonstrations and to mobilize the illegal aliens as a fifth column that they can use to bully the American people.
01:54:24.000Notice they always give them positive coverage in the press.
01:54:27.000Any other demonstration gets negative coverage, whether it's anti-war or property rights.
01:54:31.000They want to discourage Americans demonstrating, but want to promote the illegals demonstrating.
01:54:37.000The media covers up the marches that are officially called the Day Without Gringos.
01:54:40.000They call it the Day Without Immigrants, but the AP got it right.
01:54:44.000They then have the very groups they control go demonstrate against this legislation that Bush is pushing to make it look like it must be good to fool conservatives.
01:54:58.000But by the time the average American reads the news, here's New York Times, Senate votes to extend a fence along border.
01:55:05.000Boy, they're getting tough, and it says George Bush has gotten tough responding to his conservative base.
01:55:10.000Several hundred miles of fences to be built, and more border patrol, and 6,000 troops in the interim.
01:55:15.000But the troops, as we told you before we ever made the speech, are for security just to report to Border Patrol.
01:55:20.000There's so many illegal aliens, 50,000 Border Patrol couldn't arrest them all.
01:55:24.000They could arrest 1,000 illegals every day, 365 days a year.
01:55:27.000It'd be less than 1% of the 25 million that are here, with another 3 million coming into the country each year with only a million that go back home.
01:55:33.000That's a net increase of over 2 million a year, plus 900 and something thousand legal immigrants every year.
01:55:41.000It goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on.
01:55:51.000And then you read in the article it goes, some Republicans don't like it though, they say it's not tough enough.
01:55:57.000Total smoke and mirrors, total lies, I mean the very definition of it.
01:56:04.000And so that's what's really happening here.
01:56:05.000We'll go to break, start the next hour, go to a few calls, and we've got a guest coming up, but Walton, Kansas City, and others, we're going to go to you first.
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02:00:37.000Well, God bless you for doing the hard work.
02:00:39.000And Joshua, my son, my youngest boy, he's now 14, he's very instrumental because I'm often busy with folks, and when they ask him about them, oh, he tells them, he goes right into them, and he's seen them all.
02:00:55.000And I'll tell you what, one thing I want everybody to do, because I remember your interview with Walter Burien, everybody needs to get on their local people, about these comprehensive annual financial reports and save all of us some money.
02:01:11.000But they won't do it, but at least let them know that we know about your secret stash there, buddy.
02:01:54.000The first time was actually before the war.
02:01:56.000Remember I called you and told you in December of 2000 they took all that stuff over and buried it in the caves in Kuwait?
02:02:04.000And then he went back to Iraq, and now he's back again.
02:02:08.000And, uh, I tell ya, I am scared to death for his safety, and, uh, everybody out there who prays, please pray for my son George's, uh, safe return home to his beautiful white family.
02:05:56.000We've got Professor William K. Black on with us, Associate Professor of Economics and Law at UMKC.
02:06:03.000He's the Executive Director of the Institute for Fraud Prevention.
02:06:07.000He's taught previously at the LBJ School of Public Affairs, the University of Texas at LBJ, and at Santa Clara University.
02:06:13.000We're going to go back to our guest and then to all of your calls or go to our guest here in just a few minutes.
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02:08:54.000He got the IMF World Bank documents in 2002.
02:08:56.000The IMF and World Bank confirmed these are their documents, where they openly try to hurt economies, blow out economies, engineer depressions, to then steal the infrastructures of countries, to then jack up prices, on average three times that.
02:09:11.000And to give us another angle of this, is the author of, The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One, and I first saw Professor Black Quoted in an article out of Mother Jones Magazine, the predator state, Enron, Tyco, Worldcom, and the U.S.
02:09:36.000Tell us a little bit about yourself and what the predator state is.
02:09:40.000I know you're just quoting this article, but I think that's a good term for it.
02:09:43.000I wouldn't call it liberal or conservative, I'd just call it centralized and criminal, and break down what we face as a society and why the best way to rob a bank is to own one.
02:09:56.000I, on my third career, started out as a typical big firm lawyer, went into the government in the heart of the savings and loan crisis, dealing with the, trying to get the crooks under control and the powerful politicians supporting them.
02:10:15.000And then went back to school and got a doctorate in criminology and I specialize in what happens when the CEO or the head of state is the crook and uses the corporation or the nation as a weapon to defraud others.
02:10:30.000Professor, isn't that the definition of tyranny?
02:10:32.000It's just when crooks take over and start literally feeding?
02:10:35.000And now Bush is announcing that he is a dictator.
02:10:38.000He's announcing dictator powers of being above the law.
02:10:41.000Can we out of the gate, since you've got a criminology degree and a law degree, and study this specifically?
02:10:49.000Or would you say my statement's too strong or not strong enough?
02:10:53.000Well, I don't know that he's a tyrant because of that particular thing.
02:10:58.000I agree that he has engineered the greatest cutback in civil liberties and constitutional rights of any president in a very long time.
02:11:10.000And I seriously think he's the worst president in our history.
02:11:16.000But, I mean, he's openly having his lawyers... John Hughes said we can torture children in front of their parents, and then when he was asked in a CFR meeting about it, we played the recording, he said yes.
02:11:27.000The Attorney General says Bush is above the law.
02:11:29.000I mean, when a president starts saying that he can ignore the Congress... Remember how they weren't going to reauthorize the Patriot Act and expand it, so Bush said, even if you don't reauthorize, I'm still going to enforce?
02:11:43.000Well, and there's something worse as well, or at least it goes with it.
02:11:47.000He's defined war as being any time there's terrorism.
02:11:51.000Well, there's terrorism at all times in history.
02:11:55.000So this is a war that will be in perpetuity.
02:11:58.000So if you say, I'm going to have special powers, but they're only going to exist during wartime, but then you define wartime as all time, And then you have a farce.
02:12:17.000So you have a degree in criminology on top of your law degree, and you study specifically CEOs and governments.
02:12:25.000Break down some of the crimes that you've witnessed and where you think we're going, because there seems like there's a wild, orgy-like, sinking titanic looting going on, Professor.
02:12:36.000Yes, and it's in part because we didn't learn about the right lessons.
02:12:41.000In fact, we learned exactly the wrong lessons from the earlier waves of fraud.
02:12:46.000So, I got started with this thing down with Texas Savings and Loans, particularly Vernon Savings and Loan, which to the regulators was known as Vermin, a place where 96% of its loans were in default when it closed.
02:13:02.000And the key thing about that was that then-Speaker Wright went to bat and was willing to hold up the financing for the entire nation designed to close down these kind of fraudulent SNLs to help this particular sleazy SNL.
02:13:21.000And of course the Bushes... Charles Keating.
02:13:24.000The Bushes are always knee-deep in all of this.
02:13:27.000Well, obviously, Neil Bush, the brother of the current president, was involved in Silverado in Colorado, and then when our agency sought to take, frankly, what was a very mild enforcement action against him, his mother
02:13:49.000went to a White House person who then called over to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation's General Counsel and tried to get him to pull the case.
02:14:06.000Yes, these are folks who use their power and then use their power to avoid paying the consequences to causing enormous damage.
02:14:16.000Well, I've looked at the SNLs, and of course you worked in it and helped prosecute a lot of it, but, sir, at the same time, I mean, Bush Sr.
02:14:23.000has been on the board of banks that have been doing this, too.
02:14:57.000You put all your assets overwhelmingly into things that have no clear market value.
02:15:04.000And that allows you to use accounting scams So that a place like Vernon, that in fact was virtually completely bankrupt in the sense that it had virtually no real assets, it reported it was the most profitable S&L in America.
02:15:22.000And it got the most elite of accounting firms to bless that with clean opinions.
02:15:29.000And then, to make it worse, the way you really optimize it is you grow very rapidly.
02:15:37.000And of course, you're seeing this in many areas now.
02:15:40.000But what it meant for Texas, of course, was an enormous bubble.
02:15:45.000Because you had all of the fraudulent S&Ls, even as vacancy rates surged, continuing to add more and more see-through office buildings, if you remember that era.
02:15:57.000I remember, I lived in Rockwall, and we would drive across the lake in Danny Faulkner's developments, and they were falling apart, and I'm not kidding folks, they were blowing down and falling apart before they finished them.
02:16:11.000We called them moon pads, Martian moon pads, because often the only thing that was left was the concrete pad.
02:16:19.000And that was, you know, a typical example.
02:16:21.000The guy that they brought in as a face person had been the head of the Trade Association of Savings and Loans.
02:16:30.000So, what happens next in all of this is, of course, eventually the regulators and the prosecutors might start to get suspicious.
02:16:39.000And at that point, you use the fact that you have the apparent legitimacy of a corporation, you know, we think of them as honest, And, of course, the resource is even more important, and they make political contributions.
02:17:13.000You have the government backing up crime, and then, before they brought the Ponzi scheme out, They conduit most of the real assets into other real corporations that they control.
02:17:23.000Yes, and of course a bunch of others that they don't necessarily control.
02:17:27.000So, construction trades do very well if there's a bubble, and contractors do very well, and they aren't necessarily fraudulent.
02:17:35.000But you're right, some of the money is also taken and moved to other countries.
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02:21:58.000He'll also take some calls coming up in the next segment.
02:22:00.000I'm sure whatever issue it is, he can comment on it.
02:22:04.000I have the Brookshire Hathaway, uh, some of the minutes, I have some of the, uh, transcripts of what was said last weekend at their big meeting.
02:22:12.000And they're giggling and laughing and talking about the giant bubble and how America's going to implode and how they'll buy everything up cheap.
02:22:17.000Because they also make money after they blow it out, folks.
02:22:20.000And the dollar's plunged 40 plus percent.
02:22:23.000The new Fed Chairman Bernanke is saying he's going to double the money supply in the next two years.
02:22:30.000In the last six, the former outgoing Fed Chief Greenspan doubled it.
02:22:36.000I mean, they're taking what they did in Texas to the national level.
02:22:40.000You've studied crime and government, sir.
02:22:41.000It looks like all of the other Ponzi schemes of the past have been just expanded to gargantuan proportions.
02:22:49.000Would you like to comment on that statement?
02:22:51.000Yeah, the conventional economic wisdom, after all this fraud in the savings and loans, where over a thousand savings and loan senior insiders were convicted of felonies, was there was no fraud.
02:23:04.000It was all just a distraction, and the markets worked perfectly, you don't need anyone looking for fraud, and of course it produced the latest stuff, the Enron's and the WorldCom, the largest wave of prosecuted frauds in the history of the world.
02:23:21.000And of course you saw in Russia with the privatization disaster and all of the corruption and such.
02:23:34.000And it not only discredited completely the market type answers, but it helped bring in increasingly dictatorial Putin to power.
02:23:45.000Can you imagine if the, you know, what was It happened in Latin America, had happened with a Democrat as a president, everyone would be talking about who lost Latin America.
02:23:56.000You know, one virulently anti-American leader after another being elected there, in large part because the privatization plans, you talked about the IMF and World Bank, well, they proved absolutely disastrous.
02:24:12.000They assumed that they would all be run honestly, and instead of course you sell You know, if you're going to privatize the phone company, you sell it to your crony.
02:24:21.000And you sell it for half of its real market value.
02:24:38.000They say they actually want to break down, as you just mentioned with Putin, to then bring in a police state to organize even more grabbing.
02:24:46.000Well, you know, the IMF and World Bank, World Bank's moved away from this somewhat, believed in what was known as the Washington Consensus, and it was very arrogant, and it was a one-size-fit-all, and it was, you know, the old joke in economics, assume the can opener, they assumed honesty.
02:25:06.000Well, okay, but if you do, I will fleece you.
02:25:31.000They really don't much get troubled by the facts that prove them wrong.
02:25:36.000They just keep repeating the same nonsense time after time.
02:25:41.000You know, it may be that they're all on drugs, but I don't think so.
02:25:44.000They do appear to believe it, many of the folks that you see, and it's just, you know, reality doesn't seem to be able to intrude upon them.
02:25:54.000So, Professor Black, what do you see happening in America now, I mean, with the real estate bubble and the overprinting of currency and all these other indicators?
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02:31:11.000The author of The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to own one, William K. Black Professor.
02:31:17.000Got a law degree, also a professor in criminology, been following this for decades, been investigating it, been part of the groups going after these people.
02:31:25.000Sir, before we go to these calls, watching this over all these years, watching this develop, and you talk about the confidence in the government and the regulators being out the window, where people still steal tens of billions of dollars and they get a few months in prison, and other people mysteriously die, so no one's really being punished.
02:31:51.000What do you estimate is going to happen in the next few months, the next few years here in the United States?
02:31:58.000Well, I think that there is a severe housing bubble and that it's already breaking in a number of regional markets.
02:32:05.000You can see that the inflation has reached serious levels where the Fed is worried that it's made mistakes.
02:32:16.000As long as China and India keep up major growth, and if Japan starts coming out of its, you know, 15-year series of recessions, you won't necessarily get, you know, terrible recession.
02:32:35.000But if you continue the way you're doing, you'll ruin the institutions.
02:32:41.000You know, you're lying, as you went out to break, about fool me once, That's exactly rational but it's exactly the danger as well.
02:32:51.000Because everything economics and now a whole bunch of other things is teaching us is trust is critically important to a well-functioning economy, to a well-functioning government, society, marriage, everything else.
02:33:05.000And once you get cheated, it's rational not to trust.
02:33:13.000And so it's You know, if you think about what fraud is, it's defining element is deceit.
02:33:19.000So what you do is first create trust, and then betray it.
02:33:25.000And because of that, fraud is about the most effective solvent you can think of for destroying trust.
02:33:32.000And that's what we're seeing, fraud in the highest levels, not just in government, but our most prestigious economic institutions, the Citicorps, you know, the Morgan Stanley's, etc., etc.
02:33:44.000Well, Professor, let me add something to that.
02:33:47.000The media is complicit in this, and owned by the very corporations that are taking part in this.
02:33:51.000Whenever they run a scam, they'll blame a few scapegoats or a few sacrificial lambs, they'll burn one or two patsies or one or two crooks, but then really protect those, so this just goes on, and then fool the public into thinking that things have been fixed and The problem is, you can only cry wolf so many times.
02:34:09.000Yeah, in criminology we call it the Vice President in Charge of Going to Jail.
02:34:17.000But, I mean, the fraud is so massive this time, Professor.
02:34:22.000Yes, and, you know, there's this wonderful memorandum by KPMG We are one of the remaining big four audit firms in which they say, we're going to violate the law on these tax shelters.
02:34:36.000And the reason we're going to do it is every single one of our competitors violates the law.
02:34:42.000And there are competitive advantages if you violate the law.
02:34:46.000So if we were honest, we'd go out of business.
02:34:51.000Well that's what happens in a corrupt society is that everyone just becomes corrupt but then that destroys trust so you become a place like Russia where you can't get up on your hind legs because the only defense is doing what the Russian slaves would do is just lay down and do nothing.
02:35:06.000And beyond that, Putin just gave a speech two weeks ago decrying the fact that the country's population is plummeting, and the reason it's plummeting is that the life expectancy is gone down by over a decade.
02:35:24.000Everything is collapsed in a number of sectors.
02:35:49.000Now they're back up probably to second world status economically in the last couple years.
02:35:55.000But they went down and suddenly you couldn't drink the water safely.
02:35:59.000You couldn't drive on the road safely.
02:36:01.000By the way, I remember the Washington Post article with photos.
02:36:05.000Three weeks into their implosion, police riding people down with horses and armor, and just three weeks into it, an 18-wheeler carrying cattle turned over, and citizens were, and these were yuppies, were running up, gobbling raw beef like vampires, just slathering themselves with it.
02:37:09.000This has been in the Houston Chronicle.
02:37:11.000Halliburton brings in tens of thousands of illegal aliens to do the rebuilding, and then they even cheat them and don't even pay them and just say, no, we're not going to pay you.
02:37:20.000Bush gives a speech there in downtown New Orleans with the generator putting the lights on behind him saying, look, the power's on.
02:38:14.000I tell Walmart employees, and I was one about 14 years ago and it happened to me, But they've been sued, and they've been convicted, and it's been in the news that they order you to work about 10 hours extra a week.
02:38:27.000They go, go clock in and work three more hours.
02:38:30.000I want you to physically unload that tractor trailer of batteries.
02:38:34.000We don't have a machine to get them off the pallets.
02:38:36.000You're going to physically climb up one by one, and you're all burned with battery acid.
02:38:40.000The point is that, oh, if Americans won't do this, we'll just bring illegal aliens in.
02:38:47.000And to further your point, On the Halliburton's of the world, we actually have pockets of really good people still.
02:38:55.000And one of the pockets we had was an Inspector General's outfit that did auditing of fraud in the contractors in Iraq.
02:39:04.000You know, this just made the news earlier this week.
02:39:23.000Let me bring up one more point, as you should bring up Iraq.
02:39:26.000The first action of the provisional government under Bremer in Iraq two months in, when they fired that first general, Paul Bremer said no more national numbers on homicides, cancers, deaths.
02:39:39.000So they did that to cover up the slaughter.
02:39:42.000And then you bring up the other point.
02:39:46.000Yeah, well, all this farce about, you know, could a civil war begin?
02:39:50.000The civil war has been going on for well over a year in Iraq.
02:39:55.000Now, I tell you, I just trained some folks, including the head of their ministry that does anti-corruption.
02:40:03.000They have some very good and some very brave people.
02:40:06.000For example, two of the members of their office just discovered over a billion dollars of diversion of oil, which was simply stolen and taken to Syria, where doubtless is funding terrorism, right?
02:40:19.000And two of their investigators were murdered just as they were coming here.
02:40:23.000So you get honest people trying in lots of places, and they're targeted.
02:40:29.000And the killers have so much money, they just hire hitmen.
02:40:32.000You sound like a well-read person, a widely read professor.
02:40:36.000You're obviously well-read, but on other subjects you're widely read as well.
02:40:40.000Did you see the Chicago Tribune with John Yoo and others?
02:40:44.000But there was another Chicago Tribune article where they admitted that there are two full-time lobbyists on Capitol Hill, Ford, Dyncor, and Halliburton, Blocking the army implementing the already existing laws against white slavery and kidnapping in Serbia and Iraq, and that indeed they are engaging in white slavery, and Halliburton and Dyncor have full-time lobbyists lobbying openly in the floor of the House and Senate against this.
02:41:09.000The trafficking stuff on so many levels, you could do whole shows on this.
02:41:17.000But I mean, Professor, what I'm saying is... The U.N.
02:41:19.000is dirty, the United States is dirty, Israel is dirty.
02:41:23.000You look almost everywhere in the world, and it's a scandal.
02:41:28.000But that's my point, is that I feel like, I keep saying Twilight Zone, Twilight Zone until it has no effect, and Outer Limits, Crazy Land, Alice in Wonderland, whatever.
02:41:56.000I mean, will rich people start having, you know, golfing outings where they have a roast where they roast a child at the end and have a lobbyist?
02:42:04.000As you know, I teach economics in addition to these other things and there are lots of screw-ups in economics, but ultimately there are a lot of important truths and the number of lobbyists has more than doubled in six years.
02:42:26.000They don't spend all that money unless it works.
02:42:30.000And that, you know, the K Street strategy is It was an immoral obscenity that was profoundly anti-democratic.
02:42:42.000It wasn't simply that they were looting.
02:42:44.000To say you can only hire lobbyists of one party, you can only contribute to our party, or we will cut you dead and you will get no ability To even talk to us in Congress.
02:43:00.000Professor, one last question before I take some calls.
02:43:21.000But we see other countries that get corrupt.
02:43:22.000They always turn into third world cesspools or dictatorships or worse.
02:43:27.000And I really don't see any way out for America.
02:43:29.000The Ponzi scheme's so big that it just seems like, well, we're fried.
02:43:35.000And I'm sorry to have to say that about the confidence I have in this country, but it seems like when they got lobbyists for child kidnapping rings, it's over.
02:43:45.000Extraordinarily bad, but it's been extraordinarily bad at other times in American history as well when basically there was a very well-known market price for a senator and where every corporation had major judges on their payroll directly.
02:44:03.000So I guess I'm More optimistic, perhaps.
02:44:08.000But the criminals, Professor, it's like in The Godfather, which is based on a true story, as you know, where Don Carleone says, I'm not going to sell drugs.
02:44:16.000He says, judges we control, but they're not going to get involved in drugs, they're not going to get involved in the really dirty stuff.
02:44:25.000Something changed, even in the criminals now, Where they're just even worse than ever.
02:44:57.000I agree, Professor, that we can beat them.
02:45:01.000But it's kind of like, you know, we're in a plane that's going to crash, we need to get the flaps up and slow down and have a somewhat of a controlled landing and we'll get off this thing alive.
02:45:11.000I'm just saying that it's just, it's mind-blowing.
02:45:15.000I mean, I'm almost speechless, the amount of corruption that's just admitted.
02:45:19.000Yeah, but, you know, again, they sort of want you to give up.
02:45:50.000Yes, I think to rectify this situation in which the public has not demanded, Professor, is disclosure.
02:45:57.000And as you know, it is because of the lack of disclosure that this criminal activity is allowed to advance to a further stage.
02:46:07.000As you know, Professor, in 1986, The Limited Partnership Act was changed, whereas the limited partners were no longer required by law to publicly disclose their amounts and contributions to whatever asset or partnership they were in except of the general partner.
02:46:29.000And as you know, it was normally 1%, and this was publicly disclosed in the courthouse.
02:46:36.000And as you know, The Congress, you look at Congress, State Legislature, any of them.
02:46:43.000You will see you can take a Mack truck to that public disclosure.
02:46:46.000We need to get back where our laws were in 1987 to rectify this criminal activity because you do not have an audit trail.
02:46:54.000And as you know, Professor, there were very few convictions in that 500 million, excuse me, billion... Okay, thank you for the call.
02:47:04.000I think that's I think that's a lot of points you made there, Professor.
02:47:08.000Transparency is critical, and look what has happened in Congress.
02:47:13.000The House and Senate Ethics Committees, until yesterday, have been absolutely shut down for virtually two years.
02:47:22.000Oversight hearings have fallen to historical lows in modern times.
02:47:28.000So people aren't looking, and when people don't look, and when you have an administration that makes an absolute obsession out of keeping, well, making our secrets their, you know, non-secret, and keeping their secrets secret, then you're going to have corruption flourish.
02:47:46.000And so the Bible says, you know, all those that do us evil hateth the light.
02:47:56.000Well, you just brought up what I was going to raise.
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02:53:41.000Yeah, I just had a few points about, kind of touching on this, but also what you were talking about earlier, the future scenarios and evolution of this fascism.
02:53:53.000Well, it's good to be aware, you know, of what's coming down the pike, and you're in the business of waking people up, and that's why you talk about it, and that's good.
02:54:00.000But if we don't put a great deal of energy into focusing on, you know, alternatives to all that, then we will be living in the worst hell we can imagine.
02:54:09.000Uh, you know, healthy soil and water are worth more than gold.
02:54:13.000And, uh, if we unplug from the power grid, that would certainly help us out a lot.
02:54:18.000Uh, there's a great book on this called Currents of Death that goes into how damaging the, uh, 60 hertz currents are to us.
02:54:26.000Hey, send it to us, and call me back tomorrow because that's important, and that's another area.
02:54:30.000I mean, corruption just isn't this financial stuff.
02:54:32.000We have Monsanto and others openly at board meetings, this has been in mainstream news, saying, we want to infect all the genetic systems in the plants, but then claim we own it and force you to eat this, and the Nobel Prize winners in genetics say it's deadly poison.
02:54:46.000I mean, that's another example, Professor, of just a wild corruption and no regulation.
02:54:51.000Well, you've seen a really severe drop in the quality of places like the CDC, that's communicable disease, and the FDA.
02:55:02.000You've seen the public health network crushed at the time when if they really do get these plagues, whether man-made or natural, it's going to, the burden is going to fall on the public health system and it's going to be just like Katrina.
02:55:16.000Well, all of the public health money is spent on buying $4 billion of vaccine from Rumsfeld's firm, when the vaccine, they say, won't even help.
02:55:26.000It's a travesty, and it's a travesty in almost every place you look.
02:55:31.000That's why I actually am deadly serious.
02:55:35.000I do think he's the worst president we've ever had to suffer through.
02:55:39.000Well, Professor, I really want to thank you for joining us.
02:55:42.000And as soon as your new book, Super Predators, correct?
02:55:45.000Financial Super Predators is a working title.
02:55:47.000As soon as that comes out, I'd like to have you back on and plug it, and I'd like to perhaps even carry it in our online video and bookstore at InfoWars.com.