On this Memorial Day, former CIA analyst Ray McGovern joins host Alex Jones to discuss martial law in Washington, D.C. and the dangers of government surveillance and surveillance technology. Alex Jones explains how our government is using surveillance technology to spy on us.
00:00:37.000We're going to have open phones throughout the broadcast, and Ray McGovern, senior-level CIA analyst for Reagan and former President Bush, will be joining us on this Memorial Day.
00:00:52.000I hope to discuss What our troops have supposedly fought and died for, that is the Bill of Rights and Constitution, home of the free, land of the brave, and how that's being dismantled.
00:01:03.000So what does Memorial Day mean to you?
00:01:06.000We are here, we're alive, because we know the New World Order is coming down on America like a ton of bricks, and the time is short before they launch the next level of their tyranny in this country and worldwide, and we need to fight them.
00:01:57.000staying near the Capitol and heard automatic weapons fire or heard semi-automatic weapons fire and the police and the public when I looked out my hotel window were acting like it was no big deal.
00:02:11.000And this whole thing is extremely, extremely suspicious, but I would almost hope that it was Bush ordering the Capitol Police at the drop of a hat to take over the Capitol and let them know who the boss is, compared to just the abject hysterical hysteria, the hand-wringing fear we saw.
00:02:36.000And I did witness over the weekend some replays and it showed congressmen, maybe you saw this, you've got a tape of it, we really want it, congressmen sitting there trying to talk to the press, talk to news cameras and having military style police come over and tell them turn your cell phone off and move away from that camera.
00:02:58.000Again, we're the boss, we work for the executive, we're going to tell you what to do, scum.
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00:08:58.000This is the third time in the last couple years that Just anything, any noise, any backfire, any type of problem in or around the Capitol complex of office buildings on Capitol Hill causes a lockdown of the Capitol and armed SWAT teams descend on the complex aiming their guns at congressmen, shoving people around stomping around everywhere.
00:09:38.000It's unbelievable, and we go back to the anthrax attacks, clearly launched by the executive branch, the White House on Cipro, three and a half weeks before the anthrax first shows up in Boca Raton, Florida at American Media, to the very photo editor who'd done big stories on his two drunken daughters falling down on top of each other, and every other Bush enemy basically gets an anthrax letter in the mail, and the Patriot Act,
00:10:04.000Suddenly passes when three of the five office buildings are shut down, part of the Capitol shut down.
00:10:11.000There are paramilitary police running around in black Darth Vader uniforms inside the Capitol.
00:10:20.000Parts of the Capitol are shut down because of anthrax.
00:10:24.000This is in October of 2001, and the USA Patriot Act passes.
00:10:29.000On Friday, while all this hysteria is going on, the Intelligence Committee, and then one of the other committees that was about to confirm Mr. Hayden, Michael V. Hayden, General Hayden, head of the CIA, which they later did that day, was locked down with armed men in the chambers with machine guns.
00:13:44.000Or they use real events, and then their policies, the default policy, causes even more hysteria.
00:13:53.000So some of it's staged, some of it is just the hysteria that's come out of the past staged events.
00:13:57.000We don't have to go around the country to fake nuclear spills and blowing up buses in Chicago or in Seattle a few years ago running drills and running them unannounced and then citizens see it and they panic and then they announce, oh, it's just a drill.
00:15:24.000The media the next day has headlines, Belton hit by a terrorist, and you read, in one case it was like ten paragraphs, and then it mentions it was a drill!
00:15:33.000The average person reading this... Well let me, let me go back.
00:15:38.000So he announces we've been hit by terrorists.
00:17:18.000See, this is what this is all designed to do.
00:17:20.000Then the next day in the Belton paper, Belton hit by terrorists, and people are reading this with fear, for a couple minutes you get to the end of the articles, like a half page of the front page, at the very bottom it says, oh, but it was all just a drill.
00:17:33.000See, it's war of the world's hysteria.
00:17:35.000They've had thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of these drills everywhere.
00:17:41.000Fake nuclear spills, fake bio-attacks, and pretty soon Somebody hears a jackhammer, they say it may be gunfire.
00:17:50.000Then some women staffers see a plainclothes cop, which anybody can tell what a plainclothes cop is, they freak out.
00:19:52.000It's like Jim Jones with the Kool-Aid drills.
00:19:55.000They're just drilling you to be slaves for martial law.
00:19:58.000We'll talk to Thomas in Denmark when we get back.
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00:24:23.000They've got the people of this country so on edge that they're ready to just run in hysteria into the arms of this Darth Vader-clad stormtroopers at the drop of a hat.
00:24:35.000I mean, everybody knows what a jackhammer sounds like, and it does sound a little bit similar to an automatic rifle discharging, but at the same time, it just shows what this country's turned into.
00:25:19.000I mean, that's why we've been aware of this for a long time.
00:25:22.000That's why I was talking about martial law and troops.
00:25:24.000I mean, I live in Texas, where police chiefs throw Delta Force out for trying to bribe them, and Delta Force comes back and still covertly leases buildings, and then blows them up.
00:25:33.000I live in Texas where I've got police on tape admitting foreign troops were with them.
00:27:01.000Alright, let me tell you, there's a hundred percent media blackout concerning the corruption in America here and about the 9-1-1 truth movement and no one has any clue about this over here.
00:27:24.000So, let me tell you... Well, I just got interviewed by national television from Denmark and that's going to be it.
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00:35:04.000He got caught here in Houston shipping C-4 to Muammar Gaddafi in the early 80s.
00:35:09.000He insisted he was doing it for the CIA.
00:35:11.000The government said he was a rogue agent.
00:35:14.000And he went to trial and they sentenced him like life in prison.
00:35:17.000But about a year ago, his lawyer uncovered the fact that he really was working for the CIA and they let him out of prison and pretty much, they totally exonerated him.
00:35:48.000But nobody, I mean they totally exonerate, let them out of prison, but nobody in the Congress or anything says, hey, what would the CIA ship a C4 to a terrorist nation for, you know?
00:35:55.000Well, what's really scary is whenever a CIA officer agent gets caught following orders, they'll put them in prison.
00:36:04.000I mean, people working for this government should remember that.
00:36:08.000I got one more question I want to ask you, Alex.
00:36:11.000I got news accounts that the Mexican Army was sending troops in here to help during Hurricane Katrina, but I never heard any news reports that they went back home.
00:36:20.000They were in San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans.
00:36:24.000They were in areas of Mississippi, and I never heard about them going home.
00:36:28.000Sir, we have the Los Zetas, who are current Mexican military, they're not former like the news says, running around killing people right here in Texas.
00:36:35.000And back of the newspaper, Well, that's all I got.
00:37:28.000Okay, it's dc911truth.org and I want to beseech people to come out of the shadows, all the patriots and Don't be afraid and help spread the word.
00:37:39.000Amina, one of my fellow members, were handing out flyers accusing the government of being complicit in 9-11 in downtown Bethesda, Maryland at a movie theater where they were showing Flight 93.
00:37:51.000We must have handed out two or three hundred of them.
00:38:16.000I was at a restaurant, and I tried to make it a point to tell at least two people every day about 9-1-1.
00:38:21.000I tried not to be too obnoxious, and I don't, you know, I try to be methodical about it.
00:38:26.000So I was sitting at the lunch counter, and this woman a couple seats away from me said, yeah, you know, 9-1-1 was an inside job.
00:38:33.000I was reading Wester Tarpley's book while I was waiting for my brunch, 9-1-1 Synthetic Terror, which, by the way, he's a member of our group, by the way.
00:39:48.000It's so disgusting to see how many people know what's going on but are afraid to stand up and speak out.
00:39:54.000If everybody that knew the truth would stand up, get involved, we have over half the country now in major polls who don't just believe that the government was involved or might have known what happened and let it happen but carried it out.
00:40:06.000We are now beginning to win this fight.
00:40:38.000Yes, the hysterical evacuation here in the land of the cowards, home of the slaves, where a jackhammer goes off so you lock all the schools down and you have total hysteria and then troops run up to, and they had paramilitary police there, running up to congressmen saying don't talk to that news camera.
00:40:59.000Well, I have a different take on it, I think.
00:41:03.000You see, these people have sold out their country And I think that any kind of noise that would remind them of a gun, whether it does or not, would scare them witless.
00:42:09.000Well, what you've got is, we're basically like a bull, or a buck and bronco horse, and they're like a cowboy on our back.
00:42:17.000And believe me, they've heard all your phone calls, they've read all your letters, they know that everybody hates them, they know that more and more people are getting wise to them.
00:42:26.000That's why they're setting this police state up.
00:42:30.000It's like somebody who you invited into your house for the weekend, And suddenly it's a year later, and they've got you moved out of the master bedroom, sleeping on the couch, and they're telling you to go out and get them a pizza, and you finally just go, you know, I'm sick of you!
00:43:02.000And they do have three different types of propaganda.
00:43:05.000They have the pure government propaganda, which they know that no one's buying into anymore.
00:43:10.000Then they have the middle propaganda, or what they call gray propaganda.
00:43:13.000You have black propaganda, gray propaganda, and white propaganda.
00:43:17.000And there's government documents on this.
00:43:19.000The CIA in the past would assess the Soviets this way.
00:43:23.000They ought to use their own handbooks to go assess themselves.
00:43:25.000But with black propaganda, that's government put out that no one is buying into except low-grade morons.
00:43:30.000Then you've got grey propaganda that be like a limbaugh that still fools certain partisans, that punches the right buttons, that tells some truth but also a lot of lies, Michael Sandwich.
00:43:43.000And white propaganda is where they can go out and find a police officer, a doctor, a nurse, a school teacher, to volunteer for Homeland Security, or FEMA, or any of these other groups, AmeriCorps, Securicorps.
00:43:59.000And then you brainwash them, you give them just enough of the story where it sounds good, they're compartmentalized, they don't know what they're part of, a larger, a bigger picture, and then they go out and their neighbors, their friends, their families believe in them because people have a gauge, they have a meter, a baloney detector as they say.
00:44:21.000Well, they say something else, we'll just call it a garbage detector.
00:44:24.000But if somebody believes in what they're saying, and they believe they're telling the truth, then it will telegraph to you as true, and you can be fooled by it.
00:44:35.000That's why FEMA has recruited hundreds of thousands of preachers, hundreds of thousands of doctors and police officers and other people that the public still trusts to a certain extent, to go out and brainwash the public.
00:44:51.000That's what's happening right now all over this country.
00:44:56.000I'm going to go to Randy and Virginia and others here in a few minutes, but let me just cover this now.
00:45:05.000We posted national documents and local training manuals out of Ohio.
00:45:10.000And we posted many other training manuals that are being used by state employees in Virginia and Texas, and even what's given to the public, where they say Constitutionalists are terrorists, homeschoolers are terrorists, property rights activists are terrorists.
00:46:17.000As my research knows, as my readers know, this is some guy's got a website, but I cannot accept unattributed stories such as yours without some eyewitness testimony and other actual proof.
00:46:31.000Sometimes the conspiracy exists, and sometimes it exists only in imagination.
00:46:35.000Until you can prove the facts of the secret FEMA plan to use pastors as pacifiers, you will be marginalized as a conspiracy nut with success.
00:46:45.000I ought to contact Jack D, and I ought to have this guy on the show.
00:46:58.000Jack Dee, it's admitted that FEMA is recruiting pastors and community leaders.
00:47:04.000I've had the, what in Knoxville and in other areas of the country, I've had the head of the Alabama Defense Forces on.
00:47:11.000They admit that all of this training is going on.
00:47:15.000We posted the training manuals, we blacked out the names of the very pastor, We blacked out the names of the other pastors because they want to get us more information.
00:47:26.000But we posted the official document, sir.
00:47:29.000The official document is right there for you to read it.
00:47:37.000You know, I even get emails every week saying there was no gun confiscation in New Orleans.
00:47:42.000Doesn't matter if I've got national news clips of it and eyewitnesses and doesn't matter if the mayor announced it on TV.
00:47:49.000In fact, when the mayor announced that and the gun confiscation began, we wrote an article about it and actually got emails saying we were liars!
00:47:57.000Didn't matter if we had transcripts, didn't matter if we had a transcript from the New York Times, didn't even matter if we had video clips!
00:48:07.000I went to the massive urban warfare drill there in Oakland, California, and witnessed Marines, foreign troops, Dutch, British, others, Israeli, French, training with hundreds of role players who were screaming, I'm an American, please knock the camp, I have rights.
00:48:27.000We have the fake interrogations on video, that they were doing these little war games where, well, where are you from?
00:49:56.000It's people like you that are going to kill this country, buddy.
00:50:02.000Because you claim you know about the New World Order, but we're making stuff up.
00:50:05.000It's like we go show an urban warfare training camp in Mississippi or Louisiana, and then you go visit it and go, well, they say that's a training facility.
00:50:42.000I mean, are you going to deny it when they're kicking your door down for your guns, or saying you've got to come to earn your guns in for food?
00:50:48.000When there's some big nuke attack or bio attack?
00:50:50.000I mean, you'll make excuses then, won't you?
00:50:53.000We'll come back, talk to Randy and others.
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00:55:43.000Yeah, Alex, you bring up some of these emails these people send you where they don't believe things.
00:55:48.000That reminded me of the Oklahoma City bombing where, live on the news that day, they were, you know, after the original bomb, so-called, had went off, and then, you know, they're working to get people out.
00:55:59.000They had the governor, the police video of them removing the bombs, bombing.
00:56:22.000I wanted to ask you, I was going to ask you about this Pentagon video, but you brought up the FEMA program with the pastors, something I'm pretty interested in.
00:56:33.000What should we do when we see an article like that?
00:56:36.000Can we call into our local newspaper and ask them about that, and can they run a story on that?
00:56:43.000I would go around to the preachers and say, are you part of this program in 13,000 counties?
00:56:47.00013,000 plus counties, and then we've got the federal documents where they admit that they're recruiting the pastors for emergencies, and then we've gotten the internal training manuals that they use And then we have the eyewitnesses.
00:57:01.000I mean, this listener doesn't get it who sent this email going, I demand the name of the pastor.
00:57:20.000And then you have to judge the media source and say, have they given me good info in the past?
00:57:25.000But right beside the preacher claiming this is going on, with the documents backing most of his claims up, we then have all these FEMA and Homeland Security and State Emergency Management Agency documents that say, word for word, everything he's saying.
00:57:55.000I know you don't like to major on this little Pentagon video, but I got to thinking about some of this eyewitness testimony, particularly this guy's name is Frank Probst.
00:58:05.000I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.
00:58:07.000Yeah, a lot of them are Defense Intelligence CIA.
00:58:11.000Pentagon renovation worker and retired Army officer.
00:59:29.000We also have reports here, babies aborted for not being perfect in England.
00:59:33.000This is becoming more and more widespread.
00:59:36.000Right now, let's go to some more of your calls than Ray McGovern.
00:59:39.000And by the way, John, just so we have it when McGovern joins us, find the last Jon Stewart piece we aired about two weeks ago where he talks about Ray McGovern.
01:01:29.000In Norristown, Montgomery County, they set up an oligarchy, and this is in Pennsylvania, They admit they're not going to have a mayor anymore because the mayor squandered the money.
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01:01:51.000Well, the city council made up of four members.
01:01:54.000And the other report is Homeland Security was in the neighborhood, in the vicinity of Philadelphia International Airport.
01:02:02.000They had our perimeter set up, and that was about a month ago, so I'd just like to report that to you.
01:02:09.000Lord Malthus, he came up with this idea, what was it, like 200 years ago, 170 years ago, I forget, I've read about him, but...
01:02:19.000The point is, is he said that the people are basically scum, that who cares if they die in factories or who cares if they starve to death, that the elite has a right to rule over them and there's too many people, and so just don't even take care of the population, they're basically worthless.
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01:07:22.000They've just got to keep pumping up the bubble.
01:07:25.000Or it'll pop, it'll burst and float in on them.
01:07:28.000So to cover up all the past corruption and bid rigging and all the war profiteering and the domestic corruption, they just hurtle forward headlong saying, no, no, no, we're dictators, we're above the law.
01:07:44.000I'm here on Memorial Day, Ray McGovern, Senior CIA Analyst, Advisor to Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, and others in the agency, 27 years.
01:07:53.000Tirelessly traveling the country, exposing the great peril our Republic is in.
01:07:58.000He, of course, is an Army veteran himself, a Vietnam-era, and we are honored to have him.
01:08:02.000But before we go to him, I want to play this Jon Stewart piece.
01:08:05.000It's about three and a half minutes long.
01:08:06.000We've played this before, but I want to play it one more time.
01:08:09.000This is just a few days after he confronted Rumsfeld on his lies.
01:08:16.000And by the way, I've got a new film coming out that isn't really about 9-11.
01:08:21.000Most of the film is about Iraq and the lies.
01:08:25.000And, I mean, I had so many clips of Rumsfeld saying that they found WMDs or knew where they were, or we know he has weapons of mass destruction, that I couldn't even put them all in the film.
01:08:35.000It took a long time to go dig all these up.
01:09:49.000Alright, well that settles it everybody, there's pound cake in the back, we're gonna all have a nice time and uh... It appears that there were not weapons of mass destruction there.
01:11:20.000So it's your way or the highway is not true.
01:11:24.000It is so wrong, it's just unbelievable.
01:11:28.000Mmm, that's some good old-fashioned muck polishing.
01:11:32.000Yes, as Iraq continues to spiral out of control and criticism of Rumsfeld grows, Fox News decided it was time to take an in-depth look at the issue.
01:11:39.000Yes, why he fights an hour-long investigative report into the real Donald Rumsfeld, hosted by Necklace Johnson.
01:11:52.000He wears a pedometer on his belt to count every step he takes every day.
01:11:57.000But even for a former college wrestler who still did one-arm push-ups.
01:12:01.000People Magazine named him one of the year's sexiest men.
01:12:11.000I believe, though, that was a pretty off year for sexy men.
01:12:16.000If I remember correctly, that was the year Tom Bosley won.
01:12:21.000Now, the special did include interviews with Rumsfeld critic General Paul Van Rieper, one of the officers who had called for Rumsfeld's resignation.
01:12:31.000I'm sure there'll be no change in the reporter's inflection.
01:12:35.000What are you trying to accomplish by doing this?
01:12:37.000And you don't think this debate threatens the civilian leadership of the military?
01:13:57.000I was down there for a totally different reason, and when I heard he was coming down to give a lecture, I had to use some of my old tradecraft to wangle a ticket, but I invested $40, and that still stings, by the way, and got into his lecture and sat near the microphone that would be used for questions and answers.
01:14:18.000So it was fortuitous, and I guess what really turned me on or off, depending on how you look at it, Alex, is when one of those ladies who was protesting said, you know, you've told a lot of lies, you've told a lot of lies,
01:14:34.000And Rumsfeld, you've probably seen him do this, he sort of wrung his hands and said, gosh, you know, when people accuse the President of the United States of telling lies, I just, you know, she didn't accuse the President of the United States, she accused Rumsfeld.
01:14:52.000But he went on and he said, that is just so corrosive, so destructive of the trust that is necessary for government to work.
01:15:05.000And then he went on to the next question and I said to myself, oh my goodness, you know, I have to ask some question of him just to throw his words back on him and show that he's the consummate liar.
01:15:18.000As luck would have it, I got second in line and was able to do that on live TV.
01:15:24.000Now let's be clear, and you're right, Atlanta, you're there, there are people who are standing up saying things, but you're in the line to ask questions, that's why you're mic'd, that's why we can hear you, but then some of the media tried to imply that you were a heckler, when in reality you were there asking questions, and then security came over and was, you know, basically telling you to knock it off.
01:15:45.000Can you go over what actually happened there?
01:16:14.000And since he knew the cameras were coming well from the back, he placed himself around and in front of me, put his elbow in my solar plexus, and started driving me out of the arena.
01:16:27.000And that's when I cried out, this is America.
01:16:31.000And when Rumsfeld saw that, he had an instant decision to make.
01:16:38.000And he made the right one from his point of view.
01:16:40.000I mean, it just would have been Pretty bad PR to have someone who was simply asking him a question, which he already had lied about, to be sort of carried out of this conference.
01:16:53.000Well, Bush had me kidnapped at a press conference for asking a question he didn't like, and he directed them, they grabbed me, they put me in the police car, drove me around for an hour, threw me out on the side of the highway.
01:17:03.000So, this has been going on for a while, but what does it say about the mentality that you're in line to ask a question And Rumsfeld hasn't even told them to grab you, but still, they're physically manhandling you.
01:17:16.000Well, somebody pointed out, some very acute observer, that Rumsfeld did sort of give a little wink to the back of the room when he got into a little bit of trouble with me.
01:17:28.000Yeah, they look at him and then look at you.
01:17:29.000Yeah, and then the guy came down, and then when Rumsfeld saw the choice here had me carried out, Uh, or try to, you know, try to persist a little bit and put me down.
01:17:40.000Uh, he of course is the champion Princeton debater and, uh, he exuded this confidence and said, oh no, no, no, let him stay for a second.
01:17:50.000And thankfully that second expanded into two more minutes.
01:18:11.000Well, just focusing on Rumsfeld, you know, none other than pundit Jim Hoagland, no liberal heat, Has pointed out that when Rumsfeld runs into difficulty, he expands the problem.
01:18:29.000I worry about Iran, which seems to be next on their agenda.
01:18:33.000Doesn't make any sense, but neither did Iraq.
01:18:36.000Yeah, let's talk about, let's talk about Olbert coming here, uh, we've got Blair coming to the U.S., they're having the war councils, and we talk about that Ponzi scheme always inflating it, you know, the next crisis to cover the last.
01:18:50.000We'll be right back with Ray McGovern.
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01:24:17.000Bush and company, in their vision, which is well explained in the Project for the New American Century documents, are determined to dominate that part of the world.
01:24:29.000And it's kind of hard just to say, hey, we're the sole remaining superpower of the world, and so we're just going to do what we have to to dominate that part of the world.
01:24:38.000What they think they need to do more cleverly is to say, our ally, Israel.
01:24:48.000There is no defense treaty with Israel.
01:24:51.000Our ally, Israel, is in danger from nuclear weapons being delivered by Iran.
01:24:57.000It doesn't matter that they're seven or eight years off of a nuclear weapon, but this is the argument.
01:25:02.000And so it's much easier for the Bush regime to say, look, This is a matter of a mutual security obligation, of which there exists none, and we need to spring to Israel's defense.
01:25:18.000Of course, Congress is beholden to all that money they get from the Israel lobby, and specifically AIPAC.
01:25:24.000And so, just as they did with Iraq in writing letters to the President, we need regime change in Iraq, they're doing the same thing now for regime change in Iran.
01:25:36.000Now, as far as the Israelis are concerned, this is great for them.
01:25:40.000None of the usual obligations of a mutual defense treaty.
01:25:45.000They don't even have to tell us when they take off after another country.
01:25:49.000And more than that, they get a mutual defense treaty in reality, because the President, as he has three times in the last couple of months, keeps referring to Israel as our ally, to whom we are obligated to spring to their defense.
01:26:02.000Well, Ray McGovern, isn't it really a mutual attack treaty?
01:26:06.000Because Israel's saying they're going to probably go ahead and attack Iran, and then I see people in the Knesset every week criticizing the U.S.
01:27:01.000Marines and Special Forces ordered there by the same Donald Rumsfeld, without any congressional authorization, without any specific decision memorandum.
01:27:11.000But think about what a provocation that is!
01:27:13.000Iran knows that we've got troops in their country!
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01:27:38.000We will have three aircraft carrier task forces in the Persian Gulf in another week, and all the propaganda business has been orchestrated.
01:27:49.000It's very much like a few weeks before we attacked Iraq.
01:27:53.000And then we add this fake story, totally manufactured about making Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians wear pieces of cloth, including yellow for Jews.
01:28:03.000Turns out it was completely and totally made up.
01:28:06.000Even the Jewish member of the Mullahs, or of their ruling council there, said it's total propaganda.
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01:33:50.000Mr. McGovern, go through this for us, because we know that they're saying they want to hit them, we know they're saying they need to hit them, we know that Cheney's saying they can have nukes within a month, when the CIA's own assessment last year is ten years, we have you talking about that in the new film Terror Storm, but earlier you said seven years, I guess there's some new assessment, and then we have all this propaganda, we were talking about that before the break, claiming they were going to put
01:34:19.000Special symbols on Jews and Christians.
01:34:48.000And that last report, that I have at least, they will all be there in another week or so.
01:34:53.000The folly of this attack can be explained partly by the same folly that we experienced in Vietnam where Well, the folks with the blue suits and the stars on their lapels tell the president, hey, you know, we can bomb the hell out of these folks.
01:35:13.000And, you know, we have these precision bombs and we can just do the job.
01:35:16.000Don't have to worry about anything else.
01:35:19.000And so it seems to me that the first attempt will simply be bombing using stealth bombers and others and cruise missiles and so forth in hopes that enough of the known facilities having to do with nuclear facilities there in Iran will be taken out.
01:35:38.000What these folks never think of is what happens the next day, you know?
01:35:42.000And that's, I think, what you're asking.
01:35:44.000Well, what happens the next day is this.
01:35:48.000Iran is in command, and I mean in command, of a terrorist network worldwide that makes Al-Qaeda look like, you know, the Mount Sinairs for the volleyball team.
01:36:03.000These guys really can do a lot of damage, and they can do it here in this country as well.
01:37:04.000The problem is, you know, where are our guys?
01:37:07.000Our guys are all over Tikrit and Baghdad and Ramadi, and they're looking for terrorists, of course, and so they're not in any position to contend with an invasion of Iraq, an invasion welcomed by the local Sunni population.
01:37:24.000Well, my worst fear is that when that goes up, or that comes down, as we say these days, there's going to be an irresistible urge To use what we do have.
01:37:35.000And of course what we do have are these mini nukes.
01:37:39.000And this crowd makes no real distinction between high explosive weaponry and these little mini nukes.
01:37:45.000They're, you know, they're no big deal.
01:37:48.000And that will unleash a Pandora's box and we'll be in real deep kinship, not only in the immediate area, but But people like the Russians and people like the Chinese.
01:37:59.000Well, that's the point I wanted to bring up next, but let me just digress back with a few questions.
01:38:02.000Jack Straw, big neocon, pro-war, a few weeks ago he says openly, this is crazy, the words he used were your words, this is crazy to attack Iran, it'll be total destabilization, World War III, boom, he's forced to resign a day later.
01:38:19.000Yeah, you know, that's what happens, you know, if you don't get with the program.
01:38:24.000Uh, you either get forced to resign or you do resign.
01:38:27.000This doesn't happen very much... But it's gotta be bad when even their stalwarts like Strom, and we've had now 8 generals, it's not 6, there were 2 before him, 8 generals come out and say that this is totally horrible.
01:38:40.000Mr. McGovern, we know that Rumsfeld isn't stupid.
01:38:45.000And clearly, you talked about when he's in trouble, widening something's the plan.
01:38:49.000They know Iran's going to go totally ape.
01:38:51.000They know there's going to be attacks all over the Middle East and the Western world.
01:38:54.000They'll call them all terrorist attacks.
01:38:56.000And then we're going to see Bush widen it, national draft, and then, oh, America's in trouble, our troops are being overrun, we've got to fully commit, I mean, isn't that really their plan?
01:39:08.000And then I think you will see Bush's approval ratings explode, because Americans will get behind the leader, but it'll be a crisis he puts us in the way of by design.
01:39:17.000I mean, sir, you're a great analyst, I agree with your analysis, I mean, don't you see there, or do you agree, or do you disagree, or give us your take, on they're doing this on purpose.
01:40:20.000I can see Karl Rove saying, look, what you need to do is become a war president again.
01:40:25.000Get us involved in something pretty big here, and then strut around and say you can't vote for a bunch of Democrats to pull the rug out from under me while there's a war going on in November, you know, that kind of thing.
01:40:36.000So I see that as one of the primary incentives for them to unleash this thing, and again, they have no real They have no real expertise to draw on.
01:40:46.000I mean, we suggested and we pleaded with the President before the war in Iraq.
01:40:53.000On the same day as Colin Powell spoke, we finished our memo saying, Mr. President, we strongly urge you to broaden the circle of your advisors beyond those already bent on a war for which we see no cogent reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic.
01:41:13.000Now, you know, we take no delight in being right there, but we take great pain and great worry of seeing the circle narrowing even more, with not even Colin Powell, for whatever he was worth, he knew a couple things these others didn't, he's not even there again.
01:41:32.000And I just add this footnote here because it seems really relevant.
01:41:37.000The only time that, in my experience, I've been watching things for 43 years now in Washington,
01:41:44.000The only time we really came close to a nuclear exchange was during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and we avoided that primarily for one reason and one reason only, and that was that John Kennedy had the presence of mind to insist that Llewellyn Thompson, who had just retired from being ambassador to Moscow for a scaty eight years, okay, to insist that Llewellyn Thompson be there at every, every decision meeting, every consultation meeting.
01:42:12.000And so when Curtis LeMay, the head of the Air Force, had his nuclear weapons all loaded up in his bombers, and they were all set to take off, Llewellyn Thompson said, Sir, Mr. President, I do not agree.
01:42:26.000And the operator looked up and he says, What did you say?
01:42:30.000And then John Kennedy listened to him and what Llewellyn Thompson said was this, Look, you have two messages from Herschel, One is a conciliatory one, one is a bellicose one, probably done with the generals looking over his shoulder.
01:43:06.000Okay, and it's, you know, the parallel is really intriguing, because the bottom line is, Alex, and this is really scary... The bottom line is they...
01:43:18.000The Iranian president lost a lot of face doing that.
01:43:37.000We have the cabal that is so well described by Colin Powell's Chief of State, Larry Wilkerson.
01:43:43.000They're making all the decisions, and they're the ones responsible for Iraq.
01:43:49.000In a lighter vein, Alex, I have a solution.
01:43:53.000What we ought to do is have Congress pass a bill Making it unlawful for President Bush to attack any country whose president has a name that Bush can't pronounce.
01:44:08.000That should give us a couple of weeks, at least, and, you know, it would be... Ahmed Ejad, I have trouble pronouncing it.
01:44:15.000I do, too, but it would take, I think, our president for a while to do that.
01:44:57.000I guess the neocons, if they're not trying to create a big crisis to widen something, maybe they think there'll be some domestic uprising, CIA manipulated replay of Kermit Roosevelt in 1953.
01:45:10.000You know, you've said that the Mosque bombing, some of the things we've seen, have Western intelligence written all over it.
01:45:15.000What about our own governments, or someone in the government, or a private group, staging some event, and then claiming Iran has carried it out as a prelude to attacking Iran, or even once Iran is attacked, intelligence agencies launching something in Europe or the US, and then claiming Iran did that.
01:45:42.000That's altogether possible, and I would say even probable, because they would need some proximate cause, some Causus Belli, to justify really unleashing things on Iran.
01:45:54.000And that would help, of course, and I would put very little past this crew.
01:46:01.000Record of dissembling and disingenuousness is unparalleled.
01:46:07.000Well look at the, which I'm glad you brought up on national TV.
01:46:32.000And, you know, the whole thing was that they knew that there weren't weapons of mass destruction, so they're going to have to do something else or something to hasten the process of doing a war.
01:46:41.000Let me say another word, Alex, about the electoral business here.
01:46:45.000The stakes could not be larger for this administration because if the Democrats take the House in November, There will be, in my view, impeachment proceedings for sure.
01:46:59.000I've had two congressmen on this show say that as well.
01:47:01.000It's 100% impeachment, then the whole crime cabal will get blown.
01:47:06.000There will be investigations for the next two years.
01:47:19.000Yeah, so there's a lot riding on this thing.
01:47:24.000Uh, it behooves the President, or, you know, I'm sure Cheney, Gonzalez, Rove, and the rest of them are saying, Mr. President, we've got to prevent this at any cost, and if it means, you know, using our smart weaponry to To do the job on Iran?
01:48:49.000The other thing is that, you know, from a general perspective, the Israelis do not want to take any chances that any country, especially Iran, would erode its nuclear monopoly in the Middle East.
01:49:03.000They have 300 to 400 nuclear weapons there.
01:49:06.000Nobody mentions that, but they want to keep that monopoly, and they see it as a big infringement on their security, where Iran could get even just one or two weapons.
01:49:18.000Now, you know, Ahmadinejad makes it easy for the Israelis to raise the flag.
01:49:24.000If they look, they're going to zomp us as soon as they get a weapon.
01:49:27.000I don't think it will happen, because that would be suicide for Iran.
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01:53:54.000In the Intelligence Authorization Bill that Pete Hoekstra, the
01:54:00.000The head of the House Intelligence Committee, he put in a provision which says this, the Director of National Intelligence shall prepare a study in 90 days to determine whether he, under existing authorities, can suspend the pensions of CIA pensioners for talking about classified material.
01:54:28.000Or, whether he needs additional authorities.
01:54:31.000Now, that's creeping fascism right there.
01:54:34.000In other words, they determine what's classified information, and if that gets passed, I'm not going to be able to talk on your radio program anymore.
01:54:42.000I'll be labeled liable to be ramped up here in some sort of dragnet.
01:54:47.000So that's the kind of thing that's happening.
01:54:49.000On the NSA thing, As you probably know, Congressman Hinchey from New York asked the Justice Department to look into what advice the Justice Department had given NSA to say that that thing was legal, and guess what happened?
01:55:05.000After two months, the Justice Department responded to Congressman Hinchey saying, sorry, we have to drop the investigation because NSA will not give us the clearances we need to investigate NSA.
01:55:17.000That's happened now with the FCC as well.
01:55:19.000And that's dictatorship when they say, oh, the military or this government arm is telling us in enforcement what we can do.
01:55:26.000What do you see happening with Iran and Syria?
01:55:30.000If Iran is attacked, what do you think Russia and China will do?
01:55:33.000We know Russia just sold a bunch of high-tech anti-aircraft systems to Iran.
01:55:39.000Well, I think that if I were Ahmadinejad, I would be asking the Chinese and the Russians for some sort of Military support.
01:55:47.000Some sort of pledge that they won't stand idly by to watch this kind of exercise.
01:55:54.000What Ahmadinejad has already done was quite unprecedented.
01:55:57.000The first time in 27 years that they communicated with us that long letter.
01:56:03.000I advise everyone to download that letter and read it.
01:56:06.000It's really quite ironic, citing Bush's professed Christianity And asking him to square that with the behavior that he's exhibited.
01:56:32.000And I'd warn the Azerbaijanis, you know.
01:56:36.000The Azerbaijanis That ethnic group comprises about 20-25% of the Iranian nation and they are being egged on by all manner of folks supported by us.
01:56:50.000I would warn the other Biden government that if they let the US or anybody else, UK, use their country as a platform for this sort of thing, that they can expect some retaliation from Iran.
01:57:02.000And that's a credible threat, because Iran has that capability.
01:57:06.000Then I'd seek support from the other states in the area, because this would be beyond the pale.
01:57:11.000They really need that kind of extra support.
01:58:14.000World War III, Ray McGovern is predicting that there's a good chance that there will be an attack on Iran.
01:58:19.000I want him to recap and add any addendums to that, more information, and just any other key points you'd like to make in the four minutes we've got left.
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01:58:52.000Ray McGovern, just getting more into when you think the attack will take place, what percentages you think the chances are, and hopefully how we as Americans can stop this.
01:59:06.000Well, I'm a little ahead of my colleagues and veteran intelligence professionals for sanity.
01:59:14.000We all pretty much agree that an attack is likely before the election.
01:59:18.000And we all agree that it has to do largely with the election.
01:59:23.000As for timing, I see a likelihood that it could come as early as late June or early July.
01:59:29.000Most of my colleagues predicted August, September, maybe an October surprise even.
01:59:37.000My thinking is that for it to be October, that would be so crass and so transparent that even this crowd would shy away from making it so obvious.
01:59:47.000But the propaganda has been, the basis has been laid.
02:00:14.000Well, I think if we have armed forces in Iran, which I am reliably informed we do, Well, we need to go to our Senators and Representatives and say, under whose authority has Rumsfeld put these folks in Iran?
02:00:29.000And we should sit in their offices until they see us and answer our question, because this is beyond the pale.
02:00:35.000And if we don't start putting our bodies into it, instead of writing op-eds or making speeches like I do, if we don't put our bodies into it, well, you know, Martin Luther King Jr.
02:00:45.000said one time, there is such a thing as too late.
02:00:49.000Well, I mean, in all fairness to you, you went and physically protested to Rumsfeld.
02:00:54.000You've gone to his house a few weeks ago and protested at his home.
02:00:57.000Yeah, I'm getting a little better at that, but I'm trying to convince people that we need to do more than the usual, that these are perilous times, and that we have to discern what the best thing to do is, hopefully.
02:01:14.000Yeah, I do think that because there's so much coming down now and so many egregious things that we don't really have any choice whether we think it's likely or not.
02:01:24.000So a few more whistleblowers could save this country bringing out more dirt right now?
02:01:29.000Well, that we're hoping and we have had, as you know, some success in that.
02:01:34.000That's why they're applying light detector tests to everybody they can find.
02:01:40.000And, you know, even if people judge the likelihood to be less than even that this next war can be prevented, well, you know, we're not supposed to be about success.
02:01:51.000We're supposed to be about being faithful to the people who created this great country, and we owe it to them.
02:01:57.000In fact, the famous statement, I believe, of George Washington, is, duty is ours, consequence belongs to God.
02:02:39.000We'll be right back with the FEMA News.
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02:07:27.000We've got to go get Pastor Butch Paw's article about this and post it.
02:07:31.000We're going to write our own article about it.
02:07:34.000I know for a fact that FEMA, going back with the Secure Corps program, a division of AmeriCorps, it was in the Philadelphia News, it was in Daily News, it was in several other publications.
02:07:47.000It's training high school students and middle school students with M-16s, we're talking semi-autos, AR-15 variant, in warrant service, fighting terrorists, reporting on their parents, BATF, and hundreds of school districts we know of.
02:08:03.000We first learned of this six years ago in North Carolina.
02:08:08.000But it's nationwide, have deputies paid by FEMA grant, but it goes through BATF, to have whole semesters in 7th and 8th grade, where they have access to the students on the playground and at lunch, they have them write dossiers on their parents, what's in the medicine cabinet.
02:08:27.000We have had The head officer, the commander on from the Alabama Defense Forces, they cordon off parts of cities randomly and search women and children.
02:08:36.000We have photos and video of this in Martial Law, my new film.
02:08:39.000They search everyone, including three-year-old children, training them to be slaves.
02:09:54.000Now, under FEMA, we know they have a program to, quote, reach out to the churches.
02:09:59.000And you see the billboards about, quote, get ready.
02:10:04.000Ready.gov and all this, and the surface is just get ready for your house to be prepared and what to do in an emergency, have some food.
02:10:11.000But when you actually go to these meetings, we've been to these in Austin, we have video of this.
02:10:15.000The Ritter shot video of it, but wouldn't let me have it for a film for some reason.
02:10:18.000Maybe I should beg them again, let them, get them to give it to me.
02:10:20.000But it's the same stuff in that terror manual from Texas.
02:10:23.000The Feds wrote about people wearing blue jeans, people that have cell phones, people that are nice to the police, those that make frequent references to the U.S.
02:11:05.000He joins us now to give you inside details of the oath they give to FEMA.
02:11:10.000Because people know the preachers are trusted.
02:11:13.000And they're setting the preachers up as Judas Iscariot, Judas goats.
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02:11:26.000But you've got rams in both varieties.
02:11:28.000You've got the billy goats in both varieties.
02:11:31.000And they are trained to lead occasionally for the slaughter or the sale, because people do also slaughter these for meat, lamb chops or goat.
02:12:25.000I was invited to come because I had done disaster relief work with another church denominational group years ago, and I wanted to see what was going on.
02:12:33.000They were planning for Any kind of bioterrorism, they said, so I wanted to find out what it was, it being FEMA.
02:12:39.000And since we know the director, it got me in real good.
02:12:41.000Again, I want to add, on the surface it all sounds reasonable, oh just emergency planning, that's on the billboards in the literature.
02:12:48.000You go to these meetings, tell us what happened.
02:12:50.000It was wonderful stuff when they started out, but it immediately turned into, this is for a natural disaster, a tornado flood, or any act of bioterrorism, or a nationally declared emergency.
02:13:03.000And so I lit up to that one, and the spokesperson there was from the state FEMA office, who also was the trainer for pastors in their training program for pastors.
02:13:12.000He said, your job, pastors, is to get to your congregations and preach to them Romans 13.
02:13:19.000And that's the part that says you obey the higher powers.
02:13:22.000And he was saying you have to teach them to obey their government.
02:13:35.000And so he's telling us that he's telling us and the thing that really got us started on this and when I started contacting people is when he said the problem with with local enforcement of a federal or state mandate that is quarantine or relocation is These are the terms he used for a declaration of martial law based on whatever disaster it might be.
02:14:11.000He said, you know, the individualistic effort that stands up and says, this is my property, you'll prize guns from my cold, dead hand kind of thing.
02:15:18.000He said that your pastor's job is going to be to deal with the individuals, not just in counseling, But you're going to have to control some folks who may not be so cooperative.
02:15:28.000He said, but that's going to be a law enforcement issue.
02:15:46.000We get the picture that we, me and others who are aware of this, We're going to be standing at some farmer's end of his lane while he's standing there with his double barrel, wherever he's got.
02:16:59.000We were told then that we can't handle everything, so there'll be the professionals there helping us out.
02:17:03.000But we were told we would have to take mental health training.
02:17:07.000And to make it palatable to the other pastors, and these are their words now, that we won't call it mental health, we'll call it spiritual care.
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02:21:48.000national program of the federal emergency management agency to turn leading pastors priest rabbis you name it and the secret police enforcers Gun confiscation, martial law.
02:22:01.000Remember, in my film Road to Tyranny, I haven't asked the pastor if he's seen this, we have FEMA in Kansas City months before 9-11 saying the Founding Fathers are terrorists, all Christians are terrorists, And basically how we're the enemy and have to die.
02:22:19.000That's always been FEMA's job since 1979.
02:22:22.000Now they're really beefing up to do it.
02:22:24.000Pastor, please continue with how you guys have to be mental health, but that isn't good, so it'll be called spiritual care with another Orwellian term.
02:22:33.000Right, and they use all kinds of terms for us.
02:22:37.000They told us that in the event of a quarantine, and they were already saying, you don't quarantine for the bird flu, but they're making arrangements for that, they being the groups that we're dealing with now.
02:22:47.000They aren't using the term quarantine, but this is the term they're going to be using.
02:23:08.000They said that the role of the health district, locally and countywide, would be to provide public information, prevent the spread of disease, and in the event of any outbreak, bioterrorists, whatever they have, That there would be a mass vaccination and prophylaxis.
02:23:22.000And they have a term, they have a program called, this is national, this is not just our local, Pills in People's Palms in 48 hours.
02:23:38.000We were told that if the Walmart stores, we were told that if all these other stores, They're getting involved in this because there's such a horrendous fear of the bird flu.
02:23:48.000And so immediately we went from the focus on some type of natural disaster to the bird flu and they're pushing up their timeline to get everything done by August 31st.
02:24:00.000And so they're having a flurry of these meetings locally here and elsewhere.
02:24:05.000The gentleman who trained us confirmed that by saying that this is the man who works for FEMA, that he's on the payroll.
02:24:11.000He said he was just at a meeting in North Carolina where 26 states were represented.
02:24:18.000And he goes, we're very excited that this program, pastor training, mental health, all this, is getting down to the county level in at least 13,250 counties nationwide.
02:24:28.000And they're talking in the month of June and July.
02:24:30.000Now, whenever they have Urban Warfare training drills for conditioning for martial law, which their own documents admit, they always tell the town, you're the first, you're special, as they told you, and then they tell you a few months in, oh, by the way, it's 13,000 counties.
02:24:43.000They had us, they had these guys sitting there believing this, they were all puffed up.
02:24:46.000And I was, I read right through it, because I listened to you, I know others, been doing this for years.
02:24:52.000They're not going to play games with me at least, but it's interesting to be there and listen to this information that they're spitting out.
02:25:01.000Because I want to make the point, they can have a small burp for release, create the hysteria, lock down a state, then claim it was successful, to beta test it for the next big event that will be the big one.
02:25:11.000They mentioned that one of the reasons that they're really pushing pastors to get on board is that we can help recruit other people for Citizen Corps.
02:25:20.000And Citizen Corps will be the guys who are going around checking doors kind of thing.
02:25:25.000And they said the benefit of being in Citizen Corps for pastors and also locals is this, that it will put you on a higher list for antivirals or vaccinations.
02:25:36.000In other words, if you volunteer, you get vaccinated and get your pills first and so does your family.
02:25:41.000You don't volunteer, you don't get the drugs.
02:25:44.000And more than that, you'll get the food shipments during an emergency if you've got the little I'm a Minion badge.
02:25:49.000And at the same time, at the same... Please continue.
02:25:57.000Three months ago, it was relocation quarantine centers, and now it's community aid centers.
02:26:02.000And these are going to be activated at the local schools, and they said this is where the Citizen Corps volunteers will be.
02:26:07.000And that's why they're putting fences up around schools, making them mini-prisons with cameras, doors that automatically lock down with wire mesh in the windows.
02:26:16.000Right, and where we are, they have the roads circuited off that in the event of some kind of quarantine, some relocation, they know what roads to This is bombshell after bombshell.
02:26:28.000In the article we write, we'll put all these bullet points.
02:26:30.000They already have the choke points and the lockdowns ready.
02:26:33.000And this is one of the more frightening things, is that they're passing this off as for the common good.
02:26:39.000It's the typical garbage drivel you've heard all these years, but they're so bold about it.
02:26:43.000And now, when they're bringing pastors in, there's so many pastors who are so desperate for church growth at any cost, that they're jumping on the bandwagon here.
02:26:51.000They want their name out front in this.
02:26:53.000They want their church name out front.
02:26:54.000Well, I want to add that when the economy implodes by design, many people will be forced to take jobs with a paltry payment.
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02:31:00.000Callers, we're going to open the phones up here in a few minutes for specific questions about martial law and the takeover program we're discussing.
02:31:10.000We have the documents, we're getting more of the documents, we have mainstream news articles about the program, but we're giving you the inside scoop of the details and I'm telling you it all checks out with the information I have in the past.
02:31:20.000We're going to write an article, I think it should have the title like, National Secret FEMA Program Recruiting Preachers to Prepare and Pacify Public for Martial Law.
02:31:37.000And then sub-headline, Relocation Camps, Forced Inoculations, these are the new, this ties into the, this ties into the Houston Chronicle, the Emergency FEMA Camps, all of this, we need to put in the article, all the past FEMA and state emergency manuals, we need to put in there the CLIP for Martial Law, where the firefighter and police are in the group, they're in Kansas City, we're on the air right now, God bless KCXL, folks who support them, one of our oldest and best affiliates.
02:32:06.000A firefighter there locally sent me the video of a room full of police and firemen being taught that all Christians are terrorists, Founding Fathers are terrorists.
02:32:12.000I mean, this sounds crazy, but this is really going on behind the scenes everywhere.
02:32:17.000And we also need in this article, we're going to write to challenge all the listeners of this show to take these documents that we're going to be posting tonight and tomorrow in this article To print off the documents, to print off the news article we're going to write, to print off the mainstream news articles, to put them in folders, to take it to their preacher, and if the preacher doesn't respond in a week, say, are you part of this?
02:32:39.000To stand up in the church, to make up a hundred folders, or fifty folders, or five hundred, however many are in your church, hand them out, stand up and yell and say, argue on the payroll!
02:33:33.000Pastor, the statements I've just made, do you agree with that idea of getting people, getting their facts together, going to their pastors, assistant pastors, and finding out if this is going on?
02:33:43.000In fact, at first, maybe being friendly about it before you give them the document and to see if this is going on.
02:34:56.000Well, I think the people who failed to know our history, those in power, know it all too well.
02:34:59.000coast now they're going to lead the destruction of America well I think the people have failed to know our history those in power know it all too well and they know who to subvert they know who to co-op and they go after the pastors I mean, what better group of people to get in there and get them to change?
02:35:17.000The revolution was led by pastors, and now what do we see here?
02:35:21.000Well, under the faith-based initiative, $10 billion a year to start to pay off churches, are they promising money down the road during an emergency?
02:35:30.000No, they haven't even mentioned anything like that, but I'll tell you now, there are several guys who are involved who are already getting money from the faith-based thing, and I mean as far as getting the outward money.
02:35:40.000They've been turned on to grants by our government and said, look, this is where you can get your grants for this program.
02:35:45.000So when you do this, the skids get greased?
02:35:58.000They're doing it, and right now they're feeding off the prestige of these people, how these pastors want to be stroked by the secular world.
02:36:10.000I don't think it'll come up eventually.
02:36:11.000Well, Pastor, I've been ranting and raving here, but I think we all should be upset.
02:36:17.000Can we get into the Loyalty Oath required?
02:36:19.000I have an article here out of Loyalty Oath required of Illinois FEMA volunteers.
02:36:24.000They're now getting students, politicians, pastors.
02:36:27.000Can you get into the Loyalty Oath that you were given?
02:36:31.000Same loyalty oath, and a lot of us rebelled against that one.
02:36:34.000A lot of us being those who just heard about it, didn't think it was a good idea, but what they've said is, you don't have to make the pledge, all you gotta do is make an affirmation, and everybody was happy.
02:37:14.000Well, this loyalty oath basically says that while you're on duty under the protection, that we get workers' comp through that.
02:37:23.000So if we're injured in disaster relief or someone shoots us because we're trying to get in their farm, that we're covered and that we promise not to overthrow the government or actually participate while we're on the payroll, which is basically the payroll is workers' comp.
02:37:38.000Now the problem with that, of course, you can see as far as I go, you're not supposed to be with any group that advocates the overthrow of the government while you're on that time so pastors who go there and if they happen to be like myself but i'm not going to serve serve with them but you know who happen to have some allegiances that would be contrary to what they see that could be classified as a terrorist group my christians already are classified as terrorists i want to back up just a moment yes notice at first it's hey come on in Then, oh, it's for bird flu.
02:38:07.000And then by a month into it, oh, it's for people that want to fight us or overthrow us.
02:38:13.000What is the government planning that they know there's going to be mass physical revolts?
02:38:18.000You know, I talked with Brother Butch about this and just briefly mentioned this.
02:38:59.000Burn flu doesn't even need to break out.
02:39:01.000It's just always ratcheting it up, any smoke screen, to create the secret tattletale squads.
02:39:06.000Right, and we live in a place where people should come to your door and say, hey, I live next door, down the road, how you doing, blah, blah, blah.
02:39:44.000What's happening is that neighbors complain against neighbors, and then they call the local sheriff, or they call the health department, or they call some other agency, and they're knocking on doors already, and people are already of the mindset accepting that kind of authority and that kind of law enforcement.
02:40:02.000So what I'm saying is, When it comes down to a real disaster, that's who they're going to turn to.
02:40:07.000They're already being told, don't handle things yourself, get rid of the neighborhood quality.
02:40:11.000Well, this is all just drilling us for Marshall Long.
02:40:14.000Well, you know, I'm sure you're quite aware that they have a policy called, a program called Peer to Peer, and that was under FEMA, it was under DHS, Department of Homeland Security.
02:40:25.000And now it's been turned over to this National Volunteer Organization and Disaster Relief, where they train neighbors, or they train a family or a home in one neighborhood to pretty much oversee the neighborhood.
02:41:42.000And this isn't a place where We are pretty much independent, fiercely independent, I guess what we used to be.
02:41:48.000But what we're seeing in here, it's happening all over the country, and I believe it's just a mindset being produced by years and years of consciously getting on television, making things look the worst.
02:41:59.000People are starting to buy it now, because now it's coming home.
02:42:02.000People can stop guns from coming to their front door, but the flu, they have a problem with that.
02:42:06.000A lot of people call it the sixth sense, I call it discernment.
02:42:11.000And this is, the globalists play a trick, and I want to see if you can, you sound like a very intelligent man, probably smarter than I am, so you can probably get what I'm saying if I'm able to put it out there properly.
02:42:22.000Let me try to phrase this the best I can.
02:42:26.000People deep down know something's wrong.
02:42:44.000crises but we know something real is scary going on and they misdirect our energies that are really aware of them into something else so I think a lot of the fear is people know something's wrong and it's the government so the government misdirects it onto their neighbors and other people do you see what I'm saying exactly right and that and that puts the government in charge they call that a spirit don't they yes it is a spirit of A spirit of fear and enslavement.
02:43:18.000They can't enforce their authority, but they sure can win the hearts and minds of people by putting a fear into them.
02:43:24.000And they misdirect it, and it gets put on someone else, and people feel like they've accomplished something.
02:43:30.000When they see a sheriff show up at a door for a minor infraction, they know they can do that when it's a major infraction.
02:43:35.000And I'm not saying you shouldn't call the authorities sometimes, but my goodness, these people do this all the time to everybody in this country.
02:43:41.000And they think that's the way it should be, so our government has misdirected it, and they've stolen that power.
02:43:47.000And now they're going to have the real Animal ID Act, where there are $2,000 a day fines, enforcers, microchips and everything.
02:44:48.000I appreciate what you're doing there, Pastor, exposing what's really going on here.
02:44:54.000Do you happen to have any kind of idea what timeline?
02:44:58.000I know you said they're trying to get this all implemented by August 31st, I believe you said.
02:45:03.000I mean, it seems like I've heard people say some kind of attack on Iran in October and maybe some kind of catalyst here that would, you know, start this into the process.
02:45:19.000It seems like there's many drills running the first part of June.
02:45:25.000I know they're planning on detonating a large nuke out in Las Vegas.
02:45:30.000It's supposed to be seen from Las Vegas.
02:45:37.000Well I think that's going to be shown to Iran as a deterrent of what's going to happen to them if they don't stop their nuke program or their oil bourse program that they just started.
02:45:49.000Let me add something to what you're saying that you can go on and the pastor can comment.
02:45:53.000They have deadlines and then those come and go and then there's the next goal, the next goal.
02:45:58.000So a lot of times it doesn't mean that the deadline of August whatever means that's when it's going to happen.
02:46:03.000That means that that's the deadline for part one of the program, then they'll just keep expanding it.
02:46:09.000Exactly right, and that's what I wanted to comment on.
02:46:12.000Our local EMA director said August 31st is when all the counties in the United States are supposed to be online with their disaster relief program, and that includes the training, the completed training of pastors.
02:46:24.000And she goes, we don't expect anything to happen until October or November with the bird flu, but then that's an interesting date for you to bring up, Scott, to say that we're talking October or something there.
02:46:35.000There's so much going around, but the They just want things in place, just like Alex has said, so that they take that next step.
02:46:42.000And once we're happy with August 31st, hey, we have a disaster plan in effect, thank God we don't have to use it, that's not the right attitude.
02:46:49.000Because they're going to go for more, and this is where it has to be stopped, right here at the beginning.
02:46:53.000Because once they accomplish something, they're going to keep pushing for more.
02:46:56.000Well, I predict Phase 2 will be identifying terrorists, and they'll give you, oh, they told you that?
02:47:02.000Because they're looking at We're having the second part of the training in June and that's where we deal with crowd control kind of issues.
02:47:11.000Their term is unruly people who won't follow directions.
02:47:14.000And that's where they're going to talk about suspected bioterrorism.
02:47:19.000Because we're in farm country, they're looking at animals and crops.
02:47:21.000Oh yes, there's just terrorists everywhere to launch bioattacks.
02:47:24.000They want to come right here to my little county and do their thing.
02:47:28.000And we just laugh about it, you know, but I understand why they want to do it.
02:47:31.000Well, the British government released foot-and-mouth.
02:47:33.000That's admitted, back of the paper, but it's admitted, so... Sure, and that's something that they were really hot on with syphilis mouth disease and saying that if that breaks out here, He said you're going to see a quarantine.
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02:53:05.000Pastor, I want to keep you five minutes to the next hour and then let you go, but I want to take a call here in just a second, but any other key points that we haven't covered that you want to add about the training?
02:53:15.000And then my last question, I will give you after the break, I want you to answer it after the break, and that is, what some of the other pastors you've talked to, are some of them waking up, or are they all just You got the spirit of the devil in them?
02:53:26.000Are they deceived going along with this?
02:53:30.000Briefly, just some of the things that they tell pastors, and for pastors who are called to preach the Word of God, we're being told that in a time of crisis that we just can't use the Bible.
02:53:42.000And these pastors are just sucking this up, and they're telling us that If you're going to use the Bible, just set it down next to you.
02:55:22.000And so this is what we're looking for.
02:55:25.000Holding off talking to the other pastors and holding off going public here because I don't want too much to go out, but I'm sure being here on this one and also the Butch Powers Program, people are picking it up locally as well, so it'll be in time.
02:55:36.000Pastors, I've not talked to them, just the ones who come to the training and they're pretty much typical.
02:55:41.000How many have been through the training and for your town, what percentage of the pastors do they represent?
02:55:46.000It started off with, we have about 78 pastors here in the area.
02:55:51.00044 responded favorably, 23 went through the training, and 19 raised their right hand.