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00:01:48.000They have these little remembrance propaganda 9-11 sites that they use to sell the destruction of our freedoms and the birth of their world government.
00:01:58.000There's dozens and dozens of them across the country.
00:03:10.000They're giving them a lot value and in some cases they're going to charge them rent for the last five years that they fought the city.
00:03:20.000So in the future if you fight the city, the county, or any other group taking your private property for a private interest You will not be paid fair value.
00:03:29.000In fact, you'll be paid almost nothing.
00:03:31.000Or you may even have to pay them money for the privilege of them taking your land.
00:03:38.000This is land of the slaves, home of the cowards.
00:03:42.000I mean, let's just boil down what it is here.
00:03:47.000City officials voted Monday night to evict residents who refused to leave their riverfront homes.
00:03:53.000Signaling that the end is near in an eminent domain dispute that reached the U.S.
00:04:10.000Private interests want your property for condominiums or for a chemical plant or for a pharmacological Headquarters for Big Pharma, and they just take it.
00:04:57.000PrisonPlanet.com Hello friends, Alex Jones here and I'm excited to announce we're going to have a huge 9-11 conference in downtown Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.
00:05:09.000We're expecting around 1,000 people in attendance.
00:05:12.000At this historic event, we will irrefutably document that 9-11 was an inside job, a self-inflicted wound, a false flag terror operation.
00:05:22.000The conference is titled 9-11 and the Neocon Agenda.
00:05:25.000I'm happy to announce the conference will feature presentations by incredible speakers like BYU physics professor Stephen Jones, the father of the Star Wars program, Lt.
00:05:34.000Robert Bowman, former top-level CIA analyst for Reagan and Bush, Ray McGovern, 9-11 hero William Rodriguez, author Webster Charnley, Professor Jim Fetzer, and many, many others, including special guests.
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00:08:34.000They have tested steel from the collapse.
00:08:38.000They were able to get a hold of specific steel that had been cut in neat little pieces during the collapse.
00:08:44.000And sure enough, All of the exact derivatives, the byproducts of thermite, but not just thermite cutting charges, the patented specific industry type of thermite that's had some other elements, some other chemicals added to it.
00:09:04.000He'll be joining us for this breaking news coming up in the next hour.
00:09:09.000It's so important that he hasn't been doing radio interviews.
00:09:13.000I was the first person to interview him on radio and then shortly after that he ceased doing radio interviews because he was besieged by calls.
00:09:20.000Well, he will be coming back out here on the air, coming up in the next hour, so you definitely do not want to miss that.
00:09:32.000In the meantime, in the last The first segment I mentioned the New London Connecticut ruling of last year saying that a private interest, and this is in the Supreme Court ruling, go and lobby a city, a county, or a state to take your private property that they are allowed to give campaign contributions to your elected servants.
00:09:58.000You notice they've been calling themselves officials, authorities, our bosses, oh your great excellency city council member, oh your honorable mayor, honorable judge.
00:10:28.000The average American's been told by the media that tyranny doesn't exist in America, never could, never will, and that everything's just fine, it can't happen here.
00:10:39.000City officials voted Monday night to evict residents who refused to leave the riverfront homes, signaling the end to the dispute that reached the U.S.
00:10:50.000The City Council approved the action 5-2.
00:10:53.000The City Attorney will now go to court to seek the removal of the remaining two families and obtain the properties in the Fort Trumbull neighborhood, a process that could take three months.
00:11:04.000The City has been trying for a decade to redevelop the once vibrant neighborhood at the point where the Thames River joins the sea.
00:11:13.000Several homeowners challenged the city's plans to seize the property and build a hotel, convention center, and upscale condominiums saying eminent domain can't be used to make way for private development.
00:11:35.000And then they go on to admit that for a decade they've quote been trying to take it.
00:11:40.000For a decade they've walked up to, in some cases, three-story beautiful Victorian homes with porches all the way around them, with multiple generations of families living there, doctors, lawyers, software engineers.
00:11:56.000These are the type of individuals we've interviewed on this broadcast.
00:12:00.000The houses are valued on average at over $300,000 a piece.
00:12:08.000We've seen private interest stealing land for a while for what they call blighted areas.
00:12:22.000Not a stupid football stadium, not a golf course, not a shopping mall.
00:12:26.000I don't care what economic development it brings to the area or if the real estate council wants to snatch the land so they can then make more profits off the property they own around it.
00:13:40.000That what they do is they come in and say well now we're going to give you $60,000 for your home that's $305,000 on the tax rolls because you refuse to sell it to us and so now we're just condemning it so when we do pay you off we're just going to give you $60-something thousand dollars and oh by the way we're then going to sue you claiming that for the five years you've been fighting us in one case of Michael Cristofaro who we've interviewed
00:14:09.000Because you held us up and that was really our property the whole time.
00:14:13.000So they're talking about nuisance, harassment, really racketeering type lawsuits.
00:14:20.000And there are several other facets that have made it into the national news, but the national media behaves as if it's kosher, as if it's okay, as if it's acceptable.
00:14:32.000And that is that multiple members of the City Council have their husbands and wives
00:14:37.000on the New London Connecticut Development Board or Development Group is a quasi private slash governmental organization that openly takes millions of dollars from the major developers to then go out and lobby and some of the husbands and wives of city council members are pulling down in some cases over two hundred thousand dollars a year.
00:15:04.000Oh that's not a conflict of interest One of the city councilmen's wife is on the board of the group that then comes and pays campaign contributions directly to the city council, to the county commissioners, and to many of the other elected officials, authorities, i.e.
00:15:29.000CNN had a poll on Lou Dobbs' program last year about this, and 99% of respondents, and it was a scientific poll, Ninety-nine percent are against the New London Connecticut ruling, Supreme Court ruling.
00:15:46.000Do they care that in Texas, 97% in the Houston Chronicle polls are against most of the major highways being converted over to toll roads and it's owned by a foreign company?
00:16:37.00095% of national polls are against the New Freedom Initiative for forced psychological testing of the entire population ages 4 to 18 and in some states now quote all pregnant women or anyone that goes to the hospital and the guidelines were openly written by the drug companies two years ago and one of their own executives went public in Ohio
00:16:58.000Last year, Ann reported and released the documents that they brag about how it's really a plan, no kidding, to put the population on drugs, forcibly, and they brag that they've got 15% of the kids on the drugs now, and that within five years they'll have 50% on drugs.
00:17:14.00095% of us in major polls are against it?
00:17:19.000It's unconstitutional, it's Soviet style, it's horrible, it's Brave New World, it's Big Brother.
00:17:27.000I mean, new freedom passed by some unbelievable majority, I forget the exact numbers, in the House and the Senate.
00:17:33.000Americans, 80 plus percent, are against the open borders.
00:17:38.000Republicans and Democrats vote together for total blanket amnesty, and then tell you it's not amnesty, and Bush puts one dozen guardsmen on the border, that's CNN, not 6,000.
00:18:32.000We have been totally hijacked as a nation.
00:18:37.000And now they're going to start taking the homes.
00:18:40.000Michael Cristofaro, one of two holdout residents, spoke out before the vote against the property seizures and singled out the five council members who ended up voting to take the property.
00:18:52.000You are a disgrace to the city, the state, and the nation, he said.
00:18:55.000The other holdout was Suzette Kello, who we also interviewed, the lead plaintiff.
00:19:03.000Governor M. Jody Rell had proposed letting the holdouts remain in their homes, but giving the city the right of first refusal if their houses were ever put up for sale.
00:19:12.000The eviction process, which includes another court fight, would take a month to three months.
00:19:21.000And a lot of people say, oh, that won't affect us, you know, my state won't do that.
00:19:25.000Right here in Texas, these are middle class people.
00:19:28.000Imagine, I mean, and the reason I make that point is not that middle class are any better than poor people, but it's when they start going after middle class people, we're in trouble.
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00:24:34.000And then all over the country, from New York to California to Oregon to Texas, I've even seen an Austin case where they're now trying to use this Supreme Court ruling.
00:24:43.000They're moving to go after private property.
00:24:46.000And that is so un-American, so anti-freedom.
00:24:51.000I mean, even after the Magna Carta of 1215, there at the Battle of Runnymede in England, The king, if you were a free man, that's what they call people who weren't indentured servants or serfs who still lived as part of the patronage on nobles' property, no one could take your land.
00:25:19.000Even debtors, people who could go to jail, to debtors' prisons for not paying their debts, you still couldn't take somebody's home if they owned it outright.
00:25:28.000Unless they had specifically gotten loans on the home itself.
00:25:33.000So, now we are at the threshold of a whole new level of despotism.
00:25:40.000So I would like to talk about this because hundreds and hundreds of families ten years ago, was over 200, refused to move out.
00:25:48.000And so when the Associated Press says the once vibrant neighborhood, oh yes, most of it was bulldozed, most of it was torn up.
00:25:55.000They bulldozed the restaurants, they bulldozed all of it.
00:28:10.000Okay, I mean always an imminent domain in the past they've had to pay what the property is on the tax rules and then the cost of moving a factory or moving a home and So, you're normally looking at about 20% over the tax rolls.
00:28:26.000So, we're talking about almost $400,000 for a $300,000 house.
00:28:34.000We're going to give you, what was it, $61,000, $62,000, $65,000, I forget, it was $60-something thousand dollars that was in the newspaper that they were offering them for the lot value.
00:28:45.000So, what happens is, They've got National Associations of Counties, National Associations of Cities, National Association of Mayors, National Association of Governors.
00:28:55.000They've got the National Association of City Managers.
00:28:57.000All of this, they've codified it and we're seeing the same thing in Ohio, Texas, Tennessee, California.
00:29:07.000They're coming in and saying, we're only going to give you lot value.
00:29:13.000So that's even bigger than the federal ruling Stating that if a private interest wants your land, they can come pay off politicians and take it.
00:29:26.000So all that's happening here is highway robbery, extortion, racketeering is being legalized.
00:29:33.000Remember the Supreme Court ruling last week?
00:29:37.000Police officers, prosecutors, people who refuse to lie, people who blow the whistle on corruption, frame-ups in this one case.
00:29:46.000They lose their jobs, you're not allowed to blow the whistle on felonies?
00:29:51.000We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
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00:32:56.000I'm not trying to be negative about the state of this country.
00:33:21.000But if your house is on fire, you shouldn't just lay in bed and say, oh, I'm going to be positive, I'm going to say it's not on fire, and then let you and your wife and your children burn to death.
00:33:34.000You're going to admit to yourself it's on fire and try to get out of the home safely, try to get the family pets out as well if you're able to.
00:33:43.000But that's not the case today in this country.
00:33:47.000I mean, we have a president who is getting rid of the borders, The official Council on Foreign Relations policies are being implemented by the Canadian, U.S.
00:33:59.000Even national television admits we're going to have the Amero note very soon.
00:34:03.000We are going into the American Union, and I heard a Neocon talk show host on national radio yesterday evening as I was driving in my car, and he had two callers in a row go, Bush's amnesty is a fraud, it's a scam, and the host said, yeah, I think Bush is just confused and has some bad advisors.
00:34:23.000And then the callers were both saying, because I only had time to listen to two of them, but there was two in a row, well it's about the American Union, the Pan-American Union, it's official!
00:34:31.000And the host would hang up on them and say, no, that's a conspiracy, Bush is just inept, he's just dumb.
00:34:40.000I mean, when Dr. Frederick Whitehurst went public six, seven years ago saying that there was total fraud at the FBI crime lab framing people, the news said, that's impossible, they're too inept!
00:34:52.000So the next time somebody gets caught robbing a bank wearing the black mask and has the gun and the gun's in somebody's head, just go, oh, I'm too inept to rob a bank.
00:35:03.000I guess Enron was too inept to be running fake energy trading scams and have whole, you know, false stock markets they were showing members of the state legislatures in Congress.
00:35:14.000No, ladies and gentlemen, the government would have you believe they're inept.
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00:42:01.000Debbie, thank you so much for talking with us today.
00:43:23.000Anyway, I just wanted to clear my frustration a little bit and just tell you guys how I'm frustrated about the fact that now, since more and more generals and public officials are coming out public with the corruption of the Bush administration, now the Bush administration is continually hiring criminals to run their activities, like Henry Paulson Jr.
00:43:45.000from Goldman Sachs, which is connected with Wall Street, just got tapped for the, uh, what was it?
00:43:52.000I believe it was the Secretary of the Treasury.
00:44:00.000There were several mainstream news articles and major papers just in the last couple weeks that pointed out that President Bush is hiring criminals.
00:44:32.000He is hiring people who are known to break the law and who have been convicted.
00:44:37.000Yeah, so now when most of these guys are hired, none of them are going to come out, of course, because they're going to be caught with their program, and then, I mean, it's just going to destroy America.
00:44:47.000Well, when you got the Supreme Court ruling that, in one case, a prosecutor can't report frame-ups or can't report corruption, and then they get demoted and then fired over it, and the government says, yeah, you're not allowed to report corruption.
00:45:52.000I was up studying and I was watching TV this morning, the Discovery Channel, I think, or Learning Channel, I can't remember.
00:45:59.000But I was dumbfounded when they showed the Project Paperclip.
00:46:05.000They had a whole show about Project Paperclip, and I couldn't believe it.
00:46:10.000I was wondering... Yeah, there was a big article in Haratz, one in Associated Press yesterday, two separate ones, admitting our government protected Nazis and put them in at the highest levels of our government.
00:46:20.000Of course, that's 60-year-old news, but the mainstream media is patting themselves on the back now.
00:46:27.000Well, it's not 60-year-old news when we consider that George Bush Sr.
00:46:32.000was the head of the CIA while A great many of those people were involved in Project Paperclip, were in the CIA, and his son is running our country today.
00:46:44.000I think that that's, you know, today's news.
00:46:47.000So I was just dumbfounded that they would put that on the television.
00:49:39.000And, of course, they have the article a couple of years ago out of the London Telegraph again about how the British government is trying to force the adoption of forced inoculation at age two of a vaccine that contains a virus that attacks the respotoreceptors, they have the article a couple of years ago out of the London Telegraph again about how the British government is trying to force the adoption of forced
00:50:08.000The opiates, the cocaines, the nicotines.
00:50:11.000And it said you will not use cocaine, you will not use heroin, you will not use cigarettes.
00:50:15.000And then I had several top scientists on about that, and we read several scholarly review papers that said, yeah, but they'll have trouble being happy because your own endorphins won't plug in, but we can give kids drugs that will make them feel good on top of that.
00:51:01.000Hello friends, Alex Jones here and I'm excited to announce we're going to have a huge 9-11 conference in downtown Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.
00:51:09.000We're expecting around 1,000 people in attendance.
00:51:12.000At this historic event, we will irrefutably document that 9-11 was an inside job, a self-inflicted wound, a false flag terror operation.
00:51:22.000The conference is titled 9-11 and the Neo-Con Agenda.
00:51:25.000I'm happy to announce the conference will feature presentations by incredible speakers like BYU physics professor Stephen Jones, the father of the Star Wars program, Lt.
00:51:34.000Robert Bowman, former top-level CIA analyst for Reagan and Bush, Ray McGovern, 9-11 hero William Rodriguez, author Webster Charnley, Professor Jim Fetzer, and many, many others, including special guests.
00:51:47.000I'll also be debuting my explosive new film, Terror Storm, at the conference.
00:51:52.000Secure your tickets today at InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or by calling toll free 888-253-3139.
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00:54:27.000Listener, you need to understand I'm not making it up.
00:54:30.000The British government for two years has been attempting to bring in new national standards that attempt to force the population to give every child in the United Kingdom an injection that actually uses a live virus to attack the brain.
00:54:51.000And the viruses we're finding that are in the vaccines are very similar to these viruses.
00:54:59.000Now that's right out of Brave New World where they X-ray the eggs and the sperm before they implant the breeding females to have a suboid mass.
00:55:14.000And I know it's hard to believe the government carried out 9-11.
00:55:16.000I know it's hard to believe they're going to turn almost every major road into a toll road.
00:55:19.000I know it's hard to believe that they actually are putting things in the vaccines to brain damage our children on purpose.
00:55:45.000It's just that some children, especially if they're underweight, or already had a lot of mercury in them from what they were eating, or their mother already had a lot of mercury in them.
00:55:52.000But on top of it, there's all these viruses.
00:56:23.000When you see on a vaccine that it says no animal genetics, not grown in animals, that means it wasn't grown in monkey kidneys, it means it wasn't grown in eggs, it wasn't grown in poultry, it wasn't grown in pork.
00:56:41.000So even better, even more dangerous, because every virus that that mother had, every virus that could have gotten contaminated into those fetal tissues, it's just asking for it.
00:56:54.000I mean, I hope all this is accidentally happening, but the government, we know, isn't accidentally doing it.
00:56:59.000We've seen documents where they planned all of this by design.
00:57:06.000By design, my friends, we're going to end this hour and come back with Professor Stephen Jones.
00:57:11.000I know we have Joe and Mike and Eric and Charles and everybody.
00:59:06.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:17.000We're now into the second hour of this live Wednesday edition The 7th day of June 2006.
00:59:30.000Thank God nothing happened on 666 like so many thought it would.
00:59:34.000I know crazies went out there and went nuts and the globalists didn't pull anything off because of their obsession with numerology.
00:59:41.000I am extremely honored to be joined for this full hour by Professor Stephen Jones, he has a doctorate in physics.
00:59:49.000He has published scores and scores of peer-reviewed papers that have been in some of the most prestigious scientific magazines and periodicals out there.
01:00:01.000And he has now gotten samples from pieces of the World Trade Center steel.
01:00:10.000That had been sequestered in this country.
01:00:15.000They've done scientific tests on them.
01:00:17.000He has done this with other scientists at his university, reviewing what he's done and overseeing the scientific test.
01:00:24.000And it is what I would call conclusive.
01:00:27.000And I want to walk through this with you today that thermite, but not just thermite, the specific type of thermite, patented for specific use In cutting steel columns, and we look at the steel columns, you don't cut with thermite straight across, you cut at an angle so that the pillar doesn't settle on the area that wasn't melted through, so the pillars slide off.
01:00:49.000Now we see this, and we see so many facets that, again, every time you keep researching, it just proves the next finding, and when that happens four or five times in a row, it gets scary.
01:01:02.000So, joining us is Professor Stephen Jones.
01:01:45.000We're going to break in a moment and come back in a long segment.
01:01:47.000I'd like to just walk through how you woke up to 9-11, the research you've done, and the evidence of the thermite.
01:01:54.000But first off, will you, just for the listeners that don't know who you are, give us your background, some of the publications you've written for, some of the research you've done?
01:02:14.000Did most of my research, though, at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center and finished up my coursework at Stanford since I was out there doing the research.
01:02:25.000And then I did postdoctoral work at Cornell and Let's see, Los Alamos National Lab.
01:02:34.000Oh, you know, I've been around the block a few times.
01:02:36.000I have a publication in Scientific American with a dear friend of mine, Johann Rafelski.
01:03:13.000And now you're... You know, the Department of Energy funded our research, that's right.
01:03:19.000And now I think it's safe to say that you are heading up research for the 9-11 Truth Movement on the bizarre collapse of Tower 1, 2, and 7.
01:03:38.000We'll plunge right into the earth-shattering, earth-quaking research he's done that continues to be verified at every step.
01:03:48.000It is the hair on the back of my neck standing up.
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01:07:45.000Because as you study it scientifically, By the rules of science, you would expect that somewhere you would start disproving the hypothesis, but it only strengthens it and opens out into whole other areas.
01:08:00.000And the official story is completely unscientific and a fraud and a lie.
01:08:05.000Professor Jones, let's just start off with the scientific method and some of the things we discussed in that interview because, you know, you said as you investigated this you expected to To not just always find the smoking gun, but you've been able to do that conclusively.
01:08:21.000So for those that don't understand the scientific method, can you kind of restate that for people, and then get into why you first questioned it, and then what you saw develop, and now your thermite hypothesis being conclusively documented?
01:08:36.000Well, in a nutshell, using the scientific method, we We try to assemble all the facts that we can get our hands on, all the observations, photos, materials for analyses, everything we can find that would relate to the subject that we can possibly acquire.
01:08:56.000And then we try to find an explanation coming out of the facts and based on and consistent with all the facts, not just some small subset of the facts.
01:09:11.000That's the crucial difference between the scientific method, where we assemble facts and then develop an explanation.
01:09:19.000And frankly, what we saw, as I look back to 9-11, I mean, as those buildings came down, people were already speculating and then very quickly stating, this is Al-Qaeda solely responsible, you know.
01:09:35.000And what facts can we find to support that?
01:09:44.000So there's a big distinction there, incorporating all the facts as opposed to starting out with a conclusion and then just finding what facts you have to support your conclusion, which is called pathological science, by the way.
01:10:19.000Well, you know, I had several nudges along the way from friends, not scientists in this case, but friends who said, you know, you really ought to look into the 9-11 events and see what you think.
01:10:35.000A friend of mine, Steve, is his name too, but he kept kicking me in the pants.
01:10:44.000I will say he finally showed me a certain DVD, but I found it unconvincing.
01:10:51.000I mean, that's too bad because it kind of turned me off to the study because it had so many speculations without evidence.
01:13:14.000We're doing that right now on the radio.
01:13:17.000Well, you don't want to believe it, but we have to because we've got an out of control dangerous group.
01:13:23.000We're running our nation right now, and if we don't expose this, we're all in great peril.
01:13:27.000So you did a lot of research, you documented a lot of different facets.
01:13:30.000We have the underwriter, we have one of the chief engineers, Kevin Ryan, going public.
01:13:35.000They did internal models, they underwrote the building, he said it was impossible.
01:13:39.000Firefighter engineering, he said they covered up the crime scene.
01:13:42.000They're on record, so there's a lot of other prominent people as well.
01:13:45.000But you discovered something in the government report, then you found videos and photos of it, of this white hot metal gushing out of the sides of the building, and you said, and of course that goes back to the satellite and aircraft photos of multi-thousand degree fires, weeks and weeks later, burning, when jet fuel only burns at 1200 degrees, this is impossible, so go through that for us and let's get into the thermite.
01:14:12.000Yeah, so the The metal pouring out of the South Tower from about the 80th floor, and this is just minutes before it's collapsed.
01:14:22.000Enormous quantities of yellow-hot metal pouring out of the building.
01:14:26.000That was quite shocking to me to see those data.
01:14:30.000And that came out of this Scholars for 9-11 Truth group, you know, as we're trying to pull together whatever data we can.
01:14:38.000We would like to get all the videos from NIST.
01:14:43.000They brag about having 300 hours of videos and thousands of photographs.
01:14:48.000Well, we would appreciate it if they would release those data.
01:14:52.000If there's nothing to hide, they shouldn't hide it.
01:14:56.000But anyway, we did come across this and as I looked at that, I said, that is extremely interesting.
01:15:03.000I mean, I'd heard about it, but it took a while for the group to Trace down this video evidence.
01:15:10.000This is an amateur videographer, a couple of them actually, showing and capturing this event, this very anomalous activity, this molten metal flowing out of the dome.
01:15:23.000As soon as I saw it, I knew it was not aluminum because I had worked with molten aluminum before.
01:15:31.000And molten liquid aluminum has the property that it's silvery, but rather like aluminum foil, You know, at all temperatures, in daylight conditions.
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01:23:08.000If you go to Infowars.com, right underneath his picture in today's guest section, you can link through to the detailed paper he has written.
01:23:18.000It's filled with video clips and Photos and documents there for you to peruse his research.
01:23:29.000And by the way, I'm here in my studio right now, in the other room, editing the video interview we did with you, cutting out the questions.
01:23:36.000And we've gotten to the point, during this very segment, and my editor said, do we leave this in or out, where they got the samples?
01:23:42.000So let me just ask you now, because I never had a chance to Sunday, at the conference, do you want that left in or out?
01:23:48.000Um, did I specify at which particular memorial park this was?
01:23:59.000Because I don't want to put anybody, you know, in jeopardy.
01:24:04.000Because, look, there's hundreds of these memorial parks.
01:24:08.000This is an interesting story, I think, Alex, and I'm glad you brought that up.
01:24:12.000When my paper came out last fall, October-November there, I made comments that, you know, we're asking for people's help in gathering data.
01:24:22.000We're not getting much help out of NIST, frankly, and others.
01:24:28.000So, we are asking people to help gather data, and pretty quick, here's the story, without revealing the precise location.
01:24:40.000It turns out that there are a number of places In this country, and I've learned other countries as well, where there are samples of the World Trade Center steel erected in a type of memorial, like a Peace Park or a Memorial Park for 9-11.
01:25:00.000Now, so what's interesting is that then that means there's steel that can be looked at and observed.
01:25:09.000In this one case, the steel was sent to a And the welder who's putting it together, so he's making a monument out of this, you know, trying to make it stand up with these pieces of steel.
01:25:26.000And it was a volunteer, first of all, that went to Ground Zero, helped out there, and then was able to arrange for these steel members to be erected in his city as a memorial.
01:25:39.000And I thought that was great of him to do that, that the welder's wife looked at the steel.
01:25:45.000And she noticed that clinging to the steel was a bunch of dirt.
01:25:50.000And I don't know if she noticed the molten metal, but she noticed this dirt and stuff clinging to the steel.
01:25:57.000Now it's going to be put outside and she just had this thought.
01:26:00.000I'm going to take this material off the steel because it's going to be in the weather and it could easily be washed away and so on.
01:26:09.000She gathered it up and put it in a plastic container.
01:26:14.000When my paper came out, she sent me not all, but some of this material.
01:26:52.000But then, for propaganda uses, about a year later, they allowed Some of the steel to be released, to be erected, never thinking that we would go test it.
01:27:01.000And so you see the video of this molten steel pouring out the exact signature you've seen before.
01:27:07.000And so you think, well I need to get some to test it.
01:27:11.000Thermite could create the heat we'd see to keep it hot for four or five weeks down on the ground after it collapsed.
01:27:17.000And sure enough, when you did the test, it wasn't just thermite.
01:27:21.000It was the exact Yeah, so I was rather surprised when we did the analysis.
01:27:25.000of the ignition that you would see with the specific type used for cutting why don't you tell us about it yeah so I was rather surprised when we did the analysis now as I emphasized to you when we talked that was that Monday Alex or Sunday but anyway I this is still the quantitative result is preliminary I mean
01:27:50.000We've determined that this is primarily iron, which is what you expect from the thermite reaction.
01:28:16.000We'll have plenty of time to get into this when we get back.
01:28:20.000call it by that technical name thermate and that is used specifically to cut through steel I mean when you put sulfur in thermite whammo that like a hot knife through better stay there let's you bet we'll have plenty of time to get into this when we get back this is so important ladies and gentlemen we're on the march the Empire's on the run Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
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01:32:20.000We know the official story is impossible, so we set about scientifically to come up with a hypothesis and then to test that.
01:32:27.000And every step of the way, we see evidence that thermite was used, and specifically Professor Jones just doesn't find evidence of thermite, the byproducts of thermite, that you wouldn't find unless it was thermite.
01:32:40.000They find the byproducts of thermate, which is the specific thermite mix with other compounds that accelerate it and cause it to burn even hotter, mainly sulfur.
01:32:58.000You see with sulfur added to thermite, What happens is that the heat of the thermite already heats up the steel, and then with the sulfur present, the sulfur is able to get into the steel, actually into cracks and intergranular spaces in the steel.
01:33:21.000And it lowers the melting temperature of the steel.
01:33:24.000Let me give you the numbers in Fahrenheit.
01:33:27.000Structural steel melts at about 2750 Fahrenheit.
01:33:31.000By the way, that's way above what the What the fires could heat the steel to in this WTC situation.
01:33:44.000And I don't know if you've ever had a, I'm pausing there, if you've ever had a Wood-burning stove, but you've never had that puppy melt on you, I dare say.
01:33:55.000So anyway, and you know, even if you put jet fuel in there, it's not going to melt.
01:33:59.000So anyway, let's come from melting at about 2750 Fahrenheit.
01:34:06.000And you bring that right down to, with sulfur added, now you can get the steel to melt at a lower temperature, around 1600 Fahrenheit.
01:34:54.000I mean, I'm not revealing any secrets here.
01:34:57.000I just did a Google search during the break.
01:35:01.000Thermate, which is sulfur, primarily is the main ingredient.
01:35:05.000Sulfur and potassium permanganate added to thermite, 893 hits.
01:35:08.000Thermite I got 376,000 hits, of which Prison Planet was right up there on the top.
01:35:22.000So yeah, I mean, this is not a state secret.
01:35:24.000In fact, you can buy this stuff, Thermite, you can buy on eBay.
01:35:27.000I mean, I had recently a fellow say, oh, don't talk about this.
01:35:34.000A mechanical engineer has given me some guff, but he's saying, oh, don't you dare talk about thermites, you know, you're telling the terrorists how to... I'm saying, you know, excuse me...
01:35:47.000I'm not trying to reveal any secrets here, but we're trying to find out what really happened and who the terrorists are, for heaven's sake.
01:36:29.000And again, I emphasize, we'll have this quantitative analysis soon, but this takes time to be ...quantitative on these analyses.
01:36:39.000In fact, without giving out names, I'm proud of what you told us more for our report, but without giving out too many names until later, you work with several other physicists, professors, and you specifically, one of your areas of study is going back and reconstructing things in an archaeological way, so you are the specific discipline of the whole field of physicists to look at this.
01:37:06.000This field is called archaeometry, which I've taught courses in archaeometry at the graduate level.
01:37:12.000And that's, in essence, physics methods, advanced scientific methods applied to the study of archaeology.
01:37:21.000And so basically, that's what we're doing here.
01:37:23.000We're trying to figure out what happened, just like archaeologists do, at a very interesting site.
01:37:29.000In this case, we're studying something that happened just Well, that's what crime labs a lot of times in big murder cases hire is archaeologists or physicists in your persuasion because the crime labs aren't advanced enough in this study to be able to specifically get answers, but you guys are.
01:37:48.000Listen, I need to interject one thing, Kurt, to me.
01:37:53.000In archaeology in general, In archaeometry in particular, we are very careful about what's called the provenience of materials that we analyze.
01:38:05.000In this case, a lot of the evidence has been destroyed, as you mentioned.
01:38:10.000It's shipped off, literally melted in Asia for recycling.
01:38:17.000But I mentioned the importance of these peace parks and memorial parks around the world that have steel samples now.
01:38:25.000I don't I want to clear that I don't want people to run out and start scraping because we have to exercise some care.
01:38:35.000If people find a piece part, I'm very interested in more samples.
01:38:49.000Take photos, get permission, evidence it out, document in front of witnesses that you removed it properly, didn't contaminate it with others.
01:38:58.000I wouldn't even remove it at this stage.
01:39:00.000In other words, just photograph it as quick as you can so that we, if somebody else, whoever that might be, comes along and scrapes off the globs of molten metal, at least you've got pictures that it was there.
01:39:38.000It's a non-destructive analysis using a portable x-ray fluorescence device.
01:39:43.000We can actually, you know, travel to, I don't know, Canada, say, and Peace Park, and you've got these photos of this grey-black molten metal adhering to the steel beam.
01:39:56.000We could just go and analyze it right there, and then after that, we'd already have data, you see.
01:40:02.000But you did prove, you did prove conclusively, it's not aluminum folks, it's iron, the byproduct of melted steel, mixed with the byproducts of thermite, not just thermite, the specific type used and patented Four cutting charges, and then we have the multiple photos and videos, and of course FEMA claimed, you know, don't shoot any video, don't take any photos, but people still did, of these huge columns sticking up, and they're not cut straight across.
01:40:44.000Because if you cut it straight across, you know, horizontally, then of course the upper beam would just rest still on the lower beam.
01:40:52.000But by cutting it at about a 45 degree angle, then the support for the upper portion is gone.
01:40:59.000You've weakened the building every time you cut a column that way.
01:41:02.000I mean, you've, this is, In fact, the routine in demolitions is to pre-weaken the building before you set off explosives.
01:41:12.000And you go in and down low, you cut the columns in this fashion.
01:41:17.000But they didn't have time on this, so along with the clear chemical explosives, and those were clearly in there, folks, they went ahead and jacketed columns with a thermite.
01:41:32.000And you know, let me give credit to one of the guys, Robert in the Scholars Group, he found a patent that goes back to the 1990s, which shows a cylinder.
01:41:43.000And in this cylinder, if you can imagine, it's got a groove along one edge the long way.
01:41:51.000And you pack the cylinder with thermate or thermite.
01:41:57.000And then it's specifically stated to be used as a cutting device based on thermite.
01:42:06.000So, you put your thermite in there, and then as you ignite that thermite, which can be done with a radio signal, then the molten iron shoots out through this groove in a line.
01:42:19.000I mean, that is an enormously effective way to cut through thick materials.
01:42:25.000The patent specifically says this is designed to cut through thick materials.
01:42:31.000And of course, an example of that would be structural steel.
01:42:35.000So, right before the towers collapse, it's also key that this didn't happen right when the planes crashed.
01:42:39.000The fires have almost burned out, the people are standing in the wounds of the building, it's not even melting their flesh, but then just a few feet away from them, you will have basically white lava or yellow lava metal, molten steel, Sure.
01:42:55.000pouring out, and then you have the exact thermite reaction.
01:42:57.000We forgot that part, and you guys have done the laboratory test right there with other scientists overseeing.
01:44:04.000So, when you touch this stuff off, which isn't easy, by the way, it doesn't ignite easily, but when you do ignite it, Then you get this white hot molten metal.
01:44:16.000I mean, the reaction zone is just this brilliant white.
01:44:19.000We use dark glasses, sunglasses to protect our eyes.
01:44:23.000And you have this white ash floating away as dust, a very fine powder of aluminum oxide floating away.
01:45:10.000I mean, it was so fast we couldn't time it.
01:45:12.000Have you seen the Discovery Channel videos where they put it on a huge truck engine block, a little bitty cup of it, and it eats the entire block in like two seconds?
01:46:09.000And this is ultra-fine aluminum powder mixed with ultra-fine iron oxide powder.
01:46:16.000I'm talking around 100 nanometers and down, a particulate size.
01:46:21.000So when you do that, You touch that off, and it will explode.
01:46:26.000And frankly, the aluminum powder I got out of our chemical stores here was quite fine powder.
01:46:34.000So the first time we ran it, we stood well back because I wasn't sure whether it was actually going to explode or not.
01:46:40.000What do the other scientists that have been overseeing your research there at the university think?
01:46:45.000Well, you know, they're... Okay, let me say that those who have read my paper By and large, support what I'm doing, certainly support the research.
01:46:57.000There are others who just, you know, shrug their shoulders and... I don't know... But you said... They're in denial.
01:47:07.000Alex, you know, it's like anybody else, it's such a... Implications stop many people from going past square one.
01:47:15.000I mean, they say, well, wait a minute, you know, are we talking about an inside job here?
01:47:20.000And I'm saying, well, I'm talking about physics.
01:47:22.000And they say, but that would imply an inside job.
01:47:58.000Well, at least they're finding these arguments of thermite hard to refute, and explosive.
01:48:04.000So I guess that's some degree of progress, but of course to suggest that Arabs had access in these buildings, particularly Building 7, which Which housed a secret CIA office is ridiculous in the extreme.
01:48:19.000Well, it was Defense Intelligence, the Port Authority, the City Police, I mean, everybody was there.
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01:53:50.000Professor Jones, in the last three minutes we've got left here, I want to thank you for joining us, but any other facets, any other areas, any other key points you'd like to make here today?
01:53:59.000Well, we've covered that which is most interesting to me.
01:54:02.000I guess I will Well, first of all, I'm looking forward to the L.A.
01:54:09.000That was great fun in Chicago, and I think what you're doing in L.A.
01:54:12.000will be, as you say, bigger, and I'm really looking forward to that.
01:54:19.000What about going back to your previous research?
01:54:21.000I mean, before you were just showing mathematically and with science that the official story was impossible and how they claim they fell was a lie.
01:54:31.000Now you've got this and then we've got all the firefighters and police saying bombs are going off and we have all this other... We have Silverstein slipping up and saying he pulled it.
01:54:39.000I mean, is this not an orgy of evidence?
01:54:41.000Did they think that we wouldn't notice or we wouldn't catch him?
01:54:43.000Why do you think they thought they'd get away with it?
01:56:15.000I guess that the people I'm working with here are becoming convinced.
01:56:18.000I talked to Jeff yesterday, another physicist, and he said he's been reading about You know, the neoconservatives and the bankers, and you know, it doesn't take long, you get into this, and again, the evidence starts falling into place.
01:56:36.000Well, the big thing is these globalists brag about it.
01:56:38.000They write policy papers, and then you've got their own words.
01:56:43.000Yeah, you've got that PNAC document, which I read through, and I mean, it's couched in language, it doesn't sound too bad, but then you read about this Yeah, catastrophic and catalyzing event.
01:56:56.000And you're sitting there, boy, I hope they don't have another one of these up their sleeve, you know.
01:57:00.000And so, well, that possibility does raise some urgency and means that this scientific research is more than just An academic exercise.
01:58:46.000They're conditioning us up here in Canada right now.
01:58:50.000Ever since the Conservative minority government got elected, He's, uh, Mr. Harper, Stephen Harper, the Prime Minister, new Prime Minister up here, has been instituting rules that are, like, Bush-like.
01:59:05.000He's brought down a top-down approach, the same way Bush did.
01:59:11.000He's a complete, um, he's only got a minority government, but he's acting completely like a Well, he's also a member of the Bilderberg Group and it's reported that he's going to be attending the meeting on the 8th, 9th, and 10th in Ottawa.
01:59:28.000He's trying to institute a Bush-like approach to everything, and he's only got a minority government.
01:59:33.000And so, in reality, if there wasn't something up his sleeve, he'd be...
01:59:39.000He's endangering his position, his government as a minority government, the way he's acting towards the media and the people, ignoring democratic procedures and stuff like that.
01:59:48.000Almost like he's got something up his sleeve.
01:59:50.000But he's supposedly conservative, but he's not retracting some of the gun control laws brought in by the, quote, liberals.
01:59:58.000Oh no, in fact, he says he ran on eliminating it, but as soon as he got elected, of course, he said, oh, we can't eliminate it because the rest of the country would be upset, blah, blah, blah.
02:00:07.000And now they're just going to phase it in more efficiently.
02:00:12.000And lately we've had two parliamentary sessions where Experts have gotten up and said, well, the conditions are now, are set in Canada now for a terrorist attack here in Canada, just like in England in the subway system, from homegrown Al-Qaeda sympathizers.
02:00:37.000Well, they can take all your freedoms, though.
02:00:40.000Well, it's just funny, especially with that Cotter thing.
02:00:43.000This Qadar kid, who was used by the CIA when he got round up in Afghanistan, along with his little brother, his little brother, his 15-year-old brother is still in the, was sent down to Guantanamo.
02:00:55.000But this guy was 18 or 19 at the time, and he was used by the CIA to infiltrate into Iraq and stuff.
02:01:03.000They said, well, we're gonna, if you play ball with us, you know, they rounded him up on those generic sweeps over in Afghanistan.
02:01:10.000And they said, if you play ball with us and pretend to be an Al-Qaeda terrorist and go out and make all these statements and tell your mom and dad and your family members that you're a member of Al-Qaeda, and then that gets broadcast all over at home here, and so it's a psy-op.
02:01:31.000And they're doing it for us up here in Canada now.
02:01:33.000I know, they had a bunch of events where they bused supposed Al-Qaeda leaders and then a month later you'll see it in the BBC.
02:01:39.000Oh, that was a staged arrest to protect the agent's anonymity.
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02:06:20.000It's in the guest section on the main page of InfoWars.com today.
02:06:25.000And we've talked a lot about this with a piece here, a piece there.
02:06:29.000Why were supposed Oklahoma City bombers trained in Oklahoma with government connections brought in by Bush Sr., former Iraqi Republican Guard?
02:06:38.000This is even in the Washington Times and Washington Post, folks, at the end of the Gulf War.
02:06:43.000Why were they involved in the bombing?
02:06:44.000Why did Nick Berg, who supposedly got his head sawed off, in Iraq, just a few days after the Associated Press reported the FBI had him in custody and quote, handed him over to a group that then gave him to Al-Qaeda.
02:06:59.000You see, this is all hidden in plain view.
02:07:02.000Why do we have Mr. Berg giving his laptop and laptop codes to one of the supposed hijackers of 9-11?
02:07:53.000Well, I'm a research assistant for OTR Productions.
02:07:56.000We're making a documentary on the Oklahoma City bombing.
02:07:58.000In the course of this, we saw some pretty interesting connections between 9-11 and Oakland City.
02:08:04.000Same characters involved, same ARAT people who enjoy apparent immunity from prosecution took part in both events.
02:08:13.000And not only that, in examining the records and the documents of hijackers going in and out of Oklahoma, 9-11 hijackers, Traveling, training in Oklahoma, we found that there was a CIA agent, David Edger, who was in Germany monitoring the Hamburg cell.
02:08:34.000And then he traveled to Oklahoma, where they had their meeting here in Oklahoma City.
02:08:39.000The same high-techers he was watching in Germany, he was watching here in Oklahoma.
02:08:43.000And so that led me to believe that Oklahoma for some reason, I can guess at the reason, is being used as some sort of support base for the state-sponsored terror.
02:08:56.000Now we also have a SWAT, and we have Jim Loftus, Chief Anti-Terror Expert, retired now with the Justice Department, even going on Fox News.
02:09:03.000In fact, guys, dig that clip back out for me.
02:10:42.000Nicholas Berg, like you said, his laptop was used to email Zachary Massali in Minnesota, from Oklahoma to Minnesota, where Massali had recently moved.
02:10:53.000According to CNN and Nick Berg's father, the story is that Nick Berg lent his laptop to a complete stranger on a transit bus.
02:11:03.000And uh... gave him his password so this unknown party could email him a solid.
02:11:07.000Nick Berg was of course investigated by the FBI for this and of course he was cleared but I mean for one thing, this was in 2001, Nick Berg wasn't even a student at OU then and The buses in Oklahoma, they did not have wireless technology in 2001.
02:11:23.000And it's just a complete fabrication of a story, and this story is accepted by the media with no further examination.
02:12:16.000They are ready to burn and blow up every major U.S.
02:12:19.000city if the government gives one order.
02:12:21.000And then there's plausible deniability, because if any of them get caught, oh, it's Arabs.
02:12:26.000I mean, we can really see this setup coming from a mile away, and Norman, Oklahoma, and a couple different flight schools and government bases, this seems to be the main nexus point for these operatives.
02:12:38.000So break down what's in your detailed report.
02:12:42.000Well, first of all, I break down all the terrorist activity in Norman, Oklahoma itself, because that has been the focus.
02:12:49.000We had Muhammad Atta and Mohamed El-Sheikh training there as a pilot.
02:12:53.000We had Osama Bin Laden's personal pilot actually came there in Norman in 1993 to train at Airman Flight School.
02:13:00.000The FBI issued a memo about all these ARADS training in Oklahoma called Weapons of Mass Destruction, but nothing was done.
02:13:06.000Then, of course, Jackson Moussaoui came here in 2001 to train.
02:13:10.000And on OU campus, if you consult my report, The most insidious thing about this is the presence of CIA agent David Edger.
02:13:22.000He was in charge of the Hamburg cell that monitored Attaw and while Mastali was talking to this apartment while he was calling them, Edger was listening in.
02:13:33.000And what is strange about it is that Edger was not just a regular case officer.
02:13:39.000Prior to that, he had been the Deputy Director of Intelligence for Operation.
02:13:43.000Of the CIA, which is the covert operations branch of the CIA.
02:13:47.000It's one of the highest positions in the agency.
02:13:49.000He took an apparent demotion to watch this little rinky-dink show in Hamburg, which in his own words, he said he heard nothing about it.
02:13:56.000He heard nothing of interest in that apartment while he was watching it for two years.
02:14:01.000And then he gets appointed to OU as a CIA officer in residence.
02:14:31.000We have the Dean of the Defense Language School going public saying Bush carried out 9-11 San Jose Mercury News, and he's threatened with arrest.
02:14:40.000He says, we trained these guys in high-level spy training at the Defense Language School.
02:14:45.000Then we have them trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, MSNBC, Pensacola News Journal.
02:14:50.000Then we have two different embassies' heads saying they were on terrorist watch lists, but they were ordered to let them, that is Al-Qaeda, Adda and others, back into the U.S.
02:14:58.000We've interviewed them right here, folks.
02:15:14.000Well, I mean, Andrew was watching a car in Hamburg.
02:15:18.000He's watching them in Oklahoma most probably.
02:15:21.000But this surveillance did nothing to stop the attacks.
02:15:23.000We can only assume that Andrew's mission, whatever it was, was successful.
02:15:28.000And going into Nicholasburg, I mean, I mean, that's not the only terrorist activity that occurred in Oklahoma.
02:15:37.000One of the plane tickets was purchased at an OU computer terminal for Ziad Jarrah.
02:15:41.000This despite the fact that Jarrah had been detained in Dubai not too long before this and questioned at the request of the CIA because they knew he was an allocated terrorist.
02:15:52.000He was released, he came to Oklahoma and purchased a ticket, but this raised no red flags.
02:15:57.000How come he purchased a ticket in Dubai and be questioned, but he purchased a ticket In the United States, in Oklahoma, and nothing is done about it.
02:16:06.000And according to the librarian who witnessed the transaction, and told the FBI about it, the man who bought this ticket was not an ARAB.
02:16:19.000I mean, he was described as a skinhead.
02:16:23.000Really spooky is going on in Oklahoma, in Norman specifically.
02:16:26.000And that motel that Moussaoui and Attal had their meeting in, in Oklahoma City, was the same motel that, you know, six years previously, Tim McVeigh was seen in with Hussein Al-Husseini.
02:16:44.000Then we have all these surveillance camera tapes and three separate trials that the government refuses to release, which FBI agents have told the LA Times shows the Hussein individual with McVeigh.
02:16:56.000Why don't the Feds want us to know that there are these Arabs involved?
02:17:00.000Because these are Arabs we know brought in by the U.S.
02:17:10.000If Hussein Husseini was a former supposedly Iraqi Republican Guard member, but he was, there's also a story that he was jailed by Saddam Hussein.
02:17:19.000If that's true, we probably can guess who he was working for.
02:17:23.000And he was identified as John Doe number two.
02:17:25.000People saw him stepping out of the Ryder truck in front of the murder building after McVeigh left it.
02:17:31.000But they won't allow those tapes to be released, but we have FBI agents on record.
02:17:35.000So, we'll continue with more details, more facets of this Fascinating story.
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02:24:07.000I don't want to sound like I'm trying to spread gossip about the man, but... I don't want to!
02:24:12.000Frankly, I want to stick to the terrorism stuff.
02:24:16.000We've got all this weird stuff going on, is your point?
02:24:18.000Yeah, and let me just add one more thing.
02:24:21.000According to Al Martin's conspirators, a book, David Warren was compromised in 1984 by the intelligence community because of his proclivity.
02:24:30.000Well, that sounds like it's par for the course.
02:24:43.000Getting back into just this whole plethora of buzzards circling the area there in Norman, Oklahoma, why do you think they've chosen this as a base of operations for these patsies and decoys?
02:24:57.000Well, obviously it's safe ground to conduct covert operations.
02:25:00.000The Oklahoma City bombing happened here, and we all know The reams of evidence that proved the government was lying about that.
02:25:20.000It's like those reporters on TV never said those things.
02:25:22.000Those words never came out of their mouths.
02:25:25.000And so the media is in the establishment's pocket.
02:25:28.000The law enforcement community in Oklahoma is compromised.
02:25:32.000They cooperated with the cover-up of the Oklahoma City bombing, and those individual officers who chose to tell the truth were punished, sent before punishment boards, forced retirements, harassment, or murdered.
02:25:45.000And Terrence Yackey was murdered in a very bloody manner, and his death served as an example.
02:25:50.000And I've talked to police officers who are scared because of what happened to Yackey.
02:26:21.000But the ones who knew Yakey and knew what he was trying to reveal, what he was trying to talk about, he was the first officer to respond to the bombing.
02:26:44.000He would not Forget what he had seen in that building.
02:26:48.000And he paid the price for it, unfortunately.
02:26:50.000We're going to have a break here in just a moment.
02:26:56.000Holland, what are some of the other key points that you make in this essay you've written, which is excellent, that you'd like to relay to the listeners when we get back?
02:27:04.000Well, I'd just like to talk about the fact that this Al-Qaeda cell in Oklahoma, Warren Norman, is operating under protection and is probably going to be used again in the future, a la the Heinrich Suicide Bombing, which I believe was a foul-up.
02:27:18.000That's right, we've got the young man blowing himself up at a football game, that was kept very quiet.
02:27:23.000Now, folks, they'll take a jackhammer and make it national news, or a WMD attack, Why do they clamp down on that so fast?
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02:31:24.000Here's Mr. Loftus who we interviewed, and of course he said even more on this show, but here's the Fox News clip where the former Justice Department anti-terrorism chief expert talked about how Haroon Aswad was being protected by key elements of the CIA and MI6.
02:31:54.000A SWAT is believed to be the mastermind.
02:31:57.000Of all the bombings in London, on the 7-7 and 7-21, this is the guy, we think.
02:32:03.000This is THE guy, and what's really embarrassing is that the entire British police are out chasing him, and one wing of the British government, MI6, or the British Secret Service, has been hiding him.
02:32:15.000And this has been a real source of contention between CIA, Justice Department, and Britain.
02:32:43.000The CIA and the Israelis all accused MI6 of letting all these terrorists live in London, not because they were getting Al-Qaeda information, but for appeasement.
02:32:54.000It was one of those, you leave us alone and we leave you alone kind of things.
02:32:57.000Well, we left him alone too long then.
02:33:05.000The Justice Department wanted to indict him in Seattle because him and his buddy were trying to set up a terrorist training school in Oregon.
02:34:55.000And local activists there in Oklahoma City, investigative journalists out there, freelancing, getting the truth out.
02:35:00.000And he's got this big, detailed report, Oklahoma, the Axis of Evil, expanded exclusively for Infowars.com, originally published for Cerebellum.tv.
02:36:10.000We know they're in Austin, they're in Dallas, they're in Houston, they're in Oklahoma, they're in LA, they're in Detroit, they're in New York.
02:36:15.000The globalists give the order, these people start blowing stuff up.
02:36:25.000I totally agree, and you know, the fact is, these guys that are being used, they may not even know who they're working for.
02:36:31.000They may actually believe that they're working for Osama Bin Laden, or Muslim jihadists, or whatever.
02:36:37.000I mean, that's the principle of intelligence operations, is that the operators, the limited hangout guys that you That you offer out there a sacrifice, really have no clue as to who their true master is.
02:36:50.000And because that offers plausible deniability.
02:36:53.000And it also offers a limited hangout if they should get caught.
02:36:56.000Well, David Edger is a super high-level CIA agent involved in covert operations worldwide, very senior in the CIA, right before 9-11.
02:38:50.000Half of the board is Jewish and they always seem to show that That extra 10 minutes of what's going on in Israel and Palestine when most people here don't even really care and they refuse to report on anything big.
02:39:55.000Well, um, yeah, um, also, uh, last year I was disgusted the Drug Enforcement Agency came up here into Vancouver and basically shoved their way in and busted somebody for a, you know, a questionable crime.
02:40:14.000And also, I just had a question for you, um, how long before, um, they start to try and chip us?
02:40:20.000Because I figure there's between five and ten years left before... Alright, I appreciate your call, sir.
02:40:25.000Everybody's always freaking out over the chips, and I've been talking about it long before most people were.
02:40:31.000They're going to make prisoners do it, old people, when you go in the hospital.
02:40:35.000They're going to start phasing it in, and really that comes after the big terror attack.
02:40:40.000Three or four more big terror attacks.
02:40:42.000Because after every terror attack, they take more freedom, and the next attack's bigger, then they take more freedom, and the next attack's bigger, they take even more freedom, then they've got to condition you to, that's always the answer, give up your freedom.
02:40:52.000But no, there really is a governmental, institutional move To push implantable, trackable RFID chips.
02:41:16.000And the media kind of uses the microchipping us physically in our flesh As the extreme to make all the other bad stuff they do not look as bad.
02:41:25.000Going back to our guest, Holland Vanden Nieuwenhoff.
02:41:31.000Sir, are you in a better self-position now?
02:41:36.000What do you think about all, you know, just the general police state that's going into the US right now, but nothing being done with our borders except more smoke and mirrors?
02:41:46.000Well, I mean, Just watching the 9-11 hijackers, they're moving through Oklahoma into the United States, while they were known Al-Qaeda terrorists.
02:41:53.000Most of these hijackers, I mean at least Mohammed Atta had been identified by Able Danger as an Al-Qaeda cell leader.
02:42:00.000The other hijackers, one hijacker, Nawaf Al-Hamzi, got a speeding ticket in Oklahoma, despite the fact that he had been known as an Al-Qaeda terrorist since January of 2000.
02:43:08.000Because they are... Well, I'll say this.
02:43:11.000The official U.S.-Israeli plan was to go into Iraq, break it down into three to four sections, have civil war.
02:43:19.000So when you hear we're failing, no, they mean our troops to die, they mean it to be a quagmire while they build the bases, to then ratchet up the next level into Iran.
02:43:29.000And so that's why generals were always getting replaced every three or four months, because they'd try to actually fix things and they'd say, no, you're fired.
02:43:36.000We could have gone in there, got the lights on, got a government in, and none of this would have happened.
02:43:40.000But our government has been caught, along with Israelis and the British, bombing mosques, stirring stuff up, and then once they stirred it up, now it's really falling apart on its own.
02:43:50.000Our troops can't leave the green zone.
02:44:00.000I mean, I feel for my comrades in arms, you know, and it's really You know, it was just Memorial Day yesterday.
02:44:08.000When you're in the military, you really do not have a mind of your own.
02:44:11.000Your condition to kill and to survive in a hostile environment and feelings of, you know, distrust of authority and reason and sympathy, empathy with your fellow human being, and actually with the enemy, are just not allowed in that survival mechanism, especially in a war zone.
02:44:30.000These troops coming back, I've talked to some of them, and they're confused about what's going on over there, but they're still going to help you.
02:44:35.000They cannot admit that their sacrifice was in vain, that they were tools.
02:44:40.000That their buddies died, you know, for a bunch of rich white guys who got out of Vietnam when they had their chance.
02:44:46.000You know, they just will not, psychologically, they cannot admit that Our soldiers are dying in vain over there.
02:45:18.000You know, the only logical reason for the tremendous incompetence on the part of the military in Iraq is the fact that they are allowing this to happen.
02:45:27.000There is no reason in the world these stupendous mistakes that Rumsfeld has supposedly made, that generals are criticizing him for.
02:45:36.000He didn't get to where he is by being dumb.
02:45:38.000I mean, the things that have ratcheted up the civil war in Iraq have been classical Obvious mistakes that no one should have made that every general advised against yet Rumsfeld Made the military do these certain things disband the army, you know I mean just do things that would guarantee a civil war and by the way by the way
02:46:00.000They know in the handbook 101 that you don't just go into the farming belts and bulldoze every date palm every tangerine orchard to quote teach the people a lesson every Everything they did was textbook to make people revolt.
02:46:22.000I was just so, I was actually kind of, you know, enlightened by the fact that That our plans were not working in Iraq, but then I realized this is the plan.
02:47:13.000Brainwashing the pastors to tell their practitioners that when the emergency comes, obey the government, turn in your guns, go to the emergency center, quarantine yourself.
02:48:09.000We can see in 4th Generation Warfare, which is what Guerrilla Warfare is evolving into, that stateless forces have a tremendous advantage over the slow-moving forces of an oppressive state.
02:48:20.000And if that would happen, I kind of feel sorry for the people who would take the gun down.
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02:51:40.000If the government tried a mass takeover, total gun confiscation and called it that, it won't total gun confiscation and called it that, it won't work.
02:51:59.000They'll call it new security parameters.
02:52:03.000ID cards will have five different levels of identification for citizens.
02:52:07.000You'll have the trusted citizens and the untrusted citizens in that gamut.
02:52:12.000And I keep calling it practitioners, it's parishioners.
02:52:15.000I know that Sometimes I get a word in my head and use the wrong one.
02:52:19.000A practitioner is like a... he practices medicine or he practices something else.
02:52:25.000But it's parishioners that the pastors are brainwashing right now.
02:53:14.000Alex, it's becoming fairly common knowledge here in Oklahoma City that the FBI and the ATF blew up the Murrell Building because of the mess they made at Waco.
02:53:25.000ATF was in the process of being disbanded.
02:53:30.000They had already started to draw down the office here in the city.
02:53:33.000Approximately a year before the bombing... Well, you say FBI, BATF.
02:53:37.000They were certainly involved, but no, they had Arabs that were CIA that did it.
02:53:41.000Well, I'm not saying that they personally did it hands-on, but I know the bombing survivors, a group of the bombing survivors... Oh, believe me, sir, I've made two films about it.
02:53:51.000We've still... ...hired attorneys to try to sue the government, but at the last minute, the attorneys always back out.
02:54:00.000So the information is circulating here.
02:54:02.000Apparently someone is harassing their attorneys.
02:54:07.000So how many Oklahomans, let me ask Holland that, and let me ask you that respectively, Ron.
02:54:12.000What percentage of Oklahomans that you talk to know Oklahoma is a cover-up, Holland?
02:54:20.000I mean, the young kids, the 18-year-old college kids, I mean, they were eight years, but people who were in Oklahoma City who were adults, I would say 80% know at least something was fishy about it.