Alex Jones goes live from Austin, Texas to talk about the Bilderberg meeting, the latest in the latest North Korean crisis, and the latest on the 9/11 attacks on the United States. Alex Jones is joined by Greg Palast, author of the new book "Witness to Tyranny" and host of the local TV show "Two Eyewitnesses to tyranny" in Canada.
00:00:41.000I trust you had a good weekend with your families out there.
00:00:45.000Huge broadcast lined up for you today.
00:00:49.000Coming up in the next hour in studio, we're going to have Greg Pallast, and we'll be videotaping it, putting it on the local TV show and on the website for PrisonPlanet.tv members.
00:00:59.000He'll be joining us to talk about his new book, and also a little bit about the monster, who's not a real conservative, Ann Coulter.
00:01:08.000Coming up in 30 minutes, we're going to be talking to Don McCormick of Canada, along with Joe Bird, and they were out there at the Bilderberg event outside the gates with us.
00:01:21.000and uh... one of them was picked up another one of them was a witness to this and taken to some type of national security office and interrogated threatened reportedly i was called an insurgent and so we'll give you a kind of an inside view on some of things that were happening Daniel Estillon was pulled over and interrogated himself he of course is a Canadian citizen I haven't ever really talked about that on air we had Daniel on last uh... what was it thursday and i forgot to even bring that up so
00:01:51.000Lots of secret police activity going on for simply trying to report on 120 of the world's biggest elite meeting.
00:02:00.000It was in the Toronto Star of all places today.
00:02:04.000More about the Bilderberg Group a week and a half late.
00:02:07.000It was also in some of the Portugal papers over the weekend as well.
00:02:12.000Those reports are all on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.
00:02:19.000In the meantime, we've got the big North Korean latest crises.
00:02:22.000North Koreans said to be near a missile test, and so we are flashing back to a test missile that reportedly hit Alaska, and they're reportedly about to test another one of these missiles.
00:02:35.000They've also fired missiles that have landed in the ocean just miles from the Japanese coast.
00:05:01.000Hello friends, Alex Jones here and I'm excited to announce we're going to have a huge 9-11 conference in downtown Los Angeles on the 24th and 25th of June.
00:05:09.000We're expecting around a thousand people in attendance.
00:05:12.000At this historic event, we will irrefutably document that 9-11 was an inside job, a self-inflicted wound, a false flag terror operation.
00:05:22.000The conference is titled 9-11 and the Neo-Con Agenda.
00:05:25.000I'm happy to announce the conference will feature presentations by incredible speakers like BYU physics professor Stephen Jones, the father of the Star Wars program, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bowman, former top-level CIA analyst for Reagan and Bush, Ray McGovern, 9-11 hero William Rodriguez, author Webster Charmpley, Professor Jim Fetzer, and many, many others, including special guests.
00:05:47.000I'll also be debuting my explosive new film, Terror Storm, at the conference.
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00:08:22.000Greg Pallast will be joining us, BBC reporter, documentary filmmaker, best-selling author, will be joining us in studio in the next hour.
00:08:31.000And in about 22 minutes from now, we're going to be joined by Joe Byrd and Don McCormick.
00:08:36.000They were at the Bilderberg group conference, so they're with the press and the demonstrators, the protesters.
00:08:41.000Wait till you hear the story they have to tell of what happened to them, how Don McCormick was picked up and brought in and interrogated by national security.
00:08:50.000Yeldat Kastet threatened and I was called an insurgent.
00:09:17.000The government has hired defense subcontractor Lockheed Martin to design and develop an enormous blimp that will be used to spy on Americans.
00:09:24.000We first reported this about five years ago, remember?
00:09:27.000According to the Athens News, government agencies such as the NSA are anticipating that as early as 2009, the blimp will be operational and begin supporting new ways of monitoring everything that happens in this country.
00:09:40.000A prototype of the blimp is already being developed at a cost of $40 million.
00:09:51.000And they also converted the Fuji blimp at the 2004 Olympics in Greece and then also at the RNC, remember that?
00:09:59.000The spy ship, called the High Altitude Airship, will be 17 times larger than the Goodyear blimp, and hover 12 miles above the Earth.
00:10:08.000Although it is very large, it will be invisible to both the naked eye and ground radar, because of its distance from the Earth.
00:10:14.000Yes, it's unmanned, up in the high atmosphere, a giant platform.
00:10:20.000Fuel-economic and self-sufficient, it will be powered by solar energy, and will be able to fly for years at a time.
00:10:28.000And of course, this is really the brainchild of Alexander Haig.
00:10:31.000I remember him 15 years ago, well I remember learning of it about a decade ago, but documents going back really over 15 years, where he proposed instead of satellites, you can put mega blimps up in the high atmosphere, and then they can be solar powered, because there's masses of sun up there, and be used for telecommunications, you name it.
00:10:51.000And as usual, the government watch will deploy these, and then large sections of it will be seeded and given to large corporations like AT&T and others.
00:11:04.000It goes on, although it will be very large, it will be invisible to both the naked eye and ground radar because of its distance from Earth.
00:11:24.000It has the capability of monitoring an area 600 miles in diameter at a time with surveillance equipment such as high-resolution cameras.
00:11:32.000The government has ordered 11 of them, enough to monitor every parcel of land in the U.S.
00:11:39.000and that is reported again by Free Market News and also out of the Athens Journal, Athens News.
00:11:45.000So, that's what we had to look forward to.
00:11:47.000I have another article here out of the LA Times today about hover drones, hundreds of which have been ordered by the LAPD, I first saw this in the news a year ago, to fly around spying on you.
00:12:29.000North Korea appears to have completed fueling a long-range ballistic missile.
00:12:33.000American officials said Sunday a move that greatly increases the probability that it will go ahead with its first important test launch in eight years.
00:12:42.000New York Times, it was all over Japanese and Korean press, there was another big test and the U.S.
00:12:52.000A senior American official said the intelligence from satellite photographs suggested that booster rockets had been loaded onto a launching pad and liquid fuel tanks fitted to a missile at the site of North Korea's remote east coast.
00:13:05.000While there have been study reports in recent days about preparations for a test, fueling is regarded as a critical step as well as probable bellwether of North Korea's intention.
00:13:15.000Siphoning liquid fuel out of a missile is a complex undertaking.
00:13:19.000Yes, looks like all systems are go and fueling appears to be done, said the official who discussed the matter only after being promised anonymity because he was addressing delicate diplomatic and intelligence issues.
00:13:33.000A second senior official who declined to speak on the record for similar reasons also indicated that the United States believed that the missile had been fueled.
00:13:41.000A launching would be a milestone in North Korea's missile capacity and effectively scrap a moratorium on such tests declared by North Koreans after the last test of 98.
00:13:52.000Moreover, a launching Launching would have enormous importance for American security because it would mean that North Korea's first flight test of a long-range missile that might eventually have the capability to strike the United States.
00:14:06.000A launching could also ignite a political chain reaction in Japan, the United States, and China, which have been trying to re-engage North Korea in stalled talks about its nuclear weapons program.
00:14:15.000The Bush administration might step up financing for missile defense.
00:14:19.000Japan might increase its missile defense efforts as well.
00:14:22.000While militant Japanese politicians might push to reconsider the nation's nuclear weapons options such as moves most likely would alienate China.
00:14:44.000Japan, the last time North Korea did a test, said we're going to develop nukes.
00:14:50.000That was reported as if it's not even newsworthy.
00:14:55.000And remember what was it, about eight years ago, there was that big nuclear spill, and there were all those Japanese in a weird government facility, hand-mixing very high-grade, weapons-grade uranium.
00:15:23.000When France and the EU sold just masses of uranium and plutonium, weapons-grade to them, and there was the big super triple-hull tanker, and no country would let it even get near their coastlines because it was so dangerous to be transporting it to Japan.
00:15:38.000And now Japan openly has been saying, we're going to develop nukes.
00:15:42.000You better watch yourself North Korea.
00:17:29.000So, it's just wild arms race going on right now.
00:17:35.000And I'll have to tell you, Germany and Japan are not as corrupt.
00:17:38.000They may spend a fraction of what our government does, but it's not for $800 toilet seats and $15 million blue tarp tents in Iraq for Halliburton just to feather their nest.
00:17:51.000When they spend money over there, it goes into the weapons systems.
00:18:33.000New report about threat of missile launch omit defects.
00:18:38.000Reports today concerning the completed fueling of North Korea's long-range Taepong Dong-2 missile and its planned launch within a month omit several key aspects of the story, including the fact that North Korea already launched a missile to hit Alaska with the help of the U.S.
00:19:17.000Former Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Nakama was quoted as saying in a report, Washington as well as Tokyo has so far undeterred North Korea's missile capabilities.
00:19:28.000A story that would have expected to garner front page headlines for days was completely blacked out by the U.S.
00:19:33.000with not a single newspaper choosing to report it.
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00:24:17.000So why did the Western press cover up the admitted, confirmed, US government document, South Korean, Japanese documents, that we were hit by a test missile?
00:24:34.000How could the Bush administration sell a war against a country with no means to defend itself, and as it later transpired, with no weapons of mass destruction, when a country with WMDs was firing long-range nuclear-capable missiles that were hitting the western coast of the United States?
00:24:55.000The 1994 agreed framework deal gave North Korea the capability to generate enough nuclear fuel to produce almost 100 nuclear bombs per year, a 99 congressional study undertaken by the House North Korean Advisory Group warned.
00:25:09.000And it went on to the provision of two light water reactors under the 94 agreed framework, and then ABB, the Swiss company, sold it to him, and guess who was on the board?
00:25:19.000The United States, through the KEDO, would provide North Korea with the capability to produce annually enough fissile material for nearly 100 nuclear bombs should the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, DPRK, decide to violate the Non-Proliferation Treaty, NPT, which they did do.
00:25:39.000In April of 2002, the Bush administration announced that it would release $95 million of American taxpayer dollars to begin construction of the harmless light-water reactors.
00:25:48.000Bush argued that arming the megalomaniacal dictator Kim Jong-il with the potential to produce 100 nukes a year was, and they already had enough to make 9 a year before that, vital to the national security interests of the United States.
00:26:00.000Bush released even more money in January of 2003, as reported by Bloomberg News.
00:26:05.000President George W. Bush is seeking $3.5 million for the international consortium that continues to build two nuclear reactors for North Korea even as the U.S.
00:26:14.000confronts the communist regime over nuclear arms development.
00:26:18.000The company that got the contract to deliver equipment and services to build the two light water reactor stations was ABB.
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00:26:38.000The contract was valued at $200 million and was signed in January of 2000.
00:26:44.000It should be no surprise to our old friend, Donald Rumsfeld, was the man who paved the way for the U.S.
00:26:49.000companies to sell Iraq chemical and biological weapons in 1983, was the executive director of ABB, not just the board, he was the executive director.
00:26:57.000From 2000-2001, while the deal took place, Rumsfeld resigned when he was appointed U.S.
00:27:03.000Wolfram Eberhardt, a spokesman for ABB, confirmed that Rumsfeld was in nearly all the board meetings during the involvement with the company.
00:27:11.000The meetings were held quarterly in Zurich, Switzerland.
00:27:14.000However, Rumsfeld again displays his uncanny ability to forget things when he stated that he, quote, doesn't remember the issue of North Korea being brought before the ABB board, Swiss Info concluded.
00:27:26.000Yeah, he's the executive director, okay?
00:27:28.000He is the head Of the company at the time, and he doesn't know anything about a $200 million deal that was very controversial and all over the news.
00:27:39.000Rumsfeld's position at ABB could prove embarrassing for the Bush administration, since while he was director, he was also active on issues of weapons proliferation, sharing the 98th Congressional Ballistic Missile Threat Commission, reported Swiss Info.
00:27:54.000North Korea is controlled by a hierarchy, hereditary Stalinist dictatorship, that has starved two million of its citizens to death in favor of building a two million man army.
00:28:26.000In the far north of the country, there is a network of forced labor gulags where people who have expressed a bland political opinion are, along with their entire families, tortured, raped, and executed.
00:28:35.000Horrific biochemical experiments are performed on mass numbers of people.
00:28:38.000Babies are delivered and then stamped to death by camp guards.
00:28:43.000If the mother screams while the guards are stamping on the baby's neck, she's immediately assassinated by a firing squad.
00:28:48.000These guards are rewarded with bonuses and promotions for ripping out prisoners' eyeballs.
00:28:53.000The North Korean people are enslaved by a government that is using food as a weapon.
00:28:57.000Perhaps this is why the EU and the United States, via the UN World Food Program, resumed the shipment of hundreds of thousands of tons of food aid in the end of 2003.
00:29:03.000This goes directly to the sitting dictatorship, which then decides who gets it by their level of allegiance to the state.
00:29:11.000Food aid only increases the power of Kim Jong-il, the hereditary sack of pus, I would add, and yet it is a Veiled by the UN in bleeding heart humanitarian rhetoric.
00:29:22.000The money goes straight to enabling the North Korean leadership to live a lap of westernized luxury with casinos and lavish new cars.
00:29:29.000President Bush publicly claims to loathe Kim Jong-il II and yet his administration, like Bill Clinton before him, has armed North Korea to the teeth with anything up to and beyond 200 nuclear bombs.
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00:33:18.000Move forward, educating one man, one woman at a time.
00:33:21.000We will, hopefully, if enough people get involved, stop the New World Order.
00:33:27.000Greg Palast is coming up in the next hour.
00:33:29.000They have a lot of other international and national news, and this North Korea situation is so incredible.
00:33:34.000That we would invade Iraq, we would be talking about invading Iran right now, but meanwhile North Korea threatens to nuke us almost on a weekly basis, China threatens to nuke us every few months, huge press conferences, over a hundred members of the press, the Wall Street Journal, you name it there, but none of these guys are a threat.
00:33:52.000Let's give them our ports, give them our bases, give them aid, buy all their products, but we've got to invade these Arab countries because they're pushovers, ladies and gentlemen, comparatively, and because they've got oil.
00:34:04.000But before we go any further, let me just get into this email I received.
00:34:13.000We're going to post this on InfoWars.com.
00:34:17.000Alex, I wanted to pass on some information and let you know what happened to us after we met last Friday, directly after your in-car interview with Jim Tucker.
00:34:25.000I guess they saw me across the street doing an in-the-car interview with Jim.
00:34:28.000Because it was raining outside at the Brook Street Resort at Leggett Drive in Ottawa.
00:34:33.000My name is Joe, and I was with the young lady, Crystal, and another person, Don McCormick.
00:34:37.000You had just interviewed Jim, then met with Daniel Estelon and Mark at the site.
00:34:41.000We offered you a blowhorn, I guess you'd call that a bullhorn, but you hadn't decided to use one or not at that point.
00:34:49.000Obviously you got yourself one after all, because later I did bullhorn.
00:34:53.000Dom was overheard saying something along the lines, if the laws of cause and effect are intact, these buildings should come down.
00:35:00.000He was talking about 9-11 folks, everybody was.
00:35:03.000Daniel invited us to meet you at the embassy suites that you were staying at that evening to come out for dinner with your entourage and you could obviously would have loved that particular opportunity.
00:35:13.000I was exchanging email and phone numbers with your friend Mark.
00:35:16.000We left that same afternoon shortly after you left at around 1 p.m.
00:35:20.000or so we were followed into downtown core and Don was subsequently surrounded at gunpoint apprehended and taken to a clandestine facility operated by national security without warrant or arrest he was then threatened with violence and other harsh measures interrogated and humiliated after hours of this treatment he was released During the interrogation, the NSA official, Frank or Francisco, grilled him about his association with you and branded you an insurgent.
00:35:48.000Don was instructed to have no additional contact with yourself and to leave town immediately.
00:35:52.000Crystal and I were also taken in while Don was being interrogated, but our experience wasn't so bad.
00:35:58.000I've known him for two decades and released us after only a few hours.
00:36:01.000We were dropped off where the car was, but we were forced to wait in the back of a police cruiser until Don was subsequently dropped off.
00:36:08.000Our ordeal started about three-ish and ended about nine-thirty or ten o'clock at night.
00:36:12.000We are glad in a sense that We can talk about this now and nothing changes the fact that we believe in you and your movement more than ever.
00:36:20.000We also told you that we would be starting a branch of a movement up here in the North Canadian Patriot Activist Network and it goes on and says Alex, Don said he was willing to go on the record about his ordeal, names, name names and give you an interview and we now have Don with us, Don McCormick.
00:36:41.000Tell people a little bit about yourself and your respected guy in business there.
00:36:46.000I've been working for Hydro One as an electrician and all types of electrical generation at the province's own utility for over two decades.
00:37:00.000The reason I came to Ottawa is I'd seen your website and Alex, the bottom line is the truth is the truth.
00:37:09.000It always has been the truth and it always will be the truth.
00:37:29.000Now to be clear, you work for the government.
00:37:31.000You even work, I believe Kevin was telling me, on nuclear power plants.
00:37:34.000You're a mainstream guy with a security clearance.
00:37:37.000Now you don't have any record and then suddenly this all happens to you.
00:37:40.000Go back for me and describe exactly what happened.
00:37:44.000Well, I had been taking a rest in the back of a rental vehicle and it was pouring down rain and then there was a bang on the car saying, wake up and get out of the car.
00:37:56.000And, um, so when I woke up and opened the door, there was these officers that had guns pointed at me.
00:38:02.000And I've never had a gun pointed at me by a police officer.
00:38:25.000puddle of water, and for the first time in my life I had handcuffs put on me rather tightly, and I was taken into the back of a police car and questioned, and they kept saying that I was lying or leaving something out or whatever, and they wanted and they kept saying that I was lying or leaving something out or whatever, and they wanted to know what I knew about you and the It was a terrifying experience, as you can imagine.
00:38:59.000From what I can ascertain, they took me to a facility that is rarely used, was their description.
00:39:06.000I didn't see a lot of pictures on the wall.
00:39:08.000There was new paint, but the cells weren't cell bar doors.
00:39:11.000Like, these were maximum security cells with the full metal door and just a sliver of Clear plastic to lock in.
00:39:20.000Now, like, I want to make it clear that I have a hundred percent respect for the officers of the law, and I know they're just doing their job, but I don't know who would give them orders.
00:39:34.000First they said, when they pulled me out of the car, that they had a description of a man matching my description who had a gun.
00:39:43.000And then they arrested me I want to go back though.
00:40:01.000Specifically, you described to Kevin in a pre-interview that they took you to some facility that looked like an old building on the outside, but it was new inside.
00:40:09.000So was this a secretive type facility?
00:40:14.000I understand you're not from the city, I understand you're not in Ottawa, you don't live there, you're visiting, but let me describe, was it near a residential area, near big buildings?
00:40:22.000No, I think it was more like in the downtown core.
00:40:26.000It was several kilometers away from where they picked me up in the rental vehicle and I don't not know whether they tailed the vehicle since we left the conference, or whether they used the GPS on start.
00:40:41.000Well, Daniel Estolon was stopped, too, and questioned.
00:40:46.000So we know this was happening to other people.
00:40:47.000We were being tailed off and on, and even got some video of the people.
00:40:51.000But specifically now, they get you to the facility.
00:40:57.000The only thing that really kills fear is knowledge.
00:41:00.000And I didn't know what to think or do.
00:41:05.000I've read in various publications that with these new terrorist laws that they seem to have passed without any of the government officials looking at it, more or less, they can hold you indefinitely and without charges.
00:41:20.000And, you know, my grandfather fought in the World War He was injured at Vimy Ridge in the Thawm and I think he'd be appalled and roll over in his grave if he'd seen the type.
00:43:59.000Tell us exactly what this Frank person said.
00:44:02.000Well, Frank wanted to know about what I was doing in Ottawa while I was at the Bilderberg.
00:44:11.000Why I'd been there the night before, what was my relationship with you, how many people were with you, and so on.
00:44:20.000Because Joe Bird, in his email to us, and in our talks with him, we're going to get him on too, later, he specifically said that you were threatened, there were threats of violence, that this Frank person said that I was, quote, an insurgent.
00:44:35.000Well, I got the impression myself that That was what he was kind of describing you as.
00:44:44.000Specifically, what did he say about me?
00:44:46.000Well, he wanted to know how I knew you, what I knew about you, and I explained to him about PrisonPlanet.com and some of the websites, because I really believe that you are telling the truth, and I want him to believe that you are telling the truth.
00:45:03.000Sure, I understand why you're doing this, sir.
00:45:30.000He said that he was with the National Integrated National Security Agency and when I heard international and integrated national security team, that's when I started thinking Posse Pumatatus.
00:45:46.000They're integrating the RCMP and the military together in my opinion.
00:45:51.000What else did he specifically say about me?
00:45:53.000I'm sorry I'm interrogating you, I'm just trying to get it all out here.
00:46:33.000When they charged me with uttering death threats, then the only thing possibly remote that I could have said to that is that the laws of cause and effect are in place, if those people in those buildings are that evil, those buildings should fall over right now.
00:46:51.000I believe what comes around goes around, and I'm a peaceful man.
00:47:16.000And by the way, I don't agree with that, folks.
00:47:19.000I'm showing you what it would have looked like.
00:47:20.000The minute somebody would have agreed or just jokingly laughed, boom, it would have been national headlines, Alex Jones the terrorist, he's facing 20 years in prison, they torture me, if I agreed to plea bargain, they'd only give me a year in prison.
00:48:02.000And as far as I do more sleeping than talking on the way home is if they're listening to what I say.
00:48:08.000You know, psychological terror is a lot harder to heal than physical.
00:48:15.000Now think, did Frank say anything else about myself?
00:48:20.000You know Alex, the whole thing is so fast and so, like I was in shock.
00:48:30.000I'm scanning through my mind, but you did want to know how many people were in your quote-unquote entourage, and what... Well, we talked about... My major concern was this smart borders thing, which all Canadians should be concerned about, and the effect of the Patriot Act on smart borders.
00:48:50.000And when I start reading things like, if you believe in the second coming of Christ, or if you're a Christian, that you could be branded a terrorist, that's...
00:49:29.000That the Smart Borders Patriot Act does not apply in Canada, and that that is wrong, and that believing in... That's been in USA Today that we're merging our border systems.
00:49:44.000Well, I've been in the construction industry, and even in 1992 when they had these free trade agreements signed, That was the beginning of the end there, and even before that.
00:49:55.000Any other key things he said, Mr. McCormick?
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00:54:57.000Don, I know it sounds like I'm interrogating you.
00:54:59.000We just have limited time and I wanted to get all the answers.
00:55:03.000And that's why Joe has put up CPAN, so that other Canadians can join a peaceful information network on the web, because violence is just an attempt to gain control of a situation you don't have control of, and we don't need that because we are in control of the truth.
00:55:24.000Don, if you want to plug that website, tell us about it.
00:56:38.000They let them go earlier than you, and they had to wait there where the two cars were, according to their email and the discussions we had.
00:56:46.000The whole ordeal lasted more towards 11 o'clock, for like 8 hours, to tell you the truth.
00:56:51.000What was the last thing they said to you when they let you go?
00:56:54.000Well, one of the last things in the interrogation room was, if I was you, I would not go down near the Brook Street Hotel, because if you're picked up again, you will not be getting let go.
00:57:06.000And if I was you, I'd do more sleeping and less talking on your way home.
00:57:11.000What does that mean, you're not going to be let go?
00:57:17.000No, but I got, in my opinion, that would be Like I say, knowledge kills fear, and the fear of not knowing how long they can hold you, and how long they can hold you without charging you.
00:57:31.000Yeah, he was telling you you could be disappeared, and we know they have these holding facilities in every major city.
00:57:36.000We know there have been flights out of Canada, out of D.C., out of New York, hundreds of them, even using Red Sox planes, they even rent them, to fly, I'm not kidding folks, to fly people to these former Eastern Bloc gulags.
00:57:50.000So, this is chilling, but it shows that their tyranny isn't full power yet, or that those guys might not have, you know, be totally wicked yet, that they didn't do something to you, or they thought it would make a major incident.
00:58:03.000Yeah, well I have no criminal record, and for this to happen to an average tax-paying voting Canadian citizen is not right.
00:58:14.000Did they ask you over and over again if you were planning something violent?
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
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00:59:24.000Don McCormick and Joe Bird, and of course, Joe Bird's girlfriend, were picked up And Don was interrogated severely and told that he would not be getting back out if he went back down to the Bilderberg group where they were meeting.
00:59:40.000And they were very interested in myself.
00:59:41.000Of course, they had provocateurs there and then others that would pick up the provocateur chant.
01:00:26.000And I mean what I say, and I said what I meant, and an elephant's faithful 100%.
01:00:31.000I mean, I told these people what I was there for, period, and it shows how elitist the Bilderberg Group is, it shows their power, it shows how they can pull strings, it shows what they can do.
01:02:18.000So, if I fall and bump my head, or an 18-wheeler runs over me, or I die suddenly of a heart attack, or some two-week cancer, or I get found dead in a hotel room with heroin needles sticking out of my arms, with a prostitute cut up, you know it isn't true, ladies and gentlemen.
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01:08:46.000You go from the war on terror to Iraq to Venezuela to China and what's going on with all the stuff.
01:08:54.000What I'm doing is, for those who don't know me, I do Investigative reporting for BBC television, which, you know, Alex, I have to do over there because investigative reporting here is, I think, against Patriot Act 3 or something.
01:09:08.000They don't allow this stuff on the air.
01:09:10.000What I've got here, for example, are the secret plans for the oil fields of Iraq, which I was able to get out of Houston, which are written for the Iraqi government, imposed by the State Department, but written up by big oil.
01:09:23.000I've got here the inside documents from Choice Point and the companies which are illegally, you know, sucking up information about you and me and renting it out to the government.
01:09:34.000So you have like 60 illustrations in this beast because it's all these documents marked secret and confidential you're not supposed to see and BBC will actually allow me to go get them but they won't allow me to show it on U.S.
01:09:57.000This is the same stuff that the Treasury Secretary O'Neill was telling us that you actually get the documents.
01:10:03.000This is war profiteering in the extreme.
01:10:06.000It's a serious crime, in my opinion, and historically we have that precedent.
01:10:10.000You have the oil companies writing up the oil policy for the Iraqi government to basically then hand it over to them, proving that one of the pillars of this invasion is about snatching trillions of dollars in oil.
01:10:23.000See, one of the weird things is, and one of the horrible things is, I've got two documents.
01:10:29.000Conspiracy nuts think that Bush had a secret plan to seize and control the oil fields of Iraq before the invasion and even before September 11th.
01:10:39.000And that's not true, Alex, because I looked it up and we dug it out and we found out he had two plans.
01:10:44.000And the two plans, one written up by neocons, one written up by big oil, and the big oil plan, which is the one that ultimately won out It's not about, believe it or not, it's not about going to get the oil.
01:10:55.000It's not about blood for oil, it's about blood for no oil.
01:10:57.000They're not going in there to get you the oil to make it cheap to fill your Hummer.
01:11:03.000They're using the 82nd Airborne as Exxon's Exploration Company, not to find oil and bring it back, but to find oil and turn off the spigots.
01:11:11.000You read, I have a 320 three-page document.
01:11:15.000Written up by Big Oil and the James Baker III Institute Council on Foreign Relations.
01:11:21.000I know that a lot of people say, oh, this is conspiracy stuff.
01:11:26.000I found out these guys wrote up our policy because they told me themselves, the oil execs themselves, and the James Baker people.
01:11:34.000If you don't know who James Baker is, he was Secretary of State under Bush 1, Treasury Secretary under Ronald Reagan.
01:11:40.000He represents, he's the lawyer for Exxon Mobil, the lawyer for the Saudi Arabian government, and the lawyer kind of consigliere for the Bush family.
01:11:48.000And it's his crew that put this together.
01:11:51.000Now they say that they didn't put it together, Or they said they didn't even talk to me.
01:11:57.000And they threatened to sue, by the way, Harper's Magazine when I outed this stuff.
01:12:01.000Then the editor of Harper's said, you never talk to Palace?
01:12:22.000So they didn't know who they were talking to or why, and they let the stuff out.
01:12:26.000When I got the word about the oil companies drafting up the plans for Iraq's oil fields right out of Houston, even though it says Washington on it.
01:12:34.000First of all, by the way, the United States government told me in writing, when I say me, BBC television.
01:12:40.000They told us in writing there is no such plan.
01:12:42.000Defense Department, State Department, White House, in writing, there is no plan for the Iraqi oil industry that we've written.
01:13:46.000And just so you know, when you talk about crime, Alex, You have to understand, it is against the law for any American to participate in the oil cartel.
01:13:58.000King Abdullah gets away with having a cartel because, you know, there's an exception to American law saying, you know, that apparently that, you know, dictators and bathrobes and crowns are not part of They're not subject to our laws on monopolies.
01:14:10.000Yeah, the foreign governments who have kings, they're allowed to have monopolies, but in the U.S., going back to 1906 and the Sherman Antitrust Act, you can't do that.
01:14:18.000In fact, there's something called the Long Arm of the Sherman Antitrust Act, which says that any monopoly anywhere, including OPEC, Is against the US law.
01:14:26.000If any American is found helping out OPEC.
01:14:29.000Now of course the oil companies are cranking it in big time because of OPEC and they pretend to have nothing to do with it.
01:14:35.000But now we have a document showing that the James Baker people and the oil companies that worked with them like Petromina out of Indonesia for example was in on it.
01:14:44.000That these guys are using their own phrase.
01:15:04.000Now a lot of people I know think that George Bush screwed up in Iraq.
01:15:08.000You read his documents you realize he hasn't because you know when he came to office oil was 20 something a barrel like cheaper than peanut butter.
01:15:55.000And it's the same thing De Beers and the Oppenheimers do with diamonds.
01:15:59.000They go all over the world buying up the fields, paying people off, sending in mercenaries, bragging about it, because they're actually only semi-precious.
01:16:10.000In fact, In 1990, they were angry, OPEC, Bush Sr.
01:16:15.000and others, Europe was angry that Saddam was, quote, overproducing, driving oil prices down because he said, hey, I've got a 30-something billion dollar debt to BCCI and other people.
01:16:36.000We don't get involved in inter-Arab affairs.
01:16:38.000April Gillespie, we don't have a defense treaty with them.
01:16:40.000So understand, ladies and gentlemen, grabbing the oil in Afghanistan and then controlling Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and the other stands, Turkmenistan, that means China and India don't get it.
01:16:49.000See, it's about grabbing it and then shitting on it.
01:17:21.000But you actually have the enhanced OPEC document in there.
01:17:25.000But one of the things you'll find out that's interesting is, going back in history, Iraq was invented to control oil.
01:17:31.000Winston Churchill invented Iraq in 1920.
01:17:35.000And they set up a nation, they got in a guy named Faisal as king.
01:17:40.000Winston Churchill took the Kirkuk fields, the Basra fields, and the tar sands of Baghdad, put the three fields together, called it Iraq, invited in a guy named Faisal from Saudi Arabia, he said, you're king.
01:18:04.000And so what happened was that Faisal then flipped around and gave a concession to a consortium, including Anglo-Persian, which is now BP.
01:18:14.000Uh, Standard Oil, now Exxon, the company that's now Total France and Royal Dutch Shell, those four operators, in 1925, they sat in a hotel room in Brussels, laid out a map of the Mideast, took a red marker, now they didn't have markers, they took a red pen, Do you know the truth about breast cancer?
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01:23:00.000You have the oil company documents, where they're openly talking about stopping the flow.
01:23:04.000You expose peak oil as a big PR scam to make us think there's not enough oil to again create the illusion of artificial scarcity.
01:23:12.000You've got it all in here, but before we get into that, In 95 and 96, a bunch of documents were produced by the oil companies.
01:23:19.000In 2001, the Associated Press reported on it.
01:23:21.000It came back out last year where they said, we've got to buy up these hundreds of independent refineries in North America because there's too much oil.
01:23:28.000We can create an artificial bottleneck by buying them up.
01:23:31.000Then they blame the environmentalists and say, oh, it's all their fault.
01:23:36.000They're the reason that all the refineries have been shut down when we have their own smoking gun documents.
01:23:43.000Well, because they, uh... Do you realize that ExxonMobil is the second largest lifetime career giver to George W. Bush and the Bush family, uh, after Enron?
01:23:53.000I mean, you have to understand that, uh, who's, who's, uh, you know, who's bought the White House for these guys?
01:23:57.000And, and, you know, look, also, you know, you can't ignore the fact that These are the guys who shoplifted the White House, and the same guys helping shoplift the White House are the same guys, the same companies who are collecting the lists on Americans for the war on terror, and that's all about... You collect the lists?
01:24:13.000You know, everyone's worried about the civil liberties aspect.
01:24:56.000And then meanwhile, the Democratic Party's bought off by the same people.
01:25:01.000You can't buy Democrats, you can only rent them.
01:25:08.000Even Senator Day O'Connor, even Bob Woodward, all these people, Ron Paul, Congressman, they're all saying we're in danger of a dictatorship.
01:25:15.000They say Bush, with the signing statements, saying he's above the law, John Yoo, Alberto Gonzales saying he is the law, the pure principle.
01:25:25.000Can you speak to the fact, I mean, Greg Powell, are we in danger of having some form of a dictatorship?
01:25:31.000Well, it's a slow motion, soft dictatorship.
01:25:34.000In other words, when these guys start surveilling us, Okay, and it's against the Constitution.
01:25:39.000And they, by order, say that any law is subject to presidential elimination by signature, any of your rights.
01:25:46.000What is a dictatorship except one guy's... A dictatorship, by definition, is one guy saying, I can set the laws, I can ignore these laws, and I can accept those laws.
01:25:55.000When one man is above the laws, that is the definition of dictatorship.
01:26:01.000Getting into this particular document here in front of me from page 99, Enhanced Government Relationship with OPEC, USA will maintain the contents confidential, should not be reproduced, distributed or used.
01:26:13.000What does this document specifically cover?
01:26:14.000Okay, what that document is covering, and it's part of the 300 page document, this is part of that document developed by the big oil companies, For the Iraq, development of the Iraq oil fields and the Iraq oil industry.
01:26:26.000And it's all about, it's not about selling the oil fields.
01:26:29.000The other plan I have, the neocons had a plan to say, sell off the oil fields.
01:26:33.000And big oil said, that ain't how you do it.
01:26:35.000And by the way, you know, the guys I spoke to, you have to understand, are not low level guys.
01:26:39.000I spoke to people like Phil Carroll, who's CEO of Shell Oil.
01:26:43.000And, you know, again, a lot of these people didn't realize I was wired.
01:26:46.000By the way, Carol was at the Bilderberg Group meeting last week, and I was there, and I got picked up and interrogated.
01:26:53.000Other people that were there got picked up and asked if they were terrorists and stuff.
01:27:01.000I mean, this stuff's really happening.
01:27:03.000Yeah, well, you know, it's fascinating, though, to talk to these oil guys.
01:27:06.000I mean, they're deeply concerned that Saddam was out of control, as they put it.
01:27:11.000That he was jerking the oil markets up and down.
01:27:13.000And now I have, also in the book, the maps of Iraq and its oil fields that Dick Cheney went over with oil company executives in March of 2001.
01:27:21.000You have to understand, that's within six weeks of the inauguration, guys.
01:27:26.000This is no September 11th attack or anything.
01:27:28.000We already had the maps out of the oil fields of Iraq.
01:28:17.000When we get back, we've got a long segment, plenty of time to talk.
01:28:19.000I want to get into what this global plan is, because you've got the 300 page document, and that can give us a window into what's going to happen in the future, what the neocons want, what the oil companies want, how these two different bodies, you know, how their program Converges, where it differs, and how Europe ties into all this, what you see happening in the future.
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01:32:06.000And he's the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, Armed Madhouse, Who's Afraid of Osama Wolf, China Floats, Bush Sinks, The Scheme is Still 08, No Child Behind Left.
01:32:20.000I want to get into their big plan in the future, what you know from talking to these executives.
01:32:25.000and 300 page document but right now you have done something bold here because the left is in love with what i've tracked back to be oil company propaganda and it's like a religion they all over austin all over new york when i travel these cities when i was in canada peak oil peak oil there's no more oil we're all dead you know we have to pay 500 a gallon it's all over we're running out of crude dude i'm I mean, one of the problems is, Alex, and I lost a lot of my supporters, and I'm sorry about this, but I'm an investigative reporter, so I investigated peak oil.
01:32:55.000What I found out is that it was created by shell oil.
01:32:58.000And I call it the shell game in there.
01:33:00.000By a guy named Hubbard, who is the chief geologist for Shell.
01:33:03.000And Shell was trying, was panicked because they were finding all this new oil in the Mideast, and so what are they going to do?
01:33:13.000So they announced, instead of that, God we've got a lot of new oil, they said, well let's tell you we've got a lot of new oil, but you know, it's going to run out, it's going to peak, it's going to suddenly collapse on us.
01:33:21.000And now the latest thing that I found, by the way Alex, and I show it in the book, inside the Department of Energy, Inside the Department of Energy is a document showing that while, yes, we're going to start running to the end of Saudi Arabia's oil, it's not going to be so quick by the way, that if you add in what they call the Orinoco Extra Heavy Oil, that that reserve And 90% of it's in Venezuela.
01:33:48.000That reserve is five times bigger than the Saudi Arabian reserve.
01:34:20.000I know, it just makes me become speechless to have the documents in front of me, to see the same documents, to track back peak oil when it's first started getting promoted 6, 7, 8 years ago, to see that it was being financed through these Shell grants to Russian scientists, to see that it emanated from one of their chief petroleum geologists.
01:34:41.000I have family who are petroleum geologists.
01:34:44.000My family has worked in the oil fields, you know, from the level of Roughnecks to the level of chief engineers running huge refineries in Houston.
01:34:54.000And we, about five, six years ago, I first started learning about Peak Oil, and I knew it was a fraud then.
01:35:00.000I started talking to family, and they said it is the biggest joke on the world.
01:35:04.000We have so much oil, they're finding it in the North Sea, they're finding it in Russia, they're finding it in India, it's in China.
01:35:27.000So I showed him the, you know, the Department of Energy material saying he had more oil than Saudi Arabia.
01:35:31.000He said, well, hey, Greg, I know that.
01:35:34.000What he was saying, though, what he was concerned about is that, you know, obviously you had the Reverend Pat Robertson say, you know, Hugo Chavez, he's the President of Venezuela, thinks you're trying to assassinate him.
01:35:46.000Well, I think we should just go ahead and do it.
01:35:50.000He's paranoid saying they want to kill him, but they're on the news saying kill him.
01:35:53.000Four days after you came on my show in 2002, on my show, it's in my book, Is It Deterrenting?, the transcript, that transcript got put in a bunch of foreign newspapers.
01:36:14.000And by the way, that was very helpful, your show, because one of the things that he credits with saving his life, because they kidnapped him and obviously the next move was to kill him.
01:36:22.000But by getting out the word that he was in fact kidnapped, that it was an illegal coup d'etat, the U.S.
01:36:26.000State Department said he had resigned, was in despair, and of course they were going to say he committed suicide or something like that, because it was a lie.
01:37:40.000And one of the big reasons, by the way, is that he said, look, Abdullah gives you all his money back.
01:37:47.000Basically, almost all the petrodollars, all the big money we spend on our oil goes out to the Mideast, through the oil companies, out to the Mideast and back into the U.S.
01:38:37.000Now, Chavez has reversed and said, fine.
01:38:40.000If the oil companies say, if I cut oil prices, you're just going to restrict your production, fine.
01:38:47.000You want me to do the deal, then I'm going to start taxing the oil companies a modest amount when you explore and develop here for my people, and it's a very small percentage.
01:40:56.000Think of it as an oil tax at the pump, which goes out through Exxon, out to Saudi Arabia and back.
01:41:02.000Now, as you know, the Koran prohibits the charging of interest, but King Abdullah doesn't mind grabbing a big pound of flesh from us.
01:41:09.000And also the Chinese are big, big lenders, about almost two-thirds of a trillion dollars at this point.
01:41:16.000And the result is these extra high interest rates in the U.S., which has been killing off the auto industry, killing off the airline industry.
01:41:23.000And you have to understand, these are unionized, high-wage industries, which are now becoming low-wage industries.
01:41:56.000When Mohamed Mozadek, man of the year time magazine, humanitarian, poet, pro-America, kicked the Communists out of his country.
01:42:03.000Comrade Roosevelt, before he died, went on NPR and admitted that our government carried out terror attacks in Iran to then blame it on Mosaddegh.
01:42:10.000They put him on house arrest, cut his minister's heads off.
01:42:13.000Can you speak to specifically what happened in Iran?
01:43:39.000Every time the price of oil gets towards $60 a barrel, suddenly Mad Mahmoud out there in Tehran says, "We're going to blow up Israel." Or next time it drops, he goes, we've got bugs and bombs!
01:43:49.000And then if it drops again, Bush says, oh, we're going to go get them!
01:43:52.000And each time either Bush or Mad Makhmoud says something, the price of oil is up another $5 to $8 a barrel.
01:43:58.000You have to look at the timing of those statements.
01:44:43.000I know, but you know, the problem is that we created this fanatic Islamic politicized force, dangerous force, which wasn't there before.
01:44:52.000They had an elected government of Iran.
01:44:54.000We overthrew him because he grabbed the oil fields and we empowered these maniac mullahs.
01:44:58.000Well, I mean, I actually looked the documents up and I have Kerr-Roosevelt's after-action reports to Ted Downing Street like they're his boss and to President Eisenhower and he wasn't asking for that much of the BP oil.
01:45:11.000He was just saying, can we keep some of it?
01:46:37.000And what we're finding now is that the neocons are in twilight right now because they, look, when they're trying to grab the assets of Iran, that was one thing.
01:46:47.000When they try to grab the oil fields without the permission of the oil companies and have their own scheme, they got slapped around big, big, big time.
01:46:52.000So you agree with some of the other inside experts we've got that there is a split?
01:46:57.000Yeah, there's a split between big oil and the neocons.
01:47:00.000The big oil has a big long-term picture.
01:47:02.000And they're not big oil ain't talking about democracy in the Mideast.
01:47:06.000They're talking about controlling those oil fields and as they use their phrase, enhancing OPEC, making sure that no one busts the quotas.
01:47:14.000Unfortunately, I would say the obvious thing for these guys to do is to assassinate the President of Venezuela.
01:47:20.000Unfortunately, that's an obvious thing for them to do.
01:47:23.000We are now in a virtual Cold War with all of Latin America.
01:47:29.000This is a very dangerous business right now.
01:48:55.000Oil's at 70 bucks a barrel, but someone's got to take a fall.
01:48:57.000Well, they call it the strategy of balkanization.
01:48:59.000I have an Israeli document, 1983 Pentagon documents.
01:49:02.000Well, in fact, when I talked to General Jay Garner, as you'll see in the book, General Jay was our first viceroy that we put in charge, Alex.
01:49:11.000They don't want any sovereign nations.
01:49:13.000Well, in fact, when I talked to General Jay Garner, as you'll see in the book, General Jay was our first vice-fra that we put in charge, Alex.
01:49:20.000And in our manhouse, I actually met with him.
01:49:23.000And he was saying we could have had peace between these factions, but obviously they didn't want it.
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01:54:37.000Folks, you need to get armed at Madhouse by Greg Palast.
01:55:01.000I want to spend a few minutes getting into that, because don't liberals out there, or progressives, or conservatives, don't we all just want the truth?
01:55:10.000Not some lie that we've accepted as the truth becomes some religious orthodoxy.
01:55:14.000Peak oil is a scam, is a fraud, is a hoax, and I'm sick of it.
01:55:19.000Can you specifically, as we end this hour, Speak to the evidence, the chapter in the book on this, and how now some of your grassroots people are now mad at you.
01:55:29.000Hey folks, Gregg doesn't lie to you, he does the research!
01:55:32.000I mean, I went into the peak oil situation just to see what that was about, and what I found is that, you know, it was basically put together by Shell Oil to convince us, number one, that oil is scarce, so it's got to be much more expensive.
01:55:44.000Because remember, when they came out with peak oil, it was already down to a nickel a gallon and dropping.
01:55:51.000Shell was in a panic, so they announced, well, it looks like we've got a lot, but we're about to run out of it.
01:55:55.000The second is to convince you that we need to secure the supply.
01:56:07.000And that we have to protect our, and that because it's scarce, we have to protect our supplies, which means the takeover of Iran, the overthrow of Mossadegh, the control of Iraq, the whole thing.
01:56:18.000Even a lot of conservatives, either they say, oh we don't want the oil, see it's not being pumped, well that's artificial scarcity.
01:56:23.000Then the other camp of neocon, the conservatives, because they're not real conservatives, they say, oh yeah, we need that oil, peak oil.
01:56:32.000Well, the other thing that's happening is that, look, I understand why environmentalists kind of like the idea of peak oil, because they say, look, we're running out, so we better move to something else.
01:56:38.000We better move to something else for two other reasons.
01:57:09.000And then transfer all of our wealth, using it as the only world currency, using oil as a world currency, forcing us to use that world currency, and then jacking up the prices so more and more of our economy goes into funding these guys, which then they put back into the till to get even more control.
01:57:23.000No one's explained to me why oil companies would hide the fact That, uh, we're running out of oil.
01:58:20.000I mean, just flipping through your new book, Arm Madhouse, it is really impressive, and I can tell you right now, I do want to carry this.
01:58:27.000I mean, just for the peak oil chapter alone, you've got the documents on the oil companies.
01:58:31.000Let's shift gears to what George Bush and his handlers really are.
01:58:35.000I mean, I've interviewed Ann Coulter, and I would say, well, Section 802 of the Patriot Act says that all Americans are basically terrorists, and she says, no it doesn't, you're a liar, and then she says, I haven't read the Patriot Act, but she wrote it.
01:58:47.000I mean, literally, I have congressmen, senators, Nobel Prize winners on, the best journalists.
01:58:53.000I mean, I don't consider myself to be real smart, but I have a lot of smart people on, so I'm pretty informed.
01:58:57.000She was one of the stupidest people I've ever talked to, and they talked about how smart she was in all this, and then she attacks the widows of 9-11 just to get publicity, and she looks like this ring-wraith type And again, it's not about any culture, folks.
01:59:11.000It's about the fact that Time Magazine, everybody promotes her.
01:59:14.000Why are they promoting this monster who has said stuff like, we need to kill more innocent Iraqis?
01:59:20.000Well, it's more fun and games than distraction, Alex.
01:59:23.000Look, when Greg Palast goes on BBC television and says, here's the inside documents from the oil industry for Iraq, when I show you the documents on the theft of the election, when I show you the documents from inside the Homeland Security operations, Well, that's what you have on the world TV, but in the United States you've got Ann Coulter talking about the godless terrorists that were killed by the terrorists.
01:59:49.000So what happens is fun and games and distraction.
02:00:15.000But by any yardstick, Bush Has spent more money than all presidents combined, he's doubled the size of the BATF, signed back on to UN treaties, done all these things for totally open borders, he constantly lies, and still so-called conservatives worship him and worship Ann Coulter, who's a low-grade moron!
02:00:32.000Well, I mean, what she is, is she is a front person for the control regime.
02:00:38.000What she is selling us is the whole, she's bringing back the whole fear agenda.
02:00:56.000Well, we have Buzzy Crongaard, who was Executive Director of the CIA, telling the Times of London, Oh, we know where he is, but we don't want him.
02:01:04.000Well, you know, look, Clinton turned him down when they had him cornered in cartoon.
02:01:08.000You have to remember that You know, once again, the guy that's holding all our lists is this guy, Derek Smith, who's chairman of Choice Point Corporation.
02:01:18.000By the way, he's now under investigation for insider trading for failing to tell his stockholders that his company had given out 145,000 personal files to identity thieves, a ring of identity thieves.
02:01:34.000So, what's happened is that he said, you know, if we only had these lists of Americans, and your DNA, too, We could have gotten the hijackers when they came to the airports to check in.
02:02:41.000They're the ones with reporters on the payroll of the government.
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02:05:55.000We're going to be taking your calls here in just a minute or two.
02:05:57.000And Greg's got to go catch a plane for a big event he's going to be having in Houston.
02:06:03.000My last question for you before we go to calls, and you can add anything else you'd like that you haven't had a chance to cover, Really, where is it all going?
02:06:14.000Because I've studied American history, I've studied world history, I don't claim to be a historian, but I know quite a bit about it, more than most, and I've never, and I mean this, folks, you know I hate Bill Clinton, attacking ceaselessly so did Greg, I mean, all these guys have been serious crooks in the past, really since they killed Kennedy.
02:06:30.000And there were some crooks before them.
02:06:31.000But the wild level, I don't know if you saw this, Greg, but John Yoo, White House Counsel, says we can torture kids in front of their parents, crushing their... And I keep bringing that up on the show because he got confronted at a CFR meeting in Chicago.
02:06:45.000Even CFR members, the establishment guys, said, did you really say this?
02:07:07.000His White House memo was, we can torture children in front of their parents, including... I don't want to say it again.
02:07:11.000The point is, is that that is Mingala stuff out in the open.
02:07:15.000That does scare me at a certain level.
02:07:18.000It shocks me that it's so over the top.
02:07:21.000Yeah, well in fact I think that some of the establishment, there is this internal battle we talked about between Neocons and Big Oil.
02:07:26.000Big Oil wants a much more sophisticated approach.
02:07:30.000I think they're getting a bit nervous about this stuff and that's why I was picking up out of Houston and out of New York from the guys on the inside that they were not too happy about some of this cowboy stuff that's Well, you can see the media, for the first two years after 9-11, they gave Bush carte blanche.
02:09:19.000I guess Gunz also writes some type of law that says that, you know, that as long as the Vice President is packing, whatever he does is okay.
02:09:29.000Well, just so you know, I've done a lot of bird hunting.
02:09:32.000He wasn't the 90 feet away that they claim, because even with the most high-powered shotgun load, it doesn't go into the heart of that range.
02:09:54.000Pre-September 11th, my understanding is Breda's Corp out of Argentina had to deal with the Taliban for taking the oil pipeline through that country of Afghanistan.
02:10:39.000And keep in mind that the deal that was brokered between UNICAL and the Taliban was brokered by Khalilzad, who is now the U.S. ambassador to Iraq.
02:10:50.000When you say ambassador, you have to understand this guy is basically the dictator and overlord of Iraq.
02:12:26.000Number one, let's not fall in love with any politician anywhere.
02:12:30.000Obviously, Chavez is acting in his own interest, his own political interest.
02:12:34.000The fact is, and even the people who hate him and despise him down in Venezuela will say that he has turned those cardboard houses into brick-and-mortar houses and that people are, of all classes, are now way, way, way better off than they ever were.
02:12:48.000For the first time ever, an oil boom money is going back down to the people.
02:13:36.000Well, the only thing I'm saying right now is that, like you said, Chavez is doing it for his own interest, and the people are not.
02:13:43.000They are taking land away from people.
02:13:45.000They're not giving them land and deeds.
02:13:47.000What they're doing is taking the people who live in the shacks up on the hills.
02:13:52.000They're illegal Colombians that came to that country of the past 40 to 50 years see this is what it's going to happen in our country as soon as you know I can give it a few more years and the people who have been working the land okay a little explain it to me what should be done what are you saying well I just think to give challenge you don't want to say I'm an elected president do you know I'm not saying it but you know you say that there they were not fair elections I I was down there for much of the demonstrations.
02:14:52.000Two questions, one for you Greg, one for you Alex.
02:14:55.000Greg, what I hear and what I sense is that there's a An effort to consolidate South America so as to cause problems for the New World Order.
02:15:11.000I think I heard on your show where somebody was saying that you were agreeing that World Vision, this Christian organization, as well as other leaders like Pat Robertson, John Hagee, others, Are really not, especially World Vision, being operated by the CIA?
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02:22:27.000It's like dressing up like a cop and robbing a bank.
02:22:31.000These same people who don't like the terrorists, they were for the ANC in the 1980s overthrow a white Christian government in South Africa.
02:22:42.000Well, they're there to overthrow any sovereign government, anything that's independent, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent.
02:22:48.000I'm not judging, you know, saying whether Serbia is good or South Africa is good.
02:22:51.000The point is, something far worse is always brought in.
02:23:04.000And while we're busy talking about all these issues, I know that The transcript of the Greg Powell's interview that we did back in 2002 in March was published in hundreds of newspapers from Italy to Caracas, Venezuela.
02:23:19.000And I knew that Hugo Chavez had sourced and used our interview in the media.
02:23:26.000I knew that it had been quoted on television.
02:23:28.000I didn't know that in a private meeting with Chavez that he had said that that interview was one of the things that saved him.
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02:23:40.000We got millions of readers just on our site.
02:23:43.000It got, quote, web syndicated, posted on thousands of other sites.
02:23:46.000So see, there we are having a difference, making a difference.
02:23:49.000And I'm not saying Hugo Chavez is perfect.
02:23:51.000But I think Greg Powell has got his head screwed on pretty straight.
02:23:53.000He impressed me today about how it looks like Ahmed Dinejad may be a globalist operative.
02:23:58.000At the bare minimum, he's playing along.
02:24:01.000And, you know, he's saying that Chavez isn't.
02:24:04.000I mean, they've had him at gunpoint on a helicopter about to kill him, and it got out in the news, so they had to release him.
02:24:10.000I mean, this is the type of stuff we're talking about here.
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02:24:27.000to supposedly plunge into the coast off of Alaska.
02:24:31.000I mean, firing missiles, test firing them, doing this, this has happened, they're getting ready to do it again, but they're okay!
02:24:37.000They're just threatening to nuke us, they've just got A-bombs, they've got hydrogen bombs, but they're okay, but we've got to, you know, go into the Middle East and we've got to bring, quote, democracy to the Iraqis when it's the opposite of democracy.
02:24:49.000They're bringing bedlam and genocide and extermination to them.
02:24:53.000We're going to break and come back and take more calls at 1-800-259-9231.
02:24:59.000And it looks like we're going to have William Rodriguez, one of the heroes of 9-11, on with us here briefly because he just got back from Malaysia giving a big speech to thousands about 9-11 being an inside job.
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02:31:22.000He was the last non-emergency worker to be pulled, the last, quote, civilian.
02:31:27.000And he'll be at the 9-11 conference speaking as one of the key speakers on Sunday.
02:31:32.000I'm really looking forward to shaking this man's hand.
02:31:36.000And he's got some good news back from Malaysia.
02:31:38.000He's been traveling the world with Jimmy Walter, the philanthropist, who spent over $7 million waking people up to 9-11 being an inside job.
02:31:50.000Good to have you on with us, Mr. Rodriguez.
02:31:53.000Thank you, Alex, and I'm so glad to... Greetings from New York.
02:31:56.000I'm actually, like I said, back from... Yeah, he's on a computer phone, and when you get him connected again, tell him to turn... to get back off his phone.
02:33:39.000It'll be an added layer of bureaucracy, and under these international bodies, you don't have the free speech, you don't have the constitutions, but you think that's a good idea.
02:34:35.000The Alex Jones Show would not be on if we were in China right now.
02:34:40.000Let me stop you and comment on what you're saying one point at a time, and I'm about to go back to William, but I just want to finish with your call.
02:34:48.000Number one, the very people that support China, the very people de-industrializing Canada and the U.S., the very people doing all of this are the very ones that want the American Union.
02:34:57.000So how do you come to the conclusion that a North American Union is somehow going to help our economy and stop the shift to buying everything from China?
02:35:12.000Because we'll be investing, if we invest in our own state, our North American state, where we get all our manufacturing from Mexico.
02:35:54.000Great news, actually, this is an exclusive from America, and you have the exclusive.
02:35:58.000We just got back from the International Islamic Media, the first one ever done in the world, and we were the special keynote speakers, and I tell you something, it changed the mindset of the Malaysian people forever.
02:36:13.000We were on TV every single day for the last 10 days.
02:36:48.000And not only that, remember, it's the largest Muslim country that has all three religions actually in there.
02:36:55.000They've got Christians, they've got Muslims, and they've got Buddhists.
02:36:59.000And I tell you something, it was a historical, historical event, because it was the first time they had a 9-11 victim.
02:37:07.000Come directly to the Muslim world, tell them my story, for example, tell them my story, and at the same time do the outreach so they will know that we're actually not blaming the Muslim or Islam for what happened on 9-11.
02:37:21.000And that was actually... Well, tell us who you talked to, what you presented.
02:37:27.000We talked, actually we did the conference with all the highest protocol people from the government.
02:37:34.000We're talking about the Minister of Foreign Relations.
02:37:38.000We spoke to Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, who was the former Prime Minister of Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur, as a new progressive country.
02:37:51.000We spoke directly to people from their version of Congress and The incredible thing that after we went on every television show, on Friday, they have a hundred people in front of the American Embassy, just by themselves, actually asking, requesting that the 9-11 Truth be told.
02:38:14.000They actually gave a paper to the ambassador, a request directed from the government of the United States, because he changed the whole outlook.
02:38:21.000Well, I think what you and Jimmy Walter are doing traveling the world, going all over TV, all over radio, all over print, getting top covered from Venezuela to Malaysia to Europe, I think what you're doing is key.
02:38:34.000And so if half the Americans in major polls now believe 9-11 was an inside job, not that the government covered up or did something else.
02:38:42.000No, half of them now in a Zogby poll believe the government was involved.
02:38:46.000What are the numbers in these foreign countries you're going to?
02:38:49.000Listen, from here we're going to Indonesia.
02:38:53.000From Indonesia we're going to Australia, then Japan, then back to London, and then back to the United States.
02:39:01.000And then we have to go back to Venezuela where we started the whole trip.
02:39:06.000As you may remember, you got the exclusive as well from the Chavez government that they want to do an investigation about 9-11.
02:39:11.000So now we are having this international consensus That crimes against humanity happened on 9-11, and that the government of the United States did not do the proper investigation.
02:39:22.000So, with this as a presentation letter to the top officials of both these governments... Well, just a... Just a, just a guesstimation, William Rodriguez.
02:39:39.000Just a guesstimation, William, what percentage of the Malaysians do you think believe it's an inside job?
02:39:44.000I tell you easier, what they said on national television was the following statement, and don't take my word for it, go on the internet, put William Rodriguez, 9-11, Kuala Lumpur, and you get all the information.
02:39:56.000He said that since we went to Malaysia, to Kuala Lumpur, the mindset of the Malaysian people about 9-11 has changed forever.
02:40:10.000So, that will tell you that the mindset in general... Remember, we are invited by Saba Islamic Media, which is the biggest Islamic organization, to do this presentation.
02:40:25.000And, like I said, it was historical, and now they want to represent us all over the Muslim world to take us around to tell the story.
02:40:36.000Well, the globalists can't ignore this, and they're losing ground at every front, and we're trying to save lives, people.
02:40:41.000If we don't expose 9-11 as an inside job, they will continue to use it as a foundational event to push the domestic police state and the invasion of all these countries.
02:40:50.000William, I know you just got... And Alex, you said something very interesting, because now Malaysia, the government itself, states publicly that they are joining the World Against Terror.
02:41:00.000And what we explained to the people, directly to the people, was that they are actually being open to have the same violation of civil rights as it happened in the United States.
02:41:11.000Wow, so you're also there defending their freedom.
02:41:13.000Certainly, governments worldwide have been using 9-11 themselves to set up police states, so you're really defending freedom globally now.
02:41:21.000How many countries have you been to, William?
02:41:55.000Anything else you'd like to say in closing?
02:41:57.000Again, in closing, this is a unique opportunity that the audience have to see the last survivor of 9-11 to speak publicly in the United States, because I'm actually closing all my engagements in the United States, since I am so involved in doing outreach in other countries.
02:42:14.000So, this is a unique opportunity, and if they want to do it, it has to be on the Alex Jones.
02:43:47.000I've just got to go to this thing just to meet him and possibly meet you.
02:43:52.000The interview you had earlier on with this fellow who got detained in Canada, there are a lot of ways to interpret that and I just wonder if that wasn't all about just intimidating the Alex Jones I have a feeling these people have the ability to tap into this guy's communications.
02:44:20.000They would have known if he posed any threat.
02:44:22.000So I think they wanted to happen exactly what did happen, which was his story to go to you And then to be broadcast out to all the listeners about Jones.
02:44:55.000Women are Very social creatures, they like to do things in packs, and they like to see five other people doing the same thing around them, and it's harder for them, I think, even than for men to stand up and expose themselves to ridicule, even when they know they're dead right.
02:45:12.000But that's what we have to be willing to do.
02:45:14.000Like the old prophets in the Old Testament, you have to, in the face of people spitting on you, When you know you're right, you have to be willing to get in there.
02:45:55.000So you plant your seeds and you come back six months or a year later and a lot of these people will wake up even though they were scoffing at you at the moment.
02:46:34.000Police have been going a little bit overbounds.
02:46:38.000But anyway, there are two things that I wanted to I'm taking it personal in this whole thing, and I'm changing majors to a math communications, just so it can be more effective and to have tools necessary to explain to people things that are going on out there.
02:46:58.000I've already got my electronics associates, which is basically useless, so I don't feel really bad about that.
02:47:05.000But the other thing is I did launch that website, and what I wanted to devote it to is an alternative media outlet.
02:47:13.000And if you have an overflow story that you can't fit on your website, I would talk to your webmaster, and you would send me a clip, a file, or whatever, and I would post or something.
02:47:25.000So that's something that I would... You better have a lot of bandwidth.
02:47:33.000But anyway, one of the things I was going to comment on was, do you remember back in the early 90s, late 80s, when they used to have media that would detail these kind of New World Order things?
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02:54:06.000My question was, This case with Stephen Hatfield and his volunteer former federal prosecutor, Thomas Connolly, helping him out, is this just the government's way of paying him for the job well done?
02:54:18.000No, they go after an innocent person knowing that it'll be a dead-end trail.
02:54:22.000It's like Janice Karpinski, the general over all the camps.
02:54:25.000She wasn't allowed into the wings that were CIA contractor run.
02:55:09.000We know the name of an Israeli operative that worked at the lab, who had signed into those areas where he wasn't supposed to be, where the anthrax was, and all the evidence we have points away from Hatfield.
02:55:22.000Okay, so I don't know why Hatfield would, who they claim was making it in a bucket.
02:55:30.000It took a huge factory to make this stuff.