Alex Jones announces the release of his new film, Police State 3, and Jack McClam joins the show to talk about the new world order and the need for open borders and immigration. Alex Jones is an American comedian, podcaster, writer, and podcaster. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times, USA Today, and the Wall Street Journal, and is one of the most influential people in the conservative movement.
00:00:26.000It is Tuesday, the 11th day of July, 2006.
00:00:29.000We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:00:34.000Coming up at the bottom of the next hour, the second hour, Richard Linklater, the award-winning movie director.
00:00:43.000We'll be joining us to talk about his new film, A Scanner Darkly, that opened in select theaters to incredible reviews by the critics Friday and will be expanding out the next month nationwide.
00:00:56.000It is showing here in Austin, Texas, New York, Chicago, LA, places like that.
00:01:02.000So, Richard Linkletter will be joining us to talk about his dystopic near-future police state film, A Scanner Darkly, that deals with problem, reaction, solution, for thirty minutes of the next hour.
00:01:16.000In the third hour, we have Jack McClam, police and military, against the New World Order.
00:01:22.000For the last month, he's been doing his own program, Monday through Friday, right here on the GCN Radio Network.
00:01:30.000And Jack McClam has been fighting the New World Order for what is it, 24, 25 years?
00:01:35.000He's an icon, an expert on the Globalist Crime Syndicate, the International Crime Rings, and he'll be joining us to talk about some of the current events that are transpiring here domestically and internationally on this planet.
00:01:52.000We are going to have open phones in this first hour.
00:01:55.000Any news item, any issue, any question, any comment, you agree with me, you disagree with me, you want to talk about the North Korea situation, what's happening with the economy and the dollar, gas prices, NSA spying, how the midterm elections are shaping up for a big Democratic win.
00:02:15.000Whatever you'd like to discuss, it's a huge grab bag of issues.
00:04:06.000But when we get back, I first want to focus in a little bit on the situation with North Korea and some of the new developments with the American Union that is now one of the hottest issues in the United States.
00:04:22.000Finally, after decades of people trying to expose this ongoing public program, it is now broken into the mainstream and I would sincerely hope that callers to this broadcast would bring that subject up and give us your take, your view on it.
00:04:39.000What's happened is, individuals now, the twin hottest issue of open borders and immigration, people have now figured out that that is inexorably intertwined as part of the same agenda to bring you the American Union and kill the United States of America.
00:05:18.000The film documents dozens of confirmed cases of government-sponsored terrorism worldwide.
00:05:22.000We rip the Sinister Patriot Act legislation 1 and 2 apart, piece by piece, and reveal the arrogance of what Ashcroft has to say about your liberty.
00:05:31.000Homeland Security, executive orders, forced vaccinations, the new prison economy, the Total Information Society, the Pan-American Union, federal gun grabs, government-run white slavery rings, and much, much more.
00:05:42.000If you want to understand what the new world order really is, then my new two-and-a-half-hour video, Police Day 3, is for you.
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00:07:40.000Life is short, and timing is everything.
00:08:27.000When we have a major victory, I think a lot of people on the truth movement, the patriot movement, the libertarian movement, the smaller government movement, the freedom movement, whatever name you want to ascribe to your particular ilk of freedom lover.
00:08:43.000We don't really spend enough time on the victories that we've had.
00:08:46.000And one of the biggest victories is 9-11.
00:08:50.000Half of Americans in scientific polls believe the U.S.
00:08:53.000government elements of it carried out the attacks.
00:08:56.000Sixty-eight percent, this is in two separate polls, believe that the government is covering up what happened on 9-11 and quote, may have consciously failed to act.
00:09:07.000Fifty percent, or if you want to get technical, forty-eight percent believe that the U.S.
00:09:16.000And we have the former Marine Corps historian, the head historian, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense going public and saying it's a cover-up and a lie and a fraud.
00:09:25.000We have the head of the largest victims of 9-11, the largest group of victims' families going public saying all the evidence points towards an inside job.
00:09:36.000We have stood up in the face of the storm Many of you since day one and warned people and made copies of DVDs and VHS tapes and posted on blogs and message boards and called into radio talk shows and when you get half the people And that's in a scientific Zogby poll where they're calling people up at their homes and asking these questions.
00:10:03.000I guarantee you it's higher than 50% because a lot of people would be nervous and wouldn't want the NSA that's listening in to know what their true views are or don't want to tell some stranger something that's controversial.
00:10:21.000And that's why they've announced the NSA is spying on us.
00:10:23.000That's why they've made it so prominent.
00:10:25.000It's been verifiable in industry publications and in government documents since 1996 that all this was going on with the NSA.
00:10:34.000But see, now they're trying to announce this to kill street corner talk, to kill talk on the bus, or talk around the water cooler, or talk at church.
00:10:43.000It is an attempt to intimidate The American people, the people of the West, the people of the world, and it's not going to work.
00:10:52.000So, that is really exciting, and I was thinking about it last night, how blessed we are and how important this is, because 9-11 is the foundational event for this entire New World Order operation that we see unfolding.
00:11:09.000And more importantly, if we do not expose 9-11, the New World Order crime syndicate will continue to carry out terror attacks to forward an expansion of their ongoing program of world government and world domination and individual enslavement and micromanagement by the control freak high priest of the New World Order system.
00:11:31.000So it is so important that we do this.
00:11:34.000They are facing great setbacks at every level.
00:11:37.000Worldwide, the neocon current crop of managers that work for the Illuminati are in deep trouble.
00:11:46.000It doesn't mean they're out of the fight.
00:13:07.000Believe that we can stand up and expose the evil and stand against the darkness.
00:13:12.000Another piece of wonderful news, and I'm going to your calls, and that is that Glenn Beck last night on CNN, who is a horrible little neocon, very deceptive, but he knows where the ratings are.
00:13:29.000He's being forced to come out and say, gee, I hate conspiracy theories, but I tell you, when one is admitted and documented, you've got to cover it, and America's dying, we're going into an American Union.
00:13:41.000He's doing it because he's a sniveling creature for ratings.
00:14:10.000You want to get precise, technical, specific?
00:14:14.000Major polls in this state, 97% against the transponder tolls, and that's with people not even knowing 5% of the full story of what the American Union means.
00:14:27.000And so, now we have all of these different mainstream publications and TV shows going, well, we can't deny it, it's true, American Union.
00:14:45.000The Bilderberg Group, of course, set up in 1954 in Germany.
00:14:51.000They've released, I guess, a brag about their crimes, some of their first 54 document minutes, and they say that, oh, we're going to set up an EU, this is how we're going to do it, we're going to call it a trade deal, that's even in the BBC.
00:15:03.000Just type Bilderberg Group in, in one of the first links on On Google Web Search, one of the first links is a group of BBC articles where, again, it's the Bilderberg Group bragging.
00:15:16.000These creatures are now bragging about how they killed Europe, they're trying to kill Britain, and how they're going to kill America.
00:15:23.000How they're going to kill the United States.
00:15:25.000They were up in Canada just a month ago now.
00:15:29.000Seems like a hundred years ago, so much has happened in the last month.
00:15:32.000And we got the same intel out of there again.
00:16:56.000I remember reading National Banking Association documents from what, 108 years ago?
00:17:01.000I remember reading public editorials in the Times of London that if those Americans are allowed to issue their own credit and not be under the European Central Banking System it will spread as a revolution and our empire will be destroyed!
00:17:16.000They've been hating this country for 230 years!
00:17:22.000They've been scared of it and now they've seized it?
00:17:25.000They've seized the high ground in our government, the legislative, the executive, the judicial, and they're busy basically throwing down stumbling blocks off of their parapets against us as we attempt to take the country back.
00:17:38.000And they're busy shouting their propaganda to all the peasants, Oh, don't join the rebels!
00:17:57.000You know who owns and controls this country?
00:17:59.000You can get these official financial numbers.
00:18:02.000British elites, aristocracy, royalty, large German interest, large British interest, large Zionist interest, large European interest, come to this country and they stick coins in it like it's a vending machine and they pull the lever and what they want out of the vending machine pops out.
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00:24:28.000Well, first of all, I'd like to say I'd like to thank you for everything that you do.
00:24:33.000I've been following this whole movement probably now for about six months after 9-11 in Plain Sight was played on major television and I've now seen four of your movies several times over.
00:24:47.000I actually just finished watching Bohemian Grove about half an hour ago and I must say I'm a big fan of what you do.
00:24:54.000In Plain Sight was played on Australian television?
00:24:58.000Yeah, Channel 10 in Australia, probably about four, about five, six months ago.
00:25:05.000Yeah, and since then, like, there's been absolutely nothing, you know, absolutely nothing since then.
00:25:12.000And my first question is, are you aware of any, you know, large, you know, truth movements in Australia?
00:25:20.000There are a lot of people awake to what's happening in Australia.
00:25:22.000You can just do a web search on it and find a lot of like-minded people.
00:25:25.000In a big city like Melbourne, you can probably find quite a few groups.
00:25:28.000Or, if you don't find one, start your own.
00:25:31.000Yeah, well, I'm in the process of doing that myself.
00:25:34.000I mean, everyone I know is aware of what I'm doing at the moment, and it's quite concerning.
00:25:42.000And there's a few things going on which I'm not sure if you're aware of.
00:25:47.000Oh, they're busy taking your rights, they're busy trying to stop the protests, they're trying to get rid of your sovereignty too.
00:25:54.000Yeah, not only that but our involvement in East Timor.
00:25:58.000Now, there's a few things I've found out recently.
00:26:02.000A leaked document from the Defence Force which specifically says that a main point of the The involvement of the Defence was to seek access and to exercise influence over the East Timorese decision-making in the Government.
00:26:19.000Now, that sort of leads on to the copious amounts of gold, nickel, other precious metals, oil and natural gas in the country, which we're taking a hell of a lot of percentages of.
00:26:34.000Yeah, Australia is involved trying to dominate a lot of different areas of your region.
00:28:43.000You know, as for your comment about feds crawling all over something, there are probably two or three feds in there writing up reports on the 1,200 people that attended our 9-11 symposium.
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00:33:58.000Really big news, man indicted in phone jamming case will argue administration approval of election scheme.
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00:35:07.000But Debbie, thank you for coming on with us.
00:35:10.000Hi Alex, thank you very much for having me.
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00:38:51.000So, Debbie, I don't know how people couldn't or wouldn't call you.
00:38:55.000I don't either, and especially right now, you know, it's really very imperative that people start taking control of their life and working their water and...
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00:40:15.000Hi Alex, I just want to let you know I have a quick comment and a question.
00:40:20.000I noticed driving through downtown there's a building with some graffiti on it and one day I realized that the word Infowars.com and Present Planet were spray painted on the building and about a week later they were covered up with paint and all the other graffiti has never been covered so I just thought that was kind of strange.
00:40:38.000And my question is Has anything been on C-SPAN regarding the 9-11 symposium?
00:40:44.000I've been checking and haven't been able to find anything.
00:40:46.000I'm wondering if you know what's going on with that.
00:40:49.000We have received, no exaggeration, hundreds of phone calls at this office, hundreds of emails.
00:40:59.000In fact, it's been so long, two plus weeks since they videotaped it, we're even getting letters now.
00:41:08.000C-SPAN customarily airs it within a week of panel discussion, sometimes within two to three weeks, so they've got another week or so until we know something's going on.
00:41:17.000But that roundtable discussion, that panel discussion with Professor Fetzer and, of course, Bob Bowman, former head of the Star Wars program, and Professor Jones and Webster Tarpley and myself, It was so hard-hitting and so cutting-edge and hardcore that in my gut I thought they'd never air it.
00:41:47.000When I was out of town a few days before the event, Jack Blood and others did get on air and say, you know, you ought to call C-SPAN and get them to cover it.
00:41:55.000People did call C-SPAN, they did cover it.
00:41:57.000They had a three-man team there, two cameras.
00:42:01.000And the C-SPAN crew, by the way, was convinced.
00:42:05.000They love the conference, but where is it?
00:42:08.000You know, bombarding the poor secretaries that field the phone calls, I guess is okay, but I really think the calls should be directed to all live C-SPAN programming.
00:42:19.000You know, after the Senate has a vote and they open the phones up for 30 minutes for comments, boom, hit them.
00:42:24.000When they have Washington Journal, boom, hit them.
00:42:26.000And, you know, call in, And just say, hey, where's the 9-11 Neocon Symposium?
00:42:34.000But by the way, if you're a PrisonPlanet.tv member, for 15 cents a day, you can go to PrisonPlanet.tv, watch it in high bandwidth, low bandwidth, downloaded, three different formats, shot by five different cameras.
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00:43:09.000So, get a PrisonPlanet.tv membership and all of you can see what it looks like may be too hot for C-SPAN to handle.
00:44:37.000But at the same time, I think government, expressways, vacant buildings, especially if it's political messages, that's what original graffiti, or I should say, well, ancient graffiti was about where good hunting spots were, or the name of the tribe, or some celestial happening or alignment, but graffiti 500, 1,000, 2,000 years ago in Rome, and in other areas, was generally political.
00:45:07.000And so, so much of it is beautiful art.
00:45:10.000I see a lot of graffiti, and I go, that's beautiful art.
00:45:14.000I love it on railroad trestles and government bridges.
00:45:17.000Where I really like it is on billboards, government propaganda billboards, anti-gun billboards, anti-family billboards, police state billboards, All the time there's graffiti on them in Austin and I'm not doing it.
00:45:30.000No one I know is doing it, but I'm not going to lie to you.
00:45:34.000The government uses our money to put these messages out to brainwash us and I think it's great that people are climbing up those billboards and spray painting on it.
00:45:45.000We paid for that to begin with, so it's good to have the actual people go up there and spray paint on it.
00:46:49.000We've got an enemy that controls the dominant airwaves that is lying to us about 9-11, lying to us about the open borders, lying to us about a thousand instances.
00:46:59.000And graffiti on a major bridge will be seen by hundreds of thousands of people in a week.
00:47:04.000And if it gets painted over, oh dear me, what happens if you climb back on there and spray paint it again?
00:47:09.000But please don't do anything dangerous, folks.
00:48:40.000Just wanted to let you know a little bit about a limited freedom of speech that happened to me out here in the world.
00:48:48.000I hurt my hand about a couple weeks ago and had to go to an emergency clinic here in the town and pulled up in front of it and it had a glass front to the building.
00:49:03.000And when they started to usher me into the examination room, the male nurse looked out in front of my vehicle that has several anti-U.N.
00:49:12.000stickers as well as the InfoWars sticker on it, and he said, whose car is that?
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00:53:57.000We've gotten confirmed reports of the thing that happened to Kurt all over the country.
00:54:11.000It's a minority of people, but they buy into this Stasi tight mindset of really getting upset at people who have anti-UN stickers, Infowars.com stickers, we have law enforcement manuals, and this has been in the news, it openly say if someone has an anti-UN sticker, go ahead and arrest them, and it tells the police chief, I'm not kidding, we have this posted on the website, mainstream news, police chief support your officers, just go ahead and bring them in, and make sure they're not criminals, because that's a sign of criminality.
00:54:49.000Kurt, I mean, describe word for word what this guy said to you, and what was your injury?
00:54:56.000My injury, I slipped with a wrench and knocked a big chunk, I mean a very large chunk of hide off of my hand nearly down to the bone on the back.
00:55:08.000And I was going there for aid in a tetanus shot.
00:55:13.000And the fellow said, well, said people displaying stuff like that that I consider unpatriotic.
00:55:25.000And I said, well, that's your right and it's my right to express what I want to.
00:59:31.000One of the most awarded and loved directors in the United States.
00:59:36.000He's known for big blockbusters as well as classical avant-garde art films.
00:59:42.000And I got to know Rick, I guess going back about seven years ago almost now, uh... when he was in uh... pre-production of waking life and i was honored to be a part of and then now he's made a scanner darkly which and no exaggeration i spent about an hour and a half This weekend, reading reviews on Sunday night of it, and I read about 30 or 40 of them and found one semi-negative review by E!
01:00:07.000Entertainment, just saying the film's just too much.
01:01:06.000I think the vibe out there's pretty good, which is surprisingly, it's such a non-mainstream kind of Crazy movie, you know, that really challenges a lot of, I don't know, assumptions out there, you know.
01:01:27.000But, yeah, I've got to be pleased that it seems timely, I think, in a lot of ways.
01:01:33.000And that's what people, I think, maybe are responding to.
01:01:37.000I haven't given away much on air or in articles I've written or people who work with me have written about the film, but you did give a little bit away in a Chronicle interview.
01:01:47.000I don't know how far you want to go, but I tell you, this film is extremely timely and the media has been bringing that up to you, how much this mirrors what we see happening today.
01:01:58.000Yeah, I mean, even people, if they don't
01:02:01.000totally understand the movie or, you know, it's a complex movie, but they get the basic message about in this future world, it's set seven years in the future, where, you know, these people are more or less under surveillance all the time, all your calls are, you know, being tapped, all your, you know, actions sort of are monitored, you know, in a population that's pretty, pretty used to it, you know, there's not a lot of
01:02:29.000With the exception of your character, Alex, there's not a lot of resistance we see going on anywhere.
01:02:34.000People adapt pretty easily to this, and I think that's what... it seems like kind of a nightmarish scenario, but it's presented pretty... in a pretty normal fashion, so I think that sort of got people thinking about, oh gosh, we're just sheep being led to this kind of... this conditioning sort of works eventually, you know?
01:02:51.000So, I think people responding to... to that, and, you know, current...
01:02:59.000You know just everything going on right now every couple weeks we find out something new from our You know some secret stuff our government's doing you know whether it's NSA wiretapping or you know just any number of things just constant so I think yeah, it's a real suspicious time right now.
01:03:16.000I think it's a lot like Post, you know, Nixon period where we realize the government's not being straight with us at all.
01:03:24.000And that's when Philip K. Dick wrote this novel in 1977.
01:03:28.000I want to talk about PKD and the critics are saying this is the closest True adaptation from the novel.
01:03:44.000And I want to talk about some of the other facets of this film.
01:03:49.000We'll be right back with Richard Linklater.
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01:07:22.000He's directed blockbusters and critically acclaimed art films as well.
01:07:27.000The first big movie he made was Slacker.
01:07:31.000And he joins us right now to talk about his new film that released in some of the major cities around the country and will be opening up nationwide in the next month or so, A Scanner, Darkly with Keanu Reeves, Winona Ryder, Robert Downey Jr., Woody Harrelson, and many, many others.
01:07:45.000Rick, jumping straight into it, when did you first get attracted to Philip K. Dick and then run through it, kind of in a thumbnail sketch, how this project developed, how you wrote the script, and the production and the post-production?
01:08:29.000You know, kind of wickedly funny, darkly humorous.
01:08:32.000So, in this movie, I really wanted to bring out the humor of his writing through these characters, because that is the story, really, the humor here.
01:08:42.000So, I think it was after Waking Life, Tommy Pallotta and I were talking about... Philip K. Dick sort of permeated our thinking on that movie, so I was thinking, you know, that maybe if Philip K. Dick
01:08:56.000Novel or story would work for this animation and I started thinking about Scanner Darkly and that it would work really well and Because it puts your kind of it's a disorienting Story the characters having a the main character counter reads characters having a split brain phenomenon and he's addicted to this Drug, there's a drug epidemic in the future.
01:09:20.000So the animation sort of puts the viewers mind in that and In a similar state of, you know, surreal, where you don't really know what's real and what's not.
01:09:32.000And he's also a member of the secret police.
01:09:34.000There's this giant Halliburton-type corporation, Newpath, hanging over the entire atmosphere.
01:09:42.000Yeah, it's a future world where the government sort of has just privatized everything.
01:09:46.000So they've more or less outsourced this war on drugs to a big corporation, a quasi-governmental corporation that's outside the boundaries of accountability.
01:09:55.000So, you know, they've got their own private contracts with the government and everything.
01:09:59.000Philip K. Dick kind of saw the future before it was even called the drug war.
01:10:04.000He saw the extremes of where that was going.
01:10:10.000And as I wrote this in late 01, this whole movie came up.
01:10:15.000I think it seemed even more urgent to me in a post 9-11 environment.
01:10:21.000I was reading This book saying, well, this is really about right now.
01:10:24.000It's easy to imagine the future where the endless unwinnable drug war would sort of meld in with the endless unwinnable war on terror and how governments and corporations could profiteer and the effects of that on the individual, on the citizens, the numbing effects So it's this huge cautionary tale on a lot of levels.
01:10:49.000Is that what attracted this huge A-list of top actors?
01:11:27.000And I think they just kind of dug into the material, and thank God they did, because I don't think I would have got this movie made otherwise without this list of, you know, without this wonderful cast, but they're all perfectly cast, right?
01:11:49.000He's this one character who's just totally off the hook, you know, and Robert's probably one of the only people who could play that part.
01:11:54.000But he's like so many scumbags I've known in real life.
01:11:58.000He's like every roommate you had in your 20s who just kind of drifted into your house.
01:12:03.000You know, so I knew all these guys, you know, so.
01:12:06.000But I think they're all wonderful, and we had a great time making it, but a lot was going on at the time we were making it, so we would sit around and talk politics, talk, you know, the deeper meaning of everything, and we had a great time making it.
01:12:22.000Everybody worked for scale, that kind of production.
01:12:25.000That's the only way you get anything real, you know, made.
01:12:30.000Well, I think that's a key point here.
01:12:32.000You know, we hear the term avant-garde or something totally new before it's time thrown around a lot, but this is avant-garde.
01:12:38.000I mean, this is a rebel picture in my opinion.
01:12:41.000It was made against all the odds, some trials and tribulations, which I think in a way makes it even sweeter, but I want to get your take on that.
01:13:40.000That's why it took a long time when you're doing something that kind of fundamentally, technically hasn't been done before.
01:13:46.000But it definitely felt like we got away with something.
01:13:49.000Like I said earlier, I owe it to the cast and everybody who came in and worked for well below, you know, for nothing just to kind of come aboard this project.
01:13:59.000But that's, you know, It's how anything in this world, you know, once you take away profit motive and everyone wants to do something just to express themselves and make something happen, you know, in opposition to what the bigger world even wants to be out there.
01:14:14.000So we definitely felt like we got away with something.
01:14:18.000Just to even be able to put this out there in the world felt like a triumph of some kind.
01:14:24.000But, you know, just like within the movie itself, there's this kind of very subtle resistance going on.
01:14:33.000You know, in a way, you feel that way yourself.
01:14:35.000You're sort of commenting on the current climate and what's going on in the world.
01:14:39.000In your own way, you know, you have to fight against it, you know.
01:14:44.000Well, and then there's the atmosphere of the set.
01:14:46.000I mean, you've got all these people walking around, all these famous people, and they're reading 1984 and passing along Alex Jones 9-11 videos.
01:16:39.000And now Texas, in the legislature, they've reintroduced the bill to put a transponder in all inspection stickers to turn all the major roads into toll roads.
01:16:47.000Yeah, I mean, this is crazy, and it's funny how, like, Philip K. Dick could imagine some of this stuff 30 years ago, and he was a crackpot.
01:16:55.000He was a paranoid conspiracy person from the margins to be laughed at.
01:17:00.000That, plus a generation, equals reality.
01:17:29.000You know, you just look at I mean, everything in our culture, you know?
01:17:34.000Well, shifting gears to what's happening right now, your take on the war on terror, the Iraq, Iran, the NSA surveillance, Bush saying he's above the law, Rick?
01:17:45.000Oh, it's the most extreme I've ever seen in my lifetime.
01:17:48.000I think, well, ever, obviously, in American history, this kind of executive branch grab of power is so unprecedented, you know?
01:17:59.000I mean, it's frightening to such an extreme that it... I don't know.
01:18:05.000I mean, I see a certain schizophrenia in our population right now.
01:18:10.000It's so extreme that people don't even know what to do.
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01:23:54.000I mean, everybody sort of likes a popcorn movie, but if it's... by the time you get to the parking lot, if it's already out of your brain, that should tell you something.
01:24:03.000I don't know if it is out of your brain.
01:26:01.000And, of course, I don't end up in too good a shape in the film either, do I, Rick?
01:26:07.000No, the little van pulls up and you get carted off.
01:26:11.000Well, I'll tell you, there are several big twists at the end of the film.
01:26:15.000Everybody needs to get out there and see it.
01:26:19.000Do you think that the film is going to be seen as a political statement by the media, by the critics?
01:26:27.000Yeah, I mean, well, I think on one level it's seen as a story and, you know, people laugh and are entertained, but I think on another level they really can't help but be seen as a social critique.
01:26:44.000The only reason I wanted to go was to find out what the actors thought of it when they finally saw it.
01:26:50.000to the LA premiere but I couldn't make it but the only reason I wanted to go though was to find out what the actors thought of it when they finally saw it what was what was their view on it oh they don't really love it and they've all seen it several times now so yeah I mean they keep keep finding more stuff in So they're all very, you know, very much behind the film, which is flattering.
01:27:10.000You know, some actors don't really get behind the film.
01:27:14.000Well, that's really what I found talking to people all over Austin who've seen it, is that everybody is drawn to something different in the film because it has so many layers.
01:28:04.000Well, yeah, I mean, that was our goal, to be very faithful to his story, not just to grab a few of his great ideas and make an action thriller about it, which you can do and has been done.
01:28:15.000I really wanted to tell this story from A to Z, you know, it's adapted from the 70s to now, set in the near future, but it is that story, Scanner Darkly, so we were striving for a Authentic, you know, adaptation.
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01:32:11.000In fact, Rick Linkletter in the Chronicle here locally in Austin Had a quote about that.
01:32:20.000Kay Dick imagined with this drug war and the blending of that and this war on terror are two twin unwinnable wars that we've got now.
01:32:29.000You know, they're just going to go on indefinitely and Dick saw pretty clearly how that wasn't going to help any citizens and instead was just another form of control under the guise of helping people.
01:32:40.000And he's got another quote in here about how this drug basically turns people into slaves to the state or zombies.
01:32:48.000That's really the point that Dick makes in the book is about how his friends were basically just like children having fun playing in the street who got hurt.
01:32:56.000The bigger the drug war gets, the more people we have in prison, the more drugs are on our streets, the bigger the police state expands.
01:33:04.000And really these are people who are just addicted to substances.
01:33:08.000You talked in another interview about drugs.
01:33:11.000Somebody who you'll know for years and you don't even know is on drugs and suddenly they die.
01:33:15.000Oh yeah, he was on heroin, he was on cocaine.
01:33:18.000Can you speak to the sense of loss and really in a way this is kind of an autobiography of Philip K. Dick and things that happened to his friends.
01:33:26.000Yeah, it was very, very personal to him.
01:33:29.000Philip K. Dick had a problem with methamphetamines.
01:33:32.000Primarily prescription drugs, you know, and this is kind of an honor of all the people he lost along the way.
01:33:44.000The book and the movie end with a memoriam with a list of people, you know, casualties.
01:34:21.000And I think everyone working on this film, we all had our own list.
01:34:24.000You know, we honored Philip K. Dick's list.
01:34:27.000But I think everybody, you get older, you have your own list of people You know, you've lost friends who, and often they're the most vibrant, alive, intelligent people you'll ever meet, too.
01:34:36.000It's very sad that they're responding in a way that is not healthy for them personally.
01:34:45.000I've personally lost several old friends this year, or in the last year, from drugs.
01:34:50.000Yeah, and it's not just drugs, it's alcohol, it's other behaviors that are, you know, that are risky.
01:35:00.000I mean, there's all kinds of things we're all doing all the time that are dangerous.
01:35:10.000You know, he and Stephen, their company, Section 8, within Warner Brothers, they optioned the book for me five years ago or whatever and did me a big solid there, but they're very busy with what they're doing, George and Stephen, so I haven't really talked to them too much.
01:35:24.000They saw the film, but I think they're laying back.
01:35:28.000Their profile, I think they didn't want to overshadow or be too up front and center about it all.
01:35:33.000But, you know, they definitely had a crucial time.
01:36:24.000Is he in over his head as President of the whole United States?
01:36:27.000It's sort of the worst, you know, your worst combination of someone not prepared with their impulses being almost wrong every time.
01:36:36.000It's painful to watch as a Texan, especially.
01:36:40.000I want to play the trailer and then just for a few minutes talk about another big movie you've got coming out this year, and that's Fast Food Nation.
01:38:47.000A Scanner Darkly in theaters in select cities around the country.
01:38:51.000Rick, I know you're not involved in a lot of the rollout of it.
01:38:55.000You're just involved in making, producing, and promoting it, but this is a platform release, I guess, where they use the select release to then get all the media attention and then expand from there, but how long until this is in every major city in the U.S.?
01:39:30.000Yeah, it really depends on, especially if it's the kind of film people, you need word of mouth or people to talk about seriously like that, so...
01:39:40.000Rick, I want to briefly talk about Fast Food Nation and the response that both these films got at the Cannes Film Festival.
01:39:47.000But before we do that and close up this interview, I know you're a busy man.
01:39:50.000Any other key points you want to make about the film?
01:39:56.000You know, I mean, I think the films, it's both very funny and tragic.
01:40:00.000You know, we talk about the tragic elements, but there's, you know, there's a lot going on in it.
01:40:03.000So, I mean, that was, to me, the biggest challenge was to make it both a full-blown comedy and a full-blown tragedy.
01:40:10.000You know, that those two aspects of life are often very close together, you know, but you don't really see it in films a lot because it's, you know, just seems like too complex or, you know, most stories that are Made for consumption, can't really encompass those two things.
01:40:25.000But it's also got a big whodunit mystery element, too.
01:40:28.000Because you've got the scramble suit, can you describe that for us?
01:40:34.000Yeah, I mean that's sort of the central metaphor of the movie, I think.
01:40:37.000As an undercover narcotics agent, he's wearing this kind of fin-like membrane shroud that's projecting images of other people, you know, millions of other people at all times.
01:40:49.000He's sort of this everyman, hidden underneath that.
01:40:52.000So it's a lot about identity and role-playing.
01:40:54.000At that point, he's an undercover narcotics officer in this future drug war where it's gotten so bad that they need to hide their identities.
01:41:03.000But it's kind of, I mean, it's absurdist, kind of Philip K. Dick notion, you know, and it probably would look pretty goofy live action, but within our kind of graphic novel come to life style, it's sort of, It sort of works as a whole, I think.
01:41:21.000Well, in the film, you also have to have it because of all the face scanning and biometric cameras everywhere.
01:41:26.000And did you know, Rick, I think during the production we talked about this, but the military is now coming out with chameleon suits for tanks and soldiers, and they really have something similar to the scramble suit now.
01:41:57.000And even though I think we're technically called a science fiction movie, our whole take is, well, we're living in science fiction right now.
01:42:04.000If you could go back a generation, I mean, right now is science fiction.
01:42:08.000Well, we know the critics like the film.
01:42:10.000Again, I found one negative out of about 30-40 I read just Sunday night.
01:42:51.000They're more under surveillance than we are.
01:42:53.000You know, this is just how power acts in relation to its citizens.
01:42:59.000And how, you know, corporations grab control and, you know, how people are treated like data or consumers and, you know, so America, you know, we do not have the sole possession of that.
01:43:09.000Well, Rick, I mean, I criticize my government, but it's not my country.
01:43:13.000I do what I do because I love the United States.
01:43:15.000You're a fellow Texan and, you know, Bush isn't even really a real Texan and so, I mean, I think that's the important point here.
01:43:22.000We're exposing the bad things in this country because we love it.
01:43:27.000I mean, do you agree with that statement?
01:43:28.000I mean, is that where you're coming from?
01:43:30.000Is that we're trying to show the bad so we can get rid of it?
01:43:53.000And you really, really and truly need to see it.
01:43:59.000And again, it's got so many facets to it, I can't even really begin to describe how many layers it's got to it.
01:44:10.000But when you When you work on a film, and I did consult a little bit on it too, and then when you actually see it, you know, in the theaters, you see people liking it, because I was trying to ask myself, you know, I love this film, but is that just because I'm in it, and it's police state, and it kind of covers the New World Order?
01:44:23.000Am I polluting, you know, my own view of it because I like it?
01:44:28.000And then to just see nothing but really good reviews out there, that has been, that has been extremely, extremely exciting.
01:45:26.000You thought I was getting censored or cut off just when I was talking about my country.
01:45:30.000Yeah, well, who knows what happened, but sorry to lose you.
01:45:34.000The phone I was at, you have the place I'm saying, died or something.
01:45:37.000No, that's actually what I first guessed on air.
01:45:39.000As I said, it was probably a cordless and died.
01:45:42.000And then I said, we've had censorship before, but I doubt that that's what this was.
01:45:49.000Well, listen, in closing, Rick, tell us a little bit about, well, I mean, finish up with the question I had.
01:45:55.000Oh yeah, I mean, what we were talking... I was over at Ken's, you know, like I said, defending my country, and like, hey, as an American I can make this social critique, but don't doubt for a second, you know.
01:46:07.000You know, I love my country, wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
01:46:10.000I think they were hoping I would be a little more anti-American, in that sense, a little more polemical.
01:46:33.000You know, that's what the Founding Fathers certainly wanted.
01:46:36.000A kind of a very robust dialogue where everyone's a little unsatisfied.
01:46:42.000What we have now is a small group who are very satisfied.
01:46:47.000I mean, they've got way too much, you know, that they've taken total control.
01:46:50.000Do you think their hubris will bring them down?
01:46:53.000Yeah, I mean, we're in the process of that happening, but I mean, my darker thinking would say, well, but if you own all of the means of control, if you, once you own the media and the outlets and you can kind of control the debate to such a large degree, I wonder if the dissenting voices can even be heard.
01:47:11.000You know, when you, when you fiddle with the machinery of elections, to that degree, then that's scary too.
01:47:17.000And that's not just a paranoid crackpot thinking.
01:47:21.000It's pretty well documented, all the methods of now fixing elections.
01:47:26.000So once you've got that down, then it really is, It's the end of something.
01:47:31.000Well, you're very well politically informed.
01:47:33.000I mean, Rick is really up to speed on so many issues.
01:47:36.000One of the few people I've talked to in Hollywood who really knows what he's talking about, and I'm sure you're aware of.
01:47:40.000They're now indicting people who were hired by the Republicans to jam phone lines during elections so Democrats couldn't get the vote out.
01:47:49.000Yeah, well, if you treat government and power like any Like a sport, which is kind of what they are, by any means necessary.
01:47:59.000Once you have no moral base and no faith in the Constitution or anything like that, once you throw that out the window, then yeah, you can win by any means necessary.
01:48:09.000You know, but it's scary because both sides aren't playing that way.
01:48:12.000I mean, it's a new paradigm, that's for sure.
01:48:26.000I mean, at least he cared about, like, air quality, drinking water, things like that.
01:48:31.000Well, Rick, in closing, I want to thank you for making this film.
01:48:34.000I want to thank you for including me in it.
01:48:35.000I want to thank you for making a true work of art.
01:48:37.000And I want to thank you for your friendship.
01:48:39.000It is just wonderful knowing you and knowing that there are great people like you out there that are fighting for this country, Rick.
01:48:45.000Well thanks Alex and thanks for being in my movie.
01:48:48.000It's a great scene you're in and your spirit was with us always and I enjoy giving out your work to people.
01:48:56.000I told you Bruce Willis, I gave him your latest DVD and he said it put him in such a head space and he will be quiet on issues of National politics.
01:49:10.000In fact, didn't you say that, quote, he emailed you back and said it changed his kind of political paradigm?
01:49:37.000There goes Rick Linklater, and I know so much behind-the-scenes stuff, I wasn't going to bring that up.
01:49:41.000There's a lot of other stuff too, but did you hear that?
01:49:45.000It was more to it too, but oh man, that is just incredible.
01:49:48.000Well, we'll put a story out on this, you can believe it.
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01:53:28.000I think what is it he's given out like he brought it all up I wasn't gonna bring it up I did not ask him to say any of that in fact I never push these guys he's given out like 300 copies or something like that of martial law I mean everybody in Hollywood that he knows he has given copies of martial law to them
01:53:51.000and uh... but there is a point about the gave it to bruce willis hand-delivered to members will see the email back-and-forth emailing back in austin because you know but willis is infested nation and uh... said the man is totally changes my paradigm is uh... you know this film i'm gonna watch you know who i stand up for now and we know what i said you know willis has been supporting the neocons and i would never have thought rick would've brought that up but rick did so we're going to put it in an article
01:54:19.000And Bush is worse than Nixon, and the police state, and the phony drug war.
01:54:24.000That was another Hollywood person going public, speaking out.
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01:57:26.000All right, we'll be right back, but Terror Storm is now available.
01:57:58.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:08.000We're gonna try to get Clara Halperin on near the end of the show for an update.
01:58:11.000The police all arrived on our property in Piscataway, New Jersey.
01:58:14.000The 75 acres they're stealing, not even paying, or just taking.
01:58:18.000Local officials involved in the development of the land and the stealing.
01:58:23.000And riding shotgun with us for the entire hour will be Jack McClam who knows well about government land grabs and how people are under attack nationwide.
01:58:31.000Jack McClam for 24, 25 years has been fighting the New World Order.
01:58:35.000He is a vet from the Vietnam era, also the most highly decorated police officer in Phoenix, Arizona.
01:58:41.000History cop of the year, I believe twice.
01:58:43.000And he's here to talk about just all of the big issues we face right now.
01:58:46.000The American Union, the open borders, the gun control, the things that are happening.
01:58:52.000Jack McClam, it's good to have you on, my friend.
01:58:54.000The main reason you're here, though, I almost forgot, is because you are now on the GCN radio network, and we're so honored to have you Monday through Friday, my friend.
01:59:04.000Well, I'm excited about it, too, Brother Alex.
01:59:11.000We're just putting in about 14-16 hours a day here, and I know you put in long, long hours, because we're pulling out all stops to educate as many people as fast as we can, and of course GCN does an excellent job, and we're so pleased, our two police and military associations here are very pleased that I'm on there, so thank you.
01:59:34.000In fact, tell everybody about the Showtime and your website.
01:59:38.000Okay, the website is Police and Military Against the New World Order, but rather than put all that down in your search engine there, just put down JackMcLamb.com, and you'll come up with our organization, Police and Military Against the New World Order.
01:59:57.000And my program on GCN is from 5 to 6 Pacific Time, at 7 to 8 your time there, Alex, each day, five days a week.
02:00:07.000And it's called the Officer Jack McClam program, and we're just pleased and proud to be on GCN.
02:00:27.000For that time slot on our program where you cover police and military affairs from position of support of the troops and of the police, but truly supporting them, exposing how they're being manipulated and controlled.
02:00:39.000I think it's a great show for stations to pick up.
02:00:44.000Yes, we've been, we're all volunteers here and we've been volunteering now to try to educate our police and soldiers for almost 25 years now.
02:00:54.000God has blessed us by being able to reach a lot of police officers and soldiers, our peers, in uniform and tell them about what's really going on in the nation and so GCN certainly allowed us to do that job much more rapidly and that's our goal is to reach the hearts and minds of
02:01:15.000Our police and soldiers, and get them back under the sovereign people serving and protecting the sovereign people, Alex, instead of how we're trained today to serve and protect the system from the people.
02:01:28.000Well, that's what's happened, and police think that by taking our rights they protect us.
02:01:39.000I just received a letter from a sergeant in California A week ago, and I put it in my pocket, a letter, and didn't open it until yesterday, and I was quite surprised that the one-page letter here from him just shows you, Alex, what our police and soldiers are doing.
02:01:57.000He's, I don't know if we have time to share this.
02:02:00.000Yeah, let's read the letter when we get back from this quick break, Jack.
02:02:02.000Okay, yeah, I think it's exciting for the people to hear what our police and soldiers are capable of to serve and protect the American people.
02:02:11.000And at the same time, I want to get into the American Union.
02:02:13.000I mean, has it pleased you like it's pleased me, buoyed your heart to see the American Union now being mainstream news?
02:02:24.000It's exciting because I know that the Bush crime family wanted to keep it a secret and did everything he could to keep it a secret, but it's beginning to get out, praise God.
02:02:34.000Well, that's made our credibility shoot To the moon, basically.
02:02:38.000Because we've been talking about this forever.
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02:06:11.000I mean, last hour we had a major Hollywood director Well, I'm talking about giving out 9-11 inside job videos and trying to wake up the neocongress Willis who's starting to wake up.
02:06:21.000I didn't even ask the director to talk about that.
02:06:24.000There's so many other prominent people.
02:06:26.000The former Marine Corps historian comes on a week ago and says the 9-11 story's a fraud and the dog doesn't hunt.
02:07:09.000He's only been on for a few weeks and the show's really building and we are so honored to have him here with us.
02:07:13.000Jack, before we get into the American Union and what police and military are doing to fight the New World Order, your organization, let's get into That letter from that sergeant you got from California, and then I want to shift gears and talk about people waking up at 9-11.
02:07:33.000What do you think about how, I mean, we are bringing in a mighty harvest.
02:07:37.000The tyranny, as we always said, as it got worse, as it came into fruition, would be so obvious that people would be forced to wake up, and I'm really starting to see that happen, Jack, with the grace of God.
02:07:49.000Likewise, here at our two police and military associations, Our contact is picking up and on our email, my goodness gracious, so much email are coming in we can't even, I've got 38,000 emails I haven't answered right now.
02:08:04.000So people are waking up brother and wonderful police and soldiers are waking up and helping us now.
02:08:11.000They've become our agents inside for God and country to help educate more police and soldiers.
02:08:17.000And by the way, that's not your opinion.
02:08:19.000All over the place they're having leaks, whistleblowers.
02:08:22.000It's bringing the New World Order to a grinding halt right now.
02:08:27.000We've got a great chance of winning this.
02:08:30.000And as long as we still have the First Amendment, you don't have to go to that third box the Founders gave us, the cartridge box.
02:08:40.000So we're just praying every day that we can win this non-violently as more and more people, both inside government and outside government, are waking up.
02:08:51.000And this sergeant is basically telling us that, Alex, I'd like to share this, a very small letter.
02:09:34.000Just thought I'd let you know that myself and several other law enforcement officers are members of a new militia which we formed here in blank California.
02:09:44.000I won't give you out the area in California because he's trying to protect his identity.
02:09:49.000Just like you did some years ago, we've been using our police and military training to train our fellow Californians in essential tactics and techniques to secure our homes, Our neighborhoods and state from those who would attack from without or enslave our families under a totalitarian system from within.
02:10:09.000As you know, this training is legal now, but it will not be in the future.
02:10:16.000You can go out and shoot your guns and crawl through the woods and train in military tactics all you want to, but one day it'll be illegal.
02:10:24.000It goes on to say here, there are some very good books available now on winning against superior forces.
02:10:30.000Which will not be available in the future either.
02:10:55.000It is long overdue that Americans start preparing and practicing for very difficult times and very dangerous times in the near future.
02:11:04.000No one here wants to see a violent situation, but we'd be a fool not to get ready in case it comes, and it looks very likely that it may come.
02:11:14.000Many of our law officers know the truth about 9-11, the truth about the wars of aggression against the Arabs by our nation's enemies to capture their land, oil, and to get World War III going.
02:11:26.000Our knowledge level is going up each day as we listen to your radio program and others on alternative radio.
02:11:33.000Keep up the work to awaken our brothers in law enforcement.
02:11:37.000We will have many more patriots inside the system as we educate our peers.
02:11:43.000As your website says, treason and tyranny cannot be enforced on the American people unless our soldiers and law officers enforce it.
02:11:51.000And we are working overtime to awaken more of our fellow officers by using your Constitutional Police and Soldier publication.
02:12:02.000Keep going with your educational materials so we can pass them on.
02:12:07.000And keep up the radio show so we can feed more fellow officers the facts of what's coming our way, which we officers will play a large part in, for good or bad.
02:12:18.000Sergeant Morris, Not my real name, you understand.
02:12:24.000But isn't that amazing, Alex, that he's in California, and I have a guy hand me an envelope down in Cooski, Idaho, and it's from Sergeant Morris over there.
02:13:29.000And they came because he gave the share of my materials, and some of your materials, and a bunch of materials.
02:13:35.000The Miracle of America, the founding documents, the citizen rule book we mail out to everybody.
02:13:41.000They call them subversive, they call them all sorts of names, and this isn't the first time.
02:13:46.000I mean, we have a lot of these cases that are confirmed, like Kelly Rushing, there in Lyon County, Kentucky, was arrested for giving a state trooper a Ron Paul speech in the floor of the House.
02:13:58.000I mean, that's how So contrast good officers to people that could go into a gun manufacturer's home and not arrest him and just very upset about a constitutional material.
02:14:11.000Well brother, sadly, you know, we're not aware, we think that, take you back to East Germany just a minute, when the East German police and military were shooting You know, children, men and women, as they were trying to climb over the wall, we were told that these were the dregs of society, these were the most evil people that were doing these, manning these machine guns, but in essence, it was not.
02:14:39.000It was the most patriotic police and soldiers they had that had been brainwashed that it was for the good of society that these people be killed that were domestic terrorists or whatever they named them back then.
02:14:52.000And, of course, The sad thing is, when I was an academy instructor in the sixth largest city in the United States, I saw the brainwashing going on of our police officers to tell them that they would be asked to do things one day they wouldn't want to do, they would be asked to to do things to save the country that they all love.
02:15:16.000And the patriotism is always pushed on these soldiers and police officers.
02:15:21.000If you're patriotic, you'll do what you're told.
02:15:44.000People that talk about the Constitution, a land rights activist as terrorist, and then we talked to a man earlier in the first hour who had basically whopped part of his hand off, went into an emergency clinic, he had InfoWars and anti-U.N.
02:16:05.000But I'll tell you, brother, the line is being drawn in the sand.
02:16:08.000The enemies of God and liberty that run this country In much of the world, these international criminals, they're scared to death because the people are waking up and they don't want that.
02:16:20.000I mean, they've got a ways to go yet to put it under martial law.
02:16:47.000Well, yes, I saw the training in the police academies, the giant police academy there in Phoenix, Arizona, which was the regional police academy.
02:16:58.000As these police officers were told, they're no longer citizens, they're an entity of government.
02:17:03.000They're raised above the citizens to better supervise the citizens for their own good.
02:17:08.000And the brainwashing is just incredible as they prepare these officers, and of course it's going on with soldiers too, to do what they're told for the good of the country.
02:17:19.000If they love this nation, they will do what they're told without any question.
02:17:24.000But the Founding Fathers said the exact opposite.
02:17:30.000I want to talk about the American Union and how long you've been researching that and working on that and what this new national news, you know, admitting it, what effect that's had on police and military and your correspondence.
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02:22:28.000Jack, I mean, what was it like when suddenly Lou Dobbs, and now even Glenn Beck, and now all these national publications are admitting they're reading the documents that unelected boards are already merging us into an American Union, and then to see the EU failing in Europe and its expansion, to see the American Union south of Mexico failing, but here they just move forward, but at least they tried to keep it secret.
02:22:48.000As you said, it is now breaking, and they are crumbling.
02:22:54.000Well, Alex, what's going on, we see here at our two police military associations is that there are people on the hard left, the Marxist, Trotskyites, and Communists here in this country, who have been listening to this diatribe that there's going to be a chicken in every pot when we have this Marxist world government, and there'll be freedom and everything for everybody.
02:23:18.000And all of a sudden, their own oxen are beginning to get gored in this country here, And they're beginning to look at it more carefully, and a lot of them are coming out and saying, wait a minute now, I don't think I'm going to be one of these elite.
02:23:33.000It looks like I'm going to be on the bottom level, no middle class.
02:23:37.000And they're beginning to speak out about these things as never before, and this is great to see the left and the right, you know, of course these are all just made up things, but But to see all the people beginning to look at this in reality and say, wait a minute, national sovereignty gone for America?
02:23:56.000We're going to be like a European Union here in this American Union?
02:24:00.000And they're beginning to say, wait a minute, I've got kids and grandkids here that I'm not sure that I want to see them grow up in this kind of a system.
02:24:43.000I agree and I've analyzed this, I've looked at this, I've spent many hours sitting in a chair in my living room just focusing and thinking as a layman investigator really trying to get the answers with the data I have.
02:24:56.000And even if the globalists carry out an even bigger terror attack, which they'll probably be forced to do, I think that's going to blow up in their face, pun intended.
02:25:02.000I mean, every angle I look at, every line of reasoning I study, I see that the globalists are losing power, the people are gaining power.
02:25:11.000The problem is they've got the high ground still in the media, in the government, in the military, and so they may be able to go ahead and try to maintain control, but I think as they are forced to flex their muscles and exert force, In the end, that ensures they lose.
02:25:27.000I certainly do, and it's right on target.
02:25:30.000And you notice that we here at our police and military association believe that the Bush crime family and his overlords would do another terrorist attack here in the United States before now, but what we noticed is All over the world, they're kind of scared, I think, to blow up something again here because the 9-11 truth is getting out there to so many people.
02:25:55.000But they're blowing up things around the world to keep us reminded of this Al-Qaeda out there, Al-Qaeda.
02:26:02.000Notice that the poor people in India just got blown up again this morning, I guess.
02:26:09.000And so they keep setting off these bombs all over the world to keep the fear factor going in the nations that were not supporting them, really supporting them to gain more support for their wars of taking over all these nations in the Middle East and putting in these puppet governments.
02:26:27.000Well, speaking of L.A., when I was out there, there was some L.A.P.D.
02:26:30.000there at the hotel, some plainclothes guys, also some of Sheen and some other people's bodyguards were there who were off to the L.A.P.D.
02:26:52.000Because I'll tell you what, police and military are the enforcers.
02:26:57.000And if the police and military will not enforce tyranny on the American people, and if they see things happening under the table, like these bombings and all, and come forward, the New World Order has a big problem, and they know that.
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02:30:49.000It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.
02:30:53.000Your calls are coming up for Jack McClam, a great American patriot.
02:31:12.000Before we go back to Jack, I want everybody to know that my new film, Terror Storm, is out.
02:31:20.000I put more work into this film than I put into any other documentary we've made.
02:31:24.000It's got Ray McGovern, former high-level CIA analyst, getting into the 9-11 and the phony war.
02:31:28.000It's got Professor Stephen Jones getting into the thermite with an interview we did with him, a sit-down interview.
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02:31:40.000At the Department of Labor, it's got interviews with Michael Meacher, Blair Cabinet Member, former Cabinet Member, Member of Parliament, currently exposing 9-11 as an inside job, MI5 agents, David Shaler and Andy Michon talking about 7-7 being an inside job and 9-11.
02:31:56.000We go to London, we go to Crawford, Texas, and show you the neocons.
02:31:59.000The film starts with a history of government-sponsored terror, Operation Gladio, the USS Liberty, Hitler and the Reichstag, and how he attacked his own operation there outside Glywoods to attack Poland.
02:34:34.000We have all these other activists, all these other truth tellers, all these other patriots on this show, day in, day out, and support their operations.
02:34:41.000We, I see myself as, this operation is like an aircraft carrier.
02:34:45.000And we're out here trying to get the best and brightest on board on this broadcast, on the websites, to continually launch sorties at the enemy.
02:34:52.000To empower our fleets that are out there.
02:34:56.000And we're like huge clusters of armadas out there attacking the New World Order mainland.
02:35:32.000We need you to spread the word and expose these killers.
02:35:35.000Jack McClam, I mean, we can talk all day.
02:35:37.000How important is it for the actual listeners to take action and become activists, truth-tellers, fighters in their area?
02:35:45.000Well, brother, you know, it just isn't going to happen without people doing that.
02:35:51.000We've been telling people to get a piece of paper and put GCN and how people can get on GCN
02:35:59.000Live.com and cut them up and hand them out to neighbors and relatives and friends and just get your tapes out, get our newsletter out and anything possible every single day make it a goal to touch one person with truth and information and if people listening would do that make it a point every day to reach somebody, then the enemy can't win, brother.
02:36:27.000As thousands and thousands a minute wake up around this country, and there's millions a month waking up, it's just got the enemy on the run.
02:36:37.000Well, that's something that we get so busy in my small office, we haven't done.
02:36:40.000We get sent great flyers, people design, we post them, and they get put in the archives.
02:36:44.000We need to put a link on GCNlive.com with printable flyers for people, make it easy.
02:37:10.000The next Sunday, he's out in the parking lot of other churches in Tempe, Mesa, Scottsdale, Phoenix, putting Flyers on the windshield of all the cars in the church parking lots.
02:37:23.000And then the next week he goes to church and the next week he goes out into the parking lots.
02:37:27.000Everybody can do this, but they need the flyers.
02:37:31.000And so it would be wonderful if GCN could put out some downloadable flyers.
02:37:36.000That people could just take out and hand out if they're standing in a grocery line at a store, turn around and hand them out to people in front of you and back of you?
02:37:45.000We've made quite a few others and made them over the years.
02:37:48.000We never put them in a section, but we'll put it in an activist or flyer section.
02:37:53.000And listeners, if you want to design flyers for GCN or PrisonPlanet.com or InfoWars.com, email those to Ryan at InfoWars.com and we will post those in the flyer section.
02:38:05.000Wonderful, because everybody can do something every day to touch people.
02:38:09.000Well, you know, I run into so many people over the years who say, you can't fight City Hall, you can't get involved, you can't affect change, and, you know, I'm just going to sit here in the dirt and die.
02:38:18.000They don't understand that those of us that have fought know the experience of failure, of success, of drawing a blank.
02:38:25.000Different things happen every time, but if you just keep taking action, you're going to gain ground.
02:38:45.000Well, you know, the Holy Scriptures too tells us that we're supposed to put feet to our prayers.
02:38:50.000I know people are praying every day and that's wonderful that we win this thing, but God Tells us in Psalms 94-16 that we have to rise up against the evildoers.
02:39:01.000We have to stand up against the workers of iniquity, Alex.
02:39:04.000So even the Bible, God is telling us to get out of our derrieres.
02:39:12.000Well, over and over again in the Bible, I just randomly open it up every day, and constantly I see things like, who will stand up against the wicked men for me?
02:39:37.000Not emails every day from the NSA, but emails from government every day.
02:39:40.000But here's one, I'm not going to give too much out, but it says, I know that this email is supposed to be media only, but I couldn't find any other email address on the site.
02:39:53.000Serving a long A year-long tour in Iraq for the second time in four years.
02:39:58.000The first time I was here I found the website and read it every day that I could get an internet connection.
02:40:04.000I spent a better part of that year spreading the word and soon my entire platoon and half the company was buzzing about the site.
02:40:10.000We ordered your movies and then we had discussions for hours breaking them out of the mold the army created and teaching them to think for themselves.
02:40:20.000The point of this email is to thank you for what you do and to see if you possibly have any deals for us over here.
02:40:29.000We thought of it as a freeloader, but we don't have all that much money, but I still want to broaden the horizon of this new band of soldiers that I am deployed with this time.
02:40:38.000My soldiers, many soldiers ask of me, but I cannot find a better way of sitting them down in front of your videos and then discussing them.
02:40:58.000And I know so many Marines that come back, and this goes back years, and they tell me, people I know personally in high school and college who went off to be in the military, they come back and they go, Alex, you know, I've been in the Marines for 10 years, and you know, I'm an officer, and I showed them one of your videos, one of the milder ones, America's War by Design, and you know, they basically demoted me and did all these bad things to me.
02:41:17.000I mean, what's wrong with our videos, Jack?
02:41:20.000Well, you know, the military and law enforcement's run by the New World Order right now, and These guys have to keep their head down a little bit and pamphleteer without being caught and put things on bulletin boards and, you know, flyers on bulletin boards and use gloves because they'll take your fingerprints off the flyers, guys and gals out there.
02:41:44.000We've had a major come into the boot camp Marine Boot Camp and hold up an Operation Vampire Killer 2000 waving it around and says, have any of you guys ever read this?
02:41:59.000And two guys jumped up and says, yes sir!
02:42:02.000And they were let out and the third guy that kept his head down wrote to us and told us those two guys never came back to boot camp.
02:42:10.000So they're scared to death of their forces, their enforcers of this new world order learning the truth That the American people are going to be enslaved, and that really ticks off soldiers and police officers once they learn the truth, because they are highly patriotic.
02:42:27.000Yeah, this is such a free country, why are they kicking people out of the military who've just read something, when all it is is the Constitution?
02:42:45.000Nice to be able to talk to two true patriots.
02:42:48.000And thank you, Jack, for that scripture.
02:42:50.000That was quite... My question for you, Jack, is down there in Phoenix, do you remember that flyer that Sheriff Arpaio out of Maricopa County put out a few years ago?
02:43:09.000Right, and the FBI put it out actually.
02:43:11.000The FBI put it out, but it had Sheriff Arpaio's, the Sheriff's logo on it, and he got ticked off about that because he didn't have anything to do with it.
02:43:23.000Yeah, and that flyer lists Christians, they call them Doomsday Cult groups, which Butch Reno under Clinton, remember that's exactly what she called Christians, Doomsday Cult members.
02:43:38.000And that's what they list in that flyer, FBI flyer for police officer eyes only, that the police officers got out to the public, praise God, some patriotic police officers got it out.
02:43:49.000By the way, Jack... Also a constitutionalist in there.
02:45:51.000Yeah, we've been talking about the SPP for a long, long time, months and months, and that's just since they put it up, but it's the American Union, so yes, sir, thank you.
02:46:14.000Uh, I went through something with the police here not too long ago.
02:46:19.000And, um, they, I guess they think that I'm a terrorist because, uh, I took my children out of state and they said that I, um, kidnapped them.
02:46:28.000And, um, I was put in jail and they, um, They have like a, oh I don't know, I think it was a $100,000 bill.
02:46:35.000Well this happens all the time where people take their kids out for a week to go on vacation, they come back truancy officers that have been called, or are you divorced and just took them out of state to visit somebody and they called?
02:47:35.000Yes, it's a hard situation, but it's going on all across the nation, my dear, and get with, it is hard to find an attorney you trust, I know, but try to and get something going on that to come against him for doing this to you because It's a true crime to accuse you of kidnapping the children, very serious crime, when of course you were just on vacation.
02:48:01.000So I would follow Alex's advice and get started on that immediately.
02:48:06.000Had you gotten back to town when they arrested you?
02:48:11.000Well I mean, I would just go before the court and say no cause, drop it all, this is a complete joke, and demand a jury trial if not, and get up there and tell your story.
02:48:18.000I took my children out for vacation, came back and got arrested.
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02:52:02.000The land grabbing now, a lot of times, they don't even, county, city, federal, state, they don't even say it's for environmental reasons.
02:52:08.000They just say, we're taking it, we're not paying you for it, and if you fight us in court, we'll make up something and charge you for cleaning your property, you know, a million dollars.
02:52:17.000I mean, it's getting, the cases I see on a daily basis now are just out in the open corruption.
02:52:24.000So at the same time, people are waking up, Jack, but At the very same instance, the government's just going wildly corrupt.
02:52:31.000Isn't that amazing, Alex, that the Supreme Court just came out with their decision a few months ago, just at the time when this NAFTA superhighway has to put through and take away hundreds of thousands of people's property to put in that superhighway.
02:52:47.000Isn't that amazing how that all came together?
02:52:51.000It is, and I see cases where they grab multi-million dollar pieces of property and just say, we're not paying you anything.
02:52:58.000Well, a lot of people are sure going to lose their property under this superhighway going in, brother, and so... By the way, there are 80 of them.
02:54:11.000I wanted to bring some information to the attention of your listeners that might help out in situations what you were talking about today, and that is the Civil Rights Act of 1871.
02:54:22.000People can find it if they research Title 42, Section 1983 of the United States Code, commonly referred to as just Section 1983.
02:54:31.000And in there, it provides that anyone who, under the color of state or local law, Causes a person to be deprived of their rights guaranteed by the Constitution or federal law is liable to that person civilly.
02:55:45.000Jack McClam, I want to thank you for joining us and I'm excited that in the last month you've joined the GCN Radio Network weeknights at 7 p.m.