Alex Jones is joined by Clara Halpert, producer of A Scanner Darkly, the Philip K. Dick adaptation that is getting rave reviews from the Cannes Film Festival, and Tommy Pallotta, the producer of The Dark Side Of, a near future police state dystopic film that opens in most major cities this weekend and then in hundreds of theaters in the next few weeks.
00:00:57.000The government is taking it and of course not giving them proper just compensation, setting the trend, expanding the trend of open land grabbing by the government and the private criminal interest that have grown up around it.
00:01:14.000Then we're going to have Tommy Pallotta, the producer of A Scanner Darkly, the Philip K. Dick adaptation, That is getting rave reviews from the Cannes Film Festival to right here in the United States.
00:01:27.000He'll be joining us to talk about this near future police state dystopic film that opens in most major cities this weekend and then in hundreds of theaters in the next few weeks and then over a thousand screens by the time it is fully released in the next month.
00:01:45.000Tommy Pallotta will be joining us coming up in 30 minutes in the next hour.
00:01:50.000Richard Linkletter joins us on the 11th, coming up early next week, the director of the film.
00:01:57.000He also has Fast Food Nation coming out, exposing that travesty, and so he'll be on the air with us talking about both of those films, the double barrel approach, as one critic called it, from the Texan Richard Linkletter coming up next week.
00:02:22.0007-7, the one year anniversary of the British government carrying out terror attacks in London.
00:02:33.000They then had another dud attack two weeks later on 7-21.
00:02:41.000And my new film, Terror Storm, spends I guess about 40 minutes of the just shy of two hours on the London bombing on the ground in London.
00:02:52.000We were there just a week and a half after 7-7 in the middle of the government operation We were there exposing it, and we have made a new film, Terror Storm, and the centerpiece of the film is 7-7 London bombing.
00:03:10.000So it is apropos, it is fitting, that we are releasing Terror Storm in the month of July.
00:03:19.000The official film with the extras won't be out until next month, but we have a limited run ...of Terror Storm that actually has had about four and a half minutes cut out of it.
00:03:29.000The final version will have about four minutes cut out of it.
00:03:31.000You get this special edition because we don't have time to wait.
00:03:36.000We printed up limited copies of these and they're almost all gone.
00:03:42.000Get your copy of Terror Storm now, the collector's edition.
00:03:46.000Every copy, of course, I've also signed.
00:03:49.000And start making copies and getting them out to people.
00:03:51.000We just can't wait a month until the extras are done and the official DVD is all printed up with the pretty color cover.
00:03:58.000And I hope you'll visit InfoWars.com, the secure video and bookstore, and get a copy of Terror Storm and some of the other books and videos while you're at it.
00:04:05.000Or I sincerely hope that you will call toll-free to secure your copy 1-888-253-3139.
00:04:18.000Really, I had an eye on making a film about the London bombing, so if you want to be technical, it's almost a year in the making because I decided to make a film about the London bombing a week after it happened when it was clearly an inside job.
00:04:30.000I then traveled to London, so almost a year in the making, but technically, 11 months in the making.
00:04:36.000I spent over three times as much money on this as I spent on any previous film.
00:04:39.000Terror Storm is now available, professional music, very professional graphics and animations.
00:05:58.000America's future depends on the truth getting out.
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00:09:53.000Regarding the ultimate source of the leak for the Valerie Plame affair.
00:09:58.000Also, Wayne Mattson will be talking about the USS Cole TWA-800, which is now, of course, being blamed on the Iranians.
00:10:05.000Folks, I want to make this very clear.
00:10:07.000If you stub your toe, if you hit your finger with a hammer, it is no doubt because of the Iranians.
00:10:14.000We'll be talking about TWA 800, the coal and Valerie Plame with Wayne Madsen who by the way is a, was a former communications security analyst with the NSA in the 1980s and an intelligence officer in the US Navy.
00:10:26.000He's testified numerous times for Congress and is syndicated in many, many newspapers.
00:10:32.000Wayne Madsen joining us in the third hour of today's broadcast.
00:10:35.000Well no doubt If you've been paying attention, if you've been trying to follow the news either on the Fox News Channel or on any of these neocon screaming head radio talk shows, you will have heard the ultimate wargasm going on collectively all throughout the airwaves!
00:10:55.000Israel has a right to kill all those dirty raggeds, all those dirty Muslims, all those dirty Shias out there, and war is not only begun, but it is escalating so fast that we can hardly keep track of it.
00:11:10.000I understand that this audience, being highly intelligent, highly educated, who have done their homework, Understand all of the implications involved and understand that before we get up and get up on our soap boxes and start screaming about the head of Hamas living in Syria, which gives us the ultimate right to start bombing Syria, or Iran, or Palestine, or any of these locales near the country of Israel, we better take a good look in the mirror.
00:11:40.000Because as we understand, I'll give you one example of terrorists, a terrorist that we actually guard, that we keep.
00:11:46.000I mean, look, if they're harboring terrorists, we must go in and immediately start bombing them.
00:11:56.000If we're harboring terrorists like Luis Posada, and the entire gang of terrorists that helped us throughout Iran-Contra, or if we're working with MEK, or we're working with any number of terrorist organizations around the world, let's not forget how all of this begun, working with, funding, and training the very terrorists we're now fighting, whether they Hezbollah, Hamas, or Al-Syedah, then we really don't have the opportunity to call the kettle black.
00:12:26.000Let he or she who is without sin cast the first stone.
00:12:32.000Now, there have been a number of developments.
00:12:35.000We've been watching this very closely now for the last 12 to 24 hours.
00:12:40.000In fact, I was out in front of this story many weeks ago.
00:12:43.000We've finally gotten the world to open its eyes and see what is really happening now in the Middle East and why it's happening.
00:12:50.000But a few recent developments I want to share with you Today, the Ahmadinejad came out from Iran and warned very sternly against attack against Syria that there would be hell to pay if Israel and her allies started bombing Syria.
00:13:08.000Immediately afterwards, Saudi Arabia came out and warned Iran that if anything happens, they will have hell to pay, and sternly judging them.
00:13:18.000The Vatican has finally come out, warned Israel and admonished and condemned Israel for the attacks on Lebanon.
00:13:25.000And the Vatican and the United Nations both come out.
00:13:28.000Now, of course, if you're a neocon in the middle of a massive wargasm, bloodlust, You will, of course, attach the United Nations condemnation of Israel to every so-called liberal in the United States.
00:13:45.000Now, that doesn't include some of the more well-known liberals, like Michael Savage, like Sean Vanity, like George W. Bush, And the rest of these so-called neocons who, as we know, have an extensive neoliberal background.
00:14:12.000Everybody waiting to see what will happen next.
00:14:15.000Last night, in a war of words, I believe, rhetoric that will sponsor even more violence to come down the road The United States faced off with China at the UN Security Council.
00:14:52.000In the middle of all this is the one and only John Bolton, head neocon.
00:14:58.000Isn't it... I mean, I have to say, folks, isn't it comforting to know that the only thing that stands In front of war, world war, between China, Russia, the United States, and the powers that be, is a guy, Mr. Walrus, himself, I am the Walrus, cuckoo-ca-choo, John Bolton.
00:15:21.000So we understand that these people are extremely biased.
00:15:24.000Now here's the unusual part about all this, because if some of you are listening to this, you're going, Jack, I hope that you're not Uh, co-signing.
00:15:32.000I hope you're not endorsing United Nations.
00:15:34.000No, in fact, that's the only thing we agree with these neocons on except for we want to completely repeal and step off of the United Nations and begin to eliminate the tentacles which reach throughout our education and social Apparatus here in the United States.
00:15:49.000These are tentacles, of course, with the United Nations that aren't quite as weak as the political authority of the United Nations, which are extremely embedded and strong throughout every facet of our culture.
00:16:02.000So we believe even more strongly than your favorite liberal, I mean, neocons out there, including Laura Ingreid and others, who believe that the United Nations should be abolished altogether.
00:16:13.000Well, they want to abolish the United Nations, much in the way The League of Nation was abolished.
00:16:29.000Condemning Israel for attacks on Lebanon, the Vatican on Friday strongly deplored Israel's strikes on Lebanon, saying that they were, quote-unquote, an attack on the sovereign and free nation.
00:16:39.000Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Angelo Sedano said Pope Benedict and his aides were very worried that the developments in the Middle East risk degenerating into a conflict with international repercussions.
00:16:53.000In particular, the Holy See deplores right now the attack on Lebanon, the free and sovereign nation, and assures its closeness to these people who have already suffered so much to defend their independence, he told Vatican Radio.
00:17:06.000Israel struck Beirut Airport again on Friday and bombed Lebanese roads, power supplies, and communication networks in a widening campaign after Hezbollah guerrillas seized two Israeli soldiers and killed eight.
00:17:18.000Sadano said the Vatican condemned both terrorist attacks, terrorist attacks are in quote, and military reprisals.
00:17:25.000Hezbollah, which wants to trade its captives for prisoners held in Israel, has showered rocks across the frontier, allegedly in its fiercest bombardment since 1996 when Israel launched a 17-day blitz against southern Lebanon and Hezbollah.
00:17:39.000But Saldana reserved his harshest words for Israel, quote, the right for defense on the part of a state does not exempt it from its responsibility to respect international law, particularly regarding the safeguarding of civilian populations.
00:17:53.000He said, even Condoleezza Rice, who was immediately, along with the George W.
00:17:59.000Saying that Israel had a right to defend herself against these evil terrorists is now starting to backtrack in the sea of reprisals.
00:18:12.000The people who, by the way, have enough common sense to know that strikes on civilians killing innocent ten-month-old babies and four-year-old girls, alleged terrorists, does not stop terrorism.
00:18:29.000Any egghead, well I don't know, sometimes I think that uneducated people, people who haven't finished high school are more intelligent than some of these think tank types, but let's just call a spade a spade.
00:18:41.000Let's just put everything where it needs to be here.
00:18:45.000And that is, this isn't happening by accident.
00:18:53.000They don't continually do things that cause quote-unquote blowback!
00:18:57.000Without knowing that that is going to be the result, in fact, the desired result.
00:19:02.000But now we have Condoleezza Rice backpedaling, saying that it is not okay to hit targets which will kill civilians, being very careful and very measured as this particular conflict escalates.
00:19:16.000So here we have Saudi Arabia on the side of Israel.
00:19:20.000Did you ever think you were going to see that day come?
00:19:23.000Well, we've already seen this with Jordan and Egypt and others running these torture camps in order to torture American suspects or enemy combatants.
00:20:08.000When the mainstream media is reporting on such a perilous topic with such candor, it should be taken very seriously.
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00:23:59.000Crashing through the lies and disinformation.
00:24:05.000It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.
00:24:13.000Welcome to another live original broadcast of the Alex Jones Show.
00:24:15.000Jack Blood again sitting in for Alex today who is on assignment.
00:24:18.000He should be calling in to check in on the program live here in just about seven or eight minutes at the bottom half of this hour.
00:24:24.000Scott Ritter joining us in the second hour.
00:24:26.000Wayne Madsen joining us in the third hour.
00:24:28.000We've got a ton of news, investigative reporting, and on the ground Analysis coming through on the program today on this three-hour broadcast.
00:24:37.000We're going to take some calls in the first hour.
00:24:39.000That might be the best time to call in if you want to get on the air today.
00:24:58.000Palestinian group denies holding Israeli soldier.
00:25:01.000A Palestinian militant group on the Gaza Strip on Monday denied media reports that it was holding an Israeli soldier who was captured in a raid into Israel on Sunday.
00:25:11.000Spokesperson for the Popular Resistance Committee is one of the groups which carried out the incursion, says it had no information about the soldier.
00:25:18.000So again, a lot of the alleged quote-unquote kidnappings, hey look, if they're on the wrong side of the border and This is war.
00:25:28.000I think we need to be very clear about the terminology and not fall into groupthink or newspeak on this issue.
00:25:34.000So again, more information coming out as we speak.
00:25:37.000We'll be constantly updating you on this today, including India saying Pakistan elements back the bombers which we initially figured out right away regarding the massive train bombing in India which is of course called the 7-11 bombing.
00:25:52.000We have 9-11, 3-11 and 7-11 start looking for dates of the 11th and probably stay away from trains at that point.
00:26:01.000We are going to go to your calls 800-259-9231.
00:26:46.000I haven't heard... What's the information?
00:26:49.000Yeah, the information was that her investigators reported to her that there was a meeting back in November 27th Ninety-five between Shimon Peres and Javier Solana, who is the current Secretary General of the EU.
00:27:08.000Also, he's Secretary General of the new... And what was the basis of the meeting?
00:27:13.000The meeting was to strike a treaty called a Treaty of Association between the European Union and Israel.
00:27:22.000And it involved the bringing in of the Palestinians into some of the real estate there in Israel.
00:27:31.000I imagine that turned out to be the the uh... what what that was probably part of the withdrawal plan that we saw earlier this year which upset so many people in Israel who by the way are out on the streets today protesting some of this violence.
00:27:44.000You know, why do you think then uh... so you've kind of put that into that compartment.
00:27:48.000Why do you think the EU came out and condemned Israel today for their recent acts of violence?
00:27:57.000In May of 2005, there was a meeting in the White House between a small organization from the EU and George Bush's organization, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, and several others, and they wanted to strike another treaty called the Barcelona Agreement, which is the war we have in Iraq.
00:28:20.000And the thing of it is that in order In order for them, the EU, to come to our assistance, because they have targets on the Mediterranean area over there.
00:28:32.000They want to set up a Mediterranean free trade area involving all those countries surrounding that Mediterranean Sea over there.
00:28:42.000And there was a certain deference that the United States would have to make to the EU.
00:28:49.000Whatever you're saying over there now must be within the constraints of the... Well, sure.
00:28:53.000I mean, look, what you're talking about, and all of this makes sense, and I can confirm most of everything that you're saying, okay, Jim?
00:28:59.000What you're talking about is order out of chaos.
00:29:02.000I mean, in order to keep the centralization moving forward, you need to have this violence and this chaos.
00:29:08.000You know, I look at the Middle East very much like I look at South America right now, where We're gearing up to have our American Union, our regional government for North America, but the ultimate goal, or at least on the way to global governance, which is the ultimate goal, what we do have in play here is the Pan-American Union.
00:29:25.000I look at the Middle East as part of the Pan-Asian Union, and they can very much be compared, if you want to get a situation going here, figure this all out.
00:29:33.000They can very much be compared to what we have in Central and South America now.
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00:32:40.000Life is short, and timing is everything.
00:33:34.000Once or twice a year I try to come down to the funky Texas coast to little fishing, build sand castles with my wife and children.
00:33:41.000And driving down to the beach yesterday afternoon, I almost turned around to come home to just cancel it because of this war provocation.
00:33:50.000You know, all the experts told us, Ray McGovern inside CIA people told us, that in the next three or four months, that was about a month ago, that they would have provocations, that Israel would create provocations.
00:34:01.000To attack Iran and Syria, and then it would probably start somewhere in Palestine.
00:34:08.000So I wanted to just spend a few minutes here, and then I'll get off the air and let you get back to your great analysis that I was listening to on the beach via shortwave just a few minutes ago before I came into the hotel.
00:34:17.000And now you're absolutely on target, and so were the callers.
00:34:22.000But anything the globalists do has a cost-benefit analysis.
00:34:26.000They look at a whole spectrum of New World Order interest, and then they say, "Is this better for our interest, short-term, long-term, or is it worse for our interest?" And if something fits a whole string of New World Order interest, then they will push it.
00:34:43.000And I think one of the biggest here is about domestic diversions in Israel, with Olmert in a lot of trouble.
00:34:50.000We also have Bush in a lot of trouble.
00:34:53.000This really is the build-up to the October surprise.
00:34:56.000It will probably be some type of limited strike on Iran, or even worse.
00:35:00.000And then, of course, Israel's own documents going back to the early 80s.
00:35:18.000They want to break Syria up into two to three parts.
00:35:20.000They want to break Iran up into as many as six to eight parts.
00:35:24.000They want to break Afghanistan up into four parts.
00:35:27.000They want to even try to break Egypt up into two parts.
00:35:29.000So this is the official plan, and they do this by escalating, by provocateuring these provocations.
00:35:37.000And, I mean, every few months Israeli soldiers get killed or get captured, sometimes every day.
00:35:44.000They're just basically hyping this and turning this into a big deal and when the Israelis drop a thousand-pound bomb on a neighborhood and kill 65 people in a pop, it's loving and sweet and good and those are subhuman Arabs.
00:35:58.000But when a suicide bomber blows themselves up a few times, it's real and not a Mossad or Shambat operation.
00:36:04.000By the way, that's Israeli newspapers admitting their government creates fake al-Qaeda groups, Hamas groups, others.
00:36:09.000Then it's, oh, the evil terrorists, the greatest evil in the world.
00:36:12.000And I just refuse to be part of this hypocritical uh... propaganda any longer so this is a clear provocation last week we heard actually two weeks ago we heard when the first israeli soldier got grabbed that syria was running at all syria has been lifting our boots rolling over arresting whoever israel and the u.s.a.
00:36:31.000it's really pretty pathetic uh... so now they're trying to claim that they're behind it total fraud then as you know yesterday it's on InfoWars.com continual total coverage on InfoWars.com that's the site that's going to cover this the most right now on my uh... eight sites
00:36:45.000And so, expanding out from there, now the Israeli military says, oh, Iran has the two newest captured Israeli soldiers, or Hezbollah is trying to transfer them over there.
00:37:02.000Now, this is the same Israeli government, through the ADL out of Canada, that put out the propaganda a few months ago that all Jews were going to have to wear yellow insignias on their coats.
00:37:14.000And the Christians would have to wear blue ones, and Zoroastrians green ones.
00:37:18.000Turns out, no connection to reality, total complete lie, Reuters AP had to retract, it was totally made up, it was a national law encouraging the government to fund textile mills, period.
00:37:31.000So, you know, just like our government has farm subsidies, they had a textile thing, and it was nothing in it about Jews, nothing in it about Christians.
00:37:39.000And it said that they should try to fund the companies that were encouraging Islamic dress.
00:37:44.000So the companies over there, there was going to be a subsidy for Islamic dress and not Levi's.
00:37:49.000That's translated into Jewish stars that have to be worn by Jews.
00:37:52.000Total lie, just like the PR company in 1990 hired the daughter of the PR owner, never been to Kuwait, claimed she saw babies being thrown out.
00:38:29.000It's about getting permanent bases there.
00:38:30.000It's about taking over the whole region and the next 10-year plan, as they call it.
00:38:34.000And then domestically, it's about a political distraction and a political football because, oh, if we're in a war, we've got to get behind them.
00:38:40.000Israel's already saying they may go all the way into southern Syria.
00:38:43.000Then there could be some convenient attacks over here.
00:38:46.000The government can claim that that was carried out by Hezbollah or Hamas.
00:39:03.000Excellent point, because as we've been covering, there's absolutely no way to transfer soldiers from Syria up to Iran in today's modern world.
00:39:12.000No, the whole thing's full of AWACS fighter planes.
00:39:59.000signs a deal, former CIA director, signs a deal for hundreds of millions in missile launchers, weapons, guidance systems, and cash for them to hold them until the day of Reagan's inauguration.
00:40:13.000Boom, as soon as Reagan comes in, they release him.
00:40:55.000So, guaranteed, there's so many nexus points here.
00:40:57.000This only benefits Israel and the globalist interest in the U.S.
00:41:00.000Let's finish making the connection, because Ahmadinejad, as you have been widely acclaimed, was involved in holding those captives back in the Jimmy Carter era under the Ayatollah Khomeini.
00:41:12.000Exactly, and we know that was a CIA op.
00:41:16.000Our government staged that with them, made a deal to hold it off.
00:41:19.000That's how sophisticated these people are.
00:41:22.000So what do you make of Ahmadinejad's saber-rattling now against the warnings, the threats that have come out all over the news today against Israel, saying if they go into Syria, there's going to be a major backlash?
00:42:31.000Head of uh... uh... uh... about the security forces CIA made a deal make him the head of security Intelligence and we won't keep killing your leaders.
00:43:35.000But first, kimono, who benefits, who stands to gain, then the historical context of Western intelligence being involved in all of this.
00:43:42.000You put those two things together, you put the timeliness of this coming up in the elections here, how they need this politically, on top of it, it just...
00:43:51.000It's exactly what we said was going to happen.
00:43:52.000Let's not forget, we have Scott Ritter coming up here in just about 20 minutes, and he's talked about this extensively.
00:43:57.000So again, this is just a matter of public record, highly documented, that we were funding both Iran and Iraq against each other in the Iran-Iraq war.
00:44:05.000So we have a long history, as you mentioned, for the last 55, 60 years in being behind much of what happens in Iran.
00:44:12.000Though again, I think what people need to understand logically, Alex, and you could speak to this, is that we might control, we might have a lot of influence in a place like Iran, That doesn't mean we control every day-to-day operation that goes on in Iraq.
00:44:24.000Well, I mean, what it means is, and we know this from history, The globalists make deals.
00:45:27.000Saudi Arabia means... So here we have these Wahhabi-run, these Islamic countries that are barely just holding at the seams, and something like this, what we're seeing now going on in the front lines with Israel, could really bust those seams wide open.
00:45:42.000Saudi Arabia came out today and threatened Iran.
00:45:45.000Well, you're right, and that's because their government, put in by the British almost 90 years ago, is tottering.
00:45:52.000And the Globalists are confident that Musharraf can maintain control in Pakistan, but that is doubtful.
00:45:59.000And it just shows the arrogance of the New Order clan and what they're doing.
00:46:03.000But bottom line, Israeli intelligence and U.S.
00:46:05.000intelligence and British intelligence fingerprints are all over what's happening.
00:46:10.000We know in the past that they have controlled these Arab fighters and radical Muslim groups.
00:46:17.000And this whole thing is nothing but a perfect provocation to go into Iran And Syria, either one or both.
00:46:24.000But just shifting gears, Jack, I should have written an article about this, too.
00:46:28.000It's the 133rd anniversary of Bohemian Grove.
00:46:31.000Google has a big headline that we have up on InfoWars.com right now about, you know, secret rituals and the elite.
00:46:40.000We need to really remind people that meeting right now in Northern California, and then tomorrow they will have, for the 133rd time, this satanic ritual where they sacrifice care.
00:46:53.000And in Methodopheles, in that famous book written 500 years ago, about the deal with the devil, That's actually based on a true story in the book about Faust.
00:47:33.000So everybody should remember, that's going on tomorrow, and we got footage last year inside Bohemian Grove, and then again, almost, it'll be six years ago tomorrow, in 2000.
00:47:43.000On July 15th, they're at the Grove, and so people really should get the Order of Death and get it out to people, and people should contact Google and Yahoo and others that are doing articles on this and say, hey, you guys need to report on what really goes on there, Jack.
00:47:55.000Not to mention bombard some of these chicken-hawk, neocon, screaming-head radio talk shows.
00:48:00.000And let's also not forget, let's add this in, because while they are getting rid of their care and doing mock sacrifices and wearing hoods, worshipping a 40-foot stumbling elephant... They're pulling out Palestinian children.
00:48:10.000That's right, and I'm sure that that's part of the ritual, the overall global ritual, but let's not also forget they're having little fireside chats and discussing policy right now as it pertains to world and geopolitics.
00:48:21.000You're right, Jack, and I would just add to all of this, when I get back on, you're going to be there Monday and Tuesday and I really appreciate that, and if we attack Iran or Syria, I'm going to be in the car and I'll end up being there Monday, but you can just call us with me or something, but bottom line, When we sit here and we look at all this unfolding, the globalists need a worldwide crisis to bring in their world government.
00:48:45.000This is just one more step in this whole line towards that, and it is not in our interest to be attacking the Arabs and blowing them up and killing them.
00:48:53.000And, you know, so many people have bought in to just mindlessly supporting Israel, and others have bought in to mindlessly Attacking Israel, and my whole comment on just attacking Israel itself, I'm tired of Europeans, and I'm tired of liberals and others going, you Christians like George Bush, you're all nuts.
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00:54:27.000Of course, we are again on the brink of another cremation of terror, another anniversary of our wonderful Christian leaders and captains of industry and major publishing media heads all wearing gowns and hoods and doing monk sacrifices in front of 40 foot stone owls as they discuss geopolitical, national, and world policy.
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00:56:41.000Scott Ritter coming up here very shortly, and then Wayne Madsen joining us in the second hour of today's program.
00:56:47.000We're going to continue to talk about what's going on in the Middle East, and we're going to tie that into a number of other pertinent issues that are being reported by these two great whistleblowers.
00:57:03.000Jack, I was wondering if you're familiar with A paper issued by the Israeli government called the Daniel Project.
00:57:16.000It states that they have just a very short, small window of opportunity to attack Iran Right.
00:57:25.000Because they're nuclear facilities and I was just calling to... That's what Ray McGovern had been saying just a few months ago on this program.
00:57:34.000And there's a lot in play in this, and I'm not exactly familiar with the precise element you're talking about and sharing with, but we just have to use our common sense.
00:57:55.000So, I see the Israeli government working in concert with Washington, at least in as much as Cheney wrote the PNAC document, and it seems to be going down the same road.
00:58:12.000Cheney, Jeb Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Prince of Darkness, Richard Perle, Scooter Libby, and the gang, they call them the Vulcans.
00:58:21.000So somewhere there's a memo coming out of the road department that talks about all of this happening.
00:58:27.000I gotta tell you, it's just all lining up too perfectly for the neocons.
00:59:24.000He has a limited amount of time with us, and we just got him for about 15 minutes here at the last minute to weigh in on this impossible situation we face.
00:59:33.000If you're not familiar with Scott Ritter, he was for 12 years an intelligence officer in the United States Marine Corps.
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00:59:57.000Scott, always good to talk to you, man.
01:00:24.000I mean, you know, most Americans today, you know, got up and didn't even turn on the television, didn't read the newspaper, you know, and went about their daily activities.
01:00:34.000When they turn on the TV, when they turn on, or when they do read the newspaper, they either are looking for, you know, cheap entertainment, reality TV, sports, you name it.
01:00:44.000The last thing they do is dive into the, you know, extremely complicated You know, a sequence of events that's playing itself out in the Middle East.
01:00:54.000And even if they do read that, they don't have the depth to read beyond the headlines.
01:00:58.000Well, look at the cheerleaders for both the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and even what's going on now on two fronts on Israel.
01:01:06.000People that didn't actually serve in war, weren't on the front lines in war, and probably have little to no understanding what actually happens in war.
01:01:15.000If they do, then of course they're sowing death to the American people.
01:01:21.000Yeah, they're not just selling death to the American people, they're selling power for themselves.
01:01:31.000They use the war as a vehicle of empowerment, and they play upon the fear and ignorance of the American people.
01:01:37.000They say, look, there's a huge threat out there, it's constant, it's ever-present, and you need to empower us to do things.
01:01:45.000The American people, as long as it doesn't impact them here at home, They'll let the government do whatever they want, including infringing on their individual civil liberties in the name of security.
01:01:54.000Which is always at the bottom line of all this.
01:01:56.000Scott Ritter, what were you thinking as you watched this develop?
01:02:00.000First in Palestine, now in Lebanon and Syria, with the threats and the saber-rattling going on from, you know, Riyadh up to Tehran.
01:02:12.000Well, I'm seeing conflict being forced.
01:02:14.000I mean, we know that there was an element of Israeli government The Israeli government that was looking to exploit the pro-war tendencies here in America to solve their problems with Iran, with Syria, with Hezbollah in Lebanon, with Hamas, through military action.
01:02:43.000I'm not saying that there's not bad guys out there that need to be dealt with, It seems that diplomacy has been given little or no chance.
01:02:50.000The only time people mention diplomacy is when it's a smokescreen to, again, confuse the general populace.
01:03:01.000Well, and then here you go again with the mainstream media coercion, where if you even mention something like diplomacy or ceasefires or talking rather than killing, you are perceived as weak and coddling the terrorists.
01:03:16.000Yeah, a week in coddling the terrorists.
01:03:23.000But, you know, this global war on terror, as you dig into it, you find out that the reality is most of the terror faced by Americans is created in the minds of policy makers who exploit this color-coded fear charge that the Homeland Security's put out there.
01:03:38.000We're going to get to that on the other side of this break.
01:03:40.000Scott, you're staying with us for about 10 more minutes.
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01:07:28.000Our guest today, Scott Ritter, former U.N.
01:07:30.000weapons inspector, getting his analysis on the world on the brink.
01:07:35.000And as Scott, you just said, I couldn't agree with you more that this is really some type of color-coded We've just talked to Alex Jones and we did, I think, a very good analysis for about 20 minutes how these global chieftains seem to back both sides of any military conflict.
01:07:55.000When we got together last time and we did an event together, you and I, Scott, and we talked about that extensively.
01:08:02.000Iran and Iraq were both backed by Western forces in that war, and I think that's a pretty good example of how, I think, what we're seeing now in the Middle East, no?
01:08:19.000Again, as I said, it's a matter of the ignorance of the American people being exploited by those who have ulterior motives, whether it be oil, whether it be Domestic political power, etc.
01:08:50.000What's going on in the Security Council right now between China, Russia, the United States, and some of the major players as this all plays out?
01:08:57.000Well, I mean, remember, the Security Council is composed of nations, especially the five permanent members who wield the vetoes, who use the Security Council as a vehicle to promote, more or less, their own national interest.
01:09:14.000I mean, do you see this boiling over to a conflict?
01:09:18.000Because this is what a lot of people are talking about, Scott, and I think a lot of people are... I don't see global conflict.
01:09:22.000I see The Security Council is a tool that could have meaningful impact on resolving conflict if the individual member states would let it.
01:09:33.000The number one transgressor is the United States.
01:09:37.000We're the ones that, through our new ambassador John Bolton, have basically said, we don't respect the UN, we don't respect international law, and we will only abide by it when it suits our Specific national interest.
01:09:53.000It doesn't speak much to the air of cooperation.
01:09:57.000So, therefore, you know, we pressure the Chinese to go after North Korea while we do nothing on Israel.
01:10:04.000China says, to heck with you, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna move forward, you know, as we see fit.
01:10:10.000China doesn't want a conflict on its own borders.
01:10:13.000The North Korean thing can be dealt with diplomatically.
01:10:15.000The Iranian thing can be dealt with diplomatically.
01:10:18.000Israel could be dealt with diplomatically if the United States is willing to stand up to Israel.
01:10:22.000But, again, this is more about, you know, people that we liken to chicken hawks who have never been to war, never worn a uniform, but use the language of war, because war is one of the things that's most easily sold to an ignorant population.
01:10:36.000We saw that with the Germans as they sold global conflict on the German people during the 1930s, and we've seen this today with the new American empire run by Bush and Cheney, and how the Republicans, and indeed many Democrats, have basically painted the picture of, you know, a world out of control that requires, you know, unilateral military intervention, that we can only resolve this by the sword, that anything less than the sword is weakness, and that, you know, we can't go down the path of being weak, or our enemies will exploit this.
01:11:06.000I mean, this is stuff that plays well on TV, and it's stuff to, you know, to debate against, because they just look at you and go, oh, you're a wimp.
01:11:16.000The problem is, there's a lot of people like me who aren't wimps, Who've been in the military, been there, done that, have the t-shirt.
01:11:22.000We're standing up and saying, you know, war should be the last option.
01:11:25.000And what I mean by the last option is the last option.
01:11:28.000We should, you know, make sure that we exhaust every other option to resolve a conflict before war.
01:11:34.000But see, that opens you up to criticism.
01:11:36.000That means now you get to be attacked as we can.
01:11:38.000And the people that are promoting war aren't doing it for national security.
01:11:42.000They're doing it for Their own domestic political interests.
01:11:46.000And what you've said before, and you've gone on the record many times, we should not be surprised that civilians, innocent civilians and children are being killed in a war.
01:11:54.000That's what happens in wars, isn't it, Scott?
01:12:35.000Again, it's Part of, not only bad policy, but bad people who are making this policy.
01:12:45.000People who truly don't care about human beings.
01:12:49.000You know, you came out, I think it was about a year and a half ago, and you were speaking out very strongly against an attack on Iran, and reading the, not the tea leaves, not looking in your crystal ball, but looking at intelligence that you had with your connections around the world, seeing things really escalating into Iran, nearly predicting Well, it depends who you ask.
01:13:07.000a year ago today and then I know recently you came on and said, "Well, here's the next window." What I'm getting at here is, are they running out of time?
01:13:14.000Is that why we're seeing things escalate so much now, every second?
01:13:17.000Literally, while we're doing this show, something else is being bombed, something else is escalating.
01:13:22.000Are they running out of time with Iran and Syria?
01:13:27.000There are certain political powers that believe that, you know, forcing this decisive conflict prior to the November elections would be foolhardy.
01:13:36.000Uh, there are others who say, look, the Democrats don't have their act together at all, and as long as it's seen as being forced on us, not by us, we can get away with that.
01:13:45.000And in a way, that's what's happening now, is Israel's forcing the issue.
01:13:48.000If this was an issue that was just left to the United States, I don't believe that we could see this kind of action taking place until after the November elections.
01:13:59.000But because this is being forced upon us, the Bush administration will be seen as being in reactive mode instead of being preventive, instead of being proactive.
01:14:10.000And the Bush administration could say, we had no choice but to go forward.
01:14:13.000Right, and using Israel as a proxy to actually make that happen.
01:14:19.000You think it doesn't go that far, Scott?
01:14:21.000Are we in the heads of the Israeli government?
01:14:23.000Are we in the heads of guys like Shimon Peres or Olmert?
01:14:27.000Is the tail wagging the dog or the dog wagging the tail here?
01:14:31.000Well, I think it's a combination of the two.
01:14:34.000I think the Israelis definitely have a game plan, but they need the United States to do certain things with that game plan.
01:14:42.000It all works when America does it willingly.
01:14:44.000When America doesn't do it willingly, The Israelis will exploit the tremendous influence they have in the policymaking circles of the United States to get us to do things.
01:14:54.000It's very difficult to take on the Israeli lobby.
01:14:58.000It's a very difficult thing to do if you're an American politician, because it's all based upon money and influence, and it's based upon the control of the media.
01:15:07.000The second you speak out against the Israeli lobby, you're labeled anti-Semitic.
01:15:11.000And, you know, now you're fighting a fight.
01:15:14.000You're no longer dealing with the issue you want to talk about, which might be irresponsible Israeli policy, or, you know, too much Israeli influence in American policymaking.
01:15:22.000You're now fighting that, oh, I'm not as anti-Semite.
01:15:26.000The second that you have to shift gears and start addressing that issue, they win.
01:15:30.000Yeah, I often find we have to put disclaimers on shows like this, just because, again, this is exactly the The allegations that will be levied upon us when we even have discussions like this.
01:15:40.000Yet, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Coronado Base, which I know they train a lot of Navy SEALs at, which is in the shape of a swastika.
01:16:07.000Yeah, I'd have to know more about it to understand what the symbolism there is.
01:16:10.000We'd also have to actually digest and throw down some semantics on the word Semite because we know that means actually Arabs and Jews as well.
01:16:19.000How do you see this playing out, Scott?
01:16:22.000Look forward for the next couple of days or the next week or the next month, if you would.
01:16:26.000Well, I don't see the United States ready to make a decisive move on Iran.
01:16:31.000You know, we don't have that gamebook in play yet.
01:16:34.000And so I do see that we will give Israel enough reign to take on Hezbollah.
01:16:42.000But Israel couldn't decisively take on Hezbollah in Lebanon unless they engage Syria.
01:16:49.000And if you engage Syria, you bring the Iranians in.
01:16:51.000And so we're going to see Israel just pounding the heck out of Lebanon.
01:16:56.000You'll see the United States moving in and trying to resolve this thing.
01:17:01.000Because I still believe that The most influential political thinkers in Washington, D.C.
01:17:07.000feel that taking America down the path towards military conflict prior to the November elections is not wise.
01:17:17.000There is a possibility people will say, look, it's early enough in the political game that if we act decisively now, we might have this thing all wrapped up before November.
01:17:26.000But I think that voice is in the minority, so I believe the United States is going to do its best to rein Israel in.
01:17:32.000I've noticed that the rhetoric coming out of the State Department, Condoleezza Rice at this point, is now starting to admonish and kind of warn Israel about hitting civilians, and they seem to be backing off from the carte blanche that was originally given to Israel, though George W. Bush is not pressuring Israel for any type of a ceasefire.
01:17:51.000Is it even possible with all of our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq Well, we're not doing nothing.
01:18:03.000We're not going to, you know, act militarily if that's what people are looking for.
01:18:07.000But I mean, we are engaged diplomatically.
01:18:10.000What I'm getting at here is if this turns out that Syria or Damascus is actually attacked tomorrow or the next day or the day after that, I mean, can we just stand back and go, oh well, this isn't us, it's Israel doing this, and watch the fireworks?
01:18:24.000I mean, being there on the ground, being on the border of Iran, being caught in the middle of all this, I mean, we have to do something.
01:18:31.000Well, if Israel attacks Syria, and it escalates, and Israel refuses to back down, then pretty much America's been sucked into a war.
01:18:40.000I mean, Israel really is in the driver's seat here, because if Israel makes a move on Syria and Iran retaliates against Israel, we now have a regional conflict that will involve American military.
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01:23:13.000Well, just going back to the Scott Ritter interview we just finished with, I mean, the key there, just as we were finishing up the interview, is if we get suckered into a war...
01:23:22.000I mean, you can have a conservative analysis here, you can hope for the best, you can hope that cooler heads will prevail, but in the end, what do you do when you're suckered into a war?
01:23:33.000I don't really believe we can be suckered into a war.
01:23:36.000I think Obviously, having done a lot of research into globalism, globalist control of these various powers and countries and leaders around the world, I'm not sure if it's even possible to get suckered into a war.
01:23:50.000What is possible is to make it look like we were suckered into a war, which I think is entirely predictable almost at this point.
01:23:58.000I mean, how desperate are the neocons?
01:24:00.000How desperate are the global controllers at this point?
01:24:04.000The reason that they're getting desperate, the reason that they've run out of time with Iran and Syria and some of these ultimate objectives is because you backed them up.
01:24:15.000The same thing with the free trade area of the Americas, the American Union, the Pan-American Union, we were talking about that earlier.
01:24:23.000We've backed them up, we've backed them into a corner and we're looking at all the information now coming out and the populace, the populace mindset, the overall collective getting in their faces about 9-11 and them having to answer to the big questions about 9-11.
01:24:40.000You really get a picture of a rat backed into a corner, baring its teeth.
01:24:45.000So could we get suckered into this war?
01:24:47.000Are things going to continue to escalate?
01:24:49.000Or can we look at the recent statements coming out of France, the Vatican, the United Nations, even the State Department, beginning to kind of backtrack here and rein this whole thing in?
01:25:01.000I just certainly hope so, at this point.
01:25:04.000But again, hoping isn't one of my better aspects or traits, honestly.
01:25:11.000Because we have to almost expect the worst, knowing what these people have already done.
01:25:16.000We're going to continue to take calls.
01:25:18.000I thought we'd have Scott Ritter a little longer, but that means we have time to take all of your calls at 800-259-9231.
01:25:24.000You can weigh in on the Middle East situation.
01:25:27.000You can bring up just about anything you want.
01:25:29.000We've got a ton of news here to report, so we can get to any number of things.
01:25:59.000It was kind of weird calling into his own talk show, but he did.
01:26:07.000You know, we got, as your guest Scott Ritter mentioned, and the Bible mentions too, Wars and rumors of wars.
01:26:17.000Now, at some point, Jack, with all this chaos and disorder, people are going to, in desperation, you know they're going to clamor for a savior or a leader.
01:26:35.000Bring us out of the wilderness, so to speak, and rescue us from our own demise.
01:26:40.000Well, half the people think that that's George Bush.
01:26:42.000The other half think it's someone like John Kerry or Hillary Clinton.
01:27:25.000Are we being pessimistic here, or do we have to prepare for the worst?
01:27:29.000Well, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
01:27:31.000Look, I mean, I'm seeing them ramping up bird flu in a way that... I mean, at this point, I thought they had dropped it.
01:27:37.000I thought that we had revealed, ultimately, this hoax and this scam and another point and purchase of fear-mongering.
01:27:44.000But here we are again, now seeing the funeral directors here in Texas and around the country preparing for a lot of dead bodies.
01:27:51.000The Red Cross in Peoria, Illinois, saying that the mutation of the bird flu is going to arrive there, and more fear-mongering on bird flu.
01:27:59.000So I guess at this point, if you're not prepared, and I want to emphasize the word prepared, if you're not prepared, and prepared for the worst, you've got to be really living in a segment of non-reality, some type of a matrix.
01:28:12.000Well, Jack, I'm terrified of the terrorists, and I'm living in fear of them.
01:28:16.000But it's a fear that I know they will try to hurt me.
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01:32:33.000Do you get the feeling that we're having an effect?
01:32:36.000Finally, we have people in the mainstream media, Lou Dobbs and many, many others now, coming to the realization that we are about to lose our sovereignty, that there is an American Union at foot, and that something needs to be done about it.
01:32:50.000Huh, you said Scott Ritter on the air?
01:32:52.000I mean, as I mentioned earlier, years ago, we're reporting there'll be no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
01:32:57.000This is a big plot and a plan to do any number of things on a cost-benefit analysis basis.
01:33:03.000And yes, because we didn't attack Scott Ritter, we listened to him, we were able to have that information.
01:33:09.000I want to go over with you, regarding Bohemian Grove, just some of the editorial that's floating around in mainstream media today.
01:33:19.000Bohemian Grove, a 2,700-acre redwood forest in Sonoma County, California, owned by the Bohemian Club, is apparently set up for camping, but that's where things start to get a little fuzzy.
01:33:29.000The Bohemian Club is an exclusive all-male club founded in the late 1800s.
01:33:34.000The story goes that writers like Jack London, Mark Twain, and Bret Hart were looking for an excuse to drink together, and they invited a few local businessmen to foot the bill for the boozing.
01:33:42.000The club grew It gentrified from there.
01:33:46.000Every July, the club holds a two-week-long private event at the Grove, rumored to be a summer camp of sorts for up to 2,500 rich and powerful men, including CEOs and U.S.
01:33:57.000But it is a creepy concentration of world powers holding bizarre rituals and setting agendas, or is it just an innocuous bunch of guys getting soused and exercising their right to relieve themselves on the Redwoods?
01:34:13.000Again, Yahoo, obviously, has not seen the order of death.
01:34:18.000We are curious about the legend or the alleged lakeside talks where government, business, and entertainment big shots meet for some intellectual stimulation, but the annual gathering is famously difficult to get into.
01:34:28.000The reliable documentation is hard to find, not if you look.
01:34:32.000And since we haven't been invited, we're sure it's merely due to a clerical error.
01:34:56.000Counterpunch, and this is generally Well, I'm not going to say.
01:35:00.000It's a very libertarian-oriented website if you haven't been to counterpunch.com.
01:35:04.000Alexander Kockberg, Jeffrey Sinclair writing a story.
01:35:09.000Back in 2001, meet the rulers of the world, the truth about Bohemian Grove, and they go on to talk about the Bilderberg Group, Nelson, David Rockefeller, the people that rule the world, the world's secret government, even mentioning the term Illuminati.
01:35:27.000So again, I mean, more and more information coming out through various forces over the last A couple of years and really now coming to a head.
01:35:35.000The pinnacle really starting to come out to the mainstream public and again we can only thank the internet and the great research by our own Alex Jones to make that happen.
01:36:39.000I mean, do people realize that there are over 600 FEMA camps within the United States?
01:36:47.000And basically, I guess what they're calling future concentration camps.
01:36:52.000And of course, they're all there by executive order.
01:36:55.000And some, like the ones in Alaska, Only accessible by air and rail transportation.
01:37:03.000Well here's the thing about that though Jeff, let me interrupt you because for years we were talking about the quote-unquote FEMA camps and I had an interesting exchange with Oliver North once about this, but now we're seeing because of the international war on terror, global war on terror, we're seeing people brought to I mean, this is just out in the mainstream media.
01:37:32.000And in case you don't believe that your local convention hall or your local Superdome could be a concentration camp, I mean, let's just look and see what happened in New Orleans.
01:37:41.000So, of course, again, mainstream media, Halliburton building, ICE camps to detain quote-unquote illegal immigrants.
01:37:47.000Well, we know they're not going to really detain illegal immigrants.
01:37:49.000They're going to get them So what are those camps really for?
01:37:52.000So this isn't a big, dark conspiracy now where we've got to try to get some shots of the double-decker trains with the handcuffs in them, which I've seen before, or we've got to get some pinnacle location of these quote-unquote FEMA camps.
01:38:07.000Now we know that anything could be a FEMA camp, and of course, again, it's admitted, Halliburton even building more camps.
01:38:14.000And I think that, well, for the most part, the FEMA camps Uh, you know, if Bush declares martial law, let me go back to Katrina first.
01:38:24.000I mean, I think that that was just a training exercise.
01:38:27.000A lot of the things that, you know, a lot of the actions or inactions by the government were, to me, directed toward a training exercise to see how it would be, you know, what response would be given.
01:38:41.000And, you know, if Bush declares martial law, FEMA's infamous red and blue list, and according to CIA sources and other government officials, they have over 6 million Americans' names marked with a priority arrest.
01:38:56.000And that would be activists or protesters.
01:39:05.000And, you know, basically to determine, you know, I guess, where they're going to send Do you think it's feasible?
01:39:13.000Do you think it's feasible that they can round up so many dissenters?
01:39:16.000I mean, we've heard about 5 million people last time I checked being on some type of a terrorist watch list here in the United States of America.
01:39:24.000I mean, who's going to be able to round up all those people if they stand up?
01:39:28.000Now, I understand that a lot of the people that might listen to this show that consider themselves Patriotic Americans, or even dissenters, might fold pretty quickly when their food and water is cut off.
01:39:39.000So, I mean, I guess they might just walk right into these camps as we saw people do in New Orleans.
01:39:43.000Well, you know, let me tell you, the government, as far as them considering who is a terrorist, you know, you may have been a peaceful protester at the Republican National Convention, or perhaps an individual who had an interest in the wrong book at the library.
01:40:02.000But the bottom line is, I mean, you know, here we talk about martial law and we get these warnings coming from Tommy Franks and others that this Constitution will be suspended if we get another attack here on U.S.
01:40:12.000soil and that martial law could be invoked and we could have a militarized police rounding people up, but let's look at this logically because what I'm trying to get out here, Jeff, is that a lot of this is a fear tactic, scare tactics, because they honestly can't monitor all of us and do something about it.
01:40:29.000They honestly can't You can't round us all up and throw us into camps.
01:40:32.000A lot of this is going to have to be voluntary.
01:40:34.000Oh well, I know with me it's not going to be voluntary.
01:40:37.000If they try to round me up, there's going to be a fight.
01:41:00.000Yes, they've got Carnivore and Echelon and
01:41:03.000certain uh... spider bots and programs watching what you do in reporting what you read from the library but what can they actually do about it is that it's called freedom of speech under the first amendment and you know under the executive order this FEMA deal the government and in case of martial law they can take over the railroads they can take over the inland waterways they can take your property they can take your car they can use your house as a command base exactly and you know Jack I mean I think that
01:41:32.000You know, there's a railroad company called Gundersen Railroad Company.
01:41:38.000They received a contract to build over 400 boxcars.
01:41:41.000Now, these boxcars were ordered and paid for by the UN.
01:41:45.000And these boxcars had, what, I think it was 135 human shackles in each car.
01:41:53.000Now, I don't know how they can put that many people in there, maybe, you know, but having said that, We're just going to rescue you.
01:42:02.000We're here to help you, but we do have to chain you up for your own safety.
01:42:10.000It makes me think, Jack, what does the New World Order have planned?
01:42:14.000Bush, Cheney, they've been known to have ties to these railroad companies.
01:42:22.000Kansas City, Southern, Union Pacific, Trinity Railcar, Chamberlain Group, and Greenbrier And, I mean, if anybody does Google search on any of that, you know, the board of directors and all of that stuff, but, you know, now some of these boss cars, Jack, have been cited to have such labels as Kansas City Southern on the side to make them appear more inconspicuous.
01:42:47.000But boss cars typically have numbers like CSXT with a number on the side, which actually reporting the mark indicating who owns the car and the number being how to route them.
01:42:59.000But, um, it's just, you know, that's why I said fear the train of coming, because, um, if they institute martial law, there's six million people that are on these red and blue lists, and of course the CIA knows about this, they can't deny it.
01:43:15.000They're part of the people who compile the list.
01:43:18.000Well, you've got a lot of information, Jeff.
01:43:19.000As much as I'd like to sit and co-host this show with you for the next hour and a half, I've got a lot of calls, so I'm going to let you go there.
01:43:25.000I suggest, you know, you've got a lot of information, compile it into an essay, help syndicate that, get that around the Internet and get this information out to people.
01:43:32.000But, again, I want to be very clear here.
01:43:36.000Maybe Dick Cheney or somebody is involved in this type of behavior, but if they think they're safe from the globalist controllers, all they have to do is look at some of the rats who were sacrificed, who outlived their usefulness, and we can run right down and start at Noriega, go to Saddam Hussein, and even Kenny Boyle.
01:43:54.000Uh, to give you a few examples of this.
01:43:56.000Really no one's safe from this behavior, but we have to remember that they can't get us all if we stand up and that's why we never, never lay down.
01:44:04.000Charles in Rhode Island, thank you for holding.
01:44:27.000Yes, I wanted to mention that I think we've really got to break out of the media's hype and whitewashing Israeli terrorism, the neocon military industrial complex terrorism of the United States and realize that As you said earlier, and I really appreciate you mentioning the fact that this government is harboring terrorists who have bombed, assassinated, blown up a Cuban airliner right down there in Miami, Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada.
01:44:56.000And these guys are held up as heroes rather than being put into the dock for absolute capital crimes.
01:45:06.000And back a few years ago, all the media was in Cuba And they completely covered up a well-documented tribunal that went on for a couple of weeks with foreign people, leaders, witnesses, and victims of U.S. terrorism that went on for 40 years against Cuba.
01:45:24.000That included blowing up Cuban airliners, bombing hotels, germ warfare, assassinations.
01:45:30.000That can all be justified because Cuba is bad, right?
01:45:34.000Yes, the demonization of whoever is being set up for attack and the whitewash of these neocon military industrial madmen.
01:45:42.000I recall that it was Ray McGovern who said that the present gang of neocons in this government, as bad as other governments in this country have been, We're considered even by those other...
01:45:58.000I appreciate what you're saying, and one thing that we have to make clear to everybody here is we don't hate this country.
01:46:06.000I'm speaking for myself, John, maybe not you.
01:46:12.000That's why we're trying to point out the obvious, because until we understand the history, until we understand what's really going on, that yes, we are sheltering terrorists, we're training and funding terrorism all around the world, we're not going to be able to stop this merry-go-round.
01:46:26.000Well, if you're listening to this program maybe for the first time and it sounds like, oh wow, these are a bunch of lefty kooks that hate their country.
01:46:35.000That's why we pass along the information we do.
01:46:37.000It's because if we don't let people know what the history is, if we don't let people understand the deep analysis of what's going on right now as we're broadcasting, we'll never be able to fix it.
01:46:46.000The old adage, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
01:46:56.000I think people do have to get other sources out, like the Workers' Org, who brings some of this out.
01:47:01.000But we've got to realize, I think that even countries like that, you were talking about the police state measures that are threatening us.
01:47:08.000And whether we're going to go peacefully into the night, there's a lot of evidence that the founders of Israel actually collaborated with the Nazis.
01:47:17.000The Zionist organizations actually collaborated with the Nazis.
01:47:21.000Yes, books like Zionism in the Age of the Dictator, where the Zionist organizations collaborated with Himmler.
01:47:32.000To exterminate millions of Hungarian Jews, telling them they were going to bucolic war camps, and they knew totally that they were going to their death.
01:47:41.000And some of these people were the founders of Israel.
01:47:43.000This idea that Zionism is the protector of the Jews is one of the biggest lies and hoaxes of the century.
01:47:49.000And I think a lot of people in Israel actually know that.
01:48:02.000Yeah, all this problem we're having is really escalating over there, you know, and a lot of people don't know that Israel is the one that attacked USS Liberty and blamed it on Egypt.
01:48:10.000Well, look, I'm going to bring up, let me just interrupt you for one quick second, because I'm going to bring up Wayne Matson, who alleges that the USS Cole was actually attacked by Israel, and that is some breaking news that we haven't really discussed before, so that could be some new information we haven't heard, and yes, I mean, there is a pretext, isn't there, behind every war, behind every conflict, and General Smedley Butler was exactly correct when he said war is a racket.
01:48:34.000Well, one of the main reasons I called you up was to talk to you was that, you know, before 9-11 happened, I kept seeing a couple planes run into a building, but I didn't know where it was at.
01:48:44.000Well, now, you know, about the last couple weeks, I've seen a couple missiles flying over a certain type of hill.
01:48:51.000And the astronauts, you know, left on Independence Day.
01:49:31.000But, you know, that's something people are forgetting because it left on Independence Day, and I suppose it comes back and they blame it on North Korea, the midget edges over there.
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01:53:23.000Wayne Madsen coming up here in the next hour, talking about some new developments in the Valerie Plame case.
01:53:28.000TWA 800, the anniversary was just recently.
01:53:31.000Now we're seeing that this is being blamed on the Iranians.
01:53:34.000And some possible new information on the coal strike the coal bombing which was the initial al-qaeda offense which could have been pulled off by israeli forces and that's a lot of this kind of makes sense because we have watched as the the terrorists that are involved in the coal bombing are constantly escaping from their captive quarters around the world.
01:54:03.000That should be an amazing, groundbreaking interview.
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01:55:31.000So there's a lot that goes to this, but these are great instruments to wake people up.
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01:56:26.000Look, our leaders, this is one of, I think, we're talking about cost-benefit analysis and all the different levels that these controllers benefit in going into Iraq.
01:56:35.000One of the first things we notice is that the museums were being raided and all of the trinkets and all of the powerful, occultist Treasures were being gobbled up and raided, and look, this is the same thing with Egypt.
01:56:48.000This is why I believe when I read white papers that say Egypt is on the board, that we want to go take over Egypt, we want to stabilize Egypt with a project for a new American century, or Saudi Arabia.
01:56:59.000We see these people really coveting their homeland, and if you don't believe me, folks, look around you, you will see nothing but the eye of Horus and pyramids all throughout the infrastructure and architecture in the new United States of America.
01:57:14.000Yeah, and William Cooper, that's what he covered, and he definitely got taken out because he was not allowed to live in a post-911 world.
01:57:22.000Yeah, we could have used William Cooper right about now, but we carry the torch for William Cooper.
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01:58:38.000We're looking to be joined here by Wayne Matson here coming up very briefly, but I'll give you kind of a synopsis on what they've been reporting at the Wayne Matson Report.
01:58:47.000Following on the Patrick Fitzgerald's free pass to Robert Novak, who recently just came out, as of yesterday, the day before, admitting fully that yes, Karl Rove was the source of the leak for Valerie Plame.
01:59:00.000They wrote, quote, by gaming and judicial processes, To favor the White House, Fitzgerald, who has reportedly been pressured by Cheney's Uber counsel and Chief of Staff David Addington and the Attorney General, is giving the Bush administration a number of escape routes to the CIA leak case, postponing the Libby trial until after the elections and after the expected Bush pardon of Libby, that's right, expected Bush pardon of Libby, quote-unquote, at the end of December.
01:59:28.000Running out the clock on the three-year statute of limitations on a potential civil lawsuit by Ambassador Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson, starting from the dates of the original wrongful actions by the Bush White House in July of 2003.
01:59:42.000Although there are indications that the workup on Wilson and his wife may have commenced as early as March 2003, which again would be a technicality to run out the statute of limitations.
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02:00:11.000against Vice President Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby and 10 other White House officials in the conspiracy to leak her name and ruin her career.
02:00:19.000That's exactly one of the things we're going to be talking about with Wayne Madsen when he joins us here very, very briefly.
02:00:25.000We have time to take a couple of calls until we have Mr. Madsen with us.
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02:01:22.000There are a lot of groups that we work with.
02:01:24.000I was just talking about this on the last break with one of the guys here at Infowars.com.
02:01:28.000There are a lot of groups we work with that have a common enemy, such as us.
02:01:34.000We want to protect the borders, so we've supported the Minutemen over the years, but At the same time, if you look at some of the affiliations with the Minutemen, and certainly I'm not talking about racism as much as I'm talking about affiliating with known neocons and praising people like Ann Coulter, I think we have to be, I hate to use this term with you, but we have to be fair and balanced.
02:01:53.000We have to know who we're affiliating with and who we're promoting.
02:01:58.000And though I would certainly not agree with this very radical statement, and I will take that up with Mr. Madsen, I do think that we have to keep our eyes open.
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02:06:09.000I wanted to go into more depth of India now accusing Pakistan quote-unquote elements backing the recent bombings there on 7-11.
02:06:17.000I also want to talk about the alleged rapist from Iraq, Stephen Dale Green having a long history of trouble and some criminal behavior which was waived in order to get him on the front lines in the military.
02:06:31.000I mean, these are the people that are signing up for the military largely.
02:06:36.000We have a lot of very good people in the military who are stuck, I believe, in an impossible situation.
02:06:42.000Now starting to really question, largely, what they're doing and what orders they're being given.
02:06:47.000But also, really scraping the bottom of the barrel in order to fill the quotas needed to keep the military moving, keep the military together, and to keep us fighting on multiple fronts.
02:08:07.000Now, most of our listeners, they do listen, and they're good people.
02:08:10.000But until they get into a position like New Orleans, into the Dome Stadium, Where they see their child disabused, or their wife slapped around, or be robbed, right in the dome stadium, the police standing outside, and then you go to report your abuse, and they tell you, you better get back inside or they'll threaten to shoot you.
02:08:32.000One boy asked for water and he was on television and they put a dog on him for asking for a glass of water.
02:08:40.000These people think, what's going to happen to me?
02:08:42.000A storm can come tomorrow and they'll do it to them.
02:08:47.000Well, related to that story, Charles, I mean, the Senate just voted to bar emergency gun confiscation.
02:08:53.000Of course, they're talking about legal guns, and the only way for them to find out, because this again relates to the situation with Hurricane Katrina, the only way for them to find out if the gun's legal or not is to actually break down your door, go in, start checking the guns, and then even confiscate them for further checks with registry to make sure that the guns are legal and database.
02:09:58.000How would you like to be in the New Orleans?
02:10:01.000Right now the shootings are so bad around here that the National Guard is saying that's what's wrong, but I don't believe it.
02:10:07.000How would you like to be there sitting with no gun?
02:10:09.000You have a couple of children, your wife, and you've got 10,000 idiots running around with guns shooting people, and they tell you, you better not have a gun, but they don't go copperskate their guns in a knife war.
02:10:22.000I lived in the Maronies, so I probably don't know much about New Orleans, but I did live in the Maronies for a year.
02:10:27.000Right on the edge of a ghetto, and believe me, I always protected myself.
02:10:32.000My house was used during Katrina as a command center, taken over and used as a command center by the local police.
02:10:39.000Tell me quickly, before we let you go, what is the situation with the so-called Posse Comitatus, the National Guard being moved into New Orleans?
02:11:39.000They're there to get the people used to.
02:11:41.000They're going to evacuate if it's Category 3.
02:11:43.000So they're going to evacuate again if it's a threat.
02:11:47.000Well, we're seeing this happen all over the country, Charles.
02:11:50.000I mean, I reported a while back, just a few days ago, on something called the Beast being unleashed in Dearborn, Michigan.
02:11:56.000I mean, they have a bad crime there, so they took one of these Carlisle Group robot soldiers, armed with shotguns and cameras and microphones, and they're unleashing that on the streets of Dearborn, Michigan, to control Crime, and of course, in New York City, in Los Angeles, in D.C., where, again, they have declared a state of crime emergency due to a few... I mean, we've all been to D.C., we know how bad it is, but this is the opportune time.
02:12:21.000Big cities all over this country declaring crime emergencies, putting up cameras that can see, folks, 4,000 feet.
02:12:30.000Okay, quite a ways to see and that are armed again with microphones in order to catch any shotguns going off, any gunshots going off, because we know the police are going to be right there whenever there's a gunshot going off.
02:12:41.000No, they're there to listen to us, they're there to monitor us, they're there to condition us.
02:12:45.000Well, they're going to evacuate again.
02:12:46.000They're getting ready to evacuate again.
02:12:48.000I want to see what's going to happen this time.
02:14:44.000And you know, I explained to her, she don't want to get this to her ear, but some of these things, she has to listen.
02:14:51.000And she has to open up her mind to what's going on.
02:14:54.000You know, and I get stopped in the mail and things like that, the movie.
02:14:58.000Well, I'll tell you what, Gil, if she has any more information or you have any more information and you can help us predict an attack in Portland or anywhere, we'd sure like to see some evidence of that and sure like to help the people in advance before the coming disaster.
02:15:42.000Wayne wanted to come on and talk about this recent hearing.
02:15:44.000I believe this has to do with the civil suit being brought by Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame in order to protect the statute of limitations regarding any indictments that eventually may or could be handed down against the people involved high and high up in the Bush administration including the Roe v. Cheney.
02:16:04.000Here's the thing, we've watched this now for quite some time, haven't we?
02:16:09.000Some pretty legitimate alternative news sources reporting over and over again that this was the day we were going to see the indictments and then we saw everybody let off the hook, which couldn't be a big surprise if you knew anything about Patty Fitzgerald.
02:16:23.000Who has always been a cover artist for people ranging from the mob to people high in government, in fact, working very closely with Rudy Giuliani on some of this.
02:16:32.000So it can't be a big surprise, and I think that if we're waiting and hoping for something, some kind of justice to visit upon the White House, I think it might just be a cold day in hell.
02:16:43.000Not that we don't deserve it, not that we shouldn't push for it, but I think getting our expectations up is sometimes very dangerous, and this is why We try to get out to you Demopublicans out there, you Democrats out there, that getting your hopes up, sitting back and waiting for your party to enter into Congress and take control of Congress, create hopefully gridlock or even a just accidental check or a balance, is again getting your hopes up.
02:17:13.000I saw a documentary, left of the dial, on Air America and watching these guys get their hopes up for Skull and Bones Carrie to win that election and then the aftermath and the depression that set in when they lost that election and was stolen was really something to I think set us in a good perspective.
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02:23:04.000What happened at this press conference and what are we looking forward to here?
02:23:07.000Well, I guess the biggest thing was the fact that for the first time Valerie Plain Wilson spoke!
02:23:16.000We've seen her photograph, but we haven't heard her speak before.
02:23:21.000She talked about how damaging this leak was to her and her family, and her associates, and her friends, and that she holds the Bush administration responsible for this act.
02:23:42.000She and Ambassador Wilson also spoke, and they spoke about the lawsuit they filed at the U.S.
02:23:50.000District Court in Washington yesterday, where they will be seeking monetary damages from Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and 10 unnamed The White House officials, but although we don't know who they are, I think we can reasonably assume they're the members of the White House Iraq group, or the Whigs.
02:24:13.000Who were responsible for the quote-unquote workup on Wilson and his wife.
02:24:18.000This probably isn't as much about money as it is keeping this in the courts.
02:24:21.000We mentioned earlier, related to your website, the Wayne Matson Report, that there's a statute of limitations related to this information that's about to expire.
02:24:31.000I mean, is this their way of keeping this in the courts so that eventually there can be justice delivered?
02:24:36.000Well, yeah, there's a three-year statute of limitations.
02:24:40.000Uh, that was due to expire on the, uh, third anniversary of the Robert Novak column, which is today.
02:24:48.000So, uh, what one could argue when the wrongs were committed, uh, Some people claim that the workup began as early as March 2003, and we know about the President's trip to Africa on July 6, 2003, but I think for all reasonable purposes, we can say that the clock started to tick when a Novak-exposed claim and her Brewster, Jennings & Associates network
02:25:16.000And then people suffered as a result of that.
02:25:19.000Her network of informants and colleagues were rolled up within the matter of 24 to 48 hours and I was told by one good source that a one CIA agent in a non-official cover position in Iran was executed as a result of that leak.
02:25:39.000Yeah, people die when you leak the name of covert CIA agents because everybody they're connected to goes down with that particular agent.
02:25:47.000So, I mean, this again could be looked at as an act of treason.
02:25:50.000Though, I want to always remind people, when we're talking about the Plame-Wilson case involving Rove and Cheney and Novak and some of these players, this is really more about fixing intelligence going to war than it probably is about anything else.
02:26:06.000It was all retaliation for Joe Wilson writing the op-ed in the New York Times questioning Bush's claim in the State of the Union that Iraq had tried to procure yellow cake uranium ore from the West African nation of Niger, a country he had visited at least twice before on similar uranium missions for the CIA.
02:26:30.000He was an African and he was appointed by the old President Bush as the U.S.
02:26:35.000Ambassador to Ghaffan, another exporter of uranium.
02:26:39.000And he had served as the head of the African desk for the National Security Council in the Clinton administration.
02:27:02.000Well, apparently, from what Novak says, Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, informed him that He was no longer the subject of any investigation having to do with the leak.
02:27:14.000It indicated that his investigation of the entire leak was now concluded.
02:27:19.000It almost seems like he's biting the hand that feeds him as well.
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02:31:22.000We're talking about the new revelations, new press conference coming out by former Ambassador Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, where we've heard Valerie Plame speak for the first time now, announcing a civil suit.
02:31:46.000Now, the administration is going to argue that the Vice President and the President cannot be deposed, nor, they'll probably say, other senior White House officials, because they'll try to get a stay from the judge, and they'll claim that the Vice President and the President are too busy to be deposed in a civil lawsuit.
02:32:09.000That sounds a lot like politics to me, though.
02:32:11.000Well, the problem with that is the When the right wing decided they were going to go after Bill Clinton on a civil suit by putting Paula Jones up to her antics, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that the President could not argue that his job was so busy where he could not be deposed in that civil trial.
02:32:33.000And of course, that led to a whole series of events that ultimately led to his impeachment.
02:32:38.000Now, when the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 against Clinton, in that case, Judge Scalia, in his oral arguments, said, well look, I don't think the President's that busy, because every time I see him on TV, he's golfing.
02:32:54.000Now, that can be turned around to say, well, Judge Scalia, every time I see Dick Cheney on television, he seems to be hunting with you, Judge.
02:34:00.000And I think with the White House, especially Cheney's very tough Chief of Staff and former counsel David Addington said to Mr. Fitzgerald is, look, you can indict 10 people in this administration, but if the President is going to pardon them at the end of the year, why are you wasting the time of the government and the government's money?
02:34:20.000And I think Fitzgerald, who was viewed as this Elliot Ness crime fighter from Chicago coming into Washington to clean this up, wound up like Elliot Ness when Elliot Ness took on J. Edgar Hoover.
02:34:33.000I kind of think you're giving Fitzgerald too much credit here.
02:34:36.000I want to make sure our listeners are straight on what we're saying because I don't believe Fitzgerald had any intention of indicting any of these people ever.
02:34:43.000In fact, I think we were all played as suckers, Wayne.
02:34:50.000Friends of mine are very close to the case and look, This guy, Fitzgerald, can be trusted.
02:34:55.000You know, and my gut feeling was not to, especially with his very political indictment of Governor Ryan of Illinois after the commutation of the death sentences on death row.
02:35:05.000And the governor cited, the reason he did it, he said, prosecutorial and law enforcement misconduct in the city of Chicago and the state of Illinois.
02:35:13.000Well, what he was talking about are Fitzgerald's colleagues.
02:35:16.000And no prosecutor likes to be have his friends come under that.
02:35:23.000And I think the indictment of George Ryan for stuff he did while he was Secretary of State and as governor was clearly a selective prosecution by Patrick Fitzgerald.
02:35:39.000I mean, you've been in intelligence a long time, and people do become expendable, and certain people get credit for taking those individuals down.
02:35:47.000Maybe Fitzgerald, in this case, was doing that.
02:35:49.000Let's do a little bit of a segue here, because the anniversary for TWA 800 was recently celebrated, or not celebrated, I guess.
02:35:57.000Fitzgerald had a little bit of a tie to that.
02:35:59.000Talk about that and talk about some new information being circulated around and in different circles that Iran might have actually been behind TWA 800 even though the Clinton administration and all the rest did cover that up.
02:36:16.000Attorney's Office in New York so he was there when the 800 went down.
02:36:21.000But it's not surprising that the neocons would be trying to pin this on Iran, taking advantage of the 10th anniversary.
02:36:27.000But I've recently reported on my website, wematsupport.com, is the fact that recent information I've received from FBI informants say that it was, they were Aryan Nation people who took it out with the stingers that were stolen from the neocons.
02:37:18.000That TWA was shot down by one of our own missiles?
02:37:22.000Potentially, maybe to be blamed on domestic terrorists, or to be blamed on Iran down the road, but wasn't that what really happened?
02:37:29.000Well, Pierre Salinger, who I knew, got it only partly wrong.
02:37:32.000He said it was shot down by a Navy missile fired from a Navy ship.
02:37:38.000They were stingers stolen from Navy, you know, where they pre-positioned supplies for merchant ships or supply ships to go to the Middle East and other hotspots.
02:37:56.000These stingers and a lot of AR-15 assault rifles were stolen at the same time from Florida National Guard armories.
02:38:02.000And two of these stingers I wound up in the hands of a group that took him to New York, and I was told by an FBI informant, because they were trying to buy him back, the FBI was trying to buy him back from the perpetrators, $30,000 apiece, but they had no takers, but one of these fingers was obviously used by people who rented a speedboat in Long Island, and went and waited for the... Do you believe this actually was a terrorist incident?
02:38:30.000And we're going to hear this on the news specials about a Center Spontaneous Fuel Tank Explosion, which I think is, again, the... Sure.
02:38:39.000The government explanation is the real conspiracy theory here.
02:38:44.000Are you familiar with Kathleen Bjorgeson, I believe her name is, who used to work for 60 Minutes, actually found some type of missile residue in the plane.
02:38:53.000They fired her for trying to report it.
02:38:55.000Not only that, but even people with the NTSB who complained about the cover-up were dismissed.
02:39:02.000There were, of course, all kinds of witnesses who were cowed by the FBI not to talk.
02:39:07.000Jim Kallstrom, who was the head of the FBI office in New York at the time, was very, very aggressive with people who claimed they saw vapor trails of missiles.
02:39:17.000We even saw radar images out of Kennedy Airport showing a definite blip that Got closer and closer to the plane until the plane disappeared.
02:39:28.000Any possibility here that this was a potential false flag operation that went wrong with too many witnesses and had to be swept under the rug?
02:39:47.000By the way, the same elements in Florida that planned this, two individuals were in their midst a couple years prior, and that was Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.
02:40:02.000Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because it's evident to me, I absolutely have no doubts at this point, that both the Oklahoma City bombing and the World Trade Center 93 were false flag operations.
02:40:14.000Obviously, as I'm sure you know, the 93 World Trade Center bombing, FBI sting, which was reported all over the New York Times, there were tapes to that effect.
02:40:22.000I mean, again, I'm wondering if this fit in with that whole series of false flag operations leading up to 9-11.
02:40:31.000Well, certainly, you know, I did a lot of investigation on the ground in places like Jersey City and Union City where these guys in 93 were based out of.
02:40:42.000On Kennedy Boulevard in Jersey City, and this was the same month that was used by the same people for the 9-11.
02:40:51.000I mean, you know, lightning does strike twice in the same place in these cases, but you would have thought that the FBI would have been all over that particular area very closely, and they weren't.
02:41:02.000And that, I think, is very glaring when we note some of these discrepancies or coincidences, as we call them.
02:41:09.000coal bombing, because you've reported, or it has been reported, at least to news citing unnamed intelligence agency insiders, talking about the U.S.S.
02:41:17.000coal bombing being carried out by Israeli submarines firing a cruise missile.
02:41:21.000I gotta tell you, Wayne, I've never heard that before.
02:41:25.000I never heard it before either, and I was approached by a He was a former member of the Joint Terrorism Task Force in New York who worked for the CIA.
02:41:34.000He worked with John O'Neill, who of course died in the Trade Center after he had been harassed by the Bureau because of where his investigation of the coal was taking him into embarrassing areas.
02:41:48.000And he worked with the individual out of the New York field office, the FBI, that was chasing It's really quote-unquote movers who were seen photographing the impact of the planes at the Trade Center and were there before the first plane hit and had cameras set up indicating they knew about it.
02:42:11.000But this individual told me that what John O'Neill really wanted was to get DNA samples from the hats worn by the guys in the boat, the two Arabs that were accused of this, and he wanted to do analysis of the mud on the floor of the harbor to look for clues.
02:42:35.000And he was not convinced that the guys in the boat were the ones who did it.
02:43:01.000He worked undercover under a diplomatic cover in New York and he showed me his diplomatic passport And all of these is, he said, look, I've got to show you my bona fides here first.
02:43:15.000He said, look, he said it was taken, the coal was hit by a submarine-launched cruise missile.
02:43:21.000You know, I've got to tell you, Wayne, that's a lot more believable than, you know, a couple of Al-Qaeda guys going up to a warship in a boat.
02:43:32.000Let me tell you what I got from French intelligence, and they provided me the documents, classified documents, Al-Qaeda had intended to hit a U.S.
02:43:40.000Navy ship in Yemen, but it wasn't the Cole.
02:43:44.000They first planned to attack the Sullivans.
02:43:47.000It's a ship named after the Sullivan brothers who died in World War II.
02:43:54.000So they first attempted to hit the Sullivans.
02:43:57.000And they called it off because they knew they couldn't pull it off.
02:43:59.000So, I have a documented intelligence proof saying that Al-Qaeda decided early on that they weren't going to hit a ship in Aden, although they did hit a French tanker off the coast of Yemen, but not in the same area near Oman.
02:44:14.000Have you had an opportunity to look into the backgrounds of those who were actually jailed?
02:44:18.000Who, by the way, have all escaped now, according to the mainstream news out of Yemen.
02:44:23.000Have you had an opportunity to look into those people who were blamed?
02:44:25.000I mean, did they have any MI6 or CIA intelligence backgrounds?
02:44:30.000This is the part of the world where one day you're working for one group and the next day you could be working for another.
02:44:34.000I mean, Yemen is a very tribal country.
02:44:38.000The border with Saudi Arabia is indistinct, and by the way, that border area is exactly where the Bin Laden family hails from.
02:44:46.000But, you know, the loyalty shifts there, as do the fans.
02:44:52.000Do you have any sense of irony, Wayne Madsen, that we have chicken farmers and goat herders locked up at Gitmo, but these alleged Yemeni, or these alleged Al-Qaeda bombers in Yemen are allowed to escape?
02:45:04.000Well, you know, you see that, and you see the fact that we flew all the Bin Ladens out of the country two days after 9-11.
02:45:11.000And then they shut down the Bin Laden office at the CIA the other day, and Bush, as his quote is saying, he's not worried about Bin Laden.
02:45:21.000You have to draw your own conclusions from all that.
02:45:23.000My conclusions are that these guys aren't serious and that Bin Laden is obviously making these videotapes from a U.S.
02:45:43.000I thought he might rise on the third day.
02:45:45.000I mean, the guy giving the sermon the other day did compare him to Jesus Christ and Martin Luther King.
02:45:50.000I thought he might rise on the third day and then go and join Bin Laden's sons in Osama Bin Laden for some martinis on an island somewhere.
02:45:58.000With the Bush family, you've got to look at everything as though it's The Matrix, the movie The Matrix, but believe very little what you see and almost nothing of what you hear.
02:46:06.000A lot of people look at your work, Wayne, and I've got to, you know, as a Objective Reporter, I've got to ask this question.
02:46:13.000People look at your work and it's constantly bringing up unnamed sources, unnamed sources.
02:46:18.000Do you find you have a hard time trying to defend your intelligence not being able to actually have sources that can be named and information that can be documented?
02:46:27.000No, as a matter of fact, I do not name sources and that means I get many more because the minute they're named, of course, The neocon machine will attack them, attack their families.
02:46:55.000You know what the capabilities are here.
02:46:57.000I mean, I guess they really wanted to find these sources.
02:46:59.000Couldn't you eventually lead the right to the source?
02:47:02.000I mean, here's what I'm really thinking is I work with a lot of whistleblowers, people that take this chance every day.
02:47:07.000They could be picked off or knocked off every time they open their mouths.
02:47:11.000I mean, isn't it important that somebody could actually speak out, say for instance, on behalf of the USS Coal Bombing, if they can actually give us real intelligence and information that an Israeli submarine took down the coal?
02:47:22.000I mean, wouldn't that be worth getting some type of protection for and standing out?
02:47:25.000I mean, once you go public, aren't you safe, to some extent?
02:47:29.000Well, you know, in one way you may be, but in the other way, you know...
02:47:33.000You know, the minute you go public, who's going to be on you?
02:47:54.000Russ Tice from the NSA came forward, and of course he was accused of being crazy.
02:48:00.000Uh, and, uh, you know, Sybil Edmonds came forward, uh, with her story about the FBI and she was accused of all kinds of things and, uh, uh, but, uh, not everybody's willing to go through that because a lot of people value their privacy.
02:48:13.000A lot of people, uh, uh, for one reason or another do not want their names plastered all over the The media then be attacked by the likes of Karl Rove, you know, these cowards.
02:48:24.000Wayne, we're going to go to break here.
02:48:25.000I have a few minutes on the other side.
02:48:26.000I'd sure like you to stay aboard and give us your analysis on what's going on in Israel right now in the Middle East.
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02:53:03.000Holding them because they said they wanted Palestinian women and children released from custody.
02:53:07.000Now the mere fact that Israel is holding children as prisoners is a grotesque violation of international law and any kind of semblance of human decency.
02:53:19.000So how does Israel respond to these kidnappings?
02:53:23.000major attacks against civilian targets in Gaza and now in Lebanon.
02:53:29.000And as far as I'm concerned, and I think as far as people I know who work in international security, attacking an international airport while planes are landing, taking off, and taxing is an act of international terrorism in Israel.
02:53:44.000I mean, I think right now that if any, and they also, I said, you know, yesterday I wrote, I said, God help if one of the missiles goes astray and hits one of the fuel, aviation fuel storage tanks there because there's small hotels and residences very close to those tanks.
02:54:01.000Well, last night Israel actually purposefully hit those fuel tanks.
02:54:08.000citizens on board those planes... Well, they also hit a residential building as well.
02:54:12.000Well, you've got Lufthansa, you've got Air France, you've got Turkish Airways, Greek Olympic Airways, all these planes, people are stranded at the airport.
02:54:23.000There are people on planes as these bombs are being dropped on the runway.
02:54:26.000There are American citizens on those planes and in that terminal, and I think for Bush to defend that action, he abrogated his responsibility to protect American citizens, and instead he was justifying this illegal attack on Beirut.
02:54:40.000They do seem to be backpedaling a little bit, at least today, hearing Condoleezza Rice come out of the State Department saying that it's not okay now to hit civilian targets, but I think they're just covering their butts.
02:54:50.000It's a little late, and of course John Bolton vetoed the U.N.
02:54:54.000Security Council resolution condemning those attacks, so again, it looks like this administration doesn't speak with one voice, and so when Ben-Gurion Airport is hit in retaliation, I don't really think we need to hear Israel complain because, you know, You know, they're the ones that say they have the right to do this.
02:55:12.000Well, if a Syrian plane is hit, or an Iranian plane is hit, and Ben-Gurion Airport is attacked, you know, hey, sorry you guys, you guys started it.
02:55:49.000You know, attacks on Syria, attacks on Iran, and then the whole place blows up.
02:55:54.000One way to get around the military opposition here in this country, the congressional opposition, is to have a backdoor war or get suckered into a war.