Latest episode of Conspiracy Theories: Live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones is joined by Ralph Shoman, who has lived all over the world and has seen some of the most sinister things going on in the world. Israel launches its deepest ground strike in Lebanon, Iran refuses to back down in its nuclear standoff with the United Nation's Security Council, and a 9/11 panel suspects deception by the U.S. government.
00:00:56.000This guy has Literally been all over the world and seen government black operations close up.
00:01:04.000He has lived in Palestinian refugee camps and he'll be giving us a eyewitness view of exactly the type of things that go on over there on a regular basis coming up in the second hour today.
00:01:20.000Israel has launched its deepest Lebanon strikes yet.
00:01:26.000Israel launched It's deepest ground strike into Lebanon on Wednesday, claiming it killed 10 Hezbollah guerrillas and captured 5 in the northeast city of Balabeck, if I'm pronouncing that right, while nearby air raids killed at least 15 civilians.
00:01:43.000So, that means that Israel has ground forces now in the northeast of Lebanon.
00:01:53.000Amazing, and so they're talking about going all the way up to the border of Syria, obviously Syria now yesterday going to its highest alert and saying prepare for battle.
00:02:03.000Israeli war planes attacked a Lebanese army base in the southern part of the country, killing three soldiers, a security official said.
00:02:09.000Hezbollah guerrillas hit back, firing at least 150 rockets at towns across northern Israel, killing one person and wounding at least 17.
00:02:17.000Israeli police stated more on this after the break on what the Israelis are doing in the Hezbollah bombardment.
00:02:26.000Iran is saying it will not bow to threats in its nuclear standoff.
00:02:31.000Ahmadinejad is saying, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed last night that Iran will not bow to the language of force and threats a day after UN Security Council ordered the country to halt sensitive nuclear work.
00:02:46.000The big news, a 9-11 panel suspected deception by the Pentagon.
00:02:53.000Allegations brought to Inspector General.
00:02:56.000They were considering criminal charges for cover-ups.
00:02:59.000That grabs your attention, and then you find out what the supposed sensitive info in the cover-up is, and it's that the Pentagon and NORAD screwed up on 9-11.
00:03:11.000No, they didn't screw up and now they've released more of the NORAD tapes.
00:03:16.000There were literally hundreds of hours from all the different NORAD bases and FAA bases.
00:03:22.000Thousands of feet of tape and digital recordings were ordered, destroyed, and put in different waste paper baskets.
00:03:29.000And so, now almost five years later, they release this new little bunching of tidbits, these little giblets.
00:03:39.000And then you find out the cover-up is they screwed up!
00:03:42.000So, see, they're falling back on that.
00:03:44.000And they even say in the Washington Post and Vanity Fair articles today on this subject that Oh, well this is why the conspiracy theorists think the government did it, but now the tapes released show the government didn't do it, it just shows that they're a bunch of idiots.
00:03:59.000And it was easy to predict they would do this as we continued to expose their criminal activities on 9-11.
00:04:05.000This is the same government that releases fake cell phone calls that are impossible.
00:04:10.000from the supposed hijacked planes, the same government that releases fake fat bin laden videotapes and re-edits old bin laden videotapes, the same people that plant fake news in the tune of billions of dollars in our media.
00:04:25.000So we'll get into that and play some clips from the News Select.
00:04:31.000They released just Maybe 15 minutes of tapes of the hundreds of hours of chatter they've got.
00:04:38.000They've selectively grabbed NORAD controllers who weren't part of the 9-11 attacks, who are confused, who think it's part of a, quote, exercise.
00:04:46.000But there is the discussions of the CIA NORAD exercises hidden in plain view, which do point towards government involvement, but the media is in overdrive, spinning all of this.
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00:08:12.000Ralph Shoman, who's lived in the Palestinian refugee camp, has been under bombardment, who has witnessed the civilians being deliberately targeted, will be joining us coming up in the second hour.
00:08:25.000In the third hour today, I'm going to play the complete NORAD clips I guess it's about 15 minutes or so.
00:08:34.000I'm going to attempt to play all of those in the third hour and a more balanced interview that a local television station up in Minnesota did with Kevin Barrett, the Wisconsin professor who they're trying to drum out of his professorship to create a chilling effect to set the precedent the Wisconsin professor who they're trying to drum out of his professorship to create a chilling effect to set the precedent to fire anyone that
00:09:01.000So the third hour is going to be very important, and we'll intersperse those clips with your calls.
00:09:07.000There is a huge whitewash going on right now with the federal government releasing very select clips from NORAD.
00:09:18.000Remember there's NORAD bases and FAA bases and communications with NORAD all over the country.
00:09:24.000They ordered hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of tapes and digital recordings to be destroyed, which was illegal, and to break them up and put them in different pieces and different waste paper baskets.
00:09:36.000They ordered the data recorders, the flight recorders that were found at all the crash sites to be hidden, and those that found them in the rescue teams to shut up and not to tell anyone that they saw them.
00:09:51.000They have produced fake cell phone calls, which are clearly fake from some of the aircraft.
00:09:58.000The same folks that again bring you the fat Bin Laden, and they did a voice print, it isn't Bin Laden, taking credit for 9-11.
00:10:04.000It's the same government that spent $1.6 billion illegally in the last two years on fake newscasts, and $118 million separately with the Pentagon, with fake letters to the editor.
00:10:16.000$118 million dollar program for fake Letters to the editor.
00:10:22.000Okay, so we have a government, and I could go on for hours listing all the examples of the lies, the propaganda, premeditatedly lying to you.
00:10:31.000Well, I've listened to these tapes, and a few of these clips had already actually been released.
00:10:34.000Vanity Fair is claiming this is all brand new.
00:10:36.000One of the clips is actually in my film, Martial Law, but now they've released more of the, in total, hundreds of hours, because you've got NORAD and FAA discussions going on for three hours total.
00:10:48.000during the attacks and in the aftermath and again hundreds of different installations so it's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours and so they take a few clips from real installations that are confused that don't know what's going on that think it's quote part of the CIA drills part of the NORAD drills and uh... who are confused and then they announce the headline oh people covered up at the pentagon NORAD covered up how they screwed up we're considering criminal charges
00:11:17.000And now they'll probably at least discuss or maybe even haul up a few low-level NORAD controllers who were compartmentalized and didn't know this was being orchestrated from the bowels of the private-slash-corporate government intelligence agencies.
00:11:33.000And this just happens over and over again.
00:11:35.000It's like the Abu Ghraib torture and the torture going on in all those other camps in Iraq.
00:11:40.000Every wing where the torture was going on, regular military officers weren't allowed in those areas.
00:11:44.000Private contractors and CIA slash Mossad controllers, this is all admitted now, would control military police who had been specifically hired out of U.S.
00:11:56.000prisons who'd been fired for torturing, raping, and abusing.
00:12:03.000They go hire sickos off their files, they bring them there, they do all this torture, and then when it starts coming out, General Janice Karpinski, who didn't go along with it, they try to burn her and blame her with it, knowing then when she gets investigated, she'll be found not guilty, because of course she knew nothing about it, as she testified on this broadcast when she first went public, what, six months ago or so, that she wasn't even allowed in the wings of those prisons!
00:12:29.000So, they'll try to burn some innocent NORAD employees and some innocent military people.
00:12:36.000And then, oh yeah, no wonder the conspiracy theorists thought it was an inside job, because NORAD screwed up so bad.
00:12:44.000Vanity Fair and the Washington Post are saying, this explains... the public can't believe it took hours and hours to get planes up, but now this explains it all.
00:12:58.000And they even say in one of these articles that this is being released for the conspiracy theorists, because we're gaining so much ground!
00:13:05.000Lee Hamilton is in a major newspaper newswire yesterday, one of the chairmen of the 9-11 whitewash commission, saying that he's surprised that so many people think it's an inside job, and that it is spreading, and that And that there's all-time mistrust of the government, and they've got a real problem!
00:13:38.000Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com right now on the Vanity Fair article, but we'll play them here on air in the third hour.
00:13:43.000Right now, before I get into more detail on this and read part of the Vanity Fair article and the Washington Post headline, 9-11 panel, suspected deception by Pentagon, before we do that, let's go ahead and roll the first three minutes that they have released.
00:14:27.000And then all throughout this, it takes them a long time to figure out, because the CIA, through the Pentagon, Protective Service, was running a drill of hijacked jets flying in to the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, CIA headquarters, White House, and Capitol Hill.
00:14:45.000Now imagine, the biggest war game of its type ever, at that exact same time that morning, Same thing in Oklahoma City.
00:14:54.000BATF is running a drill of the building being bombed as it happens.
00:16:19.000In case other police agencies or other compartments that aren't terrorists, the majority of our police and military, catch them in the act, oh, it's just part of the drill.
00:16:27.000Like when the FSB Federal Security Bureau in 1999 was caught inside of a fourth Moscow suburb apartment building.
00:16:40.000Moscow police caught two members of the FSB and three guys in a car outside planting hexogen military grade explosives on the pillars.
00:16:49.000They arrested them, and Putin ordered their release as Vice President and said it was just a drill.
00:19:37.000Did you hear one of the controllers say, I've never seen so much real world during an exercise?
00:19:46.000That's because during these classified exercises, they have actual government operatives onboard planes who go through the motions of hijacking the aircraft.
00:19:57.000Oh, and it went real this day, didn't it?
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00:24:42.000He had taken the power away for the first time since NORAD was set up in 1957 from the generals, from the admirals, from the colonels, so they couldn't shoot down planes.
00:24:53.000And so now they've gotten a few clips of a few NORAD controllers, they're all over the country, and a few FAA controllers having conversations Back and forth with each other about trying to get fighters to scramble.
00:25:05.000Well, the fighters were standing down, and those that were launched were ordered to fly at stall speed, what 360-something miles an hour for an F-16.
00:25:25.000They just, oh, there was a major cover-up!
00:25:27.000We considered criminal charges, but we didn't charge anybody, nor out of the FAA, for covering up how they screwed up!
00:25:37.000So let's play from the middle of that first clip again, where one of the NORAD controllers is there talking about, I've never seen so much real world during an exercise.
00:25:48.000Like, I can't believe there's all these real hijacked planes and we're running an exercise of this same thing happening.
00:27:29.000And probably right now, with what's going on in the cockpit, it's probably going to be crazy.
00:27:34.000So that will simmer down and we'll probably get some better information.
00:27:39.000Folks, inside of these passenger jetliners, inside the mechanical guts, are the transponders that give each blip on the radar screen a number. are the transponders that give each blip on the radar However, But simultaneously all four transponders turned off with military coordination.
00:28:05.000Something that I've been told by pilots that most pilots don't even know how to turn their transponders off.
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00:33:17.000Coming up in a few minutes, I'm going to get into 9-11 panels, suspected deception by Pentagon, allegations brought to Inspector General.
00:33:29.000And Vanity Fair is putting out the same whitewash.
00:33:33.000You see, the government knows they've lost all credibility.
00:33:35.000And they also know that people inside the government who weren't part of the attacks, but now are very suspicious because of what they witnessed that day at NORAD, with the drills of the exact same targets being hit at the exact same time, they have to put something out that will sound like they're in trouble, sound like they've been caught in something.
00:34:20.000They're trying to provoke World War III, my friends, along with Bush and the British and others.
00:34:26.000And we'll get into that more later and take your phone calls.
00:34:30.000And Ralph Shoman is joining us the next hour.
00:34:32.000He's lived in the refugee camps with the Palestinians and others.
00:34:36.000And we'll just wait until I get to his bio, the things he's witnessed in his life.
00:34:40.000It's extremely historical and riveting.
00:34:43.000And in the third hour, I'm going to play about 15 minutes.
00:34:46.000I'm going to play the entirety of what the government's released of the NORAD tapes.
00:34:51.000I heard here for the first time on the radio and several other audio clips as well.
00:34:55.000Kevin Barrett on a television show where he was really actually able to get some information out about 9-11 being an inside job instead of being screamed at by Sean Hannity.
00:35:04.000That is coming up in the third hour and we'll have open phones then as well too.
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00:35:13.000Marty, of course, is the second generation.
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00:36:21.000We really appreciate you coming on, Marty.
00:36:24.000Tell us about your company, tell us why your soap is so good, and tell us why it's so different, and now how the public is able to get this.
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00:39:17.000Well, sometimes we'll be on vacation and, you know, use the hotel washing machine, and if my children wear clothes that have been washed and tied or other detergents, They get little red rashes.
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00:41:01.000I guess Marty's been a sponsor for six months now.
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00:45:06.0009-1-1 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon.
00:45:10.000Some staff members and commissioners of the September 11th panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it Reached and reacted to the 2001 terror attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the Commission and the public rather than a reflection on the fog of events on that day according to sources involved in the debate.
00:45:37.000Excuse me, I've got something stuck in my throat.
00:45:40.0009-1-1 panel suspected deception by Pentagon Allegations brought to Inspector General.
00:45:49.000Some staff members and commissioners of the September 11th panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terror attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the Commission and the public, rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.
00:46:13.000And then you read into the article and it's really a mountain out of a molehill.
00:46:20.000They're saying, oh, the Pentagon covered up how screwed up their response was and how badly coordinated because they were embarrassed and because they didn't want to be shown as a bunch of imbeciles.
00:46:39.000The Pentagon was told, with NORAD, to carry out the biggest hijacking drill in world history, before that time and after that time, on the morning of September 11th.
00:46:52.000In the two weeks before 9-11, they were having multiple drills every day, not just the drills that day.
00:46:57.000In the year before the event, they were having drills every month, and so they were constantly hearing about hijack jets, constantly hearing about You know, how to respond.
00:47:11.000Constantly seeing the Pentagon, and the World Trade Center, and the CIA, and the FBI headquarters, and the White House, and Capitol Hill, and the Sears Tower, and the insurance building there in San Francisco, the Travelers Building.
00:47:32.000All of this happening And then you had able danger programs, anti-terror training ops, where there were real life military intelligence officers for months before going on board planes, seeing if they could sneak box cutters on, seeing if they could sneak fake bombs on.
00:47:59.000We've got these supposed hijackers, the few who were actually on there, whose names really did appear, and who we know supposedly were at least seen at the airports.
00:48:09.000Most of them have been found to still be alive.
00:48:11.000And the few, the 10 or 12, depending on which article you look at, who were actually at least around the airport.
00:49:39.000Every time the FBI is about to pounce and arrest them, they're told, back off, back off, back off.
00:49:44.000Then, for later plausible deniability, they have a few mentally ill Low-grade moron, real terrorists who've been recruited by the government, who don't know they're being handled by Arabic-speaking U.S.
00:49:57.000government agents to carry out terror.
00:50:00.000The people doing that think they're running a sting operation, and then all it takes is a small group that actually hijack those jets by remote control and flow them into those buildings.
00:50:10.000Now, there it is laid out how it happened.
00:50:13.000And then even in this new whitewash they release that, oh we screwed up, you caught us red-handed.
00:50:18.000Yeah, we covered up, but it isn't what you thought.
00:50:29.000And then even in the tapes they do release, the hundreds of hours they've got, they decide to release these tapes that kind of In some ways back up their story, but even in those tapes, it's the controllers at NORAD going, I've never seen so much real world during the exercise.
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00:55:02.000Could it have shot down Flight 93, as conspiracy theorists claim?
00:55:07.000Obtaining 30 hours of never-before-released tapes from the control room of NORAD's Northeast Headquarters, the author reconstructs the chaotic military history of that day and the Pentagon's apparent attempt to cover it up.
00:55:21.000Now again, this is written like it's a big expose.
00:55:26.000The government has hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours of NORAD and FAA tapes, because again, there are dozens and dozens and dozens of different flight centers communicating with each other.
00:55:39.000They admit they have hundreds of hours.
00:55:41.000They release 30 hours to Vanity Fair, and Vanity Fair releases, I don't know, what is this, less than 20 minutes of it.
00:55:49.000But buried in there, they're talking about the drills, and I've never seen, quote, so much real world during an exercise.
00:55:57.000So this is written like it's an expose, but really it, um, It attempts to destroy the idea that the government was involved in the attacks, but you know where you're looking.
00:56:09.000If you know where you're looking, it does the complete opposite, and affirms that there's hijackers on the planes, and all of this is going on.
00:56:22.000It's like the Pentagon releasing to Judicial Watch, and Judicial Watch comes out and says, we're releasing this to destroy the myth That a large passenger plane didn't hit the Pentagon.
00:56:35.000And then they show the tape, and it's two more views from the same parking lot just a few yards away.
00:56:42.000Because they have like four or five lanes, I guess, going in and going out.
00:56:46.000So it's each little spot, you know, as you drive through the gates there.
00:56:53.000As you drive through, it takes pictures of your car for security purposes.
00:56:58.000They just released two more angles of the exact same thing and it creates more of a debate, more questions swirling around that now.
00:57:29.000They don't want us to focus on the CIA and NORAD running drills of hijacked jets hitting the exact same targets.
00:57:36.000They don't want us to focus on bin Laden being a known CIA asset or seven to nine of the hijackers still being alive, BBC.
00:57:47.000They don't want us to focus on the U.S.
00:57:48.000troops already massed in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.
00:57:53.000They don't want you to focus on any of that.
00:57:58.000They don't want you to focus on the history of government-sponsored terror.
00:58:01.000Our own government has carried out terror attacks and admitted it against foreign countries and our own country to blame it on their enemies time and time again.
00:58:11.000Now, I'm not criticizing anyone who is talking about the Pentagon.
00:58:15.000We've talked about it, we've covered it.
00:58:16.000I just have simply said, why is it the lion's share of the focus and why does the media choose to predominantly focus on it?
01:00:08.000I know that the big banks created communism, but his experiences and the things he's seen and the ideas he has, a lot of them are extremely valid, and so he's here to share those experiences with us, and I've known him to be a truthful and honest person in the information he relays to you.
01:00:26.000So we're honored to have him with us today.
01:00:28.000Ralph Shulman, thank you for coming on.
01:00:36.000That's the way to dismiss ideas without having to consider them.
01:00:39.000Yeah, I'm not dismissing your ideas, sir, and I appreciate your courage, the places and things you've seen and done.
01:00:46.000I totally reject the paradigm that we're even given, and I know that you were into some of that more leftward stuff back in the 60s.
01:00:54.000You've kind of expanded on from that point.
01:00:59.000Just because it's so interesting and it speaks to your credibility just as a historical lens or window, tell us about some of the experiences of your life first so we know who Ralph Shulman is.
01:01:10.000Well, I mean, with reference to the question of Palestine, we've been involved for a very long time in building a movement in opposition to the colonization of Palestine.
01:01:21.000And as you indicated, Alex, the Zionist movement is a colonial settler movement.
01:01:28.000From its inception, the intention was to remove the indigenous population.
01:01:33.000What distinguishes Zionism from the normal or usual colonial project in Africa, Asia, or Latin America was that this was not just about that 1% of the population that owns 95% of the national wealth in the United States seeking to seize the resources of subject peoples or to create slave labor conditions to exploit their labor.
01:01:57.000The Zionist project was about replacing the indigenous labor force.
01:02:02.000The mantra under which Zionist colonization was launched was a land without a people for a people without a land.
01:02:10.000Pretending that no one lived in Palestine and projecting on behalf of its imperial sponsors because we have to remember that the Zionist movement began in the late 19th century amongst middle class, in fact upper middle class Jews who had despaired of struggling against the repressive and reactionary and exploitative regimes of the time that were deeply anti-semitic and persecutory not only of Jews but in particular of Jews.
01:02:39.000And these Zionists sought to gain the support of the Tsar and of Russian imperialism and of French and British and American imperialism, German imperialism, to create an outpost for those imperial powers In which they would remove the indigenous population and form a kind of shock troop to undermine the movement for national independence in the Arab East.
01:03:04.000So they appealed to all of these regimes for financial and military support.
01:03:08.000And they got the support from England.
01:03:10.000They got it from all of them, and they certainly got it from England, but the primary sponsor was the United States because it was the United States that, with Stalin, Actually, organized the partitioning of Palestine over the heads of the Palestinian people.
01:03:24.000Now, in 1947, when the UN partitioned Palestine... Stay there, Ralph, because I particularly ask you to go over some of your background first.
01:03:32.000When we get back, can we start over there?
01:03:37.000Folks, I try to bring you different perspectives, different views, different ideas, and Ralph has witnessed quite a lot of his long life, and this should be quite informative.
01:03:47.000We'll be back on the other side of this quick break.
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01:07:24.000In the last 45-50 years, he's witnessed many of the great upheavals.
01:07:30.000He knew Malcolm X, he knew Che Guevara.
01:07:33.000He also headed up one of the international organizations that exposed the Kennedy assassination as an inside job carried out by our own government.
01:07:43.000Ralph, before we get into Palestine and living there in the refugee camps and the history of what Israel really is and who controls it, Tell us a little bit about yourself first.
01:07:54.000I want to go back over some of your life experiences, please.
01:07:58.000I suppose, you know, when I was in Great Britain, I was the executive director of the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation, and we were involved in negotiations direct to my own experience with about 40 heads of state on a variety of questions.
01:08:15.000I was secretary general of the International Tribunal on U.S.
01:08:21.000I was director of the Vietnam Solidarity Campaign at the time, which had 60 member organizations, and we were also very much involved in arranging the release and negotiating the release of political prisoners in over 40 countries over that time frame.
01:08:41.000Any of the struggles that involved the oppressed and their resistance to colonial and imperial occupation and exploitation The struggles in which we were engaged over these decades, as you mentioned.
01:08:55.000With reference to the question of Palestine, I think it's important for us to understand that at the time that the United Nations partitioned Palestine over the heads of the Palestinian people, through the promotion of this project by Harry Truman in conjunction with Joseph Stalin, The Jewish Agency presented a map of what it called the Land of Israel to the Special Committee of the United Nations for the Partitioning of Palestine.
01:09:25.000That map was based on the diaries of Theodor Herzl, Volume 2 in 1902, and the map which projected what was the Land of Israel included all of Palestine, all of Jordan, One-third of Arabia, Egypt up to the Nile including Cairo, one-third of Syria, two-thirds of Iraq, the southern tier of Turkey and Kuwait, Eretz Israel.
01:09:49.000This project was implemented almost immediately, even before the state itself was formed in May of 1948.
01:09:57.000The series of massacres that were unfolded in villages and towns across Palestine drove out nearly 800,000 people out of a population of 930,000.
01:10:13.000The Zionists had obtained only 3% of the land by purchasing it from absentee Turkish landowners.
01:10:20.000Through the partitioning of Palestine, the UN handed them 55% of the most fertile land.
01:10:27.000Even before the formation of the state, they had seized 93% of the land.
01:10:32.000They now have control over 475 Palestinian towns and villages.
01:10:41.000Mr. Shulman, let's stop right there for just a moment if we can.
01:10:45.000Because people think that the Palestinians and the Arabs in that area just hate Israel for no reason.
01:10:52.000They don't understand that this openly happened.
01:10:54.000And then if Arabs wouldn't move out, they would openly bomb their homes, car bomb their houses.
01:11:00.000That's really where the Arabs and the Palestinians picked up on counter-bombing.
01:11:04.000And then today, we hear the neocons on talk radio now saying, There are no innocent children.
01:11:10.000Go ahead and just kill everybody in Lebanon.
01:11:13.000There are major papers, in fact I have one in a printout here, one of the major Israeli papers, with the head rabbi saying that everyone can be killed in this war, that we need to just go ahead and take everything.
01:11:24.000And yes, I've seen the map that they openly promote where Israel's got like half the Middle East.
01:11:29.000This is madness, and you're a Jewish American yourself, most Jews that I know are totally against what's happening, but if that's the case then, how is Israel able to continue in the things that they're doing, the genocidal activities that Americans aren't even aware of?
01:11:48.000Well, Alex, you hit the nail on the head here.
01:11:52.000First of all, of course, I mean, yes, my parents were Hungarian Jews.
01:11:55.000I have no religious convictions myself.
01:11:58.000In fact, you're a Holocaust survivor, aren't you?
01:12:02.000No, no, about 70 members of my family were exterminated.
01:12:06.000But the irony of that, Alex, is that the Zionist movement were the active collaborators with the Nazis.
01:12:12.000No, we have the official publications they wrote, big magazines and letters.
01:12:18.000They supported all of the reactionary anti-Semitic regimes.
01:12:22.000They colluded with them in ridding Europe of its Jews because they had in mind a colonial project in Palestine.
01:12:28.000Although they actively resisted and opposed and sabotaged any attempts for persecuted Jews to escape Europe to the United States or Canada or Great Britain or Australia, They were totally collusive in preventing that, but that's a large question that I'd certainly like to address.
01:12:47.000It's addressed in my book, The Hidden History of Zionism, and in other books that I've written together with Maya Schoen, my wife.
01:12:56.000Alex, I'd like to mention that we're actually holding a meeting for your listeners in Northern California in Berkeley on August 17th at 7pm.
01:13:08.000and israeli master plan for the middle east which will take place at the unitarian universalist fellowship hall in Berkeley, 1924 CEDA, so I'd encourage your listeners to attend that.
01:13:20.000There's another event here in Austin tonight at the Universalist Church.
01:13:24.000They're going to be showing my film, Martial Law.
01:13:29.000I want to go back now, because I really have studied the history of this.
01:13:33.000The Arabs, the Palestinians, were extremely peaceful.
01:13:37.000Palestine was one of the more peaceful and productive There were Jews living there.
01:13:43.000They got along extremely well with the Palestinians.
01:13:48.000Contrary to popular belief, Muslims actually revere Jews and obviously think that the first big prophet is Abraham and then Moses.
01:14:00.000That's why you always hear the Arabs say, the Zionists, the Zionists, the Zionists.
01:14:05.000And so really again what we've seen the Labor Zionists and the Likudniks now do in Palestine has actually turned the Arab world against Jews and I also found the documents and it's admitted that our government went in at the end of World War II and actually found the more Wahhabi as radical Muslim sects to try to put them in power to actually put military heat on the Jews to keep a military government in control of Israel so that they could continue to fight and then have the pretext to expand Israel.
01:14:38.000Look, the Jews in Palestine who were indigenous were wholly integrated within Palestinian society, as they were throughout the Arab East.
01:14:47.000In fact, if you meet a Jew from Yemen or North Africa or from Iraq, you're talking to an Arab who happens to have Jewish religious convictions.
01:15:07.000The head of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, George Habash, was a Christian.
01:15:13.000The head of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Nayef Hawatneh, was a Seventh-Day Adventist.
01:15:19.000The main, one of the principal representatives of the PLO in Paris, Ilan Halave, was an Oriental Jew.
01:15:26.000Maya and myself have lived in the Palestinian camps, worked with the Executive Committee of the PLO.
01:15:30.000We lived throughout the Palestinian camps in Lebanon during the siege and occupation of 82.
01:15:36.000The Palestinians could care less about who's a Jew, who's a Muslim, who's a Christian.
01:15:40.000The city of Ramallah in the West Bank is almost entirely a Christian city.
01:15:45.000It voted overwhelmingly in support of Hamas.
01:15:47.000I know, but Americans believe that all Arabs have giant 15-foot daggers and will literally cut all Christians' heads off and suck their blood out.
01:15:56.000I mean, they think Arabs want to kill everyone and make everyone convert to Islam, and that is a total lie, unless you're talking about the Sudan.
01:16:51.000I know that the Israelis like to do it on certain dates to publicly be able to take credit for it, while at the same time denying it.
01:16:58.000You know, Maya and I, in 1982, here's an irony for you, Alex.
01:17:04.000The invasion of Lebanon in 1982 proceeded under the rubric of Peace in the Galilee.
01:17:11.000Now, the inhabitants of the Galilee, as the real Galileans, had been driven out of the Galilee by the Zionists in 1947 and 1948 through massacre.
01:17:21.000The survivors had regrouped in the refugee camp called Ein el Helwe, which means Sweet Spring on the outskirts of Saida.
01:17:29.000There are about 100,000 of the Palestinians from the northern Galilean areas of Palestine who were driven out in 1947 and 1948.
01:17:38.000In 1982, the Zionists took Einar Helloway as a grid.
01:17:57.000The bulldozers not only closed off the shelters where people were seeking refuge from the bombs, but they buried these people alive.
01:18:05.000The mass graves in I Know Hellway were such that the bodies formed rivulets of body fluids, little rivers of body fluids that were flowing across I Know Hellway up to Sidon.
01:18:18.000The body fluids actually invaded the offices of the International Committee of the Red Cross who moved their offices and didn't write a mumbling word.
01:18:29.000These massacres were recreated in Rashadiyah, in Al-Bath, in Mia Mia, in Burj Al-Brajni, not to mention Sabra and Shatila.
01:18:39.000Well, sir, we have major Israeli papers today saying that they can kill every man, woman, and child.
01:18:45.000They're actually saying that those people are not human.
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01:23:02.000The Yishuv Rabbinical Council, during time of war, enemy has no innocence.
01:23:09.000And this is out of the Ynet News, a big Israeli publication over there.
01:23:16.000It says the Yishuv, I'm pronouncing that right, Rabbinical Council announced its response to an IDF attack.
01:23:23.000On the village, according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as innocence of the enemy.
01:23:29.000All of the discussion on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us the blood of our soldiers and civilians, the statement said.
01:23:41.000I mean, I've got a bunch of Israeli newspapers saying similar things, just saying, look, we're allowed to kill everybody, and we're going to, but then in our news, we hear that Israel lovingly doesn't want to target any civilians, and it's all an accident when they shoot rockets right through the Red Cross symbols on the vehicles.
01:24:00.000Well, let me quote to you from the Labor-History of the General Federation of Workers publication, Davar, Describing the process through which the Israeli state was created.
01:24:13.000Quote, this is about the massacre in Douaima.
01:24:16.000And there were massacres in every village and town across suffering Palestine.
01:24:20.000Quote, they killed between 80 to 100 Palestinian men, women, children.
01:24:25.000To kill the children, they fractured their heads with sticks.
01:24:28.000There was not one home without corpses.
01:24:30.000The men and women of the villages were pushed into houses without food or water.
01:24:34.000Then the saboteurs came to dynamite them.
01:24:37.000Commanders ordered soldiers to bring women into the buildings they were about to blow up.
01:24:41.000They prided themselves on raping the Arab women before shooting them to death.
01:24:46.000An Arab woman with her newborn baby was made to clean the place for a couple of days, and then they shot her and the baby.
01:24:52.000Educated and well-mannered commanders who were considered good guys became base murderers, and this not in the storm of battle, but as a method of expulsion and extermination.
01:25:04.000The fewer the Arabs who remain, the better." That's the process through which all of Palestine was colonized.
01:25:14.000Major pro-war Israeli papers are saying, don't listen to Americans, and don't listen to Christians and others that say we shouldn't kill everybody.
01:25:26.000And then, I mean, how do the Israelis...
01:25:29.000You know, expect the Arabs not to want to fight them with their tinker toy weapons.
01:25:34.000Well, if anybody would resist the occupation and destruction of their entire population, let me quote to you from Raphael Aitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Armed Forces.
01:25:43.000We declare openly that the Palestinians have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel.
01:25:50.000Force is all they do or ever will understand, and we shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours.
01:25:59.000And here is his statement before the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.
01:26:03.000When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do is scurry around like drug roaches in a bottle.
01:26:11.000David Ben-Gurion was the so-called George Washington or founder of the Israeli state.
01:26:17.000Here he is writing to his son in 1938.
01:26:21.000A partial Jewish state is only the beginning.
01:26:23.000We cannot be prevented from occupying other parts of the country and the region.
01:26:31.000The boundaries of Zionist aspiration, he told the World Council of Poil Zion in Tel Aviv, include all of Lebanon, all of Syria, today's Jordan, all of East Jordan, the West Bank, and the Sinai.
01:26:43.000After we become a strong force as the result of the creation of the state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.
01:26:51.000The state is only a stage in the realization of Zionism, and its task is to prepare the ground for our expansion.
01:26:59.000The state will preserve order not by preaching, but with machine guns.
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01:34:24.000You will learn how the Reichstag fire, the Gulf of Tonkin, and the U.S.-backed Iranian coup of 53 all were incorporated False Flag Terror Events, all interconnected false flag terror events.
01:34:37.000The powerful documentary explores the mindsets of the average brainwashed westerner and delves deeply into the systems of control which have systematically been crafted to imprison their minds and keep their eyes closed to the realities of the world around them.
01:34:52.000Special features include over an hour of a 9-11 symposium in L.A.
01:34:57.000from four camera shoots, Charlie Sheen's speech, part of the panel discussion, and a lot more, and film trailers from my past films.
01:35:05.000It is over three hours long when the official DVD comes out in two weeks, but you cannot wait.
01:35:13.000You can get the film itself For $19.95 on DVD.
01:35:17.000Order that one to support us, and then order the official one when it comes out.
01:35:39.000And the power of you, the listeners, taking action, grassroots, force-multiply, getting the DVD, making 10, 15 copies, it's so easy, on your DVD burner, or dump them to VHS tape, Give them to people, tell them to research the information in the films.
01:35:57.000When they find out the films are accurate and true, all of my films, then to make copies of the film themselves and pass it on.
01:36:05.000That's what we've been doing, and that's how we're beginning to really bring the official 9-11 fraud to its knees.
01:36:11.000And one more program note, C-SPAN for the fourth time aired our 9-11 Neocon Symposium Roundtable discussion yesterday.
01:36:19.000It got hyped all over the web, all over radio, all over the place, and on C-SPAN and had a huge effect.
01:36:26.000And I want to thank all of you out there that promoted this and got the word out on it.
01:36:30.000Millions of people woke up with the four showings on C-SPAN.
01:36:35.000Going back to Ralph Shoman, a human rights activist, author, lecturer, he's been all over the world, on the front line seeing this.
01:36:41.000and he was getting into the massacres and refugee camps, but then he jumped into 9-11 being a foundational event really to expand the global war economy.
01:36:59.000In 2001, I mean, with World Trade Center Uncensored History, which is a seven-hour broadcast on WBAI, and then 9-11 in the capitalist state, 9/11 false flag operation, the smoking guns of 9/11.
01:37:14.000Like you, we've been at this non-stop since the event, but I want to mention one thing to you.
01:37:20.000You know, in 1993, and I wrote a piece about it at the time, the World Trade Center was bombed.
01:37:27.000Now, at the time of the World Trade Center bombing, it was immediately imputed to Qaeda-like figures and Osama bin Laden, yes?
01:37:38.000Emad Ali Salem, an FBI operative and a high-ranking Egyptian intelligence officer, was sent in by the FBI office in New York into the mosque of the blind Egyptian sheikh, Sheikh Omar Abdur-Rahman, both in New Jersey and in Brooklyn.
01:37:53.000He carried... he wore a wire through all these meetings.
01:37:56.000He recruited young kids to come to meetings to discuss what was happening in Egypt, the oppression in Egypt.
01:38:02.000And he had these kids on a need-to-know basis.
01:38:24.000The kids didn't even know what they were involved with.
01:38:26.000And the woman who actually arranged the bridal rent-a-van and the safe house was Guzi Hadass of the Mossad.
01:38:34.000Now, the interesting thing about all of this is that after the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, when Imad Ali Salem was arraigned, he said, well, my FBI controllers told me that they'd give me dynamite that wouldn't detonate.
01:38:50.000That's in Ralph Blumenthal's piece in the New York Times, in the LA Times, in the Village Voice.
01:39:54.000Lebanese police forces confirmed that two Israeli soldiers were captured in the southern Lebanon in the area of Ait Taa al-Shaab When an Israeli Special Forces unit had attacked the area.
01:40:08.000Here's the French news site, www.voltaire.net.org.
01:40:54.000Of all Israel's wars since 1948, this is the one for which Israel is most prepared, said Gerald Steinberg, Professor of Political Science at Bar-Ilaq University.
01:41:02.000We covered that at nauseam, and I'm glad you're bringing it up.
01:41:05.000The point here is, Israel is a war economy.
01:41:09.000Just like we are, and we've got to have wars.
01:41:14.000We know that Bush gave the ultimatum to Iran.
01:41:16.000This is the beginning of the war drums.
01:41:18.000They're hoping to go ahead and bombard Syria.
01:41:20.000The neocons went public a week ago saying our government supports an attack on Syria.
01:41:27.000They've tried to claim that the troops were taken to Iran that were captured, so we need to attack Iran.
01:41:31.000Similar to the fraud story of a month ago, two months ago, that Iran makes Jews wear yellow stars.
01:41:37.000It's like saying Saddam was throwing babies out of incubators, PR lie.
01:41:42.000We know the government spends $118 million on fake letters to the editor, $1.6 billion in fake newscasts.
01:41:48.000We know they're lying to us, so in your educated view, you've been over there, you've been watching this, I'm trying to find out what do you think Israel is trying to get out of this latest push?
01:41:59.000The latest push is about emptying the population of southern Lebanon, occupying Lebanon once again, and preparing for the dismantling of Syria and Iran ad syriatum.
01:42:09.000Look, we published in the Hidden History of Zionism the Oded Yinon Plan of 1979, a strategy for the 1980s which called for the dismantling of each Middle Eastern state into its ethnic and religious components.
01:42:24.000And they reiterated that in 1983, they want to break Iraq into three parts, Syria into two parts, Iran into six parts, and then turn each ethnic group against each other, and then have armored military citadels that just simply oversee the ethnic cleansing and extermination.
01:42:39.000But that is precisely what 9-11 was brought to facilitate.
01:42:48.000rulers had designed to deconstruct and tear apart each country in its turn, seize its resources, and it's an expression of the, you know, we're talking about a system in terminal decay here, something on the order of $79 trillion.
01:43:07.000of debt, a paper currency that isn't worth, if it were on porous paper, where it could suggest a better use for it.
01:43:13.000So they've got to have a war, as Brzezinski said in 97, to unify us, the slaves, against the quote, Central Asian Barbarians.
01:43:22.000And this is the architecture of the fascist state.
01:43:24.000As you've been documenting, as we've been with our Marshall State, the United States, with testing the waters, military rule in America, The Northern Command, all of these false flag operations which include the pandemics.
01:43:40.000You know, one of the talks that I gave in New York recently was called, From Forging 9-11 to Creating the Next Pandemic, a System Internal D-Pay.
01:43:49.000These pandemics, Alex, flow from military laboratory Manipulation of virus genomes, creating variants for which there is no immune response.
01:44:02.000I know, we have the official documents, we know they continue to do it.
01:44:05.000The PNAC document talks about legitimizing the use of race-specific bio-weapons to wipe out certain subsects of the human species.
01:44:12.000And that's where the quarantining comes in, and that's where the introduction of the military comes in, and the detention camps... That's the smokescreen for martial law, and they've now recruited in 13,000 counties pastors and preachers, telling them the pandemic's coming, the gun confiscation is coming, the mass roundup is coming, oh, it's going to be so wonderful!
01:44:32.000And who do you think has all of the ownership of the pharmaceutical companies, the Carlyle Group, and Mr. Rumsfeld, who made a 720%...
01:44:41.000Profit just on his stock holdings, and Tamiflu is the same old, same old.
01:44:45.0009-11 is... They also made money off of the antibiotic shipwreck of the anthrax attack, which they clearly launched.
01:44:53.000You know, in the marvelous book, Clouds of Secrecy, by Lester Cole, it documents 40 years of the Pentagon releasing trillions of bacilli Across the United States, in over 218 civilian sites, as the New York Times confirmed, the subway system of New York, the school systems of Minneapolis and St.
01:45:15.000Louis, Above all, in the Bay Area, in San Francisco, where I live, where there was a tent... But the government isn't a threat, Ralph.
01:45:48.000Well, of course, it must be, since Al-Qaeda is a construct of the Central Intelligence Agency.
01:45:53.000I think you ordered $6 billion handed over to Osama bin Laden and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar during operation in Afghanistan.
01:46:02.000So what we're really describing here is an assault upon our own population.
01:46:07.000All of this is preparatory to the subjugation of the mass of our working people, who produce everything of value through their labor, that is seized and sequestered, while the entire support structure, all the gains of over 100 years, are being dismantled.
01:46:43.000Every time I see communist governments get in control, they murder their population, they enslave, the Rockefellers fly in and own all their factories, and I'm telling you, every time they use well-meaning leftists to bring it to power, then they kill you guys, and then they set up their banker paradises.
01:47:23.000Now I'm asking about your solution, because the globalists created the UN, they created the communists, they're in control because they always control both sides.
01:47:32.000Now I'm asking you to sh... I know you've shattered your paradigm, you're an intelligent person, explain to me about the blessed communists.
01:47:39.000Well, let's make a distinction from the get-go.
01:47:42.000I was talking about Joseph Stalin in 1947.
01:47:46.000The Stalin regime, which is the bureaucratic dictatorship over the Soviet Union, is the result of 14 countries invading on 21 fronts after the Bolshevik insurrection, which took 10 lives, and killing over 7 million people and forming a mass famine.
01:48:02.000What we're looking at here is the project of capitalist hegemony.
01:48:06.000After all, we have about 5% of the population of the world within our national frontiers, and yet that 1% of the population that owns more than 95% of the rest of the population combined has control over 70% of the world's natural resources.
01:48:21.000Ralph, what I'm telling you is... Ralph, hold on a minute.
01:48:28.000In its human nature, It's Animal Farm.
01:48:31.000Anytime you create anything centralized, in five minutes you'll be back to the tyranny you were at.
01:48:37.000Every time the communists try to redistribute things, you get a bunch of big fat king rats ruling off people living in their villas with their racehorses and their 50 mistresses.
01:48:51.000Hey Alex, look, all this nonsense about human nature, 99% of the history of the species It was a period in which there were no hierarchies and no class dominion, in which there were, in fact, bands of cooperative people.
01:49:07.000The class rule that you're describing is about one-tenth of the history of the species over the past four to five million years.
01:49:14.000But once humans went to agrarian, centralized societies, we saw the rise of the strong men, first through the witch doctors, and then...
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01:53:18.000And you go to a smart growth conference.
01:53:21.000It's the heads of Bank of America, Bank One, former Dallas Cowboys, Mayors, Michael Dell.
01:53:28.000And they're all there, and they use the leftists to go push laws through to grab everybody's private property, the ranches, and they turn around and build luxury hotels, million-dollar houses on it, and the left just charges on ahead of it.
01:53:40.000And we've got Armand Hammer, and we've got David Rockefeller with the aluminum plants in Soviet Russia, and our government propping them up.
01:53:47.000And it's the same thing with the oligarchs over there right now in Russia.
01:53:51.000Every time one gets arrested, it turns out that the Rothschilds really own it.
01:53:56.000Mr. Shulman, you're saying that there aren't corrupt, evil communists in these regimes, and that there aren't collusion with these big financial interests?
01:54:47.000Let me address the question that you raised, Alex.
01:54:49.000Which is that the movement for democratization of the economy, for popular control over decision-making, is somehow funded by the bankers, which is ridiculous!
01:55:00.000The bankers have no relationship to the struggle of oppressed people to remove the dictatorship of capitalism.
01:55:07.000Let me counter that and explain what I'm saying.
01:55:11.000The brand of national healthcare we're going to get It's where they're going to tax all of us at exorbitant levels and then just give our money to the private institutions.
01:55:25.000These private institutions are bigger than governments, as you know.
01:55:29.00044 of the 100 biggest economies are corporations.
01:55:31.000Big corporations openly lobby for big government to extract our wealth and to then give it to themselves.
01:55:38.000And then I hear the left saying, we need big government to counter the corporations.
01:55:43.000It's not, I don't know what left you're talking about, Alex.
01:55:47.000What we're describing, we raise the question of medicine and the national health care program.
01:55:53.000It's the insurance companies that have the control over health care in the United States.
01:55:58.000We could have, look, there's a very fundamental issue here.
01:56:03.000The trillions upon trillions of dollars that are involved in the waste economy of capital exploitation are sufficient to provide Free education, free housing, free food, birthright like the air we breathe.
01:56:20.000We could wipe out every slum in the United States of a mass transit system, a national health care program, universal health care from the cradle to the grave.
01:56:32.000The productive capacity of this society is huge, but the resources are commandeered.
01:56:38.000It's a system that's based upon the anarchy of capital exploitation.
01:56:43.000So, Ralph, you deny that the global corporations actually take control of governments and expand the power of those governments through government power to suck the population dry.
01:56:54.000The state is nothing more than the cat's paw.
01:56:57.000The state is the instrument for administering.
01:56:59.000It's the collective executive committee of the capitalist ruling class.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000There can be no doubt that in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, the elite, the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, and others, funded every left-wing group you can imagine, There's no doubt they pushed for the quote social welfare net to get people dependent, to expand their control like we're domesticated animals, pigs in a trough.
01:58:27.000And there's no doubt that from the big government they've grown, they've now gotten a mechanism to extract the rest of our wealth and to ensure that we don't own any property or have any way of being independent.
01:58:38.000They've broken up the family with their CI operative Gloria Steinem, with the CI's money to set up the leftist women's movement.
01:58:47.000Ralph Shulman has done a lot of good stuff in his life.
01:58:50.000There's a lot of these well-meaning people in this who go out and fight corruption, fight oppression, do all these good things.
01:58:55.000And then, Ralph, I think your solution is a bad one in the final equation.
01:58:59.000I mean, what is the solution to the murder in Palestine, the corruption here, the fact that our government and the corporate interests will probably release some horrible pandemic on us soon.
01:59:22.000The control over the population is in the hands of banking and corporate capital.
01:59:28.000The state is its instrument, is a captured instrument.
01:59:30.000What we're seeking to do is to democratize this, to have decisions that affect people's lives under the control of the population.
01:59:39.000Bureaucracy and centralization have nothing to do with social ownership, nothing to do with the democratic control over decision-making with respect to the economy.
01:59:48.000The United Nations is nothing but a collection of countries with the same class structure as exists within the United States itself.
01:59:56.000In each of these respective societies, Alex, you have a ruling oligarchy, Well, let me ask you a question.
02:00:05.000Will we be like North Korea, and then have the son get the power from his daddy?
02:00:09.000Or maybe when the brother gets sick, the little brother takes over?
02:00:13.000I mean, look at these dirtbag communist countries!
02:01:05.000I'm saying we're not mindless army ants, and so communism would never work because we're not a communal... Communism, in your mind, Alex, is the model of Stalin.
02:01:16.000It has absolutely nothing in common with social ownership of the means of production or the democratic... Let me ask you a question, Ralph.
02:01:22.000Ralph, in your dream system, Could I own my own 100 acres?
02:01:31.000Alex, the question of ownership has to do with popular ownership and control.
02:01:47.000The issue before us, the 9-11 state, That which requires the militarization of the state, that which requires martial law, is that handful of rulers who have the need to dominate and control and exploit the mass of the population.
02:02:03.000What we're describing and what we ought to be advocating together is democratic control over decision making in the political life and in the economy of the society.
02:02:13.000So that decisions as to what is produced are made on the basis of what people need, not how people talk.
02:02:19.000Ralph, we've got to have you back on sometime to debate this.
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02:05:56.000Coming up in a few minutes, I'm going to start airing the 13 minutes we've got of what Vanity Fair posted of the tapes they got from NORAD.
02:06:12.000Well, they're openly talking about, I've never seen this much real-world stuff going on during an exercise.
02:06:19.000Because the Pentagon and the CIA were running the drills and flying hijacked jets into all the targets that got hit and more to confuse everybody.
02:06:29.000And now this is all coming out in the media, but with their big spin on it.
02:06:32.000I've got to finish up with Ralph Shulman, though.
02:06:35.000You know, the guy has done a lot of interesting work.
02:07:15.000In fact, if you want to get down to brass tacks, on one end of the spectrum, You have anarchy, and then on the other end of the spectrum you have total command and control.
02:07:26.000Anarchy is impossible in groups larger than five to ten people.
02:07:31.000So we want to be in the middle of that spectrum, a constitutional republic with a rule of law that protects the minority, the individual, as well as the majority, and you want a free market, you want private property ownership, because then that forms millions of little bulwarks against centralization.
02:07:50.000You want two different branches of the legislative branch with two different groups subdivided into that.
02:07:57.000All these different fractures, all these different facets.
02:08:00.000Then you have the courts with the state set against the federal.
02:08:04.000And then you've got the two different parties who then are appointing people to the courts.
02:08:11.000Gridlock is good to keep a Napoleon, a Hitler, from coming to power, to keep a centralization from taking place, to protect the middle class, and to allow, for the first time in history, not a perfect system, but the best system we've seen, to open things up so that wealth can then be created.
02:08:35.000I mean, we have huge populations all over the world.
02:08:40.000How could 4% of the world population have more than half the wealth?
02:08:46.000Then the elites took over in the last hundred years, and we have seen that what 4% having half has switched.
02:08:55.000The elite then started taking the wealth from that 4%, that tiny fraction in the US and England and Europe, started taking the wealth from that 4% that had over half the world's wealth.
02:09:06.000Until now, the Anglo-American establishment has about 80% of the world's wealth, but almost none of that in the actual aggregate is in the people's hands.
02:09:18.000And you cannot explain this to these bleeding-heart communists.
02:09:21.000You cannot explain that everywhere there's oppression and stuff going on, they'd send the communists.
02:10:26.000So, The point I'm trying to get at here is that everything is about building impediments to power, to consolidation, so you can then build your own little castle.
02:10:40.000And he wouldn't answer that question, folks.
02:10:42.000We've got family property that we've developed, that we've used, that has supported families for generations, I guess eight generations now.
02:10:56.000And you'd have a bunch of little greedy people who've never built anything in their lives, a bunch of couch potatoes, running at the head of one of their little Commissar Controllers, and the bankers are going to do this, don't worry, it's going to happen, it just won't be called communism.
02:11:09.000And they'll come and they'll take it, and then our family property will go into the communal Nature Conservancy or Sierra Club, and they'll build hotels on it where the elite can go enjoy themselves, and play five-star golf.
02:12:33.000He wrote a book and he said, I've got it here, in fact I did a reprint of my book, The Sentimentality.
02:12:39.000He said, of course we fund the communists, of course we fund the capitalists, of course we fund the fascists.
02:12:45.000We fund and control everything that centralizes so the Anglo-American roundtable groups And to think that the British intelligence in the late 1900s wrote the Communist Manifesto and had their British agent Marks and Engels go out and push it on a bunch of stupid people.
02:13:13.000A bunch of poor, downtrodden, ignorant people who'd been in serfdom and slavery in Europe and never been out of it.
02:13:20.000And a bunch of people were breaking out of it and the elite was losing their market share.
02:13:24.000From narcotics to textiles to armaments.
02:13:35.000Ripping their hair out because they couldn't get control and communism was a boon.
02:13:42.000They went to the poor, super blue collar people.
02:13:47.000Not the middle class, who was in horror of it, and said, we're gonna get those bourgeoisie, we're gonna get the middle class for you, we're gonna... They've been using you!
02:13:58.000And the big bankers came in, and they killed tens of millions of people, and they kicked the Ukrainians off their farms, and they kicked the poor little Chinese peasants off their farms, and 60 million Chinese died, their government admits they did it, and they cooked up human beings in giant pots to feed the communist armies, Well, they did it!
02:14:19.000And you look at the fruit China's bore.
02:15:17.000And to know that most of the people who get it and know what's going on, Only get limited view, limited paradigm awareness, and they're never going to figure it out.
02:15:31.000And for the greater good, you've got to break a few eggs to make an omelet to build their wonderful system that never materializes, that never delivers.
02:15:43.000All it delivers is centralization and enslavement and sorrow for the general public and centralization and total power for the elite.
02:15:51.000And of course, in the communist system, you go fool the blue-collar, low-level workers into joining you to go rob the middle class at the behest of the elite.
02:16:00.000The elite's always targeting the middle class.
02:16:02.000The only place historically you'll get any upward mobility, the only place you get true renaissance, And the area that breaks the monopoly of power, and you see then the globalists then work that middle class and go, look at the lower classes.
02:16:20.000So the elite then gets the fealty and the support of the middle class.
02:16:25.000While they meanwhile are controlling the underclass, who they use as an attack dog to threaten and destroy and consolidate the middle class.
02:16:34.000And this is why the New World Order is in power, because they know how to control both sides of the coin.
02:16:39.000They know how to control the opposition.
02:16:42.000They know how to get the job done, and that's what they're doing.
02:16:45.000And that's why, if they have their way, we'll be 10-15 years from now in urban super compact cities, As billions are dying worldwide with super-engineered plagues, with only the elite having the antidote, and you will be sitting there watching television, watching the holoscan on the deck of your living room.
02:17:07.000As your whole family dies, and as you prepare to die, and you will remember that I told you, and I knew, and that I warned you, not because I'm a genius, but because I understand their system, and I've studied it.
02:17:20.000So, guaranteed, I want the police to listen, you are going to die, and your family is going to die.
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02:17:30.000I am going to die, my entire family is going to die.
02:17:34.000Your family, all of you, almost everyone, 9 out of 10 people listening, you are going to be killed by the government in the next 10 to 15 years, maybe sooner.
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02:21:52.000Their official 9-11 story is imploding.
02:21:54.000Even Lee Hamilton is in a major news publication today saying that, yeah, a lot of people think the government carried out the attack, quote, think it's an inside job.
02:22:02.000And so they release a few hours compared to the hundreds of hours of tapes they've got.
02:22:08.000But even those tapes that were released to Vanity Fair that are on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com right now are filled with little jewels of how they were running drills that day of the exact same targets at the exact same time being hit by planes.
02:22:22.000Which, that's all admitted, but here is NORAD confused by the drills.
02:22:28.000Here's a clip we played earlier first, and I'll play the parts you haven't heard yet, where they're talking about, boy, this is the most real-world stuff I've ever seen during an exercise.
02:22:42.000I've never seen so much real world stuff happen during an exercise.
02:22:48.000Alright, now we're going to get into the clips we haven't played and I'm just going to roll a few minutes of the clips and then I'll comment and then we'll play a few more minutes and then later before we end this hour we'll talk a little bit more about what's happening in Israel and how serious this escalation has gotten and then we'll take some calls.
02:23:03.000But go ahead and go back to the clips they haven't heard yet.
02:25:14.000Alright, stop it right there for a moment.
02:25:19.000Now, they know that these aircraft have been hijacked for an hour, but they decide to not release the tapes up until right around that point.
02:25:36.000Then it's another, what, 45 minutes from the first plane hitting until the third one hits the Pentagon.
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02:31:06.000See, the establishment has hundreds of hours of these tapes.
02:31:09.000So they release 30 hours of Vanity Fair, who then releases just 15 minutes or so of the tapes, and they tell you, oh, oh, the Pentagon people almost got indicted for lying.
02:31:30.000Because they know they can't come out and continually say they did nothing wrong, so they've got to fall back on, okay, we really screwed up that day.
02:31:37.000Continuing with these just-released-today tapes from some of the NORAD chatter.
02:32:36.000And then you heard him talk about it, we have to shoot down the aircraft, you know, let's use a certain type of munition, he quote, in their face.
02:32:45.000But then when they start giving the request, because this isn't in the tapes, but we know this did happen and it's been in the news, that Dick Cheney gave an order.
02:32:52.000They won't say what that order is, but clearly that was the stand-down order.
02:33:02.000Okay, American Airlines is still airborne.
02:33:04.000Eleven, the first guy, he's heading towards Washington.
02:33:07.000Okay, I think we need to scramble Langley right now, and I'm going to take the fighters from Otis and try to chase this guy down, if I can find him.
02:33:15.000They're probably not squawking anything anyway.
02:33:18.000I mean, obviously these guys are in the cockpit.
02:33:33.000A few months before, as Muhammad Adda was creating as an intelligence operative of this government, his "history" as a hijacker, he believed testing defenses, again, they all do it, the Navy SEALs, the FBI, the BATF, they all practice getting into embassies, getting into airports, getting into government buildings, getting into sports stadiums, you hear about it all the time. getting into government buildings, getting into sports stadiums, you hear They couldn't even get a Cessna off the ground and threw a fit and jumped out of it.
02:33:58.000But they are Conducting these incredible, just unbelievably amazing maneuvers.
02:34:06.000Hitting three out of their four targets and of course would have hit their fourth if someone wouldn't have followed orders for a stand down.
02:34:12.000Somebody didn't follow orders and went ahead and had 93 shot down.
02:34:16.000Which kind of screwed up the official story.
02:34:19.000Imagine if that plane would have hit the Capitol as it was meant to.
02:34:22.000We'd be in total martial law right now.
02:34:39.000- You got quick to plan a little in the E to the S-Base.
02:34:41.000Now you want to go to Baltimore? - Yes, sir.
02:34:43.000We're not going to take him in with E3D six.
02:34:46.000- Okay, once he goes to Baltimore, what are we supposed to do? - He's talking to him.
02:34:51.000Notice that one of the controllers at NORAD is saying, and we asked what we're going to do if we actually catch one of these guys.
02:34:57.000You see, you're just hearing some of the side chatter from lower downs from these different NORAD facilities and FAA facilities back and forth all over the country.
02:35:08.000They're actually trying to give orders.
02:35:10.000They're actually trying to get things done, but you notice they haven't gotten orders so they can give orders, so they're saying, has anybody asked what happens if we actually catch these guys?
02:35:20.000And this is the best stuff the government can release to try to bolster their official story.
02:35:27.000The problem is the general public is so dumbed down, even if they listen to this, they won't know how to interpret it.
02:35:32.000Or they might hear 5 seconds or 10 seconds on ABC Nightly News, and they'll spin it to their own aim.
02:35:38.000But notice, has anybody talked to the higher-ups about what we're supposed to do when we actually catch these guys?
02:35:43.000And the NORAD commanders are saying, well, we need to, you know, go ahead and shoot them down, but we haven't gotten the orders to do that.
02:36:11.000They're asking for orders to be able to then give orders in the chain of command to shoot the planes down, and they're being told, We'll get back to you by that calm voice.
02:36:23.000Notice there's some very interesting little military style, very calm voices in all of this.
02:36:29.000And then you can tell the good guys by how freaked out they are and how they want to do something.
02:36:34.000But there's those nice calm voices just saying, wait, wait, gotta get orders from higher up.
02:36:39.000Because there were hundreds of generals and hundreds of admirals and hundreds of colonels who had the power to shoot those planes down Because it was the default position until June 3rd, a couple months before 9-11, for the first time in NORAD's history, an order from the Vice President saying none of you are allowed to, only I can make that decision.
02:37:04.000We have that document in my film, Martial Law.
02:37:06.000It's on my website, direct link to the Pentagon.
02:38:20.000So according to the timeline, here we are another 20 minutes later.
02:38:24.000And they know that the aircraft is flying right over Washington.
02:38:30.000And you heard them saying, scramble fighters, scramble fighters from Lanely, that's right there outside Washington, which has a huge intercept squadron right there.
02:38:39.000These guys wait in the little ready rooms, in the little shacks out there with the televisions on, with the telephones and the radios, drinking coffee.
02:38:50.000I know so many pilots who have been in their Cessnas or in their Pipers, who have to fly around a big storm here in Texas, where there's all these military bases, and they're going... It's happened to my dad.
02:39:02.000I haven't been in the plane with him when it happened, but he's a small aircraft pilot, and he's trying to fly around a storm, these storms that pop up in Texas in the summer.
02:39:10.000And radios in and says, listen, I can't go around these storms or storms all around me.
02:39:16.000You've got to land at a smaller airfield or go through the storms because you're not going to fly over Fort Hood or you're not going to fly over the Air Force Base up in Fort Worth.
02:39:41.000But then the Air Force got up and said, we have never in the last year done one intercept.
02:39:45.000And then we went and typed in the name of the Air Force captain, their head PR guy, who made that statement, and there he was in an AP article a year before 9-11, bragging about how they'd stopped thousands of flights and intercepted them.
02:42:40.000I'm fascinated by the discussion, but just as a point of reference and to add some information to the discussion, every airliner, every commercial airplane has a transponder which has selectable codes.
02:42:58.000If you select 7700 on your transponder and push the IDENT button immediately on ATC screens, your individual blip, which is your primary, your primary, will be, it's like two little lines, it'll be filled in in between and that code 7700 will flash.
02:43:19.000They will know that that plane is immediately hijacked.
02:44:05.000I don't know how in the world that they would not know that those planes were... Anytime an unidentified aircraft, if you're flying on an IFR flight plan, you have to have positive voice communication with ATC at least every 15 minutes.
02:44:19.000And of course with the Payne Stewart example and many others, we know that those planes should have been identified as hijacked aircraft.
02:44:26.000Well, even if it's not identified, they launch F-16s as soon as you're off course or don't respond.
02:44:55.000Yes, Alex, that's very unfortunate, but I think that's what many of us are coming to believe.
02:45:00.000Well, I mean, you hear the people in NORAD talking to the FAA and others, and they're saying, Scramble Fighters, Scramble Fighters, and it doesn't happen.
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02:53:01.000Let's go back to the clips from the NORAD whitewash audio that they're releasing which itself is incriminating for Inside Job.