Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he. Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones will be covering a variety of topics including: - 9/11, the supposed ceasefire in the Middle East, in Lebanon and northern Israel, and much more!
00:00:42.000We'll be live for the next three hours.
00:00:45.000We'll get into all the fear-mongering that Alberto Gonzalez and Michael Chertoff, both dual citizens of different countries, are doing to scare the population into accepting a new reign of total terror and control.
00:01:02.000More on my prediction of government-sponsored terror by late October, unless we warn the world, which is now starting to happen.
00:01:12.000Also, what the supposed ceasefire is doing over in the Middle East, in Lebanon and northern Israel.
00:01:20.000Coming up in the second hour, really, the American Union news has gotten off of the front burner, unfortunately.
00:01:29.000and the fact that uh... the census reports that cities like new york are sixty plus percent foreigners and illegal aliens and almost every other major city in the u.s.
00:01:40.000is majority foreigner that trends only accelerating not decelerating or reversing and how that ties into his freedom of information act request and some of the documents he's gotten some of the documents they've refused to give Jerome Corsi in his fight to expose the American Union.
00:02:01.000You see, I've been trying to expose the American Union for 12 years and we've had, oh, it's got to be 30, 40, 50 guests on just the last couple years on the subject, but a lot of people didn't pay attention to us.
00:02:13.000You know, we talk about the Federal Reserve being private and vaccines being bad for you and most conservative leaders not really being conservative, so the La La Land fake conservatives won't listen to us, but
00:02:26.000When a neocon lord like Jerome Corsi finally reads the documents and decides to do reports on it, finally America now admits it's real and going on, and Lou Dobbs, an establishment type, admits it's going on, and Glenn Beck admits it's going on, and the Associated Press admits it's going on, well then we can finally have a real discussion.
00:03:29.000I'm just pointing out this guy's tied in with these operatives.
00:03:32.000Jonathan Mosley wrote a really venomous, savage hit piece against myself and others, and said some things in here that I don't think will stand up to scrutiny.
00:03:47.0009-1-1 Bush Bashers is his archetypal neocon hit piece against me, where I'm called the key conspiracy leader.
00:03:59.000I've run the whole thing and I'm particularly un-American and disgusting and horrible and profane.
00:04:09.000Says, I'm profaning the deaths of the 3,000.
00:04:11.000Well, if I was one of the 3,000 that was killed, I'd want those that killed me to be brought to justice, whether you even believe the official story.
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00:05:26.000Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.
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00:08:17.000Alright, coming up in the third hour today, we have Jonathan Mosley wrote this really vicious 9-11 hit piece on my shelf and others.
00:08:27.000And I appreciate him having the courage to come on the show.
00:08:31.000He'll be joining us coming up in the third hour today.
00:08:34.000We will have open phones during the broadcast as well.
00:08:38.000I want to talk some about the American Union and the open borders.
00:08:43.000We've been so busy talking about government stage terror attacks that are looming and the ongoing conflict in the Middle East that we're not really looking at The public signing of the Security and Prosperity Partnership and what that means to our society.
00:09:00.000Here are some of the latest articles out on the subject, just from Human Events alone.
00:09:05.000North American Trusted Trader begins rolling out on the NAFTA Super Corridor.
00:09:11.000In the Trusted Traders, that is an American Union ID Pass for Canada, the U.S.
00:09:33.000And we'll get more into the La Reconquista Movement, Mexico's plan for the American Southwest from their own statements, from their own admissions.
00:09:47.000In a minute though, I'm going to get into Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez is saying that literally terrorists are everywhere and that they are just on the verge.
00:10:04.000I talked to a family friend yesterday and I'm not supposed to tell you the name of the funeral home I'm not supposed to tell you any of the details.
00:10:18.000People just like to tell me stuff like this and then say that we've all got to basically cower down and let it all happen.
00:10:39.000But Americans today, even people that I know personally, for many years, still feel like, well, that you're just not supposed to talk about it.
00:10:48.000You're not supposed to talk about horrible things when you confirm it.
00:10:52.000It has to do with the plan here in Austin and every other major city to put the dead bodies in the makeshift morgue.
00:11:02.000And can you guess what the makeshift morgue is going to be after the terror attack they say that is sure to happen?
00:11:09.000It is the North Cross Mall ice skating rink.
00:11:15.000And a lot of you just tuned in and you're saying, what are you talking about Alex Jones?
00:11:19.000Well, I'll tell you a little bit later after we cover some news in this hour exactly what I'm getting at here.
00:11:25.000I want to give you time to call your friends and family and your co-workers and your neighbors and tell them to tune in right now whether you're listening on an AM or FM station, shortwave, the internet, or satellite.
00:11:41.000Because this is important and it meshes in with all the other data I have in front of me.
00:11:46.000And I've already independently confirmed what you're going to hear.
00:11:52.000But it's just when you then get it even in your town you live in, when you hear the type of stuff that you've read that's been going on nationally, it just lets you know how serious the globalists are and what they'd like to do to you and your family.
00:12:11.000The world is going to be a-changin' in a big way, for the worse, unless we get the word out about the bad people that are running our government.
00:12:21.000And, you know, the neocon zombie followers seem to think it's because we hate George Bush.
00:12:30.000And, yeah, they're right to a certain extent.
00:12:33.000The crust, the very thin veneer at the surface, I mean I don't like George Bush, I don't like Bill Clinton, I detest people like Hillary and Chuckie Schumer and folks of that ilk, but I mean I hate all puppets of the New World Order.
00:12:54.000I detest elitists that can care less about our freedoms and our futures.
00:12:59.000But no, it's not because we're all evil, mindless, Democrat liberals that we just mindlessly hate George Bush.
00:15:30.000But this is their new tactic, and believe me, a lot of the general public is so, not even dumbed down, they're so focused on mindlessness, they're so focused on baloney, their brains are so filled with disinformation, and they associate their whole psyche with the disinfo.
00:15:48.000That's who they are, that's their identity.
00:15:51.000That they hear that I'm with Al-Qaeda, folks, and they hear that I'm supporting Al-Qaeda, they believe it!
00:16:03.000You know, I wasn't joking over the years when I kept saying, you know, you're for freedom, you're with Al-Qaeda!
00:16:09.000Now, whenever you complain about a warrantless break into your house, or the police rubber-bulleting an innocent crowd, they now just say, well, you know, it's post-9-11.
00:16:48.000Except for those that really are Al-Qaeda, the bowels of the military-industrial complex that created these organizations, that control them seven ways to Sunday.
00:17:01.000We've got the evidence in quadruple-triplicate.
00:17:08.000They can just get in World Net Daily and just say, well, they claim Bin Laden's CIA.
00:17:11.000Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
00:17:34.000You see, they know people don't read today's newspaper, much less go pull them off the microfiche at the library from 20 years ago.
00:17:44.000And so if perception is reality... You see, the globalists know that.
00:17:54.000And most of their minions are well-meaning people.
00:17:57.000I would imagine that Jonathan Mosley, who we've got scheduled in the third hour if he shows up, and I'm sure he will, I mean, he probably believes all this stuff and really thinks I'm a demon.
00:18:22.000Because the people that did 9-11 are going to keep on doing it as long as we give them power out of it.
00:18:28.000Later in the show, I got about a four-minute clip that a caller called in about this yesterday and I'd read about it, I hadn't seen it.
00:18:34.000Last night I came across the local newscast of peaceful protesters not doing anything wrong, peacefully gathered, and the police department there in Florida just start shooting them with rubber bullets and laughing while they do it.
00:18:51.000And then the deputy police chief's in there, one of the top captains, And he's just having a huge celebration.
00:19:25.000And it was humiliating to know that America has gone from land of the free, home of the brave, where cops used to step and fetch it for the American people a hundred years ago.
00:19:36.000And they got on Mafia payroll about 80 years ago and the rest is history.
00:19:44.000I mean, just a giant tent of hundreds of people in Darth Vader uniforms.
00:20:01.000David J. Smith for Newswatch Magazine.
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00:20:19.000Have we seen this very type of socialization of America over the last 60 years?
00:20:25.000We've been pushed far down the slippery slope of socialism, communism, and don't even know it.
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00:24:10.000Every time there is an anti-free trade open border demonstration with liberals and conservatives together, anywhere in this country, the police are ordered to go out and aim at peaceful protesters.
00:24:24.000We've got photos and videos of wooden dowels sticking out of people's bodies.
00:24:28.000Folks die every year in this country from these rubber bullets and wooden bullets.
00:24:32.000And you've got lawyers out in their business suits just standing there with a sign, the cops just, from about 30 feet away, shooting with rubber bullets, blood spilling out all over the place, and you can hear the cops laughing.
00:26:31.000Still, oh and by the way, we did learn, it is in the news, and they got caught, it was in mainstream news two days ago, they are selling on eBay your lighters, your tweezers, in some cases your hundred dollar pocket knives, they are selling your unopened champagne, they are selling your wine.
00:26:52.000Those little creatures are stealing it.
00:26:55.000And of course they lied, it was on national news.
00:27:14.000See, just setting the precedent right out.
00:27:17.000By the way, so-called less lethal weapons, or non-lethal weapons, their true term, less lethal crowd control weapons, The plan is they're training the police with rubber bullets now.
00:27:32.000These are a training aid to fire real bullets into crowds in the near future.
00:27:40.000That's all it is and it's also training for the public to get accustomed to the images of people being hit and blood spilling.
00:27:47.000We remember the girl, what was her name, up in Up in Boston a couple years ago, oh how quickly we forget, and she just walked out of a bar.
00:28:03.000She was getting ready to graduate from college.
00:28:15.000And the cops called it a riot, just people wouldn't get off the streets at 2 a.m.
00:28:19.000They said, that's it, the bars are closed, and so everybody's leaving the bars, and here come the Darth Vader police, they've been given all this federal gear, they've been given training, and they block off a bunch of streets, and by the way, I've seen it in Austin, they don't let you get away, and then they just open fire and kill that young girl!
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00:33:27.000We've got this guest joining us who wrote the big 9-11 hit piece on the 9-11 Scholars for Truth and myself, Jonathan Mosley, coming up in the third hour today.
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00:34:06.000uh... from the latest protests down in Miami and this has been repeated the last few years anytime they protest against the free trade area of the Americas or any of these deals the police got in trouble what three years ago because they even beat up some federal a federal judge and his wife what the cops would do is direct protesters down alleys and then just beat the daylights out of them they beat up some reporters but see they didn't get in trouble for that
00:34:36.000So now they just shoot women in the face for no reason.
00:36:03.000Now, even if you don't believe the criminal elements of the government are staging terror attacks, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we know that everything they're doing to quote fight it has nothing to do with keeping us safe, and everything to do with getting control of our lives, and robbing us blind, and robbing the treasury.
00:36:24.000Someone gets into some of these articles and, Alberto Gonzales, terrorists are living in our neighborhoods!
00:36:29.000He said that they're everywhere, they could be baby bombers!
00:36:34.000Don't trust anyone and there's a new discovery of a new strain of H5N1.
00:36:38.000I should have told you about the plan to put everybody on ice who dies from this right here in Austin using the skating rink, the ice rink.
00:36:52.000I'll tell you directly what we got from one of the, I'm going to say one of the, it really is the, but Let's say a very big national funeral home talking to one of the head honchos over there.
00:37:05.000Of course, we already knew this, but just to actually hear it locally from someone else who was told it by the feds, taken to a big seminar with the feds there.
00:37:17.000Oh, the government loves you so much they wouldn't hurt you.
00:38:01.000And we'll then get into the fake terror alerts and play the clip.
00:38:07.000The clip of police having celebrations over shooting unarmed innocent women who are peacefully, legally, lawfully, rightfully, dutifully demonstrating.
00:38:18.000Land of the slave, home of the coward.
00:38:21.000Land of the shackled, home of the surveilled.
00:38:31.000I've had these people call in to this show, and now on my Sunday show I do on Kelby Jay, they'll call in and go, You're making all this up!
00:38:37.000You've got freedom to be on the air, but I don't think you should be!
00:38:41.000But wait, I thought you guys were for freedom.
00:38:43.000I think you should be taken off the air!
00:38:46.000But, but, but the country's still free, though, huh?
00:38:50.000There's lots of talk now by the neocon radio host and TV people and blogs that we should be restricted in our speech, spewing this type of sedition, I mean.
00:39:01.000Getting up here and actually defending the Republic.
00:39:05.000When we've almost got it down on its knees, stop those people!
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00:45:32.000Every year or so in Miami, if there's any type of anti-war or pro-homeless rally, where they've outlawed Miami and other cities like Tampa feeding homeless.
00:45:42.000I mean, you can't go to the park and give them a hamburger.
00:45:45.000They will arrest you and you'll be lucky if they don't knock your head in.
00:45:49.000When you've got a mafia-run police department, this happens.
00:45:52.000It's always worse in places like Chicago and New York and Houston and Miami and places like that.
00:46:02.000If you don't have a computer and can't go to JonesReport.com and watch this, this is just a few days ago, a repeat of what's happened in the past.
00:46:11.000This is ABC News, interspersed with some activist footage, and this happened again just a few days ago.
00:49:31.000And the cops are just laughing, flipping them off, going, F you!
00:49:34.000We had to cut that out, but we show the, you know, video.
00:49:37.000Well, we actually left it on the website, but we cut it out here on the radio, and they're just flipping them off and laughing, and then they're just sitting there shotgunning them with rubber bullets, just, HA HA HA HA HA!
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00:53:56.000Going up on Jones' report right now, Professor Stephen Jones gave us his statement on Jonathan Mosley's comments that Jones was calling for violent revolution.
00:54:20.000Anyone who knows Professor Jones knows how ridiculous that statement is.
00:54:24.000And we're going back right now into Jones's C-SPAN speech, and we've seen it many times.
00:54:29.000We remember he never said that, but we're double-checking that right now.
00:54:32.000But Jones is pretty upset about this, for as calm a person as he is.
00:54:37.000We do have Jonathan Mosley coming on in the third hour to talk about this unbelievable 9-11 story he wrote about myself, Jones, Fetzer, and others.
00:57:03.000I was flabbergasted that an officer of the law would be trained in such a manner as to applaud and congratulate people for shooting a peaceful citizen in the head.
00:57:18.000Major John Brooks, who led those briefings, was made available by the department to offer this.
00:57:23.000We want to apologize for those remarks that were made, both about her and about the event.
00:57:28.000You know, to say that we're sorry those remarks were made.
00:57:32.000Brooks made headlines once before, riding into the van that was used to remove Elian Gonzalez from his relative's house in Little Havana.
00:57:41.000Elizabeth Ritter says neither Brooks nor Sergeant Kelman has called to offer her that apology in person.
01:00:31.000So I told you we'd have open phones this hour, but I'm told Courtesy can only come on for 30 minutes, so we'll take calls immediately when we hit the bottom of the hour to get into the American Union, which is a very important subject.
01:00:45.000And there have been a bunch of new breaking developments concerning my prediction of a government-sponsored terror attack by late October.
01:00:53.000Some new developments there I want to get into, and again, you guys and gals out there are really getting the word out on this.
01:01:10.000The criminals running the world are totally ruthless, and they need disasters, they need bird flus, they need smallpox, they need the threat of terrorism naturally occurring, or orchestrated by some group, as a pretext to get us to give up all of our liberties and go under total micromanagement.
01:01:28.000And I got a bunch of articles out in the last week about how that bird flu is still going to get us.
01:01:33.000It was supposed to kill us this winter.
01:01:35.000We're now coming to the end of the summer.
01:02:00.000So all of this is going on and we have the mainstream news articles.
01:02:07.000We have the internal documents we posted.
01:02:11.000Out of Pennsylvania, where in 13,000 plus counties, major preachers and pastors and priests have been recruited to tell their members, their parishioners, to turn their guns in, to take injections, to let their families be broken up.
01:02:27.000Remember, we majored in national news.
01:02:29.000We made a few months ago with this, and some of the preachers did the rounds out there.
01:02:34.000And then FEMA had to admit, yeah, we're training preachers to quote, help us pacify the public.
01:02:40.000Well, I've also read little blurbs about how the government and the Associated Press was reporting we're recruiting morticians and recruiting funeral homes to mass cremate and store all the dead bodies, and they told them that upwards of 150 million Americans will probably die.
01:02:57.000For those that just joined us or went to public school like myself, that is half the population of the United States, okay?
01:03:04.000That's the government saying this will happen, not might.
01:03:07.000I have mainstream articles saying it will.
01:03:10.000Well, I happen to have a good family friend who was at a major funeral home Monday.
01:03:19.000And I have the person's name, all the details, but I'm not at liberty to go into it, why I have no idea.
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01:06:58.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
01:07:00.000I tell you, Jerome Corsi is really an enigma to me because Dr. Corsi is very intelligent, very informed, does great research on NAFTA, GATT, the American Union, the open borders, the Chinese and others taking over our ports, the open borders, the Chinese and others taking over our ports, the But then when it gets to the war on terror, he buys into that.
01:07:37.000He's gotten some of what he wanted, didn't get some of it.
01:07:40.000But he's been breaking some really big stories at WorldNetDaily and Human Events.
01:07:44.000We have links to those right now at Infowars.com and so we're honored to have him with us and we're glad he's fighting this key issue and he's about to come to Texas and be on the southern border for a month and I may go down there and videotape and cover some of what he's doing.
01:07:59.000I've been invited A hundred times by the minute men to go down there.
01:08:02.000I've just never had the time, but I may do it, because I want to interview Corsi about the American Union for a TV show I'm doing here locally.
01:08:10.000But Dr. Corsi, thanks for coming on with us.
01:08:12.000Oh, it's a great pleasure, Alex, and come on down to the border.
01:08:15.000I'd love to work with you on a TV show that you're doing, and we'd love to have you the minute men down at the border.
01:08:21.000Well, I keep meaning to do it, I just...
01:08:24.000I don't know how upset I'll be seeing all those illegals pouring across, but hell, I'm here in Austin, Texas, which might as well be the border.
01:08:32.000We're bringing the trans-Texas corridor right through your backyard.
01:08:37.000Let's behave as if we've got laymen joining us that don't understand the full scope of the American Union.
01:08:43.000Tell us what it is, what its main tenets are, how far ahead and along it already is, sir.
01:08:49.000Well it started really with the Waco, Texas in March 23rd, 2005.
01:08:55.000President Bush signed or agreed to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.
01:09:01.000The summit meeting with Vincente Fox and with Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin.
01:09:07.000And from there it's just gone to a steady stream of government exercises and efforts to build what looks like it's going to be a North American Union like the European Union.
01:09:17.000And I've been focusing on this Department of Government, really department or division, spp.gov, that's sampeterpaul.gov, government website.
01:09:29.000And it documents, Alex, there, as you know, the 20 or so working groups that are actively today creating trilateral memorandums of understanding, a whole new network structure of North American, basically treaty-type agreements, basically treaty-type agreements, and everything covering from e-commerce through energy, through environment, travel, trade, you name it, there's a working group right now creating new trilateral mutual understandings and integrating
01:09:56.000there's a working group right now creating new trilateral mutual understandings and integrating our administrative law And this is all about regional government.
01:10:07.000Already the states and the regions are breaking into their own subgroups where these unelected boards with executive authority literally are superseding local and even federal control of the Congress.
01:10:22.000And I had you on a few weeks ago on my local show on KLBJ.
01:10:26.000And since it's been in the news, can you tell us more, A, about the Trusted Traveler, which is really the American Union ID card, and now they have accompanying legislation to actually take tax money of American citizens and build the infrastructure in Mexico.
01:10:42.000In fact, I've got the bill here in front of me.
01:10:47.000Well, first of all, the Trusted Trader and Trusted Traveler is right out of SPP.gov.
01:10:54.000And what they're going to do is they're going to Have some form of registration system where we'll all be given North American Union, basically, biometric border passes.
01:11:06.000And if you're a trusted trader, your trucking company or railroad or whatever will be able to cross the border with a Sentry electronic system.
01:11:15.000It'll be like going through an EZ Pass on a highway.
01:11:18.000And Mexicans will get them as well as we will in the United States.
01:11:21.000It'll completely open the border, Alex, because you'll be able to take your biometrics North American border pass card and swipe it, just like swiping it through a credit card checkout in a grocery store, and you can walk across the border.
01:11:36.000And 30 million more illegal Mexicans will all of a sudden be legal because they've got these biometric North American cards.
01:11:44.000And I'm looking at a great article you wrote about this, and all your claims you hyperlinked to government documents, that's what I like.
01:11:51.000North American trusted traders begin rolling on NAFTA corridor highways, and this is from Human Events online, and we have a link on InfoWars.com to an archive on Human Events, a great website, where you can just see dozens and dozens and dozens of stories written by Dr. Corsi.
01:12:26.000The general public is having trouble believing.
01:12:28.000I mean, even when Lou Dobbs comes out and says, the end of America as we know it, total takeover, still I talk to mainline conservatives, they just go, George Bush wouldn't do that, it's not true.
01:12:39.000And I go, please look at the evidence, and they're in denial.
01:12:45.000It's why I link so much to the government websites.
01:12:47.000I mean, every article I've been writing.
01:12:49.000And if you look at the book, you know, Minutemen, the Battle to Secure America's Borders, we interviewed dozens of government officials and quote them in the book.
01:12:58.000Now, the denial is that many Americans have come to associate conservatives with Republicans.
01:13:06.000In other words, they think Republicans are all conservatives.
01:13:09.000They think George Bush is a conservative.
01:13:11.000But it hasn't been the case since I was a kid.
01:13:14.000There always was the Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party, which was the New York billionaires and billionaires and the international business people who wanted only profit and did not care about borders or the sovereignty of the United States.
01:13:29.000Now that group is still strong in the Republican Party, and this idea to open up our borders and to let immigrants pour in here like an invasion It's a bipartisan idea.
01:13:41.000You've got Republicans and Democrats alike cooperating to do it.
01:14:29.000And this whole idea of building this NAFTA superhighway, which is going to start in Texas next year, this Trans-Texas Corridor, four football fields wide of highway, train lines, pipes for natural gas pipelines, and oil, It's going to be built parallel to Interstate 35, right up from Laredo, Texas, right through Austin, through Dallas, up to the border, heading towards Oklahoma City.
01:14:56.000We've got trade groups like NASCO, N-A-S-C-O, look at nascocorridor.com, all one word.
01:15:06.000These state organizations, Kansas City SmartPorts, are going to put a Mexican port in the Kansas City inland port.
01:15:15.000I mean, first of all, what's Kansas City doing with an inland port?
01:15:29.000It's already set up, and then it bypasses the unions, everybody.
01:15:33.000This is globalism, where they literally carve up the infrastructure and hand it off to different foreign companies and countries.
01:15:39.000It's like most of the major highways in Texas will openly be run by Spanish-owned Sentra that Spanish government backed.
01:15:46.000I mean, we have foreign governments basically buying off our politicians and grabbing our roads, and they're going to slap unbelievable taxes on these roads.
01:15:56.000You know, the people are going to vote in Texas for Governor Perry.
01:15:59.000If he wins, they're going to be surprised when he turns back around and he starts issuing eminent domain seizures of their homes.
01:16:07.000By the way, that's already happening in Eastern South Texas.
01:16:10.000They're already telling ranches, two miles off the road, we're taking your land, and people aren't getting fair value for it.
01:16:16.000Well, that's right, and they're not going to have any say about it.
01:16:18.000We're taking your land, not whether you like it.
01:16:22.000Even these meetings that are being held in Texas, These hearings that the Texas Department of Transportation are holding, they're not about whether or not the road's going to be built.
01:16:32.000They're just to show everybody the route it's coming through.
01:16:38.000If I actually... And by the way, I talked to a bunch of people that were there.
01:16:40.000A well-known musician, Jimmy Vaughn, went and literally screamed at them and asked how they sleep at night.
01:16:46.000No one at any of these meetings, literally, you can have 2,000 people at these things and no one is for it, except maybe a TxDOT employee, and at the end they just say, we don't care, it goes forward.
01:16:56.000That's right, they're ignoring the people.
01:16:57.000It's like what President Bush is doing.
01:16:59.000The American people want the borders secured.
01:17:03.000He's already agreed to erase the border.
01:17:06.000And the frightening part about this is when this National Superhighway connects in Mexico, it's going to connect down to ports like Lazaro, Cardenas.
01:17:15.000These ports are operated by the Communist Chinese, Hutchinson, Wampoa.
01:17:19.000All of the major ports at Corpus Christi, which is giant, it's almost bigger than the Houston ports, are going to be Chinese run, that was in the Corpus Christi collar times.
01:17:28.000Well that's due to me, and I know for sure in Mexico, And these Mexican ports... Oh no, now China's getting the Texas ports, oh yeah.
01:17:39.000This Robert Pastor, who is at American University, he's been the father of the North American Union.
01:17:45.000He wrote the Council on Foreign Relations report, Building a North American Community.
01:17:50.000That report bragged it was the plan behind the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.
01:17:56.000And Robert Pastor is the same guy who under Jimmy Carter The National Security Council, and he gave away Panama Canal back to Panama, and both ends of the Panama Canal are also operated... And that was the trilateralist David Rockefeller's Big New Brzezinski then.
01:18:11.000That's right, and that's exactly right, and both ends of the Panama Canal are operated also by Hutchinson Wampoa.
01:18:21.000Now, I'm going to start writing, and I'll start it next week, some more articles on China, and documenting these slave goods that are being produced and brought up this highway.
01:18:37.000Because they can't pass legislation to get it, so they're just ordering the different executive branches, the bureaucracies, to implement, and it's happening.
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01:18:55.000Did you know that a semi-secret organization called the Council on Foreign Relations was founded in 1921 by Marxist Colonel Edward Mandel House, who was the personal advisor to President Woodrow Wilson?
01:19:08.000Its objective was to capture the foreign policy section of the State Department to help direct U.S.
01:19:13.000influence in the overthrow of targeted nations for communism.
01:19:18.000They were successful in the overthrow of Cuba and the Union of South Africa and many others.
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01:19:57.000But the truth be told, public and private debt increased to a record high in 1999, reaching a peak of $14.8 trillion, marking 10.57% annual increase, outpacing its previous 10 years.
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01:24:33.000See, Jerome didn't even know about it.
01:24:35.000There's lots of stuff that he talks about I don't know about.
01:24:37.000There's so much studying this every day, it's so bad that he didn't even know it was in the Corpus Christi paper that the Communist Chinese are taking over the major ports there.
01:24:49.000The thing is, Alex, there's so many people working on this.
01:24:52.000You've got, within our federal government, the papers I've already gotten from SPP.gov, There's, you know, 10 or 12 different agencies of the federal government participating on these working groups, and they're just by fiat creating new memorandums, trilateral memorandums of understanding.
01:25:10.000They're not submitting them as treaties to Congress, but our laws are being rewritten by the executive branch.
01:25:16.000It's virtually a coup going on within the administration, within the executive branch of the Bush administration.
01:25:22.000That's what's happening, and they'll deny it until it's already fait accompli.
01:25:31.000People have got to get involved and speak up.
01:25:35.000Voting against Governor Perry, it's going to be, to me, astonishing if Governor Perry wins re-election in Texas with the invasion that's going on in Texas.
01:26:16.000I've written articles on worldnetdaily.com, tracing the money, looking at all the money Governor Perry's campaign's gotten from the Spanish company that's financing this trans-Texas corridor and the Texas company that's going to do the building.
01:26:30.000Well, the head of Perry's Border Affairs Group is a Mexican citizen, a registered lobbyist of Mexico.
01:26:37.000Well, that's right, and you know, they'll all deny it.
01:26:39.000The Kansas City SmartPort, We're saying, oh no, this will be, you know, the Mexican Customs Office will be still Kansas City soil.
01:26:47.000Well, then we had to get their internal emails.
01:26:49.000Their internal emails show that they have not even yet gotten the approval of the State Department.
01:26:54.000It might take a treaty to get this customs, Mexican Customs Office in Kansas City.
01:26:59.000It's almost assuredly going to be Mexican sovereign soil in Kansas City.
01:27:03.000But they lie to the people, even though their internal emails show that they are lying.
01:27:08.000They don't, they don't feel any compunction to come forth and tell the truth about what they're doing.
01:27:29.000I'm just expecting, they may slow play it a while, but I expect to get more documents.
01:27:33.000And what I've gotten right now, Alex, the United States of America Just out of these, erased out.
01:27:39.000Everything is North American this, North American that, North American everything.
01:27:43.000Well, you've got the documents where Texas companies are being given their new North American Union Code.
01:27:47.000I've got them right in my file here where you've got a Texas corporation, you've got to apply, get your North American Business Classification Code.
01:27:56.000You can't use the old ones supplied by the Texas Department of Commerce or the U.S.
01:28:04.000It's going to be harmonized with Canada and Mexico.
01:28:07.000Mr. Corsi, Dr. Corsi, we've got to get you back up for a full hour in the near future.
01:28:13.000I know you're beating yourself to death, fighting us, running all over the country, but I think the good news is we've gone from nobody knowing about this to now I'd say a lot of folks waking up.
01:28:22.000I think you're right, Alex, and we're just going to continue.
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01:30:43.000I have an urgent message for all of our listeners.
01:30:45.000The mass media keeps telling us that we are the richest, most powerful economy in the world.
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01:30:58.000The mass media keeps telling us that we are the richest, most powerful economy in the world.
01:31:04.000If this is true, why can't we pay our bills?
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01:31:13.000The truth is, is that we are in the worst debt bubble in our nation's history.
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01:32:05.000And then I'm going to get back into more details on how, when the bird flu is sure to hit us, the feds say, I'm not saying that, that it may kill half the population or more, and that all the major ice skating rinks are designated for the dead bodies.
01:32:20.000And one of the heads of the biggest funeral home here in Austin nationwide, It's one of the biggest.
01:32:27.000Uh, they went to the big seminar and they told them all that everybody's gonna be dying and martial law's gonna come in and the funeral homes will be needed to take all the dead bodies down and they'll be kept at the North Cross Mall there on the ice.
01:33:34.000I mean, up here in Canada, in Toronto, I think it was before 9-11, we had the head of the police services or A union just openly threatening the commissioners here in Toronto.
01:33:48.000Oh yeah, when a country goes bad, when a society goes bad, the police in Rome, Roman police captains, Roman generals, there'd be new Caesars every month.
01:34:44.000You see, psychopaths, sociopaths, criminals, hardcore criminals are normally sociopaths, and they may break completely into total, you know, psychopath behavior, psychotic break.
01:35:26.000And see, empathy is what you have in aggressive mammals.
01:35:29.000It's so we don't tear our own pack members to pieces because we are aggressive.
01:35:35.000Actually, dominant aggressive males have more empathy than even most females.
01:35:41.000But weak Child-like, arrested development, the equivalent of being an eleven-year-old, zit-faced, you know, just trying to feel aggressive.
01:35:50.000That's the mentality of these weak little... I see a lot of these cops in these black uniforms.
01:35:55.000They kind of waddle around with their knees pointing in.
01:36:42.000A 21-year-old college student died Thursday of a head injury after a clash between police and a crowd of Red Sox fans who poured into the streets outside Fenway Park.
01:37:41.000Because if a rubber bullet hits you in the eye, it pushes the eyeball back in, and then it breaks that bone and bleeding, then it just starts pouring, and that blood starts pouring into the brain.
01:37:51.000You get a subdermal hematoma, that bleeding underneath the skull, pushing the little brain up against the skull, crushing it as ounces and ounces of blood pour in.
01:38:05.000and And what do these stupid meatballs do?
01:38:14.000In fact, there was laughing in Boston.
01:38:17.000At first, the cops ran over, started beating up her boyfriend.
01:38:20.000You know, because she hit the ground, and they all just started walking over, because that's... See, they want confrontations.
01:38:30.000They want confrontations in the screening at the airport.
01:38:34.000They want confrontations on the street.
01:38:36.000They want to let men let them know that we're the people that run things here!
01:38:44.000I remember doing a lot of stories on that, and so they just kind of walked over.
01:41:29.000If you don't have, uh, you know, there's no welfare there in the great commie world.
01:41:33.000And the farmers, real, real human beings, make Americans look like cowardly pieces of filth, charging Chinese military with machine guns and they have hoes and axes and rakes.
01:41:49.000Because, I mean, you know, the truth is, if you've got 5,000 farmers up against 300 police with machine guns, the farmers come running up and they run the 100 yards.
01:41:57.000They run the 50 yards with just bullets.
01:43:51.000Look at what our country's turned into!
01:43:55.000And the government blows up buildings right in front of us, and flies planes into them, and the general public's so stupid, not even tuned in to reality at such a low level, they don't automatically know it's an inside job?
01:44:55.000There's a real choice in November in the election.
01:44:57.000I'm running for governor as a write-in candidate, and the headless quintuplets that are going to be on the ballot, every one of them is unacceptable and we all know it.
01:45:06.000My middle name has been legally changed to Patriot to reflect who I am and what I believe in.
01:45:11.000I will be on the ballot, so there can be no confusion whatsoever.
01:45:15.000So hold on, Jim Dillon, who I know personally, is running for governor, your name is no longer Jim Dillon, it is Patriot?
01:45:28.000Certified by the court, signed by a judge, on the ballot, listed that way, and there cannot be any confusion whatsoever.
01:45:35.000So you're going to be on the gubernatorial ballot in every county?
01:45:39.000I will be And my name, James Patriot Dillon, in quotation marks, Patriot, will be posted prominently in bold type in every polling booth, every polling booth in Texas in November.
01:45:53.000And if the millions of Patriots in this state do not make the right selection in this upcoming election, then they're going to deserve everything they're about to get, Alex, and you know it.
01:46:04.000Well, Jim, I appreciate your call, but it's more than that.
01:46:08.000The national average was 35% like a year ago.
01:46:11.000I know it's growing with the CIA run machines and the Feds paying to put them in.
01:46:18.000And I know Texas is ahead of the curve on that, so people are trying, they're confused.
01:46:24.000So, Jim, if I get down there to vote, I'm not... Travis County is kind of a joke.
01:46:31.000Gennady Bois has been caught stealing elections, the county clerk.
01:47:30.000I was wondering if you could explain to me... I read what William Cooper had to say about this and I'd like to know if you know what will happen under page six of the Homeland Security with FEMA and everything if there's Another real bad attack like you're saying might happen, you know, with all the funeral homes being geared up and everything.
01:47:56.000What would happen in the few days following that with our government and our infrastructure?
01:48:06.000They'll probably have small bio-releases where only a few hundred people die, maybe even less, but there's lots of hysteria and freaking out, and checkpoints on the highways, and we're locking cities and states down, because they've told us what they'll do.
01:48:20.000Not that they'll stage the small attack, but they'll tell us what they'll do in an attack.
01:48:25.000Lock down the states, lock down the cities, and Then have lots of hysteria and fear, and use that for a bigger crackdown and lockdown.
01:48:35.000Then, a few years later, when you're least expecting it, when they're not hyping the fear, but they've got all the locales trained to go under federal control instantly, that's what this is all about, and the public trained to be totally fearful, and all the preachers recruited, which they're now doing, 13,000 plus counties, and all the mortuaries recruited, it's going to probably be something really deadly.
01:49:00.000And there will be dead bodies all over the place.
01:49:03.000And they're just going to let it run its course.
01:49:05.000They'll be in their bunkers with their cures.
01:49:50.000It's here after a year in production and traveling to distant lands.
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01:55:19.000If he leaves us early, at the bottom of the hour, we'll be able to go to your calls then, but I may even go to calls while he's on with us.
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01:55:31.000And I think I'm going to let one of the people being accused here face his accuser, and I think we're going to have Jim Fetzer on in about 20 minutes to ask a few questions or make a few statements back at Jonathan Mosley.
01:55:47.000Mosley also has this statement, quote, after debating these characters extensively, and he goes on to name me first, I believe people need to know who they really are.
01:55:58.000And then he goes on to list the characters.
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02:00:17.000Because we have a foreign enemy who has attacked us and has been attacking us since 1979 and hit the World Trade Center in 1993 and tells us they want to kill us again and again.
02:00:27.000And instead of Looking at the people who really killed them, they want to use it for a political point to bash George Bush and blame our country.
02:00:38.000It's awfully easy to talk about technicalities.
02:00:44.000Jonathan, you say that it's Bush-bashers, and then you talk about how it's liberals.
02:00:49.000Did you know that actually, I've looked at it, most people that believe 9-11 is an inside job are actually conservatives?
02:00:56.000Well, most people I've talked to, I would have a hard time believing that, because the arguments invariably degenerate into... Well, but see, Bush is no conservative, sir, so see... I mean, out of the gate, you're claiming he's a conservative, when by every yardstick, he's not a conservative.
02:01:13.000Well, that could be, and the issue here isn't whether, you know, it's okay to bash Bush or not.
02:01:18.000My point is that they're certainly not looking for the truth.
02:01:22.000The whole movement here is, we want to know the truth about 9-11, and my argument is, no, you don't.
02:01:27.000Because you go from questions to conclusions without anything in between.
02:01:32.000And because you keep changing your story.
02:01:35.000Mr. Mosley, you can go out and find crazy people that think no planes hit the towers and then try to strawman claim them that we quote keep changing our story.
02:01:45.000I haven't changed my story from before 9-11.
02:01:47.000And I asked you yesterday, I said, have you heard of Operation Northwoods?
02:01:52.000And you said that you had heard me talk about it, but that you didn't know about it.
02:01:56.000Shouldn't you go find out if my claim about an official U.S.
02:01:59.000government document to carry out 9-11 style attacks, shouldn't you go find out if that exists, or you just decide that doesn't exist?
02:02:05.000Well, I don't believe it exists, but I think that most of the argument here is the fallacy of the possible.
02:02:12.000You say because it could have happened, therefore it did.
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02:05:53.000It's not about left and right, it's about right and wrong.
02:06:00.000About to go back to our guest, Jonathan Mosley, who a lot of folks that snipe at us won't come on and take their medicine, but he's doing it, so I gotta commend him.
02:06:11.000Get ready, I'm gonna open the gates on him in a minute.
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02:06:55.000And my new film Terror Storm is out, the best film I've ever made.
02:06:59.000Conclusively, right off CIE.gov, Library of Congress, Members of Parliament, government experts, their own documents where the government admits they carry out hundreds of terror attacks.
02:07:19.000You do that by blowing the fake conservatives politically out of the water, showing how they control the liberals, how Hillary's on the payroll, Clinton's on the payroll.
02:07:28.000You expose how they're terrorists and we can defeat them together.
02:07:31.000We can actually get the country back instead of being pacified by these government operatives out there that pose as conservatives.
02:07:37.000And then you've got the well-meaning folks out there.
02:07:39.000Like Jonathan Mosley, who joins us now.
02:07:48.000Tell us why we're smirching, profaning, to use your language, the memory of the 3,000 dead on 9-11.
02:07:55.000Well, one of the biggest things that upsets me about this is that the effect of this is to not guard us against a real enemy.
02:08:03.000Now, if there are other enemies and other people we need to bring to justice, that's fine.
02:08:06.000But we know we have an enemy out there that wants to kill us.
02:08:09.000And the effect of this is saying, drop your guard.
02:08:11.000It's like a boxer letting his guard down so he can get walloped again.
02:08:16.000Now, I know that from your perspective, you don't want to be blamed for what other conspiracy theorists are saying about this.
02:08:23.000And one of the points I make is that there's a mishmash of different theories out there.
02:08:28.000And as a consequence of that, people say, oh, there's overwhelming evidence.
02:08:31.000But the overwhelming evidence is all contradicting each other.
02:08:35.000From your perspective, you want to be held accountable for your beliefs, but from the perspective of the country and people listening, they're hearing it all.
02:08:42.000I don't know how to respond to that, but we keep hearing all this craziness go back and forth, and it does keep changing when they encounter facts, they just switch to another argument.
02:08:54.000There is only one official story, but there's hundreds of alternatives, which of course can't all be wrong.
02:09:00.000But the thing is that There are several formats here of what happened.
02:09:07.000What got me into this, you know, considering what their memory of Barbara Olsen, who I knew, is to hear these facts being asserted.
02:09:13.000Then you go back and you check on them, and the initial fact turns out to be false.
02:09:17.000Now, I don't know, that might not be true of your arguments, but it's true of an awful lot of the stuff out there.
02:09:22.000Beginning with the idea that, you know, there's a 16-foot hole in the Pentagon, when the engineers measured it at 90 feet, and there's hundreds of eyewitnesses.
02:09:42.000The other thing is that what bothers me most is that people say, well, this is not plausible.
02:09:46.000They then suggest something that's infinitely less plausible.
02:09:50.000That there are thousands of people with no motivation to keep quiet who've all kept silent, including civilian radar operators and airline personnel.
02:10:00.000The airlines lost billions of dollars.
02:10:13.000You just had three minutes, and I want to run over what you just said briefly, and then I'll let you continue to spout that stuff.
02:10:21.000Number one, you say people wouldn't keep quiet.
02:10:24.000FBI agent Robert Wright got up on C-SPAN at the National Press Club and held up a letter where he'll be threatened under national security for treason.
02:10:33.000If he tells the public what he knows, he begins crying and breaks down and says, all I can tell you is, the Bush's vacation with the Bin Ladens.
02:10:43.000And then we get the memorandum from the President, W199I, ordering The FBI and CIA and Defense Intelligence, Able Danger, which we now have even more on, to back off the Bin Laden operations in Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as AQ Khan Laboratories in Pakistan developing hydrogen weapons and delivery systems, and it's now all on record.
02:11:06.000And I'm sure with that you'll say it doesn't exist.
02:11:09.000I'm sorry, everything I just said does exist in triplicate mainstream news.
02:11:13.000Also, There were countless other FBI and other government people who were threatened with arrest if they wouldn't shut up.
02:11:20.000When a colonel blew the whistle, they tried to charge him for $67 of unauthorized cell phone calls to his wife.
02:11:27.000This is the type of stuff that's going on.
02:11:28.000They threatened Sybil Edmonds with arrest.
02:11:33.000Also, don't try to say they couldn't keep something this big secret.
02:11:36.000They used drills to smoke screen it, compartmentalize, inside these different government agencies.
02:11:42.000And they kept the Manhattan Project secret with over 100,000 employees for four years, and other facets of it secret for over a decade.
02:11:51.000Then you say Pentagon, which I've always said is a honeypot by design, and I haven't messed with it, but I've stated on record that clearly what they show in the news is a 16-foot hole.
02:12:00.000Then it collapses, and it is 75 to 95 feet, depending on which thing you talk about.
02:12:05.000Then you talk about how we have all these different stories, but the government has one unified story.
02:12:11.000They've given five different reasons for Building 7 falling.
02:12:15.000They said there were no steel columns in the middle of Tower 1 and 2, and they have the biggest columns you can put in a building that size.
02:12:24.000You've got the entire commission being called independent, being appointed by George Bush.
02:12:28.000You've got a bunch of the commission on the Carlisle Group payroll, Zelikow and the rest of them.
02:12:33.000I'm going to stop right there and I'm just going to add that a lot of these people putting out the no planes at the Pentagon thing, I predicted stuff like this would happen.
02:12:41.000This is a classic setup where they put out ridiculous disinfo on purpose, buildings draw men, a lot of these are operatives, so then you guys can come discredit false stories.
02:12:50.000Go ahead, you've got three more minutes.
02:12:52.000Okay, well of course we kept the Manhattan Project secret because the people working on it knew it was in favor of their country and were patriots.
02:13:00.000No one watching the mass murder on television And see and all the, remember...
02:13:05.000The World Trade Center site was owned by the firefighters for weeks.
02:13:35.000To demolish the building the way I understand it is argued, you'd have to have 43,000 demolition devices, 236 steel columns around the outside.
02:13:44.000You know, some number inside, some people say 47.
02:13:48.000Then you times 80 or 90 floors, because you wouldn't know which floor.
02:13:53.000It would take a few hundred devices in Tower 1, which is larger explosives, and it would take several hundred devices in Building 7 with the classic bottom-down crimp blow.
02:14:03.000Well, of course, the news footage shows it falling from the top down.
02:14:07.000No controlled demolition in history has ever been from the top down.
02:15:25.000Then they said, no cameras, no photos.
02:15:27.000Well, how would they do that without 43,000 separate demolition devices?
02:15:33.000Major companies could have wired each one of those towers in two weeks apiece.
02:15:37.000They had major drills, they had evacuations, they had major floors closed down, they had all sorts of weird people.
02:15:42.000I've talked to the janitorial staff that were in there, just like Oklahoma City that Clinton pulled off when they caught the different guys in there with the grey sticks of butter drilling the columns.
02:15:54.000They told them they were maintenance people.
02:15:56.000Well, and you would have to drill the columns because you would have to put the explosive directly against it.
02:16:02.000But yeah, they did drill in Oklahoma City.
02:16:05.000Jane Graham, the head of HUD, witnessed them doing it.
02:16:07.000Okay, but then you'd need miles of wire.
02:16:09.000No, Bill Clinton didn't do it, he's nice.
02:16:11.000And you'd need miles of wire, and demolition experts have looked at that, that you always have to... No, you don't need miles of wire, you can go out the synchronized radio beacon.
02:16:19.000Okay, but you couldn't synchronize different floors that way with... Have you ever tried to take a radio inside of a... No, you have different layers on different radio frequencies.
02:16:27.000Have you ever tried to take a radio inside of a big steel building?
02:16:30.000Sure, the government has all sorts of systems, and they use radio a lot on these buildings.
02:16:34.000Okay, but steel doesn't... You're not answering Building 7, sir.
02:16:54.000Building 7 was the classic where you blow out the central column, then you blow out the outside columns, and it falls in on itself perfectly.
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02:22:02.000Professor Jim Fetzer, the founder and the head of 9-11 Scholars for Truth, has called in.
02:22:05.000We've also got Barry Homish listening.
02:22:08.000And I'll try to get him on in the next segment, and maybe I'll just try to keep our guests the entire hour, because people are just going wild to hear this.
02:22:14.000I would just add on the imploding and falling buildings.
02:22:17.000No modern steel building had ever collapsed from fire.
02:22:19.000He claims one that did, but that was a separate, smaller, older construction.
02:22:24.000And, I mean, you know, top scientists, the University of Edinburgh is on record, and BBC's saying one's never fallen.
02:22:30.000They just tried to burn a building down over a month period with different experiments, and they couldn't do it.
02:23:33.000But right now, I want to give Professor Fetzer, who you really hit the hardest in here, a chance to ask you some questions.
02:23:42.000Professor Fetzer, go ahead and make your statements.
02:23:45.000Yes, many of the claims this guy made during this internet exchange were actually corrected online.
02:23:49.000He nevertheless went ahead and put them, even knowing better, knowing that they were false or blunders, he nevertheless included them in his article.
02:23:56.000Now, this guy, for example, McCormick Place was a convention center.
02:24:00.000It wasn't a steel structure high-rise with welded and redundant features like the Twin Towers.
02:24:05.000So he simply pretends he doesn't know the difference.
02:24:07.000If he doesn't know the difference, he's incompetent.
02:24:09.000If he does know the difference, he's corrupt.
02:24:12.000He's been fanatical, even obsessive, about posting attacks on members of Scholars.
02:24:16.000I did a search, for example, Alex, on recent Mosley posts.
02:24:24.000On the 15th of August, he posted 15 attacks.
02:24:27.000His typical style was to post, then as soon as there was a response, he'd post again immediately.
02:24:32.000His whole style was immature and juvenile.
02:24:35.000If he was advancing serious arguments about our findings, they might have been justified in spite of that, but they committed elementary fallacies.
02:26:47.000I said some of the others are, but I cannot... About 90% of the discussion...
02:26:53.000uh... that we've had on the internet and discussion group i cannot wait a minute let me let me read back in here a professor professor in the report i've got the three-page article for it yeah i mean is there a part here where he does say that he's got a cute he quote he's got a cute little bit of you because he was back in our program yeah that that's correct that you have a lot of that he and it was a little bit about that is that i want to go to the bottom of this because uh... i mean obviously the
02:27:21.000The indication there is, ooh, he wanted to know if I was a Jew.
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02:31:12.000I sent him an email and asked him about his background because he was acting in such an obsessive, compulsive fashion.
02:31:18.000And I truly believe this had to be a child.
02:31:20.000In fact, I would insist that this man, he may be older, but he acts like a child.
02:31:25.000And I suggest that this person, if I had to guess, was about 15 years old, very bright, probably Jewish, possibly a resident of Brooklyn, attending a scientific technological high school.
02:31:36.000Who believes he's superior to everyone else and has an obsession to try to prove it, but I was commenting on his behavior, not the subject of his judge.
02:31:45.000Second of all, here's a couple of examples of the shoddy quality of his argument.
02:31:49.000He says the Twin Towers can't have come down as a result of controlled demolition because they blow out the first and second floors so the building falls down into its own footprint.
02:31:58.000But I pointed out to him online, before he published this article, that was an equivocation He's just talking about the standard kind of controlled demolition, as in the case of Building 7.
02:32:07.000I pointed out then and emphasized, we're talking about a special kind of controlled demolition.
02:32:11.000It's still a controlled demolition, just because it's from the top down.
02:32:14.000It's not the standard kind, that's all.
02:32:16.000But Building 7 was from the bottom down.
02:32:19.000Yeah, Building 7 was a standard controlled demolition, just like we see in Las Vegas.
02:32:22.000A few minutes ago he was saying that wasn't the case.
02:33:22.000You go back and say, no, it didn't fall exactly like a controlled demolition.
02:33:26.000Now he's saying it's a special controlled demolition that nobody's ever seen before.
02:33:29.000Okay, but the original thesis was, we're suspicious because it looks like a controlled demolition when it doesn't.
02:33:35.000Well, but that's stupid because... Mr. Mobley, let me say something.
02:33:38.000Sir, we say that because the firefighters reported bombs and explosions, and they reported squibs, and on all the videos, 7, 1, and 2, you see the blast points, sir.
02:35:26.000That's why I'm saying, if you have a theory of the speed of light, and just because ten people are wrong about their theory, including the government's story, one of them is right.
02:35:37.000So yeah, to say, because there's an argument, every form of science and research and, you know, detectives at a cop shop, they're going to be disagreeing, but somebody's going to be right.
02:35:47.000See, I pointed out to Professor Fetzer online that They claim to have evidence proving all of these different inconsistent theories.
02:35:55.000And if there is evidence proving all of them... That's interpretive!
02:36:13.000This guy could not get through a critical thinking class that I teach to our freshmen.
02:36:18.000Well, I hope you take that course, because you can't stay on one topic.
02:36:21.000Well, sir, can you specifically, going back to Jones, can you specifically tell us where, well, number one, you are saying here that he agreed with the overthrow of the government, and I've watched those tapes over and over again.
02:36:37.000Can you specifically tell me what Jones said?
02:36:39.000Yes, he was asked, is there a way to achieve our goals without a violent overthrow?
02:36:45.000He then echoed the Declaration of Independence preamble which is a call for revolution by deliberately echoing the language and format which is an argument for revolution And then ended up saying, there is no peaceful way to achieve our means.
02:37:00.000This is completely false and misleading.
02:37:02.000He said we have to follow the Constitution.
02:37:03.000Well, we're going to get the exact clip and we're going to post it.
02:37:06.000We're doing a big story on this because, you know, this goes into the psychology of people like Mr. Mosley.
02:37:14.000But again, I can't help but appreciate him.
02:37:16.000Jim, at least he will come on and debate us and go head to head with us.
02:38:36.000It was the premier exhibition hall in America.
02:38:39.000And under ordinary fire, in 30 minutes, the steel failed.
02:38:42.000Now, the issue... You're talking about a lightly built convention center that has an umbrella roof and is not a heavy supportive structure.
02:38:51.000Those things are outward husk and then have a light topping, cheap construction.
02:39:49.000There were the firefighters reported that in both towers the fires were almost out and to call up more ladders to save the people and there were people standing in the holes for minutes waiting for help without burning or without being singed Begging for helicopter rescue that never came inches away from pillars that seconds later as they talked on cell phones blew up.
02:40:14.000Now go ahead, we gotta give him some time.
02:40:17.000Go ahead and finish up what you were saying, Jonathan.
02:40:19.000The same underwriters lab in their study of World Trade Center cited McCormick Place and a dozen other steel structures that have partially or completely failed.
02:40:28.000For the proposition, in Underwriters Lab's view, that structural steel does melt.
02:40:32.000No, they told the engineers that did the study to shut up and lie, and they wouldn't do it, so they got fired.
02:40:37.000Nope, the Underwriters Lab, because Mr. Fetzer, Professor Fetzer, Professor Fetzer is again changing the subject.
02:41:01.000It cannot have suffered from a pancake kind of collapse.
02:41:05.000I got a structural engineer on this website to correct him on McCormick Place and on the capacity of the Twin Towers to subject to pancake collapse.
02:41:14.000When this guy is corrected, he just goes ahead and repeats his own phony arguments, whether they commit equivocation or logical blunders or no matter what.
02:41:22.000He has the mind of a 15-year-old and he's obsessed to prove himself correct, no matter how wrong he may be.
02:41:28.000Look, because Professor Fetz comes back with DREC.
02:41:30.000He talks about melting steel instead of structural collapse.
02:41:34.000Well, sir, listen, the University of Edinburgh, with their top engineers, for a month every day, tried to burn down a 24-story steel building, similar construction.
02:41:45.000They couldn't get anything to even weaken.
02:41:47.000All they could get was sheetrock to cave in.
02:42:09.000Listen, it's been well known that buildings are safe.
02:42:12.000Listen, listen, listen, Edinburgh's doing these tests because they say this changes insurance everything.
02:42:17.000If buildings will suddenly collapse from kerosene, coal-burning fuel, black, burning, you know, smoke, low-oxygen flames, and you can run through this stuff, if this is the case, then the laws of physics have been suspended.
02:42:47.000I've pointed out repeatedly that Frank DiMartini, who was the construction manager on the World Trade Center, had observed that they were designed to withstand the impact of the largest then commercial airliner, Boeing 707.
02:43:36.000And do you understand the bomb effect of 30,000 kilograms of jet fuel going off in the middle, in the center of the building as a gigantic bomb?
02:43:48.000They've done analysis, sir, of the pounds per square inch pressure generated by that fuel detonating, and it is thousands of times too weak to even blow out the smallest columns.
02:45:24.000Uh, he lives in Netanya, and now he, um, he's just saying that we designed the building to take any sort of a plane, and he doesn't believe the planes brought it down.
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02:52:25.000Professor Fetzer, just in closing here, anything else you'd like to say about 9-11?
02:52:30.000Well, I think that Mosley's last point well illustrates his incapacity to come to grips with the facts in this matter.
02:52:38.000He said that the plane that actually hit the building was very different than the 707s that they were designed to accommodate, and in fact precisely the opposite is the case.
02:52:49.000The physical properties, the mass, and even the fuel capacity of these planes are very comparable, and I found at least three other engineers who agreed with Frank DiMartini that the buildings were constructed to withstand the impact of those airliners.
02:53:03.000His point here is either deliberately deceiving us or he's utterly incompetent because he has no familiarity with the facts of the case.
02:53:28.000Well, the Boeing website reports the mass fully loaded as being double for the aircraft that hit the World Trade Center than a 707.
02:53:36.000And the theory in the 60s was that an aircraft going around 180 miles an hour lost from the airport might hit it.
02:53:45.000Uh, philosophy professor, Fitzer, apparently doesn't know that the kinetic energy increases with the square of speed.
02:53:51.000Well, listen, you're a lawyer, he's a professor, we all have rights to have our views and study, but you keep implying by saying he's a philosophy professor that we don't have a bunch of scientists trained in engineering and physics that have come to the same conclusion.
02:54:09.000He appears not even to know that my PhD is in the history of science and the philosophy of science, the history of science.
02:54:17.000I've published 27 books on technical subjects and have taught critical thinking, logic, and scientific reasoning for 35 years.
02:54:23.000I can spot blunders when they occur, and you commit them all the time.
02:54:28.000I've explained them to you, and you went ahead and published them anyway.
02:54:31.000That's completely irresponsible, and the product is intellectual rubbish.
02:54:35.000This is what Kevin Ryan said, and we'll get to the bottom of it.
02:54:39.000He's emailed WorldNetDaily and has said, the numerous false statements made in the article by John Mosley that he recently published, at least one should result in legal action.
02:54:50.000Anyone who actually listened to the C-SPAN broadcast and 9-11 Scholars Group can clearly hear that Mosley's quote of Stephen Jones is inaccurate, to say the least.
02:54:59.000Dr. Jones did not say that there is no peaceful way to achieve the group's goals and Dr. Jones has not promoted violence in any of his presentations.
02:55:07.000A correction of this libelous error might be wise choice.
02:55:11.000Thanks Kevin Ryan, UL Laboratories former underwriter engineer.
02:55:15.000You want to comment to his email he's put out?