Bill Christensen and Sean Dilley join host Alex Jones on the show to talk about 9/11, the murder of Princess Diana, the assassination of Dr. David Kelly, and so much more. Alex's new film 'Terrorist Storm' is out now and it's available on Amazon Prime Video, Blu-ray, and also rental on Vimeo.
00:00:45.000I'm so honored that you have decided to join us today.
00:00:49.000We have two amazing guests joining us later in the broadcast.
00:00:54.000We have Bill Christensen, who is a former government official who will be exposing corruption here on air with us.
00:01:05.000And we also have Sean Dilley, who is a national radio broadcaster in the United Kingdom, and he'll be talking about a whole host of issues, 9-11, the murder of Princess Diana, the murder of Dr. David Kelly, and so much more.
00:01:20.000But that is coming up later in the broadcast.
00:01:25.000Right now, a wave of resignations hit Blair as he warns of electoral defeat.
00:02:32.000It's exactly where the government wants us.
00:02:34.000A bunch of ninnying, shaking, cowardly pieces of filth.
00:02:40.000A bunch of domesticated, braying, buying sheep.
00:02:46.000Meanwhile, Chicago plans voluntary evacuation drill downtown.
00:02:51.000Exercise to test emergency preparedness, Associated Press.
00:02:55.000The real exercise is in practicing a federal takeover of the city, terrorizing the public, and creating the subconscious illusion that there really is a terrorist threat.
00:03:05.000We'll go into drills as well and why and how they are using them.
00:03:13.000Yesterday I covered a Register article where Google is announcing they're going to use the microphones that are standard on most new computers and on many old ones
00:03:22.000To use NSA style programs to record everything you say and do, and record what you're watching on television off the audio, and with keywords, assess that and then put it into your master file, of course for sale to different advertising agencies, that's one level, and then of course the real level is the government collating all of that data as well.
00:03:44.000Yes, it is the equivalent Of catching your neighbor sneaking in your house and planting a camera.
00:03:52.000You would freak out, you would yell, you would scream, you would call the police.
00:03:55.000You would be in your front yard, probably waving a gun around.
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00:05:25.000Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, Secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.
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00:08:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:21.000Bill Christensen is a former high-level CIA analyst. -
00:08:38.000A few years ago, he basically stopped belittling 9-11 conspiracy theories in his own mind after starting to research them, and he wrote an article a few months ago, and I believe this is going to be his first big radio interview.
00:08:52.000We've been trying to get him for a while.
00:08:54.000Stop belittling the theories about September 11th.
00:08:58.000There's a story he wrote again a few months ago, and now he's written several more concerning September 11th.
00:09:04.000He'll be joining us, and then again, Sean Dilley, national radio broadcaster out of the United Kingdom, to talk about the police state, the RFID chips, the murder of political dissidents, and a lot more that is coming up.
00:09:21.000Guess what's on the cover of the Austin American-Statesman today?
00:09:28.000Being watched becoming a part of life.
00:09:31.000That's the caption above a huge front page color photograph of the City of Austin Situation Center, the FEMA Command Bunker, that's what it really is, and here they are introducing the people of Austin to how they're now being surveilled.
00:09:49.000You see, we're now in the preparatory phase where they're announcing, hey, Google's going to listen to you over the microphone on your computer and Collate all that.
00:09:59.000Hey, your cable box isn't just tracking everything you watch and what your habits are.
00:10:05.000It also has the capability to listen to you as well.
00:11:16.000I remember in 1999, Kay Bailey Hutchinson got a bill passed for all over the country, but gave the plum to Austin and Texas, don't worry, to put up hundreds, and they've done it each year since, I don't know the full number, we know it's in the hundreds and hundreds and they've done it each year since, I don't know the full number, we know it's in the hundreds We don't just have, we don't just have
00:12:19.000Land of the cowards, home of the pathetic jellyfish.
00:12:23.000Not land of the free, home of the brave.
00:12:26.000It says the city of Austin uses cameras in 165 places to keep track of traffic and respond to problems.
00:12:33.000Ali Mozabar, the city's lead traffic engineer, says the workers who monitor the 25 screens in the traffic management center are watching the cars, not the people.
00:12:44.000And that's a true statement by Ollie Mosdabard.
00:12:48.000I remember when I interviewed in 1998, John Hurt, the public spokesman, I think he still is for the entire state of Texas for TxDOT, Texas Department of Transportation, and we got a video interview with this.
00:13:00.000We ought to go dig out all those little shows and put them on the web.
00:13:02.000We've been putting some of them up, but it's important to see this evolution.
00:13:06.000And I said, so there's hundreds of cameras in Austin.
00:13:12.000And I said, uh, but these are being used for law enforcement and surveillance.
00:13:15.000He said, nope, we don't engage in law enforcement at TxDOT.
00:13:18.000And I said, ah, but these feeds are hooked into your sister agency, the Texas Department of Public Safety, the state police.
00:13:25.000He said, Alex, you ought to be a lawyer.
00:13:27.000He laughed, because, you know, here I am, I'm not that smart, I just know their elementary trick of compartmentalizing things in their statements.
00:13:37.000And it is a lie, but it's a lawyerly lie that you can technically claim isn't a lie.
00:13:44.000They've got little peep cameras that are fiber optic, thousands of them.
00:13:50.000There are, again, I don't know, let's count it up.
00:13:52.000It started at 99, and it said 200 plus microphones each year in the grant.
00:13:56.000I know the grant's been reauthorized each year, so let me see.
00:14:41.000So 750,000 people have microphones in their houses.
00:14:48.000And they have their Orwellian Crime Stop built into their heads.
00:14:52.000Crime Stops, whenever you think about something bad Big Brother's doing, you don't let yourself focus on it and you deny it to yourself because thinking bad things about Big Brother is a crime, so hence Crime Stop.
00:15:06.000And last night we had a great event showing Terror Storm at the Alamo Draft House, South Lamar.
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00:15:46.000You know, we covered yesterday that big poll they did where 51% of Americans think that the NSA surveillance is good now.
00:15:52.000They didn't before all the fake bust and the announcements that NSA spying stopped the liquid bombers and the evil Miami people and the rest of it.
00:16:02.000It's all come out later to be provocateured and staged, but that doesn't matter.
00:16:21.000That's a little sarcastic statement at us.
00:16:23.000Well, congratulations, you already are.
00:16:25.000Every day at work, on the street, in retail stores, in schools, at cash machines, in the parking garage, in your car, and soon, if the Austin City Council approves using cameras to police traffic signals at selected traffic intersections, And you, of course, will be ticketed with that.
00:16:42.000Security experts say the rapidly improving digital video technology and terrorism concerns, see, they're going to use it, they are using it for terror, quote, crime.
00:16:52.000All crime is terror, in their definition.
00:16:54.000Quoting by an influx of money from the federal security grants.
00:16:58.000Security experts say that rapidly improving digital video technology and terrorism concerns, accompanied by an influx of money from federal security grants, Have combined to foster an explosion of cameras in public places.
00:17:13.000In Britain, which reportedly has 1.5 million surveillance cameras on the job.
00:17:40.000In Britain, which reportedly has 1.5 million surveillance cameras on the job, and in certain large American cities, officials have moved towards having blanket camera coverage in core downtown areas to, in theory, determine crime, deter crime, and provide video surveillance and evidence for catching and prosecuting miscreants.
00:17:59.000Depending on where you live and what you're doing, video forensics experts Grant Fredericks of Spokane, Washington said you may be filmed dozens of times a day or more.
00:18:09.000In Britain, in cities, the average person is captured 300 times a day by a surveillance camera.
00:18:34.000Don't worry, Google isn't listening to you.
00:18:37.000I mean, we're recording you, but then the computer just turns it into text, and so it's zeros and ones.
00:18:43.000Well, see, that's the weird little mental illness spin they put on it.
00:18:49.000You see, they always broach it like it isn't surveillance.
00:18:52.000Oh, because we turn it into zeros and ones.
00:18:55.000Oh, when we face scan you, it isn't your face.
00:18:57.000It's zeros and ones, but it's reconfigured to your face to a picture and use to track you.
00:19:04.000I mean it's just it's... but I have people walk up to me on the street and I get emails going, well they say that that ain't a thumb print and they say that it's not a face print and they say it's for traffic but in the article it says that well yes part of the use is traffic but it's also to surveil you and by the way we're going to give you tickets with it and all of
00:19:31.000That's going to go the way of the Goomy Bird because they're going right to RFID in your inspection stickers.
00:19:41.000I know I started the show with this yesterday and I'm starting it again today because even I have become conditioned to basically become acclimated and accepting of this.
00:19:52.000I mean, we're all under mass mind control.
00:19:54.000We're all being conditioned, including this reporter, Ben Weir.
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00:24:07.000Let me say it again so it sinks in real good.
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00:24:20.000I'm going to go ahead and get a moment.
00:24:22.000Scientific Atlantic digital cable boxes, most of them have microphones.
00:24:26.000TiVo tracks everything you watch and do and uploads the data.
00:24:31.000When you call and order pizzas from the Big 3 pizza chains.
00:24:36.000It is instantly, your location, your name is instantly uploaded through a private company to the federal government and instead of getting a pizza, you get a SWAT team if you're wanted.
00:24:45.000Again, we're all being treated as criminals, no Fourth Amendment, no Fifth Amendment, TOTAL CONTROL!
00:24:53.000Cameras going in everywhere, microphones going in everywhere!
00:24:57.000The microphones in your computers, built into them, The government can dial in and have NSA computers or that type of software that private industry has, i.e.
00:25:09.000Google, and record all of the voice, all of the conversations.
00:26:05.000Face scanning cameras, scan your faces, put it through the software, almost all the digital cameras put up by the feds with these grants are then wired back into the federal government.
00:26:15.000I remember about five years ago, right before 9-11, my dad called me one morning about 7 and said, turn on C-SPAN, I'm having breakfast.
00:26:21.000And they had The, uh, one of the head scientists at the, uh, Federal Department of Transportation on, and they were bragging, showing different cities, and they'd just shown Austin, punching up the traffic cameras and the neighborhood cameras.
00:26:35.000The feds pay for it because the military designed it!
00:26:40.000And has bragged in major newspapers that it is considered a occupational control grid.
00:26:47.000We are literally under NORTHCOM control!
00:26:52.000This is being put into place so these bastards can literally rape our society!
00:26:58.000The cage is all around us and it makes me angry!
00:27:04.000And then we read statesman articles about, oh, this is Mr. Dozens Edge.
00:28:11.000Remember a few years ago in Tennessee, the visiting girls basketball team, 8th graders, go into the showers, and a girl sees a camera in the shower, and she ran out screaming, and that's a normal response.
00:28:22.000And the principal and the school police came and said, hey, what's the big news?
00:28:48.000There's these weak-minded people everywhere!
00:28:51.000And then, of course, the principal got in trouble because it turned out that it was being sent all over the country over secure internet connections from Tennessee to North Carolina to Texas to Ohio.
00:29:05.000And then it comes out that the principals didn't even put in their own little private cameras in there, and they're accessing them from home.
00:29:14.000You see, you read 1984 where they're in the park whispering.
00:29:18.000And it turns out there was a microphone in the park picking them all up.
00:29:21.000Then I read articles how they're putting microphones up all over the parks in the U.S.
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00:33:44.000I have one of the technical papers put out by Google scientists.
00:33:48.000This one is Social and Interactive Television Applications Based on Real-Time Ambient Audio Identification.
00:33:56.000And this is put out by Michael Fink, Center for Neural Computation, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Google Research, Incorporated, Mountain View, California.
00:34:21.000I turned to page two of this huge report and it says personal broadcast content and you flip to it and it says real-time popularity ratings and TV broadcast bookmarks and it goes on to describe how this works It says this community allows members.
00:35:26.000It's the same thing they say, oh don't worry when we thumb scan you at the grocery store it isn't really a fingerprint it's just some numbers but it's measurements between the unique spirals on the index finger or the palm or the thumb and then they reconstitute it with that digital map with the what 14, 16, 20 different indicators depending on what system and then it gives them your exact thumbprint.
00:36:11.000He was going, look at this, look at this!
00:36:13.000It says that 7 billion images of people's faces have been uploaded and then the government could never get these digital photos from everybody.
00:36:40.000But listen, I'm digressing and I'm kind of...
00:36:43.000Flummoxed here because this is so bad I can't even describe how bad it is.
00:36:47.000But again, the viewer's acoustic privacy is maintained by the irreversibility of the mapping from audio to summary statistics.
00:36:54.000Unlike the Speech Enabled Proactive Agent by Hong Kong ETAL 2001, That's the system, listen over your microphones.
00:37:04.000Our approach will not overhear conversations.
00:37:06.000Furthermore, no one receiving or intercepting these statistics is able to eavesdrop on such conversations since the original audio does not leave the viewer's computer and the summary statistics are insufficient for recognition.
00:37:19.000It's the same lie which the registered, to their credit, their tech people exposed.
00:37:26.000See, they're saying that Google has the only key To unencrypt your voice.
00:37:58.000And let me tell you something, that is a normal response to these type of insults.
00:38:05.000And they're going to be announcing now in the next few years how the microphone listens to you, but then telling you, oh, it's just digital data.
00:38:11.000Of course it's all digital zeros and ones.
00:39:02.000And the argument is, if they don't do it, somebody else will.
00:39:05.000Folks, you're... And they get you addicted to the computers, they get you addicted to digital cable, they get you addicted to DVR, TiVo, and all the rest of it.
00:39:17.000And it's just everything you're doing is being tracked.
00:39:19.000Everything you're doing is being traced.
00:39:21.000And when you walk out on the street, your face is being scanned, your walk's being scanned.
00:39:26.000A bunch of airports have put in passive MRIs that scan your brain.
00:39:29.000I mean, this is thousands of times past 1984.
00:39:32.000And, of course, all these systems picked up the hijackers on 9-11 in the months before.
00:39:41.000FBI that was compartmentalized in defense intelligence and animal danger, they tried to stop them, and the government would tell them, hey, these are government agents, back off, this is a secret program.
00:39:54.000But the general public is still in denial.
00:39:56.000You understand, we have murdering killers in control.
00:40:02.000Who are putting in a total control grid to track and trace everything we do.
00:40:07.000And now, all over big cities in the U.S., the government is sampling the detritus, the human excrement, in the sewage lines.
00:40:15.000And they're talking about putting sensors in at junctions and using mandatory DNA tracing to test the excrement and be able to Identify the molecules connections to the feces or the urine and coming and arresting you.
00:40:32.000Automatic drug testing in the sewer lines.
00:41:36.000Furthermore, no one receiving or intercepting these statistics is able to eavesdrop on such conversations since the original audio does not leave a viewer's computer and the summary statistics are insufficient for reconstruction.
00:41:50.000So, they seize control of your computer, they use the microphone, and then what they're saying is they encode it when it leaves and it goes into a statistical bucket.
00:42:02.000Further, the system can easily be designed to use an explicit mute unmute button to give the viewer full control of when acoustic statistics are collected for transmission.
00:42:14.000They always say that about cookies, about everything, and then there's no amount of software that will block it or stop it.
00:42:21.000Although we apply our technicians and techniques to television, we do not use the visual channel as our data source.
00:42:28.000Instead, we use audio for three pragmatic reasons.
00:42:32.000Now again, you read through here, it says they're going to be listening to the radio in your home, The TV in your home, and your speech in your home, and transcribing it all, and they brag and hear how they can take four or five sources, a party of chattering people, and they can separate all those out and create data lines on it.
00:42:51.000They know who you are by your speech patterns, your voice print.
00:42:56.000I mean, this isn't just like a Big Brother microphone in your house.
00:43:41.000The software the cameras are hooked into are smart.
00:43:45.000Some Macy's and Baby's R Us stores have installed a system called the Video Investigator, whose advanced surveillance software can compare a shopper's movements between video images and recognize unusual activity.
00:43:59.000Remove 10 items from a shelf at once, for instance, Or open a case that's normally kept closed or locked and the system alerts guards sitting in the back.
00:44:08.000Or pacing the sales floor with a shimmy or flashing screen.
00:44:14.000The system can predict where a shoplifter is likely to hide at the ends of aisles or behind floor displays.
00:44:20.000A search function spots sudden movement that might indicate a large spill, prompting workers to clean it up before it leads to a slip and a fall and an accident.
00:44:28.000And you go on and it just says how wonderful it is for Five pages.
00:45:36.000You see, all of this also has that effect of now the security guards just sit there lazily in the back doing nothing as if a security guard couldn't be taught the course how to watch the camera, how to look for people going behind structures, how to look for people doing suspicious things, how to do their job.
00:46:00.000You didn't used to have to have surveillance in stores because people didn't steal!
00:46:06.000We had a depression in this country and the crime rate went up a little bit, but not much, but there have been major studies done by universities and the government.
00:46:13.000You know what's going to happen if there's a depression?
00:46:15.000These soccer moms and these Lexus driving yuppies are going to turn into the most dangerous people you can imagine.
00:46:26.000The inner cities are going to melt down.
00:46:28.000Third world hordes are going to lay waste to entire cities.
00:46:35.000And the government is going to stand by and let them do it.
00:46:37.000Because they're going to bring this country down by hook or by crook.
00:46:42.000Look, I'm not trying to be negative here, folks.
00:47:04.000I've been breaking down what would happen.
00:47:06.000I've been telling you they're using your cable boxes to listen to you, using your computers to listen to you.
00:47:11.000Frankly, your computers and your cable boxes really aren't even yours.
00:47:15.000The government sets up these systems, develops these technologies, gives them to select corporations like Google and others, and they just implement it.
00:47:24.000And then they, no one told you, I mean, what would you do if a marketer came to your door and said, let me put a camera in your house to watch you, a microphone in your house to watch you, and I'm going to pay you $500 a month?
00:47:37.000If you caught your neighbor hiding a camera in your house, you would freak out!
00:47:42.000But they announced, it's the same story, oh, we're Taking your thumbprints, but we're not really taking your prints at the store, or at the Disney World, or at the Tanning Salon.
00:47:56.000They have big RFID and biometric conventions.
00:47:59.000And I remember, six, seven years ago, reading the minutes of their conventions, and they said, we will explain to the people that we're not really taking their prints.
00:48:05.000That it's all just numbers, and that'll put them to ease.
00:48:08.000And then I have to watch their PR people, in every case, say the same thing.
00:48:12.000Oh, we're not listening to your audio.
00:48:16.000We're just recording the audio, and then transcribing it, and then digitizing it, and scrambling it, and encrypting it, and then, don't worry, no one can get it, and it's not audio.
00:49:09.000This was recorded at 200 yards away with the system.
00:49:13.000And it also serves as a gunshot detector to triangulate.
00:49:17.000So they don't call it a microphone, they call it a gunshot detector.
00:49:22.000Seven years into these being put in in Austin and Chicago and New York, all over the country, Seven years into these being put in, you ever heard of them using a gunshot triangulator to bust somebody?
00:49:38.000And they're using it to listen to you.
00:49:40.000And the microphones are listening for keywords.
00:49:43.000And though the emergency management centers in every major city put in by FEMA in 1999, bigger cities even earlier, The moron staff at those facilities, they aren't allowed to dial into those functions.
00:49:59.000But those cameras and those microphones are hooked into the feds, and they are.
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00:54:29.000We really appreciate him spending time with us.
00:54:33.000Bill Christensen is a former senior official of the CIA.
00:54:36.000He was a National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979.
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00:54:46.000foreign policy and we've got him joining us.
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00:59:17.000Well, we're extremely honored to be joined by our guest.
00:59:23.000He came to our attention a few months ago when he wrote a great article titled, Stop Belittling the Theories about September 11th, Bill Christensen.
00:59:34.000We'll also take phone calls with our guest.
00:59:39.000He's been a former member of Veterans for Intelligence Sanity.
00:59:45.000And Bill Christensen is a former senior official of the CIA.
00:59:49.000He was an actual intelligence officer and the director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979.
00:59:56.000Since then, he has written numerous articles on U.S.
00:59:59.000foreign policies, and we are joined by him now.
01:00:03.000We have links on InfoWars.com, some of his recent writings, and we're, again, really honored that he's going to spend time with us.
01:00:12.000Well, listen, thank you for having me, very much.
01:00:16.000I'm grieving for our country, the police state it's turning into, how the war on terror is being used to dismantle our Constitution, the drumbeat for war with Iran.
01:00:25.000I want to get your take on all of that and why you've been questioning the official story of 9-11, but first, tell us about Bill Christensen.
01:00:32.000Okay, I did work for the CIA for, oh my goodness, 28 and a half years or so, but I've been long retired.
01:00:47.000I'm a neophyte in this entire business of studying and comprehending, trying to comprehend better, what happened on September 11, 2001.
01:01:00.000And I have to confess to you, and I know you are one of those who has worked his heart out on this issue a lot longer than I have, and you probably know a lot
01:01:13.000A lot more about it than I do, but up to half a year ago, I just wasn't buying any of the concepts that you and a number of others have been urging and advocating because I just couldn't conceive that this country had any elements in its government that would contribute
01:01:43.000to what happened on September 11 or caused it to happen or allow it to happen.
01:01:53.000And ultimately, just about half a year ago, I decided, well, too many people are talking about this for me to sort of sit here in my little ivory tower and say, I don't believe it.
01:02:09.000And that's when I really began to study and read and it took me some mental agony and it took me probably the better part of the last half year to change my mind.
01:02:27.000There is simply so much evidence available today
01:02:33.000That the official story that the government of the United States and the 9-11 Commission that issued this 500-plus page report, almost the length of a Bible I suppose, a couple of years ago, there is just so much evidence that many parts of this official story are simply wrong and don't match with the facts that
01:03:03.000You know, I'm not pleased or proud with my own activity over the last half dozen years, over five years since September 11th, that it took me this long to wise up.
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01:07:40.000Bill Christensen is our guest, and for stations that just joined us, I want to recap some of the things that we just talked about.
01:07:47.000Bill Christensen is a former senior official of the CIA, Central Intelligence Agency.
01:07:51.000He was a National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979.
01:07:59.000And he has been writing and lecturing for many years and doing a lot of radio interviews on the subject of our foreign policy.
01:08:05.000But in the last six months, he has begun to research 9-11.
01:08:08.000He couldn't bring himself to believe that the official story could be a fraud.
01:08:12.000He just talked about that in the last segment.
01:08:14.000And this is the first time he's gone public on radio with the serious concerns that he has concerning an inside job.
01:08:21.000We're extremely honored that he's chosen to do that here with us today and we appreciate his patriotism in defense of this republic.
01:08:29.000Sir, this is a longer segment so we've got more time.
01:08:31.000Can you go back through and then expand on your awakening process, where you began to research?
01:08:37.000where you began to look at the official story and discover that it was a fable.
01:08:40.000And then I want to tie it into the Iraq War.
01:08:44.000And we talked during the break, and we discussed how 9-11 has really been a foundational event for the entire geopolitical strategy that's being carried out by the neocons and their corporate owners and handlers.
01:09:01.000Well, listen, thanks a lot for the opportunity.
01:09:04.000Anyway, though, I spent the first four and a half years after September 11 just not willing to believe in the possibility that the story, the official stories we were being given about what happened on 9-11 the official stories we were being given about what happened on 9-11 could in any way be I just wasn't, I just wasn't going to believe that about our own Government.
01:09:34.000And ultimately, just about half a year ago, it dawned on me that not only was I trying to avoid an issue that might be extraordinarily important, more important than any other issue affecting U.S.
01:09:50.000policies, but that I hadn't even been studying the issue because I just decided it couldn't be true, so therefore, don't waste your time on it, Bill.
01:10:02.000So I started to spend my time on it about half a year ago, and a few people whom I knew encouraged me to do that.
01:10:12.000A lot of people told me they thought I was ridiculous to be wasting my time on that, but I have since decided that the, and this is after a good deal of heartache on my part, and a good deal of
01:10:31.000Wondering how this country could have gone so badly wrong when I then came to see that at least some elements in this U.S.
01:10:46.000government of ours had contributed in some way or other to causing 9-11 to happen, or at least allowing it to happen, making it easier for it to happen,
01:11:02.000Making sure it happened in a way that would be very, very impressive to the world at large and would, in fact, be seen as another Pearl Harbor type of event that changed everything about the United States 65 years ago.
01:11:19.000Did your decision to really start researching 9-11 six months ago, Mr. Christensen, did that come as an epiphany or was it a process?
01:11:32.000Yeah, well, I guess when you use the word epiphany you mean it's something that sort of happens instantly or overnight or something like that.
01:11:43.000So I'm not using that word epiphany, but just simply the more that I read about and tried to understand everything that had happened on 9-11 and saw
01:12:01.000All the objections to the official story, that people such as you and a number of others who had really been working sort of in the wilderness on this for the whole time since September 11, or shortly thereafter, the more I began to read and study, the more I discovered that I just had to conclude, yes indeed, there were
01:12:31.000Parts, at least parts, of the official story issued by the U.S.
01:12:36.000government and issued by the long, over 500 page report of the 9-11 Commission, there were parts of those official stories.
01:12:48.000That simply did not jive with the facts.
01:12:58.000The FBI grabbing the flight recorders and telling the firemen that found it to shut up, ordering the FAA to shred tapes, public officials warned not to fly, NORAD, Clearly standing down.
01:13:37.000We've now discovered An Air Force document from 97, Gulliver's prevails where they're saying we need a massive terror attack in 2002 to unify the US for global empire.
01:13:51.000I mean, what was it out of that field?
01:13:54.000And of course, there's hundreds of other points.
01:13:57.000I guess my question is first, You've been denying it, avoiding it, not looking at it.
01:14:01.000What did you first see, or when did you finally say, okay, I'll look at it, and then what was that process like, and what were the points that were really most important to you?
01:14:10.000You know, I guess the very first thing that made me really wonder was, and this is, I suppose, kind of elementary to you, but the size of the hole that was made in the Pentagon.
01:14:26.000And there was a picture in the New York Times the very next day, September 12th of 2001.
01:14:32.000And so I guess that was point number one with me.
01:14:42.000Now this is just sort of coincidence, I suppose.
01:14:48.000And then when you begin to read all of the details, and by the way, I have to tell you that David Bray Griffin's books have been an immense help to me because he has done a very careful job of writing this up and his views have gradually grown stronger from his first book to the current one.
01:15:48.000So, in any case, his stuff has had some influence on me.
01:15:56.000But, you know, after what happened at the Pentagon, you begin to read up on the evidence behind the belief that the reason the
01:16:09.000Two towers in New York actually collapsed and fell all the way to the ground, was controlled explosions, rather than just being hit by two airplanes, and that there's a third building that the 9-11 Commission apparently never even mentioned that also collapsed all the way to ground.
01:16:34.000And all of the characteristics of these explosions Show that they almost had to be controlled explosions rather than something that happened because they're hit by an airplane.
01:16:53.000And here you have one of the three buildings that collapsed, not hit by any airplane.
01:17:00.000And then you start looking at all the NORAD stuff and the way the 9-11 Commission handled the hour and 45 minutes or so when not a single one of these planes, according to the official story, was ever intercepted.
01:17:19.000Maybe Flight 93 was intercepted in western Pennsylvania, but this kind of evidence just builds and builds and builds.
01:17:34.000I think some of the strongest, Mr. Christensen, is that we know that U.S.
01:17:38.000Embassy heads were told to let some of the supposed hijackers, including ADA, back in.
01:17:43.000When they wouldn't let them in, they got calls from the State Department saying that their terror listings were covers for covert operations.
01:17:52.000They were involved in anti-terror operations.
01:17:54.000Then we have all these news articles with them being trained in covert operations at U.S.
01:18:03.000Yeah, you're absolutely right, and there are, as I started this off by saying, I was a neophyte compared to you and a number of other people, and that's absolutely true.
01:18:12.000I know out there, because I've heard of it, that there are a lot of things I haven't even studied yet.
01:18:23.000You're here because you're a great former CIA analyst, and it's a story of your courage now going public, and another example, another prominent We're going to come right back.
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01:23:40.000I don't want to think a bunch of psychopathic killers are in control.
01:23:43.000But when you look at Operation Northwoods and PNAC documents, and then you look at all the evidence, physical on 9-11, there's no other.
01:23:51.000I mean, if you really rationally study it, which I've done for thousands of hours over the years, it is horrifying.
01:23:59.000I've made three films on the subject, and I've written a book on the subject, and it's just terrible.
01:24:06.000Mr. Christensen, also, I want to get your take on, we've been lied to about WMDs, the documents have come out, White House memo that they premeditatedly lied, not just Downing Street memo.
01:24:16.000We know that over three trillion dollars is missing from the Pentagon in the last seven years, and I've seen congressional testimony where Rumsfeld says, we're not going to tell you where it is.
01:24:26.000There is mass no-bid contract looting going on.
01:24:30.000There are all sorts of scandals going on, but I mean, really, I see a dictatorship forming here, but we've been lied to so many times in the past by these people, and they've done so many horrible things, and they've lied us into war that's killed 3,000 U.S.
01:24:47.000I mean, it's not much of a stretch from the get-go to believe that criminal elements of our government wouldn't be involved in 9-11.
01:24:54.000No, and you simply have to ask yourself, where did all this come from?
01:25:03.000You almost have to answer your own question now.
01:25:07.000Well, it came from the events of 9-11.
01:25:11.000And even if there is only a 10% chance that elements of the U.S.
01:25:18.000government were involved in contributing to 9-11, making sure that those events worked more effectively than they might have otherwise,
01:25:32.000It is just appalling, the conclusion you come to, that elements within our own government are responsible, not only for the deaths that occurred on September 11th, but responsible for terribly bad policies throughout the entire Middle East, and those policies are still being pursued.
01:25:59.000And all of this is going to hurt the United States of America very badly, and not just A few years to come, but in decades to come.
01:26:10.000Yeah, it's destroying our good name, our economy, but it's good for the oil companies and the arms manufacturers, and they're international.
01:26:36.000But as David Ray Griffin has said, when you then look at all the facts and lay them side by side, a very clear picture emerges of not just letting it happen or aiding it.
01:26:47.000The evidence emerges that this was coordinated and clearly run out of the bowels of a quasi-private slash governmental black operations, black world system.
01:26:58.000Give us your view with a You know, I think the odds are that Griffin is right and that it is a total inside job.
01:27:04.000the four or five scenarios that Griffin uses he says he believes it's the latter pure inside job what do you think with all the evidence laid in the end you know I I think the odds are that Griffin is right and that it is a total inside job I can conceive of a situation and this is where we need we just need more evidence but it's going to come up I
01:27:33.000I can conceive of a situation where we, the U.S.
01:27:38.000government, learned in advance that September 11 was going to take place.
01:27:44.000And instead of instigating the whole thing, the U.S.
01:27:50.000government, who sure are nameless at this point, took the information that this was going to happen and made sure by their own actions that it happened in the most effective way possible.
01:28:12.000So greasing the skids and ordering the FBI and Army Intelligence and the CIA to back off and leave the people alone?
01:28:20.000And ordering the Air Force somehow to not go after these planes and Uh, the whole business of the three billion dollars, I'm sorry, the three trillion dollars... Stay there, stay there.
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01:33:04.000The reason it's so important To spread the word about 9-11 is because when you consciously realize that cold-blooded killers are in control and have seized control, have hijacked our government, elements of our government, and are using it to domestically set up a police state, to internationally turn us into an empire and invade foreign countries, and then hand over the seized assets to multinational corporations.
01:33:31.000When you realize that, you understand that we're trying to save lives here.
01:33:34.000The lives of our troops, The bodies of our troops, you know, countless others being wounded and maimed and triple and double and quad amputees.
01:33:45.000At the same time, justice for those that have been killed.
01:33:48.000The media loves to... I had the BBC here last week and they're like, what about the victim's families?
01:34:21.000The same people that will carry out a terror attack will take your pension funds.
01:34:25.000The same people that will carry out a terror attack will stage other terror attacks to expand their control.
01:34:31.000I mean, Bush is openly talking about dictatorship.
01:34:33.000He's openly talking about FEMA camps and the Houston Chronicle.
01:34:36.000They're openly talking about total control.
01:34:39.000We are literally Going down the road towards Hitler's Germany, or the East Germans, or Stalin, and that is the norm in human history.
01:34:48.000Freedom and liberty is a precious, precious rare commodity.
01:34:52.000Now I'm up here preaching, I want to go back to our guest Bill Christensen, but Bill, and of course you were a former big-time analyst for the CIA, heading up one of their entire research divisions, but putting your analytical skills and your analysis skills to work here, Not just internationally, but the domestic police state we see unfolding, and the announcements by the mouthpieces on Fox News that people who criticize the government are really traitors and should be arrested.
01:35:37.000Others have done a lot longer than I have, and I admire you for doing it, and I'm sorry I've been so slow in doing it.
01:35:45.000The fact is, as we were talking a little bit earlier, David Griffin believes it's more or less totally an inside job.
01:35:56.000I've got to say, I think that is the most likely possibility, too.
01:36:01.000I would say some of the people involved obviously May have had some subsidiary motives like the man in New York who owned a Building 7 and had a lease on the other two and had a great big new insurance policy that he had bought just a little bit before what happened on September 7.
01:36:26.000Yeah, and then there at the Pentagon, 2.3 trillion dollars somehow Lost and very conveniently all of the evidence of that seems to have been Have been damaged or totally ruined?
01:36:45.000I mean, let's talk about those numbers.
01:36:46.000It was a trillion-something when Bush got into office.
01:36:50.000The Pentagon argues about, you know, whether it's 2.5 or 3.5 and now some reports, but I have AP reports, you know, saying over two trillion from last year, reports from five years, six years ago, Oregonian reporting on it, and I've watched the congressional hearings.
01:37:05.000I mean, when we're talking about trillions missing, Again, they're not even getting in trouble for that.
01:37:38.000It was starting to break and I think somebody simply decided to capitalize knowing that 9-11 was going to happen and maybe was already being instigated by the U.S.
01:37:55.000I think probably the total inside job It's the most likely possibility, but I'm just holding my judgment on that.
01:38:04.000And by US, let's be clear here, and of course you've studied this as well, compartmentalized black ops contracting out to private agencies?
01:38:15.000There's obviously a whale of a lot of that going on, and that never happened in my time when I was officially working there.
01:38:24.000You know, I'm really pretty much of a I'm an old geezer these days, but this privatization of so much of the intelligence establishment, so much of the military establishment, just opens up greater possibilities for fraud, and I don't see how we're saving any money by going that route, frankly.
01:39:37.000We don't, you and I, at least I, don't really have a good feel if, if, if we have a group of people willing to, to use, actually to use nuclear weapons on Iran.
01:39:52.000Introducing an entire new element into the situation, crossing as this massive threshold of using nuclear weapons.
01:40:08.000And neither you nor I can sit here and say we know for sure that the arrogant guys who are doing this are sure to lose.
01:40:19.000You and I, at least I, Can't say that.
01:40:22.000I hope they're going to lose, and I think they're going to lose, and they're going to create a world of such chaos that in the end, yes, they will lose.
01:40:34.000But the thing is, if they lose only over a long period of time and kill thousands upon thousands of people in the process because they think shock and awe is the way to go, All shock and awe is the U.S.
01:41:35.000So that shows that people at the highest levels are leaking right now and a great danger to themselves with the NSA snooping arms aimed at them.
01:41:46.000I think that is another Achilles heel that there are so many people Unnamed, who aren't going public like yourself, who are in the mechanisms, in the machinery of power that are going to blow the whistle.
01:42:02.000But, you know what the biggest problem we face is?
01:42:06.000It's the, what seems to be, just plain apathy of most of the American people who have to get out there and vote.
01:42:15.000And we have not yet Broken through, and been able to affect this apathy very much.
01:42:26.000And I don't know if you have actually read it yet, but if you haven't, get a hold of it.
01:42:31.000The text of the speech that Bush just gave yesterday, I mean, he is talking about widening this war right in this speech that he gave yesterday.
01:43:03.000In fact, their own strategy papers have leaked out, even from the RNC, who I guess now is planning war.
01:43:08.000They have no expertise, but they're doing it, saying, we need to go ahead and go into Iran, escalate things into national conscription.
01:43:15.000They're spinning it and calling it national service, changing the name, saying it's not a draft.
01:43:20.000I mean, absolutely, they've got their back against the wall again, so in the Ponzi scheme they've got to blow it up even larger.
01:43:27.000They've got their back against the wall and they're already starting to blow it up larger.
01:43:33.000And we ought to, right now, today and every single day, be out there in the streets and just raising, holy hell, about this because, you know, you can say, okay, Hitler actually had to lose once he started the invasion of Soviet Union.
01:44:02.000But the fact is, millions and millions of people died in the process of that.
01:44:07.000And one of the things we ought to be doing is out there trying to stop the same thing from happening.
01:44:13.000We are going to have another world war, very likely, If the United States and or Israel, or the two of them combined, start a bigger war, even if it's not nuclear, it's going to be a bigger war.
01:44:32.000Iran, as I'm sure you know, has a population of 70 million people.
01:44:39.000It's not like Iraq, it's not like Syria.
01:44:43.000And they've been building up their weapons for the last 15, 16 years since the Iran-Iraq war ended.
01:44:50.000They weren't bombed into stone age as Iraq was in 1991.
01:44:55.000I hope people realize we literally stand at the crossroads, at the threshold of history right now, the next two months to the next year, but sooner rather than later, many analysts believe.
01:45:08.000You have a chance to stop World War III.
01:45:11.000That's exactly what we have a chance to do and we better work on it.
01:45:17.000With so many analysts, the majority of analysts, globally, not just in the U.S., and people inside the administration saying, back off, don't do it.
01:45:25.000I mean, even if they just do a conventional bombardment of the 214 sites in Iran, all of the mainstream oil analysts are saying that we're going to see $6 a gallon gas for at least four or five months.
01:45:38.000If that happens, it is the mainstream analysis that we're going to go into a violent recession that could spiral into stagflation and possible depression.
01:45:49.000Yeah, and you know, as well as I do, The oil companies of this country and the world really don't want that.
01:45:57.000That is, all of these people who go around saying, we're doing this for oil, well, in a very indirect sense, we're doing it to get more control of the world's energy supplies.
01:46:21.000have even gone over, and I believe this information has come out and told them, back off, but the neocons aren't.
01:46:28.000I mean, they are, well I've talked to a lot of people who've worked with them, Ray McGovern and many others, I don't know how much you've worked with them, but I mean, these people really are nutcases.
01:46:38.000They're not backing off at all, and we cannot sit here, you and I, and say, we know that They're going to lose this if they do start this war because we don't know what effect a major nuclear attack would have.
01:46:58.000By the way, Israel has ordered the missiles with the bunker-busting tips That are designed to have many nukes put in their warheads.
01:47:39.000Well, look, I'm dead sure that there are people both in our own military-industrial complex and people in the smaller but still very powerful and large Israeli military-industrial complex who work closely together day after day, month after month.
01:47:59.000This, right now, is joint U.S.-Israeli policy.
01:48:18.000If they start World War III, the Allied Defense contractors, hardware manufacturers are going to be able to steer even more of the economy through their coffers and then use the domestic police state in the name of security to then also service all those contracts.
01:48:36.000So they enslave us, they enslave the world, and then they make the profits off of the domestic police state as well.
01:48:43.000And eventually they lose because no empire is going to last long in this day and age in the world today When the world is so much smaller than it used to be in terms of communications, the way you can spend money... Why do you think the government... Well, I agree.
01:49:01.000Why do you think the government is spending more money than all presidents before it combined?
01:49:05.000I mean, it's as if they know the economy's going to implode, the bubble's going to pop, and they're trying to get all they can now.
01:49:13.000As you say, in some ways these guys are crazy.
01:49:17.000And we, I can't say this, and I know I'm repeating myself, And so I can't say it more than that we've got to get out there and somehow turn aside this apathy that most people in this country seem to have on this.
01:49:36.000So we've had it too good, too long, and decadent, fat countries always get taken over by dictators, and people always pay for their apathy.
01:49:47.000We'll come back and take some calls for our guest, an incredible interview.
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01:53:05.000The problem is the analysts are telling the black ops squads that they're not going to get away with this.
01:53:11.000But just like Hitler's generals told him he shouldn't go east, the neocons are in control and they're going forward.
01:53:19.000And we have got to put our full weight against the machine to stop this.
01:53:23.000We're going to keep our esteemed guests for five minutes into the next hour.
01:53:26.000Let's try to get all your calls right now.
01:53:29.000Andrew in Canada, then Rob, Robert, Josh and others.
01:53:32.000You're on the air with Bill Christensen, retired senior CIA analyst.
01:53:37.000Hi, I first want to commend Mr. Christensen for coming out and having the courage to talk about this.
01:53:45.000I would just like to know if he talked about this with others and what were their response to him and also what would he say to the CIA or NSA that are listening right now to this radio show and also if he could talk about what would happen to the CIA that might have been involved and if they talk about classified missions and I'll let you guys answer.
01:54:11.000Yeah, listen, I appreciate your comments.
01:54:15.000And the first thing you've got to understand is I've been retired for a lot of years.
01:54:22.000I've been out of Washington since 1979 and don't really want to go back there either.
01:54:32.000But all I can really say is that there is so much money now sloshing around Throughout not only the CIA, but the intelligence components of the Defense Department, which are actually bigger than the CIA.
01:54:54.000Well, in comparison with the amount of money spent, yes, it is really amazingly small, but the fact is there's so much money around that these guys can do Almost anything they want these days.
01:55:14.000Now, this is, again, I haven't been there for a lot of years.
01:56:10.000Probably the reason I'm willing right now to stick my neck out is one, I've been retired for a long time, I got no more kids to go through college, I got no more big expenses in my life, I have no desire to go any higher in my status in life or be any richer than I am right now.
01:56:34.000It's easy, it's easy for me at my age To stick my neck out?
01:56:39.000I think it's easier, but let's be clear here.
01:56:43.000The path we're going down is certain wreck and ruin if we don't go public.
01:56:48.000And I want people inside government who rationalize, who make excuses for themselves, who have seen things that deep down you know it's an inside job.
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones. - I did not hear or see Bush's speech Alex Jones. - I did not hear or see Bush's speech yesterday, but I've just been given a transcript of
01:58:26.000Saying that terrorists exploit misinformation and conspiracy theorists.
01:59:21.000There's been a bunch of resignations and they're trying to force him out right now.
01:59:25.000But the danger is, you know, what happened in Lebanon, where we and the Israelis really didn't win, that just makes more likely that there'll be a reaction by the neocons, by Bush himself.
01:59:41.000Do you think we're in danger of them staging another terror attack?
01:59:47.000God, I don't even want to think of that.
01:59:49.000Of course, anything you want to think of, there is more danger of as a result of what happened in Lebanon and the failure of that to be a clear-cut victory for the United States and Israel.
02:00:43.000Boy, Alex, I hardly know where to begin.
02:00:46.000First of all, I started this journey when I attended your conference in L.A.
02:00:53.000on the 25th and 26th of June, and I've been intently studying this since then.
02:01:00.000Alex, I wouldn't get your show except for the Internet, and so my first question is, What happens if they do something with the internet?
02:01:09.000Well, they're openly announcing they're going to shut down net neutrality and start blocking access net-wide to not just my site, but sites in period.
02:01:33.000Listen, you're dead right, and you know more about this than I do, but boy, they are going to try to quash us and squelch us as best they can, and they are going to be perfectly willing, I think, to take whatever steps they feel are necessary, including starting a new war against Iran before this upcoming congressional election, in order to
02:02:04.000So Bill, you do see that prime confluence of different things, saying that in the next few months are the key?
02:02:13.000Yes, I don't see how anybody can look at the situation and not come away feeling that the next couple of months are a very dangerous time for all of us.
02:02:24.000Bill Christensen, I want to thank you for spending so much time with us and your courage going public, and I hope to get you back up with us in the near future, my friend.
02:02:33.000God bless you, and after the break I'm going to come back and tell folks about some of the best websites to read your writings, but again, sir, thank you for joining us.
02:02:40.000Let me just talk to you off air for one moment.
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02:06:52.000My producer was talking to you earlier this week, and you were talking about a story that didn't get much attention about RFID chips to be put in all the trash cans, and stories of clearly how Diana was killed, or how Dr. David Kelly was murdered, or the inside job evidence on 9-11.
02:07:07.000There are so many things to discuss, but we were talking during the break And since you brought it up, I'm always happy to talk about it.
02:07:20.000Well, I have to tell you, Alex, there are some very searching questions that I would invite your listeners to get a hold of Terror Storm and have a watch and think, okay, well look, you add this fact, you add that fact.
02:07:31.000Two and two do make four, they don't make five, sadly.
02:07:34.000Over here in the United Kingdom as well as, you know, much of the United States as well, too many people are willing to make two and to add five in order to placate themselves to unpalatable facts.
02:07:48.000And sadly, I'll tell you what, I'm sure you've spoken about this on your show, I was listening in a little bit to Christian in the last hour, and I think that the most shocking thing about Terror Storm, I hope I'm not giving too much away... No, talk about it!
02:08:00.000Yeah, well you have to watch this, I'm telling you.
02:08:02.000There's a woman at Stockwell Tube Station in London, which I'm sure your listeners will know, is the site of the John Charles Domenes' shooting back in July, I believe the 21st of last year.
02:08:14.000And she worked in a fruit stall, didn't she Alex?
02:08:17.000And she was explaining to you that, you know, she thought that shoot to kill, there's no problem with shoot to kill, you know, mistakes happen.
02:08:24.000But specifically, the poignant line, as far as I'm concerned, Now, you've heard this, I'm sure, if you listen to Alex regularly, but I want you to listen up if you haven't.
02:08:32.000I am willing to give up my liberty for freedom.
02:08:39.000Now, you know, I shouted at the television as I was watching your Terror Storm DVD, Alex, and I just shouted at the top of my voice, what, you stupid, and I shan't repeat the word, that's the same thing.
02:08:53.000She didn't seem to get it, but sadly, do you know what I have to say, Alex, and this is hand on heart, I'd like to say she was a bit diffy.
02:09:00.000I'd like to say that that doesn't reflect the average person in the United Kingdom.
02:09:03.000Doesn't reflect a lot of people in the United Kingdom, but sadly it reflects an awful lot of people, I'm afraid.
02:09:11.000Well, last night after I aired my film Terror Storm at the Alamo Draft House, I snuck into Mike Judge's new film.
02:09:37.000Everyone is totally stupid and totally mindless, and I was watching that film, and of course I know Mike Judge is a listener of this show and aware of the New World Order, and I've talked to him, but his film is really good, and the distributors refuse to distribute his film, and it's only opening in Seven Cities.
02:09:57.000But, I mean, words can't describe how when I was watching that film about a retarded future society where, you know, just a low-grade moron from the past is like the king and the genius, you know, once he gets there because the people are so dumbed down.
02:10:35.000My point is, you can't do justice to it unless you see it.
02:10:38.000And I know for a fact that they're spiking his film, even though he's had major hit films in the theaters, they're spiking his film, because in the film, Gatorade buys up the FDA and then replaces the entire water supply with Gatorade.
02:10:53.000What they do with that doesn't surprise me.
02:10:54.000It's why people like another guest to your show, who I know very well, David Shaler, Is also suppressing his points because people point to it and make out it's in some way crazy as opposed to just unpalatable.
02:11:07.000None of us like unpalatable facts do we?
02:11:10.000But the fact of the matter is if we don't face up to them, well we all know what the consequences are and I have to, I have to relay an analogy to you now Alex.
02:11:18.000Something I want to get onto a bit later if you're happy to do so with the chips in the bins.
02:11:21.000I won't say too much more at the moment but essentially the government have admitted espionage against the British people.
02:11:29.000I was speaking to somebody about this on a bus, a London bus, from King's Cross Station, that's the site of one of the 7-7 bombs that was just there outside of King's Cross, and I was going to Blackfriars Bridge, which coincidentally is where Roberto Calvi was hanged in 1982, I'm sure you'll remember.
02:11:43.000I was chatting with her about, you know, the fact that it really is a surveillance government gone absolutely crazy and bonkers, and she was explaining to me that, no, see, they're doing this to protect us.
02:11:58.000So I explored it a bit further and I said, OK, supposing the government said tomorrow, what we're going to do is introduce microphone into 1% of people's homes just randomly.
02:12:10.000She thought for a second, she replied to me, she said, well, I'd want to know why they're doing it.
02:12:15.000And, you know, the obvious question there, I'm sure on top of your mind is, That they would say to protect us against ourselves and to monitor criminal activity, even a single cell amoeba would be able to work that one out.
02:12:26.000And she said, well, yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
02:12:29.000And when I said to her, it's a bit Orwellian, isn't it?
02:12:31.000It's a bit like telescreens in your house.
02:12:33.000You don't really want to be spied on that much.
02:12:35.000And she said, well, I've got nothing tied, but what you have to remember about 1984, and nobody makes this point whenever they talk about the book, The majority of people were happy, it was just the rebels who were unhappy, and I wasn't happy with that!
02:12:47.000So people... See, I swear to you, Alex, this isn't an analogy for the radio.
02:12:51.000This is something I remember because I was going, I do a multitude of jobs within the media, one of which is producing one of the UK's largest radio shows in the UK as well.
02:13:03.000And I was going, it's a morning show, and I said to my colleague and presenter, I said, look, that's it, I'm emigrating.
02:13:18.000That is so important, and I've actually had people say similar things to me.
02:13:23.000Now the public has become so brainwashed, at least a section of them, a large majority of them, that when they read 1984, they think Winston's bad.
02:13:33.000So reading that... They think he's a subvert.
02:13:36.000He's... and again, that is Orwellian Crimestop!
02:13:39.000These aren't even so much stupid people, they read this frightening book, they see it paralleled by the real world, so they Crimestop!
02:13:47.000Instead of facing the fact that they're in a crisis, that we're all under the gun, they accept Big Brother, and become converts to Big Brother, and then see Winston as bad!
02:13:58.000Folks, this is... that is incredible, Sean!
02:14:01.000So let me ask you this, and let me ask the very many People listening to you now.
02:14:06.000If that's the case, and this is a question I'd never have asked this except it occurred to me, and I'll tell you in a second why it occurred to me the other week.
02:14:13.000If we're prepared to stand for that, do we deserve it?
02:14:17.000Well, I'll leave you to ponder on that as I tell you exactly why that crops up.
02:14:21.000On another show on the station there was a fellow called Sean Gabb, who was director of the Libertarian Alliance.
02:14:28.000I've absolutely no link with that whatsoever, he was just a guest.
02:14:31.000You can check his site out at libertarian.co.uk, I believe.
02:14:35.000You know, and he was saying, because, you know, the script for his introduction was along the lines of, you know, Sean Gabb joins me now, tell me, Sean, are we literally sleepwalking into an Orwellian superstate?
02:14:48.000And his response was, no, you see, if we were sleepwalking into an Orwellian superstate, I could potentially, you know, have some hope that I could wake people up to it, but what you're actually getting at the moment is a situation where these people come sheep cross-breed, at least mentally speaking, who he calls sheeple, seem quite openly to know what's going on, but they say, well, if I can't change it, I really don't care.
02:15:19.000I read a story about Hillary Clinton giving a speech and saying 1984 was her favorite book, and then it was pointed out that Hillary likes it because it's a model of control and power.
02:15:29.000Well, if she ever does become the first female president, Alex, and I can't say I wish that on you, I definitely cannot wish that on you, Well, you never know if that's her favourite book and that's exactly why... Actually, sorry, I have to tell myself off here because I'm thinking how much worse could it be?
02:15:46.000In the United States with the Patriots Act, we have something very similar called the Terrorism Act 2005.
02:15:52.000Certainly in the case of the latter there, there are arguably more protections under Adolf Hitler's 1933 Enabling Act.
02:15:59.000That might be a wild claim if you're listening in, but if you go and search for an English translation of that... Yeah, go read it and compare it, I've done that.
02:16:06.000Yeah, now if you do that, you can do that with both... I mean, you guys, I know that it's going very bad there in many ways in the United States, but at least you have a written constitution.
02:16:15.000They might be changing it, but you do have that written constitution.
02:17:17.000And they're getting away with it, because whenever people like myself and my colleagues in the United Kingdom press and colleagues over the seas there in the United States pull them up on it, they just ignore it.
02:17:29.000They just say, well, yeah, but we make mistakes, we learn, we move on.
02:17:33.000And the sheeple in this country and the sheeple in the United States just stand for it.
02:17:38.000Well, the sheeple are going to get sheared right down to their bones, so I hope they enjoy themselves.
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02:22:34.000Sean Dilley, of course, is a national news producer in the UK, and we're honored to have him with us.
02:22:40.000Sean, you mentioned microphones being put in British houses, hypothetically.
02:22:45.000Google has announced they're going to use the microphones on the computers to listen for key words, and then collate that and use that for marketing data.
02:23:06.000And what's more, I tell you, at least somebody has got the guts to come out and say, this is what we're planning to do, probably, as opposed to it already happening without us knowing.
02:23:18.000And you better believe it does happen.
02:23:19.000We all walk around with cell phones, or as we would, in a rather limey way, call them here, mobile telephones.
02:23:25.000And if you don't think that they can be dialed into, Well, I know something you don't.
02:23:32.000People can listen to it, and the fact that, you know, a company like Google are talking about doing this, and they don't think that it's going to affect their business, and let's face it, it probably won't really, will it?
02:23:45.000I'm sure I'll be on the radio in a year from now, when the general public learns of it, and they'll go, what's wrong with them listening off the microphone?
02:23:56.000And, you know, it's one of those things that Right, I'll tell you what, I would like to claim, and I can tell you why I am for this work, this story with the chips in the bins, I wasn't the one who uncovered the fact the government were doing it, the Daily Mail on August the 27th, which is a national publication here in the United Kingdom, they uncovered the story, but their angle on it was that they're considering charging us more for our rubbish collections.
02:24:22.000I'll extremely briefly address that angle to it because there is an angle there, but I think it perishes into being completely unimportant compared to the bigger issues.
02:25:06.000I'm quite sure, you know, you guys pay an awful lot less than that.
02:25:09.000And now they're talking about, and for that, really, that's a bin collection every week.
02:25:12.000It doesn't include water rates or anything like once it would have done.
02:25:17.000It's literally that and, you know, an amount of that money goes to the police, the ambulance, etc.
02:25:22.000But the fact of the matter is now they're on about charging us for the amount of bins we put out, reducing collections twice a week.
02:25:29.000I worked out, Alex, I sat there with a calculator a couple of months ago, and I worked out it would actually be cheaper for me to call a taxicab up and send my rubbish to the dump every other week yes to pay council tax well they do the same thing here they don't let us use our own trash cans now they issue a city trash cans and I saw a report three years ago they're talking about putting a big tracker chip in it that then scans all the RFID chips they want to put in all the products then they can quote
02:25:56.000tell if you're going to be cheating on the new national sales tax they're going to have Well, that's what we've got now, you see.
02:26:43.000Absolutely nobody seems to care about it.
02:26:45.000There are a couple of media outlets who followed our lead and, you know, did the angle that we did, but it doesn't work as a phone-in topic here in the United Kingdom very well because people, sheeple rather, don't seem to appreciate how serious it is.
02:27:00.000From chips in your bin to check for the weight, to check the type of rubbish you're throwing away, to check to count the amount of rubbish you're throwing away and extrapolate the figures over what you actually earn, etc.
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02:27:16.000And maybe, just maybe, these will be on these desired compulsory ID cards that the government hoped to get through, only since the government is absolutely collapsing like a house of cards.
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02:31:49.000Can you give us some of the tidbits that aren't in the news?
02:31:52.000I think I probably can actually, because I've been involved in a number of unofficial conversations with 1, 2, 3, 4 members of the Great British Parliament.
02:32:02.000Two of those are fairly senior actually, the others were backbenchers.
02:32:07.000And there's all sorts of speculation going on at the second as to how long Tony Blair will last.
02:32:12.000He made the mistake following his staggering election victory last time around.
02:32:19.000I say staggering not because it was a good victory, but because I was staggered thinking he actually won.
02:32:26.000Another election, but I'll come back to that in a second.
02:32:28.000But he made the mistake of saying he was not going to serve a full term in office, and the difference between the terms in office of our Prime Minister, who, let's face it, is like a President now, the Queen doesn't exactly head up the state, and the United States system is, there's no fixed term.
02:32:45.000I mean, there's an absolute maximum of five years between general elections, but, you know, it could be, it could be 30 days in theory after the last general election, or it could be five years.
02:32:55.000But he made the mistake of saying, OK, I'm not going to serve this full term.
02:32:58.000I'm going to hand over the reins to someone else after that, who's widely been expected to be a fellow called Gordon Brown, who's the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
02:33:08.000And I'm sure you'll know there's an alleged deal the two men came to with the formation of New Labour that Tony Blair would hand over power to him.
02:33:18.000But absolute power corrupts absolutely and he's clinging on like a man possessed to power.
02:33:25.000He probably lost any popularity as I'm told some people saw in him about sort of five years ago really.
02:33:33.000But it quite literally is collapsing because he gave an interview to the Times of London a few days ago now in which he asked people to stop obsessing about his departure date.
02:33:45.000Well, you know, you can't help but obsess about it when he's the one that kicked it off in the first place.
02:33:51.000So we've got a situation where the Prime Minister of Great Britain has said, well, yeah, OK, I'm not going to bother staying till the next election.
02:33:59.000I'll leave at some point, but I'm not going to tell you when.
02:34:02.000Now, a few months ago, Quite a few Labour members of Parliament and Labour obviously in power here in the United Kingdom said, look, you have got to tell us when you are going to leave at the conference this year, which is in October and it's up in Manchester.
02:34:18.000Now he, in this interview in the Times, said that he wasn't going to set out a schedule for his departure, which unbelievably would have been a year or so.
02:34:28.000People would have been quite content with him leaving in a year had he announced it later on.
02:34:33.000But he's got greedy, like many of them often do.
02:34:35.000Of course, we don't have the 22nd Amendment here in the UK.
02:34:38.000I don't know whether that's a good thing or not.
02:34:42.000So obviously at the second the country's in disarray, the party's in, and I'm going to use a word that all these members of parliament I spoke with earlier today used, and it would be my assessment as well, the Labour Party, or the inner party let's say, they are in meltdown at the second.
02:34:57.000There are all sorts of rumours as to how long Tony Blair can last.
02:35:00.000The Sun newspaper today claimed that it was going to be till May the 31st I heard some fairly solid information about six months ago from some contacts in the palaces of Westminster that he was going to resign in May and Gordon Brown was going to hold a snap general election to try and win another mandate for up to five years.
02:35:22.000So that was in keeping with what I'd heard but now at this stage Tony Blair in my view He'll be doing quite well if he's still there by the time of the conference, I think it's September the 23rd actually.
02:35:36.000So at the moment we've got one minister in the government, albeit a junior minister, and six ministerial aides.
02:35:42.000And they're quite senior, they work very closely in various departments.
02:35:46.000They've resigned today following sending what's been referred to as a round robin letter to the Prime Minister saying that we'd like to thank you for what you've done, because of course they're all in on that little game I suppose, and the country they said owes you an incalculable debt.
02:36:03.000Well that wouldn't be how I'd put it, but that's their terminology.
02:36:07.000But we think it's time for you to step down.
02:36:09.000Now he'd, the Prime Minister, he'd asked for Tom Watson, who was the actual Minister in the Department of Defence, to come and see him, and apparently he was going to sack him.
02:36:18.000That's what they said afterwards anyway.
02:37:04.000And it means absolutely nothing here in the United Kingdom.
02:37:07.000Do you know, I have spent many hours trawling over David Cameron's policies and I can't actually tell you what they are because he doesn't have any.
02:37:16.000He's a Tony Blair clone and it seems that both the parties, let's face it, it is a two-party system, represent exactly the same point of view and a representative democracy only works, surely, when the various parties I have different opinions on things.
02:37:32.000They both... Well, the reason this Blair thing is important is that his forced departure will be a serious blow to the overall neocon agenda.
02:37:41.000It will be a roundly public discrediting of the things he's done.
02:37:47.000It shows the people in Parliament aren't buying it.
02:37:50.000But then it doesn't matter because it's like shark teeth.
02:37:52.000He leaves and a whole other set of criminals roll forward into place.
02:37:58.000Well I think it was Michael Dobbs and again he was a Member of Parliament and wrote a series of books and I recommend it to everyone called House of Cards and to play the King and the comment there Alex I would say is you might think that you might very well think that of course I couldn't possibly comment you know very much to say that backing your point up that
02:38:18.000You know, I think whether Blair stays or does not stay, if anything, I think what's happened is he has outstayed his welcome in terms of the organisers of his party, of the government, so on and so forth.
02:38:29.000And because he's done that, he's actually going to get forced out.
02:38:33.000He did a tremendous thing for the Labour Party, who stopped being Labour when he came to power in 1994 after the sad death of Previously there was a fellow called John Smith and he actually managed to win the election because during the 70s here in the United Kingdom we had the winter of discontent where nobody could get anything done because everybody was on strike absolutely all the time.
02:38:59.000But the fact of the matter is, because they brought the country to the knees, and then the Tories came along, and it could be fairly argued in my view that they did bring some financial stability, although towards the end... Sure, sure.
02:39:11.000I mean, I know that's wildly unpopular in England just because it is here, but at the same time, Blair keeps beating the war drum right along with the US and Israel.
02:39:20.000It's quite clear they want war with Iran, but I think they're going to get more than they bargained for, because it was quite clear with Iraq that they didn't have any WMDs, I don't know, I'm not quite so sure.
02:39:30.000I know one thing, that if they intended any bad, they would have done whatever by now.
02:39:35.000The fact of the matter is, they're wanting to flex their international muscles.
02:39:39.000We have, you might remember actually, because it was a big story there in the United States, Colonel Tim Collins, who's now retired, gave a great Shakespearean speech to the troops in Iraq, American troops, British troops.
02:39:51.000Now he's come out, and obviously he's retired, he said at the moment, particularly British troops, because I think we only have about 100,000 of them, which is pathetic, he's said that we are completely stretched to breaking point.
02:40:03.000We absolutely cannot deploy any more people than we already deployed.
02:40:06.000We already have what you guys call reservists, and effectively it's territorial army volunteer reserve here, sent out, deployed with minimal army training, and don't get me wrong... Sure, you're talking about National Guard, Well effectively, it's a similar system.
02:40:20.000Again, they're very, very, very properly trained.
02:40:37.000Well, you know, that's a very, very, very good question, Alex.
02:40:41.000And I'll tell you what, it's a difficult one to answer.
02:40:43.000I dislike Tony Blair and I've never trusted him from the beginning, but the fact of the matter is the two alternatives we have are this Gordon Brown fella and David Cameron.
02:40:51.000And to quote, I'll tell you what, the only person with a radio show in the United Kingdom like you is a fella called George Galloway.
02:40:59.000You'll be very familiar with every Saturday and Sunday night he does that on TalkSport.net.
02:41:07.000Well, he's a good guy and I'll tell you what, again, I wish I could say that he's representative Very many UK members of Parliament, but he's not, he's in an upper league.
02:41:16.000He could teach any of them a lesson, absolutely anything.
02:41:18.000Unfortunately, he is one of the few literate members of Parliament.
02:41:25.000Robert in California, thanks for holding her on the air.
02:41:28.000Yeah, Alex, your guest, Bill, was awesome.
02:41:31.000And I really wanted to ask this question too.
02:41:33.000I don't see how this administration can afford to let the reins of power go to anybody else.
02:41:39.000You know, and the old days... That's the thing, Bush needs to escalate us into World War III and dictatorship because their crimes are so huge, there's no way they'll ever get away with it unless they do.
02:41:48.000Right, and the old times, the elite would play their part on the stage and then step down and let the next guy take over.
02:41:54.000But these guys, they're hubris, their arrogance is so over the top, they want all the power right now, right this second, they don't want to step down off the stage.
02:42:03.000And like you just said, their crimes are so huge, how could they possibly let You know, the power go into somebody else's hands who could impeach them, investigate them.
02:42:18.000I would say to you on this one, yes, you are completely right.
02:42:22.000And that's more of a problem for us here, because again, I refer once again to the 22nd Amendment, and I think it was FDR Roosevelt who outstayed his welcome.
02:42:29.000Unfortunately, you guys have, albeit the minimal protection, but you nevertheless have protection of the Constitution.
02:42:34.000By the way, Bush has reintroduced legislation to have the 22nd Amendment abolished.
02:42:39.000Well, that doesn't surprise me, actually.
02:42:41.000I wasn't aware of that, and I'll tell you what, later on this evening, I intend to look into that, because that fascinates me completely.
02:42:47.000But, you know, regardless of whether he has, God forbid, unless they actually do declare World War III, which I wouldn't put past them at the moment, Wittingly or unwittingly, I don't think there's any chance he's going to return as President.
02:43:00.000It's something that many Presidents, including Bill Clinton, have kind of toiled with but never have gone through with.
02:43:06.000Sadly, however, we're not talking about individuals here.
02:43:08.000We're talking about regimes, aren't we?
02:43:10.000We're talking about... I mean, look, how likely is it that the son, and you'll forgive the dog there in the background barking, how likely is it that the son of a President is also going to be the best man to be a President term after that?
02:43:25.000Yeah, the President was just on, making another speech for about 40 minutes, describing exactly why we need secret police, secret rendition bases in foreign countries, why we must torture, and why we must kill all the Islamo-fascists first before they kill us all.
02:43:49.000I tell you what, particularly given the group of Muslims, and don't get me wrong because I'm no spokesman for any group whatsoever, however, you're seeing a situation now where Muslims by the UK and US governments alike are being vilified, they're being dehumanized, I'm not Jewish myself, but very much in the same way as Adolf Hitler was dehumanizing the Jews post-Treaty of Versailles.
02:44:12.000And Hitler didn't just persecute Jews, by the way.
02:44:17.000Actually, I have to say that it's only years after that people have really focused on the fact that they were persecuting Jews.
02:44:25.000That's one of the things that... Don't get me wrong, because I'll tell you what, I'm very pleased that that was uncovered, but at the time we didn't know the scale of any of that.
02:44:33.000But, you know, obviously Jews were one of the groups he was persecuting and dehumanizing, and he was blaming for all sorts of reparations, so on and so forth, and effectively we've got that now with British government have recently said that the Muslim community are not doing enough to condemn the 7-7 bombers, and I appreciate you might want to come back to that in a second, but what more do you want Muslims to do in this country?
02:44:56.000Also, notice both our governments bring in record levels of Arabs and Muslims and Middle Easterners, but then at the very same time talk about how they're under every table about to chew our feet off.
02:45:20.000You have a great guest on, and the question I want to ask is What is the state of privacy in the United Kingdom, including the privacy of the mail?
02:45:35.000Don't disappear like the previous call, because, Fred, when you say privacy, obviously, as pointed out in Terror Storm, Alex, this wonderful DVD, which I can't recommend enough, there are very, very many CCTV cameras, surveillance cameras, in the United Kingdom.
02:45:54.000Most police cars now, if not all of them, it certainly will be all of them very soon, have a thing called automatic number plate recognition.
02:46:08.000Yet, we don't have probable cause here.
02:46:11.000There is, in theory, supposed to be justification.
02:46:13.000So, no, there is a serious problem with privacy generally.
02:46:17.000Let me bring up another issue here that dovetails with that.
02:46:21.000Not just when I was bullhorning, but when I was at major tube stations outside, out on the street, the police would walk over and ask why I was filming and ask for my ID and tell me I really needed permission.
02:47:00.000We've got two issues at the second, one of which is where the government say they want to introduce, by 2008, a national database, a register of every child in the UK except the children of celebrities.
02:47:11.000Of course, you get into the definition of what a celebrity is now with the world of reality TV.
02:47:16.000Yep, they do want all the DNA, they want absolutely everything, which links into what you'd know who I meant if I said Tony Benn, Alex, yeah?
02:47:24.000Anti-war campaigner, former British MP.
02:47:28.000Now, he's described this as eugenics, or genetic engineering that will potentially lead on to eugenics, because effectively Tony Blair is suggesting that the government intervene before children are born to identify problem families And to intervene before they're born and have a chance to step off the rails.
02:47:50.000I mean, are we talking about breeding licenses here, Mr. Blair?
02:47:54.000In fact, the governor of Oregon six years ago came out, he's a psychiatrist, and said they want to screen families and start drug, I'm not kidding, this is not a joke, start drug treatments in utero of the fetuses.
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02:53:05.000Well, I wanted to make a comment, actually, somewhat regarding the microphones within the computer components.
02:53:11.000Yes, Google's saying they're going to use those to listen to you.
02:53:14.000Yeah, well, there's actually another issue that I wanted to bring up and I didn't know if you'd heard anything about anything like this or not.
02:53:22.000I know someone who bought a laptop that was brand name.
02:53:26.000And he wanted to upgrade some of the things on the motherboard.
02:53:29.000So we popped it open, took a look inside.
02:54:30.000Um, really quickly, I wanted to dive a little bit deep into, um, Some of the historical references about empire and its references specifically in the Bible in Daniel 11 36.
02:54:40.000This was something that they were going through in their time.
02:54:46.000A fear of an Antichrist and an overlord style empire.
02:54:50.000It starts out, the king will do as he pleases.
02:54:51.000He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard of things against the gods.
02:54:56.000He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed.
02:54:59.000For what has been determined must take place.
02:55:02.000He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers, or for the ones desired by women.
02:55:06.000Nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.
02:55:10.000Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortress.
02:55:59.000There goes Sean Dilley, a big news producer for several national shows in the UK on the radio, and we're always honored to have him on with us.