Alex Jones has a massive broadcast lined up for you today covering 9/11 being an inside job, a new report from the CIA, a radio interview with Chris Duhl, and much, much more! Stay tuned for all the details!
00:00:48.000It is September 7th, 2006, ladies and gentlemen, and a very important broadcast lined up for you today.
00:00:55.000We have an Austin pastor who's gone public in the last year on 9-11 being an inside job.
00:01:01.000He's also written a book on the subject of the police state and the New World Order, America, Fascism, and God, sermons from a heretical preacher.
00:01:11.000And so he is coming up later in the next hour.
00:01:14.000We also have one of our fine affiliate owners coming on who is doing a screening of Terror Storm.
00:01:24.000And so we'll have that guest on coming up in about 30 minutes and we'll give you more details on both those guests after this first break.
00:01:33.000In the meantime, here's the type of news I have in front of me.
00:01:52.000President Bush, of course, yesterday, and we've got a clip of this we're going to play later, has come out and defended the secret CIA torture centers, but he says it isn't torture, we're just quote, getting rough on them.
00:02:05.000And he's also saying that conspiracy theorists are aiding the terrorists, and that the terrorists are using conspiracy theories considering and concerning what really happened on 9-11.
00:02:15.000So we'll go through those reports as well.
00:02:24.000Israel ordered September 11th attacks.
00:02:26.000The Supreme Commander of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard accused the Bush Administration and Israel Security Services of ordering the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and D.C.
00:02:40.000Of course, you know the news that Ahmadinejad has challenged Bush to a debate in the General Assembly.
00:02:49.000Yesterday we really had a bombshell report here.
00:02:53.00028-year career CIA official says that 9-11 clearly an inside job.
00:02:59.000Highlights missing Pentagon trillions as potential motive.
00:03:02.000We'll be getting into that report for you after the break and a lot more.
00:03:07.000I also want to talk about a radio interview I did yesterday on KTSA 550.
00:03:15.000And the host, I guess Chris Duhl, was friendly when I was on the phone with him, but then I had a chance to listen after I was off air as I drove in my car to the Alamo Draft House on South Lamar Movie Theater to give a speech and show my new film.
00:03:31.000And so I sat there in the parking lot and listened to 15 minutes of it, and Mr. Duhl and another host from the station
00:03:39.000I had an interesting way of going after me and I want to comment on the psychology that was manifest and you know really how individuals like Mr. Doole and Mr. Ware who were on the show just don't have all the pieces of the puzzle and I think they're genuinely starting to take serious what I have to say and that's happening with more and more big mainstream radio hosts but they still just can't come to grips with it so I wanted to briefly
00:04:09.000Talk about that little interview I did yesterday because it's an illustration of how people in the establishment out there who mean well just don't have their paradigm tuned into reality.
00:04:21.000So perhaps we can try to shift that for them.
00:04:24.000So I wanted to go through some of the misconceptions of people out there who are still in semi-denial.
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00:07:09.000Shocking declassified government documents prove that western governments are orchestrating terror attacks against their own populations as a pretext to enslave them.
00:07:17.000Terror Storm proves that not only was 9-11 an inside job, but the attacks of 7-7 in London were carried out by British intelligence.
00:07:25.000Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, the White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, secret police torture, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.
00:07:37.000Terror Storm is the definitive guide to the history of government-sponsored terrorism.
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00:09:37.000Okay, we've got Bush saying, we get rough with people and we pressure them, but it's not torture, and you better be glad we're doing this or the terrorists would have basically, you know, cut your head off and sucked all your blood.
00:09:50.000Just more propaganda, and they claim they foiled all these terror attacks, which is chilling!
00:09:55.000You remember back on the 10th of last month, or was it the 12th of last month, when I launched Operation Expose the Government Terrorist Part 2, the first time I launched that operation was two months before 9-11, and I said there was a lot of information, the first time I launched that operation was two months before 9-11, and I said there was a lot of information, a lot of different indicators coming together showing us a prime window of terror attacks orchestrated by the military-industrial
00:10:29.000That is from early last month until the end of October coming up next month.
00:10:34.000And we had a former top CIA analyst who ran an entire department of the CIA on yesterday, Bill Christensen.
00:10:42.000And he, of course, I talked to him during a break and hadn't even read my analysis on that subject.
00:10:48.000And I said, when do you see a prime window for attacks?
00:10:53.000And the other experts I've talked to, people who are currently in government, by the way, that I've talked to off the record, see the same window.
00:11:00.000I mean, when you've been studying this for a long time, it's not really that hard to do.
00:11:08.000Their program to start World War III is stalling.
00:11:13.000There are a bunch of scandals threatening to bring down the current crime syndicate that's in control in Washington.
00:11:21.000They have midterm elections coming up and are in danger of having a lot of incumbents, both Democrat and Republican, being swept out.
00:11:27.000The establishment wouldn't care if it was just a Republican defeat, and they kept their establishment Democrats in.
00:11:56.000They like to, oh, this will probably get hit.
00:11:58.000And when it does, they go, see how smart we were.
00:12:00.000That's what these criminals are doing.
00:12:02.000So we can also, that's one of the other big indices, indicator areas that we look at.
00:12:08.000So it is, I predicted that you would hear them right before the major attack, if they were going to go with a major attack.
00:12:15.000Telling you about how they foiled a bunch of other terror attacks.
00:12:18.000You see a whole raft of terror attacks they claim that they have foiled in the past and then if there's a conjunction with current bust which we've seen in England and now if we see a few more of these that is definitely the balloon going up and we go from 95 percent chance they're going to stage a terror attack to 99 percent.
00:12:39.000Okay, so we're seeing the key indicators now being laid out And we're seeing the same preparatory phase in the media, hyping, we're going to get hit, give up all your rights, martial law is good, anybody that criticizes the government is a terrorist, people that say 9-11 is an inside job are terrorists.
00:12:56.000We're seeing all of those key statements, key propaganda, preparatory actions being made.
00:13:06.000But at the same time, my prediction of government-sponsored terror, unless we get involved, that's the key addendum or caveat, Has been put out there.
00:13:15.000It's even been picked up by national television.
00:13:17.000It's been picked up by national newsprint.
00:13:20.000It has, thanks to you out there, really had a big effect.
00:13:23.000And so we may be able to stop them from nuking a city.
00:13:28.000That's their favorite, or releasing a bioweapon, which is in their own Pentagon documents, if they want to do that, to bring in martial law and capture us as an engine of global domination and hegemon.
00:13:40.000Now, If we're able to expose the government-sponsored terror attack paradigm in the West, which we have a chance of doing right now, though it doesn't look good.
00:13:51.000It looks like they're just going ahead with it.
00:13:53.000We may be able to back them off, though.
00:14:03.000Because if we yell loud enough at them, it may scare them off.
00:14:05.000They may scurry off to another target, and that will be a massive terror attack in Israel, That will be a massive terror attack on a ship, or a group of ships, or an attack in even some place like Central Europe, Eastern Europe, or Western Europe, and it may be a low-intensity attack, a blowing up of a bus, or something along those lines, and then a connection to Iran, though that may not be a big enough provocation to kick off World War III.
00:14:32.000Also, Israel's building up for a massive military offensive and announcing they may go into Lebanon and take over the entire country.
00:14:40.000Israel, of course, the last two weeks has announced they're getting ready to strike Iran.
00:16:50.000And for some reason this has come back into the press.
00:16:54.000And the reason these type of stories are important is it shows the ruthlessness of the government and how these sterilizations were kept secret for 60 years.
00:17:02.000Now let's be clear, this was going on until the mid-1980s, but it went back into the 20s.
00:17:07.000And they kept it secret for 60 years, from the 20s until the 80s.
00:17:14.00060 plus years and so I don't want to hear that you can't keep 9-11 secret.
00:17:17.000They kept the Manhattan Project secret.
00:17:19.000They kept black men even being given syphilis and allowed to spread it.
00:17:40.000And when you start figuring out that the elite see us as absolute cattle and stop being naive, we can set about saving this country.
00:17:49.000Let me just briefly tell you about what happened on the radio yesterday.
00:17:54.000You know, I do interviews almost every day, some days multiple times, and I got a call, they wanted me on KTSA 550, and back when I was anti-Bill Clinton, exposing Oklahoma City as an inside job, and back when I was exposing Waco as an inside job, and back when I was doing all that, they'd have me on their shows on KTSA, which is the biggest, if not the second largest, WAI and KTSA together are about the same size in the ratings.
00:18:19.000Point is, millions of people listen to it.
00:18:22.000And over the years, I was their darling.
00:18:24.000Now, they don't know what to do because I'm exposing 9-11 as an inside job, but Chris Duhl, one of their talk show hosts, looked into my claims.
00:18:36.000Off air, they tell me, oh yeah, we're big fans like what you're doing, but obviously on air, they have to, quote, be neutral.
00:18:43.000And so they've got me on there, and here comes one of the were-pairs.
00:18:45.000It's a dad and son who do a show on there, but the son comes on, been on for like 30 years.
00:18:53.000After I went off, he came on and he said, well, you know, we know Alex has done some good work in the past, but I just can't believe this is true.
00:19:01.000You know, his soul for eternity is in a lot of trouble that he's made these accusations and it isn't true.
00:19:06.000It's quite an accusation to make that our government would do this.
00:19:09.000And besides, these same people say Rumsfeld's inept and Bush is inept and they've done a bad job in Iraq, well then how could they carry out an attack on 9-11 and do it with such precision?
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00:24:15.000Davidson Lohr will be joining us in the next hour in studio.
00:24:20.000He's a Vietnam veteran, pastor, and he's exposing 9-11 as an inside job and got attacked big time in a local paper and even nationally as well.
00:24:30.000He'll be joining us coming up in the next hour.
00:24:34.000We have another great guest that we'll introduce for you in the next segment.
00:24:37.000So, I'm on this radio show and then after I go off, they then spend the next 30 minutes hoping and praying on air, but they were being serious that I was wrong.
00:24:49.000But then admitting that I've been right in the past.
00:24:52.000See, that's why so many serious people have to take us seriously, because we're not playing games, this isn't a joke, this isn't a drill.
00:24:59.000We're on a mission to defend this country and the planet from the criminal New World Order.
00:25:04.000But they said, you know, if Bush and them can't control Iraq and can't do a good job over there, how could they carry out 9/11?
00:25:11.000Well, how can 19 hijackers carry it out controlled from McKay?
00:25:14.000I mean, that's a stupid thing to say, but that's one of the most popular things they say.
00:25:18.000And to break this down, last night I gave a speech right after I'd done the interview at the Elmwood Draft House, and I talked about a historical phenomenon that goes back thousands of years in Asia, on the coastlines of China,
00:25:35.000and even Japan and of course in the Red Sea and in the Persian Gulf and really the folks that perfected it were the British and they were even licensed to do it in my off time which is rare.
00:25:49.000I like to read history books and I really like naval History.
00:25:54.000And I'm reading and finishing an excellent book titled The Pirate Hunters about Captain William Kidd, who was not really a pirate.
00:26:20.000Point is, it's a good book, y'all, read it.
00:26:21.000And in there, they talk about a phenomenon that I'd read about before, so I went and did some research online about it, and that's wreckers.
00:26:28.000And when you understand that the New World Order even admits that a lot of their policies and ideas are based in privateering and pirating, and what these towns would do in England was they would build fake lighthouses, lighthouses that they would only turn on during fog or storms, off the English Channel.
00:26:48.000There on the east side of England, the southeasterly area, there were a bunch of towns that did this, and they had governmental wink-wink authorization to do it, and they were called wreckers.
00:26:58.000You say, what does this have to do with 9-11?
00:27:00.000Well, they would build these fake lighthouses, and they would guide ships in to the reefs and to the rocks, right off the coast, just a few hundred yards, and then they would wreck them, and then they would go out, because most people couldn't swim back then, so most of them would drown.
00:27:16.000And then the townspeople, the men, the children, they would row out or sail out and steal the cargoes off of the semi-submerged ships.
00:27:45.000And I've been saying this since before we invented IRAC, that that was the plan.
00:27:48.000And now even mainstream magazines and newspapers and analysts are saying, hey, did you know they planned to do this?
00:27:56.000So when people say, well, they can't do a good job in IRAC, that they screwed up there, that they're too inept to carry out 9-11, no, no, no, no, no.
00:28:03.000We could have won the Vietnam War in six weeks with a full military bombardment and landing in the North.
00:28:12.000It was a 15-year war from 1960 declared in 1964.
00:28:15.000It was never an officially declared war, but they announced it was full-scale in 1964 with the staged Gulf of Tonkin incident, as you know.
00:28:25.000And so, they then kept the war going for 15 years at over $100 billion a year on average.
00:28:34.000Some years were $180 billion, but the average was about $105 billion a year.
00:28:41.000Again, do defense contractors make more money if they're in Iraq a year, or if they're there 10 years, 20 years, 30 years?
00:28:48.000This is what order out of chaos is all about.
00:28:52.000Create a crisis, create this vortex of destruction, and then the globalists manage it and get total power and control out of it.
00:28:59.000It's the same thing with the drug war.
00:29:02.000We've got more drugs than we've ever had on our streets.
00:29:06.000Again, triple the heroin, double the cocaine that we had 12 years ago.
00:29:09.000We have a quadrupling of the prison population that we had just 10 years ago.
00:29:15.000And we've tracked back the big money laundering banks that then own the majority of the shares of the private shares in the big five prison industries.
00:29:23.000And your children or young people use it.
00:29:25.000And they put you in prisons where you work for 20 cents an hour working for the drug cartels.
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00:34:48.000Well, the difference between WCER and other religious radio stations is a balanced program and diversity.
00:34:57.000No matter what your religious background, you'll find that programs such as we carry four NFL football games, for example.
00:35:06.000We also have the American League and National League baseball games going to the World Series.
00:35:10.000We have Dave Ramsey's show, which is totally money makeover, and Dr. Lars Schlesinger.
00:35:15.000Dobson's on with Focus and the Family.
00:35:18.000And our mission statement declares that today people are more uptight and full of anxiety about what is going to happen than at any other point in our lifetime.
00:35:29.000And it's our commission by God to warn its listeners about the ongoing threat and Threats to our faith, our families, and our freedoms.
00:35:40.000I think that God has risen people such as yourself and myself at these times to defend what we know to be the freedoms, the liberties that are now trying to be taken away from us.
00:35:55.000And He can count on us because we're going to stay in a gap no matter what it cost us in our personal lives, our careers, That we're going to be there until the bitter end, no matter what it means to us individually.
00:36:10.000Well, Mr. Ambrosek, I really appreciate you picking up the show, and I know that you've gotten a lot of support.
00:36:16.000You've also, of course, had people criticize it, and even sent in a few letters to the editor.
00:36:21.000What made you decide to pick up the broadcast?
00:36:24.000Well, it was almost like hand-in-glove situation, Alex.
00:36:28.000We heard your show on the way down to Columbus, Ohio, one time.
00:36:33.000And people were calling saying, you know, everything that you're doing on the air, you should have Alex Jones.
00:36:39.000And when we started to air your show, we said, this is too good to bury somewhere.
00:36:47.000We want to put you early in the morning.
00:36:58.000And yes, we do play you at other times during the week and on the weekends.
00:37:03.000But the people now have learned to wake up to you and to wake up to the situations that are going on.
00:37:11.000So you're really the base that we're operating from.
00:37:16.000And then of course we have other people like Derry Brownfield, which I know you've had on your show.
00:37:21.000Derry's doing a great job with bringing the attention to the farmers and the cattlemen and things like that of what's going on.
00:37:29.000And we have a Patriot Act group that comes on, or funny as heck, out of Arizona, and they're out to sell some gold and silver, but they're also talking about their backyard and what's happening with the Mexicans and how it's affecting their life in Arizona.
00:37:46.000Well, Jack, I mean, even Lou Dobbs has said it.
00:38:05.000We have more and more prominent people going public on 9-11.
00:38:09.000And it's going to be people like you, Jack, who are going to save this country.
00:38:12.000It's people like you that have the bold courage to put my broadcast on.
00:38:15.000We're getting a lot of new affiliates, and we're really excited about your station that's been carrying us for a while and now expanding the broadcast.
00:38:22.000Tell people about the listening area, the different cities and towns where they can tune in to hear the show.
00:38:27.000Give us the frequency and all the info.
00:38:29.000Well, we're a Clear Channel radio station, not the company Clear Channel, but we get out about 70-75 miles in radius.
00:38:38.000You can pick us up in Cleveland, in Youngstown, Warren, Ohio.
00:38:48.000In fact, sometimes I ride the turnpike all the way down into Pittsburgh, and you can hear us.
00:38:53.000We get down to about 20 miles north of Columbus, into Mansfield, and then up towards Sandusky, and of course Akron and Canton.
00:39:03.000So, we have approximately 2,800,000 people in our listening audience that we can be reaching with your show.
00:39:12.000Now, if everybody, of course, would have to be listening to 900 AM, but that's the influence that we have, and that we're, as you're saying, trying to be a light in the darkness, and hopefully this light's going to shine through.
00:39:27.000And hopefully people that are listening to this program right now will inspire more radio stations to pick up the gauntlet and to carry this banner of liberty that we are trying to do ourselves, you and I and Darian and some of the other people across the country.
00:39:48.000Well, Jack, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, and I want to take this time out to thank all of our affiliates from Southern California to Kansas City to upstate New York to Florida to right here in Austin, Texas.
00:39:59.000I want to thank all of the stations that pick up this broadcast.
00:40:02.000And if you're listening on an AM or FM station, that is so important that you tell everyone.
00:40:07.000And I routinely here in Austin, when my program is rebroadcasting or when other good shows are on, I will pull up at red lights and I'll roll down my window And I'll tell them, tune in to KLBJ 590, tune in to 100.1 FM, tune in to these frequencies here locally.
00:40:25.000All the time, fans of the broadcast who are listening off other radio stations or the internet or watching the TV show walk up to me at the mall or at a movie theater or at the grocery store And they're not even aware, after all these years, the stations I'm on, Monday through Friday, here in Austin.
00:40:41.000So folks, don't hide your light under the bushel.
00:40:44.000Tell everybody about News Talk WCER 900 and all the towns and cities that are able to pick it up.
00:40:53.000And it's the same for every other affiliate we've got.
00:41:14.000Yes, and the response so far, I think we're going to have a sellout crowd so that if you're going to be there, be there at 6 o'clock so that we can accommodate as many people as possible.
00:41:26.000That's why we're having it two times, both a 12th and a 19th at 7 p.m.
00:41:31.000We're looking at between 500 and 650 people.
00:41:41.000We can sell out as many as 9 showings in a row here in Austin.
00:41:46.000I think you are going to have an overflow crowd, especially because It is free.
00:41:51.000I want to tell everybody, get out there to this event and we just shipped out a bunch of Terror Storm to the event.
00:41:57.000In fact, now that you tell me the crowds are going to be that big, I think we're going to ship out some more to you today, sir, so you have enough to get it out to all the people that want to get it when they're there.
00:42:06.000Well, Alex, I really appreciate your help on this matter, but keep up the good work because your Terror Storm, I've reviewed the The screening myself, and it is an excellent, excellent documentary.
00:42:21.000I mean, it's quality through and through.
00:42:23.000It's just like a production right out of the Hollywood.
00:42:26.000Jack, I'm curious about your mindset, your psychology, your journey.
00:42:30.000Obviously, you're a Christian, Christian broadcaster, a popular radio station that you've owned for many years.
00:42:37.000I mean, were you aware of the New World Order five years ago, ten years ago, or when did you...?
00:42:41.000Actually, I did some financial transactions in Europe, and I was involved with the Arabs as well as doing transactions with Switzerland and some of the banks there.
00:42:56.000And that's when I found out about the Illuminati and all the other things that were going on because they were watching what we were doing with the Arab money.
00:43:05.000And that's when I first became interested in we don't control our destiny anymore, that this whole thing has been set up from way back, from the Rothschilds.
00:43:31.000But I was never able to be in the service.
00:43:36.000I would have enjoyed serving my country.
00:43:39.000But being born in 1935, I skipped all that kind of stuff because of children, etc, etc.
00:43:48.000But now I have an opportunity of being a patriot and doing something.
00:43:52.000And I said to God and to my country that as far as I'm concerned, the rest of my life is going to be dedicated to exposing, or I should say unmasking, All these things that are going on.
00:44:24.000And we have commandeered it for two showings.
00:44:28.000At the time, it's all we could afford because, not on that, but insurance.
00:44:34.000So we took on the two nights, hoping that if this is successful, we'll do it more times.
00:44:41.000It has to be, of course, needed and wanted.
00:44:43.000I think once the people see what you have, your movies all about, they'll request having it more.
00:44:51.000But the nice thing with what you're doing, Alex, yes, we are bringing in some of these books and we're going to be selling them there for you.
00:44:58.000But you have given them the authorization to make copies of it and to spread it to different functions, different churches, to different Places of opportunity that would want to see this, the history of the government-sponsored terrorism.
00:45:15.000So that, I believe, is where we're all collectively getting together.
00:45:20.000We're doing right now, Alex, I don't know whether you are understanding this or not, but we're doing a whole seminar over the air on the Constitution.
00:45:31.000We're taking it back to going back to high school where they should have been teaching all about the Bill of Rights and the on a ground level, if you will, and a constitution.
00:45:43.000And I have Dr. Jackson, David Jackson, who is co-working with me on this.
00:45:51.000He's a very interesting man, as much as that he has most of the experience by taking on the Justice Department and the IRS and the Social Security.
00:46:00.000And he's won 85% of the cases that he has sued the government.
00:46:07.000Yes, and he is cooperating with me and putting this together.
00:46:12.000We're then going to take on the Federal Reserve and expose all that nonsense.
00:46:18.000And after that, of all things, we're going to take on Christianity and unmask what's going on in Christianity, especially I think you are aware that on May 2nd, I believe it was, George Bush signed a document saying that all the 50C3 entities now have to report To the Homeland Act people.
00:47:27.000We had just a case here recently One of our own employees had his daughter taken away while she was at her violin lessons because he had custody of her and without being served papers, two policemen came and abducted her.
00:47:46.000Took her away from him and said that you are not allowed to see her for a week or two.
00:47:53.000In fact, we're going to court right this afternoon to see what this is all about.
00:47:58.000But, uh, he wasn't even served due process of the law.
00:48:02.000I have been at the hospital fighting for young families where they admit they've done nothing, they're poor, and I have seen police actually grab a woman by the neck and say, sign the paper.
00:48:18.000So, uh, I just, uh, that's about where we're at.
00:48:21.000Uh, we're taking on the, uh, You know, it's like taking on the people by the throat and saying, you're either going to choke on it or you're going to swallow it one way or the other, but it's going to be there for you to see.
00:48:36.000Well, Mr. Ambrosic, let me just put this out here on record.
00:48:40.000The good news is Hundreds of mainstream hosts that didn't believe me just two or three years ago, who would interview me and attack me, are now having to at least say that this needs to be looked at, 9-11 needs to be looked at.
00:48:52.000Everywhere I see that people are finally starting to have the lightbulb go on.
00:48:56.000I think God's Spirit is moving across this land, giving us one last chance for a reprieve, like none of us got.
00:49:03.000We're being given one last chance to stand up and to tell the truth and to stop World War III and to get more time to save more souls and to reach out to more people and to turn against all this evil that has taken over our country.
00:49:17.000And if we do not listen to that call, if we do not all Take action now.
00:49:22.000We are going to be judged, and this country is going to be hell on earth very, very soon.
00:49:27.000Folks, you're going to lose your houses.
00:49:30.000Many of us are going to be put in labor camps.
00:49:32.000They are really trying to set this up.
00:49:35.000You know, Ellis, if we wish to continue to claim the freedoms our forefathers and our foremothers gave their lives for to create for us this freedom that we have, We're going to have to keep doing something, and of course I have the radio station, you have the listening audience that you have out there, and I think we are putting a dent into things.
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00:54:33.000It would be a great place to organize, get together in the fight against the New World Order crime syndicate.
00:54:39.000Jack, in closing, again, to you and to every other station owner and manager that carries this show, we don't do this enough so I wanted to do it today.
00:54:49.000I thank you from the bottom of my heart what you're doing.
00:54:52.000We are standing in the gap in history.
00:54:54.000We are attempting to stop another Hitlerian takeover.
00:54:57.000So again, from the bottom of my heart, thank you and God bless you, Jack.
00:55:01.000And likewise too, Alex, because, you know, our role is to reveal the frauds and the deceptions that have been perpetrated against us by those we have trusted, elected, and in public office.
00:55:11.000So, you give up doing the good work, and we'll give up doing our end.
00:55:15.000Maybe someday I can get up there to have some type of event in your neck of the woods.
00:55:19.000We're going to, in the next year or so, be doing more travel and visiting with more people because it's so important to get together and just share information.
00:55:27.000The spirit of action and resistance that comes out of that is so exciting.
00:55:32.000Is there a radio station website or any other contact info you'd like to give out?
00:56:30.000They try to announce their evil incrementally and get us to join in with them and get us to morally accept what they're doing.
00:56:36.000And once they get the door open, Once they get that tacit approval and permission, all hell starts breaking loose.
00:56:43.000So we'll be talking about that in the next hour, the upcoming war with Iran they're trying to cook up with an amazing individual, Davidson Lohr, who I even have family, father-in-law and mother-in-law, that go to his fine church, and he made national headlines when he went public.
01:00:56.000Came back and took 15 years before I understood that we had no business being there.
01:01:02.000We had no idea what we were doing there and we didn't do it right once we were there.
01:01:07.000So I've felt that I was patriotic and serving the country however I could serve it and that's made it hardest to come to the realization that a lot of Americans have come to and that most are going to have to come to that Our government did 9-11.
01:02:31.000I did a sermon called Habits of the Heart, and when I was seeing the patterns of some of this, I was talking about John Perkins' book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, and I was seeing some of the patterns of what he was describing and the way that we take over countries and so on, and I was working on the sermon draft Friday night and thinking, the patterns can't stop at our borders.
01:02:56.000These are patterns that have to go on everywhere.
01:02:59.000And then realized that 9-11 fit into this perfectly.
01:03:02.000So I threw 9-11 in at the end of the sermon as an illustration, which is not a smart thing to do with something as powerful as 9-11.
01:03:13.000And I threw out some websites that I'd copied from David Griffin, and I hadn't checked them, and I don't think David had either.
01:03:20.000And websites that also had Holocaust denial and stuff like that, that makes it very easy just to trash them and trash everything coming with them.
01:03:29.000So I caught heat, I think, partly for that.
01:03:31.000But we had over 500 people there that Sunday.
01:03:35.000About a third at one of the two services gave a standing ovation.
01:03:39.000And around three to five people all together walked out.
01:03:43.000We're going to break and we come back.
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01:06:53.000He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:07:20.000And I would like you to kind of recap and go back through a YouTube video clip I saw posted from a few months ago, or I guess just a few weeks ago, after you premiered my film, Martial Law, there at the church, which I appreciate you doing, to a packed house.
01:08:19.000I think that politics, religion, a lot of institutions like this are places where we trust that people will try to serve something transcendent rather than just caving in and selling out.
01:08:45.000And the motive, I think, is the most important question.
01:08:48.000I want to get into that, but first, you got standing ovations when you went public on 9-11.
01:08:53.000You got a standing ovation when you gave a speech after airing one of my 9-11 films, or segments of it, Martial Law.
01:09:00.000I mean, that's a key here, that your Yes, and it's kind of a vicious circle.
01:09:07.000People who read the Austin American States when I went and looked at the emails and the comments and the blogs, they were predominantly positive.
01:09:12.000You got a lot of support around the country.
01:09:14.000It's still the mainstream media, though, that tries to tar and feather people that go against the official orthodoxy.
01:09:20.000Yes, and it's kind of a vicious circle.
01:09:22.000The mainstream media doesn't want to touch it because the mainstream media hasn't touched it, and so it isn't fit to touch.
01:09:29.000And other people don't trust 9-11 truth stuff because the mainstream media haven't covered it.
01:09:34.000So it's quite a circle that seems to be turning now.
01:09:38.000The story seems to be creeping into mainstream media in a lot of different places.
01:09:42.000And isn't a lot of that that Bush has been caught, and his controllers have been caught, lying about WNDs, and it came out they premeditatedly lied, we already knew that, but now we've got the documents, White House, Downing Street Memo,
01:09:53.000That they lied about so many other things, that they were involved in Enron, and the trillions missing from the Pentagon, and people are now learning about more and more crimes, and they're seeing this ominous police state being set up, and I just think instinctively at people's cores, not just the information, instinctively people know, well there is a threat, but the government tells me it's Al Qaeda, but I get the feeling the threat's really this government.
01:10:17.000Yeah, I think all this points to a deeper sense of distrust.
01:10:21.000No, the Greeks had a motto that character is destiny, and I think that people are beginning to see the character of the people in the administration.
01:10:28.000And when people start saying, all right, wait a minute, would people who torture prisoners, who hide them illegally, who arrest people without warrants, who suspend habeas corpus, who lie about WMD, who steal two elections in a row, Who transfer wealth to the top half or tenth of a percent of the people hidden on page 26 because the 9-11 stuff has covered it.
01:10:51.000Would people like this actually lie to us?
01:10:53.000Would people like this be willing to kill 3,000 Americans in order to mobilize the country?
01:10:58.000And once you ask that question the answer is Yes, they would.
01:11:02.000They would more than anyone I can think of.
01:11:04.000Yeah, I mean if you could repeat in a nutshell that speech, the last speech you gave that I saw to the members of your flock there.
01:11:26.000I think it's important you know it's a rule in debate that before you can argue against something you need to be able to make the argument for it in ways that people who believe in it would agree with and that was that was hard for me but I think I do understand why they did it and I think that the logic is absolutely compelling I think it's evil but I think it's compelling and I think it's this after the fall of communism people began realizing we're the only bully in the world no one can stop us
01:11:54.000Someone is going to write the rules for the way the world runs.
01:11:59.000Now, depending on how you finish this sentence, it may either be a noble thing or not a noble thing.
01:12:05.000If you finish the sentence by saying, we want to write the rules of the world so that they serve the majority of the people, so that they help everyone reach their full humanity, so on and so forth, then that's one case.
01:12:17.000That's not the way the sentence was finished.
01:12:19.000The way the New World Order finishes the sentence is, we want to rewrite the rules of the world so that the people who own the world get to run the world.
01:12:28.000And no one else has the power to stop them from doing it.
01:12:31.000It's a plutocracy, it's an imperialism, it's a rewarding the rich, it's eliminating the middle class, and that's where it turns evil.
01:12:39.000They compared themselves to, I guess, FDR in Pearl Harbor when they prayed since Brzezinski in 97 was praying for a new Pearl Harbor and the Project for a New American Century prayed for a new Pearl Harbor.
01:12:55.000They knew it would take something like that to mobilize and numb the American people enough to do this.
01:13:00.000And they were so arrogant they said that!
01:13:02.000And they set it right out and are quite proud of it.
01:13:04.000And I think that's what I mean by the power of the logic.
01:13:07.000They really believe history has offered us a chance to rewrite the rules of the world, and if we don't take it, we're not only stupid, we're cowards.
01:13:14.000There's a lot of power to that argument.
01:13:17.000And if what they were trying to do was rewrite the rules absolutely to empower people, to empower humanity, so on and so forth, then I think we'd have the whole world behind us.
01:13:27.000But it's not what they're trying to do, and that's why the whole world is turning against us.
01:13:32.000And now they've been somewhat honest too on neocon fake conservative radio because the listeners call and go, yeah we want the oil and you know we know best and it's America and it's going to be good for my pocketbook.
01:13:43.000But when you read the Globalist Stone documents, you know we're going to pay for all this.
01:13:49.000We're not, as the American people, you know part of this and part of this great glory.
01:13:54.000This new world order means the end of the United States as well in a very dark Worldwide Empire.
01:13:59.000So you read those PNAC documents and other documents.
01:14:01.000Now we've got Gulliver's Travails, an Air Force document from 97 as well, where they say we need a huge terror attack to mobilize and dominate the planet.
01:14:09.000And when they say dominate the planet, they mean a new dark age of consolidation and control.
01:14:44.000Two and a half months before, he buys them for a very small investment of a couple hundred million dollars, or he leases them on a 100-year lease, and then he takes out a double policies of $3.5 billion apiece and has collected on those.
01:14:57.000So, we're looking at a seven plus billion dollar profit.
01:15:25.000We get to have a domestic police state.
01:15:27.000We get to service the economy and give contracts to all our buddies to move the military industrial complex not just into overseas, but now in orchestrating and Lockheed even running the red light cameras, the face scanners, servicing the databases, NSA systems.
01:15:41.000And then, oh by the way, where do we pick a target?
01:15:43.000Well, we've got one of our operatives, well known to be involved in trafficking of certain things, Larry Silverstein.
01:16:00.000I mean, they just go right down the line.
01:16:02.000And there's another dimension to it that's surrealistic.
01:16:07.000These people were bright enough to have put together a very slick story.
01:16:11.000This thing was planned far in advance, but they didn't do that.
01:16:15.000And there's something in the story that they passed off That is a mockery, that is a kind of slapping at anyone who's dumb enough to believe it.
01:16:24.000Buildings that fall straight down as only controlled demolition makes them happen, that Dan Rather, that all the news reports on 9-11 observed.
01:17:15.000And if they just applied the brilliance in another way, they could have been successful, but it wouldn't have had the challenge, wouldn't have had the smugness that they get, I think.
01:17:24.000And I think part of what's poisonous about that cockiness Is the cynicism that then it's easy to feel that the dupes that you can dupe, us, that you can dupe, really deserve what they're getting.
01:17:35.000They really don't deserve better if they're that sick.
01:17:37.000Well, that's the whole social Darwinism of, hey, these idiots can't figure this out, and so this is what they deserve.
01:17:48.000When we get back, I want to talk about, Pastor, where you see this going in the future.
01:17:52.000And you talk about this wake-up happening, and for every action there's an equal reaction, as we know.
01:17:56.000I mean, that's just the laws of science.
01:17:58.000So there is this reaction now, as their power grows, our power grows, but ours is fractured and organic, which has strengths and weaknesses.
01:18:06.000Theirs is so centralized, We're also seeing fishers in the elite.
01:18:10.000Some people are going, hey, this is dangerous.
01:18:12.000You guys have upset the whole apple cart.
01:18:14.000Some of the European elite we know are saying, hey, gradual power, soft power.
01:18:18.000Let's go seduce countries and get them to go along with us.
01:18:20.000You're going to get us actually, our butts kicked if you keep being aggressive about all this.
01:18:25.000I want to get your view on that because I really respect your view.
01:18:30.000You know, that speech you gave where you talked about how, you know, well they've done this, this and that, all these other bad things.
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01:23:06.000I mean, the 9-11 Truth Movement, every six months, we look at the numbers, it's roughly doubling the number of people that visit the sites that are awakening.
01:23:13.000It's exponential, and I think the imperial hubris, in a way, was a weakness of the establishment.
01:23:20.000I see a lot of the arrogance now evaporating.
01:23:31.000They're starting to act more desperate.
01:23:33.000The business of attacking anyone in the 9-11 Truth Movement as either aiding the terrorists or being anti-Semitic or the rest of this stuff.
01:23:44.000This kind of name-calling seems to be cornered people.
01:24:19.000But I think That we may be coming toward the hundredth monkey, toward the tipping point, where there are enough people who are willing to say the really hard thing to say, which is that, my God, our government did this.
01:24:32.000I understand why they did it, I understand the logic, and maybe if I were that ambitious, I would have done the same thing.
01:24:40.000But it's evil, and it isn't the best of America.
01:24:43.000This kind of thing, this focusing on the nationalism of America, Instead of on the high values that made America great is the same kind of thing that's happened to the Christianity in America.
01:24:56.000The churches that are supporting this fascism are teaching a religion about Jesus that Jesus would have detested.
01:25:04.000The religion of Jesus is very simple and very hard.
01:25:08.000The quality of your faith is judged by how you treat those who are least among you.
01:25:12.000There isn't a harder rule anywhere than that, or a more honest one.
01:25:20.000But I wish these arrogant people, these evil people, realized the intense Pleasure of being humble and of serving others and of guarding the little ones in the weak.
01:25:33.000I've had a lot of great experiences in my life.
01:25:37.000I've been a lot more arrogant and aggressive in the past and I was not happy then.
01:25:40.000As I get more and more humble and as I get more and more of a servant attitude, it's wonderful.
01:25:45.000I feel so sorry for evil people or just decadent people who never experience that.
01:25:51.000Yeah, there's a Buddhist story saying that the oceans are so great and powerful because they're lower than the rivers and their humility gives them the strength.
01:26:04.000What do you see happening in the next few months?
01:26:06.000I mean, I see a prime chance for them to stage another terror attack, a similar prediction I made before 9-11, with the caveat that if we speak up now and exert ourselves, we could back them off and stop them.
01:26:18.000I've only made two predictions, and I've made this second one, and give me your gut-level analysis.
01:26:24.000I think they could do it, and I think that the public response Has helped stop some of it.
01:26:32.000I think the public response is effective.
01:26:34.000I think as people find their voices, it's getting effective.
01:26:40.000You know, I think if they get scared enough, they'll pull off a really big terror attack.
01:26:45.000But at least we forced that, and it's not on their clock, it's not on their agenda, and I think if they do that out of arrogance or out of fear, I think it's going to backfire even bigger.
01:26:54.000The problem is, with this system falling, it's going to be painful.
01:26:59.000Yeah, and everything's at stake for them.
01:27:01.000I think they have to pull out all the stops.
01:27:03.000Getting Bush into the White House under the Cheney administration was what they needed to be able to bring their plan into effect.
01:27:10.000You know, they'd written President Clinton about it in, what, 97 or 98.
01:27:26.000I don't think there's anything they would not do.
01:27:29.000Well, I agree with you and the other analysts I talked to agree.
01:27:31.000They have overextended themselves so far in this Ponzi scheme that they need to pump it up to the next level to kind of smokescreen the past.
01:27:46.000They're failing so many places that I just know we're in a really interesting time right now.
01:27:52.000You said something a while ago that brought up another, what I think is a really important idea.
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01:28:04.000And I was at a meeting a couple years ago with a very good speaker, and someone talked to her about speaking truth to power, and she scoffed.
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01:32:34.000You talked about, you know, don't speak truth to power because, and I'm talking about real power, really evil people.
01:32:40.000Obviously speak truth to county commissioners and congressmen and women, but we're talking about really evil people like Rumsfeld or Bush or Cheney or their controllers.
01:32:53.000They know they can get away with doing just these horrible things because society could never come to grips with facing the full horror.
01:33:00.000But I think the survival mechanism has kicked in and people instinctively know We better face this truth or things are going to get just worse and worse.
01:33:10.000We have Bush coming out in a speech yesterday saying, well, we don't torture people, we just get rough with them and pressure them.
01:33:16.000Well, that's the Alberto Gonzalez memos when he was White House Counsel.
01:33:20.000He said, well, we won't call it torture, we'll call it pressure, and if they die under pressure, that's legal, and we didn't mean to kill them.
01:33:27.000And then John Yoo writes a memo about crushing children's genitalia.
01:33:30.000And I hate to mention that a lot, but I mean, folks, he wrote this.
01:33:44.000So the Army's own report, just from Abu Ghraib, one of 30-something camps in Iraq.
01:33:48.000Then they've got dozens all over Central Asia and the Middle East and Egypt and Jordan and places in Eastern Europe.
01:33:56.000And they admittedly, folks, are taking little kids in there and they are hiring former federal jail guards that have been fired for sexual abuse.
01:34:13.000Maximum type wickedness, that even though they admit it, when I say it, I feel like I'm a liar because my mind can't even, to myself, as much as I know about these people, I can't fully fathom that.
01:34:26.000I mean, we know governments have done things like this before, but I've never known of a government, in modern history, the Nazis hid what they were doing.
01:34:34.000I mean, this government is in hiding, and they know psychologically that if they can just announce and throw down the gauntlet, The nature of evil is primarily selfishness.
01:34:41.000us to somehow accept that, then they've set the precedent to do whatever they want.
01:34:46.000So, Pastor, Lord, can you speak to the nature of evil?
01:34:50.000The nature of evil is primarily selfishness.
01:34:54.000It's primarily exalting what you want and what serves you at the expense of everyone else.
01:34:59.000It's making everyone else means to your end, that turns them into things that you can do whatever you like with as long as it gets you your end.
01:35:08.000And if you get in that mindset it's very easy to feel it and to feel nothing about it.
01:35:14.000And I think that's what's taken over now in our country.
01:36:10.000And it is, as Vice President Wallace said over 60 years ago, more concerned with controlling the information and the stories.
01:36:17.000It's a softer kind of approach to this at first, though apparently we have prison camps being built in the country and all this kind of stuff.
01:37:03.000To say that on the air, they certainly both knew better than this, because the hate list they came out with then was precisely the same hate list that the Fundamentalists of Islam had come out with, that Khomeini had come out with in 79.
01:37:18.000They hate ovidy people, they hate liberated women, they hate gays.
01:37:24.000And I thought then, what surprises me is that these guys are so media savvy, they knew better than to say that with the mics on.
01:37:31.000Well, but at the same time, it's a scapegoat.
01:37:34.000I mean, they themselves, it's well known the White House, most of the White House taste is not what it was in the past, the high class female hookers.
01:37:43.000They like the guys with the military haircuts and they're bringing in so many male prostitutes and basically the carport's full.
01:37:50.000So at the same time, they're always attacking and have these football issues, you know, to try to divide people, but they're really into it.
01:37:57.000Well, and I think any psychologist would say that makes perfect sense.
01:38:01.000If you're going to act out at one extreme that isn't honest, something in the background is kind of like the portrait of Dorian Gray.
01:38:08.000If you're going to wear your pretty face to hide all your evil, the evil is going to grow and grow and grow inside of you.
01:38:15.000And I think it is evil, and I think I'm not saying evil in the sense that we're all good and they're all bad and we ought to go kill them.
01:38:21.000I'm saying this is a waste, not only of America and of lives in Iraq and around the world, this is a waste of human potential everywhere.
01:38:30.000No, exactly, and instead of being the beacon of truth and being respected and loved despite our problems, we really now, they've taken us from the most loved to the most hated in just a few years and it's, it's, and they're on overdrive.
01:38:42.000I mean, these people are totally disconnected from the reality of what they're causing.
01:38:49.000And, of course, we say they know the truth.
01:38:52.000They callously know what they're doing, but I think there's also a lot of delusion going on.
01:38:58.000There's a lot of delusion going on, and once again it comes back to the two images, an image of wholeness and of humanity kind of brought to its fullest.
01:39:08.000You have this maybe in the Marshall Plan after World War II, where here was a power that, for the first time in history that I know of, actually helped the people it had just defeated.
01:39:18.000Yes, there were some selfish interests involved, we wanted trading partners, we wanted the rest of it, but we didn't have to do it that way.
01:39:25.000We could have vanquished them the way we did after World War I at Versailles, and we didn't.
01:39:29.000We did something very noble with the Marshall Plan.
01:39:31.000Well, they learned from Versailles, that grew Hitler.
01:39:33.000That's right, and that grew Hitler, and now we're going back I'm learning everything that we've learned.
01:40:12.000And to come to this Bush, I think that he was a brilliant choice for the neocons for president.
01:40:18.000And the reason is, and this is more psychology than anything, But if you look just at George W. Bush's history, he has failed at everything he's done as an adult.
01:40:28.000He's been bailed out by his daddy's rich friends in every single business venture, and the Saudi Arabian family.
01:40:33.000Well, he really was flunking out of Yale like Cheney did twice, but they basically went in with some endowments, so he got it.
01:40:40.000And he was put into the White House, among other reasons, though I think we have a confluence of several things going on now that were unrelated but that have been tied together like a braid.
01:40:49.000He was put into the White House for, among other reasons, to repay his daddy's rich friends, and he's done that splendidly.
01:40:55.000I think the other agendas that have come in are the imperialism, the more worldwide ambitions, abroad, the plutocracy at home, the transfer of wealth to the rich, the removal of rights so that people can't protest that in any way, And then the use, as Hitler did too, the use of a very degraded form of religion as kind of a German Christian church, is what they called it in the Nazi times.
01:41:20.000But when you have, what's his name, Hege?
01:41:38.000Perhaps this is what they brought Christianity to.
01:41:40.000Perhaps they own the symbols of Christianity so that those who follow Jesus won't be able to reclaim the symbols and Christianity will die the way it died in Germany after World War II, the way it died in Spain.
01:41:52.000After Franco had brought the church into power with him.
01:41:55.000Maybe they'll do that to Christianity.
01:41:58.000Once the state takes over a religion, once that current government falls, then churches that were filled before are dead because people know that's a dead institution.
01:42:46.000The IRS thing with the Episcopal Church in California trying to remove its sex-exempt status from speaking out.
01:42:53.000As far as I know, they haven't ever pressed anything against any of the megachurches or Reverend Hagee or any of the rest of these people.
01:43:00.000Because they're government mouthpieces.
01:43:01.000Because they are government mouthpieces.
01:43:03.000So again, it isn't that they're trying to separate church and state.
01:43:06.000I like church and state separated too.
01:43:09.000I just think churches have to speak up on high ideals and values.
01:43:13.000And to be clear, the government isn't to be involved in the churches, and you're not going to have a government state-controlled church.
01:43:19.000So in the name of separation of church and state, they're saying the government's going to come in and regulate churches.
01:43:24.000That's the opposite of the First Amendment.
01:43:25.000Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
01:43:30.000Yes, and the law, and I like the law, the law is that churches can't be partisan politics if they want to keep their taxes exempt status but that they may speak out on issues and I would say they must speak out on issues and that stopped too.
01:43:47.000There's a chilling silence in all the public.
01:43:49.000But even before that, 50 years ago, we didn't even have the tax exemptions.
01:43:52.000Again, that itself violates the First Amendment.
01:43:55.000Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
01:44:08.000It's been a long time since I had a chance to talk to you.
01:44:11.000One thing you haven't really mentioned about maybe the reason that these people are accepting a lot of the things they see in the media is because of the illiteracy rate in the U.S.
01:44:23.000I work at a medical facility and the doctors are taught to talk to patients At a much lower education level and use words they understand because These government statistics... Well, it's more than that.
01:44:36.000I mean, I've had former, you know, number two heads of the Department of Education on.
01:44:41.000There was a concerted effort to dumb the population down, to standardize, to make people basically mindless automatons.
01:44:48.000The government and the media are also attacking the language.
01:44:50.000They're changing the meanings, the semantical meanings of words, and then also reducing words.
01:44:55.000The language is being reduced, which is right out of 1984.
01:45:05.000I think it's like 6% read books and I think we're only talking about... I forget the number.
01:45:12.000It's higher than that but still quite low that are literate.
01:45:16.000And then others are functionally literate.
01:45:19.000And that's why the Illuminati can put all these different things right in your face and the people that watch your show or listen to you have the insight of what's going on.
01:45:38.000I was talking to a British broadcaster on air yesterday, and he told the story, and I've had similar things happen to myself.
01:45:44.000And he's talking to another, I believe he said it was a reporter, about 1984, and look at all the cameras, and how do you think they should put cameras and microphones in the houses.
01:45:57.000And the other reporter said to him, well yeah, but Winston was the bad guy in that book and the government was actually trying to help the people.
01:46:07.000And so that shows the brainwashing that even quote educated people read a horrifying book like 1984 and because they see it now in the real world they make an instant decision to double think or crime stop and rationalize and then accept it.
01:46:27.000Yeah, one other dimension of this, in the dumbing down of America, you go back to some of the Lincoln-Douglas debates from 150 years ago, some of these lasted four hours, and had audiences of hundreds of people listening to four hour debates on political issues with tremendous detail, and even big words.
01:46:46.000And now we're really in an oral culture.
01:46:49.000Where it's dumbed down, not to four hour arguments, but to sound bites and bumper stickers and bumper sticker theology.
01:46:56.000Yes, give the people more beer and burritos!
01:47:47.000Well, I would add to that that you do have a mass, hundreds of millions of people in North America, Canada, and the U.S. who are informed, who do know how to read, who do know.
01:47:55.000They're just kind of caught up in the fake left-right paradigm and confused by all the smoke and mirrors.
01:48:00.000There's different brands of propaganda in media.
01:48:02.000There's propaganda interlaced in NASCAR, and that's just Bush out there in a NASCAR uniform going, I love NASCAR.
01:48:08.000And then above that, you go all the way up to the Wall Street Journal, which is sophisticated propaganda.
01:48:13.000They have different sub-brands and niches to program different masses of people.
01:48:17.000So understand, even if the general public are mindless furniture drooling and just thinking about how to have more baubles to look cool in front of their neighbors, or a bunch of strutting, semi-entitialists.
01:48:32.000We've still got a giant cadres of people that are informed, and those of us that are informed and who aren't trying to be evil, none of us are perfect, we're not trying to be evil, though.
01:49:07.000Yes, and once you get past that and are able to say, wait a minute, they did the experiments at Tuskegee, the CIA did bring drugs into L.A.
01:49:16.000You can make a long list of the things that they've done and say, yes, we've done it in the past.
01:49:20.000I've got Chicago Tribune, hundreds of thousands sterilized, girls that would make under a B+, single-parent homes, white, black, didn't matter.
01:49:29.000They just would take them and have medical students cut their... I don't want to get into it, but the point is, I mean, how'd they keep that secret for 60 years?
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01:55:13.000There will be a ban on things, even things like utility parts, things to do with telecommunications, things to do with water utilities in Iran.
01:55:28.000They're going to restrict training and education.
01:55:42.000Right, and no negotiation by anyone including, let's say, Finland or Sweden or anybody else will be able to talk to Iran because the UN Security Council has the power to change international relations according to their resolutions.
01:55:58.000Do you have a comment or question for our guest?
01:56:01.000Well, I think people should be aware that they're using these structures of peace for war.
01:56:09.000But war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is... Yeah, I'd say, we've talked about Karl Rove saying publicly that They create the reality as they go along, and the spin that they give to the public is never intended to be true.
01:56:27.000The spin they give to the public is intended to be the best tactic to sell the agenda that they want to sell.
01:56:34.000So, if calling black white is what does it, they'll call black white, and they feel justified in doing this because they think they're on a sacred mission.
01:56:44.000And think of how arrogantly and how stupid they think we are that their own memos get released where they're going, we're going to lie to him and claim he's got WMDs and we ought to stage some war provocation and we want to do this and we need to crack down on dissidence domestically.
01:56:59.000I mean, that's all available to people, but it's so scary a lot of people who are smart willfully decide to just disregard it.
01:59:52.000When we talk about the government carrying out the attack, we mean very small black ops squads and tiny agencies or tiny sectors of agencies interlocking with other foreign intelligence agencies being supported by defense contractors.
02:00:05.000So, when we say the government, but it's good that people are in the governmental system because they can leak information, they can be whistleblowers.
02:00:13.000In fact, would you like to comment on that, Pastor?
02:00:17.000Most of the people in the government are good.
02:00:18.000I did a sermon several years ago where I, I don't even remember the subject, but I made the statement about how the government is doing this and it's bad.
02:00:26.000And I probably had five people in the church come up to me afterward who all work for the government here in Austin and said they were hurt by that, that the reason that they went into that job was to do good, not to do harm.
02:00:40.000And it was sobering for me to realize, let's give most of the people in the government credit.
02:00:45.000They're really good people who really want to do the right thing.
02:00:47.000Well, it's a cross-section of society.
02:00:49.000Most police are good, but the training they're given, the systems they're taught, are fraud and is oppressive.
02:00:56.000I understand, but what I'm saying is, they don't want to, I mean, think of it, their whole livelihood is tied up into it.
02:01:08.000I mean, it's like if you found out, you know, say if you're married and you found out your wife's cheating on you, first you're going to have denial.
02:01:16.000And this is even more because, you know, these guys, the cost-benefit analysis like you talk about, they saw how much of, you know, the economy and how much of this country, or the government, different agencies actually control.
02:01:32.000So they said, well, even if we do get caught, What are these people going to do?
02:01:37.000Because they're beholden to our money.
02:01:43.000People who work for the government have the misconception that then if elements of the government do wrong and they expose it, somehow that reflects on them.
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02:06:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:06:07.000Coming up in about 20 minutes, I'm going to shift gears into a big news blitz.
02:06:16.000Also, Jason Bermas of Loose Change 2nd Edition is going to be joining us about the big demonstrations that are going to be happening in New York over the weekend.
02:06:24.000And on Monday, I'll be there in the Big Apple up against the dictator so they don't get up there to have a chance to stand up there and grandstand off the deaths and murders they committed.
02:06:34.00028-year career CIA official, says 9-11 an inside job, highlights missing Pentagon trillions as potential motive.
02:06:42.000Also, Anderson Cooper, CIA past, Bush, secret CIA prisons, a vital tool.
02:06:49.000We'll also get into the story out of Reuters.
02:06:51.000New Yorkers need to be ready to, quote, evacuate, experts say.
02:06:55.000These drills are all part of terrorizing the public and creating the illusion that there really is a terrorist threat from the outside.
02:07:03.000It is all coming up here in this third and final hour.
02:07:06.000We're in our final segment right now with the author of America, Fascism, and God, Sermons from a Heretical Preacher, Davidson Lohr, is our guest, Austin Pastor.
02:07:16.000And again, we are so honored to have him on with us today.
02:07:21.000Pastor, for folks that would like to go to your church or people who would like to be able to attend some of the meetings and discussions that you guys have, tell us about where the church is located or any phone numbers, any websites you'd like to give out before we go to some calls.
02:08:26.000I've been listening for a couple of weeks, so I'm a little bit new to this, so I'm trying to get my arms around it, and I've got three questions, and they're kind of fundamental.
02:09:28.000Some people are starting to call them neofascists, and that feels more accurate, more descriptive.
02:09:33.000It's not quite strong enough, but yeah, it's good.
02:09:36.000Because the reason for calling them neofascists is that what they want is the marriage of Government serving the agenda of large corporations and big money.
02:09:46.000That's pretty close to a definition of fascism.
02:09:55.000It's a freedom to plunder for those with the power to plunder.
02:09:59.000Yeah, when you hear security, security, they carried out the attacks, didn't quote bring in their security, which is really a chaining you down so they can have their way with you.
02:10:21.000And you have to understand, the neocons are a client management group that was able to shell elites, the oil companies and others, though some of the old elites are going, you guys have really endangered things, but the neocons are in control.
02:10:33.000The neocons are Elliott Abrams, Wormser, Crystal, Bush, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney.
02:10:43.000There's 25 of them that are part of the Project for a New American Century, but then they have a whole nest of them controlling the dominant positions on the Council on Foreign Relations, and they openly hearken back to philosophers and political scientists like Strauss, who were fascist and who believe in a fascist model.
02:11:58.000It's frightening, but it's encouraging.
02:12:00.000Well, it lets the establishment know that the jig is up.
02:12:03.000The left-right paradigm has been shattered because conservatives are figuring out that conservative leaders aren't conservative and don't represent us.
02:12:10.000Liberals are figuring out that liberal leaders have been bought off and don't represent us.
02:12:54.000It's about 8 foot high, about 20 feet long, and people go down there and they write stuff on it with chalk.
02:12:59.000And I happened to pass by there the other day and someone had written Infowars.com across it.
02:13:06.000Also, I was watching TV last night, the NewsHour on PBS, and they were interviewing a construction worker who was a volunteer at Ground Zero and some of the ill health effects that he had suffered as a result.
02:14:33.000If you look at the evidence, it's just, and I see you nodding your head, Pastor.
02:14:37.000Sure, the bombs that they found inside of the buildings, the fact that they said these were not fertilizer bombs that made this happen, on and on and on.
02:14:59.000You know, even a cursory reading of history brings out the fact that religion is behind practically, say, 90% of the wars down through history.
02:15:15.000But they're stupid enough to believe it.
02:15:18.000Like 25 million here listen to this baloney about the kings of the east and the kingdoms of the north are all going to come together in a great clash and this is going to be it and we're going to be wasted away.
02:15:50.000I'll take more calls later, but let me just say on this subject, please don't blame Christianity for people that are misappropriating it and using it.
02:16:07.000Well, just on his comment that the great religious teachers, and just to take Jesus, since he's talking about Christianity in America, always say that the right path is very, very narrow and few choose it, and the broad path is the one that most follows.
02:16:24.000It absolutely leads to destruction and war and the Crusades and all the rest that we've seen.
02:16:28.000I would like to see the religion of Buddha, of Jesus, of the great Hindu teachers, of Muhammad at his best rather than the religions about them that have been subverted to serve nationalistic and greedy and murderous schemes come to the fore.
02:16:47.000Well, I myself am a Christian, and I have a personal relationship, and I know it's real.
02:16:52.000And then I can just look at these phony Christian leaders on television, and they're a bunch of pimps.
02:16:57.000They're dressed up like pimps, and they act like pimps, and they've got pinky rings on, and they're up there just... I mean, how can people look at that, and that's not Christian?
02:17:33.000Alright, we're going to come right back with Jason Bermas of Loose Change 2nd Edition to talk about the big rallies coming up in New York this weekend and on Monday.
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02:22:04.000The makers of Loose Change 2, 2nd edition.
02:22:07.000They've got the big 3rd edition coming out in a few months.
02:22:09.000And they're going to be a big part of the vigils and the visibility of 9-11 Truth in New York and I'm honored to be To be joining them coming up throughout the weekend and on Monday.
02:22:56.000And we have something like 1,100 t-shirts to hand out to everybody.
02:23:00.000I think we have something like 250 signs that are all plastic because there's certain regulations of what you can and can't bring down there, but we made sure we got the right stuff.
02:23:08.000And we're really ready to become very visible this 9-11.
02:23:58.000Well, you need to hit them on the fact about how they claim that no planes ever got intercepted, but the very same major who made that claim is in Reuters talking about hundreds of intercepts.
02:24:13.000We are putting together a package, and we're bringing a DVD player, and apparently Glenn Beck is going to have us in studio later in the day after we're done with the Ground Zero vigil.
02:24:23.000And we're going to hit them with the facts, too.
02:24:24.000These neocons and these left gatekeepers think they can keep the lid on this.
02:25:48.000And to have him have the nerve to come down to ground zero this year and grandstand like you said and really try to play the hero's role it's so revolting and disgusting to me that I really hope that that encourages even more people to come out to ground zero because if you're close and you're going to let this monster just sit there and just reiterate the lie I mean you're just as guilty you know silence is betrayal that's that's the bottom line What time are we meeting up?
02:26:20.000We're going to try to get there early so, you know, if people, you know, need to come in and get DVDs from us so they can hand them out to other people and signs, we're going to be prepared.
02:26:27.000So, you know, we're going to try to be there as early as possible.
02:26:31.000It's exciting and it's another example of what three highly motivated people can do.
02:26:37.000And you guys are a testament to everyone else as models of this fight.
02:27:18.000Like I said, we have international media covering us Monday.
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02:31:06.000And what I would do out of the gates going up against Popular Mechanics is I would say, you guys are the ones that put out the singing of the main story.
02:31:13.000You are in the encyclopedia, Hearst Publishing, Popular Mechanics, in the debate they're going to have with them.
02:31:18.000You're in the encyclopedia as the fathers of yellow journalism.
02:31:22.000You lied and said that your chief editor over this project, Benjamin Chertoff, wasn't related to Michael Chertoff, Homeland Security Director.
02:31:30.000Turns out they're close family friends.
02:31:32.000He's a first cousin and they dine together.
02:32:30.000And at the end of it, she was in the audience, and she came up and gave this really hypocritical speech that if the media wasn't reporting the truth, they should have their licenses revoked.
02:32:38.000So I'm thinking to myself, this lady won't even touch 9-11 truth.
02:32:42.000So, you know, me and Dylan, we set up the camera, and I personally confronted her, handed her a DVD, and I mean, she's come out against our movie so many times, saying it's ridiculous, I can't wait to see what she has to say.
02:32:52.000In fact, I just FedExed her a copy of the latest edition.
02:32:54.000Let me tell you what's going to happen.
02:32:57.000Out of the gates, you need to say, there's two of you against me.
02:35:28.000And Jason Burmiss, I just really appreciate you joining us.
02:35:31.000We have the itinerary for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday and Monday posted on InfoWars.com.
02:35:37.000And I can't wait to see you guys there in New York.
02:35:40.000This is going to be historical as the man who wants to play hero, the man who fronts for the people that carried out the attacks, is going to be In two sites in New York, grandstanding and in D.C.
02:35:50.000and there are going to be people there in D.C.
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02:40:02.000I wanted to talk about, there's two government documents, I don't know if you're aware of them, that in their own words show that according to them, a plane hitting the building at World Trade Center would not cause the collapse.
02:41:05.000If you could get your hands on these documents, Alex, you would have in your hands the government's own words saying planes do not cause a collapse if they hit the building.
02:41:12.000No, I've been on the NISC site and I believe I've read over those and seen those.
02:41:16.000Plus, we had Namuru Yamasaki, the designer, the architect, and then we also had, I forget his name, he's an Italian gentleman who was the Chief Construction Engineer, who died on 9-11, a year before the attacks on PBS, talking about how the buildings were meant to be designed to be hit by two 707s apiece.
02:41:35.000Okay, but if the footnotes said that John Dragonetti sent them in that three-page memo, according to the book, Sitting in the Sky of the Rise and the Fall of the World Trade Center, That memo is called, it's a white paper, called selling at points with regard to the structural design of the World Trade Center towers.
02:41:52.000Well, that's in their own files, so why did he have to send that in to them?
02:42:25.000They're now talking about marks on the license if you've been a drunk driver, marks if you've got a criminal record.
02:42:30.000And the problem is that the government actually releases violent pedophiles, real pedophiles, and then imprisons 18-year-old men who have sex with their 17-year-old girlfriends in high school.
02:42:41.000Most of the quote sex crimes now are you know 20-year-old guy goes out with a 17-year-old sweetheart he's been dating since you know she was 14 and he was he was 16 I mean just there's tens of thousands of these cases a year and it's it's incredible and and so that's who we're talking about being in these databases.
02:43:20.000Homeland Security Director Ridge four years ago on C-SPAN said that if you've got bad credit, it's going to be in the database that your card connects to and that you won't have a green rating.
02:43:30.000So just like there are trusted traveler programs to get on aircraft, it's going to be nationwide, sir.
02:43:36.000You're going to have to have that card and everything is going to be put on your card.
02:43:39.000Any reason to then say, well, you don't have your rights because you violated this or that.
02:44:35.000And also then on Sunday afternoon at 2.30 we're having a public demonstration out on the plaza, 47th and J.C.
02:44:47.000Nichols Parkway at what is commonly called the Horse Fountain.
02:44:51.000And the good news is, all over the country, in small towns and big cities alike, men and women, black and white, old and young, are going out there with their 9-11 truth signs, 9-11 is an inside job, you are exposing these murderers, you are exposing these criminals, and I salute you.
02:45:07.000Well, I have 200 9-11 was an inside job signs to distribute.
02:45:14.000Good, I hope somebody burns a couple hundred copies of Terror Storm to give them out to everyone, that is so important.
02:45:19.000Well, we have people who are doing those things all the time, but this is at this Uptown Theater.
02:45:42.000We have a gentleman named Ed Parker running for Congress to fight the New World Order.
02:45:47.000And he has a website, www.parkerforcongress.com?
02:45:51.000Yeah, there are thousands of 9-11 truth and thousands of anti-New World Order candidates, and they're using their candidacies, some of which are winning, by the way, to stump on TV and in newsprint and at these physical events with all these people there.
02:46:07.000This is how we're defeating the New World Order.
02:46:09.000This is great news because if he doesn't know about your documentary films I've got extra copies and I'm going to give that to people there as well as his supporters because I'm not going to stop this.
02:46:19.000This new World War tyranny we're getting into.
02:46:21.000Another thing I wanted to bring up, did you hear about the new retina scanners to clock in at jobs?
02:46:26.000Yeah, tanning salons, gyms, grocery stores, many jobs, public schools, no cash allowed, you've got a thumb scan to buy your food, libraries.
02:46:38.000This is the new national ID card system integrated with identifiers on your driver's license.
02:46:44.000Yeah, it really is, and it's just the database roundup, too, because it's all going into databases, and I try to tell people that, and it's just some moments now.
02:46:51.000Some of them have waken up, but you've got to realize what's coming.
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02:51:44.000About a month ago, the Neocon radio talk show host began saying that I'm probably with al-Qaeda.
02:52:26.000Yesterday and today, saying that Al-Qaeda has infiltrated our media, and is manipulating not just the 9-11 conspiracy theorists, but the anti-war movement.
02:52:35.000And they tried to put this out a few years ago.
02:52:37.000I remember the Attorney General of California came out and said, we're going to ban anti-war protests, this was on the eve of the Gulf War, Gulf War II, because the war is to fight terrorists, and so if you protest the war, You're aiding terrorists.
02:54:51.000We are going to bring the New World Order down.
02:54:54.000This is their big gamble, their big move.
02:54:56.000Don't listen to the phony churches saying we can't affect change, that we shouldn't get involved, that we shouldn't be out there speaking out, that you're a devil if you don't worship Bush.
02:55:25.000You have to be ready to effect change.
02:55:28.000What will probably happen, and this continues, is the elite will pause their operations, buy a bunch of stuff on Bush for other crimes, remove them, and then kind of keep the ball rolling.