Alex Jones Show - September 25, 2006


20060925_Mon_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 56 minutes

Words per Minute

169.44444

Word Count

29,890

Sentence Count

2,314

Misogynist Sentences

26

Hate Speech Sentences

69


Summary

Join Alex Jones as he sits down with a man who claims to have been inside one of the most highly classified facilities in the United States Central Command on the day of 9/11. Dr. Laurel Jones is a professor who has spent years researching and spying on the government. He was a member of the elite counter-espionage unit known as the Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) and served 8 years in the U.S. Army. He claims he was inside the Central Command building on the morning of September 11th, 2001.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.
00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:10.000 You want answers?
00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:12.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:26.000 Welcome, my friends.
00:00:27.000 It is now the 25th day of September 2006.
00:00:33.000 And I believe my soul's on fire!
00:00:37.000 We are going to defeat the New World Order.
00:00:40.000 I am on fire with liberty.
00:00:42.000 I am on fire with the endless drive and desire to defeat the New World Order and to bring them to justice, and we are going to do it.
00:00:50.000 Brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us on this live Monday edition.
00:00:59.000 We have some huge guests lined up for you today.
00:01:02.000 One of them is a professor who has tracked and done research and even surveillance on the government shipping out U.S.
00:01:09.000 citizens and others via these torture flights.
00:01:14.000 And then of course coming up in the third hour, a poor lady who's being indicted, being charged for pulling down a Mexican flag that was flying in her town.
00:01:25.000 But of course, in about 30 minutes, the first time he'll be on radio, his name is Laurel Jones Chavez.
00:01:34.000 But he just goes by LJ when he was in the military, or Laurel Jones.
00:01:40.000 And Laurel's a great guy.
00:01:42.000 I had a chance to talk to him.
00:01:43.000 Some people are saying, you know, reserve judgment.
00:01:46.000 It could be disinfo.
00:01:49.000 And we should always reserve judgment.
00:01:53.000 But we now have his army documents.
00:02:01.000 He sent us his army documents.
00:02:03.000 And among the documentation he sent us is DD-13, his discharge, his honorable discharge, certificate of release or discharge from active duty.
00:02:15.000 And we have it now up on Infowars.com.
00:02:18.000 And a lot of you are saying, what on God's green creation are you talking about?
00:02:23.000 Well, he wrote a letter to the Cincinnati newspaper a few months ago when they wrote a 9-11 hit piece on the 9-11 Truth Movement.
00:02:33.000 He didn't intend for it to go big time.
00:02:35.000 It wasn't meant to be a big vetted piece, but then it got on some of the 9-11 group websites, namely 9-11 Veterans for Truth, And it went supernova over the weekend on the web after it got posted on Rents.com.
00:02:58.000 So I got on the horn and talked to Mr. Chavez.
00:03:05.000 Gotta like that name.
00:03:07.000 Joan Chavez.
00:03:09.000 And so many Joneses in this movement.
00:03:11.000 I guess there are a lot of Joneses though.
00:03:14.000 And he's going to be joining us from his office.
00:03:17.000 He's going to duck outside on his lunch hour and talk to us via cell phone.
00:03:22.000 Works at a local computer company.
00:03:25.000 And he worked inside the military.
00:03:28.000 In fact, I have his discharge document here reporting that he was inside of the different installations that he claims he was inside of working for.
00:03:43.000 And so when he joins us coming up in about 30 minutes, we'll go through all of it.
00:03:49.000 He says, quote, I was stationed at United States Central Command, which is in his discharge documents, which is located at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida.
00:03:58.000 I was on active duty when 9-11 happened.
00:04:00.000 In the days prior to the tragedies, we were involved in many exercises, some of these exercises including the scenarios of hijacked planes crashing into our Pentagon White House Sears Tower.
00:04:17.000 These drills, or exercises, as we called them, were classified top secret.
00:04:21.000 Having a top secret rated clearance, I was dumbfounded that they would ever push a training exercise above the level of secret.
00:04:30.000 Over my eight years in the Army, I have participated in many exercises around the world, none of which were ever classified over the secret level.
00:04:40.000 And he goes on, of course, drills are not classified.
00:04:42.000 This was not just classified, it was top secret.
00:04:45.000 So he wrote a great letter to the editor, but he's going to give you more coming up of what he witnessed that day inside Central Command.
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00:08:08.000 Alright, we've got a military officer, former member of the Army, who worked inside Central Command in Tampa, Florida on the morning of 9-11 and witnessed some incredible Florida on the morning of 9-11 and witnessed some incredible things he's alleging.
00:08:28.000 And I talked to him this morning.
00:08:32.000 A couple months ago, he wrote a letter to the editor at the Cincinnati, Ohio paper.
00:08:38.000 And you can read that up on InfoWars.com.
00:08:41.000 And it didn't get any attention for about two months, but it was put out there on the internet, and Veterans for 9-11 Truth picked up on it.
00:08:50.000 put it out and it went as we say supernova and exploded and a lot of people out of the gate said hey we haven't checked this out hey this hadn't been vetted yet and that's totally reasonable I mean I talked to Mr. Chavez today and he said look I was just writing a letter to the editor because I was mad two months ago and now this is blown up and gotten real big but he goes I'll be happy to send you any of my documents and I said well how about you just send me your discharge letter
00:09:19.000 And I do indeed have that here in front of me.
00:09:24.000 The copy we have on the web, of course, has a Social Security number erased, but everything else is there.
00:09:31.000 We appreciate his courage doing this.
00:09:33.000 And according to his, what is this, DD-13, according to this he did indeed, his last post was there at Central Command, and he's got You know, his special forces qualification courses, he's got all his training, his whole history, where he was deployed, different medals and ribbons he has.
00:09:55.000 And his honorable discharge.
00:09:58.000 His name is Laurel Jones Chavez.
00:10:02.000 Jones is a family name.
00:10:04.000 Another good old Jones Chavez out there.
00:10:07.000 Chavez, stirring up trouble.
00:10:11.000 Again, forgive me always pronouncing Chavez, Chavez.
00:10:14.000 I just, here in Texas, we call the road Manchaca, Manchac.
00:10:20.000 And we call the town of Palestine, Palestine.
00:10:25.000 So just, you gotta bear with me, ladies and gentlemen.
00:10:29.000 You just can't take it, take the hay seed out of me.
00:10:31.000 You can take the hay seed out of the country, but you can't take the Country out of the hayseed, as they say.
00:10:37.000 Another cliché.
00:10:39.000 I'm like the king of clichés.
00:10:43.000 I guess Orwell was right.
00:10:44.000 Our language has been so butchered, it's the only way I can communicate.
00:10:49.000 All right, continuing here with the news.
00:10:52.000 Let me just... He's coming up in about 20 minutes.
00:10:55.000 Let me just run through some of the other news we have here in front of us today.
00:11:00.000 China rolls out next generation of internet report.
00:11:03.000 This is AFP.
00:11:04.000 As soon as I saw the French News Agency's headline, I thought, as soon as I read this, it's going to say it's the government and universities shutting down the old web and forcing everyone onto a new web where you have no free speech and everything's surveilled.
00:11:18.000 And within three paragraphs, it said exactly that.
00:11:20.000 So, it's Internet, too.
00:11:23.000 And then they go on to admit that they're setting it up here in the U.S.
00:11:26.000 as well by 2010.
00:11:30.000 Total end of the internet.
00:11:31.000 So, enjoy the next few years we've got left.
00:11:35.000 Enjoy yourselves.
00:11:36.000 It continues here.
00:11:38.000 North American students trained for merger.
00:11:40.000 This is out of the London Sun.
00:11:42.000 Also have a big Canadian paper with almost the exact same headline.
00:11:49.000 Ten universities participate in model parliament in Mexico to simulate integration of the three nations.
00:11:59.000 And of course it came out in Canadian, British and Mexican papers.
00:12:02.000 Last week they had a huge secret meeting in Canada with the heads of our government, the Mexican and Canadian government, along with the heads of Chevron and Shell and the heads of the military and it was called integration for the North American Union.
00:12:18.000 They are officially merging.
00:12:21.000 The corporations are becoming the government and the average American literally doesn't know their head from a hole in the ground.
00:12:29.000 Basically wandering around mindlessly wanting to act cool and posing for their neighbors.
00:12:35.000 I'm sorry to have to say that.
00:12:37.000 I get a little bit of solace knowing that if this New World Order really comes into fruition, if it really is bore out, that at least these yuppies and scum suckers are going to have hellish lives.
00:12:47.000 At least when America goes down, you're not going to get away with it, you chicken neck filth!
00:12:54.000 Sorry.
00:12:56.000 I just, I do, I hate these, I hate them!
00:12:58.000 I hate the scum!
00:13:00.000 I hate people that don't get involved and who are in denial more than I hate the New World Order.
00:13:05.000 I respect the New World Order.
00:13:07.000 I don't like them, I'm disgusted by them, but at least they know they're evil and at least they know what they're doing.
00:13:12.000 There is no excuse for people standing around claiming they're patriotic with their cars festooned with all these desecrated plastic Chinese slave flags Telling me I'm not patriotic because I criticized this rotten government and denying what's happened to this country!
00:13:32.000 Good old Mel Gibson was in Austin, Texas yet again.
00:13:38.000 He decided to really debut.
00:13:41.000 The first screening he did of The Passion was here in Austin.
00:13:44.000 And again, I never listen to my messages.
00:13:46.000 I never pay attention.
00:13:47.000 I'm just overwhelmed.
00:13:48.000 I got a call last week saying, from the Alamo Draft House, such a great place.
00:13:53.000 Saying, hey, you might want to come, we got you a ticket to the Fantastic Fest, which is super hard to get into, because it's only, what, two screens, and, uh, Harry Knowles puts it on for making it cool news.
00:14:06.000 And I know Harry, he's a friend, and I got invited to this, but of course they can't say who's surprise guest are, and I didn't go.
00:14:11.000 Well, I should know, Mel Gibson was a guest before!
00:14:14.000 And he was a guest at this, and screened Apocalypto!
00:14:19.000 Friday, and I wasn't there!
00:14:21.000 But doesn't matter, I was, uh, I was in Fairfield under the stars out in the middle of nowhere in Northeast Texas visiting family and I did get to see a big shooting star.
00:14:33.000 So it's alright, I didn't get to see Mel Gibson.
00:14:37.000 I've got to listen to these hints.
00:14:38.000 I got a hint from him two years ago when he was here for The Passion.
00:14:42.000 Hey, you might want to come to the Numb-But-A-Thon.
00:14:47.000 Yes, that's what it's called.
00:14:48.000 24 hours of continual new movies.
00:14:51.000 And I just, you know, frankly it doesn't excite me to go meet Quentin Tarantino, who I have met at one of these.
00:14:58.000 It doesn't excite me to go meet, it excites me to meet people though who are fighting the New World Order like Mel Gibson or Rick Linklater.
00:15:05.000 And I just, I don't, and again this is not, this show is not about entertainment news.
00:15:09.000 The reason I'm talking about it is he came out, Mel Gibson came out, you can read his quotes at PrisonPlanet.com and he said, I'm against the Iraq War.
00:15:16.000 This shows how we're sacrificing our young men.
00:15:19.000 This is human sacrifice.
00:15:20.000 It's no different than what we saw with the Aztecs.
00:15:26.000 I've got his quotes right here.
00:15:27.000 In fact, you know what?
00:15:28.000 I'm going to do Mel Gibson justice.
00:15:29.000 I'm not going to paraphrase him.
00:15:30.000 I'm just going to read it.
00:15:31.000 Los Angeles Reuters.
00:15:33.000 Mel Gibson has returned to the spotlight to promote his upcoming movie, Apocalypto.
00:15:38.000 And to criticize the war in Iraq, according to The Hollywood Reporter, almost two months after he railed against Jews when he was arrested for driving drunk in Malibu, that whole thing is a setup, the actor made a surprise appearance Friday at Fantastic Fest, an event in Austin, Texas devoted to new science fiction fantasy films.
00:16:01.000 The trade paper said in its Monday edition, He presented a work-in-progress screening of his Mayan adventure tale, and this took questions, and then took questions.
00:16:10.000 About one-third of the full house gathered for the film gave him a standing ovation.
00:16:15.000 The film is scheduled for a December 8th release via Disney.
00:16:20.000 In describing its portrait of a civilization in decline, Gibson said the precursors to a civilization that's going under are the same time and time again, drawing parallels between the Mayan civilization on the brink of collapse and America's present situation.
00:16:38.000 Quote, what's human sacrifice, he asked, if not sending guys off to Iraq for no reason?
00:16:45.000 And there were more quotes, but those are not here in Reuters.
00:16:48.000 I've got to go to Ain't It Cool News.
00:16:50.000 Which was down this morning and find out what he really said.
00:16:52.000 I'm sure it's much more.
00:16:53.000 The media always cherry-picks.
00:16:56.000 But the good news is I have the Hollywood Reporter here in front of me and several other big publications.
00:17:01.000 Despite all the demonization of Gibson, Apocalypto is trending that when it's released it's going to be another blockbuster.
00:17:10.000 In a dead Mayan language, doing it his way as usual, criticizing a very evil Culture that the Mayan culture, which I'm always railing against I just again I salute Mel Gibson for doing original avant-garde art that has a good social message And if you don't like it, I don't care.
00:17:29.000 Okay We like Mel Gibson here and we're very proud of the work he's doing And we stand with Mel Gibson against all those that have tried to demonize him and set him up and the rest of it He's got courage that very few have.
00:17:45.000 Look what happened to Charlie Sheen after he went public.
00:17:48.000 Basically hung him out to dry, but it failed.
00:17:51.000 He's bigger than ever.
00:17:54.000 Rick Linklater went public on this broadcast about 9-11 being an inside job.
00:17:58.000 And exposed the fact that Marshall Law woke up Bruce Willis.
00:18:02.000 And then Bruce Willis, through neocon handlers, kind of scurried and took cover.
00:18:08.000 And said that his words were taken out of context, confirming that he did indeed say that.
00:18:12.000 You see, on the inside, they all know the truth.
00:18:16.000 But they're afraid.
00:18:17.000 They don't have the courage of Mel Gibson or Rick Linklater or Charlie Sheen.
00:18:24.000 Okay, I'm done talking about that.
00:18:27.000 I'm just glad to hear that Mel's bounced back from all of this.
00:18:34.000 But look at this article I've got in front of me.
00:18:36.000 North American students trained for merger.
00:18:40.000 I had another Canadian, this is out of England, London Sun.
00:18:43.000 I had a Canadian paper, but it's not in my stack here, where they got some information out of the secret meeting they had last week.
00:18:50.000 Imagine a secret meeting with the Canadian government, the U.S.
00:18:53.000 government, the Mexican government, openly setting up the North American Union with a bunch of CEOs at it.
00:19:00.000 That's your new freedom, ladies and gentlemen!
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00:19:05.000 And now British newspapers are reporting that the North American Union is being formed right now, and that the young are being brainwashed in the public schools.
00:19:15.000 Oh yeah, they're teaching in the public schools, they're teaching at the colleges, but when you or I talk about it, it's called a conspiracy theory.
00:19:23.000 North American students trained for merger.
00:19:25.000 Ten universities participate in model parliament in Mexico to simulate integration of the three nations.
00:19:31.000 John Troop, London's son, In another example of the way the three nations of North America are being drawn into a federation, or merger, students from ten universities in the U.S., Mexico, and Canada are participating annually in a simulated model parliament.
00:19:46.000 And it's under sponsorship of the Canadian-based North American Union Forum, or North American Forum.
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00:19:54.000 Oh yeah, it's big news in Europe, because they're like, oh look, American Union.
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00:24:00.000 We're about nine minutes away from our guest who was inside Central Command on the morning of 9-11.
00:24:11.000 And according to his report, saw some very interesting things.
00:24:15.000 hmmm.
00:24:17.000 That's coming up.
00:24:19.000 North American students trained for merger.
00:24:23.000 In another example of the way the three nations of North America are being drawn into a federation or merger, students from ten universities in the US, Mexico and Canada are participating annually in a simulated model parliament.
00:24:37.000 And of course we had We've had three joint congresses with Mexico and Canada in Mexico.
00:24:43.000 We forget about that.
00:24:44.000 Under the sponsorship, that's federal by the way, of the Canadian-based North American Forum on Integration, students met in Mexican Senate for five days in May in an event dubbed Trumverte, with organizers declaring a North American Parliament is born.
00:25:01.000 A similar event took place in Canadian Senate in 2005.
00:25:05.000 The intentions of the organization is clear.
00:25:08.000 The creation of a North American Parliament such as the one being simulated by these young people should be considered, explained Raymond Chertien, the president of the organization and the former Canadian ambassador to both Mexico and the U.S.
00:25:23.000 Participants discussed draft bills on trade corridors, immigration provisions of the North American Free Trade Agreement, and produced a daily newspaper called the Tri-Herald.
00:25:35.000 The Tri-Lat-Herald, excuse me.
00:25:40.000 Yeah.
00:25:42.000 And it goes on for page, after page, after page.
00:25:47.000 That's your new freedom!
00:25:50.000 They're openly taking the major highways, handing them over to international bodies and private corporations.
00:25:56.000 Private corporations meet with the Canadian, US, and Mexican government last week, secretly.
00:26:01.000 It comes out That leaders in all three governments are meeting, setting up the North American Union.
00:26:09.000 It was signed last March.
00:26:10.000 Another agreement was signed in December.
00:26:12.000 Now the official agreements are going through, and again, the average American is running around, acts and looks like a cow, and will walk up to you real stupidly, like it's Idiocracy, you know, Mike Judge's new movie, and just say, Hey!
00:26:28.000 Did you hear about Lacey Peterson, did you hear about what's going on with UT football?
00:26:37.000 And if you say, hey, the country's going down, they're merging us, then they're going to take all our liberties in the North American Union.
00:26:43.000 Huh?
00:26:44.000 Well, that... I mean, if they could even talk, they'll say, well, isn't that what should happen?
00:26:50.000 That's the future.
00:26:52.000 Yeah, but under this new future, you won't have any liberties or private property.
00:26:56.000 And then they'll just say, oh, that's not true.
00:27:02.000 Any way to live in denial, any way to refuse to face what's in front of your eyeballs... I mean, I'm hopping mad!
00:27:12.000 This is the United States!
00:27:14.000 I don't stick plastic slave flags on my car!
00:27:16.000 I actually love the country!
00:27:18.000 I actually defend the Republic!
00:27:21.000 And I'll tell you who's killing the country, it's all these phony conservatives and phony liberals who don't know any of the real issues and are all busy fighting with each other in their mindless left-right paradigm that's got them all corralled, totally controlled, neutralized!
00:27:36.000 Wake up!
00:27:39.000 I mean, we need to get some type of air-raid siren and play it in the background.
00:27:42.000 I mean, we need an ominous drumming alert sound, or maybe like the You know, a country in emergency going down, crises, life support disconnected.
00:27:58.000 Alert!
00:27:59.000 Alert!
00:28:00.000 Country is self-destructing.
00:28:02.000 Alert!
00:28:02.000 30 plus million illegal aliens have invaded, violently waving foreign flags, said they'll bring down U.S., covertly funded by U.S.
00:28:11.000 allied crime syndicates.
00:28:12.000 Alert!
00:28:13.000 Alert!
00:28:14.000 U.S.
00:28:14.000 debt bubble bigger than any debt bubble in history.
00:28:17.000 Alert!
00:28:18.000 Alert!
00:28:19.000 FEMA building concentration camps for American citizens.
00:28:22.000 Alert!
00:28:23.000 Alert!
00:28:23.000 Entire infrastructure being handed over to foreign companies.
00:28:27.000 Alert!
00:28:28.000 Alert!
00:28:29.000 I mean, this is what we're dealing with.
00:28:31.000 Government staging terror attacks as pretext for enslavement.
00:28:34.000 Alert!
00:28:35.000 Alert!
00:28:36.000 Critical!
00:28:36.000 Critical!
00:28:37.000 Country will self-destruct within two years, if not reversed.
00:28:41.000 Alert!
00:28:41.000 Alert!
00:28:42.000 Meanwhile... How about them UT football teamers?
00:28:46.000 I like some such.
00:28:51.000 Don't you talk bad about my president!
00:28:53.000 He's a conservative!
00:28:55.000 Oh, he is!
00:28:57.000 I like it!
00:28:59.000 I likesums!
00:29:00.000 Alright, you can tell I'm out of control.
00:29:02.000 I just, I cannot stand the people that will not wake up.
00:29:06.000 But they're all pacified by the Neil Bortzes and the Glenn Becks and the Limbaughs.
00:29:11.000 All up there to pose as conservatives.
00:29:14.000 All up there to keep conservatives in their little corral and to make little giggling jokes about the left all day and to pose and to push national Sales taxes, and amnesty programs, and just lying to you Judas goats, plunging huge double-edged daggers into your back, and you smile at them.
00:29:32.000 Oh, kiss me on the lips when you stab me, Limbaugh.
00:29:35.000 Kiss me on the lips.
00:29:36.000 Oh, I love you.
00:29:37.000 I'm getting angrier and angrier.
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00:33:36.000 Last week I first saw this letter to the editor of the Cincinnati Inquirer by a gentleman who was reportedly saying that he had been in the Army, had last stationed at Central Command, and then on 9-11 he saw some very suspicious things happen, and he saw suspicious things happen in the lead up to 9-11.
00:34:01.000 And we have had a chance off-air to talk to 9-11 whistleblower, Sgt.
00:34:08.000 Laro Chavez.
00:34:10.000 And he goes by LJ because his full name is Laro Jones Chavez.
00:34:15.000 His mom's another troublemaker, Jones.
00:34:19.000 So we're honored to have LJ with us.
00:34:22.000 And what happened is his letter to the editor got out on the web.
00:34:25.000 And then it got posted up on the Veterans for 9-11 Truth and went supernova late last week.
00:34:33.000 And so this morning, I did some more research and was able to get in contact with Mr. Chavez and with LJ.
00:34:43.000 And I said, well, there's some controversy.
00:34:45.000 No one's been able to prove your disinfo.
00:34:48.000 They're just simply saying, well, we don't know who this guy is.
00:34:51.000 He hasn't confirmed who he is.
00:34:52.000 All we have is this lengthy letter to the editor.
00:34:55.000 there to the Cincinnati Inquirer.
00:34:57.000 Well, since then, I did, I guess, what others haven't done.
00:35:00.000 I asked for his form, and his DD-214, and I've got his DD-214 automated NOV-88.
00:35:12.000 88 here in front of me.
00:35:14.000 Certificate of release or discharge from active duty.
00:35:17.000 He got an honorable discharge and it's got his special forces qualification training and all his other training here and that he did indeed, his last post was at Central Command in Tampa, Florida.
00:35:30.000 And so, here to discuss what he witnessed, and now we are here confirming, and we have his document, and this goes a long way towards documenting that it did indeed work in CENTCOM, and again, the letter to the editor just had his first and last name, his full name, is Laro Jones Chavez, and he goes by LJ, thank you for coming on with us, and thank you for your courage.
00:35:57.000 I was talking to you this morning, and you said, I hope they don't kill me now.
00:36:02.000 Well, it's always a pleasure to be on your show, Alex, and yeah, you know the trouble-making Joneses.
00:36:08.000 We've got to be put down one way or the other.
00:36:12.000 I'm just glad to be here.
00:36:13.000 Well, it's good to have you here with us, sir.
00:36:16.000 Now, you gave me a pretty good explanation and description of, you got mad by a hit piece against 9-11 Truth in the local paper in Ohio, you got out of the military in 2003, you witnessed some things, you wrote this letter to the editor, and then you also put it out on the web, break down what happened, You told me you didn't mean this letter to be your full, vetted explanation.
00:36:39.000 Now you're ready to do that here.
00:36:40.000 You're right, right, exactly.
00:36:42.000 And actually, I got out in 2002.
00:36:44.000 What had happened, and a lot of people don't know, and first I want to thank everybody for questioning me because that's, first and foremost, that's our job, is to question all the information and the misinformation that comes out.
00:36:54.000 So, I literally walked in today and just had hundreds of emails from people thanking me and You know, blogs where people try to discredit me, and, you know, this guy's real.
00:37:03.000 You know, some guy said he'd use his own rear end if, you know, I was real, which would be funny to watch.
00:37:08.000 But, yeah, real briefly, you know, I'm a member, I'm actually the moderator for the Ohio Humans Against the New World Order.
00:37:15.000 It's a MySpace group.
00:37:16.000 We have 9-11 Truth Meetings in the area here, and this is something that happened, you know, a few months back, and, you know, my friend that I work with, real close to me, I won't reveal his last name, first name, James, but very good friend of mine, he was like, hey, look at this.
00:37:28.000 Look at this letter that they wrote in the Cincy Post, and like, you know, it's like, 1 in 3 believe in 9-11 conspiracy, and so, you know, I'm reading this, and it was just a total debunk, you know, to make...
00:37:36.000 You know, people like us who know that there's clearly something not right.
00:37:40.000 That's right.
00:37:40.000 Cincinnati Post.
00:37:41.000 I misstated.
00:37:42.000 Sure.
00:37:43.000 No, it's fine.
00:37:43.000 There is a Cincinnati Enquirer.
00:37:44.000 They're not as bad as the Post.
00:37:45.000 I don't know.
00:37:46.000 I really don't read the local newspaper because... I must have read a blog that got it wrong which paper it was in.
00:37:50.000 Go ahead.
00:37:51.000 Right, right.
00:37:51.000 So, you know, he's like, you know, he wrote a letter to the editor, you know, and Mr. White, you know, saying that, you know, you need to do more journalism research, blah, blah, blah.
00:37:58.000 And I would like to support him.
00:38:00.000 You know, we were just kind of like going to protest the paper.
00:38:02.000 So I wrote this letter.
00:38:03.000 And you know, and I spoke to James, you know, and my other friends, uh, you know, prior to this about, you know, some of the things I've seen in my military career, and I wrote this letter, and I couldn't in good conscience, like, flanderize Mr. White without, like, putting, like, you know, factual stuff in there.
00:38:18.000 So, you know, I gave him, like, all the tools.
00:38:19.000 Like, I... I'm in no way in a position to tell people, like, this is the official story.
00:38:24.000 Believe me.
00:38:24.000 No, no, no.
00:38:24.000 I want to give people the information to go look for themselves and formulate a logical decision, you know, with all the evidence.
00:38:30.000 And that's what I was trying to do with Mr. White, you know.
00:38:33.000 And of course there was speculation on the web that, you know, I confirmed that Cheney gave the orders for NORAD to turn down, which, you know, that was my opinion, and I went into the blog and was like, look, That was a rant that I wrote to the editor.
00:38:45.000 This wasn't my intention.
00:38:46.000 This wasn't my affidavit to come out and be a whistleblower.
00:38:49.000 I just kind of got thrown into it.
00:38:49.000 But we know Cheney, two months before, in June, did take control away from the Generals.
00:38:54.000 That is correct.
00:38:54.000 Absolutely.
00:38:54.000 The shoot-down power they'd always had.
00:38:56.000 We know that Minetta was there and the aid kept saying, 50 miles, 20 miles, 10 miles out.
00:39:01.000 Does the order still stand?
00:39:02.000 And we know that Cheney did order a stand-down.
00:39:05.000 And I was talking to you this morning.
00:39:07.000 You said when you were in CENTCOM that In fact, now let's quit talking about the controversy.
00:39:12.000 Let's go into who you are, what you did in the military, where you were in CENTCOM, what you witnessed.
00:39:17.000 Okay.
00:39:18.000 I was formerly Sergeant Chavez.
00:39:20.000 I worked in the J6, which people who don't know McDill Air Force Base, it's a joint command.
00:39:25.000 Central Command is responsible.
00:39:26.000 Area of Operation, or AOR, is the entire Middle East staging environment.
00:39:33.000 So we've got, you know, Air Force, you know, the base is an Air Force base.
00:39:37.000 The sink, Tommy Frank's Central Command was an Army general, four-star.
00:39:41.000 You know, we've got Marines, we've got Navy, we've got Air Force, very high-ranking, you know, like some of the lowest people that I did work for were, you know, colonels, like lieutenant colonels, you know, with very few majors, very few captains, lots of majors, generals, major generals, lieutenant general, full star, sergeant major, Yeah, we've got, we've got CENTCOM, we've got NORTHCOM, there's only, what, four comms, and they run the whole plan?
00:40:03.000 Right, right.
00:40:04.000 They do run the whole plan.
00:40:04.000 Is it four comms, or going from memory?
00:40:07.000 Right, yeah, I think there is, and, uh, and SOUTHCOM is the other one, and they're down in Miami.
00:40:12.000 And every command has their area of operation, and central commands happen to be the Middle East, you know, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, you know, the UAE, you know, Qatar, you know, we've got bases over in Doha.
00:40:23.000 The hot zone, the gap.
00:40:25.000 The hot zone.
00:40:25.000 We participate in exercises, one of which is called Bright Star.
00:40:29.000 It's where we go over to Egypt and, you know, we play war games there.
00:40:33.000 But what I did for the command is I worked in the Joint Six Department, J6, what's called the Automation Department.
00:40:39.000 Basically, we were in charge of all the computer systems.
00:40:41.000 All the network backbone, all the user PCs, so it was like the big computer department for the entire command.
00:40:47.000 So I ran a team on the help desk network side.
00:40:51.000 I had six soldiers that worked for me.
00:40:53.000 And, you know, basically what we do is we had a ticketing system.
00:40:55.000 You know, these colonels and stuff would have problems with their computers, and, you know, we'd go around and fix their PCs.
00:40:59.000 And I was really... I've got letters of recommendation from General Franks.
00:41:03.000 I've got coins from General Franks.
00:41:04.000 I helped set General Franks up on his eBay account to sell pottery.
00:41:07.000 A lot of people don't know that.
00:41:09.000 I was the only soldier allowed in the command to go to his house and work on his personal computers.
00:41:14.000 I also was the only one allowed to work on his work computer.
00:41:17.000 And that's what you do now.
00:41:19.000 You work at a computer company right now.
00:41:21.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:41:21.000 I work at a software company.
00:41:22.000 I'm their information security manager.
00:41:24.000 I make sure that hackers don't get in and steal our credit card numbers.
00:41:27.000 You know, I train users to be security conscious.
00:41:30.000 And when you wrote this letter to the editor, you put your name, you put your work number, you went totally public and I commend you.
00:41:36.000 You sound very credible to me.
00:41:38.000 Well, you know, and now that people have just called, I probably had 50 calls today on my phone, you know, I had like 10 messages when I walked in the door this morning, and you know, and that's great, and I love talking to people, and I love giving them, you know, because I...
00:41:51.000 I was a little overwhelmed to be honest.
00:41:55.000 Let's talk about because of time constraints.
00:41:57.000 Now you've put your foot in it.
00:41:58.000 You've gone public.
00:41:59.000 You've stepped across the line here at the Alamo.
00:42:02.000 You've thrown your lot in with us.
00:42:04.000 A lot of courage.
00:42:05.000 Tell us what you witnessed on the morning of 9-11 in Centcom.
00:42:09.000 We all know that the President put Cheney in charge of NORAD.
00:42:15.000 In the SCIF, you know, I go back to that in my letter, it's the Security Compartmentalized Information Facility.
00:42:21.000 It's a bunker that's at the very base of CENTCOM.
00:42:23.000 It's like in the very middle.
00:42:24.000 It's the most protected, it's like the treasure room.
00:42:26.000 And in there is where all the PSYOPS guys sit, Psychological Operations, all the Military Intelligence.
00:42:31.000 You go in there, you can watch live feeds, satellite feeds, like over Iraq.
00:42:35.000 I mean, you know, and you have to have a top-secret clearance to even badge in the door.
00:42:38.000 So I had a top-secret gamma clearance.
00:42:40.000 And I want you to be careful about what you say, because you signed a national security letter.
00:42:44.000 Just be careful.
00:42:45.000 Okay, I don't remember signing any national security letters, but I think I was out prior to that.
00:42:50.000 Well, I imagine you probably don't, but... Probably so, yeah, I'll be careful.
00:42:53.000 Just don't say too much that's classified, but go ahead.
00:42:56.000 Okay, so there's a lot of things going on in this command bunker, and I go in there a lot, or I've had to go in there a lot to fix PCs, and, you know, there are different levels of classifications of networks, like, you know, the military, the Army doesn't just have, like, one network, they've got, like, a ring of networks that As you go inner, they become more classified and more classified.
00:43:15.000 Well, inside the SCIF, everything is top secret or higher.
00:43:19.000 And there are other classifications beyond top secret that I won't talk about.
00:43:23.000 But I'm in there, and they've got Air Force guys in charge of the weather, senior weather officers that monitor the weather all over the world, making sure exercises and plane flight patterns are OK because the weather increments and there's Guys who monitor the aerospace, the grid, that monitor the actual live feed of what airplanes are where, what jets are where, what exercises they're participating in.
00:43:47.000 When the Cheney thing came out, people were questioning that.
00:43:50.000 We were like, why would you do that?
00:43:51.000 Because the military has certain procedures set in place for a reason.
00:43:54.000 Anybody who's ever done time in the military, everything is by the books, by the numbers.
00:43:58.000 If Scenario A happens, you look up the little book for Scenario A. There's default positions.
00:44:02.000 There's default A to Z.
00:44:04.000 Right, correct, and you follow the procedures, you know, something happens, this, you know, uh, object A happens, you do, you execute, you know, plan B, and these are the eight things you do, well...
00:44:14.000 You know, so that's prior to 9-11.
00:44:15.000 So the morning before, we're involved in exercises, and one of them was support for Vigilant Guard, and the other one was for Bright Star, which I spoke about earlier, for Egypt.
00:44:24.000 And in your letter to the editor, you talk about the days before drills of flying hijacked jets into the Pentagon, into the White House, into the Sears Tower and other targets, which is now declassified.
00:44:34.000 It's come out in the news.
00:44:35.000 That is information I was not supposed to see.
00:44:38.000 I was in the skiff working on a CyHop's commander's computer, and next to his PC was a document, a top-secret document, that was open.
00:44:47.000 And, you know, I mean, honestly, you know, his neglect was my ally.
00:44:51.000 So, as I'm sitting there working on his computer, I'm waiting for some patents to download, and I look over and I'm reading this document.
00:44:56.000 And it's the op order for the exercise that they're participating in, and it's top secret.
00:44:59.000 I'm like, I didn't know this exercise was classified top secret.
00:45:03.000 That's ridiculous.
00:45:04.000 That makes no sense because I've never heard of exercises that are large scale, that are secret.
00:45:08.000 Exactly.
00:45:09.000 We have to keep it open.
00:45:11.000 We have to keep it public and open.
00:45:12.000 You don't want it public to the point where we can elicit problems, but you have to let certain people know that the military is running exercises, especially in high population areas.
00:45:22.000 So you've seen a lot of other exercises, and very few were secret, much less top secret.
00:45:27.000 Had you ever seen an exercise that was top secret?
00:45:30.000 No, never have before, and that's not saying they don't exist.
00:45:32.000 I've never seen one, and I've participated probably in more than 35 or 40 different exercises in my years in the Army.
00:45:40.000 So I'm reading this document, and it's giving proposed situations for scenarios for this war game.
00:45:47.000 The scenarios include, like, you know, a plane hijack.
00:45:49.000 They were all, you know, most of them were hijack planes.
00:45:51.000 I thought there was the one, you know, like a car bomb, you know, trying to blow up something.
00:45:55.000 But one of them was a hijack airplane crash into a power, a nuclear power plant in California.
00:45:59.000 That was in there, yeah.
00:46:04.000 The Pentagon, obviously, the White House, our building, was one of the targets as well.
00:46:08.000 And I guess, you know, because of the conflict of interest between The command in our area of operation in the Middle East, you know, this is the command that heads up operations in the Middle East.
00:46:17.000 If we take them out, then, you know, they'll be kind of lost for, you know, for at least a few months trying to figure out who's going to take over command of these people, you know.
00:46:23.000 And so, the day before, you know, they were ramping up.
00:46:26.000 They were putting big, giant concrete pylons all around the building.
00:46:29.000 They were putting machine guns up posts on the roof.
00:46:32.000 I had friends, you know, before you could even get in the building, like, you had to verify your bags.
00:46:35.000 Like, you know, we had military police, like, With dogs.
00:46:38.000 By the way, Jeb Bush declared martial law for the first and only time in Florida three days before.
00:46:43.000 That's correct.
00:46:44.000 Three days before, yes.
00:46:46.000 And that was, you know, after 9-11, I was stuck on the base for like six days.
00:46:49.000 I couldn't even leave.
00:46:51.000 They just kept us there.
00:46:52.000 September 9th.
00:46:53.000 That's Associated Press, boys and girls.
00:46:56.000 They planned to hit the White House and a bunch of other targets.
00:47:00.000 Something went wrong.
00:47:01.000 And if it would have gone off like they planned, by the time Bush left that school, he would have been total dictator.
00:47:06.000 We would have had massive decapitation of Congress.
00:47:10.000 Can you imagine the martial law we would have been under if they had hit the Capitol?
00:47:14.000 Well, you know, it would have been horrible, but, you know, I think that, you know, maybe that's where we'll have to go for people to actually, you know, ride the... Well, we know what happened.
00:47:21.000 The generals didn't follow orders and ordered two Sidewinders into Flight 93, thank God.
00:47:26.000 That is correct.
00:47:27.000 Then they had to concoct the ridiculous story about Let's Roll.
00:47:30.000 Right, exactly.
00:47:31.000 You know, and during 9-11, you know, we're in the bunker and we're watching the aerospace grid and, you know, I can see the enemy blips, you know, that they're proposing.
00:47:39.000 And the thing is, is that Whenever you're doing exercises, you have to pipe that aerospace grid to the air traffic controllers of the airports, all the airports in that area, so they know there's a military exercise going on and there's proposed planes, like, you know, put on the grid just as, you know, fake, bogus targets.
00:47:56.000 And that's now, in the tapes, they keep saying, is this part of the exercise?
00:47:59.000 I've never seen so much real world during an exercise.
00:48:01.000 They didn't tell them that day, did they?
00:48:03.000 No, I don't think they did.
00:48:04.000 And, you know, that was the whole thing is, you know, if you watch in the video footage, you've got the air traffic control guys, is this real world or exercise?
00:48:10.000 You know, because people don't know, and that was the whole point of this, isn't it?
00:48:13.000 As I reflect back, I look, I'm like, well, that's genius!
00:48:16.000 If you want to crash planes into a building, I mean, and you've got the aerospace grid at your, like, beckon and, you know, call, then you put a bunch of blips on it, so nobody knows which one's real or which one's fake, except the key individuals who are supposed to know.
00:48:26.000 And then, you know, nobody has any idea of, like, well, is that a fake plane that's flying over there?
00:48:30.000 Because it's colored red, so a red plane, you know, equivalates to a fake blip, so...
00:48:35.000 I mean, all you have to do is have somebody in charge of those computer systems that put the blips on the screen, and then you can do whatever you want.
00:48:40.000 Now, let's get to Cheney.
00:48:41.000 Let's get to Cheney, and then there's a lot of other key areas we need to talk about here, but you're there in the bunker on 9-11.
00:48:48.000 Describe what happens.
00:48:49.000 You told me off-air that everyone's wondering why the shoot-down orders haven't been given.
00:48:53.000 You heard key discussions.
00:48:55.000 Give us that in detail.
00:48:56.000 Okay, so I didn't get to see the Tower One hit.
00:48:59.000 Okay, as soon as, you know, I was in there talking, you know, with individuals.
00:49:02.000 I was tired.
00:49:03.000 You know, I've been there since four in the morning.
00:49:05.000 I mean, they're talking to my Army Corps of Engineers buddy, I won't give his name, and we're chit-chatting, and then all of a sudden, everybody starts hustling and bustling.
00:49:12.000 It looked like NASA, when Apollo 13's about to crash, everybody's running around, and then they put up on the big screen, CNN, and here's this tower that's on fire, and we're like, what the heck's going on?
00:49:23.000 And then we see the other plane come in and hit it, and then at that point, everybody's just standing up.
00:49:28.000 And we're just watching.
00:49:31.000 Same thing as everybody else, we're all shocked and awed.
00:49:33.000 I can't believe this happened.
00:49:35.000 You know, I'm kind of thinking in the back of my mind, I'm like, well, that's funny, because we just had an exercise that, you know, proposed the same, you know, situation happening, you know, what are the odds?
00:49:42.000 But I was more concerned about, wow, this is like a home front attack, like, you know, wow, the people actually got the nerve to do something to us, you know?
00:49:48.000 Like, these guys are crazy, like, they're going to get their butts kicked now, you know, because I had no idea at the time, and, you know, I'm standing there, and the Air Force had commanders in charge of, you know, in contact, direct contact with NORAD, and so we're, you know, the plane hit the, you know, whatever hit the Pentagon, and then We're like, wondering, like, what are they scrambling jets?
00:50:05.000 You know, we're asking, like, there's, there's, you know, eight or nine people, you know, and these are not just, this is not just a sight of me and one of my soldiers, and then there's, like, lieutenant colonels and colonels, and they're, they're asking, you know, this lieutenant colonel in charge of the Air Force, uh, uh, set there, you know, why isn't NORAD scrambling jets?
00:50:21.000 And he was like, well, we received an order to stand down.
00:50:24.000 And that just perplexed everybody.
00:50:25.000 Like, you know, they were totally... Do you remember the name of that colonel over the Air Force Division in CENTCOM?
00:50:32.000 Do not remember his name.
00:50:32.000 No, I do not.
00:50:34.000 We need to have you look at photos of those commanders.
00:50:37.000 We need to find out who that is.
00:50:39.000 He needs to be brought in under oath by a grand jury or by Congress.
00:50:43.000 We already know Cheney did it.
00:50:45.000 We have known for that as testimony.
00:50:47.000 We've got him 98%.
00:50:47.000 We need that 2% to have a total lock on these traitors.
00:50:52.000 Stay there, sir.
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00:54:07.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:54:10.000 Well, I saw a lot of hand-wringing and people running around, scurrying, saying, is this real?
00:54:18.000 Is this a hoax?
00:54:18.000 And we know that they planned this info in the past, in the 9-11 Truth Movement, but, you know, it's normally Some type of ridiculous, you know, holograms hit the towers or something along those lines to try to discredit us.
00:54:32.000 This doesn't fit the MO of Disinfo.
00:54:35.000 He wrote a letter to the editor.
00:54:36.000 Months later, it got a lot of attention.
00:54:39.000 People said, oh, he's not real.
00:54:40.000 He's not in the military.
00:54:41.000 We've confirmed he was in the military.
00:54:44.000 And he sounds credible to me.
00:54:46.000 We're here vetting it.
00:54:47.000 We're here discussing it.
00:54:48.000 It fits in with what we already know.
00:54:50.000 So you're in CENTCOM and everybody's running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
00:54:54.000 And can you remember the specific designation of that Full Bird Air Force Colonel and what area he was over at CENTCOM?
00:55:05.000 No, I can't, and I've tried to remember his name.
00:55:08.000 He was relatively in the skiff by himself in a back stack that basically had Landline communications back and forth, communication lines back and forth with NORAD.
00:55:19.000 So there are hundreds of people in there?
00:55:22.000 Yeah, there's probably 75 or 80 people in the SCIF, easily.
00:55:27.000 Possibly a hundred.
00:55:28.000 But clearly he was in command because they were going... He was in command of, I guess, the Air Force and NORAD interface because you saw colonels going to him.
00:55:38.000 Right, yeah.
00:55:39.000 He was the information interface that they designated.
00:55:42.000 He was the NORAD representative for CENTCOM.
00:55:45.000 I don't know.
00:55:45.000 He had other titles.
00:55:46.000 He had another job, I'm sure, too, but that was part of his duty, was to pass on information, you know, from NORAD and SpaceCom, you know, stuff like that.
00:55:55.000 So, you know, that's where they went.
00:55:57.000 They were like, what is going on?
00:55:58.000 Okay, but remember, remember back, from memory, tell us exactly what you heard.
00:56:05.000 I mean, were there two colonels in front of you?
00:56:07.000 Three?
00:56:08.000 What were they saying?
00:56:09.000 They were saying, you know, why aren't planes being scrambled?
00:56:11.000 What did you hear?
00:56:13.000 Well, I asked, you know, first, me and my Lieutenant General friend, we kind of scurry over, everybody's kind of, you know, he comes out of his office and he's standing there and, you know, everybody knows what's supposed to happen when planes fly over no-fly zones or they come into our aerospace unauthorized.
00:56:33.000 You scramble jets.
00:56:34.000 I mean, I was a sergeant and I knew that.
00:56:36.000 I mean, it was just, you know, it's the op order.
00:56:38.000 I mean, that's just what they do.
00:56:39.000 So, you know, these colonels, you know, these guys who've been to, you know, the Army War College and all the stuff, they know that, that that's procedure.
00:56:46.000 So, you know, they're questioning this other colonel, and I'm standing there, and he's like, well, you know, all I can confirm is that we've received a stand-down order.
00:56:53.000 He goes, well, no, I received a stand-down order.
00:56:55.000 And that was all he said, you know, and then, of course, they ran off like hustle bustle, and, you know, I kind of was talking to my friend, you know, and then that's About that time is when, you know, the first tower started to come down, or the second tower rather, you know, the one that was hit second came down first.
00:57:08.000 And we know there's anti-aircraft Stinger missiles and even more high-powered, uh, they have the, what's the name of the mounted, uh, high-powered Gatling gun, uh, that towards ships?
00:57:21.000 Yeah, it's like a, it's a mini-gun.
00:57:23.000 Is it Aegis?
00:57:24.000 He added Aegis, that's correct.
00:57:26.000 I know there's Aegis.
00:57:27.000 I know there was Aegis put in in the mid-90s after that guy flew the plane into the White House, that's Cessna.
00:57:34.000 I know they put Aegis up all over D.C.
00:57:36.000 I know Aegis was at the Pentagon.
00:57:38.000 I've seen that in press reports.
00:57:40.000 So they had Aegis, they had Stingers, they had a bunch of other anti-aircraft missiles all over D.C.
00:57:46.000 I've been in D.C.
00:57:47.000 and seen them on top of the White House back in the 80's walking around with missile launchers.
00:57:52.000 I saw George Bush Sr.
00:57:54.000 give a speech in, what was it, in 1988 in Dallas.
00:57:57.000 My dad took me to it.
00:57:58.000 It was at the fairgrounds.
00:58:00.000 They had Stinger missiles up on the roof.
00:58:02.000 My dad said, look at those Stinger missiles.
00:58:04.000 So, we know there was a stand down.
00:58:06.000 The aid is in there.
00:58:07.000 And he's saying, does the order still stand to the Vice President?
00:58:10.000 You know, 50 miles, 30 miles, 20 miles, 10 miles.
00:58:13.000 And he says, of course it still stands.
00:58:14.000 We know he was in control.
00:58:16.000 We know there was a stand down.
00:58:18.000 We know they didn't use the missiles, much less the aircraft.
00:58:20.000 And then, stay there, sir.
00:58:22.000 I want to keep you for two more segments.
00:58:23.000 We'll let you go.
00:58:24.000 I know you're at work.
00:58:25.000 This is so important.
00:58:26.000 I want to walk through anything else you saw.
00:58:28.000 Other important tidbits that you witnessed.
00:58:32.000 Lero Jones Chavez goes by LJ, is our guest.
00:58:36.000 I'm Alex Jones.
00:58:37.000 Be sure and check out InfoWars.com.
00:58:41.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.
00:58:48.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.
00:59:01.000 Government cover-ups.
00:59:02.000 You want answers?
00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.
00:59:06.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:16.000 Well, he has a lot of courage.
00:59:20.000 L.J.
00:59:21.000 Chavez.
00:59:23.000 Lero Jones Chavez is our guest.
00:59:25.000 He was a sergeant in the Army.
00:59:27.000 His last assignment until 2002 was at Central Command in Florida.
00:59:33.000 He was inside the command bunker on the morning of 9-11.
00:59:37.000 We have his DD Form 214 here in front of us, honorably discharged.
00:59:44.000 And we are honored to have him on air with us.
00:59:47.000 He just finished up getting into the generals and colonels, scrabbling around, wondering why F-16s aren't up, why they haven't shot down any of the aircraft, wondering why a stand down is going on, and being told, all we know is, we've been ordered to stand down. all we know is, we've been ordered to stand down.
01:00:05.000 This is what he witnessed.
01:00:07.000 This all started when he got mad at a letter, I guess posted by the paper itself, about 9/11 truth in the Cincinnati Post.
01:00:15.000 He wrote a letter, months later it got big on the web, and here he is doing his first radio interview with us.
01:00:20.000 Other facets of this, other areas in your letter to the editor you get into, go through those for us please, sir.
01:00:29.000 Okay, I know I talk a lot about, you know, I made friends with the Lieutenant General who used to be the Army Corps of Engineers commander, and He used to teach the class from, you know, after Spiegel and him.
01:00:40.000 He was like, you know, I used to give classes on controlled demolitions because when you go into hostile areas, it's, you know, the military uses, you know, demolitions to bring down bridges, to bring down buildings.
01:00:50.000 They're in the way of, you know, to make land, you know, airstrips for airplanes.
01:00:53.000 I mean, there's all kinds of things.
01:00:55.000 And, you know, we even do like civil engineering, like where we bring down buildings, you know, on the base to erect new buildings.
01:01:01.000 So, you know, as the towers are falling, He's standing there, and he's like, he's telling me, he's like, Chavez, this isn't right.
01:01:07.000 And I'm like, what are you talking about, sir?
01:01:08.000 He's like, buildings don't fall like that.
01:01:10.000 Because when they're struck by missiles, or they're struck by, you know, gunfire, or you know, it's possible to like, you know, blow off the top of a building.
01:01:18.000 Yeah, there have been battles in Vietnam, and in Europe, and all over, where for days, the thousands of heavy guns are just pounding, you know, pounding 20-story buildings, and they don't fall.
01:01:32.000 I've seen buildings overseas, like, not even big buildings, Alex, like two stories, with holes as big as cars in them from, like, tank rounds and mortar rounds, and they're still there.
01:01:41.000 And they're not even steel constructed, they're made out of, like, stucco.
01:01:44.000 You know, and these towers are falling, and I'm saying, what are you talking about?
01:01:49.000 He goes, this is a perfectly done controlled demolition.
01:01:52.000 So you're in CITCOM, can you tell us the name of this officer?
01:01:55.000 No, I will not call his name.
01:01:59.000 I don't have permission from him, and I don't want to destroy his reputation, and he's still in those days.
01:02:05.000 Well, I mean, I had family friends on who's a structural degree engineer who was in the World Financial Center, less than 100 yards from Tower 1, South Tower, and he came on the air after the collapse that morning and said, this is a beautiful controlled demolition.
01:02:20.000 Yeah, and when Building 7 came down, that's what he said.
01:02:24.000 He was like, wow, that was beautiful.
01:02:27.000 You know, I'm like, I'm in horror.
01:02:28.000 I'm like, this building is falling and you're like saying this is something great and I never really realized, you know, I guess the naivety of my mind at the time was, you know, so stuck to, you know, the same way that, you know, most soldiers are.
01:02:39.000 You know, we're there to do a job.
01:02:40.000 We're there to defend our country.
01:02:43.000 Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
01:02:45.000 But you're not saying he was involved.
01:02:47.000 He was saying it was a beautiful demolition.
01:02:49.000 Oh yeah, definitely.
01:02:50.000 He had no idea that anything was going on, but when he saw them fall, he was definitely... Well, I've talked to people that work at big demolition companies, and of course they won't come on air, but they've said that 7 is a perfect job.
01:03:01.000 It is a perfect job.
01:03:02.000 When they plant bombs for months, it's hard to get them to fall into a pile as big as their original footprint.
01:03:08.000 Right.
01:03:09.000 And my whole deal with this, Alex, is that, you know, you can't expect the American population, and we're not idiots, like, you can't expect us to believe that you went into a building on fire, and in a matter of hours, you know, pulled off the most perfectly executed controlled demolition probably in our civilization, you know, with a building on fire.
01:03:26.000 I mean, that alone should make everybody go.
01:03:28.000 Then they try to spin it and say pull it means pull the firefighters, but it turns out they never fought fire in the building and didn't pull firefighters.
01:03:38.000 But they can't have their cake and eat it, too.
01:03:40.000 Stay there, sir.
01:03:41.000 Do you have time to do one final segment?
01:03:43.000 Absolutely.
01:03:44.000 Okay.
01:03:44.000 Our guest, LJ, is with us.
01:03:48.000 I'm Alex Jones, InfoWars.com.
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01:09:15.000 Because it took us out of the favorites and out of the top 100.
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01:09:27.000 No, no, no, no, no!
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01:09:34.000 200,000.
01:09:34.000 It's already climbed back up again.
01:09:36.000 See, it reached exponential growth curve, where we're getting millions of viewers of TerrorStorm every few days, whereas it took a month and a half to get up to 2 million.
01:09:44.000 Now they knock us out and it still gets up to 2 million in a couple days.
01:09:48.000 We've already reached exponential, unless they totally take TerrorStorm down completely.
01:09:52.000 So everybody, just start uploading copies of TerrorStorm.
01:09:55.000 Just continue lavish everything.
01:09:57.000 They're not going to stop us.
01:10:00.000 See, I noticed that Loose Change, I've been watching them, and I get so excited as they climb the charts, but I noticed they didn't wipe them out.
01:10:07.000 They didn't knock out their ratings.
01:10:09.000 They didn't knock out their viewers.
01:10:11.000 They didn't, no, they did it to Terror Storm, and we hope it's an accident, but Google keeps doing stuff like this, and I don't think it's an accident.
01:10:18.000 Okay, I'm going to shut up.
01:10:19.000 We've only got a few minutes left with our guest.
01:10:22.000 And we're so honored to have him with us, Laurel Jones Chavez, or LJ, a sergeant working in CENTCOM, and I have his honorable discharge here in front of me.
01:10:36.000 Sir, other facets, other key points that need to be made about what you saw that day in the bunker, and then recapping why you decided to go public.
01:10:46.000 Well, I think that I've, you know, I think I've pretty much given what I know, what I saw, you know, that the fact that Regardless of what happened, you know, we can go back and forth all day about what brought the towers down, what hit the Pentagon, you know, the fact of the matter is that the government had prior knowledge.
01:11:02.000 And that's what, you know, really motivated me to, like, you know, get out of the military because, you know, the government that is controlling, you know, the military, and then you've got that, you know, individual saying that the soldiers are nothing but pawns.
01:11:13.000 And what makes me sick is that my brothers, my military brothers, are needlessly dying in a war that's just It's a paradox.
01:11:21.000 I mean, you can't have a war with no predefined, you know, or certain enemy.
01:11:25.000 It doesn't work that way.
01:11:26.000 You know, you've got to like, okay, you know, this is this little sect of people right over in this country, and that's a war, like, you know, these rebels, like Somalia or something like that.
01:11:34.000 But in a war on terror, then anybody who has any kind of bad thoughts towards the government, you know, can be considered a terrorist.
01:11:40.000 And now with the Patriot Act, they can come and get you and, you know, black bag you like in V for Vendetta, and, you know, who knows what the possibilities are.
01:11:46.000 But, you know, my point is that No matter how horrible the truth is, no matter how horrible it is to look upon it, the people deserve to know the truth.
01:11:57.000 Absolutely.
01:11:57.000 I want to go through a few quotes here from your letter to the editor.
01:12:01.000 You say to the editor, quote, I spent eight months in combat watching my brothers die.
01:12:05.000 That was in Afghanistan.
01:12:08.000 I killed in the name of freedom, and to this day my brothers are still being killed for this illusionary war we call the War on Terror.
01:12:15.000 Can you comment on that?
01:12:17.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:12:17.000 I was deployed to Afghanistan for eight months, about two weeks after 9-11 happened.
01:12:22.000 I was there in support of United States SOCOM, which if everybody's played the game of SOCOM, they're actually a real entity that is located on the McDill Air Force Base.
01:12:34.000 And I provided them with communications for the special ops teams.
01:12:37.000 We flew into Kabul Airport.
01:12:39.000 We were actually under fire as we flew in.
01:12:42.000 And, uh, you know, I thought that, you know, I was, thought I was, you know, going to, you know, bin Laden, and that was clearly not, not the objective of that war.
01:12:50.000 And I still don't know what the objective is, you know, other than to, you know, subliminally condemn this war.
01:12:54.000 Can you say $400 billion in, uh, opium a year coming out of there?
01:12:57.000 Exactly.
01:12:58.000 Or, you know, the pipeline, you know, a lot of people are like, what pipeline?
01:13:02.000 I had to pull roving guards to make sure that nobody blew up that pipeline.
01:13:05.000 That was where our billions of dollars to the war went for people to pull patrols.
01:13:10.000 And then you've got soldiers over there that are using live, depleted uranium rounds in their tanks and in all the mortars and in all the howitzers.
01:13:17.000 And DU is just horrible.
01:13:20.000 Not only does it kill people, and that's fine, but it's technically against the Geneva Convention because it provides an after-effect of You know, it's a radioactive material, and you've got, you know, soldiers breathing this in in the air.
01:13:32.000 What percentage of your... I mean, because as you said, you know Tommy Franks, you know all these other generals.
01:13:38.000 I mean, obviously you probably haven't talked to him about 9-11, but other people from privates up to generals that you've talked to about 9-11, the war on terror, what percentage know it's an inside job, or what percentage have you had a chance to bring it up to?
01:13:50.000 I haven't had an ability to bring up too many people.
01:13:53.000 I've got some reserve and guard friends that I'm pretty close to here.
01:13:56.000 They're skeptical, but the thing is that they're not told enough.
01:14:01.000 They're not given enough detail.
01:14:02.000 They're given 2% of the 100% they need to know to do their job.
01:14:06.000 They're like, we don't need to be concerned about why we're shooting this round down the range.
01:14:10.000 You just need to make sure that the round gets in the thing and it gets pulled when we tell you to pull it.
01:14:13.000 So they don't really even know.
01:14:15.000 They're just segregated out to do a job.
01:14:18.000 You know, and it's just, it's not fair, you know, it's not fair for these people, you know, and I see these, support our troops, support our troops all over, bumper stickers everywhere!
01:14:25.000 If people want to support our troops, we'll bring them home so that they don't have to needlessly die in a war for money and oil.
01:14:30.000 I mean, that's supporting the troops.
01:14:32.000 Not saying, you know, hey, good job for getting your legs blown off because, you know, you were over in Iraq trying to, you know, establish democracy in the name of America.
01:14:39.000 Well, we had the unanimous National Intelligence Assessment out last week that the White House suppressed since April and tried to block its release.
01:14:47.000 Unanimous 16 U.S.
01:14:48.000 intelligence spy agencies saying clearly that Iraq has escalated the jihadists And has actually created a real terror threat for the first time that isn't really state-sponsored manufactured.
01:15:01.000 And that's what P2OG, that's what the Pentagon actually wanted all along.
01:15:06.000 People say Bush is screwing up.
01:15:08.000 He's not screwing up.
01:15:09.000 The stated plan was to break Iraq in three pieces and stimulate military responses as a pretext to widen the war.
01:15:17.000 And you know, they should be angry.
01:15:17.000 Absolutely.
01:15:18.000 Those people in Lebanon and Iraq and Iran, they should be mad at us because, you know, We're not represented.
01:15:24.000 You know, the people of America aren't represented the correct way.
01:15:27.000 I mean, our government gives us the image of, like, you know, we're this, like, you know, like, allopathic people that, you know, want to come over and take over your society and, you know, make you, you know, a democracy, and that's clearly just not the case.
01:15:37.000 No, they come in and they put in Perez Musharraf there in Pakistan, a brutal dictator.
01:15:42.000 I mean, they put dictators in everywhere and fund them and control them.
01:15:47.000 Well, in closing, you said to the paper, the Cincinnati Post, you said, we all knew Then, we all realized that this was not some group of unorganized cave dwellers from Afghanistan orchestrating a perfect hit on American soil.
01:16:03.000 It was impossible, and I guess there you were speaking of Building 7, and as you said you were standing there with an officer as Building 7 fell, and he said it was a beautiful controlled demolition.
01:16:11.000 Can you comment on that?
01:16:13.000 Yeah, you know, and I spoke about that earlier, yeah, you know, my Lieutenant General friend was, you know, demolitions, he taught, you know, controlled demolitions for, you know, Army Corps of Engineers to bring down bridges and stuff, and, you know, he just, he knew at the moment, and, you know, I think we all knew, we just refused to believe, and that's what took me so long to talk about this, is because I, you know, I thought I was the only one individual that knew something I wasn't supposed to know, and I had no idea, and so I met my friends, you know, that I work with, and the friends in the community that are like,
01:16:41.000 You know, show me this entire movement of people who are like challenging, you know, the decision, you know, of how 9-11 happened and the official story is...
01:16:51.000 There's nothing more than a big why.
01:16:53.000 Until then, I realized that maybe I need to say something.
01:16:56.000 Maybe now is the time for me to say something because before, I think your why would have been passed.
01:17:00.000 So basically, our research about NORAD standing down, Cheney being in control, that meshed with what you witnessed as an eyewitness inside the secret command bunker of Central Command there in Miami on 9-11?
01:17:12.000 In Tampa, yes, absolutely.
01:17:16.000 No problem.
01:17:18.000 I think that everybody needs to know the truth.
01:17:22.000 We're a bunch of, you know, we're great American, we're great society.
01:17:25.000 I think we have the potential to be very wonderful and very ethical, but, you know, we have to, we have to grow beyond this point here and we've got to get the people who are, you know, the bad guys, you know, out of leadership positions to where we can put people who are good, ethical people in positions of power where we can grow a society as ethically as we need be.
01:17:41.000 You know, if we want to help Iran, we shouldn't go try to blow them up.
01:17:43.000 We should send 30 scientists over to help them establish a nuclear power plant to provide power to their people, you know, and not try to hinder them from becoming a world power.
01:17:52.000 Yeah, why doesn't Iran want to attack Germany, or Russia, or China, or Japan, or South Africa, or Venezuela?
01:18:00.000 Those countries are all friends, you know, and you want the American public to believe that Osama bin Laden came over here.
01:18:07.000 and blew up, you know, orchestrated this whole great attack against the most powerful nation in the world and then, you know, Osama didn't take our rights away with the Patriot Act.
01:18:15.000 You know, Osama didn't bring down Building 7.
01:18:17.000 Osama couldn't order NORAD to stand down.
01:18:20.000 Osama couldn't order public officials not to fly out of the White House.
01:18:23.000 Osama couldn't have the 44,000, 18,000 British troops already massed north of Afghanistan with three carriers waiting with the launch orders on his desk two days before.
01:18:32.000 Osama couldn't declare martial law in Florida.
01:18:34.000 Sir, I commend you for joining us.
01:18:37.000 I want to talk to you again later this week when you have more time.
01:18:40.000 LJ, God bless you, and I'm going to call you tonight at home.
01:18:43.000 I want to talk to you some more, okay?
01:18:44.000 Sure.
01:18:44.000 Thank you, Alex.
01:18:45.000 Pleasure.
01:18:46.000 God bless you for your courage, sir.
01:18:47.000 Will, your story really looks credible to me.
01:18:50.000 We'll continue to check it out.
01:18:51.000 We'll be right back with our next guest.
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01:23:06.000 guest and then I'm going to get back into the incredible revelations that you just heard from the last guest that we had on who we've confirmed did work in CENTCOM, Central Command on 9-11 there in Tampa Well, And then I also want to get into war in Iraq regarded as incubator for terror, actually creating more real terror.
01:23:29.000 We'll break that down, and of course that means real resistance.
01:23:32.000 Any resistance is called terror.
01:23:35.000 Also, compromise on treatment of terror suspects assailed.
01:23:38.000 Critics include military defense lawyers who say it's worse than the system in place.
01:23:42.000 That's right.
01:23:42.000 Bush's, quote, compromise is worse than what he's even currently doing.
01:23:47.000 But it spawned as a Bush defeat, victory for McCain and the Democrats.
01:23:52.000 This is smoke and mirrors, folks.
01:23:54.000 And what it is, is secret arrest of American citizens.
01:23:57.000 Secret trials, secret execution, torture.
01:24:01.000 14,000 people disappeared in these black holes.
01:24:04.000 This is the New America and so it dovetails with our guest who's got a new book that just came out, Trevor Paglen, Tortured Taxi on the Trail of the CIA's Rendition Flights and he's gone out on a lot of research and investigations and Trevor Paglen is an expert on clandestine military installations Maybe he can tell us about the Houston Chronicle and the FEMA camps.
01:24:27.000 He leads expeditions to the secret bases of American West and is author of two-volume study on secret bases, secret wars.
01:24:35.000 Oh, we've got to have this guy on another time longer.
01:24:38.000 Trevor Paglen is an artist, writer, and experimental geographer working out of the Department of Geography at the University of California, Berkeley as a researcher.
01:24:45.000 His work involves deliberately blurring the lines between social science, contemporary art, and a host of even more obscure disciplines.
01:24:52.000 And he's exposed the California prison system, the CIA's practice of extraordinary rendition, that's kidnapping, and he joins us now.
01:25:01.000 Sir, thank you for joining us.
01:25:03.000 Thanks for having me on the show.
01:25:05.000 You bet.
01:25:06.000 Out of the gates, what do you think of this, quote, compromise that codifies the end of the Bill of Rights?
01:25:12.000 Secret arrest, secret tribunals, secret snatch and grabbing.
01:25:17.000 I mean, this is incredible.
01:25:19.000 Yeah, I think it's really dangerous because what it is effectively doing is creating a legal framework for all of these extremely nasty things that have been going on for the last couple of years.
01:25:32.000 It seems to ensure that this sort of thing will continue.
01:25:36.000 That's right.
01:25:36.000 Bush first said... Exactly.
01:25:38.000 Bush first said, and had his councils and memos say, he was the law above the law, we can torture kids, whatever.
01:25:44.000 Now the Supreme Court said, no, you've got to get congressional approval, and so now he's actually trying to codify it in law.
01:25:50.000 Go ahead.
01:25:51.000 Yeah, exactly, exactly.
01:25:53.000 So, this is a really dangerous moment because I think a lot of us would like to think that the last couple of years were a historical anomaly, but this legislation seems to make it so that this will become a part of just what we regularly do.
01:26:11.000 It's being institutionalized in the bedrock right now.
01:26:15.000 That's correct.
01:26:17.000 And you watch Democrats are going to love this when they get in office.
01:26:19.000 This is part of a Downhill slump into tyranny.
01:26:23.000 You know, I want to get into the torture taxis and the Red Sox planes being used, but I was reading your bio.
01:26:30.000 You get into secret government, shadow government, shadow bases.
01:26:34.000 Just out of the blue here, do you have any info on the Houston Chronicle admitting the construction of these emergency FEMA centers for political dissidents?
01:26:43.000 No, I know very little about that sort of thing.
01:26:45.000 I mostly just look at weapons programs and that sort of thing.
01:26:51.000 It's relatively academic, just trying to understand how security clearances work, this sort of thing.
01:26:59.000 Give us your take on the secret government itself.
01:27:01.000 How big is it?
01:27:03.000 The secret government itself?
01:27:05.000 I actually don't study this continuity of government and that sort of thing.
01:27:09.000 I specifically look at classified military spending and what that goes towards.
01:27:16.000 Which is a large but still small slice in the aggregate.
01:27:20.000 Um, yeah.
01:27:21.000 It's hard to know.
01:27:22.000 I mean, I specifically studied this slice of the defense budget.
01:27:25.000 It's about $30 billion.
01:27:26.000 Yeah.
01:27:28.000 Amazing.
01:27:29.000 When did you first get interested and start researching the secret rendition flights?
01:27:34.000 Um, the rendition flights were... I've been keeping files on them for several years now, and the reason for that is that from studying this other military stuff, this military secrecy thing, a lot of people who look at that kind of traced the outlines of that world by monitoring aircraft that, you know, file flight plans to different military bases, do kind of unusual things.
01:28:01.000 And some people in that community started noticing that there's all these planes they hadn't seen before that were acting really suspicious.
01:28:08.000 And so the tail number started showing up on listservs and that sort of thing.
01:28:12.000 I started keeping files on them.
01:28:14.000 And then as stories from former prisoners came out, these stories about these secret prisons and torturing and that sort of thing, what you could actually do was correlate the flight logs of these aircraft We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
01:28:28.000 And thanks to your work and others' work, now the government denied this for four years.
01:28:32.000 Now they're having to admit they run secret gulags all over Eastern Europe, Central Asia and the Middle East.
01:28:38.000 Stay with us, sir.
01:28:39.000 I want to come back and get into your new book.
01:28:41.000 We're on the march.
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01:33:05.000 We're about to go back to our guest and talk about the secret rendition torture flights where they take them to countries where they're openly boiled in oil.
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01:33:15.000 The White House memos say they can torture small children by crushing them with pliers sexually in front of their parents.
01:33:21.000 This is your government.
01:33:23.000 Can you imagine the stuff they're doing in secret when they publicly release memos saying they can crush children with pliers in front of their parents?
01:33:33.000 This is who's running your country.
01:33:34.000 This is the type of scum that we're talking about, ladies and gentlemen.
01:33:39.000 By the way, I got comments on Bill Clinton, too, running around saying, you know, he tried to protect us from Bin Laden.
01:33:45.000 He followed the globalist code to protect that asset.
01:33:48.000 He signed W1999.
01:33:51.000 Bush reissued it.
01:33:52.000 He protected AQ Khan Laboratories in Pakistan.
01:33:55.000 When Sudan and Pakistan and others wanted to arrest Bin Laden, he said no.
01:33:59.000 He's just as guilty as George Bush!
01:34:02.000 They own both parties!
01:34:03.000 Alright, I'm ranting.
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01:35:17.000 No one in history has ever written stuff down like that in government.
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01:37:39.000 Now, I want my guests to know I'm not normally like this, but I am just... I'm really fired up right now.
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01:37:48.000 Trevor Paglen, the new book, Torture Taxi, on the trail of the CIA's rendition flights.
01:37:53.000 How did you guys discover the flights?
01:37:55.000 How did you guys get this news out now, going from obscure information to being widely understood?
01:38:01.000 Well, like I said before, it began for us with noticing that these aircraft that we didn't know anything about were doing some really unusual things.
01:38:12.000 Flying around the United States, making numerous trips to places like Guantanamo Bay, places like Libya, places like Kabul, and this really caught our attention.
01:38:23.000 And we began to learn that these flights would often correlate to former prisoners accounts of being held in secret detention centers and that sort of thing.
01:38:34.000 So these two different stories began coming together and that's when we really realized that that we knew something about this.
01:38:42.000 We had files on it that we could research this.
01:38:45.000 And we began by trying to really reverse engineer these flights and these aircraft, getting things like registration records from the different airplanes, getting things like the flight records, and just started to slowly piece it together and try to build a composite picture from it.
01:39:00.000 Well, we've had reporters and listeners of this show in Canada, this has been confirmed in the paper up there, grabbed, taken to secret facilities, and they threatened to cut their arms off until one guy had a nervous breakdown just for covering Bilderberg Group.
01:39:18.000 Back in June, I was detained myself for 15 hours and interrogated and screamed at and cussed at and they did threaten these other Canadians with being put on planes and I think folks should take that threat serious.
01:39:30.000 We now have citizens all over the world but this one famous case where the big Canadian Board of Inquiry, the government, the Parliament admits That this guy was totally innocent, no connection to anything, and they took him overseas, tortured him for years, and then finally released him.
01:39:44.000 I guess he's lucky they didn't kill him like some.
01:39:47.000 Break down that case for us.
01:39:48.000 Yeah, there's a guy named Maher Arar.
01:39:52.000 His extended family is from Tunisia, I believe.
01:39:55.000 He had gone over there for a vacation.
01:39:58.000 On his way back, he went through JFK on his way back to Canada.
01:40:01.000 He was detained there by the FBI.
01:40:04.000 They held him in a hotel room by the airport for a couple of weeks.
01:40:09.000 And finally they decided they were going to send him away.
01:40:12.000 So they shipped him off to Syria.
01:40:15.000 And they had the Syrians torture him for about a year.
01:40:18.000 He was held in a cell that was about the size of a coffin.
01:40:22.000 He called it a grave.
01:40:23.000 And this went on for a year.
01:40:26.000 Then the Syrians decided they didn't have anything on him.
01:40:29.000 Send him back to Canada and... By the way, this is Syria, we're supposed to go nuke, okay?
01:40:35.000 But really, they're bootlicking allies of the New World Order.
01:40:39.000 Yeah, that's one of these ironies of this stuff.
01:40:43.000 So he sent him to Syria, then finally went back to Canada.
01:40:48.000 There was a big investigation internally in Canada about what happened here.
01:40:52.000 You know, was this guy a threat?
01:40:55.000 The other day they issued a report saying he was absolutely innocent.
01:40:58.000 He was not a threat to anybody at all.
01:41:02.000 And why did this happen?
01:41:05.000 And he had zero connections to any terrorist.
01:41:08.000 That's what the Canadian government found.
01:41:12.000 But he got over a year of torture.
01:41:14.000 Now doesn't that sound like freedom?
01:41:17.000 Holding a Canadian citizen at JFK for two weeks at a hotel room.
01:41:23.000 And folks, if I ever disappear, okay, and we don't know where Alex went, he just ran off and left his family, that is not true.
01:41:30.000 I'll be in some hole, being tortured by a bunch of scum, and who they're recruiting is federal prison guards that have lost their jobs, that's come out in the news.
01:41:40.000 They actually go off their files and recruit these people, abusers, people that like it.
01:41:45.000 Or I'll be in a shallow grave, that's a lot better than being in one of these cages.
01:41:49.000 They used to put our troops in those in Vietnam, these little cages the size of your body.
01:41:55.000 Imagine, I'm doing this a little... By the way, sir, you say you've researched this.
01:41:58.000 Have you ever seen John Yoo's memo where he says they can torture children?
01:42:02.000 Yeah, well John Yoo is one of the co-authors of this whole series of torture memos.
01:42:08.000 He's a bucket of maggots!
01:42:11.000 Well, that comment, he said in a debate that the president could authorize Um, to have a suspected terrorist child's testicles crushed if the president thought that that would yield useful information.
01:42:28.000 He said that there was no law that could prevent the president from doing something like that.
01:42:32.000 And, of course, he wasn't born here.
01:42:33.000 He's not a real American.
01:42:34.000 He's a piece of filth.
01:42:36.000 No, I mean, he really is a piece of filth.
01:42:37.000 They're all filth.
01:42:38.000 Listen, folks, you're supposed to get mad about the president's office writing memos saying they can sexually torture children!
01:42:46.000 I want that to burn into your heads!
01:42:47.000 We're all in danger!
01:42:49.000 None of us are safe until these criminals are in prison!
01:42:53.000 Doesn't that freak you out, sir?
01:42:54.000 I mean, that they write stuff like this?
01:42:57.000 It's ghastly.
01:42:57.000 It's unbelievable.
01:42:58.000 I mean... I mean, yeah.
01:43:02.000 Completely.
01:43:04.000 I mean, listen, they're doing stuff like Jeffrey Dahmer did, folks.
01:43:09.000 Since when is the President having his counsel write memos that authorize Jeffrey Dahmer stuff?
01:43:20.000 Well, Bush now is in trouble, so he's trying to codify it.
01:43:24.000 Instead, he's just going and getting it authorized by law.
01:43:27.000 It has passed the committee.
01:43:29.000 It's now in the full Senate.
01:43:30.000 What do you think of that?
01:43:32.000 I think that's terrifying.
01:43:33.000 I think that's terrifying.
01:43:34.000 This question is really about who we are as a country and where we're going.
01:43:39.000 And it's really deciding, you know, all of the terrible things that have happened over the last couple of years that we've been responsible for.
01:43:48.000 Abu Ghraib, disappearing people, torturing people.
01:43:52.000 Is that what the future of this country is going to look like?
01:43:54.000 Or is that going to be some weird historical anomaly?
01:43:58.000 This legislation makes it seem like that's going to be the future.
01:44:04.000 Well, another thing, a year and a half ago, my private CIA contractor hired, former federal jail guard, tortured a guy to death, and then it started coming out in the news, it leaked!
01:44:18.000 And so the military decided to burn him, like they always do.
01:44:21.000 Look at Abu Ghraib, same thing.
01:44:23.000 And when he spoke out and released documents that he was authorized to do it, they charged him under Patriot Act and gagged him.
01:44:30.000 And last time I heard, he disappeared into the system himself.
01:44:33.000 So, I just want the torturers to know.
01:44:36.000 That you'll be flushed down the toilet too.
01:44:38.000 Just like last week I had one of the heads of the IRA terror operations on, who was really British intelligence, and he told you British intelligence ran the IRA and carried out the bombings as a pretext for control.
01:44:51.000 And then they tried to kill most of the agents who'd been doing this for a decade to get rid of the evidence, and they later found out that that's a routine operating procedure.
01:45:00.000 After you do the torture and after you blow stuff up, your government is going to kill you too.
01:45:05.000 You idiots!
01:45:06.000 Yes.
01:45:06.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.
01:45:07.000 So I know whoever tortures me to death someday down the road, and it may end up happening, folks.
01:45:11.000 There's probably a good chance of it.
01:45:13.000 I don't have to worry.
01:45:14.000 While you're torturing me, I know they're going to kill you, too, you dumb idiot!
01:45:17.000 I'm sorry, sir, go ahead.
01:45:19.000 Well, that's one of the questions.
01:45:21.000 We've seen in the last couple of weeks that people who are CIA operatives have been advised to take out private insurance against the You know, so that if they're held accountable for some of this stuff in the future, they would have private insurance because the CIA wouldn't cover some of the things that they've done.
01:45:40.000 So that's really remarkable.
01:45:42.000 Also, there's been several European investigations into all of this stuff, and different European countries have the names of people who have actually conducted some of these kidnappings.
01:45:54.000 In Italy, they've issued arrest warrants for over 22 CIA operatives.
01:45:59.000 These people can't go to Italy.
01:46:01.000 There's arrest warrants out for them in Europe.
01:46:04.000 Can't take their family to Rome.
01:46:06.000 They'll be arrested.
01:46:08.000 That's right.
01:46:09.000 Interpol's got an arrest warrant out for them.
01:46:12.000 Yeah.
01:46:14.000 And in that case, too, they were grabbing hundreds of people off the streets of Italy.
01:46:19.000 Well, they grabbed one guy named Abu Omar.
01:46:22.000 They had planned operations against other people in Italy.
01:46:26.000 Yeah, in the report I saw it said they grabbed hundreds.
01:46:28.000 Maybe that was Europe together, it was hundreds.
01:46:32.000 Yeah, maybe throughout the whole thing.
01:46:34.000 But in Italy, the one case that's really well documented is a guy named Abu Omar who was abducted from Milan by a group of CIA operatives who were cooperating with somebody from the Italian Secret Service.
01:46:50.000 But what about the case where our military opened fire on the Italian Secret Service trying to get people out of the Baghdad airport, and it turned out that was some type of staged attempted hit?
01:47:00.000 That's a really interesting case that I don't fully understand.
01:47:05.000 Well, from my inside sources, that's what triggered Italian intelligence and Secret Service to get mad and go up to the CIA, is they believe that our government was trying to kill their people.
01:47:16.000 I've heard rumors like that, too, but I haven't looked into it.
01:47:19.000 Well, we know that's what triggered these arrest warrants.
01:47:21.000 I mean, we know that within a month of that happening, these arrest warrants started getting issued.
01:47:26.000 Yeah, I mean, there are all kinds of coincidences like that that seem to suggest a connection.
01:47:31.000 It's amazing.
01:47:33.000 Is there more rendition, more kidnapping going on from your research now?
01:47:37.000 The press reported Bush announced last week he's grabbed 14,000-plus people.
01:47:41.000 Do you think that number is accurate, or is it higher?
01:47:44.000 It's hard to say.
01:47:46.000 When you really look at this rendition program closely, it starts to become really unclear what the military is doing, what is the CIA doing, what counts as a rendition, if the Department of Defense moved somebody from Iraq to Afghanistan, is that a rendition?
01:48:04.000 Who knows?
01:48:05.000 So the definitions start to break down when you look at the overall way That the United States is treating terror suspects and prisoners in this so-called war on terror?
01:48:16.000 Well, 14,000 plus, in the President's own words, is a gulag archipelago.
01:48:21.000 I mean, that is a huge, huge system.
01:48:26.000 And I want everybody to remember, the CIA chief over Afghan operations went public a year after we'd already seen it in the press that it had leaked.
01:48:34.000 That they had upwards of $44,000, it was from $5,000 to $40,000 plus head bonuses for quote, Taliban.
01:48:43.000 And so actual Taliban would go up and get hill people who'd never been out of their village, literal goat farmers, and would take them down and tell them that they were going to have a goat roast, and load them on C-130s of waiting U.S.
01:48:56.000 military, and take them for torture.
01:48:59.000 And our government didn't care?
01:49:00.000 And by the way, the CIA guy went public and said, it's true, they were totally innocent and they tortured them, they did all kinds of stuff to people as young as 14, people as old as 85.
01:49:10.000 Did you see that?
01:49:11.000 There's all kinds of stories of bounty hunters running across Afghanistan and fingering people, taking them in.
01:49:18.000 These guys would end up at Guantanamo Bay and there would be some farmer or something like that that somebody turned in for a little bit of money.
01:49:26.000 Yeah, well the CIA chief over that area said that they would have goat roast.
01:49:31.000 You know, they'd say, come down for a little village, and they'd grab like all the men in the village and load them on C-130s and fly them out for a lot of fun!
01:49:40.000 Yeah.
01:49:41.000 Sorry, go ahead.
01:49:42.000 There's all kinds of stories like that.
01:49:43.000 We gotta train our Marines how to be Nazis!
01:49:46.000 Doesn't matter if you're innocent, we just need some slaves, come on!
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01:52:56.000 Well, I really appreciate our guest, Trevor Paglen, coming on.
01:53:07.000 I appreciate his courage writing this book, Portrait Taxi on the Trail of the CIA's Rendition Flights.
01:53:15.000 In your book you get into where these airlines, the people running these airlines go back, links to Air America, and I don't mean the liberal radio network folks, and can you break that down for us please?
01:53:29.000 Do we have Trevor?
01:53:31.000 Okay, he just cut out just now.
01:53:34.000 Let's go ahead and get Trevor back on because I want him to briefly comment on that.
01:53:38.000 We're going to let him go.
01:53:40.000 Then I'm going to start the third hour And I'm going to go through all the news.
01:53:45.000 North American Union news, secret arrest, secret torture news, this new national intelligence assessment about actually creating terrorists, which was the plan all along.
01:53:56.000 The government hates having to create these guys themselves.
01:54:00.000 So it's good for them to actually create some real ones.
01:54:03.000 So we'll get into that.
01:54:05.000 There's just so much we're going to cover.
01:54:06.000 And then 30 minutes into the next hour, a lady who got arrested and is being charged and faces many years in prison for hate crime for pulling down a Mexican flag.
01:54:14.000 I'm not kidding.
01:54:15.000 Here in the United States.
01:54:16.000 Trevor, we accidentally lost you.
01:54:17.000 I wanted to, here in the last segment with you, get into... You cover the connections to Air America.
01:54:25.000 You cover the Red Sox, the private jets.
01:54:29.000 Can you tell us about that place, sir?
01:54:31.000 Yeah, well it turns out that one of the main kind of pseudo companies that flies these aircraft is a company called Aero Contractors out of rural North Carolina, Smithfield, North Carolina.
01:54:43.000 Aero Contractors was set up by a guy named Jim Ryan in the late 1970s.
01:54:48.000 And Jim Ryan was a very famous Air America pilot.
01:54:52.000 And when Congress forced the CIA to sell off all Air America's assets in the 1970s, the CIA got this guy Jim Ryan to set up another airplane company that would pretty much exclusively contract with the CIA.
01:55:07.000 So that's one of the companies that are flying most of these things right now.
01:55:12.000 Now the CIA has also contracted with a guy named Philip Morse, who's one of the co-owners of the Boston Red Sox.
01:55:20.000 And they've used one of the Boston Red Sox's corporate Gulfstream jets to actually carry out some of these renditions.
01:55:30.000 Isn't that cute?
01:55:33.000 It's bizarre.
01:55:36.000 It's amazing.
01:55:37.000 So they're using private contractors.
01:55:40.000 Really is a way to spread the wealth around and make profit for their cronies off of these black world deeds and at the same time it creates a whole other layer of secrecy to have private groups involved.
01:55:52.000 That's correct.
01:55:53.000 That's correct.
01:55:54.000 Absolutely.
01:55:55.000 Well obviously they claim privatization would save us money.
01:55:57.000 It's actually wasted a lot of money and it's allowing private institutions to come in and get governmental power.
01:56:03.000 Can you give us your view on that statement?
01:56:06.000 Well I think they do it mostly because It insulates them a little bit.
01:56:12.000 They become a layer removed from what's going on.
01:56:17.000 They can also get around a lot of governmental oversight by doing that.
01:56:21.000 They can get the money, send the contract out to somebody else, and then if something happens, say, oh, well, it wasn't us.
01:56:29.000 It was this contractor that did it.
01:56:32.000 Absolutely.
01:56:33.000 Trevor Paglen, author of Torture Taxi on the Trail of the CIA's Reditioned Flights.
01:56:39.000 How do folks get a copy of your new book?
01:56:41.000 You can get it on Amazon.com.
01:56:43.000 Torture Taxi.
01:56:44.000 Torture Taxi.
01:56:46.000 I tell you, it's just unbelievable and I commend you for being out there and exposing it.
01:56:51.000 Any other websites or organizations you're a part of you'd like to promote?
01:56:56.000 I think that's it for now.
01:56:57.000 I think that this is the main issue that's been on my mind, the main issue that's in the news.
01:57:02.000 I mean, sure, that people really need to know about right now.
01:57:04.000 You think you may ever end up on a torture taxi?
01:57:06.000 I hope not.
01:57:08.000 All right, well, Mr. Paglen, thanks for coming on with us.
01:57:12.000 Thank you so much.
01:57:13.000 Bye-bye.
01:57:13.000 God bless.
01:57:13.000 All right, there goes Trevor Paglen, expert on clandestine military installations.
01:57:20.000 He leads expeditions to the secret bases of America's West and is author of two volumes that study secret bases and secret wars.
01:57:27.000 We'll be back with the third hour.
01:57:28.000 I'm going straight into the news, in through and beyond.
01:57:33.000 This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNLive.com or call toll free 877-300-7645.
01:57:38.000 More than... Big Brother.
01:57:38.000 Mainstream media.
01:57:39.000 Government cover-ups.
01:57:43.000 More than...
01:57:45.000 Big Brother.
01:57:50.000 Mainstream media.
01:57:52.000 Government cover-ups.
01:57:54.000 You want answers?
01:57:55.000 Well, so does he.
01:57:57.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:08.000 Well, it was amazing, to say the least.
01:58:12.000 We will take a few of your calls.
01:58:14.000 In this hour, early in this hour, in fact, back in the first hour, I had an amazing individual on with us, L.J.
01:58:25.000 Chavez.
01:58:26.000 His full name is Lauro Jones Chavez.
01:58:31.000 And we have got his discharge, honorable discharge form here.
01:58:35.000 His DD Form 214.
01:58:39.000 And we've blacked out his social security number, but it's posted up on InfoWars.com.
01:58:44.000 He did indeed work in CENTCOM.
01:58:46.000 We did indeed with his full name find references to him online.
01:58:49.000 And he was there on the morning of 9-11 and says that he witnessed a top officer saying that they got orders to stand down.
01:58:57.000 They were saying, why isn't NORAD doing something?
01:59:00.000 Where's the Air Force?
01:59:01.000 Well, we've been told to stand down.
01:59:03.000 And we already had that information, clearly, from Dick Cheney and the aide and Norman Mineta's testimony, Transportation Secretary.
01:59:10.000 But that was a huge interview and so important And we're still vetting it to doubly certify that it's accurate.
01:59:17.000 But before everybody ran off the deep end saying that it was disinfo, we decided to actually go do some research and vet it.
01:59:23.000 And that process is still ongoing, but it meshes with exactly what we've heard from other people inside NORAD on and off the record.
01:59:31.000 So you're welcome to comment on that at 1-800-259-9231.
01:59:33.000 at 1-800-259-9231, 1-800-259-9231.
01:59:39.000 Some other big developments, Major British papers are reporting that the North American Union is being formed right now.
01:59:50.000 And Canadian papers are reporting it.
01:59:52.000 A few U.S.
01:59:52.000 papers are reporting it.
01:59:54.000 Lou Dobbs has reported it, but still the general public does not even know this is going on.
01:59:58.000 This is officially happening right now.
02:00:00.000 We have more of those reports up on the website InfoWars.com and PrisonPlan.com for you.
02:00:08.000 On the subject of torture, Compromise on Treatment of Terrorist Suspects Assailed, L.A.
02:00:14.000 Times, did the best reporting I found out there.
02:00:16.000 A lot of it was just disinfo.
02:00:18.000 Oh, Bush has been given a great defeat, a great victory for civil libertarians.
02:00:22.000 I'm sure you all heard that on radio and TV and in print.
02:00:25.000 Well, now people have actually looked at the changes.
02:00:28.000 It's all just some flowery language.
02:00:31.000 It allows secret arrest of U.S.
02:00:33.000 citizens for any reason under Section 802 of the Patriot Act, secret trials, secret executions.
02:00:41.000 So they're just codifying what Bush has already been doing publicly, but with the key group of the Arabs and the Muslims and the Central Asians.
02:00:49.000 Now it's for everybody!
02:00:51.000 And they're calling this a defeat of Bush, getting what he wants codified into law, total broadside, total annihilation of the Fourth Amendment, the Seventh Amendment, just due process.
02:01:06.000 It's unbelievable!
02:01:09.000 And it has passed out of the Senate Committee and the full Senate being being spun in the media as a way to shield our rights knowing it'll fool the public just long enough for you not to protest and demonstrate so they can pass it to the full Senate and the House.
02:01:25.000 Military defense lawyers assailed compromise legislation for interrogating and prosecuting terrorist suspects contending Friday that proposed rules would prevent them from learning whether evidence used against their clients was obtained through coercion or torture.
02:01:39.000 At the same time, rights groups who initially endorsed the compromise between Bush administration and key Senate Republicans expressed reservations, saying it appeared on closer reading to be vague and could give President Bush a future president's too much latitude.
02:01:53.000 Quote, it is more worse, it is worse than the system that was in place before, said Marine Corps Major Michael Morey, a military defense lawyer.
02:02:01.000 It is not going to ensure that it's a fair trial.
02:02:05.000 Understand.
02:02:06.000 And that's a secret military tribunal, not a real trial to begin with.
02:02:09.000 It allows the secret arrest of U.S.
02:02:11.000 citizens for rendition.
02:02:13.000 There will actually be a law, not just Bush saying he is the law, which obviously he wasn't, so the Supreme Court said no, it's illegal, you can't do it.
02:02:21.000 So he runs to Congress, and then they lie.
02:02:24.000 It's like Bush says his guest worker isn't an amnesty, when it's the biggest amnesty ever.
02:02:31.000 You see, it's all congenital, 180 from reality, lying.
02:02:37.000 And it just goes on and on here.
02:02:39.000 We'll come back at more into this, more into the National Intelligence Review.
02:02:43.000 Your call, stay with us.
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02:05:54.000 You want answers?
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02:06:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:06:08.000 Storming the gates of the New World Order, engaging the enemy at point-blank range.
02:06:14.000 Whenever I hear that intro music, I just envision the smoke of war, and I see millions of Americans, black, white, old, young, climbing over the emplacements, going over the barbed wire, bayonetting the New World Order minions in their nest, taking this country back!
02:06:30.000 And this is an information war, make no mistake!
02:06:33.000 And we're having victory after victory after victory!
02:06:37.000 Doesn't mean we won't have defeats.
02:06:38.000 Doesn't mean things won't get tough.
02:06:40.000 Doesn't mean that there won't be adversity.
02:06:42.000 It won't mean that things aren't going to get a lot darker before the dawn.
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02:06:58.000 Sean, Fred, Richard, Ron, everybody, I'm going to get to you, but let me roll through some of the news first.
02:07:05.000 I was getting into compromise on treatment of terror suspects assailed.
02:07:09.000 Critics include military defense lawyers who say it's worse than the system in place.
02:07:16.000 And see, this is one of the government's main tricks.
02:07:19.000 State, county, city, federal, they all do it.
02:07:21.000 They have handbooks on policy, how to lie.
02:07:25.000 And it's the same thing with amnesty.
02:07:27.000 Bush's guest worker program is total, complete North America integration.
02:07:33.000 Total legalization of anyone worldwide, the 6 plus billion third world population, 100 million new people every 16 to 18 months.
02:07:41.000 I say that because the last census trended it every 18 months, but new projections show it's going to probably be less than 15 even.
02:07:48.000 15 even.
02:07:49.000 It may even be a year when the 2010 census comes out, 100 million every year.
02:07:55.000 They're all coming here, and it allows unlimited, skilled, unskilled, unlimited companies to actually pay to bring them in.
02:08:03.000 It's just unbelievable.
02:08:08.000 It gives them North American ID cards, U.S.
02:08:10.000 citizens will have to have them, the Real ID Act is tied into it.
02:08:13.000 I mean, it's the end of the country.
02:08:15.000 And Bush gets up there and says, this is not an amnesty in a State of the Union two years ago.
02:08:19.000 And he says it again a few months ago.
02:08:22.000 Then he does that dog and pony show of, oh, I'm going to put 6,000 troops on the border, and it turns out it's only been 1,500, and 80% of those were in logistics, never even went to the border, so it's a couple hundred troops, not even allowed to have ammunition or arrest anybody, they just call the Border Patrol when they see something.
02:08:38.000 Now they're going to have Boeing put out sensors on the border, designed to fail, and what, pay them 3 billion bucks to do it?
02:08:48.000 You know how many Sheriff's deputies $3 billion would pay for in Texas border counties.
02:08:54.000 We just gave it all to them without strings.
02:08:57.000 Just they had to have armored vehicles and put those new deputies spaced out on the border.
02:09:02.000 I haven't done the math, but off the top of my head, I know it would hire hundreds of new deputies full-time with equipment a year.
02:09:10.000 At the state level, they can be under state control through the governors.
02:09:14.000 Of course, we have traitor governors, so it's not going to happen.
02:09:16.000 You put them out there with armored vehicles and .50 caliber rifles, and the Mexican troops will quit shooting people and quit kidnapping.
02:09:22.000 And do they want to have a war?
02:09:23.000 We'll have a war and kick their hind ends like we've done two times before!
02:09:27.000 And I'll go join the military and I'll go down there because Mexico's a real enemy attacking this country and destroying our sovereignty and saying this country belongs to them.
02:09:35.000 Iran isn't doing that.
02:09:37.000 Iraq isn't doing that.
02:09:38.000 Syria isn't doing that.
02:09:40.000 Mexico is!
02:09:43.000 And I'm tired of it!
02:09:47.000 I'm tired of it!
02:09:49.000 All you stupid warmongers out there don't know what a real war is for.
02:09:53.000 A war is to defend your country.
02:09:55.000 Period!
02:09:56.000 It's to defend your families.
02:09:58.000 And let me tell you, we got reasons for a war.
02:10:00.000 But forget Mexico, the war against us is being run out of D.C.
02:10:04.000 D.C.
02:10:05.000 is using that third world cesspool of corruption to break down our country.
02:10:13.000 And before I go any further, I digressed off into the border situation.
02:10:18.000 His smoke and mirror of, oh, I'll fix the illegal alien problem.
02:10:22.000 Yeah, you will by totally ending illegal aliens.
02:10:25.000 You'll just make them all legal.
02:10:27.000 Well, it's the same thing with this.
02:10:28.000 Oh, Bush has been defeated.
02:10:29.000 Mmm, big defeat of Bush.
02:10:31.000 Neocons on radio going, you watch what they've done to the President.
02:10:35.000 We'll allow terrorists to hit us now.
02:10:37.000 What they've done, it gives him more than what he said!
02:10:40.000 In law, secret arrest, secret torture, secret execution of U.S.
02:10:45.000 citizens?
02:10:48.000 I mean, my gosh, they didn't even have that in the Civil War when Sherman was burning half the South down!
02:10:56.000 Even the British Admiralty didn't have power like that!
02:11:02.000 This is unprecedented!
02:11:04.000 And they call it a defeat, so people go, Oh, we defeated George Bush, McCain.
02:11:10.000 Mr. Anti-Corruption's leading the charge against it.
02:11:14.000 Well, if McCain's for the bill, it must be good.
02:11:18.000 I like McCain.
02:11:20.000 I've had so many idiots walk up to me and go, I like McCain.
02:11:23.000 Well, Alex, I don't like Bush or Clinton.
02:11:25.000 You're right.
02:11:26.000 They're both corrupt.
02:11:26.000 But I like, I like McCain.
02:11:30.000 Mr. Anti-Corruption, he's part of the Keating Five.
02:11:34.000 He is a criminal.
02:11:36.000 He's been involved in a bunch of other scandals.
02:11:38.000 I've interviewed people that were at the base with him and he was lavished with care and then taken to a literal fine building hotel to live in with horror supplied to him.
02:11:48.000 That piece of filth's a traitor!
02:11:50.000 His daddy was the head of the Navy!
02:11:52.000 He got a gold carpet from those North Vietnamese Communists!
02:11:58.000 He's a piece of trash!
02:11:59.000 Again, they say It's not an amnesty, it's the biggest amnesty ever.
02:12:04.000 They say it stops Bush from torture and secret arrest when it actually codifies it.
02:12:08.000 They say McCain's anti-corruption when he is part of the Keating Five.
02:12:13.000 That's like saying Al Capone is an anti-corruption candidate.
02:12:18.000 Because the media, I mean, you trust the media?
02:12:21.000 The one person they're always telling you how good he is, McCain?
02:12:26.000 The guy is a giant I'm not going to say it.
02:12:30.000 The point is, I just can't handle it anymore.
02:12:32.000 Just the level of ignorance.
02:12:34.000 The level of being scammed.
02:12:38.000 Just everything is up is down, down is up, black is white, white is black, and I just... Folks, if you knew how bad it is, if you really studied this all the time and lived this like I do, it would make your head spin.
02:12:49.000 I mean, it is such a joke how bad the lies are.
02:12:55.000 So we read this, Compromise on treatment of terrorist suspects.
02:13:00.000 Listen to this.
02:13:01.000 Congressional Republican leaders nonetheless plan to move the compromise military tribunal bill to a vote next week before lawmakers recess.
02:13:08.000 That's going to go on this week.
02:13:09.000 And again, they fooled everybody saying, this is a big defeat for Bush.
02:13:13.000 Yeah, like winning the lotteries of defeat.
02:13:15.000 I mean, it's just, they may tie the bill, Which has support among a number of Democrats to a more controversial measure authorizing Bush's once-secret warrantless surveillance program.
02:13:26.000 That's right!
02:13:26.000 In there is also legislation for unlimited no Fourth Amendment.
02:13:34.000 Legislation introduced by Senate GOP leader Friday would make it clear to the President, in some cases, has the authority under the Constitution, the Constitution says the opposite, to unilaterally order surveillance without a judge's approval.
02:13:50.000 And here is the Navy Judge Advocate General and member of the Board of Human Rights saying, who supports the plan by the way, it may be only, it may be the only way some people can have their situation resolved in court, said Rear Admiral John Huston, a former top Navy Judge Advocate General.
02:14:08.000 Where's his quote in here about how you won't be able to get a fair trial?
02:14:15.000 Okay, so I mean, it's just, this is how they operate.
02:14:19.000 They're going to codify in law no Fourth Amendment.
02:14:23.000 They're going to codify in law they can secretly arrest American citizens without charges.
02:14:27.000 And you can disappear into black holes.
02:14:30.000 And they call that a defeat of the President.
02:14:35.000 Oh, Congress is getting tough, defeating the President with a border security plan!
02:14:41.000 You gotta look at the border security plan, it's an amnesty plan.
02:14:46.000 You see, and they just play that game, knowing the general public, even those that are somewhat politically tuned in, just tune in and hear that and go, oh good, we're shooting down the torture.
02:14:56.000 We're shooting down the amnesty.
02:14:58.000 Oh, McCain's in there looking out for us.
02:15:01.000 Good old McCain.
02:15:04.000 Good old McCain.
02:15:08.000 Good old McCain with his locked jaw and strutting around.
02:15:13.000 That guy's a giant un-American maggot.
02:15:17.000 I'm so sick of all these group of criminals nesting and sucking off of our country.
02:15:23.000 Bleeding our country dry.
02:15:26.000 Just sitting there over us and then I look at the public.
02:15:29.000 Just mindlessly loving it.
02:15:31.000 Mindlessly loving high-tech slavery being set up.
02:15:34.000 Mindlessly loving having the Treasury being completely blown out.
02:15:38.000 Mindlessly loving surveillance grids going in everywhere and every imaginable cancer, virus and poison being put in your drugs and vaccines and you're just slathering to inject them in your tiny children who then die of diabetes and other forms of diseases right in front of you and dying of All this garbage, all these cancers they're getting, childhood leukemias exploding.
02:16:07.000 They're now resurrecting babies.
02:16:09.000 I have the BBC.
02:16:11.000 They took dead embryos, killed them, and then resurrected them.
02:16:15.000 It's just every form of evil and wickedness and dehumanization.
02:16:21.000 And I'm the weirdo.
02:16:23.000 I'm bad because I don't like it.
02:16:26.000 I'm weird because I'm freaked out by it.
02:16:31.000 Because I'm a primitive who knows a threat when I see it, and I got my hackles up.
02:16:36.000 I'm like a dog that sees somebody sneaking around in the backyard.
02:16:39.000 I'm growling and biting and chomping at the door, trying to get out to go bite them, and you walk in and slap me upside the head and say, say, SHUT UP BUTCH!
02:16:49.000 I'm just growling and snarling and... You won't look out the window.
02:16:55.000 you won't see what's right out there about to come in your house and eat your lunch.
02:16:59.000 Oh, heaven help us.
02:17:07.000 Heaven help this country.
02:17:09.000 I'm looking at the French News Agency, AFP.
02:17:13.000 China rolls out next generation of Internet report.
02:17:16.000 And then you read, it's Internet 2, end of the free Internet in China, total controls, and then it says, later, we're getting the same thing here in the U.S.
02:17:25.000 And the average person will read this and go quietly into the night, and they say by 2010, they're going to shut down the old net and force us onto the new one.
02:17:34.000 And my numbers are, it's earlier than that, they're already starting to kill net neutrality without even having legislation.
02:17:41.000 So, uh, they're not, you think they're going to let us keep beating their butts?
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02:21:39.000 That's 1-800-845-3841. - So let me state as we go to your calls, calmly succinctly.
02:21:55.000 Bush has been announcing he's above the law, that he's an emperor, he can do whatever he wants, and the Supreme Court said, no you can't, so he's going to Congress, and Congress Is billing it as a pro-liberty piece of legislation with the fake McCain up front fooling everyone when it actually, and this is what all the lawyers on both sides have looked at it, gives the President unlimited power.
02:22:18.000 I mean, if you can secretly arrest and spy on whoever you want and secretly try and secret tribunals and secretly execute, baby, you can do anything.
02:22:27.000 Imagine, the United States is going to put stuff on paper that China hasn't even authorized itself to do.
02:22:36.000 And it has nothing to do with terrorism.
02:22:38.000 The people doing this are the ones that carried out the terror.
02:22:42.000 Sean in Arizona, thanks for holding her on the air worldwide.
02:22:46.000 Hi Alex, thanks for having me on the show again.
02:22:49.000 I want to commend Mr. Chavez for coming forward.
02:22:53.000 And people really need to go out and read these laws.
02:22:57.000 This president now has more power than the KGB.
02:23:03.000 They hired the former head of the KGB to help set all this up!
02:23:09.000 And it's incredible to me.
02:23:11.000 I don't know how John McCain gets re-elected because no one I find in Arizona likes the guy.
02:23:17.000 Oh, they're clearly election fraud for the senior citizen.
02:23:20.000 The senior, excuse me, senior senator from Arizona.
02:23:24.000 I mean, he is such a fake!
02:23:26.000 People forget he's Keating 5!
02:23:30.000 And they bill him as anti-corruption!
02:23:34.000 I do pass out your video and people are waking up.
02:23:37.000 They are waking up.
02:23:38.000 I just hope it's not too late.
02:23:41.000 Did you hear me talk about how we had millions of downloads on Google and they wiped us all out and then set us back to zero to knock us off the charts because we were getting into their favorite, you know, in top 100?
02:23:51.000 Yep.
02:23:54.000 We cannot let them get away with that.
02:23:56.000 Everyone must re-email out my terror storm.
02:24:00.000 I made it.
02:24:00.000 I put it out for free.
02:24:02.000 And we're going to kick their hind end with it.
02:24:06.000 And maybe it's a glitch.
02:24:07.000 Maybe Google just accidentally doesn't list our news stories when they get millions of visitors.
02:24:11.000 And when we gripe, they suddenly list them.
02:24:14.000 And maybe they accidentally reset all of the downloads of it to zero, but didn't do it to anybody else.
02:24:21.000 Maybe it is an accident, but that problem needs to be fixed.
02:24:25.000 I don't think it's an accident, Alex.
02:24:28.000 I wonder why they're not wiping loose change off the ratings, but they're wiping us.
02:24:34.000 You're more dangerous than the loose change guys, Alex.
02:24:37.000 I don't know.
02:24:37.000 I think they're pretty darn dangerous.
02:24:39.000 I hope everybody's super dangerous.
02:24:40.000 I hope somebody comes along 10,000 times more dangerous than I am to the New World Order.
02:24:44.000 I don't like walking point.
02:24:46.000 Well, you're not going to be, Alex.
02:24:48.000 We're out there, we're passing out these videos, and we will not surrender.
02:24:52.000 We will not give up our... Well, there's an old clip I used to play about eight years ago on the show, and it's from some movie, and it's, If they take me out, who'll take my place?
02:25:00.000 And everybody goes, We will!
02:25:02.000 And that's the answer we need.
02:25:04.000 They cannot get us all.
02:25:06.000 And I tell you, if they kill me or kill other patriot leaders, it'll be just like the Alamo.
02:25:10.000 It'll be, Remember!
02:25:12.000 Remember, remember!
02:25:16.000 Absolutely, Alex, and we are not going to surrender our liberties to these people.
02:25:21.000 They're a bunch of sickos!
02:25:22.000 How arrogant are they?
02:25:24.000 I mean, I go back to it.
02:25:25.000 Folks, the White House counsels write memos about torturing children in front of their parents, and then get questioned about it at a CFR meeting by even disgusted CFR members, and they go, yeah, we're allowed to do that.
02:25:37.000 I mean, that is just unbelievable!
02:25:40.000 It is.
02:25:42.000 They are codifying some of the most horrid torture That the world's ever seen since Hitler.
02:25:49.000 But it's to keep us safe from Al-Cieda.
02:25:51.000 Thanks for the call.
02:25:52.000 Fred in Philly.
02:25:53.000 You're on the air.
02:25:54.000 Welcome.
02:25:55.000 Hey Alex.
02:25:57.000 You know, there's somebody like John Yoo in Delaware.
02:26:05.000 I'm hearing you there.
02:26:07.000 Can you hear me?
02:26:08.000 You got call waiting.
02:26:09.000 Somebody's calling you.
02:26:10.000 No, I don't.
02:26:10.000 I don't have call waiting.
02:26:11.000 Okay, well, something cut out.
02:26:12.000 Go ahead.
02:26:12.000 There's someone in Delaware that recently won the U.S.
02:26:17.000 Senate primary in one of the two parties, Jan Ting.
02:26:23.000 And he had been going around and setting up these community meetings in favor of the Patriot Act.
02:26:30.000 I remember that.
02:26:31.000 I had attended a number of them, and they were complete shams.
02:26:36.000 So there's someone like John Yoo that is now being groomed for a uh... I believe it's senator or... Well it's like Viet Dinh writing the Patriot Act and I'm not knocking Asian-Americans.
02:26:48.000 They're great folks but why is there such a disproportionate amount of Asian-Americans putting out the sickening policy?
02:26:54.000 Well I think it has to do with just the fact that you have to you have to have been here a long time and you have to really feel the The specialness of the country and the people, and that gut connection, and why you shouldn't give up the Constitution.
02:27:12.000 No, no, I agree.
02:27:13.000 We're out of time.
02:27:14.000 Thanks for the call.
02:27:15.000 Yeah, Alberto Gonzalez, member of MECHA, believes this is Mexico, so he's not an American.
02:27:21.000 Michael Chertoff is a known Israeli citizen.
02:27:25.000 And if you actually start looking, it's like more than half the people in the White House aren't even Americans.
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02:30:55.000 Alright, we're going to get to your calls.
02:31:04.000 Richard, Ron, and many others that are patiently holding, I do have some other news I want to briefly hit on as well.
02:31:10.000 And I appreciate her letting us back her up today.
02:31:12.000 We had a surprise guest in the first hour, as many of you heard, inside CENTCOM, seeing top officers talk about how they were given a stand-down order.
02:31:22.000 Really incredible information.
02:31:25.000 But she joins us now, June Griffin, charged with stealing Mexican flag from Dayton Business.
02:31:29.000 Now, let me be clear here.
02:31:32.000 We have three different videos we posted a few weeks ago.
02:31:35.000 In Arizona and two in California where illegal aliens in mass go to schools, post offices, you name it, in front of police.
02:31:45.000 They take American flags down off flag poles.
02:31:48.000 They burn them in one case and others rip them up and stomp on them and hoist Mexican flags.
02:31:53.000 And I got a bunch of other videos where they hoist Mexican on top of American.
02:31:59.000 And in a case in Arizona, a young man jerked the flag away, the American flag, hoisted it back up, and last time I read, he was arrested.
02:32:10.000 The police do nothing to the illegal aliens.
02:32:12.000 They know it's a protected group.
02:32:14.000 The White House hired Rob Allen and co.
02:32:16.000 to stage all the demonstrations, to try to bully the American people into submission.
02:32:20.000 Yes, our government's using a foreign mass of people.
02:32:23.000 Now there's over 65,000 of them in our military.
02:32:27.000 Illegal aliens!
02:32:27.000 Instantly legalized.
02:32:29.000 Foreign troops within our country, controlled by our government.
02:32:33.000 Well, June Griffin was just sick of it.
02:32:35.000 June Griffin, charged with stealing a Mexican flag from Dayton Business, she blew up.
02:32:39.000 She went in there, the guy wouldn't talk to her in English.
02:32:42.000 He had the Mexican flag hanging up, she grabbed it.
02:32:45.000 It's the type of anger we really would expect to see from normal people.
02:32:49.000 But the thing is, she isn't getting charged with just some little misdemeanor or disorderly conduct or something.
02:32:54.000 No, they're throwing the book at her.
02:32:55.000 She's facing years in prison, $5,000 bond.
02:32:59.000 Conservative political activist June Griffin has been arrested for the theft of a Mexican piece of trash flag.
02:33:05.000 I'm sorry.
02:33:06.000 Conservative political activist June Griffin has been arrested for the theft of a Mexican slave rag.
02:33:11.000 I'm sorry.
02:33:12.000 I can't.
02:33:13.000 I'm having trouble.
02:33:14.000 Conservative political activist June Griffin has been arrested for the theft of a flag that represents a drug dealing kleptocracy with an enslaved population who have been brainwashed to hate America.
02:33:24.000 I'm sorry, that's not what the article says.
02:33:26.000 Conservative political activist June Griffin has been arrested for the theft of a Mexican flag from a Dayton business.
02:33:33.000 The 67-year-old Ms.
02:33:34.000 Griffin, who ran for Congress in the recent election, is facing misdemeanor charges of theft, vandalism and harassment, and a felony charge of civil rights violations or hate crime.
02:33:43.000 See, that's the felony, folks.
02:33:45.000 She'd normally get a misdemeanor for what she did.
02:33:48.000 When a pack of illegal aliens comes in and robs you at gunpoint, the cops don't even come.
02:33:53.000 Ms.
02:33:54.000 Griffin, who said it was the first time she'd ever been arrested, posted a $5,000 bond.
02:33:58.000 She said on July 18th she had noticed a small Mexican flag at the Hispanic grocery in the former Rogers Drugstore.
02:34:04.000 She stated, I went in there and there was nothing English in the store.
02:34:10.000 There was one man who could not speak a word of English.
02:34:13.000 Obviously an illegal ALM, but nothing will be done.
02:34:15.000 He gets a free 10-year tax credit.
02:34:17.000 She said she was outraged by the Mexican flag, saying it was an act of war and insulted her citizenship.
02:34:23.000 Ms.
02:34:23.000 Griffin said, oh by the way, you try going and buying a store in Mexico, they won't let you do it.
02:34:28.000 You try putting an American flag up, they'll lynch you.
02:34:31.000 There won't be a word about it on the news either, by the way.
02:34:33.000 Ms.
02:34:34.000 Griffin said, see we're a pathetic, politically correct group of chicken necks.
02:34:38.000 Ms.
02:34:38.000 Griffin isn't, but this country is, and now we're being usurped by a bunch of third world criminals.
02:34:43.000 Ms.
02:34:43.000 Griffin, and yes, all illegals are criminals.
02:34:46.000 Ms.
02:34:46.000 Griffin said, as the Hispanic man watched, she tore off the flag from where it was suctioned to a building and left with it.
02:34:54.000 She said foreigners should learn English or leave.
02:34:56.000 Ms.
02:34:56.000 Griffin said she will represent herself in court and said it was done openly and was not a theft.
02:35:02.000 She said she later returned the Mexican flag to a police officer.
02:35:06.000 Like they're going to help you.
02:35:07.000 They love killing this country.
02:35:09.000 She said, okay that's not fair.
02:35:11.000 A lot of them do.
02:35:12.000 She said a much larger Mexican flag was later put in its place but she said it is no longer there.
02:35:17.000 Everybody needs to call immigration And you need to go out there and videotape all those people going in and out and they need to be arrested.
02:35:27.000 I'm sorry.
02:35:29.000 Let's go to June Griffin.
02:35:30.000 June, thanks for coming on with us.
02:35:32.000 Thank you very much.
02:35:33.000 I appreciate it.
02:35:33.000 I'm sorry I'm ranting here.
02:35:36.000 Well, what I want to say as far as activists, the word activist, in our Tennessee Constitution, the Declaration of Rights, It states that the doctrine of non-resistance to arbitrary power is abusive and slavish and absurd.
02:35:53.000 And so we are being subjected to an arbitrary power through this multiculturalism.
02:35:59.000 And I, as a Tennessean, am not going to put up with arbitrary power.
02:36:05.000 And of course the arbitrary power is coming from the I'm not kidding when I say that and they're all above the law.
02:36:11.000 They get more tuition, more funding, more welfare.
02:36:12.000 Legal aliens, whether they be from Russia, India, or Mexico, but Mexico, they're the special.
02:36:17.000 They're about everybody.
02:36:18.000 They're first class.
02:36:19.000 An Indian or a Russian second class.
02:36:21.000 Citizens are like fifth class.
02:36:23.000 Cops are third class.
02:36:24.000 And I'm not kidding when I say that, and they're all above the law.
02:36:27.000 They get more tuition, more funding, more welfare.
02:36:30.000 It's an incentive to bring them here to destroy this country.
02:36:32.000 Well, we're paying for it, and that's always been my position.
02:36:36.000 I know, that's always fun.
02:36:37.000 We subsidize all the companies that use the cheap labor by paying for their welfare.
02:36:42.000 Exactly.
02:36:42.000 And so therefore, to maintain my name as a Tennessean, I have to resist arbitrary power.
02:36:48.000 Is this guy an illegal alien that runs this place?
02:36:50.000 I don't know.
02:36:51.000 I'm asking for a discovery process through the DA's office.
02:36:56.000 I bet money there's at least illegal aliens working in there.
02:37:00.000 Well, the point is that this is our country.
02:37:04.000 Veterans paid for it.
02:37:05.000 Christ paid for it.
02:37:07.000 And if you come in You know, the right way.
02:37:12.000 The scripture says, if you come in another way, you're a thief and a robber.
02:37:15.000 Well, why does this guy have his filthy Mexican flag hanging up?
02:37:18.000 I don't know.
02:37:19.000 I don't know what his motives are.
02:37:21.000 He won't speak to me in the language I can understand.
02:37:25.000 And so, therefore, after we had left the country... I bet he'll tell you about his Raza, though.
02:37:29.000 I don't know.
02:37:30.000 That's the name of most of the radio stations and grocery stores now around here.
02:37:34.000 It's race.
02:37:35.000 It's all about the race and how I'm a dog creature and how they're a master of race and I'm sick of it.
02:37:42.000 Well, I don't care who you are.
02:37:45.000 You're going to come in the door.
02:37:47.000 When you become naturalized, you have to read right at the beginning.
02:37:50.000 Well, Bush said last week that there's 11 million, it's really 30, and we can't, quote, round them all up.
02:37:55.000 Does that mean just capitulate to the 30 million and whoever else comes?
02:37:59.000 Well, I don't think there are 30 million in Tennessee, and the sheriff in each county Can rid the county of whatever... Exactly, but the ACLU and the rest of them go pile on any sheriff that tries to arrest these hordes of criminals.
02:38:13.000 And by the way, statistically, they're much more likely to be involved in drug driving, robbery, crime, because they're already criminals to come here to begin with.
02:38:22.000 They are thieves if you come in the wrong way.
02:38:25.000 And so I, being a good Tennessean and a Christian and an American, They're not going to come into Dayton, Tennessee without having some resistance.
02:38:35.000 Well, describe what happened when you were in this Usurper Invader store.
02:38:39.000 Tell us what happened.
02:38:41.000 Well, my daughter-in-law, I have a beautiful red-headed daughter-in-law, and she is American as I am, just to the bone, and so we had been... See, for some time, I've tried to get our county and our city to pass an ordinance to keep foreign flags from being flown here.
02:39:00.000 Because I see the dangers of this multiculturalism and I have been to both councils.
02:39:06.000 Well, we had again approached our council, our county commission, and it fell on deaf ears.
02:39:12.000 And when you reach, we have no redress of grievances.
02:39:16.000 So I had not been near this store.
02:39:18.000 I had heard about it, you know, drove by, and I said, let's go down there, Stacey.
02:39:23.000 So we went by.
02:39:26.000 It's on a corner, so you have a front door and a side door.
02:39:30.000 And the side door had this Mexican flag, a very small flag, not more than 16 inches long, pasted to the back window of that door.
02:39:42.000 And so I went in, and there was the kid sitting on a stool.
02:39:46.000 I don't know how old he was, but I tried to speak to him.
02:39:50.000 Because the Bible says, and I've always followed those prescriptions, if you have ought against your neighbor, you're supposed to go to them.
02:39:56.000 So I went in there.
02:39:57.000 Don't accuse them from afar.
02:39:57.000 That's right.
02:39:59.000 Go right to their face.
02:40:00.000 And we have to do that.
02:40:00.000 Exactly.
02:40:02.000 So I went in there and he certainly was not intimidated by any means.
02:40:07.000 He sat there and stared at me as stupidly.
02:40:10.000 And I tried to talk to him and he would not or could not speak English.
02:40:14.000 And I naturally, being an American, I got very angry with this, and I tore the flag off the window and walked out.
02:40:23.000 There was no vandalism, there was not any...
02:40:28.000 17 Christians ended up charging 8 of them with 47 years in prison for quietly praying on a street corner in Philadelphia.
02:40:34.000 They finally had to drop it.
02:40:36.000 Listen, you took some maybe 50 cent piece of junk flag off the window and bare minimum, sure, disorderly conduct, whatever, that's the maximum is a misdemeanor.
02:40:48.000 They charge you with a felony.
02:40:49.000 They charge you with a hate crime.
02:40:51.000 It's right here in the paper.
02:40:52.000 And they'll send you to prison.
02:40:54.000 The crime, the crisis, is that your government, when this happened, is throwing the book at you to frustrate your free speech.
02:41:01.000 Now what do you do when you go into court?
02:41:03.000 And once you televise, you have press conferences, and you play off of, you know, take a TV that's got a VCR, have somebody get these off the web for you that knows how, you can show videos all over the country of them burning American flags, pulling them off schools, pulling them off churches, pulling them off of government buildings, city halls, and doing this, and then when Americans try to get that flag back and hang up that, they arrest Americans!
02:41:28.000 We're supposed to lay here while 30 million people roll over us, And openly say they're going to kill all whites!
02:41:36.000 Now I've gone out and protested the Ku Klux Klan, ladies and gentlemen, ten times.
02:41:40.000 I'm against racist groups.
02:41:41.000 But let me tell you, the Klan doesn't have 30 million people.
02:41:44.000 And I'm sick of our government paying for the textbooks in Mexico that say this is their country.
02:41:49.000 It is not their country!
02:41:51.000 And they're in New York, you name it, doing this now, taking over this country, killing this country, murdering people, racial attacks, and nothing's done.
02:42:01.000 Meanwhile, this woman goes and gets some 50-cent Mexican flag and grabs it off in anger, and then they're throwing the book at her for thought crime and speech crime.
02:42:11.000 Now, who charged you?
02:42:14.000 Who is the traitor, piece of garbage, in Tennessee?
02:42:17.000 What office did this?
02:42:20.000 The DA is the one.
02:42:21.000 I've never seen this character.
02:42:22.000 He's a piece of filth.
02:42:23.000 Tell me who he is.
02:42:25.000 The DA is... In what county?
02:42:28.000 In what city?
02:42:28.000 In Ray County.
02:42:29.000 R-A-T-E-A.
02:42:30.000 What county?
02:42:33.000 Ray.
02:42:33.000 R-A-T-E-A.
02:42:34.000 Ray County.
02:42:34.000 That's where the Scopes trial was back in 1925.
02:42:38.000 And I have said to all over this country, because I went all over the state on behalf... What is the DA's name?
02:42:44.000 Who is this little punk's name?
02:42:46.000 Pope is his name.
02:42:48.000 Jim Pope, I believe.
02:42:49.000 Well that's shameful.
02:42:50.000 That's one of my family names.
02:42:51.000 I'm ashamed of that name now.
02:42:53.000 Well, he's doing the bidding of somebody.
02:42:56.000 I don't know.
02:42:57.000 I've never seen the man who charged me.
02:42:59.000 No doubt it's ADL or somebody.
02:43:01.000 I don't know.
02:43:02.000 But it may be that I may have to wipe them out in the process.
02:43:06.000 I don't know exactly.
02:43:07.000 I have said to county commissions all over Tennessee because I cover Tennessee on behalf of the right to post the Ten Commandments.
02:43:15.000 Ninety-one counties I've read.
02:43:16.000 Hold on just a second.
02:43:18.000 So you're a political activist, they know that.
02:43:19.000 You're in Ray County, Tennessee.
02:43:21.000 Where is that?
02:43:23.000 It's north of Chattanooga, 27 miles.
02:43:25.000 Do you have the number to the District Attorney Pope?
02:43:32.000 Let's see here.
02:43:33.000 I probably do.
02:43:35.000 Um, yes.
02:43:39.000 Now is this his office number?
02:43:40.000 Now they know me very well.
02:43:42.000 Is this his Un-American Traitor's office number?
02:43:45.000 423.
02:43:47.000 This is his office number?
02:43:48.000 Yes.
02:43:49.000 What's Pope's first name?
02:43:51.000 Jim.
02:43:51.000 Okay, Jim Pope is charging a 67 year old woman with thought crime for grabbing a 50 cent flag off a door with a pack of illegal aliens.
02:44:01.000 Alright, now let's 423.
02:44:02.000 OK, 423.
02:44:03.000 775.
02:44:03.000 4468.
02:44:03.000 4468.
02:44:03.000 Right.
02:44:03.000 OK, 423.
02:44:03.000 4468.
02:44:03.000 Right.
02:44:04.000 And call them.
02:44:05.000 Be polite and focused and say, this is America.
02:44:07.000 Shame on you.
02:44:08.000 4468. 4468. Right.
02:44:11.000 Okay, 423-775-4468.
02:44:15.000 Right.
02:44:15.000 And call them, be polite and focused, and say, this is America, shame on you, and get their email address and say, we want to email you the illegal aliens everywhere, burning American flags, grabbing them off of government buildings.
02:44:29.000 They sit there and suck their thumbs.
02:44:31.000 Notice the cops will rubber bullet and beat any American, black, white, old, young, Hispanic, if they're out demonstrating for freedom or liberty.
02:44:39.000 But you're an illegal alien, you can walk highways in LA, do whatever you want, and the government just falls down worshiping you!
02:44:47.000 Well, a lot of it has to do with, I keep taking it back, to the tax money that we've had extorted Which is shipped back to the counties and our governor today in Tennessee made an announcement that he was against taking the federal money because of the headaches of dealing with, for example, a 400 page manual Telling us how the money could be spent.
02:45:11.000 So I'm really proud of this move here.
02:45:14.000 Jim Pope is the District Attorney.
02:45:16.000 He's the Assistant District Attorney.
02:45:18.000 Assistant District Attorney.
02:45:19.000 And you need to call, now is this a general switchboard or is this his office?
02:45:23.000 This would be the office of the DA, who is Mike Taylor.
02:45:27.000 Mike Taylor.
02:45:27.000 People need to call Mike Taylor.
02:45:29.000 It's 423-775-4468.
02:45:29.000 And you need to call him and say, The illegal aliens are running around, taking over highways, beating people up, bashing up cars.
02:45:41.000 Yeah, you haven't seen the video, it's all online.
02:45:43.000 Burning flags, and it's okay, but a woman grabs a little Mexican flag, and you're going to try to put her in prison.
02:45:50.000 How much jail time are you facing with this felony?
02:45:52.000 Uh, two to four years on that.
02:45:54.000 One of the reporters asked me with Channel 3.
02:45:58.000 He said, don't you know this is going to cost you a lot?
02:46:01.000 And I said, it cost Davy Crockett his life.
02:46:04.000 Another volunteer from Tennessee down here to Tejas.
02:46:08.000 Right.
02:46:09.000 And I had just made, I bought an Alamo flag and had written on it, remember the Alamo.
02:46:16.000 So that's my flag for this time.
02:46:20.000 And we have all these counties that have said they have a right to post a ticket.
02:46:24.000 My position is we're taking the Bill of Rights away from the aliens.
02:46:26.000 Hey, it's simple.
02:46:27.000 You go to Mexico and you fly under their flag, they'll beat you up in the street.
02:46:31.000 Exactly.
02:46:31.000 Okay?
02:46:31.000 They don't let illegal aliens come into their country.
02:46:34.000 They think they can walk all over this country.
02:46:35.000 They think we're a bunch of wimps.
02:46:37.000 And I'm not a wimp!
02:46:38.000 And I have nothing against Hispanic Americans.
02:46:41.000 I love them.
02:46:42.000 Okay?
02:46:42.000 They're good people.
02:46:43.000 But I am against these 30 million illegal aliens that hate this country.
02:46:48.000 And they need to get out and they need to leave.
02:46:50.000 One thing I want to come out of this is to end these dual citizenships.
02:46:54.000 Teddy Roosevelt said we have no such thing as a hibernated America.
02:46:58.000 That's right.
02:46:59.000 You've got the Mexicans going down there to vote.
02:47:01.000 They'll vote in both elections.
02:47:02.000 And Mexico says this is how they're taking over the U.S.
02:47:05.000 and our government loves it for the North American Union.
02:47:08.000 Did you know, June, that they're setting up the North American Union right now?
02:47:12.000 Yes, I know they will, but they will not prosper in that.
02:47:15.000 Well don't you dare pull down an American Union flag or we'll put you in jail for four years.
02:47:20.000 The point is that we're not going to have any more dual citizenship.
02:47:24.000 The point is illegal aliens are gods in this country and Americans are pieces of trash with no rights and I'm sick of it and I'm sick of your district attorney.
02:47:33.000 What is his name again?
02:47:35.000 Well Mike Taylor is the DA and Jim Pope is the assistant DA who is the mouthpiece for this Ma'am, we need good constitutional lawyers in your area to come to your aid.
02:47:47.000 We need people to support you.
02:47:48.000 We need people to come protest.
02:47:50.000 Do you want to give out your contact info?
02:47:52.000 Oh, sure.
02:47:53.000 423-775-0774.
02:47:53.000 And I'm set for trial March 21st.
02:47:56.000 Lord willing.
02:47:56.000 Alright, give that number out again.
02:47:59.000 0774. 0774.
02:48:01.000 And I've set for trial March the 21st.
02:48:03.000 Lord willing.
02:48:04.000 All right.
02:48:06.000 Give that number out again.
02:48:07.000 423-775-0774.
02:48:13.000 Okay, the number to these district attorneys is 423-775-4468.
02:48:17.000 Yes.
02:48:20.000 I appreciate you coming on.
02:48:22.000 Thank you.
02:48:22.000 When did you say your trial is again for your thought time?
02:48:24.000 March the 21st.
02:48:26.000 March the 21st.
02:48:27.000 Exactly.
02:48:28.000 Alright, so we're going to be there.
02:48:29.000 We're going to try to support you.
02:48:31.000 Try to get some court watchers there to watch these criminals.
02:48:33.000 I appreciate it.
02:48:34.000 You bet.
02:48:35.000 God bless you and we appreciate you coming on, Jim.
02:48:37.000 Tell people to pray.
02:48:38.000 We will be.
02:48:38.000 I'm praying for you.
02:48:39.000 I'm going to pray for you right when we go to break.
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02:52:26.000 Let's talk to Richard in Indiana, then Ron and Matt.
02:52:28.000 Richard, you're on the air.
02:52:30.000 I'm almost dead, amigo.
02:52:31.000 How you doing?
02:52:33.000 Hey.
02:52:34.000 I was just wondering, just on C-SPAN, there's a guy talking about the lady who took the flag down.
02:52:41.000 It's a criminal offense.
02:52:46.000 Somebody was on there saying she deserves it, and let's lock her up for four years for a 50 cent flag!
02:52:51.000 It's a misdemeanor in real law, but we got thought crime laws now!
02:52:56.000 One other thing I need to know, how can we find out more about Marvin Bush?
02:53:02.000 Because I bought the book, Reflections, and it's not in there, Alex.
02:53:07.000 Yes, I have the scan of it.
02:53:09.000 I actually have reflections.
02:53:11.000 There may be a new version of Barbara's book.
02:53:13.000 I know they've done reprintings.
02:53:15.000 They may have taken it out.
02:53:16.000 Yeah, they must have took it out.
02:53:17.000 Is there any way you can tell me what page it would be on?
02:53:20.000 I don't have the book in front of me, but also there's a scan of it online.
02:53:24.000 Sir, it was picked up by two major newspapers that she wrote that.
02:53:28.000 Is that right?
02:53:28.000 You can type in Barbara Bush Reflections.
02:53:32.000 You can find the scan of it and two mainstream news articles.
02:53:32.000 It'll come up.
02:53:35.000 Well, I'll try that.
02:53:37.000 Okay, thank you, Richard.
02:53:38.000 Okay.
02:53:38.000 Ron in Kansas City.
02:53:40.000 Go ahead.
02:53:40.000 Hello?
02:53:42.000 Yes, sir.
02:53:43.000 Yes.
02:53:45.000 I've been listening to you for two hours.
02:53:45.000 Nice hearing you.
02:53:48.000 I believe that before everything else can be changed, the monetary system has got to be changed.
02:53:55.000 And that is happening as we speak.
02:53:57.000 The Federal Reserve has got to be eliminated, and it will be eliminated.
02:54:01.000 Have you ever heard of Leo Wanta?
02:54:06.000 Yeah, I don't buy into it, sir.
02:54:08.000 You don't buy into it?
02:54:10.000 No, but the Federal Reserve is the heart of it, you're right about that, and the private banking system that's running this mass hoax on us.
02:54:19.000 Well, yeah, absolutely.
02:54:21.000 Now, Leo Wanta was the... Ambassador and all that, yeah.
02:54:25.000 Yeah.
02:54:25.000 I know all about it.
02:54:27.000 You don't buy into it?
02:54:28.000 I really don't.
02:54:29.000 I'm not against those that want to cover it.
02:54:31.000 Anybody who says, if you don't believe this, you're one of the evil ones... No.
02:54:35.000 No, no, I mean, other people say that.
02:54:37.000 You must believe in this case.
02:54:39.000 And we've done some research into it, and I've looked at it, and I just don't buy it.
02:54:42.000 Okay, well, that's good enough then.
02:54:44.000 But, but, but, that kind of stuff does go on in government.
02:54:46.000 The AP's reported trillions are missing from the Pentagon.
02:54:50.000 So we've got Bush right there.
02:54:51.000 Well, yeah, there's four and a half trillion that's being dispersed at this point that we're speaking from overseas.
02:54:58.000 No, no, but everybody focuses on that.
02:55:00.000 We can prove that it's now almost four trillion missing from the Pentagon.
02:55:05.000 4.5.
02:55:07.000 Pardon me?
02:55:08.000 No, no, no, sir.
02:55:08.000 4.5.
02:55:10.000 You're confusing the admissions of Pentagon money missing with the claims of Leo Wanta's spokespeople.
02:55:19.000 Okay.
02:55:21.000 Two separate things.
02:55:22.000 Okay.
02:55:24.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.
02:55:25.000 Call me back tomorrow and we'll talk more about it, Ron.
02:55:26.000 Good to hear from you.
02:55:27.000 I guess you're a KCXL listener.
02:55:28.000 Great affiliate.
02:55:29.000 Kansas City.
02:55:30.000 Matt in Virginia.
02:55:31.000 Last caller, go ahead.
02:55:33.000 Yes, I'm calling about them resetting your counter on the Google video.
02:55:36.000 Yes.
02:55:38.000 You know, I know why.
02:55:39.000 Because you are the one with the truth.
02:55:41.000 The reason they don't do it to loose change is the same reason they put pods in their film.
02:55:46.000 Missiles hit the Twin Towers.
02:55:48.000 I mean, they bought every piece of bait.
02:55:51.000 They want that to be seen, because they're going to debunk it, Alex.
02:55:54.000 I've quit giving out loose change.
02:55:56.000 I only give out martial law and terror storm, because you don't buy the bait.
02:56:01.000 You speak from the heart.
02:56:02.000 You only go for things that you can prove, and that's how we're going to win this thing.
02:56:06.000 You know, the first edition did have a few mistakes in it, but the guys mean well.
02:56:10.000 I think the second edition's great.
02:56:12.000 I love them to death.
02:56:13.000 I believe them 100%.
02:56:15.000 But they didn't get you to debate popular mechanics.
02:56:18.000 I mean, they had those two old guys debating kids!
02:56:21.000 Listen, we're out of time.
02:56:23.000 God bless you all.