Alex Jones Show - September 26, 2006


20060926_Tue_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 56 minutes

Words per Minute

176.46292

Word Count

31,131

Sentence Count

2,398

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

Alex Jones interviews a man who claims to have been inside CENTCOM on 9/11. Lero Chavez sent us his military discharge form, which proves that he was in the military on that day, and that he witnessed a top brass order for a stand down.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Big Brother Mainstream media.
00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:10.000 You want answers?
00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000 Yesterday, we interviewed Lero Jones Chavez, or LJ, He sent us his military discharge 214 form.
00:00:44.000 He proved that he did indeed work at CENTCOM on 9-11 and he has reported to us that he saw top brass talking about how they had been ordered to stand down.
00:00:55.000 That they talked to NORAD and were asking why they hadn't intercepted any of the flights and they were told that they were told to stand down.
00:01:04.000 He wrote a letter to the editor two months ago to the Cincinnati Post because he saw a hit piece in the paper against the 9-11 Truth Movement and in it he said who he was and where he worked and that got published and got put out all over the internet and what did the neocons do yesterday when he came on my broadcast and where he made no secret of where he worked in computer engineering, where he worked in computer
00:01:34.000 security engineering the security systems for a company they're calling up telling the company to fire him that's how these people operate they're a bunch of Nazis they can't deal with his story they can't deal with his facts they can't deal with his information and so they're calling up saying you need to fire this traitor I've got his emails here in front of me.
00:02:03.000 I just came into the office about 10 minutes before airtime.
00:02:07.000 I got ready at my house and I saw his emails here.
00:02:10.000 We're going to see if LJ wants to come on via cell phone during his lunch hour for 10-15 minutes.
00:02:18.000 I don't want to keep him too long and talk about what he's going through.
00:02:22.000 I mean, if his story is true and it's checked out so far, this is really, really big.
00:02:31.000 And extremely important.
00:02:34.000 And we have confirmed he was in the military.
00:02:37.000 We have confirmed he was in Central Command.
00:02:41.000 We've independently verified this, not just with his discharge, honorable discharge form.
00:02:47.000 And a lot of people are still, even in the movement, are still in denial about this.
00:02:52.000 They just can't believe that a witness like this has just fallen in our lap.
00:02:56.000 Well, there have been a lot of other witnesses that have fallen into our lap.
00:02:59.000 I mean, Norman Mineta, Transportation Secretary, was on the other end of this in the White House bunker before they moved to Site R later in the day, with Dick Cheney, The plane is 50 miles out.
00:03:12.000 The plane is 30 miles out.
00:03:13.000 It's 20 miles out.
00:03:14.000 It's 10 miles out.
00:03:15.000 Does the order still stand, Vice President?
00:03:18.000 Yes, the order still stands!
00:03:19.000 Have you heard anything to the contrary?
00:03:22.000 And we know that Dick Cheney, two months before 9-11, had taken control of the shoot-down powers that had been in the generals' and their designate colonels' hands ever since NORAD was set up in 1957 for the first time
00:03:40.000 In 40 plus years, for the first time, those powers were taken away, and we know there was a stand-down, and LJ, Lero Chavez, was there, and he says he witnessed Top Brass there talking about how there was an order for a stand-down.
00:04:09.000 And we've had other leaks from inside the Pentagon, inside the military, people that don't want to go public on air.
00:04:14.000 I've gotten the same type of info from others inside the Pentagon, inside NORTHCOM, which was set up before 9-11 by the way.
00:04:23.000 We were covering it big time right before 9-11.
00:04:26.000 We could see the continuity of government system being put in place.
00:04:30.000 And this is a very serious report and so instead of just denying it like many others did, we did research on it.
00:04:36.000 We went right to The person who brought the story forward and talked to them.
00:04:41.000 We'll talk more about this later.
00:04:42.000 I did a surprise interview last night.
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00:07:59.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:08.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:12.000 We have the Army Sergeant on who worked at Central Command.
00:08:22.000 it In Florida on 9-11 and was in the top secret classified areas and was witnessing open discussions by high-level brass about how they've been ordered to stand down.
00:08:36.000 We are vetting the story so far.
00:08:38.000 Every test we put to it has confirmed that Laro Jones Chavez is telling the truth and it meshes with the already available data.
00:08:48.000 We are still vetting it.
00:08:51.000 Since then, the neocons, since he first did a radio interview with us yesterday, an exclusive, he has had the neocons in mass calling his office, because when he wrote the letter to the editor that didn't get any attention two months ago, it's now gotten attention to the Cincinnati Post, he Put where he worked, who he was, his name, his phone number, and so the neocons are doing what they do best.
00:09:16.000 Attempting to silence, trying to get Stephen Jones, the professor, the physicist, fired.
00:09:22.000 Trying to get Kevin Barrett fired.
00:09:24.000 Trying to get me shut down.
00:09:25.000 Openly calling for my arrest on national radio.
00:09:30.000 Openly saying I'm a traitor, that I'm probably Al Qaeda.
00:09:33.000 This is how they operate.
00:09:35.000 They're upset that we're fighting their North American Union.
00:09:38.000 They're upset we're fighting their gun control.
00:09:40.000 They're upset we're fighting their amnesty and open borders.
00:09:43.000 They're upset that we're fighting their phony war of global domination.
00:09:46.000 They're upset that we're exposing trillions missing from the Pentagon.
00:09:49.000 They're upset that we're exposing them as a bunch of phony conservatives that are butchering this country.
00:09:55.000 Hey, traitors!
00:09:56.000 We're not going to stop and we're not going to shut up!
00:09:59.000 Do you understand?
00:10:02.000 So, LJ We'll be joining us coming up for about 10-15 minutes in the next hour.
00:10:09.000 Then we have Celica Stello, former high-level DEA agent, Army Ranger in his own right in Vietnam, police officer, he's done it all.
00:10:19.000 He'll be joining us to talk about a bunch of new developments, how they're using Latin American death squads in Iraq right now.
00:10:26.000 Celica Stello will be in studio with us from about the middle of the next hour into the third hour.
00:10:31.000 Always great to have Sully with us.
00:10:33.000 We have him in the studio several times a year.
00:10:37.000 But right now, you're probably wondering who the big interview was yesterday, last night.
00:10:47.000 I guess there is no rest for the wicked.
00:10:49.000 I don't really think of myself as wicked, but we're all fallen.
00:10:53.000 There is no rest, my friends.
00:10:55.000 I was going to have dinner with my dad who came back into town.
00:11:00.000 With my mom and a cousin.
00:11:02.000 But I was unable to do that last night because at about four o'clock when I was in here doing some research and making some phone calls, we got a phone call from Kinky Friedman's gubernatorial campaign from Laura, his press secretary, really nice person.
00:11:21.000 Very helpful.
00:11:23.000 And we are supporting Kinky's campaign.
00:11:24.000 I think he's better than Strayhorn.
00:11:26.000 She can't be trusted.
00:11:28.000 Look at her past.
00:11:28.000 Just look at her.
00:11:30.000 The Bush is all of it.
00:11:32.000 And I certainly don't support the Democratic candidate.
00:11:35.000 And of course I don't support Rick Toll Road, North American Union, Limp-Wristed Perry.
00:11:43.000 So, Compromised Perry.
00:11:47.000 So we've had Kinky in studio, and so we had told Laura a month ago, three weeks ago, when Kinky Freeman was in studio, that she, they told us, Juford, his campaign manager, Yeah, we've got Jesse Ventura coming in in a few weeks.
00:12:06.000 And of course you know that they're advising us, and his former campaign manager is our chief strategist, our political consultant.
00:12:15.000 And would you like to interview Jesse Ventura?
00:12:19.000 The former governor of Minnesota, the famous Navy SEAL, the professional wrestler, the movie star of Predator, and The Running Man, two of my favorite movies.
00:12:32.000 I tried to get in touch with Jesse Ventura about a year ago, but he was just at that time leaving his sabbatical at Harvard and he moved to Baja, Mexico.
00:12:46.000 He's kind of retiring down there, I guess.
00:12:49.000 What is he, like 56 years old now?
00:12:53.000 And just surfing and lifting weights and working out.
00:12:56.000 That's what I read in the press.
00:12:57.000 So I talked to a few contacts who personally know him or are friends with him in Minnesota.
00:13:00.000 And they said, yeah, he's down in Mexico.
00:13:02.000 You really can't even get a hold of him.
00:13:04.000 So I get this call yesterday and they said, well, you can get like 15 minutes at his hotel with him tonight.
00:13:14.000 They were staying at the Manger.
00:13:16.000 Famous hotel where the Rough Riders met and planned the invasion and the staged war with Spain started in Cuba, Havana Harbor.
00:13:25.000 That's where Teddy Roosevelt met.
00:13:27.000 I've actually eaten and had drinks there at the Manger.
00:13:32.000 What was it?
00:13:33.000 About 8 or 9 months ago we had the Watsons here in town.
00:13:37.000 They came visiting and I took them to see the Alamo and we went into the Manger.
00:13:43.000 They wanted a beer.
00:13:43.000 You know those evil Brits drink.
00:13:47.000 Beautiful place.
00:13:47.000 But again, I'm digressing here my friends.
00:13:50.000 As usual, I haven't had much sleep.
00:13:53.000 And I just knew.
00:13:54.000 I knew that if they were going to go to this big bar restaurant called the Flying Saucer, they've got all these thousands of plates on the walls, or hundreds, it's like a joke, that's why they call it the Flying Saucer.
00:14:05.000 Nothing to do with flying saucers themselves.
00:14:08.000 You know, the classical flying saucer with little green men you think of.
00:14:12.000 And I knew, I said, if they were going to supposedly get there at 5.30, and of course they got there late because they'd been speaking at a packed house at a university there in San Antonio, thousands I just knew that they would get tired and want me to do it at the hotel.
00:14:29.000 I wanted to get it there on the spot.
00:14:32.000 So we show up about 6.30.
00:14:33.000 We leave here about 5.00.
00:14:34.000 We show up about 6.30 in San Antonio.
00:14:36.000 I drive like a maniac through traffic to get there like it was the Indy 500.
00:14:40.000 I get there and it's hurry up and wait.
00:14:42.000 There's about 600 people just in the line in this huge restaurant bar lined up wanting to shake hands and get autographs with Jesse Ventura and Kinky Friedman.
00:14:57.000 And I'm sitting there the whole time, and I know Paul Watson's taking notes right now.
00:15:03.000 I don't want to put this in the article with all these little details that would just clutter it up.
00:15:07.000 I guess the headline should be something like, Former Governor Jesse Ventura Questions Official 9-11 Story.
00:15:22.000 And then under it, points out or Some turn of the phrase, sounds good.
00:15:31.000 Points to Operation Northwoods, or points to, points towards, points to Gulf of Tonkin, dash, Operation Northwoods, dash, NORAD Stand Down.
00:15:48.000 And then go into the body of the article, and let me just, as best I can, go over the interview.
00:15:55.000 So I'm there for I guess until about 9.30 at night.
00:16:02.000 Well, it had to be over a thousand people went through there.
00:16:05.000 It was about 600 at one time lined up, and the line just kept replenishing itself.
00:16:09.000 So basically it was hurry up and wait, and I'm sitting there talking to Jewford, his campaign manager, and we're all just standing around.
00:16:15.000 It's a great crowd of people, very diverse crowd, you know, populist there.
00:16:19.000 And I just knew Ventura had seen my documentaries.
00:16:27.000 I would feel somebody looking at me.
00:16:28.000 I'd be sitting there in my chair.
00:16:30.000 Every time I'd turn around, Ventura was looking at me.
00:16:32.000 This guy is something else in person, by the way.
00:16:35.000 He's pretty menacing.
00:16:38.000 He's got quite a presence.
00:16:39.000 You know how it is when somebody's looking at you.
00:16:43.000 You feel it.
00:16:44.000 Especially when they've got a presence.
00:16:45.000 I kept turning.
00:16:46.000 All night long, Ventura... Don't put this in the article.
00:16:49.000 This is just for listeners.
00:16:51.000 Ventura is just continually staring at me, and I don't want to go up to him with a big crowd and say, hey, I'm interviewing you later.
00:16:56.000 I just had Juford and Kinky go over and say, hey, this is Alex Jones.
00:17:00.000 He's a good guy.
00:17:00.000 We did an interview, and they said, will you do it at the hotel?
00:17:03.000 And he said, fine.
00:17:04.000 And I just said, all right, we'll talk to you later.
00:17:07.000 The whole time, there's all this other TV and radios all there, a whole bunch of cameras.
00:17:11.000 He's not looking at them, he keeps looking at me, obviously, because he knows about 9-11.
00:17:14.000 He's on record already questioning 9-11.
00:17:17.000 On Jay Leno, briefly, just saying, hey, we're being lied to about a lot of things, 9-11, you name it, just question.
00:17:22.000 On a radio show interview last year, 2005, he brought up NORAD and said, I've got questions about that.
00:17:29.000 But he's never gone as far as he did last night.
00:17:32.000 With us.
00:17:34.000 And I knew he was holding back once I actually interviewed him.
00:17:38.000 But I appreciate him doing the interview.
00:17:40.000 There's this little bitty manager's office.
00:17:44.000 You know how these big restaurants slash bars are.
00:17:46.000 They'll still have this.
00:17:47.000 It'd be a huge facility to have this tiny little office that you can fit about four people in like sardines.
00:17:53.000 So this big old six foot six, 300 pound Ventura.
00:18:02.000 He's done.
00:18:03.000 I said, hey, you want to take a break in the bathroom or something?
00:18:05.000 You've been up there for four hours.
00:18:06.000 He said, no, let's just do it right now.
00:18:08.000 So we go back there in the back room.
00:18:11.000 We set him down, we aimed the cameras at him, we've already got it all set up, got the lights set up.
00:18:17.000 I think, I mean, I was thinking this and after the interview we're driving down the road and they go, man, he seemed like he was freaked out by you.
00:18:23.000 I could tell he was holding back, he wanted to say more.
00:18:27.000 And I got him in the chair, you just had to see it.
00:18:31.000 What I'm going to do is I'm going to put out a quick edit compilation, a short video, it's a 25 minute interview.
00:18:37.000 I'm going to put out like a short 8, 9, 10 minute one tonight.
00:18:40.000 And then in the next few days, we'll put out the whole interview.
00:18:47.000 And it was incredible.
00:18:49.000 It was incredible.
00:18:50.000 And you could see him sitting there struggling with wanting to say more.
00:18:55.000 I brought up Jay Leno first, and I said, well, back in May of 2003, you were on Jay Leno, and you jumped up out of your chair.
00:19:06.000 I'm trying to find the audio of this.
00:19:08.000 I remember seeing it.
00:19:10.000 I have the dickens of a time finding it online.
00:19:12.000 Maybe you guys can help us out there in radio land?
00:19:18.000 Then go post it on my MySpace account or email it to tips at InfoWars.com or Aaron at InfoWars.com.
00:19:25.000 But he was, let me just give you some background.
00:19:27.000 He was on Jay Leno and to paraphrase what he said, Jay Leno is just talking about some other subject.
00:19:33.000 When we get back I'll tell you about it.
00:19:37.000 And we've got the little blurbs, the little comedy made on a radio show, but he said a lot more.
00:19:41.000 He brought up Northwoods.
00:19:43.000 He brought up Gulf of Tonkin.
00:19:46.000 He brought it all up together.
00:19:50.000 And it was, uh, it's important.
00:19:52.000 I mean, Jesse Ventura, question this official 9-11 story.
00:19:56.000 We'll go over it when we get back.
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00:24:06.000 All right, my friends, here is the long and short of the Jesse... - The Mind Ventura interview, the unexpected interview that materialized at about 4.15 yesterday.
00:24:21.000 We again jumped in the car, shot down to San Antonio, hurry up and wait.
00:24:24.000 And then I just thought, you know, I'm not going to try to go to his hotel and do this.
00:24:27.000 He's going to be too tired.
00:24:28.000 I said, let's just do this here.
00:24:31.000 So we changed plans, I went and asked the manager, went back, got their tiny office, shut up, right when he went off stage after hours of really, it was really friendly, he spent like 10 minutes with some people up there talking to him, most people he spent about a minute with, but it just, I mean really nice compared to a lot of celebrities I've seen who go to these meet and greet events.
00:24:52.000 And so he shuffles into the back with us, sits down, I go right into, hey I've heard you've questioned 9-11.
00:25:00.000 And he said, well, I don't remember exactly saying that on Jay Leno.
00:25:04.000 And I said, well, you did.
00:25:06.000 And he said, yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I do have questions.
00:25:10.000 Yes, I do.
00:25:11.000 And then he went on, and this is the basic key points of what he said.
00:25:14.000 And this is what's important.
00:25:17.000 He never talked about Northwoods.
00:25:19.000 Not on Jay Leno, not on the other radio interview he did.
00:25:23.000 He said, well, Operation Northwoods, our own government in the early 60s, plan to kill our own people and blame it on foreign enemies for war and I serve this country and it's just it's so painful to know that they would do something like that to bring us into a false war.
00:25:39.000 And he went on to talk more about Operation Northwoods.
00:25:42.000 Then he brought up of course the Gulf of Tonkin saying that we now know that that was completely staged.
00:25:50.000 Our ships weren't attacked.
00:25:51.000 That was another lie to get us into a war.
00:25:54.000 And basically a recap of, you know, he lost friends in that war and it was just really upsetting to know that he joined the Navy and went into the Navy SEALs on September 11th, 1969 as a volunteer to go fight in a war that later he learned was totally staged and was a lie!
00:26:13.000 And he went on to say that the Vietnamese were always going to win because they were fighting for their freedom and we were fighting against their freedom.
00:26:20.000 But he said if we could have a Gulf of Tonkin And have them lie and it worked then and brought us to war.
00:26:28.000 Why wouldn't they stage something again today to bring us into war if it worked before?
00:26:35.000 Pretty important.
00:26:36.000 That's a paraphrase.
00:26:37.000 But that's basically what he said.
00:26:40.000 Was that it worked before and so why wouldn't it work again?
00:26:44.000 And that's why he was questioning 9-11.
00:26:46.000 Was Operation Northwoods and then knowing the Gulf of Tonkin was staged to get us full bore into the Vietnam War.
00:26:54.000 And then he brought up Payne Stewart that within a half hour, and it's really less than that, of them finding out the plane was off course, they had F-16 fighters on the wing of that depressurized small jet.
00:27:13.000 Private passenger jet.
00:27:16.000 And then he talked about how when you give up liberty, you get tyranny.
00:27:19.000 I said, well, is it good that our government says give up liberty and you get security?
00:27:24.000 He said, yeah, of course, that's horrible.
00:27:25.000 You shouldn't trust them.
00:27:27.000 They lie to us continually.
00:27:30.000 But he went much further.
00:27:32.000 I mean, he stuck his toe in the water before.
00:27:36.000 On 9-11, saying, hey, we've been lied to in the past.
00:27:40.000 Don't believe what you're hearing now.
00:27:42.000 Be skeptical.
00:27:43.000 We got lied to about Golf of Tonkin.
00:27:45.000 Don't trust 9-11.
00:27:47.000 That's what he basically said in a nutshell on Jay Leno.
00:27:50.000 And he got up, stood up, was all emotional about it.
00:27:52.000 And he said, you know, they know who I am.
00:27:54.000 They know where I live.
00:27:55.000 They can come get me if they want.
00:27:57.000 And he said something similar to that in the interview.
00:27:59.000 He seemed upset.
00:28:00.000 He was saying, you know, I spent Four years in the military, most of it in Vietnam.
00:28:08.000 I spent time as a mayor and then time as a governor.
00:28:14.000 I've served 14 years for this country.
00:28:18.000 And he said, I'm down in Mexico now and I'm surfing and I'm running and I'm lifting weights.
00:28:22.000 And he did look good compared to when he was governor.
00:28:25.000 He was a little chubby.
00:28:25.000 I mean, he was just He was wearing a baggy t-shirt.
00:28:29.000 I was in there standing over him in the interview.
00:28:30.000 I looked at his chest.
00:28:31.000 It was just rippled, solid muscle.
00:28:34.000 Super good shape for a 56-year-old man.
00:28:37.000 And he looks totally wild now.
00:28:40.000 He's got black dreadlocks and a Captain Morgan pirate beard.
00:28:46.000 And he just came right out and said, look, I've served.
00:28:49.000 I said, well, shouldn't there be another investigation on 9-11?
00:28:51.000 He goes, well, the first one wasn't independent.
00:28:54.000 Oh, that was another thing.
00:28:56.000 You know, he said, well the first one isn't independent, appointed by Bush, and so what makes you think they'll ever be an independent one?
00:29:03.000 Has there ever been a real independent investigation?
00:29:06.000 I said, I guess there hasn't.
00:29:07.000 He goes, well there's your answer, you're not going to get one.
00:29:10.000 And so he was fighting back in 2003, it seemed like he was more angry, and now he's just like, basically, he said the American people are apathetic, and a lot of my criticism rests on them letting this happen to the country.
00:29:26.000 And he just said, I'm surfing, and uh, you know what?
00:29:33.000 Basically he was saying they'll come get me.
00:29:36.000 He was just saying, look man!
00:29:38.000 I mean, they're doing this interview, obviously I questioned the official story.
00:29:42.000 Northwoods, Tonkin, NORAD, stand down.
00:29:47.000 What do you want from me?
00:29:51.000 We're on the march.
00:29:53.000 The Empire's on the run.
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00:32:58.000 Coming up about 20 minutes into the next hour, we're going to have Marcella Costello in the studio.
00:33:22.000 She was an army sniper in Vietnam, then went into the sheriff's department down on the Texas border, was a police officer, Peace Officer, and then of course got recruited into the DEA, was the head DEA agent in Latin America, and witnessed government narcotics trafficking and a lot more, but he's going to be tying it into Negroponte and the People's Administration today.
00:33:43.000 Latin American death squads they've hired to take over to Iraq and other places, and he's going to be giving a speech here in Central Texas very soon, so he's also here to promote that.
00:33:55.000 We have Larro Joan Chavez, or LJ as he's known, Joining us, we had him on yesterday to talk about how he worked in CENTCOM on 9-11 Central Command there in Tampa and what he witnessed.
00:34:13.000 The brass talking about how they've been ordered to stand down amongst other things.
00:34:17.000 The brass standing around going, look at those buildings, they have bombs in them.
00:34:21.000 Just an amazing interview.
00:34:22.000 He's going to join us with a few of the things he didn't have time to talk about yesterday and to talk about how the neocons are calling up his work.
00:34:29.000 Trying to get him fired.
00:34:31.000 That's how they operate.
00:34:33.000 That's what they do.
00:34:36.000 We're going to boycott you.
00:34:39.000 We want you to fire him.
00:34:44.000 It's amazing.
00:34:47.000 I do have some other observations about my interview last night with Jesse Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, the former Hollywood star, the former Navy shield from the Vietnam era.
00:34:58.000 There are a few other observations and things he said.
00:35:01.000 Paul's going to write an article about it today that will be out tonight.
00:35:07.000 And we're going to stay late here at the office with the footage we've got.
00:35:11.000 We're capturing it right now.
00:35:13.000 And we've got to edit it and we've got to upload it and convert it and do all this stuff.
00:35:18.000 But it should be up there.
00:35:21.000 A short version, probably ten minutes long tonight, and in the next few days we'll put most of the interview up and some of the outside interview.
00:35:28.000 We also interviewed him outside.
00:35:29.000 He said some things outside that were pretty interesting.
00:35:33.000 There's a lot of stuff I haven't covered yet.
00:35:34.000 In fact, after we talk to Debbie here in just a moment, I'm going to write some notes here in my mind about some of the other facets we haven't gotten into.
00:35:45.000 But it's a big deal!
00:35:46.000 Jesse Ventura!
00:35:49.000 Questioning the official 9-11 story.
00:35:52.000 I want to say my crew did a great job on short notice going down there with me to cover that.
00:35:58.000 Ventura today at one o'clock at Southwest Texas in San Marcos will be speaking with Kinky Friedman again in one of the big student halls.
00:36:07.000 If you go to Kinky Friedman's website you can find out exactly which hall and where.
00:36:11.000 Then from there they go to Houston for an event tonight and then Ventura goes back to Mexico tomorrow.
00:36:23.000 So you've got a chance to go see Ventura and talk to him today down in San Marcos in just an hour and 24 minutes from now.
00:36:37.000 Also, Paul Watson wrote a very important article yesterday that I hope you'll help us get all over the internet.
00:36:43.000 It's there in the general news section on the main page of PrisonPlanet.com.
00:36:47.000 It's up on Infowars.com.
00:36:49.000 One of the top stories as well.
00:36:53.000 About a month and a half ago we uploaded a high-quality version of TerrorStorm to Google Video for free.
00:37:02.000 That's our goal here, to get the information out.
00:37:04.000 Great listeners, within one day of my LA conference though, before we had even put the film out officially, got the Symposium version that was a little bit longer and wasn't as tightly edited or frankly as... Well, it's a collector's item.
00:37:21.000 I don't want to say it's not as good, it's just different.
00:37:24.000 And they had uploaded it in low quality to Google Video and that was the one that had gotten most of the traffic.
00:37:31.000 I mean, there were something like 20-something bad versions up there that people had encoded themselves or uploaded wrong.
00:37:38.000 I mean, it didn't look bad, just a little bit fuzzy.
00:37:40.000 It wasn't as good as the version we uploaded.
00:37:44.000 And, uh, but of all those versions, there's 20 plus versions up there, one would have 200 and something thousand and download it at 180,000, 170, 150, 140, 130 something, you know, 80,000, 20,000, 10,000.
00:37:59.000 Our high quality version, I started a couple weeks ago saying, hey folks, go to my high quality version.
00:38:07.000 Well, obviously, that's not the way the web works.
00:38:10.000 Whatever gets picked up first is what gets the biggest.
00:38:13.000 All those other versions were getting watched a bunch and ours had gotten only up to about 65,000 as of last Friday.
00:38:21.000 And I was frustrated because if you're going to put something out for free, you might as well put something good out for free to have the most effect.
00:38:27.000 And, you've already heard the story, but it's important I need to recap it and add a few new developments.
00:38:34.000 So I get into the KLBJ Studios Sunday, a couple hours before getting ready for my Sunday radio show.
00:38:39.000 And I go to the version we've uploaded, and I go, oh, let me see of our big push.
00:38:44.000 We wrote a story inviting people to go get the high-quality version.
00:38:49.000 And I go, and it's reset at like a 2,000.
00:38:52.000 And I look, it's the same file as the file we put up there.
00:38:57.000 Everything's been erased.
00:38:58.000 It's ranking has been erased.
00:39:00.000 It had gotten into the Google Top 100.
00:39:02.000 It had gotten into the Google Favorites.
00:39:04.000 And once you get into those, the tens of millions of people a day that are going and watching videos there.
00:39:09.000 It's like a hundred and something million a month now.
00:39:11.000 It's ridiculous.
00:39:13.000 They all see that and then boom!
00:39:15.000 Once you get in the Top 100, if it's a good film, you go to the top.
00:39:18.000 Okay?
00:39:19.000 See?
00:39:20.000 That's what Loose Change did.
00:39:21.000 It had a phenomenal phenomenon in this country.
00:39:26.000 Well, guess what?
00:39:29.000 They had wiped it out.
00:39:31.000 They had knocked it down to zero.
00:39:32.000 And by the time I looked at it, it had gone up to a thousand or so.
00:39:37.000 And since then, it's like 70-something thousand right now.
00:39:40.000 And the versions that have been downloaded, 200-something thousand times.
00:39:48.000 It was well over two million a week ago.
00:39:50.000 I never had a chance to count up what it had gotten to now.
00:39:55.000 But millions and millions of downloads had gotten into the favorites, gotten into the top 100, gone.
00:40:00.000 They cheated us, you see.
00:40:03.000 If it's a level playing field, we can win, we can beat the New World Order, but Google has moved in with the NSA, they've moved in with NASA, their headquarters.
00:40:13.000 Their other big headquarters is going to Tel Aviv.
00:40:16.000 Why all our telecommunications and NSA systems are run by Israel, I mean, I'll never know.
00:40:23.000 Literally, 97% of the phone calls are routed through Israeli companies.
00:40:27.000 They know all the caller ID, White House security is run by an Israeli company, all their encryption, that's why they blackmail.
00:40:33.000 Side issue, the point is, Google has this motto, don't be evil, and I saw a listener on a message board on MySpace saying, yeah, their new motto is be evil and Make people think you're good, basically, is their motto.
00:40:48.000 And we've caught them when our Charlie Sheen story is on Drudge Report and everywhere and get millions of hits.
00:40:53.000 That's what drives stuff on the web.
00:40:54.000 You know, a week later, it's the Charlie Sheen story isn't on Google Web, much less Google News.
00:41:00.000 Then we complain that we're not on Google News, and then they let certain stories go through but not others.
00:41:06.000 That's not how Google News works.
00:41:08.000 When you're a Google News affiliate, all your stuff goes on to Google News.
00:41:12.000 No, not ours.
00:41:12.000 Now we're completely off Google News again, and we know they are selectively got filters set, manipulating what you can see of the work we've done.
00:41:24.000 And Google is bigger now than Yahoo when it comes to search engines.
00:41:27.000 It's number two on the web now.
00:41:30.000 It's about to supplant Yahoo.
00:41:32.000 And Yahoo does similar stuff.
00:41:33.000 And Google and Yahoo both went to China and they both did deals agreeing to censor and control and to report people and not let free speech go on.
00:41:43.000 And so they're doing it there.
00:41:44.000 They're sure as heck going to do it here.
00:41:48.000 In fact, they run their Google China out of Silicon Valley.
00:41:54.000 And so right here in America, in those very same offices, they're doing that.
00:41:58.000 And now they're doing it to us.
00:42:00.000 And it's frustrating, because we would be able to clean the New World Order's clocks.
00:42:07.000 Yeah, I mean, in the past, we said, you have to get the DVD.
00:42:09.000 Or you have to be a PrisonPlanet.tv member.
00:42:12.000 Because we can't put it out for free and pay for the bandwidth.
00:42:15.000 If we ever could, we'd put it out for free.
00:42:18.000 And we have the opportunity now with Google Video.
00:42:20.000 And so we did what we said we'd do.
00:42:22.000 The goal here is to defeat the globalists.
00:42:26.000 To save this country.
00:42:28.000 We're going to go to Debbie in a minute.
00:42:29.000 I've just got to make this key point.
00:42:33.000 And so we go, we make the film, we do it, we get out there in the competition, out there in the marketplace of ideas.
00:42:40.000 We start winning.
00:42:42.000 And we run a touchdown.
00:42:43.000 We're about to run another touchdown.
00:42:46.000 And we've got the momentum, and they say, stop!
00:42:48.000 We're taking your points off the board.
00:42:50.000 You've got to start over.
00:42:52.000 Well, you know what?
00:42:52.000 We are going to start over.
00:42:54.000 And it doesn't matter how many times you knock our ranking down, but probably next step will just be completely take the videos off, and they have been jerking some for some reason.
00:43:02.000 Fine.
00:43:03.000 You go ahead and you just try that.
00:43:05.000 I guarantee you our listeners now are going to get angry.
00:43:07.000 And they're going to go get the high-quality version off of PrisonPlanet.com, the high-quality link to the Google video, and you're going to post it, and you're going to email it, and you're going to tell everybody about it, because we're not going to let them get away with this.
00:43:20.000 You understand?
00:43:20.000 By knocking our ranking down, we don't go into the top 100 and their main page that has, what is it, 100 million people a month plus going to it.
00:43:29.000 See how that works?
00:43:31.000 They can't let us win.
00:43:32.000 They're trying to regulate the web.
00:43:34.000 They're trying to sneak around and censor.
00:43:36.000 They're trying to get rid of net neutrality.
00:43:37.000 They're saying the web will be dead within two years as we know it.
00:43:40.000 That's the official line out of their own documents.
00:43:43.000 The mainstream media says 2010 with Internet 2.
00:43:49.000 And we've got to strike while the iron's hot, okay?
00:43:52.000 We've got YouTube.
00:43:53.000 We've got Google Video right now.
00:43:55.000 And people keep telling me, well you should just put your thing on YouTube.
00:43:58.000 You know, they don't censor us bad.
00:44:00.000 Well, number one, that's not true.
00:44:02.000 And number two, we did break it into, what, 10 different, or it's more than that, it's like 11 or 12 different 10-minute segments on YouTube.
00:44:13.000 We did do that at the same time.
00:44:16.000 We encoded, we broke it in 10-minute parts, and yes, it's up there.
00:44:20.000 Okay?
00:44:22.000 It is there.
00:44:23.000 We did do that.
00:44:24.000 I mean, I pay people to sit there for hours encoding video up to YouTube to then put it out for free.
00:44:31.000 You understand?
00:44:33.000 And I'm not tooting my own horn.
00:44:35.000 I'm just doing my job.
00:44:36.000 I'm doing what I'm supposed to here.
00:44:39.000 We've got murdering terrorists that are in control of our country that are sure to stage more terror attacks if we don't expose them.
00:44:44.000 I'm trying to save lives here.
00:44:46.000 And I think I need you guys and gals, I know most of you do have your heads screwed on straight, so many more than I, to really realize that we're hurting them, but that they're fighting back, and that I need you to fight them harder than ever right now.
00:44:58.000 Now is the time.
00:45:00.000 This isn't a joke, it isn't a game, it isn't a drill.
00:45:04.000 If we can get twenty, thirty million people, already several million, to download it just on Google Video alone, it will become a phenomenon, it will have a massive cultural effect.
00:45:16.000 Okay?
00:45:17.000 And it's already doing that, so they cheat us!
00:45:20.000 They can't fight us fair and square.
00:45:20.000 They cheat us!
00:45:23.000 The people want the truth, and so they do stuff like this.
00:45:25.000 So there's another way to get around them.
00:45:27.000 Go get the high-quality DVDs from InfoWars.com or call toll-free 888-253-3139 and make copies off the DVD.
00:45:35.000 It's a lot more effective than the web.
00:45:38.000 And yes, PrisonPlanet.TV has it in super high quality, even better than what we have on Google.
00:45:42.000 And I call it high quality on Google.
00:45:44.000 They still downgrade it for bandwidth, but it's pretty darn good.
00:45:48.000 But you get everything with PrisonPlanet.TV, so please be members.
00:45:52.000 Please continue your memberships.
00:45:53.000 Go look at everything we have to offer there, because we do need your funds to continue here.
00:45:57.000 All right?
00:45:57.000 It's that simple.
00:45:59.000 Let's go to a great sponsor for about four minutes, and we'll go to break, come back, and take a few calls, and then we'll get our Mr. Chavez on with an update on what he's going through now since he went public on what he saw in CENTCOM on 9-11.
00:46:12.000 We've got Celica Stello joining us as well, my good friend.
00:46:16.000 And I'll tell you more about my Jesse Ventura interview last night.
00:46:19.000 Tomorrow we'll be airing clips of it here on air.
00:46:22.000 We'll just air the whole thing and snip out a few of the profanities.
00:46:28.000 And then it'll be up on the web.
00:46:31.000 It should be up on the web tonight.
00:46:32.000 But going to Debbie Morrow.
00:46:33.000 Debbie, thanks for holding for 10 minutes while I was ranting.
00:46:36.000 Good to talk to you.
00:46:37.000 Alex, thank you for having me and I didn't think you were ranting at all.
00:46:41.000 I really am glad that I get to hear once in a while what's going on.
00:46:48.000 And so, thank you for having me.
00:46:50.000 I appreciate it very much.
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00:54:13.000 Yeah, I'm sure that when we put this Jesse Ventura video out, and when we put an article out, it'll get linked all over, it'll get millions of readers, and that's what drives stuff at the top.
00:54:24.000 And it won't be on Google Web probably for weeks, and it'll never be on Google News.
00:54:31.000 But the way we get around Google is all these other Google News affiliates pick up our news and then it gets in there that way.
00:54:38.000 So we thank all those folks that do that.
00:54:40.000 I mean, Google literally is our world today in news and information and data.
00:54:47.000 And it's a big deal to be blocked by them, and I'm getting sick of it.
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00:55:51.000 Ed in Utah.
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00:55:52.000 You're on the air.
00:55:53.000 Welcome.
00:55:54.000 Good to talk to you again, Alex.
00:55:56.000 Listen, as you know, of course, Professor Jones is still on paid leave here.
00:56:02.000 But people should know the timing of this.
00:56:04.000 It was just days after both Bush and Chemical Rummy were in town, of course, pushing their crap here.
00:56:13.000 Obviously, they used some pull there with the Board of Regents to get the job done.
00:56:17.000 on Professor Jones, but not but a couple weeks later, I think you're aware now that American Free Press reporter, Chris Bolin, of course, was beaten up there outside of Chicago.
00:56:28.000 Are you gonna do anything on that, Alex? - You know, I like the reporting of Christopher Bolin, but when people run with folks that have savaged myself and my family, I'd never attack back.
00:56:45.000 I just, like a gentleman, let people spit and stomp and defecate all over me, and I just, like a gentleman, and so I've been demonized even locally for being a gentleman, I just sit there and I just take it.
00:56:58.000 But I respect you enough, Ed, and I want to create some controversy.
00:57:02.000 This show's about news and information.
00:57:05.000 I've had Bolin on before as a guest.
00:57:08.000 But I don't want to get into the conversations I've had with Bolin, the things.
00:57:13.000 I don't want to create some news.
00:57:14.000 It'll just love it.
00:57:15.000 And so I turn the other cheek.
00:57:17.000 Well, just to let you know, everybody there at the American Free Press that I've seen write about you and things that go on in your program has been positive.
00:57:24.000 I love American, listen, I love American Free Press, I know the editors, I know most of their writers, I love Jim Tucker, I'm not talking about American Free Press.
00:57:32.000 I have nothing against Bo Linn either.
00:57:35.000 I just, I mean, I don't want to get off into a bunch of stuff, man, but You know, my God, I've been savaged by some people with just made up stuff and people decided to lend credibility to it by running with them, so I can't run with people that run with those type of folks.
00:57:50.000 One last thing Alex, when you have some important facts that I think, what I'd like to hear vetted out on your show, like Yeah, he is blackmailed by the Israelis and the Chinese.
00:57:59.000 I know.
00:58:00.000 I'm on new films about it.
00:58:00.000 I know.
00:58:01.000 Nightmailed by the Israelis and the Chinese.
00:58:02.000 There you go.
00:58:03.000 But John McCain's dad, Admiral McCain, covered up for what the Israelis did deliberately to the USS Liberty.
00:58:09.000 I know.
00:58:09.000 He killed 34 of our guys.
00:58:10.000 My new film's about it.
00:58:11.000 Well, there you go, Alex.
00:58:13.000 Anyway, good job.
00:58:14.000 And I'm hoping that, like I say, both entities, you and American Free Press, are vital to taking back our country.
00:58:21.000 I think they are.
00:58:23.000 It's just that, well, listen, I appreciate your call.
00:58:28.000 You know, it's simple, folks.
00:58:30.000 I, uh... Yeah, we wrote an article about Bolin and we posted it.
00:58:35.000 We said it was horrible and the cops beat him up.
00:58:37.000 That's what we do.
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00:58:49.000 More.
00:58:52.000 Big Brother.
00:58:58.000 Mainstream media.
00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.
00:59:02.000 You want answers?
00:59:03.000 Well, so does he.
00:59:04.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:15.000 He'll be with us for the next 20 minutes.
00:59:17.000 He joined us yesterday for close to an hour.
00:59:20.000 We don't want to impose on his time.
00:59:22.000 He just got off of his lunch hour.
00:59:27.000 At the company he works at there in Ohio in network and computer security.
00:59:32.000 We have confirmed that Lauro Jones Chavez was honorably discharged from the Army as a sergeant.
00:59:40.000 He did work at Central Command in Tampa.
00:59:45.000 He did work in the secure areas.
00:59:48.000 He was there on 9-11.
00:59:51.000 And we're continuing to vet his story but I wanted to give you an update and recap some of the things he covered yesterday and let him cover any other facets that weren't detailed here for you.
01:00:03.000 And then Selle Castillo will be joining us in studio coming up in 20 minutes to cover a whole host of other issues.
01:00:09.000 We will have open phones for those that are patiently holding.
01:00:11.000 But I got this email about how he's getting a lot of flack from his bosses about the radio show.
01:00:17.000 And they're getting lots of phone calls from angry New World Order types, saying that you should get rid of this guy, why would you hire a crackpot, I'll never do business with you, on and on and on, trying to silence free speech, trying to go out for somebody trying to silence free speech, trying to go out for somebody because Laro, or LJ as he's known, wrote a letter to the Cincinnati Post just saying, here's my name, here's my number, here's what I do, here's where I work, this is what I did on
01:00:49.000 And it got out on the web, and we interviewed him, and now this is how the neocons operate.
01:00:54.000 So we really appreciate your courage, LJ, and we appreciate you coming on with us.
01:00:59.000 Oh, sure.
01:00:59.000 It's my pleasure, Alex.
01:01:00.000 Thank you for having me again.
01:01:01.000 Hey, are you excited, or I guess I didn't tell you off air earlier, I interviewed Jesse Ventura about 9-11 last night.
01:01:09.000 Oh, I heard.
01:01:10.000 My close friend came over and saw me and was like, guess what?
01:01:14.000 Jesse Ventura spoke out last night.
01:01:16.000 I was like, sweet!
01:01:18.000 Yeah, it's exciting.
01:01:20.000 I mean, he just said, I questioned the official story, and he brought up Northwoods, Tonkin, and the NORAD stand-down.
01:01:26.000 But we'll be putting that on the web tonight, and we'll play it tomorrow here on air, some of that interview.
01:01:32.000 But what are the neocons doing?
01:01:34.000 I guess they're trying to do what they did to Professor Jones, to you.
01:01:37.000 I guess.
01:01:37.000 I mean, you know, it's funny, because the first time I did this, I feared for, you know, I thought, well, The government's going to come shoot me in my sleep, and you know, I don't really fear death because there are things much worse than death.
01:01:48.000 Like, now I'm having to defend my character and, you know, my job.
01:01:53.000 But, you know, I got asked yesterday, you know, what's going on?
01:01:57.000 We're getting, like, lots of calls, lots of email.
01:01:59.000 I mean, because, you know, my company's address was on there, I guess now we're starting to get, like, proliferated with spam and just, you know, lots of things.
01:02:07.000 And people calling in, you know, calling me an idiot and a crackpot.
01:02:11.000 You know, like you said, telling, you know, asking the company why they'd even hire somebody like me, you know, and, and, you know, people, you know, doing just like, you know, 9-11 bloggers just, I, it's ridiculous, I mean, it really is, I mean, you know, they, I understand that people want to question things, but they're like, you know, we research Dominate, there's no ex-military there.
01:02:27.000 Well, that's completely untrue, I mean, you know, you have my DD-214, I mean, I, that's like privacy information that I gave to you just so I can, You know, prove who I am.
01:02:36.000 I'm getting emails like, he said military time then added AM to it.
01:02:41.000 Pure proof it's not true.
01:02:43.000 We did the research.
01:02:44.000 You were in the military.
01:02:45.000 You were honorably discharged.
01:02:47.000 You are who you say you are.
01:02:48.000 There's photos of you on the web.
01:02:50.000 I don't know, you know, what people want.
01:02:54.000 I mean, we're going to continue to vet.
01:02:55.000 I mean, we wrote a story yesterday before I'd even looked.
01:02:58.000 Paul had already written a story questioning, but he was just covering others questioning.
01:03:02.000 And said, we're going to do research.
01:03:03.000 Well, we did do research, but what about Norman Mineta?
01:03:07.000 What about all the other witnesses of the stand down?
01:03:09.000 No, no, this is powerful info, and I don't blame people wanting to vet it, but then when they start doing mental somersaults and all these weird gyrations to try to disprove what happened, it's pretty serious.
01:03:24.000 I mean, you put yourself out there.
01:03:26.000 You put who you are, where you work, what you do out there, and you're under a lot of pressure over this.
01:03:30.000 We need to stand with you.
01:03:32.000 Stay there, LJ.
01:03:33.000 We're going to be right back after this quick break and do one more segment, okay?
01:03:37.000 Okay.
01:03:37.000 You got time to do that?
01:03:39.000 Absolutely, sir.
01:03:40.000 Okay, fantastic.
01:03:41.000 We appreciate you coming on with us.
01:03:43.000 We're getting a report out on his interview with us yesterday.
01:03:45.000 That will be out sometime this afternoon as well.
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01:07:02.000 Later in this hour, I will succinctly recap my interview last night with Jesse Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, the former highly decorated Navy SEAL, the Hollywood actor, the ridiculous wrestler.
01:07:18.000 He gave us an interview.
01:07:20.000 It was supposed to be a ten minute interview.
01:07:21.000 He sat for about I'd say about twenty minutes, about five minutes, getting him shut up and ready.
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01:07:34.000 Nope!
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01:07:36.000 And Kinky's like, You can come to the hotel and keep doing the interview!
01:07:40.000 And Juford's like, No!
01:07:42.000 No!
01:07:42.000 And I was like, No, I've got enough.
01:07:44.000 And then we kind of had this argument out in the parking lot at the back of the restaurant, myself and Jesse Ventura.
01:07:52.000 Yes, I'm arguing with him.
01:07:54.000 This huge 6'6", looks like a cave viking looming over me as we argue about another issue.
01:08:02.000 And then he had said earlier that they wanted a copy of Terror Storm and so I gave him a couple and we've got him as soon as he gets in the Cadillac.
01:08:09.000 He's just sitting there on video just reading and looking at it all like he's just a kid with a new toy.
01:08:15.000 I'll tell you more about all of it later.
01:08:18.000 Right now we've got Laro Jones Chavez, disclosed by LJ when he was in the military, and we've got his DD-214, we've got it all up there.
01:08:32.000 Again, there's three issues now, and I'd like you to speak on any of them.
01:08:36.000 Other facets of things you witnessed when you were in Central Command in the Top Secret area on the morning of 9-11, the day of 9-11, And then recap some of the key points you made yesterday and then elaborate.
01:08:51.000 And then B, on the record, tell these detractors who have no proof.
01:08:57.000 They just say, well, we don't trust him or he probably isn't real.
01:09:01.000 But they won't give any facts.
01:09:02.000 First it's like, give us a DD-214.
01:09:04.000 We give them that and they go, well, he sure got promoted fast.
01:09:08.000 This sheet doesn't make sense.
01:09:11.000 And I showed the folks who are in the military, been in the military here, and they said it looks like a real DD-214.
01:09:15.000 We went and looked you up and found you in the military rolls, found photos of you in your uniform.
01:09:21.000 So why do you think people are in such denial?
01:09:24.000 And then see what type of attacks you're going through now at your office that you put in your letter to the editor, you put your phone number in there, and where you worked, so they're calling.
01:09:36.000 So go through those three points for us, sir.
01:09:39.000 Okay, we'll start with A obviously.
01:09:42.000 During my time at Central Command, I worked in the SCIF, and during the morning of 9-11, I read a document, a top-secret document, that was on a fly-op's desk, that it was open to, you know, one of the pages, page 4, you know, some one of those, and it gave scenarios of hijacked planes crashing into buildings.
01:10:01.000 Now, a lot of people, you know, and we were in support of the Joint Guardian, and you know, I got a call from Neela earlier, and he was like, you know, somebody was, you know, just claiming that they were at Center Command during that time, saying that, you know, Center Command only, you know, only participated in, you know, areas in the Middle East, you know, for exercise.
01:10:17.000 Well, that's not true.
01:10:18.000 I mean, I've been covering CENTCOM for years, and CENTCOM is involved in all sorts of communications with NORAD and NORTHCOM and all the rest of the comms.
01:10:30.000 Right, NORCOM, SOUTHCOM, I mean, and the thing is, is that, yes, you know, the main job of Central Command is to perform exercises and perform guidance and watch over the Middle East, but it doesn't mean... And you said that yesterday!
01:10:41.000 You said that yesterday!
01:10:42.000 Yeah, Operation Bright Star, which was an exercise in Egypt, is what we were participating in, like... CENTCOM has been doing drills and urban warfare takeover drills for years!
01:10:52.000 I've been covering it forever!
01:10:54.000 They do do a lot.
01:10:55.000 I mean, like I say, and SOCOM is located right there on MacDill, you know, and they do lots of, you know, urban warfare training.
01:11:01.000 Um, but, you know, so I, you know, I had witness to that document, and, you know, like I said in another interview, if I had, you know, if I had just, if I had fought at the time and, like... I've had CENTCOM deployed troops in Brooksville, Florida, chasing me and Noombuggies through swamps.
01:11:16.000 Okay?
01:11:16.000 I don't want to hear it.
01:11:17.000 Yeah, they do have like a joint support communications element that's also on the base and they do like lots of cool stuff.
01:11:23.000 And they chased me around with the police all night long for two days and told neighbors not to talk to us.
01:11:30.000 It's all in the takeover.
01:11:31.000 Okay, so we've established CENTCOM is involved in operations here.
01:11:35.000 Go ahead.
01:11:35.000 Right, and then of course, you know, the big thing is, you know, we were, you know, the individuals I was with was given a verbal confirmation, you know, from this Air Force officer that Norad was told to stand down.
01:11:48.000 We have a stand down order to scramble planes.
01:11:51.000 And people are like, we need the name of that guy.
01:11:53.000 It's been five years and I'm the worst person with names.
01:11:57.000 And St.
01:11:57.000 Tom's a big place.
01:11:58.000 You're in a pit that's got 80 to 100 people.
01:12:01.000 There's 500 in the whole building probably.
01:12:04.000 Oh, there's 3,000 in the whole building.
01:12:05.000 OK, so you said there in that particular classified area, you said 80 to 100 I believe yesterday.
01:12:10.000 How many in the whole building?
01:12:13.000 Between $25,000 and $3,000.
01:12:14.000 That was at the time.
01:12:15.000 Now they could have scaled down some.
01:12:18.000 Obviously you won't give us the names of some of the officers you know because you don't want to get them in trouble.
01:12:22.000 You don't want to speak for them.
01:12:23.000 But you remember this other high-level, what you said, colonel?
01:12:26.000 A general with these colonels going and talking to him.
01:12:31.000 And repeat what you said yesterday.
01:12:33.000 So, yeah, you know, well, when, you know, people started questioning, well, where's, you know, where's the air defense support?
01:12:40.000 And, you know, this Air Force commander comes out, and then my lieutenant general buddy, like, you know, and about, you know, two or three colonels and majors, you know, high-ranking officials, we all go over.
01:12:50.000 And he's standing there, and they're like, why haven't pennies been scrambled?
01:12:53.000 And he's like, you know, NORAD, you know, received a stand-down order.
01:12:56.000 Yeah, there's an order to stand down from scrambling the jets right now.
01:12:59.000 Yeah, the point is, for those that are saying CENTCOM doesn't run operations or doesn't do drills domestically, number one, they do.
01:13:04.000 You can pull up all the articles on their own website about it.
01:13:08.000 But number two, all of these comms interface with each other and have liaison officers in interlocking rings, you know, across from Space Command to CENTCOM to NASA.
01:13:19.000 To Morav, to FEMA.
01:13:22.000 They're all communicating and so everybody's scrambling there saying, why hasn't something been done?
01:13:26.000 And you see the Air Force liaison officer being spoken to.
01:13:30.000 That's correct.
01:13:31.000 And you know, a lot of people are like, well, how's the sergeant, you know, just standing there talking to, you know, I... That's what I did.
01:13:36.000 I mean, you know, these people that I repair the computers, I mean, you know, they were... Everybody at CENTCOM is like a major or higher.
01:13:42.000 Like, we don't have a lot of privates.
01:13:44.000 Like, we don't have... You're in a nest.
01:13:46.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:13:47.000 You know, like, this is a command center.
01:13:49.000 This isn't a place where, like, the highest-ranking, you know, officer is a colonel.
01:13:53.000 I mean, these... You know, we had this little, you know, group, you know, that we were like, well, if he's not a colonel, we're not even going to help him out, you know, because we were pick-and-choose who we liked to help, you know, at the help desk.
01:14:00.000 You got to be friends with the IT guys, you know, these colonels would, like, let me come and talk to them.
01:14:04.000 I met lots of war heroes, you know, I mean, like, you know, you know, the gentleman who was in Somalia, you know, General Harrell, Um, I've shaken his hand.
01:14:12.000 Oh, monster grip.
01:14:13.000 I mean, but, you know, these things are like, people, like, just tear me apart, like, you know, and then, uh, you know, the thing is, in the letter, I put the, uh, you know, the skiff, which was basically a command, you know, an underground bunker.
01:14:24.000 It's, it's, you know, to, like, set the story straight, it's not underground.
01:14:27.000 It's like a 45 degree angle ramp that goes down, but...
01:14:30.000 A bunker is a bunker.
01:14:32.000 It's like people try to spin that.
01:14:34.000 It's all semantic.
01:14:35.000 The government called the facility in building 7 that was on the 30-something floor, they called it Giuliani's bunker.
01:14:48.000 Command bunker, exactly.
01:14:49.000 They're called bunkers because they're fortified.
01:14:51.000 Go ahead.
01:14:52.000 Right, and this was the center fortified facility and it was always dark in there.
01:14:56.000 They always had big screens up with different things going on.
01:15:00.000 You know, but everybody was like, you know, asking that.
01:15:02.000 And then, you know, I've got, you know, questions on my DD-214.
01:15:04.000 People are saying, well, why?
01:15:05.000 How come Block 22 is not signed?
01:15:07.000 I don't know, but when I Google, if you do a Google image search for DD-214s, you'll find, like, there's 20 different versions of the 214.
01:15:15.000 Like, I don't know why mine looks different than any of those, but that's the official one that I've got, you know, from the military personnel.
01:15:23.000 And, you know, a lot of people have been questioning, like, if you're in Afghanistan, how come you don't have an Afghan service ribbon?
01:15:27.000 I don't have an Afghan Service Ribbon.
01:15:29.000 I don't have a Combat Action Badge.
01:15:30.000 I'm entitled to those things, but those are just awards that I don't feel are necessary, and the reason I don't have those is because to get an award, your commander has to put you in for it, you know, stating why, and you go through all this whole process.
01:15:43.000 It sometimes takes three or four to six months.
01:15:45.000 When I came back from Afghanistan, I did a Chapter 13, which is an early job for college, and the regulation states that If, you know, you have a letter from an accredited university that will let you out up to six months prior than your ETS day, which is your end of term of service.
01:15:59.000 So I didn't want to wait six months to get out.
01:16:01.000 Like, I wanted to just get out.
01:16:02.000 So I got accepted.
01:16:03.000 Let me ask you a question.
01:16:04.000 You know, we've made calls.
01:16:05.000 We've been told you were in the military.
01:16:07.000 We found other references to you on the web, on government websites.
01:16:10.000 We've seen pictures of you.
01:16:12.000 Why don't these people that just keep trying to make stuff up about you, why don't they just go actually do research themselves?
01:16:18.000 Instead, they just sit there and say it isn't true.
01:16:21.000 I know, you know, and at that point, you know, there's a lot of misinformation going around, you know, I understand what they're questioning, but like, you know, I'm like, if I have to answer, I'm like, well, wow, my character's at stake here, you know, and then of course with the, with the calls, you know, coming back and forth, you know, with, with the building and stuff, you know, my, my boss and the owner of my company obviously is not happy because he's like, you know, what's going on here?
01:16:39.000 But, you know, I just, I, you know, I did this because, you know, I, I wanted to, you know, I, I told my boss yesterday, like, you know, what wouldn't What would you do if you knew this information and it could lead to something bigger and you know you should keep it in or tell him?
01:16:52.000 He's like, no, it's a really hard decision to make.
01:16:54.000 But you know, I mean, obviously... Well, let's do a plug for the company.
01:16:56.000 What is the company you work for, dude?
01:16:59.000 Um, they are a, uh, they develop, and I really probably shouldn't talk about this, Alex.
01:17:05.000 I mean, seriously, I don't want to.
01:17:06.000 Oh, let's just not worry about it then.
01:17:07.000 I don't want to get any more, like, stuff going on, but, you know, they're a software engineering company, and they're good people.
01:17:12.000 I mean, you know, it's a good company.
01:17:14.000 Now, obviously, if it was some internet service provider or something, we could just plug it and get them some business instead of, instead of neocons calling up drooling, saying, ugh.
01:17:22.000 Yeah, that's what it's turned into, you know, and, uh, You know, and I understand people are going to question this because there has been a lot of misinformation, and you know, I just want to, you know, I can't, like, the thing is, I don't have documents.
01:17:35.000 I don't have that document to show that.
01:17:37.000 You know, I don't have a recording of that Air Force liaison saying that NORAD fanned out.
01:17:37.000 I saw it.
01:17:42.000 I heard it with my ears.
01:17:44.000 You did see the document about how CENTCOM was running a drill, and we know that CENTCOM was involved in the drills.
01:17:52.000 That later came out in USA Today.
01:17:54.000 Right.
01:17:54.000 Oh, and I absolutely know, and one more thing I'll put to rest is the fact that people are questioning, like, well, how did you know a few months prior to 9-11 that Cheney was put in charge of NORAD?
01:18:02.000 I'm like, well, and the answer to that is in the military we have a chain of command, and every soldier is entitled to know this chain of command.
01:18:09.000 That's from your immediate reporting NCO all the way up to the Commander-in-Chief, to the President of the United States.
01:18:14.000 Anytime any one of those legislatures or titles changes or a new person comes in, They update that chain of command and they send it out via email or via hard copy to all the soldiers because we're supposed to know that.
01:18:25.000 And that's why we knew that Chaney was put in charge.
01:18:28.000 Well, it was a big deal in the military when that happened.
01:18:32.000 Because it was a loss of confidence.
01:18:35.000 It was like when they took the launch codes off the submarines.
01:18:39.000 Saying, we don't trust you.
01:18:40.000 Yeah, it's like putting Bill Gates in charge of NORAD.
01:18:43.000 I mean, you know, it doesn't make any sense.
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01:23:17.000 Seasons don't feel the reason That goes for Negroponte, Adolf Hitler, Bill Clinton, you name it.
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01:24:08.000 We have links to it up on Infowars.com.
01:24:11.000 And it's always great to have Sully Costillo in studio with us.
01:24:14.000 Sully, thank you, sir.
01:24:15.000 Yes, sir.
01:24:16.000 Thank you for having me.
01:24:17.000 It's always good to have you, my friend.
01:24:19.000 Before we forget, just out of the gates, a group of young men who are just doing a great job here locally.
01:24:26.000 They're at UT.
01:24:27.000 They are having you down to speak tonight at the Texas Union Ballroom.
01:24:33.000 And I think that thing holds like 700 people.
01:24:37.000 Tell us about that event that's coming up tonight here in Austin, Texas.
01:24:40.000 Well, basically it's going to be a lecture on our atrocities our government committed, specifically in Latin America.
01:24:49.000 We're going to be talking about Negro Ponte, we're going to be talking about the death squads, Colonel James Steele, who's now in Iraq with the commando units, and other atrocities that the Reagan-Bush administration has committed back in the early 80s.
01:25:02.000 And also talk about the same people that were there at that time period are now at the White House working for this administration.
01:25:10.000 Now, what's the schedule?
01:25:11.000 You're going to be speaking at the Texas Union tonight.
01:25:15.000 That's the 26th of September at 7 p.m.
01:25:19.000 at the Texas Union Ballroom at UT.
01:25:22.000 It's put on by the Project for a Newer American Citizen.
01:25:26.000 These two young men that are really having 9-11 demonstrations, anti-war demonstrations.
01:25:31.000 They're really off and running, doing a great job.
01:25:34.000 How is Brave New Books?
01:25:35.000 They're across the street from the campus.
01:25:37.000 How are they tied into this?
01:25:38.000 Well, basically they're coordinating to put this event together, and basically they're doing a great job.
01:25:45.000 They're letting the community know, the students know, advertising.
01:25:49.000 They're marketing this event because, you know, it's funny, but these kids are putting this event together.
01:25:56.000 They were born around that age time period, 84, 85, and, you know, they were just babies, and now they're going to know the truth of what happened from those days that they were born.
01:26:08.000 Are you going to do that incredible slideshow presentation?
01:26:11.000 I'm going to do that.
01:26:12.000 I have a slideshow presentation that I'll put out.
01:26:14.000 It's got the good, the bad, and the ugly.
01:26:16.000 It's got people before they were murdered and after they were murdered.
01:26:20.000 We've got pictures of CIA officials.
01:26:24.000 Well, I participated in a lot of the tortures in Central America.
01:26:28.000 And photos of some of the dead people they killed.
01:26:30.000 Exactly.
01:26:30.000 Absolutely.
01:26:31.000 And ironically enough, I get emails from the families of the people that were murdered asking me if their father had died peacefully.
01:26:39.000 Yeah, they've never seen this stuff.
01:26:40.000 They've never seen this stuff.
01:26:41.000 So basically, you know, I've had it.
01:26:44.000 And one of the big things that really helped my cause here in the lectures is the fact that I kept journals.
01:26:52.000 Uh, of the events, uh, that happened down in Central America my whole six years.
01:26:56.000 So, you know, when people question me, well, when did this happen?
01:26:59.000 I go back into my journals and tell you exactly when it happened.
01:27:02.000 I've been thinking, I've got to start keeping a journal because stuff gets foggy over time.
01:27:05.000 It's so important to keep those journals.
01:27:07.000 Exactly.
01:27:07.000 If you, especially if you want to write a nice book one day and you'll be able to go back and just do that.
01:27:14.000 Celica Stillo, people have trouble believing that they're cold-blooded people in the world, period, much less in government.
01:27:20.000 But when we get back, I want to talk about what Negroponte did, the type of things you witnessed, what the death squads did, and you reported here about seven months before it came out in mainstream papers in the U.S.
01:27:31.000 That you had already read in Latin American papers, because you can read Spanish, that they were sending thousands of former members of the death squads to Iraq.
01:27:40.000 And I believe you, because I know you're always accurate, but that's hard to believe in the back of my head.
01:27:44.000 Then it came out in our own newspapers.
01:27:46.000 I want to speak to that.
01:27:47.000 I want to talk about the torture.
01:27:48.000 I want to talk about John Yoo and Gonzales and the memos they've written for Bush.
01:27:52.000 And of course the big, it's about to pass the Senate this week, secret arrest of any American citizen, secret rendition, torture.
01:28:01.000 They're actually codifying it in law and then calling it a defeat of Bush when the lawyers have actually looked at it and say, no, this is worse than what Bush even asked for.
01:28:09.000 So, I mean, they're actually bringing this to America.
01:28:11.000 And about two years ago on this show, you said, you watch what they're doing in Latin America, they're going to do in Iraq, and then they're going to do it here.
01:28:18.000 And I don't like you being right, Sully.
01:28:19.000 I'm getting sick of this.
01:28:21.000 I'm sorry to hear that.
01:28:22.000 Well, can't you be wrong?
01:28:24.000 But the truth is the truth, you know, and that's what people need to hear.
01:28:27.000 So we're going to break, come back, long segment, get into all those questions I have and any facets you want to cover.
01:28:27.000 Exactly.
01:28:32.000 The Texas Union is a big ballroom.
01:28:34.000 Correct me, but I think it's about 700 people?
01:28:36.000 Yeah, approximately 500.
01:28:38.000 Okay.
01:28:39.000 So, folks, be sure to be there tonight.
01:28:41.000 We'll be right back.
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01:31:50.000 Coming up in the next segment, we'll have open phones for Celica Stillo, and he's really an expert on the New World Order, the whole crime syndicate.
01:32:04.000 So whether it's 9-11, government drug dealing, the Iraq War, Government-sponsored terror.
01:32:11.000 He can speak to it from a very educated point of view.
01:32:13.000 He's a trained police officer, DEA, and also military experience.
01:32:18.000 I think all of that together.
01:32:19.000 And then a school teacher.
01:32:21.000 So you've worn quite a bit.
01:32:23.000 And an author.
01:32:24.000 So you've done quite a bit, Sully.
01:32:26.000 And thank God that I've had the opportunity to wear all those hats I wear now.
01:32:26.000 Yes, I have.
01:32:32.000 But most important is education.
01:32:34.000 I think the American people need to be educated.
01:32:37.000 on our foreign policy and why it's failed.
01:32:41.000 You're right, it's failed for us, but it's done a great job for the crooks around this country.
01:32:45.000 Well, absolutely, especially with the blueprints of Operation Phoenix in Vietnam.
01:32:53.000 Those same blueprints were brought to Central America and utilized because they worked so perfectly in Vietnam.
01:32:58.000 Now let's walk through that, and then I want to get into Posada, the plane bomber.
01:33:02.000 That's now big in the news, and we're going to hit calls in the next segment, but walk us through I mean, I remember two years ago, you were talking about torture, you were talking about Latin America, you were talking about how they're using these death squads.
01:33:14.000 Break it down for us.
01:33:15.000 Well, basically, we have the same cell terrorists that I called that were in Vietnam, Felix Rodriguez and other CIA operatives.
01:33:25.000 They put in a plan that was later known as operational.
01:33:30.000 And it was to go on and assassinate anybody who was against the government or sympathetic to the church or schools or whatever.
01:33:39.000 And they used it and they eliminated thousands of people on assassinating a lot of the young people down there.
01:33:47.000 And it worked so perfectly, they brought it to Central America.
01:33:50.000 McCaffrey brought it down to Central America, implemented it into El Salvador.
01:33:54.000 And basically what they did, they did the same thing, they went out there and almost Genocide the whole Mayan indigenous people and students and church groups and so forth.
01:34:05.000 Now as everybody knows is known as a Salvadoran option which is now being implemented into Iraq and no other than Colonel James Steele who headed the death squads in Salvador is now running the commandos units in Iraq.
01:34:21.000 So it's the same cell that goes out there and does the dirty work for our government.
01:34:29.000 They're literally, I saw the Latin American reports after you pointed it out, and then it was in the U.S., hiring thousands of former Colombians, Nicaraguans, El Salvadorans, and they're flying them over there to now kill and torture Iraqis.
01:34:47.000 Yes, I told you.
01:34:48.000 When we were in Salvador, we brought in the advisors from Venezuela.
01:34:51.000 Victor Rivera was one of those guys that was a head guy for the CIA.
01:34:58.000 And he worked there for about four years in El Salvador.
01:35:02.000 And, you know, they're bringing in people.
01:35:05.000 We trained those people.
01:35:08.000 Now, as we know, a lot of the caibiles that we trained Special Forces in El Salvador and Guatemala are now working for the cartels and they're being hired and they're mercenaries being hired for money and they go out there and kill people.
01:35:25.000 I've seen the press reports these mercenaries are getting between $85,000 and $180,000 And they're not just hiring mercenaries from Latin America, they're hiring them here from the US, Eastern Europe, Western Europe.
01:35:39.000 I remember seeing ads in newspapers for trying to hire Austin police officers starting at like a hundred grand to go over and quote police, but this is a little different with these mercenaries.
01:35:49.000 What type of torture, you know, the photos, the documents, the interviews you did, what type of torture were you able to uncover and witness when you were in Central and South America?
01:35:58.000 In Central America, for example, we grabbed a whole bunch of Colombians that came in with a huge shipment of cocaine, 3,000 kilos.
01:36:07.000 There were a couple of Mexican girls and their father there, and what they did, they raped them, they tortured them, and when I say torture, they started cutting their arms off, their hands off.
01:36:16.000 And at the end of the day, they all disappeared.
01:36:19.000 What they did was they put them all in 55-gallon drums, put holes in them, put them on helicopters and took them out to sea and dropped them.
01:36:26.000 So those bodies will never be found.
01:36:28.000 And this was videotaped by the CIA.
01:36:31.000 Randy Caps, they're an agent for the CIA, filmed the whole incident.
01:36:36.000 So they filmed it for a what?
01:36:37.000 Well, it's training purposes.
01:36:39.000 So, for example, the CIA in Guatemala Uh, in the early part of 1986, uh, had a, a, a, believe it or not, a school where they invited all heads of the, uh, G2, uh, intelligence unit from, from Europe and Latin America.
01:36:56.000 And they brought them down to Guatemala to teach them new techniques on how to torture people.
01:37:00.000 And so they sit around in darkened rooms watching, uh, little girls getting their arms cut off.
01:37:04.000 Exactly.
01:37:05.000 And what they did then, they brought in a human specimens, uh, alive and, and they tortured them and they killed them in front of the, uh, the students there so they could know what to do and how to revive people. - How in the hell, and I'm sorry to use that term, How in the world did we sink this low?
01:37:23.000 And how do people in our government... See, this is so widespread in the culture, though, and it shows us in criminology, you know more about it than I do, that psychopaths always get bolder and bolder.
01:37:33.000 It's like they want to be caught.
01:37:36.000 I mean, I'm sure you've seen now the Alberto Gonzales memos, the John Yoo memos, where they say, we torture children in front of their parents.
01:37:43.000 I mean, it's one thing to torture children, that's pure evil Joseph Mingolo, but they write it and put the memos out?
01:37:49.000 I mean, it shows a disconnect.
01:37:50.000 What do you think's happening when they're writing memos now?
01:37:53.000 Well, see, that's how arrogant our government has gotten to where they know that nothing's going to happen to them, even if they're prosecuted.
01:38:01.000 Uh, for international crime, uh, at the end of the day, uh... But how do you torture small children?
01:38:07.000 Well, you know, there's no... First of all, torture doesn't work, never has worked.
01:38:11.000 But I mean, why are they... I guess they just like it?
01:38:14.000 No, no, what they do is they torture a young kid to send out a message to other people that this is going to happen to you if you corroborate with the enemy.
01:38:25.000 So it's about terror.
01:38:26.000 Exactly, terror.
01:38:27.000 And, you know, they keep you alive.
01:38:30.000 There's a book by a nun, an American nun named Diana Ortiz, who was tortured in Guatemala, and she was able to escape.
01:38:37.000 But there was an American agent who did the torturing on her, and she later identified him after I gave her a picture of who I thought it was.
01:38:47.000 And sure enough, she identified him as the guy who had tortured her.
01:38:49.000 And that guy was Randy Kempster, who was down in Central America for 10 years.
01:38:53.000 But the guys that do it, though, have to enjoy it.
01:38:55.000 Oh my God, they enjoy it because they think, you know, it's just like you give a guy a gun, and you give him carte blanche to do anything, and he goes out there and does it, and feels pride in what he does.
01:39:10.000 Does he know that he's got to answer to somebody?
01:39:12.000 What is it like for you to be able to look at a video of him cutting little girls' arms off?
01:39:18.000 Why are you guys doing that?
01:39:20.000 It's completely wrong what you're doing morally.
01:39:23.000 He says, well, this is what we do in Latin America.
01:39:27.000 We have to set an example to let people know that they're not going to come into this country and run drugs without our permission.
01:39:33.000 And basically that's what they do.
01:39:35.000 And then what I started doing, you know, that was the first time I became ashamed to be an American.
01:39:42.000 Because at the beginning... Oh, this is a key point.
01:39:44.000 I mean, you're this gung-ho guy.
01:39:46.000 Oh, man, I, you know, American, apple pie, you name it, man.
01:39:49.000 I was such a patriot.
01:39:50.000 But when I realized that something was wrong, I started to make excuses.
01:39:55.000 Maybe there's a reason for that.
01:39:56.000 And then I was in denial.
01:39:58.000 And then that's when I said, you know what?
01:40:00.000 This is completely wrong.
01:40:01.000 There's no If you're buzzed about it, this is wrong.
01:40:05.000 And what I did was I started keeping more detail, documents, pictures, and also on my journals, kind of writing down what happened to these people.
01:40:17.000 And I was able to start collecting their original passports of the people who were murdered in Central America.
01:40:24.000 I have those now with me.
01:40:25.000 I keep those because it's a reminder and maybe it's a safety for me to have those available in case any time they come after me.
01:40:33.000 Well Selly, we talked about this last time you were here and we're not here thumping our chests or talking about what big men we are.
01:40:38.000 It's simple, when you decide to be on the side of light, when you decide to defend the weak, when you decide to fight evil, and it's very empowering folks, I wish you could, some of you who haven't decided to step across the line, I wish you could join us and that all of us could do, you know, someday shoot for the You know, as a role model, the great things that Sully's done.
01:40:56.000 But at a certain point, it really is a great peace to know that we're doing the right thing, we're fighting really evil people, and I don't care what they do to me, and I just leave it all in God's hands.
01:41:07.000 And, you know, you fought for this country.
01:41:09.000 You believed in Vietnam.
01:41:10.000 You risked your life there.
01:41:11.000 You fought for this country, here domestically as a police officer, and then as a DEA.
01:41:15.000 And you just continued your service to this country.
01:41:18.000 And you kept your soul.
01:41:20.000 A lot of people rationalize and think, well, I guess torture of children or anybody else for that matter is okay.
01:41:24.000 Can you talk about that process?
01:41:26.000 Was it gradual?
01:41:27.000 You said you went into denial.
01:41:29.000 Did you wake up at 3 a.m.
01:41:31.000 in a cold sweat like some people do or was it gradual?
01:41:33.000 Well, first of all, let me just say that many years ago I took an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States and its citizens.
01:41:43.000 And I felt that if I put my life on the line that I would make a difference in preserving my country.
01:41:48.000 And in reality it turned out that I just could not believe that my government was actually doing this.
01:41:56.000 And you're right.
01:41:57.000 I woke up one night Oh, I didn't know that.
01:41:59.000 And then I realized that, you know, I couldn't sleep.
01:42:02.000 I said, you know, this is wrong.
01:42:04.000 Of course, it was eating my conscience.
01:42:06.000 And that's when I decided to start writing about it and let people know what was going on.
01:42:10.000 Even when I was with the DEA, people said, you know what, when you're reporting to Washington, you're just going to come back and, you know, they're going to fire you or do something with it because you're stepping in people's toes up in the White House and they're not going to let this happen.
01:42:26.000 So I said, you know, let me, what it is, it's like I was looking for an excuse for them to tell me I was gone.
01:42:31.000 And at the end of the day, that's basically what happened.
01:42:34.000 But wasn't it empowering to just take the step and say, I don't care anymore?
01:42:38.000 Exactly.
01:42:39.000 You know, I had a job that was paying me close to $100,000 a year, you know, free vehicle, free home, free everything, all tax-free.
01:42:47.000 And, you know, people will say, well, you don't have a mortgage to pay.
01:42:52.000 I have kids, I have a son in college, and I can't And with me, I was looking for a job, and I found that job.
01:42:59.000 So, to me, it was irrelevant, you know.
01:43:01.000 Yeah, I work for the government, but who wants to work for the government when you realize that we are the enemy?
01:43:05.000 We are the bad guys.
01:43:06.000 We are the ones that get away with murder.
01:43:09.000 And see, people think now, with the Iraqi war, that this is just happening on tortured people.
01:43:12.000 We go back to Vietnam.
01:43:15.000 You know, as a matter of fact, I have a big collage of Vietnam, how we tortured people in Vietnam.
01:43:19.000 Well, the Army's own report, okay?
01:43:20.000 We have two reports, but General Tagumba's report and then a separate report.
01:43:24.000 Seventy-five to ninety percent of those taken to the 32 camps are completely innocent of even misdemeanors.
01:43:30.000 They just randomly pick families up that don't have their IDs right.
01:43:33.000 They take them in with these weirdo former federal prison guards that like this stuff.
01:43:37.000 And man, they beat fathers to death.
01:43:39.000 They rape people's daughters.
01:43:41.000 They rape them with acid.
01:43:43.000 I mean, go read the Army report.
01:43:44.000 They put acid on them and then shove it inside.
01:43:46.000 I don't want to go into detail here.
01:43:48.000 I mean, what in the world are this?
01:43:51.000 This is incredible!
01:43:52.000 I mean, I'm embarrassed.
01:43:54.000 I'm embarrassed for this country.
01:43:55.000 You know, and one of the things that the CIA agent once told me, he says, you know what?
01:44:00.000 Nobody's ever going to be able to stop us because this is what we do.
01:44:03.000 We've been doing it for many years and nobody's been able to stop us.
01:44:06.000 And he was absolutely right.
01:44:07.000 They can do just about anything and get away with it.
01:44:10.000 Well, God's going to stop them.
01:44:12.000 Well, that's the answer to the whole issue here.
01:44:14.000 And one day they're going to have to answer to a higher-up.
01:44:19.000 A lot of them are atheists.
01:44:20.000 They don't believe that.
01:44:23.000 Still, I mean, I think you get judged in this world.
01:44:26.000 I mean, I think when you do bad things, it comes back on you.
01:44:30.000 Absolutely.
01:44:30.000 You know these people, though.
01:44:31.000 Are they happy people?
01:44:32.000 Not only that, see, one of the things that American people don't realize is the fact that they're now getting involved because it's happening to one of their families.
01:44:43.000 Or, you know, whether it's racial profiling by the cops, or torture by the cops, or beating up by the cops, or in the military.
01:44:50.000 As you can see, all military females, they're in the military.
01:44:54.000 One out of three has been raped.
01:44:55.000 Yeah, they have.
01:44:56.000 So, you know, our own recruiters, our own people... We're turning into animals.
01:45:03.000 Exactly.
01:45:04.000 We're worse than anything else.
01:45:06.000 And I've always said that we're the worst human rights violators in the Western Hemisphere.
01:45:12.000 We've been it for so many years.
01:45:13.000 There's no doubt about that.
01:45:15.000 And we leave the blood trail out in Latin America with Pinochet and Chile.
01:45:21.000 No wonder.
01:45:22.000 People think that Latin Americans are a bunch of stupid communists who just hate us.
01:45:26.000 No, they're good, hard-working people.
01:45:28.000 They're not communists.
01:45:29.000 It's the only alternative they've been given is the communists.
01:45:31.000 And they just see this happen and they're sick of it.
01:45:34.000 How would we like living like this?
01:45:36.000 Well, here's the bad news and the good news in a way.
01:45:38.000 It's coming here now.
01:45:39.000 Exactly.
01:45:40.000 And so we're going to get a taste of what it's like.
01:45:42.000 Exactly.
01:45:42.000 And we got it in 9-11.
01:45:44.000 We got it.
01:45:45.000 And when I saw 9-11, I remember people getting all upset because 3,000 people died at the World Trade Center, which is okay.
01:45:54.000 But what happened to the half a million people that were slaughtered?
01:45:58.000 By our own dead squads that we trained in Central America back in the 80s.
01:46:02.000 Oh, but that's OK because that's what happened in third world countries.
01:46:06.000 But then when he came home, as I say, the seeking came home to roost.
01:46:11.000 You know, we're not in awe.
01:46:13.000 Wait a minute.
01:46:14.000 You know?
01:46:14.000 And you're talking about the response of the people themselves.
01:46:18.000 You really look at 9-11, Sully, and I know you've looked at it.
01:46:20.000 Clearly an inside job.
01:46:21.000 Give me your take.
01:46:22.000 Absolutely.
01:46:23.000 Absolutely.
01:46:23.000 And that's what they needed to do.
01:46:25.000 The CIA was at the verge of being dissolved.
01:46:29.000 And they had to do something to bring that back.
01:46:31.000 It's like BATFs in trouble so they do Waco.
01:46:33.000 It never ends.
01:46:34.000 Exactly.
01:46:35.000 And we've known to do that for many, many years.
01:46:38.000 And you know, there's a history to show that we've done that.
01:46:40.000 Let me ask you a question.
01:46:41.000 Whenever you talk to your former DEA partners or police you know or others, I mean, because I see people now starting to wake up.
01:46:49.000 But I want to ask you, are you starting to see an acceleration in people waking up?
01:46:53.000 I do.
01:46:54.000 The problem with that is that older people have been there for a while.
01:46:58.000 See, they're realizing that, well, they're not realizing, they've known it's happening, but now they're getting ready to quit, retire, or whatever, and now they got the kids to think about it.
01:47:07.000 Now they're kind of speaking out about it.
01:47:09.000 But, you know, I do have a lot of friends that still call and tell me that I'm doing a good job, and I get emails from police officers saying, you know, You know, I wish we could say something about this and that, but we can't because we have a mortgage to pay and we have our kids going to college and so forth.
01:47:25.000 And that's why a lot of the American people that are knowledgeable about all these atrocities won't get involved because they have a... Yeah, but don't they know none of us are safe when this evil grows?
01:47:37.000 Notice this evil doesn't stop in Latin America.
01:47:39.000 It goes to Iraq, it goes to the US, it goes to Eastern Europe.
01:47:44.000 Of course, I know you follow the news and I want to get into Posada here in a minute.
01:47:49.000 But they spin everything.
01:47:52.000 Bush says, I'm above the law, I'm allowed to secretly arrest citizens.
01:47:55.000 They put it in a bill, along with no more Fourth Amendment, unlimited NSA spy.
01:47:59.000 It's already going on, now they just want to codify it and legalize it.
01:48:02.000 And they call it a defeat of Bush, the Senate's passing this, when it's actually exactly what he asked for.
01:48:07.000 Then they spin it in the media like you're getting your freedoms when the bill does the opposite and it codifies into law the secret arrest of American citizens.
01:48:16.000 I mean, this is bone-chilling.
01:48:17.000 Yeah, well basically I have an assistant United States Attorney, Adam McAllen, who has now labeled me as a domestic terrorist because I go out and I protest the war once a month on a Sunday afternoon in front of a federal building.
01:48:33.000 I could get picked up any day now because of what I do.
01:48:37.000 We have the new training manuals for those people that protest war, people that protest for land rights, people that, it doesn't matter whether you're liberal, conservative, you could be Minutemen or you could be liberal, they're just listing us all as terrorists.
01:48:48.000 How did you find out about this?
01:48:49.000 Well, I had one of the attorneys at, I had one of my clients at He had the client and they told the attorneys, you tell Selly Castillo that he's now documented as a domestic terrorist and we're going to find a way to get him and when we do, you know, he's not going to be able to speak because we're going to put him away for, you know, hiding from public and everybody else.
01:49:13.000 So even these locals now are getting off on the anti-terror powers and you tell Selly Castillo it's over with him.
01:49:20.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:49:22.000 As far as I'm concerned, I've made my peace with God, and I've been on borrowed time since Vietnam.
01:49:27.000 So there's nothing they can do to me.
01:49:29.000 But what cowardly little worms... Well, that's basically the attitude that they get.
01:49:37.000 They're arrogant, and they think that at the end of the day, George Bush will pardon them before he leaves office.
01:49:45.000 And that's why they do what they do.
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01:53:02.000 Luis Posada, he's in my film Terror Storm, going around blowing up airplanes, bombing people, and then blaming it on foreign enemies.
01:53:12.000 He is being held, supposedly, in a Texas prison.
01:53:14.000 I don't even believe that.
01:53:15.000 And the government's saying they're now about to release him.
01:53:17.000 We're going to start the next hour in four minutes.
01:53:19.000 We'll go to Brian, Chris, Jeff, Dave, John, I promise, directly with Selly Castillo.
01:53:24.000 But one of the things you've been writing about and speaking about is this Posada character.
01:53:28.000 Tell us about him, Selly.
01:53:30.000 Well, basically, it's an individual that's been an American terrorist for many, many years.
01:53:34.000 Him and Felix Rodriguez, who ran the Ylopongo Airport.
01:53:37.000 Posada was in jail in Venezuela back in the early 80s.
01:53:41.000 And Oliver North and Felix Rodriguez, the CIA operative, helped him escape.
01:53:47.000 He was in jail up there for the bombing of the Cuban airline that killed approximately 76 people.
01:53:54.000 Anyway, so basically they brought him to Central America to run a drug trafficking operation out of Ilo Pango Airport and, you know, set up some terrorist activity in Guatemala.
01:54:05.000 So I met Luis Posadas Carriles there in Guatemala.
01:54:11.000 And, uh, at Ilopongo Airport.
01:54:13.000 And that was reported to the U.S.
01:54:14.000 Ambassador, uh, Edwin Corr, in reference to my, my discovery of this individual.
01:54:21.000 And, uh, he kept saying it's a COVID operation being run by the White House.
01:54:24.000 You know, we can't get involved in that.
01:54:26.000 And basically this guy is, is a American-born terrorist, um, who worked for, uh, George Bush, Sr.
01:54:34.000 And, uh, basically, uh, when Bush was the director of the CIA, uh, Were they mad that Cuba won three gold medals?
01:54:43.000 Why'd they blow up that plane?
01:54:45.000 Just to blow it up.
01:54:46.000 And what they did kill were students, the fencing team for the national Cuba country there.
01:54:56.000 And they killed a whole bunch of kids.
01:54:58.000 That's what it was.
01:55:00.000 76 young kids that they blew up.
01:55:04.000 And there's another guy named Roland.
01:55:08.000 uh... Bosch who was pardoned by another American terrorist who was pardoned by Bush in 1991.
01:55:13.000 And they just do it over and over again.
01:55:16.000 I mean BBC, Associated Press, they all admit our government staged these attacks.
01:55:21.000 And then of course at the time they were trying to claim Cubans did it as if they'd... it just never ends.
01:55:26.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:55:27.000 It never ends.
01:55:28.000 And this guy now, he was, you know, came in illegally into this country and uh... he had a press conference with the Cuban exiles.
01:55:35.000 I mean, In Miami and right after the press conference he came in illegally trying to tell the Bush administration that if he gets arrested then he knows where the skeletons are buried.
01:55:48.000 So to keep him quiet they picked him up and they threw him in a facility there in El Paso and now no country wants him.
01:55:57.000 And they will not extradite him to Cuba or to Venezuela.
01:56:00.000 So now, the Constitution says... But he's been convicted down there.
01:56:04.000 They need to send him down to Venezuela.
01:56:06.000 Absolutely.
01:56:07.000 So how is it possible that we can always request the extradition of an American, but when it's their turn to ask for the extradition of one of their own, they will not send him there.
01:56:19.000 Well, we've been griping in Mexico, I think rightfully so, that they won't extradite up here, but even with cop killers, but we're doing the same thing on extraditing this convicted murderer.
01:56:29.000 Yeah, and I remember the President saying, you know, we will not tolerate terrorism, and yet we have our own terrorists, and they're being protected by the White House, and they will not be released.
01:56:39.000 He's going to be released next week.
01:56:41.000 They're going to release him here in the U.S.
01:56:45.000 Although he's an illegal alien, he came in with... Well, that's another thing.
01:56:49.000 It just never ends.
01:56:51.000 They break whatever laws they want whenever they want.
01:56:54.000 Exactly.
01:56:54.000 And they get away with it.
01:56:55.000 And this guy is known as the Osama Bin Laden of Latin America.
01:57:01.000 That's how many people he killed.
01:57:02.000 Can't people call the Border Patrol and demand they be waiting outside the prison to take him in on immigration charges?
01:57:07.000 Well, no, because they all answer to the Department of Justice and you know who's in charge of the Department of Justice.
01:57:12.000 Gonzalez.
01:57:13.000 Oh, man.
01:57:15.000 The Enron lawyer that writes memos saying Bush is the law.
01:57:19.000 Stay there, folks.
01:57:19.000 We're going to come back and take your calls and get into a host of other issues with Sully Costello.
01:57:25.000 He's got a whole raft of important issues he's here to cover with us.
01:57:28.000 Third hour, straight ahead.
01:57:32.000 Copies of the preceding broadcast are available at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-376-45.
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01:58:01.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000 I interviewed the former governor, former Navy SEAL, former movie star, wrestler, Jesse the Mind Ventura last night and he said more about 9-11 than he's ever said before.
01:58:18.000 He went public on it saying he does question the official story.
01:58:24.000 And I'll recap that interview before this hour ends.
01:58:26.000 I'll spend a few minutes recapping what happened in that sit-down video interview.
01:58:30.000 It'll be up on the website tonight on InfoWars.com.
01:58:34.000 The first place it will be is JonesReport.com because that webmaster is so dedicated.
01:58:38.000 He's also the video editor.
01:58:39.000 Aaron Dykes.
01:58:41.000 We're going to be up here tonight to make sure it's a good edit.
01:58:44.000 And then we're going to post it up to YouTube, or if it's too long, to Google Video.
01:58:49.000 And then we'll put it up tonight.
01:58:50.000 It'll be up on JonesReport first.
01:58:54.000 And then tomorrow it'll be up on presentplanet.com and infowars.com and Paul Watson's writing an article about the interview.
01:59:01.000 Right now it'll be up in the next few hours as well.
01:59:03.000 It is huge news!
01:59:06.000 Also, I've got a lot of other news here that I want to be going over concerning the police state, CIA spying, CIA drug dealing, Los Zetas.
01:59:14.000 It's really controlled by our government.
01:59:16.000 These drug gangs running all over the Southwest, predominantly Texas.
01:59:19.000 Celica Stillo is our guest.
01:59:21.000 We said we'd take your calls.
01:59:22.000 We will do it now.
01:59:24.000 Let's talk to Brian in Ohio.
01:59:25.000 You're on the air worldwide, Brian.
01:59:28.000 Hello, Alex.
01:59:29.000 Hi.
01:59:29.000 I appreciate what you're doing there.
01:59:31.000 I just want to let you know I'm a recent InfoWars subscriber.
01:59:35.000 And I've been doing a lot of my own research in the past year, and one thing that's kind of come to light to me with all this research that I've done is, you know, it's basically an awakening, like you said in the earlier segment.
01:59:52.000 There's an assumption, it seems, in America that we're... I was one of those people that was kind of off, just letting the government run itself.
01:59:59.000 Yeah, we're the good guys, and in truth what we are is a bunch of naive people, on average, run by demons.
02:00:04.000 Yeah, and as a Christian, I kind of swallowed the pill as far as Bush's Christianity, and then what didn't make sense to me after that was when I looked at Karl Rove and what his history has been with his campaign orchestrations and whatnot.
02:00:17.000 But a lot of his stuff is covered on your website in terms of the Federal Reserve and just... Yeah, calling George Bush a Christian is like calling Beelzebub Jesus.
02:00:29.000 Well, the truth is stranger than fiction.
02:00:31.000 It really is.
02:00:32.000 When I've looked at the facts, like Norman Dodd's interview in 1982 on the 1954 Reeves Commission and what they discovered with the tax-exempt Rockefeller and the Carnegie Foundations.
02:00:44.000 What amazes me is that this stuff is in print.
02:00:48.000 The recent things that have come to light with the Patriot Act and we're talking about this Expanding the borders.
02:00:55.000 I guess what I want to know is, I would encourage everyone to do their own research.
02:00:59.000 What you're saying is, you checked into this stuff and you found out it's true, and this is darn serious, people better look at it.
02:01:07.000 I've heard you issue that challenge.
02:01:09.000 We can back up what we're saying.
02:01:11.000 Listen folks, you can't just deny what we're saying on a hand.
02:01:13.000 You better go look it up.
02:01:14.000 The point is this, you really need to insert yourself to assert yourself.
02:01:18.000 And I think the day of just assuming we're in a utopia, and that's kind of, that's what I've been guilty of is, hey, my life is good and full here.
02:01:26.000 And I felt a little bit guilty for not really being involved.
02:01:28.000 Yeah, we have a responsibility to defend those that are being abused or it'll end up happening to us, Shelley.
02:01:32.000 Absolutely, and we need to just, education, I've always said education is the name of the game here.
02:01:37.000 We need to educate as many people as we can to let them know what's going on in this country.
02:01:42.000 We've got to do, I mean, we're in a race against time.
02:01:45.000 You know, it's kind of late to save ourselves.
02:01:46.000 You know, it's going to be our grandkids we need to save now because our kids are also not savable right now.
02:01:52.000 But it's going to get worse before it gets better, if it gets better.
02:01:56.000 Now, unfortunately, I agree with you.
02:01:58.000 We've reached a terminal corruption and decadence and evil.
02:02:02.000 And right now we're going into bondage.
02:02:05.000 And the question is, will we have the core that will then recognize it and resist it to get the country back?
02:02:09.000 Exactly.
02:02:11.000 Okay, well listen, I appreciate your fine comments, Brian.
02:02:14.000 We're going to break, and when we come back after break, we're going to talk to Chris, Jeff, Dave, John.
02:02:18.000 I'm going to get through all these calls that have been holding forever.
02:02:20.000 1-800-259-9231.
02:02:21.000 What a novel idea to get my toll-free number out on air.
02:02:26.000 1-800-259-9231.
02:02:27.000 Shelly Castillo, author of Powder Burns.
02:02:33.000 I forgot to tell you about that.
02:02:33.000 We'll tell you about the book.
02:02:34.000 We carry it.
02:02:35.000 It's almost out of print.
02:02:36.000 We've got some copies here of it.
02:02:38.000 You really need to get it.
02:02:40.000 We'll be right back.
02:02:41.000 Shelly will be speaking on the defense tonight.
02:02:42.000 We'll tell you more about that, too.
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02:05:52.000 Stella Costello is our guest in studio.
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02:06:01.000 I didn't plug this in the last hour.
02:06:02.000 I should have.
02:06:03.000 We have his book, Powder Burns.
02:06:06.000 Absolutely.
02:06:07.000 I've got about 500 left and that's basically it.
02:06:08.000 Chuck Dealing, the photos, the documents, what he witnessed as the highest level DA agent in Latin America.
02:06:13.000 It is such an important definitive book.
02:06:15.000 And, Sally, I hope more get printed up when these are gone, but you're getting down to the end of them, aren't you?
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02:06:28.000 And I think we've got like 400 of them.
02:06:30.000 We've got like maybe, I think it's 75 to 80 left, Kevin was saying.
02:06:34.000 So if you want powder burns, we have them on Infowars.com.
02:06:37.000 Those will sell out soon.
02:06:37.000 We'll buy more of what Sally's got left if he'll sell them to us.
02:06:41.000 And then we need to get an updated version then, I guess, of powder burns republished.
02:06:47.000 Exactly.
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02:07:05.000 Let's go back to the calls.
02:07:06.000 Let's talk to Chris in Maine.
02:07:08.000 Thanks for holding.
02:07:09.000 You're on the air.
02:07:10.000 Hey, how's it going, Alex?
02:07:12.000 Good, sir.
02:07:12.000 What's on your mind?
02:07:15.000 I pretty much just, you know, hopped on the net and I was listening to your guys' conversation and I decided to call, you know?
02:07:20.000 Sure, what's on your mind?
02:07:22.000 The only thing I really have on my mind is, like, we keep talking about, you guys keep talking about, like, you know, all the deaths and everything, and it's like, it's only spawned more and more death, and as it's spawning more and more death, That's less and less likely that we're going to run across, you know, the person who has the cure for AIDS or cancer or power problems or anything.
02:07:44.000 I mean, we might have just killed, you know, today, right now.
02:07:48.000 We might have just killed the next Albert Einstein.
02:07:51.000 Well, more than that, we've killed our soul because when as a society, collectively, we let our leaders write memos saying they can torture children, we've entered hell.
02:08:00.000 That is wrong in every sense of the word.
02:08:03.000 I don't care what religion you are.
02:08:05.000 Torturing anybody, death in general, is just wrong and should not be.
02:08:10.000 My point is not even the Nazis wrote public memos about torturing children, they just did it.
02:08:18.000 I mean, this is lower than the Nazis.
02:08:20.000 And when I say that, Soa, you want to comment on that statement?
02:08:22.000 Absolutely.
02:08:22.000 They're carte blanche to do whatever you want to do and they write about it and they're not worried not one bit about getting prosecuted for it.
02:08:31.000 And it's so sad because it's gotten to this point to where they're so arrogant They're worse than any other dictator in this world that killed thousands and thousands of people.
02:08:43.000 The only thing holding them back is the Second Amendment.
02:08:45.000 If they could get our guns, they'd move.
02:08:47.000 I mean, the Houston Chronicle reported on the FEMA camps they've got for citizens.
02:08:51.000 Exactly.
02:08:52.000 So, you know, that's the next step.
02:08:54.000 And that's going to be a big fight, because I myself will not give up my gun.
02:09:01.000 Well, we were talking during the break.
02:09:02.000 I mean, I think arrogant dictators in these plutocracies always get arrogant, decadent, and out of control.
02:09:10.000 And I think we're starting to see an overplaying of the hand.
02:09:13.000 What do you think?
02:09:14.000 Yes, I think they crossed the line.
02:09:16.000 I think they're not turning back.
02:09:18.000 They're going to go forward full speed.
02:09:22.000 What happens, happens.
02:09:27.000 When you took criminology to be a police officer in the DEA, I just know as a layman reading some books on criminology and some psychology I had in college, that's what psychopaths and control freaks and murderers do, is they get wilder and wilder.
02:09:39.000 They want to get caught.
02:09:42.000 Yes, but even when they get caught, they get released.
02:09:45.000 And we got Posadas as an example, the guy who killed people, Bosch, who killed a whole bunch of people also, and guess what?
02:09:54.000 They were pardoned at the end of the day.
02:09:56.000 And, you know, they're going to go back and do the same thing.
02:09:59.000 So this is a higher class of criminal.
02:10:01.000 It's not like the street serial killer.
02:10:03.000 These are serial killers, a society of killers who have get-out-of-jail-free cards.
02:10:08.000 Exactly.
02:10:08.000 They will never, ever be prosecuted, whether it's in international courts or here in the U.S.
02:10:15.000 You can see for Posada, you know, he's a criminal.
02:10:18.000 He came into this country illegally, and he's not being prosecuted for that.
02:10:22.000 He's going to be released next week.
02:10:25.000 So, that's shameful.
02:10:27.000 Chris, anything else you want to add?
02:10:29.000 Well, I mean, no, not really.
02:10:31.000 Other than just world peace, everybody should agree to disagree and go about their ways.
02:10:37.000 There should be, you know, I mean, if we're ever going to ever make it and, like, have the human race survive in any decent extent of the word, survive.
02:10:47.000 We've got to figure out what the hell is going on.
02:10:50.000 Pardon my French.
02:10:52.000 I appreciate your call.
02:10:53.000 We know what's going on.
02:10:55.000 We're naive.
02:10:56.000 We've been taught that we're the good guys and that's a perfect breeding ground like stagnant water for mosquitoes.
02:11:02.000 And we just bred really evil people.
02:11:05.000 We were a very prosperous, wealthy nation, so evil people flocked here to hijack control.
02:11:10.000 They got control.
02:11:11.000 They've used us as an engine of world empire.
02:11:13.000 And now they're getting ready to break down the internal country and take all our freedoms, and they're openly saying they are.
02:11:19.000 And so Celica Stillo and myself are here on air going, listen, wake up and get involved.
02:11:22.000 You know, the caller first said, well, you know, you guys talk about the problems and it just gets worse.
02:11:27.000 Sir, we're lancing the wound.
02:11:30.000 Sunshine is the best type of disinfectant.
02:11:34.000 We're here, you may know, you may hear this every day.
02:11:37.000 The new person driving along listening on 100.1 in Austin are great folks, big fans up there at KCXL in Kansas City.
02:11:47.000 Pete Chartel and all those wonderful people have been carrying the show for like eight years.
02:11:53.000 Harry Grothjohn there at WBCR outside Knoxville.
02:11:57.000 Just all these great people out there who stand with us.
02:12:00.000 People are listening to those AM and FM stations and they're hearing this for the first time.
02:12:03.000 A lot of them get angry, they get mad.
02:12:05.000 It's like Shelley was in denial when he was in the DEA.
02:12:07.000 It's like I was in denial when I was this little Republican 14 years ago working for the Pat Buchanan campaign.
02:12:14.000 And I started finding out that the Republicans were just as controlled or more than the Democrats.
02:12:19.000 We all go through these processes.
02:12:22.000 Okay, and people hear this show and they get mad, but then a lot of them take the challenge, and they go find out.
02:12:27.000 We do research.
02:12:29.000 We have the facts in front of us.
02:12:30.000 We don't just sit here and make this stuff up.
02:12:33.000 I'm a good friend of Selly, but the first time I ever met him and interviewed him...
02:12:36.000 We were on the same page immediately, not because we'd gotten behind closed doors and scripted things like the Bushies and others have to do.
02:12:42.000 We are just following the truth so we have the same information.
02:12:45.000 It's not like I interviewed some JAG officer or I interviewed some congressperson who's standing up or I interviewed some researcher and we've never talked before but we're on the same page.
02:12:53.000 It's because we're following the facts.
02:12:56.000 Okay?
02:12:57.000 And so we've got the truth.
02:12:58.000 That's a powerful weapon.
02:12:59.000 The establishment has to keep lying, keep their lies straight, cover up the old lies, Absolutely.
02:13:04.000 You know, the thing about it is, since we were very small, we were taught to believe in our country and trust our government and never, you know, just keep on believing in the American dream.
02:13:18.000 And in reality, it's getting worse.
02:13:20.000 It's a nightmare.
02:13:21.000 And in reality, You know, you talked about McAllen down there in the District Attorney, you know, saying you're a terrorist and putting you on some list.
02:13:29.000 We have these training manuals that say property rights activists, land rights activists, conservatives, liberals, gun owners, we're all being put on terrorist lists.
02:13:38.000 The people making those lists are the real terrorists and they think patriotism is licking their boots and not questioning what they say and shutting up and going along with the rape of our families.
02:13:48.000 They are the traitors.
02:13:49.000 That's so un-American to claim that dissent is terrorism.
02:13:53.000 And I think the American people, to be honest with you, they're going to take arms.
02:13:59.000 And they're going to have, we're going to have a civil war in this country.
02:14:02.000 We're going to get tired of our kids getting locked up on racial profiling or whatever reason it is, you know.
02:14:09.000 And uh... you know something happens to my kid I can guarantee you I'll lock and load one thirty round magazine into my rifle and I'll go out doing some hunting because uh... you know you can mess with me all you want but uh... you know and people say you know violence is not the answer and so forth but you know what?
02:14:26.000 Well I'll say what the answer is letting them know don't cross that line.
02:14:29.000 Exactly.
02:14:29.000 It's like a rattlesnake.
02:14:30.000 It's like that flag behind you.
02:14:32.000 That was the Minutemen flag.
02:14:33.000 Don't tread on me.
02:14:34.000 It's saying hey I got a rattle.
02:14:37.000 I'm letting you know.
02:14:38.000 Just back off.
02:14:39.000 And that's what's going to happen.
02:14:40.000 We're going to have a breaking point in our society.
02:14:43.000 Just like 1776.
02:14:44.000 Exactly.
02:14:45.000 They came to confiscate guns.
02:14:46.000 They were arresting people's kids.
02:14:48.000 That's exactly what happened.
02:14:49.000 They said, that's it.
02:14:49.000 That's it.
02:14:50.000 And you draw the line and you lock and load.
02:14:53.000 And that's it.
02:14:54.000 And that's what's going to happen.
02:14:56.000 People are just going to get fed up.
02:14:58.000 See, people don't get involved because They hear this happening to other people, but once it starts happening to their own people, then they get involved.
02:15:07.000 And the problem, well not the problem, the thing that happens is that you get involved, there is a price to pay for it.
02:15:16.000 You will pay a price for it, whether it's going to jail or... But you'll pay a price if you don't get involved.
02:15:22.000 It's worse.
02:15:22.000 Not only will you pay a price, but your kids will pay a price.
02:15:26.000 So it's got to be done.
02:15:27.000 And you know, people say Cesar Chavez, non-violence, Gandhi, no violence.
02:15:32.000 But, you know, it's gotten to a point it's never worked.
02:15:37.000 It's never worked in our country.
02:15:39.000 So now we need to do what we need to do.
02:15:42.000 And I'm telling you, people come out and they start Taking your freedom away, whether it's the Second Amendment on your weapons or whatever.
02:15:50.000 And the thing about it, all these people that work, all these ATF agents, DEA agents, FBI agents, it's a different generation of kids that they actually believe that they have the power to do whatever they want to do.
02:16:06.000 That's right, DEA or BATF 30 years ago would never do what they're doing now.
02:16:11.000 They're going out there, they're entrapping people, they're using informants, they're not reliable to get a search warrant.
02:16:17.000 Well, every day some new crime lab that comes out is framing everybody.
02:16:22.000 Exactly, on DNA and so forth, and ballistics and so forth.
02:16:27.000 It's not stopping.
02:16:28.000 People think they won't take the Second Amendment.
02:16:32.000 They've just announced there's no Fourth Amendment and they're going to pass a law that can secretly arrest citizens and we can disappear into rendition black holes.
02:16:40.000 I mean, that's black bag, you know, snatch and grab, folks.
02:16:44.000 They're openly announcing black bag, snatch and grab.
02:16:46.000 They're openly announcing... Bush has tripled, I keep saying doubled, he's now tripled the size of the BATF.
02:16:51.000 They're not playing games.
02:16:52.000 Exactly, and that's what happened with Hitler.
02:16:55.000 You know, he went up there and started grabbing people and That's what they're doing to us now, and they're locking up Americans without any civil rights, any constitutional rights, you know, be able to have an attorney present and so forth, and they can hold you forever and not give you an attorney.
02:17:14.000 Unfortunately, I think it is going to come to a head, and they're just going to keep pushing and pushing and pushing.
02:17:21.000 And when it finally breaks, I really feel sorry for the enforcers.
02:17:25.000 Exactly, because they're going to get a taste of what they've been given.
02:17:30.000 That they stayed out and we're going to do it again today.
02:17:33.000 And it's going to be a civil war.
02:17:35.000 But I mean, I've talked to so many former Special Forces people alone who are just waiting, armed to the teeth.
02:17:42.000 We've got bunkers, we've got... We'll be right back.
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02:21:43.000 I was just talking to Sally during the break about the incredible interview I have with Jesse Ventura.
02:21:54.000 And I've been around other Hollywood stars and people.
02:21:57.000 I've been up close to Schwarzenegger and he just looks like a big pansy.
02:22:00.000 Doesn't put off any of that presence.
02:22:02.000 But Ventura, man, I was like, this is a killer.
02:22:05.000 I mean, you could really, you know, and he looks completely nuts on top of it.
02:22:10.000 You got black dreadlocks now?
02:22:13.000 Oh my goodness.
02:22:16.000 He crossed the line.
02:22:17.000 He says he likes Mexico.
02:22:18.000 Gotta have a lot of money to live in Mexico.
02:22:23.000 Yeah, but he's probably having fun though.
02:22:25.000 Yeah.
02:22:26.000 Okay, let's go ahead and take another call.
02:22:29.000 Let's talk to Jeff in Kentucky and then Dave, John, Dave and others.
02:22:32.000 Go ahead, Jeff.
02:22:33.000 Hey, sir.
02:22:34.000 Nice talking to you again.
02:22:35.000 Nice talking to you.
02:22:36.000 You know, I haven't walked in your shoes, but I have traveled your path.
02:22:41.000 I've taken two oaths in my life.
02:22:42.000 One was when I enlisted in the Army back in 98.
02:22:46.000 And the other one was, uh, I volunteered to be a ranger and recognized I volunteered as a ranger, knowing fully the hazards of my chosen profession, but I did not start over my soul or my morals.
02:22:57.000 When I was in Iraq, I was stationed in Panama for a year.
02:23:00.000 I didn't get to do all the wild stuff that you did down there, but I did get to see a little bit of craziness down there.
02:23:05.000 And when I was in Iraq, I got to, as a squad leader in an infantry unit, I got to rendition somebody one time.
02:23:11.000 You see that look in somebody's eyes when they're getting hauled off by the MPs.
02:23:15.000 Go see the CIA agent.
02:23:18.000 That's what killed me for being in the military.
02:23:20.000 My son was born two weeks before I left Iraq.
02:23:24.000 And to do stuff that I did in Iraq, it just killed my soul.
02:23:28.000 So they had you doing secret police type snatching grabs?
02:23:33.000 There was nothing secret about it, Alex.
02:23:34.000 We were over there, we'd go in there and we'd bust into a building.
02:23:38.000 If their ID's, and we couldn't speak Arabic so we didn't know if their ID's matched or not.
02:23:42.000 So we looked at the people and was like, well that guy doesn't look right.
02:23:45.000 So we pick him up, take him over to the MPs and the MPs would be like... Yeah, that's what the Army's own report said.
02:23:50.000 75 to 90% totally innocent of anything.
02:23:53.000 And when that, when that... I have one kid that was a college student.
02:23:58.000 He looked me in the eye.
02:24:00.000 And when he was getting hauled off, it just looked like, you know, if I ever see you again on the street, son, That's what his looking eye was to me.
02:24:06.000 If I ever see you on the streets again, son, it's my blood and your blood, you know?
02:24:12.000 And when I came back to America, I got, I got, you know, turned by my college professor and got to see, you know, some things that was going on, especially with 9-11.
02:24:21.000 And it's the true soldiers that went in the military, not the soldiers that are in there now, because the soldiers that are in there now are just a bunch of gang, you know, gangster punk kids.
02:24:31.000 You know, working for the New World Order, but the soldiers that were in there... Shelby's nodding his head.
02:24:35.000 You want to comment on that, Shelby?
02:24:36.000 Yeah, basically that's what happens, Alex.
02:24:38.000 I keep saying it's a new generation of soldiers, a new generation of kids that go out and they think by hurting other people or especially innocent people, but they don't realize that.
02:24:52.000 Yeah, real men hurt bad guys.
02:24:53.000 Yeah, but they're going to come back.
02:24:55.000 You know, one out of three, for example, in Vietnam, we know that 58,000 soldiers were killed in Vietnam, but the American people really don't know that twice that number came back and committed suicide.
02:25:07.000 So one out of three that saw combat in any war is going to be suffering from PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder.
02:25:14.000 And they will be out killing their families, they'll be out killing, and a lot of them, a majority of them, 75% of them will go into law enforcement.
02:25:22.000 And that's what's happening now, they're going into law enforcement.
02:25:24.000 And that's why you get people, I mean, they just had that footage of the little 8-year-old black girl, for no reason, the cops saying, I'm going to blow her head off, and the other cops are coming and saying, put your gun down.
02:25:32.000 I mean, why do you put a gun to a kid's head?
02:25:35.000 Well, because they're waiting to, you know, to... Snap.
02:25:41.000 Snap.
02:25:42.000 And they've snapped already.
02:25:43.000 They just don't realize they haven't any little opportunity.
02:25:47.000 And what happened to us Vietnam veterans that came into law enforcement, we had this guilt trip that we were still looking for that bullet that we missed in Vietnam.
02:25:55.000 And the majority of us went into law enforcement.
02:25:59.000 And I remember coming back from several operations in South America, coming back and we're going on a raid and you know, I'm strapped for bear, man.
02:26:10.000 My tail, flesh, my face, you know, I got my knives, I got my guns, and I got... And people says, what are you doing?
02:26:17.000 I says, well, we're going on a raid.
02:26:19.000 He says, you don't need all that stuff to go on a raid.
02:26:21.000 But see, the instinct of survival, the thing about when you suffer from PTSD, it's with you for the rest of your life.
02:26:28.000 I go to the VA on a daily, or not daily basis, but on a monthly basis, and I've got Vietnam Vets telling me that PTSD will never go away.
02:26:37.000 And people say, why do you live in the past?
02:26:39.000 Because it's in our bones now.
02:26:41.000 It's like 15 seconds ago.
02:26:42.000 That war is like 15 seconds ago for you.
02:26:44.000 Exactly, and it's in our blood.
02:26:45.000 It's never going to go away, and that's what the spouses are not going to be able to understand.
02:26:50.000 The fathers, the mothers.
02:26:51.000 You know, I knew it because I saw it in my dad.
02:26:55.000 My dad was shot six times in the Philippines.
02:26:58.000 And he was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.
02:27:00.000 And we couldn't understand what it was.
02:27:03.000 Then I grew on to it and I became just like him.
02:27:06.000 So, it does happen.
02:27:07.000 And listen, I appreciate your call, sir.
02:27:09.000 Call us again sometime.
02:27:09.000 Interesting story.
02:27:10.000 Tell us more about Iraq.
02:27:12.000 We'll talk to Dave, John, and Dave, and many others.
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02:31:00.000 I can't get relief.
02:31:01.000 There must be some kind of way out of here Set a joker to the thief There's too much confusion There's too much confusion I can't get relief I can't get no relief I like the line in this song where it says There are many here among us Who believe that life is but a joke But you and I, we've been through that And we say, I love you You've got one life to live.
02:31:29.000 You should do the right thing.
02:31:31.000 You should stand up against evil and corruption.
02:31:33.000 And people go, oh, that's so good.
02:31:35.000 Oh, you're such a hero.
02:31:36.000 Sally Castillo or Alex Jones, thank you for fighting them.
02:31:39.000 I don't ever think I even really had a choice.
02:31:41.000 I mean, you finally got a bunch of sicko killers that like to torture innocent people and ship heroin and cocaine into our country, and then put our kids in prison, and do all of this, and they're putting up cameras everywhere, and they're taking our... I mean, how... Sully, I mean, is it... is it instinctive for you to fight this?
02:31:57.000 I don't... I mean, you're just doing what you're like a fish.
02:31:59.000 You're swimming in water.
02:32:00.000 Nobody says he's a hero for swimming.
02:32:02.000 Absolutely not, and it's got nothing to do with me.
02:32:05.000 It's about my kids and about my grandkids.
02:32:07.000 That's what it's going to be all about.
02:32:09.000 You know, I didn't start talking about this when I left the agency.
02:32:13.000 I started talking and writing reports during when I was an agent, and that was the difference between myself and other people now that are coming forward to talk.
02:32:23.000 I was never scared to talk about it and educate the people about what happened.
02:32:31.000 You know, it's so sad that because the people you report this are not going to take it forward and they'll go on what was known as the black hole.
02:32:37.000 Why do you think they killed Gary Webb?
02:32:40.000 Well, I think it came to a point with Gary, my opinion is the fact that, you know, you can't shoot yourself twice in the head.
02:32:46.000 I mean, I really don't care who says what.
02:32:48.000 But Gary, you know, I saw it in Central America and I saw it in South America.
02:32:54.000 There's a choice.
02:32:57.000 Either you take yourself out or they'll take your family out for you.
02:33:00.000 It's either you do it or we do it for you.
02:33:02.000 And I think Gary knew that he had to do what he had to do.
02:33:06.000 And yeah, he left messages.
02:33:09.000 He left suicide notes or whatever.
02:33:12.000 But that was part of the whole thing.
02:33:14.000 And you know, he's not the only one that's happened to.
02:33:17.000 It's happened to other people.
02:33:18.000 Well, I mean, from the famous reports, there's hundreds of them that have been documented.
02:33:21.000 They just, you walk in, it's dark, and they go, hey, hands up, sit down over here.
02:33:26.000 They tie you up, and they say, listen, we're going to let you go, I want you to write a note, and if you don't, we're going to kill your whole family.
02:33:32.000 Exactly, and that happens all the time.
02:33:34.000 Right now, the SEPTAs came into Texas, and they found out that there were A couple of federal agents working in cahoots with one of the cartels and they went up and knocked on the front doors of their homes, federal agents, and they told them, look, you cease or we're going to take you out.
02:33:53.000 Sure enough, two weeks later, those agents asked for a transfer out of the valley.
02:33:58.000 Tell folks who Los Santos is for those that don't know.
02:34:01.000 Los Santos are all military individuals that work for different governments who are now hired by the cartels to be the enforcers of their operations and so forth and training and you know they train here in South Texas, they train in Mexico and they got Israelis working for them, training them in both sides of the border and you know It's huge.
02:34:26.000 Oh, our good friends, the Israelis, as usual.
02:34:28.000 They've always been there.
02:34:29.000 And they're there now, right now, helping out, training those people and so forth.
02:34:34.000 And they're using our military, former military guys, to train them.
02:34:38.000 I, myself, bin Alfred, have a million dollars to go down there and train the setters.
02:34:43.000 And there's no way in the world I would ever do that.
02:34:46.000 And, you know, it's just I'm fighting the so-called war on drugs.
02:34:50.000 And there's these people that they feel they have the power to do anything in this world.
02:34:55.000 In South Texas, the drug dealers are God.
02:34:59.000 Well they walk on water and and basically they're very well protected they got people on their payroll from the U.S.
02:35:04.000 Attorney's Office to uh... FBI agents to DEA agents uh... who sells them to uh... tells them when the next rates coming in, you know.
02:35:14.000 And they just serpico good people every day.
02:35:16.000 Every day, absolutely.
02:35:17.000 And they take them and the money's huge.
02:35:20.000 There's no way they're gonna say no to it, you know.
02:35:24.000 As Kiki Camarena once said, it's plomo or plata.
02:35:27.000 It's either the bullet or money.
02:35:30.000 Well, that's what the globalists, that's what Bush, Dick Cheney told the Taliban, either a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs.
02:35:38.000 Exactly.
02:35:38.000 And that's what happened.
02:35:39.000 And the Taliban is back in power now in Afghanistan.
02:35:42.000 And we're losing Afghanistan as we speak now.
02:35:47.000 Going back to the drug trade, we've got more drugs coming out of Afghanistan, the biggest crop cultivated ever, and the heroin coming out of Afghanistan.
02:35:57.000 Well, I mean, there's no doubt, but I want your words.
02:36:00.000 But from all the research I've done, all the agents that have gone public, the majority of the narcotics that come in are really licensed or certified.
02:36:07.000 That is, cartels have to pay their cut longer through certain banks.
02:36:10.000 And then another percentage, our government physically ships it in themselves, but most of it is just licensed by criminal elements of our government.
02:36:17.000 And the sick thing is I've tracked the big five private prison industries, the Bushes own large stock and tube.
02:36:25.000 And they literally are connected to the big drug banks.
02:36:27.000 So the big drug banks finance the prisons, the cops raid people's houses, take our kids to jail for using their drugs, and then they're put in prisons working for 20 cents an hour displacing everybody else's jobs.
02:36:39.000 People are worried about illegal aliens, what about all the prisoners driving down the wages?
02:36:43.000 And so literally the drug dealers are our government and they own the prisons and then make money on both ends of it.
02:36:49.000 And so I guess the way to end this is to force decriminalization, which the government will never allow because they're dealing the drugs.
02:36:57.000 Absolutely right.
02:36:59.000 People say, well, you know, marijuana never hurt anybody.
02:37:01.000 And, you know, if you were to take marijuana off the streets tomorrow, then what would people do?
02:37:06.000 They're going to go buy a beer.
02:37:08.000 And if you were to legalize marijuana, the corporate America on liquor and beer are not going to allow that, because instead of buying a $3 beer, you'll buy a $0.50 joint and light up and get high.
02:37:20.000 And they're not going to tolerate that.
02:37:22.000 And it's, you know, America's gotten now more addicted to drug money than they are to drugs.
02:37:27.000 I mean, we have more, triple the heroin, double the cocaine we had just 12 years ago.
02:37:32.000 We've gone from 1 million in prison to over 7 million in the system, 4 million behind bars.
02:37:37.000 I mean, it's designed to destroy the country.
02:37:40.000 Exactly.
02:37:41.000 And that's what's going to happen.
02:37:42.000 It's going to continue to do it.
02:37:44.000 You know, you've got to remember, we spend billions of dollars in resource countries like Colombia and Peru, and we can't make a dent.
02:37:50.000 It's got to tell you that there's something wrong with this picture.
02:37:52.000 This is not working.
02:37:53.000 And it's never going to work.
02:37:54.000 That's what I've always said.
02:37:55.000 There's never been a war on drugs.
02:37:56.000 It's not working from a normal person's view, but for the government and the drug dealers, this is great.
02:38:01.000 It's all about money and they don't care if it hurts your grandkids or your fifth graders or whatever.
02:38:07.000 Well, the truth is, if you decriminalized it, then there wouldn't even be a conduit to bring it in because there wouldn't be money.
02:38:14.000 If you just regulated it and made it legal, that would take it out of the black market and then make it all transparent.
02:38:19.000 Exactly.
02:38:20.000 And so that's not going to happen.
02:38:21.000 You've got to remember, we've got the best intelligence network in the world.
02:38:24.000 We can find out by satellite photos where every cocaine lab there is in the Amazon and we could take them out with any kind of missiles or whatever.
02:38:34.000 But we're not going to do that because it's a big production of coca that we need.
02:38:38.000 In fact, the only stuff that gets up, I've seen the satellite maps and it's come out in investigative reports where they show satellite maps of where they're supposed to spray, where they're supposed to raid, and it's the exact line.
02:38:48.000 Okay, you spray all the commies' fields, but all of our fields you leave alone.
02:38:51.000 Exactly, and that's happening in Colombia with the paramilitary and the guerrilla networks up there.
02:38:58.000 You know, they're always playing the guerrillas for being involved in drug trafficking.
02:39:01.000 But really, it's like our government's Coke and the Communist are Pepsi, and Coke is literally coming in spraying Pepsi's fields.
02:39:08.000 Exactly, and you know, it's all part of the U.S.
02:39:11.000 government.
02:39:11.000 It's all bogus, phony war on drugs.
02:39:17.000 But they love it.
02:39:18.000 They love to catch your teenager with some ecstasy shipped in from Israel or Europe.
02:39:22.000 They love to catch them with some cocaine.
02:39:25.000 Young people, it's not rebellious.
02:39:26.000 It's not cool.
02:39:27.000 Don't use it.
02:39:28.000 Don't use George Bush's products.
02:39:30.000 You want to hurt these people, be straight, be strong.
02:39:33.000 But please don't use their products.
02:39:35.000 But the sick thing is, you use their products, then they put you in their prisons for using their products.
02:39:40.000 You become a prostitute to them and that's it.
02:39:40.000 That's right.
02:39:43.000 Well, this is how they legalize slavery again.
02:39:45.000 They bring something in, put it out everywhere, hype it with Hollywood.
02:39:48.000 The young people use it and that's their excuse to make you a slave.
02:39:51.000 That's what happened in South Central with the blacks back in the 80s when the CIA brought in all this cocaine and gave it to Ricky Ross in consignment, and he cornered the market.
02:40:01.000 He was a Walmart of crack, and that's what happened.
02:40:05.000 Exactly.
02:40:05.000 You're going to be speaking tonight, and then we're about to go to your calls here.
02:40:09.000 Ex-DEA agent Sella Castillo exposing the false war on drugs and the criminals still behind it.
02:40:15.000 That's Tuesday night tonight, September 26th, 7 p.m. at the Texas Union Ballroom.
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02:40:26.000 I wish I could go, but I haven't seen my family in days as usual, so I need to get home.
02:40:31.000 But Kevin Smith is going to be down there tonight videotaping.
02:40:34.000 Rob Jacobson is going to be down there videotaping.
02:40:35.000 We're going to put this on the web.
02:40:37.000 CIA, drug running, Oliver North, torture, Negroponte, death squads, Reagan Bush Senior, Texas Union tonight.
02:40:46.000 And then, are you going to be there at Brave New Books beforehand or after?
02:40:52.000 Probably it's going to be after.
02:40:53.000 We're going to have a book signing at the store.
02:40:55.000 Probably about 9 o'clock or something?
02:40:57.000 Yeah, 9.30.
02:40:58.000 And it's very close to the event.
02:41:01.000 Sure.
02:41:01.000 Okay.
02:41:02.000 Well, certainly, folks, you should go to that.
02:41:04.000 Sully's going to have a slideshow.
02:41:06.000 We're going to videotape it, if that's alright, and try to put it out on local TV so folks can see it and also get the crowd's questions.
02:41:12.000 Okay, let's go to the calls.
02:41:13.000 Dave in Ohio, then John, Dave, Bill, Clay, and others.
02:41:16.000 Hi, how are you doing, Alex, today?
02:41:16.000 Go ahead, Dave.
02:41:18.000 Good, sir.
02:41:19.000 Hey, I just want to thank you for what you're doing.
02:41:23.000 I'm essentially a first-time caller, but I have listened to your program probably essentially every day for the last couple of months.
02:41:29.000 I want to let you know that I'm on board, and I think that 9-11 was an inside job.
02:41:35.000 We have a small group of people here in Ohio, in the southwest section of Ohio, and we're trying to get the word out.
02:41:42.000 We're trying to get people to just understand what the New World Order is all about, what they're doing.
02:41:48.000 When you talked to Mr. Chavez earlier today, I guess my question would be, and you're still trying to verify parts of the story just to make sure that everything is on the up and up, but my question would be... Well, you know, the criticism of him has not been legitimate, is my point.
02:42:04.000 He was in the military, he was where he said he was, this is what he saw.
02:42:07.000 He wrote a letter to the editor and started all of this.
02:42:09.000 Right, and I guess my thing is, we're in Ohio and he's in Ohio, and I was wondering, you know, I'm willing to leave my email address to you guys in the event that maybe he can... Sir, his phone number... He put his phone number out publicly.
02:42:21.000 Just type in Sergeant Chavez Testimony 911.
02:42:25.000 You'll find his letter to the editor.
02:42:26.000 You can call him.
02:42:28.000 Okay, because the little group that we have, we want to get the word out as much as possible because... Sure, but I'm just saying, go online, you can get his phone number.
02:42:36.000 Okay, we have small kids... And I think you ought to contact him.
02:42:39.000 Yeah, we're just trying to fight this thing and get the word out to as many people as we possibly can.
02:42:42.000 Well, good, sir.
02:42:43.000 Keep it up.
02:42:44.000 I know we've got several great affiliates in Ohio and a really exploding audience there, so tell everybody about the show and I appreciate your call, sir.
02:42:54.000 I know you were in the green room earlier back there.
02:42:57.000 So Costello, what did you think of the interview with Mr. Chavez we had on?
02:43:02.000 It's great, great.
02:43:03.000 And you know, he emphasized that he has no documents, but the fact that he was there, he was present, and that means a lot.
02:43:10.000 It's nothing like having a night witness to To an atrocity that happened and you know, you were there, you saw it.
02:43:17.000 So there's no two ways about it about his credibility.
02:43:19.000 Well, we know the government was running the drills, we know Cheney was in control, we know he ordered to stand down.
02:43:23.000 All that's already been admitted and he's saying, yeah, I was at CENTCOM, it's admitted he was at CENTCOM and this is what I heard.
02:43:29.000 Exactly, and you know, why should they retaliate against him for telling the truth?
02:43:34.000 Let's go ahead and take a call.
02:43:37.000 John in Ohio, another call from Ohio.
02:43:39.000 You're on the air, welcome.
02:43:41.000 Yes, I think the media is the real problem.
02:43:43.000 The media is the real problem here.
02:43:44.000 I think as long as people rely on the media, and I think somebody in the CIA once said, more important than all the armies, more important than all the bullets, are the disinformation that we can... Yeah, the Pentagon has said recently that InfoWars psychological operations is 90% of their strategy.
02:44:03.000 Yeah, and I listen to you and I listen to what I consider some honest people on the left, like WorkersOrg and WSWS.org.
02:44:09.000 And you won't hear anything about this Luis Posada saga, this mass murderer, this airline bomber, this assassin, this man who planned to blow up Panama University to kill Castro because he was speaking there.
02:44:24.000 He was convicted.
02:44:25.000 He was brought to this country.
02:44:26.000 He's now being in the process of being freed.
02:44:29.000 And that process began on the very day that Bush was saying, we will not tolerate any country that harbors terrorists.
02:44:34.000 In his effort to try to justify this phony war on terrorism, the media completely has been blacking information along these lines out because it would show totally how phony this war on drugs, war on terrorism is.
02:44:50.000 Supporting terrorist, uh, heroes in this country.
02:44:52.000 The war on drugs, the war on terror, it's all the war on our freedoms.
02:44:56.000 They control the drugs, they control the terror, these are the catalysts to introduce us into slavery in the name of keeping us safe.
02:45:03.000 And why aren't we told, for instance, that people like Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada are treated as heroes in this country, being harbored after being trained by the CIA to perpetrate 45 years of terrorism against Cuba, I think it was about eight years ago, all the media was down in Cuba.
02:45:21.000 They had people from around the world, jurists and others, the victims of U.S.
02:45:25.000 terrorism there.
02:45:26.000 And not a word of it was mentioned by the media, because again, this would blow the whole paradigm pretense of the Bush administration that we're fighting terrorism around the world, when in fact we're supporting it.
02:45:37.000 And the people that are trying to prevent that are now in prison in this country, some Cubans, We've tried to infiltrate some of these CIA-connected terrorist groups in Miami.
02:45:48.000 They went, in good faith, to the FBI, along with the Cuban government, to give them this information, I think naively, and instead of them going after these terrorists predictably, they were arrested.
02:45:58.000 Sure, John, let me get a comment from Shelley on what you said.
02:46:01.000 Yeah, those are known as the Cuban Fives that have been arrested and detained here in the U.S.
02:46:06.000 and being charged with Terrorists act against uh... the cuban community down in in florida and and that's a problem and you know it's all political uh... we got jeff bush uh... the governor up there who maybe run for president and uh... he needs that community up there to support him well i mean listen i support the cuban community community i don't support fidel castro but at the same time they're just as evil or worse because you know they claim they can do anything to fight castro
02:46:33.000 And, you know, the Miami Herald has a Spanish version, found out five of its employees were on secret payroll and were CIA.
02:46:41.000 Well, that's illegal.
02:46:43.000 You know, Bush has spent $1.6 billion on fake news.
02:46:45.000 So they fire them and the Cubans go absolutely crazy.
02:46:48.000 They start protesting and pulling their subscriptions when all the Miami Herald's doing is what it's supposed to.
02:46:55.000 You're not supposed to have secret government agents writing news articles.
02:46:58.000 Exactly, and being paid for it.
02:47:01.000 They were getting paid pretty good money for reporting.
02:47:04.000 It's like Armstrong-Williams line.
02:47:07.000 They've got thousands of reporters on the payroll, folks.
02:47:10.000 That's the kind of stuff Cuba does, where they have these government reporters, but at least in Cuba they admit they're government reporters.
02:47:18.000 I mean, exactly.
02:47:19.000 In Venezuela, the same thing.
02:47:20.000 You know, whatever Chavez is doing, we're doing it worst.
02:47:25.000 Well, I know this.
02:47:26.000 I've talked to people who have been down there, and I've seen the reports.
02:47:28.000 Chavez walks right into a place.
02:47:29.000 They don't search anybody.
02:47:30.000 They let in there.
02:47:32.000 He'll speak to thousands of people, just like Saddam would get up in front of, you know, 500, 2000 people with machine guns.
02:47:38.000 But Bush, you know, they shut down half of New York when he goes there.
02:47:40.000 And I'm not defending Saddam Hussein.
02:47:42.000 He was a government agent of the U.S.
02:47:43.000 The point is, you know, how can Chavez go on TV every week and take unscreened phone calls and then go into rooms without people being searched?
02:47:52.000 And, you know, how can Saddam do it?
02:47:53.000 But then in our country, the president's guarded like he's a Roman emperor.
02:47:59.000 Exactly, and why haven't we heard that these people that are being harbored here, these terrorists, Orlando Bosch and Posada, have perpetrated terrorism right in Washington, one of the worst acts of terrorism.
02:48:12.000 This is the 30th anniversary of blowing up a car bomb.
02:48:15.000 By car bomb, the foreign minister of Chile was overthrown by the CIA, and these people are treated as heroes in this country, actually perpetrating airline bombings and terrorism against Our own country of foreign ministries.
02:48:28.000 I know.
02:48:29.000 Listen, I appreciate your call.
02:48:30.000 We'll come back and talk to Dave, Bill, and Clay.
02:48:32.000 That'll be it for calls.
02:48:33.000 I'll also briefly give you the toll-free number and website to get my new film, Terror Storm.
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02:51:47.000 From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
02:51:54.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
02:51:57.000 Final segment, my friends, on this Live Tuesday edition.
02:52:02.000 In the first hour, I got into Jesse Ventura.
02:52:05.000 In my interview with him last night, he went public with his questions of the official 9-11 story, doubting it, and talked about some issues he'd never talked about before.
02:52:12.000 That'll be going up tonight in an article this afternoon.
02:52:15.000 Be sure to get it and spread it to the four winds.
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02:52:59.000 Let's take quickly three final calls.
02:53:01.000 I want to get you all on board here.
02:53:02.000 Dave in California, then Bill and Clay.
02:53:04.000 Dave, go ahead.
02:53:05.000 Good morning, Alex.
02:53:06.000 It's always a pleasure and inspiration to speak to you and your guests.
02:53:09.000 Thank you.
02:53:09.000 What's on your mind?
02:53:10.000 It's an honor to speak to you.
02:53:11.000 I want to cut to the chase here.
02:53:13.000 George Herbert Walker Bush.
02:53:15.000 We know Prescott Bush was a big Nazi, and George I, and Prescott were probably involved in bringing Nazi war criminals in after World War II, and then in 1947, the NSA guy goes in authorizing presidential covert activity, and boom, boom, boom, CIA, Northwoods, Bay of Pigs, JFK, Noriega, Iraq, Iran-Contra, El Salvador, death squads, torture, you name it.
02:53:37.000 You know, nukes, bioweapons, crack, and 9-11.
02:53:39.000 And now they're using terror to turn us into Nazi Germany.
02:53:42.000 There you go.
02:53:43.000 So I was just wondering, Aseli, what's your short take on George Herbert Walker Bush?
02:53:48.000 He's an evil person.
02:53:50.000 I'll do what Uwe Chavez said.
02:53:51.000 He's the devil.
02:53:53.000 And, you know, he stinks.
02:53:55.000 And, you know, the day he dies is when people are going to say he's a person that should have never been born.
02:54:01.000 Because he had brought a lot of pain to Latin America with his death squads and the drug trafficking with his people, Oliver North, Felix Rodriguez, Posadas, and a whole bunch of other people.
02:54:15.000 And of course, at the end of the day, he ended up pardoning at least eight of those individuals that were involved in this atrocity.
02:54:23.000 And North gets to prance around like a conservative.
02:54:26.000 Exactly.
02:54:26.000 You know, he lied to Congress.
02:54:27.000 He's a convicted felon.
02:54:28.000 I don't care what anybody says.
02:54:30.000 He was convicted.
02:54:31.000 and uh... you know later it was dismissed but the you know he's he's price was uh... to go work for uh... fox news and uh... uh... which is a known government front exactly and and and and i'll look at snow now white house press secretary yeah okay caller thank you great call call me back tomorrow as your great call and i'm sorry to cut you short bill in new jersey go ahead city mayor michael bloomberg is attending a mayor's meeting in pennsylvania today uh... discussing tougher gun laws
02:55:00.000 Now, we know this gentleman has sued gun dealers in the southern states and forced two... He's already got, basically, a gun ban in New York.
02:55:08.000 What else does he want?
02:55:08.000 Or is he trying to do it in other states?
02:55:10.000 He's trying to spread this throughout the nation.
02:55:12.000 He's a cockroach.
02:55:17.000 Caller, go ahead and finish up.
02:55:18.000 Okay, well he has already gotten two gun dealers in the southern states, I believe one in Georgia, one in North Carolina, to give over their records and keep new records to be shared with the New York City Police Department.
02:55:31.000 That's right, New York and Chicago are saying they're going to act as national databases for the BATF as a way to get around the federal law.
02:55:40.000 Yeah, he's also been suing gun dealers as well.
02:55:43.000 What do you expect from a Republican?
02:55:44.000 Thanks for the call.
02:55:46.000 I mean, look at Pataki, look at Bush.
02:55:47.000 They're all a bunch of gun-grabbing trash.
02:55:49.000 They've got a bunch of idiots with Bush stickers on their cars.
02:55:52.000 Clay in Florida, you've got 30 seconds, go ahead.
02:55:55.000 Alex, it's Clay.
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02:56:24.000 God bless you all.
02:56:24.000 Thanks, Sully.