In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones talks about 9/11, the Gulf of Tonkin, the JFK assassination, and the Iraq War. He is joined by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and Vicki Karp.
00:00:34.000of September 2006 and we're going to be live here for the next three hours coming up in 30 minutes at the bottom of this hour I'm gonna air the first half of a 20-minute interview we put together that we did with Jesse Ventura two days ago or a day and a half ago in San Antonio.
00:00:57.000We'll air the first 10 minutes of the interview that gets into 9-11, Gulf of Tonkin, the JFK assassination, and then at the bottom of the next hour, we will play the second half of the interview with Jesse Ventura.
00:01:13.000There's also about 5, 6, 7 minutes more.
00:01:18.000It's really about a 27-minute interview that we'll try to play for you tomorrow.
00:01:24.000There's just not time to play it all today, but we'll play the first two big chunks Coming up again in 30 minutes and then at the bottom of the second hour.
00:01:34.000We're doing it at the bottom of the second hour because we have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who joins us about once a month coming on.
00:01:42.000He's written some amazing new articles and we're really excited about the information he's bringing forward.
00:01:52.000One headline is, Why Bush Will Nuke Iran?
00:02:01.000So we'll be going over all three of those stories with Paul Craig Roberts, the former Chief Economist at the Treasury under Ronald Reagan, the father of Reaganomics, exposing the fact that neocons are anything but conservative.
00:02:19.000That is coming up in about 57 minutes from now.
00:02:26.000Then in the third hour, we're joined by a local activist who's now had a national effect, and she's a great lady, Vicki Karp.
00:02:37.000High Tech Election Theft in America, and she'll be joining us in studio in the third hour, so definitely, definitely stay with us for that.
00:02:51.000In the meantime, I'm going to run through the news, and I was sitting here today getting ready for the broadcast, and there's so much news.
00:03:01.000I get to the point where my head starts spinning.
00:03:02.000I don't know what to cover first, and I can't just cover everything lightly, because that doesn't give it justice, and we don't get into enough of the meat and potatoes, the actual fascia that makes this thing up.
00:03:30.000declassifies small portion of controversial security report.
00:03:34.000Bush had tried to block its release ever since April, but when he had trouble doing it, he went ahead under national security and excised large portions of it.
00:03:42.000So you think the national assessment exposing the fact that Iraq has generated a true engine of global resistance to The hegemon of those that control this country.
00:04:12.000And somehow, in the lion's gut, chewed up in little pieces, the average American still thinks that they're physically part of the empire, and they swagger around, sticking their chest out and bugging their eyes out as all their freedoms are flushed down the toilet, as their future is eviscerated.
00:04:29.000Perez Musharraf says Iraq war makes the world more dangerous.
00:04:36.000Meanwhile, the Puppet leader of Iraq says U.S.
00:04:40.000troop presence keeps neighbors from invading Iraq.
00:04:42.000I want to parallel those two articles.
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00:06:11.000But how do you protect your family during such a crisis?
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00:08:16.000My wife was asking me to respond to emails on the subject.
00:08:20.000Kevin in here producing was asking me to respond to it.
00:08:23.000Folks on the street walked up to me yesterday and asked me about it.
00:08:27.000So it must be a huge issue and I've dropped the ball.
00:08:31.000French President Jean Chirac a couple weeks ago released sections of a report he'd gotten that Osama Bin Laden had died shortly after 9-11 from a disease.
00:08:48.000And it wasn't kidney failure, it was supposedly, what, typhus.
00:08:53.000And remember back in the 2004 election, We weren't the only ones.
00:08:59.000I mean, it was Walter Cronkite, it was Hillary Clinton, it was all these bigwigs in the Democratic Party going out and saying, listen, we've got intel that, it was a whole bunch of them, that Bush has Bin Laden's dead body on ice and is planning to roll him out.
00:09:16.000That was a quote by Cronkite, that they have him quote on ice.
00:09:55.000In the White House, and I'm not going to say how the information came to me, other than imagine people are at parties, there's a lot of people in the Bush Administration who live here in Austin, you go to a gala, a function, you're going to see them.
00:10:10.000Back when Bush was here, the Governor, you'd see them all over.
00:10:13.000And so a lot of his people live here in Austin, live around Austin, or have houses here, summer houses here, winter houses, whatever.
00:10:21.000I guess they'd be winter houses, it's warm down here.
00:10:26.000Most of them live in D.C., but then come down here during the winter and during the summer sometimes.
00:10:32.000But to make a long story short, I was told that Bin Laden died of kidney failure shortly after September 11th, and that they have his body literally frozen as an ace in the hole to roll out whenever they need to.
00:10:55.000And this came from, again, a high-level individual in the Bush administration.
00:11:00.000And I'm going to just leave it right there.
00:11:26.000I go public with a report from the source.
00:11:29.000And then, two years later, two and a half years later, in late 2004, it's all over CNN, it's all over Fox.
00:11:38.000I mean, it's seriously being discussed.
00:11:40.000Well, it's back in the news, again, that Karl Rove's October surprise is Osama Bin Laden's dead body.
00:11:50.000Frankly, I don't know if it's true, I don't know if it's accurate, and I don't like to rumor monger here, but Jacques Chirac has come out and said he died, and everyone is asking me, is Bin Laden really dead?
00:12:09.000And there's these discussions, well here's an AP article, false rumors mark hunt for Bin Laden.
00:12:17.000He was blown up in the caves of Tora Bora.
00:12:19.000He was on dialysis and dying of kidney disease.
00:12:21.000He was in the hands of Pakistani intelligence about to be turned over to the United States.
00:13:15.000Go home, don't stay too late and guess what?
00:13:18.000I came in this morning and he was here and he'd been busy with the hours of footage we shot of Ventura and the reason it's hours is when you got three cameras on somebody for a 27 minute interview and you got stuff outside interviewing him and you got stuff of him on the up there on the raised dais, you know, sign autographs.
00:13:46.000The Ventura interview will be up on the Internet in the next three or four hours.
00:13:55.000When the show ends today, Paul Watson is going to have a big report with Ventura's actual quotes where he comes out and goes public about 9-11 and questioning and brings up Northwoods, a lot of other key issues.
00:14:07.000But we're going to be playing the audio of that coming up in 15 minutes.
00:14:14.000We'll play the first half of it and then at the bottom of the next hour play the second half of it.
00:14:28.000In the early 60s, the Pentagon had an operation called Operation Northwoods, and it never came to reality, but it was on the table that our military would attack certain cities within the United States and make it look like Cuba did it to justify an invasion of Cuba.
00:14:48.000It never happened, but just the simple fact that they contemplated it, and it was actually on the table in the Pentagon, I find that just very disturbing.
00:14:58.000that they would even consider using our military to try to justify an invasion of another country.
00:15:06.000They did speak on Jay Leno according to my recollection.
00:15:09.000We'll come back and get into the rest of that at the bottom of the hour.
00:15:19.000He was blown up in the caves of Tora Bora.
00:15:24.000He was on dialysis and dying of kidney disease.
00:15:27.000He was in the hands of Pakistani intelligence and about to be turned over to the United States.
00:15:32.000Remembers of Osama Bin Laden's death or capture go back years and they have always proved greatly exaggerated.
00:15:38.000The latest came Saturday when a leaked French intelligence document citing an unusually reliable source to the Saudi Secret Service was convinced the 52-year-old Al-Qaeda terror chief had died of typhoid Last month in Pakistan.
00:15:54.000No, the tridiac kidney failure in late 2001, early 2002.
00:16:00.000Officials from Riyadh to Paris to Washington rushed to insist they had nothing to substantiate the report, but not before news of it reached every corner of the globe and renewed the debate about why the world's largest dragnet has failed to get this man.
00:16:50.000And it came out that Saddam, indeed, if you can believe that's the real Saddam, had been captured by the Kurds three weeks before, had been in custody, that has been now admitted, but again, back in the newspaper, and they went and stuck him in that hole, after he'd already been in custody and beat up and disheveled, to pull him out to show the Marines capturing him.
00:17:11.000And on the tape is the General walking around on CNN, even slipped out going, men, now here's the official story.
00:18:08.000She's right here at the hospital, and they waited two days, got Jerry Bruckheimer, the producer, on the phone.
00:18:14.000He scripted to CENTCOM, based in Qatar, Qatar, however you want to pronounce it.
00:18:21.000And told them how to run the operation, how to film over sat TV.
00:18:26.000He even told the Delta Commanders that went in how to rescue, how to make it look, how to kick doors down.
00:18:32.000And they went and beat up and kicked down doors and scared her half to death and she climbed under and then they told her, here's the story.
00:18:39.000Okay, you fought single-handedly and the men all fell down and died and you killed five of the Iraqis and then you fought them with your bayonet crawling.
00:18:50.000And she said, well none of that's true.
00:19:25.000And someone in a black uniform popped up over the fence and double-tapped him to the head.
00:19:30.000That story was really important to the Pentagon.
00:19:34.000I mean, they were killing that whole unit.
00:19:36.000And Lynch got smart and came out and said, before they killed her, it would have been, the hero died in a car wreck before, you know, she could blow the whistle.
00:19:43.000She came out and said, it's all a fable!
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00:24:14.000Dr. Paul Craig Roberts joins us with his monthly visit.
00:24:59.000A few of them had shot their mouths off in Message rooms, message boards, online, and it turned out that you can't make those type of explosives in even two or three hours in a laboratory.
00:25:13.000You have to mix them all and then let it dry.
00:25:17.000Several inches of liquid has to then evaporate and it takes conservatively five or six hours.
00:25:23.000We've had bomb experts on this broadcast to discuss it.
00:25:27.000Former top British bomb experts that taught it in the military.
00:25:31.000And of course that's now all come out in the press, but back of the paper after the hoax has already been engaged in.
00:25:37.000So they hoax about Bin Laden dying last month, when really my intel is he's been dead for over four and a half years.
00:25:55.000Blue chip stocks rose and the Dow Jones Industrial Average neared its record high.
00:25:59.000Closed Wednesday as investors shrugged off a lackluster durable goods report and appeared satisfied with the increase in new home sales, despite the fact that they dropped.
00:26:08.000In mid-morning trading, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was up 18.41 or 0.16 at 11,687.80, just about 35 points away from its record high close of 11,722.98.
00:26:30.000They have more than doubled the money supply since 2000.
00:26:36.000When, what, six, eight months ago, Greenspan left, he had admittedly doubled the money supply in the first six years of Bush's administration.
00:26:46.000Bernanke, the new Fed chairman, is saying he's going to double it in the next two years, that he made the money supply number secret for the first time since the Federal Reserve took over in 1913.
00:26:56.000They're saying there may be more than a double in the next two years.
00:26:59.000So this creates, it's like when somebody's dying, going into shock, and they're going to die anyways, and they just keep pumping them full of adrenaline, pumping them full of other drugs.
00:27:07.000I watched my friend die just a few months ago like this.
00:27:09.000They were saying, look, we can keep giving him these drugs, jacking him up, but the doses get bigger and bigger each time.
00:27:13.000Now his arteries and veins are collapsing, and at that point they pumped him full of drugs, it didn't matter, he still died.
00:27:19.000Died with his eyes wide open, fully conscious.
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00:34:09.000More of that news starting to come out.
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00:37:23.000Okay, here is the first half of the interview I did with Jesse Ventura, the former governor, the actor of the Navy SEAL, and of course professional wrestler, entertainer, who is an icon in this country and worldwide.
00:37:39.000And he sat down with us for over 20 minutes inside the little office there at the restaurant slash bar that he had been there giving a speech and signing autographs.
00:37:49.000And he talked about 9-11, he talked about JFK, he talked about a lot, and why he does question the official story.
00:37:56.000and we appreciated You said you'd spend ten minutes with each person.
00:37:59.000I've never seen anything like that in my life.
00:38:24.000Mr. Ventura, I'm just going to tell you right off the bat, I became a big supporter of you when I saw the clip online in the summer of 2003 It was heartfelt, it was energy, it was pure truth.
00:38:36.000I saw you tell people thanks for standing up for the truth, thanks for standing up for what's right.
00:38:40.000You were on Jay Leno, you talked about Gulf of Tonkin, since then it's been declassified, it was all stage.
00:38:44.000You obviously knew you were inside all of that.
00:38:47.000I would just like to get Your view, your take on 9-11, Gulf of Tonkin, JFK, all of it.
00:38:53.000Well, I think the most interesting thing to talk about today is if people aren't aware that due to the Freedom of Information Act, in the early 60s, the Pentagon had an operation called Operation Northwoods.
00:39:10.000And it never came to reality, but it was on the table that Our military would attack certain cities within the United States and make it look like Cuba did it to justify an invasion of Cuba.
00:39:25.000It never happened, but just the simple fact that they contemplated it and it was actually on the table in the Pentagon, I find that just very disturbing.
00:39:35.000That they would even consider using our military to try to just To justify an invasion of another country.
00:39:42.000They did speak on Jay Leno, according to my recollection, about how Gulf of Tonkin was staged, how you were lied to, we were lied to, you lost a lot of friends.
00:39:51.000What was it like to learn that they had staged an event that didn't really happen to bring us into full-scale war in 64?
00:39:59.000What was it like when you realized that and you learned that?
00:40:01.000Well, it was very disappointing to believe in your country that they would lie to you to get into a war.
00:40:07.000That they would perpetrate a lie and that the media would go along with it.
00:40:19.000Government very much operates that way.
00:40:23.000I really learned about it when McNamara did his tour with film and he came to Harvard when I was teaching there.
00:40:29.000And they pretty much had to lock me up in a room so that I wouldn't confront him.
00:40:33.000What would you say to him if you were in a room with him?
00:40:37.000I would ask him why we were lied to and what the purpose was for it.
00:40:41.000The one thing I do question on 9-11 is the fact that if anyone's familiar with the Payne Stewart, the golfer, when he died, He was flying in a private plane, and they lost contact with that private plane out of Florida, and within 30 minutes they had a fighter jet up on the wing.
00:41:00.000And that fighter stayed with it all the way till it crashed in Nebraska, making sure that it didn't harm anyone.
00:41:06.000And the thing I questioned on 9-11 was simply the fact, where were our planes?
00:41:12.000When all this was going on, and planes were being hijacked an hour apart, and there were four of them to cover about a six hour space, At no time, to my knowledge, did we have any fighter planes up in the air.
00:41:29.000In light of the fact that there was a cover-up that got us into the Vietnam War, and there was, in my opinion, a cover-up of John Kennedy's assassination, I would just say that I don't believe it's beyond reason to not at least consider that the government certainly would do things like that.
00:41:45.000You're here, you know about Tom, can you know about Northwoods?
00:41:50.000Well, I know about those things from reading on Kennedy.
00:42:08.000But as far as me having any knowledge that we relied to, I don't.
00:42:13.000As far as JFK goes, well I've been studying that for 25 years, or 20 years I guess, or more now, and I don't believe for one minute the Warren Commission.
00:42:23.000I think that it's fraudulent in the fact that if you break it down to simplistic form, if Lee Harvey Oswald is who they told us he was, this little disgruntled Marine who became a Communist and decided to kill the President, Then why would all the information have to be locked up in national security and kept secret for 20 years?
00:42:54.000As far as the shots he did, three of them and the magic bullet in the head shot, I've been to Dealey Plaza and I don't think he could make the shots.
00:43:03.000In my opinion, because it was a difficult shot with a target going away from you and dropping, and not only that, he had to shoot through a tree.
00:43:11.000If you go up to the nest, you look and see this massive tree that's the same size today as it was back in 1963.
00:43:21.000I don't buy what their results, I don't buy that they That they deemed Oswald the killer and one of the main reasons is because in our country you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
00:43:35.000Lee Harvey Oswald has never been offered a trial in a court of law to determine whether he was guilty or innocent or not.
00:44:41.000Have you seen that footage of troops taking guns?
00:44:43.000It was also, I found very interesting, that Richard Nixon had the 82nd Airborne in there when the hurricane hit back in the 70s within 24 hours.
00:44:53.000And yet this president didn't do a thing for eight days, you know, before he reacted and sent troops in there.
00:45:00.000For people that say that, well, you can't blame President Bush, yes, I fully blame him for the hurricane.
00:45:08.000Because it covered more than one state.
00:45:11.000Anytime any tragedy like that encompasses more than one state, it immediately falls to federal jurisdiction.
00:45:18.000The other reason I blame George Bush for the hurricane and what happened afterwards is because the only people in our country capable logistically of handling a tragedy like that is the U.S.
00:45:33.000They're the only ones that logistically have the equipment to do it.
00:45:36.000It's just the fact that there were, you know, that The military is the only one capable of handling that type of disaster, and so they should have been called in immediately, and they weren't.
00:45:49.000So that tells me that the country can't protect you, you have to protect yourself.
00:45:54.000Your whole comment on how 9-11 has been used to set up, I believe it's a police state, what do you think is going to happen?
00:45:59.000Well, I don't know if it's a police state or not, the whole war on terrorism, but I do know that anytime the government tells you they're going to protect you, be prepared because you're going to lose your freedom and your rights.
00:46:13.000And I personally, my personal viewpoint is I'd rather deal with the terrorists than I would the loss of my freedom.
00:46:19.000And I think that ultimately, I hate to say this, we're winning on the battlefield, but I think the terrorists are winning the war because they're changing America.
00:46:28.000These were also the same people that told us there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
00:46:34.000So take it with a grain of salt, they were wrong once, they could be wrong again.
00:46:37.000You think they're wrong and they're lying premeditatedly?
00:47:10.000Coming up at the bottom, that is the middle of the next hour, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts joins us in about 14 minutes for a 30 minute News Update, and to give us his analysis on some of the current events that are shaping the world we live in right now, let me plunge back into some of the news.
00:47:36.000But before I do that, let me just have a program note.
00:47:39.000Again, for those that just joined us, that was my interview two nights ago with Jesse Ventura.
00:47:47.000Who was in San Antonio campaigning for the gubernatorial independent candidate, Kiki Friedman, who's running for governor.
00:47:55.000And coming up later today, we will have the interview, the 20-plus minute interview, where Jesse Ventura questions the official 9-11 fable and brings up Northwoods for the first time.
00:48:10.000That will be posted on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
00:48:14.000In fact, it's being uploaded right now to Google and YouTube, but it usually takes a few hours for them to, quote, approve all of that and then to go ahead and get it out there on the World Wide Web so you can start watching it for free.
00:48:42.000Fewer Americans are watching cable news than a year ago, and Fox News is suffering the biggest desertions according to figures posted Tuesday, September 26 at MediaBistro.com.
00:48:54.000That's one of the major news outlets that tracks the public ratings numbers.
00:48:59.000The numbers published by Media Bistro show 27% drop in Fox News total viewership during the day and 35% primetime during the third quarter of this year.
00:49:09.000Compared with the third quarter a year ago, the 2005 numbers probably were inflated by public interest in Hurricane Katrina.
00:49:19.000I would add that Patriot and 9-11 sites and Truth sites, our graphs are going straight up.
00:49:25.000Limbaugh, Hannity, Amiculture, Fox News, they're all going straight down.
00:49:32.000And this is a two-year trend, except for the month of Katrina and then all media spikes in.
00:49:38.000There's just more viewership, more people tuning in to news instead of entertainment.
00:49:42.000Fox News, however, lost more viewers than did other cable networks.
00:49:45.000The next closest were CNN, down 21% during the day, and Headline News, down 28% during prime time.
00:49:51.000Media Bistro also reported that Fox News Advantage over CNN and Key Age Group, 25-54 demographic group, also has shrunk based on graphs applied by CNN.
00:50:03.000The trend of Fox News ratings begins to look like the limbo rock song, How Low Can You Go?
00:50:16.000Every form of mainstream media continues.
00:50:18.000And normally the media, mainstream media only looks at itself in the last year or two.
00:50:24.000And so they go, oh look, we're down 20-something percent in the last year.
00:50:28.000And then you look at the year before, they're down 20-something percent.
00:50:30.000And you look at the year before, I mean, it is just a plunge.
00:50:34.000They keep trying to spin all of this, it's not working.
00:50:37.000Interesting story here out of Daily Kos, and it's been admitted to, that ESPN fakes stadium cheers for Republicans and pro-war Democrats, but puts fake boos over if it's anti-war.
00:50:52.000And by the way, the Republicans get booed, instead of Democrats, and they will just fade down the audio and fade up fake boos, I mean fake cheers.
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00:51:26.000Terror Storm chronicles the lies that took us to war in Iran, a White House program to disseminate fake news, NSA spying, secret police forgery, the latest 9-11 information, and much, much more.
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00:55:05.000But thanks to the War on Terror, practically the booming invasion, occupation, and torture of Afghanistan and Iraq, numerous new anti-American terrorists have been created since that historic day.
00:55:35.000Oh my gosh, Al Qaeda's back, we had to go fight in Iraq, and yeah, maybe it has created more terrorists, so now the threat is real, you better give up all your freedoms.
00:55:46.000You see, people can't imagine that neocons would fall on their swords.
00:56:05.000They want you to think they screwed up.
00:56:07.000They want you to think that it's civil war and that they dropped the ball on their own Pentagon documents that they don't publicize.
00:56:14.000State that they wanted to break the country up in three parts.
00:56:19.000State that they wanted endless civil war as a pretext to keep troops there longer and have bigger defense budgets for private defense contractors.
00:56:41.000And I'm not talking about did they blow the levees, I don't know.
00:56:44.000We know they jammed police communications, cut down communications towers, wouldn't let the Red Cross come in, wouldn't let the firefighters come in, the police, wouldn't let the Coast Guard in.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:17.000Coming up in 30 minutes, I'm going to air the rest of the interview I did two nights ago being aired here for the first time.
00:59:25.000With former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, where he questioned the official 9-11 story, brought up Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, and other government-staged events, and said he wouldn't put it past them.
00:59:37.000You heard the quote earlier, that's an incredible quote.
00:59:40.000I'm going to re-air, in fact, parts of that, and then air the part we haven't aired yet, coming up.
00:59:45.000I'm extremely honored to always be joined by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
00:59:48.000He was the head economist in number two at the Department of Treasury, under Ronald Reagan, credited as being one of the fathers, if not the father, of Reaganomics.
00:59:57.000And he writes great reports multiple times weekly, and we like to carry those at InfoWars.com.
01:00:06.000You can also read them at LewRockwell.com.
01:01:20.000And apparently they've got some kind of war plans with regard to Iran.
01:01:28.000So, these I think are enough issues for 30 minutes.
01:01:38.000These are a few of our favorite things.
01:01:41.000Now, actually, we hate it, folks, but we have to discuss it.
01:01:45.000Let's get into the weird smoke and mirrors.
01:01:49.000I've actually read the quote changes to the bill Bush introduced that does codify secret arrest of citizens, total end of the Fourth Amendment, total spying,
01:01:58.000Really, a lot of people are saying that he's trying to get passed through Congress so he doesn't get in trouble for the crimes he's committed, ordering torture and secret arrest and illegal spying, but I don't know if they can pass a law and then have it be retroactive, and then they spin it like it's some type of defeat for Bush with McCain, who's staging this dog and pony show because the JAG officers and lawyers have looked at it and say it actually gives Bush more than what he asked for.
01:02:29.000Well, I haven't paid much attention to the final version, Alex, but I do agree that what's motivating Bush to push so hard for this is not anything to do with terrorism.
01:02:46.000It has to do with the very bad advice he was given by his Attorney General, Portia Gonzalez.
01:02:54.000And that has put Bush into the war criminal category and the reason they want to pass this new bill is to give retroactive protection to Bush.
01:03:11.000Now, under the Constitution, retroactive law hasn't any force, but you never know what Supreme Court rules these days, particularly as it gets loaded up with Bush people.
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01:08:12.000If you just joined us stations out there, we were talking about torture, spying.
01:08:16.000They're trying to codify it in one piece of legislation.
01:08:21.000I mean, even during the Civil War, they didn't put stuff this bold during Reconstruction into law.
01:08:28.000Secret arrests, secret trials, which aren't even trials.
01:08:32.000And I brought up the point of Dr. Roberts that they're doing this predominantly because Bush knows that he could get impeached, he could get indicted.
01:08:40.000What he's done is illegal from the insane advice of John Yoo and Alberto Gonzalez.
01:08:46.000But to hear the talk show host on radio, so-called conservatives, they're out there defending this all over the country, saying the end of the Fourth Amendment, the end of the Seventh, the end of the Ninth for that matter, the First Amendment, because you can't tell anybody if your family member's been arrested under the Patriot Act.
01:09:05.000Dr. Roberts, give us your take on that, sir.
01:09:54.000You know, if, for example, terrorists were attacking every day, blowing up buildings every day, killing hundreds of people every day, and that sort of thing, then you might say, oh my goodness, security comes first.
01:11:04.000We have a government with total arbitrary police powers.
01:11:08.000They can arrest anybody they want at any time and do anything they want to them and not tell their families or have the person any access to a court or a judge or a lawyer.
01:11:22.000So it's really a legal system that's probably as bad as any has ever existed anywhere on earth at any time.
01:11:32.000Well, Dr. Roberts, isn't it true that even in Stalin's Russia or Hitler's Germany...
01:11:36.000Or China today, they've got all these rights on paper, they just sneak around and do the oppression quietly.
01:11:42.000This is one of the first times, maybe except for under the Roman system, where they openly are trying to place it into the canons of law that they can do things like this.
01:11:53.000I mean, have you ever seen cases of where governments put stuff like this into law?
01:12:05.000And Americans are completely stupid to sit there and take this.
01:12:12.000And it will make the United States the most dangerous place to live on Earth.
01:12:19.000Because the power of the government over people is total.
01:12:25.000Well I don't think listeners, even some of our listeners, realize that Patriot Act 1 and the expansion of last year, Patriot Act 1.5, so they can get everything they wanted in 2, this new legislation will do that.
01:12:37.000This is basically Patriot Act 2 is what we're seeing right now.
01:12:39.000I should write a story on that, or you should, but this is full expansion.
01:12:44.000People don't realize that they're handing out federally written manuals that say land rights activists, pro-gun groups, people that make frequent references to the U.S.
01:12:52.000Constitution, anti-war groups, they've arrested homeless people sleeping on park benches, topless bar owners, they're going after toy store owners and they call it infrastructure protection.
01:13:05.000They had an arrest warrant out for Greg Palast and were charging him with terrorism for videotaping a FEMA camp in Louisiana.
01:13:12.000I don't know if you saw that last week.
01:13:16.000But the point is, their definition of terrorism in Section 802 of the Patriot Act is any action that endangers human life that's a violation of any federal or state law.
01:13:25.000And now, by just fiat, Homeland Security says it's more than that.
01:13:32.000Well, historically, They always interpret any law expansively.
01:13:39.000Just like the old RICO law, the racketeering that was only supposed to be against gangsters and ends up in divorces.
01:13:48.000It's like the drug confiscation law where you can only take the property of the drug dealer.
01:13:58.000Now they can take anybody's property under that law.
01:14:03.000To say that they're doing this for terrorism, what it means is they can do it for anybody, under any... I mean, a traffic ticket, for that matter.
01:14:38.000And as you've said, it's the first time, I think, in recorded history where police state measures are legislated as the legal basis of the legal system.
01:14:49.000So there's no more constitutional rights, there's no more civil rights, there's no more civil liberties.
01:14:55.000Because we're all now totally subject to the discretion of any police officer.
01:15:05.000I mean, this isn't a drill, this isn't a game.
01:15:08.000Meanwhile, more and more Americans are waking up to the fact that the War on Terror is a fraud, because regardless of what you think about 9-11 and what really happened, the borders are more open now than they were before, and Bush is proposing blanket amnesty, where they're trying to bring us into this new North American Union trade bloc, and they try to lie about that.
01:15:26.000Now the secret meetings have come out.
01:15:29.000See, none of this is important if you don't have any civil liberties.
01:15:56.000If there's no habeas corpus, if there's secret arrest, secret trial by tribunal, secret execution, there is, I mean, this isn't just getting away from our founding documents.
01:16:06.000And I want to be clear, you're not talking about the worst in U.S. history.
01:16:11.000You're saying in modern world history, no one's ever codified it in law.
01:16:20.000Why do you think they're so arrogant about it?
01:16:22.000Well, I think because they've got people frightened because of 9-11 and, you know, Two-thirds of the people believe their story and most people are very trusting of the government and don't believe the government does bad things.
01:16:44.000They think that they have anything to fear because they're not doing bad things.
01:17:26.000History, if it shows us one thing, shows that government is the most dangerous thing.
01:17:30.000If you let it abuse you, it will abuse you to the maximum point that you allow it.
01:17:36.000I mean, what is it like to talk to these sheep who are so mindless and naive?
01:17:42.000Well, I don't know, but I think what we have to worry about, certainly you even more than me, is what's going to stop them from picking you up.
01:17:54.000So the point is, you know, we've reached the point where I think any kind of dissent, if it shows any sign of being effective, it's just an excuse for you to disappear.
01:18:37.000They'll even leak how we were tortured to death to try to chill you.
01:18:41.000But if you let them chill you, they're going to win.
01:18:43.000Everybody should be afraid of not taking action.
01:18:47.000Dr. Paul Greg Roberts, final segment with you on the other side.
01:18:49.000I want to talk about their move to attack Iran.
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01:24:30.000Well, I think the problem The problem for the neoconservatives is that their program of establishing American hegemony in the Middle East has been defeated in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
01:25:10.000The only way they can do it now, they think, I'm not saying it would succeed, but this is what's in the neoconservatives' mind, is to use tactical nukes.
01:25:22.000They have permission under the new war doctrine now to use theater nuclear weapons on non-nuclear countries In preemptive attack.
01:25:30.000And that's permission from themselves, more of this Fuhrer precept.
01:25:33.000Well, it's from the Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations, Joint Publication 312.
01:25:42.000Bound coordination is 15th of March, 2005.
01:25:56.000What they're going to do They think, they think, if they use tactical nukes, that it will intimidate Iran, and there will be no retaliation, they won't attack our ships or our troops in Iraq, or send this boulder into action, and it will intimidate Muslims throughout the Middle East, and make them see that if they don't lay down and accept U.S.
01:26:24.000So the notion of the neocons is, That if we nuke Iran, it sends a message that they have no recourse but to accept our hegemony and do as we want or they face potential genocide.
01:27:02.000He's trying to fully, fully escalate because their other plans are failing.
01:27:06.000The problem is that all the real strategists in government, in their own reports say, if they nuke, the gas prices will more than double, the economy will fold, the Arabs will go absolutely ape globally, and it's going to be cities burning everywhere.
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01:32:14.000Dr. Paul Craig Roberts has stayed over because I had one more question for him about the last subject.
01:32:18.000The neocons are saying they plan to hit Iran.
01:32:21.000Top generals are saying that they're going into more than just planning phases, but actually planning operations with an eye to strike Iran.
01:32:32.000The neocon media and the liberal media is in overdrive, legitimizing it, saying Iran needs to be hit, hyping it, claiming they're behind Bin Laden just like they claimed Iraq was.
01:32:43.000How do you see this unfolding, Dr. Roberts, and how do we stop it, or are these madmen just committed to do this come hell or high water?
01:32:52.000Well, I think they're committed to do it.
01:32:55.000According to Professor Hirsch of the University of California, They've overcome the American military's opposition.
01:33:06.000I don't think they can overcome the Russian or the Chinese opposition.
01:33:13.000But I suspect they will do it anyhow and not care if they've further alienated those two countries.
01:33:23.000And I'm not sure whether the leaders in Europe are independent enough of the United States to oppose them.
01:34:03.000Well, I've gotten good intel from a lot of different sources and on the ground up in Ottawa when they had the big Bilderberg conference that there are large sections of the elite who do think the neocons are dangerous and out of control and need to stop what they're doing.
01:34:18.000And I've gotten confirmed reports they have screaming matches now for the first time at these elite high-level meetings.
01:34:25.000So, is that a good sign that they're at least screaming at each other?
01:34:28.000Well, that's a good sign, but who is in power?
01:34:56.000That would cause public attention to focus on it.
01:35:01.000But these generals, you see, it's so valuable to leave on good terms so you can pick up the consultancies, get rich after you retire.
01:35:11.000I just don't know how many, what the likelihood that there are any non-political generals left who would do something like that.
01:35:20.000But if the Joint Chiefs were to resign in protest, that would certainly throw a Absolutely.
01:35:28.000Well, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, at the same time I listen and talk radio, you have mindless Americans who literally can't even pronounce Iran or Iraq properly.
01:35:37.000They can't find it on a map, but they almost get sexual pleasure in their voice on air when they talk about killing all Arabs, nuking them all, how much fun it's going to be to kill them all.
01:35:49.000I guess we really have turned into worse than the Nazis in certain respects.
01:36:00.000In fact, I don't believe it's possible for anybody to be a supporter of Bush who doesn't have a brown shirt mentality.
01:36:09.000Unless you're just completely in the dark and have the foggiest idea of what's going on and why, and you think that he's saving you from homosexuals and abortionists.
01:36:18.000There's some of those people, but anybody.
01:36:22.000Any awareness of what's going on, who supports this administration, has to have a brown shirt.
01:36:37.000Okay, here is the Ventura interview in its entirety.
01:36:41.000We'll break, come back in the next segment, play the rest of it, go into the next hour, five minutes, finishing it up, and then we're going to have an expert on electronic voting fraud, the author of Hacked, High Tech Election Theft in America, coming up later in the next hour.
01:37:06.000Mr. Prince Harry, I'm just going to tell you right off the bat, I became a big supporter of you and I saw the clip online in the summer of 2003 when you were on Jay Leno.
01:37:15.000It was heartfelt, it was energy, it was pure truth.
01:37:17.000I saw you tell people thanks for standing up for the truth, thanks for standing up for what's right.
01:37:21.000You were on Jay Leno, you talked about Gulf of Tonkin, since then it's been declassified, it was all stage.
01:37:24.000You obviously knew you were inside all of that.
01:37:28.000I would just like to get Your view, your take, on 9-11, Gulf of Tonkin, JFK, all of it?
01:37:34.000Well, I think the most interesting thing to talk about today is if people aren't aware that due to the Freedom of Information Act, in the early 60s, the Pentagon had an operation called Operation Northwoods, and it never came to reality, but it was on the table that
01:37:56.000Our military would attack certain cities within the United States and make it look like Cuba did it to justify an invasion of Cuba.
01:38:06.000It never happened, but just the simple fact that they contemplated it and it was actually on the table in the Pentagon, I find that just very disturbing.
01:38:16.000That they would even consider using our military to try to just To justify an invasion of another country.
01:38:23.000They did speak on Jay Leno according to my recollection about how Gulf of Tonkin was staged, how you were lied to, we were lied to, you lost a lot of friends.
01:38:32.000What was it like to learn that they had staged an event that didn't really happen to bring us into full-scale war in 64?
01:38:40.000What was it like when you realized that and you learned that?
01:38:42.000Well, it was very disappointing to believe in your country that they would lie to you to get into a war.
01:38:48.000That they would perpetrate a lie and that the media would go along with it.
01:39:00.000Government very much operates that way.
01:39:03.000I really learned about it when McNamara did his tour with film when he came to Harvard when I was teaching there.
01:39:10.000And they pretty much had to lock me up in a room so that I wouldn't confront him.
01:39:14.000What would you say to him if you were in a room with him?
01:39:17.000I would ask him why we were lied to and what the purpose was for it.
01:39:22.000The one thing I do question on 9-11 is the fact that if anyone's familiar with the Payne Stewart, the golfer, when he died, He was flying in a private plane, and they lost contact with that private plane out of Florida, and within 30 minutes they had a fighter jet up on the wing.
01:39:41.000And that fighter stayed with it all the way till it crashed in Nebraska, making sure that it didn't harm anyone.
01:39:47.000And the thing I questioned on 9-11 was simply the fact, where were our planes?
01:39:52.000When all of this was going on, and planes were being hijacked an hour apart, and there were four of them to cover about a six hour space, At no time, to my knowledge, did we have any fighter planes up in the air.
01:40:10.000In light of the fact that there was a cover-up that got us into the Vietnam War, and there was, in my opinion, a cover-up of John Kennedy's assassination, I would just say that I don't believe it's beyond reason to not at least consider that the government certainly would do things like that.
01:40:26.000You're here, you know about Tom, do you know about Northwoods?
01:40:31.000I know about those things from reading on Kennedy.
01:40:48.000But as far as me having any knowledge that we relied to, I don't.
01:40:53.000As far as JFK goes, well I've been studying that for 25 years, or 20 years I guess, or more now, and I don't believe for one minute the Warren Commission.
01:41:04.000I think that it's fraudulent in the fact that if you break it down to simplistic form, if Lee Harvey Oswald is who they told us he was, this little disgruntled Marine who became a Communist and decided to kill the President, Then why would all the information have to be locked up in national security and kept secret for 20 years?
01:41:35.000As far as the shots, he did three of them and the magic bullet in the head shot.
01:41:39.000I've been to Dealey Plaza and I don't think he could make the shots.
01:41:44.000In my opinion, because it was a difficult shot with a target going away from you and dropping, and not only that, he had to shoot through a tree.
01:41:52.000If you go up to the nest, you look and see this massive tree, and it's the same size today as it was back in 1963.
01:42:02.000I don't buy what their results, I don't buy that they That they deemed Oswald the killer and one of the main reasons is because in our country you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
01:42:16.000Lee Harvey Oswald has never been offered a trial in a court of law to determine whether he was guilty or innocent or not.
01:43:24.000It was also, I found very interesting, that Richard Nixon had the 82nd Airborne in there when the hurricane hit back in the 70s within 24 hours.
01:43:33.000And yet this president didn't do a thing for eight days, you know, before he reacted and sent troops in there.
01:43:41.000For people that say that, well, you can't blame President Bush, yes, I fully blame him for the hurricane.
01:43:49.000Because it covered more than one state.
01:43:52.000Anytime any tragedy like that encompasses more than one state, it immediately falls to federal jurisdiction.
01:43:59.000The other reason I blame George Bush for the hurricane and what happened afterwards Is because the only people in our country capable logistically of handling a tragedy like that is the US military.
01:44:13.000They're the only ones that logistically have the equipment to do it.
01:44:17.000It's just the fact that the military is the only one capable of handling that type of disaster and so they should have been called in immediately and they weren't.
01:44:30.000So that tells me that the country can't protect you.
01:44:40.000Well, I don't know if it's a police state or not, the whole war on terrorism, but I do know that any time the government tells you they're going to protect you, be prepared because you're going to lose your freedom and your rights.
01:44:54.000And I personally, my personal viewpoint is I'd rather deal with the terrorists than I would the loss of my freedom.
01:45:00.000And I think that ultimately, I hate to say this, we're winning on the battlefield, but I think the terrorists are winning the war because they're changing America.
01:45:09.000These were also the same people that told us there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
01:45:15.000So take it with a grain of salt, they were wrong once, they could be wrong again.
01:45:18.000You think they're wrong and they're lying premeditatedly?
01:46:03.000They're making our elections fall victim to a system of bribery, which they've created, which in the private sector is illegal and you'll go to jail.
01:46:14.000But in the public sector, it's the status quo.
01:46:16.000It's what we have for a political system.
01:47:05.000Yeah, I think if we had a state investigation with a good grand jury and the real evidence brought forth, I think an investigation would make a difference.
01:47:13.000We were given a whitewash, so it must make a difference.
01:47:15.000They must be afraid of a real investigation.
01:47:16.000Well, and have we ever gotten a real investigation of anything?
01:47:23.000No, but I don't want to have an attitude of just quitting and giving in.
01:47:27.000I'm not saying that's what you're saying, but it is the point.
01:47:29.000Sure, stuff's bad, but if people weren't fighting tyranny and weren't involved, and you weren't down here in Texas right now supporting Kinky Friedman, and we still have that fighting attitude, wouldn't we be in a worse position?
01:48:53.000I mean, really, we see this burgeoning grassroots populism, and I think you were there at the start of that.
01:48:58.000Well, people fail to realize, though, that there was an independent governor before me that served with me, just didn't happen to get all the publicity I got.
01:49:09.000Angus preceded me by four years up in Maine and served actually for eight years, so I may be the catalyst to a certain extent because of who I am, but I'm certainly not the first.
01:49:39.000And then Ventura comes out and we get some freeform stuff out in the back parking lot before he left.
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01:52:51.000Yeah, just commenting on what Ventura had to just commenting on what Ventura had to say, and we've got more we're going to play here in a minute.
01:53:14.000He just, out of the blue, just says, look, I've given up, and I've done my work, and I've moved to Mexico, and he said some other stuff off camera that I'm not going to repeat.
01:53:25.000But, basically, like he said on Jay Leno, he said, Golf of Tonkin, 9-11, we're being lied to.
01:53:30.000He says, they know where I live, they can come get me if they want.
01:53:33.000I guess in the last three years, he's just decided, hey, You know, I'm giving up.
01:53:39.000But at the same time, he's not giving up.
01:53:40.000He's trying to help an independent here locally.
01:53:43.000Whether you love or hate Kinky Friedman, it means better than the other candidates.
01:53:47.000But this was an interesting interview, and we've got some more, but we'll air later in the week, because we sat down with him for about 25, 26 minutes in that interview, and you just heard about, I don't know, about 16 minutes of it.
01:54:01.000Next, we cut to cameras outside the room, and it's Kinky Friedman and his manager, Talking about us.
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02:01:34.000Alright folks, well we're going to break and in the next few days I'll air some more of the interview inside and some more of the stuff that happened at the end, but I think it's a total of 22 minute clip.
02:01:46.000Going up on the web in the next hour, I'm told.
02:01:49.000In fact, it's already encoded and uploaded to Google and YouTube.
02:01:54.000And it's going to be added to Paul Watson's article he's writing right now.
02:01:57.000So in the next few hours, the big report with Ventura.
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02:09:04.000Tell us about yourself, because I think it's not just a testament to exposing election fraud, but to how an average person, I mean, you're an exceptional person, but there's all these exceptional people out there who think they're average, taking action on what you've been able to do, not just locally now, but all over the country, along with other great folks like Bev Harris.
02:09:22.000Well, it started, as many people know that have heard me speak around the Austin area, with listening to your show in August of 2003, and I came in mid-interview, as you were talking to Bev Harris, And as a Toastmaster always looking for a new speech topic, I was so startled at the information that she was relaying to you about these paperless electronic voting machines that had modems that had secret software that you could flip an election in a matter of minutes by hacking in a secret backdoor.
02:09:52.000And to be honest, I think I had the reaction that a lot of people have when they first hear the information at first.
02:09:57.000I just couldn't make myself believe it.
02:10:00.000But I pulled over and I was listening in my car and I pulled over and I started taking notes and I thought, wow, if this is true, this is going to make one heck of a speech for the Toastmasters.
02:10:12.000And one speech at Toastmasters has developed into a three-year, it's just a journey with no end as far as I'm concerned and has led to this book now.
02:10:21.000Well, I'm going to be honest with folks.
02:10:22.000We're carrying the book, but I've only read about 70% of it.
02:10:25.000I've been so covered up, being sick last week with stuff piling up, I haven't had a chance to read the whole thing.
02:10:30.000I read about eight of the different chapters.
02:11:00.000Well, we have three chapters from Bev Harris and actually these come straight from her book, Black Box Voting, Ballot Tampering in the 21st Century.
02:11:07.000And Bev is, as I just mentioned, and as many people know, sort of at the forefront of this movement because she discovered the Debold software on the internet and found that it could easily be hacked and has now Demonstrated that with her hacking team on two different types of de-built equipment.
02:11:23.000Yeah, they actually left their server open and they had some backdoor stuff open on the web she was able to get to.
02:11:28.000Yeah, when she reviewed that, it took her about three days to download it, but it was reviewed and considered to be a handbook on how to tamper with elections using that software.
02:11:37.000I mean, we're catching them red-handed on their own website.
02:11:41.000In fact, that was right after the 2002 election when Georgia, who had just purchased 100% DEBOLT machines, there were 22,000 of them, had a couple of severe upsets for the governor candidate and the senator candidate, who by popular, or by polls that are usually reliable, were supposed to be swept away by the Democratic candidates and the Republicans won.
02:12:04.000And one of these 40,000 files that Bet Harris found was called Rob Georgia.
02:12:12.000We've now had engineers at these companies go public.
02:12:15.000We've had people go public and testify at state legislatures about they were hired to engage in fraud.
02:12:20.000I mean, really, it's like 9-11 and all these other subjects.
02:12:23.000It's just the general public cannot believe it's actually happening.
02:12:27.000Yeah, it's shocking and I know that I mean, here we are, Alex, living in a country that sends election monitors out to third world countries to make sure that their elections are handled properly, and yet we here at home are living in an illusion of what is referred to as democracy.
02:12:44.000I understand we're really in a constitutional republic here, but most people refer to it as a democracy.
02:12:51.000Our elections have really been privatized by corporations and, you know, multinational corporations and the ownership ties to these companies In fact, I always call things like this an orgy of evidence.
02:13:03.000contractors and even foreign governments and all that has been heavily researched by Bev Harrison so that's why she is predominant in our book.
02:13:10.000In fact, I always call things like this an orgy of evidence.
02:13:14.000I stole that from the film Minority Report when the cop bust in there's like a whole bed just covered with proof, you know, piles of photos and documents.
02:13:22.000But it really is an orgy of evidence and that's almost part of the problem is that there's so much evidence.
02:13:31.000And that's why we took Bev's chapter, our chapter two, which Bev Harris wrote, contributed, It's an example, it has a hundred examples of screw-ups with these voting machines that go back over the last several elections and she could have gone, the whole book could have been that way.
02:13:45.000But see, you guys are nice, you're being real careful, you're calling them screw-ups.
02:13:48.000I mean, now the mainstream media is saying, you thought 2000 was bad?
02:13:51.0002006 is going to be record problems with the new machines.
02:13:55.000People you thought would win really won't.
02:13:57.000I mean, they're already getting us ready, quote, for nationwide screw-ups that are really smoke screens for them scanning.
02:14:04.000Well, the default people themselves finally had to admit that one of the ways that you can hack into their touchscreen machine, the TSX machine, outfitted with printers, which the black box voting hacking team of Harry Hurstie and Herbert Thompson from Florida went to.
02:14:25.000They were invited in by Bruce Funk, a very courageous election official, in March of this year.
02:14:32.000And Kathleen Wynne and Bev Harris went there and they videotaped this and what they found, they found so many architectural designs for hacking that there's just no way anymore to just call it a glitch or a possible cost.
02:14:45.000Yeah, it's like somebody building a 10 story office building and saying that all the exit doors were accidents.
02:14:57.000But the good news is that you guys have gone from just three or four years ago when Bev Harris was a voice in the wilderness, I was a voice in the wilderness, a few others, Victoria Collier and a few others, and, of course, the work of her father and uncle who are dead now, that back then it was a conspiracy.
02:15:26.000It is an arrogance and I think what we refer to or who we refer to as our elected officials are really our selected officials and probably have been for quite some time now and it's It is kind of a frustrating catch-22.
02:15:39.000How do you vote out people when you're using fraudulent equipment?
02:15:42.000And I'm not sure I really have the answer to that, to be honest with you.
02:16:31.000We are trying to educate some people who are running for office here locally in our Vote Rescue Group, which was founded by Karen Rennick, and we're trying to tackle this here with our Secretary of State, Roger Williams.
02:16:44.000With some actions that I'd like to get into in a few minutes.
02:16:47.000But we've had some people, some candidates come to our meeting and give us their view on election fraud problems.
02:16:54.000And what we find is that, and this is very common even among the election reform movement, there are a lot of people out there who think that the solution to this problem is actually adding paper trails to electronic voting machines.
02:17:04.000And I just want to state right now that the view of... That just prints up a copy of the fraud.
02:17:11.000And there are numerous ways to hack in anyway, even if there is a so-called paper trail.
02:17:16.000And the point being, too, is that even if the paper was accurate, which nobody can prove that it is, then you're relying on audits and recounts.
02:17:24.000And if you actually take the time, if anyone researches what it takes to get an audit or recount done, If there's a recount that's going to be done in a case that's really important, such as Ohio in 2004, they simply rig the recount.
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02:22:01.000That says that they can secretly arrest American citizens and not give you trials and secretly hold you.
02:22:06.000And And that everything is terrorism, every misdemeanor is terrorism.
02:22:12.000They're openly saying they may preemptively nuke Iran.
02:22:16.000They're openly saying we're going into a North American Union and have signed the documents and it's happening.
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02:22:31.000It's just insane crime after insane crime against this country.
02:22:38.000They're going wild, and it's because they know that they've got electronic fraud-based machines in nationwide.
02:22:45.000Not just the 35% of the country that has the new touchscreens and hardener civics and Bible, but the older ones where you feed the ballots in and it's a Scantron, because that's all on a memory tape.
02:23:14.000Well, another great contribution to our book is by Kathleen Wynne, who has been working with Bev Harris and a co-investigator and researcher.
02:23:23.000And she does a great chapter in our book about what one citizen can do and how she started out, you know, kind of like me, just being interested in the topic and then she went on to work with Black Box Voting and Bev Harris And she has this great story that starts out with a dumpster dive, dumpster diving for Diebold, or against Diebold, and finding some very incriminating documents that are still posted on the Black Box Voting website right now.
02:23:46.000Kathleen has just moved to Austin, so we're really looking forward to having her contribute her great energy to Vote Rescue.
02:23:52.000And we've got great contributions from Bob Fetrakis, who's running for Governor of Ohio right now.
02:23:57.000He was an election protection monitor in Ohio.
02:25:03.000I co-wrote a chapter with her about why the current attempts at legislation to amend the Help America Vote Act are not going to work to solve this problem because the one thing they all have in common is adding printers.
02:25:15.000And again, even people in this election reform campaign... The computer changes the vote, prints it into a box you don't even see.
02:25:41.000Optical scan counters, as you were just mentioning Alex, that are used to count paper ballots, they have the same fraudulent software in them that's been proven with the D-Bolt at least.
02:25:50.000Because that was another case where... This didn't start 5 years ago, this started like 20.
02:25:56.000So these optical scan counters, which some people think, well at least if you have the paper ballots, once again they say, at least if we have them for a recount.
02:26:03.000We already know that's not going to work.
02:26:05.000In the case where audits are... You've got the people that stole the election who are going to refeed them through machines again and give you the same answer.
02:26:43.000In several cases now, we had a conservative Republican candidate for Texas Supreme Court Justice, Steve Smith, who lost his primary election in Texas in March.
02:26:54.000In part because the Hart InterCivic machines, the same machines we use here in Travis County, Austin, recorded in Tarrant County 100,000 extra votes than there were voters.
02:27:03.000So they backed those out and said this did not affect the election results.
02:27:27.000And then if you put the money up, it's the very same county card that stole the election, laughing at you with a couple guys in black uniforms.
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02:31:04.000Haven't had a lot of time for calls today, but tomorrow we can also talk about Ventura going public on 9-11, questioning the official story.
02:31:09.000have had a lot of time for calls today but tomorrow we can also talk about ventura going public on 9-11 questioning official story that's a big deal and a lot more uh But before we go back to Vicki Karp, New Millennium Concepts.
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02:32:48.000If your mother or your father or your neighbor or your son or daughter are drinking tap water, make them promise you to use it and to stop drinking that poison water.
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02:33:40.000Vicky, continuing, and again, thank you so much for being here.
02:33:43.000You're talking about hack, high-tech election theft in America.
02:33:46.00011 experts expose the truth, edited by Abby Waldman-Delosier and Vicky Karp.
02:33:51.000That's you, and of course you contributed articles to it as well, and add to some of the other reports.
02:33:57.000Tell us what the 11 different experts cover in the book and why folks should get it.
02:34:02.000We try to cover the whole thing, Alex, for the people out there who either barely know there's a problem or don't think there's a problem at all with our voting system.
02:34:09.000So we have everything from sort of a broad overview of why it's ridiculous to trust our votes to electronic machines by Lynn Landis, who was writing about this topic even before Bev Harris was and actually helped inspire Bev Harris to work on it.
02:34:23.000We've got Bev's chapters, one which detail hundreds of examples of screw-ups with the machines, and then another chapter, one of her other chapters that we took from Black Box Voting with her permission, was describing the amazing conflicts of interest that we have with these voting machine vendors in terms of the ownership ties, such as Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.
02:34:45.000Well, Senator Chuck Hagel was elected in his state of Nebraska after, I don't know, 24 years of no Republicans being selected or being voted in.
02:34:57.000And he had, at the time of his first Senate race, a $5 million ownership interest in ES&S electronic systems and software.
02:35:06.000Which he did not disclose after he won his race by some overwhelming margin of victory counter to usually reliable polls.
02:35:14.000And he had this amazing sweep, I think, across the country.
02:35:17.000This was like the biggest upset of the whole country.
02:35:21.000And he did the same thing again when he was reelected, yet he never disclosed that he had ownership ties to election systems and software, which counted 80% of the votes in his race.
02:35:31.000And then we, of course, have the example of Michael McCaul with the owner of Clear Channel, the chairman, Lowry Mays.
02:35:39.000Lowry Mays is also his biggest political contributor in what, 80% of the ballots cast in the three-county district?
02:35:46.000Williamson, Travis, and Hayes were cast on hardener civic machines.
02:35:51.000Right, you've got that connection with HART.
02:35:53.000And then, of course, you have a, some people know this, but The former CEO of the Diebold Company, Wally O'Dell, was a Bush pioneer, which is someone who was committed to raising $100,000 for the re-election campaign in 2004 for Bush.
02:36:07.000And he wrote a memo saying, I guarantee you, I will deliver you Ohio.
02:36:11.000In a campaign contribution letter he put out in 2003, he committed to Delivering the votes for the electoral votes for the state of Ohio to the president, which certainly did happen.
02:36:21.000And that's where many of us believe the election was stolen in 2004.
02:36:25.000Most of us that have been studying this for a while, Alex, I'm sure I know you're probably right in there with us.
02:36:31.000I totally believe that the last two presidential elections were stolen from Bush.
02:37:07.000He said he was going to have, and I think maybe he did have, 40,000 attorneys on the ground all over the country to make sure that every vote that was cast was counted, and then he just throws in the towel the next morning.
02:37:19.000Yeah, and there is so much evidence about what happened in Ohio, and that's why I think Bob Petrakis and Harvey Wasserman have done such a great job Recounting that in books and articles that they've written about what really happened in Ohio.
02:37:57.000We have another chapter by a computer programmer named Jeremiah Aiken, who we're lucky enough to have also as a new resident of Austin.
02:38:05.000He is formerly from Riverside, California, where they were implementing the use of Sequoia machines, which is another one of the top four electronic voting machine vendors.
02:38:16.000And his dad got an invitation to come down and have a look at them testing out these Sequoia machines.
02:38:21.000And his dad gave him his invitation because he's a high-tech guy.
02:38:26.000And watched as the election official in Riverside, California tried to sort of gloss over a lot of the problems with the software and actually asked people in the room to sign and affirm that they had seen this software being tested when in fact it had been tested out of their sight and he refused to sign that paper.
02:38:48.000And then later on, just as Bev Harris found the DeBuild software on the internet, he found Sequoia software on the internet, on their website, and he has torn it apart.
02:38:58.000For those who don't know, a lot of internal stuff is saved on servers at companies.
02:39:02.000It's the same servers they're using for the internet, and they will save them for intercompany use with subdomains that are supposedly private, but these fools don't know it's open to the web.
02:39:12.000So now we have two of the top four electronic voting machine vendors whose software has been reviewed by experts.
02:39:19.000In both cases, it's clearly designed for fraud, and yet the other two, Heart InterCivic and ES&S, they act all offended that we don't take it on faith that their software is clean.
02:39:56.000And it will work if people will simply implement it and do it.
02:40:03.000What you have to do is, you have to have a paper, a petition, done properly, say in a place like Austin, Texas, where you get hundreds of thousands, or a hundred thousand, or whatever it takes, signatures saying, we don't trust the electronic voting machines, because of all these past problems we've witnessed, and you know, kind of have a writ listing it, and so we want
02:40:29.000To have it put on the ballot that, with this petition, that it be funded to have an election with paper ballots to see if we want to remove, say in Travis County or Austin, Texas, the touchscreen, electronic, non-verifiable, Scantron, it doesn't matter, systems.
02:40:52.000Of course, have it all vetted and written out properly.
02:40:56.000And then show how they're afraid of that and don't want to do that.
02:40:59.000Because the only way you're going to be able to do it is, well, there's several ways.
02:41:02.000We can totally discredit their systems, sue them, expose them, make them, remove them, but they're not doing that.
02:41:34.000And we have started a petition at Vote Rescue, which we're starting to bring to all the events and things that we're doing to get signatures that way.
02:41:41.000Because we think that's a great idea too.
02:41:43.000We're still not certain if we would have luck Voting in paper ballot systems and getting ready machines, if the vote itself has to take place with the machines, it's again a catch-22 situation.
02:41:56.000Now, one of your solutions has been to go out and show numbers.
02:41:59.000Go out and get exit polls and then show how it doesn't match those precincts, right?
02:42:03.000Well, we haven't really done official exit polls.
02:42:05.000What we've been doing at Vote Rescue here locally is what we call parallel elections with paper ballots, and we will be doing that again in November.
02:42:13.000I really see that as an exit poll, just documenting it.
02:42:28.000We think that that's just a good watchdog activity.
02:42:32.000And we're encouraging... Here's the fundamental bottom line on it.
02:42:36.000Only citizens Are going to have to get involved in this, no matter how much they'd rather, you know, kick back on the couch and watch American Idol or football.
02:42:46.000For those people that haven't yet gotten involved in anything, they're waiting for somebody else to do it.
02:42:50.000I know you've talked about this a lot, but really it's going to come from the citizens.
02:42:54.000The only reason that there's the familiarity with this issue that might exist today, to whatever degree, it's because of citizens who have been trying to take action.
02:43:02.000And on the Black Box Voting website, there's this wonderful item called the Citizens Toolkit.
02:44:10.000It's a piece of the puzzle that had to be in place in order for a lot of other criminal activities by our government to be able to take place.
02:44:17.000And they can just, as you said, just rampantly and arrogantly carry out illegal war, the Patriot Act, the Trans-Texas Corridor.
02:44:28.000Vaccines, you know, testing, gun control, psychological testing of children and forced drugs.
02:44:35.000I mean, so many things, everything that you report on your show, it's all tied together and there's no way any of it could happen without vote fraud.
02:44:43.000So you are striking at the root, Vicky, and I hope people will get hacked.
02:44:48.000We don't have it up on InfoWars.com or on the toll-free number yet, but folks, you really should go up there tonight or tomorrow and get a copy of Hacked.
02:45:46.000We've gone from three or four years ago, the average American knowing nothing about election fraud, laughing to ensure they're stealing elections, to the majority of Americans in polls believing there's a problem, believing there's election fraud going on, because we see the exit polls where somebody is losing, but they're an establishment candidate, so they really win.
02:46:03.000Or we see polls where they're going to lose by 15 points, but then they win by 10 points or 12 points.
02:46:09.000Well, what do you see happening in this collision now?
02:46:11.000Because on, not just voting, but on so many issues there is an awakening so the government's racing with its corporate interest to try to oppress us so that can't happen.
02:46:22.000In fact, that leads me into something I wanted to tell the listeners and tell you, if you didn't know this yet.
02:46:28.000The Secretary of State in each state is the person ultimately responsible for certifying voting systems.
02:46:34.000So here we have Roger Williams in Texas And we have these certification hearings of a panel of so-called experts who actually hear the information.
02:46:45.000It's supposed to be a hearing on which voting systems they're going to recommend for certification.
02:46:50.000And these hearings occur behind closed doors.
02:47:11.000But now we have our Secretary of State using Help America Vote Act funds, federal funds, which really comes down to our tax dollars, And they're executing a propaganda campaign, they're calling it Vote Texas, and they have this big bus, and they're driving it around the state with this banner saying, electronic voting is faster, safer, more secure, and they have these electronic voting systems on board.
02:47:35.000We're paying the tab for this disinformation campaign.
02:47:37.000But the good news is their propaganda doesn't work anymore.
02:47:40.000You see, the establishment's taken power, they've stolen the elections, but they're being discredited as they do it.
02:47:45.000As they win, they're losing, is my point.
02:47:48.000Well, we're going to do our best to make sure that continues to happen.
02:47:51.000Is there a way to block them from using voter funds for propaganda?
02:48:04.000Well, this was a kick-off campaign where they were describing the Vote Texas bus and where it was going to go, and we got an invitation sent by some Democratic group online.
02:48:20.000So several of our Vote Rescue people RSVPed They showed up and they were escorted out by police and told it was a private meeting and that it was a private building.
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02:51:36.000Can you believe you can find all this at one stop?
02:52:30.000Well, our folks were just wandering around, just, you know, starting to, the meeting hadn't started yet, and they were just there to observe, and they were not there disrupting anything, and at the very, very beginning, police officers came and escorted them out, and it was Amazing!
02:52:47.000This was a public function, but they said this isn't public.
02:52:49.000They said it's a public, it's a private meeting, and it's a private building.
02:52:53.000So I'm trying to figure out since when did the Bob Bullock Museum become a private building?
02:53:25.000Um, a felon by the name of Greg McKay with the Knox County Election Commission sent me an email offering $25 for vote training, which I find offensive, and of course the impetus was the million dollars or so that Knox County, Tennessee got with the Help America Vote Act.
02:53:42.000We've emailed back and forth, and he's contacted me assuring me that these Hart InterCivic machines are secure.
02:53:51.000We know all about Hart InterCivic, Vicky.
02:53:55.000Well, the Hard Inner Civic machines have software that's still, you know, secret, proprietary software that has not been reviewed.
02:54:01.000However, an old version of their software is about to be reviewed by a computer programmer and we'll find out what it includes and then we have at least a case to make to them to prove to us if there are... Well, none of it should be secret.
02:54:43.000I'm about eight months new to the movement here.
02:54:45.000I just wanted to call and say that When I was down in Florida, there were people that were actually standing outside for the 2004 election saying, uh, let your vote count, ask for a receipt.
02:54:56.000And there were fairly few, uh, fairly large amount of people that were actually trying to ask for a receipt, and they couldn't even get one.
02:55:08.000There are certain voting systems in Florida that do have paper ballots being used and run through optical scan counters, which are corrupt.
02:55:15.000But now they passed a law in Florida that makes it against the law to recount paper ballots by hand once they've been run through a machine.
02:55:23.000Oh, so they're... Plus having a receipt, how are you going to pile them together and recount?
02:55:38.000Yeah, I actually just wanted to call about the voter fraud thing.
02:55:41.000I've been here in the Capitol handing out pamphlets on how e-voting is corrupt and it won't work.
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