Alex Jones sits down with Gore Vidal in Austin, Texas to talk about the police state, 9/11, and the coup d'etat that led to the end of the American Republic. Alex Jones is a long-time radio host and host of The Alex Jones Show on the Global Conspiracy Network.
00:00:35.000I also have several other bios, literary bios of Gore Vidal.
00:00:38.000If I tried to cover all of this, it would take several hours.
00:00:43.000But he is one of the only living literary legends, right up there with the great folks like Kurt Vonnegut, who is on board with what we do here.
00:00:53.000And we are so honored to have Gore Vidal with us.
00:00:56.000I spent a lot of time last week and this weekend and showed him my crew.
00:01:12.000We're going to talk about the police state unfolding, talk about 9/11, talk about the empire, where we're going as a society, as slaves in the empire.
00:01:21.000Gore Vidal, thank you for joining us, sir.
00:01:23.000Gore Vidal: Well, very happy to be there and looking forward to actually being in Austin fairly soon for the first time.
00:01:31.000Well, we're on all over the country, but our home base is Austin, and I certainly look forward to coming out and maybe getting a 10-minute interview with you for my local TV show, but tell us why you're going to be in Austin and what your latest work is.
00:02:53.000It's huge, and you're going to be there.
00:02:56.000and so we'll tell folks about that coming up after this break.
00:03:01.000These days, I just want to get a gauge of where you're at, sir.
00:03:05.000What are you thinking about most these days, Gore Vidal?
00:03:09.000Well, I'm thinking most about the coup d'etat post-9-11, in which we lost the Republic, and I find that disturbing.
00:03:21.000So the only way that I could do something about it I've been stumping all over the state of California for Democratic candidates for Congress and I've gone further afield around the country and pointing out some of the dangers and some of the contradictions of the junta that currently rules us and beginning to feel that a tide is changing
00:03:52.000The first twinge of optimism that I've had in some time.
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00:08:08.000Looking at my call board here, I know we have calls from as far away as Australia, Canada.
00:08:15.000And we're going to take calls the last 15, 20 minutes or so in this interview with Gore Vidal.
00:08:21.000But, specifically, it needs to be a question for Gore Vidal.
00:08:27.000Again, we don't screen calls here, but I ask the listeners when we have a special guest to try to keep it on the topics that we've been discussing.
00:08:34.000The toll-free number to join us is 800-259-9231.
00:08:38.000But he is really a historian and written incredible historical novels.
00:08:42.000He, of course, has won so many laurels and awards that I can't even begin to try to go through them all.
00:08:49.000If you'd like to read several different bios on this incredibly well-traveled individual, this great mind, I've read several of his novels.
00:09:00.000I'll wait until they hear that we interviewed him.
00:09:02.000You certainly need to go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com to do that.
00:09:07.000For stations that just joined us, we were talking to Gore Vidal, the author, during the last segment, and he brought up The Death of the Republic.
00:09:15.000And it's not just Gore Vidal saying that now.
00:09:31.000And we're going to be talking to Gore Vidal about that today.
00:09:35.000Gore Vidal, again, thank you so much for joining us, sir.
00:09:37.000Speaking about the death of the Republic, from your unique perspective, historically, why do you say the Republic is dead?
00:09:44.000Well, you know, I lived through... This is California's finest that you hear.
00:09:54.000I lived through most of the 20th century.
00:09:57.000I was brought up in Washington, D.C., in my grandfather's house, and he was a blind man, but he put together something called the State of Oklahoma.
00:10:12.000And was elected their first senator in 1907 and served till 37.
00:10:18.000And the Constitution and our Republic was very much on his mind.
00:10:24.000He used to say to me, just as a kid growing up, he knew I was going to be political in some way.
00:10:31.000He always said, remember that the only phrase that matters in all of our great public papers is due process of law.
00:10:41.000I mean, that was tattooed on my brain, and it's still there.
00:10:47.000And when we lost habeas corpus in a recent paper by Mr. Gonzalez and his masters, I thought, wow!
00:10:57.000I didn't think I would live so long to see that one go.
00:11:10.000Spirit of Runnymede runs no longer in our Republic and a number of things were very disturbing.
00:11:20.000One was the two stolen elections of the year 2000-2004.
00:11:27.000There's some disagreements on to what extent, who did it and so on, but electronic balloting machinery seems to have been responsible for a great deal of the theft.
00:11:38.000That took place, first in Florida in 2000, then in Ohio in 2004.
00:11:45.000Now, when I really took alarm, I've always hated the New York Times for many, many good reasons.
00:11:53.000Because it covers up so much that it ought to be.
00:11:56.000But then poses as if it's, you know, the trusted name.
00:12:11.000You know, this really was an alarm bell in my head.
00:12:18.000Apropos the election of 2004, a first-rate congressman called John Conyers, who is the ranking Democrat of the Judiciary Committee in the House and will be head of the committee should the Democrats come back, He went up with a pretty big crew of investigators to Ohio to investigate the Secretary of State there, who was up to all sorts of mischief, a man called Blackwell, who's now running for governor.
00:12:46.000And there was a lot of work done on who had stolen what election, who had made it impossible for certain minorities to vote by saying that they had the same names as Elon, and so forth, all the usual negative nonsense.
00:13:03.000So, Conyers came out with a report on it, which was a small book.
00:13:10.000To be helpful, I said I would write a preface to it, get a publisher in Chicago, where it was duly published.
00:13:18.000Now, here it is all, there it is right in front of you, who was where when, at what polling booth, and how the vote was reversed, how many Diebold machines were used, how many Sequoia, and so forth.
00:13:33.000Then I thought, well, thank God, at last we've got it done.
00:13:48.000No, this is from a distinguished member of Congress, from the Judiciary Committee.
00:13:53.000And let's be clear, and again we're talking to Gore Vidal, the famous author and researcher, they didn't just review it and try to poke holes in it, which they knew they couldn't, they just refused to review it.
00:14:11.000As did, I think, the Wall Street Journal.
00:14:14.000The only paper any of us has ever heard of that reviewed it was the Boston Globe.
00:14:20.000And I thought, really, if the principal newspapers of the country refuse to take notice of the fact that a presidential election has been twice stolen, and an imposter is pretending to be president, and guiding us straight into wars, which benefit his cronies, and companies like Halliburton, then we've had it.
00:14:53.000The Congress has been pretty hopeless for some time.
00:14:57.000And what horrifies me most is that there's never any indication of, okay, 90% bad, 10% good is still happening, It's every signpost as we're going into authoritarian, despotic fascism.
00:15:27.000We have, you said earlier in the program, the things that Hitler never got down to actually writing up as proclamations and so on, but this did anyway.
00:15:39.000These people are now trying to give a gloss of legality to Mr. Gonzales, who is, you know, to me, every time I see him, he's a reincarnation of Truman Capote, and he's just only talking about how quaint Geneva Accords are.
00:15:57.000They have no idea of cause and effect.
00:15:59.000If we don't sign them, this is how you treat your prisoners that you take in a war.
00:16:05.000And we reserve the right to put them in terrible prisons, torture them to death sometimes.
00:16:12.000It never occurs to these fools that that will be done to American soldiers.
00:16:18.000I spent three years in World War II, and many terrible things went on in the Pacific.
00:16:24.000Some for which Americans were responsible and some for which Japanese were responsible.
00:16:29.000But everybody was trying to hold the fort on legalized torture, which certainly was not on offer.
00:16:38.000It was certainly never certified from the highest levels.
00:16:42.000Where do you see it going in the future?
00:16:43.000Because Bush is a cornered rat, though he is a titan of a rat.
00:16:49.000He's extremely powerful still, but I see him being cornered now.
00:17:36.000There are no voices expressing Disagreement.
00:17:41.000Much less saying, every time you say, I'm wartime president, I'm wartime president, just say, well, you're not a wartime president.
00:17:48.000You have to have a country for a war, and you cannot have a war unless declared by Congress, which they will not do, as subservient as they are.
00:17:58.000So, why he isn't shut up on that issue, I don't What do you see in your crystal ball from your 40 plus years of research and watching politics?
00:18:09.000What does Gore Vidal see in the next two years?
00:18:13.000I see the bankruptcy of the United States of America.
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00:19:42.000Well, people who go to first-rate restaurants know they're gonna pay a lot of money, but These were for what they thought of as run-of-the-mill, ordinary restaurants.
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00:24:35.000Gore Vidal, I mean, again, his bio is so lengthy and everything he's been involved in, the things he's witnessed, the books he's written, the awards he's gotten, Just, if you don't know who Gore Vidal is, or only heard the name in passing, go to Infowars.com, read his bio.
00:24:49.000Right now, I don't want to burn our time up doing that though, so spend some time and check out the new book he's got out as well.
00:24:56.000Gore Vidal, Foundations, you know, Hitler used crises he created as a pretext to gain control.
00:25:03.000We know that the Roman Emperors loved to do this, problem-reaction solution, the Hegelian dialectic We know that there is false flag terror.
00:25:11.000Our government admits it staged terror attacks in 1953 to overthrow Iran.
00:25:14.000They claimed our ships were attacked to expand the Vietnam War in 1964.
00:27:03.000Well, Mr. Vidal, let me get down to brass taxes, and I'll dig through here and get some of the quotes that you've reportedly said, and I'm going to actually listen to some of these interviews.
00:27:12.000You bring up the fact that the head of Pakistani intelligence wired $100,000 as a supposed lead hijacker.
00:27:18.000Well, Pakistan's known to be basically an MI6-CIA front.
00:27:24.000troops mass there around Afghanistan in the months before.
00:27:28.000Bush had a launch order on his desk to attack.
00:27:30.000I mean, how do they have all that specifically ready?
00:27:32.000I mean, in the quotes I've seen here from you, it looks like you're pointing towards, I mean, I guess, let it happen on purpose instead of made it happen on purpose?
00:27:48.000There are moments when you go by opinions, and moments when you go by the facts.
00:27:52.000It is quite true that the head of the Pakistani Secret Service, he was in Washington meeting with Mr. Tenet, whatever his name was, the head of the CIA, at an ordinary bureaucratic meeting.
00:28:10.000And while they were there, suddenly the head of the IS something or other, they call it, the Pakistani... Mahmood Ahmad ISI.
00:28:24.000He cables one of his people in Islamabad, where their headquarters is, to send a hundred thousand dollars, wire it, to Mohammed Atta, who is somewhere in the Midwest, and who is the principal, who is the chief, of the gang that bombed New York, the Pentagon and so on.
00:28:48.000I found that in the Times of India, generally a pretty reliable paper, the Wall Street Journal even repeated the story about the time right after 9-11 saying that a warning had come.
00:29:03.000And the 9-11 Commission said they're not interested in the money.
00:29:06.000But I mean, how could he, the week before the attacks, wire this money when he's meeting at the White House, he's meeting at the House and Senate's Intelligence Committee Chairman on the morning of 9-11, meeting with Goss and Senator Graham, Bob Graham of Florida.
00:29:18.000They're all meeting there, and there's this $100,000 payment, you know, right before this happens.
00:29:23.000Quick break, we're going to come back and talk.
00:29:25.000More about this with our guest, Gore Vidal.
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00:33:31.000And Mr. Vidal, I've got to be honest with you.
00:33:33.000Going from the transcripts of what I've read of what you've said on other radio shows and in print interviews and even overseas, You have, what you basically said earlier, let it happen on purpose.
00:33:46.000Then I look at Al-Qaeda, the fact that Brzezinski brags that in 1979 he founded it.
00:33:52.000They used him to attack the Serbs in 1999.
00:33:55.000Senate report, Alfonso Amado chairman.
00:33:58.000We know that these groups get financed.
00:34:31.000And if you remember, at the time of Timothy McVeigh and what happened in Oklahoma City, immediately the Justice Department came up with a very draconian set of laws for us to live by.
00:34:50.000And that was, alas, on Clinton's watch.
00:34:54.000They never got a chance to put it through because the McVeigh thing didn't turn into a great national Uh, revulsion.
00:35:04.000And you corresponded, you corresponded more than anyone else, uh, in the press, according to the press reports I've seen, or is that accurate, with McVeigh?
00:35:14.000And he was somebody deeply concerned, I'm not saying that I approve of what he did, blowing up a building, and killing a lot of innocent people, but simultaneously, he was a hero in the Gulf War, he got the Bronze Star, Army was eager to get him back in, And he's somebody who cared about the Constitution.
00:37:10.000Well, it was, uh... It certainly was a good rehearsal for what was coming, and my point I was about to make was that, uh, once this, uh, omnibus crime thing existed in the Justice Department, now we have A new Attorney General and so on.
00:38:01.000In fact, that's how my new film, Terror Storm, opens, is with Hitler.
00:38:04.000You know, Hitler staged that attack on his own military base outside Glywoods to kick off the war.
00:38:10.000That's now conclusively admitted to from the Nazi documents.
00:38:13.000I mean, if Hitler could stage attacks on himself, why couldn't George Bush?
00:38:17.000Because he had to finish breeding my pet goat.
00:38:23.000This is very difficult for him to read.
00:38:26.000Well, you know, folks say that George Bush can't fight his way out of a paper bag, and that Rove and his handlers are buffoons, but I read an Israeli plan from 1983, and I read a 2002 Pentagon plan, which I can send to you if you haven't seen them.
00:38:38.000I know you're very informed yourself, where they said they wanted to break the country in three parts, have it in a sectarian war.
00:38:44.000Now, I think they were planning to cook a turkey.
00:38:46.000They may have overcooked it, where it's imploding.
00:38:48.000Oh yeah, but I don't think the brain is his.
00:38:50.000I listened to him yesterday on television.
00:38:51.000was their plan I see that as genius I see Bush as an aspiring dictator showing great acumen but but you don't agree with that oh yeah but I don't think the brain is his I think it's Karl Rose I listened to him yesterday on television he's up in Buffalo I think and it's very very clever and very mischievous I mean, this is a thoroughly bad man.
00:39:39.000I mean, these are questions that you could shut these people up if there was an immediate attack, or if there was a Congress which was capable of oversight.
00:39:48.000Well, the Army's own report in the National Intelligence Assessment, unanimously, if you believe in the real terrorism paradigm, shows that this has increased the threat of terrorism two-fold.
00:40:13.000But, sir, Gore Vidal, that's the neocon plan, is to P-2-O-G, the Pentagon Plan 2003, to, quote, stir up and elicit terror attacks, again creating the tension as a pretext to widen the war.
00:41:45.000I tried to find the clip, but I saw it, one of my staff saw it, one of my crew witnessed it.
00:41:49.000And you're on there and you said, I just want to thank CNN.
00:41:52.000This has been the first time in months I've been allowed to go on a TV show without military intelligence stomping around in the background.
00:41:59.000Was that a joke, tongue-in-cheek, or did that really happen?
00:42:26.000And it was at the time of Timothy McVeigh's event in Oklahoma City.
00:42:33.000And I was in Italy, and they'd sent a crew over, a crew came down from London, for TV, to be on the morning show, and so on, and Mr. Gibson, I think he's called, Charles something, and I start to go into the background of why Timothy McVeigh did what he did, and he had declared war on the federal government, because of what had happened at Waco, and they had
00:43:01.000Gone out of their way to destroy a bunch of religious nuts who were all living in a compound with Mr. Koresh.
00:43:20.000Army and its weaponry to incinerate these innocent people.
00:43:26.000And that's, you know, The Posse Comitatus Act of 1875 says you may not use the American Army against American people, no matter how much order you think you should be keeping.
00:43:38.000And they did that, which broke the law.
00:43:41.000McVeigh, who was momentarily out of the Army, where he had been much decorated in the Gulf War, became absolutely furious.
00:43:52.000He saw that everything he cared about, he knew about the Constitution, This was not just another dumb kid with a pianist on him.
00:45:25.000Bush has spent $1.6 billion the last two years on illegal fake news, buying reporters.
00:45:30.000Specifically though, what do you know about the cases you've dealt with?
00:45:34.000I can't point a finger at who the spook was, or from what department he came.
00:45:40.000I know that voices that they don't want to hear, instead of saying, as you suggest, you know, or using my favorite word on CNN, briefly, says Wolf, uh, Mr. Vidal, what is the meaning of life?
00:46:15.000We are heavily censored, let us put it simply in one sentence.
00:46:19.000But how is the elite, you talk about our overlords, how are they going to deal with the fact that alternative websites telling the truth can pop up and be bigger than the Dallas Morning News website in a matter of months?
00:46:33.000Yes, folks, it took us eight years to get bigger than the Dallas Morning News at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
00:46:38.000Now, 25-year-olds can start a website in three months, beat us, because they've got what people want to hear.
00:46:44.000How is the establishment going to deal with that?
00:48:26.000But he said, if you frighten them sufficiently, the Red Bolsheviks are coming, the Russian hordes are coming, they're going to sweep the Germans into the sea, they're going to destroy it.
00:50:20.000So instead of paying taxes, which would benefit everybody in the country, uh, he only gives the money to the Republican Party so they can keep on playing the game.
00:50:29.000Would you put it past Bush or his controllers to stage a terror attack as a way of smokescreening all their scandals?
00:50:41.000Well, how desperate will they be before they do that?
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00:54:37.000But finishing up that question that we ran into the break, Mr. Vidal, I mean, With all the other crimes of this administration and their overlords, do you believe that it is in their soul, do you believe they're capable of staging some type of war provocation, some type of terror attack, blowing up a ship, something like that?
00:54:57.000Well, they certainly know how to cry wolf.
00:56:50.000I thought I'd seen you on a CNN news program saying that the official story seemed surreal after the event, and it seemed that you were taken off of that panel right after that.
00:57:00.000In fact, you said he went on to say it just doesn't make sense that they could do it.
00:57:21.000No, I don't, because what made no sense is that CNN wouldn't follow up on why the fighter planes had not been scrambled and gone up to stop the hijackers.
00:57:58.000Did you know, sir, that for the first time since '57 when NORAD was set up, that Cheney took the powers two months before away from the generals to shoot down aircraft?
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00:59:15.000When you just joined us, I was remaining composed in the last segment, but I was reeling with rage under the surface because I see the news articles where What happens is you homeschool your children, but when you sign that form, which isn't a law, but you sign a form letting them know you're homeschooling, that's handed over to CPS for harassment.
01:00:35.000It's the new freedom initiative from ages 4 to 18.
01:00:37.000Now they're saying in Illinois, everybody, pregnant women, and they come and they interrogate and there's no law, no judge, no jury, no due process.
01:00:46.000It's already been going onwards in 6166.
01:00:47.000You know, with Patriot Act, Bush said, well, we've been doing this for years.
01:01:22.000They showed up, there was a very small minor discrepancy in which someone felt the need to put their business into our business and have CPS come out.
01:01:38.000My neighbor claimed that the kids were left in the car for too long.
01:01:42.000And, uh, you know, it's one of those things, you get the kids loaded up, oops, forgot something, run back in the house, get it together, run back out the car.
01:01:49.000No, no, no, that's your secret police America, they're just, they don't care if there's illegal aliens walking by their house, and they don't care if there's drug dealers, they don't care if the country's imploding and the president's a criminal, but, hey, let's tattle on our neighbors, sure.
01:02:01.000Okay, so then they said, they have their flu shots.
01:02:04.000And then they come in, and like you said, they're scanning everything like robots, and, uh, You know, and this is all according to my wife, but she also said that they asked, um, well, are they up to date on all of their shots?
01:02:16.000And she replied, she, she laid it off on me and that's fine.
01:02:19.000You know, she said, well, you know, Jesse's a little bit of a conspiracy theorist and he does not want them to have their flu shots.
01:02:25.000And, you know, you know, so she, you know, tried to be diplomatic about it.
01:02:30.000Which is the absolute wrong thing to do.
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01:07:52.000He is a former Marine Corps Infantry and Intelligence Officer for 20 years and was a second-ranking civilian GS-14 in Marine Corps Intelligence from 88 to 92.
01:08:01.000Steele is a former clandestine service case officer with the Central Intelligence Agency.
01:08:28.000And there have been a lot of reports written since he decided to valiantly go public.
01:08:33.000We had Bill Christensen, who was over the entire foreign threat analysis group of the CIA, in the top ten of the CIA for many years on, saying he cried over it.
01:08:45.000He couldn't believe it took him two years of research And unfortunately, all evidence points towards quote, total inside job.
01:08:51.000That's the only, only, with the data he has in two years of research, it's the only one that fits.
01:09:27.000And as we were talking before, Amazon is really a very valuable place where people can read opinions that are almost as good as the books themselves.
01:09:38.000So you can search for the truth on Amazon.
01:10:16.000You're a highly respected conservative.
01:10:19.000Well, I don't know if I'm highly respected and a conservative, but I'm certainly a moderate, middle-of-the-road Republican.
01:10:24.000Well, I did several days of research on you, and I know that you've been You've been cited and quoted a lot by the Republicans, and I mean, I've been a Republican, you know, going back 15 years ago.
01:10:35.000I stopped being one about 8 years ago, 9 years ago.
01:10:38.000But my point is, you're not some liberal with an axe to grind.
01:10:42.000No, as a matter of fact, it was the Tarpley book that took me to a new place, if you will.
01:10:51.000I have said on air, and I've read them all, folks, that that is the most sophisticated, basically what I...
01:10:59.000The conclusions I had come to studying government-sponsored terror for 10 years, and what I'd come to on 9-11, he put it all together in a way that I'd tried to articulate on air, but you really can't do in a radio format.
01:11:14.000I agree with you, and I think what I would say is that I'm still not convinced, and I was just looking at the review that I did on Amazon, I'm still not convinced enough to convict, but I am most certainly convinced enough to say the U.S.
01:11:28.000government did not properly investigate this and there are more rocks to be turned over.
01:11:33.000Well, I can read your quotes, they're actually pretty powerful.
01:11:36.000You're saying you believe that there should be a criminal investigation, and that there is enough to go after these people, and that once that opened up, that we would find quite a bit.
01:11:47.000Can you go over your awakening, your research, when you started looking into 9-11, and kind of the rundown?
01:11:55.000Well, my first impression was the impression that they wanted us all to have.
01:12:03.000But where it really started breaking down for me was when I read about the, not only the 11 countries that had given us warning prior to 9-11, but the 9-11 Commission did not speak to the general in charge of the watch of the National Intelligence Command Center.
01:12:22.000And then when I heard about the 100,000 from the Pakistani Intelligence Service to one of the hijackers right before 9-11, That really started a cascade of unexplained issues that Tarpley, I think, together with Crossing the Rubicon and several others, I've posted a list of books suitable for evaluating Dick Cheney.
01:12:43.000There's no question in my own mind that Dick Cheney is the Tar Baby in this thing.
01:12:49.000He is the nexus point, clearly with the PNAC documents, clearly two months before 9-11, taking the shoot-down powers for the first time in U.S.
01:12:58.000history, away from the Pentagon, away from NORAD.
01:13:02.000You then have him in control that morning in the bunker saying the order still stands, it's 50 miles out, it's 30, it's 20, it's 10.
01:13:09.000Of course the order still stands, if you heard anything to the contrary.
01:13:12.000Then you get into the CIA drills, the lies, claiming they never heard of such a plan.
01:13:17.000Clearly foreign intelligence was picking up InfoPol 9 and Echelon feeds, picking up the back chatter.
01:13:25.000FBI that picked up the chatter tried to go bust at least the Patsy's and the Moles, who were creating the legend and the story, were being protected from the highest levels.
01:14:08.000Well, there's no way that building could have come down without controlled demolition.
01:14:13.000And do you notice how they act suspicious and very secretive?
01:14:18.000Not one word in the 9-11 Commission about it.
01:14:21.000Five different reasons from FEMA and NIST for the collapse.
01:14:24.000Now they're saying they're having to look at explosions.
01:14:27.000I mean, clearly, why did they... I mean, obviously, Al-Qaeda couldn't sneak in there and plant bombs to bring it down with that perfect classical textbook job.
01:14:37.000Well, I mean, you do have the whole issue of The security camera is being disengaged.
01:14:45.000The bomb-sniffing dog is being removed.
01:15:14.000Well, there I agree with you, and I frankly am stunned.
01:15:20.000I think the American public is just starting to wake up.
01:15:23.000But I have been stunned that the numerous discrepancies haven't made it onto CNN.
01:15:31.000Lou Dobbs is doing a very good job on broken government.
01:15:35.000In fact, I'm featuring a secessionist speaker from Vermont at my conference in January because I believe this is a republic and that the citizens can dissolve the government when it gets to a point of corruption and ineffectiveness so great as to warrant a new constitutional convention.
01:15:53.000I think our government is indeed broken.
01:15:57.000Well, but from their view, it's not broken.
01:15:59.000We are seeing an imperium form of select global corporations that have brought off our government and they're using, dissolving us as not even an engine, but a fuel for an engine for global hegemon that I think we're later going to be basically broken up the end of the... You know, I think you're right.
01:16:17.000I take a very strong interest in what's called predatory immoral capitalism.
01:16:22.000And I would like to mention a book by Michael Lewis called Liar's Poker, which is basically an insider's look at how Wall Street gets into all of these investments early on, and then they leave the citizens holding the bag.
01:16:36.000And so, in my view, we have never had as much concentration of wealth among the fewest Americans in our history.
01:16:47.000And concentrated wealth is one of the things that leads to revolution.
01:16:52.000Yeah, and the neocons will say, oh, you're against free market.
01:16:56.000Much of this has not been gained through free market.
01:16:58.000It's been gained through mafia triads working in unison to basically extract corporate welfare to fuel their expansion.
01:17:09.000Well, one of the things, if you've read John Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman... Yes, we have interviewed him, yes.
01:17:17.000I don't think he worked for NSA, but I think there's enough meat to his story so that I'd buy 85% of it.
01:17:22.000And what I find really astonishing, and there's another book called The Global Class War, basically the American elite has conspired with other public elites, they've bribed other governments, and essentially the American public is being ripped off at the same time that foreign publics are being ripped off.
01:17:41.000Well, that's right, it's a mass looting.
01:17:57.000Oh, you really, oh, I tell you, you've got it, absolutely.
01:18:00.000I mean, in fact, I see Rupert Murdoch overseas attacking America, meanwhile he puts out domestic propaganda to keep us in line until it's too late, and they're just shutting us up.
01:18:11.000Well, one of the reasons, I just published a book, and I gotta say, there's a really fantastic congressman in Connecticut, Congressman Rob Simmons, is a moderate Republican, He's going into, he's running for his fourth term, he's on the Homeland Security Committee, and he has agreed to sponsor the Smart Nation Act.
01:18:30.000And what I really want to do is create a public intelligence network that is of, by, and for the people.
01:18:38.000Well, just using only legal, ethical information, but I absolutely believe now that the collective intelligence of the American people is superior.
01:18:49.000To any orchestrator... Stay there, we got a break.
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01:23:34.000And here he is talking about this organic intelligence network, the people, and how that interfaces with the Internet and how we're able to track the information and be so effective without the political Blinders that are put on.
01:23:46.000Please continue, sir, then I want to get into 9-11.
01:23:49.000Well, I believe in the common sense of the American people.
01:23:55.000I believe that the American people have been dormant for too long and they need to take their country back.
01:24:03.000Not only from illegal immigration, but from corrupt Congress members and from extremists in the White House.
01:24:13.000The middle road is the best road, and I am concerned that we won't do enough house cleaning in this November election, and we're going to waste two more years. and we're going to waste two more years.
01:24:34.000I will tell you, some of the experts that I've talked to and listened to basically say it's going to take 25 years to undo the damage that George Bush and Dick Cheney have done to this country.
01:24:43.000We have lost our moral standing in the world.
01:24:46.000We have lost more dead in the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq than were murdered on 9-11.
01:24:51.000And we have the bonus of 65,000 amputees whose lives have been ruined.
01:24:57.000And they've salted the earth with DU and Bush's signed HR 6166 that I've read and the scholars agree does affect citizens.
01:25:08.000He's buying billions in fake news and paying off reporters.
01:25:13.000I mean, using your intelligence analyst skills, I mean, everything I see shows they're going for broke, and even Bob Woodward says he may be going for dictatorship.
01:25:23.000They could start a war with Iran, they could stage more terror attacks.
01:25:26.000I mean, what do you think the probability of that is?
01:25:29.000I am very concerned, and there's actually a book out called The Endgame, in which a General McInerney and another officer basically lay out the neocon plan, and you can find that book on Amazon.
01:25:41.000I don't particularly recommend buying it.
01:25:43.000But it is a very, very serious agenda for basically after Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, these guys are looking at nothing less than nuking them back into the Stone Age and keeping the oil.
01:26:01.000But the real target in all of this is also the West, during this psychological clash like in 1984, but in the real world, Oceania being knocked back into the Stone Age liberty-wise.
01:26:18.000Iraq is never going to be a democracy like ours.
01:26:21.000And if they had a vote tomorrow, they would vote for a theocracy.
01:26:24.000But the neocons said they never intended it.
01:26:27.000They just told the public that they meant to break it in three parts and basically go into each country and break it down and make sure they never develop.
01:26:34.000Well, I don't know what they were thinking, but I will tell you that the same week that Cheney was meeting secretly with Exxon and Enron, Wired Magazine published a very intelligent cover story on alternative energies and the price points at which they become affordable.
01:26:50.000Well, they all just became affordable.
01:27:04.000You fly across this country and you see so much wide open space and stuff.
01:27:08.000But, you know, I have on my website, OSS.net, I have the 10 threats.
01:27:16.000I have a public daily brief and the 10 threats identified by the United Nations, which our federal government ignores, all but 8 and 9, proliferation and terrorism.
01:27:26.000And then there are 12 policies, and one of those policies is water.
01:27:33.000There are going to be water wars all over the world.
01:27:36.000We, and the Comptroller General, who's a very serious man, David Walker, he's appointed for a 15-year position, he's been telling Congress over and over and over, in the harshest possible terms, that we're not budgeting for the future.
01:27:50.000Well, I mean, sir, look at LCRA here in Central Texas.
01:27:53.000They're grabbing up all the water to shut it off to artificially jack up prices.
01:27:58.000Well, that shouldn't be allowed either, but I will tell you that we should be paying, and this may shock you, we should be paying as much for water as we're paying for gas now.
01:28:09.000I mean, you know, an aquifer, once it runs out of water and salt water comes in, is gone for 10,000 years.
01:28:15.000We should be building, it costs a hundred million dollars to build water desalination plants.
01:28:20.000We should be putting two into California, two into Texas, two into Florida, and we should be pumping fresh, distilled seawater, converted into plain water, back into the aquifers.
01:28:31.000Yeah, no one's planning for the future, you're right.
01:28:34.000Stay there, let's get back into 9-11 on the other side with our guest, an amazing individual, Robert Steele.
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01:32:40.000I am forced to conclude that 9-11 was at minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war.
01:32:45.000See my review of James Bamford's pretext for war.
01:32:48.000And I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict, not necessarily convict Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, and others of the neoconservative, neo-Nazi coup d'etat and kick off the Clash of Civilizations.
01:33:00.000See my review of Crossing the Rubicon as well as the State of Denial.
01:33:04.000Most fascinatingly, the author, like Samuel Huntington, author of Clash of Civilizations, with Leo Strauss, the connecting rod between the Nazi fascists and the neocons.
01:33:14.000This is, without question, the most important modern reference of state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the U.S.
01:33:24.000government, most likely led by Dick Cheney, with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Krongard, and others, close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism.
01:33:35.000The author draws on historical examples of the U.S.
01:33:38.000fabrication of events, the bombing of USS Maine and Havana Harbor, and many others, Jim Vanford's politicization of Northwoods.
01:33:45.000It is an undeniable fact that the U.S.
01:33:48.000government has been willing to kill its own citizens and fabricate attacks as part of moving the public.
01:33:53.000Okay, let me, before we go back to our guest, while he's on hold there, please go to InfoWars.com.
01:34:03.000That was a hint to the folks around the show.
01:34:06.000Please go to InfoWars.com and please get Webster Tarpley's third edition that we have right now of Synthetic Terror.
01:34:22.000And it's an excellent, excellent book.
01:34:25.000And it goes through how they orchestrate it, how they do it, how they control it, really from all the evidence, how they did 9-11.
01:34:31.000You need to have 9-11 Synthetic Terror made in the USA by Webster Tarpley.
01:34:36.000We sell it at InfoWars.com, the secure online video and bookstore.
01:34:39.000You get a great book to be a true expert on 9-11.
01:34:42.000You support Webster, you support this show.
01:34:44.000And while you're at it, get Aaron Russo's new America, Freedom from Fascism, just out on DVD, and my new film, Terror Storm, that again covers much of what is in Webster's book.
01:34:55.000Webster and I have the same approach organically.
01:34:57.000I don't think either one of us is queuing off the other.
01:35:00.000Again, I'm the fellow who told you about 9/11 was about to happen two months before it happened, made the first 9/11 film, wrote the first 9/11 book, and I'm here telling you Terror Storm is the definitive video on government-sponsored terror, and Webster Tarpley's Synthetic Terror is the definitive book.
01:35:17.000I concur, and I said that long before he did the review, on air, when we've had Webster on, telling you, this is the book.
01:35:58.000Going back to our guest, back to Mr. Steele.
01:36:04.000Robert Steele, let's get more into 9-11, more into your review, more of what you think the big smoking guns... I mean, that's pretty strong language of you to say, you know, you think we can have an indictment, and I agree.
01:36:17.000Please continue, and from your research on 9-11, reading all the big books on it, looking at Tarpley's work, if it is an inside job, which the evidence points towards... Well, let me move you away from 9-11 and simply look at impeachment.
01:36:33.000I've reviewed several books on impeachment, and it's now a documented fact, and in fact Al Gore was talked out of contesting the Florida election, but it's a documented fact that Rove stole the Florida election with the connivance of Jeb Bush, disenfranchising 35,000 or more people of color.
01:36:56.000That election was stolen, and they did it again in 2004 in Ohio with 12 Twelve districts, again, working through the Secretary of State in Ohio, stole the election.
01:37:10.000And that's just unbelievable to me, that then we would have an elective war in Iraq, based on a web of lies.
01:37:16.000General Zinni, myself, several others spoke out and said, this is nonsense, and we were called traitors.
01:37:22.000Dissent is treason under this administration.
01:37:25.000And then you have Katrina, which was an inexcusable Bumbling!
01:37:31.000That alone demonstrates this government is incompetent.
01:37:36.000Reading P2OG, reading the Israeli plan of 83, where they said break Iraq in three parts, sectarian war, good weapons sales, cut off the oil, jack up prices.
01:37:47.000I mean, maybe you'll elaborate, and maybe I don't disagree, but I look at Katrina, FEMA jammed communications, cut police lines, police had to aim guns at them to stop sabotaging communication, blocking the Coast Guard coming in, blocking the police and local firemen and others coming in, blocking Walmart.
01:38:08.000They wanted that to be as bad as possible.
01:38:11.000Then it doesn't matter if they take a hit and look bad in the press.
01:38:13.000Then they get to having a bigger disaster, hundreds of billions in no-bid contracts to Halliburton and others.
01:38:18.000Then FEMA goes, oh, see, we need more power.
01:38:20.000I see it as another problem-reaction solution, just like I read.
01:38:26.000Well, let me tell you what brings this home to us.
01:38:28.000What brings this home to us is the explosion in suicide bombings.
01:38:34.000There's a wonderful book called Dying to Win by Professor Pate from the University of Chicago.
01:38:41.000Suicide, the willingness to commit suicide, changes everything.
01:38:46.000Because it is the ultimate asymmetric factor.
01:38:49.000What this means is that a suicide bomber is coming to a shopping mall near you, or to an elementary school, and unfortunately we have our own homegrown terrorists.
01:38:59.000And we have our own, there's another book called Random Actors, where people just go postal.
01:39:05.000So I am very, very concerned that the entire world is becoming very, very unstable And I'm not sure that these elites really understand that ten years from today, there's not going to be any gated community where they can hide.
01:39:19.000They're going to have to do a Ken Lay and die before their estate can be contested.
01:39:40.000No, no, certainly in the P2OG plan, they say they're going to stimulate terrorist attacks, they're going to go out and kill people's families.
01:39:47.000It actually says this, Pentagon Plan, $6 billion program every year, in Iraq, the Middle East, they're going to go stimulate and create terrorists in the name of, quote, You know, widening the war, being able to, quote, go in and get them.
01:40:00.000So certainly they are, I mean, I see it this way.
01:40:03.000You've got real terrorism, normally not spectacular, a woman going crazy with a knife on a bus, stabbing 14 people, a person blowing themselves up.
01:40:11.000You do have that real warfare going on, desperation.
01:40:15.000Then you've got the provocateur actions that I see as the lion's share from history.
01:40:18.000Then you've got pure state-sponsored events like 9-11.
01:40:27.000Believe it or not, I believe in non-violence.
01:40:30.000And I believe that Gandhi had it right.
01:40:33.000I also believe in the truth eventually being discovered.
01:40:37.000I personally think America needs two Truth and Reconciliation Commissions.
01:40:42.000One for all the bad things we've done to the rest of the world, and one for all the bad things we've done to our own public, our poor, our working poor.
01:41:00.000If you look at the top list, and I've seen this on my shelf over and over, and I was listening to Derry Brownville today, and he had a guest on, talking about it.
01:41:07.000And you go to UT to try to hire the top 25 engineering staff.
01:41:21.000You go to MIT, maybe ten are American, and then hundreds aren't.
01:41:26.000And then they all go back to their countries with the technology.
01:41:28.000They all go back with what our forefathers and our incredible genius built.
01:41:33.000We were the place where all the inventions came from, everything.
01:41:36.000And now we have literally... I know there's a big group that's intelligent and informed still, but The average American literally has been turned into some type of low-level animal who just feeds their beast to you.
01:41:46.000Well, that's exactly right, because we still have a school system that is not only created to manufacture factory workers, but it's funded based on real estate taxes, which means a lot of people don't get an even break.
01:42:00.000You just said it, but see, that's by design.
01:42:02.000It's by design they've dumbed them down.
01:42:04.000I've got the Department of Education documents going back to the 60s and through the 80s.
01:42:08.000I've interviewed the number two at the Department of Education.
01:42:10.000They openly said they were there to dumb people down.
01:42:16.000I mean, all the evidence shows this is coordinated.
01:42:19.000Why do they want to destroy America that was such an engine of their dominance?
01:42:24.000I don't know, but I'll tell you what I believe is the solution.
01:42:28.000I believe the solution is a public intelligence network.
01:42:31.000I think Larry brilliant that Google is one of the most important people on the planet because of what he can do.
01:42:38.000Jimbo Wales from Wikipedia has just put out word that he's willing to spend a hundred million dollars to free key information from copyright.
01:42:47.000You have Brewster Kahle with the Internet Archives and he's digitizing books all over the world.
01:42:53.000I believe that if we can create an open source agency, such as Congressman Simmons is planning to introduce, that within five years we can cut the secret intelligence budget in half.
01:43:04.000Even by two-thirds, from $60 billion down to $20 billion.
01:43:07.000Okay, well, sir, now you're an intelligence expert, highest levels of the Marine Corps and CIA.
01:43:12.000Average people aren't going to get this.
01:43:14.000Again, I organically have come upon this, the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of researchers vetting each other's info, scanning everything, doing research using the NSA-type technology of the search engine drivers to go out and collate as analysts just because, in a hobby, Well, first off, let me give you the bad news.
01:43:32.000each other's info and blow away disinfo.
01:43:38.000I'm not claiming I'm some big smart guy, but for the general public, explain what you're talking about.
01:43:43.000Well, first off, let me give you the bad news.
01:43:45.000Your government is spending $60 billion a year for the 5% of the information they can steal.
01:43:51.000They're spending less than $600 million a year on what's called open source information in multiple languages.
01:43:57.000Yeah, they'll pay for millions to find out something that was in a news article a year before.
01:44:01.000No, they'll pay billions to have a Lockheed Martin build a secret satellite that can't see into city streets or under jungle canopy.
01:44:13.000The point I want to make here is that we are spending way too much money on spies and secrecy and not nearly enough money on education and diplomacy.
01:44:23.000And if we just have consultants, I mean that's what real companies do, they just have people that go around finding out, I had a guest in here a few weeks ago, working for big companies that just track things for the stock market and different derivatives, and they've just got people all over the world going and talking to average folks.
01:44:43.000Yes, and in fact, it's been proven that on-the-ground intelligence is better than what you can get from satellites.
01:44:50.000And there's just no substitute for human beings.
01:44:53.000Now, what the secret world doesn't want you to know is that public intelligence is a hundred times better than secret intelligence at a tiny fraction of the price.
01:45:05.000Well, I mean, what is the power of Google?
01:46:01.000But that's what millions of Americans who are news junkies are now doing.
01:46:04.000They go out and grab... I mean, I write articles that are 50 links.
01:46:07.000Every sentence is a link, documenting what we've said, and it's everybody else's information, but we're just collecting it and collating it.
01:46:15.000Well, the world brain is coming into effect.
01:46:18.000I think we're in about the fourth grade.
01:46:21.000The day is going to come when you can go to your computer and type in your zip code Select your issues that matter to you, education, water, health, whatever, and then print out a stoplight chart for who to vote for.
01:46:35.000Now I saw Google reporting on five years how they're going to have that.
01:46:38.000The problem is Google also says that they're going to use microphones with NSA keyword listening to show you advertising packages or to sell it to others.
01:46:50.000And they're also saying that they're going to tell you who the good politician is, but I don't necessarily believe the coalition that they're going to do, you know, claiming a politician is either pro-gun or anti-gun.
01:47:01.000Well, I think there will be cross-checking.
01:47:04.000I agree with Eric Schmidt and Larry Page when they say that the answer to bad information is more information.
01:47:12.000I think Google has made a very important strategic mistake.
01:47:17.000In dealing with the secret elements of the U.S.
01:47:32.000Well, you know, Google was a little hypocritical when they were refusing to honor a Department of Justice request for information because they were heavily in bed with the Central Intelligence Agency.
01:47:43.000The Office of Research and Development, my old friend Rick Steinhiser.
01:47:48.000Now, I think Google has to be purer than Caesar's wife.
01:47:53.000And I have no problem with their accepting some censorship from China and other places as the price of entry.
01:48:00.000But I do have a problem with their having a secret relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency.
01:48:05.000Well, obviously they're getting a lot of their technology from NSA backbone type systems.
01:48:53.000Well, no, I mean, I'm finding it interesting that, I mean, you're right, everybody else is paying, that's what my IT guy has discovered, is that everybody else is paying two-thirds more than Google is.
01:49:03.000We're trying to keep that out of a popular understanding, but the point I'm trying to get at here is I've had Google censor us, And they claim that it's an accident.
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01:53:32.000Just briefly before we talk to Patrick in Michigan and a few others, back to Google and the CIA.
01:53:39.000I knew they'd moved into some old NASA offices and were interfacing and doing a lot of really creepy stuff and that's when we saw some of the changes start to begin.
01:53:49.000Also, we'll have a story that, say, a million people have read.
01:53:52.000And every other search engine has it posted.
01:53:54.000But Google won't have ours posted, but we'll have some little bitty blogs posted because their filter missed it.
01:54:00.000And we know Google is filtering us out.
01:54:04.000And they're doing it to other people now, kind of like Kind of like you can't link through now, or a lot of the audio won't play on MySpace, won't play YouTube or Google videos.
01:54:14.000And I noticed this weeks before, it was in the New York Post, with Rupert Murdoch fighting with Google and YouTube, now the same thing, saying you can't play your videos.
01:54:44.000That is through the Office of Research and Development.
01:54:47.000And then that ties off into DARPA, doesn't it?
01:54:50.000Well, it's the CIA's equivalent of DARPA.
01:54:52.000Now, DARPA's doing some very good things.
01:54:54.000Strong Angel 3 is a free open source software package that can be shared with state and local governments and with non-governmental organizations.
01:55:04.000And where I think we're going, and don't misunderstand me, I think Google is one of the greatest things since sliced bread.
01:55:39.000TeleLanguage is a really fine company and it allows you to basically, if you have an employee that speaks a language, they can be logged on.
01:55:47.000And if anyone in your organization needs that language, they can pinch hit.
01:55:52.000And if they're too busy, or if it's not appropriate, it can default to a commercial translator in India or Indonesia or someplace else.
01:55:58.000Sure, so let me just stop you right there.
01:55:59.000Let's fast forward, though, ten years.
01:56:01.000Technology now doubling every two, then it'll be every year, then every month, then every hour, then every second.
01:57:05.000Prahalad, who's written The Fortune at the Bottom of the Pyramid.
01:57:08.000I am absolutely persuaded that we can, it's a term I use, information peacekeeping.
01:57:14.000I'm absolutely persuaded that we can use information in order to We've basically established belief systems that lead to both wealth and peace.
01:57:24.000And we also, frankly, have to root out evil belief systems.
01:57:28.000And that includes... Well, stay there.
01:58:55.000on in the last hour and a half, an amazing individual, and we had a caller call in earlier who doesn't believe in the North American Union, who doesn't believe in any of this stuff, he just thinks we're making it all up.
01:59:08.000And I've learned about the North American Union for, I guess I learned of it about 13 years ago, and I just can't believe that now it's in effect, and people are in denial.
01:59:18.000They just cannot, they cannot interface with reality.
01:59:29.000I remember back, oh I guess it was in 2002, in fact I have the article here, March 4, 2002, InfoWars.com, The World Bank and Secret Argentine Plan, transcript of Greg Pallast, journalist for BBC and observer in London, and you go through the transcript of the interview with Greg Pallast, going over what those documents meant,
02:00:02.000One, I spoke with the former Chief Economist, Joe Stiglitz, who was fired by the World Bank.
02:00:07.000So, I on BBC with The Guardian basically spent some time debriefing him.
02:00:10.000It was like one of the scenes out of a Mission Impossible, you know, where the guy comes over from the other side and you spend hours debriefing him.
02:00:16.000So, I got the inside of what was happening at the World Bank.
02:00:19.000In addition, he did Not brief me, but I got some other sources.
02:00:23.000He would not give me inside documents, but other people handed me a giant stash of secret documents from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.
02:00:32.000And it goes on to say that, and so one of the things that is happening is that in fact, I was supposed to be on CNN with the head of the World Bank, Jim Wilkinson, it's now Paul Wolfowitz.
02:00:44.000I guess you could have Wolf in your name to be there.
02:00:46.000And he said he would not appear on CNN even if they put me on.
02:00:49.000And so CNN did the craziest thing and pulled me off.
02:00:53.000So now they're threatening total boycott.
02:00:57.000We found inside these documents that basically they required nations to sign secret agreements in which they agreed to sell off their key assets in which they agreed to take economic steps which are really devastating to the nations involved.
02:01:10.000And if they didn't agree to these steps There was an average for each nation that signed 100 to 11 items, 111 items that they are required to sign off on.
02:01:21.000If they didn't follow these steps, they would be cut off from all international borrowing.
02:01:25.000You can't borrow any money in the international marketplace.
02:01:28.000Now, no one could survive without borrowing.
02:01:31.000And he goes on in the next, what, 10 pages, or the transcript is even longer than that, to break down what these documents entail.
02:01:38.000He put a lot of them on BBC, but there was a news blackout with this.
02:01:42.000We've always wanted to get Joseph Stiglitz on the show.
02:02:11.000If not, we'll have open phones in this third hour.
02:02:14.000Get into Bush's smoke and mirrors, so-called border fence, and a lot more.
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02:02:38.000Start going to your calls, and hopefully getting Joseph Stiglitz on.
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02:07:21.000Because they're just as bad, you feed them in and it's then put on a computer that can be manipulated.
02:07:25.000Well, the thing is, if anybody wants a recount, we've got those ballots on hand, but they have to refeed, because we are... You refeed them with the same county clerk stealing the election.
02:07:35.000Well, that's why we also have the observers.
02:07:40.000And if somebody wants to be an observer, they cannot keep you out.
02:07:44.000Now, if you have like 20 or 30 of them, that's why it's good to become an observer early on, so that they don't say, well, we've already got 20 people, sorry.
02:07:55.000If you read through the manual, it'll say step-by-step.
02:07:58.000And if somebody goes beyond that, if they add something they're not supposed to, if they take something out that they're not supposed to, make sure you catch it on tape.
02:08:06.000And you can demand to have a police officer come and arrest them for election fraud.
02:08:39.000And I was there, and I saw in the Republican primary, it was at the Austin Convention Center, I saw cases, I mean I was there stacking the Scantrons to make sure they were being stacked correctly or I mean I was there stacking the Scantrons to make sure they were being stacked correctly or in the right order, facing the right direction, and It looked just like a college or high school exam system, you know, A, B, or C, or whatever.
02:09:10.000And then it's fed to her and read by a computer.
02:09:15.000And I mean, Pat Buchanan had more than half.
02:09:18.000I mean, it was, because I have to admit, I was stacking them, I was looking, I was asking other people, I was saying, what are you seeing, Pat Buchanan?
02:09:27.000And you're sitting there, and then I'd take them and cram them in the machine.
02:09:32.000And then it came out that night, he got 8% of the vote in Travis County.
02:09:37.000And then they caught him in Arizona and other places where he'd really won.
02:10:35.000One of the other big bestsellers he had was Globalization, and it's a disconnect.
02:10:38.000Joseph E. Stiglitz, Dr. Stiglitz, won the Nobel Prize in 2001 for his economic ideas and theorems.
02:10:48.000I really think it's better for him to introduce himself, the most important points, because if I tried to go through all his letters and laurels, he would be here for all day.
02:11:10.000My theoretical work, for which I got the Nobel Prize, was called The Economics of Asymmetric Information, or Imperfect Information.
02:11:18.000It's about how markets work when some people know more than others, which is the case in all markets.
02:11:26.000And what was so remarkable is that for 200 years, economic theory had been developed on the assumption of perfect information, and it was just hoped that a world with imperfect information would be almost like a world with perfect information, and I showed that that was obviously not the case.
02:11:45.000But then the other thing I did is I was asked by President Clinton to serve on his Council of Economic Advisors, and eventually I served as the chairman of the council, which is his chief economic advisor for economic policy and a whole range of issues I dealt with.
02:12:04.000And then after leaving that, in 1997, I went on to work at the World Bank as their chief economist and senior vice president, which is where I got really very deeply involved in the issues of globalization, which I wrote about in my book, Globalization is Discontent, in my more recent book, Making Globalization Work.
02:12:24.000And rather than get into complex theorems and the unified theory of economics and all of that, because even for myself it's hard to understand, but for our general listening audience, some probably know as much as you do, but most probably don't have even an idea.
02:12:38.000Can you boil down why you left the World Bank, why you were critical, your term coining the IMF riot?
02:12:46.000What's wrong with the way that the global system is being administered?
02:12:51.000Can you crystallize it in maybe a two-minute statement?
02:12:54.000Well, the most important thesis that I bring out in my new book is that we've become more economically integrated, more interdependent, more dependent on each other, but we don't have the political institutions that can help us address the needs that we have to act cooperatively.
02:13:15.000We have to act cooperatively as we are one integrated world, world economy.
02:13:21.000And the result of that is that, quite often, there are big losers.
02:13:26.000And we haven't paid enough attention to those losers.
02:13:30.000Aren't we really, Dr. Stiglitz, aren't we really seeing modern neo-mercantilism?
02:13:36.000Well, we are seeing it in many places around the world.
02:13:58.000I know you're not here to dish dirt, but you did back in 2002 when you left as their chief economist at the World Bank.
02:14:04.000What was your major... I mean, I have the transcripts here and things you've written, but in your words, Why did you leave the World Bank?
02:14:12.000What do you think they're doing that's wrong?
02:14:13.000I mean, the predatory practices, the IMF World Bank documents that came out shortly after you left in the BBC, your meeting with Greg Pallas, where, you know, it's this predatory system of going in and blowing out economies so global financial corporations can come in and just take over.
02:14:33.000The more fundamental thing was that the whole system was rigged against the poor countries.
02:14:39.000...rigged for the advanced industrial countries, and that the result of that is that there were an awful lot of losers.
02:14:46.000To give you one example, the last round of trade agreements was so unfair that the poorest countries of the world were actually left worse off.
02:14:58.000So that while the advanced industrial countries, the big multinational corporations came out as big winners, there were unfortunately a lot of people who were losers.
02:15:10.000But the documents that were released, I mean the premeditated nature of this, who are the players that are behind, you know, not just rigging it where the industrialized corporations that control the industrialized first world systems, I mean really it's a type of weight, you know, the IMF riot, bringing in conditions that cause even greater collapses for greater consolidation.
02:15:35.000Part of the problem is they had an agenda that they talked about called privatization and liberalization.
02:15:40.000Privatization meant selling off government assets, assets that had been invested in over decades to foreign companies, often at a fraction of their true market value.
02:15:55.000So while the citizens of the country had worked hard, saved, invested that money over a period of 20-30 years, When they sold the assets, the citizens of that country got almost nothing for those assets.
02:16:11.000Other cases where water is a basic necessity of life.
02:16:16.000They would triple it in a week, as you wrote.
02:16:19.000I mean, the private corporation pays off the politician, basically, pays off the government, and then seizes the infrastructure and then jacks up prices.
02:16:27.000I mean, what happened with many of these cases, they had privatization before regulation.
02:16:32.000At least we understand that if you're going to have a natural monopoly, a company running electricity, selling electricity, if you have only one company doing it, you need to regulate it.
02:16:44.000And what happened, IMF didn't understand what we do here in the United States and what every other advanced industrial country does.
02:16:51.000If you're going to have a monopoly, you have to make sure that it doesn't overcharge.
02:16:56.000So they privatized these government enterprises, didn't put in the regulation, And sometimes the result of that is that the prices increased enormously.
02:17:05.000And then the predatory nature was so great it would even debase the economy to the point of where the privatization went belly up.
02:17:12.000There were many cases of that kind, but the example in Mexico next door, they privatized the roads.
02:17:20.000And then, of course, they weren't able to maintain those roads, and the government had to, again, take over the roads after the company had collapsed.
02:17:28.000Joseph Stiklitz, former Chief Economist, World Bank.
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02:22:35.000Well, the point was a very simple one.
02:22:38.000They sold the roads to the private enterprise, and the hope was that they would be more efficient.
02:22:46.000Of course, what happens is that They didn't maintain the roads, they couldn't generate enough revenue, and they eventually added default and put the roads back to the government.
02:22:58.000There have been lots of other examples.
02:23:28.000And it cost the people of Mexico an amount equivalent to about 40% of GDP.
02:23:34.000It's really one of the greatest robberies that have ever occurred.
02:23:38.000Exactly, and that was well publicized.
02:23:40.000Now, speaking of roads, I was going to bring that up, but not in Mexico.
02:23:43.000Here, the Spanish company Centrum does sweetheart deals, and they've done the calculations even mainstream news has, for about 5% of the true value of existing roads, they're being ceded them
02:23:54.000But we're talking existing major arteries, and being given them to put transponders in the cars, taxes at exorbitant levels, to fund a lot of North American Union projects, some of the government funding goes into that, the new SPP, Security Prosperity Partnership, that's come out, and so I'm now seeing the same IMF World Bank vultures coming into the industrialized world.
02:24:18.000Well, this is a movement that's gone all over the world, a movement trying to turn over Basic facilities, water, roads, to the private sector.
02:24:33.000The reason for, in part, the good reason is that exposably more efficient often turns out not to be the case.
02:24:39.000The bad reason, which is really driving it, is that the governments today don't have to pay the budget constraints.
02:24:45.000They get a little bit of money up front.
02:24:48.000But then the problems are left to future administrations.
02:24:53.000Isn't it also that 70 plus percent of the stock market ownership is by institutional purchasers in government?
02:25:01.000I don't know the exact numbers, but increasingly a large fraction of our stock is owned by, it's by our pension funds, institutions of that kind.
02:25:12.000Well, I looked at the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report for Texas a few years ago, and the lion's share was owned by companies.
02:25:18.000I mean, not companies, but by government.
02:25:31.000So you agree there is a massive move now, not just in the third world, with this so-called privatization that I call hijacking and looting, but now in Europe, the United Kingdom, and the United States, Canada.
02:25:45.000Some of the failures have put a dampener on this movement, and in the UK they privatized the railroads, and everybody today recognizes what a failure that has been.
02:25:54.000The railroads weren't maintained, the roadbeds weren't maintained, there were a number of accidents, people were killed, and so that a number of people are, on the basis of that experience, are rethinking this policy of privatization.
02:26:08.000What has caused predatory globalization?
02:26:12.000What has caused it to shift into such a predatory stance?
02:26:15.000Well, I think, of course, everybody's always wanted to take advantage of others to the extent that they could.
02:26:23.000I think the fundamental difference is a free market ideology that is being used, or more accurately, abused by those who have seen how to take advantage of that rhetoric.
02:26:36.000So, it sounds good to say Well, private enterprises are more efficient than government.
02:26:43.000But take the Social Security Administration.
02:26:45.000A couple years ago, there was an attempt to try to privatize Social Security.
02:26:52.000The fact is, the Social Security Administration is more efficient than any private insurance company, because they don't have to spend all the money on advertising and trying to cream skim to figure out who's the best risk, who's the worst risk.
02:27:05.000In the UK, they did privatize the Social Security system and at least part of it.
02:27:13.000And the result of that was that benefits were reduced 40% because of transaction costs.
02:27:18.000Dr. Stiglitz, final segment with you on the other side.
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02:31:13.000Dr. Joseph E. Stiglitz, of course, has written Globalization and its Disconnects, a new book is out, Making Globalization Work.
02:31:20.000He was the Chief Economist at the World Bank and the Vice President of the World Bank.
02:31:23.000What do you think of the difference between the last head, Wolfdenson, and the new head that we see here from the United States, Paul Wolfowitz?
02:31:38.000I worked with Wilkinson very closely, and we tried to actually redirect the World Bank to focus more on poor people, reduce poverty, a comprehensive approach to development, to try to cut back a little bit on the privatization, the liberalization, what was called the Washington Consensus, the consensus between the World Bank and the IMF and the U.S.
02:32:17.000The current administration has not, Wolfowitz has unfortunately not really been able to put together a comprehensive approach to development.
02:32:34.000But it hasn't even put forward a kind of agenda for dealing with corruption.
02:32:37.000For instance, there are these secret bank accounts.
02:32:42.000There was an agreement among advanced industrial countries to do something about the secret bank accounts that play such an important role in facilitating corruption.
02:32:52.000But the Bush administration vetoed that.
02:32:56.000In August of 2001, Of course, in September 2001, we realized that these secret bank accounts not only facilitate corruption, they also facilitate terrorism.
02:33:08.000But the focus was on increasing the profits of those who engage in tax evasion, all those who use these kinds of bank accounts for nefarious purposes.
02:33:18.000But that would take a global authority to do that, so I think on the surface, it sounds good, but that would be dangerous.
02:33:24.000But then it does show that Bush doesn't want to stop all of these other secret bank accounts.
02:33:28.000What do you think about things like John Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman?
02:34:03.000The effects are much the same as if they were a conspiracy.
02:34:06.000And the effects are, we've got super powerful global corporations basically buying off even Western governments and using the IMF and World Bank monies to basically go in and blow out economies and buy them up.
02:34:17.000In fact, that was one of my main criticisms, that they push these policies called capital market liberalization that let money, speculative money, come in, come out.
02:34:27.000You can't build factories of money that can come in and out overnight, but what you can do That kind of volatility destroyed the economy.
02:34:36.000The financial markets made money when the money was coming in, then they made money when they had to restructure the devastation that they left behind.
02:34:45.000They've signed it, it's officially now being set up, the Asian Union's been officially announced, but it seems like it's the same corporations that are in there writing up all of the basic laws and tenets of these new global structures, and the people, by and large, aren't even aware of it.
02:35:04.000And part of the thing is, there's something called the North American Pre-Trade Agreement.
02:35:08.000If it were a real pre-trade agreement, it would just be a couple pages.
02:35:11.000We eliminate our tariffs, they eliminate theirs.
02:35:13.000We eliminate our non-tariff subsidy and our subsidies, they eliminate theirs.
02:35:17.000But these agreements are thousands of pages.
02:35:20.000And of course no citizen can read that.
02:35:21.000Dr. Stiglitz, I mean, whenever we hear North American Union or any of this, this is really just powerful interest groups getting together, rewriting the laws under a new framework that suits them.
02:35:32.000Well, I think one of my concerns that I raise is that there is not the kind of democratic accountability and transparency that we've come to demand within our own governments.
02:36:16.000I mean, it's here, it's being set up, the three unions are being slowly merged together, but still the mainstream media will call that a conspiracy theory when all the official documents say that this is really being set up.
02:36:28.000Number one, I mean, what do you say about global government, or how it's forming, and why do you think there's so much denial by people that it's happening?
02:36:36.000Well, I mean, first, the fact that we are economically interdependent does mean that we have to undertake certain actions together.
02:36:45.000and if we don't, there are some problems that won't be solved.
02:36:48.000For instance, there were these ozone-destroying gases that were putting holes in the atmosphere, letting in radiation that was causing skin cancer.
02:36:59.000Absolutely necessary to deal with this problem if you don't want to get cancer.
02:37:03.000And so there was an agreement, a very specific agreement only.
02:37:09.000It just says you can't produce those ozone-destroying gases that lead in.
02:37:14.000But if you've got a global authority that knocks out secret bank accounts, and then of course that global power can selectively do that, that is the ultimate tenet of global government.
02:37:37.000I used to see these old cowboy movies when we were growing up, and there would be different states, and the bandit would always ride on his horse across the state line, and the sheriff couldn't stop him.
02:37:50.000Well, if you're going to have safe havens for criminals going across state lines, it's not going to be good for our global economic system.
02:38:01.000So unfortunately, whether you like it or not, we have become interdependent, and that means you have to address some of these problems that go across the borders.
02:38:12.000You've got to go in a minute, but what I'm trying to say is this.
02:38:15.000It's all the mechanisms, the apparatus of the IMF, World Bank, Ex-Im Bank, World Trade Organization, World Health Organization, NATO, you know, all of these are controlled by the same institutions, all the same money powers, and they're all causing the major problems, and then they always have a good cop, and I don't doubt you're probably a nice person, very intelligent, a good cop who comes out and says, oh, we need a loving, you know, global framework, and a good one, and you know,
02:38:45.000So, we're given the false choice of a loving global government, or an evil, nasty, fascistic, George Bushian global government, and at the end of the day, those of us that don't want interdependence, those of us that want to be sovereign, I don't think globalization's been good for the U.S.
02:38:58.000We've gone from the powerhouse to the, you know, to the uh... crap house, excuse me.
02:39:06.000Well, in fact, I think, you know, if we hadn't taken advantage of globalization we would actually be much poorer than we are now unfortunately we haven't managed it as well as we should now maybe I'm coming from the west I have a certain Midwest optimism that we can do better I and it's clear that we've made some very very big mistakes and you've repeatedly talked about the fact that we've been borrowing
02:39:33.000we're borrowing three billion dollars from countries elsewhere But I don't think it's a mistake that he gives these corporations, they're always left with the bag, the taxpayers pick up the tab.
02:39:43.000Well, I think that's right, and that's why we need more transparency, we need to have more accountability of what our government is doing, we need to know more about what it is doing.
02:39:54.000But that won't be resolved if we walk away from globalization.
02:39:59.000Well, I mean, regardless, the leaders of globalization, the people, the prime movers, they're always grab the money and run, and it's just a revolving door, and it just keeps, it keeps happening.
02:40:07.000I say, you know, go back to, you know, the way it was previous, or the Bretton Woods Agreement, you know, get back, I mean, look at what's happening to the dollar.
02:40:14.000In fact, let me ask you, where do you think the dollar's going, the debt bubble, the real estate market?
02:40:19.000I mean, I saw the Financial Times of London, what, three months ago, saying that the elite is saying we've got to position our money to survive during a crash.
02:40:26.000They're not even saying they can pull us out of it.
02:40:28.000Now there's only a discussion of them surviving the crash landing.
02:41:33.000But I'm saying the same institutions that have always done the same thing in the past feather their own nest at the expense of the third world and the first world.
02:41:41.000It doesn't seem like they're the people to continue.
02:41:44.000Every time they put us in harm's way, then they come back with a new solution.
02:41:49.000I mean, you take, say, Nigeria borrows $5 billion, they end up paying $33 billion, and then now we call it debt forgiveness to cut back some of what they owe, if they've paid $30-something billion off of an initial, you know, $4 or $5 billion, and then they don't owe anything!
02:42:03.000I agree with you on that, and in fact it's worse than what you describe, because accompanying that debt forgiveness is a whole set of conditions that make them give up their sovereignty.
02:42:13.000And in some countries, the loans in the first place were We're made for arms payments that go to arms dealers.
02:42:20.000The money didn't even go to help the people of the country.
02:42:24.000What elite do you think is preeminent right now in global politics?
02:42:44.000All of these groups are powerful and influential.
02:42:47.000I think, unfortunately, in this current administration, the defense industries and the energy industries have really been running the show, and it has been disastrous.
02:42:59.000I don't think there's ever been a time in recent history where two groups, two industries like that, have exerted so much influence on policies to such disastrous effects.
02:43:10.000So there's not enough separation of powers?
02:43:14.000Well, we still have our different groups in Congress.
02:43:57.000Due process, rid of habeas corpus, you can't be put in prison without...
02:44:02.000Uh, you know, uh, uh, government bringing charges against you.
02:44:07.000I think that almost defined us as Americans.
02:44:10.000Do you think that we are in danger of ending up having what you call the IMF riots someday here in America?
02:44:15.000Uh, I don't think we're in danger of those kinds of riots, but I do think that we ought to be thinking a lot more about our basic rights and principles.
02:44:25.000And that bill, as far as I can understand, really did compromise some of our basic rights.
02:44:31.000And we thought of it as only compromising the rights of some people who were not Americans, but once you start breaking down these principles, you know, there's a basic golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
02:44:45.000They said it didn't affect citizens, but it does say in there, it does, sir.
02:44:49.000Well, and not only that, other countries are going to reciprocate.
02:44:53.000And Americans are traveling all over the time, you know, doing business in other countries, So in fact, it does put Americans at jeopardy and no matter what you look at it.
02:45:04.000Do you ever talk to David Rockefeller?
02:46:17.000What they said is that I could stay as long as I didn't say anything and didn't talk to the press, didn't talk on radio.
02:46:24.000I had originally come there and said, you know, if I'm going to go accept this kind of job, I want to be able to speak my mind, talk about what I think is what ought to be done for Making the world a better place, helping the developing countries, helping the poor in the United States and other advanced industrial countries.
02:46:42.000They weren't interested in that, and so we amicably parted ways.
02:46:49.000Did they get mad when all those documents magically were released?
02:46:53.000Well, people at IMF were not very happy when I criticized them.
02:47:01.000I think they were particularly unhappy Because I predicted that certain things would happen as a result of their policies.
02:47:10.000If I'd been wrong, I think they could have forgiven me, but the fact that I was right made them particularly upset.
02:47:16.000And when you say correction, again, the Financial Times and others are saying they see massive upheaval.
02:47:22.000I mean, when you say correction, are you talking about... I mean, openly, the financial elite are talking about trying to survive what's coming.
02:47:28.000Do you think the debt bubble will pop, or what's going to happen?
02:47:31.000Well, I think it all depends on how well this whole thing is managed.
02:47:34.000There is absolutely no doubt that there is misalignment, is the euphemism that people use, and that there will be a correction.
02:47:46.000I think if it's handled well, there will be a slowdown.
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02:52:04.000We can have somebody on about any issue.
02:52:06.000If I'm going to speak on something, I know what I'm talking about.
02:52:45.000Well, I know the Dow's rigged with only winners, and I know the money supply's been devalued by 44%, so the Dow's really at 6,200 and something.
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02:54:39.000Ron in Georgia, you're on the air, go ahead.
02:54:43.000Alex, I just had a comment about the gentleman that called in earlier.
02:54:47.000If he doesn't believe anything that's going on and he believes that everything is just fine, why is he listening to your show?
02:55:07.000The chains of our captivity are not bound so tight as to deprive the mind of free thought.
02:55:13.000They lay rather on the foundation of the ever-shifting sands of lies and iniquity, shielded from the light of truth by the shadow of our own fears.
02:55:23.000Well, I just had a 45-minute discussion with a Nobel Prize winner, former head of economics at the World Bank, and he agreed with everything I said.
02:55:48.000I was wondering if you could give us some advice on starting a newsletter that basically copies all the headlines of Prison Planet from my local area here.
02:55:57.000For people that don't read the internet, maybe would pick up a newsletter instead, read the same headline.
02:56:03.000I'd take the articles we write every week, they're the best, and I'd take four or five of those every week or every month, or ten, whatever, and do it that way.
02:56:11.000And to get freedom to fascism in my local theater, that's the way to go about doing that.