In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, Alex Jones talks about the BBC Hit Piece on the 9/11 Truth Movement by Guy Smith and Dylan Avery. Also, Alex talks about a recent interview he had with the CIA.
00:00:35.000It is Monday, the 15th day of February 2007.
00:00:39.000We're going to be live for the next three hours.
00:00:44.000In the first hour and a half, we're going to cover all the different news developing across the planet and here domestically in the United States on a host of vital issues.
00:00:54.000And then we're going to have Dylan Avery, who's becoming quite a frequent guest, to give us his take on the unbelievably Shoddy 9-11 Truth Movement hit piece put out by the BBC that aired yesterday.
00:01:09.000We'll also be playing some clips of that.
00:01:11.000And then in the third hour we have the producer, the director of the program himself, who is scheduled.
00:01:44.000This thing was literally off the charts.
00:01:46.000Paul Watson will also be popping in from England to analyze some of the problems with the BBC piece while Guy Smith is on with us, but I want to give him fair time.
00:02:01.000Unlike his piece, they had 11 different debunkers on, and only three 9-11 truthers, Jim Fetzer, Dylan Avery, and yours truly, Alejandro Jones.
00:02:14.000It wasn't up until this morning on Google Video, and by the time I learned it was up, I was able to I watched the whole thing, but I was busy printing stories, answering the telephone, so I... I've got to watch it slowly to write notes.
00:02:30.000It was just... so much twisting, so much disinfo, so much misrepresentation.
00:02:39.000There is an 11-page article, 11-page article, up on PrisonPlanet.com by Paul Watson,
00:02:50.000I would have the headline, BBC hit piece explodes in enemy's face, or BBC hit piece backfires, but Paul's got BBC hit piece, a tissue of lies, bias, and emotional manipulation, outraged, truth community demands answers from Guy Smith, immediate reactions and apologies urged, savage agenda-driven yellow journalism, an insult to the truth.
00:04:42.000Because I wouldn't give them what they wanted.
00:04:47.000There was one Point in the interview, the last interview I did, well I'll tell you about it when we get back and then we'll get into all the news.
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00:08:54.000We're going to play, to analyze them, a couple of BBC News clips from the unbelievable hit piece that I just had a chance to see via Google Video this morning.
00:09:04.000Dylan Avery, Paul Watson will be responding, and we have the producer, the director, the Cheshire Cat himself, Guy Smith, joining us from BBC headquarters.
00:09:16.000We just talked to him during the break.
00:09:20.000With us, and I will see if he can contain himself from snickering and giggling, which seems to be his trademark when I had a chance to spend a week with him.
00:09:29.000And we are declaring war on Hearst Publishing, the BBC, and all other organs of clear, classical, yellow journalism, and we're going to decipher every micron of their propaganda in the next week to come, because this is important, Again, excellent piece by Paul Watson, BBC hit piece, A Tissue of Lies, Bias and Emotional Manipulation.
00:09:51.000This is the most lengthy article yet, and there are already hundreds of people are hopping mad about this.
00:09:57.000I mean, every 9-11 truth site out there is doing their own analysis.
00:10:44.000We'll also talk about Palm Beach Police using license tag scanners.
00:10:49.000And we'll integrate that with some other important news reports here concerning Big Brother.
00:10:56.000But let me just briefly get back into the BBC because I promise to and then we won't cover it again unless you call in about it until the middle of the next hour.
00:11:05.000Guy Smith interviewed me again for a week, off and on, at my office, at my other office, at the other broadcast studio, in Dallas, at Dealey Plaza, it just went on and on.
00:11:17.000I would have to imagine he probably shot, I don't know, 20 hours with me?
00:11:27.00020 hours condensed down to 3 minutes in the film.
00:11:34.000And for everybody out there who's writing pieces now, debunking the BBC debunk piece, you need to understand, I am an eyewitness to this.
00:11:41.000He said, we are not going to put Northwoods in, we're not going to let you discuss it, we're not putting Gulf of Tonkin in, we're not putting any real examples of our government claiming they were attacked, the government staging attacks against itself, or the government planning to stage attacks.
00:11:58.000Now, wouldn't that be important for a piece about 9-11 truth?
00:12:04.000And it's because of behavior like that that Popular Mechanics and BBC and all these other government organs, BBC is publicly government, Popular Mechanics has been government ever since it was founded.
00:12:16.000It's because of behavior like that that your hit piece is going to cause more people to wake up.
00:12:24.000Because you attack the truth with lies and half-truths and straw men, people are going to go investigate.
00:12:31.000It's only going to interest them more, and then they're going to find out they were lied to, and they're going to get very, very angry.
00:12:38.000So people are mad about this piece, and you should be, but take that anger and put it into the important work of getting the truth out.
00:12:45.000And that starts with going and getting the pieces that have been written, analyzing this propaganda, and emailing it, posting it to every Every sector and every corner and every region of the internet.
00:13:01.000But I knew, out of the 20 hours, probably more, of interviews, I knew one clip that was going to be in the piece.
00:13:09.000And sure enough, this morning, I hurriedly scanned through it, watching it, and guess what was in there of my meager three minutes of the piece?
00:13:18.000The final time they interviewed me was a Sunday night when I was starting the syndicated show out of the KLBJ studios and they put me in the business offices and I was sitting there in a suit sitting on the back of a chair.
00:13:32.000They said it looked more official and he started taunting me and trying to get me to get mad and get upset.
00:13:39.000He knew that I had to go and meet my wife for dinner.
00:13:41.000He was going with us with his crew and instead of 30 minutes it went on for almost two hours.
00:13:49.000And then I had to sneeze in the middle of talking, and I knew I couldn't say, oh, excuse me, I've got to sneeze.
00:13:55.000So I fight back the sneeze, and I go ahead and talk about Flight 93, but I hesitate, and my eyes water a bit, and I thought, man, that looked like I was stumbling on that question.
00:14:23.000They were getting so frustrated and so angry that day after day, they couldn't get me Picking at my arm, or they couldn't get me scratching at my ear, they couldn't get me... I know all their tricks.
00:14:40.000They couldn't get me blinking, they couldn't get me stumbling, they couldn't... I mean, it was just all basically soundbites continually fired out at them on a hundred other facets and issues concerning 9-11.
00:14:54.000And that's why I am, of the three people in there, I am the smallest portion of that.
00:15:01.000But they lied to me, just like popular mechanics.
00:15:12.000Balanced is not eleven people with the government story and three people questioning it.
00:15:23.000Balanced is not, hey, the one thing I want to get across is that our government overthrew Iran by staging terror attacks in 53, our government staged attacks on the destroyers of the Gulf of Tonkin in 64, declassified.
00:15:47.000Those three issues, no, no, no, no, no.
00:15:53.000It's just like going into court and not being able to put on your evidence.
00:16:00.000But don't worry, in the court of public opinion, your piece will air and it will air all over the world, and people will go into our websites and they'll find out the truth, and they will discover Who's really putting out the truth.
00:16:23.000There have been people here locally who have dug pits for myself and others, and they're the ones that fall into their own pits, and then they try to accuse me of digging the pit.
00:16:59.000And I've got two different ones here on this subject.
00:17:06.000One of them Headlined, UN Urge to Take Action on Asteroid Threat.
00:17:12.000Another similar headline here, out of the Reuters.
00:17:15.000An asteroid may come uncomfortably close to Earth in 2036, and the United Nations should assume responsibility for a space mission to deflect it, a group of astronauts, engineers, and scientists said on Saturday.
00:17:35.000Now you'll probably remember about six years ago I interviewed Mrs. Shoemaker, whose husband died in a car wreck, Mr. Shoemaker, who discovered Shoemaker-Levy, the comet that broke into five pieces and rammed into Jupiter, one chunk of it exploding with the power
00:17:57.000of tens of thousands of hydrogen bombs, giant black spots visible through binoculars on a clear night, five huge black explosion marks, one of them very close to the size of the Great Red Spot on Jupiter.
00:18:16.000And you're saying, what does that have to do with this report?
00:18:20.000It's because of my amateur astronomy behavior, and I took astronomy in college, and again, my dad's got a big telescope, I've got a medium-sized one, that I know a little bit about asteroids, meteors, planetoids, comets, and I have interviewed some of the leading experts in the world on the subject, and it was in that
00:18:50.000astronomy buff position of actual, really, entertainment for myself, that I watched a Discovery Channel program, and I believe the other one was a PBS Nova program, years ago, and I learned in those pieces that the U.S.
00:19:09.000government, the Russian government, and the shoemakers were there as well, along with Mr. Levy and others, Shoemakers have discovered like three major comets.
00:19:46.000to Jupiter, but the response to this threat is staged, and I'll briefly break that down on the other side, then we'll get into a bunch of other important news.
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00:24:00.000Big debate coming up with the master of the hit piece, Guy Smith, from the bowels of the British Broadcasting, Tomisariot, in the third hour.
00:24:25.000That was Orwell's last job before he wrote 1984.
00:24:31.000The book basically about himself, Winston Smith, working in the Ministry of Truth.
00:24:43.000An asteroid may come uncomfortably close to Earth.
00:24:45.000May come uncomfortably close to Earth in 2036.
00:24:48.000And the United Nations should assume responsibility for a space mission to deflect it.
00:24:55.000A group of astronauts, engineers and scientists said on Saturday, astronomers are monitoring an asteroid named Apophis, which has a 1 in 45,000 chance of striking Earth on April 13, 2036.
00:25:12.000Although the odds of an impact by this particular asteroid are low, a recent congressional mandate for NASA to upgrade its tracking of near-Earth asteroids is expected to uncover hundreds, if not thousands, of threatening space rocks in the near future, former astronaut Rusty Sweckhardt said.
00:25:30.000It's not just Apophis we're looking at.
00:25:32.000Is that some connection to Apocalypse?
00:25:38.000We need a set of general principles to deal with this issue, he said.
00:25:41.000A member of the Apollo 9 crew that orbited the moon in March of 1969 told the American Association for the Advancement of Science Conference in San Francisco.
00:25:51.000Schweckart plans to present an updated next week to the UN Committee on Peaceful Uses of Outer Space on plans to develop a blueprint for global response to an asteroid threat.
00:26:01.000And of course, there are several facets to this.
00:26:06.000Being somewhat of a buff on this subject, I have seen a NOVA special and a Discovery Channel special.
00:26:15.000And read a bunch of news articles over the years.
00:26:18.000I've seen video of UN meetings with Russians, Japanese, European Space Agency, NASA.
00:26:25.000And they're all meeting saying this is a great way to unite the Earth under the United Nations to defend the planet from the threat of these asteroids and comets.
00:26:36.000We've got to put powerful nuclear weapons or particle beams in space that can destroy these asteroids.
00:26:46.000So on the surface, it'll be a big hyped-up deal with the United Nations defending the Earth, the planet coming together, humans coming together to the outside threat, and Kissinger wrote about that in documents and it's in the report on Iron Mountain.
00:27:02.000It came out that the Sci-Fi Channel had federal government funding and Clinton's former chief of staff involved in a program to propagandize that we must all come together to fight the extraterrestrials, i.e., again, back to H.G.
00:27:16.000Wells, one of their top futurists, War of the Worlds.
00:27:22.000This is also an excuse for the United Nations to weaponize space Because these weapons that can be turned outward can just as easily be turned inward.
00:27:35.000With particle beams, missiles, and of course their main weapon, huge, solid, depleted uranium
00:27:46.000projectiles that are rocket-assisted out of orbital platforms or space planes and dropped into gravity wells to accelerate to over 25,000 miles an hour, having the same effect in their distribution of energy as a medium-sized hydrogen nuclear bomb.
00:28:12.000And I've had discussions with the former head of Star Wars program.
00:28:16.000I remember at the 9-11 Neo-Conagena Symposium in L.A., I talked to Bowman, Dr. Bob Bowman, for about an hour behind the scenes.
00:28:22.000He said, look, I can't tell you anything classified, but I can tell you what they've slipped up and said.
00:28:30.000And he said, one time I was in a debate with one of the current heads of Star Wars, and he just went ahead and admitted that they had these robotic space planes and these DU projectiles.
00:28:45.000But you take something with that mass, and you accelerate it, using the gravity well, with a rocket assist, and you fire a hypersonic missile, with a DU tip, into the Earth's gravity well, at the proper angulation, it's just unbelievable.
00:29:01.000And I said, obviously there's not humans piloting those, and he said, no, it's space planes.
00:29:07.000They're up there, flying around, right now, uh... in the edge of space and in space itself and uh... that's what's happening they can decapitate the entire leadership of the planet if they can ever target exactly where they're all at once I've been told there's another of these space planes and Jane's Weapons Quarterly has reported on it too they told you what four years before the B-2 bomber was rolled out about it of course that thing was in service back in the seventies
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00:33:47.000Before I get back into the news, there's a lot of big things we want to do here at this office.
00:33:53.000And for about a year, I've just been so busy making films and doing other things, I haven't had time to launch a plan I've had for a long time.
00:34:03.000Basically, it's no secret, an internet portal And by portal, I wanted to have all the functions that the major portals have.
00:34:14.000I'm going to have to hire three or four people to do it.
00:34:49.000I mean, I'm so busy fighting the New World Order, folks, that I get advertising requests every day.
00:34:55.000And if I pick the phone up and call and sell the person for five minutes, I can have advertisers on the websites, on the radio show.
00:35:03.000I'm so busy That I don't even have time to do that, much less even hire somebody to be a salesman.
00:35:11.000And I know I should just get that done.
00:35:12.000I should worry about financial stuff first and then get into all the nuts and bolts later.
00:35:22.000But the best way to support us so we can do all these things that we want to do and fight the New World Order at an even higher level, and you know we've been effective with God's help.
00:35:38.000You go to InfoWars.com and you look at all the books and videos, DVDs, books on tape, pro-Second Amendment t-shirts, anti-tyranny t-shirts, 9-11 inside job t-shirts, and you purchase a wheelbarrow full of them.
00:35:58.000And then, I can do everything I want to do easily.
00:37:13.000Or you can write to me, Alex Jones, at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.
00:37:23.000When you move, when you take action, when you stand up, when you get involved in little ways, those grow into big things.
00:37:33.000And all of us together instantly become something huge, and that's why the New World Order is literally panicking and admitting in Popular Mechanics and BBC and Vanity Fair and the New York Post that we have convinced the majority of the public that we're winning.
00:37:50.000We're winning on the Second Amendment issues.
00:37:56.000We're winning when it comes to the NAFTA highways, to the North American Union, We can have a reprieve for a time to wake up more people if we take action.
00:38:48.000When Anna Nicole Smith died a week and a half ago, we haven't mentioned it, have we?
00:38:53.000When Britney Spears, over the weekend, shaved off all her hair, and that was top story, not to build up for war with Iran, I didn't cover it Sunday.
00:39:03.000But last night, eating dinner with my family, I thought of those two women.
00:39:10.000And so now I'll share with you why I'm bringing them up.
00:39:14.000You have a woman, Anna Nicole Smith, who's beautiful, who's intelligent, and she was intelligent.
00:39:23.000I've seen interviews with her 10, 15 years ago.
00:39:25.000She was just completely drugged out every time you saw her.
00:39:55.000Well, what would it profit a man to gain the whole world, but lose his eternal soul?
00:40:04.000You look at people like Anna Nicole Smith, You look at people like Britney Spears, made hundreds of millions of dollars, in and out of rehab, completely unhappy, going crazy, getting tattoos all over her body, and shaving her head saying, help me, help me, and I don't think that was a stunt.
00:40:23.000I looked into her eyes on the video of her in that tattoo parlor, and she was completely out of her gourd.
00:41:14.000I mean, last night I left the Sunday show I did at 6 o'clock.
00:41:17.000I'm driving home and I'm up on the overpasses and I see one of the most beautiful and spectacular sunsets I've ever seen with gold and silver and red and orange and purple just shooting out indescribable beauty.
00:41:33.000And the green trees, and just the glint of the cars, and the highway, and I thought, here I am driving 70 miles an hour, this feeling of exhilaration on an open road with almost no traffic, and there's blackbirds, grackles, and starlings, and clouds in the skies, and I rolled down the windows and felt the 60 degree air just wash over me, and I just was thanking God!
00:42:00.000I mean, Last night it was a beautiful night sky, dotted clouds like popcorn, and stars and planets.
00:42:12.000I was walking around outside in the cold, dew-lit grass.
00:42:20.000I was just carrying the trash out and I was just such a blessing to even be alive and to see all of this and to be able to go to the woods and sit on a blanket with binoculars and watch gophers dig out their holes and squirrels and eagles land in a tree and owls and robins and to just I mean it's we are so blessed there is so much good in the world
00:42:48.000But last night at about 7 o'clock I sat down to have dinner with my wife and children and I looked at their glowing, happy, innocent faces.
00:42:59.000And they were eating with gusto and happy and their eyes were alive with life force and electricity.
00:43:07.000and I looked at my beautiful wife and then after dinner my children were making up songs for like an hour singing and they were playing with Legos and building Tyrannosaurus Rex's you know my two-year-old with Legos just built something with just like a Tyrannosaurus and said look and my son was building rockets they were building cities with blocks and and and it was just and they were singing making up these funny songs and they were so happy and I just thought
00:43:37.000God has just blessed all of us so much.
00:43:45.000And I just am completely humbled and blown away and it makes me just feel like dirty rags compared to God's incredible creation and what He's given us.
00:43:59.000And then I just thought about how sad Anna Nicole Smith is.
00:44:03.000I thought about how sad Britney Spears is.
00:44:05.000I thought about all these rich and powerful people that I've had a chance to get to know, and how so many times they're completely unhappy unless they're into whatever issue fulfills them.
00:44:16.000You know, trying to save the environment, or trying to stand up for sovereignty, or being informed about 9-11.
00:45:54.000So, Again, Madison Avenue are masters of making us feel inadequate, making us feel like we don't matter, making us feel like because we don't have the trappings and because we don't have the logos of success that we aren't successful.
00:46:18.000And then so we've got to go to them and watch their television commercials and find out how we're inadequate to then go basically slave and work for them to buy things that don't even matter to the globalists.
00:46:30.000They just produce these baubles to then hand them out to us like tin medals that Napoleon would hand out and he bragged that look at how men will throw themselves on the ends of pikes just to get a piece of tin.
00:46:46.000That's all it is, is these little tricks they learned, but more and more sophisticated, being used against us.
00:46:52.000I mean, the world is just going by, past you, while you're mesmerized by the television and by the culture and by this overall fraud.
00:47:04.000So I really think we start defeating the New World Order by humbling ourselves and by looking at the beauty around us, looking at the blessings around us, and then Tapping into the greater whole and having an attitude of sacrifice, having an attitude of the servant, having the attitude of submission to what is right.
00:47:26.000And by submitting to right, it means you resist the wrong.
00:47:31.000And the more you go down this path, and you're still going to be a bad person, you're still going to be fallen, you're still going to have problems, but by always striving To be better, by always striving to be more appreciative, by always striving to be more meek, by always striving to stand up for the defenseless, you will become stronger and stronger and stronger and more fulfilled.
00:47:57.000And your mind will open up to the world, your discernment, your understanding will increase exponentially.
00:48:08.000And I am just so sad because I'm a very sharing person and I've always taken great pleasure in others having pleasure.
00:48:27.000And I see so many out there who are jealous and envious and self-centered and they wonder why they're so unhappy and they are They are envious.
00:48:38.000They are hateful of others that are successful.
00:48:40.000They think they have to tear everyone down around them so they can be successful.
00:48:44.000That's what David Rockefeller is all about.
00:48:46.000That's what Queen Elizabeth is all about.
00:48:49.000That's what Queen Beatrix is all about.
00:48:51.000That's what Lord Rothschild is all about.
00:48:58.000They're all about dumbing people down.
00:49:01.000I mean, to me, that's the ultimate sin.
00:49:03.000Trying to warp people, trying to damage people, trying to hurt innocents.
00:49:09.000I mean, how could you not want to build for human potential?
00:49:12.000How could you not want to construct beautiful things?
00:49:14.000How could you not want to help others and have camaraderie and to collaborate?
00:49:20.000How could you not want to be part of that and part of the human experience?
00:49:27.000Well, most people really do, deep down, want to do that, but they've been taught how to be evil.
00:49:32.000They've been taught how to be self-centered.
00:49:34.000They've been taught how to be cynical.
00:49:36.000They've been taught how to serve power and corruption.
00:49:41.000And they're losing out in this one life to live.
00:49:44.000They're losing out on this one time on this planet.
00:49:47.000They're losing out on this one-time, one-shot experience, and it's being stolen from them.
00:49:53.000I want you, all of you, to be successful and live well.
00:50:04.000It tears my heart out to think that right now children are being given their final round of vaccines at 18 months that will cause them to go into a coma state or into deep autism.
00:50:15.000It tears my heart out to know right now black children, predominantly all over this country, are being taken from their parents to have pesticides and experimental drugs tested on them until they, in many cases, die.
00:50:31.000It tears my guts out to know right now a small child in Russia is being kidnapped out of their house to be flown to Saudi Arabia for a snuff film.
00:50:41.000It tears my guts out that evil is being practiced right out in front of us.
00:50:45.000And many people have been so bathed in wickedness they can't even recognize evil when they see it on television shows like 24 Torture Children.
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00:56:15.000Okay, if you do a Google search and look up T as in Tom, R as in Ray, 3, and then B as in boy, you will It's called the TR-3B.
00:56:27.000Yeah, NASA admits they've been secretly developing it and they'll show artist renditions for 25 years.
00:56:32.000They've got big ones, little ones, cargo carriers, attack craft, they've got the Black Manta, they've got the Aurora, there's a bunch of them.
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00:59:56.000I watched the BBC thing and it always, I'm sorry, it brought up something that I've always questioned about.
01:00:01.000On the second impact of the planes on the World Trade Centers, all the videos record something happening.
01:00:08.000When the plane impacts, it looks like on the opposite side of the towers when the plane impacted, it looks like something was ejected from the building.
01:00:17.000And this object that came out has this smoke trail that has a little corkscrew formation to it, and it actually looks like Some sort of a missile or a pod coming out the outside.
01:00:27.000Well, I mean, when you've got a plane at 560 miles an hour slamming into a building, pieces are going to accelerate out the other end.
01:01:47.000I see some things about her upon occasions on the Internet.
01:01:50.000I mean, she's running around with Paris Hilton, partying, this and that.
01:01:53.000I think it's starting to catch up with Brittany.
01:01:55.000I mean, she's been in the spotlight as far back as she can recall.
01:02:00.000I should say, I hope she doesn't turn out to be another Michael Jackson or something like that.
01:02:05.000Well, also, these women that are only obsessed with their beauty instead of families and life and living, then when they, quote, lose their looks, I don't think women ever lose their looks.
01:02:15.000There's something beautiful, just like an old oak tree about an old woman.
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01:06:59.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
01:07:04.000Alright, we're going to go back to your calls here in a few minutes, but first I want to play part of this Glenn Beck piece from CNN and analyze it.
01:07:09.000And you definitely know Lou Dobbs, you definitely know Countdown with Keith Uberman.
01:07:18.000He gets up on the air and he talks about how Iran's going to nuke us and they snuck nukes across and we've got to attack them.
01:07:24.000But then he'll mix in the North American Union might not be a good idea and things like that I guess to keep some credibility because he's not stupid, you know, for the audiences.
01:07:36.000But listen to this piece very very clearly.
01:07:39.000You think he's attacking Bush and he is at a certain level but there's several points you'll probably pick up on That he's not really doing what he claims he's doing.
01:07:48.000here's glenn back friday night c_n_n_ well here real story i have been uh...
01:07:53.000homesick for the last couple of days i don't stop the applause uh...
01:07:58.000beginning time to do some thinking i thought a lot about a ran i thought a lot about anna nicole and her poor little baby but most of all and i think i think to admit this about but i've got this growing feeling uh...
01:08:11.000that our government is just not being honest with us anymore Everywhere I turn, every level, I feel like I'm being lied to.
01:08:18.000That there's nobody in government that I can trust.
01:08:28.000They're all starting to tie together for me.
01:08:30.000And I guess there's nothing that illustrates it better than the border issue.
01:08:34.000Like most people in America, I have been so outraged with what has been happening, or I guess, more appropriately, what's not been happening on the border.
01:08:43.000With the immigration debate, it has been... it has been...
01:08:47.000Confusing, but that's not even enough.
01:09:11.000The real story is, the answer has been right in front of our eyes the entire time.
01:09:16.000But, it took a statement from the President in a press conference yesterday that I saw, on a completely unrelated issue, to bring it all together.
01:11:40.000I guess that ad is controversial as well because it says that the Border Agents help stop terrorists, weapons, undocumented aliens, and drug smugglers from coming into this country.
01:13:02.000The Associated Press reported last year what we told you over three years ago when Vicente Fox came to Austin, Texas and I bullhorned him and shut him down.
01:13:11.000He was here giving an award to the Austin Police Department for not arresting illegals for not having insurance or driver's license and accepting consular matriculus as driver's license.
01:13:39.000One of the other awards was to the legislature And the other, to a committee chairman, and the other award was to Wells Fargo that started all of this.
01:14:30.000There was a similar headline out of the LA Times last week saying they're catering to the Hispanic market.
01:14:36.000Acting like it's all Hispanics are illegal aliens.
01:14:39.000No, it's to the illegal alien market and they said in the LA Times and in the AP last year LA Times last week, AP last year, and it had different bank chairmen saying, well there's a move to force them out of the country, there's a move to stop these people from coming here who are doing jobs no one wants and we want to help them put down roots so they can't be expelled.
01:15:03.000So this is corporate America in a concerted effort with the Democrats and Republicans to break down the sovereignty of this country.
01:15:12.000So Glenn Beck makes you think it's just the money and it's a business issue, and that's a fringe benefit of course, but he doesn't tell you it's part of the North American Union and under the guest worker program, which is total amnesty.
01:15:26.000That any illegals that are here will be instantly legalized for six years.
01:15:31.000Anyone who can get here will be legalized.
01:15:33.000It will allow them to bring almost unlimited members of their family here, and it allows corporations to bring in unlimited skilled and unskilled workers on open visa issuance.
01:15:45.000You think your high-tech jobs are gone now to India?
01:15:49.000Oh, just get ready, they'll just bring more here.
01:16:29.000I'm sort of new to your program, you know, just the last couple months.
01:16:34.000I want to thank you for waking me up and all the great things that you're doing.
01:16:39.000I've decided to join this fight and got myself a DVD burner now.
01:16:44.000As soon as I figure out how to work it, I'm going to start burning copies of Terror Storm.
01:16:48.000Freedom to fascism, loose change, all those, you know, and start spreading them around.
01:16:53.000I like going out into the neighborhood and networking that and starting arguments with people and, you know, talking about these things and waking other people up.
01:17:13.000Now, I have a little bit of a question you might want to expound on this a little bit, but I really, I get a little confused when I'm talking with people about the war in Iraq.
01:17:27.000So many people are always telling me, you know, that Bush has, you know, why did Congress allow Bush to go in there in the first place then?
01:17:36.000And I really get a little confused, you know, how this all came about when You know, he doesn't have, there is no declaration of war, he doesn't have any congressional authority to do what he's doing.
01:17:48.000There hasn't been a declaration of war since World War II ended in 1945.
01:17:52.000Not in Korea, not in Vietnam, not in Gulf War I or II, not in Bosnia, not in Serbia.
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01:23:41.000And when I came in here today, I didn't think and my atomic clock said the 15th.
01:23:46.000When I said it, I thought, that sounds weird, something's wrong, but I just moved on.
01:23:50.000And then I looked over, it was flashing, recalibrating, getting its radio signal, I guess, from NORAD in Denver, where they send out this global radio signal that programs these clocks.
01:24:01.000And in talk radio we all use these when it's syndicated because it's all coordinated with satellites.
01:24:07.000And it started blinking and it was the 19th.
01:24:30.000And as a woman, I have felt the backlash towards women for a long time.
01:24:37.000And personally, I'm very offended when people bring up Britney Spears or Anna Cole Smith in a negative way because I'm a woman and I just would like to challenge other women out there to take that opportunity when people start dissing women, you know, anybody, any woman, to just, you know, inform people that That's the global elite scum that are purposely doing that to break up the family and to put women in a bad light.
01:25:39.000I just wanted to challenge other women out there to stand up and to take that opportunity to shed some light on the global elite that are covering up the real issues.
01:25:53.000It's so many women that are on the front lines fighting the New World Order, whether it's on the cancer vaccines or the live cancer viruses or 9-11.
01:26:02.000I mean, you name it, fighting for our sovereignty, it's just women.
01:26:06.000And more men need to stand up and watch a few less ball games and be real men and stand up for their country.
01:26:50.000You start to make connections between other things.
01:26:54.000Not only the political, but you get into I think it's some of the funny comedy routines like the time you talked about the people that enjoy football and they think that their wife is like a blow-up doll.
01:27:09.000Well, a few months back you were talking about that.
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01:36:04.000I've been mentioning I had some big thing I was developing and some delusionals locally thought it was something else, so I might as well just say what it is.
01:36:11.000No, I'm not worried about your microscopic pea shooters there in the fight against the New World Order.
01:36:32.000Don't get to see you in person that often like I'd like to, you and the crew, but it's good to have you on.
01:36:36.000You had a chance, obviously, to see the 9-11 conspiracies BBC primetime hit piece.
01:36:43.000I think you did a pretty darn good job.
01:36:45.000And you're here to give us your analysis on that before the creature himself, The hit piece captain of his crew joins us in the next hour from the bowels of the British broadcasting commissariat.
01:37:24.000I just want to give him equal time, so we'll give him like 2 minutes and each of you can have a minute or something like that.
01:37:30.000I mean I guess he did have four to one against us so we could have three to one on him but I just don't want I want to give him time to run but go ahead.
01:37:39.000Well you know basically there's a couple of blaring inaccuracies in their piece.
01:37:43.000The first one is that they make it seem like Uh, you know, hey, Dylan Avery feels that he has found the solution to where the people are.
01:37:50.000They take one piece of the movie and they say that I'm saying it's definitive.
01:37:53.000Uh, they act as if we never mentioned Delta 1989 and they even interview a passenger and show her ticket stub as if we're somehow denying that this woman took the flight.
01:38:04.000Not everybody out there is a grand poobah who, you know, has a master's degree in 9-11, who constantly studies it, eats, breathes, and sleeps it.
01:38:14.000Let's go back and explain this specifically.
01:38:18.000Well, to make a long story short, there's some research out there that was originally done by a man that goes by the nickname Woody Box.
01:38:25.000Uh, which basically details the fact that there were two very significantly different stories surrounding, uh, allegedly two planes that landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport on the morning of 9-11.
01:38:35.000One of them was originally reported to be Flight 93.
01:38:38.000And as the days went on, the details about that plane changed and changed and changed.
01:38:41.000But, I mean, if you look at it, there's two different stories.
01:38:44.000It's not like the story changed multiple times and times were changing constantly.
01:38:48.000There were two separate planes that were being mentioned.
01:38:50.000Now, again, we're not saying that this is proof of anything.
01:38:52.000It's, uh, you know, it's what we did in the second edition.
01:38:54.000We brought up Now I want to get into the biggest thing.
01:38:57.000we brought up the cell phone calls and the voice morgan because we had to provide some kind of an alternative explanation and that was obviously a bad idea and we acknowledge that but the simple fact is the BBC spun it as if we're saying that again somehow this woman never took the plane which is just simply not true now I want to get into the biggest thing in fact we have this clip I gave the network the time codes this morning I am them, but then I forgot which time code is which.
01:39:24.000Is it 30 minutes in, Dylan, where they get into claiming that the debris field was only a mile away, and then falsely claim that, without giving sources, that That it was 8 miles or 6.9 by road and that the debris field was only a mile and that was paper.
01:39:43.000When we have the Cincinnati papers, the Associated Press and others saying 8 miles and big pieces of wreckage 8 miles away.
01:39:53.000Sorry we got to discuss stuff here on air.
01:39:56.000John, is it 30 minutes in that's got the stuff about Flight 93?
01:40:04.000Yeah, let's play a few minutes of this because the big thing here is...
01:40:09.000He confronted me about this and I pulled out news articles because I knew he was going to want to cover this and I then took him to a computer and showed him like three more, so five mainstream articles with police, state police, others saying that debris was upwards of eight miles away and then they claim that we're basically lying and that it was only one mile away.
01:40:31.000They do that on a very tenuous basis but here's a clip from the film.
01:40:37.000The theory that President Bush would not blanch about killing thousands of innocent Americans in collateral damage to launch this war of global domination is entirely plausible to the conspiracy theorists.
01:41:37.000- Oh, he's down? - Yes, that's the last report.
01:41:40.000They don't know exactly where. - It's claimed that the plane was secretly shot down by the US Air Force.
01:41:46.000Reports of debris being found miles from the crash site here proves, it's argued, that the Boeing started to disintegrate in midair after being hit by a missile.
01:41:57.000United 93 is just another one of the blaring cases of where we know the government story is a fraud.
01:42:05.000When planes crash into the ground, they never leave more than a mile long Debris field and you see the luggage and the engines and there's a huge wound in the ground.
01:42:17.000The state police, the feds are on record reporting that there was an eight plus mile debris field with flight 93.
01:42:29.000Five years on, alone stars and stripes marked the spot where United 93 came down.
01:42:37.000And this is where it was reported that wreckage was found.
01:42:40.000There was talk of parts of a wing and an engine.
01:42:43.000If debris had been recovered here, it would provide strong evidence to support the conspiracy theory.
01:42:48.000Because, it's claimed, Indian Lake is nearly 7 miles from the crash site.
01:42:54.000Journalists and 9-11 investigators have come up with the distance by typing the two locations into search engines and used the result in their articles.
01:43:55.000Alright, and Dylan, you want to comment on this because we have the police saying big pieces of wreckage four and a half miles away, other reports saying papers eight miles away, and that's in the newspaper articles, but they don't want to talk about those, do they?
01:44:13.000Well, no, and the other thing they didn't want to talk about is New Baltimore, which, as far as I know, is actually 8 miles away, and singed paper from the crash was found there, among many other things.
01:44:23.000And again, we have the mainstream news articles on that saying that.
01:44:30.000Melanie Hankinson said she found singed papers and other light debris from the crash, including pages from Hemispheres Magazine, United In-Flight Magazine.
01:44:39.000Uh, so said authorities initially insisted crash debris could not have traveled over a mountain ridge more than eight miles from the crash.
01:44:46.000Um, so yeah, they, uh, there, you know, there's a lot of things they didn't mention in this piece, and, uh, New Baltimore was just one of them.
01:44:52.000But, now, they also then Have you saying, hey, they find engines, well, and then they show the hole and an engine in it.
01:45:02.000But the point is, that's all that's in the hole is an engine.
01:45:50.000They claim that not one, but two passports went out of their luggage, out of their clothes, out of the side of the fireball, out of the building, and were found unburned on the street.
01:46:02.000And then, when it turned out that one of the passports was to a wrong person still living in Saudi Arabia, and by the way, that was the BBC reporting that, They then retracted that and said we were wrong, we didn't find passports.
01:46:13.000I mean, how obvious is this planting of passports getting?
01:46:16.000It's like the 7-7 bombing, Dylan, where they planted one guy's ID card at two different bomb sites.
01:46:58.000Well yeah, you know, the whole Wally Miller thing is really interesting because people to this day, and obviously the BBC did it, accuse us of taking those quotes out of context.
01:47:07.000No, we didn't take anything out of context.
01:47:09.000We put the quotes up on the screen and read what he said.
01:47:23.000I mean, he's saying that, and we are quoting Wally Miller.
01:47:26.000And you read his whole quotes that he told the press!
01:47:30.000I mean, one time he told the press, oh, you know, it looked like there were no passengers on board.
01:47:33.000I mean, why is a coroner saying this at a plane crash?
01:47:36.000I mean, and he's like, well, you know... He says, it looks like there were no passengers, I saw no bodies, it was just a hole in the ground, and then now, he looks scared.
01:47:44.000He's saying, no, no, no, no, you misunderstand me.
01:47:47.000Well, yeah, he's like, oh, well, what I meant by I stopped being a coroner after 20 minutes is that it was obvious it was a funeral service.
01:47:53.000We're not disagreeing with you, Wally, we're simply bringing up the fact that you said multiple times to the public, and again, a year after the fact, that you saw no bodies there and didn't see a drop of blood.
01:48:04.000Not a single drop of blood in a plane crash.
01:48:07.000I mean, let's think about this, people.
01:48:09.000But you know, again, it's Wally Miller, so... Then there's a lady that claims she took the picture of the big puff of smoke and that's been looked at.
01:48:21.000Yeah, but hey Alex, the other point that I thought was interesting is that they brought on the writer from the X-Files, but they didn't bring on Dean Haglund, who was in the Lone Gunman pilot, who went public on your show and called 9-11 an inside job.
01:48:33.000They don't interview that guy for some reason.
01:48:35.000Well, I remember they said we're going to interview the producer, the writer of the X-Files.
01:48:42.000And I said, why don't you interview Dean Hagelin?
01:48:44.000Here's videotapes of him saying he believes it's an inside job that the CIA would approach them and plant storylines on them.
01:48:51.000In the piece, a hijacked jet by remote control to be flown to the World Trade Center, a passenger jet, and the government uses a drill to smokescreen that so that they're able to beat the defenses.
01:49:03.000In this piece, They go, oh, there was a routine drill that day, but it was no big deal.
01:49:09.000The government claims they'd never heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings, that they'd never run drills.
01:49:14.000Then the documents got released that they were running drills of hijacked jets being flown into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at the exact same time it was really happening.
01:49:22.000I mean, I tell you, folks, this is an incredibly shoddy hit piece.
01:49:31.000One more segment with you, then we're going to let you ride shotgun when we get Guy Smith from the bowels of the BBC from London, England, on air.
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01:52:50.000I want you to call Guy Smith in about three minutes.
01:53:08.000I want him for the full hour starting immediately when we start up the next hour in about six minutes.
01:53:16.000Bill and Avery will ride shotgun with us, so will Paul Watson, but I'm going to let them pop in with limited questions or comments because I've got a bunch of clips I want to play for Guy Smith and I want to go over things with him.
01:53:26.000Why do you interview Craig Bartmer, who we interviewed in New York, decorated police officer, who they said they were going to blow up Building 7 and get back?
01:54:24.000I mean, listen, Guy Smith and the rest of you, you're in trouble, okay?
01:54:28.000Because when 9-11 finally goes completely public, and it's going to now, you watch, boy, I tell you what, you're going to look pretty stupid.
01:55:49.000We never said that your brother, like, didn't get a specific warning.
01:55:52.000Dylan, I know you're busy with the final cut, but I may have to do this with my local TV show and then put it on the web, but take short clips of BBC.
01:56:00.000We can't get away with doing more, but we can do it for fair use to analyze it.
01:57:55.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:57:59.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000In the Encyclopedia Britannica 1999 edition, if you turn to yellow journalism, it details William Randolph Hearst helping organize and stage propaganda for the Spanish-American War, the enactment of the Federal Reserve, and many other globalist imperial programs.
01:58:25.000There's only one other media group in history Known for being more associated with the government and propaganda.
01:58:34.000George Orwell, of course, fashioning the character Winston off of himself in the Ministry of Truth, in a fictional nightmare future dystopia, fashioned the Ministry of Truth off of the BBC.
01:58:47.000We're black is white, up is down, left is right.
01:58:52.000And we are joined by Guy Smith, producer, Director who made the primetime Sunday program, 9-11 conspiracies for the BBC.
01:59:28.000And Chertoff's cousin, the Homeland Security Director, telling me it wasn't a hit piece, and then it was.
01:59:37.000I was talking about a previous hit piece.
01:59:40.000Guy, you told me over the phone that it wasn't a hit piece, but you also laughed and said you don't believe the stuff we've put out.
01:59:48.000I mean, can you honestly say that this isn't an attempt at debunking?
01:59:52.000Yeah, Alex, I really appreciate coming on your show, and I admire much of the work you do in talking about subjects that perhaps the mainstream media doesn't want to talk about.
02:00:03.000But we didn't set out to do a hit piece, as you call it.
02:00:07.000What we did is that we set out to investigate the evidence and to see where it led us.
02:00:12.000And if it turned out that some of the conspiracy theories were true, I would have gladly said that in the film.
02:00:18.000You know, we're not acting on behalf of any government agency or, you know, we're not part of some conspiracy... The BBC isn't government funded?
02:00:25.000Is it funded and controlled by Tim Downing Street?
02:00:34.000Which doesn't really operate, doesn't have any similarity to anything that operates in the States.
02:00:40.000But basically, people who have a television in Britain have to pay a tax.
02:00:43.000They pay that tax to the government and then the government hands it on to the BBC.
02:00:47.000And just two years ago they made the director of the BBC resign and apologizing for putting out pieces claiming that Blair knew about WMDs and other things.
02:00:56.000Now all totally admitted the BBC was right there.
02:01:00.000Well, I mean, that's a whole different story.
02:01:03.000But, you know, I can gladly talk about that if you like.
02:01:05.000But I guess the main thing is to talk about the program that we made last night and that you said the hit piece.
02:01:46.000Yeah, but Alex, you know that you carry a lot more weight than any debunkers, and when you come on air, you have a lot more impact than anybody who's an expert or anything like that.
02:01:57.000Very condescending and sarcastic and complete.
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02:06:33.000I mean, you interviewed me for like three hours at the Grassy Knoll, and you followed us around, and we're taping off and on during a five-hour event at night, and the next day you interviewed me, you videotaped the two-hour radio show, then you interviewed me about two hours after.
02:06:45.000I talked to you constantly on the phone for weeks before that, but let's not digress.
02:06:51.000My point is, are you denying that you had eleven debunkers and three 9-11 truthers in the film, and are you denying that they had a lot more time than we did?
02:07:51.000I'm not trying to force this down anybody's throat.
02:07:54.000I'm not trying to force anybody to accept what we're saying.
02:07:59.000I'm just saying, look, this is what we did.
02:08:01.000Why didn't you have, say, Kevin Ryan of Underwriting Laboratories, their own internal report said that 1,800 degree jet fuel couldn't melt steel that doesn't melt and it was molten.
02:08:17.000How does 1,800 degrees melt steel that non-structural raw steel doesn't start melting till 2,554 degrees structural hardened steel until 3,300 and those are numbers people can just pull up instantly on any engineering website.
02:08:35.000Why didn't you guys include that in your film?
02:08:38.000Well, the reality is that we had 59 minutes and, frankly, we could have spent all day talking about just the Twin Towers.
02:08:46.000We covered a lot of ground in the program, everything from the hijackers arriving in America before the attacks through to how the government tried to, the CIA and the FBI, tried to cover up their mistakes after the attacks.
02:08:59.000So, you know, we only have 59 minutes, just as now we only have this one hour for this program.
02:09:04.000There's not everything we can talk about.
02:09:06.000So we decided to concentrate on some things more than others.
02:09:09.000Now, clearly, one can make a whole hour just discussing the melting point of steel and exactly what happened to the Twin Towers.
02:09:15.000But I guess the bottom line with the Twin Towers is, are you saying that they were demolished?
02:09:21.000Now, if you were, then one has to look at why that happened and how that happened.
02:09:26.000And we looked into that and we came to the conclusion that the evidence just doesn't support that conspiracy theory.
02:09:51.000Firstly, I would like to say that I actually counted 13 debunkers compared to so-called conspiracy theorists, so it was an even greater number.
02:10:00.000And I would ask Mr. Smith, why, when we've had government officials, scientists, first responders, MI5 agents on this show talking about our side of the evidence.
02:10:11.000Did he decide to give ten minutes to a producer of a sci-fi show that went off the air five years ago?
02:10:29.000Basically, that it's a modern religion of delusionals.
02:10:34.000Now, in the Nova piece, It shows... Paul, you've measured it and timed it.
02:10:40.000Give him the exact seconds, and it comes out to about 55 seconds for the towers to fall, but in reality they fell in a little over 10 seconds, so even the NOVA piece is false, Paul.
02:10:52.000If you take the conservative estimate and say the towers fell in 14 to 16 seconds, what we've got is Mr. Smith, in the documentary near the beginning when he talks about controlled demolition, He uses a graphic animation from Nova, which is a PBS scientific documentary, which depicts the collapse of the Twin Towers at a rate of 6 floors per second, meaning that the total collapse of each tower would have taken around 66 seconds.
02:11:23.000So it's a patently false and misleading graphic to use, and My question is, you know, will there be a retraction of this graphic which is blatantly false and misleading and only lends to the bias that was already decided on in dismissing questions about controlled demolition?
02:11:46.000I don't know, you're talking about it coming from NOVA.
02:11:48.000It was actually made by the BBC, that graphic.
02:11:51.000Well, the point is, it was used on the NOVA program as well, I don't know.
02:11:55.000But the point is, if you're suggesting that the World Trade Center was demolished by explosives, then I would say, where is the cast iron evidence to back that up?
02:12:09.000Let me stop you, let me stop you then.
02:12:11.000Craig Bartmer, who was in the news, on record, giving citations, on the pile for five days, there when seven collapsed, has reported, and I've got now over 15 firefighters and police coming on in the next week.
02:12:24.000We're lining them all up for one show.
02:13:07.000Okay, now let's play the next clip, and just in case you've never seen these or heard these, and the videos are up on the website, here's CNN with two cops saying, get back, they're gonna bring it down, seven's coming down, they say it three times, here it is, CNN.
02:13:21.000- So we not only have that, and again, there's over 15 coming on the show, we've already had a bunch of them on.
02:13:40.000I've interviewed Barton Merfour video for an upcoming film in New York, he can barely breathe.
02:13:45.000Now, he tried to be interviewed by you, and you didn't want to talk to him, and he said that he was there, and they said, get back, they're going to bring the building down.
02:13:54.000Now, you just heard clips, I'm asking you, why didn't you want to talk to a police officer?
02:13:59.000Well, um, I don't know about that particular police officer, um, but... But you met him!
02:14:17.000Well, look, we could spend all day talking about whether there was molten steel or whether it was something else in the basement of the World Trade Center.
02:14:25.000But what you have to do is to look at the bottom line theory.
02:14:28.000Now, if you're saying those Twin Towers were demolished, I have yet to understand why they were demolished.
02:14:53.000The CIA, the FBI, Defense Intelligence, it was a giant intelligence building.
02:14:59.000It had the command center FEMA claimed they were there the night before, then they tried to retract, and Giuliani, in congressional testimony, admitted they were running Tripod 2, a drill of an attack on the complex, so they'd already moved out the night before to the end of the pier.
02:15:13.000But is it really plausible, do you think, that World Trade Center 7 would have been demolished, and five years later, Nobody who is involved in planting those demolition charges wouldn't have spoken to their wife or girlfriend or come forward and admitted that they were part of that.
02:15:34.000How did they have Tuskegee for 40 plus years?
02:15:37.000Killing black men with syphilis secret, the atomic soldiers, the ringworm children in Israel where they radiated 110,000, the Manhattan Project kept secret with over 100,000 people involved.
02:15:49.000The people who were involved in that and black ops know they'd be killed the minute they went public.
02:15:54.000Well, I mean, yeah, you talk about the Manhattan Project, and that's a very interesting example, but it's something that's quite different, because here, remember, 3,000 American citizens died, or American and citizens from other countries as well, including Britain.
02:16:08.000So, you know, it's like, you seem to think that we're trying to cover something up.
02:16:14.000You know, we're not covering anything up.
02:16:16.000All we're doing is looking at the evidence in an objective, dispassionate way, and trying to test whether it stands up to determination.
02:16:24.000No modern steel building, and you can show some two-story thing in England or some two-story thing that's tar-roofed in Chicago, no modern steel building has ever fallen.
02:16:34.000Look at the Madrid, 100-foot white-hot flames, almost two days burning, no major steel members collapsed.
02:17:35.000I'd like to hear how you don't believe it and walk through things with Dylan Avery and Paul Joseph Watson on the other side.
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02:22:40.000Trillions in oil, billions in opium, control, military contracts, domestic police state, just like Hitler burned his own Reichstag.
02:22:48.000You told me, no, Northwoods isn't going in here, it doesn't fit into it, it doesn't matter.
02:22:54.000Now tell me why, if you made a film about the 9-11 Truth Movement, why you wouldn't cover the central issues of the history of government-sponsored terror and the history of plans to carry out terror against the American people.
02:23:20.000That links Operation Northwood to what happened on 9-11.
02:23:24.000There's no doubt that the American government and other governments, no doubt the British government as well, has been involved in all sorts of operations in the past.
02:23:33.000False flag operations, as you call it.
02:23:37.000I mean, as you mentioned, the Gulf of Tonkin is a very interesting example.
02:23:43.000But I have no evidence And I have yet to see any convincing theories that show that what happened with the proposal of Operation Northwoods was put into practice on 9-11.
02:23:56.000Well, this is why it's important, Guy.
02:24:01.000Let's say a six-foot-two, gray-haired man with a red birthmark on his left cheek is videotaped robbing a bank and pistol-whipping a clerk.
02:24:13.000And then the police run through a database of mug books and they notice that a bank robber, who fits that description, got out of prison six months ago and lives in the area.
02:24:22.000And they go by his house and they pull him over when he leaves and he's got the cash in the trunk.
02:24:27.000If you've got people that have done this before and plan to do this, my goodness, I think that's pretty darn important!
02:25:00.000I don't know, to be honest, because I haven't investigated the Canadian fascination.
02:25:04.000Well, the debunkers are losing because 92% of Americans in major polls know the truth now, Guy.
02:25:09.000Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know about JFK, to be honest, but what I do know is that I haven't seen any evidence that links Operation Northwoods to what happened at 9/11.
02:25:20.000There's no doubt, as I said before, that there are lots of operations that have happened in the past that have been carried out by the American government and other governments that are very unsavory.
02:25:29.000But that doesn't mean to say that 9/11 was one of those operations, because I haven't seen the evidence If you show me the evidence, then I'll believe it.
02:25:36.000It shows that they've planned this before and they've carried out operations before.
02:25:40.000What it shows is that 40 years ago there were people who thought that things like this could be done and should be done.
02:25:47.000And then in 64, it was done with Tonkin.
02:25:50.000And in 67, it was done with the Liberty.
02:25:53.000And similar things, Operation Gladio in Europe.
02:25:58.000It doesn't prove that the present occupants of the White House, and I'm not defending them anyway, I'm just saying I haven't seen the evidence.
02:26:04.000Why were British SAS members last year dressed up like Arabs driving around shooting people with plastic explosives?
02:26:10.000Well, let's just keep on Operation Northwoods.
02:26:13.000All I'm saying is that just because there was this plan 40 years ago, it doesn't prove that the current occupants of the White House dusted it off and put it into practice in 2008.
02:26:24.000Even though PNAC said we need a helpful Pearl Harbor event and Brzezinski said we needed a Pearl Harbor event.
02:26:31.000By the way, Brzezinski said two weeks ago in congressional testimony that there may be a false flag attack blamed on Iran in this country.
02:26:39.000Well, I think the PNAC report didn't say we should have a Pearl Harbor event.
02:26:43.000It said it would help, minus that catalyzing event.
02:26:47.000And then Brzezinski said it would help.
02:26:50.000I don't think it says, actually, it would help.
02:26:52.000I think what it says is that it wouldn't happen unless there was a Pearl Harbor... Gee, we want to invade these countries.
02:27:00.000We need to use this disaster for a new world order.
02:27:02.000Well, I mean, I hear what you're saying.
02:27:05.000I guess people who disagree with what you're saying would say, If it really was then a plot, why would the PNAC report writers publish their report in advance and put it all over the internet?
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02:30:42.000In 1814, we took a little trip along with Colonel Jackson down to mighty Mississippi.
02:30:58.000We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans.
02:31:04.000We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'.
02:31:06.000There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.
02:31:09.000We fired once more and they'd forget to run it on down to Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
02:31:17.000We looked down the river and we see the British come And there must have been a hundred of them beatin' on the drum They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring We stood beside our cotton fields and didn't say a thing We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin' There wasn't as many as there was a while ago We fired once more and they began to runnin' On down to Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico Take 'em by surprise If we didn't fire muskies 'til we looked 'em in the eye
02:31:47.000We held our fire 'til we seen their faces well Then we opened up my squirrel guns And really gave 'em well We fired our guns and the British kept coming There wasn't nice lady as there was a follicle We fired once more and they began to run it Go down to Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico Welcome back!
02:32:05.000Yeah, they're empty with the priors Our guest is Guy Smith, BBC producer, director We appreciate him coming on and letting us go over the piece that he put out.
02:32:18.000And now I'd like to give Dylan Avery a chance to ask a few questions and then of course Guy can ask questions of him or make statements if he'd like and then Paul Watson to come back in.
02:32:28.000Dylan Avery, producer of Loose Change 1 and 2.
02:32:31.000That, by the way, we carry at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, where you can watch for free at Google Video, as well as my film, Terror Storm.
02:32:41.000Dylan, do you have any questions or comments for him?
02:32:44.000Yeah, my first one is, how can I drop out of something I never attended?
02:32:50.000Well, your narrator referred to me as a self-professed dropout, indicating that I actually went to college and stopped attending.
02:32:57.000When in reality, I applied for Purchase College twice, and because the film program there is entirely selective, I was not selected.
02:33:04.000So in all of your research, I found it interesting that you couldn't even get the facts about me right.
02:33:09.000And of course, that's been one of the rumors is that you're this evil dropout.
02:33:12.000I mean, you know, so is Bill Gates and Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney for that matter.
02:33:16.000But the point is, is that you'd mentioned earlier you thought that would be in the piece.
02:33:20.000Yeah, guy, you talk about he's a self-professed dropout, but you don't have video of Dylan saying he's a dropout because he never went to college.
02:33:28.000Yeah, I know Dylan didn't go to college.
02:33:29.000I guess the way we use the term dropout in English, I don't know about American, is somebody who doesn't go the conventional route.
02:33:38.000It doesn't mean literally that you dropped out of college because I know that you... Let me bring Paul Watson up.
02:34:08.000Okay, well, listen, I am a college dropout, even though I had a 3.8 grade average because I didn't need it.
02:34:14.000Now, Steve Watson that works in our research department has a master's degree in political science and foreign affairs, so he thinks it's an inside job too, but he has a master's degree, is it okay now?
02:34:25.000No, I'm not trying to dissuade anybody from believing it's an inside job.
02:34:31.000If you want to believe it's an inside job, that's fine, that's up to you, and I fully accept that you have a right to think that all i can say is that we investigated the story we looked into it we didn't find the evidence that supports that theory and and and that that's all you know uh there's nothing more to it than that well you know what maybe paul uh in in in sheffield it means different so maybe somebody from london born and bred london call in 1-800-259-9231
02:35:01.000Let us know, does drop out mean never went to college?
02:35:04.000Because in my book that's not what it means and Paul says you're incorrect.
02:35:07.000Come on guy, we know it's a snipet, Dylan Avery, you know, like he's some gutter snipe miscreant out there rubbing his oily hands together and attacking the beautiful crown's operation.
02:35:21.000We interviewed Dylan for the film and we showed how his film has had enormous impact and has been viewed tens of millions of times all around the world.
02:35:29.000And we were trying to make a serious point.
02:35:31.000We were showing how Now, conspiracy theories can proliferate through the internet in a way that they couldn't have done in the past.
02:35:38.000Do you think there should be some type of regulation to stop this type of hateful spread?
02:36:04.000My first one is, you know, Guy, your narrator makes a lot of jabs about how we're disrespecting the family members and how we're going to continue to ask questions no matter how much it displeases the victims.
02:36:15.000Have you ever heard of the Jersey Girls?
02:36:22.000The list of names... The head of the biggest victims family group who lost his son in the attacks said that he believes it's an inside job.
02:36:32.000We have the transcript and the audio on PrisonPlanet.com.
02:37:20.000Well, I think the passports, as I understand it, were found by passers-by and handed in to the FBI.
02:37:27.000Oh my gosh, just like all the confession letters.
02:37:30.000Hey, I tried to get you to talk about how the Dean of the Defense Language School said three of the hijackers trained in a secret program in 2000 in Monterey, California.
02:37:39.000I tried to get you to cover Newsweek, where hijackers were reportedly trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station.
02:37:44.000I tried to get you to interview Mr. Springman, the former head of the U.S.
02:37:47.000Embassy, who was told to let them into the U.S.
02:37:49.000They're really anti-terror fighters, and that their terror designation is a cover.
02:37:54.000Guy, why didn't that make it in the film?
02:37:56.000Well, there are over 50 different conspiracy theories around 9-11.
02:38:12.000What's the bottom line that you're trying to say, Alex?
02:38:15.000Are you saying that we're part of this conspiracy?
02:38:18.000Well, I'm saying that just like people in Russia or Germany or China couldn't believe the government had gone bad, and then later they had to admit it, I think that you have a preconceived notion, a preconceived view,
02:38:33.000And I'm saying you disregarded most of the key evidence like 44,000 US troops and 18,000 British troops massed in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan in the four months before 9-11 and Newsweek and Associated Press reporting that Bush the day before the attacks had the launch orders to attack Afghanistan on his desk.
02:38:52.000I mean, it's very difficult to answer them, some of these points, because what you're doing is you're quoting things that you claim that you've heard, and there's some things that are on the internet and... No, they're mainstream... Okay, let me stop you right there.
02:39:05.000What about the two FBI agents that went to prison for insider trading before 9-11?
02:39:13.000I don't know the details of that particular story, but I do know that there are a lot of stories that are circulating on the internet that are not based on fact.
02:39:29.000Do you know where the story of the Israelis not being in the building came from?
02:39:31.000It came from Harots and the Jerusalem Post, because Odigo instant messaging head said, yes, we got a call that something was going to happen, get our people out of the building, and most 9-11 researchers say that Israel clearly wasn't running the attacks.
02:39:46.000May have been in some small support role because MI6, Mossad, Chinmet, CIA are all joined at the hip.
02:39:51.000That's a real report that indeed there were warnings.
02:39:55.000The Arabs weren't in the buildings either because they had warnings and there were locals doing insider trading.
02:40:11.000Are you denying that Odigo's head was in the newspapers in Israel saying they got a warning?
02:40:15.000Clearly showing they weren't involved because they were public, going, yeah, we got warnings.
02:40:19.000I think what you have done here, Alex, is you've raised a very interesting and important point, and that is that much of what is on the internet about 9-11 is based on news reports.
02:40:29.000Now, those news reports are not necessarily always accurate.
02:40:33.000What happens, as we've seen with the conspiracy theory alleging that 4,000 Jews didn't turn up for work that day, is that the story gets into the media and then it gets twisted and distorted, like we call in England, Chinese whispers, and it just continues and proliferates and becomes more and more complicated.
02:40:51.000And what we tried to do in our research was to go back to primary sources, to eyewitnesses.
02:41:35.000How can Mr. Smith justify using this strong implication on numerous occasions throughout the documentary that questioning the official story of 9-11 is insulting and hurtful to the victims?
02:41:47.000How can he justify such a blatant and cynical attempt to emotionally sway the viewer when we've had Bill Doyle on the program, who is the largest representative, the largest group of 9-11 families, and it was a government cover-up in itself in the very hours after 9-11 The result of which, now we have a situation where 20% of the first responders are dying from that government cover-up.
02:42:09.000And by the way, major medical institutions admit their lungs are full of asbestos and concrete, and we have the internal EPA documents where they were ordered to shut it down and cover it up.
02:42:20.000That's been in all the major US newspapers, and we were called conspiracy theorists on that.
02:42:26.000The truth is, every time the government does something wrong, they just say we're conspiracy theorists.
02:42:56.000Well, I didn't imply it was all of them.
02:42:57.000We said that we had talked to many relatives who... You did imply he's a dropout, you did imply it was all of them, you had some psychological test on there where basically you're a bunch of shut-in nuts and it's a religion, and you had some fiction writer get up there from the Lone Gunman and the X-Files for the show, the producer, and basically say that it's a religion that we have.
02:43:20.000No sir, Steel doesn't melt until over 2700 degrees, and there were people in the wounds of those buildings, waving, begging for help, and then giant columns severed right next to them, and then there was molten steel.
02:43:33.000Well, I mean, again, I come back to the fundamental point.
02:43:39.000You're saying that it was an inside job carried out by the American government to start a war for oil in the Middle East and in Asia.
02:43:47.000And, you know, I hear that view, and I accept that there are many people who believe that view.
02:43:53.000All I can say is that having looked at the story, having researched the story, having talked to many eyewitnesses, Those are buzzwords.
02:44:01.000We don't come to the same conclusion in our program.
02:44:04.000Hey, I've played eyewitnesses saying, get back, they're going to blow up the building.
02:44:06.000And I've got a bunch of other clips I can play.
02:44:09.000I give the actual witnesses, I give names, we sent you police officers, we sent you people, and you didn't interview them, and you make these large, broad-brush statements about how you've disproven what we've said, and it isn't true.
02:44:22.000Does Mr. Smith admit that there was a bias in editing before the editing of his program, and that he had already come to the conclusion Uh, that he chose to support the side of the debunkers.
02:44:41.000You're held to a higher standard as a BBC journalist to produce the Balance Programme, and you've already come to a bias before you've even finished the filming.
02:44:52.000We went into this project with an open mind, and let's face it, if supposing during our research we had found that some of these conspiracy theories were true, We would have certainly put that into the film, because actually, it would have made a much more dramatic and sensational film.
02:45:07.000We'd be all over the front page of the newspapers this morning.
02:45:10.000Yeah, and then Blair wouldn't take a bunch of your funding again and make your director resign.
02:45:18.000Everybody knows they've been censoring the BBC!
02:45:23.000Hell, in your country, they arrested Robin Page for saying that rural communities deserve rights!
02:45:29.000I can absolutely give you an assurance that nobody is trying to censor what we were saying in this program.
02:45:35.000And if we had found through our objective research some evidence to back up the theory that World Trade Center 7 was demolished or United 93 didn't crash at Shanksville, then we would have put that into the program.
02:45:49.000Mr. Smith, your conclusions were not based on the evidence.
02:45:52.000They were based on portraying Dylan Avery and Alex Jones as a kind of religious cult.
02:45:56.000You called Alex an evangelical preacher, basically.
02:45:59.000And then you cut to the X-Files guy saying we're a religion.
02:46:05.000He was talking about why people believe in conspiracy theories nowadays, and I think he made a very valid point about how, in the past, We found it difficult to understand what was going on in our world, so we created myths, and now what we're doing is much the same sort of thing.
02:46:41.000I hear what you're saying, and there are many people who will agree with you, but some of the people who oppose what you're saying and who disagree with what you're saying may ask this question, and that is, why is it that nobody in the five years since 9-11 who is involved in that conspiracy has come forward to admit their part in it?
02:47:01.000Because it would only take a few hundred people to run the op.
02:47:04.000Many people that were involved, I believe they were involved in a simulation.
02:47:38.000They covered up, until they wanted to, 5,000 dead U.S.
02:47:43.000troops, just like the Russians covered up their true losses in Afghanistan.
02:47:47.000So don't tell me for a minute they can't keep black ops secret.
02:47:51.000I am absolutely convinced that if there was a Black Ops, as you say, on 9-11, it first of all would have involved not just hundreds but thousands of people.
02:48:01.000And I'm quite sure that that Black Ops would have leaked by now.
02:48:05.000That people, you know, tell their wives, they tell their girlfriends, they tell their priests they feel guilty about what they've done.
02:48:12.000This was a black ops operation, if what you say is true, that was against the American people.
02:48:18.000I'm absolutely certain that that story would have leaked out by now.
02:48:32.000And people like Sybil Edmonds who want to talk have been gagged.
02:48:35.000And FBI agent Robert Wright has been told he'll be arrested if he tells people what he knows.
02:48:40.000All he said is the Bushes vacation with the Bin Ladens.
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02:53:22.000Paul, quickly fire your final questions at his lordship.
02:53:25.000Well, in a sense, Mr. Smith tags us with the label of conspiracy theories when he supports the official conspiracy theory.
02:53:34.000And in doing so, he uses a sole clip of a firefighter on 9-11 discussing damage to Building 7's sprinkler system, while omitting literally dozens and dozens of reports, both footage and from the official firefighter tapes.
02:53:50.000who reported bombs at all levels of the Twin Towers and Building 7, and that is not part of his documentary, which suggests clear bias, because he's using individual clips.
02:54:02.000Yeah, he keeps saying, show evidence, we show it, and then he ignores it.
02:54:08.000The evidence that we presented in the program is the evidence that we believe to be credible.
02:54:13.000There are many stories that World Trade Center 7 was demolished by explosives.
02:54:18.000I have yet to see any credible evidence that stands that theory up.
02:54:22.000Just as I have yet to see any... So the fact that it's supporting bombs is not credible?
02:54:38.000Well, it's interesting because as well as hearing from the likes of you, I've also had many emails and calls from people who are saying that we're giving too much air time to the conspiracy theories.
02:54:49.000So I guess, you know, it's like one can't please everyone all the time.
02:54:53.000No, no, we understand and I appreciate you at least coming on this show.
02:54:57.000Real fast, Bill, and every final question.
02:55:00.000Yeah, you know, throughout the documentary and throughout this interview, Guy talks a lot about following the evidence and how he feels that he covered the 9-11 truth movement, when in reality, as you mentioned, Alex, there was a glaring omission from this BBC documentary that any objective documentary would have covered.
02:55:15.000Although he lauded the fact that two of the hijackers live with a tested FBI informant, he refused to ask Senator Bob Graham why, on the morning of 9-11, he was meeting with George Tenet of the CIA and the head of the Pakistani ISI, who had wired Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker, $100,000 right before the attacks.
02:55:33.000Yeah, the role of the Pakistani ISI is a fascinating story, and that's actually something that we could well be returning to in another program.
02:55:41.000We might be making a whole program about that connection between Pakistan and the hijackers.
02:55:47.000Getting another bucket of white paint out for that, huh?
02:55:50.000I'd say watch this space, because that is a very interesting story.
02:55:53.000Guy Smith, I appreciate you spending time with us, and I hope to get you back up in the future in the next few months as this develops.