Ron Paul is running for President of the United States in 2016, and he has a lot of support in the conservative wing of the Republican Party. In this episode, Ron Paul is joined by Alex Jones to discuss his campaign and what he would do if he was elected president.
00:00:32.000If this broadcast is any gauge of the American people's mindset, the Freedom Movement, those of us that want constitutional government and national sovereignty and liberty and free market, is beginning to turn the tide.
00:00:45.000The worm is turning on a host of issues.
00:00:49.000And really, our standard-bearer, if any one person could be said to be the leader of people in the United States who wish to go back to constitutional government and move forward, it is Congressman Ron Paul, who is running for president.
00:01:04.000And he's getting a lot of support and he's going to be with us for the next 59 minutes, a full hour.
00:01:10.000We're going to talk until the bottom of the hour about his policies, his ideas, what he would do if he was president, and how you can support him and get involved.
00:01:20.000In this historical election season that's coming up with this candidate who is founding Father Material.
00:01:59.000Well, I know that Congress is out for a few weeks, and you're taking care of the campaign and trying to visit your family.
00:02:06.000And again, you join us from, I guess, your home in Texas.
00:02:11.000Tell us, sir, basically what the number one issue facing the United States is right now.
00:02:16.000Probably it's a threat to individual liberty because our government is growing endlessly.
00:02:22.000By leaps and bounds, nobody seems to want to put a hold on it.
00:02:26.000And every time government grows, it's at the expense of personal liberty.
00:02:30.000And then you can go into the many, many details of which is the worst issue.
00:02:34.000Is it the IRS or the Federal Reserve System or the foreign policy or our immigration policy?
00:02:40.000I mean, there are so many other problems.
00:02:43.000I think the debt overhang is horrendous.
00:02:46.000This entitlement commitment is a financial burden that's going to hit us here.
00:02:51.000In the near future, that's going to be very devastating to us, and we're not very prepared for it.
00:02:56.000But I think the overriding issue is the issue of individual liberty, which is what made America great, which is what the revolution was fought about, and which the Constitution tried to desperately enshrine and preserve for us.
00:03:11.000But we're at a crisis point now because we have been so neglectful of protecting those liberties, and we're going to suffer the consequences if we don't straighten it out.
00:03:22.000Can you speak to what some of those consequences are going to be?
00:03:26.000Well, economically, the consequences will be that there's going to be a wholesale rejection of the dollar, because the world has trusted the dollar ever since, especially since the breakdown of the Bretton Woods in 1971, when the linkage of the dollar to the gold was broken.
00:03:45.000They still trusted the dollar as if it were gold.
00:03:48.000And therefore, we can print the money, and we can spend the money, and the foreign countries take our money, then they loan it back to us, so they're getting a bum rap.
00:03:56.000We actually get a temporary good deal, but what it does is it encourages us not to be productive.
00:04:03.000It encourages us not to have manufacturing any longer.
00:04:07.000We can let others do it cheaper, cheap labor, and then we buy it with cheap money, and that's going to come to an end.
00:04:14.000And then when that happens, and even today the dollar was down sharply and gold was up sharply, which is indicating that's the movement that we're in.
00:04:22.000And that means later on, there's going to be a lot of changes here.
00:04:28.000Domestically, the interest rates are going to rise, the inflation rate, the prices of all goods and services, that will rise, and the economy will weaken.
00:04:37.000So we have some very serious problems ahead.
00:04:40.000I want to continue getting your analysis, Congressman, on this obvious issue of prime importance, the economy, the debt, the subprime, loans, all of it.
00:04:51.000When you think we're going to see it start unraveling on the other side, then we'll go through the gamut of issues and talk about your campaign.
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00:08:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:18.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:08:23.000He really is founding father material.
00:08:33.000I know this interview will have its own life on the internet, so for new listeners, you can visit Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com and read his bio.
00:08:42.000We have banners up there that link over to his presidential run website.
00:08:53.000Congressman, it's probably best to really start the interview officially for this full hour we've got with you with Ron Paul in his own words, who you are, what your awakening was like, what formed your ideals, and why you're running for the presidency.
00:09:08.000And then I want to run through the economy.
00:09:10.000The war, open borders, the North American Union, and some of the things that you and most Americans who are informed think are most important.
00:09:17.000And then your strategies, if elected president, of what you would do to fight that.
00:09:22.000But first off, in a nutshell, who is Congressman, doctor, father, grandfather, Ron Paul?
00:09:29.000I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and my goal was to become a physician, which I was able to achieve.
00:09:37.000But as I was finishing medical school and getting into my training, I became fascinated with also reading about economic policy.
00:09:44.000I came across Hayek's book, The Road to Serfdom, and he represented the Austrian School of Economics.
00:09:50.000And that fascinated me because I believe they were on the right track in explaining why you had to have sound money, why you didn't need a central bank, and why you didn't need government to regulate the economy, and central economic planning always failed, and years and years ago they predicted that communism couldn't work and socialism always fails.
00:10:08.000So that fascinated me, and when the Bretton Woods system of money that was started right after World War II broke down in 1971, I thought, I need to talk about this because it fascinated me.
00:10:21.000And I was busy in a medical practice, but I just sort of on a lark ran for a congressional seat in the early 70s.
00:10:28.000And though I didn't win the first time, the second go-around I did and I won a congressional seat in 1976.
00:10:33.000But I've been back and forth in politics and medicine.
00:10:37.000I've delivered about 4,000 babies and I'm still fascinated with medicine, but right now I'm 100% involved in this political activity, maintaining my congressional seat as well as running for the nomination in the Republican primary for the presidency.
00:10:55.000So the issue that drove me the most to run probably was the economic issues, the fascination with how the monetary policy in the Federal Reserve was so damaging to our economy, and yet over the years,
00:11:11.000That interest in economic policy also transferred an interest into foreign policy because I saw the connection that our efforts to police the world and spend money and maintain an empire was dangerous, hurt our national security, was very damaging to our financial health, and it was connected in that if you have
00:11:36.000If you have military spending out of control as well as domestic entitlement spending out of control, the only way you can maintain it is through a central bank that creates money out of thin air, and they all came together.
00:11:48.000So I work very hard on foreign policy as well as monetary and economic policy, and serve on the banking committee, which is the financial services committee, as well as the joint economic committee, and also foreign affairs.
00:12:03.000If you were elected President, what would be the first actions that you would take?
00:12:10.000You know, there are so many things that can and should be done.
00:12:14.000There's a limit to what you can do without, you know, trying to follow best you can the rules, and that is getting Congress to go along.
00:12:30.000I would start talking to all our allies, tell them what the plans were, and start coming home.
00:12:37.000And we are now spending close to a trillion dollars maintaining our foreign policy.
00:12:42.000And it's a lot bigger than most people realize, but if you add up the DOD, the supplementals, the interest on the money we spend in taking care of our veterans, and by the way, sometimes very poorly.
00:12:53.000It's also a foreign policy that has taken us from the most loved to the most hated.
00:12:59.000You know, they accuse us, who believe in the Constitution, in minding our own business, yet trading with people they call us isolationists.
00:13:42.000We have behind the scenes the plan for a North American Union.
00:13:46.000And, you know, that's the part that the American people are starting to wake up to, although we have a long way to go to wake up Washington.
00:13:54.000It's amazing to me how many people outside of Washington are very much aware of some of these plans with this North American Union.
00:14:02.000At the same time, they're in total denial in Washington, except for the few who, behind the scenes, are laying the plans and providing the finances.
00:14:10.000Congressman, let's... I've got a whole gamut of questions I want to walk through with you.
00:14:15.000We're honored you're spending a full hour with us today.
00:14:17.000Our calls are coming up in 15 minutes, folks.
00:14:19.000But let's just right now, because I'm getting calls every day, emails every hour, calls every... I mean, it's wild the amount of support you've got, because we're being inundated.
00:15:37.000But we can work very hard in New Hampshire, very hard in Iowa.
00:15:40.000I will be leaving Within an hour or so after we finish this program, I'll be leaving for Iowa and I'll spend three days there.
00:15:47.000And that's my first trip there and we'll probably get a pretty good feel for how things are going and how the grassroots are responding in that state.
00:17:14.000Well, right now, and I'm not a wealthy person, I'm going to give $1,000.
00:17:17.000And the reason I'm doing this is I don't want to hear this talk of he can't win, they're too big, the election machines, it's a fraud.
00:17:25.000Regardless, we've got a chance here with somebody who's got a perfect voting record, who has tried to abolish the Federal Reserve, who stands up to the Fed Chairman when he comes into the Banking Committee.
00:17:34.000We're going to play a clip later in the hour.
00:17:35.000We've got somebody who will bring the troops home, not like these fake Democrats who put on smoke-and-mirror, dog-and-pony, carnival-barking shows.
00:17:42.000We've got somebody who is dead-on on every single issue and who is popular in every single group.
00:17:49.000The liberals, the conservatives, the libertarians, the constitutionalists.
00:17:53.000We've got to get behind Congress from Ron Paul.
00:18:55.000Wherever the Congressman's going, you watch his website, where he's going to be, and if you live in that area, you come out and support him.
00:19:25.000I'm here to tell you, ladies and gentlemen, people are anti-New World Order, they're pro-Constitution, and Ron Paul needs to be the next President of the United States!
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00:23:59.000I've been watching politics since I was a little bitty kid.
00:24:16.000Checking out the There's stuff going on with Watergate, and I've been doing talk radio for quite a while and covering this, so I know a little bit about politics, and I've talked to a lot of experts and strategists and people in both parties, and believe me, they're scared of Congressman Ron Paul.
00:24:34.000He's got a real chance to win, because you don't have election fraud machines in place everywhere.
00:24:42.000They want a true populist with constitutional principles.
00:24:45.000Congressman, you wanted to add one more point about the campaign, and then we would get into the questions.
00:24:49.000Right, you emphasize the need for money and that certainly is the case.
00:24:53.000But you know there are other things that can help a candidate like myself and that is the internet.
00:24:58.000The internet already has been very helpful and I think it's going to be more helpful as time goes on and that's something that is becoming more so every day.
00:25:06.000You know 10, 15 years ago it wasn't even significant.
00:25:10.000The other thing is that radio talk shows like what you have, they're very important.
00:25:16.000Almost every place I go somebody will come up to me and ask, ìHow did you get involved in this?î And it's through your show.
00:25:22.000So there's a lot of people who have joined our campaign and who have already started to show up at our events because of your encouragement.
00:25:29.000And the other point is, though we'll not match those individuals who are bought and paid for by the special interest where they can raise $100 million because they want access for their contracts, they waste a lot of that money.
00:25:43.000I mean, they have their private jets, and they pay huge salaries, and they spend a lot of money on advertisement.
00:25:50.000And it really is not as important today to run a campaign that way as it used to be in the past.
00:25:59.000So, there's a lot of other reasons for us to be hopeful that this thing will take off and that we'll do much, much better than anybody ever dreamed we would.
00:26:08.000In fact, when you decided to run, you said you were, you know, testing the waters in your exploratory committee.
00:26:13.000And then you said, if memory serves, that it was a bigger response than you were even hoping for.
00:26:18.000Yeah, it wasn't a surprise to me, you know.
00:26:22.000I'm usually the skeptical one because I don't want to overstate a position and not only disappoint my supporters but I don't want to fool myself either.
00:26:34.000I'm rather conservative in my estimates but each day we go on I'm feeling better about it.
00:26:42.000I mean, you know this better than I do.
00:26:44.000You've lived longer, and you've seen a lot more than I have, but I've learned this in life.
00:26:48.000If you don't get in the game, you have no chance of winning.
00:26:50.000And you're in the game, you're suited up, and you've got the tools, and you're the man for the job, and so we've got to support you.
00:27:27.000They talk about putting people in prison today without habeas corpus.
00:27:32.000Congressman, I've had probably four or five national TV hosts and radio hosts call for my imprisonment, call us all traitors if we question the war.
00:27:46.000If we don't preserve our fundamental Freedom, we can't fight back.
00:27:50.000People say, well, you know, what you're saying is that the country's like it's bankrupt.
00:27:55.000And, you know, in many ways, that's the case.
00:27:58.000But I'm convinced that one thing, you know, we could all be poor tomorrow, very, very poor and start from scratch.
00:28:03.000But if we have our freedoms and we have our sound currency and we have the government off our back, this country would rebound so quickly and we would regain the jobs.
00:28:13.000You know, we would have our manufacturing base back.
00:28:17.000I am absolutely positive on how freedom works, and I don't worry about us getting poor, even if it's just temporary, because I believe we would be very productive once again.
00:28:27.000Congressman Ron Paul, that is one of the questions I had for you, because I make the observation That the Federal Reserve debt that we have, most of it is based in fraud and you and others have a plan to basically discharge that during the depression that they would engineer to further consolidate control as they've done in 1933 and in other cases globally with the IMF and World Bank documents that came out via Joseph Stiglitz, their chief economist.
00:28:52.000And so if the people are aware of who is behind this financial implosion, this may be what catapults the Constitutionalists, you know, back into control of the nation to turn loose the people.
00:29:03.000And so it's one thing for them to claim ownership of us, it's another thing for them to actually execute that ownership.
00:29:09.000Right, and the laws of economics are much more powerful than the laws of government.
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00:29:30.000And yet, eventually, the laws of economics broke that down.
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00:33:32.000You know, we've got a five-minute clip, and we're not going to play very much of it, but about two minutes into it, this is a few weeks ago, and then he did it a few months before that, Congressman Ron Paul confronting the new Fed Chairman on the fact that the Federal Reserve is completely non-transparent and secretive.
00:33:51.000In fact, John, I forgot to ask you, do you have that queued up to about two minutes in?
00:33:55.000Let's go ahead and roll about 30 seconds of that, and we'll go back to the Congressman and get his response to it.
00:33:59.000With other central banks, we get less and less information regarding the money supply each year, especially now that we don't even have access to M3 statistics.
00:34:10.000The role the Fed plays in the President's secretive working group on financial markets goes essentially unnoticed by Congress.
00:34:18.000The Federal Reserve shows no willingness to inform Congress voluntarily about how often the working group meets, what action it takes that affects the financial markets, or why it takes these actions.
00:34:29.000But all these actions directed by the Federal Reserve alter the purchasing power of our money.
00:34:36.000And that purchasing power is always reduced.
00:34:38.000The dollar today is worth only four cents compared to the dollar that the Federal Reserve started with in 1913.
00:34:44.000This has significant consequences on our economy and our political stability.
00:34:51.000All paper currencies are vulnerable to collapse, and history is replete with examples of great suffering caused by these collapses, especially to the nation's poor and the middle class.
00:35:02.000This can lead to political... Now, rather than continuing the whole clip, Congressman, can you give us your take on Bernanke's response?
00:35:09.000And, you know, you talk about four cents.
00:35:11.000That number that I've got is from a couple years ago, before they really made the money supply secretive.
00:35:17.000And a lot of the experts I've talked to say it could be devalued down to a cent and a half right now, or I guess there's really no way of knowing?
00:35:24.000No, it's hard, and there'll be different statistics.
00:35:26.000We know that it's steady and it's always going down.
00:35:31.000There's a private source now trying to reproduce M3, and they claim that it's growing between 11 and 12 percent.
00:35:38.000That's a horrendous amount of monetary inflation.
00:35:42.000As a matter of fact, since that clip, Bernanke was before the Joint Economic Committee, And I didn't have as much time, but I presented the same questions, especially about the Working Group on Financial Markets, which I think is a very, very sinister group.
00:35:57.000I think they have more control over trying to bail the big guys out when there's a stock market collapse, and then the little people get held holding the bag.
00:36:06.000But when I ask him, you know, again, how often do you meet and do you hold minutes?
00:36:36.000And here comes this guy from a private Federal Reserve, owned by private families, that instructs our Treasury, and colludes with the President secretly.
00:36:43.000I mean, and again, the average American is just now beginning to realize this.
00:36:47.000That's right, and I wish I could wake up the Congress to realize how significant this is.
00:36:53.000And you know, the liberals are always concerned about the poor people, and you know, and how they're coming up short.
00:36:59.000And I agree with them on so many issues that their analysis of the problems we face are true.
00:37:05.000You know, there are poor people and they're hurt.
00:37:08.000They lose their jobs and they lose their homes and all these problems we face.
00:37:13.000And yet they do not see the connection to the monetary problem.
00:37:16.000They want the Fed to print more money to accommodate their spending.
00:37:21.000And they figure if they keep spending and maybe raise taxes on the rich, they're going to redistribute this wealth and overcome this difficulty.
00:37:28.000But the destruction of a currency always means the destruction of the middle class.
00:37:33.000And I think that's what we're starting to witness right now.
00:37:35.000Well, we know elites have always waged war on the middle class.
00:37:38.000And we know that elites have imploded currencies before by design to consolidate.
00:37:42.000But from what I've been seeing, it appears that the financial oligarchs are actually attempting to shore things up, at least for the time being, and the Financial Times of London and others are saying, that even high-level elites are worried about being bankrupted themselves because this bubble is so big, it could actually black hole their system as well.
00:39:30.000And every day they have more powers than before, because under these emergency powers, the president now has more authority than ever.
00:39:39.000And the contest really that's going on in this presidential election is, are there enough of us who care about our freedoms versus those who are willing to succumb to the temptation of dictatorship?
00:39:52.000Just think of the attitude that what was like right after 9-11 when they passed the Patriot Act.
00:40:42.000And I'm always afraid of some concocted event that will scare the American people.
00:40:47.000You know, our country is probably not on the verge, like tomorrow, of bombing Iran.
00:40:53.000But if they have some event, And that British thing was an event that they were probably contriving, hoping maybe that the Iranians would act more irrational and that would give them an excuse to start it and blame it on them.
00:41:06.000So if the people in this country need a little bit more reason to go along with the President, But, unfortunately, our leaders in this country too often have been able to provide the incident that unifies the country behind more militarism.
00:41:21.000I actually talked to the former head of the British Maritime Administration, and he was also the ambassador to Uzbekistan, and he said that the British were telling the truth that they were in Iraqi waters, but that the map was fake.
00:41:35.000It was a new map that never existed under any treaty.
00:41:37.000They just changed the map and then sent their sailors and marines in there.
00:41:43.000I don't know the details of that, but that sounds very plausible.
00:41:47.000We're about to go to calls, Congressman.
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00:42:05.000But in rapid shotgun effect, as we've done in the past, let me just throw out a few other questions to you.
00:42:12.000There's been a lot of neocon and liberal denials that the North American Union even exists, but now we've got the four-year documents via Judicial Watch of the September meeting last year, where the first agenda was keep it secret, second agenda, North American Union fuel tax, carbon tax.
00:42:30.000Can we stop it, or what do you see happening with the North American Union?
00:42:33.000Well, at the moment, I don't see much resistance in Washington, so the resistance is in grassroots America, and that is building.
00:42:41.000I would say yes we can, but we still need a lot more support and a lot more messages sent to every single congressman up there to waken them to what is happening.
00:42:51.000And you're right, the evidence is there.
00:42:54.000They pretend that this is nothing and they keep denying it, but I think the evidence is overwhelming that there's an intention, long term, not next year, you're not going to have a North American New Union next year, you're going to have it.
00:43:06.000You know, it was first it was GATT and WTO and then NAFTA and now the highways.
00:43:17.000You know, from the very, very beginning.
00:43:18.000But with this, they have founded it with that SPP agreement, and now they're, you know, putting in the plumbing, but they've laid the foundation.
00:44:15.000They're liable to bomb them, but then the Iranians are liable to move into southern Iraq or something, and then we'll feel compelled that they'll have to sell it to the American people.
00:44:25.000And then there might be a terrorist attack that, oh, we've got to have it left.
00:45:39.000And just wanted to ask you quickly if you could give a brief overview on how you would see the dismantling of the Federal Reserve and, you know, sort of the impact of that.
00:45:51.000It's obviously one of the deepest evils that kind of ride over all these issues that we're facing.
00:45:57.000Well, even I, who can't stand the Fed and we shouldn't have it, it's unconstitutional and we need to get rid of it, I would not say tomorrow you should close down the Federal Reserve.
00:46:40.000And the other thing is, Without closing the door immediately, then the next step would be to deny the Federal Reserve the power to monetize debt.
00:46:51.000To take a treasury bill and then literally create money out of thin air.
00:46:55.000And this would immediately put restraints on the politicians.
00:46:59.000Politicians like the Federal Reserve because that means they can spend... That would kill their whole magic trick system.
00:47:04.000Yeah, they would consider that the Federal Reserve would be, you know, a check clearing house and nothing more.
00:47:12.000But the whole gimmick is that they want the power to create money out of thin air and fool the people and deceive the people.
00:47:18.000So how long to get the heroin addict congressman off?
00:47:21.000I mean, how long would it take then to wean us off this system?
00:47:25.000If you started today, it could take a while and it would be tedious and it'd be hard to get people to support it.
00:47:32.000I think we're going to have the financial crisis, and then they will be forced to do it, and maybe we could even do it more dramatically than I propose.
00:47:39.000My suggestion is under today's conditions, but if you have total collapse of the financial system and rejection of the dollar, you have to restore confidence, and therefore, you have to make the money worth something.
00:47:51.000It has to have some value to it again, or they will not believe you if you just say, oh, well, we'll quit printing the money.
00:47:58.000Eventually, the people will lose trust in Now we know what their real plan is, but they're not ready for it.
00:48:03.000That's why we're trying to sure it up for now.
00:48:04.000Let it implode, then come out with a national ID card slash credit card system, which goes cashless, and they're shooting for 2011.
00:48:10.000Yeah, those plans are being laid too, and I've heard debates on that, where, why mess around with cash anymore?
00:48:20.000Well, I mean, my point is, we've got to have you in there as President.
00:48:23.000We've got to, bottom line, raise awareness of the real political financial paradigm so that they can't stage things again and then act like they're the saviors when they're the progenitors of the mess we're in.
00:48:54.000You were a little meek there, but you speak softly, but you carry a big stick, and I really appreciate that.
00:49:00.000Well he absolutely mopped the floor with Bill Maher.
00:49:03.000Oh yeah, rhetorically yeah, he had nothing against you, but Bill Maher's really snide, his cynicism can really cut through, and the sleepers, they're not going to know what's going on.
00:49:15.000I'm doing my part, just getting one-on-one with my friends and tell them about you and your campaign.
00:49:21.000What I really want from you though is the guarantee that you're going to be the man for the job.
00:49:27.000Well, I don't know what you mean by the guarantee.
00:49:29.000I can guarantee that I'm going to be out there fighting this battle and delivering a message and doing my very best.
00:49:35.000And I never know what the results will absolutely be.
00:49:41.000Within his constitutional restraints, as I've heard him say it, within the Constitution, he can do everything he can to reduce government and restore the Constitution to the Republic, correct?
00:49:57.000After the election, there's a lot you can do, just like the first thing I mentioned was you're the Commander-in-Chief, and you can do a lot to reduce the spending overseas.
00:50:05.000And then there's no reason, even though I don't believe in changing government through the executive order, I don't think there'd be any reason why you can't repeal executive orders that have been so detrimental to us.
00:50:16.000I mean, I would think that would be very legitimate for a constitutional president to get rid of the laws that the president wrote himself.
00:50:43.000I think about, matter of fact, leaving here within an hour to go to Iowa and campaign, but I think you're right.
00:50:50.000I did have one election stolen from me, and that's something you have to be alert to, and it's a little bit more complicated and sophisticated now, but it's very rare.
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00:54:35.000They wanted to do more on Imus and they promised me even more time and I think it'll be beginning of next week sometime that I will be on his show again.
00:54:57.000But Fox, MSNBC, we need to get him on there.
00:54:59.000Yeah, we need to because obviously every time they mention the candidates, they always skip over Mr. Paul.
00:55:07.000We need to make sure, exactly, they are censoring our congressman comments.
00:55:11.000You know, the one show that I would like to get on, because I know he's very sympathetic to our views, even though he's a liberal, and that is Chris Matthews.
00:55:20.000Many of our things, like on the war, he's been sympathetic, but I haven't been invited to be on his show.
00:56:39.000I think what this situation needs also besides you running for president is we need to, like we did with Defend Rosie, create an online petition for citizen's arrest.
00:57:19.000That was a lot of things I'd have to accomplish rather quickly.
00:57:23.000I think the one important point was that governments have no right to be secret, except under these very, very rare national security reasons.
00:57:32.000But we have too much government secrecy in the purpose of the government.
00:57:35.000My purpose as president would be to protect your privacy.
00:57:43.000Our privacy means nothing to them, whether it's medical privacy, financial privacy, you know, the national ID card, the whole work, and yet government becomes more secret every day.
00:57:52.000Did you hear about this big law professor who gave a speech critical of Bush and now they put him on the no-fly list?
00:59:43.000It's not when he goes on Lou Dobbs to, you know, three million people.
00:59:47.000It's not when he, uh, you know, goes and gives these speeches.
00:59:52.000But I tell you, in my own town where I live, it's like I'm dirt or something in the local media, and the local people in this community, and everybody likes to dish me.
01:00:20.000And you've got guts and guts is enough.
01:00:22.000And we don't have to do a perfect job.
01:00:23.000We don't have to have all the answers.
01:00:24.000We've just got to put one foot in front of the other.
01:00:27.000And when somebody comes in here saying we're their slaves and we've got to be their slaves and we've got to lick their boots, we've got to have the will to stand up and just start pounding.
01:00:35.000I mean, it's a fight, ladies and gentlemen.
01:00:37.000And all I hear is, well, how's he going to do it?
01:02:33.000I have been kind of on the fence with Congressman Paul, because I'm still not clear on the full-blown libertarian monetary position.
01:02:45.000I mean, you can probably explain this to me, because I haven't heard it explained well yet.
01:02:50.000And the things that you point out about the corporations, the big pharma, big agra, the military industrial complex, I don't understand how the libertarian can promote a free market system when the elites and the monopolies don't play fair.
01:03:08.000And without, what kind of a check and balance do you have against Well, I wish I would have gotten you on with him, and you know what?
01:03:18.000I promise you, if memory serves, I'll try.
01:03:21.000Next time he's on, I will bring that up.
01:03:24.000Number one, I've watched videos about it.
01:03:25.000I've read a couple books, a few pamphlets, a lot of papers, out of the Louis von Mises Institute, and I've studied the school of economics out of Austria, the Austrian school.
01:03:45.000I'll try to briefly give you my take on it on the other side.
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01:06:11.000What part of unconstitutional do you not understand, George?
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01:08:30.000You know, I had never played that song on the show, But remember when the Iraq War started four years ago, Clear Channel and several other big networks put out public memos.
01:08:44.000It was admitted banning that and hundreds of other songs that mentioned love, not just war.
01:08:49.000Now, I mean, that's the level of micro-management that we have going on.
01:09:31.000I'm the first person, if somebody punches me to get in a fight, I'm the first person to stand up.
01:09:35.000I'm the first person, but I don't get off on stomping on little kids and dropping cluster bombs on people.
01:09:40.000And that isn't manly, and that's not American, and we're killing those people!
01:09:45.000Now, we're going to go to Mike Rivero, and I said I'd answer your question about Austrian school of free market and economics, but what I'm going to do, sir, is such a big issue, is when the next hour starts, I'm going to spend about five minutes on that.
01:09:55.000I'm going to write some notes up and really think about it, trying to break down the false free market versus the real free market, and how the globalists confuse their system with free market.
01:10:05.000This is not, I mean, it's a lemon socialist type capitalism.
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01:13:11.000Well, Michael Rivera was supposed to be on last week, but I'm flaky.
01:13:29.000Well, thanks for having me on the show, Alex.
01:13:32.000We had Ron Paul on in the last hour, and I haven't talked to you since you've been holding for the last four minutes, but I'll just bring it up to you and get your take because I know you're for free markets.
01:13:40.000Can you explain to the last caller the difference between real free market, the type of Austrian school of economics, versus how we're told this modern system is free market?
01:13:52.000Well, the difference really is between whether it's going to be individuals simply engaging in trade or barred for a shared common unit of worth, Versus the managed economy, where the freedom...
01:14:05.000It is simply the freedom to ignore national borders, and it really is a case of more of a corporate free market rather than the individual people, because you still see price controls being imposed at the consumer level in this supposed free economy.
01:14:24.000The other major difference, in my opinion, of course, gets back to the unit of monetary value or debt value that you're You're using in a free economy.
01:14:33.000You will use a metals based currency like we started the United States with.
01:14:38.000But in this new so-called free market, we're still using fiat currencies whose value can be altered by government fiat from above.
01:15:03.000It's not a free market where they're allowed to come in and buy off your politician and have the Supreme Court rule that they can take private property if a private interest wants it without proper just compensation.
01:15:12.000It's a free-for-all for them to set up big government to socialize our wealth and conduit into their fat mouths.
01:15:22.000a free market basically puts the power and control in the hands of the individual citizens and this current manifestation which is being called a free market really places the part it's corporatism it's just another name for corporatism absolutely Again, we never pre-script this interview.
01:15:41.000Mike, what do you think is most important?
01:15:42.000What are the two or three big things that you're focused on right now?
01:15:45.000Then let's get into some of the news, the war news, the British sailors, what's happening with the dollar, the economy, and so many other fronts.
01:15:53.000What do you think is most important that we should talk about right now?
01:15:56.000Well, I think one of the most important things that everybody needs to be aware of is yesterday, President Ahmadinejad of Iran announced that their nuclear enrichment facilities are now operating at industrial levels to manufacture fuel rods for Iran's power stations.
01:16:12.000And a lot of people viewed this as an intentional provocation or escalation of the situation where Iran is waiving its defiance of the world, but in reality what Ahmadinejad He did, if he issued a caution, because if the U.S.
01:16:28.000bombs Iran's nuclear facilities now that they are operating, it will trigger a radioactive leak disaster.
01:16:44.000We will see tremendous amounts of uranium particulated and thrown into the air.
01:16:49.000And it will make the depleted uranium issues that we're seeing currently in Iraq, it'll just be more of the same thing.
01:16:56.000Which never stopped the neocons in the past.
01:17:00.000No, it didn't, but this plume, and if you go back to Chernobyl, the plume from that disaster spread all over Western Europe, all the way up into Norway, Scandinavia.
01:17:13.000And now 20 years later, we've seen massive increases in cancers.
01:17:17.000Cancer, leukemia, severe birth abnormalities.
01:17:21.000Our own soldiers, when they serve in the wars with the depleted uranium munitions, and they just handle those, and then they come home and they're having children, there's an epidemic of severe birth abnormalities in our military.
01:17:33.000Four times, and it's the classic radiation-associated deformities.
01:17:40.000bombs the Iranian nuclear facilities now, there will be an environmental disaster that will just dwarf all of the prior ones.
01:17:48.000And what Ahmadinejad is saying is, it will be the United States' fault if this disaster is unleashed on the Middle East and Central Asia.
01:17:57.000And it's not something that is going to be confined to the other side of the world, because once these materials get up into the high altitude winds, We're already seeing detectable levels of depleted uranium from the Iraq War showing up in England.
01:18:11.000And, you know, this will get all over the planet.
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01:23:24.000Michael, I saw this story here in the stack out of Australia where the headline is, the father's given so much, his little baby went in to get her last round of shots.
01:23:40.000She was totally healthy, but by that night went into a coma.
01:23:43.000He had to give her part of his liver, and now he's got to give her his kidney because she's dying still.
01:23:49.000But it just mentions, oh, by the way, this all just out of the blue happened when she got the shot.
01:23:53.000I mean, everybody I know who's got children who have autism, I mean, all of them, might go, let me guess, 18 months, third round of shots, yes.
01:24:15.000I mean, and I saw you comment under, I always love to go read your comments that you do on the site under the blogs you post, the stories you post, where you said, oh yes, it's a coincidence.
01:24:27.000Well, it's an unfortunate aspect of our time that we have all become very, very cynical.
01:24:32.000Actually, maybe it's a good thing because it also means we're very skeptical and we're not as trusting of some of the things that have been given to us.
01:24:39.000But the current medical industry is definitely suffering a credibility crisis regarding vaccinations.
01:24:47.000And they did bring it on themselves by using the mercury-based preservatives and then getting caught misrepresenting the safety and efficacy of these compounds.
01:24:57.000So now people are very very suspicious when they are told that for the health of their child and themselves they need to take a shot and then almost immediately afterwards some other medical situation develops and I know a lot of people and I'm one of them we don't get our flu shots every year and it's been about 10 years since I got a flu shot and it's about It's been about 10 years since I've gotten the flu.
01:25:21.000My mother used to run triathlons like 10 years ago.
01:25:56.000He said her kidneys had been failing for a while.
01:25:58.000It was just a coincidence that she'd become so ill the day of her vaccinations.
01:26:03.000Well, again, the medical industry is always going to protect itself, and that's not unique to either Great Britain or the United States.
01:26:09.000But Mike Rivero, it's so weird that that man died after that Mack truck ran over him.
01:26:14.000But they say the Mack truck had nothing to do with his intestines being all over the street.
01:26:19.000Yeah, his intestines were weak already and therefore it wasn't.
01:26:22.000But the problem is that in Great Britain the vaccine makers can still be sued and so obviously the medical institutions are not going to admit any existing links between the vaccinations and medical science.
01:26:38.000Here in the United States, believe it or not, the bill that created the Homeland Security Agency Had a rider attached to it, which protects American vaccine makers from any kind of lawsuits resulting from illness or death connected to the use of their vaccine.
01:26:56.000And that included the thimerosal preservatives.
01:26:59.000That's right, which they haven't taken out by the way, ladies and gentlemen.
01:27:01.000They have made, by regulatory, not even a law, available small lots of thimerosal free.
01:27:07.000They play a lot of word games, don't they?
01:27:10.000Yeah, they absolutely do, and unfortunately we are in a situation where the government very clearly is aligned with corporate interests against... well, the interests of the common people are definitely subordinate, and that really is the classic definition of fascism.
01:27:26.000Even Mussolini, who we will all acknowledge as an expert on being a fascist, said that it really was corporatism, where the government and corporations work together to exploit the general population economically as much as possible.
01:27:39.000And we see that here in that the government protections of our food, of our medical establishment that we all knew when we were much younger, have all evaporated.
01:27:51.000And it really has become buyer beware.
01:27:55.000Certainly when we watch the TV commercials for a lot of the medications that are being sold to us now, and we hear that very rapid voice talking about the possible consequences, these are some very toxic materials that are being sold to us.
01:28:07.000But they're being sold for conditions that are being redefined as diseases, and in many cases these very unsafe compounds are being sold because it's a new patent Where they can sell for much higher profit than an older medication which has now gone generic that would treat the same thing.
01:28:27.000So it's all about maximizing profits and very often the safety of the American people is very much a secondary issue until something really bad happens that they get caught doing.
01:28:39.000So certainly the vaccination industry has been caught Concealing issues linked to their vaccine.
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01:30:10.000Yes, this is Elizabeth Porter, back with The Divided Kingdom, the hour that analyzes spiritual and cultural issues, too.
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01:33:33.000The elevators, I don't know the technical term for this, but like they go down, I don't have the plans in front of me, but say they go down like 45 stories and then there's another group of elevators next to them staggered.
01:33:50.000We'll bring that up with him, but the reason he's coming on is he talked to some of the family members of one of the stewardesses, one of the flight attendants, I'll be politically correct, excuse me, who We're on flight 77, and they now believe it's an inside job, and came to his talk, and we've got some audio of him talking to them coming up.
01:34:08.000Going back to Michael Rivero, and I know we've got calls, we'll get to those.
01:34:14.000Mike, I had Ron Paul on, presidential candidate, obviously, in the last hour, and He openly said, yeah, they'll probably try a dictatorship if the economy implodes.
01:34:25.000He agreed that they're trying to shore it up right now.
01:34:28.000They meant to implode it later, but once they had their cashless grid in by 2011, as the head of Visa and others have said, to totally bankrupt it and bring in their false solution of a new total fiat cashless system where they can really manipulate and rob us through inflation.
01:34:44.000He's confronted the Fed Chairman on these issues, but he said that clearly they will try to set up a dictatorship very soon.
01:34:51.000All the signs are there, but like you said, make a dictatorship act like a dictatorship.
01:34:56.000He was saying he doesn't think the people are going to buy it, and literally that everybody we wake up now is a race against the devil.
01:35:03.000I mean, you could say that, this literal race against stuff that can only be called devilish with what they're going to try to set up and that on every front the new world order has got control.
01:35:40.000Then I'll shut up and let you comment because I really want to hear it.
01:35:43.000In the past, in the 80s and the 70s, whenever they've done these controlled corrections, these financial snacks on investors and homeowners and the middle and working classes, they will allow implosions and consolidate.
01:36:26.000Well, I want to step back a little bit what you were talking about, you know, these repeating cycles of inflation, recession, inflation, recession.
01:36:34.000Everyone says, oh, how can we control inflation?
01:36:37.000Well, when you have a fiat money system where the Federal Reserve is simply printing up the money or tallying it up in a computer account out of thin air, it is very obvious that the Federal Reserve controls all inflation.
01:36:48.000They can halt inflation immediately simply by shutting down the printing presses and by saying, okay, we're not adding any more numbers to these computer accounts.
01:36:56.000I'm very concerned that this repeating cycle of inflation recession is designed to basically pump, like a giant heartbeat, the real wealth out of the general population and into the corporations.
01:37:11.000And I think the real estate market is a really good example of the kind of manipulation that we're seeing.
01:37:17.000We know that the Federal Reserve, in order to try and keep the economy going a little bit longer, has been increasing the money supply.
01:37:26.000They stopped publishing the M3 aggregate of how much money is in circulation to sort of conceal the number.
01:37:31.000The reason we have not seen as much of the price increases that we would normally expect with the money supply being inflated is that real estate was being used as a cash sink.
01:37:44.000The government would get all this extra money from the Federal Reserve, and they'd spend it to support their war and their programs, It would trickle through the society and then people would take that money and give it to the banks on their mortgage payments on all these new homes that they had bought, you know, with the refinancing and the larger properties and everything.
01:38:04.000And the homeowners were thinking they were getting richer because the home that 15 years ago cost only $40,000, was now going for a quarter of a million dollars.
01:38:15.000And they were thinking, my God, I'm just getting so rich under this system.
01:38:19.000But in reality, it's the same home, it's the same number of bedrooms, it's the same garage, it's the same front door.
01:38:25.000It is just on paper that the numbers were getting more and more impressive.
01:38:29.000But the reality is that the Federal Reserve was effectively counterfeiting money to give to the government, the government was spending it, and then the real estate Financing institutions were sweeping it all back up so that we didn't have all this extra money chasing too few goods and services, which is what pushes prices up.
01:38:57.000So that extra money that the government is spending doesn't have a hole to go into anymore.
01:39:03.000And we are now starting to see upward pressure on prices because There's too much money chasing too few goods and services.
01:39:10.000So that's a big part of why the collapse of the real estate market is a major, major monkey wrench into the Federal Reserve's attempts to keep the US government solvent as it goes into these wars.
01:39:24.000Now, with regard to Iran, as I said earlier in the show, I think attacking those nuclear sites is going to be a horrendous environmental mistake.
01:39:36.000thinks it can sustain an actual ground invasion of Iran.
01:39:42.000I assume that what is really wanted is just the southern part of Iran where all the oil fields are located.
01:39:48.000But I have to wonder to what extent George Bush and his neocons are really being insulated from some of the realities of what's going on.
01:39:57.000Because all this talk about going into Iran is very much reminding me of the last days of World War II.
01:40:04.000When Hitler was ordering armies into battle that did not actually exist, and nobody would dare tell him that they didn't exist for fear of being shot.
01:40:13.000So, I have to wonder if the plans to attack Iran... And by the way, we know that even his favorites are fired if they even question.
01:42:07.000I mean, because there's not reality with these neocon, limp-wristed, chicken-necked, fake conservatives.
01:42:14.000Well, I think the problem is that they're still trying to play the game by the rules and methods that worked back during the Cold War.
01:42:21.000And I suspect the thinking is that if they can crank up a war in Iran, that it will reignite the patriotic furor of the American people.
01:42:30.000And they will, again, back their president and his cause in Iran, and it will all start signing up.
01:42:37.000With the military recruiters to fight this new crusade.
01:42:39.000Unfortunately, for the government and fortunately for the people, because of radio shows like ours and because of the blogs and because of the internet and communication, the American people already know that they were lied into the last couple of wars.
01:42:53.000They know they're being lied into this one.
01:42:56.000Every time Bush has attacked somebody, that little poll bump that he expects at the end of it has been getting less and less.
01:43:03.000So I think when Bush attacks Iran, he is not going to see any kind of surge of American popular support for himself and his policies, and we will find ourselves in a war that ultimately we cannot win.
01:43:15.000Well, they don't have aircraft carriers over there to play Parcheesi or a game of badminton.
01:43:20.000And just like with 2002, they played a psychological game of saying in the Washington Post and everywhere else, we know it's going to be mid-March 2002.
01:43:29.000They said that three months before, you know, right with the New Year in January, they were saying it or two months before.
01:43:35.000And it turned out the Washington Post had been at the Bilderberg Group meeting and that the decision that later came out had been made to not attack until March of 2003.
01:43:42.000And then it kind of becomes a foregone conclusion where even those of us against the war, you know, who are violently opposed to it, are just expecting it.
01:43:51.000A lot of you heard Ron Paul last hour when I said, well, you know, we could have a staged terror attack.
01:43:57.000they could you know there could be some pretext he said absolutely and he said you know they don't have selective service geared up in the draft boards ready for nothing and so I I mean I think sooner rather than later because their back is up against the wall they're gonna stage some gigantic terror attack in this country and folks when that happens you gotta know we are off to the races you gotta I mean, don't wait for some spontaneous, don't wait to get an order to go to a demonstration.
01:44:23.000You've got to spontaneously do it, spontaneously call into talk radio, spontaneously come out against this.
01:44:31.000But, I mean, to specifically answer my question, Michael Rivera of whatreallyhappened.com, I mean, specifically give me your take on Do you think that their orchestra, because we know that they wanted to do this later, that's their program and we know that, and there's all the evidence we can't go into because of time.
01:44:46.000We know they wanted to implode the economy sometime around 2010-2011.
01:44:49.000The congressmen agree with me on that.
01:44:52.000George Humphreys, an economist, agrees with me on that.
01:44:54.000I mean, it's pretty obvious that's when their game plan will be fully in place, that right now they're still trying to shore things up, but I don't think they can shore things up now.
01:45:02.000So what I'm saying is, A, do you think they're trying to shore things up?
01:45:06.000Or B, do you think they want to go ahead and let it slowly decline?
01:45:09.000And then C, will it just be an accelerated implosion?
01:45:16.000I think the economy is not as much under their control as they would like to pretend, and I think certain individual private interests are already in the let's loot some for ourselves stage, because we know it's going to go down sometime, and the longer we can prop it along, the more we can take out of it for our own personal greed.
01:45:35.000I mean, we heard just this last week, the CEO of Ford, who was only on the job for a few months, and he just walked away with this incredibly huge compensation package, We're seeing corporate leaders loot their own companies.
01:45:48.000We're seeing government leaders loot the nation.
01:45:51.000That, to me, basically says that whether intentional or not, it is thought that the collapse is not very far off indeed.
01:45:59.000No, I mean, please continue, but I want to concur with you.
01:46:06.000I've actually been really, I mean, like never before, I'm feeling anxious because of all the indices.
01:46:13.000Yeah, you can see them kind of creeping to the door, and now more and more getting up and creeping towards the door, and now they're starting to shove, and they're starting to be a stampede, and then I see the general public still buying designer clothes, giggling, laughing, loving the war, and in a sick way, I kind of can't wait until these yuppies are out on the street, because they deserve it, Mike!
01:46:34.000Well, I'm not sure how much they deserve it, but yes, there have been a lot of very short-sighted people.
01:46:39.000But ultimately, that was the goal of the brainwashing that we saw through the mainstream media.
01:46:43.000And to an extent, that propaganda was successful.
01:46:48.000Had it not been for shows like yours and websites like mine, they would have been much more successful.
01:46:53.000So I think we have to look at the fact that That they're not able to easily achieve their original agenda, because it's clearly not going the way they originally planned it to, and that definitely is the result of a new awareness among the American people.
01:47:10.000The Internet and non-corporate radio have definitely changed the formula by which information flows between the general population and society's leaders, and has really changed the rules, I think, as dramatically As when movable type printing came along.
01:47:29.000Well I want you to elaborate on that and also elaborate on the Ministry of Defense report the British just put out.
01:47:35.000And this is where they're saying what they believe probable is going to happen and they say the big problem is the alternative media now has killed government's monopoly of information.
01:47:54.000I'm just saying for the war-mongering scum who love this system and don't know these corporatists aren't their friends, that, you know, I'm not going to cry for them is my point.
01:48:04.000Well, I think, unfortunately, the people who are pro-war have already got their golden parachutes and they will be the ones least to be hurt by it all.
01:48:12.000And that is, unfortunately, a historical constant that the people who are pro-war... I mean the general... Mike, I mean mainline Dumbo neocon followers.
01:48:22.000Yeah, the followers, they will get hurt.
01:48:26.000And yes, to an extent, they deserve it because they sold out the common good of their neighbors and friends in exchange for a few pieces of silver from their corporate masters.
01:48:36.000And yeah, it will be somewhat vicariously pleasant to see them stumble and fall when this all comes apart.
01:48:45.000I mean, I'm sad, but that's the wages of sin or death, folks.
01:48:54.000And we can't be the pig people of the evil empire and not be hurt by it.
01:48:58.000And I'll be hurt by it too, but I don't want this to happen.
01:49:01.000But I'm just letting the pig people out there know, the ones that really like all this, Those that say parking lot, parking lot, I want them to know, let's turn them into a glass parking lot, I want them to know that your masters never cared about you, the people killing those innocent Iraqi children are the ones that are destroying our borders and our sovereignty and our country.
01:49:19.000And I just want them to know when it happens, who did it to them.
01:49:23.000Absolutely, I would agree, and you'd think these people would look back at history and look at the way our government is treating our own wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq.
01:49:33.000If there was anybody that deserved a little care and gratitude and good treatment for having made that ultimate sacrifice, it's our returning wounded veterans, and yet look how badly they're treated.
01:49:44.000That basically tells you that the people calling the shots on this war, they think of themselves only, and even their good friends are expendable to serve the agenda of greed.
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01:53:57.000And you don't feel much like riding, you just wish the trip was through.
01:54:12.000On the road again There I am Upon the tears There I go This hour again There I go From the face We walk into this restaurant
01:54:40.000I'm strong out From the road And you feel the eyes upon you As you're shaking out the door The thing that doesn't bother you But you just want to explode Most times you can't hear a call
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01:55:22.000I want to keep Mike Rivero 15 minutes or so into the next hour.
01:55:25.000If he'll stay with us, we can take your calls from Seth, Tony, Olivia, and others.
01:55:32.000Michael Rivero, this is always a great conversation we have back and forth, adding to each other's analysis.
01:55:37.000The Ministry of Defense report, I saw you wrote a big blurb on that.
01:55:41.000The British report that came out, why don't you in a nutshell tell folks about that report and your comment on the story that Paul Watson put out.
01:55:47.000By the way, that whole report, we dug it up, is now posted on PrisonPlanet.com, but give us your take on that Ministry of Defense report.
01:55:56.000The Ministry of Defense report, basically they came out and said, well let me back up just a step.
01:56:03.000This issue was the Iranian capture and then release of the sailors and marines.
01:56:09.000Has turned into a public relations nightmare for Tony Blair and for the British war effort.
01:56:15.000The Iranians were very wise to treat the captured sailors gently.
01:56:22.000They videotaped it to document how they were treated.
01:56:24.000It was very obvious in the videos that were being shown that these people were not under any kind of duress or stress at all.
01:56:32.000And it just made it very obvious that when they were finally returned, There's sudden retractions.
01:56:40.000It was obvious to anybody watching that one sailor who was reading the prepared statement.
01:56:44.000He seemed to be under a great deal more stress there than he was on the videotapes in Iran.
01:56:50.000So the Ministry of Defense has basically been looking at the issue of morale among the military.
01:56:57.000And they're basically reporting that on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq, they are starting to see what they term as a revolt that is starting to spread through the forces, and they're saying it's basically demoralizing the British Army, because despite all the controls on what the soldiers on the ground are allowed to see and hear and read, Uh, just word of mouth is carrying, uh, the lies and deceptions, uh, throughout the rank and file.
01:57:25.000By the way, Mike, 9-11 truth, as you know, is rampant in both the military.
01:57:32.000I get a lot of emails from soldiers on the ground in Iraq saying basically, you know, we know it's all a lie and we're here because of a lie.
01:58:28.000We're scheduled in about 30 minutes to have William Rodriguez on, one of the heroes of 9-11 who saved a lot of people.
01:58:34.000He just spoke to a big crowd and there was some of the family members of one of the flight attendants on flight 77 that supposedly hit the Pentagon.
01:58:44.000And they had some interesting comments and we have some audio of that.
01:58:48.000I don't know how much of it will air, but Willie's coming up, a good friend of the show.
01:58:52.000Let's uh... Now, Michael Rivero, finishing up your comments on the Ministry of Defense report on the heels of the implosion of their morale, which I'm glad you brought that up.
01:59:03.000The Ministry of Defense report, with the flash mobs and the brain chips, and oh, there's going to be no middle class, so they're going to rebel.
01:59:10.000I mean, it sounds like we wrote that article because they're admitting that they're losing control.
01:59:17.000Yeah, absolutely, and it is unfortunate Well, this actually gets back to that comment I made one of our previous shows, that the fastest way to end a dictatorship is to force them to act like one.
01:59:29.000And as both the British and American governments continue to see themselves losing control over the population, we're going to see more and more attempts to impose draconian controls over us in an attempt to retain their power and wealth and position.
01:59:46.000And I think given the degree of education of the American people, certainly because of radio shows like yours.
01:59:55.000These actions are going to trigger exactly the opposite response.
01:59:59.000And again, this gets back to the idea that a lot of the people in charge of these government operations are still thinking in Cold War terms.
02:00:06.000You know, back 20-30 years ago, Britain's manipulation of the propaganda regarding the seizure of their sailors would have worked.
02:00:15.000The public would have bought it, that Iran treated them badly, that they were tortured, that they were abused, and therefore Iran was really bad.
02:00:23.000But because of the global reach and flow of information outside of government and main corporate control, they weren't able to pull that off, and this really did blow up in their faces.
02:00:34.000So, getting to that Ministry of Defense report that you refer to, yes, it's describing a scenario where Britain will impose, by force, control upon the people to make sure that government policy is implemented without fear of rejection or opposition by the people.
02:00:54.000And that is a dictatorship by any stretch of the imagination.
02:00:59.000Now, We have more than breached their monopoly of information, and I think they're beginning to realize that if the elite would have just been happy with what they had, or slowly grown their empire, they could have won, but like every other control freak mass in history, they got too confident, they got on power trips, and now it doesn't look good.
02:01:21.000No, no, if anything hubris Is what is going to bring them down, because the more they get, the more they want.
02:01:31.000And I guess it is something, an aspect of the sickness of greed, that people who have got more than they could ever really need to live on, they start seeing money not as a necessity for life, but simply as a way of keeping score and playing the game.
02:01:47.000And eventually they lose sight of the fact that what they're really playing with isn't money, but other people's lives, and people will resent that.
02:01:54.000And I do think that they've overreached.
02:01:57.000I think the American people are definitely waking up to the fact that their government is not in service to the people, but is in service to large amounts of money.
02:02:07.000We saw Nancy Pelosi traveling through the Mideast running errands for Israel when she's supposed to be here in the United States taking care of business.
02:02:15.000We're seeing Hillary Clinton is urging the Polish government to restore confiscated Jewish property from World War II.
02:02:24.000When she is paid to be taking care of the people of New York.
02:02:28.000So we're seeing this, you know, a U.S.
02:02:31.000Congressman are basically the hired messengers for private commercial interests.
02:02:35.000And I think the American people are getting tired of that.
02:02:40.000Seth, Tony, Tim, many others on the other side.
02:02:43.000The final segment with Michael Rivera, then I've got a news blitz coming up, and then William Rodriguez will be joining us as well.
02:02:50.000The websites are InfoWars.com, JonesReport.com, and PrisonPlanet.tv.
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02:06:52.000A few months ago, I was working at an office cleaning job, and I was at a Meritas brokerage firm.
02:07:02.000And I saw a major financial publication called The Bond Buyer, and there was one, two versions of it.
02:07:09.000It said The Bond Buyer and then The Bond Buyer Texas Edition.
02:07:11.000And in the Texas Edition, it talked about the TexDOT asking FedDOT for a $1.5 billion loan so they can take our money to build the toll roads and hand it over to Centra.
02:07:42.000This would be like if Michael Rivero or Alex Jones or Sally Sockerbob or Joe Sixpack went and paid, say, your mayor $5,000 to give you a city building worth a million.
02:07:55.000I mean, we're talking about tens of billions a year they'll make in Texas alone.
02:07:59.000They're taking all the existing major roads in Austin and publicly turning them into toll roads.
02:08:04.000And, Mike Rivero, you want to comment on that?
02:08:09.000This is a criminal situation because the government does not really own those roads.
02:08:14.000We, the people, own them because our taxes paid for them.
02:08:17.000They are the property of the people, not the government.
02:08:20.000And for the government to take these roads, which are built with taxpayer funds, Then turn them over to private companies who will then start making more money off the same taxpayers who pay for those rents.
02:08:37.000It'd be like if I gave the mayor $5,000 to give me a million-dollar building, and then he agreed to do $50,000 of upkeep each year for 50 years.
02:08:46.000Yeah, Alex, just like you said, Texas is the linchpin of the entire nation.
02:08:50.000Without Texas, The North American Union cannot go through.
02:08:53.000And they're doing the same thing up here in Nebraska.
02:08:55.000I've seen the cameras go up everywhere and the legislation saying how, oh, the tollbooth will be an economic boom for the state and it's just a total joke.
02:09:03.000I remember when they said that about the lotteries.
02:09:07.000Oh, and now, Mike, I've seen it on your site, so I know you know about it.
02:09:10.000They're selling lotteries that make, take Michigan, 800 plus mil a year profit.
02:09:16.000Now, in past similar sales, you know, they'd sell it for 5, 10, 15, 20 billion.
02:09:21.000You'd sell it for many multiples above what it makes a year.
02:09:25.000Again, how are they getting away with this?
02:09:28.000They're getting away with it because the people let it happen.
02:09:30.000The people in the states are looking at it and saying, well, you know.
02:09:33.000And a big part of it is, and I talk about this a lot on my own show, I think Americans are too conditioned by TV to sit and wait for a hero to come in to fix the things.
02:09:43.000We all grew up knowing that the Lone Ranger was going to ride in or Batman was going to come in and punch the bad guys and make everything all better.
02:09:51.000Or we're taught to just sit at home and pray for divine intervention.
02:09:56.000If we want the world to be a better place, we're going to have to do it.
02:09:59.000And it begins with getting right in the face of that government that makes their money off of our taxes and saying, this is how you're going to carry out your business.
02:10:26.000If we want there to be a heaven or hell here on earth, it's going to be up to us to make which one it will be.
02:10:32.000And they went out, and I know we're taught not to be confrontational, we're taught hate is bad, no matter, you know, if the person we're looking at deserves to be hated, or the institution we're looking at deserves to be hated, we're taught hate is bad.
02:10:44.000But we're going to have to be confrontational, because the government and corporations are stealing our country from us, We're going to have to take it back, and it's going to be a confrontation.
02:10:53.000There's no peaceful way to reverse the course that we're on right now.
02:11:48.000But there's still a degree of denial because everyone grew up with this image of America that we were all taught in state-sponsored schools.
02:11:55.000We don't want to surrender that because it's actually become part of our identity.
02:11:59.000But it really is happening and it's going to get worse until the people stop it from getting worse.
02:12:04.000There's no reason for the government to stop abusing us and taking our money.
02:12:08.000This whole global warming thing is just another device to get everybody to accept global government.
02:12:14.000To make do with less so the government can have more, to surrender more taxes for carbon offsets.
02:12:19.000It's all about creating a new crisis with which to manipulate the people and take the money.
02:12:24.000And it's going to keep getting worse and worse until somebody, until the people say, stop, we've had enough.
02:12:34.000And you know, we're, we're willing, you know, we're willing to do what's necessary to halt this slide into dictatorship.
02:12:41.000But again, they're going to act like dictators and do it regardless, so we need to marshal our forces, grow our numbers now, knowing the bigger battle, and like Mike said, it's probably going to end up with dead cops all over the streets and troops.
02:12:56.000They're going to have to get their clocks clean, you know, to learn a lesson, and they're going to have to find out their black ski masks don't scare us, and they can get some of us, they can't get us all.
02:13:04.000I'd rather the cops and military wake up and join us.
02:13:50.000Well, you know, I think this is sort of the younger Bush's version of the Franklin scandal, which affected the elder Bush's time in the White House.
02:13:59.000And you begin to wonder if our leaders are acting the way they do because they really do have some serious personality problems.
02:14:07.000And this gets back to that old saying that the problem with power is that it's going to attract the very people who shouldn't have it.
02:14:27.000I just real quickly have a couple of Friends of our family who work in a very powerful senator from the state of Nevada's state offices here, and they told us about a week and a half ago that Blair and Bush were going to use the hostages, the so-called detainees, whatever, 15 British sailors that have been picked up as a reason, they were trying to use it as a reason to hit by Good Friday Iran, and then they said
02:14:55.000That was the primary reason, though there's many reasons, well on Wednesday of last week anyway, Blair came out and said in 48 hours we're going to take it up another notch.
02:15:03.000But they said that was the primary reason for Pelosi's trip to Israel, to Syria, to get Syria to put pressure on Iran to release those hostages before Good Friday, and that's exactly what happened.
02:15:14.000I was just wondering if any of your sources state she was there for multiple reasons, but to use pressure We heard that from a lot of different quarters and a lot of different sources, and Italian and Russian newspapers reported that a week before all of that even broke.
02:15:33.000Well, my comment about that is because Bush wanted to use the Iran sailor situation As a pretext for war, I'm not sure I would buy this idea that Pelosi was sent in there to pressure Syria to get Iran to release... Yeah, because Israel wants war, and she's bought and paid for by AIPAC.
02:15:53.000Yeah, and Bush wants the war, so for both those reasons, and certainly Pelosi is a Bush supporter.
02:15:59.000She's kept impeachment out of the Congress so far.
02:16:02.000Yeah, let me just say, most of these staffers you're going to find, even at a senatorial level, know which lobbyists they work for and what bills to write.
02:16:22.000We're trying to maintain the overview.
02:16:24.000That's why I wanted to ask your guys' opinion on that, because I was just curious and wondering what y'all had heard, and we've got to get behind Ron Paul, and I would call just every program you can and try to get in there and pretend to say something else, and as soon as you get in, push Ron Paul, because they're fearful.
02:16:40.000That's why they're trying to get Fred Thompson, or if we even can get to another election, which we need to pray about, because like you guys, I feel the breath of the New World Order on the back of my neck.
02:16:48.000I don't even think they want to get it to another election, but that's why they're moving the primaries in all the major states.
02:16:54.000To the forefront, because they don't want you, like a Ron Paul, to be able to get his voice out.
02:17:00.000Paul, there's no doubt that move to California with the primaries is meant to block out third party or dark horse or populist upstarts.
02:17:12.000With the massive exposure of vote fraud that we're seeing, they're having to go to other methods to try and lock out the non-approved candidates.
02:17:21.000I think this last November, uh... sent a real strong message that the american people if they do decide to vote with one voice and one purpose that they can in fact overcome the vote fraud so they're basically trying to reshape the electoral process where the only possible choices are already pre-approved by the corporate and uh... various other foreign interests and it is definitely an attempt to lock out third parties All right.
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02:24:53.000It's time, you know, and I just want to kind of reiterate some great things, you know, but this is a wonderful thing.
02:25:00.000I mean, I'm sitting here thinking about this.
02:25:02.000There's people all over the country right now at this moment who are being drawn by the truth.
02:25:09.000And it's time for us to stand up and get in their face and say, look, now this is about freedom and this is about tyranny.
02:25:22.000Because for me, in my house, we choose to follow the Lord and the Lord has blessed us I think all of us right now in this moment have blessed us with the ability to see the truth.
02:25:37.000I hear you, my friend, and it is a blessing to know the truth, and I appreciate your call.
02:25:47.000Even though I'm a previous caller, I am a Teamster truck driver.
02:25:51.000Oh, there's that big... I should have talked about that more.
02:25:55.000Tell folks about the big protests that are coming up.
02:26:00.000You're supposed to be surrounding the state legislatures, the big truck strike.
02:26:04.000And the thing is, I talk to people in my local, and they're pretty interested in Ron Paul, and there's not so much getting the national leadership more Ron Paul, it's going by local by local.
02:26:15.000And I talked to my brother, he's a UAW, and he just found that UAW just sold out all its members to globalism, and of those union members, some of those big union bosses are on the same payroll as the politicians in the New World Order crowd.
02:26:40.000The problem with, you know, getting everybody collected into one group with a leader is that leader is very easy to corrupt, and the corruptors certainly have enough money and influence to do that.
02:26:50.000and ultimately, grassroots, numerous, many, many small people operating independently to achieve a cause are going to be much more effective.
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02:31:40.000And our two cameras, and he had three cameras there.
02:31:44.000He did a great job, and he lays, you know, he goes through 9-11, he goes through the tragedy, he goes through how he saved the people, and then how the cover-up's taken place, and how they try to use him.
02:31:54.000It's a very poignant, important, well-done piece.
02:32:38.000Now, this morning I talked to him, and he'd just gotten back from his trip from New York to Michigan, and he'd been there defending Kevin Barrett, the professor who they've been calling for him to be fired, for him not to be able to give speeches, for him to have his, you know, You know what they do.
02:33:38.000The majority of police and firemen, the vast majority I talked to in New York, know there's a cover-up.
02:33:44.000Okay, so the New World Order is sitting on top of a keg of dynamite here, a keg of TNT, and let me tell you, there's fuses all over the place, and those fuses are already lit, folks.
02:33:53.000The question is, will that keg of TNT go off and blow us to bits, or are we going to get in a position where this doesn't hurt us?
02:34:03.000He also spoke to some of the family of one of the people on Flight 77.
02:34:05.000And he did a really professional job, but I didn't talk to him after this morning.
02:34:11.000He sent me this video clip he put together of a slideshow, so it made more sense to just cut out the questions that we're asking, you know, insert them ourselves, to make it have more brevity.
02:34:21.000But I was unable to get that in time, so William's going to do it.
02:34:25.000William Rodriguez, thank you for joining us.
02:34:44.000Where you went, why you went, what happened.
02:34:46.000Ann Arbor, of course, the site of Michigan State University, and what we were trying to do was, I heard And read on one of the bloggers that Kevin Barrett was attacked by one of the survivors of the World Trade Center.
02:35:05.000And when I read the whole story, it just started to clarify the sense of why the attack was happening.
02:35:12.000It was brought in by the Jewish Republican Union.
02:35:17.000from his university while he was away.
02:35:21.000He was doing a speech, a conference somewhere in another state.
02:35:27.000And they just kind of put this together because they knew he wasn't going to be there to debate this guy.
02:35:32.000And what basically this guy is doing is he's going on a speaking tour, you know, promoting a book.
02:35:39.000And he's a survivor from the 50-something floor and basically attacked Mr. Barrett directly.
02:35:46.000And what we have here was an attempt by this organization to discredit these men.
02:35:53.000But again, you know, you're going to have, of course, the victims that do not agree with what we're doing, but the majority agree with what we are trying to do to look for the search for the truth.
02:36:04.000And so I got so angry that I said, well, how come they never call me this group?
02:36:09.000And of course, because they wanted to attack Mr. Barrett.
02:36:11.000So I said, no, I'm going to take it upon myself to go over there and try to do something.
02:36:16.000And what little do we know is that so many people were so upset that they started to call for the possibility of an argumentation and debate forum.
02:36:26.000And they brought Mr. Kevin from UL Laboratory and Kevin Ryan.
02:36:34.000And they put together this debate and invited the youth of the Republican Party, they invited all the groups that supposedly attack us constantly, and they didn't show up.
02:36:47.000We had an empty seat, and what happened was that Mr. Barrett and Mr. Kevin Ryan had to do the debate themselves.
02:36:57.000And it was funny because just to see Mr. Kevin Ryan playing the devil's advocate, Made it more of an interesting event for the day.
02:37:06.000After that I spoke and little did I know that in the front of the audience, sitting in the front seat, was a family from the flight 177, the plane that hit the South Tower.
02:37:18.000And they were totally moved by the presentation and the support was overwhelmingly positive.
02:37:25.000And that's what we came To experience this weekend and eventually we're going back to keep support to the group and this new group in Ann Arbor To do other kind of presentations as well.
02:37:38.000I mean they were so organized and I was so proud to be there Now tell us specifically about who this family is who this woman and man are that you then talked to and who they had that was family on Flight 77 Well, this is John and Bev Titus They lost their daughter.
02:37:59.000And if you play the clip, you could hear the first question that I asked is, can you please tell us, what do you think of William Rodriquez's presentation?
02:38:21.000I thought he did an incredible job of telling the facts, giving us some insight from the inside of the towers, portraying it in such a strong and powerful emotional way, and with the evidence to back it up, that it was beyond credible.
02:38:47.000It's something that we've been looking for the answers for a long time and to hear people that were there that knew what was going on helps us in some of the, in our grieving.
02:39:01.000Alicia was killed on the second plane that hit the South Tower.
02:39:06.000So we've been dealing with her own grief and we felt Mr. Rodriguez's pain as well and we know that That he's dealing with some of the same issues that we are.
02:39:18.000Yeah, let me ask you the question everybody has in their minds.
02:39:21.000As an affected family member of 9-11, do you support us and Mr. Rodriguez's search for the truth on what we're trying to bring out for the families?
02:39:34.000That'll be our lifelong quest is to try to find the truth of September 11th and what's really the real story behind it because we know that what we've been given is only a glimpse of it and distortions of it.
02:39:54.000My daughter deserves better than that.
02:40:01.000She was a flight attendant on Flight 125.
02:40:05.000I feel five years later that it's still very difficult for me to wrap my mind around that Alicia was killed and that there are still no answers to so many questions that we have and we've not been given the truth.
02:40:24.000And that we're going to continue to search and support people that are out there asking the same kinds of questions and demanding the truth.
02:40:32.000Yeah, for us it's a loss that will never end.
02:40:36.000I mean, each day we feel the pain and the sadness from the loss of our daughter who is Very important in our lives and it's it doesn't you know we have moments where we can feel joy but the pain is always there it follows you around the sadness in our family we feel it whenever we have family get-togethers and family is very very important to us.
02:41:04.000We ask them how they feel five years after and this is what they answer.
02:41:12.000She was like a best friend as well as a daughter.
02:41:14.000And I know her and Bev were... She used to call her almost every day and tell her about what was going on in her life.
02:41:21.000I mean, it was... Even though she traveled all over the world, she was very, very connected with us.
02:41:28.000And still is, but... The loss is great.
02:41:34.000And the last words after the interview was these ones.
02:41:41.000We want to thank Mr. Rodriguez for all he's doing to bring out the truth because it's very important to us.
02:41:50.000In fact, I think we might just at the end of the show, in the last five minutes, re-air that with just you at the first, William, you know, asking three or four questions up front and then just playing it.
02:42:03.000Uh... there because that is that is so amazing another family going public another family who's been doing their own investigation went and heard your talk and then you know finally went public here obviously you've got that video are you going to be encoding that and and uh... and uh... putting it out.
02:42:19.000I will place it on my website in a day or two.
02:42:38.000William911.com and of course we've got links right now up on InfoWars.com to your main site there.
02:42:45.000Basically what we're going to do, we're going to re-edit everything.
02:42:48.000Actually I did a long interview because I'm going to many, many of the families and recording them on their views and also to support me on some of the things.
02:43:00.000I'm fighting a lot of the people out there that are attacking us.
02:43:03.000I'm putting together the support from the families and what you will see is one of the future release of another video that we are putting together that of course we're going to make available to you.
02:43:14.000You know I love the way you put that though.
02:43:15.000You say I'm putting the gloves on me and you're getting in the ring with them but I guess in Texas we say we're taking the gloves off but bottom line William Rodriguez is taking the gloves off.
02:43:27.000I'm fighting back and I'm fighting with all the strength that I can to expose these people, people that supported us in the beginning as well and then attacked us.
02:43:37.000I'm just going and just protecting, protecting what we're trying to do here.
02:43:42.000And what we have here also is a full... I want to talk about so many things, but they're confidential.
02:43:50.000So it looks like that's on for this week then?
02:44:14.000Well, you know, it's some mixed communications of what we're doing, but hopefully something will happen this week.
02:44:24.000Well, if I know this individual, we're going to see something sooner rather than later, because they just can't, you know, they're like us, they want to charge in.
02:44:33.000But the other thing is, like I said, I've seen a lot of activism.
02:44:38.000Tomorrow here in New Jersey, in the Journal Square area of Jersey City, there's going to be a huge, huge rally for the truth.
02:44:49.000It's going to go through three different stations from the Port Authority.
02:44:52.000And, uh, they are going to demonstrate there, so it starts at one o'clock in Journal Square, then they're going to go at three o'clock to Grove Street, and they're going to finish in, uh, an area called, uh, Exchange Place.
02:45:04.000This is, uh, all three places from the PATH station that belongs to the Port Authority of New York, and they are going to demand the truth to be told.
02:45:12.000So that's the big train that goes out of New Jersey into New York?
02:45:19.000Now, William, I mean, obviously this is why you're doing interviews with victims, but you didn't even know they'd be there.
02:45:26.000But that is really a good idea, to counter these neocons, is to make a whole film just with victims like yourself, and also heroes, saying, we know it's an inside job, we know it's an inside job, we know it's an inside job, but then I guess the Fox News and others will still just ignore that, but at least we can get it out to the people going, look, You know, the victims don't believe the official story.
02:45:47.000They know it's an inside job, many of them.
02:45:49.000Because, I mean, we talked about this last time you were on.
02:45:52.000It makes me sick at my stomach watching the very killers use those they killed and their families to make themselves look like heroes.
02:46:00.000But it's got to feel good to you now to see people fighting back like this family.
02:46:04.000And again, it's Joan Titus, and what's the husband's name?
02:46:39.000I have all the information, and not only that, we actually are going to put something big, uh, we are talking about 400 families, so we are- Oh my god.
02:46:48.000Yes, and that's some of the big news that we are putting, uh, on- Well, we cannot talk too much about it because, you know, the people of the powers that be will try to pre-empt whatever we are trying to do.
02:47:04.000That's why you have... I mean, I sent several emails to the people from O'Reilly and these both folks won't even have me on the show because he knows that I will go face-to-face with him and, you know, the first question that I will ask him, were you there?
02:47:44.000You know, and the other thing, I mean, a news aside was that I just read an article that says a professor who criticized Bush was added to terrorist no-fly list.
02:48:30.000I talked against the administration and what they have done to eliminate the civil rights and how they have used 9-11 as an agenda for propaganda, and they put me right there.
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02:52:53.000We'll post it with the questions that William did ask, that we even had a little computer slideshow we put together, so we'd know the questions.
02:53:03.000William, it's got to be encouraging though, because Gandhi did say that first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.
02:53:11.000And they are in the major attacking phase right now, and the truth is coming out, and time is on our side.
02:53:19.000Do you think they'll try to stage another 9-11 to smokescreen the fact that we're exposing them on the last attack they carried out?
02:53:28.000As we get closer to the truth, that's exactly what's going to happen.
02:53:32.000It's their modus operandi, and they need to basically bypass the attention of the world to something new.
02:53:41.000They need to keep people on their toes.
02:53:43.000And exactly what you said, they will need to stage something new.
02:53:49.000Now, you went down to Venezuela, and then just a few weeks after you guys were there and you talked to the head of the parliament and got your info to the president, he went public saying 9-11's an inside job.
02:53:59.000You know, we here in the U.S., the majority believe there's a cover-up, and the majority of that majority inside job.
02:54:04.000But overseas, you've been all over the world, from England to East Asia.
02:54:16.000Everybody's just like... In the tour, for example, the last two tours that I have done, I probably received from hundreds and hundreds of audiences that I presented the information only to dissenting voices.
02:54:45.000The bad guys have taken over America, and the bad guys always... You can go on for a long time, but sooner or later, God's going to cut you down.
02:54:53.000And I think they've gone... I know they've gone too far.
02:54:56.000Do you think, though, they're still full of hubris and arrogance and bravado?
02:55:00.000And, you know, are still macho about this, William Rodriguez?
02:55:03.000Or do you think the elite's starting to figure out they're in trouble?
02:55:07.000They know they're in trouble, but they're still keeping their machismo stance because they think that nobody can take them out.
02:55:18.000Because once we start identifying people and whistleblowers, the problem with the United States is that they effectively eliminated the Whistleblower Act.
02:55:27.000There is no way to protect anybody to come out publicly from the government and speak about crimes inside the administration.
02:55:36.000because they are going to be victimized.
02:55:38.000And what you have here is a person that will not be able to publicly say anything for fear of losing 20 years or 25 years of working in the government, their patient, their family benefits.
02:55:50.000They are not going to do that. - But now the costs are so high though, William, it's always great to have you on.
02:55:58.000And there may be some big news this week or next week, and you'll be the first to tell us about it, and we'll be here to let everybody know about what's going on, because we're privy to the same info.
02:56:07.000And so we'll be talking to you very, very soon, my friend.
02:56:09.000His film, his presentation, available at InfoWars.com.
02:56:14.000William Rodriguez, What Really Happened on 9-11.