Bilderberg is a secret meeting of the Bilderberg group, a group of wealthy and powerful people who come together to discuss a wide range of topics. The purpose of the meeting is to prepare the group for a future meeting where they will discuss their agenda for the future. This is a meeting that is taking place in Istanbul, Turkey.
00:00:46.000It's now all over the major Western newspapers, literally scores of them, from Istanbul to Texas, from New York to Miami, from London to Jakarta.
00:01:02.000Now confirming it is the Ritz-Carlton, the army, police, it's a big hotel up on a hill that is the Ritz-Carlton.
00:01:09.000They put this info by design in a local Turkish paper a few days ago, saying it was the Classus Hotel, who now are putting out articles saying we should worship the Bilderberg Group.
00:01:21.000Huge news on PrisonPlanet.com and JonesReport.com.
00:01:24.000We're gonna break here in just a minute or two and come back and do one more segment with you and let you get back to your important work pooling with reporters.
00:01:47.000We're going to break here in just a minute or two and come back and do one more segment with you and let you get back to your important work pooling with reporters.
00:02:13.000He opposed... Now, remember a little history here.
00:02:17.000Years and years ago, Bilderberg, the sons of smokestack industries, embraced, uh, Ecology, long before it's fashionable to be a treehugger, caused the potential for immense profits.
00:02:30.000Bush had rejected, altogether, the Kyoto Treaty, as he should have.
00:02:39.000I mean, Mexico would be exempt, so our factories could move down there without the burden of ecological demands, along with the low wages, and so forth.
00:02:49.000And they're saying that Bush has now surrendered to that?
00:03:17.000And so this is the big news out of Bilderberg, is that they're agreeing, the U.S.
00:03:21.000is now agreeing to get on board for the global tax, which of course is the carbon tax.
00:03:26.000That would be a follow-up that's always on their agenda, and it's been pending before the United Nations for at least three years, but the Americans who read their daily newspapers do not know that.
00:03:40.000So, it was their term, quote, surrender, quote, On that issue.
00:03:46.000But then, Bush is quietly, and that will have to surface even in the Ketz press sooner or later, but Bush is now quietly pushing the so-called Law of the Sea Treaty, which he has opposed.
00:04:03.000Clinton... Which will also be a global tax, for those that don't know, a global tax on all maritime activities and put the UN over 74% of the Earth's surface.
00:04:14.000Absolutely, and it would be a major surrender of sovereignty when the, well, some international group, obviously, under control of the U.N.
00:04:28.000Now remember, Clinton signed the Law of the Sea Treaty.
00:04:33.000Stay there, Jim Tucker, we're going to come right back with a final segment.
00:04:36.000This is the news he's getting from inside Bilderberg with his sources he gets every year with infiltrators.
00:04:42.000After the people that work in the hotel see the open evil, the open discussion of world government and total enslavement, he then gets the inside intel.
00:04:50.000Well, you're getting it here first from Jim Tucker, only on the GCN Radio Network.
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00:08:12.000Ladies and gentlemen, yesterday, Congressman Mon Paul, on this show, May 31st, yesterday, it's now June 1st, said that if Rick Perry went to Bilderberg, he hadn't yet seen the Dallas Morning News.
00:08:28.000He said that that does look like a violation of the Logan Act, which is criminal.
00:08:33.000It's a federal felony, punishable by large fines and prison time.
00:08:39.000He also said that it shows that he's definitely part of the quote, one world government conspiracy, the plan for a one world government, that he's part of the international conspiracy.
00:08:50.000And if you go up to PrisonPlanet.com and JonesReport.com and especially JonesReport.com, just unbelievable reporting there.
00:08:59.000He will see all of this and of course we also broke yesterday.
00:09:02.000I'm so proud of this and so honored that Jim broke this here that it is confirmed and they finally reported today that it is the Ritz Carlton there in Istanbul.
00:09:29.000And we got the SPP.gov documents through a FOIA request last year.
00:09:34.000Judicial Watch did and it said in there they were going to use global warming, hysteria, and fear They said use the fear to get a region-wide carbon tax.
00:09:46.000Going back to Jim Tucker, please continue on that point, sir, and you were also getting into some other points.
00:09:52.000Well, on the energy-related part, the U.S.
00:09:58.000was told to increase gasoline, to hike gasoline taxes.
00:10:06.000Enough to make the prices cost to exceed $4 a gallon at least.
00:10:13.000They prefer it to be about $5 a gallon.
00:10:16.000And that would be, of course, to reduce carbon monoxide emissions and make us all healthier, see?
00:10:26.000Now, before we laugh at this proposal with the boot of America paying record high gas taxes now, Adjusted for inflation.
00:10:41.000The Junior Barter and Tile Out Commission meeting in San Francisco called for an increase in gasoline taxes, a federal gas tax increase of 10 cents a gallon.
00:10:52.000Shocking to most Americans at that time because that was one of those get in line and wait for gas at sky high prices time.
00:11:05.000So, you'd think offhand that they politically could not do that.
00:11:10.000Now, the Tridental Commission meeting ended with farewells on a Monday morning.
00:11:16.000All the work done, they tell each other goodbye on Monday morning, and head for the airport.
00:11:22.000On Tuesday, the Bilderberg-controlled Washington Post, in its editorial, not some op-ed column, the columnist giving his opinion, but the official position of the Bilderberg-controlled Washington Post, On Tuesday, an editorial called for a gas tax increase of ten cents a gallon, and it came to pass.
00:11:54.000Now, before the break, Jim, you were trying to get into Bill Clinton.
00:11:56.000You were saying, remember Bill Clinton in connection with the Law of the Sea Treaty, which allows the UN to seize 70 plus percent of the Earth's surface, of course being the oceans and seas of the world, and inland seas, and being able to levy taxes and have paramilitary global coast guards running around controlling everyone.
00:12:16.000This is a massive grab, just like the Pentagon has claimed total dominance and ownership of space.
00:12:23.000In fact, that's an official position of our government is ownership of the entire universe now.
00:12:28.000They've told any other government they can't get up there.
00:12:30.000This is all for dominance and control.
00:12:32.000You know, nobody cared when Spain claimed the new world for themselves, along with Portugal, but that certainly meant something down the line.
00:12:39.000Now with society being accelerated and everything happening, instead of over a hundred years, you know, the change that happened in a hundred years is now happening in a year.
00:12:47.000This is very, very serious to anyone who's going to be alive in just ten years.
00:12:51.000So please get back in the law of the sea, sir.
00:12:53.000What's the intel you're getting from inside Bilderberg?
00:12:56.000Well, remember that Reagan did outfit with humor and would not sign off on it.
00:13:06.000Bush in the original, even though he was under Bilderberg control, did not dare push it too hard in his term, and Bill Clinton signed it and told us how wonderful it would be.
00:13:19.000Of course, Bill Clinton was annoyed by Bilderberg when he attended their meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany in 1991, and he tells us what a wonderful thing it would be.
00:13:29.000So the Senate had a test vote, they call it, on ratification, and it was rejected 95-0.
00:13:36.000So Clinton pulled back his request for ratification for political reasons, obviously, on the treaty he had signed off on.
00:13:46.000That was before the 9-11 police state agenda where 9-11 is used to do absolutely anything and everything, and that was before the fake man-made global warming hysteria where we've got to turn everything over the UN and man eating meat and and and and it was a start restricting people to one family one child that's all being called for right now The Chinese model is the New World Order model.
00:14:12.000Jim Tucker, any other key tidbits you're getting from your sources inside Bilderberg?
00:14:19.000Domestically, That's about it, but the fact that Little Bush is going to embrace the Law of the Sea Treaty is something that will have to emerge in the fullness of time in the cut press also, but you heard it here first.
00:14:39.000And of course you heard it here first that they were not going to attack Iraq in 2002, as the Washington Post said they were, and as the media unanimously said it was going to be in 2003.
00:14:48.000We heard it here first from you, Jim, on the Berlin Wall was going to fall on a staged event.
00:14:53.000We heard it here first on every single issue.
00:15:47.000I'm told the Senate's... It's wonderful, this breakthrough, because you know as well as I do about the near total blackout we've had in the United States.
00:15:56.000The European newspapers and broadcasters have had a lot of fun.
00:16:00.000I've had very few moments today where I'm not staring into somebody's camera and yacking away.
00:16:16.000So, I mean, literally 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago it didn't exist.
00:16:20.000Then last year in Canada, because they arrested me and a few other things, it blew up nationally there, but it never really been in our press.
00:16:27.000Now, for the first time, Jim, And again, you get most of the credit on this.
00:16:32.000Do you think they're happy about this?
00:16:34.000Oh, they've got their dickers in, and not to be sure, because their salad years have been, they could be absolutely secret until now their very existence.
00:16:46.000And they're doing everything stupidly, perhaps, to Trying to suppress coverage like the lie they planted in that newspaper story we talked about yesterday.
00:16:55.000Six paragraphs deep inside the paper, very polite, and saying that it was going to be a classic resort.
00:17:04.000Well, there's also big Turkish papers saying, big deal, so they're world leaders meeting.
00:17:09.000The point is they tried to keep it secret all these years.
00:17:17.000Jim, what type of security did you see outside of the Ritz Carlton?
00:17:23.000Typical, tremendous show of uniformed police, all of course armed, surrounding the whole hill.
00:17:33.000Of course, many of them at the front gate, but then you don't take three steps without a couple of cops confronting you as you walk all the way around that hill.
00:18:02.000But so far, they've tried to keep the list secret.
00:18:07.000But we've got just got all of them accounted for.
00:18:11.000And they may end up putting on a website, say Monday, just to Get rid of the questions and all that jazz, but I'll bet you we've identified people that they will not put on that website that were confirmed by, their presence was confirmed by our site.
00:18:29.000By that you mean there's always people on, who are there who aren't on the list?
00:18:33.000How big is this to have Rick Perry, by the way, who's embroiled, a Bilderberg member by the way, has been indicted in connection to literally the biggest a takeover of government and private owned power plants in Texas.
00:18:48.000It's powering much of the surrounding states.
00:19:07.000I mean, is it that they're positioning him for president later?
00:19:10.000Or is this more that he's just one of their gangsters?
00:19:13.000Well, first of all, as I mentioned yesterday, they would consider him a potential president, a useful tool and fool in the future, and that he would not be invited next year if they decide to throw that shoe away, because about 110 to 115 of the Bilderberg are the regulars, typically there's five or so newcomers, most of whom are not invited back.
00:19:41.000But they had to see some potential for him to be there, too, to invite him.
00:19:45.000Jim, I tell you what, we're scheduled to have eight reporters on.
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00:24:21.000Waiting in the wings, we have American filmmakers Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer, also Romanian filmmaker Paul Duranu, and Daniel Estelan coming up later.
00:24:39.000Jim, you said there's so much more And obviously, when you get back to town, we'll do a full hour and debrief you properly, and American Free Press is going to have photos and articles about it, so is PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
00:24:52.000But just in closing, before I go to these other reporters, Jim, I want to thank you for coming on.
00:24:55.000I want to thank you for your 30-plus years of covering this, 29 years physically covering it, or is it 35, covering it total.
00:25:03.000You said there was a whole other European side.
00:25:06.000Give us just a taste of some of the things that you're going to be writing about, some of the things you've learned from your sources.
00:25:12.000Well, you've been reading about the Turkish troops massing on the border with Iraq to invade the Kurds in Iraq.
00:25:23.000The Turkish, Billerberg said, there is no massing of our troops on the border with Iraq and there will be no invasion of the Kurds.
00:25:33.000In Iraq... Well, they're always having Kurds engaging in incursions, so they've always got troops there.
00:25:41.000Yeah, but he said the newspaper was all wrong about the bashing of the border and the potential invasion.
00:25:48.000Another Kurd said that... I mean, another Turk said that he'd like to be portrayed as begging to enter the European Union and pointed out that a lot of Turks are opposed to the European Union because they'd have to surrender too much sovereignty and there's so many nationalists.
00:26:10.000Well, nationalists, which is their synonym for patriots, are demeaned by Bill O'Brien.
00:26:18.000To be a nationalist, a patriotic to your own country, you're horrible.
00:26:23.000So they've had that little kind of interchange to The Europeans support the invasion of Iraq, but still, I mean, of Afghanistan.
00:26:35.000Jim, what about Bush now saying he wants to bring UN troops and hand it over to I-4?
00:26:40.000Hasn't that been on the Bilderberg plate the last few years to kind of let the U.S. play the bad cop and the UN later comes in as the savior?
00:27:15.000It's overlooking the nearby Ritz Carlton.
00:27:18.000We now go, we're about to break, but I want to go ahead and introduce them to Andrew, Neil, and Luke Meyer, and they're in a hotel room filled with other reporters.
00:27:34.000Well, it's been pretty wild, you know.
00:27:37.000We got here on Tuesday, Jim got here on Wednesday.
00:27:40.000We came here to follow Jim's Jim's a journey, and we've been with him pretty much every waking moment of the day when he's been on the move, and it's been pretty incredible.
00:27:52.000Like, there's cops following him, and when we went over to the Ritz, it cordoned off the entire area.
00:27:59.000With riot gear and things kind of roped up with barricades so you can't go on the sidewalk.
00:28:05.000There were some guys with, like, submachine guns and stuff, and you couldn't even get close to it.
00:28:11.000Yeah, no, for Luke and I, we'd never seen anything like this, so for us, it was kind of mind-blowing.
00:29:03.000Yeah, there's like three entrances that, you know, different people are going in, but you couldn't, we couldn't, we didn't see any, we weren't able to get any clear shots of anyone in particular.
00:29:11.000Now, is this Andrew or Luke I'm talking to?
00:29:19.000Um, so anyway, you know, that, we kind of left with Jim, and then, um, and then, uh, well, there's another filmmaker here, uh, Paul, that's sitting in the wing, too.
00:29:27.000Yeah, we're going to talk to him on the other side, but stay there.
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00:32:55.000sixty-one that's eight eight eight two one six twenty four sixty one do it today he's the t-rex of political talk alex jones on the gcn radio network defending the republic from enemies foreign and domestic I want to thank my producer, Trey Kincaid, and also my wife's been doing producing, Violet Jones.
00:33:23.000I want to thank everybody who's been joining us, Jim Tucker, Aaron Dykes for the stories he's been doing, Paul Watson, Steve Watson, Ryan Slickheisen, everybody on the crew for doing such a fabulous job, Mike Nelson, the list goes on and on.
00:33:42.000Going back to Istanbul, we're talking to American Documentary Filmmaking Crew, who are making a film, I guess, about people that cover these type of events.
00:33:52.000Great guys, they called a few months ago, I never got back with them, like everybody else I don't get back with, but now I'm definitely getting with them here on air, and it's Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer.
00:34:01.000They're in Istanbul, we really appreciate their work, and they're in a hotel room with Romanian filmmaker Paul Duranu, I believe that's the right way to pronounce it, and we're just again very thankful to have them there with us from Istanbul.
00:34:14.000Gentlemen, give us the lay of the land, what your trip was like getting over there, how the papers first reported that it was the classes to divert everybody, now that same paper's putting out disinfo pieces worshipping Bilderberg about how good they are, and then just basically what you witnessed, how the riot police were dressed, Some of the physical things that you saw, because I know you're not really doing a thing on Bilderberg, you're doing it on people who cover Bilderberg.
00:34:40.000But I think now, is this kind of convincing you about the wickedness of Bilderberg?
00:34:46.000One of the most interesting things, I think, for Luke and I, and I guess Jim was talking about it some too, is that in America, you hear very little about these issues.
00:35:55.000Yeah, well, there's an energy to it here as well.
00:35:59.000I think obviously some of the regulars that come from the United States or other parts of Europe probably weren't able to make it because of the travel expense, you know?
00:36:08.000But there was a lot of buzz about it, and every day at 4, Jim is mobbed at his hotel.
00:36:16.000I mean, he's practically like a celebrity here.
00:36:19.000And then we're running around after him, too.
00:36:22.000There's kind of a bit of a circus running around after Jim.
00:36:25.000He's probably not as covert as he might be, but he still goes to meet his sources by himself.
00:36:30.000Now, who are you guys making your film for?
00:36:32.000Because this is something I definitely want to carry when it comes out.
00:36:36.000We're an independent production company, so we're trying to acquire funding for it.
00:36:42.000We're getting going, trying to make a promo or whatever.
00:36:45.000You know, basically the film is about the people who are trying to bring the New World Order concept into the mainstream.
00:36:52.000Our producer, Tom Davis, who worked on some of our other films, started talking to Luke and I about it, and we didn't know that much about it.
00:37:01.000We got kind of interested in it, and then started surfing the web and stuff.
00:37:07.000I'm interested because you guys obviously came to this as virgins to it all.
00:37:32.000Yeah, Luke, pop in and give us your take on all this.
00:37:35.000Well, I mean, I just, all I know is really what I'm seeing right now and that's how full force the police is out to anyone.
00:37:45.000And it makes you wonder why things are that way.
00:37:52.000Yeah, the secretive stuff certainly isn't very, it doesn't give you a whole lot of confidence and, you know, I mean, Well, I mean, here's the deal.
00:38:00.000We know that the New York Times and Washington Post heads have been going to Bilderberg for at least, well, since its founding in the 50s.
00:38:08.000And then I can show you multiple articles where they say in the past it didn't exist.
00:38:13.000And you're insane if you say it exists.
00:38:15.000That proves it's nefarious right there.
00:38:17.000Then we get their minutes out of the meetings.
00:38:20.000They literally created the European Union.
00:38:23.000They ran the whole deal with Prince Bernhard and the royalty out of England.
00:38:27.000They ran the entire My point is, is that there's no way to be neutral on this.
00:38:36.000It'd be like being filmmakers and either you're for Hitler or you're against Hitler.
00:38:40.000You know, you're either for Stalin or you're against Stalin.
00:38:42.000And I understand you're trying to make an objective film about the movement and let people decide on their own.
00:38:55.000Yeah, well, we're just, we're really at the very beginning of our stages of getting to know this, and we're trying to get to know it through our characters, you know, but in my opinion, you know, there's a lot of unanswered questions that over the course of the next year, you know, I would hope I would get the answer to some of those.
00:39:09.000And really, you know, for me as a filmmaker, and I don't know if you agree with me, but like, we're just really interested by, you know, basically you guys, you know, and the amount of work and effort I'm finishing endgame in the next month and a half.
00:39:25.000Because no one was talking about it, you know, even five years ago, and there's been a small group of people that have been talking about it.
00:39:32.000Well, listen, I'm finishing Endgame in the next month and a half.
00:39:36.000If you guys want to come to Austin, Texas, and I've literally got selected.
00:39:41.000I mean, I know you tried to contact me a few months ago.
00:39:43.000I never got back with it because I'm flooded.
00:39:45.000But come to Austin, and if you want to do some limited footage swap, because I'm going to do an update in the film before I finish it, just about how Perry went.
00:39:54.000Probably two minutes of my film that, oh by the way, in 2007, Perry went.
00:39:58.000But if you guys want any of my footage from last year, I'd be happy to swap it.
00:40:01.000But it's got to be quick if we're going to do it, because Endgame's almost done.
00:40:04.000But yeah, you guys turn around and get down there.
00:40:07.000We'll be back early next week, so maybe we can get in touch with you then.
00:40:10.000Yeah, basically, I've got Pitcher Lockheed in one month.
00:40:13.000And then I've got to have Graham Reynolds do the music.
00:40:23.000And, you know, Terror Storm was the next level.
00:40:25.000This is going to be the next level after that.
00:40:27.000But the point is, you've got to rush down and get a few selects of Jim being mobbed or the police, and then I'll be glad to give you guys quite a bit of my footage, because I'm all about getting the information out.
00:40:39.000But that aside, anything else you want to add before I get the Romanian filmmaker who's waiting on the wings on?
00:40:48.000Yeah, I mean, just one thing, you know, maybe Alex, you could give us some recommendations and we'd love to talk to you too, but, you know, we're looking for more people.
00:40:55.000You know, Jim is obviously the oldest guy, but we're looking for younger guys who are also in the movement.
00:41:01.000Daniel Estolan, but you know, of course, he's got a sick family member.
00:41:52.000Not sure of the flight time, but sometime on Monday we'll be flying back.
00:41:55.000Okay, well then that means I'll have to have you on Tuesday or Wednesday.
00:41:58.000Let me just have my producer call you when this interview's over to make sure I've got all your contact points, not just there at the hotel.
00:42:37.000Tell us about what you witnessed there and what your film is about.
00:42:40.000Well, I checked first thing in the morning the classic photo because Jim Tucker had thought that that might be The actual site for the board meeting and I went there and there's nothing.
00:42:53.000I also was asked by the lady in the lobby to go to the Classes Golf and Country Club which is like 10 miles north from there and I checked there but still nothing there.
00:43:05.000So everything happens at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel where like the other guys said basically it's packed with policemen, armed guards, securities, Actually, I managed to get stills and video shots with people on the roof of a side of a building where there were securities, military men with binoculars that were looking at me, and even civilians.
00:43:34.000There were groups of people talking there on the roof.
00:43:39.000And basically, I think we can get later.
00:43:44.000Uh, look at the pictures on the computer and see more details of what I got.
00:43:50.000Pictures are now starting to come out online on different websites, different Turkish newspapers of the usual suspects, David Rockefeller and others.
00:43:58.000Have you been able to see Texas Governor Rick Perry yet?
00:44:03.000I haven't been able to see anyone actually, but only got pictures of a black limo who entered the second gate, which is the gate on the street, which is blocked.
00:44:16.000So I think from this point of view, the Ritz-Carlton site is perfect for that situation because Nobody can actually get very close to the main entry.
00:45:41.000Okay, well we'll be watching that Sunday and we'll do a report on it, sir.
00:45:47.000I mean, describe... I was hearing that there are riot police out there.
00:45:53.000Yeah, there's lots of police and what I understand that they actually were afraid of riots because I understand that people, Turkish people, do easily get together and start riots and Uh, big meetings.
00:46:10.000Uh, actually, there was, uh, a couple of days ago, a meeting, uh, in a square near the Rich Carlton Hotel from an organization, I don't know the name, uh, something like, uh, Global Peace, and, uh, um, I don't remember exactly the name, but, uh... Oh, that's major news!
00:46:27.000You're... Now, now, now, state that again.
00:46:30.000Exactly what happened at the Rich Carlton?
00:46:31.000You're saying it was some type of protest?
00:46:34.000Yeah, there was a small protest, not at Ritz Carlton, but in a square near Ritz Carlton, not very far, like under one mile.
00:47:18.000What inspired you to cover Bilderberg?
00:47:22.000Well, I think the same thing as you do.
00:47:26.000I want people to find out about this stuff.
00:47:30.000Lots of people do not believe Bilderberg exists.
00:47:34.000And it's a way where I can actually prove that they do exist, that there's something going on.
00:47:42.000If I can describe this Bilderberg meeting is similar to a conference that has taken place in Bucharest in Romania in September.
00:47:50.000That is, the francophonic meeting where, like, presidents and ministers from a lot of countries, at least a couple of dozen countries, countries that do speak French, came to Bucharest.
00:48:07.000So basically the Parliament building where was the meeting was sealed off, all the streets around it, lots of policemen, snipers on the buildings, and so on.
00:48:19.000Is this a free society with elites meeting in secret and our politicians present themselves like vegetables or fruit at a fruit stand to be squeezed on and smelled and examined to see which person they want to buy or back?
00:48:33.000I mean, there's no doubt there's... No, no, clearly it's not a free society.
00:48:40.000We should know about what they are talking there, because they are going there on our expenses.
00:48:45.000They are public figures, which are elected by us, so we have to know what's happening there.
00:48:54.000I said public figures that were elected, not everyone is elected, because let's consider Barroso, which is the President of the European Commission, which is not elected by name.
00:49:08.000Deborah Rosso was just over here a few weeks ago with Bush, openly announcing a merger of the EU and the American Union.
00:49:14.000It was on C-SPAN, and we read an article about it, and people couldn't even grasp how big it was.
00:49:19.000I mean, when I say a story is big, folks, it's big.
00:49:22.000And this stuff is just happening right out in the open, America and the world.
00:49:26.000Sovereignty is dying, not with a bang, but with a whimper.
00:49:29.000Well listen, we're going to watch your site, sir, and we'll get a report out on your photos as soon as that's okay.
00:49:36.000And is it alright with you when we link to your site?
00:49:39.000Because your site might crash if we send 5 million people there.
00:49:42.000Is it okay if we go ahead and post your photos on prisonplanet.com?
00:50:18.000We can just go to your site and contact you that way.
00:50:20.000Then we will send you your contact, uh, our contact info, and it's great working with you, and God bless you, and I look forward to interviewing you.
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00:54:05.000It's Alex Jones, only on the GCN Radio Network.
00:54:11.000Live from Istanbul, ladies and gentlemen, we've interviewed Jim Tucker, we've interviewed Andrew Neal, Luke Meyer, Paul Durananu from Romania, Daniel Estilans has a family member on death's doorstep, but he has still got great contacts inside, he's the Most informed on Bilderberg and covering for 15 years.
00:54:32.000He's going to be with us in the next hour.
00:54:33.000We're about to go to him in about 60 seconds.
00:54:35.000But just saying bye to Andrew Neal and Luke Meyer.
00:54:38.000Gentlemen, American filmmakers, were you able to see any of the Bilderberg group or is there just too much security this year?
00:54:46.000Uh, we were not able to see really anyone because the barricades are so far away.
00:54:51.000But Jim was saying something about how they let them in, like, I think they, like, tried to stagger it and stuff so you couldn't, like, so you couldn't see, you know?
00:55:00.000There's no helipad, there's no, like, uh, motorcade of cars going in, there's just... And we were, we were usually with Jim, but there were a couple that, like, Paul, for instance, that was just on was out there, you know, all day.
00:55:20.000couple pictures and um i think you touch base with paul and hopefully they'll be able to get you some stuff that you can use absolutely i want to thank you gentlemen for the great job you've been doing and i appreciate it and i look forward to debriefing you next week we'll talk then okay cool thanks so much alex take care and god bless all right now going to daniel estalon and coming up in the next hour folks i've got huge reports of my own with rick perry and massive
00:55:44.000This stuff, violating the Logan Act, Bilderberg group members that are under indictment that Perry's involved with in business.
00:56:07.000I'm sad you can't be there, but you are still on the phone, you're on the internet, you've got the sources, you've got huge news on Zolocal.
00:56:26.000delegation ...is standing unanimously behind Robert Zoellick's candidacy as an ex-president of the World Bank.
00:56:33.000Now, Zoellick is a 53-year-old Wall Street executive.
00:56:36.000He's a former administration official and a free market fundamentalist.
00:56:40.000Now, during the Bill of Rights meeting yesterday, he pledged to work to restore confidence in the bank.
00:56:45.000Now, he said, we need to put our differences aside and focus on the future together.
00:56:49.000I believe, Zoellick said, that the World Bank's best days are still to come.
00:56:53.000Now, the chances of Zollig not being approved for the chair of the World Act presidency are slim to none.
00:56:59.000The final decision is to be made by the end of June by the bank's 24-member board of directors.
00:57:03.000Now, the United States and Europe have a tacit agreement between them that the bank's president should always be a U.S. national, while its sister institution, the International Monetary Fund, is headed by a European.
00:57:15.000Now, nevertheless, according to a source at the conference, European Bilderbergers are not at all pleased, Alex, with continuing the status quo in which the U.S.
00:57:24.000nominates a single candidate after informal consultation with the bank members.
00:57:28.000The nomination also appears to short-circuit burgeoning calls for reform of this selection process at the bank, one of the cornerstones of a global financial architecture as designed by the According to our sources at the conference, one Belgian Bilderberger proposed what he said, a merit-based selection process without regard to nationality, something which will obviously be discarded by the inept Bush administration.
00:57:53.000What is rather quite remarkable is that on several occasions, European Bilderbergers have openly rejected the current model, saying that the nomination reeks of double standards, especially because the United States and the World Bank preach accountability and transparency to developing countries as the main clients especially because the United States and the World Bank preach accountability and transparency
00:58:12.000But with the International Monetary Fund, under the control of a Spaniard, the European Central Bank, under control of a Frenchman, it's very difficult to imagine that the United States would give up control of the World Bank.
00:58:24.000Only the United States Federal Reserve would remain in the hands of the Americans.
00:59:20.000We had four different reporters and journalists on, including Jim Tucker, in the last hour from The Bilderberg meeting covering it in Istanbul, Turkey, formerly Constantinople.
01:00:12.000And there's all these other people involved as well.
01:00:15.000Going back to Daniel Estolán, please continue with that analysis you were going over, sir.
01:00:19.000Well, it's funny Alex, you should say that you were informed of Zelik's dangers to the international community ten years ago.
01:00:26.000I too was told by people who are close to the deliver community that Zelik's name also raises eyebrows among development groups.
01:00:36.000For his close ties to the Yes Establishment as well as his relationship to the corporate interests.
01:00:41.000One of the attendees at the Bilderberg Conference, and I have not had the confirmation as to who this individual is, asked Zolbek how he was planning to patch up relationships with third and fourth world nations when he is best remembered during his tenure as United States Trade Representative for arm-twisting poor nations' governments to adhere to United States-imposed intellectual property laws that make medicines, for example, unaffordable to the developing world.
01:01:06.000Uh, Zola didn't say anything, which again, rhetorical questions.
01:01:12.000Now, he has been also a close friend to the brand-name pharmaceutical industry and the bilateral trade agreements he has negotiated effectively block access to genetic medication for millions of people, meaning basically that millions of people will die because they do not have access to cheap medicine.
01:01:28.000Which goes back to the population control agenda, correct?
01:01:32.000However, what has really riled up both the American and European delegates is the fact that the World Bank's dirty linen is being washed in public, thanks in great part to Paul Wolfowitz's ineptness, which, incidentally, Wolfowitz has blamed on the American press.
01:01:47.000Now, I'd like to go over a little bit for your audiences, exactly explain what the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank stand for, what they are, because I think a lot of people think that they're good institutions that are supposed to be helping humanity, when in fact they've done more damage to the human race than any other financial institution in history, if I may.
01:02:07.000Alright, now it's widely but mistakenly believed that the purpose of the World Bank, controlled by the United States Federal Reserve and the International Monetary Fund, of which the United States is the principal donor and the only nation with the veto power, is to encourage development and relieve poverty in the third world.
01:02:23.000But in practice, these organizations have added to the impoverishment and destitutions of millions through the loan scheme called the Structural Adjustment Programs, SAPs, that have succeeded in adding to the country's burden of debt and stagnation.
01:02:36.000Now, the obvious result of the SAPs from the World Bank and the IMF is that the money lent to the destitute nations were used to make immediate interest payments to Western banking institutions, something that both Jim Tucker and I have been saying for years.
01:02:50.000Furthermore, by ordering third world economies to focus on production for export purposes, the World Bank and the IMF channeled over almost $200 billion of third world financial resources in the 1980s and early 1990s into a servicing dollar denominated for debt.
01:03:06.000Obviously, that doesn't help the third world economies.
01:03:09.000Now, these programs are being implemented in over 73rd world countries from Nigeria to Jamaica, from Hungary to Ethiopia, Kenya, Ghana, etc, etc.
01:03:19.000And they're subjected to 566 IMF and World Bank stabilization and SAP's.
01:03:25.000Daniel, final segment with you when we get back.
01:03:28.000By the way, folks, they're raping the 3rd world, now they're subdividing the assets of the United States, treating us like a 3rd world nation.
01:03:36.000We are now on the chopping block, stay with us.
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01:08:55.000African states unable to compete with Western multinationals They've been forced to withdraw from the health sector as part of the free market economy.
01:09:02.000Now, again, it goes back to what you were saying about the Malthus, about the population reduction, etc.
01:09:07.000Now, this has put African children at the mercy of unscrupulous international organizations And pharmaceutical transnational corporations who are thus at liberty to use them as guinea pigs for testing various drugs and vaccines.
01:09:20.000Now, on a case in point, in January 2001, the U.S.-based pharmaceutical, PNC-Pfizer, used an experimental drug on about 50,000 children suffering from meningitis in Kano, Nigeria, without official authorization.
01:09:33.000As a result of the epidemic, almost 15,000 people died, while many others became deaf and blind.
01:09:39.000Needless to say, we haven't heard about it, In the United States, nor have we heard about it in Europe.
01:09:44.000But just a couple of other items on the agenda, which we're following from the Bilderberg Conference, about the European relations with Russia, is, needless to say, the key sticking point, not only in Europe, but also in Central Asia.
01:09:55.000We'll have a complete report on that next week, once the conference is finished, with Moscow making a deal... And Daniel, let me stop you right there.
01:10:02.000Now, you graciously let us post all your stuff at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com, but tell folks the address for your fabulous news site.
01:10:17.000Today, by the way, Alex, the Turkish edition of my Bilibur book is out.
01:10:21.000And on the 1st of September, the American edition of the true story of the Bilibur will be out in the United States.
01:10:27.000Needless to say, I'll be there to promote it.
01:10:30.000It's already published in what, 24 countries?
01:10:33.000It's published in 42 countries in 24 languages.
01:10:36.000It has sold a million and a half copies worldwide.
01:10:40.000So a lot of people need us to say it's not nearly as popular as American Idol, but we have enough people and we don't need a lot.
01:10:46.000We just need 3% of the American population.
01:10:48.000That was my next question for you, 3% won the Revolutionary War.
01:10:51.000I want to give you the bottom line from you, the globalist strategy to try to bring down the US, the last piece in their puzzle.
01:11:00.000You talked about it last year, how important it is for them to get this amnesty.
01:11:05.000uh... to to to finally bring in the new world order with the North American Union and what you see the key things are we need to do as people of the world against our enemies only a couple hundred of them and what they're going to try well one of the key things we need to understand is how money works that's one of the things that one of the bankers who actually is a member of a billboard club and an intimate friend of mine he told me if you want to do something about these people you cannot stand up shoulder to shoulder with others Pick up a gun or an arm and try to fight them.
01:11:36.000What you need to do is to understand how money works.
01:11:38.000And once you understand how money works for you, you can actually do something against these people.
01:11:43.000Because what we're doing by putting money into major financial institutions, we're feeding the monster who sooner or later will destroy us.
01:11:50.000So what we need to do, as he told me, is to take the money out of the bank and take the power of the money away from these people.
01:11:58.000And that is actually the anathema to what most people believe, because everybody thinks that the bank is the safest place to keep one's money.
01:12:04.000Take the money out of the bank, convert it to gold, convert it to silver.
01:12:08.000Don't give these people the power to destroy us.
01:12:46.000And I think unless people realize what is going on, this thing is The North American Free Trade Agreement, which was actually put into practice in the early 1990s, talked in clear details about how this whole thing was going towards North American Union, and you could see 10 years or 15 years later how we're almost there.
01:13:04.000But again, I think there's still time for us to wake up, and this General Awakening hopefully will have enough reason for the people who actually stand Together and present this thing for action.
01:13:49.000What are they saying in the Dallas Morning News?
01:13:50.000Okay, the Dallas Morning News is talking about how the Governor Rick Perry went over there and how it's a super secret meeting and it's been on television.
01:13:56.000I'm going to play a TV clip here in a minute.
01:13:58.000And other reports are admitting that the world's elite are meeting in secret.
01:14:24.000But again, I think the interlock mechanisms that these people actually need to bring about their new world order, I think it's in place.
01:14:33.000It's just a question of how quickly they can organize it.
01:14:35.000Because again, one of the key issues is the power of money.
01:14:39.000As long as we have the money, we more or less are free.
01:14:42.000As soon as they destroy the economy, and that's one of the things that they've been talking about in Europe, Bringing the world, you were talking about Barroso a few minutes ago.
01:14:49.000Now, Barroso, a few months back when they were presenting, unveiling the new European energy policy, talked about it's time to bring the world into the post-industrial age.
01:14:59.000Now, when I heard that phrase, Alex, I almost fell off my chair.
01:15:03.000That's what you talk about in Endgame.
01:16:23.000And now they're using those very people who I want to be free, instead of having a revolution in Mexico, they're using them to slit the throat of America, Daniel.
01:16:31.000Needless to say, Mexico, as an even-handed trading partner of the United States, is a great benefit to the United States and to Mexico.
01:16:38.000But it's much better to have Mexico as a slave working as a third world wages.
01:16:44.000Exactly, instead of us working together to overthrow the government of Mexico that's corrupt, and to get our government back, here in the U.S.
01:16:51.000Again, I'm talking about that as a microcosm.
01:16:54.000You wrote about how they do use the Muslim extremists, how the Bilderberg Group is behind them, because, again, it's a destabilizer for the Middle East.
01:17:31.000The fact that Barroso, the President of the European Commission a few months back, actually showed his hand.
01:17:36.000If you're in a poker game, you show your hand because no matter what the other one has, You can always win.
01:17:41.000And what they've done a few months back is they actually showed their hand by saying that it's time to bring the world into the post-industrial age.
01:17:48.000Now this is the first time, I think, in history that they've openly admitted what they've actually been trying to do.
01:17:53.000And they're going to do that with a new carbon tax, which means one child policy, no more meat.
01:18:02.000When you hear carbon tax, oh, let's ban the light bulbs.
01:18:04.000See, that sounds reasonable, but it's once they've set that precedent, folks, it's total feudalism, micromanagement of your life under new environmental laws.
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01:23:27.000I think it's very, very important that people understand that.
01:23:30.000They exist, they meet, and then what they decide is executed on the world stage annually.
01:23:35.000And as most of the things that are actually decided are very, very short term, because there is no long term, I think we can actually see the things that I say, the things that Jim Tucker says, things that you do.
01:23:44.000People can, we don't need to go 800 years into the future.
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01:24:07.000I think we do have a chance, but the thing is that these people are slightly ahead of us.
01:24:11.000They started about 500 years ago, shortly after the Treaty of Florence was signed, which established the idea of nation-states.
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01:25:04.000As long as we can stop watching American Idol and whatever else is out there, which has a lot to do with dumbing down of society and very little to do with the idea of freedom.
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01:32:24.000A constitutional populist is the term I would use to best describe Dr. Paul, Veteran Ron Paul, Congressman Ron Paul, Grandfather Ron Paul, Husband Ron Paul, Patriot Ron Paul, who's got a perfect conservative voting record, literal founding father material.
01:33:25.000Just out of the gates, what is most important to Congressman Ron Paul and presidential candidate Ron Paul?
01:33:31.000Well, of course, the exciting thing is that the message has caught on.
01:33:35.000I think one of the more interesting things about Who's responding?
01:33:39.000And it's the younger generation, which I think is good news for the country.
01:33:44.000You know, it's the younger generation that is bearing the burden.
01:33:48.000They're starting to recognize what we're dumping on them, whether it's the war in the Middle East, whether it's our foreign policy, whether it's an entitlement system we can't pay for, our financial system, the monetary system.
01:34:00.000Besides, they like their privacy, which is delightful.
01:34:03.000So I never dreamed that the young people would respond so well to somebody that does not exactly identify with a lot of young people you know socially and with music and things that but it's the idea of freedom that if if i'm willing and to present the case for allowing these young people to have their way and not put a burden on them all of a sudden they have become very excited about what's happening i gotta bring this up because i've probably gotten i don't know 500 600
01:34:30.000i don't know emails 50 calls on air i mean it's all All I know is it's a lot.
01:34:49.000You know, in everything you do, but obviously the new old order does not smile on people in the past who are actually making a run at their throat.
01:34:58.000I think if you do win the nomination, let's be honest, I think you are going to be in danger sir.
01:35:06.000I think we're at a point right now where they're still hoping I will go away, but the fact that they've started to attack me means that we are annoying them to say the least.
01:35:16.000But I'm still working on the assumption that my automobile may well be a lot more dangerous than me being attacked.
01:35:22.000But like you say, if we get a little bit closer to really achieving success in the political sense, then I think there's reason to be concerned and to be alert.
01:35:33.000Well, they went after George Washington.
01:35:37.000They've gone after a lot of people that are patriots.
01:35:40.000And George Wallace, who wasn't exactly in our camp, but he sort of resented the establishment, and they finally did something with him, too.
01:36:11.000So yes, they will be very determined, but I think right now they're going to just Try to ridicule and to, you know, make me a fringe candidate.
01:36:25.000Coming into the debate, I know you've been pretty public about your strategy, liberty, freedom, less government, constitutional principles.
01:36:32.000In the next debate, I talked to Aaron Russo.
01:36:40.000You don't need our advice, but what about going after him about the dust?
01:36:44.000which he helped cover up, which they now admit, you know, major medical institutions that it's hurting their lungs, the asbestos, the concrete, the glass.
01:36:51.000What about going after Giuliani on saying he's a hero of 9-11, as he did last time with you, when in major polls and articles, the firefighters and police unanimously pretty much hate his guts?
01:37:04.000Well the likelihood of me initiating that in a debate where time is so limited and that takes a little bit of explanation, I'm not likely to.
01:37:12.000The fact that he made a charge which was unbelievable that he had never heard our side of the story about how our foreign policy could contribute to our dislike of American government overseas, that was astounding.
01:37:29.000So we did go after him, but I thought in a dignified fashion to point out to some very, very credible CIA agents who people that I've read and studied before supported my position.
01:37:43.000So I will continue to do that to try to point out when they overstepped their bounds.
01:37:48.000But I just don't think in 30 seconds or one minute I can make this the issue of the debate.
01:38:26.000I have to be ready to use it if the opportunity presents.
01:38:30.000Obviously, Dr. Paul, I defer to your knowledge.
01:38:32.000You've been up on the Hill for many years and you've experienced all this.
01:38:35.000You know ten times with half your brain tied behind your back that I do about strategy.
01:38:40.000What are you planning to bring up in the debate that's coming up next week?
01:38:45.000You know, if I have an opportunity to direct this discussion, I would probably follow this line of thinking.
01:38:52.000You know, I've made the case for the more arguments against our foreign policy, and the politics of it, how bad it is for us as Republicans, and how unconstitutional it is.
01:39:02.000But I'm going to start talking more about, to sort of needle away at the conservatives, how this is not conservative.
01:39:11.000We borrow every penny to fight this war from the Chinese.
01:39:15.000The Chinese can bring us to our knees because of our monetary system and our trade policies, and yet nobody says anything.
01:39:22.000And the conservatives call this a conservative philosophy?
01:39:26.000At the same time, they're running up these huge deficits.
01:39:28.000I'm going to put the burden back on our Republican leadership for not being exactly what they say they are, and trying to make the point That instead of making me the strange Republican, I think I'm a mainstream Republican.
01:39:46.000I think they're radical in their foreign policy.
01:39:48.000I think they're radical in endorsing the Democratic proposals for entitlements.
01:39:53.000They're radical when it comes to taxes and entitlements.
01:39:59.000I need to run up these deficits and continue this fraud that exists in the Federal Reserve System to keep printing money to pay the bills, which literally wipes out the middle class.
01:40:10.000So I'm going to emphasize the economics of this war, since we have talked about the other conditions that have given us trouble.
01:40:19.000The dollar is continuing its unbelievable plunge.
01:40:24.000And then I saw Bloomberg as the Mexicans are panicking because the peso is surging up the charts, gaining on the dollar.
01:40:35.000And maybe that is a reflection of what they see coming with the North American Union.
01:40:39.000Maybe they're betting they're going to be successful.
01:40:41.000And you know, this immigration bill is pushing that bill along too, this whole idea of the North American Union.
01:40:47.000And if they're going to combine our currencies, that means that you would be betting on the peso gaining against the dollar.
01:40:54.000You know, it's a guessing game, too, because none of the currencies are anything other than paper currency, so there's a lot of political guesswork being done, and yet, I hope I'm wrong on that assessment, but it well could be some speculators thinking that they're going to be pushing us into this North American Union, which obviously we have to continue to fight.
01:41:15.000Well, when the peso starts running up against the dollar, we know... There's something wrong.
01:41:23.000Talking about the economy, I mean, now even Alan Greenspan is saying serious recession coming, which is what you've been saying for a few years.
01:41:31.000And you said a few years ago you saw that happening in the next three to five years.
01:41:35.000Do you still give us that prognosis, Doctor?
01:42:09.000So we're in negative growth right now in real terms.
01:42:12.000Well, doesn't the federal government also cook and fix a lot of the economic indices and datum that they add into the whole inflation and growth scales?
01:42:24.000Yeah, I don't really believe any of them and I don't know.
01:42:28.000Who puts them all together and whether they sleep well at night, but I don't really trust him.
01:42:34.000I think this website that John Williams has out is very good.
01:42:40.000He keeps tabs on real growth and money supply.
01:42:43.000He's the one that put this M3 money supply together, and he also talks about the PPI and CPI in real terms.
01:42:51.000If you just use the old You know, we have an inflation rate of 7, 8, 9 percent, you know.
01:42:58.000So, what happens is, it's sort of like the money supply.
01:43:02.000They cancel it or change it, and they do that with these other statistics, too.
01:43:06.000But that's why I think people are much more disgruntled than the government statistics would indicate.
01:43:13.000You know, everything is wonderful, according to government reports.
01:43:17.000At the same time, you know the people and what they're complaining about, and they're not all that happy.
01:43:22.000They know that their liberties are being undertaken and removed at the same time their economic conditions are getting worse.
01:43:30.000Congressman, last year the Defense Authorization Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, moved us much closer to The president controlling the governors in emergencies, even environmental, then of course, and of course you've written about this, but for the listeners, recapping, we saw the Military Commissions Act, which all the top law professors looked at and said, yes, they strip citizens of citizenship and then can secretly use torture in a court of law.
01:43:56.000Uh, in one of these kangaroo courts against you.
01:43:58.000Now, with Presidential Decision Directive 51, Bush, quote, gave the presidency, I don't know how the president does that, the new power to circumvent Congress during, quote, environmental emergencies or any emergencies he sees fit.
01:44:12.000In the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, they use the term during insurrection or rebellion.
01:44:20.000So please speak to the overall dictatorship that you've talked about that now is being set up and then can you expand on that too?
01:44:28.000Is the elite doing this so they can bankrupt the economy and fully suck us dry or are they doing it because they've drunkenly overspent and now they can't control it and they're afraid of when it implodes people are going to riot.
01:44:43.000I think my first guess would be that they're preparing for bad conditions, and they know what we know, although they deny it and wouldn't say it, and they expect turmoil.
01:44:53.000And, you know, when the entitlement system breaks down, there's going to be a lot of chaos.
01:44:57.000And I think they also know that the Chinese could bring us to our knees if they desire to, and they could destroy the dollar, and there's going to be a lot of unhappy people.
01:45:06.000So, in some ways, the executive branch always overextends, but the Congress is derelict, because when they passed that change in the Insurrection Act, in the DOD budget, They literally said it would be okay, so it has become law now with this recent executive order.
01:45:23.000He's just putting it down in black and white, in concrete, and he's telling us exactly how they can do it, and yet nobody seems to care.
01:45:32.000Is that a public... I had a reporter here yesterday, and he said, is that hyperbole, Mr. Jones?
01:45:37.000He said, I heard you say this is an open declaration of dictatorial powers.
01:46:12.000This seems to be a big burst of energy to solidify the power in the executive branch.
01:46:19.000And I guess we can't look into the minds and souls of everyone that's doing this, whether they say, oh, I love dictatorship, I want it, or whether they're just preparing for rough times and sincerely believe this is the way to do it.
01:46:32.000Well, that's what concerns me, sir, is that, you know, we saw preparations 20, 30 years ago, but it was It was very small, it was emasculated, it wasn't robust.
01:46:41.000Now, everything they do is clearly being done to set up classical police state, you know, frontline oppression that you've warned so much about.
01:46:50.000And now they pass John Warner Defense Authorization Act, which openly says for insurrection and to dominate the public.
01:46:56.000They pass the Military Commissions Act.
01:46:59.000I mean, do you think they're getting ready to try it?
01:47:01.000Well, it's hard to say, but they are prepared.
01:47:03.000And you know, this whole idea of getting rid of habeas corpus means that You know, if they need this type, or they're going to use this type of power, I mean, they're not going to want to be handicapped by all of us going before a judge and forcing them to explain why they're holding us.
01:47:20.000Now they can hold an American citizen without habeas corpus.
01:47:25.000That, to me, is one of the most atrocious changes in our law recently.
01:47:30.000That and the change in our foreign policy where we start preemptive wars.
01:47:34.000These two things, one international, one domestic, is a real threat to us.
01:47:38.000Is that not what Hitler and Stalin did?
01:47:42.000When you start saying there's no habeas corpus, you're guilty until proven innocent, and I'm going to preemptively attack whoever I want, I mean, what is that called, sir?
01:47:53.000For them to succeed, though, they're going to have to really attack the Second Amendment because that is the ultimate test of whether the American people will stand up to this abuse.
01:48:03.000So we'll have to wait and see if there's any extra As a matter of fact, there are some gun laws being prepared now as a consequence of this recent school episode, so they are going to make some more attempt.
01:48:13.000But still, the American people are armed, and we still have access to radio talk shows, and we still have the internet, so our voices can be heard, and I think that's a lot about what this campaign is about.
01:48:26.000Congressman, is it fair to say that the Republic is in the fight of its life, literally for its very existence?
01:48:32.000I think it's been going on a long time, but it seems to be coming to a head.
01:48:36.000And that's why, you know, what we do now is crucial.
01:48:41.000That's also the reason I'm encouraged that our information is getting out better than ever before, and the young people are waking up, and that's great.
01:48:50.000Congressman, the Logan Act, the cover of the Dallas Morning News, Texas Governor Rick Perry to attend Bilderberg meeting, and they say it's super secret, and that he's flown over there to meet.
01:49:01.000Yeah, well, that sure is a sign that he's very much involved in the international conspiracy.
01:49:07.000And, of course, he's been the promoter of the highway.
01:49:10.000But wasn't it pretty neat how the people in Texas spoke out and the legislature also all of a sudden, you know, backed away and put a moratorium on that?
01:49:19.000That means that people do have a voice.
01:49:21.000But this information about him going over there and violating, if that becomes the case, the Logan Act and getting involved, I'm just very impressed that that's in the ordinary media.
01:49:31.000So that's, to me, I think that's encouraging, too.
01:49:35.000So go ahead and ask another one, but I gotta go.
01:49:37.000Okay, Congressman, stay there just one moment.
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01:53:01.000They were talking to the other radio show he was about to go on during that break.
01:53:08.000I did get a chance to get the question in to him, should there be an investigation under the Logan Act of Rick Perry going to the Bilderberg Group meeting, and he said yes, that he would call for an investigation.
01:53:22.000By that, he wasn't saying, I'm calling for one, because he had to go.
01:53:24.000He was saying, yes, I'm for an investigation under the Logan Act on this.
01:53:29.000Congressman Ron Paul is saying this should be investigated under a violation of the Logan Act, because you can read it in clear black and white.
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01:58:02.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000We're talking about mainstream media, from the nightly news to human events, reporting on The fact that President Bush has just publicly announced he's a dictator before there was a cloak.
01:58:54.000When CPS is grabbing children coast-to-coast without a judge, a jury, without due process, when police are openly on the street talking about framing people, when the government says, we don't care if it violates the law, we're just by fiat legalizing all the illegals and telling the police departments not to arrest them.
01:59:19.000I mean, there's just so many examples by the government.
01:59:22.000Well, they say it's not lawlessness because it is directives, it is policies of the state police that are chartered federally under federal funds and chartered under the War Powers Act of 33.
01:59:32.000I'm sorry state police around the country, if you didn't know your history, let me just give it to you now.
01:59:39.000All of this, but you see, they're now getting ready to exercise it and to have Bush announce With the military funding and are now in place and NORTHCOM set up, Homeland Security set up before 9-11.
01:59:50.000That's now even been on ABC Nightly News that it was set up before 9-11.
02:00:17.000The President has literally crossed the Rubicon, as Caesar did when he brought his troops across that river, which violated the Roman Senate because they knew if a leader brought in his troops, Rome knew to not trust the military.
02:00:35.000That's what overthrew all these other weaker nations.
02:00:37.000Militaries were always running coups and crowning themselves king this, king that.
02:00:45.000That's all Caesar means is king, emperor.
02:00:48.000And so you weren't allowed to bring your troops over.
02:00:49.000And sure enough, he brought them over, made himself dictator, and that was the beginning of the end of Rome.
02:00:55.000Well, Caesar didn't cross the Rubicon here.
02:00:58.000A group of private merchants and bankers took over in 1913, set up martial law in 33, set up shadow government in 47, and have expanded their power ever since, and are now just ready to go for broke.
02:01:11.000Get rid of, you know, even their puppet government.
02:01:20.000And they carried out the attacks of Oklahoma City and 9-11, 7-7, to scare everybody into going along with this, to acclimate you to it.
02:01:28.000They had a thousand different TV programs, different episodes of every show you can imagine.
02:01:33.000Torture, secret arrest, police, martial law, getting you acclimated.
02:01:38.000And I don't know if they're going to do it, but they certainly are, certainly have spent trillions of dollars setting it up, and certainly are now announcing it.
02:01:48.000Just letting Congress know, hey, by the way, you now are useless.
02:02:39.000Now the question is, is he going to act like one?
02:02:41.000Come on, is he going to use the powers?
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02:06:44.000And this is just news that the debunkers are running the other direction away from.
02:06:49.000And that was the challenge we put out yesterday on PrisonPlanet.com as we challenged the debunkers to try to debunk this.
02:07:04.000Just in closing, in the third hour, I'm going to talk more about this.
02:07:08.000The headline from Global Research, New Presidential Directive Gives Bush Dictatorial Power, National Security Homeland Security Presidential Directive Establishes National Continuity Policy.
02:07:20.000WorldNet Daily Headline, Bush Grants Presidency Extraordinary Powers, Order for Emergency Apparently Gives Authority Without Congressional Oversight.
02:07:28.000And you can go to the whitehouse.gov and just read it.
02:07:31.000Just type Presidential Directive 51 into Google, you'll be on the White House website.
02:07:50.000And now I'm glad that people are talking about it in grocery store lines, that I'm getting phone calls, you know, cluing me in on the new development.
02:08:25.000Now, the term legate was the emperor would have one or two generally old, trusted men Who had been in power for 30-40 years, who could speak for the Emperors, so they could be sent to different corners of the Empire.
02:08:40.000And then a General would have a Legate, a Centurion would have a Legate, but you had Imperial Legates, and you had Caesar level Legates, Senatorial Legates, and that's all this is, is it sets up an Imperial Legate, Who can then give legate power under the Emperor's direction.
02:08:59.000And when I use terms like that, uh, Bush is the first Emperor of the United States.
02:09:07.000I'm not saying have a headline like that because it's a joke.
02:09:11.000Ron Paul, the last four or five times he's been on, by the way, he's on next Tuesday.
02:09:16.000We got his campaign director on tomorrow, has said, we're in martial law, we're in tyranny, and Bush could become a dictator, they could put us in camps.
02:09:25.000He said those exact words on the show, and then my writers are so restrained that they've written headlines that just say, Ron Paul warns of martial law.
02:09:36.000So I'm done talking about that for now.
02:09:38.000I didn't know that when he agreed to come on, so I'm sorry to, uh, when he's out on some family trip, twist his arm, but it's such big news.
02:09:48.000And there it is, hidden in plain view, right in front of everybody, that, uh, the government blew up the towers and firebombed them, and, uh, just, I want to make this clear.
02:10:00.000First off, he saw the airline aircraft government NASA photographs of the 2,500 degree molten steel, molten metal, in the basements of the wound.
02:10:14.000And we know that a month later it was 2,000-something degrees, and five weeks later it was 2,000-something degrees.
02:10:22.000I mean, this is heat levels that are just off the charts.
02:10:26.000I mean, we're talking 500 plus degrees hotter than jet fuel even can burn.
02:10:32.000You got people standing in the wounds of the buildings.
02:10:35.000They're not burning, but giant four-foot-round columns all snap off and aerosolize.
02:10:40.000But right before they snap off and the explosions start, you see founts, gouts of molten metal Burning, pouring out at the same light intensity and the same fluorescence and the same type of ejections of smoke, the signature of steel being melted in a thermate reaction.
02:11:02.000Then they get all these different samples and then samples from ground zero victims and it's little perfectly spherical and some not perfectly spherical globulins of frozen metal.
02:12:04.000I've tried to put it in a nutshell, but can you, as the doctor, as the physicist, can you condense down just in a maybe five-minute statement exactly how you got into this, what you discovered, and then the research every time is confirmed.
02:12:18.000I mean, this is like a classical Sherlock Holmes deal, where it just keeps spinning.
02:12:46.000You do a much better, actually Alex, you and Paul's article, Paul Watson there in Prison Planet, very well written.
02:12:55.000But let me just see if I can then get at the results with this state-of-the-art equipment.
02:13:01.000So now we're looking at these spheres.
02:13:06.000I think I mentioned in my talk that I first saw spheres just, well several months ago now, By the naked eye, there's some of these spheres you can see.
02:13:17.000They're about sixteenth of an inch in diameter.
02:13:19.000And then there's a lot more, though, as you go smaller, which you look at with the electron microscope.
02:13:26.000And then probe to look at the elements inside these spheres.
02:13:30.000So the very fact that these are iron rich, I mean, you know, 50-75% iron, already tells you that there was a very high temperature reaction.
02:13:41.000Something high temperature because, as you mentioned, iron melts at high temperature in steel, mostly iron.
02:13:49.000But iron melts at around 2800 Fahrenheit.
02:13:56.000You just can't get anywhere near those temperatures with ordinary fires, that is, burning church at fuel, type of kerosene, or wood, paper, whatever you have in your office there.
02:14:11.000not going to reach anywhere near the temperatures to melt.
02:14:16.000And then volatilize, too, because you have these drops.
02:14:18.000As you mentioned, frozen is a good word for these.
02:14:21.000A liquid at one time, and so they form spheres or near spheres.
02:14:26.000And many of these are really very spherical, by the way.
02:14:30.000So this metal, when you get a drop of liquid, it pulls into a spherical shape because of surface tension, and then with iron and other metals in there, it hardens, it freezes, solidifies very quickly as it goes through the air.
02:14:50.000I found one today actually, it's on the electron microscope.
02:14:56.000Well, I was looking over the shoulder of the guy who runs it and we found a hollow sphere that had cracked open so we can actually look inside one of these spheres that was hollow.
02:15:10.000And I'm puzzling over just what that means to have a hollow sphere now.
02:15:15.000But this sphere is only about, well, 50 microns, 70 microns across.
02:16:20.000One thing I need to emphasize, Alex, as we talked about these little spheres in the dust, is that this is not just steel.
02:16:29.000These spheres show high aluminum and sulfur content.
02:16:34.000And so, that you wouldn't have in steel.
02:16:37.000I mean, we're talking, the spheres we're looking at this morning... That's the signature of the accelerant in the thermate, and you've done the side-by-side thermate versus these spheres, and ladies and gentlemen, on these graphs, I mean, with metals, because I've researched this now and looked at it, they're always different.
02:16:52.000These things fit like, like, like, like jaws of a Tyrannosaurus together.
02:17:21.000I just don't know how the debunkers are going to get around this.
02:17:24.000I don't know how jet fuel causes giant steel columns to fount and spark and spray molten metal everywhere.
02:17:32.000I'm really going to need to figure that out because again, or the wood-burning stoves I know about, I don't know how they're not founting and exploding too.
02:17:40.000Uh, because, you know, Mr. Gibson on Fox is still... still melts in fire now.
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02:23:36.000Let's stay focused on fighting the New World Order.
02:23:38.000So there's a bunch of ninnying people who are salivating over getting on The View and basically they're just mad that it's not them or it's not William Rodriguez getting on.
02:23:48.000They're just mad that it's William and the loose change guys that are scheduled.
02:23:53.000It was ABC, they put out the press release, and they've backed it off, and I don't know what's going on.
02:23:58.000Well, I do know what's going on, I'm not going to lie.
02:24:00.000But I'm not going to talk about it, I'm just going to leave it alone, and I'm not going to worry about it.
02:24:04.000Because we're getting the word out regardless.
02:25:15.000And I was thinking this morning about Galileo.
02:25:18.000He was part of a revolution in his day, which led to the Renaissance, by the way.
02:25:23.000So, you know, it pulled people out of the Dark Ages, really, to get a new viewpoint and to realize the truth.
02:25:30.000I'm actually kind of excited about that as I think about the historical parallels, the opportunities we have here to contribute to this truth effort.
02:25:41.000Galileo Through his telescope, he pointed it at Jupiter, and he saw moons going around Jupiter.
02:25:49.000Of course, at that time, everything was supposed to revolve around the Earth.
02:25:55.000The Earth was the center of the universe.
02:25:58.000Talk about an egocentric point of view, I guess, but that was the view in that day.
02:26:04.000We now recognize that as a popular myth.
02:26:11.000You know, it was widely accepted, just as the myth about 9-11 is widely accepted worldwide today, and yet it's breaking down, just as the Earth-centered view broke down in Galileo's day.
02:26:24.000And what broke it down was observations such as he made, science.
02:26:29.000And so he got out his telescope and he reported that, you know, look, these moons are going around Jupiter, they're not going around the Earth.
02:26:37.000Furthermore, the Earth It makes, if you look at all the data, it makes sense.
02:26:41.000The earth is going around the sun, not vice versa.
02:26:46.000And of course, the authorities in his day didn't like his bringing out these facts and they threatened him.
02:26:54.000You know, they threatened him with torture.
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02:30:58.000I'm Alex Jones, talking to Professor Stephen E. Jones, a doctor of physics, and he is one of the leading physicists in the world.
02:31:06.000He doesn't like to toot his horn, but if you pull up, you know, the major scientific journals, he's been published in the biggest in the world.
02:31:13.000He's made major discoveries, multiple major discoveries that were announced, you know, back in the 80s and the 90s on the nightly news.
02:31:23.000And he wasn't told he was going to be killed, at least not by the government directly.
02:31:27.000He wasn't sent away to be locked in his house, but he did, you know, get shown the door and told to move on, basically early retirement, for daring to say that the Earth is not the center of the universe, or for daring saying that, you know, basically I guess that the Pope isn't infallible.
02:31:46.000And we're going to go back to him in just a moment.
02:31:49.000I hope you will visit InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
02:31:53.000On PrisonPlanet.com, in the News and Focus section, it's got yesterday's news.
02:31:57.000And 9-1-1 debunkers hide from slam-dunk evidence of controlled demolition.
02:32:04.000Electron microscope analysis of steel spheres from WTC site proves thermate, proves collapse of Twin Towers, was an act of deliberate arson.
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02:33:25.000There are only a few hundred of these left, and when they're gone, they're gone, because the second edition, by the way, has the new Thermate Spheres info in it, I would add.
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02:34:15.000And just another little side note, for those that are, for some reason, the 9/11 community, some of the people, Professor Jones has been lashed out in the past too, some of the very same crowd has been claiming that the Loose Change guys got everything canceled by going on my show last Friday and talking about some of the very same crowd has been claiming that the Loose Change guys got everything canceled We had them on two days after ABC News had a press release and announced it on The View.
02:34:41.000It's in your TV guide right now if they're still coming on tomorrow.
02:35:17.000Really, it was about people in the Non-Living Truth Movement jealous that the guys, the men that made this film and Willie were going to be going on air.
02:35:46.000And in closing, before I go back to Professor Jones, I appreciate joining us.
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02:38:05.000Again, just in layman's terms, sir, how big this scientific, now peer-reviewed, with other scientists with you looking at it, chain of custody control, multiple samples, I mean, I just, I'm not trying to hype this, folks, this is huge!
02:38:24.000You know, along with these other evidence, evidences that we've pulled together, Alex, through the years, yourself included, of course, we just have an overwhelming I'm very excited about the iron-rich spheres in the World Trade Center desk because they carry this message, you know, this is how a very high temperature is required to form me.
02:38:51.000Look at me, see what I'm carrying, more information, and there's the sulfur and the aluminum and the iron in there.
02:38:58.000And in a number of them, we also see potassium and manganese in large quantities.
02:39:03.000I mean, where'd that come from, all this potassium?
02:39:06.000Now explain, that's an unbelievable signature.
02:39:41.000It's a different... The steel... Let me just finish that thought.
02:39:46.000So we melted some steel then with an oxy-acetylene torch and you do get sparks which form into spheres and these now are steel spheres because they're produced from the steel melted.
02:39:57.000We compare those with the Particles found in the dust and we find The overwhelming majority of the particles in the dust do not look like steel spheres at all because they have this high aluminum and sulfur content along with the iron, which is the signature on the other hand for thermite.
02:40:18.000So again, I want to emphasize that what we're seeing is not melted steel in the dust.
02:40:24.000There will be some of those and we have found, I think, one out of now dozens of spheres that we've looked at.
02:41:13.000Because they're pyromaniacs or whatever it's called.
02:41:16.000I mean, just doing a Google search on thermate and arson, all the time they go buy it, they mix it, and they love to go burn it, and they love the explosive power of it, and so they always test steel in buildings that have been burned for this, but they didn't on this event, did they?
02:41:33.000No, and that's a good point, Alex, that the termite is spelled out in the Fire code for investigations, NFPA 921, if you Google on that and then search for thermite, you'll find it's in there.
02:41:48.000They're supposed to look for high-temperature accelerants.
02:41:51.000In particular, thermite is specifically mentioned, along with magnesium.
02:42:00.000I mean, I'm sorry that it's so easily available, but it's a well-known reaction.
02:42:04.000It's been used for over 100 years for good.
02:42:08.000And it can also, of course, like most things, be used for evil as well, arson.
02:42:14.000And that's what we're saying, is that now we have looked for these residues, and now that the secret's out, Alex, I'm hopeful that other scientists, I know of one group, I probably won't mention which university, but there is another university now looking at the spheres and the dust, and so we just have some Preliminary results.
02:42:38.000But the point is, they will want to publish, we will want to publish in the scientific, the larger journals.
02:42:46.000I will say that our Journal of 9-11 Studies has just taken off since January.
02:42:54.000I point people to that because if they want the, shall we say, the meat of this, the science, the rationale for These studies and these announcements, you go to the journal of 911studies.com.
02:43:09.000That's where my latest paper is on these microspheres.
02:44:10.000Just, I mean, not even too many years after he died, it did, you know, came out and people said, yes, the earth orbits the sun and the sun, you know, is orbiting, you know, around a larger, you know, galaxy.
02:44:25.000And he was vindicated, and people don't remember the kooks and the folks that were wrong back then that tried to persecute him and other scientists.
02:44:33.000They remember Galileo, and I would imagine you take some heart in that, not that this is about being remembered, but that knowing that the enemies of truth, they're going to be in the dustbin of history, and those of us that did take the bold stand, we're going to be on the winning side, even if it's long after we're dead, but I don't think we're going to have to wait that long on this, because the dam is breaking.
02:44:53.000You know, truth has that way, and we see it historically, Alex, that dictatorships often try to repress the truth because it threatens them.
02:45:02.000But as the truth comes out, then people are freer.
02:45:06.000Last time we had the Renaissance, and it just occurred to me as we've been chatting about this that, you know, if we can get the Not if we can.
02:45:15.000As we get the truth out, because it's invincible, you see, historically.
02:45:24.000So, I'm hopeful that, the question is timing, of course.
02:45:30.000What kind of difficulties do we have to go through?
02:45:32.000Do we have an Inquisition type thing, like they had back, you know, Dark Ages, to repress the truth and freedom?
02:45:40.000Or can we get through that Faster this time and get on to a renaissance.
02:45:45.000Look, this New World Order, as you mentioned, the powers that be, as people wake up to this, they must be terrified by the truth and by the concept of a renaissance that would clean the slate.
02:46:45.000I mean, you know, I guess they try to dumb down the The audience and so on but you know as the evidence builds and the facts it's just it's going to be unstoppable and I think there is hope of a we had to come up with a name for this now a second renaissance or a it may take several years to get there and there'll be difficulties I'm sure as we get as we break through but it I'm confident that it will come I'm not
02:47:26.000And the tighter they squeeze, the more resistance they're going to form.
02:47:29.000I mean, people thought I was like a three-headed space alien ten years ago talking like this, and now, I mean, almost everybody I talk to knows there's a problem, and mainstream news says that the president is now a dictator.
02:47:41.000Can you believe that he openly signed a presidential decision directive saying he's a dictator?
02:47:48.000And it's amazing how blatant they're getting, frankly, on this.
02:47:52.000And the NAUSPP, you know, that's been hidden, and they've worked toward it, but now it's coming out.
02:48:00.000If we can just get people galvanized to work towards eliminating these steps that they're taking and then I think we can break through and clean the slate here and get some Well, not having a choice is a big motivator.
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02:52:21.000This was out days before we reported on it.
02:52:23.000I know there's folks in 9-11 Truth that want to find some chink in my armor to claim I did something bad, but you've got to look for something else.
02:52:30.000Frankly, there's plenty, too, if you knew where to look.
02:52:45.000I would like to encourage people to look at... David Ray Griffin has a paper there this month, May, and I do, and you'll find papers by Kevin Ryan and Others that, you know, these are solid efforts at scientific truth and scholarship.
02:53:04.000So the journal is simply journalof911studies.com and that'll get you right into that.
02:53:15.000Nearly 60 papers now by scholars there, professors and engineers.
02:53:20.000And by the way, people hear scientific paper, they think boring.
02:53:23.000This is riveting stuff to get in there and look at the studies, look at the photos, look at the videos, look at all the exhibits, and really know the science, not just take our word for it.
02:53:34.000Please, go read his paper, which is, you know, thanks to the internet, full of clips and audio and diagrams and scans.
02:54:34.000You may remember that at the time that we did the presentation in California, you told me that you were going to have this experiment working out, and basically you were going to put yourself in communicator for several months because you were going to be so involved and basically you were going to put yourself in communicator for several months because you And Professor Dr. Doc Rocky basically validated some of your information.
02:55:30.000And let me add to that, that the important thing of the work from Professor Jones, you know, I've been accused and basically words have been put in my mouth many times by debunkers and everybody else that I have said about, you know, basically explosives I never said that.
02:55:48.000I am not an expert in explosives and that's where the professor and his studies and his You said you heard explosions before the plane hit.