The dollar drops further, Oil prices continue to rise, the housing market shakes from Miami to San Francisco, but the average American is just beginning to become concerned. The average American has just begun to get an inkling that we face major crises in this society. We have three special guests today. Dr. Paul Craig Roberts has now come right out with the fact that 9/11 is an inside job, and he believes they are getting ready to stage massive terror attacks. He feels it in his belly. Big Brother. Mainstream media. Government cover-ups. You want answers? Well, so does he.
00:00:41.000The housing market shakes from Miami to San Francisco.
00:00:49.000But the average American is just beginning to become concerned.
00:00:53.000The average American is just beginning to get an inkling that we face major crises in this society.
00:01:03.000We have three guests today, and I'll be telling you about those three special guests coming up in the next segment.
00:01:09.000One of them is Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, who's now just come right out with the fact that 9-11's an inside job, and he's now come right out with the fact that he believes they're getting ready to stage massive terror attacks.
00:01:19.000He feels it in his belly, and he'll be joining us coming up today.
00:01:24.000We've got two other guests we'll tell you about as well.
00:01:30.000But I've been noticing now that I'm getting a lot of emails, a lot of phone calls, a lot of letters, and I'm seeing a lot of videos on YouTube as well-known conservative bloggers, but that were not on the government payroll that were actually conservative bloggers.
00:01:46.000And just a lot of other individuals are now admitting that George Bush is bad, or may have been lied to, and are now basically shattering their left-right blinders.
00:01:58.000And we're seeing the same thing at an accelerated pace on the left.
00:02:03.000The left is forged, controlled, owned by the New World Order.
00:02:10.000The so-called conservative movement is bought and paid for by the New World Order.
00:02:15.000And that's why they always win, because they've had the illusion that there is choice when there hasn't been.
00:02:22.000Finally, and I keep harping on this, but now we have some new developments, finally, We see approval ratings now of 12% in Congress.
00:03:09.000They start trying to basically loot even faster in the few minutes they've got before they roll over on their backs and twitch their little legs into oblivion.
00:03:26.000And that's what's happening, but I mean they are just wildly running around, stealing, grabbing, just like nothing I've ever seen.
00:03:36.000They're very upset they didn't shot the country's head completely off with the amnesty program.
00:03:43.000They've still got 14 daggers shoved in our back, just on the immigration issue alone, but We're not completely dead yet, and so they know that the economy can implode anytime.
00:03:56.000They know that there's a hundred crises plus they face, and they wanted to get that blanket amnesty before they also brought in the economic collapse.
00:04:07.000So the mere fact that we're holding back their plans, the mere fact that we're holding back their programs, means that they cannot institute the next phase.
00:04:39.000We're trying to save what's left of the economy.
00:04:41.000We're trying to salvage what's left of the nation.
00:04:45.000This is literal Life and death for this country, this economy, and many of our physical lives.
00:04:51.000We'll come back, tell you about the news, get into the three guests we've got coming up, and we'll be taking your calls later today as well.
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00:08:24.000The author of the War on the Week and also IBM and the Holocaust scheduled to be joining us.
00:08:31.000Then we have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who's coming right out and saying the neocons are getting ready to stage a terror attack.
00:08:37.000And we've got Richard Gage who I had on for about 45 minutes last week or two weeks ago that I rescheduled for a longer hour and a half interview so we can take your calls on the controlled demolitions of Tower 1, 2, and 7.
00:08:53.000And I know that Most of you understand this.
00:08:59.000But we need to have all the specific scientific evidence from an engineer, from an architect, whose group has hundreds and hundreds of members that is exponentially growing.
00:09:44.000You know, Mr. Rothschild can say that Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, Pluto, are closer to the sun than earth but the scientific fact shows that's not the case and they're trying to bring in non-reality more and more by design and the people are rejecting it.
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00:11:43.000Public discussion of Iraq withdrawal reinforces enemy propaganda.
00:11:48.000So, they lied to us about the war by design.
00:11:51.000We have all our own memos and Pentagon documents.
00:11:54.000And now if we as American citizens say, hey, you lied to us.
00:11:58.000Oh, you're not allowed to question and you're helping the enemy.
00:12:04.000Funny, your own Pentagon plan says you actually want to create enemies where there were none and stir up and create resistance as a pretext to not just stay in the Middle East but widen operations.
00:13:11.000He goes, every time I've seen them build like that, a recession's coming.
00:13:15.000Why that's the formula, I'm not sure, but we'll be getting into that a little bit later as well.
00:13:21.000We've only got him until the bottom of the hour, then Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former editor of Wall Street Journal, the father of Reaganomics, comes on to discuss that he believes we're about to go into martial law.
00:13:32.000A lot of other people are saying the same thing.
00:13:33.000Even Barbara Boxer said that we've never been this close to a dictatorship.
00:13:38.000These are the times that try men and women's souls, but I always like to go back in time to the mirror to the future.
00:13:45.000You know, we've done a four-part series on eugenics in its current context, under its current rubrics that it's operating under, but as we've discussed over and over again, the research of Edwin Black comes up, and he wrote a book about IBM and the Holocaust, and also the War on the Weak, and I've read the IBM Holocaust book years ago.
00:14:12.000I've just purchased the War on the Weak book, continuing my investigation of the history of eugenics and just how widespread it was.
00:14:22.000So, joining us is Edwin Black, author, he is a Good afternoon.
00:14:29.000New York Times bestselling author, been all over TV and radio.
00:14:34.000And I appreciate Mr. Black coming on with us. - Good afternoon, how are you? - Good.
00:14:41.000Just in the time we've got with you, how did you discover how dominant eugenics was in the last century?
00:14:47.000And then, I mean, from my research, it seems as if it was the dominant scientific group that really spawned many of the so-called modern disciplines that we see today, or certainly co-opted them.
00:15:01.000When I first rode IBM in the Holocaust, I encountered a continuing thread of identification of individuals along eugenic guidelines.
00:15:11.000And like many people, I thought that this was just some sort of a wacky science that had been taken to absurd extremes by the Nazis.
00:15:26.000It was only later That I learned when I did the research for War Against the Weak that all the Nazi notions of a master race and of the eradication of those deemed unfit to live on this earth, genocide, were actually created in the United States
00:15:52.000In many cases, the Nazi laws duplicated those developed decades before in California.
00:16:02.000Their research was funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Institution.
00:16:10.000And the whole idea in America was to create a master race of blonde, blue-eyed Nordics Which Hitler studied and transmogrified into blonde, blue-eyed Aryans.
00:16:33.000And so you have the horrible experiments of Mengele in Auschwitz.
00:16:41.000Uh, where he attempted to, uh, put, um, uh, uh, blue eyes into, um, twins who had brown eyes and did all these monster experiments.
00:16:52.000He was actually part of a program funded by the Rockefeller Foundation.
00:16:58.000And of course, nothing that our Holocaust Museum in Washington is going to ever bring out because, um, they, um, They have an unwritten taboo against mentioning corporate involvement in the Holocaust.
00:17:16.000So I did this research, and I discovered that eugenics really began in Victorian England, and was designed to just create a mathematical formula for a healthy marriage.
00:17:32.000You know, rich, talented people marrying other rich, talented people would undoubtedly create rich, talented offspring.
00:17:42.000But by the time it was transplanted to the United States and infused with a racist ideology that was caused by the socioeconomic upheavals of the 1900s, It became a pretext for extermination.
00:18:06.000When did Thomas Watson, in your research on him and IBM, when did he get the eugenics bug and become a wholehearted follower and adherent?
00:18:17.000I wouldn't say that Thomas Watson of IBM was any more of an adherent.
00:18:23.000than Theodore Roosevelt, or the governor of Massachusetts, or Woodrow Wilson.
00:18:30.000I understand it was very widespread, yeah.
00:18:32.000So basically, Thomas Edison reflected the mores of the time, the institutional mores of the time, and don't forget in 1927, the concept of eugenics, which was extermination, and And reproductive halting of those deemed unfit was a law in 27 states.
00:19:03.000I mean, that's my point, is that I found that this was the mainline view, and that basically Graham Bell, it didn't matter, they were all into this, and now Today, many of their children and grandchildren are the power structure and actually hold many of the same views just under new names.
00:19:24.000Well, you're most correct because after it was proved at Nuremberg that what Hitler engaged in was not a war of plunder and conquest as much as a biological war to create a master race, eugenics fell out of favor And the very same, the very same scientist... Stay there, sir.
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00:24:40.000Mr. Black, in the few minutes we've got left with you, we were getting up to the point of eugenics going underground and basically taking over every major discipline or the crypto-eugenicists.
00:24:51.000Well, eugenics went underground, and all the same institutions at Cold Spring, Tom, Harbor and the universities renamed their departments of eugenics departments of genetics and all the foundation grants and all that continued the research and in some cases many of these same Nazi monsters continued on as leading members of the genetics community.
00:25:19.000Now, is that why I talk to biology students and even graduate students and they send me emails going, yes, all humans should die, we are a scourge on the earth, and I'll email back saying, you're a eugenicist.
00:25:34.000It's like so inculcated, they don't even know!
00:25:38.000Well, I think what your listeners need to understand is that there's creeping eugenics.
00:25:43.000The main way you have creeping eugenics is to start to devalue human life.
00:25:51.000The original eugenicists claimed that white guys with brown hair had to be exterminated and in fact in many states starting back to about 1911 There were actually bills put into legislatures asking for the public gas chambers to be built.
00:26:16.000This is decades before Hitler made his gas chambers.
00:26:21.000Repeat that for people in more detail.
00:26:23.000Well, the original concept of the American eugenesis, which was supported by the government, the American Agriculture Department, et cetera, was that the way to perfect a human race was
00:26:40.000was to exterminate the bottom tenth and the original proposal was gas chambers and some states like Ohio legislation had actually been put into the state advocating for doctors to prescribe a gas chamber.
00:26:57.000Now that did not succeed and so they went to the other idea which is forced surgical sterilization.
00:27:05.000Now inhibiting reproduction Uh, deliberately, was later held, uh, after the Nazis did it systematically, uh, to be, uh, a form of genocide.
00:27:16.000In the few minutes we've got left, sir, it's clear I'm gonna have to, uh, you know, beseech you to come on for a full hour, because you've got even, you know, a lot more knowledge than I have on this, and I've been studying it for years.
00:28:32.000Uh, Galton invented fingerprint science, and he began to try to, uh, launch a science called biometrics, and there was a journal called Biometrica.
00:29:08.000No, I really don't know, but I would just say that there is a group of people who do not want mankind to die, but they want mankind To split into two groups, self-directed evolution and those who will serve it.
00:29:26.000And that's a whole other topic that one day we can talk about.
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00:34:07.000The Congress now has a 12% approval rate, down two points in just 30 days.
00:34:12.000Cheney is now sitting in a major Gallup poll at 10 points, down from 12.
00:34:18.000Mainline, hardcore, neocon, drooling base, who have never been conservative, they just bought into phony neoconism like they bought into a new Pepsi slogan, has now woken up to the fraud.
00:34:32.000The troops just a year ago, 70% in major polls won it out, now it's over 80%.
00:34:39.000Ladies and gentlemen, the criminal government, both parties working together, have blown their cover.
00:35:34.000With the John Warren Defense Authorization Act, with the enemy combatant designations, with this whole host of issues, the Military Commissions Act, with Bush announcing that he's above the Congress, they are clearly testing the water.
00:35:50.000We also know they had Tommy Franks for $540,000 a year, going around for a full year saying we're going to have martial law for another attack.
00:35:58.000It turned out he was illegally on the payroll as part of the multi-billion dollar fake news buy.
00:36:42.000My last book was a novel, which really was the history of America, the history of American foreign policy from the late 70s on.
00:36:53.000I mean, I can talk about this issue just as easily as he can, and I'm aware of his... Yes, I'm aware of your work.
00:36:59.000This is interesting how we got our wires crossed, but you're on the same page.
00:37:02.000Why don't you go ahead and speak to what's happening?
00:37:05.000Well, I think, you know, one of the interesting things now is that, you know, not that the corporate media will let you know this, is that, you know, where does the U.S.
00:37:13.000military support stand for the Republican candidates?
00:37:17.000Well, it turns out that over half the military and veterans donated money to Ron Paul.
00:37:26.000So, you know, Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate who wants to withdraw the troops.
00:37:32.000So, I mean, it's quite clear where their views stand, where their sympathies lie in terms of Republican candidates who are voicing their view.
00:37:42.000And, again, that's not been reported in your papers there.
00:37:50.000Well, it just seems to be an inexorable spiral towards tightening everything down.
00:37:57.000I mean, I'm in Canada, and here the problems are growing because we're so intimately tied to your economy, and now we're in this odd position of being the principal supplier of energy to America, and there are a lot of people here who seriously think that the US will invade.
00:38:20.000You know, probably do it in a very subtle, you know, financial way, but our resources are now considered as your resources.
00:38:31.000And as our economy thrives and yours begins to decline, it will look more and more attractive to gain control of the assets up here.
00:38:43.000But, I mean, the overall drift is towards A new kind of Nazi state.
00:39:22.000Well, yeah, that is the good news, but how are they going to translate that into political action?
00:39:28.000I was talking to Cindy Sheehan, we were both speaking at the same convention, and she had an offer to run for Congress, and probably would have been a shoo-in, but she realized that once she was there, she would be able to do far less than she can do now.
00:39:59.000She didn't rule it out further down the line.
00:40:04.000We interviewed her just last week and she said she's gonna run and I think she can beat Nancy Pelosi and I disagree with her.
00:40:11.000I think with her bully pulpit once she was in Congress, plus that'd be a great defeat to the Democrats saying, hey, you know, you do what the people want and what's constitutional or you're gone.
00:41:06.000You know, it's more kind of hawk-like than the hawks.
00:41:11.000I mean, they're... McGraw said just after the invasion that, you know, he would have done the same thing but done it differently.
00:41:22.000So, there's been very little substantive difference between Democrats and Republicans.
00:41:29.000In fact, some of the worst, most egregious errors or tightening of restrictions of liberty have come under the Democrats.
00:41:40.000On the central issues, there's almost no difference once they're in power.
00:41:44.000I mean, Clinton, when he was running against George I, He said that he actually ran on a program of reduced military spending that was going to bring troops home.
00:41:55.000And the result, when he got into power, and nobody called him on it, is that he increased military spending and put more Americans out there around the world than any president before him.
00:42:08.000You know, besides bombing Iraq virtually every day.
00:42:12.000It's a difference in style that the American public seems to have been suckered into for too long now.
00:42:19.000They need to wake up to the fact that for a start, two parties is really not a choice, it's an alternative.
00:42:27.000And when the alternative proves to be virtually identical, the country is being run for a handful of oligarchs and that needs to stop and it needs to be replaced with a real democracy.
00:42:41.000Well, tell us specifically about your work and some of the things you've been doing.
00:42:47.000Well, I started off writing books about countries that had gone through the colonial period and were emerging from it, like Egypt and India, and I became interested in the Middle East, and I went to Iraq first in the late 80s and interviewed Saddam, and then went back during the embargo I saw the incredible condition the country has been reduced to.
00:44:12.000But again, you know, he was helped into power by the CIA and the British, and kept there by them, by all accounts, until his usefulness outran, and a lot of Iraqis still believe That he was a CIA agent whose job was to deliver the country into the hands of America when the time came.
00:44:35.000Well we know that Saddam Hussein in 1958 was trained by the CIA in Cairo, Egypt as an assassin.
00:44:43.000We know that they told the Baathists they would stop trying to overthrow them, and they made him the head of security in 69.
00:44:49.000Then 10 years later, in 79, he was put into power.
00:45:29.000One of the first things they did, of course, as you know better than I, when they took over, was to make the data on the number of dead a secret.
00:45:35.000We did get the Lansing Journal, and then John Hopkins did a study.
00:45:38.000It is over 600,000 plus dead in the first three years.
00:45:42.000We're now four years and three months into this, so the numbers when they come out will be much higher now.
00:45:47.000All the ministries in Baghdad were destroyed.
00:46:06.000I mean, I'm amazed that we've allowed Paul Wolfowitz to simply walk away from this mess, because he had had this in planning since 1978.
00:46:16.000Then he did a contingency study, which is a kind of what-if scenario.
00:46:20.000What if the Russians made an alliance with the Iraqis and gained access to a warm water port in the Gulf, thereby threatening America's strategic interest, i.e.
00:46:34.000He couldn't push that plan back then because Sudan was still a useful ally, but he kept on pushing it Uh, and the odd thing is he kept on pushing it after the Soviet Union collapsed and its reasons ceased to exist.
00:46:47.000So, uh, you can induce by that that the reasons were not the reasons given.
00:46:54.000If the reason then was to thwart Russia's aims to get a warm water port and threaten the oil, what were the reasons after the collapse of the Soviet Union?
00:47:02.000Well, they just want to have weapons sales, and the Pentagon tells us they want to destabilize the whole region, and then they tell us, oh no, we're there to stabilize it, when it's actually the opposite.
00:47:10.000I mean, to see a population of 24 million go down to less than 22 million, millions are now dead.
00:47:20.000because he had the thing in planning for so long.
00:47:23.000If he didn't know it, he was incompetent and negligent, which I doubt.
00:47:26.000But if he did know it, he's guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity because anyone could have told him, and they did tell him, anyone who knew anything about Iraq, including myself, were urging them not to do this because the result would be chaos, sectarian violence, Well, have you read P2OG?
00:47:44.000That's the plan, break the country in three parts, have endless war.
00:47:57.000talk radio where they just snicker and say kill all Arabs?
00:48:00.000But it's all these real soft people who've never even lived or ever humanized these people, never been to Iraq like you and others have been.
00:48:08.000I'd like them to go to Iraq and look at the dead and dying children and the sewage running down the roads.
00:48:14.000If they want them all dead, they need to go get a gun and go over there and start killing these kids.
00:48:18.000No, when I was there during the embargo, I went there for the New York Times, in fact, they wanted me to write an article on Uday Hussain.
00:48:27.000And when I got there, I realized the embargo is the story.
00:49:19.000The calendars from Scotland were kept out.
00:49:23.000An Iraqi girl applying to do research at the British Library was told that that came under the embargo.
00:49:30.000Now, we weren't told that intellectual activities came under the embargo.
00:49:34.000I mean, there was no paper in Baghdad at that point.
00:49:37.000I mean, I got my hotel bill on the back of some old government letter.
00:49:41.000It was a really sad state of affairs, and every other person seemed as if they were on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
00:49:48.000And to see them go through that, and I was there during the Gulf War as well, and the country was in pretty bad shape after Iran-Iraq.
00:49:57.000But to see what's going on now is heartbreaking.
00:50:01.000Well, Mr. Roberts, I'm really honored to have you and I'm glad we got our wires crossed because we've got like three Paul Gregg Roberts in the computer and that this happened today.
00:50:11.000Tell folks, because I'm very familiar with your work, I'd like to get you on for a full hour sometime to really talk about your experiences in Baghdad so we can humanize these people for these yuppies that have never been outside their city.
00:50:22.000Who just dehumanize that it's like the plague is over in the Middle East and they all need to die.
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00:54:12.000That's funny, I've never had that happen in my years on air.
00:54:15.000We got so many names in our database, never interviewed that gentleman before, that we got our wires crossed and ended up on somebody I never interviewed before on.
00:54:24.000And then magically he agreed and written books about the same stuff and was aware and said we're going into martial law police state.
00:54:32.000Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, who I hope you'll just keep for about 10 minutes because he's leaving the country tomorrow, is with us right now.
00:54:39.000He's put out a warning that they may be staging some type of terror event or getting us into martial law, and finally people are listening.
00:54:48.000Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, thank you for coming on, sir.
00:55:00.000Well, Alex, I think what really made it so obvious was the July 18th Los Angeles Times report by Ronald Brownstein, which reminded us all that unpopular presidents have consistently undercut their party in the next election.
00:55:21.000Based on everything we know about unpopular presidents in elections, Los Angeles Times reports that 88% of voters who disapprove of the retiring president's job performance vote against his party's nominee in the next elections.
00:55:40.000And on average, 80% of voters who disapprove of the president's performance have voted against his party's candidates even in House races.
00:55:49.000So if you figure currently that you've got Seventy-five, seventy-four, seventy-five percent of the American people who disapprove of Bush, and the vast majority of those are going to be voting for the other candidates in the other party, then you face a total Republican wipeout.
00:56:18.000And so you have to ask yourself, Do we think that Cheney and Karl Rove don't know this?
00:56:27.000And so why is it they are persisting on a highly unpopular path that leads to electoral wipeout?
00:56:37.000Because they've got an ace in the hole and that's mushroom clouds.
00:56:40.000They've got an ace in the hole and that's going to be another 9-11 attack which will unify People, make them scared again, unify them around the President, and you can hear right now what Bush's speech will be after the next 9-11 attack, whether it's authentic or orchestrated.
00:57:10.000My administration knew there would be more attacks from these terrorists who hate us and hate our way of life.
00:57:18.000And are determined to destroy every one of us.
00:57:22.000If only more of you had believed me and supported my war on terror, these new attacks would not have happened.
00:57:31.000Our security efforts were impaired by the Democrats' determined attempts to surrender to the terrorists by forcing our withdrawal from Iraq.
00:57:44.000And by civil libertarian assaults on our necessary security measures, if only more Americans had trusted their government, this would not have happened.
00:58:22.000They're determined to hit us here at home.
00:58:24.000Sir, we've only got a 70-second break, and I know you've got to leave in just a moment.
00:58:28.000They'll come back for just five more as you can finish your thoughts on this subject, and then we say bon voyage to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, the father of Reaganomics.
00:59:03.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:07.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:13.000We've got Richard Gage coming up, architect engineer.
00:59:20.000With his big national organization, Architects and Engineers, 9-11 Truth, coming up after this break, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, father of Reaganomics, No.
00:59:31.0002 Department of Treasury, associate editor at the Wall Street Journal, he joins us and I appreciate him doing that because he put out articles this week saying, hey, get ready for a staged event so that Bush can legitimize his whole operation.
00:59:47.000You see the hubris, the confidence of them steaming forward as their approval ratings literally start going into single digits.
00:59:56.000Dr. Roberts, continuing with what you were saying.
00:59:59.000Okay, Alex, they're setting us up for another 9-11 type event.
01:00:11.000Another way they can go, as Pat Buchanan pointed out this week, they can have another Gulf of Tonkin event, because we've got three carrier strike forces in congested waters off Iran.
01:00:23.000And what they really want to do is to hit Iran, and they want to hold this war together long enough to hit Iran.
01:00:32.000And Ron Paul was saying that last week.
01:02:07.000Denounced Hillary Clinton for aiding the enemy, for talking about withdrawal.
01:02:14.000And you may know that on the 17th of July, Bush issued this new national executive order that they can freeze the assets of anybody who is contributing to instability in Iraq.
01:02:29.000So you could see them use that on Hillary.
01:02:33.000People don't really realize how dire the situation is.
01:03:05.000Now, if they think they need more than that, then they can stage a terrorist attack here or have a series of terrorist attacks, or if they know of one, an actual one, just let it happen.
01:03:18.000We know they've already infiltrated a lot of blowhard dissident groups and got them to talk about terrorism, and then they arrested them for the terrorism.
01:03:29.000So if they can infiltrate those kind of groups, they could probably provoke them into action.
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01:06:59.000Alright, I just completed our interview with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts about impending martial law and state government terror attacks that precipitate that.
01:07:10.000This is what I've been saying for four or five years.
01:07:13.000The next attack will be when you start hearing them say, well we tried to keep you safe, but you wouldn't let us take all your freedoms to keep you safe, so now Al Qaeda is going to get you.
01:07:25.000And they're now saying that, and you notice Dr. Paul Greg Roberts, a real conservative, is saying we are literally going down the tubes right now.
01:07:33.000It's happening not tomorrow, not next week, and I could have held him over, but I just made the final point he didn't have time to make, and I'll make the yes and I'll make it for him.
01:07:44.000He said, we don't even have to conjecture or analyze history anymore.
01:07:51.000I mean, there's open talk of dictatorship, there's open talk of arresting people, there's open talk of World War III, they're saying we're going to be attacked by terrorists, we have Republican memos about how they want terrorism.
01:08:20.000Maybe he can accelerate back through those and give us the other 10 or so that he didn't get to last time.
01:08:28.000He is an architect engineer and he's the founding member of AE 911 Truth Architects and Engineers 911truth.org.
01:08:36.000We have links to it up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
01:08:42.000He has written a lot of scholarly reports, so have other members of his organization He's very well spoken, very articulate, very effective.
01:08:50.000And they're bringing forward the scientific evidence of an inside job that's irrefutable.
01:08:55.000But before we get into the 18 points and then take calls, Richard, first off, thanks for coming on with us.
01:09:01.000And secondarily, what do you think about Dr. Paul Craig Roberts saying that he thinks the balloon may be going up?
01:09:51.000That's what happens though, once there's one mistake in one area, and that's what happened with this criminal government, it just leads to one after the other until you end up with things like what we just heard there.
01:10:04.000Interesting story up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.
01:10:11.000iPhone, a Trojan horse for government surveillance.
01:10:15.000Backdoor spyware modules allows state corporations and hackers to listen in.
01:10:23.000An alarming white paper concludes that the Apple iPhone contains a backdoor spyware module that allows hackers or the government to conduct secret surveillance of the user, part of the established trend of corporations and states working hand-in-hand to eavesdrop on citizens via widely used software and hardware products.
01:10:46.000Earlier this week, a technology group in Russia released the results of their attempts To reverse engineer the iPhone, concluding that the product has a built-in function which sends all data from an iPhone to a specified web server, contacts from phone book, SMS, recent calls, history of Safari browser, all your personal information can be stolen.
01:11:12.000The module could act as a backdoor for Trojan horse developers.
01:11:16.000AT&T said the report adding that government structures would have access to the information.
01:11:22.000Well, I mean, there's been reports about how they make all these telecommunications companies and hardware and software developers put backdoors in.
01:11:33.000And if you don't think that all based up there in Washington State that Apple isn't riddled with spooks, you got another thing coming.
01:11:40.000Since AT&T displayed no hesitation in handing over information about their subscribers to the U.S.
01:11:44.000government as part of the controversially legal NSA wiretapping scandal, well, I mean, they have whole floors at every facility that just are NSA.
01:11:52.000It would be no surprise to learn that included in the trendy new must-have gadget is a spyware module that allows the government to listen in on your conversations.
01:12:01.000I told people eight, nine years ago, as I'd read it in industry publications, that all of the Cell phones have it built in that they can tune in and listen even when your phone is off and now that's in the news.
01:12:18.000Digital cable boxes at the Scientific Atlanta have secret built-in microphones inside them since their inception in the 90s and these originally dormant devices were planted to be activated when the invasive advertising revolution arrived in 2006.
01:12:40.000Alright, we do have our guest there I appreciate holding and Richard Gage with The founding member of AE911Truth.org, and I want to go over his 18 points, and I also want to take time out to take calls.
01:12:57.000And at the same time, Dr. Paul Cray Roberts, who we just had on, sir, talked about how he thinks Bush may stage a big terror attack, because they've got to go into Iran.
01:13:06.000He talked about how all the ducks are lined up in a row.
01:13:09.000Are you getting that same sense of urgency, Mr. Gage?
01:13:13.000Well, I do share that sense of urgency, although I don't have time, unfortunately, to research the events that he and you do.
01:13:21.000I'm out there as much as I can trying to wake up as many architects, engineers, and others to the evidence that I'll be sharing with your listeners today.
01:13:43.000Well, I've been a practicing architect for about 20 years, and I've designed a whole lot of steel-framed, fire-protected buildings, including in the Bay Area here.
01:13:56.000We've recently concluded the construction administration for this local high school, steel-framed, $120 million campus.
01:14:07.000And now we've got A project in Nevada with a $360 million project budget construction.
01:14:17.000So, that's going to have 1,200 tons of steel.
01:14:20.000A very, very large project, including some high-rise office and commercial.
01:14:36.000We started talking about Building 7, World Trade Center 7, the last time you and I talked, and what we discovered was that it's a 47-story skyscraper that was not hit by an airplane on 9-11 that dropped 6.5 seconds for almost free-fall speed into its own footprint.
01:14:58.000And we talked about all of the evidence for controlled explosive demolition in that building, including squibs that your listeners can see on our website on the upper right-hand corner, our website being AE911Truth.org.
01:15:18.000Of course, that stands for Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth.
01:15:28.000By the way, I got into this twelve months ago when I heard David Ray Griffin on the radio and he was talking about the World Trade Center towers because the Court of Appeals in New York forced the city to release the oral histories of
01:15:50.000A thousand first responders that were recorded on tape and held in secret by Giuliani and Blomberg.
01:15:59.000Now, the reason they were holding this in secret is because 118 of these first responders were talking about explosions.
01:16:12.000Very specific descriptions of explosions wrapping all the way around the building.
01:16:17.000Near the point of the jet airliner impact.
01:16:21.000And they talk about flashes of light occurring here and there in different ways.
01:16:59.000He talked about the beams that were ejected laterally 500 feet, individually dissected from each other, and ejected up to 500 feet, landing in the buildings beyond, across the street.
01:17:31.000According to the official theory, if you were going to have a gravitational collapse, these beams would not be ejected outside the footprint in a 1,200-foot radius.
01:17:44.000Down below, in a fairly chaotic pile, but a pile nevertheless, we have 110 floors in each of the towers.
01:17:54.000They're composed of 4 and 5 inch thick concrete.
01:17:58.000This material is not found at the bottom of either tower.
01:18:03.000What we have is, the debris field is spread out over this entire area of the World Trade Center Right.
01:18:14.000So, it's quite unbelievable, the official story, because the guy in fact who brought these trusses, that's the forts, the floors, he looked for them because he was hired to do the demolition work, he couldn't find any of them.
01:18:31.000No floor trusses, no microscopic chunks of concrete.
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01:23:25.000Like when we had Lord Rothschild on running the live earth propaganda a few weeks ago and he said that Jupiter, Saturn and Mars are closer to the Sun.
01:23:35.000And he just laughed and said that's the way it is.
01:23:37.000Karl Rove said a few years ago to the Washington Post and New York Times reporters that he controls reality, they say what reality is, and we just follow what they say.
01:23:48.000And that's why they blew up those buildings right in front of us.
01:23:52.000Tower 1 and 2, top-down, Building 7, classic demolition, blowing the bottom as it collapsed into its own footprint.
01:23:59.000They did it right in front of everybody for a theatrical event, and now, literally thousands of engineers and scientists and physicists There's close to 200 members of this group.
01:24:12.000They're going all over North America and all over the planet.
01:24:15.000And the word is spreading and people are looking at the scientific evidence.
01:24:19.000What you were on a few weeks ago with us, Richard, and what percentage of you said the vast majority of your colleagues that when you do show an engineer or an architect the evidence, they're converted because they understand the basic mathematics and the basic engineering?
01:24:37.000Average about 70%, but one firm I went to, there are 15 architects there, virtually all of them agreed with me and signed on to our website.
01:24:48.000And one couldn't because he had a Middle Eastern name and he was concerned.
01:24:54.000The other firm I went to, we had 38 show up, and we had about half of those.
01:25:00.000So it seems to vary, but I only gave the building 7 Information then and I think people are more emotionally tied to the Twin Towers so I'll start with the Twin Towers I think from now on at the Architects.
01:25:13.000We're going to try to hit one architecture firm every other week now and until we reach all of them.
01:25:21.000And in addition to that I will be speaking around the country.
01:25:26.000I'm going to New York the week of 9-11.
01:25:29.000And I'm very excited to be speaking the day after that with Stephen Jones and Kevin Ryan in Indiana on September 10th.
01:25:38.000Then I come back to Oakland at the Grand Lake Theater on September 11th itself.
01:25:45.000And we go down to Santa Cruz September 15th, and it just goes on and on.
01:25:52.000Oh, and we'll be in Cambridge, Massachusetts, hopefully at MIT or Harvard on December 15th.
01:25:59.000And we talked about coming to Austin as well, your neck of the woods.
01:26:07.000So regarding the continued points that I want to make, 18 of them, I've got about 10 more to make just on World Trade Center 1 and 2 alone.
01:26:20.000What we have at the Below the ensuing onset of destruction, which we talked about was explosive and fast, and then, they said, the top of the towers started coming down.
01:26:35.000It wasn't that the top of the towers came down and then it was squirting out of these building materials.
01:26:45.000So what we have, 20 floors or 40 floors down below this wave of collapse, If you will, in quotation marks, destruction, really, is squibs, or explosive ejections of pulverized building material.
01:27:00.000And they occur precisely at the midpoint, interestingly enough, between the corners of the buildings, 20 and 40 floors down.
01:27:11.000We don't just have squib points, what you're saying is they're at the exact points where you place the charges.
01:27:18.000Well, it's curious, actually, because we don't know why these occur exactly at the midpoints.
01:27:25.000We're doing some research to determine that.
01:27:35.000And you wouldn't have that if the NIST theory, National Institute of Science Standards and Technology, gives us their theory that this pile driver, which is 20 to 40 stories High, depending on the tower we're talking about, is pushing down the structure, the air through the elevator shaft.
01:27:53.000No, you have the squib, and then it starts collapsing.
01:27:58.000Well, the squibs occur after the onset of the collapse.
01:28:03.000But NIST is saying that it's a result of air being pushed down through the elevator shaft, which is ludicrous, because if that were the case, The air would fill the open office plan outside of the elevator shaft, and then it would kind of uniformly pressurize the space and blow out many windows.
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01:32:33.000You've heard Troy from West Virginia call in here to the network and say I better not go to New York or You know, it's not going to be good if I do, and you've heard him call into other talk shows here on the network and say he'd like to punch him in the nose and things like that.
01:32:51.000And what he did is, we were calling Richard Gage to have him on.
01:32:55.000And I don't appreciate people messing my show up.
01:33:58.000And so we went on air and then Richard Gage never got on and ended up getting on 15 minutes late because of that.
01:34:06.000So, I'm going to give you the number of the car dealership.
01:34:08.000You've heard Troy call in here before.
01:34:12.000And he's the manager there, by the way.
01:34:14.000When you ask the manager to get in, you need to ask for the owner of the car dealership and you need to explain that we don't like the prank phone calls and impersonating people to get on the radio here and messing up my show.
01:35:15.000And I, let me tell you something, I will take civil action against you.
01:35:20.000Troy, if you impersonate and you call in and screw my show up anymore and you call in back business hotline numbers that you're not supposed to even have and you impersonate people.
01:35:31.000We're not calling up to your office impersonating people that you work with.
01:35:36.000You know, I guarantee you, Troy would probably call the cops if we called in faking the name of a manager or something and messed up some car sale deal or something.
01:36:14.000But what we don't like is you calling up impersonating people on my radio show, on back business lines, keeping us from getting a guest on.
01:36:49.000Okay, 304, call and let the ownership, whoever's above Troy, no, do not get involved in the inner activities of the GCN Radio Network, a corporation owned by Ted Anderson.
01:37:36.000Turnpike Chevrolet, Nitro, West Virginia, 304-755-8301.
01:37:44.000You call him up, we don't appreciate him calling in to our company and impersonating people on business lines, back lines, hot lines, to get on air and prank call this radio show.
01:37:57.000By the way, in many states, prank calls that are malicious are felonies.
01:38:01.000By the way, go Google, prank call felony, pull up laws on West Virginia.
01:38:06.000He also did it in the state of Minnesota and Texas.
01:39:15.000It's all in this incredible quantity of dust, ten times the volume of the building, that is spread out through lower Manhattan and drifted across the river to New Jersey.
01:39:28.000We're talking about 10 to 100 micron particles.
01:39:37.000But this doesn't happen by any kind of a gravitational collapse.
01:39:42.000Neither does the deposit of over 700 bone fragments, human bone fragments, found across the street on the top of the Deutsche Bank building.
01:39:53.000Bone fragments that are only a half an inch long, maximum.
01:39:58.000How, what kind of mechanism reduced these people, who apparently were murdered, clearly were murdered, apparently by some force, some people, I'm sure we'll get to, that apparently were not Al-Qaeda, because Al-Qaeda did not have access to these three buildings, which were almost as highly secure, or the next highest secure, to the Pentagon.
01:40:28.000That's the pulverization of these, including file cabinets, by the way.
01:40:33.000One million file cabinets estimated in these buildings.
01:40:37.000There's none of them down at the bottom.
01:40:39.000The fireman described the biggest piece of the telephone he found was a keypad about two or three inches.
01:40:52.000And I have some of this World Trade Center dust that was given to me.
01:40:56.000By somebody who was in an apartment across the street from the World Trade Center.
01:41:00.000And you can put a magnet over it and all of these tiny, tiny, tiny fragments of metal come up.
01:41:07.000Yeah, the globulins that were discovered when he interviewed her and many others and got the samples, Dr. Stephen Jones.
01:41:14.000Yeah, in fact, let me talk about that because Dr. Jones found in the World Trade Center dust perfectly round microspheres Uh, up to the size of a BB, most of them much smaller.
01:41:26.000Where in the hell did these come from?
01:41:29.000Uh, they're hollow, they're predominantly iron, as he did a chemical analysis, and, uh, they have all of the trace, uh, elements of a aluminothermic reaction, which is what thermite, or thermate, is.
01:41:46.000Now, the, Dr. Jones found, uh, fluorine, uh, zinc, Manganese and several other components in the right chemical proportion that he concludes very clearly that this is indeed the byproduct of the aluminothermic reaction.
01:42:10.000If you were going to try to take a building down and blame it on the fact that fires produce weakness in the steel and therefore we have a gravitational collapse, You would start these charges, the placement of all of these charges, you would do it very quietly, which it turned out not very quiet, but much more quiet than RDX or C4, common explosives in controlled demolition.
01:42:38.000Thermate is a cutter charge used by the military to cut through steel like a knife through butter.
01:42:45.000So you'd place thousands of these at the column and beam connections, which is By the way, why they all appear in these photos and videos as being dissected from one another.
01:42:55.000And then, the explosions apparently happened a fraction of a second later and atomized this molten iron, which is the byproduct of therming.
01:43:06.000And so, in repeated scans, electron microscopes, microprobes, it shows the exact signature from multiple chain-of-custody controlled samples
01:43:18.000From all over the country and even samples he got covertly through government sources that keep showing the same thing, the same signature, where you find these trace elements and trace chemicals and compounds and signatures that are never involved in the melting of steel unless you have these thermate accelerants which are also highly explosive involved.
01:43:38.000And going back to before the last break, when I said that The squibs are preceding the explosions.
01:43:43.000I know that the top's already exploding and collapsing, but I'm saying, as it continues to blow, I mean, you see explosions on the top, then it starts collapsing, and then well below it, as far as, in some cases, ten floors down, you then see them blowing it and atomizing it as it falls, almost like it was, you know, top-down, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
01:44:05.000Oh yeah, yeah, no, that's an excellent point.
01:44:07.000And I wanted to corroborate your other point, FEMA itself found these microspheres in the dust, and the USGS did the chemical analysis for them, and they showed perfectly round spheres too.
01:44:20.000Well, this is how they used to make bullets in the Revolutionary War time.
01:44:24.000They dropped molten lead off a very high, I don't know how high, and it went in a cliff or something, and it went into a vat of water to cool off.
01:44:34.000And the surface tension forms with a molten metal, the perfect sphere, or nearly perfect.
01:44:41.000So all of the evidence seems to point to controlled explosive demolition with the thermite as the cutter charge, and none of the evidence points to and supports the NIST theory.
01:44:59.000If you've got jet fuel with air injected with a bellows, burning at a maximum of 1800 degrees, And then you can't start really melting steel, even getting it soft, until 2750 plus.
01:45:13.000If you have it in splattering spheres, we're talking about 33 or higher, how do you have 2500 plus degree temperatures a month later in molten pits below from fires that wouldn't even melt people who were standing there for 20 minutes waiting for help, supposedly by the hottest fires?
01:45:34.000I mean, this is, it won't melt flesh, but it melts giant Yeah, in fact, John Gross, the head engineer of NIST, National, I mentioned NIST before, he actually claims verbally, and he's on record, and we have added in my presentation, there's no evidence of molten metal, and yet, so what are you guys talking about?
01:45:58.000They have to deny it because there's no explanation for it.
01:46:02.000As you mentioned, there's a thousand to two thousand degree difference In the temperature of office fires versus flowing molten metal.
01:46:10.000And there's also a world of difference between just steel that you get to melt temp, where it oozes, and white hot splattering imperfect globulins.
01:46:30.000Now back to They deny the molten metal completely, even though we have firemen on video saying it's flowing like lava.
01:46:44.000And we have plenty of witnesses describing it, and we have the World Trade Center structural engineer, Leslie Robertson, describing it flowing molten metal.
01:46:55.000There's also four different videos of it pouring out like a foundry, as the firemen say.
01:47:00.000That's right, right out of the South Tower.
01:47:03.000Uh, at the point of impact of the plane shortly before the collapse.
01:47:11.000For cutter charges, you know, just a few minutes before, right before it collapses, suddenly you see it pouring out of orifices, this yellow hot iron, the byproduct of the steel being melted, and then they have, you know, the classic explosives packed with that to then shatter it.
01:47:27.000I mean, clearly, from the experts we've talked to on demolitions, they had both types of explosives, which we now have learned they do in a lot of demolitions.
01:47:35.000And not only that, Dr. Jones found on the slag which was sticking to the steel, which was incorporated in a monument at Clarkston University, and this artist sent him this slag, he found that also it was predominantly iron.
01:47:52.000Also, it had the exact, not exact, but likely proportions of fluorine, manganese, zinc, and barium, which are completely
01:48:05.000By the way, in the top ten list under federal guidelines for arson investigators, state and federal arson investigators, in the top ten things they look for is arson by thermate or thermite, and we've now gotten the handbooks on this, it shows exactly how they look for those derivatives in steel from a melt, because it's one of the favorites of arsonists.
01:48:30.000Well, and FEMA actually helps us corroborate this as well in their report, because they find evidence of intergranular melting, which again requires temperatures over 20 degrees.
01:48:43.000Sulfidation, which is the sulfur deposits from the thermate, and rapid oxidation, which I don't completely understand, but I'm told is direct evidence of extremely hot temperatures not found in any office fires.
01:48:58.000So FEMA hands it to us on a silver platter, and what does NIST do with this information?
01:49:03.000They completely bury it in their follow-up interview, or follow-up report.
01:49:09.000Richard Gage, I want to come back, I want to rock it through the other points you haven't gotten to yet.
01:49:13.000There's so many in this giant mountain of smoking guns.
01:49:16.000And then in the next hour, you want to talk about 9-11, you want to talk about the collapse of the towers.
01:49:20.000Well, you can talk to Richard Gage, a just amazing individual, really having a great effect, actively spending many hours a week going out just in California alone, visiting with all the major architecture and engineering firms, and converting around 70% of those he comes in contact with, with the basic science.
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01:53:39.000Well, we left off with this incredible concrete powder, but The amazing thing about this is that the dust expands at this incredible rate through this pyroclastic flow, and only a tremendous amount of heat can produce this.
01:54:00.000Now there's only so much energy available in a gravitational collapse, so that energy can't go into all four of the following things.
01:54:10.000It can't go into an amazing expansion of clouds, which Jim Hoffman in his amazing, his really exhaustive research site, 911research.com, goes into and says that basically we're looking at, I think it's 10 times the required amount of energy just to expand this I think it's 10 times the required amount of energy just to expand this cloud as is available
01:54:34.000But in addition, the production of all of this molten metal, it can't produce that even, let alone all these things together.
01:54:41.000Basically, it'd be like if somebody shot a cow with an 80mm howitzer and the cow was blown into a splattered mess over 500 yards.
01:54:51.000And then the government told us that somebody shot the cow with a BB gun.
01:55:19.000Oh, crushing the 100,000 tons of intact structural steel It takes more energy than the gravitational, the kinetic available, gravitational available, it takes more than that.
01:55:38.000So I'll slow down and think more clearly.
01:55:41.000What we have is a free fall speed of collapse, meaning that the columns in the structures, in all three of these structures, gave virtually no resistance.
01:55:54.000Structural engineers design these structures to resist not only the loads of wind and earthquake, but the gravity loads of the building itself, and the people, the occupants.
01:56:06.000And this is completely ignored because of the free fall speed.
01:56:11.000Those columns have to be removed a fraction of a second before the pile driver, if you will, up above, is pushing it down.
01:56:21.000Now, in all the videos, in two to three to four seconds, You don't have a pile driver anymore.
01:56:26.000It's disintegrating at the top, such that after that time, all you see, you don't see a pile driver pushing the building down.
01:56:33.000There's no gravitational energy even available.
01:56:37.000What you see is a series of explosions, like a belt around the building, creating this mushroom without any pile driver.
01:56:45.000In fact, in one of the photos, many actually, in videos, you can see small portions of the core structure that managed to remain for a while.
01:57:07.000Your calls straight ahead after Richard Gage, architects, And engineers, for 9-11, truth, ladies and gentlemen, on the other side, 1-800-259-9231, 1-800-259-9231.
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01:57:58.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:02.000Already into the third and final hour, Richard Gage, founder of AE911Truth.org, architects and engineers for 9-11
01:58:26.000Truth, hundreds and hundreds of members now, getting more and more every day and just exponentially growing as they go out and confront engineers and architects with the video evidence, with the diagrams, with the documents on Buildings 7, Tower 1, and 2.
01:58:40.000And we're getting a 70% conversion rate.
01:58:44.000Um, But before we get back into the final points on this and take calls, Richard, the individuals that carried this out, whoever really did this, whoever had access, who had the control of security to be able to stage this event, who had the motive, we know who it is, military-industrial complex, but you as an architect, as a scientist, you just, you know, in this study, you just look at this one area, and I understand that, you're just looking at the scientific facts and then people can politically do what they, you know, will with that political question.
01:59:15.000But the establishment, why do you think whoever did this thought they could get away with blowing up three buildings right in front of everyone, in front of firefighters and police to have huge molten slag running down the channel rails?
01:59:37.000I know they had a purpose, though, because if you look at what happened after 9-11, We're talking about the invasion of two countries that placed the United States in preeminent global position to achieve militarily and the United States' major corporations to achieve economically.
02:00:08.000But I mean, scientifically, the people doing it, why did they think engineers and physicists and scientists and architects would go along with it?
02:00:28.000We look at an apple and we're told by our government that it's an orange.
02:00:33.000And we just go into paralysis, mental, rational paralysis, after being shocked, you know, emotionally, by this incredible series of attacks on our country, on our people, on our iconic institutions and buildings.
02:00:50.000And we're set up, I think, emotionally, to accept what's fed to us.
02:00:58.000And they're experts that are backing the government story up, that produce $20 million three-year studies, which Jim Hoffman, by the way, calls the three-year $20 million cover-up of the crime of the century.
02:01:13.000But then that's got to mean the people that are really compiling these reports, who are engineers in their own right, then they've got to consciously be knowing that they're covering up?
02:02:14.000You don't have to be an architect or engineer.
02:02:16.000We'll categorize you as what we call an Yeah, you have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of those, but over 120 architects and engineers.
02:02:24.000And then of course there's the 9-11 Scholars for Truth and other groups, 9-11 Investigations, all these different groups.
02:02:35.000Some of them have 500 plus engineers and scientists that are members of those different organizations.
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02:06:33.000His little petty threats and all the rest of it.
02:06:36.000He called in on a hotline at the network on a separate business line that we use for the hotline for people to call.
02:06:42.000Because the main 1-800 number doesn't have a caller ID.
02:06:45.000But if you call the office lines that we use as hotlines, which are not public numbers by the way, there's a caller ID on it.
02:06:52.000And so he called in, said he was the guest, got on the air, did his little prank call, and so I gave the number out a couple times, and one time I gave the prefix out incorrectly.
02:08:08.000Uh, who, I mean, literally, man, I don't call up his work and impersonate myself as a manager or something on into the sales department and then start, you know, screwing up what they're doing.
02:08:43.000Going back to our guest, Richard Gage.
02:08:48.000Sir, please continue with the other smoking gun points, then we're going to go to some phone calls.
02:08:52.000Okay, we talked about the concrete coming down.
02:08:59.000What we didn't talk about yet is the blast wave that blew out windows for 400 feet all around the building.
02:09:08.000That alone is also evidence that can stand up in a court of law, very scientific evidence.
02:09:17.000So now, let's shift back to World Trade Center 7, Building 7, because we just briefly flew over that evidence.
02:09:30.000And what we have is the building that I mentioned wasn't hit by an airplane, fell down symmetrically, straight down through the path of greatest resistance.
02:09:40.000Now, buildings, when they do fail, and by the way, do buildings, Well, no steel frame high-rise building has ever failed due to fire, and we have a hundred examples, at least, in the world, where there's been very hot, very large, and very long-lasting fires.
02:10:29.000And yet, these buildings do not fall down.
02:10:34.000So, Los Angeles, First Interstate Bank, burned three and a half hours over five floors.
02:10:40.000Philadelphia in 1991, the Meridian Plaza building, burned 18 hours over eight floors and yet on 9-11 we have three small fires and a lot of smoke in building seven and all of a sudden it comes down in six and a half seconds at virtually free fall speed right through the path of greatest resistance in a classic alignment of controlled demolition.
02:11:10.000In the presentation which is on the two-hour video that you can look at On our website now, you'll see a side-by-side controlled demolition next to Building 7.
02:11:23.000You'll see squibs which go off on the 40th through the 47th floor, synchronistically timed, 4 by 4.
02:11:36.000Just in that timing, these black puffs of smoke in the upper right-hand corner You can see that on the flash video on the right side as soon as you log on to the website.
02:12:06.000The fact that the plane hit the towers is irrelevant.
02:12:10.000In terms of the hotness of the fire, in terms of the jet fuel itself, which doesn't burn more than 1,400 to 1,700 degrees, and NIST even claims that the impact of the jet itself in the twin towers did no lasting damage.
02:12:33.000In fact, the building stood for 56 minutes and 102 minutes after the jet impact.
02:12:38.000What they do say Is that the jet impacts with the kinetic energy of them knocked some of the fireproofing off?
02:12:46.000Well, the jet hit one side of this building, and in the case of the South Tower, the corner.
02:12:53.000It would only have knocked the fireproofing off where it hit.
02:12:57.000And so we might have believed NIST if the building toppled in the direction of the weakness the fireproofing having protected.
02:13:10.000Uh, until it was knocked off the, the, uh, the fire, the, the, uh, the steel.
02:13:16.000And in the case of the South Tower, we did have such a toppling, but then you immediately begin to see that the South Tower, after it tips, being destroyed from the point of airplane impacts up, we would have expected this 40-story mass to continue falling at its angular momentum And fall all the way down to the ground.
02:13:39.000This is a giant steel cage, but instead it blows up.
02:13:49.000I mean, why do they do stuff so obvious right in front of us?
02:13:55.000And we know it's only government and slash private corporations that have access to the buildings that could do this.
02:14:00.000Why do they do stuff just so blatantly obvious?
02:14:05.000I mean, they turned two 110-story buildings into ash in front of us!
02:14:09.000Well, if you want the American people to align with you in invading a couple of countries in the Middle East, you're going to have to shock them into submission, if you will.
02:14:27.000Well, yes sir, I agree with you on that, and we all understand what PNAC said and what they've done, but I mean, why?
02:14:39.000They're enemies of classical Al-Qaeda, where that imaginary supposed group comes from, but there are some real Wahhabist, you know, kookball sects out there.
02:14:49.000Well, that's the same group out of Saudi Arabia.
02:14:52.000Now, they are admittedly on U.S. payroll, admittedly being staged out of eastern Iraq into western Iran.
02:14:58.000The White House admits, and they name the groups by name, which are admitted al-Qaeda, attacking Iran.
02:15:03.000Then the media claims we've got to attack Iran because they're funding al-Qaeda in Iraq, when publicly our government's funding al-Qaeda to attack Iran.
02:15:11.000But when you have both committee chairmen of the House and Senate Armed Services Committees who don't know the difference between a Shiite and a Sunni, I guess they know the general public has no connection to reality on any front.
02:15:24.000But I just wonder if the public knows how dangerous that is to go through life not knowing anything!
02:16:12.000Well, I think there are a lot of Americans who really want to believe that the government is safe, and I was one of those, and I'm questioning everything at this point.
02:16:35.000They're just trusting, and it's kind of like a rat in a rat maze, or a bird in a bird cage, or fish in a fish tank.
02:16:42.000They don't question what's outside that contained world.
02:16:45.000And I think what's happening now, Richard, is people are getting outside now that containment and just questioning.
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02:23:48.000And they said, we hope you freeze your butt off.
02:23:52.000driving in that car, and he says, I hope you crash and die.
02:23:56.000And he says he has nightmares about it to this day because they did crash and die.
02:24:00.000So watch those portents or oaths or things you call out because there's a little more in this world than what you see on just the surface.
02:24:09.000That's why it's very evil to make jokes about dead and dying.
02:24:13.000It's very evil to make jokes about dying Iraqi children.
02:24:16.000I am, in my soul, I am scared to be involved in evil.
02:24:23.000I mean, just in my very makeup, I know what you do comes back on you and comes back on those you love.
02:24:29.000In fact, that's how the universe works.
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02:25:17.000Here's Hugo Bachmann, Professor Emeritus and former Chairman of the Department of Structural Dynamics and Earthquake Engineering at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology.
02:25:27.000He says, in my opinion, the building World Trade Center 7 was, with great probability, professionally demolished.
02:25:35.000Then, over at the World Trade Center, we have two interesting gentlemen.
02:25:42.000Van Romero, a top explosive Expert from New Mexico.
02:25:48.000He says, uh, televised images of the attacks in the World Trade Center suggest that explosive devices caused the collapse of both towers.
02:25:56.000Too methodical, he says, to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structure.
02:26:01.000My opinion is based on the videotapes that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center towers, there were some explosive devices inside the building that caused the towers to collapse.
02:26:13.000Then we have Mike Taylor, a demolition expert.
02:26:16.000Uh, on the New Scientist, uh, 12 September, 01.
02:26:20.000It looked like a classic controlled demolition.
02:26:24.000He's from the National Association of Demolition Contractors.
02:26:27.000We have Kevin Ryan, who found out about an internal report by Underwriting Laboratories that, uh, that FIRE couldn't have done what happened to, uh, Shevin.
02:26:35.000That's a fascinating story because NIST themselves hired Underwriting Laboratories to build four, four different sections Emulating the construction of the World Trade Center.
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02:39:27.000They say in their... This is the scope of their work.
02:39:33.000The focus of the investigation was on the sequence of events from the instant of aircraft impact to the initiation of collapse for each tower.
02:39:41.000For brevity in this report, the sequence is referred to as the probable collapse sequence.
02:39:46.000Although it does not actually include the structural behavior of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached, And collapse became, they say, inevitable.
02:39:58.000So, first of all, they make this incredible assumption that this ensuing grand collapse occurs, and of course it would occur.
02:40:07.000But they have no justification whatsoever in this 10,000 page report.
02:40:13.000They have one and a half pages on this ridiculous assumption, because there's never ever been a collapse of the steel frame structure, a total collapse based on some initiating event.
02:40:46.000So I don't know if that's the Shilazine doing it, but Well, really what it is is a bunch of different minerals and it's formed, you know, dug out of alluvial deposits in the Himalayas from when that was an ancient sea.
02:40:59.000And so I don't know how to, it's also got like biological elements in it from different little microorganism plants that grow.
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02:41:19.000A friend and I got together and we worked out odds of probability on all of this.
02:41:23.000And we figure as a control number, we don't have a control number because it's never happened.
02:41:28.000So we picked a hundred to one chance that a plane would fly into a building, cause it to collapse, something we've never experienced on this planet.
02:41:36.000Then we figured a thousand to one for a second plane on the same day to go into another building and cause it to collapse.
02:41:43.000Then the third building, we had to give it a number of 10,000 to 1 because it's also going to fall by fire with no plane hitting it in free fall.
02:41:52.000You multiply those threes together, you have one billion to one odd if this could ever happen.
02:41:57.000But then calculate in the chances that the government would be running a drill, applying hijacked jets into the very same targets at the exact same time, which they were doing in reality, and on 7-7, and it comes into numbers that are hard for me to even pronounce.
02:42:13.000Oh, they would extend right on out to the end of the universe.
02:42:16.000All eight engines on those planes were never found.
02:42:20.000I sent you a picture this morning of an engine, a crashed plane, where the engine lay right next to a car.
02:42:28.000This engine is twice the size of this car, in complete... Well, in all fairness, they did found an internal part of a jet engine there, or what appeared to be, but... Well, I could pick it up, put it in my truck.
02:42:39.000This thing, you couldn't... Oh, yeah, that little bitty thing, I remember, yeah.
02:42:41.000Yeah, so that's all... So the whole idea of this is just Unbelievable to me.
02:43:23.000I know there are members of the elite structures in the world that don't like what the globalists are doing, so I don't say that's not true.
02:43:29.000I just, it's gotten a lot of attention, which is fine and dandy, and we're going to get on it.
02:44:25.000Is it about seven million in insurance payouts?
02:44:27.000Is it about Anything the globalists do, they do in a cost-benefit analysis, then they cluster events around one big operation they do, and they do a bunch of stuff while that happens.
02:44:37.000You know, two days after they brought China into the World Trade Organization.
02:45:06.000First, I think I have a phrase that's a little more effective than 9-11 was an inside job when we're standing out with our signs, and that is Jumbo jets cannot demolish skyscrapers.
02:45:33.000That's a great analogy, because you have the complete dismemberment of the structure, you have pulverized dust down to 10 microns, Let's say a lumberjack swings and hits a big oak tree, and not only does the one whack cut the tree down, it chops it into sawdust.
02:46:50.000It was a year ago that I heard David Ray Griffin's And it took me nine months of researching to get to the point where we firmly decided to go forward with the website.
02:47:04.000We had a temporary website up for a while.
02:47:06.000I finally got some time and some backing from an incredible series of gentlemen that are helping me.
02:47:32.000In other words, I've got a family, I've got a wife, I've got a kid, and I've got lots of responsibilities besides these two full-time jobs.
02:48:00.000I get confused with my words and my thoughts sometimes.
02:48:04.000And surely there's somebody else, some other architect or engineer out there, He wants to step forward and be the spokesman because I'm looking for lots of help.
02:48:15.000You're an excellent, very well spoken, that's why people are resonating with your message and 120 plus members who are architects and engineers and thousands of others supporting you.
02:48:24.000And you know, leadership, that's who we need as leaders, not those that want it, but those that it literally is thrust upon.
02:48:30.000And you're a leader, Richard Gage, you've taken action.
02:48:33.000And you may, people like you may save this country and this planet with God's help.
02:48:37.000We'll be right back with a few final calls.
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02:53:08.000Emily in Ohio, you're on the air with Richard Gage.
02:53:18.000Okay, well I plan on trying to come up to New York and see you on September 11th.
02:53:23.000And, um, me and my mom were talking with some people yesterday and we heard this thing about that when they have martial law come in, they shut down Walmarts for two hours and then they turn it into like a concentration camp.
02:53:37.000Did you hear this on mainstream radio?
02:53:39.000I might have, me and my wife have... Well, no, I mean, Walmart is involved.
02:53:43.000I remember hearing this 15 years ago, I didn't believe it.
02:53:45.000But I've known for about 10 years, they're involved in continuity of government, and they are going to use them as holding facilities and mass inoculation forced drugging centers.
02:53:55.000Alright, that's what I wanted to talk about.
02:53:57.000They are working with the government, and remember the smallpox shot?
02:54:00.000They were going to make the cops and firemen take it, but they literally, 99.9% L.A.
02:54:05.000Times reported refused, and Walmart was going to be involved in staging areas in that.
02:55:43.000Richard Gage, we're going to have you back up soon.
02:55:46.000I appreciate you spending time with us, and I want to encourage other architects and engineers to check out the organization, AE911Truth.org.