Ed and Elaine Brown have been taken into custody after a tense five day standoff with federal agents in Plainfield, Ohio. What happened to them and why did they surrender to the feds? Alex Jones breaks it all down.
00:00:45.000There have been new big developments in the Ed and Elaine Brown case.
00:00:51.000In the last few minutes, the feds ended a Press conference that was not carried by local radio or TV that we could find.
00:00:59.000We are waiting for either individuals that were at the press conference, local patriots, local members of the truth community to call into this show to let us know what happened.
00:01:09.000We're waiting for the mainstream media to file stories on what the feds reportedly said, The local TV stations generally post later file reports with snippets from the news conferences, so you will be assured that in the next three hours during this transmission, we will detail exactly what happened to them.
00:01:30.000At around 7.30 Eastern last night, the Feds in over 40 SUVs descended on the Browns' home.
00:01:40.000They claim that no violence took place.
00:01:43.000The neighbors say they didn't hear shots.
00:01:44.000That sounds like, that's the way I figured the feds would take them if they were successful, quote, local patriots visiting them that were able to get in, that the feds opened the roadblocks for, would then draw down on them, taser them from behind, beat them from behind, you know, put guns to their heads and apprehend them that way.
00:02:03.000I do not yet know if that is the case, but I'd say there's about a 90% chance that that is the case.
00:02:09.000We hope that's the case because they could have actually been violent with them with firearms and then just told the neighbors to lie or the neighbors may not have heard the gunshots if they were inside watching television.
00:04:11.000Obviously, I have a lot of other really big news to cover here.
00:04:15.000And coming up on the show today, we have Dave Mustang, the lead singer, the founder, The writer for Megadeth, reportedly going to be joining us.
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00:08:02.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:08.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:12.000I've been a little busy today. - I'm sorry, babe.
00:08:23.000Because I found out that somebody in the chain of custody in Austin or in New York ripped off a copy of Endgame and we're starting to put it up on the web.
00:08:33.000I guess they mean well, but that will really devastate us here if someone does that.
00:08:38.000I mean, we put this stuff out for free, but first we've got to sell a few DVDs and have it for members, folks, in higher quality.
00:08:44.000So I've been busy dealing with that, scrabbling around.
00:08:47.000And don't worry, it's been taken down, folks.
00:10:13.000One of them's on the road, one of them's in Congress right now and running a presidential campaign and just raised close to six mil in one quarter, outdoing Mitt Romney and McCain, surging to 6-1 in the Las Vegas odds for president.
00:10:29.000That's from 25-1 four months ago, ladies and gentlemen.
00:10:33.000That trajectory gives him victory of the growth rate continues.
00:10:36.000But in the first segment I was saying, we couldn't find the newscast online.
00:10:44.000We couldn't find the press conference by the feds.
00:10:49.000It's up on PrisonPlanet.com right now.
00:10:52.000Paul Watson was able to find the press conference, he was able to find the reports.
00:10:59.000And so, oh, Steve Watson was as well, so it's up on Infowars.net, that's Infowars.net, originating at Infowars.net, and on PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.com right now.
00:11:13.000Browns were duped by Trojan horse marshals posing as supporters, open door policy allowed officials, You mean Feds to walk in and arrest Ed and Elaine Brown.
00:11:25.000Tax protesters Ed and Elaine Brown were tricked by U.S.
00:11:28.000Marshals who entered their home yesterday afternoon posing as supporters.
00:11:47.000Tax protesters Ed and Elaine Brown were tricked by U.S.
00:11:49.000Marshals who entered their home yesterday afternoon posing as supporters.
00:11:53.000The Marshals entered the house at a time when there were no other supporters present and catching the Browns off guard were able to arrest them and remove them from the property.
00:12:03.000As we reported earlier this morning the speculation was the Browns were infiltrated and tricked before violently subdued as authorities refused to provide any details behind their arrest beside the fact that they did not peacefully surrender.
00:12:17.000And it still goes on, but it has now been reported by WMUR News that, here's the quotes from the federal marshals, and we'll go to Paul Watson, let's see if we can get Steve on because he saw this.
00:12:31.000Ultimately, and then go up to Infowars.net right now for me, John, go ahead and grab that newscast.
00:12:37.000Ultimately, the open-door policy that they seemed to have, which allowed the Browns to have some supporters bring them supplies, welcome followers, and even host a picnic, this proved to be their undoing.
00:12:49.000They invited us in, we escorted them out.
00:12:55.000A small team of marshals pulled off the ruse Assisting the Browns without incident on the couple's front porch, Monnier told local press.
00:13:07.000Reports are suggesting that weapons had been seized at the property, including explosive devices, booby traps, which were placed in the woods.
00:13:13.000Monnier added the Browns may face further charges relating to the weapons.
00:13:17.000Monnier also added that officials, officials, authorities, we're the slaves and servants, Paul Watson, thank you for coming on with us.
00:13:49.000I guess we lost the line to England, because I know he and his brother have been working more on this in the last 45 minutes, so we will get him on to, again, give us his take on what's happening there.
00:14:03.000or So, top story on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.net right now.
00:14:10.000Browns were duped by Trojan Horse Marshals posing as supporters.
00:14:22.000The problem here is that they had massive support, and everyone was against the Feds going in and murdering them, Waco style.
00:14:30.000But then when the Browns started saying, well, we're shooting into the woods and we see movement, well, what if a family was coming in to support them, or a neighbor, or somebody walking their dog?
00:14:39.000There's houses, you know, 100 yards away, 200 yards away.
00:15:29.000You don't have families out there running around eating hamburgers.
00:15:33.000I'm not going to send people somewhere where they can get killed.
00:15:36.000I said, if men want to go out there, that's your business.
00:15:39.000And I said, we ought to have press conferences and get attention.
00:15:41.000And I commend Randy Weaver, in fact, let's try to get him to pop in today, for going up there and trying to bring attention to this so it could end peacefully.
00:16:44.000They were going to have it streamed live on WMUR.
00:16:50.000New Hampshire 9 TV station website but then they changed the location so it wasn't streamed live but they're saying it's going to be up on their website soon so I haven't seen it but what we do... We just now got it so we'll IM it to you so you can post it in your brother's report on InfoWars.net but go ahead.
00:17:09.000Yeah we just got all the press reports that came out about an hour and a half ago.
00:17:17.000So I was up on the prison planet about, you know, an hour ago.
00:17:22.000So, yeah, basically they, they, uh, as we predicted earlier, because obviously I woke up and learned that they'd been arrested.
00:17:31.000So a lot of times the best information that you can get when nothing's being reported on something is by going to the message board.
00:17:41.000So I went to the prison planet message board and people were speculating that You know, because Ed Brown had said he would fight to the death rather than surrender, how was it possible for the Marshals to go in and peacefully, as we're told, arrest them?
00:17:58.000So, obviously, the logical conclusion was that they posed as supporters and just went in there as a Trojan horse, and it turns out that that's exactly what happened.
00:18:10.000If the Feds wanted to get the Browns, when they had those 300 people on their property, I'll bet bottom dollar there were 20 marshals and FBI there then.
00:18:19.000And they've had FBI coming in in overalls, posing as hillbillies, and then openly saying, I'm FBI, you, you, you, you, you, Constitution Rangers are wimps.
00:18:33.000And a lot of the people getting them rounds to shoot their mouths off about violence no doubt were feds, and we've tracked that back.
00:18:39.000And I'm just so tired of watching patriots fall into traps, but I'm just glad that they weren't able to go in there and murder all of them.
00:18:49.000Yeah, I thought the Feds wanted to have this quiet down and try to end this peacefully until they flew the helicopter low for eight hours at 30 feet before they shot people with tasers, shot at Danny Reilly.
00:19:02.000And then now this seems like a de-escalation that they didn't cap them.
00:19:06.000And I think that's because the Marshals are genuinely worried about people coming after them.
00:19:11.000And that is the safer move and the right move to not bust a cap in both of them, as we know the Feds are apt to do.
00:19:20.000Uh, just that people are still asking questions which haven't been answered about, you know, if they were violently subdued because the U.S.
00:19:29.000Marshal Monnier admitted that they had not surrendered, which suggests that they at least put up some resistance.
00:19:36.000So people are asking questions about how they were subdued before their actual arrest.
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00:24:03.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:24:10.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:24:13.000We've got some of the press conference.
00:24:21.000It's been posted up on prisonplanet.com.
00:24:27.000The Chicago Tribune, the Boston Globe have all reported that documents have come out that indeed Israel attacked the USS Liberty knowing it was a U.S.
00:25:14.000Well, I mean, they live to fight another day, but, you know, it's 63 months in prison.
00:25:20.000No doubt they're going to Keep on a bunch of other charges, because now they're already, the Monier was out saying that they'd found explosives and high-caliber weapons and that the whole property was booby-trapped.
00:25:35.000So no doubt that 63-month prison sentence is just, you know, just for starters, but obviously it's a relief that it didn't end in bloodshed.
00:25:47.000Maybe it's a portent for how they'll treat similar cases in the future.
00:25:53.000And if there are more Ed and Elaine Browns out there, you know, if there are so many, then it gets to a point where they can't keep track of everyone.
00:26:02.000So their example stands out as a shining light to everyone.
00:26:06.000And the courage that they displayed throughout the whole standoff was admirable.
00:26:17.000But I wish they wouldn't have let themselves be set up.
00:26:22.000Because there's no doubt that the feds were in there trying to provocateur and get them to shoot their mouths off.
00:26:29.000And there's no doubt now that they fell into that trap.
00:26:32.000Because if they would have been peaceful in their statements all along, there wouldn't be all these added added charges now cascading down onto them.
00:26:41.000And I would love to say the feds made up the pipe bombs, but because they've been caught doing it and admitted on the stand, they buried pipe bombs on people's property before and framed a lot of people.
00:26:51.000We've had Dr. Frederick Whitehurst, former head of the FBI crime lab, on years ago to talk about how they frame people.
00:26:56.000But when Brown and others were openly shooting their mouths off about this, let me tell you, it was not helpful for those of us that were trying to de-escalate the situation.
00:27:09.000Well, no, and the Fed seized on that for intimidation purposes after they started arresting the Browns' supporters because of this violent rhetoric, so yeah, they could have played it differently in that sense, and obviously the dwindling amount of supporters Well, they wouldn't even let the media in anymore, and that's just plain stupid.
00:27:30.000You always want to get people to keep talking.
00:27:33.000Without that intimidation, a lot of people stopped going to their aid.
00:27:37.000So that could have played out differently.
00:27:39.000Well, they wouldn't even let the media in anymore.
00:27:49.000But, I mean, you've obviously got to look at it from their perspective.
00:27:53.000If you've been holed up there in their home for that amount of time with all the threats flying around, then you're going to get paranoid.
00:28:02.000And that's going to, you know, affect your thinking and affect your strategy.
00:28:07.000So I just look at them as being incredibly courageous, but relieved in the sense that it didn't end in a Waco 2.
00:28:16.000But now they live to fight another day after they eventually get out of prison.
00:28:25.000Well, I think they're going to be in prison a long time.
00:28:27.000We need to make sure that they get support in a proper defense.
00:28:35.000I mean, they're going to try to put all sorts of sentences on them now because of statements that were made and things that were done.
00:28:46.000But I'll be interested to find out who was posing as patriots all along and was really FBI and federal marshals.
00:28:53.000In all these newscasts and clips, I'm trying to read through them, Paul, do we know how many people first subdued them before all the hundreds of police came on the scene?
00:29:02.000All it says is a small team of marshals, so I'm guessing, you know, three, four, five.
00:29:08.000Because if they get a big group of guys walking up to the house, obviously they're going to get suspicious, so I don't think it would have been any more than four or five individuals, maximum.
00:29:23.000Well, I tell you, a lot of bravery on both sides.
00:29:27.000Because usually the feds would just burn the building down in the past, like they tried at Ruby Ridge, like they did at Waco, because they're too scared to actually get up close to their quarry.
00:29:38.000So while I despise the feds for their criminal actions, I am at least glad they didn't kill them, and I'm glad they didn't burn the place down.
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00:34:33.000Israel didn't tell the full story of the deadly 1967 incident.
00:34:39.000And it continues that Bryce Lockwood, Marine Staff Sergeant, Russian language expert, recipient of the Silver Star for heroism, ordained Baptist minister, is shouting into the phone, I'm angry!
00:34:54.000Forty years and I'm still seething with anger.
00:34:58.000Lockwood was aboard the USS Liberty, the most highly decorated U.S.
00:35:01.000history, I would add, a super-secret spy ship on station in the eastern Mediterranean when four Israeli fighter jets flew out of the afternoon sun to strafe bomb and then the virtually defenseless vessel on June 8, 1967, the fourth day of what would become known as the Six-Day War.
00:35:21.000Yeah, they attacked with Mirage, they attacked with Daesan missile re-bombers, they attacked with patrol boats, they attacked and attacked and attacked and attacked for hour after hour.
00:35:31.000And now there have been some big new developments.
00:35:35.000Now we've interviewed admirals involved, and we've interviewed the judge advocate generals involved, and those who were told to whitewash the whole thing.
00:35:41.000We've interviewed so many people, many of them have died now.
00:35:44.000The captain of the ship, and we've interviewed Admiral Thomas More, later to become Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff.
00:35:54.000Really, I've been interviewing people for 10 years, but this has been going on for 40.
00:35:57.000And joining us is that individual who was in the Chicago Tribune and other papers around the country, and who was on that ship 40 years ago.
00:36:09.000Sir, I appreciate your service to this country, and I appreciate your continuing to honor those that died that day and those that were wounded that day by speaking out.
00:36:21.000Instead of me getting into these new revelations, if you could, just set the table for those that don't know what happened with the Liberty in a few minutes, and then walk through the denials, the attacks on the heroes, those that have spoken out, and then what this new info means.
00:36:35.000Well, basically, the new info is transcripts of voice intercept tapes that were taken by both a Navy airborne collection platform and an Air Force airborne collection platform.
00:36:49.000National Security Agency had denied for years that they had the tapes, and yet here they turned up under a Freedom of Information Act after 40 years has expired.
00:37:02.000The Israelis clearly identify the ship as American and attacked it anyway.
00:37:08.000And this is outside Israeli waters, in international waters, in the Mediterranean?
00:37:12.000We were about 13.7 miles off the Sinai coast when we were attacked.
00:37:19.000There are some of us now that think the primary reason for Israel attacking us, they had captured an entire Egyptian brigade, somewhere in excess of 850 men.
00:37:51.000Now, that's the report I always got from the admirals and the captain and people ten years ago.
00:37:56.000Over time, though, most of the heroes of the Liberty also believed that there was a plan to then go ahead and blame it on Egypt and then escalate the war.
00:39:00.000Every time it comes up, it's a very dangerous subject.
00:39:02.000And I know that McGonigal wouldn't talk very much about that.
00:39:07.000Captain McGonigal, I firmly believe he very much deserved the Medal of Honor for his entire conduct Throughout the attack and until Admiral Kidd came aboard.
00:39:22.000From the time that Admiral Kidd joined the ship before she even reached Malta, a lid was clamped on everything.
00:41:36.000There were 840 large caliber strikes on the ship.
00:41:42.000A couple of those were napalm that destroyed all of our life rafts.
00:41:50.000There was nothing left of the life rafts but shreds from the napalm.
00:41:55.000The torpedo boats, there were over 3,100 large caliber machine gun strikes.
00:41:59.00050 caliber machine gun strikes Actually, I think they say they're a 30mm cannon, but it's about equivalent to the American .50 caliber machine gun bullet.
00:42:30.000Before you fire the ship at sea, you look up on Jane's Fighting Ships and find out the target that you're firing on.
00:42:38.000It would be just like walking downtown with a pistol in your hand and finding a cop and throwing his head away and then claim, well, I thought he was robbing a bank.
00:42:46.000That's about the equivalent of what the Israelis were doing to us.
00:42:49.000Go to James Fighting Ships, look that number up, GTR-5, it will say in there, Auxiliary, which means she's a non-combatant, General Technical Research, in the fifth ship of her class, the newest and most modern of her class.
00:43:02.000Well, what, five, six years ago, an Israeli pilot came out and admitted that three times he refused to fire, and they said go ahead and do it, so that was, you know, open and shut there, but now we have these communiques released.
00:43:26.000And talking to the others, but this is for memory, I want to make sure I'm correct, because it was a war zone, wasn't the ship flying an unusually large flag?
00:43:37.000The flag that was flying in the initial air attack was knocked down.
00:43:43.000Then the holiday flag was run up, which is the largest flag you have aboard ship.
00:43:50.000I'm not exactly sure of the size, but I think it's something like 20 feet by 30 feet or 16 by 30 feet, something of that nature.
00:44:37.000He's the one that wrote the thesis for a doctorate from the University of Miami, and that never should have been granted because I understand that he was there for economics, and yet he wrote this thesis on the liberty of how it was an accident, quote-unquote, and got his doctorate.
00:45:09.000Some say more than that, some say a little less than that.
00:45:11.000I think, actually, from the time that the first shot was fired until the last shot was fired, was very close to two hours.
00:45:22.000You know, sometimes when we have a news story this big on air, I don't have words to describe just how important it is.
00:45:29.000This has been a 40-year fight for justice.
00:45:32.000Here it is, out in the open, NSA aircraft intercepts, Can you specifically go through more of, and you know, plus you were trained in intercepting different intercepts, so you're specifically the perfect guest for this, not just one of the heroes and victims of this, but also you're an expert in intercepts.
00:45:50.000Can you speak to us how these are intercepted, why they're so important?
00:45:57.000Well, the Israelis had a nuclear weapon, and I suppose were threatening to use it.
00:46:06.000And the Soviets had, excuse me, an ICBM submarine off Israel loaded with nuclear weapons.
00:46:29.000But the captain of that submarine was ordered, if Israel uses the nuclear weapons, incinerate it.
00:46:37.000So here is the makings of World War III right on the doorstep.
00:46:44.000And for anyone with a lick of common sense to think that we're not going to make sure we've got all the bases covered is rather presumptuous.
00:46:53.000We had Air Force reconnaissance planes, we had Navy reconnaissance planes, we had the USS Liberty making sure that all the bases were covered, that if any information was out there of impending hostilities it would Border on World War 3.
00:47:13.000You're... Well, I started using X-Men.
00:47:17.000So, all this is being recorded, probably more tapes than just these aircraft, obviously.
00:47:23.000You've got the big hot zone in the world at that time, a major war going.
00:47:27.000Now, what about hours later when the Israeli commando helicopters show up with commandos on board In their assault gear, a lot of the other heroes of the Liberty and officers believe that it was the Russian spy ship observing this that did finally cause the Israelis to abort because they knew the Russians would report that.
00:47:45.000There was a Russian destroyer that had been shadowing us our entire trip from the time we left the road to Spain until we were on station.
00:47:52.000There was a Soviet destroyer that was shadowing us.
00:47:55.000And it's quite obvious that they were keeping an eye on things and listening in also.
00:48:00.000As a matter of fact, they were one of the first ones to offer us aid, which the captain refused.
00:49:30.000And more machine gun fire, and I found out later that the Israeli torpedo boats had riddled those life rafts and carried off what was left of them.
00:49:39.000Now see, I've been told that by the admirals, by the first mates, by the doctor, and then I get attacked by the news media saying I just made that up.
00:49:49.000That they didn't shoot up the life rafts.
00:50:41.000Bruce Lockwood, he was in the Marines on that ship, in the spy box, down in the ship, seeing all this unfold 40 years ago, and now the truth's come out.
00:50:54.000We'll be right back when the truth is exactly what these heroes said it was.
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00:54:30.000I've got the Chicago Tribune here in front of me, and it's got the Chicago Tribune, one of their experts who, you know, deciphers Israeli, who's Israeli himself, reading it, and he's just going over, listening to the tapes.
00:54:48.000And it says it's an American ship, just as the pilot years ago had said.
00:54:57.000And they're told, no, go ahead and attack it.
00:55:00.000And we're going to read part of this transcript coming up in the next hour.
00:55:07.000Now, if it can be shown that American naval officers and politicians knew about all this beforehand, which we know in Executive Session they did, I think there needs to be criminal charges against them.
00:55:17.000I mean, this is covering up war crimes.
00:55:20.000This is becoming accessories after the fact.
00:55:39.000We were talking during the break, what are some of the other key points that need to be made here about war crimes?
00:55:44.000The machining of life rafts, machine gunning of life rafts, machine gunning of stretcher bearers and first aid personnel while they were trying to rescue wounded, the use of napalm, the ignoring of internationally recognized Signs of friendly ships at sea.
00:56:16.000The USS Liberty Veterans Association, through legal counsel, retired Navy Admiral Merlin Starring, and another retired Navy Admiral by the name of Mark Hill, drew up the war crimes charges for the Liberty Veterans Association and they were presented formally On June the 8th of 2005.
00:56:42.000It is the duty of the Secretary of the Army to investigate any war crimes charges that are brought by United States citizens or military personnel.
00:56:51.000By the way, the guys writing it up have been at the highest levels of the naval JAG hierarchy.
00:57:56.000There was only one investigation, and that was the one conducted by the Admiral Kidd Court.
00:58:02.000And the conclusions were predetermined by the Johnson administration.
00:58:07.000Actually, I believe Lyndon Johnson himself.
00:58:09.000Well, Lyndon Johnson, I talked to the two admirals that heard it, came on the line and said, that Judy ship's going to the bottom before we help it.
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01:00:02.000Huge news right now, ladies and gentlemen, out of the Chicago Tribune a few days ago.
01:00:07.000I mentioned it, but I really wanted to save it, the story, until we got this particular gentleman on, who we haven't interviewed before.
01:00:13.000We've interviewed much of the survivors of the crew, from first mates to doctors to admirals who took the calls from LBJ.
01:00:20.000The NSA has released spy aircraft tapes of the Israeli pilots to ground control.
01:00:27.000Being ordered, they're saying it's an American.
01:00:31.000And that they did know from the onset of the attack in 1967, 40 years ago, what was happening.
01:00:39.000And so joining us is Bryce Lockwood, Marine Staff Sergeant, Russian language expert, recipient of the Silver Star for Heroism.
01:00:46.000This is a short segment, so let's get into that.
01:00:48.000I remember interviewing two of the admirals who were on the ship, took the call.
01:00:51.000Talking to others who had talked to them about it and their admissions So but but people hear this and they still can't believe it and the two different stories are only differ in a couple of words It's either LBJ says over the phone.
01:01:06.000Don't help that ship I don't care if it goes to the GD bottom to I want that ship going to the GD bottom and those tapes of those admirals and people saying that are all on my website Now I know you were in the belly of the ship under attack in the spy box, but what happened?
01:01:22.000Well, perhaps I should try and give you some quotes from Commander Lewis, who is the operations officer.
01:01:29.000We were both medevac to the carrier America.
01:01:32.000While we were there, Admiral Geist, who was commander of Sixth Fleet, called Commander Armstrong into his stateroom and swore him to secrecy.
01:01:42.000He said, you're not to say anything about this conversation until after my death.
01:01:48.000But I want you to know, we did our best to get rescue aircraft to you.
01:01:53.000And then he quoted President Johnson as saying, I don't care if the GD ships sinks and every man drowns, I will not have my allies embarrassed.
01:02:29.000I just want to try to flesh that out a bit.
01:02:30.000But regardless, he's saying, I don't care if it goes to Judy Bottom, I don't want to embarrass our allies, and he indeed ordered the aircraft back.
01:02:39.000It's my understanding that Admiral McCain, Senator McCain's father, at the time was commander of U.S.
01:02:51.000I believe he was at London, England at the time.
01:02:55.000Admiral McCain is the one who ordered the aircraft back.
01:02:59.000Admiral Geist, who was Commander Sixth Fleet, said, this is an American ship, it's under attack, I want to hear that from higher authority.
01:03:07.000Robert McNamara told him the same thing, get those rescue aircraft back.
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01:07:23.000up on our websites, prisonplanet.com and infowars.com, and you can go through the transcript of the tapes, and the NSA has declassified it.
01:07:45.000You still have to get special authorization, unless you do a FOIA request, then you get it.
01:07:49.000And digging through them, And we find things like Operation Northwoods.
01:07:55.000A plan Kennedy said no to, and then it was mentioned why he was killed, to hijack jets by remote control, bomb DC, kill Marines, carry out sniper attacks.
01:08:05.000This was an operation that got green-lighted all the way through McNamara to the President.
01:08:31.000I have a copy of a transcript from the Kennedy years of a conversation between then General Curtis LeMay and the Commandant of the Marine Corps, General David M. Shoup.
01:08:44.000And the conversation went something along the lines of setting up a ship to be attacked by the Soviets and blaming it on them and then precipitating a major world event.
01:08:57.000Now, see, I didn't know that, and that's why history is so big.
01:09:02.000You try to study one period and say Roman history or Japanese history, you'll, in your whole lifetime, you can't learn it all.
01:09:08.000And there, I just learned from you, you just learned from me.
01:09:11.000Yeah, Operation Northwoods, they were gonna basically carry out 9-11 style attacks, and We even have people board aircraft, but they had all sorts of stuff.
01:09:22.000Kill astronauts, blame it on the Soviets.
01:09:25.000Yeah, just Google Operation Northwoods, ABC News, Baltimore Sun reported on it.
01:09:29.000Very, very interesting is all I can say.
01:09:34.000That particular incident is news to me, but I'm certainly going to try and look that up.
01:09:41.000I know I'm catching you off guard, but maybe after the show you can think of where it is and tell me, sir, or email me.
01:09:47.000Where specifically can I find the head of the Air Force, who is an admitted psychopath, talking to someone else about staging events?
01:09:56.000That was Commander of the Marine Corps, General David Shoup.
01:10:00.000I'll have to do some digging to find that for you, Alex, but that shouldn't be that much of a problem.
01:10:05.000I can come up with that and see to it that you get a copy.
01:10:08.000Our folks can probably look forward to it and post it in the Prison Planet Forum.
01:10:14.000We started mentioning that earlier in the segment, but now we have the transmissions of the Israelis.
01:10:19.000I'm sitting there looking at them in the Chicago Tribune saying that, just as the pilot said years ago, that it was an American ship.
01:10:29.000There should be a complete investigation done by Congress.
01:10:44.000You can't get a Congressman to touch it.
01:10:48.000I think that if you go through the records of most Congress people, where their contributions come from, they're required by law to be made public.
01:10:56.000I think you'll be shocked at how much money our Congress people and Senators are getting from the American-Israel Political Affairs Committee.
01:11:08.000It is absolutely shocking how much power they have.
01:11:11.000I just found out recently, I graduated from the same college as Dr. Jerry Falwell, Baptist Bible College in Springfield, Missouri, and I was just informed recently that Jerry Falwell was paid off quite handsomely by the Israelis for his complete unquestioned backing of the State of Israel, to the tune of a Learjet aircraft worth 1.6 million dollars.
01:11:41.000Yeah, all total, Israel's given him over 4 mil that we know of.
01:11:48.000And it's the same thing with other preachers around the country, and Now we have known dual citizens running almost every major federal department.
01:12:01.000I wasn't aware that there was quite that much money that had been given to Dr. Fawlow, but that would certainly explain why he comes on television even after his death and advocates people donating $350 to get a Soviet person of Jewish extract but that would certainly explain why he comes on television even after his death and advocates people donating $350 to get a Soviet person of Travel back to Israel and set up their citizenship in Israel.
01:12:26.000Well, you know, I've been criticized because I don't hate Israel.
01:12:29.000I know most governments are corrupt throughout history.
01:12:55.000I mean, I'm saying I'm brought up a Baptist, I'm brought up, you know, literally being taught to worship Israel at church, and I have Jewish friends, I know half the folks in Israel are against all these wars, but yes, it's just like we've had criminal governments, just like Germany's had bad governments, it is not a sin, and you're a pastor, and so tell me if I'm correct to say that To rebuke Israel when it's corrupt and evil.
01:13:23.000And they should be rebuked very strenuously for the war crimes that they've committed against the people of Lebanon, against the United Arab Republic back in the Six Days War in 1967.
01:13:37.000I don't understand why, excuse me, I'm getting some age on me now, I'm My mind gets a little fuzzy from time to time.
01:13:46.000I can't recall who the President of Egypt was at the time of the Six Days War, but he was anxious to get back to Sinai Peninsula after the war, and there was the accords with Menachem Begin and Jimmy Carter, and the President of Egypt were all given the Nobel Peace Prize for settling
01:14:11.000the deal over the Sinai Peninsula, which was given back to Egypt after Israel taken it during the Six Days War.
01:14:19.000But it would just seem to me as though if I had been in negotiations, I would have brought up the deal about the massacre at El Erish and asked for an explanation on that and demanded that some people be brought to trial. - Well, I've had the weird I've had the weird spin which is now the dominant group, you know, Baptist types, tell me, okay, the Israelis did kill those people to stop them from getting the massacre news and to attack Egypt.
01:14:48.000You're not with the Soviets and the Egyptians.
01:15:00.000We had a discussion here in Springfield at one of the major Springfield libraries last fall.
01:15:07.000Dr. Ray McGovern, who is a retired CIA senior officer, it was his job to brief the vice president, the secretary of state, and secretary of defense, I believe, on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Tuesday and Thursday.
01:15:41.000was here in Springfield and brought up the question the attack on Liberty and oh oh Alex I'm sorry just lost my train of thought hey it's okay I understand there's a lot going on looking here at the Chicago Tribune going through the transcript it has the aircraft bombing and they bomb it the first time I They've already said it's American.
01:16:10.000And the teletype, it says the transcript, Block remembered seeing, we're teletypists, way beyond top secret, some kind of pilots did not want to attack, Block said.
01:16:22.000The pilot said, this is an American ship, do we still want to attack?
01:16:25.000And the ground control came back and said, yes, follow orders.
01:16:29.000And it goes on to say after the ship had gotten radio out, that they panicked and wanted them to finish off the job.
01:16:36.000You know, that after you guys were able to string a wire and get the message off, that then the Israelis really panicked and said, hurry up, kill them!
01:16:45.000I don't doubt that in the least, Alex.
01:16:50.000Oh gosh, I'm sorry, my mind just keeps going blank.
01:16:53.000And it says right here, it says, but sir, it's an American ship!
01:16:58.000Some of those pilots were trained right here in the United States.
01:17:02.000And they certainly must have had some friendships they struck up while they were going to pilot school here in the United States.
01:18:10.000Well, for anybody that doubts that in this corrupt society now that our police won't follow orders and things like that, you better think twice, folks, because Because I'll just follow orders no matter what.
01:18:21.000It just really causes bad things to happen.
01:18:24.000Lyndon Johnson and Secretary McNamara should have been tried for treason for the Liberty incident.
01:18:31.000I want to come back in a final five-minute segment with you, sir.
01:18:34.000I really appreciate Bryce Lockwood, one of the heroes of the USS Liberty, for joining us.
01:18:38.000To talk about any other key points that we've missed or have a discussion on the other side, then we're scheduled to have the Congressman Ron Paul popping in for the segment and then Dave Mustang.
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01:23:25.000Incredible that even the Chicago Tribune has got the transcripts where they didn't want to attack, were ordered to, just as one of the pilots went public seven years ago and admitted.
01:23:34.000But still the neocons said, no, no, Israel-levelism was sweet when their own pilot admitted it.
01:23:40.000They were ordered three times, attack.
01:23:44.000But George Butler, who has a show right here on the Genesis Network Saturday nights, a friend of mine for many years, I guess I ought to talk to people more.
01:23:51.000I didn't know... I knew George had been in the military.
01:23:53.000I didn't know George was involved with the Liberty.
01:23:55.000At least heard some of this and saw some of it happen.
01:23:57.000Uh, George, we've just got a few minutes here.
01:23:59.000Tell your story real fast to, uh, Mr. Lockwood.
01:24:37.000Now talking to your friends, George, who are in your old unit, what did they say they heard?
01:24:42.000Well, we have a meeting monthly, we used to up in Richardson, Texas, with a bunch of Army Security Agency people, and discussing it, you know, with them.
01:24:52.000They were hearing the attack, and they were hearing sometimes both sides of the communications.
01:24:59.000This is up on a high mountain there, close to Ethiopia.
01:25:33.000You have to dig down into the NSA site to really find the Liberty Memorial section.
01:25:40.000I've been after this thing for years myself.
01:25:43.000Like, Carl Wickersworth came out years ago and I sent him a bunch of information, KTSA and San Antonio, so this has been really dear to my heart too.
01:25:53.000Thank you so much for calling, George.
01:25:56.000Anyway, I understand your predicament, and you being there on The Best Will I Know, it was really... George, you ought to... You really get a kick into the truth, don't you?
01:26:03.000You ought to get Bryce Lockwood on your show.
01:26:06.000If it's alright, I can have John at the network.
01:26:08.000Bryce, is it okay if we give George your number?
01:26:52.000I mean, you've told much of what we already have confirmed by other sources in the new developments and a few other interesting tidbits, but the bottom line, what are the defenders of the bad actions of Israel going to do now?
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01:34:18.000Or did you think you could win from the start?
01:34:20.000Well, I always think there's, you know, that you can't predict the future, and therefore I never say, oh, you can't win, or I will win, so I sort of avoid the two extremes.
01:34:30.000But I would say that it's doing much better than I had anticipated.
01:34:34.000I was rather cynical about it all, because you and others have always said, run, run, run.
01:34:39.000And I said, well, I don't know if our numbers are strong enough, and I don't know whether the young people will rally.
01:34:45.000So I was too pessimistic, and there were more people who were already informed.
01:34:51.000I'm really impressed by how many new people come in.
01:34:54.000The new people are flocking to us, and I think this means that the young people are a lot smarter than we give them credit for.
01:35:01.000They're realizing that we've dumped on them, and they realize, look, they're inheriting.
01:35:06.000So I think this has all just come together, and then with radio talk shows and the Internet has just made this thing grow by leaps and bounds.
01:35:41.000And now that we have proven that we could raise money, you know, they always claimed there were just a few of us out there that cared and that they were bloggers and they were manipulating the Internet.
01:35:51.000And, well, you can't manipulate to the point where you get 35,000 new donors who average about $40 a piece.
01:35:59.000You know, the other ones that raise a lot of money, you have to realize they get their money from those who want to buy government, you know, the special interests.
01:36:11.000That's why they'll invest 60, 70, 80 million dollars.
01:36:14.000where the miraculous thing about this is people are coming to us just to be free, you know, just to be left alone, to be able to keep their own money and do the necessary things like sound money and low taxes and property rights and assume responsibility for ourselves.
01:36:29.000And that, to me, is the wonderful thing about what's happening.
01:36:34.000If there was ever a time to pile on, if there was ever a time to rush the gates, ladies and gentlemen, Ron Paul can win the nomination.
01:36:42.000Then people say, yeah, but there's electronic voting machines for canary.
01:36:45.000Not in every county in about a third of the country, but still, if the poll numbers are high enough, they're not going to be able to steal elections.
01:36:53.000I really know, intellectually, following this trajectory, that if the growth continues at this current rate, and that's what Las Vegas is saying, and they can't be wrong because they got bets being placed on it, you're going to get the Republican nomination.
01:37:07.000Well, you know, that is a distinct possibility, but I also know that a lot of work has to be done.
01:37:14.000We have to translate what we've done so far into actual voting in the primaries.
01:37:19.000So, it's not smooth sailing, but it certainly is possible, and at the rate we're going, there's a very good chance.
01:37:27.000Would you say that it's accurate to make the statement that you are definitely, that we are definitely with you in the fight?
01:37:34.000I don't think there's any doubt about it.
01:37:36.000I think that the group of people who are with us are growing all the time.
01:37:42.000You know, the media always wants to ask me, what is your target?
01:37:47.000Do you have to be first in New Hampshire before you'll drop out?
01:37:51.000I said, no, I haven't even thought about things like that.
01:37:53.000As long as we keep growing and improving and our numbers are growing and we raise the funds, you stay in there until mathematically something forces you to be excluded.
01:38:06.000Well, by every indicator of grassroots, whether it's IP one-vote internet voting, which I think is more scientific than a lot of the, you know, Angus and Reed and Gallup-type polls, by every other indicator of grassroots, whether it's MySpace or YouTube or Meetup or Town Hall or Facebook, you are dwarfing, in almost every case, you have more members and more supporters in all those grassroots communities than all the other candidates combined with both parties!
01:38:35.000It makes you wonder how the polling is done, because if the polling is honest, then you wonder where's the disconnect.
01:38:43.000But maybe the polling isn't absolutely accurate, maybe they're not polling the people that are likely to vote.
01:38:49.000But I think once we get a supporter, the percentage chance of them voting are much greater than those who are so disgruntled.
01:38:57.000The disgruntled Democrats and the disgruntled Republicans.
01:39:01.000I foresee a low turnout if you don't have somebody there that will really champion our cause and really want to change in direction, because I think the longer this campaign goes on, the more mellow everybody becomes.
01:39:23.000They don't want to talk about monetary policy, and there's so little said.
01:39:28.000So for that reason, I think The people get more disgusted than those people who have finally figured it out that we're going in the wrong direction.
01:39:34.000I think they're coming to our campaign.
01:39:39.000Six, seven months ago when you first announced, it was common sense to me, but now the oddsmakers have said it, a lot of political analysts have said it, the Republicans really aren't running against Hillary.
01:39:58.000Clearly, the establishment's saying this is a non-campaign, but then all the oddsmakers and experts are saying, but Ron Paul, he could beat Hillary.
01:40:08.000They're saying that if you, they've been always right in the past, could get the nomination, you would beat her because you're anti-war and you're pro-Second Amendment and you're pro-control the borders.
01:40:19.000You've got the liberals and conservatives and libertarians supporting you.
01:40:23.000Why wouldn't any Republican get behind you knowing that only Ron Paul can beat Hillary Clinton?
01:40:29.000You know, you wonder about that because now the move is right now is to try to close the primaries.
01:40:34.000Do you think they're sincere when they say they want to have a big tent and invite new people in?
01:40:39.000They can invite a lot of new people in, but they don't want constitutionalists evidently, because they want to make it tough to vote in a Republican primary.
01:40:47.000It just sort of confirms the fact that, you know, the control of this whole system has been one party, so to speak.
01:40:56.000You know, it's one group of people who have controlled both parties.
01:40:59.000And right now I think the people are getting disgusted with it, and they're starting to wake up.
01:41:03.000Congressman, do you think that they're accelerating?
01:41:05.000Again, we're talking to Congressman Ron Paul, running for president and gaining steam to get the win for the nomination as Republican here and defeat Hillary.
01:41:16.000Do you think that they're trying to speed up the primaries and bring them in earlier as an attempt to try to block you and other populist candidates?
01:41:27.000I don't think it's just me, because that has been started for a while.
01:41:31.000But I think, generally speaking, the two major parties, the leadership, do not want competition.
01:41:37.000This is the reason third parties have never survived very well, because it's hard to get on ballots, they won't let you in the debates.
01:41:43.000And now, they're speeding this up, so if you're a grassroots-type candidate, they don't want to give you much time to get traction.
01:41:50.000But they didn't realize that you can get traction some other way, such as through the internet and grassroots campaigning.
01:41:59.000So I think that's a bit of a secret weapon that's interfering with their plans.
01:42:09.000Call and get yard signs and bumper stickers at the bare minimum, ladies and gentlemen.
01:42:13.000And if you've already got yard signs like I do and my business does, You need to get them and give them to your neighbors or give them to that Ron Paul supporter.
01:42:21.000If they're lazy and haven't taken action, take the initiative for them.
01:42:29.000Congressman, do you think the Republican Party is starting to panic because they have been intensifying their attacks on you?
01:42:35.000Do you think they're starting to get concerned?
01:42:37.000They're also trying to change their rhetoric a little bit more, it seems, towards a more constitutionalist, freedom-based Yeah, I think they've already adapted.
01:42:47.000I don't know whether they've panicked, but I think they're at least showing some concern, where at first, you know, it was totally ignoring what we were doing.
01:42:57.000And then, of course, they made fun of it.
01:43:01.000And now I think the challenges are much tougher, and I think we can expect it to get much rougher as time goes on.
01:43:10.000Only time is going to tell, but I think we should all be thankful that the ideas of liberty are alive and well in this country, much more so than I ever dreamed, so I'm very pleased.
01:43:19.000I want to spend the six minutes we've got left with you, and I want you to know, Congressman, I know how tiring it is to do five, six, seven, eight interviews a day.
01:43:27.000I have no idea how hard it is to do the things you're doing, and at 72, good thing you're in such good shape.
01:43:32.000So I appreciate the time, and I know the listeners do, and we thank you because we are your base here, as you know.
01:43:37.000The economy, I mean, it's like you're a prophet, but you've been saying this for 25 years.
01:43:43.000Now everything you've talked about is coming home to roost.
01:43:45.000The dollar plunging in value, the Federal Reserve making announcements that the dollar is going to go down, knowing it would drive it down further.
01:43:54.000A, does that help your campaign that everything you've talked about, the hidden inflation tax, is now becoming revealed and then B it looks to me like the the central banks are trying to kill the dollar cutting interest rates bad mouthing the dollar saying the euro is going to be be preeminent that's the second question yeah I think it's going to help a whole lot Like you say, I've been talking about that for a long time and I think it's so important because the monetary issue is pervasive.
01:44:23.000It involves every single transaction we have, you know, whether it's pricing of labor or pricing of goods and services, that's how key it is.
01:44:31.000Then when people understand how the Fed screws up the economy and causes all the all the bubbles and all the changes that have to come from that, the collapsing of the bubble.
01:44:43.000No, I'm getting a lot more calls even on the business stations, and that, of course, will be the most challenging because once they know the American people have awakened to the con game that's been going on, I think those who run the banking and monetary system aren't I think those who run the banking and monetary system aren't going to be too happy, nor will the people who You know, the people in the military-industrial complex and now in the medical-industrial complex, they get to use that money first.
01:45:11.000They depend on this deficit financing.
01:45:14.000So I suspect that we're going to be talking a lot more about this, because although the dollar's down sharply right now, The secondary effects of rising interest rates and also the cost of living going down here, that's yet to come, so in the next 12 months I think things are going to get a lot worse.
01:45:35.000Most of the experts who are in the constitutional line of thinking, or the von Mises of you, are saying middle of next year is when the really bad numbers and the debt really starts piling up.
01:45:46.000Well, and that's one thing that Austrian economics teaches is that you shouldn't be so bold as to say in three months this is going to happen because I made a calculation.
01:45:55.000Because there's a human element involved.
01:45:57.000There are very many objective facts, like when you print money the value goes down, but that doesn't mean that exactly tomorrow the people will know the value of the money is down.
01:46:06.000It takes time, and people panic, and there's emotions involved, and we don't know what kind of international event that might precipitate a crisis.
01:46:14.000You know, if Bush is foolish enough to go and start bombing Iran, that might precipitate such a crisis as oil going to $200 a barrel.
01:46:24.000Well, we've already seen a massive decline in value.
01:46:26.000I mean, there is the prediction come true there.
01:46:28.000So those are the kind of events you can't predict.
01:46:35.000Could be a year and it could be even longer.
01:46:37.000But we know we're destined to have these problems come and hit us.
01:46:40.000- Well, we've already seen a massive decline in value.
01:46:43.000I mean, there is the prediction come through there.
01:46:46.000How far just in general gauging do you think it's gonna go down? - Well, that's hard to say because it depends on what the reaction is.
01:46:55.000If they continue to do exactly what we're doing, it's going to go to zero.
01:46:57.000We're going to have runaway inflation.
01:47:00.000All paper currencies eventually self-destruct and they're ruined.
01:47:03.000And we're in uncharted waters right now.
01:47:06.000This is the first time in the history of man that you've had no solid currencies around the world.
01:47:12.000And this has been going on for 35 years.
01:47:15.000So we don't know how this is going to play out.
01:47:18.000But in the past, most governments usually had to stop, start over again, develop a new currency, put some trust behind it, put some backing to the currency, and start over.
01:47:29.000In this case, it's going to be more difficult, because it's going to be a worldwide crisis, and that's why people who own things are going to be better off than those people who own dollars.
01:47:39.000Well, Joseph Stiglitz, Chief Economist, World Bank, said the same thing as you're saying last year.
01:47:43.000And he said, we're going to have a global depression unless they change things.
01:48:43.000Instead of blaming the Federal Reserve for the Depression and the financial bubble of the 20s, they said, well, if capitalism failed, it was that stupid gold standard, therefore we have to have government welfare.
01:48:54.000Of course, everything they did prolonged the Depression.
01:48:57.000The Depression lasted 15 months, 15 years.
01:49:08.000Well, according to him, it's not a lie.
01:49:11.000And according to the way they measure it, they don't think it's a lie, but according to the facts, it's a lie because they're, of course, inflating the money supply.
01:49:18.000They won't even tell us they're inflating the currency by 13% if you look at M3, and even the price inflation, which is not the actual inflation.
01:49:27.000If you go by the old CPI, it's going up 8 or 10%, so he's certainly deceiving us.
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01:53:38.000And I remember, being about 15, while we were driving around doing donuts in fields in the middle of nowhere, like a bunch of heathen,
01:53:48.000Listen to the Megadeth lyrics and it wasn't like other heavy metal stuff devil this devil that wasn't about that It was about evil world government evil New World Order I guess it was kind of subliminally telling me it was evil Back before I even woke up a few years later to the New World Order I remember getting the lyrics out of the out of the CD case CDs had just come out and then in reading, you know so so this this new one and is just right out in the open anti-New World Order.
01:54:16.000And everybody's kind of on the bandwagon now, which is good.
01:54:19.000But see, Dave Mustaine was not on the anti-New World Order bandwagon, what, 16, 17 years ago.
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01:58:21.000Lou is one of the granddaddies in the Patriot Movement, Truth Movement, Freedom Movement in this country.
01:58:28.000I've been interviewing Lou, and he's been interviewing me going back, I don't know, 15 years or so, ever since I first started even getting into this movement, right when I got on earth.
01:58:36.000I think it was about 13 years, but I'd heard of Lou before that, and we're simulcasting right now.
01:58:48.000Well, I'm really honored to be on your show, and it's great to have you here with us.
01:58:51.000What are some of the things you want to talk about this hour?
01:58:53.000You know, I've got this big headline up on PrisonPlanet.com.
01:58:56.000FBI thought bombs brought down towers on 9-11.
01:59:00.000Working premise, the truck bombs aided WTC collapse.
01:59:03.000Dovetails were the arrest reports that were later buried.
01:59:06.000Later, if you'd like, in the hour, we can actually play that clip.
01:59:10.000In fact, John, why don't you go up to Prison Planet, I forgot to tell you, and go ahead and grab that clip, newscast, so we can play that later.
01:59:24.000Now what you have and other people I've spoken to, there is not a doubt in my mind that this wasn't something we were heavily involved in.
01:59:32.000When I say we, I mean our supposed representatives, our own government.
01:59:38.000Well, the reason I bring that up and was talking about it long before 9-11, as you were, is that it's declassified that criminal elements of our government, i.e.
01:59:47.000the CIA, Defense Intelligence, staged terror attacks in Iran to blame it on their leadership and overthrow them.
01:59:53.000In Europe, they declassified in 2001, before the attacks, that the U.S.
02:00:00.000headline planned to stage terror attacks as a pretext for war with Cuba and the Soviets, Operation Northwoods.
02:00:07.000The USS Liberty, our government with Israel, staged that attack on the ship as a pretext to attack, of course, the Arabs, mainly.
02:00:18.000So there's so many examples they now have declassified that it was a staged attack and that nothing really happened that got us into the Vietnam War with the Gulf of Tonkin.
02:00:26.000I mean, Lou, there are so many examples where they've done it in the past and then radiating the atomic soldiers, radiating 4,000 American children and killing them in radiation tests, telling parents they were getting x-rays and killing them to test radiation, our government funding Israel to do it.
02:00:41.000I mean, the cold-blooded stuff they've done before, why wouldn't they do 9-11?
02:00:44.000Then you look at the evidence and And sure enough, it's an inside job.
02:00:49.000They needed it to get the Patriot Act passed, for one.
02:00:51.000They needed it for a number of reasons.
02:00:53.000But I'll tell you, I sit here and I've often said, my people know this, what we're witnessing is the greatest show this world has ever seen.
02:01:01.000Everything that's happened, we've been involved in, we've helped plan.
02:01:05.000It's all taking us toward this one world government.
02:01:08.000And the latest thing to happen, and I believe it's worth discussion, is what they call the Lost Treaty, the Law of the Seas Treaty, turning most all of the water on the planet over to the United Nations.
02:01:22.000I tell you what, we've got a break in a minute and a half, but let's come back, get into this new 9-11 information, and then let's get into these treaties.
02:01:29.000Law of the Sea, Law of the Sky, the SPP, the meeting Bush had a month and a half ago, they even released those documents.
02:01:37.000We are going under United Nations control!
02:01:51.000And, Lou, before we break, tell folks about your fine station, the frequency, and how my listeners, who may have never heard it around the country when they're in Vegas or around it, can tune in.
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02:06:06.000FBI thought bombs brought down the towers on 9-11.
02:06:11.000Working premise that truck bombs Aided WTC collapse dovetails with arrest reports that were later buried.
02:06:18.000According to Terror Expert interview on USA Today on 9-11, the FBI's initial working premise was that trucks packed with explosives aided the collapse of the Twin Towers.
02:06:27.000The fact that dovetails with reports of Middle Easterners being arrested after running away from truck bombs that later exploded that day.
02:06:35.000Now, Lew Epton, are you there, my friend?
02:06:40.000Lou, we had Arabs telling the local newspapers the week before those buildings won't be there the next day.
02:06:46.000We had Odigo, Haras reporting in Israel, calling and saying, you know, we got a warning.
02:06:50.000We told our employees, the Israeli employees, to get out.
02:06:53.000We had FBI agents arrested for doing insider trading.
02:06:56.000We had Buzzy Krongard in trouble with Blackwater covering up arms smuggling right now, involved in insider trading.
02:07:02.000It seems like everybody knew But then the President said he'd never heard of any such plan, and then on top of it, of course there had to be bombs in the buildings.
02:07:10.000I don't believe truck bombs, they were too well placed.
02:07:13.000But at least the FBI, because a lot of them weren't involved, obviously, it's a compartment of the government, thought there had to be bombs because it was obvious, and they were reporting that bombs were going off in the towers, including Building 7.
02:07:26.000For the goodness sakes, the firemen, those who survived that horrendous event, are telling us that there were bombs in the building.
02:07:32.000I gotta tell you, I've watched buildings come down here in Las Vegas, what they call controlled demolition.
02:07:39.000It was identical to what happened at the old Boone's Hotel.
02:07:55.000We both have lots of questions, and there's nobody there to answer them, and the commission they put in place to report on what they say happened was rigged, and we both know it.
02:08:06.000I mean, there was no doubt in my mind, and I hate to say this, but there's not a doubt in my mind about what went on That fateful day of September 11th.
02:08:16.000Those buildings were planned for destruction.
02:08:19.000It would have cost a veritable fortune to try and clean that asbestos out of the buildings.
02:08:24.000What better way to get the job done and save money?
02:08:27.000And then there's a story of, I believe his name was Silverstein, who took over the buildings and insured them for a few million dollars and collected billions of dollars after the demise.
02:08:37.000There's a story of a reporter from the BBC, get this, standing in front of Building 7.
02:08:44.000Live, on the air, reporting to the people in Great Britain that Building 7 had already collapsed.
02:09:04.000I remember him interviewing me 13 years ago.
02:09:07.000Again, he was out there on radio on a big station when literally nobody else was.
02:09:14.000Lew Epton pioneering fighting the New World Order.
02:09:17.000We are so honored So honored to have him on air with us today right here on the GCN radio network.
02:09:25.000Lou, how about we play this couple minute clip of USA newspaper television that day interviewing a terrorism expert about truck bombs in the buildings.
02:09:39.000Before we do, let me just add something.
02:09:41.000It is my honor to be on the air with you.
02:09:44.000You're a young man, like I've never known before in my life, who is standing up for the truth, exposing the fraud of what's going on, and it's an honest pleasure just to be able to share the airwaves with you wherever the world we're being heard.
02:09:58.000Well, Lou, you're a sweetheart, but I'm not as young as I used to be.
02:10:01.000I've definitely put a lot of miles on the odometer, but again, I'm just glad folks like you were out there before I was fighting the globalists.
02:10:08.000And again, you've done so much for this country, my friend, so God bless you as well.
02:10:12.000Here is that first clip, and the next one is of Dan Rather.
02:10:18.000Now, he is a foreign correspondent, war correspondent, and just came back from Israel.
02:10:23.000He has some information about these attacks.
02:10:26.000Jack, what can you tell us happened first in New York?
02:10:29.000Apparently what appears to happen was that at the same time two planes hit the building that the FBI most likely thinks that there was a car or truck packed with explosives underneath the buildings which also exploded at the same time and brought both of them down.
02:10:43.000Now that's the first time we're hearing that.
02:10:45.000So two planes and explosives that were in the building, is that correct?
02:10:49.000That is the working theory at this point.
02:10:51.000That is still unconfirmed, but that is what the FBI is going on at this point.
02:10:55.000Now, here in Washington, can you tell us what happened with this jet?
02:10:59.000We believe it's an American Airlines jet that was going from Dulles International Airport to Los Angeles.
02:11:29.000Within the last couple of minutes, the White House has approved sending two aircraft carrier battle groups, one into the Chesapeake Bay, the other outside of the New York City area, to prepare and defend for possible future attacks.
02:11:43.000Now, Jack, as these battleships are headed out, does this mean war?
02:11:50.000Lawrence Eagleburger, the former Secretary of State, just told us that this is a declaration of war as far as he is concerned.
02:11:56.000He said this is the biggest attack against the U.S.
02:11:59.000since Pearl Harbor more than 60 years ago.
02:12:01.000So, why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia where 14 of the 19 hijackers came from?
02:12:08.000Even if you believe the official story, why are we going to Iraq?
02:12:12.000Just like we're about to go into Iran, and Lou, they think the public's so dumb, they keep saying Iran, love them or hate them, is an Al-Qaeda country, and aids Al-Qaeda.
02:12:20.000Iran is run by Shiites, the opposite group of Al-Qaeda, the Wahhabis, and they hate them, and they hate Saudi Arabia.
02:12:29.000Well, obviously they think they're as stupid as a box of rocks, and you know what?
02:12:34.000On occasion, I gotta think, you know, I hate to say this, but we've been so dumbed down That we're willing to accept anything the propaganda machine known as television and mainstream press is willing to tell us.
02:12:46.000I mean, how many people you talk to that really question anything they hear on TV or read in the daily?
02:12:52.000I mean, what they're not telling us is so much more important than any of the dribble that they're releasing.
02:12:58.000And if you want to get into the 9-11 situation in a big way, you know, if you find one real flaw, then you've got to question the whole thing.
02:13:06.000And I'll tell you what I think was the most glaring flaw of all.
02:13:10.000was what they claim went on at the Pentagon.
02:13:42.000But Lew, what about the admissions by Colonel Butler, the head of the Defense Language School, that they trained three of the hijackers there in spy training?
02:13:49.000What about the two embassy heads, Springman and the other one, I've interviewed both of them, saying that they were told the hijackers were U.S.
02:13:54.000government agents and that their terrorism designation was a cover and that they were supposed to let them back into the country by the State Department and the CIA?
02:14:02.000Or MSNBC and Newsweek reporting that the hijackers were trained at the Pensacola Naval Air Station?
02:14:08.000I mean, the fact that they were trained at bases and then we're supposed to not talk about that, or that the official story's a fraud, or that Bush said he never heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings, and it turned out the British, the U.S., everybody done drills of it.
02:14:21.000In fact, John, did you grab that clip today?
02:14:36.000This is him, that same day, now, reporting on how they caught all these people with trucks, and explosives residue, and maps, and box cutters, and all this stuff, and then it's admitted that they were Mossad agents.
02:14:54.000...very recently tonight, within the last few minutes, repeated that he believes that there are some people still alive, and they're all looking around the World Trade Center.
02:15:02.000And word late tonight that two suspects are in FBI custody, After a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge.
02:15:10.000That bridge links New York to New Jersey over the Hudson River.
02:15:14.000Whether the discovery of those explosives has anything to do with other events today is unclear, but the FBI has two suspects in hand, said the truckload of explosives, enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge.
02:15:28.000But they arrested the two suspects and they're questioning them as we speak.
02:15:32.000President Bush says the death toll at the Marching Center into danger.
02:16:03.000We don't have all exactly what happened, but we know that the official story that it was done by guys from a cave is a lie.
02:16:10.000What are they going to do now that we've taken their favorite tactic of staging terror and basically destroyed it?
02:16:15.000Well, I think they're just going to keep marching the way they are and ignore whatever the public wants to know about, and they've gotten by with it so far, there's nothing to force them to come out and admit any wrongdoing in any way, shape, or form.
02:16:28.000So, you know, unless... and it's not easy to get the public really aroused enough.
02:16:40.000Because in the history, I think of the planet.
02:16:43.000Unless people are, first of all, hungry and homeless, they're not about to do anything.
02:16:48.000And the majority of our citizenry still lives fairly well.
02:16:51.000So they're just going to go along and hope that somebody else will figure it out and expose it.
02:16:55.000And nothing much else is going to happen.
02:16:59.000But, I'd like to think, maybe, just maybe, you know I'm one of these rare people, I do believe in our Lord, I do believe He's watching what's going on, and I do know for a fact that in the end we're going to win.
02:17:13.000But I have this bad feeling it's going to get a lot worse before it starts getting better.
02:17:18.000Lew Epstein, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
02:17:20.000Let's get into that subject you wanted to raise, the Law of the Sea Treaty.
02:17:24.000The whole international takeover of our governments, the handover of the infrastructure, the ports, the roads, the power plants.
02:17:31.000It's all happening across the country, across the planet.
02:17:34.000We're talking to Lou Epton, ladies and gentlemen, from KLAV AM 1230 in Las Vegas.
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02:20:42.000We at The Bible Says want to alert the world to the topic of the Mark of the Beast, Soon it will be upon us as an overwhelming surprise.
02:20:52.000The world is pressing toward a forced one-world religion.
02:20:55.000The real issue behind this is the union of church and state nullifying our First Amendment.
02:21:00.000Americans will have to give up their peculiar beliefs and accept what the new world religious leaders prescribe.
02:21:06.000In 2005, President Bush signed the Real ID Act, which goes into effect May 11, 2008.
02:21:12.000Many people believe that this will be the mark of the beast because of the restrictive measures included, which seems to parallel the no buying and selling of Revelations 13, 17.
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02:22:26.000We're here deep in the heart of Texas in Bush-controlled, New World Order fake conservative country as we defend the Republic from enemies foreign and domestic.
02:22:34.000Lew, I'm glad you brought up the Law of the Sea Treaty because I don't talk enough about that and there's so many international takeovers.
02:22:44.000What, 74% of the world's surface is covered in Saltwater and another 1% is covered in freshwater.
02:22:51.000They claim now under this full control of the oceans and want to tax all cargo and fishing and actions that go on it.
02:22:59.000This would really give them a big part of the global tax they want.
02:23:03.000They're pushing for the other part of course right now through global warming, man-made global warming hysteria and fraud and all these new taxes.
02:23:10.000But fill folks in on the Law of the Sea Treaty, Lou.
02:23:14.000I mean, I can't go into great detail because I don't know all that much more about it except that it'll put the water, which is the majority of the planet we live on, under the control of the United Nations.
02:23:25.000Which, by the way, from where I sit, has never been a friend of the United States.
02:23:31.000But if you look at the overall picture, which is globalism, and we're well on the way there right now, and this is the agenda of what's going on.
02:23:51.000Once they've achieved that, Then I'll go for step two where the end result is a one world government with a very few elite at the top and then there'll be the rest of us and we'll do exactly what we're told.
02:24:04.000We won't be able to buy food or anything else.
02:24:19.000We're being invaded right now by how many illegals?
02:24:22.000Not what the government wants you to believe.
02:24:24.000I personally will tell you, as far as I'm concerned, we've got over 30 million Illegals right now running rampant across the nation.
02:24:31.000Now we're offering them all of our freeways and highways to the Mexican truckers, whose trucks are not up to standards, whose drivers are not up to standards, which is not my idea, but which is admitted by almost everyone.
02:24:44.000And what will that do to the American truckers?
02:24:47.000Well, obviously it'll Call for lower wages because you can't compete with the kind of monies that they get if they're working through Mexico.
02:25:00.000This idea that, I love it, Hillary's proposing national health care again, that's socialism or communism by whatever name you want to stick with.
02:25:09.000Which gives them total control, she says you have to go to the doctor each year, they're going to decide what you're injected with, they're going to have social workers that watch you and your family, that give you visits, this is all about kidnapping your children, getting them into the system, this all-powerful state, That tracks everything you buy, tracks everywhere you go and what you do, that can turn your national ID card off for buying and selling, which they're now pushing, which can inject you with whatever they want.
02:25:34.000I mean, this is nightmare control, and you got all these fools out there that think the state cares about them and loves them, when all it wants to do is get full control over you.
02:25:43.000By the way, Alex, you know what the whole movement, what the equality movement for women was honestly all about?
02:26:51.000We had families up until World War II.
02:26:54.000And when the guys all ran out to enlist, I mean, everyone wanted to go out and help this country because it was their home, a great country.
02:27:06.000I don't know how to say this sometimes, Alex.
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02:31:53.000Hey, what I was wondering about, you've been able to maintain such a great sponsorship with your program for so long.
02:31:58.000I'm wondering how the Luetkin program can take advantage of those same ideas, and wondering how important it is for listener support in your radio program, so folks listening to the Luetkin program get that also.
02:32:31.000in Anthem Station, Shore of the Internet, Satellite, things like that.
02:32:34.000But, I mean, really, it's just the listeners out there taking the audio files from the show, getting the word out that lets us continue our operation.
02:32:42.000But obviously, you're doing a decent two, Lou, if you've been there since 1991.
02:32:44.000But yes, Supporting talk shows, spreading the word about the talk shows, that is so important.
02:32:50.000And when you've got a great AM host, like Lou in your area, I know most of you already know this, but every day, don't forget, tell somebody else at a red light, tell somebody at school, tell somebody at work, hey, at lunch, tune in and listen to Lou Epton.
02:33:20.000How did you first begin getting involved in broadcasting?
02:33:24.000I think a lot of people would like to know.
02:33:26.000I'm so grateful you did, and I'm so grateful that you're there and you're on, because I can't think of anyone else that hits a nail on the head as well as you do.
02:33:34.000Oh well, there's a lot of folks better than me.
02:33:40.000In 1994, about a year or so after the massacre at Waco, I got really informed about the New World Order to a certain extent.
02:33:47.000The Federal Reserve being private, kind of a mainline Ron Paul, type Republican, but by mainline I mean Ron Paul style mainline, you know, hardcore libertarian, whatever.
02:33:56.000And then Oklahoma City happened and local Austin Axis producers, I'd already been down there volunteering and helped on a few of the shows, had all these raw footage of bombs in the buildings being removed, being an inside job, of grand jurors saying it was an inside job, they were told to shut up.
02:34:13.000And so I got on the air as a guest host then, and then by 96, early 96, I'd been on the air a while, about a year, I got approached by folks that were about to switch a rock station to talk, and they put me on three hours Saturday night.
02:35:10.000Now I was just curious because it's such a, to me, it's a great feeling to know that you're there, you're out there, and you're getting the word out in large fashion, and I only wish there were a couple hundred more like you.
02:35:22.000Unfortunately, I can't think of anybody else that comes anywhere near what you're doing.
02:35:27.000We have another caller online right now, if it's okay, though, Alex.
02:35:34.000Yes, good morning Alex and Lew, my two favorite talk show hosts.
02:35:39.000I'm really proud of you guys getting together and attempting this.
02:35:43.000Alex and Lew, Lew doesn't know it yet, I've been started producing, or not really producing, putting together kind of a synopsis of your three hours and sending it out.
02:35:55.000I've got about 50 or 60 people that I email it to and ask them to forward it.
02:36:01.000I try not to do too much editorializing, but just try to identify what could be the really good points for them to consider listening.
02:36:12.000If I can get them to listen to an hour, they're probably going to be hooked.
02:36:15.000That's what happened to me about six or seven months ago.
02:36:18.000A friend said, do you ever listen to Alex Jones?
02:36:21.000You can listen to it on my computer and I've been hooked ever since.
02:37:17.000But that video, I mean, that film, I just wish we could make sure everybody saw it because it really nails it so succinctly and it just makes it darn I was very proud to be a friend of his and help him get started when he ran for governor here.
02:37:32.000Well, speaking of films, you can go to whatistheendgame.com or endgamethemovie.com or go to infowars.com or prisonplanet.com.
02:37:43.000There's big links to watch the three movie trailers.
02:37:47.000We're going to have the official, you know, really fancy trailer we did coming out at the end of this week.
02:38:50.000Alex, it's an honor to speak with you.
02:38:53.000I was thinking about that show, that view show that was supposed to have the Loose Change crew, and I was thinking that the only way, why it was preempted, was that the people in the media know that 9-11 was an inside job.
02:39:10.000If 9-11 was not an inside job, they would have let the people from the Loose Change crew on that episode say what they wanted.
02:39:18.000Well, again, Rosie tried to get him on, tried to get William Rodriguez on, and she was told no.
02:39:24.000She was offered more money not to leave, but told we'll have editorial control.
02:39:27.000And again, I disagree with a lot of things Rosie believes in, but I admire her passion and her courage to turn down a multi-million dollar a year contract and leave because she wasn't allowed to say or do what she wanted.
02:39:42.000Imagine if the whole Loose Change crew were to get this copy of the endgame.
02:39:47.000Not just the Loose Change crew, but the We Are Change movement and all chapters of the We Are Change movement were to have their own personal copy of Terror Storm Special Edition and this endgame coming out.
02:40:03.000Well, supposedly in a few months you will probably, I mean they're tweaking it right now, it's a great film, the final cut of Loose Change, so we'll see how that develops.
02:40:33.000being set up to be invaded since we have such a huge debt?
02:40:36.000Well, that was called gunboat diplomacy, and that went on from, say, 1850 through the 1930s.
02:40:44.000And what would happen is they would land the Marines in total, I think, what, eight, nine different countries over those 60, 70, 80 years, and they would give a loan to a dictator knowing he wouldn't pay it back.
02:40:55.000And then when he didn't pay, he would leave and then they would invade.
02:40:58.000Now we have the IMF and World Bank documents.
02:41:00.000Joseph Sticklitz got out in 2002, Nobel Prize winner, Chief Economist at World Bank.
02:41:04.000And in that it states they pay them and then tell them don't pay it back.
02:41:08.000And it said on average about 25% interest compounded and go even higher.
02:41:13.000And they go in and then get the infrastructure, the water, literally the people are signed over as collateral and then they get control.
02:41:20.000And so on a billion dollar debt, a nation will end up paying, like Nigeria, 60-something billion in interest on that, loans made in the 70s, and then they get just full ownership of the country.
02:41:31.000And then that's fiat currency issued out of nothing, backing up the IMF and World Bank.
02:41:36.000So the bankers just create it out of nothing.
02:41:40.000You know, you talk about the film put out by Loose Change, which is really... I've got a copy, it's outstanding.
02:41:46.000But I was going to ask you, Alex, are you also familiar with Dave Monclay's set of 9-11 in plain sight and his newest 9-11 ripple effect?
02:41:55.000He's got a lot of important people on that and they're all verifying what we've been talking about, that this whole situation of 9-11 was a set-up job.
02:42:14.000It's a pleasure to speak with you both.
02:42:17.000Alex, I have some information for you.
02:42:19.000It's not too old, but here in a talk show that goes on in the morning in Santa City, Uh, called Tell Somebody on 90.185.
02:42:30.000They were interviewing, uh, the mayor, Mark Funkhouser, Mayor of Kansas City, Mark Funkhouser, and they were speaking about the, uh, Napa Superhighway.
02:42:42.000They, the host questioned him about it, and of course, the mayor denied knowing anything about the highway, but he did admit that they do have plans to use the railroad, uh, from Mexico To bring all the goods in from Mexico.
02:42:58.000Mexico already took over the former second largest train station in the country.
02:43:05.000Louis, that's official news, in the official TxDOT and Federal Transportation Department documents, they call it the NAFTA Super North American Highway, North American Integration, and now when they get heat, they just deny it exists.
02:43:19.000I mean, this is the incredible, but again, the massive lie, then we spend all day debating and talking about how they're liars.
02:43:26.000Listen, a month ago, an international tribunal ordered the U.S.
02:43:31.000to open up to Mexican trucks, and it started happening.
02:43:35.000International tribunals, every couple days, have more power than Congress because they signed it away.
02:43:40.000I mean, we're under United Nations regulations on our national parks.
02:43:46.000They're talking about international regulations on over a 3,000 square foot house, you'll pay taxes.
02:44:01.000They keep saying, do something about global warming, and I tell people it's a tax, and they would deny it was a tax a year ago.
02:44:06.000Now they're announcing it's a tax, but then saying there is no tax.
02:44:09.000They say it is a tax, but it doesn't exist.
02:44:11.000I mean, that is a psychological warfare tactic just to take you back, and they know that 60% of the public doesn't read or check anything out, so they just hear that and want to rationalize and procrastinate and say it isn't true.
02:44:23.000I mean, Lou, what do you think of just the unbelievable lying that's going on now?
02:45:10.000It owned the roads and used them as tax and control and checkpoints to regulate, and they admit that they're going to use the money from this to fund North American integration infrastructure.
02:45:22.000So right there, the money for this goes to build up their infrastructure, not the old infrastructure of the states and the federal level.
02:45:29.000I mean, it's global government taxation in our face.
02:45:33.000they're building it right here in Austin and you can't even I mean it's unbelievable no I know it I'll tell you I look at my kids I look at my grandkids and I'm really there are times I wish I had a state single all of my life because the life they're going to lead the life young folks are going to lead I feel like I've been very lucky having been born when I was and I I just hate the thought of the kind of world they're growing up in and Well, good people are getting involved thanks to people like you, Lew.
02:46:29.000And to all the police brutality that's coming out and the tasering and everything else, I think the only protection we have now is to carry a camera, whether it be a cell phone camera, a little hand cam, anything.
02:46:44.000And if you're just going to stand there and do nothing anyways, at least have the courtesy to record it.
02:46:50.000And that could be, you know, your buddy's kid if you can't figure out how to work it.
02:46:54.000But just get everything out because the only thing that's protecting these people from, like, the Montebello Pro-Rock of Tours, kid getting tasering, the only thing that's protecting them is it being recorded and put out on YouTube.
02:47:05.000And by the way, it's now admitted the cops were hitting people trying to stage a riot so they could attack peaceful protesters.
02:47:22.000People show up anyways, and they're more sophisticated than Burma.
02:47:26.000Instead of just coming out and shooting everybody, they have their guys dressed up, starting fights so they can then shoot rubber bullets at everybody.
02:47:33.000That is a training aid and a prelude to real bullets being used.
02:47:52.000Did you know that they have well over 200,000 plus foreigners who were illegal aliens, many of them aggravated felons, now in our military?
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02:52:10.000Before we take that final call, Lou, I just wanted to add that if you go to PrisonPlanet.com, it says, "FBI thought bombs brought down towers on 9/11." In the DIG comments there on the DIG message board, they're saying, oh, we thought it was ceramite, we thought it was bombs in the buildings.
02:52:26.000You're saying, no, it was truck bombs.
02:53:38.000They got the water buffalo hump on their back, fatty muscle, and long-term guys that really screws up your endocrine system and your male organs, and you don't need that to be tough.
02:53:49.000And not only that, they shouldn't even be doing that.
02:53:51.000If there's somebody who they need to take down... It's a Schedule III.
02:54:12.000Lou Epton, I want to really thank you for having me on your show, and I want to thank KLAV, AM 1230, for having you on for the last 16 plus years.
02:54:23.000And I would invite them, I know they can't pick up my weekday show, it's on the same time as you, they ought to pick up the Sunday show, 4 to 6 p.m.
02:54:56.000Maybe we should get you to talk to the network and see about getting a rebroadcast of your KLV or something on KLAV here on the GCN Radio Network because you are just so fabulous, my friend.
02:55:11.000And by the way, you have more outstanding videos that I hope people are taking advantage of because it explores, it explains reality of what's been going on, okay?
02:55:22.000Thank you for having me on your show this morning and for your being on my show this morning or this afternoon, whatever, wherever people might be.
02:55:31.000If I might mention my website, it's a very difficult one.