Alex Jones, Mark Stavoski, and Dr. Michael Kaufmann join host Alex Jones to discuss 9/11, global environmentalism, and the end game of the New World Order agenda. Alex Jones is a conservative radio host and host of the Alex Jones Show on the Global Conspiracy Network (GCN) Radio Network.
00:00:35.000Mark Stavnoski will be joining us coming up in the third hour today.
00:00:42.000Very honored to be having him come on.
00:00:43.000Already familiar with some of his other work in the fight against the phony war on drugs.
00:00:51.000A very informed individual, so this Super Bowl champion slash Pro Bowler will be joining us coming up to talk about 9-11 truth and his serious questions surrounding and concerning the official story that is coming up in two hours from now.
00:01:12.000Dr. Michael Kaufman covering how the mainline environmental groups were literally founded by the eugenicists.
00:01:27.000The big banks and big money that has come in with their PR firms have taken over any of the real environmental groups that form that actually have an effect.
00:01:38.000Or they'll just sick of the FBI or police on other groups that are legitimately out doing things.
00:01:44.000Right now it's all about global taxation.
00:01:48.000So Dr. Michael Kaufman will be joining us coming up in the second hour and talking about the United Nations Biological Diversity Assessment where they openly talk about 80 plus percent population reductions and a lot more.
00:02:00.000That is coming up in the second hour today as well.
00:02:20.000I used to do six, seven, eight, nine hours of radio a day, but I already did four other interviews yesterday, my own show, and then Coast to Coast.
00:02:27.000I am getting into my step, though, here, kind of trying to fire up, get the brain working.
00:02:33.000But I tell you, we are certainly burning the midnight oil when it comes to the fight against the Global Crime Syndicate.
00:02:45.000I'm feeling a lot of anxiety, and I'm not normally someone who has a lot of anxiety.
00:03:58.000The things that are happening right now are just unspeakably serious and still the general public does not know what it means to have a devalued dollar.
00:04:11.000Your savings are Plunging upwards of a cent each week, and by a cent I mean per dollar that you have, it's plunging around a cent.
00:04:23.000That means you're losing around 1% of your savings, your purchasing power, every single week with your assets.
00:04:35.000I'm going to try to break this down when we get back, as we just chronicle this unfolding and happening.
00:04:42.000And I heard some things this morning on talk radio that were very disquieting.
00:04:48.000I heard two national hosts reading talking points, and it was a key sign in this whole system.
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00:08:24.000Welcome Mark Stepnowski, pro bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, Dallas Cowboy, Houston Oiler.
00:08:33.000We'll be joining us to talk about 9-11 truth in the third hour.
00:08:36.000Dr. Michael Kaufman in the second hour.
00:08:37.000For those that just joined us, my sound a bit frazzled today.
00:08:43.000It's because I've been road hard, put away wet, doing, I guess, a total of actually five interviews yesterday and my own show.
00:08:52.000And once I go to bed at 4 a.m., I just really don't get any sleep.
00:08:56.000So that's why I look like some kind of raccoon with black circles around my eyes when you see me out about town, because I just can't turn down big interviews like Coast to Coast AM, and I can't come get up in the morning and not come do this show.
00:09:10.000So, again, I'm honored to be here, and I'm very, very thankful that all of you are tuning in.
00:09:15.000Okay, the serious, serious news that we have here in front of us.
00:09:20.000Crude oil gold surge amid dollar reserve worry.
00:09:27.000And gold is only $2 from breaking the 1980 all-time record.
00:09:36.000But for gold to have the same purchasing power it had versus purchasing it with the dollar in that ratio, in that conversion, It will need to go to $2200 plus an ounce.
00:09:49.000So if it is indeed going to make that move and get parity with true dollar devaluation, we will see $2200 an ounce gold.
00:09:59.000I do not know if that's going to happen.
00:10:02.000But it is $15 up today, and it is literally on the heels of the 1980 record right now.
00:10:11.000This certainly is a day long remembered.
00:10:14.000Crude oil gold surge amid dollar reserve worry.
00:10:17.000You know, they're finally admitting why gold and oil are going up.
00:10:21.000Now, usually they'll claim it's some storm in the Gulf or So, Leprechaun, you know, bit somebody or something ridiculous happened, but in real financial internal publications and policy reports and IMF World Bank documents, they are totally honest about what they're actually doing to us.
00:10:41.000And there's one publication I've seen that really does tell the truth, and that's the Financial Times of London.
00:10:46.000They put a slight spin on it, but they admit the big central banks are having a large, ravenous blood meal right now on your back.
00:10:55.000When I think about my detractors who put up websites, news stories from a year ago, two years ago, saying, Alex Jones is a kook.
00:11:09.000Well, if you haven't noticed that we're at all-time private debt, government debt, corporate debt, if you haven't noticed that people are having to work two, three jobs, if you haven't noticed all the real economic indices showing we're in deep trouble, and this is just the beginning, you're just blind.
00:11:26.000You're just absolutely completely blind.
00:11:30.000Fox News, though, came out yesterday, and we even have the clip of it.
00:11:49.000Thank you, Emperor, for all you do, as if you actually run anything, you're a complete puppet of the big central banks, who own the defense contractor companies, and, of course, the big oil companies.
00:12:00.000So, crude oil, gold surge amid dollar reserve worry.
00:12:05.000I was up at about 2.30 in the morning doing George Norrie's broadcast last night with Daniel Estill, and it was a great co-interview.
00:12:13.000It was great to be interviewed there with Daniel.
00:12:17.000By the way, it's in Endgame, and there it was, London Independent.
00:12:22.000There was the Chinese head of their central bank saying that they're going to go ahead and start accelerating the dump of the dollar out of their $1.43 trillion in holdings.
00:12:32.000I thought it was $1.2 trillion, but I guess that was six months ago.
00:12:35.000I guess they hold a couple hundred million more with their balance of trade.
00:12:44.000See, the bankers create a fiat system.
00:12:46.000And then they get us over-leveraged by design, and now they're busy putting out hundreds of articles a day, literally, saying, we deserve it, we're spoiled, we're bad, Americans did this.
00:12:58.000It's the fact of the poor people that went and took loans they couldn't pay.
00:13:01.000That has nothing to do with it, ladies and gentlemen.
00:13:04.000It was the big banks that issued all this credit, pumped this bubble up, and then three months ago, cut off the conduit of that credit to the people, not to the central banks themselves.
00:13:15.000It is a orgy of looting that's going on.
00:13:19.000The pound hits $2.10 USD mark as dollar battered by Qing comments.
00:13:33.000As they try to cut their interest rates, to at least slow the slide of the dollar, they want a slow decline so we don't get too restless in the IMF and World Bank's own words.
00:13:47.000As their former chief economist Joseph Stiglitz told you here in January, Continuing, 4X pound again hits $2.10 USD market.
00:14:00.000Also from George Washington blog, 9-11 family member Patty Kazziza, a government knew exact date and exact targets.
00:14:11.0009/11 family member, Jersey girl, Patty Kazziza, has just revealed that whistleblowers told her that before 9/11, the government knew the exact day, the type of attack, and the targets.
00:14:25.000In Ron Paul news, will Ron Paul be excluded from Iowa debates?
00:15:51.000Now, all day they talk about Islamo-fascist, but when you talk about invading countries, incredible corporate corruption, attacks on liberties and freedoms, and then the trappings, the terms, the names, the symbols, the signets, the logos, the verbiage, the vernacular, Nomenclature.
00:16:13.000I mean, they follow classical Nazi-style fascism to a T, ladies and gentlemen.
00:16:20.000So we'll be going over that and playing some of the overman statements on it.
00:17:20.000And it shows what's happening in Pakistan, and it showed them hurting people on the back of trucks for no reason, just beating them, kicking them in the hind end, hitting them with belly clubs.
00:17:31.000And I saw Anderson Cooper smile real wickedly.
00:17:45.000And there he was, and I saw him smiling with the audio down, so I turned it up, and I sit down, and I look back up, and they're just talking about, well, they're getting tough over there, and he's doing what he needs to do, but they're actually defending it, and Aaron walks in, and he's talking to me, and I turn and look, and Aaron's not looking, and they've got people lined up by a car.
00:18:11.000I'm talking at like 10 feet away and you see the people crumple and fall to the ground like something on a red dom and they've got them lined up and shooting them.
00:18:18.000But the audio was real low and I kind of double-checked.
00:18:23.000Did any of you, in fact, we're not really open phones right now, but if you saw that too, because it was just literally like you can't believe you just saw it.
00:18:34.000And I'm hoping that I Saw wrong, because it was like three seconds.
00:18:39.000There's people lined up on the side of the street, and you see Christmas tree flashes out of the muzzles of guns.
00:18:57.000And no, we didn't catch it on tape, and that was the rebroadcast of the day, so that was it.
00:19:02.000I think he's on it like nine at night or eight at night, and they re-air it a few hours later.
00:19:05.000So if you saw that, please let me know.
00:19:10.000This morning I was tuning around on talk radio listening to a national host based out of San Antonio that I tuned into Neil Bortz.
00:19:18.000And I heard both of them say, two separate national shows, that well if Al Qaeda comes in and bombs one restaurant and kills 50 people, it's going to plunge our economy.
00:19:30.000And I've always said that They may stage a small attack here, and then totally plunge the economy, or make the announcement it's plunged, in some type of psychological view that Al-Qaeda did it, because I've seen that pattern before, and I heard two different shows saying that.
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00:24:39.000Then they had these two guests on who were going, well, Perez Musharraf's a bad guy and he's killing all these people, but he's really our guy and we need him there to fight Al Qaeda.
00:26:30.000And now they have these new laws that if a child, anybody under the age of 17, is convicted of a felony, they get expelled from every school in the United States.
00:27:16.000Okay, as for talking points, Neil Bort, Sean Hannity, it was like ten of them, remember about a year ago they went to the White House, sat around, openly got talking points and were told what to say by Bush and thanked for their fake conservatism and keeping the sheep in the pens by posing as conservatives.
00:27:34.000Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.
00:27:36.000The neocons' enemies are the conservatives if they woke up in this country, so they keep you under the little watchdog's eyes.
00:28:21.000They were actually implying the economy's in trouble because of Muslims, and then saying, and the Muslims, they're going to go in and blow up 50 people in a discotheque here in the U.S.
00:28:50.000And this caller on Neil Bortz is going, yeah, but I'm a Ron Paul libertarian, you know, this war is making the Muslims hate us, making them fight us more, and Neil Bortz says, that's ridiculous.
00:29:00.000Well, the Pentagon's own P2OG public plan said they were going to go into Iraq, tear the place down, divide it in three parts, and fund different groups to kill each other, and export revolution.
00:29:10.000Our government went into secular governments in the last 50, 60 years, overthrew them, and put Muslim extremists in.
00:29:16.000Iraq was secular, now it's an Islamic state!
00:29:20.000And they tell us Iran is Al-Qaeda when they're Shiite, the opposite group!
00:29:24.000Neil Borich is a smart guy, 30 years on air, and a lawyer.
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00:31:01.000We at The Bible Says want to alert the world to the topic of the Mark of the Beast.
00:31:06.000Soon it will be upon us as an overwhelming surprise.
00:31:10.000The world is pressing toward a forced one-world religion.
00:31:13.000The real issue behind this is the union of church and state nullifying our First Amendment.
00:31:18.000Americans will have to give up their peculiar beliefs and accept what the new world religious leaders prescribe.
00:31:23.000In 2005, President Bush signed the Real ID Act, which goes into effect May 11, 2008.
00:31:29.000Many people believe that this will be the mark of the beast because of the restrictive measures included, which seems to parallel the no buying and selling of Revelations 13, 17.
00:31:38.000In Revelations 14, 9, speaking of the mark of the beast, it says, If any man worship the beast, take notice.
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00:34:19.000We're going to board the enemy in the info war.
00:34:21.000And we're going to take the fight to their decks.
00:34:25.000We're going to rake their capital ships' decks in the Infowar, and we're going to go in with the initiative, and we're going to defeat the globalists.
00:34:32.000And then we're going to open up all the books of all the paid-for media whores, and all the people on the Pentagon payroll, and I'm telling you right now, you're going to cold, hard shells, and cold, hard, busting rocks, you traitors.
00:34:47.000And everybody's going to know, I'm telling you, your enemies of the Republic, I've had enough of you claiming you're defenders of the Republic when you're the opposite!
00:34:56.000You tell us cyanide was mother's milk.
00:35:01.000You try to give us a false choice and act like you're against Hillary when your whole Republican machine is behind her.
00:35:09.000And I, for one, am not going to play games with it anymore.
00:35:12.000Joe, Mark, Robert, Rich, David, and many, many others that are patiently holding, we're going to get to your calls here in just a few minutes.
00:35:19.000Program note, I will be at the Alamo Draft House, South Lamar this evening, with a speech at the end, and an extended question and answer at the end of the film.
00:35:30.000I'll be doing double duty doing the live TV show during the film.
00:35:35.000And then I am also I'm going to be there tomorrow night at the beginning and the end of the film, the last showing, Alamo Draft House, South Lamar, this Thursday.
00:35:46.000And I hope to see you there to see Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
00:35:50.000If you want to get the premiere film exposing the history of the New World Order, who they are, where the Bilderberg Group meets, what their battle plans are, their own documents that we've had our agents basically get info out, steal it, and of course sources inside.
00:36:05.000It's all there, and then their master plan, the eugenicist.
00:36:09.000Why they want world government, and once they have it in place, how they plan to forcibly exterminate 80% of the world's population.
00:36:15.000Dr. Michael Kaufman will be discussing that with us, coming up in the next hour, and we'll have open phones as well.
00:36:22.000I hope you go to PrisonPlanet.tv right now.
00:36:28.000I passed the point of no return a long time ago.
00:36:30.000I committed 110% more than 12 years ago to this fight and I'm completely given over, completely consumed with the fight against these people and all I ask you to do is it's on that same burning spirit of liberty and freedom.
00:36:45.000And all I ask you to do is to go to PrisonPlanet.tv and to burn high quality copies of End Game Blueprint for Global Enslavement on the disc or DVD aggressively, dozens a day if you can do it.
00:36:58.000And get it out to everybody and savagely growl while you're doing it because that's where the winning the fight begins when you get down in your gut and you get serious and you commit.
00:37:11.000That's how we're going to bring these criminals to justice, is committing 110% in defense of this republic.
00:37:19.000That's how we're going to defeat these people instead of just submitting to them over and over again.
00:37:24.000I'm tired of submitting to their rape.
00:37:26.000I'm tired of them murdering millions of Iraqis in our name in the last 17 years.
00:37:31.000I'm tired of them putting cancer viruses in our vaccine and arresting teenagers for marijuana and enslaving us and CPS-ing people's children.
00:37:40.000I'm not going along with it anymore and I've committed myself to this.
00:37:45.000I've put myself out there on the field, however the chips fall.
00:38:32.000Or you can write to me right here deep in the heart of Texas at 3001 South Lamar, Suite 100, Austin, Texas, 78704.
00:38:46.000A lot of people in the system, a lot of people that work for this corrupt government, know now that we've been telling the truth all along.
00:39:32.000In fact, I mean, I don't even know what to say.
00:39:35.000When it is finally discovered by the average, self-righteous, important, know-it-all, twinkle-eyed yuppie that they have been absolutely robbed.
00:39:48.000I mean, it's such a magician's trick that the stock market is at $13,400 or whatever, And that for it to be at the purchase value of 2,000, it would have to be well above 20,000 points right now.
00:40:04.000It would have to be close to 23,000 points right now to just keep the same value that it had in the year 2000.
00:40:17.000And you have these people who've made 5-10% a year in the stock market, they cannot believe you When you explain to them, people play in the market, they're gambling.
00:40:29.000Gamblers Anonymous and they don't know it, they should definitely go.
00:40:33.000And so they willfully are in willful denial and they just refuse to listen to us.
00:40:39.000If we could have, a few years ago, made this a major issue, gotten people concerned, pointed out that it was a political decision made by the private banks that own this country and much of the planet, From their own documents, we could have politically forced them to not devalue the dollar, and to try to stabilize the economy.
00:41:00.000Instead, they went with just telling you it's great, while every real indicator went down the toilet.
00:41:06.000And now, this is going to make thirty-nine, this is going to make twenty-nine, this is going to make the late seventies.
00:41:12.000Unfortunately, any way you slice it, any way you dice it, any way you cut it would be devastating.
00:41:20.000But that's why I have so much anxiety now over this.
00:41:27.000And when I say I'm completely freaked out, I am.
00:41:30.000Because I know what this is going to do.
00:41:32.000The folks out there, the yuppies driving their sports utilities and their Lexuses, and I'm not bashing you for that.
00:41:38.000My point is, that's your God, that's your idol.
00:41:49.000They're so... Can you imagine them when they find out they're bankrupt?
00:41:53.000Can you imagine them when they find out they're going to lose everything?
00:41:55.000Can you imagine how they're going to behave?
00:41:58.000Well, I said a key point would be, when they plunged the economy, in the week before 9-11, they started plunging the stock market.
00:42:07.000And then they carried out the 9-11 attacks and said, oh, see, that made it all fall, and everybody blamed the Muslim extremists for hurting their pocketbooks.
00:42:15.000Well, even if you believe Muslim extremists did it, and don't know the facts, you would still understand that it was already plunging before then.
00:42:24.000And I've said a tell-tale size when they start saying Muslim extremists are plunging the economy.
00:42:30.000There's no connection, they don't ever give evidence, they don't ever give facts for that.
00:42:36.000You know, that's like saying of a water faucet bust in your kitchen that Al-Qaeda did it.
00:42:49.000You've got one crowd waking up more than ever and becoming enlightened.
00:42:52.000The other crowd getting even more willfully dumb and slovenly and arrogant in their ignorance.
00:43:01.000When they find out That this has happened.
00:43:03.000A lot of them are going to become more police state supportive.
00:43:06.000They're going to become more wild-eyed.
00:43:08.000They're going to tell the government, you do whatever you want, you just give us our economy back.
00:43:16.000And it's all a tool of control, and to see gold pushing its 1980 all-time record, about to break its all-time record, and I think it'll do it today, we've still got two and a half hours Until, or more than that, until 4 o'clock Eastern when gold closes, and it's gyrating between 833 and 837.
00:43:41.000In overseas trading last night, it went above 840, but we're talking about spot gold here in the United States.
00:43:49.000Gold futures and gold stocks are already way above that.
00:43:54.000Futures on gold are well above 840 right now.
00:43:59.000I'm not saying they're betting in the future that it will go above that.
00:44:47.000You might as well be talking Martian or Octarian to them.
00:44:51.000You might as well be talking Palladian to these people.
00:44:54.000They don't even, they can't even understand us folks when you try to warn them, when you try to talk to them.
00:44:59.000That's what George Orwell talked about, where they've destroyed the language and the meaning of words to the point of, they know how to act tough at the steakhouse, they know how to act cool at the golf course, they know how to act cool with their buddies and act like know-it-alls and posture.
00:45:14.000And they know how to run around talking about Islamic fascists and sticking NRA stickers all over their cars, not knowing that group literally was the fathers of the first gun control and the new gun control bill.
00:45:25.000They just can't believe that the illusion that they were sold was a fraud.
00:45:32.000And the people do perish for lack of knowledge.
00:46:54.000It's just like when I was driving down the road from visiting family out in Fredericksburg, and we hit Stonewall, about to go into Johnson City.
00:47:00.000It was raining real hard, the wind was blowing real hard, and I slowed down from 60 down to 45.
00:47:05.000We were driving down with a 30-foot embankment on each side, and all of a sudden, a tornado came through and shoved us right off the road.
00:47:11.000And those three seconds before we slammed into those oak trees, and it crushed half the car in, it just gave us concussions, thank God.
00:47:53.000And it's the exact same thing, but instead of three seconds being three minutes, it's like a couple months, a couple weeks being like years.
00:48:19.000Central bankers have totally gutted the country, totally set us up for collapse, funded all the Islamic extremists, documented history, hijackers train at U.S.
00:48:28.000basis, publicly on the payroll, public attack, I'm real time big, I've gotten, I frankly don't even like it, but I have to just continue to commit to this fight.
00:48:50.000But once it hits, I was in another car at one time where the car flipped three times when I was a teenager, and we were acting like idiots racing across a bridge, across a lake, from Rockwall into Dallas.
00:49:15.000But the Corvette in front of us that crashed, they didn't have their seatbelts on, and I saw them spinning through the air as the car was flipping end over end.
00:49:24.000Out the window, I could see it in slow motion.
00:49:28.000Well, it's the same thing, but instead it's weeks and months stretched out, and I'm seeing it race for impact, and it's like a hundred years.
00:49:39.000And all I want to do All I want to do is try to warn people.
00:50:03.000It's like, I live up the hill 10 miles, and I see the big dam break, and I got a helicopter, and I jump in it, or I jump on the radio, better analogy, and I tell people down in the valley, hey, listen, the dam broke.
00:50:14.000There's 20 feet of water coming at you at 60 miles an hour.
00:50:17.000Run for your lives, and they just giggle.
00:50:21.000Because it's just... And I know that when they set off attacks and launch wars, those...
00:50:30.000A bunch of people will rally around these killers again and they just get away with it.
00:52:07.000But how do you protect your family during such a crisis?
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00:53:58.000We met other whistleblowers on the side of the road in Maryland.
00:54:03.000You know, to hear what they could tell us.
00:54:05.000None of them revealed state secrets to us, by the way.
00:54:09.000But they had information and basically the government knew, you know, other than the exact moment, they knew the date and the method of which the attacks were supposed to come.
00:54:22.000And none of this made it to mainstream media.
00:54:25.000None of it made it into the commission.
00:54:28.000And yet, again, all of your representatives on the day that the commission book came out were on their pulpits saying, what a fabulous job this commission has done, a real service to this nation.
00:54:59.000We're going to be getting her on the show, Jersey Girl, Patty Kazzazza.
00:55:06.000Folks, I had a showing of Endgame Monday night at the Delamo Draft House, and these fellows who work for, let's just say the biggest internet technology company out there, had flown in all the way from San Francisco, two fellows and their girlfriends, And he told me the name of somebody who had rung a bell of a prominent FBI agent.
00:56:56.000And individually, go make 20 of those and put those up.
00:57:01.000There's no one I can talk to about the debates, though, how you said it earlier.
00:57:06.000They're talking about banning him and we have the article up on JonesReport.com.
00:57:09.000Call the Republican Party traitors of Iowa and just let those slime bags know that everybody knows he's a first tier candidate and how dare them even discuss it.
00:57:21.000Maybe some of them are good on there, I'm not saying they're all bad, but just the discussing is bad.
00:59:48.000I've heard about the Reese Commission, and I've looked online and had a bit of difficulty finding a concise summary.
00:59:56.000The former State Director of the John Birch Society told me there were like 4,000 pages of documents regarding this.
01:00:05.000And I don't know what it is, just in a nutshell, tell them.
01:00:09.000Well, basically, there was an investigation back in the fifties of the non-profit organizations, primarily the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, that they were like, they're up to something.
01:00:45.000Well, the thing is that they said that basically these nonprofit organizations had a hidden in plain sight kind of agenda.
01:00:53.000Yeah, the Carnegie Endowment for Peace, as early as the 20s, and the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation, see, the billions of dollars, that was billions 80 years ago, 90 years ago, they all went tax free.
01:01:07.000And then they used their, their mansions are owned by the foundation, their helicopters, their oil companies, it's all tax free.
01:01:15.000Just like the Gates, Bill and Melinda Gates things now tax-free, all 60-something trillion of it.
01:01:29.000I've interviewed the people that were staffers on it.
01:01:31.000They're all dead now, but being around 12, 13 years, I interviewed a few of them before they died.
01:01:35.000And yeah, I'd have to go back into all my files on that, but what specifically are you looking for?
01:01:39.000Well, yeah, the thing is that they would use the instrumentality of war, which I gather means the opening of the purse strings, the false sense of peace.
01:01:47.000Yeah, that's the Carnegie Foundation for Peace saying they would use war to bring in their world government, yeah.
01:01:58.000Yes, well, my website, I'll be the first to admit, is a wreck if doyoulovejesus.org, letter U, And I'm preparing a letter, in all fairness to Muslims, because I see this neoconsteady stream of vilification that it's like there's nobody being allowed to present the other side to say, wait a minute, these people, you know, it's the same old tactic of vilify somebody way over there.
01:02:26.000It's like, well, we need to deal with the problem here before we have any moral justification.
01:02:33.000I understand that Dr. Paul is a seasoned veteran of the political minefield.
01:02:37.000There's ammunition he doesn't use because I get the impression that if he did use it, it would They would distort it and make it sound like, well, he's crazy, like the Reeves Commission and the Grace Commission.
01:02:51.000Would you concur with that, that the reason why he doesn't use these certain... Well, he knows.
01:02:55.000I mean, he's talked about the tax-free foundations and the New World Order.
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01:07:15.000He was doing a multi-million dollar study for the U.S.
01:07:17.000government on the forest ecology of the entire U.S.
01:07:20.000and discovered that it wasn't about helping the earth, it was about taking control of property and controlling populations.
01:07:26.000That was back in the 80s and he helped shoot down the big biological diversity treaty that would have totally regulated everything that's happening.
01:07:34.000Now they're pushing man-made global warming.
01:07:37.000Certainly there's crises in the environment, but the sun is what's heating the earth.
01:07:48.000And he's one of the big contributors to the new film, Endgame Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
01:07:55.000And I would add to that, that I'm just now announcing this, in about two weeks, or on the 28th of November, we're going to release close to two hours.
01:08:08.000Really, you could call it Endgame 1.5.
01:08:12.000All of the interviews with Dr. Kaufman, Daniel Estillan, Jim Tucker, stuff at Brook Street, the police harassing us in Canada, things that we couldn't put in the film.
01:08:21.000I mean, right now it looks like more than two hours, but we'll see how much we end up, it might be three hours we put up, I'm not sure.
01:08:27.000But another reason to have a PrisonPlanet.tv membership, that is coming up the 28th!
01:08:32.000And you'll be able to download those, burn them to disk at prisonplanet.tv, get them out to people.
01:08:37.000And Dr. Kaufman, of course, is probably an hour of that two, three hours we're going to put out.
01:08:40.000So much vital info in the two days he was here that we interviewed him.
01:08:44.000He ended up being about seven, eight minutes of the two-hour-plus film and really a great contributor to it.
01:08:50.000In fact, he's one of the most prominent voices in the film.
01:08:53.000But there was just so much we couldn't have a four- or five-hour film, so we had to cut a lot of it out.
01:08:57.000But you will be able to see that in these expanded in-game extras that aren't on the DVD.
01:09:02.000There's 40 minutes of extras on the DVD.
01:09:04.000that are really just parts we cut out of the film as well, highly produced.
01:09:07.000A lot of this is just the raw, high-powered info and presentations, and then a lot of other things happening, so that is coming out in March.
01:09:15.000Going to Dr. Michael Kaufman, I haven't really asked him yet what he thought of the film.
01:09:37.000I think everyone that's listening to this needs to get a copy because it really defines what has been happening, how they're doing it, and what they're expecting to get in the future.
01:09:49.000It is one of the most earth-shattering DVDs I have ever seen in a truthful approach.
01:09:54.000You know, I have been in this now for almost 20 years, and everything that you're saying in there I know is either solid fact because I've researched it myself or have read enough to realize that there is that emphasis on that particular subject that I may not know as much about.
01:10:10.000And it is incredible what you have done with this, Alex.
01:10:16.000Oh, I literally, you ever have that feeling?
01:10:22.000I certainly know that I've really crossed a line here, but I'm putting that all in God's hands.
01:10:28.000Breaking down the film, because you're a big part of it, walk through what you thought, seeing about 90% of it so far because you just got it yesterday, walk through the parts that you thought were most important, or give us your impromptu review.
01:10:41.000Boy, trying to define what's the most important is really tough, because I think it's all important.
01:10:47.000If you need to understand, and this may be the most important aspect, what the DVD does, if you can keep an open mind, if you're not really aware of the magnitude of what's going on in the world, it will be so shocking, it will almost make you physically sick.
01:11:01.000But at the same time, what it does, is it allows the person to see the magnitude of what they're attempting to do over an entire society.
01:11:10.000In all aspects of our society, what we do, the whole feminist movement, you name it, It's in there in one form or another, and it's all designed to break down the normal society controls and re-establish itself, what they want to do, as the new template for our culture and bringing the nations together as a world government.
01:11:31.000There's no question after you see this that this is exactly what they're trying to do.
01:11:36.000What I really was impressed with is how you have brought the various segments of this Using headlines of local papers and so forth to show what they're doing in putting all of this together.
01:11:46.000The average person can't see this because all they're seeing is little bits and pieces.
01:11:53.000They see this headline and they think, oh that's interesting, but they see it in an isolated context.
01:11:58.000What you have done is been able to put that together in a total, in a totality as it were, so that people can really begin to see how it all fits together.
01:12:06.000It's the first time I've ever seen that.
01:12:09.000You know, we didn't talk before the show, and I haven't talked to you in a few months since you were last on, but that is exactly, and I never really even said that on air, that's what I was intending to do, was to give people the, you know, start to finish, just a wide view of what their ideology is, who they are, what their plan is, what drives them.
01:12:31.000And some of these, you only touch on, for instance, at least at this point, you only touched on global warming to some extent.
01:12:37.000My whole DVD Global warming or global governance really focuses on that one issue by itself and shows clearly how they have abused science and totally denied the opposition any voice in the media and so forth to push this agenda so that they can get those controls that will come with the carbon taxes and caps and so forth that is inevitable.
01:13:01.000It's going to happen in the next several years, how those controls will control us.
01:13:06.000And you've done that with so many aspects of this Well, that's it.
01:13:25.000I mean, we did spend a lot of time on eugenics and then all the thousands of admissions of where they've killed U.S., British, and other citizens in admitted tests.
01:13:35.000I mean, that shows the cold bloodedness and how it's all done scientifically, though, but as if we have the same value as a white lab rat.
01:13:46.000I'm not real knowledgeable in that area, but I have read enough material to know that what you're saying is factual, and it's taken me deeper into that area.
01:13:55.000It's given me some additional information, and you'll find this.
01:13:59.000Individually, you can't possibly understand everything in this global agenda.
01:14:06.000I mean, you could study one pine tree, as you know, that's your specialty, for your whole life and never know everything about that pine tree.
01:14:12.000We read, more than one guy here in the office, read 20 books by these people.
01:14:44.000I cannot explain to you what would you say in all your years of research about the globalists and the UN Biological Diversity Assessments where they openly talk about exterminating the majority of us and reducing us.
01:14:54.000I mean, as you were discovering that, what was it like for you realizing, my gosh, these people are nuts, they're psychopaths, they believe they're good, and they're in power.
01:15:05.000I went from one state of shock to another, and you know, what you have just said is very true.
01:15:09.000You start opening up this can of worms, and you think you have a handle on what's going on, and then you find out there's another dimension to it, and another dimension to it, and another dimension to it, and it gets worse, and worse, and worse, and I don't even think you probably plumbed the depths of deprivation that these people are in.
01:15:29.000There's no other way that you can describe them.
01:15:30.000And yet, they believe that they are doing the right thing.
01:15:36.000Doc, I want to talk about your video that's doing incredibly well because it's so well documented, and I want to go to the basics of global warming is happening, but it's sun-driven and also particle-driven from space, solar winds, but where do you see all this going?
01:15:51.000I mean, do you feel the same anxiousness I feel, and everybody else feels, that it's accelerating?
01:15:58.000I really see, in the next two years, Something precipitous is going to happen.
01:16:03.000In fact, David Rockefeller and Kissinger and others have actually said that they need a precipitous event to tip us over the edge.
01:16:11.0009-11 got us prepared and we got the Patriots Act and so forth put into place because of that and now they need a precipitous event in which they can Use our fear against us, and will that bring us some sort of an answer?
01:16:27.000I think it's going to be an economic crisis of some sort.
01:16:30.000I mean, we're running the brink of it right now anyway.
01:16:33.000And they have the only solution, and to do that we have to give up even more, and it's going to put us over on the other side of that slope.
01:16:45.000They see us as a disease, and so that's the perfect rationale for a thug Or a group of killers is just to say, oh, well, they're animals anyways.
01:17:39.000They really do believe that they are gods, and they need to be able to control us, to get rid of most of us.
01:17:44.000They believe that the Earth is overpopulated.
01:17:47.000They need to eliminate two-thirds to three-quarters, eighty percent of the human population, of the dumber sect and so forth, as you and I. And then they'll be able to manage the world the way gods should be able to manage.
01:18:01.000It is really incredible, their mentality.
01:18:06.000Now, many of the people at these international meetings, when you enter these international meetings, it is like walking into the Twilight Zone.
01:18:15.000Any semblance to reality just slides right out the window at times.
01:18:19.000It's not always that way, but many times, it is like they start talking about different things in ways that just are not possible.
01:18:28.000Stay there, I want to talk about that on the other side, to understand our enemy, to understand their mindset.
01:18:33.000And then to realize how they're conning a lot of well-meaning people who do care about the environment.
01:18:38.000And how they're using this to totally control our human environment and put a tax on breathing.
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01:23:35.000Doctor, again, the mindset of these people, they think they're doing holy work, but then you also study them, they also think darkness is wonderful and beautiful, as well as light.
01:23:51.000In fact, one of the things that is very prominent with the whole concept of theosophy is what is known as the secret societies and so forth, so that you do not know what the next level of initiation will be.
01:24:07.000And as a consequence, you're always striving to get to that next secret level of evolution, as it were, into higher states of knowledge.
01:24:15.000And as a consequence, what that does is it always keeps people off their guard, that they have to join the system in order to have these truths revealed to them, which is totally antithetical to a Christian society that we originally established this nation on.
01:24:31.000It doesn't exist anymore, but we originally established this nation on, which was open truth.
01:24:38.000You have everything that you need to have right available to you.
01:24:41.000It's up to you to take it and run with it.
01:24:44.000With these secret societies, it's always a situation in which you have to prove yourself to be worthy of going to the next step in order to accept the next level of knowledge.
01:24:55.000this gnosis these I mean how do we stop these people I don't I think what you're doing is absolutely essential.
01:25:06.000You mentioned on the video that More and more people are becoming aware, and that is very true.
01:25:11.000I kind of take a look at what I produced on global warming or global governance.
01:25:17.000That's kind of an introductory DVD, as it were, as to the realization that we are having this drive towards global governance.
01:25:24.000I don't get into it very deep, because I'm trying to reach those people who believe that you and I are black helicopter nuts and so forth.
01:25:31.000Well, here you have really important people saying the same thing that we're saying, but on a much lighter level.
01:25:38.000And once they begin to expose, and that's one of the things that has encouraged me about this DVD, is that I'm getting feedback from people that have been seeing it, which they had no understanding of global governance, or if they did, they thought it was some sort of a nutcase conspiracy type of thing.
01:25:52.000All of a sudden realizing, because there it is right in front of them, with this global warming agenda, that the whole purpose is to create global governance, and they're angry.
01:26:00.000Now, once they're angry, you can take a DVD like Endgame, And really show them the breadth of it.
01:26:06.000Now they're going to go into a state of absolute shock when they see it.
01:26:10.000I think everybody who has really investigated this could never believe the levels of what they have gone to to create this control over you and I and how long it's taken.
01:26:21.000I mean, it's taken multiple, multiple generations of men.
01:26:24.000That's why you have to understand it's the occult.
01:26:26.000You can't understand why A man would put so much of their efforts into an agenda which they would never see the fruition unless they realized it was a religious belief that they held that their future generations are going to benefit by what they're doing today.
01:26:41.000I agree, but also in the secular, it's like a 250-year-old university like Harvard or Yale.
01:26:49.000The chancellors and people that own it and run it want to increase its power and wealth because they sit in the positions of power while they're over it, but then they also have a feeling towards the institution, a lot of times the patronage and nepotism for those beneath them, and so that's also how these institutions grow and maintain their a lot of times the patronage and nepotism for those beneath Absolutely, and it's very interesting as I've attended a lot of these international meetings, the vast majority of those who are attending
01:27:17.000I have no concept of what the final agenda is going to be.
01:27:20.000Even people who are in positions of power.
01:27:27.000They think that they are doing the right thing, because people who are more important than they are, are telling them that they're doing the right things, and they can see the fruits.
01:27:35.000You know, socialism, the only reason socialism could survive, is the promise that if you did this, created all men equal and so forth, or treated all men equally, not created all men equally, Then somehow this is going to bloom into a utopian society.
01:27:48.000But for that model, you've got to have command and control and somebody over the individual.
01:27:54.000Now you've lost the individual and that's the trick.
01:27:56.000Now you've gotten a system where higher-ups can control you.
01:28:02.000Socialism is the unique way of gaining control over the population because it does exactly what you're saying.
01:28:08.000And of course the British monarchs literally funded and developed it, Lord Milner and the rest of them, as a way to get people back into serfdom.
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01:32:51.000Again, I want to take time out to thank all of our sponsors, the listeners, the stations that carry us, AM, FM, shortwave, internet, satellite.
01:32:57.000And I want to thank people like Dr. Michael Coffin for coming on with us.
01:32:59.000We've got loaded phone lines here for you, Doc.
01:33:01.000And I want to take some, but I want to make it clear.
01:33:04.000Because I've talked to you in the past, and I know we're of the same mind, the same research.
01:33:10.000And thousands of other prominent scientists and university experts have gone public on this.
01:33:16.000We know that there's dioxin from the plastics.
01:33:18.000We know there's toxins and stuff in the air.
01:33:20.000We know there's bad things in the environment.
01:33:22.000Genetic engineering can be dangerous if it's released openly and in chimera-crossed species.
01:33:27.000There's a lot of serious things going on.
01:33:30.000But the globalists have openly stated they're using conservation and our concern about the Earth to set up world government, to set up total federalization, to have control over people locally, to control markets.
01:34:26.000Now they're talking about can't have a 3,000 square foot house without government regulators, new bureaucrats, taxes on fuel at every level, taxes on consumption, controlling us.
01:34:39.000Oh, we're consuming too much, but this is about control.
01:34:41.000These are very wicked people that want to get control, and as evil as the globalist are with these international bodies that pose as liberal organizations, they're not.
01:34:52.000They want global taxation to fully be able to bring in An even greater mechanism of control.
01:34:59.000So can you just explain the scientific facts in a nutshell of, surprise, surprise, that huge burning ball of different gases that we see up in the sky every day, that that's what's driving the prime mover in climate, as any climatologist will tell you, and that, I mean, you know, to claim the carbon dioxide that's been ten times higher in our past, and we've literally had a much higher life load, much healthier, I mean, it's so simple, and I'm not even a scientist.
01:35:54.000Well, first of all, to keep it a simple thing, you've heard from Al Gore that CO2 causes the Earth to warm.
01:36:01.000He walks in front of this huge 40-foot screen showing you how there's this correlation between carbon dioxide, when carbon dioxide goes up, temperature goes up.
01:36:10.000When carbon dioxide goes down, temperature goes down.
01:36:12.000Well, there's a good correlation there alright, but the correlations mean nothing.
01:36:16.000100% of us are going to die if we breathe air.
01:36:21.000Not because we breathe air, but because there is a relationship there that has nothing to do with cause and effect.
01:36:28.000And this is the same thing with carbon dioxide and temperature, the Earth's temperature.
01:36:32.000In fact, if you were to actually superimpose the graph that he has separated, what you would find is that the temperature almost always precedes carbon dioxide, either going up or going down.
01:36:42.000And if anything, it's the temperature that causes the carbon dioxide levels to change.
01:36:47.000Because there's 40,000 times more carbon dioxide in our oceans than in the air.
01:36:53.000And carbon dioxide will go out of solution at warmer temperatures.
01:36:57.000When the temperatures of the ocean get warmer, the carbon dioxide evaporates off into the atmosphere and the atmospheric level of carbon dioxide goes up.
01:37:05.000And conversely, when the oceans cool down, it absorbs more carbon dioxide and the atmospheric levels go down.
01:37:13.000Just like you were saying a moment ago, there's good, hard, physical science behind it as to why temperature is causing carbon dioxide to change, not the reverse.
01:37:22.000Now, when you get to the actual information as to why the Earth is warming, a huge amount of research has been done over the last 10 years, and it's just coming to forefront right now, that shows that cosmic radiation from exploding supernovae thousands of light years away, when it finally reaches the Earth, That acts as what's called hydroscopic nuclei, that water droplets form around, in other words, clouds, specifically at the lower levels.
01:37:49.000Now, if you've ever flown in an airplane and you've flown over low clouds, it's almost impossible to look out at them because of their brilliance.
01:37:57.000So much sun is reflecting off the top of those clouds, it almost hurts your eyes to look at them.
01:38:04.000And albedo is the reflectance of the, direct reflectance of the solar radiation back out into space, Never reaches the Earth's surface.
01:38:11.000Therefore, lo and behold, and you've seen it every day, that it rains.
01:38:16.000It's colder under these clouds than it is when it's sunny outside.
01:38:20.000Now, every once in a while, on an 11 or 22 year cycle specifically, the Sun actually becomes more active.
01:38:27.000And when it does, it spews out solar winds.
01:38:31.000If you've ever seen the magnetic storms in the Aurora Borealis and so forth, that's what happens when you have a very active Sun.
01:38:39.000This See, solar winds have a tendency to push back this cosmic radiation right out of the sun's heliosphere, right out of our solar system.
01:38:47.000And as a consequence, when that happens, you have a situation where there is less clouds being formed because there's less cosmic radiation reaching the Earth's surface.
01:38:57.000Only 2-3% difference, but that's all it takes.
01:39:00.000You can account for all the global warming that we've had by 2-3% Reduction in our lower cloud levels over the last 50 to 100 years, and it's been demonstrated that this is almost a 95% correlation.
01:39:14.000But also, and in your film and other films document all the top scientists, they claim that 2,000 plus people signed on to that UN letter a few years ago, and it turned out that hundreds of scientists are saying, I wasn't even contacted, or I was contacted to give information, but I don't agree with this.
01:39:30.000But also, he claims that heating comes with carbon dioxide, But in the graphs, it's 200 to 600 years after.
01:39:38.000Carbon dioxide always follows heating, because heating causes photoplankton and plant blooms, which then increase carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
01:39:47.000It's an absolute ice core, and every other sampling, NASA sampling, that carbon dioxide follows warming, because a plant life-forms Exhaling in their respiration more carbon dioxide.
01:40:02.000I mean, it's a 2 plus 2 equals 4, but I can sit here and say to the public, how dare you, Dr. Michael Coffin, wanting to poison our children with hydrogen oxide?
01:40:14.000How dare you with deadly hydrogen oxide?
01:40:19.000Well, hydrogen oxide, tell them what hydrogen oxide is.
01:40:23.000Well, you can't live without hydrogen oxide.
01:40:33.000But, you know, they've gone out, different crews, and gone out to environmental, you know, fairs and walked up and said, we've got to ban this, sign our petition.
01:41:17.000If one of those is missing, we would not have life on planet Earth.
01:41:21.000But how dare the plants spew this deadly waste?
01:41:25.000I mean, they're assaulting our children with deadly carbon dioxide!
01:41:31.000Well, you know, that's the other fallacy of this whole thing, is the fact that there's less than 1% of all the greenhouse gases that is made up of man-caused or man-emitted carbon dioxide.
01:41:47.000Carbon dioxide 97% of it is naturally created by trees, plants, and other sundry things.
01:41:54.000But I mean, the botanists and experts have found that plants can grow three times faster, live longer, be healthier, they create higher oxygen.
01:42:01.000They've done studies and found that they believe that during the Hyborian Maxim 7,000 years ago, that humans were healthier because of higher oxygen.
01:42:11.000A lot of scientists are saying that we're actually in a oxygen-starved, carbon dioxide-starved mode, and that carbon dioxide is mother's milk to life.
01:42:23.000There's been literally thousands of these studies being done to show that food production, for instance, can be doubled.
01:42:30.000Increased by 50% with a doubling of carbon dioxide, doubled with a tripling of carbon dioxide.
01:42:34.000And the oceans, the plankton do better, then the krill, then the shrimp, then the minnows, then the larger fish up to the bluefin tuna and the great whites.
01:42:43.000This would be good for the ocean, but they don't want it!
01:42:46.000They do not, well, it's not that they don't want it.
01:42:48.000They don't want us to know about it, because if we know about it, we'll know how much of a fool they are and we won't go along with their agenda.
01:42:54.000They're using this whole thing as an agenda item in order to enslave us.
01:42:59.000As you said in your DVD, there is no question of this.
01:43:02.000There is no viable science, and I'll say this in a hard and fast way, there is no direct science that shows that man is causing global warming.
01:43:11.000I have looked at literally thousands of research results, and there is none.
01:43:15.000There's a lot of circumstantial evidence, but so what?
01:43:19.000The hard evidence that we do have suggests that what we're seeing today is part of a natural cycle, and we're recovering from what is called the Little Ice Age, back in the 1700s and 1800s.
01:43:30.000It's a natural warming, and thank God, because back in the Little Ice Age, that's when you had the Black Plagues of Europe and mass starvation because crop failures and all the rest.
01:43:40.000Huge snowstorms is when the Thames River and London froze over every year.
01:44:21.000It was part of our high school education, if not our elementary education, and all that material has been taken out.
01:44:26.000Our history courses have been dumbed down to very mundane types of understanding of history, totally eliminating the concept of what private property rights mean to wealth creation and all the rest.
01:44:40.000You and I, when we grew up, well maybe not you, maybe you were too late, You're a lot younger than I am, but when I grew up, it was part of our curricula.
01:44:47.000We understood how important private property rights are, or how important this is, and that's not being taught anymore.
01:44:53.000Oh no, we were just taught that world government was good and handing in guns is good.
01:44:56.000I want to take some calls, but if folks want global warming or global government, your DVD film, it's available.
01:45:02.000At Infowars.com, you can also get it discounted with Endgame together as a combo pack on Infowars.com.
01:45:54.000Don in Texas, you're on the air with Dr. Michael Kaufman.
01:45:59.000I'd like to return to the subject that you brought up, sir, of theosophy, and I'd like to comment on what Alex often says.
01:46:07.000It's not actually what we believe that's important, it's important what they believe, because they're actually making the moves off of their beliefs, so whether it's true or not, the fact that they believe that is very Exactly!
01:46:20.000Every time I talk about the globalist being a cultic, atheists send me emails going, I don't believe in that, you kook!
01:47:09.000And doctor, I'd like for you to comment on this.
01:47:11.000Once you start learning about what They know there's so much disinformation within what they're learning.
01:47:18.000It seems to me that the root of theosophy and all of this occult stuff is a concept called star-seeding, and I'd like you to comment on this, that they actually believe that they are descendants of a cross between alien and the human species, and that is what separates them from the normal man.
01:47:35.000Yes, in fact, not all of them believe that necessarily, but I have read that.
01:48:51.000I wrote that book trying to help people understand what is motivating the environmental movement and where it's coming from and what they believe in, because unless you understand what they believe in, you will not know where they're going.
01:49:01.000It's one of the reasons I was able to stop right an hour before the Senate was to vote on it, the Convention on Biological Diversity, because I knew exactly what they were trying to do.
01:49:12.000They didn't believe me, and I finally got the evidence, the smoking gun, The day before that they were supposed to vote on it and send it down to the U.S.
01:49:20.000Senate, and it was introduced on the Senate floor an hour before the scheduled vote for ratification of this treaty, and it just literally blew it right out of the water.
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01:54:28.000I mean, to hear Hagee, and this is not a religious show, but this is the guy who's all pro-war, knew Kyran all this, and Dr. Kaufman, the network even has the club.
01:56:12.000And what I do is I basically define exactly where the environmental movement came from, and more importantly, what they really believe in, in the leadership of the environmental movement.
01:56:21.000Where they're taking us into this occult belief that nature is God and we must worship nature.
01:56:28.000All I know is, is that everything's being turned upside down right now.
01:56:54.000Alright ladies and gentlemen, we're going to get an amazing individual on the line with us.
01:57:01.000After this break, Mark Stepnoski, and many of you know who he is if you're football fans, I remember watching him on television myself back when I still had time to watch television and football games back in the mid-1990s, growing up in Dallas, quite a Cowboys fan, and he has eloquently spoken out for 9-11 Truth, and he's scheduled to join us coming up in the next hour with some other big 9-11 breaking news as well.
01:57:54.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:57:58.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:03.000Last week, George Carlin, legendary, top comedian in the country, Went public and said he doesn't believe the official story and questions it.
01:58:12.000Martin Sheen, of course, last week also went public.
01:58:17.000Charlie Sheen, his son, last year was the first big star to go public.
01:58:21.000Now we've had a bunch of other top Hollywood stars and others go public.
01:58:25.000And the point is, is this takes a lot of courage for him to do, and more and more people are starting to stand up and speak out.
01:58:32.000We had a story a couple days ago, former NFL star, latest to question, 9-11 official story, ex-Dallas Cowboys lineman Stipnoski tells Indiana newspaper of doubts.
01:58:43.000And I believe Paul got that little part of the headline wrong right there.
01:58:46.000But let me give you his bio, then we're going to go to him.
01:58:48.000Mark Matthew Stipnoski is a former American football offensive lineman in the NFL.
01:58:54.000He attended Cathedral Preparatory School in Erie, Pennsylvania and went on to star at the University of Pittsburgh.
01:59:00.000Stepnoski's pro career in the NFL was spent with the Dallas Cowboys from 89 to 94 and then back from 99 to 2000 and the Houston Oilers from 95 to 98.
01:59:09.000Stepnoski won two Super Bowls while with the Cowboys, remember watching those, and was a five-time pro bowler attending the game from 92 through 96.
01:59:18.000Also notable among his achievements Are the contributions he made to help Emmett Smith become the all-time rushing champion of the NFL?
01:59:28.000And again, in November 2007, Sapnowski expressed support for the 9-11 Truth Movement, and he is also working with Normal, which I don't smoke marijuana, it makes me paranoid, but I think it should be legalized.
01:59:39.000George Washington smoked it, and it has thousands, it's a miracle drug, much bigger than aspirin, And Mattel's throwing you in jail for that, but you can take Ritalin and Prozac all day, or Hillbilly Heroin, or the Oxycontin.
01:59:52.000But, sir, I am so honored to have you on with us.
02:00:14.000Yeah, that was a Tuesday, which that was my last year playing football in the NFL, and that was our day off.
02:00:22.000So I happened to catch a decent amount of it on TV.
02:00:25.000And I just remember at the time thinking to myself, you know, is this really a terrorist attack on us by a foreign nation?
02:00:32.000Or is this a false flag operation being conducted by our government?
02:00:37.000And the reason I say that is because for years leading up to that, I had read several books about the Kennedy assassination, about Watergate, and also an excellent book, Oklahoma City and the Politics of Terror.
02:00:51.000Which really kind of laid out a lot of the unofficial story about that event.
02:00:58.000And I noticed there were a lot of parallels between that event and 9-11, as far as bombs being found in the building, scientists coming out and saying that an ammonium nitrate bomb could never cause that much damage, I read another book about McVeigh's trial called Others Unknown, which was actually written by the gentleman who represented him.
02:01:19.000And he was convinced that there were other people involved in that event that never were brought to justice.
02:01:27.000So there were just a lot of similarities between the two.
02:01:31.000Yeah, once that event occurred, I was skeptical, and then obviously, you know, once you start following it from the get-go, you're exposed constantly to information to reinforce your belief.
02:02:00.000Now the Southern Poverty Law Center, it's come out in federal documents, was basically running Elohim City, the white supremacist compound.
02:02:10.000Again, the two events, there's so much information behind the scenes.
02:02:16.000Well, you're a well-known iconoclast, known for being quite intellectual in your own right, and I'm just very impressed just talking to you in a few minutes here.
02:02:23.000I'm very excited about the 55 minutes we've got left with you, sir.
02:02:27.000We'll be right back with pro bowler, two-time NFL Super Bowl champion, Mark Stepnoski.
02:02:34.000I'm Alex Jones, and this is the GCN Radio Network.
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02:06:14.000He is a five-time pro bowler, two-time Super Bowl champion, and he's the guy that opened up those big holes and recredited most of those big holes driving through so that Emmitt Smith could get that all-time record.
02:06:28.000And I asked him what he wanted to talk about, and he said, hey, 9-11 is the big issue.
02:06:31.000We'll talk some about the war on drugs.
02:06:34.000And I think the angle we were just taking in the last segment of how you woke up, and now we're learning a little bit more than we learned in the Erie newspaper from Monday, that you woke up because you'd studied history.
02:06:50.000And again, history, knowing the past, we then know the future.
02:06:54.000So let's walk through and maybe recap.
02:07:00.000Expand on how you were already aware of false flag, what you thought that day, and why you've taken this major plunge going public for 9-11 Truth.
02:07:08.000Well, I just think that, you know, growing up reading books about the Kennedy assassination, books like High Treason, you know, there's so many books out there and videos of, The Men Who Killed Kennedy, the five-part series that's played on cable television, was really well done.
02:07:26.000But that was just a great introduction over the years of, you know, some of the clandestine activities that occur with the military and with the intelligence services, things that you're never going to see in mainstream media.
02:07:42.000And then again, you know, just going along that line throughout that time period, studying the Vietnam War, Watergate, all these things that Signify a cover-up by the government.
02:07:56.000As time goes on, you become more and more aware, as a citizen, that secrecy is the rule of the day with our government.
02:08:05.000And any time that anything revelatory comes to light regarding the nefarious activities of our government, it's immediately discredited and hushed up.
02:08:17.000So, you know, fortunately we live in an era where alternative media provides true sources of information that can't be sanitized by corporations.
02:08:29.000If I can just add, speaking of the Kennedy assassination, now over 90% of Americans in major polls believe the government killed him.
02:08:36.000I mean, E. Howard Hunt now Now, deathbed confession, only Rolling Stone reports on it.
02:08:41.000I mean, we now have the CIA section chief, the guy who was photographed at the scene by the Dallas Morning News, Dallas Times Herald, now admitting that he did indeed run the op to kill him, and it's not on the national news!
02:08:54.000Absolutely, and we see things like that all the time.
02:08:59.000Recently, this past summer, documents were released proving that the CIA often worked hand-in-hand with organized crime figures to implement their plans.
02:09:11.000All these things that at the time would have been considered quote-unquote conspiracy theory are now being substantiated as being true.
02:09:19.000So again, fortunately we live in a time where information is a little bit more accessible, so it's becoming harder and harder for a corrupt government to cover up their illegal activities.
02:09:30.000You know, in the 60s it took years and years before the Zapruder film was even released.
02:09:39.000They admit Gulf of Tonkin was staged just as we always knew now they declassified totally staged Yeah, absolutely.
02:09:46.000I thought the movie the fog of war with Robert McNamara did a great job of just letting people know What that behind the scenes planning consists of you know, and there's so many parallels, you know You look at that, the false intelligence leading to war, same thing that's going on now.
02:10:06.000But like you said earlier, if people don't read and they're not familiar with history, it's not as apparent to them that these things happen over and over again throughout time.
02:10:16.000Well, history's like having the other team's playbook, isn't it?
02:10:21.000When you see modern events unfold around you, it's a lot easier to interpret them if you have read their mail, so to speak, ahead of time.
02:10:33.000Now, what made you decide to take the plunge for 9-11 Truth?
02:10:38.000Well, it just became a question of not really being able to be quiet about it anymore.
02:10:43.000I've talked to my friends about it all the time for the last six years.
02:10:48.000You know, I will gladly speak with anybody who wants to talk about it.
02:10:51.000Initially, you know, people were very reluctant to even entertain the possibility that it was an inside job.
02:10:58.000But again, as the years have gone on, as time has gone on, you know, now we're six, seven years out, enough information is out there to where people are willing to consider it more seriously.
02:11:10.000You know, you're probably familiar with Peter Phillips from Project Censored.
02:11:22.000You know, people really need to get to the point where they can assimilate enough information to make that leap.
02:11:28.000To go, to think, you know, beyond the parameters that they already possess.
02:11:33.000It's like, once we finally believe that we can fly, within a few years of thousands of tinkerers trying it, the Wright Brothers at Kitty Hawk were able to do it, or Copernicus had enough knowledge to finally convince people the world was round and not flat, or Galileo, that the earth orbited the sun, not the sun the earth.
02:11:51.000Yeah, people, when you try to hit them with this all at once, if they're totally uninformed and this information is entirely foreign to them, they're really not willing to entertain it, because it's just too much of a paradigm shift for them.
02:12:07.000But for people who gradually are exposed to more and more information, it's less and less of a shock to them.
02:12:13.000I think we've reached that point now, because honestly, When you look at the information that's out there and the credibility of the sources, anybody now who still believes the official story of 9-11 is either incredibly naive or exhibiting complete and total denial.
02:12:34.000Well, we know denial is certainly a powerful factor, but did you decide to really speak out and go public?
02:12:42.000I mean, I'm just asking because you think things are getting more serious or that they may be planning something else.
02:12:48.000I mean, I'm just speculating because more people that I've talked to that are going public now say that's their reason.
02:12:53.000I mean, does that play any factor here?
02:13:24.000And anybody who is familiar with all these military exercises that are constantly going on, they realize that not a lot of people are needed to pull off a false flag attack like that.
02:13:47.000Embassy, ordered to let hijackers back into the country and was told, don't worry, the terror designation is their cover, they're government agents.
02:13:54.000I mean, that right there, and those are only a few of thousands of smoking guns.
02:13:58.000Drills of the exact same buildings attacked at the exact same time by aircraft, and then Bush says he never heard of a plan to attack buildings with planes?
02:14:08.000When you think back to the time prior to 9-11, all the precautions that were taken at the GA Summit in Italy, you know, these are all scenarios that have been discussed by policy makers.
02:14:27.000So then obviously when they see this scenario envelop, They don't think of it in terms of a drill or an exercise gone live.
02:14:35.000They think of it in terms of, you know, a terrorist attack from an outside entity.
02:14:39.000But again, when you listen to the transcripts of the air traffic controllers on the day of 9-11, the first words out of their mouth was, is this live or is this an exercise?
02:14:49.000And then they said, I've never seen so much real world going on during an exercise.
02:14:57.000Yeah, and I think you read a book like Crossing the Rubicon by Mike Rupert or 9-11 Synthetic Terror Made in the USA by Webster Tarpley.
02:15:09.000These guys do a great job of highlighting how many military exercises were taking place on that day and how they served to make the event possible and also to confuse people at the time.
02:15:24.000Who are in charge of trying to deter things like that from happening.
02:15:29.000But again, I sometimes think that people don't realize how much influence the military has on everyday life in the US.
02:15:39.000Well, then there was also Tripod 2 going on, where they did a simulation of terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center complex with the Port Authority.
02:15:49.000They'd moved the Emergency Management Center the week before out to the end of the pier, out of the big spook complex, Building 7.
02:15:56.000Then the head of FEMA in New York says, yeah, we deployed the night of September 10th.
02:16:00.000Then he backed off and said I was wrong.
02:16:02.000Then Giuliani said I was told to get out of the building because Tower 1 and 2 were going to fall, and we were running an exercise.
02:16:08.000Then he said he didn't say it, but then we have the video and audio of it.
02:16:14.000Yeah, there are just too many lies for people to go back and, you know, cover them up.
02:16:19.000It's such a web of lies that, you know, people like Giuliani have already contradicted themselves repeatedly.
02:16:27.000But again, you know, when you think about the similarities to the Oklahoma City bombing, you know, that day the alcohol, tobacco, and firearm agents who were employed in that building didn't show up for work.
02:16:38.000And then showed up a minute after in full bomb gear and the police said, why are you here?
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02:22:18.000The question before the break, Mark, you know, the pre-bragging about how terror attacks are coming, we're going to change the way you live, we need these terror attacks.
02:22:27.000I mean, the motives right there, the 44,000 U.S.
02:22:30.000troops massed around Afghanistan, the carriers ready to attack in the week before.
02:22:37.000Yeah, that's the other thing that, you know, people think that 9-11 just came out of clear blue sky and all of a sudden we had this massive mobilization.
02:22:45.000But you can't just stage an invasion on that short of notice.
02:22:49.000I mean, anybody who goes back and looks can see all the plans that were laid in place prior to the invasion and that obviously 9-11 gave them the pretext to do it.
02:23:22.000I just think that it's their desperate reaction to the situation regarding peak oil.
02:23:31.000I very much believe that peak oil is a reality.
02:23:34.000That's a theory that was stressed heavily by Mike Rupert on his From the Wilderness website.
02:23:42.000I totally agree with his thinking on that.
02:23:45.000I mean, all of the evidence points to rapid depletion of fossil fuels coinciding with greatly increased demand.
02:23:54.000So when I see the importance placed on the strength of the dollar, how the only thing that gives our dollar any kind of value is the fact that oil is traded in U.S.
02:24:05.000dollars, to me it all ties in together.
02:24:08.000It's a need to continue fossil fuel supply to the U.S.
02:24:12.000Jimmy Carter You know, 30 years ago I said that Mideast oil was a national security issue for the United States.
02:24:20.000And that, if anything, that whole attitude has grown.
02:24:25.000That's first and foremost, you know, our military It's now used as basically an instrument to secure and protect oil supplies because that is the lifeblood of our economy.
02:24:37.000Well, either way, we know it is a national security issue, whether peak oil with them creating artificial scarcity, and it is harder to extract now, or whether it's actually happening.
02:24:47.000Regardless, they are creating an energy crisis.
02:24:53.000Yeah, and again, you know, it's 60% of the recoverable oil in the world is in the Middle East.
02:25:01.000It's in a piece of land roughly the size of Texas.
02:25:04.000And I believe that's why Dick Cheney, even though he was subpoenaed several times, he would not release the records from his Energy Task Force in 2001, because that's exactly what was discussed in that meeting.
02:25:16.000But O'Neill was there, you're right, Treasury Secretary was there, and four days into their, in the White House, they had maps up about what they were going to carve up.
02:25:25.000And there's a Canadian author, her name is Linda McQuaig, and she wrote a book called It's the Crude Dude.
02:25:30.000And she was one of, I believe, the first people in Canada to include that information.
02:25:34.000It was finally pried out of the White House after about the fourth or fifth subpoena.
02:25:40.000So again, that was another perfect example of secrecy on the part of the White House.
02:25:45.000goes hand-in-hand with everything that they have done leading up to this point.
02:25:49.000People, I think, have a tendency to forget that this is the same group of guys that was involved in the first Bush administration that were responsible for the Ron Contra.
02:25:59.000They had a hand in the savings and loan debacle.
02:26:02.000These guys have a long history of illegal activity and then covering it up.
02:26:08.000Now that they're getting caught and they're cornered, what do you think they're going to do?
02:26:16.000It's kind of frightening to think about it.
02:26:20.000I don't really know sometimes if it even makes a difference at this point, because now, should a Democrat win the White House in the next election, they have already pretty much acquiesced and said that they will continue the war.
02:26:35.000Should Hillary Clinton win, she has already agreed to, I think, stay in Iraq at least until 2013.
02:26:44.000From what I understand, most Democrats have signed on for an invasion of Iran.
02:26:51.000So, I think a lot of people in the U.S.
02:26:54.000have a somewhat false hope about an administration change to a different political party is going to result in new policy.
02:27:06.000When we get back, let's get into more of the serious things that make you question the official story on 9-11, and then talk about The fact that Congress has an 11% approval rating, so that's the good news.
02:27:17.000Now both parties have been exposed, and I think some people aren't awake like you said, but a lot of others are waking up to the fact that the establishment owns all the horses in the race.
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02:31:33.000Since retiring from football six years ago, Mark Stapnoski has changed countries, buying a house in Vancouver, British Columbia, where he now lives with his long-time girlfriend.
02:31:43.000He's also changed lifestyles, trading the hectic demands of playing for the NFL for the relatively laid-back retirement that includes travel, reading, and taking in concerts and performing arts.
02:31:53.000But Sipnowski, 40, always a bit of an iconoclast, hasn't changed.
02:31:57.000He continues to work towards the legalization of marijuana, an effort that began pursuing in the earnest after leaving football.
02:32:05.000And he has now added a new interest, speaking out publicly, it's really an old interest we learn now, 9-11 Truth Movements, whose adherents question the mainstream accounts.
02:32:14.000And I read it here, he's also a fan of George Carlin, who said he questions the official story last week.
02:32:21.000What do you think of George Carlin now saying he questions the official story?
02:32:52.000There are so many people who know what's going on who haven't yet spoken out or gone public, but I just pray that that happens, because as more people go public, it makes it safer for others to do it, and I really think a mass awakening, a renaissance of awakening, could totally expose false flag terror and really inoculate the public against it to where the New World Order basically can't use that tool anymore.
02:33:19.000I agree, and I think one of the things that is helping people come to that conclusion is the amount of information that's out there that is sourced from mainstream media.
02:33:29.000Now, you're never going to see discussions like we are having today in mainstream media, but at the same time, a lot of people who are skeptical of the things we are talking about You know, they always tend to believe that these sources that we are reading on the internet or in books or magazines are subversive, unsubstantiated, but that's why I think people should
02:33:56.000Should be open to reading things like the Terror Timeline by Paul Thompson, which is entirely sourced from mainstream accounts.
02:34:03.000People can look at how this information is put together even when it is gleaned from major media.
02:34:10.000So I think, you know, once people expose themselves to that kind of book Or, if they read something by David Ray Griffin, which debunks some of the theories being put out by mainstream media, then I think they'll be a little bit more willing to accept some of the things that we are talking about today.
02:34:28.000Well, here's an example of debunking poplar mechanics.
02:34:31.000We'll show some physicist and say, they just say, oh it's not true, with a guy saying expert under him, some 20 year old kid.
02:34:39.000Or they would say, oh NORAD never intercepted any plane before 9-11 but Payne Stewart in 2000, the golfer.
02:34:47.000And then we went and got the very same spokesman for NORAD who said that to popular mechanics in AP and Reuters, during the Payne Stewart thing, saying they had 167 of them in just the months before that.
02:34:59.000I mean, you know, my dad's a pilot and he's been off course before and, you know, they get on the radio and threaten to send an F-16s up when he's flying around a storm in a Cessna over Central Texas.
02:35:08.000So, I mean, it's just they build strongmen.
02:35:12.000Yes, I think, you know, once people become familiar with the protocol that exists, it's readily apparent that that protocol was broken on that day.
02:35:21.000And that, you know, the events that happened that day, the way they transpired, That is not commonplace.
02:35:32.000Who's in charge as far as giving the order to shoot down planes?
02:35:36.000There is a protocol that's been established, and like you said, it's been followed repeatedly in the past.
02:35:44.000So, to see such a divergence from the normal way that things are supposed to occur, as far as the response of jets and the response of NORAD, it just goes without saying that it's an anomaly.
02:35:58.000You know, things were purposely altered that day.
02:36:02.000And then we have all these first responders, medical workers, police, scores of them saying they heard the 22nd countdown when they blew up Building 7, and then BBC, 25 minutes before it falls on two different channels, says we've just gotten word Building 7, Salomon Brothers, has fallen from fire, total collapse, and there it is behind them, out the window, and they gave the exact official story that later came out hours later.
02:36:28.000Yeah, in addition to, I'm sure a lot of your listeners are familiar with Larry Silverstein's comments about the building being pulled as if it was being demolished.
02:36:38.000I was fortunate enough a couple months ago to go see William Rodriguez speak live in Vancouver, and I was already familiar with his story, but nonetheless, it was really compelling to go see him in person and listen to it firsthand.
02:36:53.000Yeah, like you said, the amount of eyewitnesses who were there that day, they're becoming more and more vocal.
02:37:02.000I think that people are starting to realize that they're hearing the alternative belief now about what really happened that day.
02:37:11.000The difference is they're not hearing it from corporate media.
02:37:16.000Well, speaking of that, up on PrisonPlanet.com, we have the George Washington Blogspot thing here.
02:37:21.0009-11 family member, Patty Cazazza, government new exact date and exact targets.
02:37:27.0009-11 family member, Jersey girl, Patty Cazazza, has just revealed that the whistleblower told her that before 9-11, the government knew the exact day, the type of attack, and the targets.
02:37:37.000And she had to meet the government whistleblower at an undisclosed location off the side of the highway.
02:37:43.000But we've now confirmed that they ordered FBI agents that knew the exact details to back off and shut up, demoted them, and then Robert Wright, the head terror expert in Chicago, goes up before the National Press Club and says, "Here's a letter from Ashcroft.
02:37:58.000"I'll be arrested if I tell you what I know "under national security.
02:38:01.000All I can tell you is the Bush's vacation with the Bin Laden's.
02:38:04.000Here is a Jersey girl, Patty Cazaza, talking about one of the inside whistleblowers giving her this information.
02:38:13.000I met other whistleblowers on the side of the road in Maryland.
02:38:17.000You know, to hear what they could tell us.
02:38:19.000None of them revealed state secrets to us, by the way.
02:38:24.000But they had information and basically the government knew, you know, other than the exact moment, they knew the date and the method of which the attacks were supposed to come.
02:38:37.000And none of this made it to mainstream media.
02:38:40.000None of it made it into the commission.
02:38:42.000And yet, again, all of your representatives on the day that the commission book came out were on their pulpits saying, what a fabulous job this commission has done, a real service to this nation.
02:39:03.000Going back to Mark Stamnoski, two-time Super Bowl winner, five-time Pro Bowler, Dallas Cowboys, and of course the Texas Oilers, now the Tennessee Titans.
02:39:13.000I mean, that is another amazing testimony right there, and as these things mount, they can't ignore it, Mark.
02:39:19.000I'll tell you, Alex, I'm so glad that you mentioned the Jersey Girls.
02:39:22.000I was hoping we could discuss them briefly, because, you know, when people who believe the official story of 9-11 hear skeptics talk about it, they always accuse us of not being sensitive to the victims' families.
02:39:41.000And that also goes for the war in Iraq or Afghanistan.
02:39:46.000If you question the official story, if you exhibit any kind of skepticism, they automatically equate that as being disrespectful to the families of the 9-11 victims or of the soldiers who have died in war.
02:40:02.000And I totally disagree with that, you know, because as you just have shown, the family members of these victims are some of the most outspoken critics of the official story, and they, as much as anyone, are trying to get to the bottom of what really happened on that day.
02:40:19.000So I believe it's the total opposite, that by questioning these things, we are doing everything we can to help these families of victims and slain soldiers find out The whole reason behind why they had to die in the first place.
02:40:38.000Over a year and a half ago now, I interviewed in a semi-film, Terror Storm, Bill Doyle, the head of 7,000 plus victims and family members, survivors of 9-11, lost his son, Joey, on that morning.
02:40:53.000He came on the show and he said, I believe it's a total inside job.
02:41:28.000And I think it goes hand-in-hand with the whole secrecy theme that we discussed earlier.
02:41:34.000Whether it's the 9-11 Commission, whether it's Justice Department emails, whether it's extraordinary rendition by the CIA, it could be domestic spying by the NSA, whatever it is, This administration's policy has been secrecy and denial.
02:41:52.000So again, that's a pattern that's been clearly established, you know, since the administration began in 2000.
02:42:02.000So again, I don't understand, you know, people are willing to accept that the administration withheld information and all those other related areas.
02:42:12.000Yet, for some reason, it's still tough for some people to apply that same thinking to Line 11 and to believe that the administration was keeping secrets about that also.
02:42:24.000I want to shift gears and come at you from left field, because I just thought of this.
02:42:27.000About a year and a half ago, we talked to Kevin Tillman, Pat Tillman's brother.
02:43:03.000Now that other Special Forces folks on who read some of those, stage photo ops, blowing up caves and things that nobody was even in, putting out uniforms and staging events, and that Pat was really mad.
02:43:16.000Three times at close range in the head, a triple burst, from closer than 15 yards, not thousand yards or whatever, that they kept shooting him, that he kept begging to not be shot, it kept saying stop, and that they basically killed him.
02:43:33.000Then the Army doctors and investigators said it was murder.
02:43:37.000We know that they killed some of the people that spoke out about the Private Lynch thing being staged.
02:43:42.000Well, I just think that that whole situation is tragic.
02:43:44.000Do you have any comments on, and they've admitted a lot of murders have happened in the military to cover things up, any comments on Pat Tillman?
02:43:51.000Well, I just think that that whole situation is tragic.
02:43:55.000It's just, it's extremely disappointing to see his idealism be subverted and to be basically him to be used as an agent of propaganda.
02:44:12.000I didn't know Pat, but I paid attention to his story, you know, simply because he's a former NFL player and it got a lot of attention.
02:44:20.000And I don't question his motives or his idealism one bit, and I don't fault him in any way for wanting to do what he thought was right.
02:44:30.000But at the same time, I just think it's tragic that when he did join, he and his brother decided to do what they did, he was championed by the media.
02:44:40.000He was looked at as a hero, and rightfully so.
02:44:44.000His story was used as a way to propagate the drums for war further.
02:44:51.000And then when he wound up unfortunately and tragically getting killed, that was also used as a way to further the agenda for war.
02:45:02.000Even though, as you just clearly explained, they didn't tell the truth about the circumstances surrounding his death.
02:45:09.000So it was so disheartening to see a guy being used throughout the entire process, used as a guy to sell the war, and then after he was killed, that was used as a way to try and drum up patriots.
02:45:24.000And they covered up the fact that he'd written letters and was firmly against the war, saying it was an illegal war and a fraud.
02:45:32.000Yeah, and I guess, like you said, you know, he was planning to make some connections with famous anti-war speakers, you know, Noam Chomsky, Cindy Sheehan, those were some names that were thrown around.
02:45:45.000And again, you know, the whole reason that we're supposed to be over there fighting is for our freedoms, right?
02:45:52.000It's supposedly to protect our freedoms.
02:45:55.000Yet here is a guy who obviously had his freedoms suppressed in the most drastic way possible, and that was by killing him.
02:47:29.000I think that, you know, a vital and functioning democracy depends on an informed voting populace.
02:47:36.000You know, we don't have a chance of holding our leaders accountable if we don't educate the public on what is going on and what we can possibly try to do to prevent it.
02:47:47.000If you're going to expect constitutional government to react in the way that it's supposed to, then impeachment proceedings would be the way to go.
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02:52:49.000The history of government-sponsored terror, and I take the approach in the same way I woke up, in the same way that Mark woke up, is going through all the declassified admissions of government-sponsored terror.
02:52:59.000So I hope folks will get in game at InfoWars.com.
02:53:02.000Mark, in closing, I want to ask you about Ron Paul, but we've got about four minutes left.
02:53:07.000Real fast, that's another point we didn't get into, all the admitted declassified examples of where criminals in our government have staged terror before.
02:53:16.000Yeah, yeah, I mean, as time goes on, as these documents reach the time where they're allowed to be released, I think it'll become more and more apparent to people, you know, how the intelligence agencies work behind the scenes.
02:53:32.000I'm excited about Ron Paul, just because, you know, He is the only Republican candidate who is against the war.
02:53:40.000And I think that attitude coincides greatly with the general feeling of the American public.
02:53:46.000And he's also, for drug decriminalization, he's a medical doctor.
02:54:24.000You know, back in 1989 when the wall came down and the Soviet Union Broke up.
02:54:31.000We were supposed to realize a peace dividend.
02:54:33.000You know, we had been through a Cold War for generations.
02:54:36.000You know, we had had, you know, Korea, Vietnam.
02:54:39.000We were supposed to experience a peace dividend, and that hasn't happened.
02:54:44.000As a matter of fact, the exact opposite has happened.
02:54:46.000You know, we have Donald Rumsfeld talking about the long war.
02:54:50.000Hundred-year war is a new Britain, man.
02:54:52.000Yeah, Richard Cheney saying that, you know, the war that will not end in our lifetimes.
02:54:58.000So this is just, our foreign policy is going the exact opposite direction of what I think everybody expected it to go in back decades ago when the Soviet Union dissipated.
02:55:10.000So it's just very disappointing for me to continue to see $450 billion spent every year on the defense budget when so many other things in the United States are crying out for funding.
02:55:24.000You're absolutely right, but they use it as the organizing force to scare us into submission.
02:55:30.000They use that tribal instinct to manipulate us against these manufactured boogeymen.
02:55:35.000Well, you've made a big splash for 9-11 Truth and Mark Statnosky two-time NFL Super Bowl champion, five-time pro bowler, with the team I grew up cheering, the Dallas Cowboys.
02:55:47.000We salute you for your courage and I look forward to having you back on to talk about normal and drug decriminalization in the near future.
02:55:55.000I salute you in the true spirit of America and the great tradition of liberty.
02:56:01.000Thank you for your bold stance and your eloquent defense of liberty.