Alex Jones is joined by former Vice President Steve Quayle to discuss the dangers of Big Brother and the New World Order. Alex also discusses the growing number of Dutch citizens who are waking up to the reality that Big Brother is not going away.
00:00:13.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000We are now already into hour number three in this worldwide Friday transmission.
00:00:32.000The 60 The 16th day of November, 2007.
00:00:38.000We've got, as he did last Friday, Steve Quayle joining us coming up in the next segment.
00:00:45.000We'll have open phones continually through the interview and a ton of news I haven't gotten to yet.
00:00:49.000John in Amsterdam was talking about, even if you love Big Brother, please continue.
00:00:54.000Yes, even if you are pro-Big Brother or pro-New World Order, you have to realize that in the future they can create illegal laws that they do already, and they make you a criminal even that you're not knowing about it.
00:01:05.000So let's say that you're doing everything as well as nothing to hide.
00:01:09.000You know this mantra that people use as an argument?
00:01:14.000But if people really think that they love Big Brother, it's okay, it's for our protection, I think it's for protecting the elite for the future, because if we are going to rebel and being angry about and upset, they want to have Big Brother to protect them, it's not to protect us.
00:01:30.000But yes, they can change the laws in the future and make criminals, so-called criminals... Who controls the criminals in government?
00:03:00.000We'll take more calls when we get back with Steve Quayle.
00:03:02.000Last night I was on CFRB, Big Toronto Station, going across Eastern Canada.
00:03:08.000I've been on there two or three times before, and they took about ten calls while I was on, and I think seven of the ten said, oh, we like you, Alex, and we like the work you do, and we know about the New Old Order, but shouldn't we get rid of 80%?
00:03:36.000Are you gonna look at these African children, these Latin American children, the children here, uh, being implanted with the viruses, being poisoned, all the death, all the sterilization?
00:03:45.000Are you gonna, I mean, are you gonna go do it?
00:03:47.000You gonna go put a .45 in a little black kid's head and blow it off?
00:03:50.000I mean, if there's so many of us, I don't want you to commit suicide, but before you say kill somebody else, I suggest you go find I mean, before you go kill children or call for global extermination, if it's so bad, I suggest you find a tall building and make sure nobody's beneath you and throw yourself off.
00:04:05.000Now I'm not, that's a figure of speech, I don't mean that, but that's, that's the comparison here.
00:04:10.000I mean, uh, you know, nobody's stopping you from that big ol' bottle of sleeping pills you got, uh, uh, in the cabinet there.
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00:08:46.000I used to hear Steve 10 years ago talking about global eugenics and extermination plans and all.
00:08:54.000I thought he meant well, but I didn't think it was that bad.
00:08:56.000And now, so much of the books he wrote, the things he talked about, really are true.
00:08:59.000It's another visionary who we enjoy having here on the show with us.
00:09:03.000Steve, I don't know if you heard me earlier, right at the end of the last segment, but last time I was on CFRB Big Station, in one of the oldest stations in Canada, by the way, out of Toronto, 50,000 Water, and they were getting calls from all over eastern Canada.
00:09:18.000And they took about ten calls, and I think I was counting them, I think more than seven, but almost every caller said, oh, I agree with you about the New World Order, and I like you, and I've seen your videos, but we do need to kill 80% of people, and, you know, we do need to reduce the population.
00:09:33.000And the public, this is like, quote, common sense to people.
00:09:38.000And when Dr. Pianca gives a speech to the Texas Academy of Scientists and says we need 90% to be killed sooner rather than later, as fast as possible, he gets a standing ovation.
00:09:49.000The news is, not that he said it, the news is he got the standing ovation.
00:09:52.000I mean, can you just Talk about where these ideas came from, where they're pushing, why they love death, and then try to explain to the people that have bought into this elite mindset, they're not part of the elite.
00:10:04.000They're going to be killed or be diseased or be implanted with the cancer or the poisons themselves.
00:10:11.000And even if they were members of the elite, or those that would be spared in this ongoing project that's intensifying, they need to look into the eyes of these children and women and men that are dying, and they need to humanize that.
00:10:24.000Well, Alex, first of all, you've nailed it so many of your broadcasts.
00:10:29.000It's about population reduction, and I'm appalled.
00:10:32.000Now, what I would say is that, with due respect to the Canadian listeners, they have bought the lie.
00:10:38.000When you disassociate the uniqueness of man's creation from the Creator God, when you take the literal special place in the universe that God himself chose to put his image and likeness, he chose to put it into human beings that he created in the image and likeness of God, then it automatically becomes evident, Alex, that there is a war going on between he who died to redeem that there is a war going on between he who died to redeem mankind and those who seek
00:11:08.000When we deal with eugenics, when we deal with every form of genetic manipulation, what you've got is you ultimately get the starting point that they, the Luciferians, the Elitists, want to absolutely destroy all memory of the living God.
00:11:24.000They want to take, obviously, the Bible out.
00:11:26.000They want to recreate the The children that are being born in their new world globe speak and their new world idolatry.
00:11:35.000So when you dehumanize and, if you will, deculturize any of the roots of America's founding and those who honored us, that gave us a system, listen, they acknowledge God.
00:11:47.000All you have to read is Peter Marshall's book, The Light and the Glory, and most people, I think, Alex, have forgotten that.
00:11:52.000But going to the basis of your question, It's a war between God and the Devil, and the Luciferians openly worship Lucifer, openly sacrifice to Lucifer, and they're using all of their, what I call, I coined a word a number of years ago, almost a decade ago, called technecadence, okay?
00:12:12.000That technecadence to absolutely Go after and destroy the last vestiges of every human being.
00:12:19.000By the way, a top transhumanist that's in Endgame talks about, we are suicidal nihilists, we love death.
00:12:26.000It's the ultimate expression of power for us to destroy the whole planet.
00:12:30.000And he says we're lusting after just killing.
00:12:33.000And I guess it is the final phase of decadence.
00:12:37.000We saw it with Roman emperors and others.
00:12:41.000You know, it's a mental sickness, a spiritual sickness, but for listeners who are secular, listeners who are atheists that are listening, even if you don't believe in God, and Steve and I don't believe, we know, and even if you don't believe in good and evil, you know, you don't believe in the devil, but the devil believes in you, the thing I want to point out to people and get your take on here is that just take Dr. Piyanka.
00:13:03.000I was on his own website, YouTube, biology department, Uh, and I was, he's one of the top biologists there, I was reading it, and he says, it's him dressed up as a druid, priest, and he, he, he talks about Lucifer, and he says, and I also, he has his buffalo bull named Lucifer, and it's all this weird occult stuff on there.
00:13:23.000And every time you look into a Peter Singer, every time you look into a Prince Philip, a Ted Turner, every time a Maury Strong, every, not, not part of the time, not 80% of the time, not 90%, they're always pushing agnostic atheism, humanism, but when you actually look at them and the UN Chapel and the rest of it, they are, and I know I'm preaching to the choir where you are telling the preacher...
00:13:50.000I mean, every time you turn a rock over...
00:13:52.000I mean, 12 years ago when I got on air, I never talked about this stuff, but every time you finally get to the last door, you open it up, you turn the last rock over, and it's Luciferian.
00:14:11.000The bottom line is, men have a spiritual nature to them.
00:14:15.000They're either going to manifest that nature and acknowledging the God of Heaven, or they're going to worship Lucifer.
00:14:20.000And isn't it fascinating that even when you look at the opponents of Christianity, like the gentleman that you're talking about, who's a Druidic priest.
00:14:34.000They obviously practice human sacrifice, so when someone's willing to slay a child, and Alex, if you and I or the listeners could even get a glimpse from the God's viewpoint of all the blood that's shed in their sacrifices, then they can understand that the people, even who don't believe in God, aren't By the way, we've seen all these weird Clinton and Bush cryptic speeches after a war, and Bush will get a creamy-eyed look and talk about dark forces of evil.
00:15:02.000That Pentagon speech is some road to tyranny.
00:15:04.000Dark forces of evil that feed on human suffering, and he literally begins to almost glow like a little green demon.
00:15:10.000And then, you know, he talks about the great sacrifice and starts licking his lips.
00:15:16.000Absolutely, and you know, let me just share this.
00:15:19.000Multi-starred active duty generals have talked at length and spoken at length about what goes on in the secret labyrinths below notable, very, very prominent architectural places around the world.
00:15:48.000Because, well, have you noticed, Alex, that while everything is a total war against Christians, man, if you are anything other than a Christian, it's Katy, bar the door, welcome to the world of global religion.
00:16:00.000And see, we're being set up for the Antichrist.
00:16:03.000Obviously, the Bible teaches that the Antichrist is going to make war on the saints.
00:16:08.000And when you see, you have just defined something that I think very few people can even realize.
00:16:13.000When they're talking about sacrifice, let me tell you what a top Luciferian told me.
00:16:21.000He says, when we talk about God, Steve, We talk about Lucifer.
00:16:26.000He said, when you see the politicians, and he named them all off, and they're the ones everybody sees on their television, he says, when they talk about God, or the Lord, they're not talking about God and Jesus.
00:16:37.000Now, as a good example of that, remember Alex Bush, in his first term, he used to talk about Jesus, and something happened.
00:16:45.000And everything else became more irrelevant, whether he was going into a Shinto shrine in Japan, whether he's going into a mosque, whether he's going in any place.
00:16:55.000We have basically people in this country that are confused because the pastors and the pulpits, as you and I have talked about, have not sounded a clearer sound.
00:17:05.000And the problem is now, is everything is acceptable except Jesus.
00:17:09.000And this is the war that not only is taking place in heaven, that's on earth.
00:17:13.000And when you devalue human life, What's the difference?
00:17:16.000These people are so demonically driven that they literally salivate over the great sacrifice that's coming.
00:17:25.000What most people don't understand, the warnings that you were giving, the warning that you gave last night on my radio program about you're at a nine level, they don't look at this as just, quote, a preparation for war.
00:17:35.000They look at this as the sacrifice to Lucifer that brings him literally on the planet to rule.
00:17:41.000And they believe that with the absence of all Christians and any relationship to the God of the Bible, His mandate, His laws, or His precepts, that they will have basically a technological bliss in which they'll live forever, download their memories, they'll never die, they'll never have to face the judgment, and boy, from there on out, people should really start to realize that all transhumanists, all of them that are talking about spiritual machines,
00:18:06.000Listen, we've been experiencing through science fiction, we've been prepped through all the years of whether it was starting out, you know... Well, what does Revelation talk about that they bring into the temple is that it's a living machine that does wonders.
00:18:20.000Actually, it's a... and this is something that I think everyone should realize that on my website, and I know on your website too, but on my website Prime Featured, Stories about robotics.
00:18:31.000Right now the big deal is, and you probably are aware of this, but they're now talking about creating robots that are so lifelike that what will be the legal standing of the robot, especially if she's female and you're a male and you're having sex with it?
00:18:54.000Well even mainstream news is talking about how they're already cloning humans and cloning other primates and they're keeping it somewhat, but they say that now they're going to clone literal replicants for people and claim it's a machine because man made it, but really it's just a human.
00:19:09.000Well, right, and you know, this is something that I think that most people... By the way, will those clones, those aren't going to have souls, are they?
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00:24:53.000Steve, I want to come back and take calls in the next longer segment and talk more about them saying the American people are terrorists and they're against the war, 9-11 truth, and your take on them shifting gears into this, but I mean, I remember reading the United Nations Biological Diversity Assessment, it's actually the end road to tyranny, and this is an official UN government-sponsored document.
00:25:16.000And they say in there, oh, we need to bring back human sacrifice and wars to reduce population.
00:25:25.000They don't even hide their religion, but then we're not supposed to talk about the fact that they're religious.
00:25:31.000Like, they tell us religion doesn't exist, and that our beliefs don't exist, and that we're bad, but then they're so upset about us and no other group.
00:25:39.000But then they're totally, totally religious.
00:25:45.000Well, absolutely, and it's kind of like Dylan's song, you gotta serve somebody, okay?
00:25:50.000And see, the deal is, Alex, is that this is what I think people have got to understand, the war.
00:25:55.000Now, I want to talk about what Glenn Beck did.
00:26:07.000He goes on and talks about the Constitution, and then he absolutely does probably one of the most provocative things that's ever been done.
00:26:15.000Look, if this would have been done by somebody on the left, we would have been screaming, and we're screaming now.
00:26:20.000But for what he has done, he is vilifying people, so that means now it's okay to basically dismiss, quote, the Ron Paul supporters, I don't think it's going to go this way, but this is what he's saying, and then ultimately destroy them.
00:26:33.000And if people argue with my little formula, identify, vilify, nullify, destroy, he did say, Alex, as you are aware, it's on your website.
00:26:42.000military may be called out to have to do something about these people.
00:26:46.000That infuriates me, that he's calling for the death of people that are standing up for the Constitution, that believe in this country, and how dare he?
00:27:12.000They believe that Gaia is Mother Earth, and that she is a goddess.
00:27:16.000The goddess Gaia must be appeased, and the only way you appease the goddess is with human sacrifice.
00:27:21.000Well, I noticed this, and then I looked into it.
00:27:23.000I kept noticing in England, or D.C., or Austin, everywhere they have war memorials, they put a big goddess up on a capitol or on a pedestal looking down, and then I went and looked it up, and sure enough, that's a sacrifice to the goddess, putting the war-dead monument in front of her.
00:27:38.000Absolutely, and goddess worship is coming back big time.
00:27:41.000And ladies and gentlemen, you're seeing now, and look Alex, just take it like you said earlier.
00:27:47.000You can take it out of the religious realm, but these people are dead set.
00:27:50.000They have their ceremonies, they have their books they read, you know, the Book of the Dead.
00:27:55.000God in his infinite mercy gives us the Book of Life.
00:27:58.000They, and seriously I'm not kidding you, they get the Book of Dead.
00:28:01.000The point that I think that people have got to understand, this is a war.
00:28:04.000And if everybody, I know that you linked to it on your website, I was just on your website, the CNN, everyone should send CNN their comments on how incredibly, I don't even know the word, terrorizing the statements that Glenn Beck has said.
00:28:20.000Well they're openly following White House memos, they're all doing it now in unison, saying they want to turn the huge apparatus they've built to fight foreign terrorists against the American people And they even start talking bad about, oh, Americans have this history of rebelling, oh, the Founding Fathers, it's bad!
00:28:37.000And he's actually got a Brit on there talking about how they actually badmouth the Founding Fathers and mix them in with Al-Qaeda.
00:28:47.000I mean, how arrogant are they, Steve, to think that they can sell this to people?
00:28:50.000Well, they're not only arrogant, in my opinion, they're demon-possessed, okay?
00:28:54.000And when I say possessed, I want to make this clear.
00:28:56.000That's not a liberty or a metaphor I'm taking with the English language.
00:29:00.000There are other entities controlling their speech, their thoughts, and their deeds.
00:29:05.000But isn't it amazing that these entities that, remember this, the Antichrist is going to make war by supposedly being a man of peace, okay?
00:29:14.000And isn't that what we're seeing right now, you know?
00:29:17.000This quote, isn't it fascinating that as supposedly the peace movement's out there, more people are dying, more men, more women, more children, and I gotta tell you, Alex, I have been told by high-ranking military officials that the guys that are controlling everything are into Luciferian worship.
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00:35:46.000I want to start having him on more often.
00:35:49.000And we've got Luke Rudowsky waiting in the wings.
00:35:51.000They confronted, this video's up on prisonplanet.com, Larry Silverstein, the owner, who said that they gave the order to pull the building down.
00:35:57.000We have firefighters and police and emergency workers.
00:35:59.000We've interviewed not just the video of them that day, saying, get back, they're going to blow the building up, get back, they're going to blow the building up.
00:36:07.000Some of those are in loose change, final cut that just came out.
00:36:11.000Shifting gears into government-sponsored terror in 9-11, having BBC report 25 minutes before it fell exactly how it would fall with the exact official story shows false start scripting, and now with the vast majority of Americans in major polls believing it's an inside job, and with the credibility of the establishment imploding, and now they're desperately saying we're all terrorists because we don't believe them anymore, where do you see all this going, Steve?
00:36:39.000Well, again, I see a very, very dangerous future, and I'm talking in the next year.
00:37:05.000Others have all the wonderful websites out there that are trying to tell people the real news.
00:37:10.000But the bottom line is I think that the Luciferians are going to make their move really quick.
00:37:14.000Now the question is do they do it through a financial collapse first?
00:37:17.000Do they do it through a I've got to tell you, Alex, there are men that live in your area, a lot of retired special operations people and stuff that know what's going on, but you know what?
00:37:30.000The people in this country have got to wake up and vote the scum out, and I can tell you, I think that quite candidly, as I said last night, that Ron Paul is a mirror to what this country used to be.
00:37:42.000And for anybody that calls, someone who believes in the Constitution of Terrorists, then those same people will be there.
00:37:49.000They'll call for your execution, you see?
00:37:51.000And that's what I don't think people understand.
00:38:10.000I've been told by too many people for too many years, having absolutely hundreds and hundreds of contacts all around the world, the only way I can validate or verify is the same way you do it, Alex.
00:38:20.000You've got to get two or three witnesses unknown to each other that tell you the same thing.
00:38:24.000And if you see it happening, and it's coming down, then you've got to sound the alarm.
00:38:27.000Now, what people are doing with the alarm, I've got to be honest with you, frustrates me immensely because there should be at least 20 or 30 million people up in arms over Glenn Beck's statement.
00:38:38.000There should have been that many up in arms over saying, Well, I agree.
00:38:41.000Steve Watson is doing a big report that really boils it all down.
00:38:44.000Paul's done an excellent report on it.
00:38:46.000We need to email these out to everybody now.
00:38:48.000We have the links up on prisonplanet.com and truthnews.us.
00:38:52.000Kurt Nemo's done some good stories on this.
00:38:54.000We need to let people know they're now saying the American people Anti-war, libertarians, Ron Paul supporters are working with Al-Qaeda, that the military needs to be used against us.
00:39:04.000I'm glad you're freaking out over this because that's a normal response.
00:39:07.000I'm about to go to Luke Radowsky here for a quick report on confronting Larry Silverstein, but here's an example.
00:39:53.000And it turned out, you know, one of the owners of this big firm was a big fan, and this lady was a big fan, and these lawyers, they're all coming in and telling me, they're going, man, we used to think you were nuts, but they said, they said, we can't tell you who our clients are, but billionaires are moving to the Cook Islands, they're moving to New Zealand, they believe, and this is their words, the U.S.
00:40:13.000will not exist by the middle of next year.
00:40:16.000I haven't told that story yet, and they're all scared, the lawyers are freaked out, I mean, Mike, what are they planning?
00:40:23.000Well, they're planning, and I want to say this, they're planning a sacrifice.
00:40:28.000Can I tell you what an active duty four-star general told me?
00:40:31.000He specifically said, Steve, they are planning to take out 200 million Americans.
00:40:40.000A friend of mine, Alex, a totally different realm of the service, Admiral, same story told.
00:40:47.000The bottom line is that, the only way to do that, by the way, you can't do it effectively with nuclear weapons, you can add, but the best way they're going to do it This is the stuff I've been screaming about genetically altered viruses that have become cocktails where you're combining Ebola and you're combining smallpox, Ebola pox or variations and then you electromagnetically supercharge them and obviously if they're worried about electromagnetic fields attacking the human immune system Well, I better not say that word.
00:41:16.000Well, if you do, you know, subject these lethal pathogens to a certain pulsed frequency, I mean, it's just like, it's just like, Alex, all they gotta do is just add something to the spray they've already attacked us with for all these years.
00:41:32.000Is that the chemtrail thing is still so poo-pooed, yet, as you said, you said it yesterday, all the cancers, all the respiratory diseases, all the early deaths, all the senility, all the Parkinson's, everything that's gone on, and man, if you just look at that chart, it starts at the same time the spring starts.
00:41:50.000And, you know, the bottom line is, I've had them laugh at me.
00:41:52.000I've actually had conversations with the devils that are doing this, and they've said, you know, go ahead, quail.
00:42:58.000Yeah, we all do what we can, and Silverstein had it coming for quite a while, and it actually came at an awkward moment because we really weren't prepared for having Silverstein there.
00:43:09.000We never knew he was even going to be there talking.
00:43:11.000It was just a public event, and he just showed up right in front of his building, and we had great guys like Alex and Brian, you know, seize the opportunity and take advantage of his talk.
00:43:22.000And as you can see in the video, he's going to give a long talk, and as soon as he heard You know, I was questioning him about 9-11.
00:43:28.000He looked at us, and then he said, okay, I gotta go, and bye.
00:43:31.000And he just left, and he ran away, and he knew what we were about.
00:43:38.000Well, you're literally, you guys are 10 feet from him and one of the fellows got right in his face with a sign, that's not too clear on the video, but they talk about it on the video.
00:43:47.000I mean, he looks like a deer in the headlights.
00:43:48.000Last weekend, Sean Hannity got confronted by some of our listeners.
00:43:52.000They did a fabulous job and he was laughing at them until they said InfoWars.com and then he looked scared.
00:43:57.000Why do you think they're so scared, Luke?
00:44:23.000I mean, it's just amazing what everybody's doing.
00:44:26.000And we're just seizing the opportunity and making the best out of it.
00:44:29.000WeAreChange.org raised over $11,000, gave it directly to first responder groups, the Feel Good Foundation and others.
00:44:37.000And again, Luke, I just commend you and WeAreChange New York, a great example to everybody.
00:44:42.000Steve Quayle, how important is it that young people and others across the nation are confronting these evildoers, these New World Order people everywhere, and why do they, when we even confront them politely, why do they look so scared?
00:44:55.000Because, basically, they know the threats that hang over their heads.
00:45:00.000Listen, they're either bought off or threatened off, Alex.
00:45:03.000And I've got to commend the young people.
00:45:12.000So, obviously, anybody younger than that is young to me.
00:45:15.000But the point is that they are absolutely terrified.
00:45:19.000Because, see, everything you've said, they're programmed.
00:45:22.000Ladies and gentlemen, the word television programming It doesn't exist because for entertainment, it's the program.
00:45:29.000And the thing that I think people are recognizing now, especially young people, I know 17, 18, 19-year-old kids that get it, and I know basically PhDs that don't.
00:45:39.000So, you know, I think, Alex, what's wonderful is young people are grabbing their future, okay?
00:45:44.000Rather than let these bunch of devils destroy everything.
00:45:48.000They're starting to rise up, and I salute those that do that, because again, Silverstein, whether he sees the deer in the headlights, or Sean Hannity, or any of these guys, look, do you really think Glenn Beck's going to give up his $50 million a year contract, or $50 million over three year contract?
00:46:22.000Who they don't kill immediately, they will launch the biggest character assassination ever.
00:46:27.000And the bottom line is, Alex, these young people, and again, You know, I'm just so amazed in a great way that they're taking up that cause because, see, this is the thing you and I talked about last night.
00:46:39.000The Luciferians, we call them Lucys, cannot stand the truth because everything that they base their entire existence on is based on a lie.
00:47:44.000Hello Alex, I'm here from New York and there's a couple of things I wanted to say.
00:47:48.000I'm very angry at this thing with the Liberty Pit there, you know, and Beck, you know, the whole McGillicold ties in anyway.
00:47:56.000But my problem here is I'm listening to this and I've been following this for 30 years and I'm saying to myself, you know, Yes, we're making progress.
00:48:05.000But, you know, I think it's Solzhenitsyn.
00:48:18.000I know what you say, you know, and part of me agrees with that.
00:48:22.000Now, I'm not saying I have any smart, right answers, but I think there's a point where you wait too long and that's it.
00:48:28.000You know, you can buy all the, with the way they invade your computers, your phones, your this, your that, you buy all the gold you want, and then they just come to your house like gangsters and take it from you.
00:48:37.000You know, so what are you going to do?
00:48:38.000Well, look, none of us are, I mean, we get on the road every day and we get run over and die.
00:48:42.000It doesn't mean we're 100% going to win the fight.
00:48:51.000We're trying to position ourselves to be independent, Steve.
00:48:54.000Well, first of all, the bottom line is that, you know, we've got to do what we can to protect our families and protect our brethren.
00:49:02.000And I mean brethren, the people that you care about, Alex, that I care about, our listeners, our supporters for all these years, you know, those are the people that I feel absolutely motivated to do everything I can to help in any way, shape, But I think the bottom line is that I don't think people understand what I said.
00:49:20.000These guys, I used to believe you could turn around.
00:49:25.000I believe what we're doing is we're buying people time.
00:49:28.000I believe just like the good when I say, and there are wonderful, wonderful military people that are fighting to keep the Luciferians who control other aspects of the military at bay.
00:49:39.000But there comes a point when you cannot fight the judgment of God.
00:49:43.000And this is one thing that I think is lacking in most discussions.
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00:54:19.000I want your key analysis in the first hour of this whole police state move declaring basically 80 plus percent of America terrorists and saying the military should be used against us.
00:55:09.000Well, I mean, a 72-hour kit's ridiculous.
00:55:12.000I'm telling people they better prepare for the duration.
00:55:14.000My definition of the duration is absolutely the worst-case scenario for a minimum of one year.
00:55:20.000I can tell you the powers that be believe that they'll starve everyone in the United States into submission in under six months, especially when they cut the power.
00:55:29.000By the way, the IMF documents that Stiklis brought out, they call it the IMF riot, it's at the end of my book, this is mainstream news, where they do, in Argentina and other places, once they crash an economy, they turn the power and water off to cause total cratering.
00:55:46.000So, you know, when I hear this from All of the powers that, and I say powerful men who still love this country, you know, they call me and I'm sure they do the same thing to you, and they say, warn the people, warn the people, warn the people.
00:56:00.000These are people that have children, these are people that have grandchildren, and they're scared to death.
00:56:03.000Now when I go back on something else, Alex, because of the business I'm in and how long I've been in it, and I know a lot of people around the world, I can tell you unequivocally that the billionaires and the guys with the hundreds of millions are fleeing right now.
00:56:26.000That bumper music you just played, The Fools on the Hill, that's the only song the Beatles ever wrote about Congress.
00:56:36.000I wish you would get in touch with Tex Mars and do a show on the Noahide Laws, because I think that's where all these execution laws are leading to.
00:56:52.000I mean, under the Noahide laws, as the caller has identified, anybody who confesses Jesus as Lord is a heretic and they intend to cut their heads off.
00:57:05.000Madeleine Albright, a while ago, Her father was the head of the Communist Party in Czechoslovakia, and they had to get out because the people were catching on to them.
00:57:14.000So she just shows up here as our Secretary of State.
00:57:42.000Not only do we need to know what these Luciferians think, I am a born-again Christian, I'm a believer in Christ, but these Christians today, I'll give you for instance, Hosea 8.4 says, they have set up kings, but not by me.
00:57:55.000They have made princes, and I knew it not.
00:57:57.000Now that flies right in the face of Romans 13, but yet none of the Christian brothers that I know will even get into that verse.
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00:59:18.000...financed a $4,300 scientific phone poll, which, again, leans against Ron Paul.
00:59:25.000But I said, I'm gonna finance the mainline, old-fashioned poll, ask fair questions.
00:59:30.000Ron Paul won by double-digit leads across the board, except with very conservative voters, and he's still, you know, in some cases 20-22% with the second place, first place being 30-31% Giuliani.
00:59:46.000Because, again, these aren't really Christian conservative voters.
00:59:48.000They love Mr. Abortion and the rest of it, but I guess Pat Robertson said he worships him, so, you know, that's good enough for them.
00:59:54.000But the illustration here is we went and paid for a fair poll, and when they issue the results, they say at the last paragraph, by the way, Ron Paul won the whole major poll, but in one little demographic, he came in the last place.
01:00:06.000And then that's your news, and that's what the media and the news will run with.
01:00:19.000We've already demonstrated that these issues, the so-called message, resonates with these people.
01:00:25.000If we can overcome the name recognition issue, Ron Paul wins in a landslide.
01:00:29.000He's conservative, even amongst the most hardcore conservative and very conservative sub-demographics, which Do not match up against the religious question and the GOP in this race.
01:00:41.000We have these people backing Giuliani, but the other leaders are not necessarily willing to go along with this.
01:00:48.000They've decided to split that vote and let people go where they're going to go, and they have decided against going with Giuliani because he has no integrity on social issues.
01:00:56.000And then go for those religious demographics, for people that haven't heard them.
01:00:59.000I mean, he won every religious group, even non-Christian.
01:01:04.000And by the time they're done, they tell you Giuliani's the winner.
01:01:08.000Yeah, so let's take a look at these religious questions.
01:01:10.000They divide it into Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, and Other, which is all-inclusive and not necessarily a voting plot.
01:01:18.000Then Born Again and Protestant, Protestants half.
01:01:21.000Yeah, they split the Protestant, which is 50% of the vote, between Born Again and Not Born Again, which, you know, the definition of that's questionable, but splits right into an exact 25% and 25.2%.
01:01:33.000So Ron Paul has 30.4% of the Catholic vote, well ahead of the Catholic Julianne in 18.4%.
01:01:37.000He has the Protestant vote, 33% of that huge 50% voting bloc.
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01:07:28.000I know these are marked, the ones you've got.
01:07:30.000But scan in your marked ones so people can focus in on the data, too, later.
01:07:36.000We are talking about the fact that there is massive spin going on in the media against Ron Paul, evidenced by, we pay for his Ivy poll, we make it fair, we publish the actual poll, you know, the questions that were asked.
01:07:52.000The people who were run through this huge gauntlet of questions answered all the questions and Ron Paul won.
01:07:57.000Women, blacks, Hispanics, whites, Christian, conservatives, born again, Protestant, Catholic, just on and on and on.
01:08:05.000Just unbelievable win after win after win and Zogby decides to write a headline focused in on the one area where Giuliani won.
01:08:13.000Uh, one little demographic of the poll.
01:08:17.000Uh, but at the end, they say, oh yeah, by the way, Ron Paul won the general poll across the board.
01:08:41.000Women, some have suggested Ron Paul doesn't have the support of women, but in this National Scientific Poll, he has 34.7% of women as compared with 30.8% of male.
01:08:53.000It's close, but he has more percentage support from women, and more were polled as well, which I don't know if that means more women gravitate to the polls.
01:09:17.000No, instead they're just saying first the poll didn't exist, and then Zogby was forced to put out an early report and says, Ah, Giuliani, hail him!
01:09:24.000But that's why these elections continue to be controlled.
01:09:55.000The religious leaders have said they're going to stay home on Election Day if Giuliani's the nominee, or they'll run third party, which will always split in favor of the larger party, the Democrats.
01:10:29.000Okay, so we do this poll, show the issues.
01:10:32.000Ron Paul wins in every demographic but conservatives.
01:10:36.000And again, but then when they ask conservatives, there's a disparency here because then they ask the same conservatives who are religious and they go for Ron Paul.
01:10:43.000This is the point Ron Paul's been making the whole election cycle.
01:10:46.000All the moderates have abandoned the party over the war issue and now the last vestige of GOP strength, the large religious bloc, is splitting or staying home.
01:11:32.000Only Ron Paul can beat Hillary or any other Democrat and this proves it.
01:11:37.000A. If you're a conservative or a libertarian or a liberal who doesn't want the war and doesn't like Hillary, then you better vote for Ron Paul.
01:11:43.000The other Republicans are all in line.
01:12:02.000Ron Paul wins amongst every religious demographic except Jews, and they're 44% undecided, and he came in a close second place against Giuliani on that subject.
01:12:35.000So we've got that happening, and then we have...
01:12:39.000Ron Paul winning with conservatives nationwide when they ask him about his bio separate from name.
01:12:47.000Okay, so there's also showing the schizophrenia of these so-called conservatives that when it's Giuliani's name they win, but when it... Folks, this is incredible.
01:12:57.000If the mainstream media gave Ron Paul the name recognition coverage that it gives to the other main candidates, he would be a landslide winner.
01:13:08.000And now it's up to you, ladies and gentlemen.
01:13:10.000I went and spent $4,300 of my meager savings to do this, because I knew, I had a gut instinct, and frankly, my instinct's never been wrong.
01:13:20.000I knew that if I did a scientific poll that was fair, and I knew they'd spend it, it actually leans towards the other guys, because I'd read the other polls.
01:13:29.000Again, they're asking about Mitt Romney, about Giuliani, about other people.
01:13:32.000Paul Watson, you need to integrate this, too.
01:13:34.000I know I'm flogging the horses here, but this is a key fight.
01:13:41.000And if somebody said Mitt Romney or Giuliani or something else, they would just ask a few reasonable questions and then that would be sampled.
01:13:49.000But if you said Ron Paul in that Zogby poll that was reported and the poll was released, They would then ask about sexual positions and how you cook rice.
01:13:57.000And a bunch of other questions that are designed to make you think it's stupid or intrusive and hang the phone up.
01:14:01.000Then Ron Paul's taken out of the sample.
01:14:38.000So it's up to you to get the poll results and all the articles we're writing, Kurt Nemo, Steve Watson, Paul Watson, Aaron, and to get them out to the four wins.
01:14:47.000Yeah, the final point I would make is that Ron Paul is the only true candidate in this election, and our listeners know it.
01:14:54.000The people in this country are tired of being used, they're not going to be force-fed, these candidates, especially Giuliani, on the GOP scope, and that now includes religious right.
01:15:03.000They didn't wake up for six years, they're now awake, they're tired of being used.
01:15:10.000And so, in the final summation, what should people do, Aaron?
01:15:14.000We had to get Ron Paul's name recognition out there, you know, to the key states.
01:15:19.000He's doubled his numbers in New Hampshire and Nevada, and so that's happening right now.
01:15:47.000I mean, this is like going into the horse stalls before a race and there's ten horses and nine of them have broken legs and snot running out their noses and flies all over them and can hardly walk.
01:15:56.000And there's this huge, you know, giant black stallion with, you know, streamlined muscles just snorting.
01:16:41.000They got talking points to say, Ron Paul, supporters are terrorists, liberals are terrorists, anti-war are terrorists, beat them, kill them, taser them, attack them, ban them, get them, stop them, they're treasonous, they've got to be grabbed.
01:17:37.000During a discussion about the Cub Pink member heckling Hillary Clinton at a recent event, Fox News host Brian Kilmeade said that people who confront politicians are threatening, see speech is threatening, and should be tased or quote beaten to a pulp as the establishment media continues to sell the idea that anyone who disagrees with authority should be brutally punished.
01:17:57.000A segment on the Fox and Friends Morning Show yesterday turned into an opportunity for Kilmeade to share his dictatorial fetish that dissenters be dealt with in a proper manner, as footage aired on Clinton's Heckler began removed from the event by security.
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01:23:11.000If that was not good enough for the Nazis to torture their political foes, then it's good enough for us.
01:23:15.000As Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz made clear in the Wall Street Journal last week, there are some, this is a quote, there are some who claim that torture is a nonsense because it never works.
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01:25:08.000were you invited to speak here this afternoon?
01:25:15.000anyway as I was saying we need to elect more democrats Because our obstacle to getting anything through the Congress is the filibuster rule in the Senate.
01:25:35.000She should just have stopped talking, because nobody's listening at this point.
01:25:38.000They're all watching as that particular, that man surrounds this guy.
01:25:48.000It is not, however, clear if arrested.
01:25:50.000What I find interesting about the Code Pink people is, for instance, at these Senate and House committee hearings when somebody's going to talk in front of a group of people, and the people who are wearing the shirts that say Code Pink on them, You can pretty much count on them, at some point, standing up and acting.
01:26:10.000I mean, look at Connie Rice a couple of years ago.
01:26:17.000I mean, where do they get off doing this, and why do they think they're going to continue to be politely escorted out?
01:26:23.000At one point, with security so high and tensions on edge, don't you think they're going to get, at the very least, tased or beaten to a pulp by somebody who goes, these people look threatening.
01:27:01.000Um, the anti-war people are terrorists.
01:27:04.000And see, you just heard it, let's beat them to a pulp.
01:27:06.000Pretty soon, some, they're not gonna, do they just think they can continue to do this?
01:27:11.000They're gonna get tased and beaten to a pulp.
01:27:13.000It's an, A, it's a threat saying, you're gonna get beaten to a pulp, you're gonna get tased if you go do this, which is total Americana.
01:27:20.000You can't get any more American than people disrupting, getting in faces, standing up, speaking out.
01:27:25.000Now, they can be escorted, but they have all these town hall meetings that have come out that are fake for Democrats and Republicans, where they take your driver's license number and make you sign a form saying that you're for the President and aren't going to heckle.
01:27:44.000And then they have demonstrations of support when Bush comes into town and anyone with a No Blood for Oil sign or a shirt that says Peace is arrested.
01:27:52.000Unpermitted marches are allowed, but not if you're against the war, but we're 80% of the public!
01:27:58.000We're the majority, and Fox News gets up there that's supporting Hillary, by the way, and giving her money, and the big money and the big Republican donors are giving 2 to 1 to Hillary, big defense contractors are.
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01:33:41.000Now, our guest is Fritz Wenzel, and he is the head of communications at Zogby International, and he's also one of their chief analysts there, like statisticians or people that go through the poll like statisticians or people that go through the poll numbers, and we appreciate him coming on the broadcast today.
01:34:10.000Reading this Zogby Poll, Giuliani leads among Republicans in latest Blind Bio Survey, but in other polls you've done and others have done, here's one, Romney wins straw poll at Values Voter Summit.
01:34:24.000CNN thought it was enough to be in the next paragraph, I mean right in the front of the story, that Ron Paul got 15% or third place.
01:34:32.000Well among People that call themselves evangelicals, people that call themselves, well let me use a technical term, born again, or Protestant.
01:35:30.000and having raised $4.2 million in one day on the internet, And he is a force to be reckoned with now.
01:35:38.000I think that's why you've seen Romney's numbers stalled, and Thompson's numbers stalled, because he is taking a big bite out of that conservative wing, that conservative group of voters who are going to decide who the next Republican nominee is going to be.
01:35:55.000I have looked at his trend, and we've got the congressman on tomorrow, and I've interviewed him probably a hundred times over the years.
01:36:01.000He's saying that if their trajectory continues the next month and a half towards Nevada and, of course, New Hampshire and other places, that he could win.
01:36:09.000And your boss, Mr. Zogby, on Fox last week said that Ron Paul could win.
01:36:23.000We come to very much the same conclusion.
01:36:26.000Ron Paul is on a very positive trajectory, and what we see happening behind the scenes here is that you've got this pool, and everyone knows, who pays attention, that we have this group of Republicans who are just not satisfied with any of the frontrunners, and they're looking around, and you've got 16 or 17 percent undecided in most
01:36:54.000Can't we say that Ron Paul and GQ and a lot of others are saying that Ron Paul is now a first year candidate?
01:37:03.000Well, you can draw the tier lines anywhere you want, but he's certainly moving into the top tier if he isn't there already.
01:37:09.000I mean, he's long since passed John McCain, and I still hear people referring to McCain as a top-tier candidate.
01:37:18.000But I'm not the one to really make that call.
01:37:20.000Well, as more Republicans drop out, I think we're only going to see Paul's numbers go up.
01:37:25.000Well, look at the others who are left.
01:37:27.000You've got Brownback out now, but you've got Ken Credo, who is saying a lot of the same things that Ron Paul's talking about.
01:37:35.000You've got Duncan Hunter saying much the same things, particularly on immigration.
01:37:42.000Ron Paul is talking about so he does stand to gain now remember these guys are going to drop out probably Because they're only pulling you know 1% 2% support and they can't raise money to even have an office Well, yeah, there are too many there's just too many competitors for that That same conservative vote.
01:38:01.000Would you say Ron Paul has hit the zeitgeist?
01:38:04.000Because everywhere I go, talk radio everywhere, on the street, wherever I fly in the country, bumper stickers, signs, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, and it seems to be intensifying.
01:38:23.000I think you've got to see him move a little bit higher before you start using those terms.
01:38:29.000But here's why his timing is almost perfect.
01:38:34.000He's moving up, he's getting this media attention that you're talking about, but it's not so early that he's going to get a big backlash of negative attention before people actually have to start voting.
01:38:47.000Six weeks, eight weeks out before an election is about the time, if you're going to make a big move from the back to the front, that's when you want to make it.
01:39:06.000He's moving in the right direction at about the right time, so the poll numbers are indicating he's moving into the top tier.
01:39:15.000He's not quite there yet, I wouldn't say, but he's certainly moving in the right direction at a time when other candidates are not moving.
01:39:24.000We're talking to the head spokesman for Zogby International, Fritz Wenzel, and I really appreciate him coming on.
01:39:31.000The website is zogby.com, Z-O-G-B-Y.com.
01:39:36.000Fritz, I want to ask you a bunch of questions now as fast as possible, just short answers if you can't understand there really is no short answer to all of this.
01:39:42.000Not that I'm a polling scientist, but I read what all these scientists and experts say, and that clearly, and I think the questions you ask about some of the major websites that some of these people don't even use or rarely use, that phone polling does target a
01:39:59.000Predominantly less technological people who are older, people who get their news mainly from the old line dinosaur media, and then obviously the internet, and that's now the majority of people, skews towards Ron Paul.
01:40:13.000So we're sampling in a crowd that historically wouldn't know about Ron Paul.
01:40:22.000Can you talk about that, or are you denying that?
01:40:24.000No, I don't deny that at all, that there is that element, but that's only part of the story.
01:40:30.000The true story is we're still able to get a complete, full sample that is representative of the American adult and the American likely voter, and that includes all age groups.
01:40:43.000Now, is it harder today than it was five years ago?
01:40:47.000Will it be harder in five years than it is today?
01:40:50.000Yes, because... So you claim you're increasing it.
01:40:52.000I mean, I believe you're doing it, because I've seen the numbers, that you're trying to increase your sample to make it be more representative, but then how do you explain where you have IP computer polls, where it is one vote per computer, or you have text message voting, where it's one person, and they hear his message and, you know, in some cases he's winning by 80 percent, on average he's getting 35 percent, the next guy's getting 28,
01:41:14.000I mean, he's been winning every poll but one Fox poll, and then the old line polling industry says, oh no, you don't want to use one of them newfangled automobiles, stay with the horse and buggy.
01:41:24.000And I understand you guys are adapting, you do internet polls, I'm not saying that, but what I'm stating is, is that this claim, there's nothing scientific, I mean, there may be a higher level of error, let's say 10%.
01:41:34.000Still, Ron Paul keeps winning when it's the Internet, and they claimed it was people with spy bots out spamming.
01:41:41.000I mean, did these bots put a four point plus two million?
01:41:45.000Well, that's a good point, but we have been pulling on the Internet for nine years now.
01:41:52.000And what we've done over those years is we've been able to develop a methodology that very closely approximates what actual voters do in actual voting booths.
01:42:04.000And the proof in the pudding was last year when we pulled 19 U.S.
01:42:08.000Senate races, state-by-state races, using the Internet.
01:42:12.000We got every one of those 19 within the margin of error.
01:42:19.000So that said, You need to understand that the internet polling methodology has to closely identify and properly represent whatever voting universe you're going to be trying to poll.
01:42:34.000And I don't know what other internet polls are doing or saying about Ron Paul.
01:42:39.000I can tell you that ours is as accurate as anybody's because that's our experience.
01:42:45.000Why did Mr. Zobby say that Ron Paul could win New Hampshire?
01:43:02.000They're getting to know his positions.
01:43:04.000And he's doing all the right things right now.
01:43:07.000Talking to Fritz Wenzel, and he is the Director of Communications for Zobby International, one of their top analysts.
01:43:14.000I was talking to you off air, we were talking about, hey look, he's won the women, he's won the men, he's won the blacks, Hispanics, he's won all the religious groups, but Jews came in a healthy second there.
01:43:26.000My point is, I'm not saying that he would win with Democrats, but clearly he'll get a bigger piece of Democrats than these other Republicans that are very unpalatable to Democrats.
01:43:40.000I know all these liberal homes Out here where my office is have got Ron Paul signs in them.
01:44:14.000You've identified some of the reasons.
01:44:15.000He is anti-war, and the majority of Democrats are anti-war.
01:44:19.000He has some other ideas and policies and stances on issues that are more attractive to Democrats, particularly conservative Democrats.
01:44:29.000Even among independents, he's far and away a more attractive candidate, but you have to remember We're comparing Ron Paul with Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson.
01:44:39.000And when Democrats make that choice of those four candidates, Ron Paul is, far and away, the best possible option.
01:44:46.000And so, out of Republican horses in the race, Ron Paul would be the best horse to put up against Hillary?
01:44:55.000We don't know that because... You know that's a no-brainer?
01:45:16.000I mean, that's what I hear from the people, just talking to the public and going on hundreds of other shows myself, that a lot of Democrats say, fine, he's against abortion, fine, he's conservative.
01:45:35.000that people remember and admire the most.
01:45:37.000He just called it the way it was, the evil empire, etc., you know, tear down this wall.
01:45:43.000It's the sort of straight talk, even if it's not what people want to hear necessarily or the media wants to hear necessarily.
01:45:51.000When people give it to you straight, at least you know where they stand.
01:45:55.000That's a very important quality for a politician, especially today, when so few people have confidence in their government to do what they say they're going to do.
01:46:05.000Well, all the scientific polls show this, because I read them every day, that we've never since the last realignment, since polling began the last hundred years, seen such a bipartisan disenfranchisement With the system, with Congress, again, depending on which poll you look at, between a 10 and 12 percent approval rating.
01:46:25.000Can you give us your take on this unprecedented situation?
01:46:28.000And it appears that it's accelerating downward, and I even see pundits in the media panicking.
01:46:35.000I don't know what the pundits are doing, but I can tell you that you're exactly right when you talk about the disenfranchisement in terms of the feelings of Americans.
01:46:45.000They do not believe that Congress is, A, able to listen to them, or willing to listen to them, and B, able to fix the major problems facing America.
01:46:56.000They see a problem, a major problem, in our health care system.
01:47:01.000They tell us that's one of the biggest issues.
01:47:03.000They tell us they see a major problem with the immigration of illegals to America, and the war.
01:47:12.000Yeah, they just do not see government as an agent of positive change, and when we ask them, so what do you want in a president, the number one quality they name is a competent manager.
01:47:33.000Mr. Wendell, I have a question along the lines of disenfranchisement.
01:47:38.000It's clear that the mainstream media reinforces the candidates it sort of selects.
01:47:42.000I mean, we've known Giuliani and Hillary for over four years.
01:47:48.000My question is, as those TV numbers go down and people drop out of the mainstream media, are they reinforcing themselves on the internet?
01:47:56.000And is there any projection of some sort of raw numbers of voting blocs on the internet who may not be picked up by telephone polls?
01:48:05.000And how does a pollster reconcile that idea?
01:48:07.000Well, there are certain demographics that are harder to get on telephone polling.
01:48:14.000But listen, remember, our pool involves millions and millions and millions of people, so it's much more difficult today for us to get a valid, accurate representation of the voting public on the telephone, but we can still do it, and it's still relatively easy.
01:48:33.000That's why we've developed this interactive polling technology that is almost exactly opposite Because you have a lot more users that are younger on the internet and a lot older users on the telephone.
01:48:48.000So in some cases we even use hybrid polling where we do some on the phone, some on the internet and connect.
01:48:56.000Clearly, the way communication with likely voters is changing, you've got to change with the times.
01:49:04.000I mean, I've seen scientific national university polls, a whole bunch of them, where people who aren't on the web can't find the U.S.
01:49:11.000on a map, people above 64, the vast majority didn't know what year 9-11 happened.
01:49:16.000We have higher incomes, we have higher test scores, higher IQs on the internet, so we almost see a splitting of people.
01:49:24.000Well, that may be true, and it may also have an impact in certain congressional races, for instance.
01:49:32.000But we're talking about a race for president here, where you're getting turnouts at 70-75% of the registered voters, and that means you're going to get people to the polls who couldn't tell what state's right next to them.
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01:54:04.000Until about 10 years ago, and I've studied the history of this, and I've seen studies on it, Generally, they were pretty accurate down to 4 or 5 percent.
01:54:13.000Now, magically, with these electronic voting machines with no record and their own executives going public and people saying they were hired to rig it and all the cases of it being caught in HBO specials, now, magically, in these key races, in some areas, it's not matching up.
01:54:29.000And so you say your numbers in the Senate races were matching up, with the machines, but some of those cases, it wasn't matching up with the exit polls.
01:54:41.000Well, exit polls are increasingly problematic, and it's a function of the changing way that we do vote.
01:54:50.000Some of that has to do with machines, but more of it really has to do with the early voting that is now a widespread practice across the country.
01:55:00.000So the people you're capturing voting on Election Day at the polls is a certain demographic, but you're missing all those people, the 30, 35, sometimes 40 or 50 percent, who vote away from the polls.
01:55:14.000In the state of Oregon, for instance, there aren't even polls to go to anymore.
01:55:18.000So you're missing this group of voters who, 30 days ahead of an election, may be able to cast a vote.
01:55:26.000And you never capture those people because they're not at the polls, so they won't be included in an exit poll.
01:55:34.000And that is a new trend from the last couple of presidential elections.
01:55:38.000Old Scotland said it doesn't matter who casts the ballot, it's who counts them.
01:55:41.000I think from this interview, the one thing we really do wholeheartedly agree on, and tell me if I'm wrong, Mr. Wenzel, and that's that there is revolution, change, realignment happening, record numbers of people not trusting the media, the government, the whole system.
01:55:57.000And because we see the system ignoring the will and the Constitution, you get 80 plus percent against the war, 91 percent against open borders, they don't care, both parties circle the wagons against us.
01:56:08.000Well, and the other thing you see is record low confidence in the Congress of the United States to be able to effectively address these problems.
01:56:18.000It's a tremendous vote of no confidence in the Congress of the United States, and to a lesser degree, for the President.
01:56:25.000I mean, you have about a quarter of Americans saying the President is doing a good job in office.
01:56:31.000That's not what you want to get as a President.
01:56:35.000Aaron, any final comments to our guest?
01:56:38.000I'm just personally curious to see what the projection of internet realignment may mean in the future, not so much this upcoming presidential race.
01:56:46.000There's no doubt, is there, sir, that we're seeing an acceleration of internet realignment?
01:57:57.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:01.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000Well, Winslow came on the show, but we have executives from the voting companies coming out and saying they were hired to engage in election theft.
01:58:23.000But, I mean, the spin was in overdrive and all the little answers for all the questions, which they've answered a million times, were there.
01:58:31.000Aaron, I wanted to give you a chance to respond to what you heard.
01:58:34.000Well, for me, I'm still thinking about this poll in general.
01:58:38.000I understand that Giuliani is probably Solidified, given that the system is rigged, the mainstream media is a self-reinforcing cycle that reinforces the establishment and selected candidates are put forward.
01:58:54.000But I think these numbers, by demographics especially, show that Ron Paul has the vox populi, that is the voice of the people.
01:59:01.000Whether or not that could be turned into strategic votes remains to be seen.
01:59:06.000I think the number one key here is name recognition.
01:59:08.000Ron Paul has demonstrated He's an incredible ability to raise money.
01:59:13.000He's shown that even in the rigged polls he could make a dent that will at least affect issues and may affect election itself, certainly in key states like New Hampshire.
01:59:24.000And his trajectory is growing, but expanding on that line.
01:59:28.000Regardless, we're forming meet-up groups where we can continue organizations together.
01:59:32.000We're injecting real debate into the issue.
01:59:34.000We're showing how there's no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
01:59:37.000We're showing that only Ron Paul can beat Hillary.
01:59:39.000And you heard him admitting, yeah, no, he's the strongest against Hillary as a Republican.
02:00:18.000What do you think in closing shifting gears to the Fox News saying we need to start assaulting, start beating, start attacking you, you Code Pink people, you 9-11 truthers shouldn't be allowed to go demonstrate and shouldn't be able to ask questions of Clinton or Republicans, Fox News defending Hillary, and they openly call for violence against people, and now we have Glenn Beck saying we're all terrorists, liberals, conservatives, anti-war, Lou Rockwell, we're just all... Use the military against us!
02:00:48.000That's okay, what's wrong with holding the Constitution in contempt?
02:00:52.000But I mean, to have them, to know that they've got 11% approval, that everybody's waking up and hating them, and they're on CNN and Fox saying, let's use the military against the American people, admitting they built this whole apparatus for anti-terror to use against the people!
02:01:39.000They're putting her in as their war maiden.
02:01:40.000But you can see that just a case example like Rupert Murdoch, head of the biggest media corporation in the world, or certainly among them, supports these establishment candidates.
02:01:50.000He's donated to Hillary Clinton, George Bush, John McCain, Rick Santorum, and others of that ilk.
02:01:56.000You can see that the supposed left-right paradigm is totally false.
02:02:01.000Well, when you've got defense contractors 2 to 1 given to Hillary, we've got a problem.
02:02:04.000Yeah, I mean, what we're really talking about here is reinforcing the establishment.
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02:06:40.000It would take just, you know, way too long to go over the Lou Grant Show and all of it today, but he joins us and he's here to talk about 9-11 truth, but not just that.
02:06:49.000He's really focused on the School of Americas, which trains the world how to torture and kill and how to put dictatorships in, and that's what they're now doing here in America.
02:06:56.000Naomi Wolfe's finally talking about it with the End of America book.
02:07:20.000And then they had David Horowitz on saying, let's go ahead.
02:07:24.000And he said, anti-war, libertarians like Lou Rockwell, Ron Paul supporters are, quote, in bed with Islamo-fascists that we need to, I mean, this is happening.
02:07:35.000And now they're calling for violence against all these 9-11 truth hecklers, code pink, veterans for peace.
02:09:06.000I mean, where do they get off doing this, and why do they think they're going to continue to be politely escorted out?
02:09:12.000At one point, with security so high and tensions on edge, don't you think they're going to get, at the very least, tased or beaten to a pulp by somebody who goes, These people look threatening.
02:10:07.000They've been doing it for far too long, and I also think it's a sign of desperation that they're trying to create incidents so that their people look good, the cops look good, and the occasional demonstrator will get freakish and make the Code Pink and whoever else they turn to arrest look bad.
02:11:42.000I agree with you, and getting worse by the minute.
02:11:44.000Well, you've got a lot of wisdom when it comes to these type of things.
02:11:46.000Give us your take on how should we respond to clear talking points calling for violence and saying Ron Paul supporters are aiding terrorists and are domestic threats.
02:11:56.000I mean, what should the response be when they say anti-war activists shouldn't be allowed to do this?
02:14:07.000I mean, did you see the reports that the defense contractors are giving her more money, double what they've given to the Republicans?
02:14:15.000I mean, this is off the charts, that the other Republican candidates, they're not even really giving to them, but they're lavishing Hillary.
02:14:24.000They've always done this, and they're doing it now.
02:14:28.000Jane Harman thrived with defense contract money.
02:14:33.000And just the other day, what the hell?
02:14:36.000She was... I mean, I get so inundated that I... No, no, that's the problem is, as you said, we're getting hit from a thousand sides, but I agree with you.
02:14:47.000This is desperation when they start talking about restrictions on free speech and using the military against the American people.
02:14:54.000But will the people do anything about it?
02:14:56.000I mean, did they do anything about the Patriot Act?
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02:21:58.000Very appreciative for Ed coming on the show today.
02:22:00.000Trying to give us his perspective and view on what's happening.
02:22:07.000Ed, major publications, Mainline News is, as you know, reporting that Bush signed PDD 51, stating that he's over continuity of government, not the Congress.
02:22:18.000And then, of course, last year they passed the John Warren Defense Authorization Act, and we've got those links up on PrisonPlanet.com, folks, where it says that for insurrection, for rebellion of the American people, A. I mean, just in your gut, do you think Bush is so shot politically that he won't try it?
02:22:36.000Or do you think that their backs against the wall they will?
02:22:39.000I mean, A. Do you think they'll try it?
02:22:40.000And B. What do you think our action should be if there's some staged event or real event, whatever the case may be, and Bush announces civil emergency?
02:22:52.000If Bush announces civil emergency and the people accept it, then there is no hope.
02:23:01.000I do not trust or believe in this man and the government that he is running.
02:23:09.000The people cannot wait for an investigation or for Congress to investigate and then turn around and support him.
02:23:26.000We will calmly sit down and investigate very calmly without martial law and with the most intensive of investigation by all forms of government.
02:23:38.000I agree, and what you're doing here now, preemptively discussing this fact, I mean, it's now come out, we said this two weeks ago when it started, because we already knew the history, but now it's admitted that elements of the Bush administration helped put Musharraf in, and Pakistan are now helping him with martial law, and who are they arresting?
02:23:56.000Not the mullahs, but tens of thousands of men and women in suits and ties, who are lawyers and journalists.
02:24:06.000We can see that that's the last thing that a democracy could perform.
02:24:14.000Well, my point is, it could happen here and they are setting up the apparatus for this tyranny.
02:24:21.000And if we don't resist it, if we don't fight it, you know, frankly, we need a couple of burning Buddhist monks To let our people know how bad it is.
02:24:33.000Did you know that actually happened in Chicago and one other city last year?
02:24:36.000And the media put a blurb in the Chicago Tribune, and it was not even in the news.
02:25:30.000Shifting gears, Ed, 9-11 Truth, you just spoke to a group, I saw the video in Southern California a week ago or so, or two weeks ago.
02:25:38.000What's your take on the growth of 9-11 Truth and where it's going?
02:25:42.000I am not that attuned to the inner workings of the 9-11 group.
02:25:47.000I only know that we just have to keep believing in the legitimacy, reject the idea that we're a bunch of loonies, uh talk to as many people as we can and watch them look like we just passed gas and uh continue preaching and it probably will be years you know uh years before uh
02:26:15.000Uh, any cogent, worthwhile investigation takes place, but only if it eats into the hearts and conscience of our people.
02:26:25.000And if, of course, we continue to lose our democratic way of life, it'll never happen.
02:26:32.000Not just the evidence, as you said, of it being a Reichstag staged event, but at the same time, the fact that how they've used it, and how we have all these memos and talking points, and Republican writers in the paper saying, we need another 9-11.
02:26:46.000Did you hear about that in the Philadelphia?
02:26:50.000The Philadelphia News, and we also have the Republican memos, came out, what, three months ago, a big neocon writer, and said, 9-11 helped us unite, we need another one.
02:27:46.000Hi neighbor, this is Steve Schenck, Fearless Task Force.
02:27:49.000For the first time in our country, decisions you make about food will determine whether you live free or die hard.
02:27:55.000You can decide to ignore us fools that scream food shortage, contamination, genetic poisoning, or you can store as much food as you can get.
02:28:02.000You can decide you can't afford a supply, or you can do whatever it takes to get food because you're a survivor, not a quitter.
02:28:09.000You can decide to plan food supplies for Christmas.
02:31:17.000This is our final segment with him and I hope to get him back up in the near future.
02:31:22.000We were just talking during the break about icons, how we need those symbols.
02:31:26.000Cindy Sheehan was first interviewed on this radio network, first interviewed on this show and other shows on this network, when nobody knew who she was.
02:31:33.000And I'm really proud of the fact that she got traction here.
02:31:35.000And single-handedly, with the support of the American people, she really shot down the support for the war.
02:31:41.000When she started, it had like 50% support.
02:31:53.000Well, naturally she didn't name any names, but when she retired from the field of battle, I think the implications were quite clear that the Democrats, the Liberals, the Progressives, whoever you want to call them, used her to their extent, tried to steer her and control her.
02:32:13.000And finally, that exercise just became too strenuous upon her and she retired from the field of battle.
02:33:45.000And bear in mind that when the writers go out on strike, they're signaling what is necessary for the other unions to receive remuneration for.
02:33:56.000So that's what industry, even management, fears the most.
02:34:01.000Because if the writers get anything, then the others will expect it as well.
02:34:19.000Before the break, you got into Bush needing a biggie.
02:34:22.000Every intellectual mind, the left-right center, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, father of economics, has come on this show and said they clearly are moving for martial law.
02:34:32.000He thinks they're going to stage something.
02:34:35.000Everybody I talk to from the entire spectrum says that Bush has got to do that, or he's sunk.
02:35:11.000Well, if he wants to go so far as to proclaim himself emperor forever, then he'd have to do something like that to be legitimized in creating martial law.
02:35:24.000He would have to create the bombing, we would have to react in some form or another, and we would... But I suppose before he goes into Iran, he'll try to create an incident here, which can be Like he laid Al-Qaeda at Iraq's doorstep.
02:35:43.000I'm sure he'll create an incident here and try to create some Iranian terrorists.
02:35:49.000I know it's amazing to me that you have Iran that is Shiite and the news keeps saying Al-Qaeda is coming out of Iran.
02:35:55.000Then the White House, four months ago, puts out what Sy Hershar reported, that for three years they've had real Wahhabist Sunni Al-Qaeda groups attacking the Iranian frontier, and then the media says Iran is Al-Qaeda.
02:36:33.000In closing, I'd like to get you back up, or if you've got the time.
02:36:35.000You know, it's like one of the guys that was stationed with me in France, where fortunately I was during the Korean War.
02:36:42.000I remember who wrote the letter home and said, "My God," he said, "The meals are so intelligent over here, they even understand French." Oh, man.
02:36:53.000Yeah, there was a professional football player, a star from the Dolphins, who was hiring an interpreter for his week-long stay in England.
02:38:05.000So we have been seeking, we call ourselves this great democracy, but we seek world domination in our own way and have not.
02:38:14.000Well now they're converting the military to mercenaries and saying they're going to use Halliburton domestically in the drug war and quote for the border.
02:38:22.000I mean now with immunity we're going to have Halliburton here.
02:38:24.000I mean not Halliburton, I'm losing my mind here, Blackwater.
02:38:31.000Well, I mean, they're all tied in together, for God's sake.
02:38:35.000And when you get such an austere organization such as the State Department using Blackwater, that's like Jesus dealing with the barbarians.
02:39:01.000And when we can't get our citizen army, if that's what you want to call it, to do what we want, we know we can always count on our Blackwater boys.
02:39:11.000Our Blackwater boys now domestically operate.
02:39:15.000I mean, it's like they're going down a checklist, like Naomi Wolf says, a checklist of every, you know, point of tyranny that Mussolini and Hitler and others developed.
02:40:07.000Well, I mean, they totally deserted their base, they were sent there to end the war, and then they're not.
02:40:14.000Oh, well, they've totally deserted their base for a long time, my friend.
02:40:22.000They know that so far... We need a third party is what we need.
02:40:28.000We truly need a peace and freedom party.
02:40:32.000But they know that so far they're the only game in town for anybody who's progressive, for anybody who loves peace, for anybody who wants to not engage in foreign expeditions.
02:41:11.000There's a lot of liberals who don't agree with him on everything, but they're voting for him.
02:41:15.000And I'll just tell the Democrats this right now.
02:41:16.000If you don't go switch Republican, Or you don't go vote split party, vote for whoever you want, but for President, and in these primaries, if you're in Nevada, if you're in Michigan, if you're in New Hampshire, if you're in Iowa, you better get in there and vote for Ron Paul.
02:41:29.000And I don't want to hear, oh, there's election fraud, Alex, you said there's fraud!
02:41:34.000More of a reason to get in there and do exit polls.
02:41:36.000More of a reason to illustrate what's happening.
02:41:38.000They don't have these machines in nationwide, and they're under heat, and they're getting sued, and states are throwing them out, and a lot of other things are happening.
02:41:45.000By the way, Headline, PrisonPlanet.com, here's your attack orders in the InfoWar.
02:41:50.000If you choose to take this mission, InfoWarriors, alert, alert, alert.
02:41:56.000Zogby spins poll results to marginalize Ron Paul, ignored Texas Congressman's domination of nearly every category to focus on single Giuliani success.
02:42:07.000In their press release about the results of the new telephone poll, Zogby chose to marginalize Ron Paul by highlighting a demographic that was won by Rudolph Giuliani, while largely ignoring the fact that the Texas Congressman completely dominated almost every other aspect of the poll.
02:42:22.000Under the headline, Giuliani leads among Republicans in the latest blind bio-survey, the Zogby press release reads, former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani Wrong the favorite in nationwide samples of likely Republican voters in 2008's race for the party's presidential nomination as the strongest resume of the top four contenders a new Zogby International survey shows.
02:42:58.000The telephone survey, known as the Blind Bio Poll, because likely voters are given details of the candidates' resumes without their names attached, shows Giuliani wins 34% support, compared to 22% each for Thompson and Romney.
02:43:10.000Ron Paul, who has surged recently in polls, and has a significant online following, came in last with 13% support, while 9% said they were undecided on the question.
02:43:21.000Only at the end of the article, the Zogby Statement admit, quote, the blind bio question was also poised, uh, posed to a larger poll of 1,009 likely voters nationwide, including Democrats and Independents.
02:43:33.000And Paul was the big winner among the universe of voters, winning 33% compared to 19% for Giuliani, 15% for Romney, and 13% for Thompson.
02:43:44.000Zoghvi focuses on Giuliani's success in one demographic, is completely misleading, and obfuscates the fact that Ron Paul won 90% of the categories in the survey.
02:43:53.000The fact that the headline of the press release, Trumpets Giuliani, who distantly lags behind the congressman, is nearly all of the key demographics, is a clear case of total spin.
02:44:03.000Ron Paul dominated categories where the sample was both traditionally Republican and Democratic votes.
02:44:08.000Voters were asked which platform they favored.
02:44:10.000Candidates A and D were Ron Paul and Rudolph Giuliani, respectively, but they were not directly named.
02:44:18.000And it goes on, amongst born-again Christians, Ron Paul polled 29.6%, with Giuliani garnering 22.5%.
02:44:26.000Amongst people with the military and their families, 33.3% support Paul's platform, while 18% supported Giuliani.
02:44:34.000Amongst NASCAR fans, Ron Paul pulled 32.5%, beating Giuliani's 28%.
02:44:37.000Amongst women, 34.7% favored Ron Paul's platform over Giuliani's 17%.
02:44:39.000Amongst African Americans, Paul trounced Giuliani, 45.5%.
02:44:41.000in favor of Ron Paul's platform over Giuliani's 17%.
02:44:44.000Amongst African Americans, Paul trounced Giuliani 45.5%, Giuliani's 9.1%.
02:44:51.00040.5% support Paul, 9.1% support Giuliani.
02:44:57.000Ron Paul's sweep in all these categories and many more was clearly the biggest story to come out of the poll, yet Zoghbi chose to highlight Giuliani's rare success.
02:45:07.000There is no doubt that Giuliani beats Paul on name recognition alone, but the fact that the congressman is surging ahead and getting momentum while capturing the sentiment of the nation was the biggest story to come out of this poll, but Zogby chose to stifle it.
02:45:20.000Proving once again that the self-fulfilling media obsession with relentlessly focusing on establishment-approved candidates while marginalizing others only upholds the status quo and hurts the democratic process.
02:45:31.000And we're going to do other articles, folks.
02:46:14.000So we'll probably do a story and maybe add to this that that's their perspective to look at Giuliani and say, oh, but he won with Republicans.
02:46:24.000Well, the point is, Ron Paul surged, even compared to past polls, getting 15%, and I forgot to ask him why they put out in their press release 13.
02:46:43.000People need to get the Zogby Spins poll results to marginalize Ron Paul, and it'll be censored by Digg and the entire other universe of mainstream websites.
02:46:51.000So it's up to you, ladies and gentlemen, to take the ball and run with it, because Ron Paul is doing extremely well here.
02:47:01.000And the big news is, you just heard one of the head guys at Zogby on this show.
02:47:07.000You heard the head of Zogby, Mr. Zogby, last week say Ron Paul could win and is now up to 15 points in some polls in New Hampshire.
02:47:14.000That's big news, but now, you heard him say that yes, out of all the Republicans, Ron Paul does better against Hillary, and would be better to run against Hillary.
02:47:22.000Now, I'm going to ask Republicans a question.
02:47:25.000I know you don't care about, most of you, about actual issues, or actual conservatism, or actual constitutional issues, which Ron Paul is not just a great candidate, he is founding father material.
02:47:35.000But on a silver platter, you're being given Ron Paul, the only person that can beat Hillary Rodham Clinton, that nightmare witch!
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02:52:09.000They're accelerating it out of our lives to them.
02:52:14.000They said all their minions and pumps and pimps and servants, like a huge baggage train of cockroaches following after the goblins of the New World Order and feeding on their leavings and droppings.
02:52:24.000We have to bow down to them in their little black uniforms and their little insignias and badges and just an entire group of maggots seething across the horizon.
02:52:36.000And to have Fox and CNN and all of them going, "Oh, let's taser, let's beat people "at the Pope for their free speech." Let's get them!
02:52:44.000You people aren't going to be able to continue to confront our people!
02:52:48.000See, they're saying the terror threat is us!
02:52:50.000Ron Paul, let's use the military against his supporters!
02:52:53.000These libertarians and anti-war people!
02:52:56.000It's that small government group and their supporters, the established corporations that own their pimps, own their prostitutes, And they literally are declaring war on us because they know we're alike.
02:53:09.000Liberal, conservative, all of us have to come together now, as I keep preaching for years, and see the new world order as the threat and the enemy.
02:54:21.000So that the other patriots and people that are, you know, the leadership who are jealous of me all freak out because I put my life on the line and I work 18 hours a day.
02:54:49.000Not you, the good people listening all over the world, but, you know, this nature of power and whatever, and it's nature to be a number one in some movement.
02:54:57.000I know what it is, the danger of being point man, the danger of being a major leader.
02:55:04.000Other people don't see that or understand that.
02:55:07.000Just please, I want to hear every talk show host on this network, on other networks, I want to hear you all talking about this poll.
02:55:15.000Okay, I want to hear you all exposing this.
02:55:17.000We went and did a fair poll in Ron Paul 1.
02:55:20.000Across the board, from NASCAR, to blacks, to Hispanics, to women, to libertarian, to liberal, and the head of Zogby, their head analyst, and the head of public relations said, yeah, he's the best against Hillary.