Alex Jones is joined by Jesse Benton, John Taylor Gatto, and John T. Taylor Gassatto to discuss the Ron Paul campaign, the upcoming primary election, and much, much more. Alex Jones is a long time supporter of Ron Paul and has been with him since the early days of the campaign.
00:00:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:22.000Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:42.000Welcome, thank you so much for joining us.
00:00:44.000It is the 28th day, the 28th day of November 2007.
00:00:49.000We were going to have Naomi Wolf on yesterday to talk about the 10 steps to fascism, the 10 easy steps.
00:00:56.000but we had to reschedule that, so she's joining us coming up in an hour and a half.
00:00:59.000In 30 minutes, the communications director for the Ron Paul 2008 campaign, Jesse Benton, is going to join us to talk about all the new developments and things that have happened in the media and, of course, the upcoming primaries for a quick update from him.
00:01:13.000And then John Taylor Gatto, who is a historian and really an expert, because I've researched it in great depth myself, so when I've heard him speak on the radio and read some of his writings, let me tell you it's very accurate.
00:01:25.000But getting in, and he knows a lot of stuff I didn't know even, but I went and looked into. - Yeah.
00:01:31.000Concerning really the secret history of American education and how they took us from the most intelligent, most informed, most wealthy, on average, most successful people on earth, and turned us into the lowest test scores, lowest IQ, dumbest, some of the dumbest people on the planet, on average.
00:01:49.000That's not saying all of us individually are as Americans, but it shows how this process was carried out with great, great skill.
00:02:00.000Now, we are also going to get into several pieces that I want to comment on and to break down from MSNBC.
00:02:15.000And the individuals over there, and the way they're implying that Bush is just an idiot and a moron, which at a certain level is not very articulate compared to a John F. Kennedy or somebody like that, or a Bill Clinton.
00:02:28.000But you think he's attacking Bush, and at a certain level they are, but it's partisan.
00:02:33.000And as much as I like some of the people that are out there doing that, like John Stewart, Or, of course, Countdown with Keith Uberman.
00:02:46.000At the end of the day, all of that's going to stop when Hillary gets into office.
00:02:50.000And so we need to discuss the next level of all this and where this is going.
00:02:54.000Also, speaking of Ron Paul, I saw quite a few articles, I read them for about an hour last night, on Ron Paul, even a Washington Post detailed story explaining why Ron Paul is so popular and why all the trends show that libertarian ideas, true paleoconservative ideas, are going to get more and more popular.
00:03:13.000And how the Republican Party went into Congress in 1994 claiming they were going to be the A party of small government and freedom, and they've become the exact opposite, just like their cohorts, their partners in crime, the Democrats.
00:03:26.000Now, we've all said this ourselves, but when the Washington Post and the LA Times and a bunch of other newspapers were saying basically the exact same thing, get used to it, the establishment has totally blown their credibility, major societal upheaval and political revolution is in the air.
00:03:45.000There is now a public admission, I mean, I probably I don't know.
00:03:49.000Eight, nine articles and I wasn't reading all of them last night.
00:03:52.000It was just every other article I looked at from big publications were basically saying the same thing.
00:03:59.000And that's why the establishment is really getting freaked out and upset right now.
00:04:03.000And that's why the establishment is moving to try to build straw men, to try to discredit us.
00:04:12.000That's why they're putting out more and more hit pieces.
00:04:15.000That's why they're spinning what we say and what we do.
00:04:19.000And, bottom line, bottom line, we need to get ready for this, because we have the momentum, we have the common sense, we have the people on our side, and more and more every day as the population wakes up, but it's still going to be a very, very dangerous road we go down.
00:04:39.000But it's safer to be awake and aware and fighting back instead of just laying supine prostrate on our backs going along with this.
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00:08:00.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:06.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:10.000All right, all right before you know the wrong ball and police state war news and economy and all play this clipper people and you know down where he basically implies that bush is a buffoon and idiot uh...
00:08:34.000no reason he's a very very wicked cunning individual kind of like a rattlesnake is He is a bumbling fool from so much drug abuse and alcoholism and the rest of it.
00:08:46.000That much is clear, but overall, it just makes it all a joke.
00:08:51.000And while it's fun to laugh at the things that Bush does, and I've done it myself, so I'm not even really attacking Oberman here, the fact that they continue to make it just a joke really waters down just how serious it is.
00:09:05.000And the second clip is a better report from Oberman, and I'm just trying to not even critique Oberman, I'm trying to illustrate the fact that we all think people like Oberman and Colbert and others are our little buddies, but I've seen them be very one-sided and friendly towards the Democrats.
00:09:23.000I mean, Naomi Wolf's supposedly going to be on with us in the next hour.
00:09:26.000She worked for the Clintons, and she's writing this thing about how we're going into a fascist dictatorship.
00:09:30.000It's true, but the Clintons are involved.
00:09:33.000So, we have to realize it's both parties.
00:09:35.000And I know you as the listeners know that, but the general public still isn't fully aware of that.
00:10:11.000During his cameo at the Israeli-Palestinian conference in Maryland today, the President had less luck with the names of the participants than Czech President Václav Havel did with Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa in 1998.
00:10:25.000With no new American proposals or promises to actually help facilitate the peace process, the rhetoric of progress ringing hollow at the U.S.
00:10:32.000Naval Academy in Annapolis this morning.
00:10:34.000And so did the pronunciation ring hollow.
00:10:37.000The President, flanked by leaders from Israel and the Palestinian territories, tried to convey an air of import and gravitas.
00:10:43.000Even putting on glasses before he embarrassed everybody.
00:10:48.000The representatives of the government of the State of Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
00:10:53.000Represented respectively by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and President Mahmoud Abbas in his capacity as Chairman of the PLO Executive Committee.
00:11:29.000Thus, with the help of a man whose name he can't pronounce and whose company he quit after a mere three hours, with the help of a man whose name he can't pronounce and whose company he quit We're joined now by our own Richard Wolff, Senior White House Correspondent for Newsweek Magazine.
00:11:57.000Well, in any event, the President could only spend 120 minutes in Annapolis, if that much, This afternoon he made time to grant an interview to the Associated Press.
00:12:06.000He said he's been, quote, very engaged up to the moment in the peace process and that he's concerned that it won't work.
00:12:13.000So why has he avoided going to the countries and why did he leave after three hours today?
00:12:18.000Well, there are a couple of ways to look at this.
00:12:20.000First of all, any peace process at all, after seven years of nothing under this administration, is to be welcomed.
00:12:33.000But look, if this president can achieve this much, doing relatively little, then imagine what he could achieve actually engaging with this.
00:12:42.000So, as this moves forward, remember this is the beginning of this, not the end, there is scope for him to actually become much more fully engaged than he has.
00:12:52.000The White House says he's been making phone calls, he's been doing stuff, but we all know from his language, from his schedule, that's not the case.
00:13:02.000He could do a lot more and he could achieve a lot more.
00:13:04.000But when the AP pressed him on what he thinks is very engaged, according to his own terms today about the Mideast Peace Mission, Mr. Bush replied, I work the phones, I listen, I encourage, I have meetings, I do a lot of things.
00:13:18.000He ran out of specifics after meetings?
00:13:20.000Why didn't he just go back to that line from the debates three years ago that it's all hard work?
00:13:27.000Every model that has happened before with American presidents getting involved in the Middle East, whether it's Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton, has been about personal engagement.
00:13:35.000I have no doubt that Secretary Rice will fully immerse herself in this, but it does require leadership.
00:13:41.000The way the president has looked at this, the way he expressed it today, was as a bilateral negotiation between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
00:13:49.000Well, yeah, the two countries have to work things out.
00:13:51.000But it's been bilateral for seven years, and bilateral has meant war.
00:13:55.000So really, it does require, in the words of one very close American ally, it requires babysitting.
00:14:01.000There is only one babysitter that can happen here, and that's the United States of America.
00:14:06.000The bigger issue here is the establishment engages in a tactic I call putting things into a process.
00:14:15.000And where you have untenable events, and both sides killing each other, and the Palestinians living in absolute degradation, the Israeli population living in fear under military censors and control, this just endlessly stretches it out, and it's meant to go on and on, and it's not meant to have any real peace process, but they constantly make the public think that.
00:14:36.000Just like with Iraq, they keep saying, oh, well, we'll be able to tell you when we can pull out next year.
00:14:43.000But if you actually read the Pentagon War Plans, they intend to be there for at least 30 years and to build What, six giant permanent bases?
00:14:59.000And now they're saying, oh, 50,000 troops are basically going to stay there forever, because the Iraqi government has just now asked us to stay, and has just now asked us to build bases.
00:15:10.000They've been building bases since day one, and then now they act like the puppet government has made this decision and told us to stay, and so it doesn't matter what the American people want.
00:15:21.000Speaking of that, do you have that Fox News clip?
00:15:25.000No, there's another Fox News clip I sent you.
00:15:27.000I forgot to ask if you had it, where Fox News is talking about how we're not going to end the war, how we're going to keep troops there.
00:15:33.000Yeah, let's go ahead and play that one.
00:15:35.000It's another example of how they put it into a process and then keep stretching it out to another year, another year, another year, another year.
00:15:43.000That's how they run these occupations.
00:15:53.000The pact will be negotiated next year and is supposed to be finalized by July.
00:15:58.000Senior Iraqi officials say Iraq will offer America military bases outside major Iraqi cities in return for security guarantees against both foreign threats and internal attacks.
00:16:11.000force of about 50,000 troops Down from the current figure of more than 160,000.
00:16:16.000So there's the announcement on Fox News.
00:16:22.000Now we told you a year before the war that was the plan.
00:16:25.000Not because we are riding around in gypsy caravans and have crystal balls, but because the Pentagon and the Israeli war planners had said as early as 1983 this was the plan.
00:16:39.000Break Iraq in three to four parts, Show sectarian violence, spread rebellion and discord and destabilization into the rest of the region, all part of a balkanization strategy.
00:16:51.000All part of a divide-and-conquer strategy.
00:16:58.000Now, compare that to this Keith Olbermann report that is very illuminating, and does point out the hypocritical nature of Fox News and others concerning 9-11, and those of us that even dare talk about prior knowledge, or letting it happen, or Bush knew, here it is.
00:17:16.000First person in the world to bronze, the Bathtub Head himself, John Gibson, host of Fox Noises, is the big, I'm sorry, co-host.
00:17:35.000He knows the inside story, that she was part of a, quote, anti-Bush cabal inside the CIA, something that should be rooted out.
00:17:43.000John, you do realize that you're such a non-insider.
00:17:46.000You've just exhausted your knowledge on the subject by successfully spelling CIA.
00:17:52.000Our runner-up, Rudolph Giuliani, buying those rationalizations by the carload lot, trying now to take back his 1972 presidential vote for George McGovern by telling the Weekly Standard, quote, I had traditionally been a Democrat.
00:18:06.000I actually remember saying to myself, if I was a person really deciding who should be president right now, I'd probably vote for Nixon, because then the country would be safer with Nixon.
00:18:18.000So, you were for Nixon before you were against him?
00:18:21.000My, Rudy, 344 days to the election, you've already run out of BS?
00:18:26.000But our winner, the New York Post, mocking the Ohio University poll, showing that 62% of Americans agree that it is either very likely or somewhat likely that the government failed to heed warnings about 9-11.
00:18:38.000You know, like the Intel Roundup titled, Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S., or the flight school warning from Phoenix, or the tenant briefing.
00:18:47.000So this is what the clowns at the New York Post put up as their headline about this.
00:19:04.000Prez was warned of possible hijackings before terror attacks!
00:19:10.000See, anybody can throw somebody under a bus, even a president under a bus, but it takes particularly elastic morality to pretend you have pulled him out from under the bus and then to start yelling at others as if they did it.
00:19:23.000The New York Post, your best defense against dog droppings.
00:19:43.000When Fox News talks about how they've got cameras on police cars scanning all your plates, or cameras in school bathrooms, or door-to-door gun searches, they'll say it's bad, but they'll laugh about it.
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00:24:53.000There are voices in the street And the sound of running feet And they whisper the word... Alex!
00:25:03.000There are men coming down from the valley There are tall ships flying off the coast And they carry the light in the dark of the night Like a whisper in the wind
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00:25:57.000Let me shift gears now to another subject.
00:26:05.000Head of Greek Privacy Watchdog resigns over police use of cameras to monitor protests.
00:26:12.000The head of Greece's Privacy Watchdog, their government watchdog group, resigned Monday over the government's use of traffic cameras.
00:26:20.000So they first put them in for traffic, then it's for spying.
00:26:22.000To monitor demonstrations, raising the stakes in a heated dispute over civil liberties.
00:26:28.000Now, even in Communist China, the government has gotten in trouble because it's so much seen as Big Brother.
00:26:35.000Even in China, where they arrest you for your speech.
00:26:38.000That the general public, though, see, they can arrest you over there by claiming you violated the government's code, and they go after you.
00:26:47.000But then they also say, but if you aren't under suspicion, you shouldn't be watched.
00:26:50.000They have more of a Fourth Amendment over there than we have here now.
00:26:56.000And there were articles months ago about that in China, where they've been forced to take down cameras in parks and other areas, because lo and behold, the Chinese population protested and sued and went into the government offices.
00:27:09.000And members of the Communist Party said, of all people, you can't do that.
00:27:15.000Now, in Greece, they are talking about taking them out.
00:27:24.000Petrius Gorgakis, I'll pronounce that right, said police directly breached his powerful Data Protection Authority regulations by using closed-circuit cameras for surveillance at a Central Athens protest Saturday, despite a ban.
00:27:41.000Under federal and state laws, the police aren't allowed to run your plates unless they have probable cause.
00:27:46.000They think That you might be driving drunk or and it's pretty easy Level, I mean, I mean, there's not much there but but but still they're supposed to have some probable cause to run your plates Under the next system We were reading this article out of Popular mechanics of all places pushing how great this is you're staying Mike here at the office of you know, there are logins that we pulled it up in there indeed is and
00:28:17.000And so I'm illustrating here how they have face scanning cameras, millions of cameras all over the country, small towns have federally installed cameras.
00:28:24.000They told the general public ten years ago, oh these are just for traffic, but yeah, dual use, they're for spying on the public.
00:28:31.000Cameras in school bathrooms, cameras in the schools.
00:28:33.000I mean, no one can deny this is Big Brother.
00:28:36.000The cameras hooked into the police departments.
00:28:38.000No privacy, no due process, no nothing, guilty until proven innocent.
00:28:42.000And now I have an article Here, out of the Palm Beach Post, that is talking about how they have the cameras that shout orders at you at the beach.
00:28:52.000If you start kissing or holding hands, it's a quote, anti-sex cameras, but also a quote to fight crime.
00:28:59.000They want you to know the cameras are there, and they have this oppressive control.
00:29:04.000But here it is out of Poplar Mechanics.
00:29:06.000I've been telling you about this for about eight, nine years.
00:29:08.000Because I would see the federal grants and state grants for this and it was never in the news then.
00:29:13.000The last four or five years it has been in the news that Houston, Austin, San Diego, LA, New York, a bunch of cities have gotten it.
00:29:23.000And it is Police cars with cameras on both sides that can read hundreds of plates a second, and they're running everybody's plates, and they got cameras on the poles doing it.
00:29:32.000And so this is Big Brother, and we got Jesse Benton from the Ron Paul campaign coming up, but after we have him on, I'm gonna get back into all this, and look at how in China they see what it is, in Greece they see what it is, but in England and the U.S.
00:29:44.000and other places, where we've always had liberty, we don't know tyranny when we see it.
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00:33:58.000I sat down with Big Brother and the National ID.
00:34:07.000Don't want a chip in my wallet Chip in my car And if I want to travel It's nobody's business how far Don't want no shackles Don't want no shackles on me I said shame on big brother Always tracking and tracing me
00:34:34.000Don't want a chip in my mother, a chip in my wife, a chip in my baby.
00:34:42.000Stay out of our life, don't want no shackles, don't want no shackles on me.
00:34:50.000I stay down with big brother, no more slavery.
00:36:58.000I've got Naomi Wolf coming up next hour if the time zone bug doesn't continue to get our guest as well as Jesse Benton and John Taylor Gatto with the secret history of education all coming up in the second and third hour.
00:37:15.000Right now let me just go ahead and get back into this report Top 5 Next Generation Cop Car Gadgets.
00:37:30.000This is Popular Mechanics, good old Hearst Publishing, telling us how great it is.
00:37:33.000Now, notice, this is in the news a decade after it started being tested, five years after it's been put in, in a whole string of states that I knew about.
00:37:43.000In fact, it says, what, New Jersey, it says Texas, I know it's in California, And I've seen it on Austin cars.
00:37:54.000I've seen it on... It's got actually four cameras.
00:37:58.000It's black pods around the sirens on each end.
00:38:04.000And it says here that it reads all of your license plates and runs them.
00:38:12.000In about 20 milliseconds, the officer gets results in near real time.
00:38:17.000So we're going to be getting into that A little bit later, and then illustrate just how serious these Big Brother tools are.
00:38:25.000You're being searched, you're being scanned, and it's also been incorporated into the cameras that are on the light poles and everywhere, because if those are digital cameras, they're able to run them in to the quote, threat matrix centers, county emergency management centers that have FEMA and the feds within them, hooked into the Pentagon, hooked into the Department of Transportation, I'll never forget one morning my dad called me about five years ago and said, turn to C-SPAN, turn to C-SPAN about 7 a.m.
00:38:51.000and I turned it on and they had the federal head of the Department of Transportation on bragging and they were flipping around the different cameras around the country showing how the feds had put these systems in and I saw other cities my dad said that before I flipped over there they were showing Austin Roads.
00:39:07.000And then flipping to downtown Austin and showing people walking around and bragging about the federal control.
00:39:13.000But you don't have to believe me about that C-SPAN program.
00:39:15.000You can just go Google it and pull the news articles up.
00:39:44.000I am in sunny Clearwater, Florida, here for the CNN YouTube-based debate that's happening tonight.
00:39:52.000Tell us, in the run-up, what some of the issues the Congress is planning to focus on are.
00:40:01.000Well, tonight, you know, Rob's going to talk about freedom like he normally does, and I think tonight's debate is going to have an interesting little twist.
00:40:08.000I don't know how many of your listeners checked out the Democratic YouTube debate, but it's all going to be questions that are submitted by Regular people out there in America through YouTube videos, and I think it really gives Ron a great opportunity to be able to address the concerns of real Americans that have taken the time to make these videos and submit these questions.
00:40:31.000I mean, that's just great, and anytime that Ron can get closer to the American people, he just really shines, and people just realize he's the one that's really defending the best interests of the American people.
00:41:10.000We are at a funder in a restaurant down in Clearwater, Florida.
00:41:14.000Just having a private little fundraiser.
00:41:15.000You know, just more people getting together.
00:41:18.000You know, we have people on the internet getting together to give money.
00:41:20.000We have people that want to step up and talk to Dr. Paul and are willing to part with their hard-earned Federal Reserve notes to have lunch with Dr. Paul.
00:42:10.000It was amazing what you were able to do and all the grassroots supporters out there were able to do.
00:42:17.000No, you know, the publicity that we got from having this unprecedented fundraising day, November 5th, was amazing.
00:42:23.000The money that we were able to pull in over $4 million in one day, record-setting day, was incredible.
00:42:28.000And I guess it looks like people are organizing another amazing event for November 16th.
00:42:34.000The campaign is Well, that's why Trevor Lyman came up with the idea for a surge on the last day of November, this Friday, to try to go to that $12 million mark.
00:42:40.000Also, grassroots out there, don't forget that we also need a consistent revenue stream, too, coming into the campaign.
00:42:47.000Well, that's why Trevor Lyman came up with the idea for a surge on the last day of November, this Friday, to try to go to that $12 million mark.
00:42:57.000That'll get massive press that a month early, Ron Paul would break his $12 million record.
00:43:04.000us that'll get more money in so we need i'm going to give well i'll give my maximum but i'm going to make sure i'm going to try to convince others to give this friday and then of course continually up until the 15th and 16th yeah you're right uh we you know we've heard about this about this uh other money surge that uh that people are trying to put together for the 30th and you know we're real excited to see what comes together on on the 30th if we if we could hit that 12 million dollar mark on the 30th first of all it's smooth out our revenue stream for us a little bit
00:43:33.000it's going to allow us to start pumping more earned media into the states that are coming up on february 5th and uh I mean, I cannot put into words how incredible this is.
00:43:42.000our day you know it would be absolutely incredible and we are just so thankful that the grassroots is putting this together spontaneously we can't wait to see what happens on November 30th we also can't wait to see what's gonna happen on December 16th we hope they're both gonna be great days absolutely I mean I cannot put into words how incredible this is last night Jesse I spent about it's almost embarrassing It was more than an hour.
00:44:11.000Late night reading, just typing Ron Paul into Google and clicking news.
00:44:15.000Thousands of new articles just in the last few days.
00:44:20.000I read 20 or so, and more than half of them, Washington Post, LA Times, were saying the same thing.
00:44:27.000They were saying both parties have blown their credibility.
00:44:30.000The Republicans came in in 94 as a small government.
00:44:39.000And all of the big political pundits, and by all, all the ones that aren't under Republican or Democratic pay right now, but big names, as I'm sure you're aware, are suddenly shifted and said, look, Ron Paul may not win, and we believe he will and he has a shot, but regardless, this is only the start of a total realignment but regardless, this is only the start of a total realignment towards libertarian slash paleo-conservative And to me, and I had to quit reading, Jesse.
00:45:04.000I mean, it was article after article after article basically capitulating and saying, we're not kooks, we're the mainstream, there's been a major realignment, the liberals are waking up and becoming libertarian, conservatives are rediscovering their roots.
00:45:36.000Liberty is a new revolutionary idea that we started in America.
00:45:40.000We have such amazing traditions in America of limited government, personal freedom, personal responsibility.
00:45:46.000We've strayed away from that, but we haven't gone so far that we can't easily right the ship if we follow the Constitution, follow men like Ron Paul.
00:45:54.000And I think Americans are really just waking up to that.
00:45:57.000We can restore our American traditions, restore our revolution of freedom, And we can do it.
00:46:04.000We can look to our answers in the Constitution, in our great American traditions, and we can get this country back on track.
00:46:24.000My wife is close to maxed out on giving, but she's going to give again Friday for this November 30th surge.
00:46:31.000But what do you think of the idea, because I've looked into it before, it's between $300 and $500, $1,000 if you want to have the plane stop and refuel, to have Cessnas over bowl games this weekend, the next weekend, and the weekend after that.
00:46:45.000People, every major city, just Google it, you know, aerial advertising.
00:46:50.000Today I'm going to call, just like I said I was going to get that poll, I did that with Zogby, a fair poll.
00:46:56.000I'm going to buy airplanes on it because it's so inexpensive comparatively.
00:47:00.000I'm going to buy airplanes on at least three dates coming up in the next two weeks, the next three weeks, and then one coming up in the primaries.
00:47:09.000And I want everybody else to buy airplanes that say RonPaul2008.com.
00:47:14.000I'll even buy the jumbo longer banners and have them fly over bowl games and over big concerts.
00:47:41.000It's about people like you that are coming up with these amazing, spontaneous, Creative ideas.
00:47:46.000Freedom unleashes the creativity and the power of the human and the American spirit, and that's what's driving these wonderful ideas.
00:47:56.000So many people are coming up with these terrific, creative ideas on their own, independent of the campaign, cooperating with the campaign, supporting the campaign, supporting Dr. Paul, and supporting freedom, and that is our ace in the hole.
00:48:09.000That is what the other campaigns can't buy.
00:48:14.000Now, Jesse, give me your political instincts.
00:48:16.000I mean, you've shown to be very cunning when it comes to getting the message of liberty and freedom out there.
00:48:24.000I told Trevor, when we kind of conceived of this new offensive, and we kind of brainstormed here on air, that I thought it should be the 15th and 16th to try to raise $5 million each day, and I predict What do you think?
00:48:37.000might not even hit the goal the first day, probably get $3 or $4 million, but the hysteria it would cause is everybody has another day to spread the word and let that firestorm break out that on the Sunday we'd probably raise $6, $7 million.
00:48:52.000Trevor's looking at, because originally we said two-day, then others wanted one day.
00:48:56.000What do you think, two-day or one-day money bomb?
00:48:58.000You know, one thing that I have noticed is with this thermometer or this live contribution counter, it really does build momentum over time.
00:49:11.000When we first really started to gain traction, it was at the end of last quarter, we were trying to raise $500,000 in one week.
00:49:38.000You know, it's going to be up to the grassroots out there, but for my two cents, two days sounds like a smart idea.
00:49:46.000Well, that's what Trevor wants to do, but he's kind of going with the blogs and forums, but I think that once they hear what you have to say, they might listen to it.
00:49:52.000Regardless, we want to get the hype going Saturday, get the media paying attention, instead of them just paying attention at the end of the second day.
00:49:59.000And I would think that $4.2 million, wouldn't you say we got a quadrupling for the campaign in just massive media coverage?
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00:53:08.000The whole country's on a bus, a crazy driver, but the passengers can't get hold of the wheel.
00:54:18.000Imagine being able to be the Communications Director in one of the most legendary campaigns ever.
00:54:23.000I mean, any way you cut it, they're making campaign history, and we're doing it together, changing the rules of how this is done, showing the New World Order.
00:54:32.000Jesse, in the few minutes we've got left with you here as you're out there in the field, We were talking during the break, and I guess the info I had was correct.
00:54:40.000You need money now to be able to budget it out for the rest of this month, but if you get $5-10 million on the 15th and 16th, you're going to be able to spend that coming up in January and February in the primaries.
00:55:21.000Now, for folks that don't know, this week in a lot of these first primary states is the deadline to switch Republican.
00:55:27.000If you were a Libertarian or a Democrat, people need to switch over now and then give us some of the basic states.
00:55:34.000Yeah, well, you need to know the rules of your local state, and we've got all those guidelines on our website, RonPaul2008.com.
00:55:44.000We've got the rules for your specific state as far as voting requirements, registration dates, all that, open, closed primaries, caucuses, things like that.
00:55:52.000We've also, Alex, got guidelines on how to become a delegate, and that is one of the most important things that you could do to support the Ron Paul campaign out there, is to become a Ron Paul delegate.
00:56:03.000That is what really is going to drive this thing.
00:56:08.000We need as many Ron Paul delegates as possible.
00:56:12.000Absolutely, and again, what are the most important battleground states, and give us some of those dates, Jesse.
00:56:18.000Let's see, right now we've got the Iowa Caucus, January 3rd.
00:56:21.000We've got New Hampshire, primary, January 8th.
00:56:25.000Then on the 19th, we've got the Nevada primary, and then I believe on the 24th will be South Carolina.
00:57:32.000We have to put everybody out there that cares about freedom, has to put their full effort into this thing right now, because we're going to run out of time if we don't.
00:57:39.000Yeah, folks, don't wish later that you wouldn't have been part of history.
00:57:42.000I don't normally get up here and electioneer, but it's my free speech right, and I'm doing it because RonPaul2008.com needs your help.
00:57:48.000A lot of our listeners aren't on the computer.
00:57:50.000Give them the toll-free number, Jesse.
00:59:19.000But I'm going to cover this now, then I'm going to get into all the Big Brother developments that we haven't covered in detail in a while.
00:59:26.000Very important, some new developments there.
00:59:29.000Naomi Wolf is joining us today on this Wednesday edition, the 28th day of November 2007.
00:59:36.000But it was very suspicious last week when Ron Paul, last Tuesday, was in Las Vegas.
00:59:46.000And then in Reno and in Las Vegas, in walks Tucker Carlson of MSNBC, who's been claiming he's for Ron Paul but then still making little sniveling side remarks, shows up with the head of the bunny ranch, and the media all they know says, oh, look, Ron Paul was able to and the media all they know says, oh, look, Ron Paul was Ron Paul was able to get him, implying that he was there for Ron Paul.
01:00:09.000Turns out MSNBC went and contacted him and got him to come as part of a stunt, and the media spun it.
01:00:17.000Again, some people here in the background, oh, the pimps are for him.
01:00:24.000And there's a big story up on Infowars.net that Steve Watson did covering that.
01:00:47.000No doubt they did that to demonize Ron Paul now and associate him with quote, counterfeiting and illegal money, when it wasn't counterfeiting or illegal.
01:00:53.000And even the search warrant, you know, is now bearing that out.
01:00:57.000And even NPR and CNN have made fun of the fads.
01:01:06.000And every day, there's two or three, sometimes more, fraudulent orders.
01:01:10.000And they'll come in and order something, but you can always tell because it'll be the same address over and over again.
01:01:15.000We just learn to spot them, and then we just refund them back.
01:01:18.000Well, usually they haven't even run through, so we just delete them, because we have to process them and run them through.
01:01:24.000And I've talked to people who run other shopping carts.
01:01:27.000I mean, you could be selling seeds, you could be selling baby strollers, you could be selling coffee, every major shopping cart out there of any size.
01:01:35.000Anybody who's got one's had this happen.
01:01:39.000Amazon reportedly has tens of thousands of credit cards tested a day on them, because they're the biggest out there.
01:01:45.000Well, Ron Paul had $3,000 of fraudulent charges, gifts, last week, and then they noticed it, and so they contacted the bank credit card it was, and said, here's your money back.
01:01:59.000Because with their political contribution, it does process it, because they use the PayPal.
01:02:04.000And the media then had headlines like, Ron Paul involved in bank fraud, and then it would say later, oh it was a shopping cart and there were a couple of fraudulent orders testing cards.
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01:07:15.000The Associated Press is reporting that a high-level government minister in Greece has stepped down.
01:07:25.000In fact, if you go to PrisonPlanet.com in the Police States section at the top, it's the fifth story down, and they're stepping down because the police in Greece are illegally using the traffic cameras to spy on the general public and watch demonstrations and protests and track the population.
01:07:43.000In China, several months ago, major cities had to remove cameras in public places because, again, China says, you're not allowed to criticize the Communist Party, you're not allowed to do that, and we'll arrest you and make you spend years in a gulag, in a forced labor camp, either in a factory.
01:08:01.000They have millions in their factories and millions on their rice farms and other plantations.
01:08:06.000We have photos of that and news articles on that in Endgame.
01:08:14.000But the public looked at the code and said, but you're not allowed to surveil us without having probable cause, without having a reason to investigate us.
01:08:25.000And so, all over China, they have been removing cameras in parks and public places because the public says, we don't like being surveilled.
01:08:33.000So, there's big demonstrations, government ministers resigning over spying with the traffic cameras in Greece.
01:08:42.000Also in Russia, I've seen reports of all places, a horrible police state.
01:08:51.000Now, compare that to the US, where for at least a decade, we've seen news reports of not just cameras in the school classrooms, but cameras not just in the bathrooms, but in the bathroom stalls.
01:09:02.000Just type into Google, uh, cameras in school bathrooms, and you'll get hundreds of reports.
01:09:08.000And then, remember the case that was in Tennessee about four years ago, that was the worst I'd ever seen, where the visiting basketball, girls basketball team in eighth grade, went into the showers at the field house after the game.
01:09:23.000And there was cameras in the showers, and the girls did what was normal.
01:09:27.000They threw their clothes on, ran out screaming, there was parents throwing fits, police had to be called.
01:09:33.000And I'll never forget, this was all over the Tennessee papers, The principal saying, what's the big deal?
01:09:43.000There could be illegal stuff going on in the showers.
01:09:45.000We have to have video cameras hooked into there.
01:09:47.000And then it turned out they were hooked into the police department, then it turned out that they did a police investigation of themselves, and that they had had file swapping as far away as North Carolina.
01:10:01.000And then now you see the reports from Sacramento, California to New York, New York, where they have, it's all over the country, I see these every couple days now, where the cameras in the classrooms, in the bathrooms, in the halls, in the lunchrooms are wired live into the police department and they're getting federal and state and sometimes private corporate grants to do this.
01:10:27.000And then you add to that that Google announced last year, people couldn't believe it, and they went to our story on Prison Planet and found the links to Google's press release.
01:10:35.000Google bragged and their stock went up and said, yeah, we've developed two different software packages, the one we're implementing out of Tel Aviv.
01:10:43.000Israel, developed by a research project we funded there, where the microphone in the, which is in almost all new computers, many of the older computers, will listen for key words, listen to a dog barking, and you'll have dog food ads flash up on your screen, it'll listen to what you're watching on television, and then tailor packaging around that, and it was just no big deal!
01:11:06.000I remember telling you more than ten years ago, because an engineer at Time Warner here locally told me, He said, Alex, you say you've got cable.
01:11:15.000Have you noticed the new Scientific Atlantic cable boxes have a microphone on them, but there's no application to use them at this time?
01:11:38.000Remember when Janet Jackson had the on-purpose, by design, I guess you'd call it false flag wardrobe malfunction?
01:11:46.000You can clearly see her just pull it out.
01:11:49.000And she even had it, you know, festooned with decorations.
01:11:53.000With, I guess it was Timberlake or somebody she was dancing around with.
01:11:56.000And T-Vobe, the DVR system, one of the many DVR systems, the most popular, that lets you pause, rewind, you know, fast forward, save your favorite programs.
01:12:05.000Tebow announced, hey, 2.3 million record replays that day of that.
01:12:16.000And the Chicago Tribune rightly went, well, wait a minute.
01:12:19.000How do you know how many people rewound and replayed her breasts coming out?
01:12:27.000And they went, oh, yeah, well, don't worry.
01:12:29.000We just have computers that analyze the data you're viewing habits.
01:12:34.000You see, Nielsen asks you and pays you hundreds of dollars a year, Nielsen ratings, to stick a box on your television to then monitor what you watch and then they sell that data.
01:12:48.000But Time Warner and of course TiVo and a hundred plus other companies don't.
01:12:56.000If somebody came to your house and knocked on your door And said, I'd like to pay you $100 to put cameras and microphones up in your house and watch and listen to you, everything you do, just to, for marketing data.
01:13:11.000But don't worry, people won't be watching you.
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01:13:19.000You would say, get off my front porch.
01:14:00.000Let me just launch another browser and pull that up.
01:14:05.000I want to illustrate to people that we're not making this stuff up.
01:14:07.000The Palm Beach Post reported that they're putting in cameras that watch with AI, artificial intelligence software, and it is artificially intelligent.
01:14:18.000It acts and makes decisions on its own.
01:14:21.000Kissing, holding hands, hugging, that is a prelude to sex on the beach, and they know how to sell to the public dirty sex is going on.
01:15:08.000Patrols not cameras for beach surveillance.
01:15:11.000And it says that the talking cameras are $5,500 a piece.
01:15:16.000They're wired into the police station.
01:15:19.000And they will watch what you do and then shout orders at you.
01:15:24.000Now, this is the exact same thing that England, four years ago, put in a couple thousand in London.
01:15:30.000Now, last time I checked, there were hundreds of thousands.
01:15:34.000They've even got these in Sheffield, where Paul Watson lives, his brother Steve's in London.
01:15:39.000And if you accidentally, a piece of paper falls out of your backpack, or papers are on the hood of your car, or blow out, I mean this happens to me every week, And this has even been in the news.
01:16:51.000It says, the stories about Senator Larry Craig and Representative Bob Allen, if they have a reason to sell it to you, must really have gotten to someone in Martin County.
01:17:01.000What else explains the nutty idea to put cameras on beaches to scare or catch people looking for sex?
01:17:08.000And then it goes on to say, uh, consider the cost and consider what they want to do.
01:17:13.000They say it's the equivalent of 30 sheriff's deputies, 20 firefighters in next year's budget.
01:17:19.000Uh, but they say it doesn't matter that the new cameras shout orders at you and track and watch what you're doing.
01:17:38.000So, they're putting these in, and they're in Tampa, they're in Palm Beach...
01:17:48.000And I've seen federal grants for them going back six, seven years ago in other parts of the country, but haven't heard about them being used yet.
01:17:56.000Austin got an $844,000 a year grant consecutively for the next six years.
01:18:01.000I didn't look to see if in 2004 it ended, to put up microphones, thousands of microphones per $844,000.
01:18:09.000And now all I know is most of the cameras in Austin have shotgun mics.
01:18:15.000And then I went to the company that sold it to Austin, mentioned in the bids they put out after the grant, and they bragged you could click on audio and listen to people 200 yards away.
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01:25:54.000Again, this is a story That is out of Popular Mechanics, which is the police state advertisement magazine.
01:26:02.000But if you just type in plate reading cop cars, or plate reading cameras, you'll remember this first got in the news six years ago, headlined, Florida Town Runs Plates of All Who Enter.
01:26:16.000I believe that's the exact headline, but that'll pull it up for you.
01:26:21.000And I had already seen the federal grants in Indiana, Texas, Ohio, California, New York, Michigan, at that, even before that.
01:26:35.000And I told people, here's the federal grants, here's the federal orders, you the great listeners would go around on the federal websites where they publish in the Federal Register all the things they're buying, all the grants they're doing, it's you that does all the research, and I'd cover it, people wouldn't believe me,
01:26:50.000Now, I have friends who've gotten in the system for no driver's license or for protesting and who, you know, are battling court cases and it's been in the news with other people I don't know, other states and here in Texas where you're driving down the road, folks, and the minute That you drive by a car, that's why they swing around and pull you over.
01:27:11.000You'll notice they'll have the four cameras.
01:27:12.000Two on the front aimed out to the sides and two on the back of the sirens aimed out.
01:27:16.000There's a photo here in this Popular Mechanics story for this month.
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01:27:26.000And number three is automatic license plate recognition cameras.
01:27:31.000In any appraisal of high-tech policing, you're bound to brush up against Big Brother-worthy technology.
01:27:36.000Case in point, Automatic License Plate Recognition, or ALPR, which is essentially cameras that run every plate they see, according to Brian Shockley, Vice President of Marketing for the Tennessee-based PIPSC Technology, the leading manufacturer.
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01:28:24.000Yeah, and In the Texas legislature four years ago, they tried to pass a law that if you criticize the police, that your DPS intelligence report would go into that database as well.
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01:32:11.000Well, my guest really needs no introduction.
01:32:15.000She's a more modern feminist, you could say.
01:32:16.000I agree with reports she's put out and analysis she's done about how destructive pornography is for both men and women, and her analysis fits with the scientific reports I've seen, which of course she covered, where This is what we have her on about today, but I'm saying she's very accomplished about how it doesn't turn men into these raving rapists like people thought it would 50 years ago.
01:32:37.000It actually turns them into men who don't interface with the women in their lives and who live in a fantasy land.
01:32:43.000It's very destructive for men, not just women, but that's some of the stuff she's written about.
01:32:47.000She's written multiple best-selling books, as I'm sure many of you know, and now she has valiantly come out and put out a new book, The End of America.
01:32:59.000And she also has written an essay called Fascist America in 10 Easy Steps.
01:33:07.000And we have links to Amazon.com where you can get her book and a lot more up on Infowars.com.
01:33:14.000Naomi Wolf, thanks for coming on with us.
01:33:16.000Thank you so much, Alex, for having me.
01:33:19.000When did you start to wake up to the police state that's really accelerated its expansion under the Bush administration in the last seven years?
01:33:28.000Yeah, well it was definitely not something I wanted to think about, but I have a friend who's the daughter of Holocaust survivors, and she kept insisting, when we talked about news events, that they did this in Germany, they did this in Germany, and I was sure that this was, you know, very extreme, irrational talk, but she finally forced me to sit down and start reading, and of course I discovered that she wasn't talking about National Socialist outcomes,
01:34:08.000But a small group of people began, very systematically, to use the law and dismantle the Constitution and put pressure on citizens to subvert the law.
01:34:19.000And that opened the door for everything to follow.
01:34:21.000And then when I started reading this, I saw that not only Were tactics and strategies being reproduced exactly right now by the Bush administration, but that actual soundbites and language and images and scenarios and sort of film moments are being reproduced.
01:34:38.000And then to summarize quickly, I looked at other times and places where a would-be dictator, whether on the left or the right, wanted to close down a democracy or crush a pro-democracy movement.
01:34:52.000And I looked at Italy in the 20s, I mentioned Germany in the 30s, Russia in the 30s, East Germany in the 50s, Czechoslovakia in the 60s, China's crackdown on the democracy movement in the 80s, Pinochet's coup in Chile in 1973, and what I saw, Alex, was that there is a blueprint!
01:35:07.000I mean, that everybody who wants to close down a democracy does the exact ten things, the ten classic steps, and that unfortunately, I'm sorry to say we're seeing each of these 10 steps being put in place in the United States today.
01:35:21.000And you pointed out, and I've interviewed actual special forces colonels, commanders from Vietnam and other places where this has been carried out, and people who are involved in death squads in Latin America, that our own government, not just the School of Americas for Latin America, and Fort Benning, Georgia, but other military bases and other spy schools and other officer training schools for foreign cadets are actually training the world.
01:35:44.000The U.S. for the last 50 years has been covertly, but now it's accelerating, training the world how to carry out these very policies, this very blueprint.
01:35:53.000Yeah, it's very, very distressing, especially if you're a patriot.
01:35:58.000And, you know, we can live in this bubble, as I did until I was, you know, 43 and started researching this, where you really think, you know, we are a force for good in the world, and we should be, and often we are.
01:36:09.000But what you've just said is horrifically true.
01:36:11.000I'm sorry to say that the great dictators, you know, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler, developed this A practice that is so effective, and then what happened was petty dictators in the second half of the 20th century and up until the present learn it, study it, transmit it, and unfortunately you're 100% right.
01:36:28.000The School for the Americas, under our auspices, teaches would-be dictators, especially in Latin American countries, how to set up their own death squads, suppress dissent in their own countries, crack down, round up journalists in their own countries.
01:36:42.000the same blueprint, the same ten steps.
01:36:45.000Sorry, I was just going to say, it's kind of this really incredible lesson that since we turned a blind eye as citizens to how we were exporting this all over the world, paradoxically, we don't recognize, because we're not in practice, we don't recognize these blinking red warning lights because we're not in practice, we don't recognize these blinking red warning lights happening right now at home that democracy activists all over the And they're going, oh my god, no, you know, don't let the executive have more power to declare martial law.
01:37:13.000Don't let the executive have more power to round up his political opponents and put them in solitary confinement for three years.
01:37:20.000Now, going back to the roots of this with Hitler, and he was of course expanding on other systems of control, going back to the Romans, he adopted a lot of the, and I've read Heinz Hobel's Word of the Dead said, a lot of the Jesuits' systems for controlling countries, and so Hitler was building on a lot of sciences that had been developed before he came along, but I'm sure you know this, and I haven't finished your book yet, and I'm wondering if it's in there, that Prescott Bush was actually the head Nazi agent in the U.S., the McCormick-Dickstein committees exposed this,
01:37:49.000The guy that was about to be the Marine Corps Commandant, Brigadier General Smedley Butler, they tried to hire him to overthrow the government and set up a fascist dictatorship.
01:37:57.000So to see Bush even calling it homeland security, it was fatherland security there, setting up a homeland security, which is the Gestapo slash SS, I mean they're really going down the line.
01:38:07.000And when you learn, and I'm asking did you know this, that the Bush's actually got their first seed money from Fritz Thiessen, the man who bankrolled Hitler.
01:38:16.000Well, I have to say, as you're speaking, you know, I'm very rarely at a loss for words, Alex, but I'm so kind of overwhelmed with emotion from what you just said, because you're the first mainstream talker to say this truth, which is, you know, historically 100% accurate and profoundly important for people to understand.
01:38:47.000There was, as you just said very bravely to thousands of listeners, there was a scheme in the 30s, and Prescott Bush was one of the leaders of this scheme, industrialist, who admired fascism and who thought it was a good idea to have a coup in the United States along the lines of the coup that they saw taking place so profitably for corporations in Italy and in Germany.
01:39:14.000A hundred percent right that Smedley Butler, and actually I have a good friend who's reporting this out and has access to the original document, so he's telling me about Smedley Butler even as you're speaking, so it's like this, you know, truth is just like coming out all over the place.
01:39:28.000Smedley Butler had gone along with violent regime change much of his career, but he was approached by these conspirators, including Prescott Bush, and he outed them, and he testified to Congress that these people were planning a coup in the United States.
01:39:45.000And you are 100% right that Prescott Bush was in alliance with Thyssen, the great industrialist, the Nazi industrialist, and made millions and millions of dollars, basically the Bush family fortune.
01:39:57.000And then what is amazing to me and resonant to me is that when the Nuremberg trials finally were put in place and these Nazi industrialists, some of whom had colluded with Americans, including, by the way, IBM.
01:40:10.000were about to be brought to trial and sent to prison, there was a moment at which they were going to look into turning the spotlight on their American partners.
01:40:20.000And that's why when I look at the laws that the Bush White House has drafted, like the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which are so consciously designed to protect Bush and his co-conspirators from being indicted for war crimes, just as the Nuremberg conspirators were indicted for war crimes, That seems to me to resonate from the family history.
01:40:40.000The family history is you can make so much money, you know, uniting corporate interests with a fascist state that violently represses people.
01:40:49.000And that's why when I saw, you know, the recycling of so much Nazi language, Nazi tactics, Nazi strategies, Nazi imagery in the Bush White House, and then finally belatedly people brought to me this history of the Prescott Bush attempt to coup and Smedley Butler's revelations.
01:41:07.000It gives me chills to hear you say it out loud.
01:41:10.000Is this the first time you've spoken about it?
01:41:14.000I have I've sort of skirted the issue as I've been waiting to get enough research that is sound to have a public conversation about it.
01:41:27.000You have very bravely sort of dragged the subject out into a public conversation.
01:41:31.000I'm now confident enough of the data to confirm exactly what you're saying.
01:41:34.000Well, I mean, just so you know, I've been covering this ever since I got on air 13 years ago, and I've had a lot of historians on who really first codified this and put this together, but just Just so you know, if you go to Google Video, no need to buy the DVD from InfoWars.com.
01:42:07.000Yeah, and so no need to watch the first two hours, it's about other things.
01:42:11.000But you can fast forward to the last hour, and we have, but since we brought this out, the London Guardian's reported, the BBC has reported, And BBC Radio and TV, so it's now... You're the guy who brought it out that the BBC picked it up from?
01:42:26.000Well, no, no, let me give credit where credit's due.
01:42:30.000Webster Tarpley, I already read this and talked about it, but Tarpley, about 12 years ago, did the main research, and then Mr. Buchanan, who I interviewed for the film with John Buchanan, he actually went to verify, and we went with him, to the National Archives.
01:43:08.000I've got a friend who is standing by to make a viral film about this to get the word out to Americans because it's one thing to put the pieces together Theoretically, as I've done in my book, but when you realize that there is a family history, and again, you can't point fingers at a grandson or a great-grandson and say, you know, the pain of the ancestors on the grandson, but it just... But now he's doing it!
01:43:31.000It's kind of like saying... Now he's doing it!
01:43:34.000And it adds a dimensionality of plausibility to something that is, until you have this kind of personal history confirmation, is circumstantial evidence.
01:43:46.000Now, I want to, for your research, London Guardian, and then you can expand out from there to BBC, and it was also picked up by three U.S.
01:43:58.000newspapers, but they're local dailies, so it's all been vetted out.
01:44:06.000Prescott Bush was the main bag man on the board of directors of Fritz Thiessen's Union Carbide and Brown Brother Harriman.
01:44:15.000And then after the war, he was the bag man.
01:44:17.000And then it gets into Texas history and even family that I talked to who didn't know what they were seeing in Midland after World War II, but was telling me about this when I was a little kid.
01:44:28.000And now all this comes out about how there were all these Nazis everywhere.
01:44:32.000And it just, it just... You know, Alex, you're kidding me.
01:44:35.000Can we talk afterwards and follow up more about this?
01:44:41.000I don't know what time zone you're in.
01:44:43.000This is really important because, truly, what is so disturbing about the research that I found Yeah, thank you.
01:44:50.000breaststrokes and that's bad enough but what is really disturbing are these my new fingerprints like you look at you know they unloaded coffins at night in Germany we unload coffins at night they pioneered the embedding of reporters we pioneering the embedding stop right there let's let's go through let's go through the ten steps while we have time go ahead you got the floor yeah thank you so the first I'm sorry I'm just like it's still reeling from what you're on Well, I understand, yeah.
01:45:17.000I mean, also, I'm not putting these pieces together.
01:45:20.000I want to be super clear about this, but I just got off an interview where, for the first time, I also said in public, you know, that citizens should be able to ask any questions they want about 9-11, and that it's not a good sign in a democracy when there are some questions that are off-limits.
01:45:37.000And I made it super clear that I'm not drawing any kind of conclusions, but that Um, you know, in a strong democracy, if citizens call for more investigation of a major crime, there's more investigation.
01:45:48.000Well, did you know that Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly have said that Ron Paul supporters are working for Al Qaeda?
01:45:54.000And Glenn Beck called for the military to be used against citizens last week?
01:46:17.000That's really scary, and they called out the military against them?
01:46:20.000Well, they said, we need to consider using the military, and then if you read, yes, against citizens, and then if you read, saying we're a domestic threat, and then if you read the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, it says, it funds martial law for domestic insurrection by the citizenry, and then in PDD 51, Bush says that he's above continuity of government, not Congress.
01:46:43.000Well, that is super scary because I know that they're training FBI agents right now to identify people who are critical of the administration as terrorists, which is something right out of the Stalinist era.
01:46:53.000Playbook, and in fact Norman Podhortz's new book identifies people like me and you, obviously, as quote-unquote domestic insurgents.
01:47:00.000And, you know, in a fascist shift, what I call a fascist shift, that's step eight and nine, which is to start identifying critics of the regime, or critics of the cadre in power.
01:47:19.000That is good news, but until there's a revolution, like starting yesterday, of American patriots across the political spectrum to investigate, identify these crimes, prosecute, and put these people in jail, because impeachment, the historical record shows, is not safe enough for people who are this kind of violent.
01:47:44.000All would-be dictators, left or right, invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy, often a real one that they will hype and manipulate.
01:47:51.000The second thing they always do is create a secret prison system that is outside the rule of law, by secret I mean unaccountable, where torture takes place and they often create military commissions.
01:48:01.000There's always a blurring of the line where they start by torturing people seen as at the margins of society and then inevitably move into directing state abuse against people at the heart of civil society, journalists, editors, opposition leaders, outspoken clergy, and labor leaders.
01:48:16.000At that point, people start to self-censor.
01:48:18.000And that's why the enemy combatant thing scares me to death.
01:48:20.000The president can say, Naomi Wolf, you're an enemy combatant.
01:48:26.000And innocent American citizens, once he says this, can be put in a 10-by-12-foot cell in a Navy brig and kept there in isolation for three years.
01:48:33.000And they're now trying to introduce that idea as a White House talking point we got that anti-war libertarians, liberals are aiding terrorists and should be banned.
01:48:48.000You could tell six months ago that this was ahead, and what's interesting to me, also historically predictable, is as people start to wake up, The regime is starting to ramp down, because it is a race against time.
01:49:01.000Are we going to wake up in time and put them in prison, or are they going to get us, you know, and push us past the point of no return, which is very quick.
01:49:08.000Boy, you are certainly on the same page as I am.
01:49:20.000Blackwater, exactly, and they are operating In the United States right now, there are hand-selected torturers and murderers from regimes like Chile, Pinochet's guys, El Salvador, Nigeria, where they torture their own citizens, and they're opening training grounds in Illinois.
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01:53:44.000So paramilitary forced outside the rule of law Blackwater.
01:53:47.000They can show up tomorrow outside our doors to crack down on civil society with, as you mentioned, the Defense Authorization Act of 2007, which gives the President the power to declare a public emergency, federalize the National Guard over the objections of governors.
01:54:08.000Yeah, he can do that tomorrow because he says so.
01:54:10.000The fourth thing you need to close down an open society is to direct a surveillance apparatus at ordinary citizens.
01:54:18.000And by the way, there's a huge profit incentive, because in the wake of the Cold War, the third of the economy that was making Cold War weapons, like Boeing and Raytheon, needed to, you know, they were looking at declining market share, unless they could find a new enemy.
01:54:31.000First they had the Soviets, now they have the Arabs, now it's going to be us.
01:54:35.000Rand and others have said this, and then it integrates it, just like many of your new student packages that the students get.
01:54:44.000Scholarships are for this whole apparatus.
01:54:48.000Exactly, and they've got, so now there's billions of profits to be made if we hype a global enemy, if we turn the quote-unquote war on terror into something much bigger than it really is.
01:54:59.000And if we turn the enemy into us, because then they're creating the surveillance and security technologies now, they have lobbyists who sit down with Homeland Security and write the laws and the policies.
01:55:09.000So, you know, that's why when our organization tried, the American Freedom Campaign, tried to get the presidential candidates to stand up for the Constitution, The people who are not frontrunners on the left did so right away, but the frontrunners hesitated, and only Ron Paul has pledged it on the right.
01:55:26.000Because it is now expensive to stand up for the rights of American citizens, if you're a frontrunner, because there are billions to be made for major donors who are the telecommunications and the surveillance and security technologies industries.
01:55:48.000I mean, what we saw the model in Italy and Germany, someone just pointed out in their right, that now there are technologies that can amplify control and terror of civilians massively or that can be used to liberate civilians.
01:56:03.000Have you heard they're now putting in cameras all over, first in England, that shout orders at you and they have police cars that scan everyone's plates?
01:56:29.000Many critics of the administration are on the watch list, but it's gone up to 775,000 American citizens.
01:56:33.000175,000 American citizens 20,000 names added every month and these are people who are environmental activists anti-war activists Decorated war heroes who are critical of the Iraq war Unbelievable!
01:56:48.000The issue with this, Alex, is that people come up to me in tears after I speak about this because they wrote a letter to their local newspaper critical of Bush, their kids get put on a watch list.
01:57:00.000Now again, folks, if we give in, and this is admitted, we always knew they had lists.
01:58:32.000And Naomi, I'm going to send you a lot of these documents and news articles and video clips for yourself today so you can Yes, sir.
01:58:39.000Well, first of all, this is just something I want to say about democracy.
01:58:42.000send you all the martial law info but it looks like you already know more than I do on that uh Naomi continue with the other four steps yes sir well first of all I'm very great I mean this is just something I want to say about democracy in a living democracy this is exactly what should be happening citizens bring to one another the information they need to put all the pieces together and don't just trust the elites or trust the regime in power to you know spoon feed them the information um Okay, so then infiltrate and harass citizens groups.
01:59:09.000The ACLU has many lawsuits noting that people are doing that right now.
01:59:13.000You know, every time I speak or you speak, they're likely to be state infiltrators, sort of dressed like audience members, basically taping everything you're saying and ready to get you in trouble if they can.
01:59:24.000The seventh step is to target key individuals.
01:59:26.000Now, this is when you see people like Dan Rather going down because of White House pressure on his employer when he criticizes Bush, when you see Bill Marley lose his job, when you see Valerie Plame get outed, smearing, punitive retributions against people like Jessica Rakoff, a senior lawyer at the Justice Department who said, don't torture John Walker Lynde.
01:59:47.000She found that she was referred to the Bar Association.
01:59:49.000You're seeing people in Alabama put in prison.
01:59:51.000They ratchet up the targeting of key individuals.
02:00:18.000Well, that's super scary because, you know, at this point, you know, one or two or three There can be an outcry, but when the state starts to issue arrests for journalists, and you hear of 30 or 40 or 50, that's one of those tipping points where it's very difficult to push back.
02:00:34.000What I'm trying to stress is that democracy doesn't close down overnight.
02:00:39.000It closes down in a series of these tipping points.
02:00:41.000So for me personally, when I read, and this is step number eight, recast criticism of espionage and dissent as treason, Bill Keller, the executive editor of the New York Times, exposed the swift banking story, which showed that the government was spying on our emails and on our phone conversations illegally.
02:00:59.000And so there was this White House drumbeat, treason, treason, treason, prosecuted under the Espionage Act, Well, the penalty for treason is execution.
02:01:08.000And I was reading Goebbels when I read this and I got, again, chills because the publisher of Investia in the thirties was charged with treason by Stalin in the third Moscow show trial and was executed for treason.
02:01:21.000And the last two, the last two, we've got one minute.
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02:05:48.000Because there's a war on for your mind.
02:05:50.000Well, we just had Naomi Wolf we just had Naomi Wolf on.
02:06:14.000She says she's going to go supernova with all of our Bush Nazi info.
02:06:19.000But I remember hearing John Taylor Gatto years ago on the radio, and then last week I heard him again, and I just thought, why not get John Taylor Gatto on the show with us?
02:06:30.000And because I was listening to him, and I have guests on that basically have discovered the same things I've discovered, but even more.
02:06:40.000Because there's so much going on that not one individual of us can be experts, complete experts, on every facet.
02:06:47.000I mean, I've interviewed Charlotte Isserby, who was number two at the Department of Education under Reagan.
02:06:51.000Her dad was Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove.
02:07:15.000But my point is, John Taylor Gatto, when I was listening to him, he was bringing up all these things I knew, but then adding things I hadn't discovered.
02:07:22.000And I spot-checked a few things he said, and they checked out.
02:07:26.000And that's an example of how deep all of this is.
02:07:29.000I mean, he's just done an amazing, amazing job with the secret history of education.
02:07:36.000In this country, where it came from, how it developed, and it's the same thing.
02:07:40.000And I'm not into credit, just like you heard me tell Naomi Wolf earlier, but people out there in internet land make somewhat of an issue over this.
02:07:48.000Well, Alex, you got your information about how the elite want to set up world government to exterminate 80% of us from such and such.
02:07:56.000No, I got it from the Globalist Stone documents, and I've been talking about it for 13 years, but certainly there were those before me that did get all this, and I wanted to make the point on air, that doesn't matter.
02:08:07.000That's why I tell listeners and other talk show hosts, other people that are obsessed with this, to just take my info and take my name off of it and say, you did it, if that's what's important to you.
02:08:17.000I'm here to give credit, and this is just kind of a little side issue, but I don't care.
02:08:24.000I want to give credit where credit's due, but for me it doesn't matter.
02:09:10.000We need to get focused as a movement, as the American people, because the COINTELPRO operators try to get us all fighting and arguing over who's got all the answers, or who said it first, or who's right or who's wrong, or which supposed group runs it all.
02:09:24.000The point is, we know there's a global government.
02:09:47.000And he's just an amazing Individuals made documentary films, written books, done so much more and we're going to have to get him back up again sometime because 48 minutes is not enough time.
02:09:57.000And I appreciate him coming on with us today.
02:10:00.000Sir, I'm really honored to have you on.
02:10:16.000Listen, tell us a little bit about yourself, how you woke up to this, your life, and then just get right into the history, how they took over education, why they did it, their own words, their own documents, the sources.
02:10:29.000Sure, well I grew up in Western Pennsylvania during the Second World War.
02:10:34.000It was a town not too far from Pittsburgh and it was full of coal miners and steel workers and there was a whole lot of value placed on simple truth and thinking for yourself.
02:10:50.000We all went to school but nobody, I mean nobody, considered that school was going to be very important.
02:10:58.000You know, as I passed through two Ivy League colleges, I bought the whole program that somehow or other the people who acquire diplomas, and especially from famous schools, are set to rule the world.
02:11:16.000So I was an advertising copywriter, and in advertising there's a lot of turnover, so often you're in between jobs.
02:11:28.000In between jobs, my roommate had a school teacher's license, and he said, you gotta be crazy to do that.
02:11:36.000He did it for one day, threw his license in the drawer, and went off to be a waiter at the Waldorf Astorium, was soon making a couple thousand dollars a week.
02:11:59.000He didn't care and I started to substitute teach.
02:12:05.000And Alex, I ran into the strangest resistance at different schools, not on the part of students, but on the part of the administration to allow the teaching to be efficient.
02:12:21.000Let me just give you one example of that and you'll see.
02:12:25.000Like everyone in Texas, and I was in the Army in Texas a long time ago, I speak a few hundred words of Spanish.
02:12:33.000So they gave me a Spanish class to substitute in.
02:12:38.000I asked the kids if they knew how to tell time.
02:12:44.000In 15 minutes, you all know how to tell time in Spanish.
02:12:47.000That's basically about all I could do.
02:12:50.000So I go through telling time, and everybody can tell time at the end of the hour.
02:12:55.000By the third time I did this, because the sub has, you know, the principal came in, poured me into the hall, screamed at me that I had destroyed the entire curriculum for the month of June.
02:13:09.000She would never be able to explain it to the teacher who was out sick, but I would never be hired again at that school.
02:13:17.000I really was bewildered that someone would think that Telling Time in Spanish was the whole So, this happened in a different way at another school.
02:13:46.000Yeah, so as I taught through the years, I told my wife, I'm going to stay in this business just to see how far I can push these kids who are supposed to be stupid.
02:13:59.000And as soon as I found the limits, you know, I'll go back to advertising and make us a fortune.
02:14:05.000But after 30 years, I never found how far I could push them.
02:14:10.000The truth is, I went to Cornell and Columbia University and have degrees.
02:14:16.000And I began to teach on the level of graduate Ivy League college and these 13-year-old Harlem kids.
02:14:23.000I mean, there was a little bit of problem with the idiom, you know, and I'm much older than them, but I found that once they caught on that there was actually going to be something real going on in the class, They didn't have too much trouble keeping up.
02:14:37.000So I really was bewildered at this point now.
02:14:41.000Because then I started to get into tremendous trouble with the school district because these 13-year-old Harlem kids were winning.
02:14:50.000If I mean, if I tell you every award New York City had to give and they weren't supposed to be winning those awards.
02:14:58.000So I came under heavy scrutiny and I resigned on the Op-Ed page of the Wall Street Journal saying I wasn't willing, I didn't think any improvement was really possible in institutional schooling.
02:15:11.000I wasn't willing to hurt kids any longer.
02:15:13.000That was 15 years ago, and for the last 15 years, I mean 7 days a week, around the clock, I've been digging up where this institution came from, why it took the shape it took, and how it manages to continue growing larger And more expensive, in the face of almost universal criticism.
02:15:37.000Give us the brief synopsis, analysis, the basic architecture, where it came from, and then get into detail.
02:15:43.000Well, obviously, all through human history, some people have wanted, you know, more than their share, and they've wanted to keep other people in their place.
02:15:58.000It's a way A lot of people are, but somewhere at the beginning of the 19th century, and somewhere was a little state in northern Germany called Prussia, which once was world famous.
02:16:13.000I mean, Washington's aide-de-camp during the Revolutionary War was a Prussian, and Prussians have appeared To draw the border between Canada and the United States and the Northwest, there's a town around Philadelphia called King of Prussia that really showed the honor in which we held Prussia.
02:16:37.000Well, at the beginning of the 19th century, Prussia decided that to have efficient management, it needed to remove the ability of ordinary people to think.
02:16:54.000ordinary people to imagine and invent and they drew on an ancient system that had been more or less constructed by philosophers since Plato called universal schooling they had to force it at bayonet point or you know under pain of the law because other This is not debatable.
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02:22:05.000Again, it hasn't been educated, so they don't know.
02:22:07.000They haven't been taught the joy of learning, how exciting it is by design.
02:22:10.000It's taught to be by rote, to regurgitate the kindergarten system, to actually make soldiers that would march into bayonet lines.
02:22:18.000And that was expanded out to industry, so they took that military-style training and brought it into the industry.
02:22:24.000And now they're getting it finally honed, as you know, down to specific career-based Okay, we're in Prussia now, and the year is 1819, and for the first time in human history, a successful universal system of forced schooling is in place.
02:22:34.000to teach you how to not have critical thinking.
02:22:36.000Continue with the history. - Okay, we're in Prussia now, and the year is 1819, and for the first time in human history, a successful universal system of forced schooling is in place.
02:22:52.000Yeah, the teachers' college will find a lot of earlier attempts, including in New England, to do this, Not one of them ever worked, because there was too much common sense around.
02:23:04.000But Prussia wasn't reluctant to use bayonets.
02:23:08.000So for the first time in human history, we have this thing up and running by 1819.
02:23:14.000Ten years later, it's running like clockwork.
02:23:18.000Prussia, which has no natural resources, a small population, is the fourth richest country on Earth.
02:23:26.000And it's population marches into battle without argument.
02:23:31.000So everybody who was involved in trying to get the same system in the United States made the trip to Prussia And studied the system.
02:23:44.000And it's only one county today of Germany.
02:24:31.000By every major country on earth, as far away as Japan, as I said, everyone involved in schooling in the United States comes back from Prussia.
02:24:45.000For folks that don't know, that's the kindergarten system, and that's our whole form of education.
02:25:22.000They're getting kids at age three now into pre-kindergarten here.
02:25:27.000And now they're saying, oh, parents, we know you're working hard.
02:25:31.000We have after-school programs till eight at night, so they have them all the time.
02:25:34.000The CIA of course funded the modern feminist movement, they admit it, it's now declassified, so the mother couldn't be there even in the afternoon to take care of them, so you get double taxpayers, so the parents are completely removed.
02:25:46.000Then the leadership model males, these are federal documents that speak up, you drug them.
02:25:51.000The family is, without thinking about it, it's the biggest obstacle in the path to create a universal utopia, which is the ultimate goal.
02:26:04.000But the family, because it awakens these powerful, irrational feelings, irrational meaning that some manager can't predict which way love is going to take you, The family itself has to be disintegrated, and the payoff, the bribe for extending schooling is, well look, we'll put your kids in the hands of experts and you can have a little time off etc
02:26:32.000let's just boil it down and give me your take on this and the state has said this that that the family's competition to the state the state wants the children the state wants to be the boss and you owe fealty and allegiance to your blood to your family they can't have that well that's precisely it and in places like prussia this was written into legislation that the state owned the children That's not my interpretation.
02:27:04.000Through the 19th century, the United States attempts were made to write that into legislation, and there are records, Alex, quite a few, of courts reaching that determination.
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02:35:45.000Going back to our guest, Who I really appreciate coming on, John Taylor Gatto.
02:36:01.000Go through how it was set up, what happened, what we face today and hopefully solutions to educate the public to get out of it, to extricate ourselves out of it.
02:36:12.000Let me start by telling your audience that If you go to my website, my big book, Underground History of American Education, which you can buy in bookstores for $35 is up on my website.
02:36:40.000So take a deep breath, but you'll find all of this information I'm giving you now documented, and many, many times more.
02:36:51.000So what we are is back at the beginning of the 19th century, and I'll run through this real quick, and this little military state of Prussia, for the first time in human history, forces all the young of its ordinary population to go to school, and the country almost immediately becomes
02:37:15.000The companies become more prosperous, the army becomes more successful because the leaders, the managers, think for everybody.
02:37:26.000So Prussia is now studied all over the world.
02:37:50.000See, if you don't have employees who argue with you or say, no, I won't do that, You're bound to be more efficient.
02:37:58.000Now, it is a kind of short-term efficiency, but... Because very soon everything degenerates and falls apart, and then you have no brains to pull from in the next generation.
02:38:09.000Exactly, and that's what's happening to us.
02:38:12.000My dad's a pretty high-level executive in healthcare.
02:38:15.000I'd say he's one of the top thousand brains in healthcare in the country.
02:38:20.000He gets sent to these $5,000 to $10,000 seminars.
02:38:24.000One day he called me from the Four Seasons here in Austin.
02:38:28.000I forget the guy's name, he's a real famous guy, and he said, the New World Order has destroyed everyone's brains with the Prussian model.
02:38:34.000My dad called me from out in the hall going, it's incredible, it's like six.
02:38:37.000And he said, he said, the guy says that our models destroyed everyone, so now we don't have anyone to pull from except the homeschoolers, but we've got to keep it secret for management, because we've got to keep this other system in place, but they admitted that it's, they've overdone it.
02:38:52.000Well, let me give your listeners a piece of mathematical proof of what you just said.
02:38:59.000In 1950, the United States had 90% of all the patents for invention issued in the planet Earth.
02:39:10.000Now we're down in the low 30s and dropping fast.
02:39:16.000Because once you destroy this imagination, which was specifically recommended by some names I'm going to give you so you can verify this independently, but But all of the big thinkers who led to the schooling we know said, first you have to destroy the imagination of ordinary people, or they'll think up ways to escape this, or get around this.
02:39:40.000But once the imagination was gone, all that stream of invention... It's the engine of innovation, of creativity, and of rebellion.
02:39:51.000Yes, I mean, and it was certainly a source of Of incredible wealth.
02:39:57.000I'm invited to speak about half a dozen times so far by the Chinese government.
02:40:02.000And I've been in all different parts of China.
02:40:05.000And the funny thing is, is the three American businesses which clearly dominate China, that's really amusing in a way, are all built around imagination.
02:40:19.000I'll tell you, every Chinese I saw was playing American computer games while they were sitting in a McDonald's eating, I don't mean this too critically, but eating pieces of meat that I'll tell you in human history nobody would eat except slaves.
02:40:38.000But anyway, all the movies, all the traveling acts at the big hotels, they're all American because the imagination is Gone in China.
02:40:48.000They can recruit hundreds of millions of people to, you know, work around the clock for $2, but they can't, they steal our patents.
02:41:30.000Yes, well let me get back though to Prussia.
02:41:33.000So Prussia is studied all over the world by ambitious nations including the United States and the lessons how to do this to your population are brought back
02:41:47.000The trouble in the United States was, as Abraham Lincoln said in 1859 to the Wisconsin Agricultural Association, virtually everyone in the United States, 75% of the population, had an independent livelihood.
02:42:04.000They were small farmers, they were entrepreneurs, they were dressmakers, they were traveling entertainers.
02:42:10.000And they didn't buckle under because they weren't tied to some bureaucratic ladder of jobs.
02:42:18.000So it took a long time, and what it took was several crushing inflations, financial panics, and several big wars to pull this off under the cover of these wars and financial panics.
02:42:40.000Institutional schooling was set up to deliver the same kind of mindless or semi-mindless citizenry that Prussia had enjoyed.
02:42:53.000And now we see the average American, one-fifth, can't find the U.S.
02:43:05.000It's way beyond what the newspapers cover.
02:43:08.000That's what Orwell talked about, though.
02:43:09.000He had discovered this, how they were destroying language, reducing it by design.
02:43:13.000It's like people listening to us right now either have escaped this or a new listener who's been under this control can't even understand us right now.
02:43:21.000Well, I must add to your Orwell illusion, that Orwell was in the outer fringes of this thing when it was happening.
02:43:32.000So he didn't discover it, he actually listened to the people planning this.
02:43:37.000And when he wrote 1984, which all the American papers said had to be about the Soviet Union, he was talking about London and England.
02:43:52.000He wrote letters where he said that, because he'd been a secret policeman in India, then he'd fought against the fascists in Spain, then he'd been a propagandist for BBC during the war, and he finally figured out they were controlling it all.
02:44:07.000Well, it was his BBC contacts who were rather proud of what they were doing.
02:44:13.000Really, the whole idea, I mean we call part of that group now the Fabian Socialists, but the idea was that biologically, you and I and about 95% of the population are permanently inferior I want to source that for you so that anyone who says this is wild talk can check it for themselves.
02:44:36.000It was Charles Darwin who said that in 1871 in the book called Descent of Man.
02:44:43.000He said only a few of the human race are evolving.
02:45:55.000The Darwin family wasn't just a wealthy family.
02:46:00.000They were among the supreme fortunes on planet Earth.
02:46:04.000So rather than thinking of Charles Darwin as a scholar speaking to other scholars,
02:46:11.000You're talking about a man who was in the inner circle around the British throne, who had fantastic wealth, Galton also, and spoke to, you know, dukes and earls and heads of industry, so that... And plus, their idea of the elite being supermen and us being dogs, that was already the elite's ideas for thousands of years, so they tailored a science to fit into that elitist approach.
02:46:57.000And he'll say, people are frozen into these categories.
02:47:01.000The whole idea that they can get out of these categories is just nuts.
02:47:06.000So, but from Plato it goes to a very, very important theological work of the 15th century.
02:47:15.000It goes to John Calvin, and Calvin says there's so many of these inferior people damned by God before they're born, that's predestination, that we can't lock them up or police them.
02:47:28.000We're going to have to teach them how to police themselves, and we'll do that by establishing universal schooling.
02:47:36.000So after Calvin says what Plato said philosophically, Calvin said theologically, just a short time later, about a hundred and fifty years later, the big gun in this, and I'm going to give your readers a book.
02:47:55.000I'm talking about a Dutch philosopher named Spinoza, S-P-I-N-O-Z-A, who's carried in American colleges as one of the most liberal philosophers who ever lived.
02:48:10.000What you have to read is the same book that Jefferson and the early American founders read.
02:48:17.000It has a Latin name, but give me a chance to get it out, because you can get it in the library.
02:48:22.000It's called Tractate, Tractatus Theologico-Politicus, and in that, after, I guess you've got a break coming up.
02:48:31.000Final segment, and listen, we're going to have to get you up for two hours, maybe tomorrow, the next day, sir.
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02:53:16.000But send out a mass email about how you can read it, and you tell people, if you care about your children, you'll learn how you were dumbed down, and our parents were dumbed down, and their parents were dumbed down.
02:53:24.000We only got about four minutes left, sir, and the transmission's over, but I'm gonna have a producer call you right now at the end of the show and set you up for two hours tomorrow or the next day.
02:53:32.000I'm very impressed with your research.
02:53:37.000John, kind of give us a preview of what's coming up kind of a condensed view in three minutes of where it's going where it went in the future up until present and then we'll get into that next time you're on with us what happened after this string of if i say great minds you know what i mean Through human history, said from different perspectives that most people were trash or garbage or even dangerous.
02:54:04.000What happened was that the American economy, which once had been an economy of independent livelihood, was deliberately converted to a big corporation, industrial economy.
02:54:19.000Basically, if I say by two men, it's more like 22.
02:54:24.000But if you know what Andrew Carnegie did and what John D. Rockefeller did, you can then generate what the rest of them did because they all worked together.
02:54:35.000Through their foundations, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie imported the Prussian system into the United States, bribed in a gentlemanly fashion, bribed the right people to give it its stride, There were a few setbacks, but it always moved forward, and generation by generation, The population became what it was supposed to be.
02:55:03.000We crammed, without religious imagination or cause, without independence or an inner life, looking for, if not a handout, looking to be patted on the head and said, good job.
02:55:17.000They had to convert the independent American population into one that would fit into a corporate ladder.
02:55:47.000Okay, I'm going to have my producer call you right now, and then we'll go through what happened from 1900 until now, and then where this goes in the future.
02:55:53.000Of course, then they get us all in debt, and it's all about making us dependent.