Ron Paul's son Rand Paul joins Alex Jones on the show to talk about the philosophy of liberty and the Ron Paul Blimp. Also, 9/11 victims lawyers blast ground zero toxins in court, as the full magnitude of the cover-up lies in court. Former CIA interrogator: We carried out torture because the White House told us to do so.
00:01:01.000Maybe some things You haven't heard out there about the Congressman and also the blimp that's set to launch in the next few days, as well as the Ron Paul blimp tour the East Coast, as the money bomb coming up Sunday.
00:01:31.000That's who it's most deadly acting upon.
00:01:36.000Also, this came out, 9-11 victims lawyers blast ground zero toxic air lies in court.
00:01:44.000As the truth, the full magnitude of the cover-up, how they premeditatedly didn't even try to give the firefighters, police, and emergency workers the protective breathing apparatus that they needed.
00:01:55.000Former CIA interrogator, we carried out torture because the White House told us to do so, ordered us to do so.
00:02:02.000We already have the memos and the orders.
00:02:04.000We already knew this, but now they're testifying in Congress to this, and we have some clips coming up.
00:02:09.000One of those clips, Guantanamo legal advisor, Brigadier General, refuses to say that Iranians waterboarding Americans would be tortured.
00:02:17.000They're saying, not going to answer that question.
00:02:22.000Well, it's in the CIA training manual as torture.
00:02:25.000It's in the 500-year-old French Inquisition manuals.
00:02:35.000Housing slump damages state revenue, report states.
00:02:39.000Now, we covered this a few weeks ago when it first broke, but now we're seeing some of the aftermath.
00:02:43.000As states are told, hey, that AAA corporate paper you bought, those government investments and private investments, that stuff's toilet paper.
00:02:52.000And they're even telling them now that they can't give them all their money back, despite the fact that the contracts they signed with them stated that if it was improperly rated, they could cash out for the original amount they put in.
00:03:06.000Also, a great story from truthnews.us by Kurt Nemo that I want to try to spend some time covering.
00:03:11.000DARPA's control freak technology going over some of these systems they're putting in place across the planet.
00:03:19.000But first off, when we get back, when Texas Governor Rick Perry this year went to Istanbul, Turkey to meet with the Bilderberg Group for their, what, 54th meeting, when he traveled there, we pointed out that any time someone is... only a few guests are brought each year.
00:03:42.000About 110 are actually elite members of Bilderberg, another 15 or so are guests.
00:03:50.000And that with Gordon Brown, with Tony Blair, with Bill Clinton, with George Herbert Walker Bush, if you get taken there while you're a Congressman or Member of Parliament or a Governor, you are going to be El Presidente, or they are going to push you for El Presidente.
00:04:05.000And we pointed this out, and now it's in the news.
00:04:10.000Not Rick Perry running for President, Rick Perry for Vice President.
00:04:17.000So, we're going to be discussing this, and he gave a speech yesterday.
00:04:20.000I have the transcript here, and he said, uh, well, since there's no Texan on the ballot, we've had so many Texans run for president or been president, I think it's New York's turn.
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00:08:02.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:09.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:15.000We're about to plunge directly into vital news and information across the planet right here in the United States and from right here in Austin deep in the heart of Texas where we're transmitting to you from concerning Lord Perry.
00:08:30.000I do just want to encourage everybody that UPS has now told us because of the huge volume of Christmas They can normally ship anywhere in the U.S. in five days.
00:08:40.000Most places in two days or three days, but it could take as long as six days to get your package if you're in rural areas or if you are in places like Alaska.
00:08:55.000Because it ships out of Texas, and we have a map actually hanging on the wall there for...
00:08:59.000Four or five states around us, it's one day.
00:09:02.000And then states around that, it's two days.
00:09:03.000And some of the French states, it's three days.
00:10:50.000If you're Canadian, you've got until really Friday to order to ensure you get it, and that's with UPS.
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00:11:01.000The Postal Service, even though we ship priority, is just horrible.
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00:11:27.000I'll tell you right now, I don't get off into the whole massive, you know, pagan side of Christmas with Santa Claus and the rest of it.
00:11:35.000Well, I think my wife has snuck in wicked snowmen and snowmen cakes and things in the house, which I don't mind eating.
00:11:42.000But the point is, it's a great reason to educate people.
00:11:46.000It's a great reason to give them an endgame, to give them a loose change final cut, to give them a Club Bilderberg.
00:11:53.000And Christmas is also a wonderful time to remember Jesus and His birth.
00:11:57.000And at the same time, to also spend time with your family.
00:12:58.000And I'm not buying anybody anything for Christmas unless it's water filters, which I always give to people that don't have them in the family.
00:13:06.000Though I've given them to everybody now.
00:13:09.000Or if it's documentary films and books.
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00:14:18.000Before that it's high quality, and then you go back three plus years ago, it's still better than Google or YouTube, but it's not very good.
00:14:24.000We've got a project now to Put all the old videos and tapes and shows up in the new super high quality.
00:14:47.000And PrisonPlanet.tv, I just want to thank all the members of PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:14:55.000For their support, we couldn't do what we're doing without it.
00:14:57.000I couldn't expand the websites, I couldn't have hired Kurt Nemo, I couldn't have Steve Watson and Paul Watson and Ryan Slick Eisen and Aaron Dykes and Mike Nelson and Trey Kincaid and all the other people that are in here.
00:15:13.000I don't know if they want their names on there, but Amanda and, of course, Michelle and Weldon Henson and Dwayne Cooch.
00:16:25.000Because people in the past have done a few national campaigns where they call up and harass them, four or five phone calls.
00:16:33.000It's not a big deal, but we just don't like to have our stations get bugged.
00:16:37.000We want you to promote them locally if you're listening to them.
00:16:40.000Also, other competing networks that have parasited off the back of Genesis years ago would go and try to go after the sponsors, go after the affiliates, so we don't post them.
00:16:52.000But I should get on air and thank all these affiliates.
00:16:55.000And I, we just got an affiliate in New Mexico, affiliates in Tennessee, 13:30 a.m.
00:17:59.000It signals a new phase of arrogance by these haughty individuals when they go on C-SPAN and call for new world order and world government, where they We released some of the first documents from the Bilderberg Group to the BBC three years ago, going, yeah, we set up the European Union in 49, and then officially set it up in 57.
00:18:23.000Yeah, we're setting up the North American Union.
00:18:25.000But then if you say you don't like it, we say you're crazy, and it doesn't exist.
00:18:28.000Remember, Bilderberg didn't exist, and then it was in the Statesman, Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle, and CNN, and local TV all over the state.
00:18:38.000And all those millions of people that heard that nut talk about that imaginary group.
00:18:42.000I remember 12 years ago on radio, getting calls going, can I have cheese on that Builder Burger?
00:18:48.000I don't know why that's the joke people always throw at her.
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00:18:59.000America's run by us, the people, yeah!
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00:25:36.000Regarding his endorsement, Perry says it's the first time in 20-something years he's actually had to think deeply about who to support.
00:25:44.000There was a Texan on the ballot all those other years, and the decision was pretty much made at that particular time, whether it was Bush or whether it was Phil Graham.
00:25:54.000Well, there is a Texan on the ballot this time.
00:25:56.000His name is Ron Paul, campaigning in Iowa today.
00:25:59.000But he is a holdover from the Libertarian Party, and after a bit of a surge, is now slipping in the polls.
00:26:05.000This past weekend, the Libertarian National Committee voted to take Ron Paul back as a Libertarian candidate for president if he decides the GOP run just isn't working out for him.
00:26:16.000We're sending a message to Ron Paul and his supporters that if the Republican Party doesn't want anything to do with Ron Paul, we sure would be happy to have him run for office again as a Libertarian.
00:26:26.000Paul, you might remember, ran for President unsuccessfully as a Libertarian candidate back in 1988.
00:26:31.000His campaign told the Libertarian National Committee, thanks but no thanks, Ron Paul will continue his campaign as a Republican candidate.
00:26:40.000Benedict, who you just heard from, says there are a couple of reasons that Libertarians will not And that's because they're scum.
00:26:46.000That's because they're little, greedy, liberal scum in the Libertarian Party.
00:26:48.000One, he says there simply just aren't enough libertarians around to make that big of a difference in GOP primaries.
00:26:53.000And secondly, he doesn't want it to impact what he calls the future of the Libertarian Party.
00:27:19.000And they've done this throughout history.
00:27:20.000They'll claim that there's some court hearing to decide whether somebody's property can be taken, and then the court will switch the date to five hours earlier or a day before, and then you show up on the wrong day and they say, you didn't know?
00:28:04.000You know, like say you own a restaurant and they say, oh, Uh, you know, let's say the restaurant's closed for a day for maintenance and you tell your customers, oh no, that's shut down now by the health department.
00:28:14.000Or, oh no, that car dealership isn't open anymore.
00:28:18.000Or, oh no, they're not doing too good over there.
00:28:22.000Oh, Ron Paul, after a surge in the polls, he's not doing too well.
00:28:26.000Actually, every major poll I've seen, unless it's these stage polls where they don't ask about Ron Paul, they ask about other candidates, never say his name, and then say, oh, Ron Paul didn't even show up in the poll!
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00:35:20.000But in some, where they say he doesn't even show up, they just list four or five candidates, and then there's no other.
00:35:29.000Or there'll be a none of the above, and they'll just say none of the above.
00:35:32.000See, and then you hear, oh, Ron Paul, he's not doing well.
00:35:36.000He has won every TV poll, which are per telephone or per IP address, except one Fox News one where he was winning by more than 12 points until they closed the poll, and then an hour later said, oh, guess what?
00:36:42.000He tried to legalize all illegal aliens, as the mayor of New York, Bloomberg, is doing right now.
00:36:50.000He is, again, pro-abortion, pro-open borders, totally anti-gun, total police state supporter.
00:36:58.000But he gets endorsed by Pat Robertson, who actually said in a statement, well, that the pro-life issue isn't as important as his anti-terror, you know, the Islamofascists.
00:37:07.000Yeah, the Islamofascists killed 50 million people?
00:37:15.000So, you have Giuliani, who literally is a ringer, and he's just like Kerry against Bush, but now they're passing the baton, appointing a bunch of Clinton people to the Justice Department, to the State Department, and to the White House.
00:37:31.000The White House is advising Hillary, writing her speeches.
00:37:34.000By the way, the source on that is Reuters, the Dallas Observer, and a half-dozen other.
00:37:40.000I was on a syndicated show in North Carolina, and a White House person called in, gave a White House writer's name.
00:37:47.000I don't know if it was really him, but he sounded like it.
00:37:49.000And he just said, how dare you lie and say that!
00:39:12.000The point I'm trying to get to here is that if there was ever a doubt of how bankrupt and wicked the Republican Party is, they stand on no issues.
00:39:47.000That's nothing compared to running white slavery rings, or bombarding countries for 17 years, or starting wars, or putting cancer viruses in the vaccines, or vetoing laws that would ban mercury in vaccines.
00:39:59.000You know, that's the stuff that matters in the final equation.
00:40:45.000And I don't want to hear it from you anymore.
00:40:47.000I mean, we had people get really mad at us, and we even lost a few affiliates, when Pat Robertson went on air in 2000 and said, China's doing what it has to do with forced abortion in China.
00:40:59.000And then his clarification on CNN was, yeah, I mean, they got too many people.
00:41:03.000And people called up saying, I'm of the devil, maybe Pat's right.
00:43:13.000You have this whole thing swirling around.
00:43:18.000And what do we get in the middle of it?
00:43:20.000We get the Republicans thinking nothing of their conservative base and saying, you know what?
00:43:26.000We'll stick the pacifier of the war on your mouth and you can suck on it and go nom nom nom.
00:43:31.000That's right, don't let the Islamo-fascists get you while we leave the border wide open and give everybody driver's licenses and welfare cards.
00:43:41.000We've got blips going up over all the major cities, and we're scanning your face everywhere, and scanning your driver's license and your license plates, and we're gonna try to force you to take inoculations, and the NSA is listening to you, and torture is good, and Blackwater's gonna operate domestically, and we're gonna pass a bunch of new gun laws, and isn't it conservative?
00:44:51.000He has the chutzpah, the gall, the bravado, the machismo to go to the meeting and openly announce it and then guess who a bunch of the Bilderberg group members are?
00:46:24.000The North American Union funding mechanism is the Napa Superhighway, and the first major leg of its hub is from Kansas City through Oklahoma down into Texas.
00:46:36.000So if you're in Missouri or Kansas or Oklahoma or Texas, you are absolute front lines.
00:46:40.000On up into Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, it's the whole deal.
00:46:43.000And that's just one of 83 of these they're grabbing.
00:46:46.000They're grabbing the roads, saying it doesn't exist while they do it.
00:46:55.000And now I've got three different news articles saying Perry is being considered as his running mate.
00:47:00.000I told you four months ago, five months ago, However long ago he went, I said, you watch, he's going to end up being a VP, or he's going to end up running for President.
00:47:09.000People say, oh, we've already had too many Texans.
00:47:11.000But see, that'll balance the ticket out.
00:47:13.000Having a New Yorker, but don't worry, Northerners always do that.
00:47:17.000Southern, when a Southerner runs, they almost always go for a Vice President who's a Northerner.
00:47:23.000Clinton didn't do that, he went with the TMC and broke that tradition.
00:47:31.000So you put it together, it's a perfect move, and I predict now... I mean, it's a 95% chance.
00:47:38.000I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not gonna be.
00:47:41.000If we make a big enough fuss about this, maybe.
00:47:45.000I predict now that Governor Rick Perry is gonna be the vice presidential running mate, bringing Texas, the West, and the South in for that little monster, Giuliani.
00:47:56.000Giuliani, that effeminate twit, That transvestite with Rick Perry.
00:48:10.000I mean, that's who we end up with, ladies and gentlemen, running against Hillary, and then those two can take the fall, but that further positions Perry for four years from now, eight years from now.
00:48:22.000And by the way, they vacation together, they're constantly together.
00:48:25.000It's probably going to be Perry Schwarzenegger, Perry President, Schwarzenegger Vice President, if they're able to amend that.
00:48:31.000And after the big nuke attack, or whatever they're going to launch, believe me, they're going to have constitutional conventions, and they're going to trash everything.
00:48:38.000I mean, you think you've been raped now.
00:48:40.000You think your credit cards are maxed out now.
00:48:43.000You know, my uncle lives out in the country, and the swan truck comes by.
00:48:46.000You know, he goes to the grocery store every few weeks, but the swan truck comes by once a week.
00:48:51.000And the swan truck guy told him it's the worst he's ever seen business in years and years driving.
00:48:55.000Everybody's credit cards are maxed out.
00:48:56.000They're saving their money to buy fuel to drive to work in East Texas.
00:49:04.000Who knows if they'll even have routes out to the country anymore.
00:49:07.000That's just another little indicator on the ground.
00:49:38.000I mean, this guy was for complete, total amnesty of all illegal aliens.
00:49:46.000This guy I mean, if he was a Democrat, fine, be for gay marriage.
00:49:50.000The point is, he's the polar opposite of a Republican.
00:49:54.000And they're going to bring Huckabee out to try to steal votes from Paul as a counterbalance, because Paul was number two or number three or number one, and I even commissioned one of them with Zogby, number two or number three or number one, in all the polls of religious conservatives.
00:50:08.000And now Huckabee is stealing some of his, but Ron Paul's already gained so much trajectory, he's going almost straight up right now.
00:50:14.000He would break through, he would get the nomination, he would win.
00:50:18.000He's the only candidate that could beat Hillary.
00:50:19.000I saw more numbers and more data on that today, where they're admitting that the entire Republican field, and then they mention all the big guys, will totally fail because of their pro-war stance and other issues, and that people are sick of Republicans.
00:50:40.000Go ahead and go for your mob boss, open borders, Uh, guy, Andrew Bilderberg, guy, who couldn't even get 39% of the vote in Texas, but still is our governor.
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00:55:03.000They laugh at us all the way to the bank.
00:55:07.000Shifting gears, you know, they have this stealth integration of Europe.
00:55:10.000There is a European Union, despite what some people want to say, it does exist.
00:55:16.000They say there's no North American Union being funded despite thousands of documents and statements and Fox and Canadian Prime Ministers saying it and government officials in the U.S.
00:55:31.000Just like they said the EU didn't exist until it was too late.
00:55:35.000Well, England, for the last eight years, they've always said they're going to have a public referendum, but then when the polls show 75, 85, 90 percent, depending on the referendum against it, they always pull it.
00:55:47.000The face-scanning cameras, the riot police are in, you talk to people on the street, police come up and ask you why you're talking to people.
00:55:53.000I mean, it's total Nazi Germany, total Soviet Union.
00:56:29.000Gordon Brown will sign EU Treaty in private.
00:56:32.000Gordon Brown has announced that he will travel to Portugal to sign the controversial European Union Reform Treaty.
00:56:38.000Doubt has been thrown on Mr. Brown's attendance at the signing ceremony in Lisbon on Thursday because of his commitment to give evidence to high-ranking House of Commons committee that morning.
00:56:49.000Reports of his possible absence sparked criticism that the Prime Minister was trying to Disassociate himself from the EU plan.
00:56:56.000On a policy level, it would also have meant he missed negotiations between heads of state taking place on the sidelines of the ceremony.
00:57:06.000And it goes on, and here in my stack, I printed it, but I don't see it, was a story four days ago where the Brits were demonstrating and protesting and being told demonstrations aren't allowed now.
00:57:15.000It's freedom, just like Soviet Union, just like Russia today.
00:59:06.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:18.000Dr. Rand Paul, Ron Paul's son, is joining us in the next segment to talk about his father, to talk about the campaign, to talk about a lot of political issues, the big money bomb coming up Sunday.
00:59:33.000We've only got him for about five minutes right now.
00:59:35.000It's Trevor Lyman, the guy that took a little internet idea he saw by another great mind on YouTube for the 5th of November money bomb and pushed it out using his marketing skills as an internet entrepreneur with successful companies.
00:59:47.000And you picked up the ball as freedom lovers out there.
00:59:51.000We raised 4.2 plus mil, over a million since then, directly contributed and attributed to the work of our grassroots operations, headed up by Mr. Lyman.
01:00:02.000And now the Ron Paul blimp, who is Ron Paul, will be launching soon.
01:01:05.000And we're waiting for the next banner, which we're going to fly in tomorrow.
01:01:09.000And then put that on overnight and hopefully fall goes as well and we really don't want to take any more time than this.
01:01:15.000We're going to launch Friday morning and the crew has already said that they're going to fly straight and to try to get us to Boston and we will make it we can make it absolutely to Boston on the 16th.
01:01:26.000The only thing that could Uh, play a role is the weather.
01:01:30.000The blimps do have limits to what they can handle, and there is, uh, I've heard, uh, nor'easter brewing, but these things change.
01:01:37.000Uh, we could be all clear, but definitely, no matter what, we will be in the air during the 16th.
01:01:42.000So when that money comes in, wherever the blimp is, they'll want footage of it, and we'll, we'll have that.
01:02:27.000We were just, everything's been, you know, we're trying to, from conception to in the air in about two to three weeks, and it's a decent project, a decent-sized project.
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01:07:02.000Well, a month ago we launched the first money bomb and raised 4.2 plus mil.
01:07:08.000Well over a million dollars plus has been raised since then.
01:07:12.000Las Vegas is saying three to one odds in favor of Ron Paul and the grassroots campaign raising more than six million this weekend.
01:07:22.000When we conceived the idea here on air for the second money bomb with Trevor Lyman, I had pushed for the 15th and 16th because I saw things really build on November 5th.
01:07:35.000I think two days would cause more momentum, and that's what Trevor wanted to do, but kind of the group mind out there, which we kind of just let the campaign and the people, the grassroots, do what they want, said, no, we want just the 16th, that one day.
01:09:02.000You know, you mentioned Kerry having one of those fundraising records.
01:09:05.000What's extraordinary about Ron Paul is that my dad's raising it, and I don't think one person has given us money who wants something from government.
01:09:14.000They want to be left alone, but you know, the people who gave to Kerry Are people who get big contracts from government, the people who thought he was going to be the nominee, knew he was going to be the nominee, and they're buying influence.
01:09:26.000So it's extraordinary that our people give money because they want freedom, they want liberty, they want to be left alone, but they're not people who want a contract from government.
01:09:34.000There isn't one PAC that's given us any money that wants something from government.
01:09:39.000You know, talking to you, you sound so much like your dad.
01:09:57.000And most people, I mean, I've known your father for about 15 years, been very blessed to.
01:10:03.000You've known him, of course, since conception.
01:10:05.000Tell us about your father, his background, some stories, you know, some things about his life, things that shaped him, and then how that shaped you and the rest of your family because you're also involved fighting, you know, the IRS and for tax fairness and the rest of it.
01:10:19.000I believe you're the chairman of that there in your state, aren't you?
01:10:23.000Well, you know, when I think back, I get these questions more often now about childhood and things about childhood.
01:10:28.000One of the things I remember is, you know, as a kid, I always liked listening to the adult conversation in politics, you know, ever since I was a small child.
01:10:36.000But we had this one friend that would come over that sticks in my memory, and his name was Pete Karpenko.
01:10:41.000He had actually fought in the Czar's Army.
01:10:44.000He was 14 years old when he fought in the Czar's Army against the Bolsheviks.
01:10:49.000And what always struck me was that You know, people think, oh, who are these people who support capitalism?
01:10:55.000Are they the rich and wealthy, the big business?
01:10:59.000They were Ukrainian farmers and they had like a half an acre or less that they grew their own vegetables on.
01:11:05.000But they just knew instinctively that it was their land and that they weren't going to grow it for the commune.
01:11:10.000They knew that they didn't like the fact that the people around them quit working.
01:11:14.000Once everybody worked for the commune, only a few people worked and the rest just lived off the work of the others.
01:11:20.000But it's always interesting that the great defenders of capitalism, I still think it's true in our day and age, is that they're not big business.
01:11:28.000They're the little guy who has a small business or may work for somebody else, but wants to be left alone, wants to keep more of the fruits of his labor.
01:11:36.000Well, big business, and I'm talking about the mega fortune 500, loves big government.
01:11:47.000Yeah, as a child I was always perplexed by it, because I'd see these wealthy people in our country who gave to both sides, and I was always like, who could give $2,000 to the Republican candidate and the Democrat candidate?
01:12:00.000And it's that they don't care, they're buying influence.
01:12:02.000And that's been the whole problem with our society, and corporations have really done that.
01:12:07.000I mean, you look it out in Iowa, where all the candidates are afraid to be against ethanol, But do you think it's mom and pop getting an ethanol subsidy from the federal government?
01:12:15.000Heck no, it's ConAgra or somebody that has, you know, 100,000 acres out in Iowa.
01:12:27.000You know, I tell people this is true even in environmental matters, because we have people who are opening up to us on the war issue, opening up to us on personal freedoms, but then they're like, well, what do we do about the environment?
01:12:39.000And I try to tell them that, you know, you'd much rather your environment be controlled more locally because who do you think has more influence in Washington, D.C.?
01:12:47.000You know, Dow Chemicals people, their lobbyists trying to decide how many parts per million is appropriate pollution, or the little guy wanting to do something for the environment.
01:12:56.000So even for things like the environment, I think we have a message to people that, you know, you can control what happens to your environment probably much better at a local level than you can in Washington.
01:13:22.000And now the Australian Medical Association is proposing basically a one-child policy, the same thing our government signed treaties with China to do back in the '70s.
01:13:31.000So this whole carbon tax thing is nothing but a whole new layer of government in our lives.
01:13:37.000Right, and I don't think there are people who truly care about the environment.
01:13:40.000I think what's interesting is in the last two weeks I've met with several people who are homeschoolers, but they're also environmentalists.
01:13:48.000They're environmentalists in the way that they drink raw milk, they like to have grass-fed beef, but these are personal decisions they're making about their health and their family, and they don't want government to come in and intrude on what they eat.
01:14:03.000They're not left-wing, they're not right-wing, they're informed, they're intelligent, they want liberty.
01:14:09.000But really, I'm going to squeeze it out of you, because Ron won't do it, and Rand, you're not doing it either.
01:14:12.000Tell me something about your dad growing up.
01:14:14.000I mean, tell us about what really makes him tick.
01:14:18.000Well, let's say he's the kind of guy that gets up early in the morning, goes for a two or three mile walk, comes back, reads ten newspapers, you know, continues working on reading a book.
01:14:28.000He's probably one of the most well-read and well-informed politicians you'll ever see.
01:14:34.000I think because of that, you see when you stand up and give a speech, you can see him talk for 30 or 40 minutes without notes.
01:14:40.000And there's, you know, most of the other candidates speak for five minutes, say nothing, and it all comes from a teleprompter.
01:14:46.000So I think those are things that I know about him.
01:14:49.000I think he's a fairly quiet person at home.
01:14:53.000In the debates, I think you see him a little more tenacious because he's got to be to stand up for things, you know, in a fighting sort of mode.
01:15:01.000But I think he prefers actually an interview mode, more like talking with you or talking with an interviewer.
01:15:06.000And it doesn't have to always be a sympathetic interviewer, but he wants honest questions and honest dialogue in order to try to enlighten People about the issues, but he's not someone who likes confrontation.
01:15:18.000And I think in Congress, most other congressmen will tell you that he's fairly well-liked, even though they will say they may not be voting with him.
01:15:25.000I think he is well-liked among his colleagues.
01:15:28.000Now, Wikipedia talks about his parents, whose parents were German immigrants, coming to Pittsburgh, and of course, Ron, five years old, working in the family dairy.
01:15:39.000And again, we've analyzed every political angle, every attack.
01:15:42.000I mean, this audience, this is the core of Ron Paul's support.
01:15:45.000That's why I'm trying to flesh Some things out that people don't know.
01:15:48.000I mean, is that accurate in Wikipedia and things about your dad five years old?
01:15:53.000His grandfather came to this country when he was 14, and his dad died.
01:15:58.000He came with him, and his dad died immediately.
01:15:59.000And the 14-year-old worked hard, sold vegetables.
01:16:02.000They had something they used to call truck farmers, and these were people that sort of had small trucks, and they transported produce from sort of the local farms to the little produce areas of the marketplace.
01:16:14.000And he worked hard and when he died, he had five acres and he gave one acre to each son.
01:16:20.000They all lived on the same road, Cresmont Drive and Green Tree, Pittsburgh, right around the suburb of Pittsburgh.
01:16:28.000They started a dairy in their garage and they kept it in their garage until the government made them move it out because the rules in the 1930s started getting more and more government involved with what you did with milk.
01:16:40.000And so, but they had actually the one of the first pasteurization machines in Pittsburgh.
01:16:44.000And so they were on the cutting edge of pasteurizing milk, which allowed milk to last longer and be distributed for longer distances.
01:16:54.000My mom always jokes that she was picked up for her first date in a milk truck.
01:16:59.000He always laughs about, you had to be pretty good at driving these things because the hills are pretty steep in Pittsburgh, but the way the clutch worked is you stood while you drove and you pushed the clutch straight down into the floorboard.
01:17:12.000I can't imagine doing that and trying to let off the clutch on a hill and shift into gear, but imagine that and your first date is in a milk truck.
01:17:26.000She had to have a pacemaker put in when they were in Iowa.
01:17:30.000She'd been having some spells for a couple years and then she had a spell there and fortunately they found the problem and you know the good thing about getting a pacemaker is you're much safer once they find out that problem you get the pacemaker because it can control your heart rhythm when your body's not doing it appropriately.
01:17:46.000Absolutely, that's what I've seen in the literature.
01:17:48.000Okay, Dr. Paul, thank you for sharing that background.
01:17:51.000Your father, we've got about 30 minutes left with you.
01:18:45.000We'll be right back, right here on the GCN Radio Network.
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01:23:23.000Rand, regardless of your father wins or not, and it's been said, but I'll say it again, he's injecting real issues into a dead campaign process with all the other candidates singing basically off the same sheet of music.
01:23:40.000It is also growing the grassroots and even the mainstream media and political analysts say this shows a major shift, a realignment, and that what your father's doing and what the people are doing is just the beginning Of the people not trusting the two political parties anymore, and trying to go back towards liberty.
01:23:59.000Well, I think you're exactly right, and I think it comes from both perspectives.
01:24:02.000You know, there's the traditional limited government type people from the conservative angle, then there's people coming from the liberal angle, from the libertarian angle, from all different angles that may not necessarily agree on everything, but they are sort of part of this leave me alone coalition, and they're fed up with the Republican Party.
01:24:19.000I mean, Republican Party platform's not that bad for the most part, but they have never adhered to it.
01:24:25.000I always make the comment, which I think is sort of appropriate, the Soviets used to always talk about five-year agricultural plans.
01:24:32.000It was always a joke, because no one believed them, and by year two or three they always had to redo all the numbers.
01:24:36.000But we always have presidents that are elected, most of them have been Republicans, who have a five-year plan for balancing the budget.
01:24:42.000Well, it's just like the Soviet agricultural plan.
01:24:45.000A year or two into it, they have to admit that they really had no intention of doing it.
01:24:49.000Then you have to change the numbers to try to sort of fit reality again.
01:24:53.000You know, one great thing about your father is that he is a stalwart.
01:24:58.000He does what he says he's going to do.
01:25:00.000You know, hence the name Dr. No, saying no to bad legislation.
01:25:05.000So he'd already booked months ago where he was going to be this weekend.
01:25:08.000It looks like right now, you were telling me during the break, he may not be able to be in Boston this weekend for the Tea Party, but his doppelganger Rand Paul is going to be there.
01:25:17.000Yeah, see, well, I'm sad that he's not going to be there.
01:25:20.000You know, I am glad that I get to give the big speech.
01:25:22.000So I've been preparing my speech for a couple of days now.
01:25:25.000See, most of the time if he's there, I get to give the introduction, you know, but I get to give the big thing this time, Seth.
01:25:31.000I think we'll have a thousand people or more there.
01:25:33.000The venue only holds about a thousand, but I have a feeling they're going to be turning people away, and I have this image in my mind of this Ron Paul blimp dumping tea into the bay, into the harbor.
01:25:44.000So this is really exciting what's going on.
01:25:48.000I was just up there Monday and Tuesday in New Hampshire, and it's hard sometimes to put into words, to transcribe, to describe sort of the energy of the grassroots.
01:25:59.000When I was up there I met Trevor Lyman for the first time.
01:26:01.000Here's a guy, never registered to vote, 37 years old, never voted, never participated in campaign, gets so enthralled by the Ron Paul liberty message that he's out there and helps us raise 4.3 million dollars in one day and now There's a reasonable chance.
01:26:17.000I mean, the media are looking at this and saying, there's a reasonable chance we raise $6 million in one day coming up.
01:26:23.000And Rand, I'm not tooting my own horn here.
01:26:26.000This is for the listeners out there on the 60-plus affiliates we've got who are listening to me, AMF and Shortwave Internet.
01:26:33.000Trevor Lyman woke up Well, here's a good example of how some of them are.
01:26:37.000He said some of this on air, but he didn't want the media to make a big deal out of it because they've already tried to demonize the Dr. Paul over me.
01:26:42.000But the point is, he wakes up off this show.
01:27:34.000Quits Google out in California and is working on this full-time.
01:27:37.000I think he works with Trevor on some of these ideas, like the blimp.
01:27:41.000I think they're also working on Operation Live free or die.
01:27:44.000And that's bringing in, they're trying to bring in between 500 and 1,000 people from outside of the state to come and help on the campaign.
01:27:54.000And I'm not sure if they're raising money.
01:27:56.000I think they've got houses to actually give people a place to stay and help people get there.
01:28:00.000Well, this has all the feelings of the Revolutionary War, but it's an info war.
01:28:05.000This electricity, this liberty, absolutely challenging the establishment like a swarm of X-Wings going in against the Death Star.
01:28:13.000Yeah, it is bigger than anybody ever imagined.
01:28:16.000It's bigger than my dad imagined it would be.
01:28:19.000It's bigger than I ever imagined it would be.
01:28:20.000I told Trevor when I met him yesterday, and we happened to be waiting in the airport last night, and I said, Trevor, you know, I read all your stuff.
01:28:28.000I saw that you were going to do this, and you know, I wasn't out there.
01:28:32.000I said, you know, I can't believe this is going to happen, and I just had almost forgot about it.
01:28:36.000I clicked back on the website, and it said two million.
01:28:38.000I clicked on it an hour later, it said four million.
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01:32:18.000We're talking to Dr. Rand Paul, one of the five great children that Dr. Ron Paul, the Congressman hailing from the great state of Texas, has had.
01:32:29.000And he is a eye surgeon, doctor, in his own right, ophthalmologist, and we are honored to have him with us for one more segment.
01:33:10.000Convinced that there was something wrong with the ticker because I could not imagine that much money coming in that fast.
01:33:16.000And it just amazes and boggles my mind.
01:33:20.000It's also amazing where it's coming from, too.
01:33:22.000I meet 17-year-old kids who are giving money.
01:33:25.000Who's ever heard of a 17-year-old kid who gives money to a political candidate?
01:33:29.000Yesterday, we had lunch in Portsmouth, and two parents were there with their 19-year-old, and they said, yeah, when he was 16, he turned us on to Ron Paul.
01:33:38.000You know, their kids are turning on the parents.
01:33:40.000I had the same episode at church here in town.
01:33:44.000Family came up to us and said, oh, yep, our 17-year-old has Ron Paul bumper stickers and knows all about him.
01:33:49.000He wants us to get involved with a campaign.
01:33:51.000My dad talks about teenagers coming to these rallies and saying, yeah, I brought my parents with me today.
01:33:57.000You know, what an extraordinary thing happening.
01:34:00.000You know, he gets up in one of my favorite lines that he does now.
01:34:03.000He gets up in front of the crowd and he'll say, looks like we've got a pretty diverse crowd here today.
01:34:08.000It looks like we might even have a few Republicans out there because we have so many people from different walks of life.
01:34:15.000I go into the office in Concord yesterday.
01:34:19.000And I said hello to the different people working the phones and one guy says, yeah, I was a Democrat until a month ago.
01:35:06.000There's a new stratagem, Fox News, national and local, and I've seen it in news articles being written.
01:35:13.000It's definitely a talking point of many they've tried on the congressman and of course the grassroots campaign to restore the republic, restore the liberty to this once great nation, and of course our name worldwide as well that's been drugged to the mud by the neocons and the liberals.
01:35:29.000Their new tactic is to say, yeah, Ron Paul was doing good, but he's stalled now, his numbers are going down, and the Libertarians are talking about him going over there, and, you know, it's just basically over for him.
01:35:39.000It's kind of like Mark Twain saying, rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated, and so they're really pulling out the stops now, just saying he's not a viable candidate, when his trajectory shows him going straight up.
01:35:56.000You know, we've doubled the amount we've raised each quarter.
01:35:58.000There's a very good chance, if this money bomb is successful, that we will raise more money in this quarter than any candidate, any Republican candidate.
01:36:07.000All the Republicans' numbers have gradually dwindled.
01:36:10.000They raised more in the first quarter than they did in the third quarter.
01:36:13.000So their numbers are dwindling, and right now we're almost up to $12 million without the money bomb.
01:36:18.000If we added the money bomb and we have $6 million, we're up to almost $18 million at that point.
01:36:24.000I think that will turn so many heads that Fox News won't be able to spin it any other way.
01:36:30.000They may try, but they won't be able to spin it any other way that raising that kind of money, particularly when he's getting one one-hundredth of the media time and he's not offering anything to anybody, no federal money for contracts or this and that, no special interest money.
01:36:45.000You know, to raise that kind of money from individuals who are given $20, $40, $50, $100, You know, it's extraordinary and the media is catching on to some of that.
01:36:56.000Well, I said this earlier, but I'm going to say it again because it's so key.
01:37:00.000Only Ron Paul of all the Republican candidates, and all the polls show this, it's elementary math, can beat Hillary Clinton.
01:37:07.000He's the only one that'll get Libertarians and Democrats and anti-war people and bring them over.
01:37:12.000And as Ron Paul's been saying on these television shows, he's been warning Republicans, hey, you're going to lose if you don't have an anti-war candidate, and I'm the only one on the Republican ticket.
01:37:40.000What is it like to see them just absolutely show their true colors?
01:37:45.000Well, I think it's just mostly disappointing for Pat Robertson because I think his followers will be really, really disappointed to see that it's more important for him to assassinate Chavez than it is to be supporting anybody who's socially conservative.
01:38:01.000So I just think it really, really does discredit to Robertson to have endorsed Giuliani.
01:38:06.000And I think that's what I hear throughout the Christian community.
01:38:10.000And really, Robertson will come out of this with almost no credibility.
01:38:13.000Well, he already said abortion was good in China in 2000.
01:38:15.000Yeah, I think, you know, maybe there's something going on there that we don't understand, but he's losing his credibility by it.
01:38:24.000Um, you know, I think it'll be interesting to see what happens, particularly the war issue.
01:38:28.000I think you're right that the war has become so unpopular, 65 to 70% of people against it.
01:38:35.000And on the Republican side, not only do they have any idea about ending the Iraq war, they all want to invade Iran next.
01:38:42.000I tell people in speeches, I say, you know, we're against the Iraq war.
01:38:45.000We have been to the beginning, but you know, we're also against the Iran war.
01:38:47.000You know, the one that hasn't started yet.
01:38:49.000So, um, You know, the thing is, I think people want to paint my father into some corner, but if you look at it intellectually, look at the evidence that Iran is not a threat.
01:39:01.000Iran cannot even refine their own gasoline.
01:39:04.000Over 50% of their gasoline is imported from Europe.
01:39:07.000General Abizaid, who's no left-wing nut, was head of the theater over there, retires recently, and he says, look, we should discourage them from having a nuclear weapon, but if they should get one, It is not necessary.
01:39:18.000They are not a threat to our national security.
01:39:20.000The CIA's own national assessment says they're not going to have one for eight years.
01:39:25.000Yeah, if we could just get Mike Huckabee to understand what that is.
01:39:27.000I'm not sure he knows what the National Intelligent Testament is.
01:40:14.000He's been talking about it intensely the last five years.
01:40:17.000Now Americans are just now realizing that the dollar is sinking.
01:40:22.000And could continue to sink to peso or ruble-like levels.
01:40:26.000And so that's another big point here, is you're right, your father is a historian, you know, late-trained, but I've talked to him many times, I've seen him on history, very accurate, very intelligent.
01:40:38.000He is self-trained in economics, gotten awards from the Von Mies Institute and other prestigious organizations for his contributions to economic thought.
01:40:46.000I mean, this guy, he's much smarter than John Kennedy.
01:40:49.000And I've analyzed the writings and speeches of Kennedy, and he was probably one of the smartest presidents this century.
01:40:54.000Bill Clinton's very smart, but he's also very evil.
01:40:57.000Your father is more intelligent than both those men.
01:41:03.000Can you talk about the economic stance?
01:41:05.000Well, I think one of the things that I always mention to people about the dollars is, in very simple terms, we import much more than we export.
01:41:12.000So when we buy goods from overseas, we send dollars overseas.
01:41:16.000Because the dollar has been respected, we're able to basically export our inflation.
01:41:20.000Those dollars don't come back immediately to chase our goods, so inflation has been relatively low.
01:41:27.000But the whole thing is, it's a house of cards, and it depends on confidence of all these other countries Not only to keep those dollars in their circulation or in their central banks, but also to use them to buy treasury bills to finance our debt.
01:41:41.000My dad makes the point very succinctly.
01:41:43.000We can only fight the Iraq War by borrowing money from the Chinese.
01:42:38.000And the main thing we have going for us is 45% of the people are independent, can go into either primary, and the vast majority of independents are opposed to the war.
01:42:47.000If we can let enough of them know that we're their real answer for leaving Iraq, I mean, look, you've got Hillary Clinton says we're not going to leave until 2013 in her second term.
01:42:56.000You've got Barack Obama who keeps voting for all the war funding.
01:43:00.000You know, really, if their choice is for ending the war, Ron Paul's the only choice.
01:43:04.000He is the only choice to do that and to beat Hillary, the warmonger.
01:43:08.000I have no doubt Ron Paul is going to win the exit polls, which have always been accurate until magically these special machines with their own engineers have gone public saying they were hired to engage in stealing elections.
01:43:18.000The congressman, you know, doesn't like to be a spoiled sport or discourage people.
01:43:26.000But aren't you a little bit worried about those special machines?
01:43:30.000Well, I guess I'm mostly worried about just sort of corruption in general and people stealing votes.
01:43:35.000I mean, they steal them in multiple different ways.
01:43:38.000Back in LBJ's day, he was stealing them by buying the chairman of the county and getting all the votes, and they were paper ballots, you know, so you can steal votes anytime you have corruption.
01:43:48.000I think being conscious of trying to change our system, and I've talked with the people who want to change away from computer back to paper.
01:43:54.000You know, New Hampshire has paper ballots, which I think is good.
01:43:58.000The whole thing is it's a long-term fight.
01:44:00.000You won't change that in one election if you want to change away from the system.
01:44:04.000But what you can do in an immediate election is go to the campaign, if you're near New Hampshire, in New Hampshire, Iowa, or one of these early states, South Carolina, is you go to the campaign and say, look, I want to be a poll watcher.
01:44:16.000When you stand there in front of them, they may try to steal votes, but it's much harder with someone standing there.
01:44:36.000Yes, my question is, has your dad made any...
01:44:40.000Statements regarding about the Federal Reserve versus what what Kennedy wanted to do putting us back on our own dollars and get rid of the Federal Reserve and the other thing about this statement that he made about the IRS Uh, reforming the IRS and getting rid of it.
01:44:54.000That's the only thing that the press could come up with is say, well, look what this guy says.
01:44:58.000He's going to get rid of the IRS in 30 days.
01:45:00.000I think he needs to point out, he's not going to get rid of the IRS in 30 days.
01:45:13.000He does want to eliminate the income tax.
01:45:15.000That would take either a majority of Congress to vote that through, or a change in the Constitution, although I think a lot of people think you could get rid of the income tax with legislation.
01:45:27.000One point about is that a reasonable or an unreasonable thing, if you introduce next year in 2008, if you introduce the budget from the year 2000, You would actually be able to have a government without an income tax.
01:45:39.000That's how fast government is growing.
01:45:41.000Bob, this is how Ron Paul should answer, because I've got the numbers.
01:46:13.000Yeah, we can definitely eliminate the income tax.
01:46:16.000All these things will more than likely require congressional authority anyway, so he can't do any of this by himself, but he can definitely say that that's what he's in favor of and how quickly we can do it.
01:46:26.000Let's say, for example, The average income tax might be thirty percent, because you get rid of ten percent a year over three years, or, you know, five percent a year over six years.
01:46:35.000You know, gradualism versus immediately doing things.
01:46:39.000In our political world, there probably will have to be some gradualism.
01:46:44.000If you don't immediately start doing something, if you have somebody who says, in my second term I might do this, it's never going to happen.
01:46:50.000Ron will immediately start the process of these things.
01:46:58.000The manufacture rise of Mike Huckabee in the media is in direct result of the fact that none of these other neocon candidates could get traction.
01:47:16.000A Republican, you know, just died in the wool.
01:47:18.000A conservative listened to Rush Limbaugh.
01:47:20.000They're trying to get them to rally to Huckabee and that is directly a deception, obviously, to try and draw away from your father's true independent meteoric rise.
01:47:29.000Every story I've listened to, CNN the last few days and others, Yeah, and I tend to not really believe that Huckabee could have risen so fast.
01:47:34.000campaign, not since Reagan has something like this come out, but your dad is the true independent one.
01:47:40.000And that's because they know that he's got, quote, a glass jaw and Huckabee's got a bunch of skeletons so they can shoot him down.
01:47:49.000Yeah, and I tend to not really believe that Huckabee could have risen so fast, because you know, even a week ago they had him going from 8 to 17, but then a week later they had him going from 17 to 33 in Iowa.
01:48:02.000I don't intend to believe that some of it is manufactured, and they've decided upon him to try to coalesce some of their people together into one candidate.
01:48:14.000Yeah, I've read documents saying that, I mean, press releases saying that he was only going to run one term if he gets elected, and I was just wondering if that was true, if he only plans on running for one term.
01:48:48.000The Federal Reserve's the same sort of thing.
01:48:50.000I mean, some people say, would there be, you know, chaos if we got rid of the Federal Reserve?
01:48:55.000Well, part of one way or one avenue towards gradualism is that he believes in allowing competing currencies, and that would be legalizing contracts in gold and silver.
01:49:06.000Right now, I think you can make a contract in gold and silver, but the problem is, is if the price of gold goes from $400 to $800, they're going to charge you taxes on that dollar, nominal dollar capital in gold.
01:49:19.000And so it's hard to make contracts in gold right now.
01:49:22.000And even though I think people have tried it, you have to change the tax structure to allow competing currencies.
01:49:27.000Dr. Rand Paul, son of Ron Paul, you're going to be speaking coming up in Boston for the Money Bomb Boston Tea Party anniversary in the true spirit of America and liberty.
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01:58:06.000Well, for those that just joined us, Governor Rick Perry went to Bilderberg, Ruth, and sold out Texas and blocked the legislature that passed a law against him to not hand over 8,000 miles of existing roads, and sold out Texas and blocked the legislature that passed a law against him to not hand over 8,000 miles of existing roads, to have toll roads plopped They're going to use part of the money to fund the North American Union, that's all in the official government documents.
01:58:37.000Well, meanwhile, he's endorsed Rudolph Giuliani, son of the mob boss, And on top of that, if this doesn't get bad enough, Bracewell and Giuliani is a law firm out of Houston that Giuliani bought into and is the co-owner of.
01:58:53.000He entered into it three and a half years ago and Giuliani holds the briefs and is the lawyer of record, the attorney, the counselor of If this was a consular ship, where is the ambassador?
01:59:06.000I mean, he is an absolute New World Order front man, both of them, Giuliani and him.
02:00:15.000Why did he go to Bilderberg this year?
02:00:16.000Because once the big Bilderberg group members are the owners of Sentra and the owners of the big banks financing this giant takeover and the first big leg of one arm of the NAFTA superhighway grid.
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02:01:33.000You never heard me frothing about something, because you can feel revolution, you can feel the energy, you can feel destiny, whether he wins or not.
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02:01:55.000Thompson gets access to Florida gun shows, Miami Herald, And it says Victor Bean of the Florida and the Southern Gun and Knife Shows has said that he has 11 shows left of the primaries and estimates that 11,000 people will see Thompson's signs.
02:02:10.000He's been given exclusive access to the gun shows.
02:02:14.000And so we'll talk to him about this and why he is supporting Fred Thompson for El Presidente.
02:02:20.000He's scheduled to join us on the other side.
02:02:23.000We appreciate him coming on the show today.
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02:06:09.000Thompson gets access to Florida Gun Shows, Tennessee Gun Shows, all over.
02:06:16.000And we had some listeners call in about this.
02:06:19.000They were asking questions about, exclusively, why is it Fred Thompson?
02:06:22.000So I thought we would just get the individual who's been in most of the press reports, Victor Bean, who is the owner of Southern Classic Gun and Knife Shows.
02:06:39.000So how did you get hooked up with Fred Thompson, and why does it seem like, not just your gun show, but other gun shows, that he's the main guy really pushing in the gun shows?
02:06:47.000And some places it says that he's the exclusive candidate, quote, even allowed to be in the gun show.
02:06:53.000Well, Fred Thompson's the only candidate I'm aware of that's ever actually visited a gun show, and I think he's visited like five shows in like three or four different states.
02:07:03.000Uh, he's also, he has a very good record on voting for Second Amendment rights.
02:07:06.000It's like, I had a seat at the Republican, uh, debate in St.
02:07:10.000Petersburg, and, uh, when he was asked a question about, did he own a gun, he said he has two, and he's not going to tell you why he carries them, and that, uh, he believes that the Second Amendment means what it says.
02:07:23.000And a lot of people have gotten on board with him, because we, uh, you know exactly where Fred stands on whatever issue you're talking about.
02:07:34.000It's your right to have who you want in there.
02:07:37.000But the news reports I've gotten and what I've heard from listeners is specifically just Fred Thompson is allowed, though, to have campaign tables in your gun show, correct?
02:08:01.000I don't even know how many, but it's been a lot more than Fred Thompson.
02:08:06.000The rest of them have not contacted me at all, but certainly all of them are welcome to come to the show.
02:08:12.000Well, I've got a bunch of emails about other gun shows in Tennessee and other places where a Nashville meet-up group tried to go to one and a fellow named Bob Hope, no relation to the famous Bob Hope, told them they couldn't have one there.
02:08:28.000Now, that's just an email, that's just a report.
02:08:30.000I specifically got calls on air about your gun show in Tallahassee.
02:08:36.000I mean, didn't you just have one in Tallahassee?
02:08:39.000I think the promoter you're talking about, his actual name is Bob Pope.
02:08:42.000And I'm not familiar with the situation up there.
02:08:44.000But yeah, there's a lot of misinformation going around right now, especially with the Ron Paul group.
02:08:50.000Well, let me bring Tom Roberts up, because he's a fellow that called me, called into the show.
02:08:54.000He's a person that says he was there, and says he was kept from even wearing a Ron Paul shirt.
02:08:58.000And then I want to actually talk with you, sir, about where the Second Amendment's going from here, and how we can, you know, all help each other support it.
02:09:05.000Tom Roberts, did you just hear Mr. Bean say that Ron Paul people aren't being kept out?
02:09:53.000Well, he just admitted that when I came to the show Saturday with my Ron Paul t-shirt that he refused to let me in and refused to provide an explanation.
02:10:00.000And it not only happened to me, but there were several other Ron Paul supporters here who suffered equal treatment from him.
02:10:07.000Mr. Bean, I'm not trying to beat you up, but I'm trying to understand.
02:10:10.000Ron Paul has a perfect gun voting record.
02:10:14.000The NRA, who's supporting new gun bills right now, by the way, actually tried to manipulate and had to retract in Texas because he said no to a gun bill that would actually give more control to the federal government, and then they claimed that was a pro-gun bill.
02:10:30.000Ron Paul properly said that it was an anti-gun bill, and I've got CNN right here quoting Gun Owners of America Well, here's what I think about Ron Paul.
02:10:47.000Now, I lived in Texas for 18 years in Ron Paul's district.
02:10:50.000I've known him a long time, or who he is.
02:11:04.000He doesn't say one thing to one group until another group on the opposing side says something else.
02:11:09.000I think you know exactly where he stands, and that's something that very few politicians possess, is that quality to say it up front and know where they stand without being so wishy-washy.
02:11:20.000He also believes strongly in the Second Amendment, which I do also.
02:11:25.000I think our very country depends on the Second Amendment, just like my business does.
02:11:29.000So this question that a lot of people like Tom Roberts, or some of them have either been either lying or they've been duped by their own people about coming to the show.
02:11:41.000Explain to me why then you kept Tom Roberts, who's on the line right now, from coming to your show and trying to buy a ticket with a Ron Paul shirt?
02:11:49.000Okay, like I said, he's been represented at my show from any other president's candidate out there right now.
02:11:56.000And they came to six shows, and I gave them three tables to set up at the show.
02:12:02.000And during those six shows, they were problems at every one of them.
02:12:06.000And they were problems by being Disruptive to other exhibitors and patrons that come in the show who didn't share the same belief.
02:12:14.000And when they didn't share the same belief, they would verbally abuse them and say stuff like, you're the reason why this country's going to hell.
02:12:24.000Also, my show rules are all businesses conducted behind the tables, which I give to them for free.
02:13:35.000Well, I had a table at the September Gun Show here in Tallahassee, and I rented for Ron Paul, and Mr. Bean was the president at that one, and we didn't have any such trouble as he described.
02:13:47.000That may have happened at other gun shows that he operated in Florida.
02:13:50.000But it did happen here, and so that's the only criteria that I go by.
02:13:54.000Let me just say this, let me just say this.
02:13:56.000I have no doubt that Ron Paul supporters aren't the most enthusiastic out there, and that's to be expected.
02:14:01.000I can understand, though, how, because I've had tables at gun shows, they don't like you out in the halls and, you know, out in the aisles.
02:14:08.000I can imagine there's probably other people, too, who like other Republicans, and they're probably hyping this up and complaining on Ron Paul.
02:14:20.000You know, other people who've got tables, other Republicans who like other candidates, maybe they're exaggerating, maybe they're tattletailing on the Ron Paul supporters.
02:14:31.000I don't know, I don't know, but I know a lot of... I get asked a couple times a day at shows, you know, who Ron Paul is, and when I tell people, they'll say something like, I'll never vote for him, they don't even know who he is, and they say that because of the actions of his campaign workers.
02:14:50.000But they're not going to be coming into the show and disrupting the show and the patrons like that.
02:14:55.000Did you have trouble at the Tallahassee Show?
02:14:58.000I wasn't at the particular one before, but they did pass out literature outside, which they were told not to, and the person I had working for me, I told them there was going to be a competition, because I had competitions before, and I told them not to worry about it, that particular show.
02:15:13.000But yes, they did not stay behind their tables.
02:15:23.000But I bet Fred Thompson caused a disturbance when he showed up.
02:15:26.000I mean, that's kind of fun to have stuff like that going on, but I guess... Tom, what do you think is going on here?
02:15:32.000Well, I know all the people that were working my table in September, and I'm not aware of anybody that was passing out literature in the aisles, anywhere except the table, or outside.
02:15:44.000And if there was any of that going on, being that my name was on the contract for the rental table, his assistant who was covering that show never brought it to my attention.
02:15:52.000So I find it highly dubious his claim that that happened is accurate.
02:15:57.000Mr. Bean, I wonder why several newspapers, I've got them here in the stack, reported that Thompson's been given exclusivity to not just your show, but other shows.
02:16:28.000Just Ron Paul and Fred Thompson is the only one that's ever asked.
02:16:31.000None of the other candidates have ever asked to be at the show at today's.
02:16:35.000Alright, well I've tried to get to the bottom of this, and I guess the listeners can just decide for themselves.
02:16:40.000Regardless, I think people need to buy more guns, so I hope they go to your gun show and buy guns, but I hope you'd be more lenient on the Ron Paul people and give them a second chance, Mr. Bean.
02:16:49.000Well, you know, I have given a second chance.
02:16:54.000But, you know, what I feel, you know, Ron Paul's a good guy.
02:16:57.000I know he's fighting what he believes in.
02:17:00.000And it's a shame that someone like Ron Paul is giving so much service to this country and dedication of his life is being disgraced by his own campaign workers.
02:17:10.000And I don't understand that and they're losing votes for him by acting the way they do at these shows.
02:17:15.000Well, regardless of what the truth is, it is good to, at least when you're inside facilities, to try to be as dignified as possible, because there's a lot of ninnying neocons guaranteed that are making a big deal out of small things.
02:17:27.000And then maybe by the time you get it, Mr. Bean, it's been distorted, but who knows?
02:17:31.000Mr. Bean, thanks for coming on with us.
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02:23:26.000And then he went into a whole story about why he doesn't have them there, and Tom's saying that doesn't jive with the facts, and I'm not here to get in some squabbling fight with some gun shows.
02:23:36.000The point is, this is happening across the board.
02:23:39.000Ron Paul is being censored, manipulated, controlled, suppressed, demonized, lied about, spun, So we just gotta redouble our efforts even more.
02:23:48.000And yes, I'm pushing a lot of Ron Paul this week.
02:24:04.000Well, he not only threw me out of the show, but from September until the first of December, when we tried repeatedly to book a table for the show, The common line that we got from his office was that we're only selling political tables for Fred Thompson.
02:24:46.000Well, because he's been caught with his hand in... You know, he's been caught now and he's trying to save it.
02:24:52.000Like I said, it's a PR disaster for him.
02:24:55.000Did you hear him saying Fred Thompson is good when he's got a bad gun record?
02:25:00.000Well, there's more to the Constitution than the Second Amendment, and he's equally amiss and deficient on the Constitution across the board.
02:25:07.000And I emailed him an article, you know, Fred Thompson, the fake conservative.
02:25:32.000You're just not allowed to talk back to the Giuliani supporters.
02:25:34.000One of the first people that we had come up to us on the early Saturday morning back in September said, oh, well, Ron Paul's an idiot and I'm supporting so-and-so, you know, and we just said, all right, very good, well, you know, we'll just have to agree to disagree, you know, and he moved on and that was the end of it.
02:25:49.000We didn't get into any debate or terrain like he was saying, and I'm not disputing that that might have happened at other shows, but I can only address what happened here and none of that happened.
02:26:00.000You know, and all I'm going to say is that Mr. Bean, to all the gun owners in Florida, regardless of who they support, Mr. Bean is shooting himself in the foot.
02:26:08.000You know, it's not going to go well with him and his business, henceforth, because I'm going to contact the Meetup group in every town that he does his gun shows, and many of those Ron Paul supporters are gun supporters, too.
02:26:39.000It says Tennessee, with other people it says Florida, but it doesn't really give a source, so we don't know that's true.
02:26:46.000But it sure looks like he's acting like that.
02:26:48.000Well, the fact that he refused to sell us a table, or rent us a table for this show, You know, and he allowed a Fred Thompson table is kind of proof of that.
02:27:07.000Well, that's not so because there was the beat-up group here.
02:27:12.000You also said that he was real mean to you this weekend, right?
02:27:15.000Well, yeah, he was very hostile and rough.
02:27:17.000All he kept telling was that I wasn't listening, and that he wasn't going to repeat himself, and I needed to leave, and he wasn't going to tell me why.
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02:32:41.000Alright, I know we've got Billy, Mike, Skip, Dan, and maybe one or two others will have time to take your calls on a few of the stories I want to hit on.
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02:37:54.000There's also a link on PrisonPlanet.com, but Five Star, just the number Five Star, dot FiveStarsSoap.com or CalvinPureSoap.com, but give them that number again, Marty.
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02:39:38.000Marty, give him the number again in a limerick.
02:40:34.000So in an interview last night with ABC News, John Kikakru, the CIA official who headed the team that interrogated al-Qaeda leader Abu Zayed, said that he was waterboarded but defended those actions as having prevented maybe dozens of plant attacks said that he was waterboarded but defended those actions as having prevented maybe dozens Meanwhile, the brigadier general that was over all of this, the legal rights of Guantanamo detainees had,
02:41:01.000during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the legal rights of Guantanamo detainees this morning.
02:41:06.000Brigadier General Thomas W. Hartman, the legal advisor at Guantanamo Bay, repeatedly refused to call the hypothetical waterboarding of an American pilot by the Iranian military torture.
02:41:18.000I'm not equipped to answer that question, said Hartman.
02:41:21.000And this is Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican South Carolina, asking him this and getting disgusted that he wouldn't even answer the question and say Iranians aren't allowed to torture our airmen.
02:41:33.000See, torture isn't torture now when they do it to us either.
02:42:00.000We get a report that the Iranian government is involved in the exercise of waterboarding that downed airman on the theory they want to know when the next military operation may occur.
02:42:13.000What would be the response of What should be the response of the uniformed legal community regarding the activity of the Iranian government?
02:42:21.000I'm not equipped to answer that question, Senator.
02:42:25.000I will tell you the answer to the question that you asked in the beginning, Senator.
02:42:30.000You mean you're not equipped to give a legal opinion as to whether or not Iranian military waterboarding, secret security agents waterboarding down airmen is a violation of the Geneva Convention?
02:42:44.000I am not prepared to answer that question, Sandra.
02:43:27.000I actually, this sounds odd, but I actually think it would be pretty interesting if you made a documentary about New Jersey, just period, and cool at the Garden of Health Day.
02:43:48.000New Jersey has the highest amount of people getting vaccinated and highest number of autism in the country, and now wants to mandate preschoolers getting tons of vaccines.
02:43:55.000The government has millions and millions of tons of nerve gas and mustard gas all along the shore.
02:43:59.000New Jersey is also a famous site for chemtrails, not to mention the schools are a complete police state with armed guards and police swiping IDs and cameras everywhere, which all transmit to the police department.
02:46:26.000It wasn't hard for me to predict 9-11 attacks.
02:46:29.000The feds took the bomb, trained the driver, gave them the detonators, attacked the World Trade Center the first time.
02:46:36.000Presidents like inaugural bombings or terror attacks in their first year, prime ministers do it too, to get to pose as the savior and have a new wave of police state expansion.
02:46:45.000I saw all over television how they introduced Bin Laden in the 3-4 months before 9-11 as the boogeyman.
02:47:31.000And so I put out one other warning saying we're in a prime zone.
02:47:36.000Late last year, I didn't say they were going to do it.
02:47:38.000I said if we got the word out, we could back them off, and I think we did.
02:47:42.000They would have guaranteed, already staged more terror attacks if we hadn't exposed government-sponsored terror and taken that tool, taken that mechanism, as I've been saying for 10 years, of government-sponsored terror and exposed it.
02:47:54.000Breaking that tool that they have developed, basically smashing it.
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02:52:17.000Glenn Beck has now done, for all of you to see, I'm going to do a little blurb on PrisonPlanet.com the next hour on this, this is big, just because this is catching them red-handed.
02:53:47.000Hi, and I'm a little worried about the campaign, let me tell you.
02:53:52.000You know, there's two things, you know, this business of these supposed disruptive campaign workers at the gun shows, and I don't know whether this guy is, you know, exaggerating or what, but I think we need to look at the possibility of infiltration by
02:54:14.000You know, most of the people that I talk to, the Ron Paul supporters, are very intelligent and sensible and, you know, approach you in a reasonable manner to talk, and so I think that basically that's all, that's most of what we are.
02:54:34.000Well look, I'm not too worried about the campaign, it's exploding, and I think that that gun show owner sounded kind of, did you hear him backpedal?
02:54:42.000Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, but there's another thing beyond that.
02:54:45.000Let me tell you, a friend of mine who's not particularly a Ron Paul supporter, as a matter of fact he's backing Edwards, but he tells me he's got 12 to 15 calls, an automated call to talk about, you know, Ron Paul.
02:55:16.000We're at the end of the show here, ladies and gentlemen.
02:55:19.000In the first hour, I got into Giuliani, Bilderberg Group, tied in with his running mate, who I believe is going to be his running mate, they're now saying he may be, Governor Perry, endorsing him.
02:55:28.000The first hour was key, as every day it is, but particularly key today.
02:55:34.000So, if you're listening on AM or FM station and you missed it, and I want to thank all those affiliates, go to InfoWars.com or tonight or whenever.