Alex Jones is back after a month and a half. Dr. Jerome Corsi and Patrick J. Buchanan join Alex on the show to discuss the massive government conspiracy against Ron Paul and his supporters. The mainstream media continues to deny the existence of the North American Union and the need for a North American ID system. Is the next 9/11 truther the next Truther? Is the former Canadian Prime Minister The next 9-Truther? And more!
00:00:14.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:18.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:23.000We have a big broadcast lined up for you today.
00:00:43.000He hasn't been on with us in over a month.
00:00:45.000Dr. Jerome Corsi will be joining us in the third hour.
00:00:49.000Discuss how the mainstream media continues to claim that there's no such thing as a NAU, Napa Superhighway, Trans-Texas Corridor.
00:01:01.000Doesn't matter, they're building it, announcing it, the federal documents show they've signed on to the agreements.
00:01:06.000Business owners from Texas to California are being sent, we even have just a few employees, letters by their workforce commissions, their departments of labor, from the feds, through the states, telling them you've got to sign on to the North American ID system, replacing the U.S.
00:01:44.000How Hubris, Ideology and Greed are Tearing America Apart.
00:01:48.000We're also going to get his take on the Ron Paul revolution.
00:01:52.000So, more big guests coming up on the broadcast for you today.
00:01:58.000Speaking of the North American Union, Wall Street Journal today, Senate approval of Peru pact aids Bush's free trade agenda.
00:02:06.000When you hear free trade, that means the American Union expanding out of the North American Union, as Vicente Fox has said it is meant to do, as the Council on Foreign Relations has said it was meant to do.
00:02:18.000You know, last week in Florida, even the mainstream news reported St.
00:02:23.000Petersburg newspaper and others that Romney people were allowed to vote as many times as they wanted.
00:02:34.000Fifteen times apiece, one person did, for Romney.
00:02:38.000And so Ron Paul was winning two to one, but then the Romney people showed up on buses with unlimited tickets and were able to do that.
00:02:46.000Then he, Ron Paul won in Virginia because they had a fair poll.
00:02:52.000Well, now in San Francisco, the GOP has cancelled the straw poll, because as scores of Ron Paul supporters showed up, and there really wasn't many other people showing up, the GOP sponsors just cancelled it.
00:03:23.000Let's just trust these black boxes with no record of how you voted, with the different engineers from the major companies going public and saying they were hired to engage in fraud, and the thousands of cases where they've been caught engaged in fraud, and their own internal memos, and their own directors publicly saying, I'm here to deliver the votes to this person or that person.
00:03:46.000Corruption and fake FEMA newscasts, and fake INS slash ICE Homeland Security press conferences, and fake news purchases in the tens of billions.
00:03:58.000I mean, just a rain of propaganda spew.
00:04:03.000But it's easily discernible from the real and accurate news that's out there.
00:04:06.000Even a lot of mainstream news is accurate.
00:04:07.000If you know how to check the basis, the background, integrate it with other alternative reports.
00:04:13.000But the big nightly reports, the big news you hear, the big officialdom, you know, the front page type stuff is generally government paid for propaganda or spin.
00:04:25.000I should do a whole show sometime on how to identify it, how to track it down, how to test it.
00:04:33.000But it's just really a knowledge you gain, too.
00:04:35.000And even when you're an expert in this, you occasionally get hoodwinked.
00:04:39.000But it's good to just know this stuff is going on.
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00:07:59.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:09.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:12.000Yesterday, thanks to a listener tip, we We picked up on one of the major Italian newspapers, well actually several of them, that the former president had gone public and said that 9-11 was an inside job.
00:08:42.000And then I had my wife look at it, whose dad worked for the Agriculture Department, so she lived in France, she lived in Spain, she also lived in Italy, so she speaks good Italian specifically.
00:09:09.000Babelfish is wrong because they were using Babelfish to decipher it.
00:09:14.000And it did indeed in Babelfish say that he was saying that it was an inside job.
00:09:19.000And now a bunch of other big sites have had people translate it into the exact same translation we got.
00:09:27.000He did say it, and that's just the way it is.
00:09:31.000People are in continual denial about any serious news.
00:09:37.000I remember when we first got the PBS video of Larry Silverstein saying that They gave the order to pull it and watch the building come down.
00:09:47.000The next clip in the film is them destroying the other buildings months later and going, getting ready to pull building six, and then they blow it up.
00:10:14.000The White House is now saying they never said Iraq had WMDs.
00:10:18.000Doesn't matter how many video clips, how many audio clips, how many presidential addresses, how many states of the unions, how many press conferences by then Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, they're just saying they never said it!
00:10:31.000Remember, Karl Rove said that we control reality, i.e.
00:10:50.000When they say the amnesty bill isn't an amnesty bill, but it's secret, just trust us, and then we get a copy of the bill, and it's the biggest amnesty in U.S.
00:10:58.000history, they've now been discredited again.
00:11:01.000When they come out and say there's no longer mercury in vaccines, and then Bush vetoes a bill trying to legally block mercury in vaccines, they're discredited again.
00:11:12.000When they say there's no NAFTA superhighway structure being built, when it's on the Federal Transportation Department's own websites and announcements for five years running, the Trans-Texas Corridor for at least five, six years has been announced in Texas, thousands of places.
00:11:25.000I mean, do you believe CNN gets up there and just says, it doesn't exist, Ron Paul's delusional and just makes things up and is insane?
00:11:36.000So I really welcome the wholesale denial by the establishment, because it isn't working anymore.
00:11:44.000People are finding out that you're a pack of liars.
00:11:47.000But again, ex-Italian president, intel agencies know 9-11, an inside job, man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA Mossad.
00:12:01.000You can see our translation there on the site, and you can then go to Daily Cross and the Huffington Post, everywhere else they have the same thing.
00:12:11.000But again, my wife lived in Italy for six years.
00:12:15.000And actually, Paul's first translation of it, using translation programs, was not strong enough.
00:12:25.000He fingered Israel even stronger, ladies and gentlemen, than we had first said.
00:12:33.000We just translated it to say that all the intelligence agencies know that U.S.
00:12:38.000intelligence and the Mossad carried out the attacks to launch wars in the Middle East.
00:12:44.000He actually goes on to say the U.S., the Mossad, for the Zionists.
00:12:53.000So it's very volatile, very incendiary.
00:12:58.000We're just reporting on what this highly respected seven-year, that's a long time for an Italian politics, former president and also former intelligence chief is saying.
00:13:09.000So there was a double statement on Israel, not a single.
00:13:32.000And then when others did it, it was exactly when other Italian websites responded, and when it was translated, word for word, exactly as we said.
00:13:42.000Bin Laden supposedly confessed to the Al-Qaeda September attack.
00:13:48.000To the two towers in New York, claiming to be the author of the attack of 9-11.
00:13:53.000While all the intelligence services of America and Europe know well that the disastrous attack had been planned and realized from the CIA, American, and the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world, in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries, and in order to induce the Western powers to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:14:19.000Now, that is the exact translation out of Italian.
00:14:26.000But the government is not even officially denying this.
00:14:30.000They're having their moles and disinfo people still run around from Digg to you name it, saying he didn't say that.
00:14:39.000Now, he's gone public before about the U.S.
00:14:42.000government in conjunction with the Italian government staging terror attacks in Operation Gladiobe.
00:14:49.000Across Europe and Italy in the 1960s, 70s, and culminating in the Bologna bombing in 1980.
00:14:56.000And an official Italian parliamentary inquiry in 2000 officially found that intelligence agencies of the West staged the terror attacks.
00:15:16.000He'd been the intelligence chief before that, I think so.
00:15:19.000come into power right when, as intelligence chief, right when the Bologna situation happened.
00:15:24.000He internally, from the experts we've had on, all the books have been written, the news articles we've covered, said that's enough, but then he did say, well, I'm guilty too because I didn't expose this at first.
00:15:35.000You know, he put an end to it, but he certainly, people said, well, why would he do that because Some people have a soul, ladies and gentlemen, and it was just too much to watch all those dead children and women at Bologna.
00:15:53.000It's all covered in TerrorStorm, a history of government-sponsored terror.
00:16:00.000Before we go to break, I want to play this three-minute clip from The news, young Pakistanis, Bin Laden is a CIA creation, Good Morning America gets more than it bargained for in a feature on young people in Pakistan.
00:16:15.000And then the person that edited this video together, you'll hear the audio.
00:16:20.000Put it together with documents and statements and Bush making comments that just back up what we already knew, that it literally is just a completely staged event.
00:16:29.000He's a real person, a real asset of the government.
00:16:31.000Tim Osman, codename in the CIA, but used as the kind of fictitious boogeyman.
00:17:10.000A lot of them find it difficult to believe that such Muslims could actually exist.
00:17:13.000We could all drive an hour from where we are right now and find many, many people Who stand by what Osama Bin Laden says in the spirit of Islam?
00:17:23.000To be quite honest, that's a very marginalized section of Pakistani society.
00:17:26.000Islamic extremism that you find here did not really exist in Pakistan pre 9-11.
00:17:44.000In an exclusive interview with Newsweek, the CIA field commander in Tora Bora during the invasion, Gary Bernson, broke his silence.
00:17:53.000He explained that his intelligence operatives had tracked Bin Laden to Tora Bora.
00:17:57.000Mr. Bernson feels so strongly about getting this story out Uh, in getting his book published, that he actually resigned two years short of retirement, uh, from the CIA in order to publish his book.
00:18:09.000At the time of this interview, he was required to speak to his attorney until the CIA cleared his book for publication.
00:18:18.000At various points in time, they did have, to my understanding, definitive intelligence as to his general location within Tora Bora.
00:18:26.000I can't go into detail as to the actual sources of the intelligence and the collection methods because those remain classified.
00:18:35.000However, we had Osama Bin Laden essentially cornered in Tora Bora and for whatever reasons we did not do what was necessary in order to ensure that he did not escape.
00:18:48.000Of course we're after Saddam Hussein, I mean Bin Laden.
00:18:57.000According to investigative reporter Seymour Hirsch, the Bush administration with Saudi Arabia is secretly funding radical Sunni groups, some with ties to Al-Qaeda, to counter Shia groups backed by Iran.
00:19:09.000A lot of them find it difficult to believe that such Muslims would actually exist.
00:19:13.000There is also no evidence that bin Laden used the term Al-Qaeda to refer to the name of a group until after September the 11th, when he realized that this was the term the Americans had given him.
00:19:27.000And, uh, by the way, it's important to add to this whole discussion the fact that... Well, I'll cover it when I get time on the other side.
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00:24:49.000Alright, getting back to Huben Ladness.
00:24:52.000If you give this man a ride, sweet ma'am.
00:24:55.000Pretty much everybody in the population knows that Bin Laden was one of the main sons of one of the wealthiest families in Saudi Arabia, the Bin Ladens, who go back over 80 years to being members of British intelligence, back from the days when the British came in and took over Saudi Arabia and created the country.
00:25:21.000And they would go out and just arm Bedouin tribes, and have them go in and take over different cities and different sectors, and then set up their own imperial system there.
00:25:32.000And the Bin Ladens, this is mainline history, have been servants of British intel ever since.
00:25:36.000The British set up what is Iraq today, Kuwait.
00:25:40.000They drew all the lines of what is the Middle East today.
00:25:44.000And then they had a public strategy in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s to radicalize Muslims because the Middle East and Central Asia was westernizing.
00:26:13.000So just as they had sent in the ragtag Stone Age folks out in the desert to go and take over the cities, they went into Iran, they went into Iraq, they went into a whole score of nations, and they went and hired the most radical Muslims there were.
00:26:45.000And before 1979, Afghanistan was developing.
00:26:51.000Afghanistan was westernizing, though it was one of the more primitive countries.
00:26:56.000Massive Wahhabist funding had been brought in already by Saudi Arabia, a particular radical sect of the folks that are on the opposite side of the fence from the Shiites, the Sunnis.
00:27:12.000And so they came into the nation and they radicalized them.
00:27:18.000under Carter started a covert campaign commanded by Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor, to run attacks on the Russians in the nations north, several nations north of Afghanistan.
00:27:36.000When the Russians fought back and came into the country and occupied it, it was then the, quote, Holy War.
00:27:42.000The Jihad was... I'm not defending the Russians either.
00:27:48.000They were sent in, and after a, what, seven-plus year war, the Russians were driven from the country, thanks to CIA advisors, Stinger missiles, and other weapons platforms, knocking out their different rotary ...type of aircraft there, helicopters.
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00:40:59.000Okay, let's go ahead now and go to some of your calls.
00:41:01.000Let's have open phones, and then I'm going to get into Senate approval of a pact Thank you so much, Alex.
00:41:12.000This is out of the Wall Street Journal.
00:41:13.000Soon approval of Peru Pact, AIDS-Bush free trade agenda.
00:41:18.000But right now, let's go ahead and go to Frank in New Jersey.
00:41:24.000In regards to this Anglo-American establishment thing that's been going on, I guess you're quite aware of the Royal International Affairs Association.
00:41:36.000The Royal Institute of International Affairs.
00:41:39.000Yeah, well, they've been working in Khrushchev since their inception.
00:41:43.000But here's a quote from Arnold Toynbee that was quoted back in 31.
00:41:47.000The original source is the trend for international affairs since the war, meaning World War I.
00:41:55.000Arnold Turnby, it said, we are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world.
00:42:08.000All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands.
00:42:12.000These people have no compulsion about lying.
00:42:15.000If it's a means to the end, they will do it.
00:42:18.000It's quite obvious what's been going on.
00:42:20.000Arnold Turnby has been affiliated with Cecil Rhodes and his organization.
00:42:25.000You might try John 844, they're the father of the devil.
00:42:32.000They're liars from the beginning, murderers.
00:42:34.000So that would be the biblical reference.
00:42:37.000I mean, you read that quote, and I've seen that quote, and we actually had the publication was originally made in, you know, decades and decades ago.
00:42:44.000I mean, Cecil Rhodes wrote best-selling books about how they were going to set up a global British empire and have fronts that did it.
00:42:50.000And this has now happened today, and the CFR has got hundreds of quotes out where they say they're going to lie to the public.
00:42:58.000Well, it's just even with someone that has such a stellar view with this Winston Churchill.
00:43:06.000All his adult career, he was a Mason and a Druid.
00:43:11.000He precipitated the sinking of the Lusitania.
00:43:15.000He was involved with 215,000 British troops being killed in World War I at Galapagos.
00:43:25.000My source is the Brotherhood of Darkness book, of course, and also Dennis Cuddy.
00:43:31.000Uh, newswithfuse.com is one of the best researchers out there.
00:43:34.000I sure wish she'd get Dennis on sometime.
00:43:36.000Yeah, we've had Dennis on about ten times.
00:43:38.000Uh, I do know that, uh, if it wasn't for you guys getting the information out, uh, we just, uh, just another thing, in two days we're going to be celebrating the World War, uh, what is it, Pearl Harbor?
00:43:49.000Uh, well, I guess you know about with, uh, uh, Tyler Tyler Kent, and he's trying to feed information to the Senate and the Congress back before World War II about what was the secret decoded messages that he was deciphering for Franklin Roosevelt and Churchill.
00:44:39.000I uploaded, I actually have the video of it.
00:44:42.000You know, the spirit of this Ron Paul campaign is just I met a guy on the phone last night who spent the night adjusting the light levels and then compressing the video so that we could all see it.
00:44:58.000If you just search for San Francisco Straw Poll, DEC4, December 4, you should be able to find it.
00:45:06.000And to add to the surrealism of the event, the woman who was running it was wearing a Santa hat throughout the whole time and proceeded to With a number of incomprehensible reasons as to why they couldn't conduct the straw poll.
00:45:22.000Mainly so that we wouldn't offend the other guests who were going to lose.
00:45:43.000Just cops running around in black uniforms everywhere, tasering everyone.
00:45:46.000I find it ironic that here we are, the Republican Party has been trying to export democracy, and we can't even run a straw poll.
00:45:52.000They're complete and total New World Order shills, the lot of them.
00:45:56.000I mean, this country is run by a pack of, an army of parasites, and they're not going to let us rest control without a fight.
00:46:05.000Alex, the interesting thing about it is that the woman, when you see this woman talking, I mean, she clearly is not a mover and shaker in the Republican Party.
00:46:13.000And when you combine that with the irregularities of the Mitt Romney straw poll... So she openly says, and I know the Lou Rockwell reports this, but she openly says, well, since Ron Paul's gonna win, that'll hurt other people's feelings.
00:46:25.000We're just not gonna... That's the whole point of a straw poll, to see who wins.
00:46:28.000Well, you are a lot more comprehensible than she was just now.
00:46:30.000And look, the video speaks for itself.
00:47:10.000On Friday, you were talking about how hard it is to explain to people about McVeigh's role in Oklahoma City because they don't believe in mind control.
00:47:17.000Just remind them of what a group of rank amateurs was able to do to Patricia Hurst in a very short time.
00:48:08.000We already knew, and it's come out now in documents via lawsuits, that the Southern Poverty Law Center was running the Elohim City training compound.
00:48:18.000The FBI and the First World Trade Center started the group, cooked the bomb, trained the drivers, told them where to park it, gave them the detonators.
00:48:25.000Their own informants said, I thought this was a sting.
00:48:27.000I'm not going to be involved in the bombing.
00:48:33.000You know, the election's in 11 months, and I don't think Hillary Clinton wants a populist who's well-informed on Oklahoma City truth at that time.
00:49:41.000Basically everything that you said at the beginning of the broadcast about how they funded Afghanistan to fight against the Soviets, that's the plot of the movie.
00:49:49.000And so everything that you're discussing is getting ready to be released as a mainstream movie.
00:49:54.000And then people email me and say, I got it from a movie.
00:49:59.000What I was wondering is, originally it was a book.
00:50:03.000Uh, if you knew anything about, uh, Charlie Wilson, the congressman, and how he was an alcoholic, and how, you know, basically it was just a... It's now widely known, that's kind of my point, is that... Well, you're also implying that, because I have read the synopsis of the film, at first I didn't register, uh, that, uh, it's a big whitewash saying that he ran it all and he did it all.
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00:59:31.000And we've got Dr. Jerome Corsi to analyze all the incredible disinformation and spin from the news media, claiming there's no such thing as even a trans-Texas corridor.
01:00:37.000They talked about the immigration issue.
01:00:41.000And it was interesting, towards the end of the episode, someone mentioned the North American Union, and one of the co-anchors on the show just completely denied its existence.
01:00:51.000And then today, on today's episode of Democracy Now!, they had a gentleman from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
01:00:57.000Let me get a saying that if you talk about the NAU, it's a code word for hurting blacks.
01:01:03.000And for hurting any minority, it seems like.
01:01:07.000Their headline today is, uh, FBI statistics show anti-Latino hate crimes on the rise.
01:01:13.000And it's all statistics from the Southern Poverty Law Commission.
01:01:16.000The folks that brought you Elohim City, the command base.
01:01:19.000It just seems like they're really confusing this issue with anti-immigration.
01:01:27.000When we had Chinese spies and Chinese generals running the Commerce Department, CNN would say it was racism against Asians to talk about it.
01:01:36.000They treat the public like complete morons.
01:01:39.000It's incredible to me because I go to Democracy Now!, I go to Pacifica Radio, you know, as a legitimate source of news, and it just, it really shocked me.
01:01:50.000Yeah, I've looked into that a little bit.
01:01:52.000They admit of some of the things that are happening, but then give fraudulent solutions to it all.
01:01:58.000More government, more corporate controlled crime syndicate.
01:02:02.000I mean, the government is a tool of the multinationals.
01:02:07.000It seems like they've thrown a little bit of truth in there, and they say, see, look here, you can't deny this, and then they just tie up all this other misinformation.
01:02:14.000Well, what do you think Glenn Beck does?
01:02:15.000He'll get on and say, law of the sea treaty is totally evil, new order takeover is horrible, let's arrest Ron Paul supporters.
01:02:22.000And neither the Anchor for Democracy Now nor Lou Dobbs brought it up.
01:02:27.000And when the North American Union was finally brought up at the end of yesterday's episode, Juan Gonzalez, he just kind of sneered at it.
01:02:35.000And they really, I don't know, it was interesting, they didn't talk about it, they jumped directly to the Minutemen.
01:02:42.000They talked about all these other issues.
01:02:45.000I've noticed they'll have newscasts about child molesters, and then they'll have the next piece is about the Minutemen.
01:02:51.000Or they'll have a... I mean, it's all psychological warfare.
01:02:56.000And I mean, do the citizens out there listening think it's cute or fun to have this done against us?
01:03:01.000You have to look at the money, you have to look at, you know, the fact that every dollar that's issued is loaned, and that, you know, there's a lot of key issues which just seem to get lost.
01:03:14.000Look, Amy Goodman, the person that runs Democracy Now!, Was there during the countdown and was told to get back, they were going to blow up building 7, you see her start running and then it blows up.
01:03:25.000I mean, we've talked to the emergency workers who were there, we've interviewed them, while the countdown was going and she's told, you see her listening, and then she starts running.
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01:06:59.000Continuing with your phone calls, ladies and gentlemen, as we await Pat Buchanan joining us, and then, of course, Dr. Jerome Corsi. - Uh, yeah.
01:07:28.000Every day I'm sent, I don't know, 10, 15, 20, depends on the day, different state documents, federal documents on their own websites, announcements, photos of billboards, clips of the heads of different legislatures in the U.S.
01:07:43.000and Canada, Announcing the North American Union, announcing the Trade Corridors, announcing the NAFTA Superhighways.
01:07:50.000I mean, here's just one of them today.
01:07:54.000And this is from Infrastructure and Transportation, Alberta Government.
01:07:58.000See, just up there, they don't even deny any of it.
01:08:03.000And it shows the NAFTA, it calls it NAFTA Superhighway.
01:08:07.000Uh, is the one that goes through Texas.
01:08:11.000Uh, the other big, massive one is Canamax.
01:08:15.000Then they call another one just Interstate 5, and then Camino Real is one that comes out of the Mexico border up into New Mexico, into Colorado, and then on up into Canada, right up through Wyoming and Montana on that border.
01:10:02.000We got billboards everywhere saying Trans-Texas Corridor and CNN says Ron Paul's Illusional and claims there's a Trans-Texas Corridor in Texas.
01:10:39.000And you type that in, and keeping Texas moving, in your area, Trans-Texas Corridor, new toll roads, congestion relief, safer roads, see how great it is.
01:10:51.000Oh, there's a news article today about how they're going to put transponders in all evacuees' vehicles.
01:11:25.000It's just, um, I can't believe I'm here like an idiot going, it's real, it's real, we're not crazy, we're not, there's billboards everywhere!
01:11:35.000Ooh, I know I just keep repeating this over and over again, we got Corsi coming up next hour to talk about it with his angle on it, but I mean, I'm actually getting a headache now when I think about this, because watching everybody get conned, watching the public get snookered and suckered and scammed and bamboozled and taken for a ride, fleeced, Cheered.
01:12:10.000I mean, at a certain point, I'm like, why do I even do this show?
01:12:13.000If the idiot moron yuppies out there think everything's so cute and funny and they don't need to get involved in politics or they can talk about how they like Hillary or they like Fred Thompson or Giuliani, you make me sick!
01:12:28.000It's like when a big city police department goes corrupt and, you know, in cases in New York where they'd send two-thirds of the vice squad to prison for it.
01:13:22.000Listen, most of the population is intent on staying on the forum.
01:13:26.000Just the other night in the debates, I don't know if anybody commented on it or even talked about it, but Huckabee just took away one of Ron Paul's platforms, just went with it and got big applause.
01:14:05.000They're afraid that conservatives are going to wake up the polls, so they're just calling him the little starling now.
01:14:12.000They're just intent on staying uninformed.
01:14:14.000You know, 35 years ago, 40 years ago, Anthony Hilder With Millennium 2000, we put out a set of record albums about the Illuminati 40 years ago.
01:14:49.000If we do not stand up and take our country back and put Ron Paul in there, it's over.
01:14:54.000And people are just... they just need to wake up and realize that Ron Paul is dominating and the press is just... Well, imagine CNN and Fox and National Talk Show hosts and questions during the debates Are saying it doesn't exist, and Ron Paul, they're saying he's mentally ill.
01:15:15.000They're saying... As soon as he said... I mean, they got billboards up and TV ads!
01:15:20.000As soon as he said NAFTA Superhighway, if there was an informed public out there, they would have Googled NAFTA Superhighway and seen at least 500 hits immediately, right in front of their eyeballs.
01:15:31.000But they just are intent on living on Fox News soundbites and just sitting there like dumbed-down sheep, And not doing anything about it.
01:16:47.000I'm calling to announce that the Boston Tea Party and Conference for 9-11 Truth will be happening December 15th and 16th.
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01:17:01.000I'm actually the... not to toot my own horn or anything, but I was the guy that was assaulted by the Fox News reporter, and you guys graciously put that up on Prison Planet, I believe.
01:17:14.000But I would just like to hope that Things like what We Are Change is doing and what you are doing would influence people to get out there and be active and hand out flyers, hand out your DVDs.
01:17:50.000Stephen Jones, former physics professor, Richard Gage, Kevin Ryan, we're having Bob Bowman, Kevin Barrett, Barbara Hunniger, I think we're even having some victims, family members.
01:18:15.000I really hope we'll be able to cover the cost of renting the venue.
01:18:19.000I mean, what are they going to do when one of the most respected Italian presidents ever, and the former head of their intelligence agency, says our government carried out 9-11?
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01:27:12.000And now it's been in the news that they're training for gun confiscation and martial law, and that they have recruited first 13,000, and they doubled that number this year to 26,000 preachers.
01:27:32.000We get into a lot of the religious issues, especially the coming one world religion.
01:27:38.000And all that, the FEMA programs for pastors is all part of that.
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01:28:02.000Well, I mean, that's how we have the same zoning laws from Austin, Texas, to New York, New York, is that it's all internationally written up by the UN, and then it's adopted by treaty, and then the big bond houses and insurance companies put it in their requirements for the cities to be rated or insured, and they all just adopt it.
01:28:18.000I mean, that's how this whole globalist system is being set up right now.
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01:32:39.000Death of the West, years ago, was really one of the first big books to explain how we're going into a new world order, a North American Union, how the West is imploding, what illegal immigration is really all about, sacrificing The United States, Canada, Europe, on the altar of globalism, and his new book is Day of Reckoning, How Hubris, Ideology, and Greed Are Tearing America Apart.
01:33:04.000Now, if I tried to go over all of Pat Buchanan's bio, Nixon's speechwriter and working for CNN, Crossfire for years.
01:33:13.000Right now, he's one of the chief political analysts on MSNBC, also a regular on the McLaughlin Group.
01:33:19.000He writes sometimes daily, but usually weekly syndicated columns that are always filled with just a lot of vital info because Pat Buchanan is so respected by conservatives, ideologies.
01:33:30.000I would also dovetail that Dr. Corsi's book, of course, Late Great USA, is a best-seller that dovetails nicely with my new film that just came out, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, where we show the world leaders saying they're setting up at NAU, setting up and merging it with the European Union.
01:33:45.000Bush, with Merkel and Barroso of Europe, just a few months ago, saying it on C-SPAN.
01:33:53.000They say one thing out of one side of their mouth and another thing out of the other side of their mouth, and that's why we're really honored to have Pat Buchanan on, because if people won't listen to me or Dr. Corsi and others, maybe they'll listen to Pat Buchanan.
01:34:09.000Let's first just run down the new book, because there's a lot of topics you cover, and this integrates in with the whole New World Order system, but Day of Reckoning, break it down for us.
01:34:19.000Well, there's a number of crises coming up the road at the United States, and it looks to me like a perfect storm.
01:34:25.000You can start off with the dollar that's sinking very, very rapidly, the de-industrialization of America.
01:34:31.000We lost one in six manufacturing jobs, three million of them in the last seven years.
01:34:36.000We've had five trillion in trade deficits since NAFTA.
01:34:40.000You've got a $233 billion trade deficit with China.
01:34:45.000You've got a wide open border where six million people apparently came across in the last seven years.
01:34:51.000That's about 800,000 invaders every year.
01:34:55.000You've got no plan to secure that border on the part of the administration or either party.
01:35:01.000You've got America tied down in Afghanistan and Iraq.
01:35:04.000General Powell says the army is breaking, and yet we're committed to defend countries All over the world, from the Baltic Republics, to Eastern Europe, to the Balkans, to Israel, to the Middle East, to the Persian Gulf, to Taiwan, to South Korea, to Japan.
01:35:22.000And you put all these together with a Social Security and Medicare fiscal crisis, and you put on the fact that the United States, the melting pot, is cracked and broken.
01:35:32.000And we are not Americanizing or assimilating immigrants the way we used to.
01:35:37.000We're encouraging them to maintain a separate language.
01:35:40.000Spanish is becoming the second language in America.
01:35:43.000I see the decomposition and the deconstruction of America and the eventual merger of the United States with Mexico.
01:35:51.000And if we don't get the border fence built within the next 10 years, we will never get it built.
01:35:57.000And I think there will be a de facto merger of this country with Mexico.
01:36:01.000And that, to me, is the end of the sovereign, independent, unique, different United States of America.
01:36:10.000Well, that's what the facts show, but then the mainstream controlled press, unless you or a few other people are on there, and you're maybe 1-2% of the news coverage out there, they say it doesn't exist, Ron Paul's delusional, there's no trans-Texas corridor, CNN said that last week.
01:37:04.000You can Google the name Robert Bartley, conservative, neoconservative editorial editor of the Wall Street Journal for 30 years.
01:37:12.000Put his name in and put five words, there shall be open borders.
01:37:17.000For 25 years, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the neoconservative voice of the nation, Has been fighting to erase the borders between the United States, Canada, and Mexico.
01:37:28.000As you mentioned, Vicente Fox does not disguise what he is all about.
01:37:32.000I put in an earlier book of mine, State of Emergency, I've got his direct quotes where he goes over to Europe and says, the EU is our model, this is what we want done, the erasure of borders, people and goods.
01:37:45.000And tourists, everybody travels back and forth at will.
01:37:49.000What is happening is, the project was advancing forward until the populist reaction, the same one that defeated the amnesty bill, rose up to the point where they said, oh, this is just silly, this is paranoid.
01:38:03.000But the truth is, once you integrate two economies, the ways ours are being integrated with NAFTA, and the post-NAFTA declaration is down there at Baylor University, Inexorably, out of these merger, economic merger, rises a political entity.
01:38:19.000Above it, maintain first and foremost the rules and regulations.
01:38:23.000And this is how the common market, the six-nation common market of 19, or European Coal and Steel Community of 1953, How it evolved into this giant transnational government, the European Union, and only now are you seeing French and Dutch rejecting the new European Constitution, rising up, as Americans are rising up, to say, thus far and no further, we're going to roll this back.
01:38:49.000We're not going to let these transnational governments rule our country.
01:38:53.000The most important thing we have is our nation, and that is independent.
01:38:58.000And that is unique, and it is different.
01:39:00.000And we don't want a shotgun marriage between the United States and Mexico.
01:39:04.000Now, you're an expert political strategist, so I can pose this question to you, Pat.
01:39:13.000We see a major realignment happening, whether Ron Paul wins or not.
01:39:18.000Regardless, we're seeing new forms of political activism on the web, raising record amounts of money.
01:39:23.000We're seeing the left even starting to wake up and join with libertarians, paleo-conservatives.
01:39:30.000We're seeing Congress with an all-time low approval rating of 11%.
01:39:36.000approval rating, the vice president with a 10% approval rating in Gallup.
01:39:40.000I mean, is that not a total realignment and a total implosion of the credibility of the government?
01:39:46.000But then the big corporate elites, the transnationals that pretty much own both parties, they are just like they're running a steamroller, juggernautting forward or saying they don't care.
01:39:58.000And in the future, what collision do you see between swelling populism and nationalism from Europe to the United States to Australia, How are they going to collide?
01:40:10.000Well, I think they collided this year in the Senate bill where Senator Kennedy and President Bush and John McCain and Harry Reid and the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal and La Raza and the Chamber of Commerce All colluded for a amnesty for the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens here.
01:40:33.000And not only that, buried in it was a amnesty, a complete exemption from all civil and criminal penalties of businesses who have hired, employed, knowingly illegal aliens.
01:40:45.000So the whole idea was to basically legitimize the invasion that's taken place and to exonerate the businesses and the others Who have hired these individuals, and basically to give a benediction to the folks that let them in and refused to enforce the laws.
01:41:01.000That tremendous uprising in the nation, among the American people, for the first time almost in my lifetime, overthrew the establishment of both parties.
01:41:10.000I fought against GATT, I fought against NAFTA, I fought against the WTO, and we had great coalitions, and we went up to the hill, but we were driven off the hill by the establishment uniting and buying the votes of the congressmen.
01:41:23.000This time, the force was so powerful, they were body-slammed.
01:41:28.000However, then the great coalition we formed together goes back home.
01:41:33.000The battle is over, the war is won, but the other side is coming back again, working night and day and night and day.
01:41:40.000Now, on this project, on the project of the Erasure of Borders and the Rest, They have gone, a lot of them have gone underground.
01:41:48.000But it is undeniable that the transnational corporations want to get rid of borders everywhere.
01:41:54.000They want the ability to move their trucks in and out with their goods in and out of the United States.
01:41:59.000And they also want to remove The old political systems, like when they set up a World Trade Organization in 1995 by private interest, it now supersedes the Congress because they hand over their authority.
01:42:10.000So it's more than just the cheap goods flooding into control markets.
01:42:15.000It's about a New World Order, isn't it?
01:42:17.000It really is, but I think, see, we've been guarding against the New World Order coming through the UN and something like that, but Russia and China are not going to Submit to the UN that everybody knows it is a corrupt institution, a bunch of third world thugs, and people stealing money, and all the rest of it.
01:42:38.000But the real power coming is the corporations have enormous power.
01:42:44.000Alex, of the top 100 entities in the country in terms of control of money and resources, half are corporations now, and half are countries.
01:42:54.000These transnational corporations Their objective is to erase all these borders.
01:42:58.000They work with legislatures incrementally.
01:43:01.000Now, what's happening in the U.S., as I say, is they've gone underground, so to speak, as in, oh, this is silly in the United States.
01:43:24.000I think Ron Paul's nomination run is outstanding in terms of awakening the establishment in Washington to a sentiment out there that people want their country back.
01:43:37.000They want to get out of this new world order.
01:43:52.000My concern is that the establishment, because it is working night and day, and it's minions down here in Washington, and the K Street crowd and the rest of them, who are working for these corporations, who are working for deeper integration of the United States and Europe and Japan and all the rest,
01:44:11.000That they are still enormously powerful, and it's hard to see how we've got a political leader who's going to win the presidency who is, A, aware of this, B, deeply concerned about it, and C, committed to blocking it at all costs and restoring and maintaining our national sovereignty.
01:44:28.000Pat, what tips would you give Ron Paul in his run for president?
01:44:36.000I would say he's probably better off focusing on New Hampshire.
01:44:40.000Than Iowa, because the Iowa thing is pretty much based on organization.
01:44:45.000I think he's going to do fine in Iowa, but I think he's got a real chance to do very well in New Hampshire, because I think a number of people will probably be eliminated in Iowa, and Ron Paul won't.
01:45:04.000Do not let them run you out if you lose Iowa and lose New Hampshire.
01:45:08.000You keep taking that message to the country, and you keep demanding debates.
01:45:13.000My guess is you'll be cut out of the debates.
01:45:15.000Not cut out, but they won't hold debates once you break out of New Hampshire.
01:45:19.000They're fairly rare, but stay in those debates with those guys.
01:45:23.000And keep your voice in that screen, because when they start cutting you out of the debates, then the country says, well, he's out of it, and let's look at what's left.
01:45:33.000So that's what I advise him to do, but he's run a fine campaign.
01:45:35.000Pat Buchanan, I want to shift gears and get more back into your book, Day of Reckoning, that just hit bookstore shelves just in time for Christmas.
01:45:41.000But before we do that, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, word for word, says Bush is over the states for domestic insurrection and rebellion.
01:45:50.000His PDD-51 says he's above Congress and continuity of government.
01:45:55.000Then he went to Canada three months ago, and I have the declaration.
01:45:58.000This was public, and said the UN is over the US during massive terror attacks or biological chemical releases.
01:46:05.000The Houston Chronicle's reporting they've built detention centers for the American people.
01:46:10.000They are federalizing more and more of the police.
01:46:16.000Running around saying, after one more attack, we go to martial law.
01:46:20.000I reported this a year and a half ago, it just came out two months ago, that preachers have been hired, 26,000 of them, and paid, I don't know if you're aware of this, to go tell their flocks to turn their guns in if they're told and submit to inoculations.
01:46:33.000The police state, which Hillary or whoever comes into power can use as well.
01:46:39.000I mean, can you speak to the type of attack?
01:46:43.000Gonzales saying there's no habeas corpus for citizens.
01:46:46.000Well, if he said that point blank, that's a constitutional right of every American citizen, and I know Lincoln suspended it on his own volition.
01:46:58.000During the Civil War, but it takes the Congress of the United States to do that.
01:47:01.000Remember, he was in the Senate, and he said, well, yeah, you don't necessarily as a citizen have a habeas corpus, yeah.
01:47:07.000I mean, what that's preposterous, and there is in the Constitution, the Congress can suspend it at certain times, but I don't believe this Congress is going to do that.
01:47:28.000You know, you are more familiar with this, I'll be honest, than I have, than I am, but I find it extraordinarily... I don't believe a country that rose up the way we did against that amnesty is going to go gentle into that good night.
01:47:43.000I just don't believe that, and I don't think the government, and I know there are folks in the military and others like that who aren't going to go along with anything like that, and I really am dubious that Bush or Cheney are going to try anything like that or anybody that went in there.
01:47:59.000I know what Tommy Frank said, I believe, was that if there's another 9-11, you know, in effect, we might pass legislation, basically, that interferes with the civil liberties of the American people.
01:48:14.000And I don't doubt if you had something like several 9-11s here, you would have a very changed society.
01:49:07.000I mean, it's not for sure, but the way she's reacting, the way she seems to be panicking, the way she's attacking Barack Obama for what he said in kindergarten, There's a sense in my mind that she's panicking a little bit over Iowa.
01:49:19.000Now, if she loses Iowa and wins New Hampshire, she's a Democratic nominee.
01:49:23.000But what I'm asking is, why have Republicans, certainly you know this, why have they been trying to position her?
01:49:30.000I think many of them think she'll probably be the easiest person to beat.
01:49:34.000That's why a lot of them are attacking her.
01:49:38.000I want to talk more about the book and how the illegal aliens are pulling down American flags at post offices, public schools, and how the media tries to cover this up.
01:49:46.000I mean, just how bad this reconquering of the Southwest is and how you think we should deal with this if you were president.
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01:53:01.000And you talk about hubris, greed, the rest of it, Pat.
01:53:06.000The establishment knows that they're using these illegal aliens and the tens of millions of legals as well to break down sovereignty so the corporates can control this country.
01:53:17.000But as you said, there's a huge realignment happening.
01:53:23.000Well, you know, we're going to have to wait and see in the election.
01:53:27.000Ron Paul is a wonderful man to have out there, and you've got Tom Tancredo, who is courageous on the borders, and frankly on the borders and on sovereignty and on trade.
01:53:40.000On fair trade and the idea of bringing the jobs home, Duncan Hunter is excellent.
01:53:46.000And my concern is, though, is that clearly I think that these fellas do understand a lot of this, and I'm not sure, however, that they're going to win it.
01:53:54.000So as you look at the presidential race, when it comes down to the end, I think you're either going to have Hillary or Barack Obama on one side, and my guess would be Romney or Rudy or Huckabee on the other.
01:54:34.000The amnesty bill showed how far out of touch they are.
01:54:37.000If Hillary gets in, there'll be the quote, path to citizenship, the security fence will not be built, there'll be some lax enforcement of the immigration laws, and a firestorm will build.
01:54:55.000I think we're going to find out when we bring home those five combat brigades.
01:54:59.000Clearly, Petraeus has succeeded in what he has done so far, and he's pacified Baghdad, or helped pacify it, and we've armed the Sunni militias out there, but what those fellows are going to do once they take care of al-Qaeda, who they're coming after, we're going to find out.
01:55:14.000My hope is, and it's a hope, is that we leave something standing over there that is united in at least some way, and is at least pro-Western.
01:55:25.000But that is a lot more than it is an expectation.
01:55:27.000Pat, in closing, the White House put this out three months ago, it had been in the news three years ago, that they're hiring, admitted, a number three man in Al-Qaeda, they have four different groups attacking the Iranians, and the news says the Iranians are Al-Qaeda, when they're the opposite group, Shiite, and you've got all these different warlords armed, and it's just going to go on and on, which was the original strategy that Israel wanted in the 80s, was to go in and break Iraq up in three parts!
01:55:53.000Well, the rack will break if they get a big haul.
01:55:56.000There's a sort of a neocon agenda just to get the whole thing to radicalize, dump it all over, and upset the whole chess table, and throw all the pieces on the floor.
01:56:07.000And I think that could be one of the results of this, the complete balkanization of that region.
01:57:58.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:58:03.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:08.000We're talking about the New World Order in the shower, we're talking about the European Union, its strategy of stealth, strategy of stealth integration on the North American continent, this new trade deal that Bush just got.
01:58:19.000Signed with Farouk, a big victory for the globalists, in a string of defeats.
01:58:25.000Dr. Corsi is one of the leading scholars on our side against the North American Union, and I wanted to get him on.
01:58:32.000At the bottom of the hour, we'll open the phones up on the North American Union.
01:58:35.000In fact, here's the number now, 1-800-259-9231, if you want to get lined up.
01:58:42.000Specifically, I'm asking to talk about these issues.
01:58:46.000I want to get Dr. Courtsey on today to give us an update on Ramos and Campeon as well, the Valiant Border Patrol agents being framed and set up.
01:58:54.000But before we do that, I want to get into the North American Union and CNN saying Ron Paul's a liar, that the Trans-Texas Corridor doesn't exist when there's the official Trans-Texas Corridor state website with the feds.
01:59:06.000They say it's part of the Napa Superhighway.
01:59:08.000I have the federal government saying it.
01:59:10.000I have the Canadian government here in front of me.
01:59:18.000I mean, and I know I keep responding to this because folks, we've got to get out and warn the public.
01:59:25.000That this is a massive hoax, and if we use this hoax they perpetrated as a way to discredit them as an opportunity, we can save this country.
01:59:33.000If we let them engage in this hoax and win, they're going to be able to go ahead and finish this thing up.
01:59:42.000And I'm just writing a piece right now for World Net Daily tomorrow.
01:59:46.000You know, this Newsweek, the current issue, this Gretchel Kovach, I did a hit piece on Ron Paul and on World Ed Daily and me on this.
01:59:56.000You know, Ron Paul at the debate, the CNN debate, responded to the question about the North American Union by affirming that the globalists were planning to create a North American Union.
02:00:07.000And he referred to the NAFTA superhighway and used evidence, you know, Governor Perry vetoing the trans-Texas corridor, the legislation that was going to block the trans-Texas corridor.
02:00:19.000Governor Perry must have vetoed six bills the Texas legislature almost unanimously passed.
02:00:25.000And he vetoed those bills just before the legislature went out of session or when it was out of session.
02:00:35.000And these bills were going to put a two-year moratorium in the Trans-Texas corridor.
02:00:38.000They were going to revise eminent domain in Texas to make it prohibitively expensive to buy the, you know, to get the land for this highway.
02:01:04.000I mean, this traces back to when George Bush at Montebello, at the SPP meeting, was asked that question by the Fox News reporter, whether the Security and Prosperity Partnership was going to lead to a North American Union and NAFTA superhighways, and Bush did not answer the question.
02:01:20.000He didn't say, here's the reason it could never happen.
02:01:23.000He just poo-pooed it and said, well, it's a conspiracy theory.
02:01:27.000And, you know, the problem is, Alex, we've known since the days of ancient Greek rhetoric that ridicule is the last refuge of a scoundrel in a debate.
02:01:37.000When President Bush could not answer the question by logic or evidence or argumentation, he called us all a name.
02:01:44.000And that's, you know, an attempt to have people not listen to what we're saying, But it doesn't answer the question.
02:01:50.000Ridicule is a low form of argumentation.
02:01:53.000We have thousands of government websites, Mexico, Canada, U.S.
02:02:01.000Now they're saying that doesn't exist.
02:02:03.000What does CNN and Fox and MSNBC think Texans are going to do when they see the billboards everywhere and they're announcing it, and Perry's having press conferences and CNN says it doesn't exist?
02:02:13.000Well, and I've got 30 pages in the late, great USA.
02:02:17.000And as you know, they document the websites in which all this is happening.
02:02:24.000We'll be right back with Dr. Jerome Corsi to go over the evidence for those that may not know specifically what it is.
02:02:32.000I don't have time to play the Parliament in Canada and legislatures and Vicente Fox and Pastor admitting it all.
02:02:39.000It's all documented in Endgame and in Late Great USA.
02:02:43.000But we're going to walk through some of the other evidence.
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02:06:37.000And then the CFR writes books and puts out policy reports, and the editors of Time Magazine write articles about it, and they say it's all great and good, and literally thousands of quotes stating it and saying it and merging the bureaucracies.
02:06:49.000And then they use this military tactic of cloaking, of just flat-out lying.
02:06:55.000And Dr. Corsi, do you agree we need to press this issue and maybe challenge these Boston Globe writers to debates?
02:07:04.000I think I should have tried to get that guy on with you.
02:07:05.000To force the issue out into the open because this is actually an opportunity for those of us that know how to go to the official government websites and know how to look at billboards and know how to... Oh!
02:07:21.000And here's another point before I forget.
02:07:26.000And secondarily, earlier this year, you wrote about businesses in the Southwest and Texas who have employees getting state labor department forms demanding that they sign up with the North American New ID.
02:07:42.000I've got eight employees here in Austin, and I got that last week, sir.
02:07:46.000Demanding I fill out all these questions for this new organization no longer reporting through the state to the federal Department of Labor, but now to this new international body.
02:07:56.000Yes, we got now North American job classifications, and it's been reorganized.
02:08:02.000To answer your first question, Alex, I'm going after Newsweek in an article that I hope to be published on Thursday or Friday, tomorrow or Friday, in World Net Daily.
02:08:14.000Newsweek wrote this piece Again, ridiculing Ron Paul in the debate and ridiculing me for proposing this NAFTA superhighway in the North American Union.
02:08:23.000I just got off the phone with State Senator Randy Brogdon in Oklahoma, and he just said, you know, Senate Joint Resolution 22 was submitted to the Oklahoma Legislature in 1995, and it called for the creation of a NAFTA superhighway by name.
02:08:44.000I'm getting, I'm going to get a hold of that state, that Senate Joint Resolution 22 this afternoon, and I'll be able to post that and link to it on the site.
02:08:54.000But I mean, there's plenty of evidence.
02:08:56.000Randy Brogan's been fighting for two years in the state legislature to block laws that have been introduced to extend the trans-Texas corridor north.
02:09:53.000He says down in, you know, up in the meeting in Montebello, Quebec, it's asked by a Fox News reporter, a third summit meeting of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, if SPP is going to lead to a North American Union or NAFTA superhighways.
02:10:06.000And President Bush says, that's just a conspiracy theory.
02:10:10.000So now then, we get a bunch of articles.
02:10:12.000I think that word went out for the White House to attack this by ridiculing it.
02:10:17.000And, you know, Michael Medved has been launching this crusade on the radio.
02:10:51.000They say it's already being built, but then we go to their website and go, look, the government, the government says, and they go, you're crazy, that doesn't exist.
02:10:59.000Well, you know, take a look at this Newsweek article, because if you go through it, There were comments posted in Newsweek.
02:11:09.000And every one of these comments was critical of a Newsweek article.
02:11:11.000People say, this is why I cancelled my subscription to Newsweek 10 years ago.
02:11:16.000They say this reporter didn't do her homework and didn't do her research.
02:11:21.000They're linking, the people commenting and responding to this Newsweek article on the Newsweek website are, they're linking to the Council on Foreign Relations report on building a North American Union.
02:11:32.000They're linking to the Trans-Texas Corridor website.
02:11:36.000They're linking to, when Vincente Fox was with Larry King, Promoting his book, and he's telling the Larry King Live Show, he admitted that there was a plan to create a regional currency out of NAFTA.
02:11:48.000Well, that's the issue here, is that mainstream newspapers, mainstream magazines, TV, their ratings are all imploding.
02:11:56.000They're now saying that Ron Paul and others, they've named you, I've got a bunch of these newscasts where they say, quote, he is a figment of his imagination, he's mentally ill, And Ron Paul drives around on Texas roads where the signs are everywhere, put up by the state.
02:12:10.000I mean, this is such a bold hoax, Dr. Corsi.
02:12:14.000What I think, Alex, is it's a coordinated attack.
02:12:18.000I think it comes out of the White House.
02:12:20.000To find reporters, Newsweek, we've had a hit piece in Nation Magazine and other reporters saying the NAFTA highway didn't exist.
02:12:30.000I think the White House is doing everything it can to recruit people on this theme to write about that this is a hoax, that NAFTA Superhighway doesn't exist, and it's in large part because we're being as successful as we are at getting people to look at the evidence.
02:12:45.000I've got 30 pages in the late great USA with government footnotes in there, and I did it on the theme, Alex, that it's like the country western song.
02:12:54.000You know, it's the woman finds the husband in bed with another woman.
02:12:58.000And before the lying starts, the husband says, dear, this is not what you think it is.
02:13:03.000You know, we're going to get the explanation.
02:13:09.000She can believe what her husband's going to tell her or her own lying eyes.
02:13:13.000And, you know, I'm confident that when the American public take the time to look at the government websites, the denials that are coming out for the government are going to look you know, like lies and just an effort to hide the truth, which is what it is.
02:13:27.000Well, Dr. Courtesy, what, four or five months ago, they said you can't see the Senate amnesty bill.
02:13:41.000And then when Senator Sessions leaked it, it was worse.
02:13:44.000And Pat Buchanan just agreed in the last hour, didn't agree, brought it up himself, that it was literally a pardon for criminals, both employers and aggravated felony legal aliens, And so they got caught lying on that, and so just more and more, this seems like total desperation.
02:14:03.000The Texas Department of Transportation refused for the longest time to publish, you know, the agreement they'd made with Cintra, C-I-N-T-R-A, the investment consortium in Spain that's going to put this highway in place.
02:14:17.000And finally, a lawsuit forced the Texas Department of Transportation to publish the agreement.
02:14:24.000And when it was published, it was shocking.
02:14:25.000The non-compete agreement, the concessions that Central was going to get revenue promised by this highway.
02:14:32.000It's just a handover for campaign contributions of the infrastructure.
02:14:35.000And the campaign cut doesn't trace the campaign contribution.
02:14:38.000Perry has gotten Strong campaign contributions, not just from Sintra and Zachary, the construction firm that's going to build the highway, but from Bracewell and Giuliani.
02:14:48.000Go check how many contributions Bracewell and Giuliani have made to Governor Perry, and that's the law firm of Rudy Giuliani that is the sole legal representative of Sintra in the United States.
02:15:00.000But if you ask Rudy Giuliani about NAFTA superhighways, he's going to deny it too.
02:15:05.000They don't, any of them, want anybody looking into the money trail.
02:15:09.000How can CNN and several other cable networks say that the Trans-Texas Corridor Doesn't exist.
02:15:18.000Well, it's ridiculous, because CNN's also got Lou Dobbs on it, and Lou Dobbs has been strongly on this theme, you know, supporting the idea that the North American Union and the NAFTA superhighways are reality.
02:15:30.000Did you see the report where they had, like, six talking heads on there?
02:15:33.000All in little squares, like the Brady Bunch, and they were all laughing and saying, these people are nuts!
02:15:41.000With, you know, Charles Krauthammer and the others in this round table on the light show on Fox, and Krauthammer sitting there saying, oh, none of this is true, and then admitting he went to a Bilderberger conference.
02:15:55.000I mean, sure, it's nothing going on there, but why did he go to the Bilderberg conference?
02:16:01.000And how does anybody know that there was nothing going on when those records are also kept secret and not allowed to be published?
02:16:08.000Well, Dr. Coors, do you remember ten years ago when they would say in the news that the Bilderberg didn't exist?
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02:20:53.000The world is pressing toward a forced one-world religion.
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02:21:02.000Americans will have to give up their peculiar beliefs and accept what the new world religious leaders prescribe.
02:21:07.000In 2005, President Bush signed the Real ID Act, which goes into effect May 11, 2008.
02:21:13.000Many people believe that this will be the mark of the beast because of the restrictive measures included, which seems to parallel the no buying and selling of Revelations 13, 17.
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02:22:01.000Don't forget that they formed the European Union by stealth, and I guess they'll deny it exists next.
02:22:08.000And then they keep trying to get England to join, they try to package it under different laws, different treaties, and the people keep saying no, and the documents have come out that they have a stealth approach there.
02:22:20.000And they're doing it here, and it doesn't matter if they've had joint sessions of Congress in Mexico, it doesn't matter if they've had these big meetings.
02:22:27.000You watch these on C-SPAN, they come right out and say it's all happening.
02:22:33.000I mean, there's a great book, Christopher Booker and Richard North, called The Great Deception.
02:22:38.000It's an exhaustive treatment of how the European Union was formed, and it documents the stealth plan.
02:22:44.000They have John Monet, who knew he wanted to be the Frenchman.
02:22:48.000He didn't want Germany to rise up with another army.
02:22:50.000He thought he needed to end the sovereignty of Germany.
02:22:54.000But he couldn't announce that, so he started with the Coal and Steel Agreement in 1957, figuring if Europe controlled the coal and steel, Germany could not have another army, and believing that the economic agreements would lead to the regional necessity for political, legal, and judicial structures that would solve the international trade disputes the European Common Market would necessitate happening.
02:23:17.000And all through this, the strategy in Europe was to deny That anything was being planned more than a common market.
02:23:26.000And that's the same strategy that is being taken right now by the Bush administration and those who have this North American integration effort.
02:23:34.000I mean, you know, just this past week I wrote about the North American Forum.
02:23:40.000George Shultz having another meeting, Robert Pastor attending it from American University, down in Cancun, a closed-door session.
02:23:49.000And again, we got the agenda of the meeting.
02:23:52.000And the meeting is all about North American integration.
02:24:22.000I've published, on page 81 of the book, the organizational chart of the SPP working groups, reporting up to three cabinet secretaries of each government, and into the White House, through the National Security Council and the Homeland Security Council, to the President.
02:24:38.000But I got that chart, the organizational chart, from a Freedom of Information Act request.
02:24:43.000The federal government doesn't publish it anywhere.
02:24:45.000And, you know, if I can get the chart through a Freedom of Information Act request, But it's not published.
02:24:51.000That, to me, is the documentation of a shadow government trilateral bureaucracy already in place.
02:24:57.000Why is the government ashamed to publish the organizational chart of the SPP Working Groups that it uses internally?
02:25:13.000Says that all this is is a dialogue between three countries.
02:25:17.000I've got 2,000 pages in my file drawer of emails, memos, and meetings that SPP.gov has held.
02:25:24.000I got them through a Freedom of Information Act request.
02:25:27.000And, you know, the deniers want you to believe that if you click that SPP.gov website the right way, it's going to start playing you Bobby McFerrin music.
02:25:40.000Well, that's what they're doing, and if you go to the SQP site, they'll have a debunking myth section that lies, but then right there on their own site is all the facts.
02:25:51.000Go to read the 2005 and 2006 report to the leaders.
02:25:56.000Look for the discussion of the trusted traders and trusted travelers.
02:26:00.000You'll see their preparation to start issuing what will amount to a North American passport.
02:26:05.000North American Union passport is right there.
02:26:08.000Have you heard the state of Manitoba's State of the State address where the head of the legislature just says, we're merging, it's wonderful, and he just says it all.
02:26:21.000Yeah, it's been on the internet, it's on, I've watched it two or three times now.
02:26:26.000Also, I mean, go to SPP.gov and there's Trusted Trader, Trusted Traveler.
02:26:30.000I have an article today in World Met Daily about the Mexican trucks again.
02:26:36.000They're coming across an SPP-created fast lanes with SPP-issued electronic identification as trusted traders of North America in this Department of Transportation, you know, Mexican truck demonstration project.
02:26:51.000We've now got about 10 Mexican trucking companies sending their rigs north on all this SPP-approved fast lanes.
02:27:00.000And I documented today the owner-operator's Trucking Association, Oneida, They're filing a suit to block this.
02:27:08.000And they document hundreds of safety violations of these Mexican trucks.
02:27:13.000But they're still coming across the border every day.
02:27:15.000Because they're under international rules, not domestic, but then those trucks don't exist either.
02:27:22.000But really, the tactic the establishment is using is denying all this so we spend our time proving it exists instead of just removing it.
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02:34:29.000Going back to Dr. Courtesy and then to the loaded phones, Dr. Courtesy, going into the break, I wanted to know your ideas for solutions.
02:34:39.000I mean, all day we sit here and try to prove it to the people.
02:34:42.000The people are starting to wake up to it.
02:34:46.000Because I know through different international agreements, they come in and set up regulatory systems at the county, city, state level.
02:34:52.000They fly our city managers, county commissioners, the National Association of Counties, governors, You know, the bonding houses literally give them higher ratings and they'll sign on to this.
02:35:04.000As Pat Buchanan said last hour, with now almost half of the top 100 economies being corporations, they're just looting us old-fashioned style, like the British East India Company.
02:35:17.000I think, Alex, it's starting at a grassroots level.
02:35:20.000We've got some 14 states that have passed resolutions saying, no North American unions, no NAFTA superhighways.
02:35:27.000We've got legislators like Randy Brogdon in Oklahoma, and groups like Oklahoma Safe, which is organizing to block the NAFTA Superhighway, the Trans-Texas Corridor, from coming into Oklahoma.
02:35:38.000The grassroots are, I think, where the difference is going to be made.
02:35:41.000And as people, as we go into what I strongly suspect is going to be a very serious economic downturn, a major recession that we're headed into, as millions of people lose their homes.
02:35:53.000You know, Alan Blinder, this, Economist at Princeton who advised Bill Clinton to get NAFTA passed, he said, we're going to lose 40 million jobs in the next two decades, largely to China and to India, and this outsourcing to slaves.
02:36:10.000I think as people lose their jobs, as states like Ohio and Michigan, you know, become echoes of their former self, look like Appalachia, as Chrysler goes over and Works with Cherry, this Chinese company that manufactures cars and shuts down car manufacturing in Detroit.
02:36:30.000These are going to impact people's lives and these sufferings, these economic hardships, as the middle class gets disassembled in the United States.
02:36:37.000People are going to wake up and say, there's got to be a reason for this.
02:36:41.000You know, there's 10% of Mexico's population living in the United States.
02:36:45.000We've got 47 Mexican... By the way, that's all the Fed's own numbers, which are probably twice that.
02:36:51.000Even the Fed's numbers say it's going to be 20% in 2010.
02:36:55.000I didn't vote for 10% of Mexico's population to live here.
02:36:59.000It's a fait accompli created in the incremental method.
02:37:03.000And as people see this and say, why are we six years into a war on terror and our borders aren't yet secured?
02:37:11.000Why are we letting Mexican trucks come across the border?
02:37:14.000When President Bush wants to give $1.4 billion to Mexico to fight the drug war.
02:37:20.000And Dr. Corsi, isn't that why they're rushing right now to try to get the MSU to try to get the Napa Superhighway in?
02:37:25.000Because they know that their window of opportunity is closing because as their globalist policies hurt the people, that's going to form more resistance.
02:37:36.000Alex, the reason we're getting this blowback about conspiracy theory is that there's two things.
02:37:42.000One, you know, the globalists pushing this agenda are being hurt by the exposure.
02:37:47.000Exposure, I think both now President Bush and Stephen Harper are afraid to come out and openly support SPP, and I challenge them to do that or close it down.
02:37:57.000They won't do it because they know they'll lose political capital just mentioning SPP.
02:38:03.000George Bush does not stop talking about Mexico.
02:38:06.000You know, if we go into the elections in 2008, and Rommel and Compey and the Border Patrol agents are still in prison, the Republican Party is going to lose the White House and two-thirds of the House and Senate.
02:38:18.000And it isn't going to be because people like Democrats.
02:38:21.000You know, if Hillary Clinton gets elected, I'm saying she'll be another globalist, Bush-Clinton dynasty, so let her get inaugurated on January 20th, let's start the impeachment proceedings on January 21st.
02:38:33.000Alright, let's shift gears on the economy, because I know, real fast, give folks your credentials on what's happening with the markets.
02:38:39.000Well, I mean, I've got a Harvard PhD in political science, I've studied economics, including at Harvard.
02:38:48.000All the NASD, National Security Association licenses, I've created two broker-dealers.
02:38:54.000I've worked 25 years in financial services with banks around the world.
02:39:00.000You're saying the same thing, Ron Paul.
02:39:02.000Same thing Dr. Paul Gregg-Roberts is saying.
02:39:04.000And if we've got derivatives, by the way, at over $1,000 trillion, I mean, the banks... It's hard to know how massive the derivatives are, but even with the
02:39:17.000Even with the sub-prime collateralized loan obligations from the housing industry, and the collateralized loan obligations from commercial paper, Alex, I think that half of the banks in the United States, including some of the largest ones, like Citibank, if they had to mark these collateralized mortgage obligations as debt obligations, these securities they're holding in their asset portfolio, they wouldn't have the reserves that they need to continue operating.
02:39:45.000Half the banks in the United States today, if they had to honestly mark their assets to market with all this junk securities on debt obligations that they're holding, half the banks would have to admit we don't have the capital to keep going.
02:40:02.000Now states are demanding tens of billions back because they're finding out that the big brokerage houses and others have sold them supposed AAA corporate paper that's actual trash.
02:40:15.000They did this in the commercial paper market, where the corporations were going to buy and leverage buyouts or leverage purchases of other companies or finances.
02:40:26.000They gave AAA paper ratings to junk bonds and corporate bonds that should have been rated junk, because they packaged them together in these securities and Wall Street sold them.
02:40:40.000This could gyrate into This could be worse than the depression.
02:40:46.000You've got probably three to six trillion dollars of bad, collateralized securities that are held today by banks, pension funds, Well, it's happening right now.
02:41:13.000I mean, when Citibank has to go to Abu Dhabi and get, you know, $7.5 billion to keep in business, to promise them an 11% return on that investment and give them a percentage of Citibank in the process.
02:41:27.000I mean, this is, I think what they get, 7.5% of Citibank and Abu Dhabi gave them $20 billion with some transaction of that nature.
02:41:37.000That's a, we can't continue in business unless we bring in the petrodollars.
02:41:43.000It's selling out the United States to foreign interests because Citibank is broke.
02:41:48.000And as you know, big investment firms are coming in and buying that AAA paper now, at the top, at 26 cents on the dollar.
02:41:55.000And, you know, you've got funds out there.
02:41:59.000Even China, with our massive trade deficit, and all our companies going madly to get Chinese slaves to produce the goods, is an immoral and bad business.
02:42:11.000China's now got $1.4 trillion in foreign exchange reserves, 80% of it's in dollars.
02:42:17.000They've announced they don't want to hold so many dollars.
02:42:19.000And it's clearly accelerating in the worsening climate.
02:42:23.000When do you see it hitting a point where it really descends quickly?
02:42:43.000When will confidence be lost and we see a real plunge?
02:42:46.000I'd say by the end of this year, two months from now, when increasingly they have to rate their financial reports at the end of the year, when the CEOs have to, under Oxley Sarbanes, fess up to some reality, I expect that the first quarter next year is going to be a very down quarter.
02:43:05.000And then it'll be openly admitted that we're in a recession.
02:43:08.000What happens when the credit card debt average of $25,000 plus per person comes in?
02:43:13.000What happens when all these other leveraged negative securities, you know, where they're loaning out ten times the money off of debts?
02:43:21.000I mean, what happens when that... It's a house of cards.
02:43:56.000Why are they now saying things that even laymen know, that cutting interest rates will drive the dollar down, and then they go, no, it's good.
02:44:03.000Well, they've come, you know, the government has taken lying as a public policy.
02:44:07.000It's like when they report inflation, the Consumer Price Index.
02:44:11.000They've taken out energy and food when they report core inflation.
02:44:17.000If they were reporting today, The Consumer Price Index, if the government reported that the way they did in the 1980s, the same formulas, they'd have to be telling people we have 12 to 14 percent inflation right now.
02:44:33.000You know, if it doesn't cost $65 or $75 to get a tank of gas, you know, that's shocking, and that's where we're at, and they're saying we're at zero inflation or 2 percent.
02:45:28.000Yeah, Leo, listen, I asked politely at the start of the interview, not because I thought somebody like you would call in, but I want to talk about the North American Union, the economy, the state of the country.
02:45:38.000Okay, and you know, Dr. Corsi writes for Human Events, World Net Daily, a bunch of other stuff.
02:45:58.000I was going to say, Dr. Corsi already brought him up.
02:46:01.000It was the disc jockey, Michael Medvick.
02:46:04.000I've listened to his show a few times to get the other side of what their propaganda is being spread.
02:46:10.000He mentioned that he would give up his show for a day if someone could come on and prove there was Uh, effort to form a North American Union.
02:46:19.000But see, but see, that's a, that's a huckster scam.
02:46:22.000You know, money back guarantee, whatever.
02:46:24.000That's a scam where he just acts like no one can disprove it, and then he'll just say they haven't proven it satisfactorily to him.
02:46:48.000He wants to name-call and go into rants and raves, and my answer to that is, you know, there's doctors who can handle that problem if he's got, you know, anger control or emotional problems.
02:46:59.000That Twit Medved is a hack for the White House and the neocons, and he can just continue to say it doesn't exist when the base of his audience knows it does.
02:47:09.000I mean, he's only hurting himself, Doctor.
02:47:11.000Well, you know, it's pathetic to have to engage in such name-calling in order to advance an argument.
02:47:18.000I'm saying there are issues here, there's facts, there's evidence, and I'm happy to discuss the evidence on an honest basis.
02:47:25.000That's what Michael Medved will not do anymore than George Bush will do, and the American people are looking at the footnotes You know, in late great USA, they're going to the government website and they're believing their own lying eyes.
02:48:17.000I'm saying the people running the UN and running these globalist organizations openly in all their documents say they want to forcibly reduce world population by 80%.
02:48:26.000Well, he's probably not 90 or some BS, but... But see, everybody knows about Dr. Bianca and Peter Singer and all these people.
02:48:33.000Well, as you say, he don't want to face the truth.
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02:52:41.000Well, I thought I'd mention about their, uh, is that, uh, There was a presidential debate back in September, didn't get a lot of media coverage, a value voter debate, where none of the frontrunners were there, all the second tier people were there, Huckabee and them?
02:52:56.000And they asked a question about the North American Union there, and they all answered it, and all of them were aware of it and said they opposed it.
02:53:03.000Yet in that mainstream CNN debate, they tried to make Ron Paul look like a lone nut Like the only one who would even think something that crazy.
02:53:14.000And that question was asked by Phyllis Schlafly, who is an extremely prominent, well-respected conservative, who for decades has led conservative causes.
02:53:25.000And Phyllis Schlafly asked the question at the value debate about the North American Union.
02:53:30.000And Ron Paul, by the way, was there as in the CNN debate.
02:55:17.000Yes, she is the Department of Commerce Administrator who's in charge of the SPP working groups.
02:55:26.000She's the Chief on coordinating the information.
02:55:29.000I asked someone at the Department of Commerce, who's got a Korean name, I don't have it in front of me, what is the legal authority for SPP and she had She basically spent 10 minutes evading that answer.
02:55:43.000Pepper them with those and don't take their nonsense for answers.
02:55:46.000Make them answer the questions you ask.