Big Brother and the media are covering up the truth about the government's dumbing down of the population. Big Brother wants answers. You want answers? Well, so does Alex Jones. He's on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, we'll be going over the latest global economy news right here in the United States. We have Bob Chapman popping in for a 15 minute interview in about 30 minutes. International Forecaster, international analyst, and economic true analyst, Charlotte Thompson-Isserby, is back on the show. We haven't had her on in over 10 years and she hasn't been on in about 2. So I thought why not get her back up and continue the series we're doing here with John Taylor Gatto on education.
00:00:58.000So I thought, why not get her back up and continue the series we're doing here, yesterday with John Taylor Gatto on education, from their own source documents, how they're dumbing down the population.
00:01:12.000How they took us from the most intelligent people in the world with the highest test scores, dwarfing any other nation, to being the dumbest in the industrialized and behind 20-plus third-world nations in the rankings as well.
00:01:26.000People growing up in dirt-floored huts in tiny villages are getting better educations than the American people.
00:01:34.000And the reason I decided to get Charlotte on today was that I tend to go to YouTube every night, and I type my name, Alex Jones, in, and I hit date added to see what the latest videos and clips are.
00:01:48.000And I went in there, and I saw this little individual who implies that he's going to school to be a social worker.
00:01:57.000He's 30-something years old, I guess, and still in school doing that from what he implied.
00:02:02.000And he just said that, I believe space aliens run everything.
00:02:06.000I believe George Bush is with space aliens.
00:02:10.000We don't talk about space aliens here.
00:02:13.000And he went on to say that we're just making it up that social workers have called the family a disease and said that it has to be eradicated and that everyone's mentally ill who is part of a family and that the state has to re-educate us.
00:02:30.000But he did issue a challenge that last night and this morning I have yet to be unable to meet.
00:02:40.000And that is about five years ago Bob Dacey came to me.
00:03:08.000And knew him when he was a little kid.
00:03:12.000Grown-up man and a cop down in Houston, but long story short, Bob came in, and now Bob's only here eight, nine years, one of my great proteges, very proud of Bob Dacy, and he came in with a textbook down to the TV station.
00:03:27.000He gave me photocopies of it, and it was Calhoun Readers Social Working something, and it was the textbook used at ACC and UT.
00:04:21.000But that means if I forget to not talk about this in the third hour and you posted it in the PrisonPlanet.com message board, you need to call in and tell me where it is so I can go find it.
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00:10:52.000Okay, let me just stop and go back to what I was saying before the break.
00:10:55.000I remember about four or five months ago, I got on air and I mentioned stories that I've covered many times over the years.
00:11:03.000And I've talked about how the states, under federal guidelines and federal grants, from Detroit to Dallas, Texas, from New York City to Los Angeles, California, I mean, every major city I've seen, there have been lawsuits and cases, I see them pop up every few months, where if a police officer now has over 100 IQ, they don't hire you, and that's done, we have the documents, because they found people over 100 IQ, over average intelligence,
00:11:54.000Well what happens is, If I've already covered something 30, 40, 50, 60 times with the actual news articles, I will then get into shorthand on the air, and I will say, yeah, they won't hire cops if they've got over 100 IQ.
00:12:08.000That's been that policy for at least a decade, that we know of.
00:12:12.000There have been national TV programs about it, trying to spin it.
00:12:15.000And sure enough, our great listeners, when I mentioned it, went into the PrisonPlanet.com forums and literally found dozens and dozens of stories and articles and mainstream reports.
00:12:30.000When I get up here and I say the Mexican Attorney General made his employees take implantable microchips, that was in MSNBC, Associated Press, Reuters.
00:12:49.000And frankly, before you just say I'm making something up, you should go Google it and search it out for yourself.
00:12:55.000But maybe since I mentioned that, we should just post it right there in the forum.
00:12:59.000But the people that are saying these things, I don't even think that they're out there themselves lying, calling me a liar.
00:13:08.000I think they really think I'm making this up.
00:13:11.000They can't believe that the Mexican Attorney General took a microchip and made his employees take one.
00:13:16.000I don't think they believe that the California Bureau of Prisons in 2003 tried to make its prisoners take it, Reuters reported.
00:13:23.000There was a backlash and lawsuits and then they backed off.
00:13:26.000I don't think when I talk about civilian inmate labor camp programs and the admissions of secret concentration camps from 86 until 96, declassified in 96, I think people hear that and they just think it's a lie.
00:13:40.000Why don't you type civilian inmate labor camp program into Google?
00:13:45.000You will find out I'm telling the truth.
00:13:47.000Now, occasionally, I go back from something 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12 years ago, 13 years ago, 15 years ago, because I was politically active and, you know, fighting the New World Order two years before I got on air, and it's so many years ago, I can't even find it.
00:15:19.000Now John Taylor Gatto read the Hillary Clinton quote, footnoted from his free book, at JohnTaylorGatto.com yesterday, where he came on and talked about Hillary saying the family was a primitive, you know, bad institution.
00:15:32.000I know that we've got official Department of Education documents where they said they wanted to remove the family from being in control.
00:15:41.000So I just went ahead and set Charlotte Iserby up today for the third hour to address this.
00:15:49.000In fact, let's just go ahead and play the first minute of this guy.
00:15:52.000And again, he's just indicative of the average person.
00:15:56.000I believe he really believes I'm lying.
00:16:00.000I believe that he really thinks I'm making this up.
00:16:03.000And I guess in his social working classes or whatever he took at college, he implies it was social working.
00:16:09.000He says he never read this in his social working books, but he didn't come across this.
00:16:15.000It's said in different ways throughout the literature.
00:16:17.000I mean, I've got in Endgame the quotes of him talking about taking over the family and mass drugging the population.
00:16:23.000I mean, there's hundreds and hundreds of these quotes and statements, but let's just hear the very first of this, where he, out of the gates, though, Says that I say that space aliens run things, and that George Bush is working with space aliens.
00:17:06.000First off, I want to say that Alex Jones nuts.
00:17:10.000This is the same guy who does Prison Planet, and we all know it for gems like Aliens are Invading, you know, Bush is an Alien, just weird, off-the-wall crap like that.
00:17:23.000And this video is a perfect example of what this guy is all about.
00:17:28.000Absolutely perfect, and I just spelled it out for you.
00:17:32.000First of all, why are police and social workers in a children's classroom bad?
00:17:37.000And I don't think they mean, like, right in the classroom, but working with teachers, I don't know why that would be a bad thing.
00:17:44.000I mean, you know, schools are, in and of themselves, designed in part to catch things like abuse, or Childhood did all the problems.
00:18:14.000Said that you're five times more likely to be abused in foster care or in the CPS, Child Protective Services system.
00:18:21.000It's the most dangerous place for children.
00:18:25.000And, you know, he probably thinks I'm lying when I say AP reported in Michigan they threw fake blood on kids and set off fake bombs with smoke and told them that the homeschool defense league quote against public education, that was in the news, was going to kill them.
00:18:43.000Or that they come in unannounced and make the children urinate on themselves in SWAT team drills Or that it was in the Pensacola News Journal that Marines came in, aimed guns at them, and said, Bill Clinton wants you to know what martial law is like.
00:19:11.000I had the teacher and her lawyer on, where they came into the portable buildings, aimed guns at them, told them they were going to kill them, marched them out of the woods.
00:19:28.000This is the type of brainwashing and trauma that's going on in these schools.
00:19:34.000Or Swansboro, North Carolina, the police dogs grabbing the bags, ripping them open, all on school surveillance cameras, looking for drugs, no drugs found.
00:19:42.000They're indoctrination centers for putting kids into the prison system.
00:19:46.000Cameras in bathrooms aren't good, little boy.
00:19:56.000But he just goes on to say it's not true.
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00:24:52.000a proud and proud By the 1850s they'd set up the first social worker battalions in England.
00:24:59.000They picked up the very same ideas by the 1880s in the U.S.
00:25:04.000through eugenics and they forcibly took tens of thousands of Native American youth from all the major tribes and they put them on trains from out west From the East, they'd take them up to huge training centers.
00:25:54.000And I'm sick of you making jokes about everything that's happening and everything that's going on around us, just because you're little kids, mentally, and you don't know about the real world, and you're not aware of the horrors that are taking place.
00:26:08.000And they practice it all on the blacks, they practice it on the natives, and by the way, they're doing it to everybody now.
00:26:14.000There's a lot of yuppies and a lot of know-it-alls.
00:26:16.000I was talking to a friend just last week and she was talking about her sister who's a prosecutor in Fort Worth.
00:26:23.000And she was talking about a documentary out about toxic waste in China and the industry and how the deformities are up and the children are dying.
00:26:30.000And she just said, and how does that affect me, what's happening in China?
00:26:37.000You know, that woman, I'm sure, engages in tyranny every day up in Fort Worth and just enjoys herself on a big fat power trip, but she takes the shots and she drinks the fluoride and she feels like she's part of the system.
00:26:50.000This same system's chewing your very soul out, lady.
00:26:55.000So you go ahead and make jokes and say they didn't take the Native Americans and destroy their culture.
00:27:01.000You know, the government, 250 years ago,
00:27:05.000The British government, the French government, openly in textbooks, in field manuals, talked about how they could go into a smallpox area, go into people's homes that had smallpox, and how they could get the blankets, because again, Europeans have been dealing with it for tens of thousands of years, so they weren't as susceptible, they just got sick generally, and how they could take it and give it to the natives, and how it was a good way to wipe them out.
00:27:35.000That didn't start in the 1860s out west.
00:27:39.000That was being done in Canada, what's Canada today, in French Canada, in British Canada, and in British Colonial, what is the United States, original 13, and into the wilderness areas.
00:27:53.000Going into Ohio and Iowa and going even further out into Illinois, going into Michigan, Going into Tennessee.
00:28:06.000By the way, they even got it on Discovery Channel now.
00:28:09.000I won't watch a lot of TV, but I happened to flip it on a few months ago.
00:28:12.000I even saw them admitting, what I already read in history books, that the Huns knew how to take somebody who had the plague, or they knew how to take somebody who had smallpox, and they would catapult their rotten bodies over the wall when they were running sieges against the Chinese.
00:29:00.000We can just trust the government and do whatever they say.
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00:29:13.000I mean, I only mention that because people won't believe me, they'll believe New Scientist.
00:29:16.000Doesn't matter if the American Medical Association and the American Dental Association since 2005 have said children shouldn't drink fluoride and shouldn't brush their teeth with it.
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00:34:04.000I'm not going to play it all, because I want to go to Bob Chapman.
00:34:06.000Now I'll give you the economic outlook, what's happening.
00:34:08.000The stock market's up right now, as he predicted it would, but that was at the cost of a 75 basis points cut, which is decimating the dollar.
00:34:16.000Gold has surged back above $900 an ounce.
00:34:25.000That's the real inflation being mirrored there.
00:34:27.000I wanted to talk about what a crash will look like, and if we are going to have a crash, when he thinks that will unfold, or if it will just be this long, slow slide into night.
00:34:35.000Then Ron Paul's called for investigation of the Fed, so is Cramer now.
00:34:39.000Jim Cramer, of all people, on MSNBC, CNBC's on both.
00:34:51.000I was in a store line yesterday, bringing some food home to the family, and I heard people talking about how the Federal Reserve was behind this, and they didn't even know who I was.
00:34:58.000It wasn't like they were listeners to this show.
00:35:39.000Tonight, I think I found a fellow traveler, Congressman Ron Paul, who's running for president as a Republican and has been highly critical of the Federal Reserve.
00:35:49.000I'm inviting all the candidates to swing through Mad Money and talk about your money.
00:35:53.000Congressman Paul's position is so important on the Fed, and his method of spreading his message for his campaign is so different from everyone else's, that we're thrilled to have him on the show tonight.
00:36:11.000Look, one of the things that's changed, and you're changing it, caucuses and kissing babies, they don't cut it anymore on the campaign trail.
00:36:33.000And we know even the younger people, younger people are into it.
00:36:37.000Why is it that your message, my message, somewhat critical, absolutely critical to the Fed, is just reaching home to so many young people and actually everyone throughout the country.
00:36:50.000When I go to the college campuses, I get the loudest applause when I criticize the Fed and indicate that I don't even like the Fed and think we should talk about getting rid of it.
00:36:58.000So it is an important issue and I think this is the first time in over a hundred years that it's become an issue in a presidential campaign.
00:37:06.000So I'm really excited about it because the monetary issue is something that has driven me to get involved in politics for a long time.
00:37:13.000Now you have been, I think, spot on in saying that the Federal Reserve created the stock bubble with low margin rates and it created the housing bubble with low mortgage rates.
00:37:22.000Yet I never hear about anyone talking about investigating the Fed in Congress.
00:37:48.000When we come in at the 8 after the next hour, I want to play the rest of it.
00:37:51.000I want to get to Bob Chapman now, who will be with us until then, maybe even a little bit longer.
00:37:56.000He got second place yesterday in Louisiana in the caucus.
00:38:01.000He got second place in the Nevada primary.
00:38:04.000This is huge news, but Giuliani still gets three, four times the coverage Ron Paul does.
00:38:10.000They are really getting desperate right now, but thank God Kramer did have him on.
00:38:18.000Bob Chapman, I mean, two, three years ago, I would have never imagined we'd hear open discussions of the private Federal Reserve stealing gold, being more secret than the CIA, running the country.
00:38:28.000Now, the top five, six videos on Google 100.
00:38:34.000Are the Money Masters and other videos exposing the Federal Reserve, the Von Mise Institute, my video, America Freedom to Fascism, I mean all the top videos now.
00:40:50.000And of course, they suppressed gold because they knew that they were going to drop rates, and they knew how much they were going to drop them, and they knew that would make gold go up, so they hit gold.
00:41:00.000And they do that by either Arranging for selling from, perhaps, and I say perhaps because we don't know whether America's got any gold or not, it hasn't been audited since 1954.
00:41:12.000Or they've got another central bank to sell gold into the market, or bought puts, or shorted, or whatever they did.
00:41:36.000The world is catching on, finally, to what they're doing.
00:41:39.000Well, Bob, also on the face of it here, I mean, when you've got the private Federal Reserve with all these governors and presidents and chairmen who openly are in revolving doors with the biggest private banks, you know, the IMF and World Bank, this is the ultimate insider trading for select interests.
00:42:17.000Well they gave him the quote IMF 100 point plan and they openly stated we're here to destroy third world countries we don't want to do it to the first world and we want to totally implode them so we can buy everything up with the credit and liquidity we issue and he just said you know what I'm a globalist but I'm not going to be part of this.
00:42:39.000You're absolutely right and the outcome is that he's letting information out that people need to know And I think he's doing a fine job and I'm glad his honest conscience took command over the kind of greed that we fell with Alan Greenspan.
00:42:57.000Well last January 24th on this show, in fact I looked it up, this is the day, he was here last year with us when he was in Texas.
00:43:06.000And he said that within two years, they hadn't reversed their policies, which he said they were doing on purpose, that it was a majority chance that we would go into a global depression, and now we're a year into that, and it looks like they're only going to accelerate the policies that are going to bring us to that.
00:43:45.000And plus, they don't want it discovered, what they've been doing, because people are just going to go off the deep end when they find out That they've been in rigging the markets?
00:43:57.000They're also busy for three years positioning their wealth into transportation, into military, into communication, into staples, into commodities that they know aren't going to go down when all the paper corporate paper goes down the toilet.
00:44:17.000In fact, I saw the accumulation in commodities begin In the early 1990s, and around 1995, six and seven, Jimmy Rogers started to talk about it.
00:44:31.000And Jimmy has a lot more visibility than I do.
00:44:35.000He used to be George Soros' partner, for those of you who don't know.
00:44:39.000And Jimmy recommended commodities in 1999, and he's done handsomely with it.
00:44:45.000But the ones who are accumulating the commodities in '92, '3, '4, '5 and onward were the royal families of Europe, particularly the British royal family.
00:44:57.000Now, expanding into a discussion of an investigation of the Fed, Ron Paul's calling for it, Kramer's calling for it.
00:45:07.000This signals to me, Ron Paul, of course, is a loose cannon to the establishment, but Kramer is on somewhat of a leash.
00:45:14.000For him to be attacking and now others to be attacking in some of the columns shows a shift in the power structure, at least at some strata.
00:45:21.000Your take on where that battle is coming from and how deep it goes?
00:45:28.000Well, it is the main topic of discussion at the Davos World Economic Forum as well.
00:45:38.000The only place that I think that this idea and the promulgation of this idea is coming from is financial interests in Europe.
00:45:50.000They are very disturbed that AAA paper was sold to them when in fact it was bogus AAA paper and it was laid off on them, not sold to them.
00:46:02.000And they're going to take hundreds of billions of dollars in losses, and they're not very happy about it.
00:46:07.000So I think there's a chasm that has been happening over the past two and a half to three years between Illuminists in Europe and the United States.
00:46:19.000Part of that dissatisfaction is with the production of warfare and occupation.
00:46:27.000Well Bob, on Monday... They really got bagged on this and they're mad.
00:46:32.000Well Bob, I want to hear what you think they're going to do, but on Monday, when our markets were closed for Martin Luther King Day, as you know, a $60 billion dollar, a $64 billion dollar, or 40-something billion pound loss in England, and I'm looking at different numbers, $250 bill, $300 bill lost in these markets to this junk just in the last four days.
00:47:30.000So, I mean, why then is our Fed and the other central banks dumping over 70, I mean 700 billion over the markets and you're saying, I mean, what's that going to do?
00:47:41.000Well, first of all, the figure is probably close to about 1.2 trillion that the European Central Bank, the Bank of England and the Fed Reserve have poured in to the banking communities And they're rolling that money.
00:47:56.000Yes, the interest is being paid, but they're rolling it.
00:47:59.000And that's what's keeping these institutions in business.
00:48:34.000You know, it's just like Kramer said, it's more secret than the CIA.
00:48:37.000Well, I used to work in counterintelligence, and he's probably right.
00:48:42.000But the final numbers, we're looking at probably within the ownership structure in America of homes, I think we're going to come in around $1 to $1.2 trillion in losses.
00:48:56.000And then the CDO losses themselves will be over another trillion.
00:49:00.000So we're looking at probably $2.5 trillion in losses, which have been spread worldwide.
00:49:06.000Well, Bob, that's my next question, because, you know, this paper sold, these bundled mortgages, the bundled credit cards, all of that is then leveraged and loaned out in the fractional reserve system over and over again.
00:49:23.000Big banks set up subsidiaries to get around the ten times rule.
00:49:27.000We get into the hundreds of trillions and so these waves just go into other sectors.
00:49:35.000I mean, what's the time frame until this completely unravels?
00:49:40.000Hard to say, but it's at least two to three years.
00:49:44.000And the reason why is ABS really hasn't been attacked yet.
00:49:49.000Those are the loans that were securitized that are loans for vehicles, motorcycles.
00:49:57.000Incidentally, we shorted Harley Davidson way up there, and people are making a pile of money on it.
00:50:03.000And pools, and mobile homes, and all those kinds of loans There normally are relatively good loans, but we're not in a relatively good economic time and it's going to get worse.
00:50:51.000See, if we had a booming economy, we probably couldn't grow our way out of this.
00:50:55.000But instead, we've got a contracting one.
00:50:57.000We'll get Bob's take on the other side.
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00:54:27.000Bob's going to be with us for a little bit of the next hour, then I'm going to get into your calls, a ton of other global and financial news, as well as political news.
00:54:38.000Bob, in layman's terms, who stands to gain from this?
00:54:46.000And how do you see this unfolding, either on the good side or the bad side?
00:54:54.000Well, a capitalization is everything was put into motion with the situation in the Middle East geopolitically for oil to continue to keep the dollar being traded as the denomination for oil and one of the excuses that the US used to go into Iraq was that
00:55:22.000Iraq was trading oil and Euros and other currencies.
00:55:26.000But there's that aspect of it, and that went completely awry.
00:55:32.000It's a disaster for the planners, the Illuminati.
00:55:36.000At the same time, in early 2002, they passed the point of no return.
00:55:41.000They had set a time plan whereby they would be able to start moving In 2009, 10, and 11 into a recession depression in the United States.
00:56:00.000And what happened was after they set everything in motion everything went upside down for them and they tried to stop this economic and financial motion into recession and depression and were unable to do so.
00:56:18.000And then came the exposure of the A misrated CDO problem and the absence of a market for them and so all of these things came to a confluence and the powers behind a government didn't want that to happen because they weren't ready for it.
00:56:38.000Now they're scrambling to try to keep the system afloat and the system unfortunately in Europe is almost as bad as it is here.
00:56:49.000And so, Europe has been very badly affected, which wasn't expected, but nobody expected the CDO securitization to fall to pieces, which is essentially what's happened.
00:56:59.000And Bob, get into that final type of security that you said was unraveling.
00:57:07.000We were going into break, and you were going to bring up another type of investment that was also going to unravel.
00:57:12.000Oh, that was the ABS, the anti-theft securities, which we talked about before.
00:57:17.000And then we talked about the pick and pay, which is a different type of adjustable rate mortgage where you have choices as to what kind of payment you're going to make.
00:57:33.000Well, starting now actually, but in a big way in about a year and a half to two years, those pick and pays are going to start coming due.
00:57:42.000And the price of houses have gone down and all they've been doing is paying interest and probably nothing on the back of the loan and a home they bought for a million dollars might be worth $850,000 and they're going to have to write a new loan so that means they're going to have to come up with money to be able to make a new loan and they can't do that and there's a tremendous amount of those loans out.
00:58:06.000In my next publication I have like Downey Savings and Loan and some of the others and And how they're going to get stuck with these things.
00:58:14.000So, this thing is going to go on a long way in time.
00:58:19.000And sure, something could happen in the meantime that could, like a Continental Bank disaster, and everything could go down the chute.
00:58:28.000But in the absence of that, and we can't plan for that.
00:58:32.000Stay there Bob, we'll be back in 70 seconds.
00:58:34.000I want to ask you about rabbits they might be able to pull out of hats.
00:59:33.000It's not just education in public schools or college, it's the re-education in the corporate world, it's the whole structure of their propaganda.
00:59:41.000Bob Chapman, I agree with your analysis, and again, even the Financial Times of London, which I found to be the real paper of record, admits a lot of this, just puts their spin on it, that the elite are about four or five years behind.
00:59:53.000They wanted to have their police state firmly in place.
00:59:58.000They wanted to have the Middle East tied down so they could force an evaluation of the dollar, but still force the world to accept it as the world reserve currency.
01:00:22.000If I look at this, the only thing that looks like might save them, but then that will even backfire bigger, but their own Republican memos say it, Democratic strategists, barring finding bin Laden or another big terror attack, they're not going to be able to rally people around to accept politically what's going they're not going to be able to rally people around to accept I see a massive terror attack in the next few months, next year.
01:00:45.000If they're unable to blame this on somebody or stave it off or slow it down to a crawl, what do you see happening?
01:00:51.000Well, Well, I think your synopsis on those things are true.
01:00:57.000But the solution, the solution is the election of Ron Paul and the defeat of all the incumbents in Congress.
01:01:06.000If we were able to accomplish that, Ron Paul could stand up there and say, look, I'm an honest guy.
01:01:12.000And I got lots of experience in this, and this is what's wrong, and this is what we've got to do.
01:01:16.000And whether you like it or not, this is what's going to happen.
01:01:42.000Well, it's rare that they're not lying.
01:01:45.000Now, am I right in saying, in your educated opinion, Bob Chapman, that the longer this goes with them staying the course, the worse the collapse is going to be?
01:01:55.000Absolutely, because what's going to happen, they're going to go to Weimarism.
01:02:00.000And I write about it for the next issue I was writing about this morning.
01:02:03.000And the Weimar Republic was the result of the defeat of Germany in the First World War.
01:02:11.000And the reparations, which means the Germans had to pay the other countries in Europe because they caused damage to them, those reparations were so insane that Germany couldn't pay them, and they just kept on printing money.
01:02:25.000And in that process, in this Weimar government, they had this tremendous inflation.
01:02:32.000And we're going to have the same thing, and maybe even worse, if these people in the Fed are given another two or three years To continue pumping out money and credit to keep this system going.
01:02:45.000Now, studying inflationary spikes and bubbles in history, can you in a nutshell explain that it gets worse and worse exponentially right at the end, and then on a scale of 1 to 100, the real balloon starting at about 70, where are we on that gauge?
01:03:11.000And you know, this is what brought Mussolini and Hitler to power.
01:03:17.000There was a very interesting book written on the subject called Hitler at Versailles by General Leon de Graal, who was there as a journalist and an attorney, and who laid it all out as to how it happened and why it happened.
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01:07:31.000He's got a book footnoted with a Harvard professor about the family being a disease.
01:07:38.000We're trying to locate the other textbook that says similar things.
01:07:41.000Then when his son was going to Sam Houston University for law enforcement, basically teaching him that they're part of a global system, And we got Charlotte Iserby joining us in the next hour to go over all of that because some guy on YouTube, and this is the type of attacks we get, just says we're making all this up.
01:07:59.000We've got scores of emails, posts coming in, people finding just all sorts of things where they call the family bad and say they want to get rid of it and call it a disease.
01:08:39.000We know what we're talking about on the economy, on the social workers, on how they took over education, on who the globalists are.
01:08:45.000They have their own textbooks, their own documents.
01:08:47.000What is it like for you when you talk to people who just won't even check into what we're saying and just call us conspiracy theorists?
01:08:54.000Well, I get the same thing that you do.
01:08:56.000So a long time ago, I said that to myself, that if I can rescue one out of a hundred, I'm doing a good job.
01:09:03.000Because it's so alien, and people have been so brainwashed, and that is a true word for them, they've been propagandized, and they don't know, because they just don't understand, because they've had no exposure to the things that you and I, and others like us, have seeked out over the period of time.
01:09:21.000And, you know, it's a long process, and what's going to jerk them into reality, A lot of people are starting to listen, though.
01:09:30.000I mean, ten years ago, 80% of people disagreed with us.
01:09:32.000Five years ago, half the public agreed.
01:09:33.000say, look, this is exactly how it happened, and this is what the solution is.
01:09:37.000It's painful, but we have to do that, but we're not going to make those same mistakes again.
01:09:41.000A lot of people are starting to listen, though.
01:09:45.000I mean, 10 years ago, 80% of people disagreed with us.
01:09:48.000Five years ago, half the public agreed.
01:09:49.000Now it's a minority that totally disagrees with us, and the others are starting to at least ask questions.
01:09:55.000I see a tough road ahead for the New World Order architects, for the engineers, and I think that's why they're racing to try to put this whole surveillance, suppression, oppression apparatus in place.
01:10:09.000Well, I think you're certainly right about that, and that's why, and you've known this for a long time, I'm not in the United States.
01:10:18.000But I think the institutions within the structure, which you brought up before, and I showed the dichotomous nature, Between the European Illuminati and the U.S.
01:10:28.000This morning, Forbes came out with an article that says U.S.
01:10:31.000dollar policy amounts to Zimbabwe economics.
01:10:36.000Now, would you have thought you'd see something like that just two or three years ago?
01:11:01.000Yeah, I really think, as much as I want to like Cramer, he's an insider, and I've seen him do a lot of bad stuff in the past, I think he sees the writing on the wall as one of the first big rats to jump ship.
01:11:16.000No, he's... I mean, you're a top market guy yourself, very successful, biggest newsletter ever, and, you know, one of the biggest stockbrokers out there, and one of the biggest gold brokers out there.
01:11:26.000What do you... what's your assessment of Jim Cramer?
01:11:30.000Well, I think, first of all, he's been very successful.
01:11:36.000And I think he's been through the battle on Wall Street like I have.
01:11:43.000His main The point in life was to make a lot of money, which I'm sure he has.
01:11:50.000And now I think he's looking over the field and he's seeing things that he didn't see before.
01:11:57.000And he's coming to the realization that, gee, I've been working in this thing called Wall Street, which really is just a slime pit.
01:12:05.000And, you know, let's find out why it's that way.
01:12:11.000We were talking about Hitler coming to power out of what developed in Versailles at the close of World War II there at that little railway station.
01:12:22.000And to talk about the wicked foresight of Lord Milner, I was just rereading last night over official congressional reports about the funding of the Bolsheviks out of New York and London, and how Lord Milner, for the Queen of England, gave even more than Warburg did in gold to send 250 people out of Brooklyn on that train full of gold and machine guns in to take over Petrograd first.
01:12:46.000Well, they were, and of course then Max Warburg, his brother, was running the finances in Germany.
01:12:51.000Again, we're supposedly fighting with Germany, but they're at the end of World War II, World War I, already backstabbing the Czars, the first cousins of the Saxe-Coburg Gothas.
01:13:05.000They engineer these mass Collapses to then pick up the pieces and I see them doing that now in a way almost blaming the Federal Reserve when they're just a appendage of the same creature.
01:13:20.000And what you have to figure out is what direction they're going to go in.
01:13:24.000And now that we're getting close to or we are figuring out what they're doing, which we weren't able to do before, let's say over 50 years ago, And we've got the internet, and now we're able to inform all of these people out there throughout the world, mind you, of what's going on because of the knowledge like you just talked about, the research that you do and I do and others like us.
01:13:46.000It's opening people's eyes, and it's so, so important.
01:13:55.000That is hard to say, but we can guess.
01:13:58.000Well, the cold-blooded calculation, this is published, this is mainstream, of Lord Milner in the 20s, saying Germany's going to implode, then we're going to put a strong man in, who we will then set up, he won't even really work for us, we'll just finance him, but psychologically we'll assess a nutcase, to then destroy everything, then we'll come in and pick up the pieces, but first we've already brought down Russia.
01:15:13.000This whole thing is going to be exposed and everybody will understand it, who wants to understand it, and their game will be over.
01:15:22.000I agree with you, but in that violent death spasm, there's no end.
01:15:28.000I mean, they'll shut off nukes and say Al Qaeda did it, just to pose as the saviors and rally support and keep people in their orbit.
01:15:35.000I think you're right, and I think that hopefully we'll survive and be able to bring the message so they won't come out the other end whole, even if they survive.
01:15:47.000There'll be people there who will be able to say, we know that you did this.
01:15:50.000How many people, you were in counterintelligence, and a lot of other folks who fight the New World Order, who were patriots for this country, I mean, the thinkers left in government, a lot of them I've talked to, they know exactly what's going on, they're just as angry as we are, but they're within a system where they can't do much.
01:16:06.000Well, that's absolutely the truth, and if you're in corporate America, or on Wall Street, you're in the same bag, because Let's say you're an analyst or an economist, and you think that the stock market's going to go down.
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01:16:35.000And that's why economists and analysts are wrong two-thirds of the time, because they can't tell the truth.
01:16:41.000Well, O'Neill back in 2002 said that, and they said, get out of here.
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01:23:06.000Oh, by the way, Ted and the network, he's the guy that founded this network, finances through thick and thin, off his metal sales, and he's giving you offers, deals, where I don't know, I've asked him before, like $4 or $5 a coin.
01:23:24.000These are just introductory offers at the price of gold a few weeks ago.
01:24:14.000I mean, just take a look at what happened to Norfed when they had the silver certificates and the silver was stored up there in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho.
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01:27:16.000Ted, is it okay to say on air what you put $8,000 in this or something?
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01:32:56.000I've been thinking a lot about the monetary system and it's come to my mind that it's pretty much an exploitable framework and that if we return to that framework Don't you think it will just lead us down the same path that we're on now?
01:33:14.000Well yeah, I mean if we had total liberty again, tyranny would start right back over again.
01:33:18.000It's an eternal fight against good and evil.
01:33:21.000But to say things are corrupt and so it'll be exploitable regardless, we better just give up.
01:33:47.000Actually, I think, you know, I see money as an illusion pretty much.
01:33:54.000Well, it is, but you have to have some type of agreed upon exchange.
01:33:57.000If you've got a pure barter, and barter is certainly a good thing on certain levels, it then stagnates commerce.
01:34:02.000Yeah, but I think the assembly line and mass production have sort of skewed the need for exacting trade.
01:34:12.000Well, certainly it's decimated communities and the market, ground market, the classic market interaction.
01:34:19.000It's dehumanized us to a certain extent.
01:34:21.000We have to then value again the farmer's market and the more classical modes of homo sapien, sapien interaction.
01:34:28.000Well, no, my idea would be to Have the people that have the assembly lines just go ahead and meet demand with no money involved at all.
01:34:39.000Yeah, but you can't do that because there's going to be people who are over the assembly lines and then they claim that there's no demand.
01:34:44.000Human demand is driven by necessity and by desire and by class structures and signage and totems of dominance in a hierarchical mammalian framework.
01:35:23.000Sir, I mean, you're... We haven't reached the singularity yet.
01:35:27.000of industry or technology or thought, and we probably never will reach some ultimate singularity, only God, you know, a philosopher would say has that.
01:35:40.000To say that you're going to get the raw materials, to say that you're going to be able to have the space to build it without ownership, you talk about not having money, not having ownership, the space to even build it, the space to be able to trade, to get the pieces you need because you build it because you want to build it.
01:35:57.000I mean, that's not... I mean, basic matter and the basic mathematical equations of matter and energy negates what you're saying.
01:36:08.000I don't... No, just... Ownership would remain, but money would be eliminated.
01:36:15.000Okay, money would be eliminated and then we would own things and then we would trade mechanisms we've designed?
01:36:42.000Well, uh, you know, it has to come from somewhere.
01:36:45.000Look, look, look, sir, I, I, I, look, I see where you're going with this, and it's not in, it's not based in reality, and I'm not trying to be mean to you.
01:36:54.000People all the time call me up, they email me, they write me, and they say, why doesn't Alex Jones give his videos for free?
01:37:02.000And up until the YouTube age, with no production, uh, no nothing, just an internet connection for ten bucks a month or whatever you're paying, twenty bucks, fifty bucks, depending on the connection, right?
01:37:13.000You can sit there and do videos for free with no real production quality.
01:37:18.000You're still giving your time and energy.
01:37:19.000If you wanted to do it professionally, you'd probably need some money to live and buy food and heat your home, cool your home, pay for transportation, medical care.
01:37:27.000But me, expensive $5,000, $10,000 cameras, $7,000 computers, power, paying a couple of employees, having enough money to once or twice a year go to the Texas beach and take off a few days and stay in a mid-grade hotel room.
01:37:52.000I mean, they say not only is it not enough that you make copies of your films, they make copies for free, but there are a lot of them are on Google for free.
01:38:00.000We want you to physically mail us package tapes you paid to produce, you put your time and energy into produce, and then you want me to mail them to you for free.
01:38:11.000There would have had to be capital and assets at the beginning of that that came from somewhere to give it to you, and as soon as that capital was exhausted, I could no longer have the money to mail it to you, or to mass produce it, or to pay someone to stick it in the package, or to pay for the package itself.
01:38:29.000Nevertheless, people email me, they write me, and they say, we want it all for free.
01:38:37.000And if I was worth billions of dollars, believe me, I would do it for free.
01:38:40.000The big tax-free foundations that got their wealth through theft, that have the government pay them corporate welfare, they do, quote, do things for free, but that is to institute a climate that on the downside, or upside, however you see it, then telegraphs and conduits wealth into their hands.
01:38:57.000So we'll put in a few cents of foundation monies, which is billions, for the return of trillions.
01:39:04.000So, that's why communism and socialism doesn't work.
01:40:00.000You're not happy unless you're struggling.
01:40:01.000You're not happy unless you're building.
01:40:04.000Now, some of the greatest contributions in history, I would add, sir, were from people that just wanted to build it and give it to society.
01:41:22.000And then they got mad at him for over-pumping oil and driving down prices in 1990 in an attempt to pay back $30-plus billion to BCCI Bank and others.
01:41:33.000But, I mean, he even says in this speech, the war is actually to try to prop up our dollar.
01:41:42.000Well, that's a small part of it, and I don't completely agree with that.
01:41:44.000That's one tiny slice of the onion, one layer.
01:41:52.000But you still think this is a pre-planned land grab like it was in the Great Depression?
01:42:01.000There are different strata to this elite, but the dominant group precipitated the beginning of the down cycle or the implosion of the weakest link, the subprime housing market boom.
01:42:18.000We've been saying that for three years.
01:42:19.000They precipitated that To then consolidate smaller institutions of lending and to further flesh that out.
01:43:06.000And the Financial Times of London and others have reported that the big central banks and the families that own them stand to gain from this.
01:43:14.000I mean, do you know what dollar devaluation has done for international institutions to come in and buy up infrastructure?
01:43:20.000Have you read the IMF World Bank leaked documents of 2002?
01:44:44.000But you have to understand, and I appreciate your call, the IMF and the World Bank and others, and UN official documents going back 12 years ago, stated they had to give us a false choice of a left-right global hegemon.
01:44:56.000They need a bipolar dichotomy or a dialectic to give you false choices.
01:45:01.000So they own stock in, have control in the eastern system, And Europe is kind of the tip of the pyramid, playing the two false bipolars of East and West off against each other, while the European oligarchy system has controlling positions in both of the two false bipolar systems.
01:45:27.000This is stated in their economic theorem.
01:45:30.000It's like earlier I talked about how you had Max Warburg overrunning the German banking system, During World War I, into the 20s, and then you had his brother, the other Warburg, over here, running the Federal Reserve, and then financing the Bolsheviks, during and at the end of World War I, to go attack the Soviets, excuse me, the Czarists, to bring in the Communists, the Bolsheviks.
01:45:55.000At the very same time, they were the U.S.
01:45:57.000and Britain and France's allies against Germany.
01:46:41.000She's got quotes coming up to go over this because, uh, a ne'er-do-well, uh, on, uh, YouTube, a little trendy know-it-all, the guy says he's 33 and he looks like a little girl.
01:46:51.000I mean, just totally, and I'm not trying to say people that don't look old when they're 33 are weak, but I mean, he just looks like a child.
01:46:58.000up there with his little beard trying to look like a big man, you know, with his costume, festooning his cheeks, saying, I believe in space aliens and Bush is space aliens, and totally made up.
01:47:12.000And then he goes into saying, I never back up with any quotes or books or documents.
01:48:19.000And in the book he quotes a meeting, and this has to do with UNESCO, the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization, which is trying to dumb down the students of the United States of America.
01:48:32.000And it's talking about a meeting that was held in Denver in 1973 called the Childhood International Education Seminar.
01:48:42.000And at that seminar in 1973, a Chester M. Pierce, M.D., who was a professor of education and psychiatry at Harvard University, told educators at the meeting, quote, now here it is, ladies and gentlemen, this is a quote, Chester M. Pierce, M.D.
01:48:59.000Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity.
01:49:21.000It's up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well by creating the international child of the future.
01:49:31.000Now, everybody actually has that from federal documents, and we have that one, Bob.
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01:52:54.000Yeah, this guy on YouTube that was attacking me, He shows us who he really is because first he says I believe that space aliens run things and George Bush is a space alien.
01:53:47.000He thinks all this, this is not normal, but that shows how they've grown up in it, and they're the good, you can tell on this little power trip, they're the social workers.
01:53:57.000They're going to, you go get a degree, and you get to run everybody's life, and have your way with people.
01:54:02.000I've been there when the social workers are taking newborn babies from poor families with no criminal record, just because they're too ignorant, and poor, and on welfare, because the baby's blonde-haired, blue-eyed, and they can get 300 grand for it.
01:54:12.000I've been there, and I've cried my guts out.
01:54:15.000I've opened the door and seen the cops choking a woman into signing the baby over.
01:54:31.000I think what the book my son had as part of his requirements of learning how to be a cop down at Sam Houston.
01:54:38.000This book was teaching the cop, was dumbing down the cops, Alex.
01:54:41.000What they were doing is they were teaching future cops of America that our criminal justice system needs to be gotten rid of and we need to look at other countries like China and what not to figure out how to do things.
01:54:54.000This book was to dumb down the cops and attack the American jury system.
01:55:05.000Yeah, I basically, this is a compendium of writings of these pseudo-intellectuals in the field of criminal justice and under a topic called criticism of the Anglo-American trial jury.
01:55:18.000They quote a fellow by the name of, an extreme critic of it, called Jerome Frank, who labeled the jury as the worst possible enemy of the ideal of supremacy of law.
01:55:28.000And so there is ample evidence that respected legal analysts and researchers have grave doubts about the Anglo-American trial jury.
01:55:35.000And one of the things that they really criticize them on is this.
01:55:40.000Jurors deliberately do not apply the law as instructed and that they instead choose to ignore the existing law in order to reach a desired decision in the case.
01:55:49.000In other words, they are attacking jury nullification, which of course is one of the foundations of our country.
01:55:56.000So because of jury nullification and other things, they want to get rid of it.
01:55:59.000And they say, you know, you can't You can't responsibly get rid of the jury unless, of course, you study other methods of trial which could achieve the same basic results.
01:56:07.000And then this book goes into a whole bunch of, they study the jurisprudent systems of communist China and places like that as alternatives to what we have today.
01:56:17.000And I remember you brought photos on the show of big cases when you go in the big law enforcement center, and it's all Chinese badges and how good it is.
01:56:24.000What that was was in the lobby of the George Beto Criminal Justice Building at Sam Houston State University, which is, of course, a premier law enforcement university in the United States.
01:57:10.000But the medals he was talking about, and he took photographs of, that I had seen, were Communist Chinese police medals and Soviet Union police medals on display in the lobby of the... And it says, this is good.
01:58:18.000At the top of it, it says if you find... When you find Social Work 101 Family as a Disease System posted here, this has only been going about an hour and a half, and I've read over a bunch of quotes and things that I hadn't seen that back up what we're saying, but I did find one that I do remember reading, Because listeners mail me these books, and there are a lot of professors and scholars and researchers that listen to the show, and it says, Sociology, A Brief Introduction.
01:58:48.000And by the way, just during the break, I googled this and found the opening introduction online, because Amazon does that, and didn't need to find it, because I'm not just going to read this unless I can go prove it myself.
01:58:57.000But this is, and I've seen this before, now this is on page 285, discusses the approach, the family of conflict theorists.
01:59:08.000Conflict theorists also view the family as an economic unit that contributes to social injustice.
01:59:15.000The family is the basis for transferring power, property, and privilege from one generation to the next.
01:59:21.000Conflict theorists argue that the family helps to maintain inequity.
02:00:10.000Bob, in the few minutes we've got left, you want to read that specific Harvard psychologist statement again?
02:00:18.000It came from, really, it's all, you know, if somebody wants to really know what the hell it's all about, it's UNESCO, and they had a 1947 book called Towards World Understanding.
02:00:28.000You know, and in that book, on page 58, they say, quote, as we have pointed out, it is frequently the family that infects the child with extreme nationalism.
02:00:37.000The school should therefore use the means described earlier to combat family attitude.
02:00:42.000That's all coming from, you know, UNESCO, UN stuff.
02:00:45.000Now see how it says they're mentally ill, they're infected?
02:00:47.000That's the same as saying disease, but I'm telling you there's one where they call the family.
02:00:52.000In fact, read the whole quote from start to finish.
02:00:54.000Okay, this is the quote from Chester M. Pierce, 1973.
02:00:58.000A professor of education at Harvard in 1973 at a Denver education conference, quote, Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity.
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02:06:00.000Alright, the last hour we gave footnoted quotes about how the family is a sickness, the children are mentally ill, they have a disease, basically.
02:06:09.000I have now tracked down who this particular Calhoun sociologist was, talking about the family being a disease.
02:06:28.000He implies, I'm not going to play the whole piece, he implies that he is going to school, he hasn't read any of the books when he's in school, so he's obviously taking that career path.
02:06:38.000He says that I never footnote or never give where something comes from, I do over and over again.
02:06:43.000Again, I'll say, four years ago MSNBC, Mexican Attorney General takes microchip, makes employees take it.
02:06:51.000And then years later I'll say the Mexican Attorney General made his employees take it.
02:06:54.000You can just say, oh that's a lie, he didn't give us a place to find it.
02:07:27.000But it's the classic attack saying we don't tell the truth or we're full of it.
02:07:32.000So I thought I'd play a few minutes of this and then refute it with Charlotte Isnerby, head of policy, Department of Education under Ronald Reagan.
02:07:39.000Herself, quite esteemed degrees and background in civil service internationally.
02:07:45.000And then, of course, her father, Skull and Bones Bohemian Grove as well.
02:07:49.000So, you know, pretty high-powered family.
02:07:52.000From inside the intelligentsia, blowing the whistle from the inside out, we'll be talking to this dear, wonderful lady who wrote the bombshell definitive work, Deliberate Dumbing Down, in just one moment.
02:08:01.000But first, here is the creature on YouTube, standard attack pattern, just putting out pure bull.
02:08:08.000This is Hisinus, and I'm doing a video response to the Alex Jones Family and Socialism thing.
02:08:16.000First off, I want to say that Alex Jones is nuts.
02:08:20.000This is the same guy who does Prison Planet, and we all know it for gems like Aliens are Invading, you know, Bush is an alien, just weird, off-the-wall crap like that.
02:08:34.000This video is a perfect example of what this guy is all about.
02:08:38.000Absolutely perfect, and I've spelled it out for you.
02:08:41.000First of all, why are police and social workers in a children's classroom bad?
02:08:46.000I don't think they mean, like, right in the classroom, but working with teachers, I don't know why that would be a bad thing.
02:08:54.000I mean, you know, schools are in and of themselves Okay, hit pause.
02:09:01.000So he impeaches me with saying I believe Bush is an alien and aliens are invading.
02:11:27.000It's acknowledged that modern education, kindergarten, the structure of rote, the five to six class periods, the specialization, the regurgitation and repeating, that's the Prussian model.
02:11:38.000The prison system is based predominantly on the Panopticon French model that rose in the last 250 years.
02:11:44.000I mean, I actually read the textbooks on this.
02:11:47.000You didn't, little boy, or you didn't remember it.
02:12:56.000My book's been out for Since 1999, and I believe I've had, to be perfectly honest, two calls in when I've done interviews, and I've been doing them since then, radio.
02:13:09.000Two calls where I was absolutely attacked, and it was by a couple of educators, you know, principals and superintendents.
02:13:24.000Everybody knows people have been dumbed down and this has been the process.
02:13:28.000Yeah, but all the other calls, I want to make it very clear that you are correct on whatever you've been saying there.
02:13:35.000I've had a lot of calls from educators, public school educators, superintendents, sometimes even commissioners of education, and they're all totally supportive.
02:14:04.000You can just... I mean, I always think of it, if I only have, you know, one second or thirty seconds, the most important quote, because it comes from It's Benjamin Bloom, Professor Bloom's behavioral psychologist, who really is behind the whole dog training method that is necessary for workforce training.
02:14:24.000He died a few years ago, but he admits it.
02:14:26.000He says, the purpose of education in the schools is to change the thoughts, feelings, and actions of students.
02:14:35.000From what the parent is trying to instill?
02:14:38.000From what the church is trying to instill?
02:14:40.000That's the definition right there, the purpose.
02:14:43.000Then he goes on to say, a large part of what we call good teaching is the teacher's ability to attain effective objectives through, that means attitudes, values, and beliefs change, through challenging the student's fixed beliefs And getting them to discuss issues.
02:15:06.000And then you have the 1945 Treaty, UNESCO.
02:15:11.000Kindergarten or infant school can correct many of the errors of home training and prepare for membership in the world society.
02:15:19.000It is in the family that children are infected with nationalism.
02:15:23.000And you have Dr. Chester Pierce in the 70s, Harvard.
02:15:27.000Every child in America who enters school at the age of five is mentally ill, because he comes to school with an allegiance toward our elected officials, toward our founding fathers, toward our institutions, toward the preservation of this form of government that we have.
02:15:42.000Patriotism, nationalism and sovereignty, all that proves that children are sick, because a truly well individual is one who is rejected, All of those things and it's truly the international child of the future.
02:15:55.000Then you have major change agent, I consider him number one in the world, John Goodlatte, schooling for a global age.
02:16:03.000Parents and the general public must be reached also.
02:16:07.000Otherwise children and youth enrolled in globally oriented programs may find themselves in conflict with values assumed in the home.
02:16:15.000And then the education institution frequently, not often enough I might say, comes under scrutiny and must pull back.
02:16:24.000And then he says, that was in 1981, actually I leaked that document that was in there.
02:16:31.0001968, he says, an article in Learning and Teaching in the NEA Journal, His top educator folks, behavioral psychologists, behaviorists, right?
02:16:40.000He says, quote, the most controversial issues of the 21st century will pertain to the ends and means of modifying human behavior and who shall determine them.
02:16:51.000The first educational question will not be what knowledge is of the most worth.
02:16:58.000But what kind of human beings do we want to produce?
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02:21:57.000Charlotte, out of the gates in a nutshell.
02:22:00.000Tell folks just a little bit about yourself who don't know who you are, what you discovered inside this, and then just continue with the quotes by the heads of academia, the heads of the, quote, education science in the last hundred years for social workers and people being trained to be social workers who, you know, go up on YouTube and say, I'm making all this up.
02:22:21.000Oh, no, you're not making it up at all.
02:22:34.000They're evil people who would do this to our children.
02:22:37.000But they have admitted, they truly have admitted what they're doing and so much of that is in my book and it's also, a great deal of it is on another website I have, too.
02:23:14.000Now, the secondary website is marvelous.
02:23:17.000It's called americandeception.com, and those are original primary research scanned in documents and books, very, very rare books and documents.
02:23:29.000The most important item on that, if you call it an item, but it is the Reese Committee hearings.
02:23:37.000Norman Dodd was the research director for those committee hearings in 1953 on the tax-exempt foundations.
02:23:46.000And I bought Uh, the 3,000 pages of the hearings.
02:23:50.000It was the only copy left in the country.
02:23:52.000The foundations had bought up all the copies after the hearings were abruptly terminated for obvious reasons.
02:24:00.000I'm sure your listeners understand why.
02:24:02.000Because it's the history of the treason.
02:24:07.000It was against America by the Tax Exempt Foundations.
02:24:14.000There are 90,000 pages of marvelous research there, education documents, everything.
02:24:19.000But the major reason for that website was when I purchased the congressional, the testimony, during the Reese Cox Committee hearings of the investigation of the Tax Exempt Foundations.
02:24:45.000But the Reese Committee hearings are free.
02:24:48.000And if you had any idea what I paid for them, I'm sure you would go rushing in there to grab it immediately for fear something would happen with the Internet.
02:24:56.000But they're extraordinary, extraordinary documents in that... at americandeception.com.
02:25:03.000Now, going back, I'm going to, in brief, just tell you that when I got out of the Foreign Service in 1960... in 19...
02:25:13.000I was in the Foreign Service and with the American Red Cross for over a period of 15 years or something.
02:25:19.000And then I got married in Belgium, came back to the United States, became a school board member, went up against the change agents.
02:25:25.000I love it the way everybody's using the word change agent now.
02:25:28.000I might point out that I went through change agent training because a master teacher called me and she said, Charlotte, you're right on in your battle on the school board against your change agent superintendent, and I want you to go for training, and she paid for me to go, and it was at that training where I really got on my white horse, folks, and I've been on that white horse ever since, and I will never get off the horse as dirty as can be, but I will never get off because of what I was taught to do.
02:25:56.000I was taught, and we were all taught, And this was Ronald Havelock's Change Agents Guide.
02:26:03.000How to bring about change in your community and schools.
02:26:07.000And we were taught how to identify the resistors in our community.
02:26:12.000And also how to identify the important groups in the community, like the Chamber of Commerce, the Rotary Club, the Garden Club, etc.
02:26:20.000Nice people who really think they're doing such good work, and they've been taken by the change agents to get them on board to support sex ed, drug ed,
02:26:30.000Critical Thinking Ed, Deaf Ed, whatever, all the things that have Ed hanging off the end of it, which are geared not towards helping your child be a good citizen with good morals and values and be an individual in this world, but are geared towards brainwashing them to be exactly the opposite, to be little, little, utter chaotic freaks.
02:26:51.000And that is the goal of all this program.
02:26:54.000So I was taught how to get those programs in.
02:27:11.000Let's come back and encapsulate that, and then get into more quotes, what their plan is, how they've done everybody down, where they're going.
02:27:19.000We're going to footnote again those quotes, we'll go through some more of them, for the individuals out there who just want to say that we're talking about space aliens.
02:27:26.000We're talking to the former head of policy, number two position, Department of Education.
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02:31:21.000It's one thing to go read the book that took her over a decade to write for free, the LibraDumbingDown.com, and that's wonderful that she's done that.
02:31:27.000But I suggest you buy the book the size of a phone book.
02:33:53.000Charlotte, going back to you, I mean, I want to go over the key quotes, the key documents, and in a nutshell, when they took over education, how they converted it, how they federalized it, and then some solutions.
02:34:04.000You've got the floor, but I want to hear more of those quotes.
02:34:08.000Alex, I also want to point out, you're correct.
02:34:12.000I do have the book free on my website, and that's fine, but I've found that People, I thought when I did that, that I'd lose sales on the book, the real book, and in fact it increased sales, because people get tired of looking at the white screen, and so Alex, you shouldn't have any problem, you know, with the book.
02:34:32.000Well, there's something tactile about it, and you know, my stuff hauls free as well, about being able to hold it, see it, share it, carry it with you, yes, yes.
02:34:41.000So anyway, you know, we were talking about how The effort is not just to get the kids' minds, but it's the parents' as well.
02:34:49.000This is an outcomes-based ed quote, because people might say, oh, she's talking about all those old quotes way back there, with U.N.
02:34:57.000and Brock Chisholm talking about the, you know, the psychiatrist General Chisholm, good friend of Alger here, saying, we've got to get rid of the conscience.
02:35:05.000We're going to retrain the teachers like little psychiatrists.
02:35:35.000This is from one of the leaders in outcomes-based education, which we've been fighting across the country for ages, based on Skinner.
02:35:43.000Absolutely Pavlov's slobbering dog stimulus response.
02:35:47.000You know, I said Skinner, I could make a pigeon a high achiever.
02:35:50.000By reinforcing our proper schedule, and that's what they have to have that in.
02:35:54.000It's in now completely across the country because they need it for school to work.
02:35:58.000But this is a quote from John Champlin, terribly high up with William Spady and the whole crowd, American Association of School Administrators.
02:36:07.000This community, this is a program of theirs for outcomes-based education, direct instruction.
02:36:13.000This community effort should be designed both to re-educate and to re-norm parents and the general public.
02:36:22.000Think of re-norming the community the same way you conduct similar efforts in the school environment.
02:36:42.000Now, I'm going to read another one, which actually is proof positive.
02:36:48.000When you have people saying, oh, you're wrong, deaf ed, sex ed, critical thinking ed, you name it, whatever, those things, the education that has Has education hanging off the end of it?
02:37:00.000Oh, they're for the good of the child, and the families should be really happy the schools are involved in that.
02:37:07.000Well, I got ahold, this is in deliberate dumbing down of America, I happened to be lucky enough to get ahold of the journal called the School Counselor.
02:37:19.000And it came that the American Personnel and Guidance Associates, you know those Nice guidance counselors that your children have access to.
02:37:29.000Quote, listen to this, the last goal is to help students, this is on deaf education, is to help students clarify their values on social and ethical issues.
02:37:41.000An underlying but seldom spoken assumption of much of the death education movement is that Americans handle death and dying poorly, and that we ought to be doing better at it.
02:37:53.000Well, they're probably talking about the fact that we believe in God, right?
02:37:57.000And that's where we deal with it very poorly.
02:38:00.000As in the case of many other problems, many Americans believe that education can initiate change.
02:38:11.000This is a direct quote, and think in terms of what this says.
02:38:16.000This actually says that they will be using death ed, the same way they use sex ed, to change our children's attitudes and values, so that children accept any sexual behavior, anything now.
02:39:05.000But anyway, it says, change is evident and death education will play as important a part in changing attitudes toward death as sex education played in changing attitudes toward sex information and wider acceptance of various sexual practices.
02:39:24.000Now look, if that doesn't tell you that they have deliberately, that's why I love the word deliberate in the title of my book, They have deliberately gone after your children's morals and values and your family.
02:39:37.000Now again, it's not just that they're perverts.
02:39:40.000If you actually read the eugenicists who started the social working in England, then in Germany, then in the U.S.
02:39:45.000as it migrated, they say that by having people be promiscuous, lots of partners, getting people used to abortions and birth control, it's meant to reduce the size of the family, thus to also attack it and break it down, just like the Soviets did.
02:40:01.000Well, that's right, and let me read this.
02:40:03.000Remember, I think the break came when I was doing Dr. Reginald Lurie.
02:40:19.000That's why we have all these people coming into our homes, early age, taking kids away from us, etc.
02:40:25.000Now, he said, quote, he's President of the Joint Commission.
02:40:30.000There is serious thinking among some of the future-oriented child development research people that maybe we can't trust the family alone to prepare young children for this new kind of world which is emerging.
02:40:42.000The Soviets have long recognized the shortcomings of the family.
02:40:46.000That is one of the reasons they felt they needed to have access to the babies.
02:40:50.000During the first 18 months of life, the brain is growing faster than it ever will again.
02:40:54.000It is then also more plastic and most available for appropriate experience and corrective.
02:41:02.000And that's why they openly say in Europe and here that they want to get people on welfare so they get the children and now they're offering even middle-class people, oh let us take care of your baby, let us pay the kids to stay late till eight o'clock at night.
02:41:35.000He's the only one that constantly is talking about bringing it down.
02:41:40.000If that was all he recommended, folks, he should be president for that!
02:41:45.000Because the future of our country depends on how our children have been educated as little individuals for upward mobility, having an understanding of the world, not trained like rats!
02:42:12.000I remember reading the National Association of Psychologists, Psychiatrists in the 40s, where they said Americans are the smartest, they read the best, all the inventions are from here.
02:42:21.000We've got to, they've used words like dumb them down, lower their horizons, constrict them, teach them to be cogs in the planned society.
02:42:29.000The middle class is going to compete with the social planners.
02:42:38.000They openly said they were going to do this, just by making education boring and not making sense they do it.
02:42:44.000And they took us from the highest test scores way down.
02:42:46.000Uh, and I'm going from memory, but on that National Banking Association document about how we gotta take over education and stop them from reading.
02:42:53.000I mean, you know, now they can claim it's for all these reasons, and you're four or five generations into cult-like teachers and social workers.
02:43:11.000And you know, for those who really want a good document to show to people who say, oh, well, you know, things aren't so bad, the education schools aren't so bad, at American Deception, there's an entry, and it doesn't take much, it's about eight pages, and go in there, folks, and just type into the search engine up there, H-I-G-N-I-T-E.
02:43:38.000And you are going to see there a test on the Constitution that is about 12 pages long.
02:43:46.000This Kenny Hignite, someone at a conference in California gave this to me, gave me the actual test with Kenny Hignite's handwriting on it.
02:44:04.000He had to name all the cabinet officials.
02:44:06.000He had to know all the Bill of Rights.
02:44:07.000He had to understand the Constitution, the three branches of government.
02:44:11.000He had to know, unbelievable, the protections, everything, and he got 99.
02:44:17.000Go there and look at it, and you know what you can do with that?
02:44:22.000You can cut and paste, and you can send that to anybody you want on a computer and prove to them This was America's public school system as late as 1953.
02:44:33.000So it was a deliberate, you know, from 1945 on, he just escaped it, 1945 on, that was the UN, going to the UN, UNESCO, get rid of academics, you know, Brock Chisholm, the teacher becomes the psychiatrist, then we have the agreements with the Soviet Union, Reagan signed, merging the two systems, all of that came after 1945.
02:44:57.000But this was 1953 before Hignite had been hit, when there were still very good teachers around.
02:45:04.000There still are some who try to do this.
02:45:06.000But look at that, because it shows how very deliberate this whole agenda has been to dumb down your children, to strip them of their values, to make them into the little new Soviet man.
02:45:21.000Because everything in education has been Sovietized by now.
02:45:27.000It goes right along with William Foster's book.
02:45:30.000He was chairman of the Communist Party USA in the 30s.
02:45:34.000Buried in the Kremlin, and he said, called for a U.S.
02:45:38.000Department of Ed., called for getting rid of religion, called for putting in the scientific Pavlovian method, called for all of these things that are being taught in the schools now.
02:45:51.000So, all of those, you're wonderful listeners out there who are homeschooling, Or who are in private schools that don't accept a penny of any form of tax money, federal, state, or local.
02:46:04.000Those are the people whose children are going to save this country.
02:46:08.000And the public schools, I'm sorry to say it, because I'm a great supporter, always have been, of public education, because it was the best system in the world.
02:46:18.000But all the money that's gone in, the multi-billions of dollars, trillions of dollars, from 1981 when I was there, the Department of Ed was $12 billion.
02:46:29.000And that's the centerpiece, the headquarters for distributing all the destructive, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-common sense programs for retraining teachers, Deliberately ruining your children, making them into robots.
02:46:44.000I want to throw a program note in here.
02:46:46.000I was on the message board and professors and all these other people were finding all these other horrible quotes saying the family's bad, the family has to be gotten rid of, the family is a sickness, a disease.
02:46:56.000And then now it moved off of the PrisonPlanet.com forum.
02:47:00.000I can't find it in the sub pages and I can't find it in recent posts.
02:47:04.000Can somebody, I know it grew full of quotes and I want to go back and vet those and follow those back for an article we're doing.
02:47:11.000Can whoever has that page repost it in a recent post or post it at the top or something.
02:47:19.000Charlotte, I know you had other quotes you wanted to read before we hit that break 30 minutes ago.
02:47:22.000Do you want to read any more quotes you didn't have time to get to about the family being bad?
02:47:31.000This may hook into what you were talking about.
02:47:33.000Arthur Calhoun's A Social History of the American Family in 1919.
02:47:38.000There are three volumes, I believe, and in the third volume he says, quote, the new view is that the higher and more obligatory relation is to society rather than to the family.
02:47:52.000The family goes back to the age of savagery.
02:47:56.000Well, the state belongs to the age of civilization.
02:48:00.000The modern individual is a world citizen, served by the world, and home interest can no longer be supreme.
02:48:07.000As soon as the new family, consisting of only the parents and the children, stood forth, society saw how many were unfit for parenthood, and began to realize the need of community care.
02:48:21.000And he goes on there, if you want the rest of the quote.
02:48:24.000What they did is, it wasn't a 1919 book.
02:48:26.000They took that quote, and then in the UT textbook I was looking at, when they were using there, University of Texas at Austin, it then went on to say, it's, the family's a disease.
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02:52:03.000It's now up on the shopping cart and the recommended books and videos at InfoWars.com.
02:52:07.000You can get it in game, half price, when you get the phone book size book, Deliberate Dumbing Down.
02:52:12.000Every educator, every person that has children in a government education camp, indoctrination center, Now again, we're four or five generations into this.
02:52:20.000The average social worker, the average teacher doesn't even see what's happening around them.
02:52:24.000In the founding documents right through the seventies, they were quite honest.
02:52:29.000In higher level documents for master educators, special schools they're sent to, even above the masters and PhD level.
02:52:38.000And correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, Charlotte.
02:52:40.000So, some social worker listening may not even know this, but it's the attitude, it's the idea, it's the guilty until proven innocent.
02:52:47.000It's the whole system of destroying families and making us all cogs in this larger system.
02:52:53.000The sodium fluoride in the water to dumb us down, now public.
02:52:56.000That's not even Scientific American admits that.
02:52:59.000As you said, the people now know this is going on.
02:53:01.000They don't know the full horror or the full details.
02:53:04.000But even George Carlin gets up and says the corporations, you know, run the system to dumb everybody down, you know, when he talks about education.
02:53:11.000They test to see how much they've dumbed you down, then they lower the test bar.
02:53:16.000Charlotte, re-intro what year he wrote that, 1919, the name, because Aaron missed that.
02:54:54.000That's page 85 in my book and it calls for, it says right here, 1971, it says, recent discoveries from the field of biochemistry suggest that all these drugs will improve learning such as persistence, the application of biochemical research findings, will be a source of controversy when children become the object of such experimentation.
02:55:17.000Schools will be conceivably swept in a whole new area of collaboration and research with biochemists and psychologists to improve learning.
02:56:14.000And you can hear the streams going out right now.
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