Alex Jones Show - February 05, 2008


20080205_Tue_Alex


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 56 minutes

Words per Minute

172.6593

Word Count

30,483

Sentence Count

2,471

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

50


Summary

Colorado We Are Change confronts Bill Clinton and the mainstream media with their version of what really happened on 9/11. Willie Nelson's interview on the Drudge Report is censored by mainstream media. Mainstream media cover-ups. Big Brother. Government cover-up. You want answers? Well, so does he.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Big Brother.
00:00:07.000 Mainstream media.
00:00:08.000 Government cover-ups.
00:00:10.000 You want answers?
00:00:12.000 Well, so does he.
00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:17.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:00:21.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:43.000 Welcome.
00:00:43.000 Thank you so much for joining us today.
00:00:47.000 It is already the fifth day of February 2008.
00:00:49.000 We're going to be live for the next three hours.
00:00:53.000 Once a month, Mike Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com joins us in the second hour.
00:00:58.000 Riding shotgun halfway into that interview will be Colorado We Are Change.
00:01:03.000 He's confronted Mitt Romney, Bill Clinton, and many others in the last week.
00:01:07.000 We've now gotten the We Are Change video.
00:01:09.000 ABC News would show big wide shots of Clinton yelling at them.
00:01:13.000 We learned that ABC had cameras up close, but chose to not show you what they were actually saying.
00:01:20.000 We actually have their video and their audio of what they were bringing up to Bill Clinton, so you can actually get both sides of that exchange that happened late last week.
00:01:32.000 So that is coming up today with Colorado.
00:01:36.000 We are change.
00:01:37.000 As we are change, this explodes all across the planet thanks to the leadership of Luke Radowsky and all the great people that rallied to the banner of 9-11 Truth.
00:01:46.000 Speaking of 9-11 Truth, you know we had Willie Nelson on yesterday and I want to take your calls, get your take on that.
00:01:52.000 This is about survival.
00:01:53.000 This is about living.
00:01:54.000 If they, if the establishment is able to stage terror attacks and get away with it, like Oklahoma City, the first World Trade Center attack in 1993, and many other events, the Gulf of Tonkin staged event, the USS Liberty with Israel in the U.S., if they're able to stage the overthrow of Mozedek with staged events, they're going to continue to do it with bigger and bigger events in the very near future.
00:02:19.000 This is life and death to expose this, and That's why I've been somewhat successful at taking action against the New World Order, because I realize that this is a life-and-death situation.
00:02:32.000 And I have to tell you that I've noticed that the vast majority of 9-11 truth sites, the vast majority of quote, Patriot, alternative news sites, think that they're in competition with me because I'm the 800-pound gorilla.
00:02:46.000 This is life and death, and it's one thing to have the Drudge Report posted last night, our article about Willie Nelson saying the towers were destroyed by controlled demolition.
00:02:56.000 It's another thing to have some of the biggest sites out there refuse to link to anything we put out or anything we do just out of pure competitiveness and jealousy.
00:03:06.000 I link to everybody's websites.
00:03:09.000 I even have links to competing radio networks on my websites.
00:03:12.000 This is about survival.
00:03:14.000 And if you don't stab me in the back repeatedly, I will work with you, I will have you on, I will promote you.
00:03:20.000 But I want to turn the listeners loose, not on mainstream media.
00:03:24.000 They play all sorts of games, censoring Ron Paul, lying about Ron Paul, never showing what We Are Change says up close, though they had cameras up close.
00:03:33.000 You know, they play these type of games.
00:03:35.000 But see, We Are Change doesn't care about being in the news.
00:03:38.000 Their name being in the news, which the media, you notice, nationally is always very careful not to say their name.
00:03:44.000 They don't care about having their name in the news.
00:03:46.000 They care about bringing murderers to justice and stopping martial law.
00:03:50.000 They got their heads screwed on straight.
00:03:52.000 Luke Rodowski has his head screwed on straight.
00:03:54.000 And that's why it's been successful.
00:03:56.000 He has the proper spirit.
00:04:00.000 A lot of you out there do not have the proper spirit.
00:04:03.000 I don't mean my listeners.
00:04:04.000 And so know this.
00:04:05.000 The mainstream media and alternative media is censoring the Willie Nelson story.
00:04:10.000 They're fools!
00:04:11.000 We bring this show, most of the people, into this movement so they can then be filtered out to you.
00:04:16.000 We are not in competition with each other.
00:04:18.000 You can take my name out, I don't care, but talk about how Willie Nelson, I mean, he is in the top ten icons.
00:04:26.000 I mean, the guy is as big, you know, as an icon globally as Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:04:30.000 He's as well known.
00:04:31.000 He is Americana.
00:04:33.000 He says he's afraid of martial law, suspension of election, and the government carried out the attacks of 9-11.
00:04:39.000 That is a big deal.
00:04:41.000 I want you to go to Infowars.com.
00:04:44.000 I want you to go to PrisonPlanet.com.
00:04:46.000 I want you to get the articles we've written and posted in the audio files, and I want you to ram them down the Internet's throat and go absolutely insane, Infowarriors.
00:04:55.000 We are changers, liberty lovers.
00:04:57.000 Go wild!
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00:08:38.000 Radio Network and the combat shoot 'em up video games that are coming out right now.
00:08:43.000 And you look at many of the TV shows including 24 now.
00:08:47.000 They are now putting out the plots that secret elements of the government are the ones staging the terror attacks.
00:08:57.000 Now, the news is controlled.
00:08:59.000 The dominant national television is run by spooks.
00:09:03.000 That's come out in congressional hearings back in the 70s.
00:09:06.000 That's admitted.
00:09:07.000 That doesn't mean everybody working there are spooks.
00:09:09.000 Key people, key gatekeepers at key positions.
00:09:14.000 But there's two ways to look at what Hollywood and television is doing right now.
00:09:18.000 Why are they putting out so many plots where the government is staging terror attacks or going to stage a nuke attack to set up total martial law in the United States?
00:09:31.000 There's really several ways to look at this.
00:09:33.000 There's more than two ways to look at it.
00:09:36.000 It's revelation of the method.
00:09:37.000 It's psychological conditioning.
00:09:39.000 It's the globalists throwing it in your face before they do it.
00:09:44.000 It's the establishment bragging, gang member type of tells, or it's a fight within the elite, and one section of the establishment, we know they do fight with each other at certain levels, does not want the military-industrial complex to stage events, and nukes going off in U.S.
00:10:07.000 cities are in the cards.
00:10:09.000 Council on Foreign Relations has said it's going to happen.
00:10:14.000 And they've said Dallas, Cleveland, Denver.
00:10:18.000 I mentioned one other city, I forget now, it was three years ago, four years ago.
00:10:21.000 So it could be the establishment fighting amongst themselves, or it could be good people, good writers in Hollywood, people that know what's going on, who are trying to warn the population as best they can. people that know what's going on, who are trying to Now Now, I tend to think it's a mix of all three.
00:10:45.000 Some of it's throwing it in your face.
00:10:46.000 Some of it's writers sneaking stuff through.
00:10:49.000 Some of it is different sectors of the power elite who want to go with the slower Fabian Socialist Brave New World model than a fast fascist shift into total control.
00:11:02.000 In fact, it's always a mix of things.
00:11:04.000 Nothing in life is just one thing or the other.
00:11:06.000 It's almost always a combination.
00:11:10.000 But here is the new three-minute season promo for Jericho on CBS that is running right now.
00:11:18.000 Then I'm going to give the Willie Nelson interview and a lot more.
00:11:20.000 Here it is.
00:11:21.000 Jericho.
00:11:23.000 A small town in Kansas had witnessed a series of nuclear attacks that destroyed 23 American cities in a single day.
00:11:30.000 The attacks crippled and fractured the U.S. government.
00:11:37.000 government and left our town cut off from the world.
00:11:40.000 Please help us.
00:11:42.000 This country is at war.
00:11:44.000 We need to know it.
00:11:47.000 Even in the worst of times, it's possible to find the best in ourselves and in others.
00:11:55.000 Robert Hawkins, a covert agent who was supposed to stop the attacks, is now hunted by his former bosses for the secret he holds.
00:12:04.000 What is that?
00:12:07.000 A nuclear bomb.
00:12:08.000 There were dozens of these things used in the attacks, right?
00:12:12.000 And now you have the last one.
00:12:14.000 Evidence.
00:12:14.000 The smoking gun behind the greatest crime in the history of the world.
00:12:19.000 Now, as we're about to be overwhelmed by a hostile neighboring town, a new government appears, based out of Cheyenne, Wyoming.
00:12:27.000 The government of a new face, flying a new flag.
00:12:33.000 No!
00:12:35.000 They fought to save their town.
00:12:38.000 Now they're about to change the future of a nation.
00:12:53.000 The street between these two towns is now freshly old.
00:13:00.000 There isn't going to be any reconciliation until he's dead.
00:13:07.000 I have evidence that could expose a whole color.
00:13:21.000 Tick!
00:13:21.000 Tick!
00:13:25.000 This is the flag of a new country flying from the Mississippi to the Pacific.
00:13:29.000 God bless the allied states of America!
00:13:31.000 The wait is over.
00:13:32.000 Tick!
00:13:33.000 The wait is over.
00:13:33.000 Tick!
00:13:44.000 Jericho, the return.
00:13:50.000 February 12th on CBS.
00:13:52.000 Yes. . .
00:13:57.000 You know, I have met a lot of the big Hollywood writers.
00:14:02.000 One of them, Marconi, who... I ought to get him on sometime.
00:14:06.000 He doesn't mind if I talk about it.
00:14:07.000 Who's got a big film coming out this year about government-sponsored terror.
00:14:12.000 He also, of course, wrote things like Enemy of the State with Will Smith.
00:14:18.000 And he knows all about the New World Order.
00:14:19.000 He came to the 9-11 Inside Job Symposium that we had in 2006.
00:14:26.000 Hard to believe that was almost two years ago.
00:14:28.000 And of course, Dean Haglund said the CIA would come and recommend plots for the X-Files and Lone Gunman.
00:14:37.000 And then they have a plot where exactly what happened happened.
00:14:39.000 A secret element in the government hijacks a jet by remote control.
00:14:43.000 They have the rest of NORAD stand down, telling them it's just a drill.
00:14:47.000 They're going to blame it on Afghan terrorists.
00:14:49.000 I mean, six months before 9-11, that airs on Fox television.
00:14:54.000 I mean, exact.
00:14:56.000 Police officers out there listening, you're not stupid.
00:14:58.000 I mean, what is that?
00:15:02.000 What is that?
00:15:04.000 And they do it over and over again.
00:15:05.000 There's literally thousands of examples, so many I can't even remember them all, of where they flaunt and throw their stuff in our face.
00:15:12.000 But I know quite a few of the writers We are good and know what's going on.
00:15:19.000 And I know part of the writer's strike, I've been told, is because they were telling them what they could and couldn't write.
00:15:23.000 And we're trying to control them.
00:15:28.000 And trying to make them spew propaganda.
00:15:34.000 But the neocons, I'll never forget U.S.
00:15:36.000 News and World Report, right before the election in 2004, the last presidential election, They had a report saying top White House official tells us secretly, we can't tell you who it is, that we will be nuked.
00:15:53.000 That there will be a nuke go off.
00:15:56.000 Probably before the election.
00:15:58.000 Now, they used the Cold War fear after they gave the Russians the A-bomb and the hydrogen bomb and they fried some patsies.
00:16:08.000 And they had duck and cover and said we were going to have war, and that didn't happen.
00:16:11.000 So, they may not do it.
00:16:12.000 The point is, they told us that there's all these nukes in the country.
00:16:15.000 They claim that the Russians sold them in Cracker Jack boxes to whoever wanted them.
00:16:19.000 Totally made up.
00:16:22.000 They tell us that Alexander Levin went public on it, and then his helicopter crashed.
00:16:28.000 The top Russian general.
00:16:31.000 All I know is, if you don't think the New World Order to bring in their world government won't set off nukes, or won't release bird flu, or won't do something else like that, you are gravely mistaken.
00:16:41.000 They'll kill 3,000, they'll kill 3 million.
00:16:45.000 And they'll do it with pleasure.
00:16:47.000 And they haven't spent decades setting up a total police state takeover system for no reason.
00:16:54.000 So the police, the military, everybody Out there should know.
00:16:58.000 When you've got scores of TV shows with the basic plotline you just heard from Jericho, why, and by the way, in the plotline it's come out that it's the government, a faction, they haven't said exactly what faction, but I'll bet money just from watching that piece, that it's going to be quote, Bible-thumpers, right-wingers in the government that are going to set off nukes to do all this.
00:17:20.000 That set off the 23 nukes so they could destroy the government and take over themselves.
00:17:27.000 Because that's always the bad guys.
00:17:31.000 They know the public knows that 9-11 is an inside job, so they're... a lot of these plots are being written because they're just... they know they have to go with the flow.
00:17:41.000 So we've gone a long way from six and a half years ago when I first got on air before 9-11, on the day of 9-11, and brought forward the point that it was an inside job.
00:17:50.000 And others as well saw what was coming, and the propaganda was so clear.
00:17:55.000 But when you see television programs like this, you better know that it is in the cards.
00:18:01.000 Just like Russian Roulette, you got six cylinders, six 357 Magnum casings and rounds loaded in.
00:18:10.000 There's one round loaded into the six chambers.
00:18:13.000 They're spinning it.
00:18:14.000 It's in the cards.
00:18:16.000 And they're going click, click, click, spin, click, click, up against our head, and I don't like it.
00:18:23.000 And they need to stop it, and this doesn't need to happen!
00:18:28.000 But if we're just a bunch of football-watching, beer-swilling, yuppie know-it-alls, stumbling around acting cool, talking about killing Al Ketter, you just can't do that anymore, you neocon trolls on the web, and the neocon bought and paid for people running our media.
00:18:44.000 And the liberals that are, I mean, watching this We Are Change video up close of him confronting Bill Clinton and watching the people come up and put their hands on him and stick their Hillary signs in front of the brave guy's face.
00:18:54.000 I'm going to get his name from We Are Change when they come on.
00:19:00.000 We're trying to get him on.
00:19:02.000 I didn't write it down.
00:19:02.000 Trey just mentioned it to me.
00:19:05.000 And he's sitting there for five minutes yelling at Bill Clinton.
00:19:09.000 As Bill Clinton tries to use mass psychology, laughing at him, and people are booing him, all those poor, you know, well-meaning, dumb-as-dirt liberals, you're just as dumb as all the neocons following Bush.
00:19:23.000 You've bought into a brand name of the Democratic Party of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and it's shameful.
00:19:31.000 These are cold-blooded intelligence operatives that work for a very sinister organization.
00:19:37.000 Call it the New World Order.
00:19:38.000 Call it the Illuminati.
00:19:39.000 Call it chaos.
00:19:40.000 Call it death.
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00:24:42.000 You know when I met Willie Nelson a few months ago and learned that he'd been watching my show and listening to the show for many years, I didn't really get into it much on air.
00:24:53.000 And then I didn't really push to get him on the show and boom he called and we had him on and I didn't really push to have him talk about 9-11.
00:25:00.000 I didn't want to get him into a big controversy and then he brought it up.
00:25:07.000 He brought it up and said, yeah, they blew the towers up.
00:25:09.000 Yeah, they want martial law.
00:25:11.000 He's afraid they'll suspend the election.
00:25:15.000 It's certainly in the cards, as I like to say.
00:25:17.000 I mean, Willie Nelson is a global icon.
00:25:24.000 He is pure Americana.
00:25:26.000 And he's a very intelligent man.
00:25:28.000 You get a chance to talk to him on the phone for 10-15 minutes.
00:25:32.000 You get a chance to meet him in person.
00:25:34.000 I mean, he's the real deal.
00:25:35.000 He's down to earth as it gets.
00:25:39.000 And he came on air and he brought up serious issues and we were hit by trolls like we've never seen on our message boards, at theprisonplanet.com forum, on YouTube, on the newinfowars.com, sections where you can post on all the stories.
00:25:54.000 And they just repeated the same thing over and over again, like zombies.
00:25:58.000 Willie Nelson smokes weed!
00:25:59.000 Willie Nelson smokes weed!
00:26:01.000 Well, it's a lot less worse for you than alcohol.
00:26:05.000 And so, since he smokes weed, we can't listen to a word he said.
00:26:07.000 Of course, George Washington smoked it.
00:26:09.000 Mary Jane.
00:26:10.000 So, I guess he can't be our founding father, either.
00:26:14.000 Just absolutely ridiculous and sophomoric.
00:26:19.000 But a lot of it had to look a Cointelpro.
00:26:23.000 Their M.O.
00:26:25.000 is to come on and say, how dare you say the firefighters and police carried out the attacks?
00:26:29.000 You're saying the government did it.
00:26:30.000 Why did they run into the buildings?
00:26:33.000 When you're on the ground at Ground Zero and the known Feds are out there confronting you, trying to start fights, they always say that.
00:26:39.000 That's what a Fed says.
00:26:40.000 Most of them are just useful neocon idiots, who think open borders and gun control and Ann Coulter and endorsing Hillary Clinton is good.
00:26:51.000 I mean, they're into the party, they're into the ideal, they don't admit the fact that the vast majority of the troops are against the war, support Ron Paul, they're in total denial.
00:27:01.000 But to say that we say the police and firemen were involved in the attacks, they went into the buildings, they died.
00:27:07.000 And then they reported bombs going off and they were told to get out of seven because they were going to bring it down.
00:27:11.000 They're the heroes!
00:27:13.000 And by the way, by September 12th, I was saying the dust was poisonous, and I was saying, send gas masks.
00:27:19.000 The Genesis Network was saying send gas masks, and we listed two local churches that were trying to get mask filters for the people, and I know my listeners sent thousands of filters.
00:27:30.000 Go listen to the September 12th show.
00:27:31.000 I'm not tooting our horn, but we know what we're doing.
00:27:34.000 We're smart.
00:27:35.000 We assess things with critical thinking.
00:27:39.000 They didn't need you hanging American flags outside your house from what the American flag symbolizes is dying.
00:27:44.000 They need you to actually give them filters.
00:27:47.000 And to stand up to the EPA opening scores of schools and thousands of businesses two days after saying the air was good when there was two feet of concrete and mercury on the ground.
00:27:59.000 And every other toxic chemical you can imagine.
00:28:01.000 Tens of thousands of computers.
00:28:04.000 The thermostats, the light bulbs, all of it aerosolized into fine powder.
00:28:09.000 By whatever turned those buildings into dust right in front of everyone!
00:28:12.000 Fire doesn't make a bunch of buildings turn to pulverized pyroclastic volcanic flow!
00:28:18.000 And five weeks later, 2500 degrees, NASA photos!
00:28:25.000 But you sit there and you try to block us.
00:28:27.000 Now, we ran into major censorship.
00:28:30.000 I have watched the Drugs Report since 1996.
00:28:32.000 I know his pattern.
00:28:34.000 Stories stay on the site on average of about eight hours and then they move down and about four hours later they're gone.
00:28:40.000 He rotates the site twice a day.
00:28:44.000 It's being updated every hour and it just scrolls down.
00:28:49.000 He's got a couple people that work for him.
00:28:51.000 Brett Bart is one of them, the main guy running it.
00:28:54.000 Brett Bart, no doubt, posted the Charlie Sheen and within one hour it was down.
00:29:03.000 And it's a big site.
00:29:03.000 It's what all the big newspapers and people look at.
00:29:05.000 It's declining in popularity as people figure out he's a neocon.
00:29:08.000 He's lost his radio show and a lot of other things.
00:29:10.000 But it's one of the biggest sites out there.
00:29:15.000 There are sites a lot bigger, but they have thousands of pieces of media to pick from.
00:29:18.000 He'll only have 50 or 60.
00:29:19.000 So that's where you get real focus there.
00:29:20.000 That's a breakthrough point.
00:29:22.000 Yesterday, he put a link, Brett Bart did, up to, from Drudge, up to, InfoWars.com.
00:29:35.000 And within one hour, it was taken down, though saved in the archive, and that link went back to Drudge.
00:29:40.000 Now, I expect that from Matt Drudge.
00:29:43.000 The neocons shniveled.
00:29:45.000 But I do not expect that from the alternative media.
00:29:48.000 We'll talk about it when we get back.
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00:32:59.000 This is the end.
00:33:02.000 Beautiful friend.
00:33:07.000 This is the end.
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00:33:39.000 Or are we going to sit around and play patty cake?
00:33:45.000 Roger, Jim, Elijah, others, your calls are coming up here in just a few minutes.
00:33:49.000 The toll-free number to join me on air is 1-800-259-9231.
00:33:52.000 Alright, finishing up with Willie Nelson, we're going to re-air some of the interview, a few minutes of it today, and then we're also going to have again Mike Rivera on.
00:34:05.000 Colorado, we are Change Your Calls.
00:34:09.000 Here are the different stories.
00:34:10.000 Willie Nelson fears election could be canceled.
00:34:13.000 We could Have George in there ten years longer, says country music star.
00:34:19.000 Drudge Report cans Willie Nelson's story, 9-11 revelations, briefly on the Popular News website front page.
00:34:27.000 Quickly removed, Willie Nelson's explosive take on 9-11 at the collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7, looked like a Las Vegas-style implosion, has largely been ignored by the media.
00:34:42.000 Thus far, though it briefly appeared on the front page...
00:34:47.000 of the Drudge Report before quickly being canned.
00:34:51.000 About an hour after we released the story, members of our forum alerted us to the fact that our headline had been posted on the front page of Drudge Report.
00:34:59.000 They took a screenshot as one of the biggest news websites in America and compete for traffic with the New York Times and Washington Post.
00:35:05.000 Though it was not linked to our website, the headline, Willie Nelson, Twin Towers Were Imploded on 9-11 Developing, appeared on the left-hand side of the Drudge Report late yesterday afternoon.
00:35:14.000 It was linked to Brett Barth.
00:35:16.000 It was linked to us.
00:35:17.000 However, within less than an hour or so, the headline was pulled from the front page.
00:35:24.000 A similar thing happened when Charlie Sheen went public with his 9-11 doubts in March of 2006.
00:35:28.000 The story briefly appeared on the Drudge before being removed.
00:35:32.000 To hazard a guess as to what happened, we believe that one of Drudge's assistants posted the headline before swiftly being overruled by Matt Drudge himself, resulting in the headline being Memory Hold.
00:35:41.000 The headline as it appeared on the Drudge before it was pulled can still be viewed at the Drudge Report Archives website which takes a screenshot of Drudge's front page every two minutes.
00:35:51.000 We think it was Brett Bart because he works for Drudge and he has his own website and he has left it up.
00:35:57.000 The story did make the front page of Breitbart, which is run by Drudge assistant Andrew Breitbart, meaning that it was probably Breitbart who posted the Willie Nelson story before being overruled by Drudge himself.
00:36:07.000 So why did Drudge pull the link?
00:36:09.000 Charlie Sheen's brave embrace of 9-11 Truth left the establishment media with two choices.
00:36:14.000 Either to ignore the story or attack Charlie Sheen.
00:36:16.000 They chose to attack Sheen and that decision disastrously backfired because it gave 9-11 Truth a public platform and promoted a national debate.
00:36:23.000 And you just see it exploding from that point.
00:36:25.000 When his father Martin Sheen went public a few months ago, the media took a different approach and completely blackballed the story.
00:36:31.000 It appears that Drudge has set the standard, and they have many sets of standards for many media reporting, for the second method to be employed again.
00:36:38.000 Though the story was covered last night by Texas News Channel, local ABC, The rest of the media are so far silent on the issue as it remains to be seen whether or not they will keep up a united front of censorship in an attempt to diffuse the importance of Willie Nelson's comments on yesterday's Alex Jones Show.
00:36:56.000 And I get these tired comments from the minority of even our listeners, emails, message board comments, I stand over it, I want your feedback, going, he's a star, a movie star, more than a hundred films, And, uh, the latest big one, the Dukes of Hazzard playing Grandpa Jesse, and, you know, who cares what Hollywood people, who cares what people say?
00:37:19.000 Well, they'll obsess 24-7 about anything anybody in Hollywood does all over every major TV news program.
00:37:28.000 When they're doing something stupid, but when Willie Nelson, who's always been socially active and been on the right side of every issue that I've seen, anti-war, against the drug war, Spoke out when they were banning people from the radio, and they tried to reduce his amount of playing on the radio.
00:37:45.000 They tried to shut down the Dixie Chicks and boycott them.
00:37:47.000 I mean, they're paying a price for this.
00:37:49.000 He knows what he's doing.
00:37:50.000 He has great courage to be doing this.
00:37:53.000 And it's news when Willie Nelson comes out and says he thinks we're going into a dictatorship, and they suspend the elections, and he hopes they don't.
00:38:00.000 He's trying to stop that, and that 9-11's an inside job.
00:38:03.000 I mean, that's news any way you cut it.
00:38:06.000 Dig, of course, banned all our stories and said they were spam.
00:38:10.000 No, it's news.
00:38:11.000 It's news.
00:38:12.000 Local Austin television.
00:38:14.000 KBUE knew it was news.
00:38:15.000 Let's play that local news clip.
00:38:17.000 It's very, very short.
00:38:20.000 Here it is.
00:38:21.000 Willie Nelson went on national radio today and questioned the official story of what happened on 9-11.
00:38:26.000 Nelson said the collapse of the World Trade Center towers reminded him of a hotel implosion in Las Vegas.
00:38:32.000 The day it happened, I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical.
00:38:32.000 Listen.
00:38:36.000 And I said, wait a minute, I just saw that last week at the, you know, at the casino over in Las Vegas.
00:38:43.000 And you see these implosions all the time, and the next one fell, and I said, hell, there's another one.
00:38:48.000 And they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it.
00:38:50.000 And that's, you know, I can't go along with that.
00:38:53.000 Nelson's publicist... Alright, there's more.
00:38:54.000 You can go watch the end of it up on InfoWars.com or PrisonPlanet.com.
00:38:59.000 But the point is, this is news.
00:39:03.000 And you bet, we want to get a new big 9-11 debate going back in the media again.
00:39:08.000 They've openly said in the National News, New York Times, time to forget 9-11, time for Bush to stop using it, time for Giuliani to stop using it for their aim of police state.
00:39:16.000 They didn't say that, they just said it's time to put it to rest because they know they're losing the debate.
00:39:21.000 They told 9-11 truthers it's time for you to shut up and time for everybody to forget about this and just move on to the next inaugural terror attack Hillary or McCain or whoever gets in is going to launch.
00:39:34.000 So there's several big stories.
00:39:36.000 Drug Report, Kans Willie Nelson story, need to get that out.
00:39:39.000 Another story, Willie Nelson fears an event that could keep Bush in office for another 10 years.
00:39:43.000 Op-Ed News did that, we need to get that out to people.
00:39:46.000 And of course there's the original story.
00:39:49.000 Willie Nelson, Towers, 9-11 Towers.
00:39:52.000 Let me get the actual headline on that because it's scrolled off the page now.
00:39:58.000 We probably need to post that back up because that's the That's the big story there.
00:40:03.000 Let me go to PrisonPlanet.com.
00:40:06.000 Willie Nelson, WTC imploded on 9-11.
00:40:09.000 It's in the News and Focus section on the right-hand side of PrisonPlanet.com.
00:40:15.000 I need you to put it on MySpace, YouTube, your email list, call into talk radio shows, call into country shows.
00:40:22.000 I mean, I even called into a few talk shows last night.
00:40:26.000 I mean, I put my money where my mouth is.
00:40:29.000 And I called into, I don't know, three or four shows last night and said, hey, we need to talk about this.
00:40:34.000 This needs to be covered.
00:40:36.000 And the big group that has no excuse is other patriot radio networks, other talk shows, people that talk about 9-11 truth.
00:40:49.000 I tuned into quite a few 9-11 truth shows last night.
00:40:51.000 I called in and asked board ops, hey, have they talked about this?
00:40:54.000 No, they're not talking about it.
00:40:54.000 Have I missed it?
00:40:57.000 So I called some hosts who said they knew that they were going to get around to it, which I believe was only six, seven hours, eight hours into it.
00:41:04.000 But now we're 24 hours into this, or about 22 hours right now, 23 hours.
00:41:09.000 And I want to see this break big because so many people love Willie Nelson.
00:41:15.000 The left loves him, libertarians love him, country, western music people, just people who like Americana culture.
00:41:24.000 I mean, I've seen the big global polls.
00:41:25.000 They have them every year about, you know, what do you associate with America, good things in America.
00:41:30.000 And they say baseball, Willie Nelson, apple pie.
00:41:35.000 I mean, he's up there with all those things.
00:41:38.000 He's a living legend.
00:41:40.000 The guy's been playing since 1949, been big since 1956.
00:41:44.000 I mean, he hung out with Elvis, Johnny Cash, all of them.
00:41:49.000 This is a living legend who came on this show, who contacted us and came on this show, And I said, Willie, I don't want to bring a bunch of controversial stuff, get a bunch of heat on you, and during the break, and he said, look, let's just get into serious stuff right now.
00:42:02.000 And now, in hindsight, I'm going to get him back on in the next few months and, you know, flesh it out when he talks about Bilderberg groups, or talking about endgame, and I'll move on.
00:42:09.000 Well, what do you think about the Bilderberg group?
00:42:10.000 Well, you know, well, what do you think about him using 9-11 for tyranny?
00:42:14.000 Or what do you think about the toll roads?
00:42:15.000 They tried to get him to name a bunch of trans-Texas toll roads after him, and one of my friends called him up.
00:42:20.000 I wish I could tell the story.
00:42:21.000 He doesn't want me to.
00:42:22.000 I should have brought this up to Willie, and I forgot.
00:42:25.000 But another music legend here locally called up Willie and said, look, you don't want him to, that's like naming, you know, an electric chair after you.
00:42:34.000 That's naming, every time somebody pays money, they're going to think about Willie Nelson.
00:42:37.000 They're going to throw one on I-35 and name it after him.
00:42:40.000 And Willie then went on TV and said, I've had second thoughts.
00:42:43.000 I don't want him to name an electric chair after me.
00:42:45.000 You know, Willie's a nice guy.
00:42:50.000 He tries to help people.
00:42:52.000 And, you know, he hadn't said yes to it yet, so I guess he really hadn't changed his mind, but they'd asked him to, and a week later he came out and said no.
00:43:01.000 He was against the toll roads.
00:43:03.000 So I forgot to ask him about toll roads.
00:43:05.000 Alright, I'm going to take some of your calls.
00:43:07.000 The point is, Willie Nelson has gone public.
00:43:11.000 Remember how they took the bait on Sheen?
00:43:14.000 And then it was big national debate all over the place, and then 9-11 Truth, all the 9-11 Truth sites had 4, 5, 6, 7, 10 times the traffic.
00:43:23.000 You remember that 9-11 sites?
00:43:25.000 And then out of that it just got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, and it's huge now!
00:43:29.000 This is another wave!
00:43:33.000 But they know Willie Nelson is loved.
00:43:35.000 They thought that they could demonize Sheen, blew up in their face, everybody resonated with his courage.
00:43:40.000 Because of stuff he did 10, 15 years ago.
00:43:41.000 You know, partying.
00:43:42.000 Liking women.
00:43:43.000 Whatever.
00:43:43.000 Oh, great sins.
00:43:45.000 Who hadn't sinned?
00:43:48.000 Especially if you're making 30 million dollars a year and you're 25, 30 years old, you know.
00:43:52.000 18 year old.
00:43:53.000 18 years old in Los Angeles.
00:43:55.000 Yeah, let's see how you behave.
00:43:58.000 Out there.
00:43:59.000 You ever been out there?
00:44:00.000 You ever been around it?
00:44:03.000 Anyways, I bet you haven't.
00:44:05.000 Well, I have.
00:44:08.000 But, uh, to make a long story short, ladies and gentlemen, we need to get this news and information out now.
00:44:17.000 This is important.
00:44:20.000 They are going to release a bioweapon, or they're going to blow up a string of buildings, or fly more planes into buildings, or set off a nuke.
00:44:26.000 I don't know what they're going to do, but the government keeps saying it's going to happen.
00:44:29.000 Not a question of if, but when.
00:44:30.000 Not a question of if, but when.
00:44:31.000 It's going to happen.
00:44:31.000 Going to happen.
00:44:32.000 We're going to have Marshall Walker.
00:44:33.000 It happens.
00:44:34.000 It's for your own good.
00:44:35.000 Do you see what's happening?
00:44:37.000 9-11 is the key.
00:44:38.000 We have to take the mechanism of false flag, state-sponsored stage terror, and take that mechanism and destroy it.
00:44:44.000 We need to break it right in front of the New World Order.
00:44:48.000 We need to dismantle it in front of them.
00:44:50.000 And we've been doing that, but we're not done.
00:44:54.000 And if the election ends, I love We Are Change and the other 9-11 truth groups and everybody else that's out there, because they're going and confronting the liberals, the Democrats, the people involved in the 9-11 cover-up.
00:45:03.000 They're going to continue this throughout the election.
00:45:05.000 It isn't ever going to stop!
00:45:08.000 And we may back them off.
00:45:09.000 They may not stage more events.
00:45:11.000 Or they may do it in the Middle East or something because we've exposed so much here.
00:45:15.000 We're trying to save lives.
00:45:16.000 We're in a race against time.
00:45:19.000 I look down the barrel of a gun every day.
00:45:21.000 This isn't fun.
00:45:21.000 This is work.
00:45:23.000 I was dead dog tired last night at 8 o'clock.
00:45:26.000 I didn't want to do my TV show.
00:45:27.000 I had a splitting headache.
00:45:29.000 But I drug my hind in there with Trey Kincaid, and we did that show.
00:45:34.000 And then I called in to 1, 2, 3, 4 radio shows after that until midnight.
00:45:40.000 I called in on the line, went on the shows, trying to get this information out.
00:45:45.000 Trying to break through the electronic Berlin Wall.
00:45:48.000 I need your help.
00:45:50.000 Willie Nelson gave us the ball.
00:45:53.000 We need to carry it now.
00:45:54.000 He is loved across the country.
00:45:56.000 He is absolutely adored in the Midwest.
00:46:00.000 We need to hear every talk show.
00:46:01.000 We need to hear Gary Brownfield talking about this tomorrow.
00:46:04.000 Now he's usually four or five days behind on the news.
00:46:06.000 He's a great guy.
00:46:07.000 And he's on like 80-something stations.
00:46:09.000 We're all over the heartland into Colorado.
00:46:11.000 And he's all over the country from Indiana to Texas.
00:46:15.000 Need to hear Derry talking about this.
00:46:17.000 Need to hear every one of these shows talking about this.
00:46:20.000 And I could care less about hearing the name Alex Jones.
00:46:24.000 You can cut out my voice.
00:46:26.000 You can post the clips without me on your site.
00:46:30.000 You can write it and say on a radio show.
00:46:33.000 You can even say it was your radio show.
00:46:36.000 I don't care.
00:46:37.000 In fact, I want more of you to be big, more of you to be prominent.
00:46:42.000 You know, I've had people ask me to take over leadership of different 9-11 groups.
00:46:45.000 Can you imagine?
00:46:47.000 And I've told them, no, I'm not going to take over leadership of your We Are Change chapter or of your 9-11 Truth chapter.
00:46:53.000 You found more groups.
00:46:53.000 You be leaders.
00:46:55.000 Don't you know I could have a group and be the big pimp daddy?
00:46:58.000 Everybody's struggling.
00:47:00.000 Grasping after what I could have and I don't want.
00:47:04.000 I want to stop them from blowing up a couple cities and troops in the streets and it's all over.
00:47:10.000 It's camps, it's rape rooms, it's all of it.
00:47:14.000 We are one inch away from this.
00:47:18.000 Do you understand?
00:47:21.000 You think Willie Nelson likes having to come on here and talk about martial law?
00:47:25.000 And now he's afraid we're going to go into martial law?
00:47:28.000 Don't you think he's got better things to do?
00:47:30.000 He doesn't want to be attacked.
00:47:32.000 He's a meek person, but he has to do it, because if we don't expose this, more is going to happen.
00:47:37.000 Do you read me?
00:47:39.000 Do you understand?
00:47:40.000 This is life and death right now.
00:47:45.000 I want you to go up to InfoWars.com.
00:47:47.000 I want you to get the little nine minutes boil-down we did, video, where I'm here in studio interviewing him over the phone, but they've got a camera on me and pictures of him.
00:47:55.000 It makes it more viewable for people.
00:47:58.000 I want you to take that YouTube video and I want you to ram it down the throat.
00:48:02.000 I want you to go, each one of you who are web shabby, have a goal.
00:48:05.000 20 prominent message boards, go post it.
00:48:07.000 A piece.
00:48:09.000 We've got millions of listeners, hundreds of thousands of active web people listening right now.
00:48:13.000 If you'll do that, this story will roll over their blockade.
00:48:16.000 We'll run right through their censorship.
00:48:21.000 And I'm asking other networks.
00:48:23.000 And it's an olive branch.
00:48:25.000 Promote this, get this out, and I'll move one inch closer, and I'm only a few inches away from just openly promoting everybody.
00:48:33.000 I've been attacked a lot, a lot of things have happened.
00:48:35.000 I get to where I just isolate myself, stay away from everybody, because as I get bigger and bigger, the craziness and the jealousy and the envy... Look, it is not a fun job.
00:48:45.000 I got black circles around my eyes, I work all the time, I'm a machine.
00:48:50.000 This isn't about being cool.
00:48:52.000 You think I like pickin' a fight with hardcore killers in the New World Order?
00:48:57.000 You think I like endangering my family?
00:48:59.000 You think this is- GET YOUR HEAD SCREWED ON STRAIGHT!
00:49:03.000 GET YOUR HEAD SCREWED ON STRAIGHT!
00:49:04.000 This is life and death.
00:49:05.000 All right.
00:49:12.000 We're going to go to break.
00:49:13.000 I'm going to come back, and I'm going to take your calls in this segment and the next segment.
00:49:16.000 We're going to get Mike Rivero on.
00:49:17.000 Roger, Jim, I like you, others.
00:49:19.000 We'll definitely get to all of you before they come on with us.
00:49:21.000 We're going to have phones, you know, during Rivero, during we are changing to the third hour.
00:49:26.000 I got a bunch of other police state news.
00:49:28.000 Well, I say you're not going to believe it.
00:49:30.000 You will.
00:49:30.000 I guess it's all part of the course now.
00:49:35.000 But it's all just absolutely amazing.
00:49:37.000 And while I'm at it ranting, go to Google Video.
00:49:42.000 You know, they've taken the hit counters off.
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00:49:46.000 Because it's all Patriot stuff in the top 20 of the top 100.
00:49:51.000 Get that, get it out to everybody right now!
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00:50:00.000 Oh, thank you.
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00:50:08.000 Thank you.
00:50:09.000 Um... Multitasking here.
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00:54:38.000 Look, it's dangerous.
00:54:39.000 We can't let a bunch of killers run the government when they carried out the attacks.
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00:54:49.000 Roger, in Pennsylvania, then Jim, Elijah, and others.
00:54:53.000 Go ahead, Roger, thanks for holding.
00:54:55.000 Yeah, thanks, Alex.
00:54:57.000 After your usual brilliant opening monologue, I just about had the life sucked out of me with the last 20 minutes of rerun, unfortunately.
00:55:08.000 You know, arguably, the best thing out there, the most powerful, important thing out there, I'd give my eye teeth for that elephantine memory and recall.
00:55:18.000 Do you have an idea, Alex, how endlessly frustrating it is, not from the caller's but the listener's perspective, that is, on almost any of the most brilliant of your guests, there's almost none whose sentences can't better be completed by Alex himself, nor who might pursue a more Uh, important line that might occur to you.
00:55:45.000 Yeah, well, if you, um, and you're saying this politely, Roger, if you listen to the Willie Nelson interview, I would pause.
00:55:51.000 There'd be two second pauses.
00:55:53.000 Willie Nelson has short sentences.
00:55:56.000 And so I was filling up an hour.
00:55:57.000 Are you saying I was talking over?
00:55:59.000 I just, the overall, Ross, that's, yeah, you, I, we only construct the criticism.
00:56:05.000 No, I agree that maybe I could have just, hold on, let me finish.
00:56:08.000 Roger, you said something.
00:56:09.000 I'll let you talk.
00:56:09.000 I'm going to talk now.
00:56:10.000 Okay, that's not interrupting.
00:56:11.000 I'm talking.
00:56:13.000 Listen, I guess I could have just sat there for 10 seconds with a pregnant pause and made him say more.
00:56:20.000 Okay?
00:56:20.000 And it is true that I get excited, but I've gotten actually better about that.
00:56:25.000 No, we all have our faults, and I'm afraid my own would be worse than yours in the same position.
00:56:31.000 But we can all be improved, indeed.
00:56:34.000 I hope your board ops criticize you from time to time, and you welcome that from them.
00:56:39.000 Anyway, that's all.
00:56:40.000 That's the end of that.
00:56:42.000 There's not a single one of your listeners.
00:56:45.000 I'm going to cite the object lesson of the absolute worst radio station maybe in the U.S.
00:56:53.000 is WABC in New York.
00:56:55.000 Now, for the last three months, this is like screen and triple filters.
00:57:01.000 Now, I've gotten on there about seven right times.
00:57:03.000 Now, how did I pull that off is because I haven't really been trying.
00:57:06.000 There is no reason we can't double or triple your syndication every couple months.
00:57:12.000 Brutally incisive, powerful plugs for Ron Paul, combined with simultaneously exposing the intellectual and constitutional bankruptcy, plugging Alex, etc., and it's gobs and buckets of fun.
00:57:30.000 Now, we have to get our head in the hustings, and pamphleting for Ron Paul, etc.
00:57:36.000 Now, unfortunately, I'm not that ambitious.
00:57:40.000 So while washing my dishes, I only am able to reach anywhere from 10,000 to a million at a time.
00:57:47.000 Okay?
00:57:48.000 That's right!
00:57:49.000 You know, this is just so easy.
00:57:52.000 People think these shows are hard to penetrate, etc.
00:57:56.000 No, you just have to act stupid.
00:57:58.000 Now, I'll bet you, if just Two or three of those supposedly appreciative listeners follow through.
00:58:04.000 I'll be able to tell the difference because I do a lot of talk radio and I almost never hear any follow-up, reinforcement, building upon base of understanding.
00:58:16.000 God bless, Alex.
00:58:17.000 Thanks, Roger.
00:58:18.000 And by the way, you had four minutes of that five-minute segment.
00:58:21.000 Now let me add a key point to what he just said.
00:58:24.000 True conservatives, libertarians, true liberals, patriots have made Neocon Talk Radio start to criticize Bush and move away from the New World Order.
00:58:33.000 We're bending them.
00:58:36.000 So, what would happen if you all got in a fight?
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00:59:00.000 Government cover-ups.
00:59:03.000 You want answers?
00:59:04.000 Well, so does he.
00:59:05.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:15.000 We're back live, ladies and gentlemen, now into the second hour.
00:59:19.000 We are Change, Colorado.
00:59:20.000 Running Bill Clinton, Mitt Romney, and many others.
00:59:22.000 He's going to be joining us in about 30 minutes.
00:59:24.000 Rivera will be riding shotgun with us.
00:59:26.000 Right now, let's go to David in England and Jim, Elijah and others.
00:59:31.000 David in England, you're on the air.
00:59:32.000 Go ahead.
00:59:35.000 How are you today, Alex?
00:59:36.000 Good, sir.
00:59:36.000 Welcome.
00:59:37.000 Alex, I just want to say, I'll be very brief, because I know you've got a lot to get through, but it's an absolute pleasure talking to you.
00:59:44.000 And obviously, things over here in England are vastly different, although very similar, to the things you talk about every day.
00:59:51.000 I listen, you know, religiously every day.
00:59:53.000 The one thing that I want to urge your listeners to do is like pretty much what you've been saying today is we've really got to start manifesting this knowledge that you're going out and researching that we're collectively acquiring and use Google and use YouTube because we've been given tools
01:00:12.000 You know, these tools may be slowly being blunted by the New World Order and by these, you know, these almost fascist regimes that want to remove our liberties, but until that very last moment, you know, if we can keep hammering that nail into the wall... Oh yeah, we better use it before they try to take it away, and the more we use it, the harder it'll be for them to take it away.
01:00:33.000 Exactly, Alex, and another thing which I want to also really urge your listeners and people who follow you is that We've really got to work together and I've noticed that people using YouTube and I remember a couple of weeks back there was a chap on YouTube you know he quite heavily criticized you with a very little amount of you know intellectual backing or research behind him.
01:00:57.000 He got some really sort of vitriol comments thrown at him and the issue got detracted and it became a sniping match and all I'm saying is this anger or this Passion.
01:01:08.000 I think about it as passion, which you have, Alex.
01:01:11.000 I applaud you for the job you're doing.
01:01:16.000 It can't be easy, but we have to work together.
01:01:19.000 We can't snipe and use this energy we've been given from above, from the Buddha.
01:01:24.000 I hear you, and I appreciate your call.
01:01:26.000 It's great to have you tuned in, David.
01:01:28.000 Let's go to Jim in Florida.
01:01:29.000 I'm trying to cram everybody in.
01:01:30.000 Jim, go ahead.
01:01:33.000 Uh, Webb Tarpley always emphasizes the Angel is next threat if that's what it is.
01:01:38.000 I don't think I've ever heard your hunches on that subject.
01:01:41.000 What's the next threat?
01:01:43.000 The Angel is next threat on Air Force One that Bush supposedly, that we heard he got on Air Force One.
01:01:50.000 Webb Tarpley always emphasizes that.
01:01:52.000 There's somehow somebody who had the code for the day of what Air Force One was, was Angel, and he, uh, we called in a threat to Air Force One that said Angel is next.
01:02:03.000 In other words, we're going to get you next if you don't go along with our plan.
01:02:07.000 Yeah, I'm aware of the code word Angel, and I've seen those reports.
01:02:11.000 All I know is it's an inside job, and then we've caught them.
01:02:14.000 They've declassified that our government staged lots of things before, so the prime suspect here And Congress should know that this Bush saying he's above continuity of government, that he could decapitate them now.
01:02:29.000 Uh-huh.
01:02:29.000 So it's... We've all got a noose around our neck.
01:02:33.000 It's like, do we want to twiddle our... so the trapdoor falls out from our doors, you know?
01:02:38.000 I hear you.
01:02:38.000 I appreciate your call.
01:02:39.000 Your phone's breaking up a bit.
01:02:40.000 Elijah in California, and I'll probably hold you over.
01:02:42.000 Go ahead, Elijah.
01:02:45.000 Um...
01:02:48.000 It's just an honor to just talk to you on the radio.
01:02:51.000 How old are you, Elijah?
01:02:53.000 Are you about 10, 12?
01:02:53.000 About 12.
01:02:55.000 Me and my dad watch your show all day.
01:02:58.000 He's the reason he's on the computer.
01:03:02.000 He watches you night and day.
01:03:05.000 And the reason how we found out about you is about a few years ago when you went undercover and you saw those people Oh, was she in MoLab?
01:03:16.000 Yes.
01:03:18.000 And it was just amazing.
01:03:20.000 And I opened my eyes to Ron Paul and everybody at home.
01:03:25.000 And 9-11.
01:03:26.000 Elijah, stay there.
01:03:26.000 I want you to be able to finish up, then Mike Rivero.
01:03:29.000 And then Jim and Jim and many others that are patiently holding.
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01:03:33.000 Stay there, Elijah.
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01:07:00.000 We're back live.
01:07:18.000 Mike Rivero is about to be with us.
01:07:20.000 He's waiting in the wings.
01:07:22.000 Let's go back to Elijah in California.
01:07:25.000 Twelve years old.
01:07:29.000 Go ahead and finish up what you were saying, son.
01:07:31.000 I was just saying that it was just great about what you're doing.
01:07:35.000 I really appreciate it.
01:07:36.000 Me and my dad.
01:07:38.000 My dad was going to talk to you, but he was a little too much of a chicken.
01:07:44.000 Me and my dad wanted to talk to you about the chemtrolls, chemical trolls, that you've been leaving at California.
01:07:50.000 These alpines have been spraying these stuff around in these days and it makes clouds and clouds.
01:07:58.000 And we did some research about it.
01:08:00.000 And it has high barium and at night it comes to the ground, to Earth, and just It makes people really sick.
01:08:10.000 It slowly kills them.
01:08:12.000 Well, that's because the government loves us.
01:08:14.000 Yeah.
01:08:15.000 Yeah, we find out that the government is trying to kill us like that.
01:08:19.000 And most of the people that bring it live in Washington, so it rains a lot and washes it away.
01:08:29.000 Absolutely.
01:08:29.000 Listen, it's good to have you listening.
01:08:31.000 How long have you been dialed in?
01:08:32.000 How long since you saw the Bohemian Grove video?
01:08:38.000 Two years or something like that?
01:08:41.000 Well, remember this, Elijah.
01:08:42.000 Stay out of trouble.
01:08:43.000 That's how you beat the New World Order.
01:08:45.000 Don't get in fights.
01:08:46.000 Be clean cut.
01:08:46.000 Never use the government's drugs.
01:08:49.000 Make good grades.
01:08:50.000 Keep your head down.
01:08:51.000 And have a great family and live.
01:08:53.000 The best revenge is living well.
01:08:55.000 And you got a great dad.
01:08:56.000 God bless you.
01:08:58.000 Take care.
01:08:58.000 Look, there's no debating the fluoride they put in there to brain damage and reduce our IQ.
01:09:04.000 There's no doubt.
01:09:07.000 There's no doubt about that.
01:09:09.000 That's public.
01:09:10.000 That's admitted now.
01:09:12.000 That's your government.
01:09:13.000 That's who runs your life.
01:09:14.000 They're real nice people, let me tell you.
01:09:16.000 Do we have Mike Rivera?
01:09:18.000 Alright!
01:09:19.000 Mike Rivera of whatreallyhappened.com joins us once a month.
01:09:23.000 Hopefully he can stay a little bit with us into the next hour.
01:09:24.000 We've got him on late this hour because I went to your calls late.
01:09:28.000 And popping in with him will be a quick report with We Are Change Colorado confronting Bill Clinton.
01:09:35.000 Mike Rivera, great to have you on, my friend.
01:09:37.000 Well, thank you.
01:09:38.000 It's great to be back here again.
01:09:40.000 How is the production going on my wife's favorite television program?
01:09:44.000 You've actually got my wife back watching television greedily when the new Lost shows come on.
01:09:52.000 She's there in front of the television now.
01:09:55.000 Oh, well, we're going to have to send her a crew t-shirt, I guess, just to keep her loyal.
01:09:59.000 The answer to your question here, we are not yet back in production.
01:10:03.000 We are still, of course, shut down by the writer's strike.
01:10:06.000 There are eight episodes of season four already in the can and ready to broadcast.
01:10:12.000 But if the writer's strike is not resolved in the next couple of weeks, it is very unlikely episode nine would be ready on time to air.
01:10:22.000 And of course, if the writer's strike really continues for a very long time, Then either the balance of Season 4 will be combined with Season 5, or it'll just be cancelled outright.
01:10:31.000 You know, I never thought to talk to you, because you've been involved in some big movie productions, a lot of big TV productions.
01:10:36.000 We're not going to get into exactly what you do there, unless you want to, Mike, because you've always tried to keep that quiet.
01:10:41.000 I brought it up here.
01:10:43.000 But this writer's strike is important to the economy.
01:10:45.000 We know they've been cheating the writers, at least that's my opinion, from the percentages of the money they make compared to what the stockholders make.
01:10:54.000 Where do you see this going?
01:10:56.000 I mean, this is just ongoing.
01:11:00.000 Well, it is.
01:11:01.000 It's a terrible problem.
01:11:02.000 And unfortunately, part of what's fueling the current strike is there's still a lot of bad feelings left over from the very prolonged strike back in 1988.
01:11:10.000 And of course, we're looking at a potential SAG strike in the summer.
01:11:13.000 So overall, it's a very, very bad year for the industry.
01:11:16.000 The real irony is... Oh, a Screen Actors Guild on top of it.
01:11:19.000 Yeah, now the Directors Guild has signed their new contract, so the directors are not going to go on strike, but the actors are still making noises like they might.
01:11:26.000 The real irony is, the strike was over a couple of percentage points residuals on what are called secondary showings, which is DVD sales, internet airing, and so forth and so on.
01:11:37.000 The writers are saying because a lot of people don't see the original broadcast on TV, for them the DVD or the internet showing is a first Screening and therefore should be paid appropriate residuals, and I understand their particular point of view But the irony is that TV has lost an estimated 25% of its audience during the strike And a lot of experts are saying, now that these people are out of the habit of watching TV, they may not be coming back.
01:12:03.000 There was the habitual training of the ritual of watching television, and now that 25% of, and they'd already lost a lot of their viewers over the last decade, as you know, Mike, now they may not be coming back to TV.
01:12:18.000 No, they aren't.
01:12:18.000 They've discovered the internet, they've realized that those small people are actually their own children there in the living room, and they're starting to interact with them again.
01:12:25.000 And so in the long run, even if the writers get this additional residual percentage point, they're probably going to be losing out in the long term, because the 2% gain versus the 25% loss, you know, that's, residuals are based on total number of viewers and buyers and so forth, and they may have actually done more harm to themselves than good with this.
01:12:47.000 But I'm not going to cry for Sumner Redstone and others.
01:12:50.000 No.
01:12:52.000 You know, I think one of the reasons that people have not sympathized with the writers too much is they see them driving up to the ticket lines in BMWs and Mercedes.
01:13:01.000 And, you know, very often the writers are also serving other functions within a show.
01:13:05.000 For example, on the show that I work on, some of our writers are also the producers.
01:13:11.000 So they wear two hats and, you know, it gets kind of schizophrenic at times.
01:13:17.000 But we're hoping that, you know, they're talking about the potential of reaching a settlement sometime next week.
01:13:22.000 If they do, we're going to have to hit the gas pedal really hard to get Episode 9 ready to go to air.
01:13:28.000 Now, again, we're not covering this because of entertainment and television, and my wife doesn't watch hardly any TV, but she does like Lost, and she's going to get mad at me.
01:13:37.000 What's your t-shirt size?
01:13:39.000 Small.
01:13:40.000 All right.
01:13:41.000 As soon as the production starts back up, we'll get her a crew shirt and small.
01:13:44.000 That's awesome.
01:13:45.000 But no, she really does like the show.
01:13:48.000 I haven't yet seen it, but supposedly it's pretty captivating.
01:13:51.000 But this is important from an economic view.
01:13:53.000 Speaking of Hollywood TV production, Mike, you've been in for decades.
01:13:59.000 I was kind of wondering in the last hour why there's all these now on 24, the governments behind the terror attacks, Jericho, the governments behind the nuke attacks to bring in martial law.
01:14:10.000 A bunch of these shows have now shifted into this in just the last few years.
01:14:13.000 Is that the writers trying to give the people what they want because the public already knows?
01:14:18.000 Or is that the New World Order throwing it in our face, as we know they've done in the past?
01:14:24.000 Or is that a mix of all of this?
01:14:28.000 I think it is mostly not so much the writers but the producers of the show who realize that this is now the common awareness in the audience and that if they don't go with that they risk losing audience.
01:14:41.000 They looked at how shows like Boston Legal where they take some of these issues head-on and their ratings go up and the audience is going to watch the shows which reinforce their own current opinion about what's going on and the producers who are in this really to make more money than anything else They follow that trend, and they're going along with that, and they're doing these shows about the governance behind these deceptions, because they realize that is now what the majority of the audience...
01:15:06.000 is believing.
01:15:07.000 And because they're not news shows, they're not subject to quite as much pressure by, you know, covert government agencies to spin things a certain way.
01:15:16.000 Well, that's right.
01:15:17.000 In fact, I gave three reasons earlier.
01:15:19.000 I just went over two of them.
01:15:19.000 I said either they know that that's what the people demand.
01:15:22.000 Well, actually, I just said that and that's what they want.
01:15:25.000 Or they're trying to tell us the truth.
01:15:27.000 It's just that I've met not a lot, maybe 15 big writers over the last few years and some of the biggest writers.
01:15:34.000 And they are totally anti-New World Order.
01:15:38.000 And I know for at least six years that 9-11 truth and awareness of the New World Order has just been mushrooming throughout the entertainment industry.
01:15:45.000 And I mean, these people are not putting on acts.
01:15:48.000 They know what's going on now, and I think that feeds into it, too, Mike.
01:15:53.000 Oh, definitely.
01:15:53.000 I have quite a few of the show's writers that I work on who know about me and my website, Uh, and they're fans, but you know, they're, they're understandably cautious.
01:16:01.000 You need to understand something about people who work in Hollywood.
01:16:04.000 They're really very aware of what's going on, but they've spent their entire lives to build their careers and they don't want to risk it because they see what happens to people who really get a little too far out of line.
01:16:14.000 And again, the example I point back to because it's historically safe is what happened to actress Jean Seberg back in the sixties when the FBI decided it was time to destroy her career.
01:16:23.000 And we have seen even during the Clinton administration, some actor or celebrity would come out and say, I think the government is doing wrong.
01:16:31.000 And then 24 hours later, oh no, I didn't really mean that.
01:16:33.000 I think they're doing a wonderful job.
01:16:35.000 And you realize phone calls were made and somebody said, look, if you want to continue working in Hollywood, you have to tow the official government line.
01:16:42.000 It's my secret.
01:16:43.000 Yeah.
01:16:44.000 No secret.
01:16:44.000 Go ahead.
01:16:45.000 It's no secret the government has exerted tremendous covert influence over film and TV ever since the days that J Edgar Hoover got Charlie Chaplin kicked out of the country for refusing to stop poking fun at authorities in his movies.
01:17:00.000 But I do see the fact that in news, especially, and forcing the mainstream media to start tackling at least some important issues, or giving alternative issues more time, because those are the dominant issues, and I am seeing more of that now in entertainment, the establishment is certainly in crisis.
01:17:18.000 Oh, there's no question that it is.
01:17:19.000 And, you know, something that TV show producers are looking at, they're looking at the viewership of the news, and they're realizing if they take the same spin that the news programs do, they're going to lose their audience as well.
01:17:29.000 And they're all about numbers and audience and making money, and they're going to go where the majority of the audience headspace is, and that's what's happening.
01:17:36.000 And that's what I see.
01:17:37.000 I see that the Patriot Truth Movement, Liberty Movement, Alternative Reality Movement, I see that we are beginning to take over the main paradigm, and the establishment knows that, and they're panicking, Mike.
01:17:51.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:17:52.000 And, you know, I mean, we're seeing all these polls about the majority of Americans do not believe the official story on 9-11.
01:17:59.000 We're seeing the government still continue to try to spin the story, to counter it, this new one about trying to blame Saddam for making us think he had weapons of mass destruction, when he was all over the news in the weeks leading up to the Iraq invasion, saying, I don't have weapons of mass destruction.
01:18:16.000 And the inspectors were saying it, Saddam was saying it, now they're trying to say, oh, he made us think that he had the bombs and that's why we invaded.
01:18:23.000 And it's like the government's motto seems to be, if at first you don't succeed, lie, lie again.
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01:23:01.000 You know, I've seen a couple of the trailers for the TV show Jericho, and they imply that the government stages the terror attack there, and then listeners on my MySpace sent me a link to the CBS previous link about previous episodes, and yes, it says the government brings together anarchists, domestic militia, and religious extremists To stage nuke attacks with a faction of the government to bring in a new dictatorship.
01:23:30.000 See, you didn't say that in that little video piece I played on the three-minute TV ad for Jericho on CBS.
01:23:37.000 But I said, I bet it's right-wing Christians working with terrorists that are in the government.
01:23:45.000 See, they know the people now know it's the government, but they're going to go back to the old ADL propaganda that it's the right-wingers.
01:23:53.000 It isn't about ideology at the top.
01:23:54.000 It's about power.
01:23:56.000 And so there's spin within spin.
01:23:58.000 I mean, I just know how they operate.
01:24:00.000 So see, that's not an example of the media being good.
01:24:03.000 That's the writers knowing they have to go with the flow that we know it's a terror attack, but trying to spin it back on to the people.
01:24:10.000 Mike Rivero, your take.
01:24:12.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:24:13.000 There's a spin within the spin, and it's called fallback position, which means, OK, they know 9-11 was a fake.
01:24:20.000 Let's find somebody to pin it on to save our own re-rent.
01:24:22.000 It's like what we're seeing with this idea that Saddam is somehow to blame for us thinking that he had weapons of mass destruction.
01:24:28.000 That's the fallback position.
01:24:30.000 And again, it isn't the writers who set the tone, because the writers basically come in and they're handed a story assignment on a TV series.
01:24:39.000 Normally, the producers will work out the overall story plot for the entire season ahead of time.
01:24:45.000 The writers come in and they're handed, this is your chunk for this episode, this is what you will write.
01:24:49.000 And the writers will fill it in.
01:24:50.000 But the executive producers generally set the tone and content.
01:24:54.000 Yeah, you're right.
01:24:54.000 I mean, the writers I know are pretty high level, so they're producer-writers.
01:24:58.000 Yeah.
01:24:59.000 You know, the fellow who did... Exactly, the guy that did Enemy of the State and the rest of it.
01:25:04.000 Willie Nelson, have you had a chance to hear the interview we did yesterday, Mike?
01:25:07.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:25:08.000 And of course, Willie Nelson, I just have so much admiration for him.
01:25:11.000 He's got a lot of courage.
01:25:12.000 You know, he got really pounded on by the government years ago over the tax situation, so I'm not...
01:25:18.000 I'm surprised that he has sort of had his epiphany and realized that the government is not a friend of the people.
01:25:24.000 And I noticed that the Drudge Report, for like five minutes I think, reported on your interview where Willie Nelson said that the World Trade Center was imploded, or World Trade Center 7 was imploded, and then Drudge pulled it real quick.
01:25:39.000 So I think he got his little phone call later in the day.
01:25:42.000 And I'm looking right now at your website where Willie Nelson is concerned, as are many Americans, That Bush could use a national emergency to basically say, okay, the elections are suspended.
01:25:54.000 They're all rigged anyway, so we can't trust them.
01:25:56.000 So I'm going to stay in power for another 10 years.
01:26:01.000 And I'm pointing out here that if we don't expose the government-sponsored terror, corporate-sponsored terror, false flag, blame it on somebody else event, they're going to keep doing it.
01:26:11.000 This is life and death.
01:26:12.000 And Mike, I appreciate you linking for the Willie Nelson stories.
01:26:15.000 A lot of the other Patriot sites think they're in competition with me.
01:26:18.000 This is life and death.
01:26:20.000 And I mean, this is a big interview.
01:26:21.000 I just want to get it out and I'm asking everybody, help us break through the mainstream media blockade.
01:26:27.000 Help this break out into the open.
01:26:29.000 Mike, how important is it or do you think it's important that everybody really get out there and email it and call talk shows and call the media and call the local AP office here in Austin.
01:26:38.000 Call the AP office in Nashville.
01:26:40.000 Those are the type that would do a story.
01:26:41.000 Get it out on the wire.
01:26:42.000 How important is that?
01:26:44.000 It's always important for everybody who is listening to your show, or who is reading my website, to take that information and spread it as far and wide as they can for two reasons.
01:26:55.000 One, as we get the information out, and clearly in this regard we are winning, if you look at the poll numbers about people who doubt the official story of 9-11, the more we get the information out, the more Americans are being given the information they need to have to decide what they're going to be doing in the future.
01:27:11.000 But more importantly, If you speak out, you give courage to everybody around you to also speak out.
01:27:18.000 One of the hoaxes the government likes to perpetrate is to cast anybody who's dissenting or who's doubting the official story as a crazed, lone nut, social outcast that you really shouldn't be seen associating with.
01:27:30.000 And so you wind up with like a room full of people, and all of them have serious questions about what's going on, but they think they're the only one in the room.
01:27:37.000 So when one person speaks out, all of a sudden everybody says, you too?
01:27:42.000 I feel the same way myself.
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01:27:45.000 And then that talking begins to grow and spread where everybody finally begins to realize that doubting the government is now the majority opinion.
01:27:53.000 Not trusting the government is now the majority opinion.
01:27:57.000 I mean, Mike, you're right, but to break through the final illusion that the controlled corporate press has that we're all the minority, everybody's got to speak out in the street, at work, at church.
01:28:08.000 I mean, the government is not recruiting 26,000 preachers to tell their flocks to hand in their guns and submit to martial law.
01:28:14.000 I mean, that's admitted for nothing.
01:28:16.000 They're planning something big, Mike.
01:28:18.000 They absolutely are.
01:28:20.000 Let's talk about it when we get back, and also I want to, you can co-interview with me if you'd like, I want to keep you into the next hour or two.
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01:34:35.000 We're about to go to Colorado We Are Change.
01:34:37.000 Mike Rivero is taking out a lot of time from his important news website, WhatReallyHappened.com, and of course, being one of the top guys helping make the TV show Lost.
01:34:49.000 A lot more out in Hawaii, but we've got a big link up at the top of InfoWars.com to Colorado.
01:34:56.000 We Are Change is fabulous, folks.
01:34:58.000 Let me play you the audio from the video shot by our guest, Jonathan Ellenhoff.
01:35:07.000 I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
01:35:09.000 And this is Adam Miller.
01:35:13.000 I mean, we're talking 15 feet from Clinton, yelling up there about 9-11, inside job, new investigation, North American Union, and Clinton tries to ridicule him in mass Soviet-style psychology.
01:35:25.000 People come over and start putting their hands on him, pushing him.
01:35:27.000 Clinton says no, because he didn't want to make him a martyr.
01:35:29.000 He wanted to humiliate him.
01:35:31.000 It still backfired, Clinton.
01:35:32.000 The whole country saw you denying 9-11 is an inside job, and everybody knows you're a stinking criminal liar!
01:35:39.000 So here is a few minutes of the audio from the video.
01:35:43.000 Thank you.
01:36:46.000 Alright, the video is a lot more powerful than the audio, and it's up on Colorado We Are Change, it's up on InfoWars.com.
01:37:01.000 Going to Jonathan, and as an Elinof, Jonathan, I apologize, I should have asked you how to pronounce your fine name earlier.
01:37:09.000 Okay, good.
01:37:10.000 I got it right.
01:37:10.000 You know, I'm a country bumpkin from Texas.
01:37:12.000 I can't pronounce my own name properly at the time.
01:37:14.000 Mike Rivera's right there with us, popping anytime, Mike.
01:37:18.000 I just want to say the courage.
01:37:20.000 You guys all took in front of Mitt Romney, swarming him.
01:37:22.000 There's video of that.
01:37:24.000 You're getting news attention each time.
01:37:26.000 I just want to say, fabulous job.
01:37:29.000 What is it like to a formed Colorado?
01:37:32.000 We are changed.
01:37:33.000 How old is the group?
01:37:34.000 And what is it like to be having such a huge effect in the trenches?
01:37:38.000 We've been around.
01:37:39.000 There are about six or seven of us that started it here in Colorado about a half a year ago.
01:37:47.000 And everyone I know in this We Are Change Colorado group is probably the most courageous and dedicated person.
01:37:54.000 We all, you know, we all got into this different paths.
01:37:57.000 I've been in 9-11 Troops since, you know, 2002, 2003.
01:38:01.000 As a filmmaker, starting out as a journalist, which, of course, I probably can never start a career into this.
01:38:09.000 So, because I have no career to blacklist, I have no problem starting it out this way.
01:38:13.000 But everyone I've met out here, we're all extremely dedicated.
01:38:17.000 I mean, I'm not stopping.
01:38:19.000 I know my friend Rob, Adam, Josh, Jason, Micah, all of us, we're not stopping until somebody goes to jail.
01:38:26.000 Or else we're going to jail.
01:38:29.000 Somebody's going to have to either confront us or move out of the way, because we're not stopping.
01:38:34.000 Let me add a point here, and then I want to get Mike Rivera's take on it, and then let you continue with the fine things that I totally concur with.
01:38:41.000 Jonathan Ellenhoff from Colorado, we are changed.
01:38:45.000 Six months in action, and it's having a huge effect each week, getting national attention continually to the issues.
01:38:53.000 This is key, as Mike was saying about 20 minutes ago, just like in Ceausescu's Romania, where people finally started standing up, finally started...
01:39:02.000 Speaking out, and then that caused the whole facade to crumble.
01:39:06.000 I've had Nightline call me.
01:39:08.000 They're freaking out over this.
01:39:10.000 You can tell they're scared.
01:39:11.000 The establishment is scared because they know that other groups, not just We Are Change or InfoWars groups or Truth groups, but other groups, people are getting in the streets, they're going to events, and they're disrupting the dog and pony theater for the establishment.
01:39:26.000 Mike, they're getting scared.
01:39:28.000 Yeah, absolutely they are afraid because You know, it's not like the American people have to actually prove anything.
01:39:36.000 The real danger is that we're just going to stop listening to the government.
01:39:39.000 We're not going to see the government as legitimate or legal anymore, and we're just going to stop paying attention.
01:39:45.000 We're going to stop paying taxes.
01:39:46.000 We're just not going to go along with what the government wants us to go along with.
01:39:50.000 And so it is a crisis of credibility.
01:39:52.000 It is of their own making.
01:39:54.000 And again, this gets back to that whole thesis that the people in charge of all of these covert operations and everything are still playing the game by the rules that work back at the height of the Cold War in the 50s and the 60s.
01:40:06.000 And they just don't understand how the flow of information through our society has drastically, fundamentally changed.
01:40:13.000 And they don't get it.
01:40:14.000 They don't understand that the way that it used to work can't work anymore.
01:40:18.000 They're just going to keep trying and trying and trying.
01:40:20.000 And they have to compartmentalize their minions, to where their minions think they're doing good work, and their own minions are finding out, and they're back-engineering it and finding out that they're really engaged in evil.
01:40:32.000 So they're having a crisis of credibility and conscience within their own system.
01:40:37.000 So I hope that everybody realizes the historical effect Literally standing up against this evil.
01:40:43.000 Jonathan, your take on what Mike and I were just saying?
01:40:46.000 Um, you know, I just came across, somebody came to one of our WEIRD Change meetings the other day, somebody mentioned NASARA.
01:40:51.000 N-E-S-A-R-A.
01:40:52.000 Are you familiar with that?
01:40:53.000 Yeah, the National Stabilization Act.
01:40:56.000 It's not real.
01:40:57.000 Okay, yeah.
01:40:58.000 And, well, the idea that they were putting forth, out here in Colorado, we know a ton of people.
01:41:04.000 We're all very aware of the income tax fraud.
01:41:07.000 We all, America Freedom of the Press.
01:41:09.000 Fascism has been played on local access TV.
01:41:11.000 We've had it played there.
01:41:13.000 You know, we're ready for this exposure, and we're waking up the people every day.
01:41:20.000 However this happens, eventually we're going to get large enough, at least here in Colorado, and I don't know how it is elsewhere, that, yeah, you're going to be able to go somewhere, and pretty much everyone's on the same page.
01:41:31.000 Nobody's either paying their income tax.
01:41:35.000 Everyone wants a new investigation.
01:41:36.000 You've got people confronting politicians.
01:41:39.000 You know, out here in Colorado, it's very, very... It's all over the streets.
01:41:45.000 Everyone knows about it here.
01:41:47.000 And here's the key.
01:41:49.000 They're not going to be able to put a Hillary in and change horses in the middle of it and make us think that everything's okay because they put some new puppet in for the first time in modern U.S.
01:41:59.000 history since the last realignment 110, 115 years ago.
01:42:04.000 During this political realignment, both parties are being criticized, and Congress has an 11% approval rating.
01:42:10.000 Mike, I think we've broken their back.
01:42:12.000 Now, they're still a dangerous leviathan.
01:42:14.000 They can set off nukes, anything.
01:42:16.000 Do you think they're just going to do something really desperate, or are they going to realize that they have been destruto?
01:42:24.000 You know, we've got so many people within the government who are realizing that things have really run their course, and those people left to themselves.
01:42:33.000 Basically, they're just going to run the government out until it collapses, like the Soviet Union.
01:42:36.000 There are, of course, certain fanatics in the government who are still convinced that God is on their side, and if they set off a big enough scary monster, a nuclear explosion or biological attack, that the American people will magically line up behind them one more time for a march into the New World Order.
01:42:52.000 And, of course, these are very dangerous people, because they're not really listening and paying attention to what's going on out on the streets.
01:42:59.000 Now, I'd like to change direction here a little bit and address our other guests.
01:43:05.000 We are Change Colorado because the individual who came in spouting Nassara, you need to remember, and this goes all the way back to COINTELPRO in the 60s.
01:43:14.000 If you haven't studied the history of COINTELPRO, you need to.
01:43:17.000 As a group becomes visible and in the media, you will be subject to infiltration by people whose job it is to trick you into doing something that makes you look bad in the press.
01:43:29.000 And you need to be on the lookout for that, because you'll get people who come in and say, hey, we need to attract more attention and we can do it by splattering paint on a public building.
01:43:40.000 We need to throw firecrackers at a building.
01:43:42.000 We need to say that no planes hit the towers and that it was holograms and laser beams fired from the galactic snoople snap.
01:43:51.000 And these people are all government plants.
01:43:54.000 And there's nothing new.
01:43:55.000 I mean, every college campus has got FBI informants whose job it is.
01:43:59.000 Listen, I've been at events and I've had no planers walk up and go, we're going to get you, Jones.
01:44:05.000 I mean, they're feds right out in the open when you don't have a camera.
01:44:10.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:44:11.000 And so you need to be very careful because obviously you're having an impact I agree with confronting politicians and media people publicly, but do it politely.
01:44:20.000 Don't ever let yourself be seen as... Well, you gotta scream to have it heard, but let me just add a caveat here, and that's this.
01:44:27.000 There are too many groups forming, too many popping up.
01:44:29.000 That's another problem for where their infiltrators and operatives aren't having enough success.
01:44:34.000 But I do think once your We Are Change group gets up to about 20, you should call it, you know, We Are Change Southern Colorado, We Are Change Eastern, you know, whatever.
01:44:43.000 That's the cell format, but you're not hiding out as gorillas in cells.
01:44:49.000 Jonathan, Elenov, are you aware of the cell structure?
01:44:53.000 Yes, we have a We Are Change Grand Junction and We Are Change Colorado Springs that's starting up right now, but I was going to say, you know, that's why, I don't know if you saw the Mitt Romney confrontation, that's me in the video there talking to Mitt Romney.
01:45:07.000 You know, we were able to get right in there and we had a formulated crowd around us that was Completely aware of what was going on, Romney made a fool of himself.
01:45:18.000 He completely ignored our questions.
01:45:19.000 And people hung around and went up to us and said, hey, you completely ignored your question there.
01:45:22.000 And we said, yes, we know.
01:45:24.000 We didn't get upset.
01:45:25.000 You know, there was no foul language.
01:45:27.000 There was no anger.
01:45:28.000 We wanted to expose Romney and local congressman Bob Beaupre for being essentially people who either are unfamiliar with this information or not interested in it or trying to ignore it.
01:45:40.000 And that achieves a lot.
01:45:42.000 Locally, here in Colorado, the Romney confrontation was a great success.
01:45:46.000 Clinton got a great success, but the thing is, with Clinton, we weren't able to get close enough up to him, so the only thing we could have done is heckle.
01:45:54.000 Luckily, we were large enough in the crowd to basically spread ourselves out and yell at different times, and if you watch the video, it goes on for about six minutes.
01:46:02.000 Clinton eventually addresses the issue, and people in the crowd came up to us afterwards and said he completely She spun the issue.
01:46:09.000 You said you wanted a new investigation, and he said you're one of those inside job guys.
01:46:13.000 Well, nobody said anything about a conspiracy or inside job.
01:46:17.000 They said we want a new investigation.
01:46:18.000 And by the way, I want to get Mike and your take on this, Jonathan.
01:46:21.000 It just came out yesterday.
01:46:22.000 Now, it's a spin job.
01:46:24.000 New York Times writer talking about, you know, the 9-11 Commission Uncensored book comes out today.
01:46:29.000 And the AP reports that, oh, Philip Zelikow, he was working for the White House before, That was no secret.
01:46:36.000 We didn't need the New York Times to tell us that.
01:46:38.000 We've been reporting this for five years since they started setting up that commission.
01:46:43.000 He was there to whitewash.
01:46:44.000 The Bush appointed the commission.
01:46:46.000 But they're trying to make it look like the commission was legitimate and is now exposing the head staffer Yeah, absolutely.
01:46:54.000 Everybody in the Commission had a conflict of interest with the administration.
01:46:56.000 They were all insiders.
01:46:57.000 There were no really independent people.
01:46:59.000 said, okay, it's true, there was something rotten in the state of Denmark in the commission, but the commission was good, it was Bush's bad guy in there trying to stop the independent investigation.
01:47:09.000 It was not independent, Mike.
01:47:10.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:47:12.000 Everybody in the commission had a conflict of interest with the administration.
01:47:15.000 They were all insiders.
01:47:17.000 There were no really independent people.
01:47:18.000 And you need to remember that the commission was set up specifically to look at intelligence failures that allowed the attack.
01:47:25.000 They were never allowed to look at the attack itself and re-examine the primary assumptions.
01:47:31.000 And to propose national ID cards and police state as, quote, the solution, exactly what the new world order wanted.
01:47:37.000 I want to go ahead, before we go to break here, I want to commend We Are Change Colorado.
01:47:41.000 I want to tell you, I salute you, I love your energy, your focus, your bold, champions of liberty.
01:47:47.000 Let's bring up the man Adam Miller, who like a bull, stood in the face of that wicked devil Bill Clinton and continued to shout at him.
01:47:57.000 Good job, Adam Miller.
01:47:59.000 Thank you for coming on with us.
01:48:01.000 Alex, thank you for having me.
01:48:02.000 Well, I salute you.
01:48:03.000 I salute Jonathan and everybody else.
01:48:05.000 What was it like?
01:48:06.000 I mean, I've been there in a crowd.
01:48:07.000 I've been arrested before for asking questions of George Bush.
01:48:11.000 I mean, you know, the energy.
01:48:13.000 Did you have butterflies until you opened your mouth?
01:48:15.000 And then did you just feel the power of humanity fill you once you took that step?
01:48:20.000 I gotta admit, I did have a little bit of butterfly action going on there in my gut.
01:48:25.000 It is a lot like that.
01:48:26.000 It's just, you know what?
01:48:27.000 These people are public servants.
01:48:29.000 I reminded myself of that.
01:48:30.000 These people are public servants.
01:48:32.000 They're here to serve us.
01:48:32.000 There's no reason why we should feel intimidated by them.
01:48:35.000 And furthermore, there's no reason I shouldn't address these tough questions.
01:48:39.000 I'm sick of them dodging the issues.
01:48:40.000 But you released the dogs of truth.
01:48:42.000 Fly Havoc, let loose the dogs of truth.
01:48:45.000 I mean, that's my experience.
01:48:47.000 It's empowering.
01:48:48.000 What was it like once you started shouting, though?
01:48:51.000 Did all the butterflies go away and you just felt energized?
01:48:55.000 It was a certain amount of righteous indignation, yeah.
01:49:00.000 I mean, really, it was just... Because you don't see people challenging our elected officials and our previously elected officials in that manner, so... Yeah, it felt good to get that off my chest.
01:49:10.000 What happened after we see the, you know, the tape turn off, the short clip?
01:49:13.000 What happened after you confronted his lordship?
01:49:17.000 Um, there was a lot of talk of me being dragged off by security.
01:49:20.000 That, in fact, was not true.
01:49:22.000 I believe that, uh...
01:49:23.000 Bill Clinton is one of the more shrewd and intelligent and cunning leaders we've ever had in power.
01:49:29.000 Yeah, he tried to belittle you and then not make you a martyr.
01:49:34.000 I think he knows that we are a peaceful movement.
01:49:36.000 I think he's done a little bit of homework probably on us.
01:49:39.000 And I think he knows that there's nothing to fear as far as threats of violence.
01:49:43.000 Yeah, he's one of the greatest CIA propaganda officers out there we've ever seen.
01:49:50.000 We'll be right back.
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01:53:03.000 WeAreChangeColorado.org.
01:53:06.000 WeAreChangeColorado.org.
01:53:09.000 For listeners we have out in Colorado, be sure and join them.
01:53:14.000 Start your own We Are Change group or 9-11 Truth Group, InfoWars group, InfoWars news gathering organization.
01:53:20.000 Whatever organization you want to start, start it.
01:53:23.000 Call it whatever you like.
01:53:26.000 As you like it, as Shakespeare said, just get out there and take action.
01:53:31.000 We're going to have Rivero stand over with us.
01:53:32.000 I want to get into the communications lines being cut.
01:53:36.000 Going into areas of the Middle East and Central Asia.
01:53:38.000 A lot of other subjects with him for another 20 minutes to the next hour.
01:53:41.000 We've got We Are Change Colorado on with us right now.
01:53:46.000 Gentlemen, just in closing, again, I salute you.
01:53:48.000 I want to thank you for all you've done.
01:53:50.000 Any other points that you would like to add?
01:53:53.000 I think that you made the best point there, Alex, is that we need to get out and get active.
01:54:00.000 Go join your own group.
01:54:01.000 Start your own group up.
01:54:03.000 Get out there and make something happen and understand that it's fun.
01:54:08.000 Sander Hicks, in an interview that we made of him when he was out in the Denver area, made this point extremely well in one of the videos that we have documented.
01:54:16.000 It is fun.
01:54:18.000 Don't look at it as a task.
01:54:19.000 Enjoy yourself.
01:54:22.000 And also, you know, we're switching a lot of the, you know, I talked to Luke Grodowski and we're switching a lot of the confrontations to Local representatives, local news media anchors, anything like that, you know, we really got to get out there and talk to the people who represent you in your county, in your state, in your city.
01:54:42.000 Meet those people.
01:54:43.000 Tell them to their face.
01:54:44.000 Say, listen, this is me.
01:54:45.000 I'm not some crazy fringe, you know, what you're calling me.
01:54:48.000 I know what I'm talking about.
01:54:49.000 If you want to debate it, let's do it.
01:54:51.000 Otherwise, move out of the way, because I'm going to put somebody in there who does.
01:54:54.000 Well, I like how you're getting on AXSChat.
01:54:56.000 I like everything on AXS TV, using whatever venues you have, but I would also continue to go after the big fish, too.
01:55:02.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:55:03.000 Absolutely.
01:55:05.000 They are our representatives.
01:55:07.000 Now, was everyone hissing at you because you were talking bad about the great Bill Clinton, or were some people waking up?
01:55:14.000 A lot of people were hissing, but it was amazing how many of them were not.
01:55:18.000 It really was.
01:55:19.000 I mean, it seemed to a certain extent like the audacity.
01:55:22.000 It was almost like they were in awe, like, wow, someone's challenging our God, Bill Clinton.
01:55:28.000 Yeah, there were people, we were, I was about 15, 20 feet from the stage, and when Adam, when you walked off, and you got like, you know, you went up to the bleachers, We were down in the immediate area where people were coming up to us with cameras.
01:55:44.000 They knew we were a group, eventually.
01:55:46.000 And security was there.
01:55:47.000 You could tell because they had the earpieces in.
01:55:50.000 And they were talking to us.
01:55:51.000 And while Bill was talking, we were holding our own conversations about 9-11, a new investigation.
01:55:56.000 We were handing out packets.
01:55:58.000 You know, I just wanted to plug real quick.
01:56:00.000 We have Loose Change coming out to Colorado, the three Loose Change producers.
01:56:04.000 It's February 24th, the Gothic Theater.
01:56:07.000 We put a lot of money into it.
01:56:08.000 We have advertisements and everything.
01:56:11.000 And we got a great opportunity to get Colorado really up to par.
01:56:15.000 I plan to do this on a regular basis.
01:56:18.000 By the way, that's the final cut that went on selling bulk orders on InfoWars.com earlier this week.
01:56:25.000 I'm executive producer on that.
01:56:27.000 Well, absolutely, people should go to WeAreChangeColorado.org and go to that event.
01:56:32.000 Gentlemen, I just want to thank you both for joining us and give Mike Rivera the floor here in the last minute or two for any other points or questions he's got for you.
01:56:41.000 Well, the only comment I have, and again I join Alex Jones in applauding what you're doing, you're being visible, you're getting the word out there, you are reminding people that they are not alone in their doubts about the official story of 9-11 or the war or taxes or anything else.
01:56:57.000 And again, my only advice is be careful that you're not being infiltrated and lured into doing something that makes you look bad because the government plays dirty and has a long history of doing that.
01:57:09.000 But you can spot them.
01:57:10.000 I mean, anybody who wants to do anything violent, anybody who wants to do anything illegal, anybody who wants to give you drugs, anybody who wants to... We really need to talk about no planes and space beams.
01:57:20.000 Just automatic fed.
01:57:22.000 It's a federal informant, a drug addict.
01:57:24.000 They have the worst scum working for them.
01:57:27.000 They're either drug addicts or child molesters.
01:57:28.000 They have working for them.
01:57:30.000 Men, I salute you at Colorado.
01:57:32.000 We are changed.
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01:57:56.000 Well, so does he.
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01:58:02.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:58:07.000 We got some highlights of the Willie Nelson interview coming up at the bottom of the hour.
01:58:11.000 We got Mike Rivera with us for another 15-20 minutes or so.
01:58:15.000 I got a bunch of immigration, Lou Dobbs news, the ADL saying he's a hate criminal now.
01:58:21.000 Oh man, they get our free speech, it's over.
01:58:25.000 But I want to keep Mike on because I want to talk about some geopolitical war issue, Ron Paul issue.
01:58:29.000 And first off, four internet undersea cables cut in a space of three days.
01:58:36.000 Uh, that is just astronomical.
01:58:38.000 Then people keep saying, well, there's still internet up.
01:58:40.000 It hasn't totally cut Iran and a few other countries like Egypt off, but they've got servers mirrored on DNS and CDNs, content distribution networks.
01:58:52.000 We have this, by the way, because we've been attacked and things have happened outside the country, and I went and did an analysis of it, but Mike knows a lot more than I do about these type systems.
01:59:03.000 I know I've got great IT people who basically told me this, but what's your take on the cables?
01:59:10.000 Okay, well, first of all, as of yesterday, and again, there's so much information flowing around, nobody can really be sure.
01:59:16.000 But an article that appeared in the press in the United Arab Emirates is claiming that the total of cables cut is now five.
01:59:23.000 That's impossible!
01:59:25.000 That's astronomical if it's five now.
01:59:28.000 Yeah, it absolutely is.
01:59:29.000 And, you know, if you look at the way the cables are constructed, they are really very, very durable.
01:59:35.000 It's not just a bunch of optical fibers wrapped up in black electrician's tape.
01:59:39.000 And what is really interesting, and the reason so many people are suspicious about this, is that when the first two cables were cut, Off of Egypt in the Mediterranean.
01:59:47.000 The first thing that was hitting the press was, oh, well, they were probably cut by ships that dragged their anchors.
01:59:53.000 And for anybody who's done any sailing or spent any time on ships, you understand that ships don't drag their anchors.
01:59:58.000 It's not something that they like to do.
02:00:02.000 They also mark the cables in less than 100 feet of water.
02:00:06.000 And these cables are in different armored jackets in deep water.
02:00:10.000 And the two first cables got cut simultaneously 250 miles apart.
02:00:15.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:00:16.000 And plus, of course, the location of the cables are on the nautical charts.
02:00:19.000 They're maritime exclusion zones where ships don't go in.
02:00:23.000 And Egypt has video cameras that watch those cable access, the stretch of ocean where the cables are coming shallow, and confirmed there were no ships in the area when those cables were cut.
02:00:35.000 So whatever happened, happened entirely under the surface of the Mediterranean Sea.
02:00:39.000 So that was the first indication that something's going on where we're being fed a ludicrous story about dragging anchors.
02:00:46.000 Well, we know that back in the 60s, the US developed a bunch of medium subs for tapping into cables and cutting cables.
02:00:54.000 Yeah, at the USS Park and the USS Halibut.
02:00:56.000 And they were used actually to tap the cables with these inductance taps.
02:01:01.000 And we also know Israel, this has now been declassified, what was it?
02:01:05.000 It was right during the whole Libyan thing in the late 80s.
02:01:08.000 They went and tapped in offshore, right by the station in 30 feet of water, into the Libyan radio transmitter system on their army radio and transmitted, we're going to launch terror attacks on America.
02:01:22.000 Yeah, and that's what tricked Reagan into bombing Libya and killing Qaddafi's daughter.
02:01:25.000 So, you know, all this kind of stuff is definitely going on.
02:01:29.000 And if you look back at the history, when World War I began, the very first action Britain took was to cut Germany's underwater communications cables.
02:01:37.000 So, cutting a cable as a prelude to war is definitely, you know, a very common incident throughout history.
02:01:44.000 And so now we're seeing all these cables being cut.
02:01:47.000 We don't know if any more have been cut since then.
02:01:49.000 Because of the redundant nature of the internet system, more cables may have been cut that we are just not aware of yet, according to some of the IT people that I talk to.
02:01:58.000 As far as Iran being on or off the net, the main router that is shown on the Internet Traffic Report still reports off, but obviously these countries have satellite links They have access to the older copper lines that they used to use before the optical fiber came along.
02:02:13.000 We've got a break.
02:02:13.000 And Mike, stay there.
02:02:14.000 I want to come back and get more into this.
02:02:15.000 And that's the same analysis I came to.
02:02:17.000 And even people in our own movement are going, it's quite normal to have four cables cut.
02:02:22.000 And this is just, you know, don't get scared.
02:02:25.000 Nothing's going to happen.
02:02:26.000 Iran's still online.
02:02:28.000 Yes, certain government sites that have their servers mirrored outside the nation and have satellite uplinks.
02:02:33.000 Mike Rivero, stay there.
02:02:34.000 This is a big deal.
02:02:36.000 This may be the balloon going up.
02:02:38.000 Or they may be trying to trick Iran into doing something.
02:02:40.000 This is the biggest thing I've seen in this Iranian escalation.
02:02:45.000 This may be it.
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02:06:07.000 Alright, we're going to be talking to Larry Becraft about the Wesley Snipes trial.
02:06:17.000 He's interviewed and talked to the lawyers that ran it.
02:06:19.000 He got off all the felonies, as he should have, but not on the misdemeanors.
02:06:23.000 But those are going to get shot down as well, because he actually did fill out the forms.
02:06:28.000 Then we got Jesse Benton popping in on Super Tuesday to talk about the Ron Paul campaign.
02:06:32.000 I don't know how I'm going to play my Willie Nelson boil-down of the highlights.
02:06:38.000 But it's good to have a jam-packed transmission.
02:06:40.000 Mike Rivero, I just really enjoy your analysis.
02:06:44.000 It's spot-on.
02:06:45.000 There's always even more research on many issues than I've even dug up.
02:06:49.000 I want to get you back up before the month elapses.
02:06:53.000 This is very ominous in my view, these cables being cut, and the fact that our media is acting like it's not suspicious and calling it conspiracy theories makes me even more concerned.
02:07:05.000 Yeah, like I said, normally I would have said, you know, these things break down, but when they started floating that anchor story, you know, the red lights went off because I've done enough sailing to understand that that story really did not have any merit to it at all.
02:07:18.000 And, you know, it may be related to Iran opening the oil bourse on the 12th.
02:07:23.000 We're not sure.
02:07:24.000 I do know that the first of the repair ships will be at the first cable break tomorrow or Thursday, and we'll very quickly know exactly what happened to the cable, we hope.
02:07:35.000 But whatever is happening, you know, if something is happening, if it has not been called off, it's going to happen quickly.
02:07:41.000 Well, the CIA, who during the Cold War actually had officers in command over those subs that would go up and tap into the Soviet cables, In literally 20-30 feet of water, we know that they would even tap into those, and in some cases they were also caught later cutting them, and making it look like a ship's anchor did it.
02:08:04.000 I mean, they engage in all sorts of chicanery, so I'm not even sure we'll know what cut them once they get there, because they have these dome bubbles, as you know, these feet that they put down over the cables when they do this, where these guys are working, you know, in the dry air on the cables.
02:08:20.000 Yeah, and they have to do that now with the optical cables because the old-style inductance taps won't work anymore.
02:08:27.000 So they literally have to open the cable and maybe somebody just botched the job.
02:08:33.000 Yeah, but I don't think they'd botch five of them.
02:08:34.000 Who knows?
02:08:36.000 Mike, I mean, I have to tell you...
02:08:39.000 I think they may go ahead and hit Iran.
02:08:41.000 The word we get from the military is they don't care what the American people think.
02:08:43.000 They're going to go ahead and do it.
02:08:45.000 I don't see how they can do that politically without staging an event.
02:08:48.000 I mean, for two years has this built up.
02:08:50.000 You, Dr. Roberts, myself, Webster Tarpley, anybody who's anybody in analysis.
02:08:56.000 Has said that they're going to try to stage some Gulf of Tonkin.
02:09:00.000 Now it's come out, admitted weeks after you and I reported on it, and others, that they staged that.
02:09:06.000 That it was, you know, some Anglo voice coming in, doing a fake Arab voice.
02:09:12.000 I'm going to blow you up.
02:09:13.000 They say that it was staged.
02:09:15.000 The ships didn't do that.
02:09:17.000 The patrol boats didn't do what they said they did.
02:09:20.000 I mean, exactly what you said has now happened.
02:09:23.000 But luckily, it's not 30 years ago.
02:09:25.000 They didn't get away with it.
02:09:27.000 Now what's going to happen?
02:09:28.000 Mike, what do you predict now?
02:09:29.000 Well, right now, the biggest problem that the warmongers have is that Russia is supporting Iran.
02:09:34.000 And the only way that they can conceive of invading and conquering Iran without Russia coming in is to do something that makes it look like Iran started the war.
02:09:44.000 Then they can tell Russia, you should not support them because, after all, they made the first move.
02:09:48.000 And otherwise, we're going to be at war with Russia.
02:09:51.000 And so they're no doubt trying to find some other little dodge that they can use to trick Americans into supporting a new war.
02:09:57.000 It isn't going to work.
02:09:59.000 They keep thinking that it will.
02:10:00.000 And sooner or later, they're going to make a really big mistake and it's all going to come unraveled.
02:10:04.000 Now, Ahmadinejad is about to be removed out of office.
02:10:07.000 He's very unpopular.
02:10:08.000 He's making weird world government statements.
02:10:11.000 The people are pro-US, pro-US culture.
02:10:15.000 The Iranians are very sophisticated.
02:10:18.000 And everything the neocons are doing is trying to shore up the fanatics in Iran.
02:10:23.000 I mean, there is no reason to go up against them.
02:10:26.000 The CIA even admits they won't have a nuke for seven years.
02:10:30.000 Yeah, and absolutely.
02:10:32.000 The real danger, of course, is the oil bourse is going to accelerate the downward pressure on the dollar.
02:10:37.000 Saudi Arabia is already dropping hints that if Iran succeeds in getting their oil bourse up and running, that they too are going to start taking euros for their oil.
02:10:45.000 And without that foreign demand for the dollar as an oil exchange currency, we're going to see the dollar take a major, major beating.
02:10:51.000 And that is the real danger that Iran and Saudi Arabia represent to us, is that it's going to pull the supports out from our already crippled dollar.
02:11:01.000 And it's not that they're doing something wrong or evil or bad, because our government destroyed our own economy.
02:11:06.000 It's just when Saudi Arabia and Iran de-link from the dollar, they're doing it out of self-preservation, and inevitably the dollar will take a major hit from that.
02:11:16.000 That's right.
02:11:16.000 The central banks loaded everything with the liquidity, flooded it, and now all these nations have steadfastly held onto dollars.
02:11:23.000 It's hurting them as they even try to creep away from it.
02:11:26.000 Then the neocons blame them as being traitors, even though Dick Cheney, two years ago, dumped all his dollars and bought euros.
02:11:33.000 But if Iran does what Dick Cheney did, they call him a traitor.
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02:11:37.000 Mike Rivero joins us once a month.
02:11:39.000 We're really honored to have you, Mike.
02:11:41.000 I look forward to it again.
02:11:41.000 Well, thanks.
02:11:42.000 You bet.
02:11:43.000 There goes Mike Rivera.
02:11:44.000 We're going to get him up sooner than a month because we need his analysis on the war.
02:11:48.000 Even if you think you know it all, folks, you need to have counsel.
02:11:50.000 And speaking of counsel, one of the best constitutional lawyers, one of the most successful in the country, trained at the nation's top schools, but at the same time, he's had a great effect out there in the court cases, winning and winning.
02:12:02.000 And we have him joining us because he's been conferring with Snipes lawyers.
02:12:06.000 He's also been reading over the court record and reporters that covered it.
02:12:11.000 And I can't think of a better person to give us the lowdown.
02:12:15.000 Snipes cleared of felony tax fraud charges.
02:12:18.000 Hey Alex, how you doing?
02:12:18.000 a day later tried to spin this, this is CNN headline, and said, "Oh, but he was found guilty," yes, of misdemeanors.
02:12:25.000 This is a big deal and good for Wesley Snipes.
02:12:27.000 I know people that know him.
02:12:29.000 He is a total anti-New World Order patriot, just like Willie Nelson and everybody else who's got two brain cells to run together.
02:12:36.000 Thank you for coming on, Larry Beecraft.
02:12:37.000 Hey, Alex, how you doing?
02:12:39.000 I've already voted for Ron Paul today, so...
02:12:41.000 Oh, good.
02:12:42.000 How'd that go?
02:12:43.000 Oh, I just went into the polling place early and voted.
02:12:46.000 Fantastic.
02:12:47.000 Again, give us a little snippet of your bio for those that don't know who you are.
02:12:51.000 Fire out the website.
02:12:52.000 I'm a lawyer from North Alabama, Huntsville in particular.
02:12:55.000 That's where I live.
02:12:56.000 I've been involved with the Freedom Movement since about 1979 and been around the track more than once.
02:13:01.000 I end up representing a lot of people that have battles with the government.
02:13:07.000 I'm sorry, you also graduated top of your class in one of the best law schools in the country.
02:13:11.000 Well, I went to Samford University down in Birmingham.
02:13:13.000 It's a Baptist-associated school, and then I went to Cummins School of Law there at Samford, and I graduated back in 1975.
02:13:20.000 Now, let's break this down, Larry Becraft.
02:13:24.000 Just in layman's terms, what happened with this trial?
02:13:27.000 In Wesley Snipes?
02:13:28.000 Yes.
02:13:30.000 He was charged years ago, he ran into a fellow by the name of Eddie Cain, who had a Patriot Tax Organization down in Orlando, Florida.
02:13:39.000 I've defended a number of people that have relied upon Eddie, and Wesley Sipes turned out to be one of those people that was a client of Eddie.
02:13:49.000 Eddie was raided about three or four years ago, then the government turned around and sued him for one of these injunction suits.
02:13:57.000 He took off and fled down to Panama, and in the interim, the government came out with the indictment that involved Doug Roesel, Eddie Cain, and Wesley Snipes.
02:14:07.000 Now Wesley Snipes got involved with Eddie Cain, you know, he just heard about, you know, this guy could do something in reference to taxes, so Eddie educated him on a popular argument at the time, back in about 2000.
02:14:21.000 For lack of a better word, it's been commonly called the 861 argument.
02:14:25.000 In essence, the 861 argument says those that are required to file income tax returns are those that are external to the country, outside the country.
02:14:32.000 Non-resident aliens and citizens that reside abroad.
02:14:35.000 That's the basic legal theory.
02:14:36.000 It has a lot of legal support for it.
02:14:39.000 Wesley studied that and said, hey, I agree.
02:14:42.000 And then Doug Roesel is the guy that persuaded Along with Eddie, to have Eddie and the two of them get together with Snipes and they file these admitted returns to get back money that Wesley had paid in in taxes.
02:14:58.000 And from that point forward, after they did that, Wesley, even though he's a movie star and makes big bucks and has been filming movies all across the world, he didn't file income tax returns because of what he'd learned from Eddie Cain.
02:15:13.000 Ultimately, about a year and a half ago, An indictment was returned.
02:15:18.000 It charged in the indictment that there were three parties involved in the conspiracy to, you know, hurt the government.
02:15:24.000 And that was Eddie Kane, Doug Roesele, and Wesley Snipes.
02:15:28.000 And then the rest of the indictment charged specific tax offenses against Wesley alone.
02:15:33.000 Now, this creates a very interesting problem.
02:15:36.000 You know, you can have the venue, the place where you can bring a charge against people, typically is where the criminal offenses occurred.
02:15:46.000 So they could, in reference to the conspiracy, they could allege, well, you know, a lot of this stuff happened down here in Orlando.
02:15:52.000 Then they ultimately tried it in Ocala.
02:15:54.000 But, you know, the problem with the rest of the indictment is this.
02:15:58.000 You know, when you charge a specific tax crime against somebody, there's places where the criminal action can be pending.
02:16:05.000 One is at the service center, where the return should have been filed.
02:16:09.000 Or two, where the defendant lives.
02:16:12.000 Now there's a very interesting question that's presented here.
02:16:14.000 You know, when you have these six counts of tax crimes against Wesley Snipes, you know, how can they be included In an indictment pending in, or brought in, Orlando, Florida.
02:16:25.000 The rest of his family does not live there.
02:16:25.000 When he lived in New York.
02:16:27.000 He lived in New York, and I guess the government's so sloppy that they didn't even think to try to try this right.
02:16:32.000 And some people will say, well, how dare his lawyers not put him on the stand and explain that there's a gold fringe and all the rest of that stuff, when the technicalities are what got him out of the felonies.
02:16:43.000 Well, I don't know that it's the technicalities.
02:16:45.000 Here's the way I have viewed it, and I only had a chance over the last couple of months.
02:16:49.000 You know, Bob Bernhoff is one of the lawyers for Wesley Snipes, and Bob Barnes is the other lawyer.
02:16:56.000 Over the last couple of months, I haven't had an opportunity to talk to him, although last Friday, you know, when I was gone all of January, but last Friday when I got back from being out in Hawaii, I picked up the phone and called Bob and he just kind of gave me a little update because we hadn't talked in a long time.
02:17:13.000 I had a crowd going on when he had a crowd going on.
02:17:16.000 And I got a little bit of a, you know, I was going to call it later on this week, but I got kind of a heads up on what they've been doing in Wesley Snipes' case.
02:17:23.000 You know, pre-trial, what the issues that were created in reference to Wesley... Stay there, let's move quick with Larry Becraft on the other side who talked to Snipes' lawyer.
02:17:32.000 You'll get the inside skinny and scoop on the other side with Larry B. Crabb right here on the one and only GCN Radio Network.
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02:22:00.000 We took a little bacon and we took the little beans, and we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans.
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02:22:11.000 Larry B. Craft is our guest.
02:22:12.000 I've got to get him back up for a full hour in the next week or so to really flesh out the true nature of the income tax, the real arguments, the reality, and not all the patriot mythology that has sent so many people I even know to prison.
02:22:26.000 There are so many nut quacks who believe what they're saying and they they will not help you when you're going to prison.
02:22:32.000 This is a very serious issue and Uh, getting back to Wesley Snipes, uh, just boil down what actually happened in the four minutes we've got left, Larry, and where Wesley Snipes goes from here, what his lawyer told you.
02:22:48.000 Okay, well, not that he told me a whole lot because we didn't have a long time to talk.
02:22:51.000 These are the issues.
02:22:53.000 Wesley was prosecuted on the six counts and he died of the charged tax crimes.
02:22:59.000 Willful failure to file.
02:23:00.000 The two places where that crime can be brought is number one, where the defendant lives, or the service there, where he should have filed.
02:23:06.000 Now, during the course of the trial, I was reading, not that I liked the lady, J.J.
02:23:11.000 McNabb.
02:23:12.000 She calls herself Tax Mama, but it was the only website I could find that was giving kind of a blow-by-blow, daily recollection of the trial of the case.
02:23:20.000 And she was just sitting there wondering, you know, why are the defense attorneys asking these questions about where Wesley lives?
02:23:26.000 Well, you know, there's a dispute about where Wesley lives.
02:23:30.000 And Wesley maintains that he lives in New York.
02:23:34.000 For that reason, the venue for tax prosecutions in Ocala, Florida or Orlando, Florida is completely wrong.
02:23:42.000 That is a very solid issue for appeal.
02:23:44.000 That's point number one.
02:23:46.000 Point number two is that when they were trying the case, Or leading up to trial, you know, the defense sent out and did a survey of the Ocala, Florida area where Wesley's trial was held.
02:24:00.000 And they did a survey and found out that, you know, there's the racial preference down there, you know, the racial percentages of the population were not reflected in the jury panels that were being called in to sit in cases.
02:24:14.000 So they made that motion.
02:24:15.000 So you got two good, solid issues.
02:24:18.000 They're preserved on appeal that I dare say will win on appeal and result in a reversal of what Russell has been convicted of.
02:24:26.000 But he was found not guilty on the big felonies.
02:24:28.000 That's what matters.
02:24:30.000 Absolutely, absolutely.
02:24:35.000 Jeff Dickstein is a friend of mine.
02:24:37.000 He used to work with Bob Bernhoff in Milwaukee.
02:24:40.000 They tried Joe Bannister.
02:24:42.000 In certain situations, when you're sitting there and going through a trial, you can detect that the government's got a weak case.
02:24:49.000 Well, that's the same thing that happened in Joe Bannister's case.
02:24:52.000 Jeff sat there and listened to it and said, this is a weak case.
02:24:55.000 They didn't put Joe Bannister, the former IRS agent that was being prosecuted by his former buddies, they didn't put Joe on, and the jury came back and acquitted him.
02:25:06.000 Now, the same thing happened here in Wesley Snipes' case, you know, on the big felony counts, you know, on the conspiracy count.
02:25:13.000 You know, as the government presented its evidence, the defense said, hey, this is weak.
02:25:19.000 And they took a risk, you know, any trial strategy is a risk, but they took that risk and they were gambling on and betting, based on the evidence, that the jury would not acquit, would not convict Wesley Snipes of the major felony counts, and that's exactly what happened.
02:25:37.000 And they convicted him on the willful failure to file counts, for which you've got some very good issues that I think are going to result in reversals on appeal.
02:25:45.000 They got the venue issue in reference to the prosecution of the tax crimes.
02:25:49.000 Should have been prosecuted up in New York and not in Ocala, Florida.
02:25:53.000 And number two, you know, the composition of the jury.
02:25:56.000 You know, where are all the blacks?
02:25:58.000 You know, if you get into an area where You know, 99% of the people are going to be white.
02:26:04.000 You know, that's prejudicial against Westin.
02:26:06.000 So I think they've got very strong issues for appeal.
02:26:09.000 Personally, I don't think that Westin Snipes ever are going to have sentencing.
02:26:13.000 He's probably going to get probably three years on those misdemeanor convictions.
02:26:18.000 However, I'm sure he'll get bond on appeal.
02:26:21.000 And I bet the 11th Circuit is going to reverse Westin Snipes' conviction.
02:26:25.000 Then he'll ultimately have to be tried up in New York if the government wants to pursue it further.
02:26:29.000 But let's be clear, he now has misdemeanors against him, not felonies.
02:26:33.000 Absolutely, that is correct.
02:26:35.000 So overall, this is a great victory again.
02:26:38.000 And again, you and a couple other real patriot lawyers are able to get people off.
02:26:45.000 Others have been able to beat it in court as well.
02:26:50.000 But I don't see anybody with these fraudulent patriot Moon is made of cheese arguments, ever winning, and I just have a moral responsibility to warn people, and I need to get you up for a full hour or longer sometime, Mr. Becraft, to walk through... You do that, Alex!
02:27:09.000 I'm going to have my producer actually call you now since you're at the office, Larry, and set that up.
02:27:14.000 Let me just talk to you during the break, because 15-20 minutes of airtime isn't enough time here.
02:27:18.000 And I want to get you up soon, because this is such a central issue.
02:27:23.000 All right, thank you, Larry Becraft.
02:27:24.000 We'll be right back.
02:27:25.000 Scheduled to have Jesse Benton on, the press secretary for the Ron Paul 2008 campaign.
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02:31:18.000 It is Super Tuesday.
02:31:19.000 I'm only going to keep Jesse Benton, the communications director for Ron Paul 2008 campaign.
02:31:25.000 Five, ten minutes.
02:31:27.000 because I want him to get back to his important work.
02:31:29.000 It's Super Tuesday.
02:31:31.000 Thank you for joining us, Jesse, on the front lines to give us a report on what's happening and what the troops can do.
02:31:38.000 Hey, thanks for having me, Alex.
02:31:40.000 I really appreciate it.
02:31:41.000 You've got the floor today.
02:31:42.000 Tell us what's going on right now, what the numbers are, what we can do right now.
02:31:47.000 Well, we've been barnstorming, Alex.
02:31:49.000 I'm sure most of your listeners, as avid as they are, have been paying attention to what our strategy is.
02:31:53.000 And our strategy has been to focus on some of the smaller states, especially smaller states that have caucuses.
02:32:01.000 We might not have the widespread, top-to-bottom, mainstream media-driven support that a John McCain might have, but what we do have is a really powerful, strong, deep grassroots network that's very committed, very intense, and I think that our success in a lot of the caucuses shows how well we can do.
02:32:19.000 You know, we recently won about a third of the delegates in Maine.
02:32:23.000 We believe that we won Louisiana, if they had counted the votes correctly, and we placed second in Nevada.
02:32:28.000 All smaller caucus states.
02:32:30.000 So we can compete dollar for dollar with some of the bigger candidates.
02:32:33.000 And Ron Paul is in third for delegates, above the anointed one of just two weeks ago, Mike Huckabee.
02:32:39.000 Sure thing.
02:32:40.000 And, yeah, we're, well actually, Huckabee has 40 delegates and we have about a dozen.
02:32:45.000 And I saw Paul's report on that, okay.
02:32:48.000 Yeah, he won a bunch of delegates in Iowa.
02:32:52.000 He does have about 40 delegates, but we think he's topped out.
02:32:55.000 We don't see him doing too much more.
02:32:59.000 It's all about delegates today, Alex.
02:33:00.000 We get people out to our caucuses, and we can win a substantial portion of delegates.
02:33:06.000 If we can walk away today with a bunch of delegates in the bank, then we'll be really strong to move forward into Texas, and move forward into some other states that we think we can win, especially if we get a little bit more mainstream media back in states like Idaho, Washington State, down the line.
02:33:22.000 So, again, today's delegates, I can't stress enough to all the loyal listeners out there, all the loyal supporters, you've got to get to your caucus in the caucus states.
02:33:30.000 If you're in North Dakota, Minnesota, Colorado, Alaska, get out there, please, get to your caucuses, and then the primaries, too.
02:33:37.000 We need strong showings in primaries.
02:33:38.000 Every single vote is going to help us in places like Tennessee, where we think we've got a lot of support, New York.
02:33:44.000 Please, get out there, vote in your primary, get to your caucus.
02:33:48.000 It is just so essential.
02:33:49.000 Jesse, I have a report here, I want to know if it's accurate, that Ron Paul was in Minnesota today at the university.
02:33:55.000 Last night, yes, sir.
02:33:56.000 Last night, and there was more than 3,000 people there?
02:33:58.000 There were about 4,200 people there last night, Alex.
02:34:01.000 We packed it.
02:34:02.000 Hillary Clinton had had an event in the same venue about five days earlier.
02:34:06.000 She brought in about 3,200.
02:34:08.000 So we beat Hillary Clinton in turnout at the University of Minnesota.
02:34:13.000 It was absolutely incredible.
02:34:14.000 One of the most electrifying crowds I've had the pleasure to be around.
02:34:19.000 Well, when Ron Paul was there, Well, Louisiana GOP has declared the results final and they have us in second place to Romney.
02:34:27.000 It really was.
02:34:28.000 Something stinks here.
02:34:30.000 Now, whatever happened with, I know we're looking forward, but whatever happened with Louisiana, because I was hearing first place, second place, you guys said there was some problems.
02:34:38.000 What's the final word, at least right now, on that?
02:34:41.000 Well, Louisiana GOP has declared the results final, and they have us in second place to Romney.
02:34:48.000 We believe that we won Louisiana.
02:34:51.000 There were about 500 provisional ballots that were thrown out because they said that people that had cast these ballots were not properly on the voter rolls as of November 30th, We think that they were using a bad list and that they should have counted those provisional ballots.
02:35:07.000 There were just a whole bunch of consistencies and inconsistencies and problems with the entire caucus process.
02:35:13.000 You know, we don't think necessarily that there's anything nefarious going on, but we do think that there was perhaps some incompetence and a lot of mistakes.
02:35:20.000 And we just want the ballot counted.
02:35:22.000 People voted.
02:35:23.000 You know, when people turn out and vote, we think it's pretty important that they're not disenfranchised, that their votes are counted.
02:35:29.000 We do not think that people of Louisiana were properly treated in this caucus.
02:35:35.000 So, we've considered moving forward with some kind of legal action.
02:35:41.000 We're not sure that we're going to do that, but it is a real shame that there were 500 and some provisional ballots thrown out, 500 and some.
02:35:48.000 Louisiana, that we think wanted to vote very heavily for Dr. Paul Disenfranchised.
02:35:54.000 I've got the report that Hillary is having coughing fits and crying again, trying to manipulate people.
02:35:59.000 This woman is an absolute nightmare.
02:36:01.000 She's now proposing that they garnish everyone's wages for national health care.
02:36:06.000 How could anyone vote?
02:36:08.000 For any of these Democrats.
02:36:09.000 I mean, they need to all come over and vote for Ron Paul.
02:36:11.000 I mean, I'm just throwing that out there.
02:36:13.000 I mean, we've got Ann Coulter endorsing Hillary Clinton over the other Republicans.
02:36:18.000 I mean...
02:36:21.000 Sounds like Ann Coulter might have jumped the shark this time.
02:36:24.000 She's been very savvy in marketing herself, but this seems pretty over-the-top to me.
02:36:29.000 Ann Coulter, she likes to get a lot of attention for herself, and I think she just found out another way to get herself on TV a whole heck of a lot.
02:36:36.000 I don't really think that anybody with any conservative bones in their body would think that Hillary Clinton should be the choice for president.
02:36:42.000 Well, I think it shows that they've circled the wagons.
02:36:44.000 Republicans and Democrats in the establishment have circled the wagons.
02:36:48.000 What can we do?
02:36:50.000 What can we do to continue to energize the campaign, Jesse?
02:36:52.000 Well, you know, there are three things, Alex.
02:36:54.000 And I would say this, first of all, to tribute to the presidential campaign.
02:36:58.000 We are going to move forward tomorrow.
02:36:59.000 We are going to have delegates at the back.
02:37:01.000 We are going to move forward.
02:37:02.000 And this thing is going to keep going forward as a presidential campaign and also as a movement.
02:37:08.000 There is something, even if we fail at our bid to the White House and we haven't given up on that yet, we're still fighting the big fight.
02:37:13.000 There is going to be a movement that's going to come out of this, an organization that is going to help elect constitutional Ron Paul Republicans to Congress and is going to continue to spread the message.
02:37:22.000 So continue to contribute, continue to support, and you people out there in states like Pennsylvania, Washington State, Idaho that haven't gotten a chance to vote yet, keep up your energy and your passion.
02:37:34.000 It's your energy and passion that's going to let this thing move forward and give us good chances at accomplishing great things.
02:37:40.000 And second of all, we need to make sure that Ron Paul keeps his congressional seat in the 14th district.
02:37:45.000 If you go to RonPaulForCongress.com, we have another place where you can contribute anything that people out there can afford to give.
02:37:53.000 Yeah, they're coming after him.
02:37:55.000 They're coming after him there, and he got up to the plate, folks.
02:37:57.000 We've got to support him.
02:37:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:37:59.000 You know, we've got a guy nearby.
02:38:01.000 He's a city councilman in Galveston.
02:38:04.000 And he's praised Ron in the past, said Ron was a great citizen, sliced bread, and also promised that if Ron ran for president that he wouldn't run for his congressional seat.
02:38:15.000 But he's gone back on his word, and he's trying some real distasteful smear tactics against Ron.
02:38:21.000 He doesn't support the troops, he voted against body armor for the troops.
02:38:26.000 He doesn't support our president enough.
02:38:28.000 You know, people in the 14th district, they've heard this all before.
02:38:30.000 They know who Ron Paul is.
02:38:31.000 They know he's the taxpayer's best friend.
02:38:33.000 But we just need to make sure that that congressional race just gets just enough money that there's no threat there.
02:38:41.000 We've got to watch the cheating, which we all know is going on.
02:38:43.000 In closing, Jesse Benton, look, we're all going to maximum output now into the next sectors of the primary.
02:38:54.000 But people want to look forward into the second half of the game or to know there's a second half of the game.
02:39:00.000 Are you looking at brokered convention or are you looking at the third party?
02:39:05.000 Because I think you've got the grassroots.
02:39:07.000 We've got the grassroots to put him on the ballot.
02:39:10.000 I know he'll then get the money.
02:39:11.000 He'd be in a three-way or four-way with Bloomberg coming in.
02:39:15.000 And I think Ron Paul I mean you never say never with things like that.
02:39:19.000 I know that you don't want to cross that bridge now, but he's even now been softening his stance, the congressman, and saying, yeah, things have changed.
02:39:19.000 third party.
02:39:26.000 When might we, I mean, I know you have to find out what happens first, but when might we start finding out what the second half's going to look like?
02:39:35.000 Alex, I mean, you never say never with things like that.
02:39:38.000 I would say, though, that, you know, Ron has no intentions and no plans to run for third party.
02:39:43.000 He knows how biased the system is, and he knows that that's the closest thing to a fool's errand that you could get.
02:39:49.000 We're looking at broker convention here right now.
02:39:52.000 If we can roll in with a strong amount of delegates, We could do great things in Minneapolis.
02:39:58.000 Well, I know we've got the Congressman coming on next week or the week after that.
02:40:01.000 I need to get him on quick and I want to get his take on how we'll deal with the Brokered Convention because this is something that is an unknown country for a lot of our listeners.
02:40:10.000 They don't know what a Brokered Convention is and I'd like to hear The congressman's take on that.
02:40:15.000 So we know what the in-game strategy is here.
02:40:17.000 So people understand that we are still in this game in a big way.
02:40:20.000 And bottom line, we've already won because people are being educated about the true nature of government, the Constitution.
02:40:27.000 We already have won.
02:40:28.000 We've won big time.
02:40:28.000 You're absolutely right, Alex.
02:40:30.000 You know, when there were 11 candidates starting out a year ago, nobody had heard of Ron Paul.
02:40:36.000 Would anybody have thought, would anybody have bet a month's grocery money that we'd be standing here right now with delegates in the bank, Probably in third place overall with still a shot in this ball game to win the Hall enchilada.
02:40:48.000 So much of the message has been spread.
02:40:51.000 We've already won big time and we hope to continue this victory.
02:40:54.000 Well I saw a press report and I couldn't dig it out during the break.
02:40:58.000 A couple of news sites are saying he's in third place.
02:41:01.000 Where did they get that number?
02:41:02.000 Because you just alluded to really being in third place but then you said fourth place.
02:41:07.000 I mean where is he?
02:41:08.000 Are we in third place or fourth place?
02:41:09.000 I'm not sure.
02:41:10.000 I'd argue that we're in third place with our potential to score delegates today.
02:41:15.000 It seems like Governor Huckabee has hit a ceiling for himself.
02:41:20.000 We continued to beat him.
02:41:22.000 We just trounced him in Maine.
02:41:23.000 We actually beat John McCain in Maine when it comes down to actual delegates that will go in the bank.
02:41:28.000 Again, second place in Louisiana and Nevada.
02:41:32.000 Let's look and see what we can do tonight in Montana, North Dakota, I think Alaska.
02:41:37.000 Minnesota, I think that'll show that we are in third place and we still are.
02:41:40.000 And then he's looking good in Washington State.
02:41:43.000 Washington State is amazingly strong.
02:41:45.000 That's why we went out there just a few days ago, even though it's not a February 5th state.
02:41:50.000 The support is absolutely amazing.
02:41:51.000 and in the years, and the energy, and you're talking about a place where people are just really savvy and they've figured it out out there.
02:41:57.000 Washington State could be huge for Ron Paul.
02:41:59.000 Absolutely.
02:42:00.000 Jesse Benton, thank you so much.
02:42:02.000 RonPaul2008.com.
02:42:04.000 Donate.
02:42:04.000 Keep fighting.
02:42:05.000 We're having incredible victories.
02:42:06.000 The establishment is scared to death.
02:42:08.000 Good job, everybody.
02:42:09.000 Good job, Jesse Benton.
02:42:10.000 Thanks for spending time with us.
02:42:11.000 Always my pleasure.
02:42:11.000 Thank you, Alex.
02:42:12.000 All right.
02:42:13.000 Now we're going to go into excerpts of the interview I did yesterday, the history-making interview with Willie Nelson.
02:42:19.000 Please get this YouTube clip out to everybody.
02:42:21.000 Here it is, nine minutes long.
02:42:23.000 We'll go into the break with it, come back, and I've got some final news.
02:42:26.000 He is a global icon, an American institution, there's probably nothing more.
02:42:33.000 Americana, what symbolizes America and Texas?
02:42:37.000 And it's Willie Nelson.
02:42:39.000 But now both parties have circled the wagons against the people, and they're saying, we don't care what you want.
02:42:43.000 John McCain said this war is going to go on for a hundred years.
02:42:46.000 Yeah.
02:42:47.000 Yeah, and it can't.
02:42:51.000 It just can't.
02:42:53.000 We can't let it go on another year.
02:42:56.000 I mean, it has to... The other day I was getting interviewed, somebody said, what would you do if you were elected president?
02:43:02.000 I said, I would stop the damn war.
02:43:05.000 And it's just simple.
02:43:07.000 You stop that war, you stop the other wars that we're in around the country, and you go around the country being a peacemaker and stopping wars.
02:43:15.000 I thought that's what you're supposed to do.
02:43:18.000 Since when does America invade all these countries that had nothing to do with 9/11?
02:43:22.000 Yeah, really.
02:43:23.000 And all of a sudden, you know, the way I heard it, there was 15 people from Saudi Arabia hit us in New York, and we go jump on Afghanistan.
02:43:33.000 I never could figure that one out in Iraq.
02:43:35.000 Well, I did figure it out too, but I'm surprised more people haven't figured it out.
02:43:40.000 Willie, you brought it up.
02:43:41.000 You figured it out.
02:43:42.000 What's your take on 9-11?
02:43:43.000 It just came out in AP today that the White House was running the commission.
02:43:48.000 We always knew that, but now they admit.
02:43:50.000 In fact, I have the headline right here, I read it before you came on, where they're now admitting it was a staged commission.
02:43:59.000 Well, that ain't good news, but it doesn't surprise me, did it you?
02:44:04.000 I'm glad it's coming out.
02:44:04.000 No, it didn't.
02:44:06.000 What's your take on 9-11?
02:44:07.000 Do you question the official story?
02:44:10.000 I certainly do and I saw those towers fall and I've seen an implosion in Las Vegas.
02:44:16.000 There was too much similarities between the two.
02:44:19.000 And I saw the building fall and it didn't get hit by nothing.
02:44:22.000 So how naive are we?
02:44:26.000 What do they think we'll go for?
02:44:28.000 So are you saying you started having questions or was that little voice in your head?
02:44:35.000 Did you have a bad feeling the day it happened?
02:44:36.000 Is that what you're saying?
02:44:37.000 The day it happened, I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical.
02:44:41.000 I said, wait a minute, I just saw that last week at the casino over in Las Vegas, and you see these implosions all the time, and the next one fell, and hell, there's another one.
02:44:52.000 And they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it, and that's, you know, I can't go along with that.
02:44:57.000 And then you find out that mainstream news reported, but it never got any attention, that the supposed hijackers were given national security clearance and were trained at U.S.
02:45:05.000 bases, and the dean of the Defense Language School, Colonel Butler, goes public and says, we train these people, the government's involved, and they start court-martialing until he agreed to shut up.
02:45:15.000 True story, I guess.
02:45:17.000 I hate to hear it, but it's probably true.
02:45:20.000 You've had a chance to see what, Terror Storm, Endgame, some of the other films.
02:45:23.000 What's Willie Elson's take on those films?
02:45:27.000 Oh, I think they're right on.
02:45:28.000 I think, you know, the fact that there are a few elite that are running everything, calling the shots, starting the wars, financing them all.
02:45:38.000 I believe that.
02:45:39.000 And what else they're doing, who knows?
02:45:42.000 But that one thing alone is enough for us to think about how do we stop them.
02:45:49.000 Well, the proof is in the pudding.
02:45:50.000 If you've got, on every issue, 75 to 85, in all the major scientific polls, the people are against everything this government's doing.
02:45:57.000 We send the Democrats to Congress to end the war.
02:45:59.000 They increase it.
02:46:01.000 And now they're saying they're going to be there 100 years, Hillary and McCain.
02:46:04.000 I mean, to me, that is a small group running things right there in front of us.
02:46:08.000 Absolutely.
02:46:09.000 And as far as I can see, all those people attended the same meetings that you and the guys attended up in Canada.
02:46:15.000 Am I wrong?
02:46:16.000 Oh, no.
02:46:16.000 A lot of them do go to the Bilderberg Group.
02:46:18.000 Yes, sir.
02:46:19.000 Yes.
02:46:19.000 Is that freedom?
02:46:21.000 I don't think so.
02:46:21.000 It's not democracy either.
02:46:27.000 Willie Nelson, you're blowing me away here.
02:46:29.000 The best in the news today, we're seeing that they've recruited 26,000 creatures.
02:46:39.000 The White House has from FEMA to tell their flocks to stand down in the Presidential Decision Directive 51.
02:46:45.000 Bush says he's above the Congress.
02:46:48.000 It's no longer involved in continuity of government in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
02:46:52.000 They had openly funded for insurrection and rebellion by the American people.
02:46:57.000 The whole police state apparatus they built up after 9-11, and I want to get your take on this, Willie, because I know you're aware of it, is now being used against the people.
02:47:06.000 They're not even talking about the boogeyman of Al-Qaeda anymore.
02:47:13.000 No, and I do believe that it's a long time until election day and some sort of national crisis could put off the elections and we could have George in there ten years longer.
02:47:24.000 A lot of people are saying that.
02:47:27.000 I was saying that many years ago and now Bob Woodward's talked about others setting up for martial law of all people.
02:47:34.000 Naomi Wolf is talking about it.
02:47:37.000 I think that might save us.
02:47:39.000 I'm seeing a light at the end of the tunnel.
02:47:41.000 But I think you're right.
02:47:43.000 I think that's a great danger.
02:47:44.000 If that did happen, a nuke went off, a biological weapon was released, or terrorists supposedly blew up a bunch of other buildings, what do you think the response of the population should be if they announce we're under this new emergency?
02:47:56.000 It could be an economic emergency, and Bush is going to have to stay on to save us.
02:48:00.000 Well, I would hope that we'd be smarter than that, and I would hope that we'd say no.
02:48:10.000 "We're throwing all you guys out and we're starting over." You know, you can stop the elections if you want to, but you can't stop the people.
02:48:19.000 Well, Ron Paul has gotten more donations from troops and people in Iraq than all Republicans combined.
02:48:28.000 The troops in polls, 75% are against the war, so if Bush is planning on using these troops here, it looks like he's going to have a problem.
02:48:35.000 Well, again, the troops are under orders, and if they don't do what they, you know, the orders are, then they get shot.
02:48:42.000 So, uh, the troops have no choice.
02:48:46.000 It is a big idea.
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02:51:46.000 If Bush is planning on using these troops here, it looks like he's going to have a problem.
02:51:50.000 Well, again, the troops are under orders, and if they don't do what they, you know, the orders are that they get shot, so the troops have no choice.
02:51:59.000 There's a few of them in there that are there because they I think it's the right thing to do.
02:52:04.000 There are a few there because they just like to fight.
02:52:07.000 But there's a lot of them, like you say, that would rather be home with their families and save our good men and women for something that really matters, for really something that is the defense of our country.
02:52:18.000 If we need some people down here on the borders, let's take 150,000 people out of Iraq and put them on the borders of Canada and Mexico.
02:52:24.000 We can secure our borders that way.
02:52:27.000 Well, how do we have this war on terror where there's an Al-Qaeda terrorist under every bed, under every table?
02:52:32.000 We've got to have checkpoints and kids getting thumb scanned to get their lunches to stop Al-Qaeda, but then the border's wide open.
02:52:39.000 That kind of makes the war on terror look like a fraud.
02:52:41.000 Well, yeah, and they're fighting over there, because you remember the old joke about the guy that dropped a quarter and he was looking around, and I said, where did you lose it?
02:52:49.000 I said, I lost it over yonder.
02:52:50.000 And he said, what are you looking over here for?
02:52:52.000 I said, well, I call the lights better.
02:52:58.000 I think that's why they're over there with the lights better.
02:53:01.000 Well, it's a black hole to launder money and dump trillions of dollars in no-bid contracts to Halliburton.
02:53:09.000 We're out of time with that interview.
02:53:11.000 It's up on PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, boiled down, some of the most hardcore stuff he's said, to about ten minutes.
02:53:19.000 Nine minutes, 44 seconds.
02:53:20.000 If you want to get technical, you just heard about seven minutes of it.
02:53:23.000 Get it, email it out to everybody.
02:53:25.000 They're trying to censor it.
02:53:27.000 It has not broken out into the mainstream media because they don't want to have to attack him because he's so loved.
02:53:34.000 But Willie came out and went public because he wants it out.
02:53:37.000 He told me that.
02:53:38.000 He wants people to look at it.
02:53:39.000 He wants people to investigate Building 7.
02:53:42.000 If we don't turn this around, they're going to stage more events.
02:53:45.000 And I need you to go to PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com and get the articles that we have written about this, the original article that's in the News and Focus section on the right-hand column of PrisonPlanet.com, where Willie Nelson talks about the controlled demolition of the towers.
02:54:01.000 We need to get this out to everybody.
02:54:03.000 Headline.
02:54:05.000 Here's your mission if you choose to accept it.
02:54:07.000 Willie Nelson, Twin Towers were imploded on 9-11.
02:54:10.000 American Icon tells Alex Jones Show he questions official story.
02:54:15.000 ABC News here locally did a blurb on it.
02:54:17.000 That's on the site.
02:54:17.000 We commend them.
02:54:18.000 Drudge had it up for less than an hour.
02:54:20.000 Pulled it.
02:54:21.000 That's because they're afraid to attack him.
02:54:23.000 People love Willie Nelson.
02:54:25.000 He's done this to try to stop further attacks.
02:54:27.000 We absolutely... This is a test of the alternative media to see if we can make this story go supernova.
02:54:34.000 We are now 24 hours into the interview.
02:54:36.000 24 hours after we had the interview.
02:54:38.000 We were ending the interview this time yesterday.
02:54:42.000 This is up to you.
02:54:43.000 What are you going to do?
02:54:45.000 Are you going to get it out to everybody?
02:54:47.000 Are you going to let them... See, Willie Nelson talking about how he's worried about a dictatorship, martial law, government-sponsored terror.
02:54:55.000 This is a big deal.
02:54:57.000 We need to get this out everywhere.
02:54:59.000 The message boards, call-in-to-talk radio shows, call-in-to-mainstream talk shows, call-in-to-locally on Jeff Ward's show today.
02:55:07.000 You know, call-in-to-everything.
02:55:09.000 I'm going to be calling to shows.
02:55:11.000 Get our stories.
02:55:12.000 Send them to the AP in Austin.
02:55:13.000 I want them to be knee-deep in it.
02:55:15.000 Call.
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02:55:16.000 Get the AP office in Austin.
02:55:18.000 AP office in Nashville.
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02:55:21.000 Call them all.
02:55:22.000 Help us.
02:55:23.000 We don't have a big staff.
02:55:25.000 We need your help to explode 9-11 Truth even bigger.
02:55:30.000 And get that YouTube clip.
02:55:31.000 Get it out to everybody.
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02:55:41.000 Ladies and gentlemen, InfoWAR.
02:55:45.000 PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, or if you don't even have a computer and you're listening on AM or FM, shortwave satellite, call your local news talk station and say, have you seen the ABC report out of Austin?
02:55:57.000 Send them that.
02:55:57.000 They're more likely to pick it up.
02:55:59.000 This is big.
02:56:00.000 Willie Nelson, all the country stations, hit them.
02:56:04.000 Hit them, ladies and gentlemen.
02:56:06.000 This is a big... It's like they've ignored Ron Paul.
02:56:08.000 We forced them to cover him.
02:56:09.000 We've got to force this to be reported on.
02:56:12.000 We'll give you all the details of what happened on Super Tuesday tomorrow.
02:56:14.000 More guests.
02:56:15.000 Ron Paul's either scheduled this week or early next.
02:56:17.000 You heard Jesse Benton.
02:56:18.000 Give the nod on that.
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02:56:21.000 Retransmission starts now.
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