Alex Jones sits down with country music legend Willie Nelson to talk about his new album, "Grave Digger" and his new band, The Graveside Diggers, which is a tribute to the late singer and songwriter Willie Nelson.
00:02:27.000Well, we have this new album that's out, it's called A Moment of Forever, and it's a song that Chris wrote, and it's probably the greatest love song I've ever heard.
00:02:35.000And then we've got a couple of videos coming out of the album, The Grave Diggers one, and then we did another video that's coming out in a couple of months.
00:02:47.000We did it down at my ranch there in Texas, out there.
00:02:52.000There's a video with me and Jessica Simpson and Owen Wilson and Woody Harrelson and all the Wilson boys and Ray Price and Johnny Bush.
00:03:01.000And we just had a big crowd down there in town and we had a lawnmower race.
00:03:23.000What are some of the sites people can visit to see your latest info?
00:03:28.000Well, there's williemnelson.com, and my daughter does a column every day to tell everybody what we're into out here.
00:03:37.000And there's the williemnelsonpri.com, which is a website set up.
00:03:44.000I did it originally to try to organize all the peace organizations in the world, And I did a pretty good job of doing that, I think, because there's a whole lot of networking going on there about people talking about peace.
00:03:58.000And then I wrote this song with my daughter, Amy, called Peaceful Solution.
00:04:04.000And I put the song on the website and told people they could record it, rewrite it, or sing it, or put their band behind it.
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00:09:47.000I was about ten, let's see, before I got out of high school I started a band with me and my sister and my brother-in-law and my football coach and he played trombone and we had a little family band.
00:10:21.000Yeah, I was with KHBR in Hillsboro and we got our own radio show there every Saturday and then after that I went to the Air Force and then went down to Pleasanton, Texas and went to work at KOB Pleasanton down there and then I worked several other radio stations and at the same time playing bars around trying to make it It's amazing.
00:10:44.000Well, you certainly did make it a long career.
00:10:47.000You've been out, what, on the road and playing since, what, 54, 55, earlier?
00:10:54.000Yeah, at least 49, when I graduated from high school.
00:11:12.000I mean, you've been speaking out against it from the very start, and if you did that at the beginning, the media, the corporate media tried to punish people.
00:11:19.000They punished the Dixie Chicks, but they kind of shied away from attacking you too much.
00:11:23.000They tried to make an example out of them.
00:11:25.000But I remember hearing you on the radio just saying, hey, you know, I don't care, you know, what they do.
00:12:19.000And I mean, I make the point that they backed off from you because I don't think that they could chew up Willie Nelson.
00:12:26.000I think they tried to pick on the Dixie Chicks, but it seemed that that backfired on them.
00:12:30.000Well it did and it took a while and the chicks had to go through some uncomfortable times but you know they're tough and they came out on the other side of it really looking great and they're more popular now than they were then and a lot of it's because of that.
00:12:47.000So you know I don't know whether they'd rather have it done that way or not but at least they said what they thought and they stuck with it and I think their last record was you know we're not ready to make nice yet.
00:12:58.000Not ready to play nice, not ready to go along with this.
00:13:00.000I'm mad as hell, and I'm just going to continue doing the right thing.
00:13:04.000And that's why they're becoming even bigger icons.
00:13:10.000I mean, you were there from day one saying it was bad.
00:13:12.000Now, 80% of Americans Uh... are saying it's a bad idea.
00:13:17.000We know we were lied to about the WMDs.
00:13:20.000We know the White House and Downing Street memo, uh... that Bush tried to manufacture, getting some of our aircraft shot down with Blair to start the war.
00:13:28.000Uh... Where's Willie Nelson now, uh... five years into this war, uh... and uh... thousands and thousands of dead Americans, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis?
00:13:41.000I mean, you've been vindicated yet again.
00:14:26.000The humanity, the humans, the children, the people that die, that have their countries bombed out, the Americans that are taxed to pay for it all, and the no-bid contracts.
00:14:35.000Humanity loses, but these kingpins, they win.
00:14:38.000Yeah, and they've been winning ever since You know, in the Old Testament it talked about war, there'd always be wars and rumors of wars, but in the New one it said, let's talk about peace, and then there was, there's going to be some peace, and I believe that there's, eventually, there's going to be peace on Earth.
00:14:58.000And it's those other bastards that are getting in the way of it, so what do we do about them, Alex?
00:15:06.000I do interviews every day on other people's talk shows, even confrontational interviews, adversarial interviews, and they'll take 10, 20 calls.
00:15:15.000And at 20 calls, 19 people agree with me while the neocon or right-wing host is attacking me, because I come to it from a libertarian perspective, and it just neutralizes them.
00:15:25.000Now, five, six years ago, that wasn't happening.
00:16:02.000You stop that war, you stop the other wars that were in around the country, and you go around the country being a peacemaker and stopping wars.
00:16:10.000I thought that's what you're supposed to do.
00:16:13.000Since when does America invade all these countries that have nothing to do with 9-11?
00:17:32.000The day it happened, I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical.
00:17:36.000I said, wait a minute, I just saw that last week at the, you know, at the casino over in Las Vegas.
00:17:42.000And you see these implosions all the time.
00:17:45.000And then the next one fell and I said, hell, there's another one.
00:17:47.000And they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it, and that's, you know, I can't go along with that.
00:17:52.000And then you find out that mainstream news reported, but it never got any attention, that the supposed hijackers were given national security clearance and were trained at U.S.
00:18:00.000bases, and the dean of the Defense Language School, Colonel Butler, goes public and says, we train these people, the government's involved, and they start court-martialing until he agreed to shut up.
00:18:22.000I think, you know, the fact that there are a few elite that are running everything, calling the shots, starting the wars, financing them all, I believe that.
00:18:33.000And what else they're doing, who knows?
00:18:36.000But that one thing alone is enough for us to think about how do we stop them.
00:19:22.000Willie Nelson, you're blowing me away here.
00:19:25.000When we get back, I want to talk about solutions, your ideas, because the people are awake to a certain extent.
00:19:31.000I just don't think that they have the specifics of what to do.
00:19:33.000I'm going to tell them about some of your organizations and groups, and I agree with taking Our everyday life in our own hands, like you've done with the biodiesel, that's a separate thing from what they're doing with the corn and other things, and I want to be sure and separate that out and explain that to people, and what you've tried to do, and all the money you've put into trying to get us into renewable resources, and things that are actually, you know, will allow us to not continue to destroy the Earth.
00:20:16.000I mean, you talk about how we do have this elite running things, and the evidence shows that, and the documents have been declassified.
00:20:22.000What are your ideas to get the people to mobilize to do something about it?
00:20:29.000The song that I wrote called Peaceful Solution, now all those people that recorded it believe, and so do I, that there is a peaceful solution.
00:20:41.000And it's called a peace revolution, and we just take back America.
00:20:46.000And we do it, vote it back, we do it, we make sure that the crooked ballot boxes are thrown away, we get a paper trail and everything, and make sure that Good honest people can get back in control and that's the only way we're going to do it is to just do it.
00:21:06.000Just in the news today, we're seeing that they've recruited 26,000 preachers the White House has through FEMA to tell their flocks to stand down, to turn in their guns, to follow orders, to do what the President says in the Presidential Decision Directive 51.
00:21:23.000It's no longer involved in continuity of government in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
00:21:27.000They have openly funded for insurrection and rebellion by the American people.
00:21:32.000The whole police state apparatus they built up after 9-11, and I want to get your take on this, Willie, because I know you're aware of it, is now being used against the people.
00:21:41.000They're not even talking about the boogeyman of Al-Qaeda anymore.
00:21:45.000No, and I do believe that it's a long time until Election Day and some sort of national crisis could put off the elections.
00:21:55.000And we could have George in there ten years longer.
00:22:19.000If that did happen, a nuke went off, a biological weapon was released, or terrorists supposedly blew up a bunch of other buildings, what do you think the response of the population should be if they announce we're under this new emergency?
00:22:31.000It could be an economic emergency, and Bush is going to have to stay on to save us.
00:22:35.000Well, I would hope that we'd be smarter than that, and I would hope that we'd say, no, we're throwing all you guys out, we're starting over You can stop the elections if you want to, but you can't stop the people.
00:22:54.000Well, Ron Paul has gotten more donations from Well, again, the troops are under orders, and if they don't do what they, you know, the orders are, then they get shot.
00:23:05.000There's a few of them in there that are there because they think it's the right thing to do.
00:23:08.000It looks like he's going to have a problem. - Well, again, the troops are under orders, and if they don't know what the orders are, then they get shot.
00:23:20.000There's a few of them in there that are there because they think it's the right thing to do.
00:23:24.000There are a few there because they just like to fight.
00:23:27.000But there's a lot of them, like you say, that would rather be home with their families and save our good men and women for something that really matters, for really something that is the defense of our country.
00:23:38.000If we need some people down here on the borders, let's take 150,000 people out of Iraq and put them on the borders of Canada and Mexico.
00:23:47.000Well, Howard, we have this war on terror where there's an Al-Qaeda terrorist under every bed, under every table.
00:23:53.000We've got to have checkpoints and kids getting thumb scanned to get their lunches to stop Al-Qaeda, but then the border's wide open.
00:23:59.000That kind of makes the war on terror look like a fraud.
00:24:02.000Well, yeah, and they're fighting over there because you remember the old joke about the guy that dropped a quarter and he was looking around and the guy said, where did you lose it?
00:26:03.000This can't happen because everyone is an individual.
00:26:05.000We all have our free will and God gave us the freedom to use it.
00:26:11.000So no matter where we are, what we're doing, if we know it's wrong, we should not do it.
00:26:18.000Well, for anybody that wants the report, it was a Filipino-American General, two-star General Tugumbu, was hired to run the report on 30-plus camps in Iraq, and that was the findings for anybody that wants to go check that.
00:26:30.000Those are amazing claims, but they are true.
00:26:36.000Speaking of an individual like George Bush, and these elitists that are puppeteering him, How do you think they sleep at night, Willie?
00:26:44.000Because somebody like you or myself, you know, we have a conscience, and I love my conscience.
00:26:51.000And I wonder about psychopaths sometimes, how they just enjoy evil.
00:26:55.000Well, you know, I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up with a lot of people who really are... You have to doubt if they have a conscience.
00:27:06.000And I know they're all over the world, so I'm not surprised that people, you know, can torture because I've seen it happen all my life and you know smaller degrees.
00:27:17.000But there are just some people who are that way.
00:27:20.000They like to make the other person uncomfortable in whatever way they can.
00:28:44.000Oh, I like Ron Paul, but I think he's got the same troubles that Dennis had.
00:28:48.000First of all, You know, there's not that much support.
00:28:52.000Behind him, he is growing a little bit, but I noticed his numbers had come up in, where was it, Maine here in the last day or so that he got quite a good... You know, I like what he says.
00:29:05.000I still think when we get down to it, it's going to be McCain and either Hillary or Obama.
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00:33:02.000He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:33:10.000We're back live, ladies and gentlemen, transmitting on the MNFM dial across the nation, simulcast on the satellite and on the internet at truthnews.us, infowars.com, prisonplanet.com.
00:33:23.000We have eight servers, and this has not happened in about a year.
00:33:28.000Some of the sites you can't even hardly get to right now.
00:33:30.000I guess the word has spread on the internet.
00:33:32.000That Willie Nelson is, and we can take millions of visitors, so people are going crazy right now on the websites.
00:33:39.000Willie, you have made quite a splash here.
00:33:49.000Getting into the war and then the solution, you know, trying to fix this politically, Magically, Ron Paul's been getting half the votes the polls show he should get.
00:34:00.000Obama was getting 15 more points or more than Hillary in New Hampshire.
00:34:03.000She magically won by almost four points.
00:34:26.000You've got to get rid of the voting machines because they're crooked, or they can be hacked.
00:34:30.000And we can't afford to have another election stolen.
00:34:36.000Well, in the past, when you were growing up as a young man, and then even older, I mean, the voting was, they put the ballot box out in the middle of the room, they all got counted, that precinct then announced it, everybody got to watch the counting.
00:35:26.000I mean, how do you... The establishment knew we weren't going to like what they were doing, and so now they've moved in to block us with these machines.
00:35:35.000Well, since I know zero about machines, you know, it wouldn't be that hard for them to fool me.
00:35:40.000You know, and it's been... It's done with pencil and paper.
00:35:43.000I get fooled with that, too, but it's a little harder.
00:35:48.000But you didn't get fooled on the war from day one, and you didn't get fooled on 9-11, Willie.
00:36:08.000I think he's a great guy, and I wish him well.
00:36:12.000We'll see what happens, I guess tomorrow, that will answer a lot of our questions.
00:36:18.000Yeah, Super Tuesday coming up tomorrow.
00:36:22.000Willie, getting back into 9/11, because you brought it up, and I was debating even bringing it up, it's so controversial, but other questions, other things that piqued your interest and made you question the official story surrounding 9/11?
00:36:37.000Well, as soon as it happened, and the next day, I I was somewhere doing a show and somebody said, what do you think about it?
00:36:48.000I said, well, first of all, when I get hit, I like to look around and see who did it before I start swinging at everybody in the room.
00:36:56.000And it kind of looked like what we were doing.
00:36:59.000We get hit over here and the next thing you know, we're jumping on everybody in the town.
00:37:09.000I think we have some Questions that need to be answered from those folks.
00:37:13.000You know, that's a really good point you make.
00:37:17.000Again, Newsweek reported a week after 9-11 that in the six months before, they had mass carrier task forces, 44,000 U.S.
00:37:25.000troops, 18,000 British troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan surrounding, and that Bush on September 10th signed the order in the next week to attack Afghanistan.
00:37:35.000Man, what timing, Willie, that he signed the attack order the day before!
00:37:47.000Yeah, I mean, what does it take for us to realize that, you know, we're having the world pulled over our eyes one more time?
00:37:56.000You know, there's a war against the American people, and that's the drug war.
00:38:00.000Back when drugs were sold on store shelves, we had a lot less drug use in this country.
00:38:06.000They criminalize it, it corrupts the police, and it puts a lot of money in drugs, and then the kids get involved in it, and of course they've got to go after marijuana, because 70 plus percent of people don't use other drugs.
00:38:18.000They use the medicine hemp, and you've been a big advocate, you know, exposing how DuPont and Dow Chemical shut that down, even the cannabis varieties that don't even have HTC in them.
00:38:33.000When did you first begin to fight the drug war and to expose what was happening with the suppression of hemp?
00:38:39.000Well, first of all, I knew that there should be, that it's the greatest killer on the planet is stress and the best medicine is cannabis.
00:39:25.000It stopped the farmer from growing And making ethanol, because he was making ethanol in the same piece of equipment that he made his whiskey in, which was a still.
00:39:36.000So when they brought in Prohibition and stopped the whiskey, they also stopped the making of ethanol and they put the farmers out of business who were making their own fuel.
00:39:46.000And also Standard Oil again won the battle.
00:39:51.000Yeah, my family's from in between Fairfield and Buffalo, and we've still got over 1,000 acres out there.
00:40:02.000Some of the years they would sell land off the original Spanish land grant just to be able to pay the taxes.
00:40:18.000But there's old metal remnants of stills.
00:40:21.000And the story I got was that they made them destroy them.
00:40:25.000And went after people, and they weren't even, most of the time, making moonshine with them, but you're right, that was an economic warfare against the farmers, because I know that happened to my family, the Joneses.
00:40:36.000Well, it definitely happened to a lot of people, and it put the ethanol people out of business the first time, and then the second time around they put them out of business, and now they're trying to do it again, and as oil goes up and up and up and up, They're also looking at us over here who are the alternative energies, and I've heard from the oil companies that, hey, you know, it's all right.
00:40:59.000You guys go ahead and do what you're going to do for the next 36 months or so, and then we're going to come in and take it over.
00:41:05.000And that would all be well and good, except that when that happens, I know it's not going to be good for the local producer and the local consumer.
00:41:14.000A lot of things will be imported, palm oil for all over the world, and that's not good until we can get it back to where But your family and my family can grow their own ethanol and their own biodiesel.
00:41:29.000Then our economy is going to stay bad.
00:41:31.000We have to bring it back to sustainable agriculture locally, and it's got to start locally.
00:41:37.000Well, going back to biodiesel, there's a big difference between biodiesel and some of the things they're making out of corn because you're able to make the biodiesel you create out of all sorts of things.
00:41:50.000Can you explain the difference and then talk about the program you've tried to launch nationally?
00:41:55.000Well, the first diesel engine, Rudolph Diesel designed his first engine to run on peanut oil.
00:42:03.000So for all these years that we've been using You know, oil and diesel.
00:42:12.000We could have been using all kinds of vegetable oils.
00:42:16.000We didn't have to become that dependent.
00:42:18.000So, it was a, again, it was a planned agenda to keep us away from the biodiesel because they wanted to sell us oil.
00:42:28.000At the same time, the government was using biodiesel and ethanol in its equipment because it was Cheaper to produce, and the equipment ran better on it, but they didn't give it to the private sector because they wanted us to keep using oil.
00:42:47.000Well, you talk about the Monopoly game they played to do this.
00:42:50.000Is that where... I mean, is that the place you started to learn about the Monopoly men and the larger global forces, or when did you discover what, for lack of a better term, we'd call the New World Order or the Kingpins?
00:43:07.000When the cannabis thing and the marijuana was made illegal back in those days, I traced it back to the petrochemicals again.
00:43:15.000Everything that was made from Cannabis now is made from petrochemicals so it's just the oil companies again coming in and taking over and making marijuana illegal and telling people it's crazy and it'll kill you and all that stuff.
00:43:33.000So far I don't know of anybody that's died from marijuana unless a bale fell on them or something.
00:43:39.000My friend Kevin Booth just produced a film I consulted on called American Drug War.
00:43:43.000It's going to be airing on Showtime coming up in March, I guess next month.
00:43:49.000And he spent four years making it, and he's got the numbers from year to year it changes, but about 200,000 to 300,000 it changes each year die from pharmacological legal drugs.
00:44:01.000And about 10,000 die a year from all the really hard, you know, quote, baddy legal drugs, which I agree are bad, heroin, cocaine, things like that.
00:44:09.000And then they can't even find any deaths from marijuana, and George Washington grew it on his land and smoked it for stomachaches.
00:44:17.000So, why is marijuana illegal, and why do they fill the prisons with hundreds of thousands of people a year who are caught with it?
00:44:24.000Well, it's obvious again, because everything that's made from petrochemicals one time was made from cannabis.
00:45:17.000I mean, you can grow it anywhere, and it's just an incredible product for industry, but I guess it's not centralized like a giant chemical plant, so they just can't let the farmers have that, can they?
00:45:32.000It's just too hard for them to compete against something that you can just throw out some seeds and that you've got food, fuel, material, everything you need in one seed.
00:45:45.000And that's just too much for them to compete with.
00:50:36.000And, you know, it doesn't, after all the other things that they've done, lying is certainly not going to stop them.
00:50:44.000If all it takes to cover up what they're doing is a little white lie, Well, they'll, you know, they'll paint the world with a little white lies.
00:50:53.000And I wouldn't call, you know, white lies are bad enough, but these are big black lies.
00:51:01.000Willie, I want to talk about courage, and I know you get sick of people thanking you and lauding you, you're a very humble man, that's where your strength flows from, but the courage, or is it just instinctive, it's in your spirits, you're just doing it, I mean, the courage to come on this show, And I don't think you've ever talked about 9-11, I don't think you've ever talked about martial law, or maybe I missed it anywhere else.
00:51:23.000And to say these things, tell us in your heart why you're doing this, and A, and then B, is this the first time you've said some of these things?
00:51:32.000No, it's not the first time I've said it, and it won't be the last time.
00:51:45.000But I just believe in saying what you really think, and that's always been what I did.
00:51:54.000Sometimes that doesn't go well with other people, but they'll have to get over it.
00:51:59.000Well, you are certainly a straight shooter.
00:52:02.000There is absolutely no doubt about that.
00:52:07.000In about six minutes the show is going to end, John, and I want you to go out in the last 30-45 seconds with Willie from that high-woman song, Silver Stallion.
00:52:19.000Talking to a music legend like yourself, obviously Johnny Cash affected me a lot, so did Waylon Jennings.
00:52:25.000What is it like having those two friends gone, Willie?
00:55:14.000I guess worst case scenario would be if we all had to go back to the way we grew up and grow our own food in our own gardens in the backyard or in our pot plants or whatever.
00:55:26.000In fact, all over Houston, New York and cities now, people are using vacant lots and rooftops to grow, starting to grow their own vegetables.
00:55:35.000And I think the way things are going, we all should be thinking about how can we sustain ourselves.
00:55:42.000If gasoline is too expensive, or if there is no more, or if the roads get cut off, there's the weather problems that we've had, and from all indications, those things are going to get worse.
00:55:55.000Are you familiar with the Mayan calendar, by the way?
00:55:58.000I am, and it's clear we're going to have to do a part two, if you'll do it, in the next six months or so.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:09.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:14.000Welcome ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
00:59:35.000It is already the first day of February 2008.
00:59:38.000We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:59:43.000In the third hour in studio, Paul Grudy, he was the funeral director who took the body of Lee Harvey Oswald.
00:59:52.000And then the federal government came in, Secret Service, FBI, and made him put the palm print of Lee Harvey Oswald on the Manleker Carcano rifle that supposedly shot three shots in right at six seconds.
01:00:12.000Just another absolute nail in the coffin.
01:00:15.000He lives here in Austin, Texas, and I'm making a film about the JFK assassination.
01:00:20.000The final word is really what it's going to be.
01:00:25.000Jim Mars was saying, you know, he used to live in Dallas, but he lives in Austin now, out by Lake Travis.
01:00:50.000So he and his son were there, really nice people.
01:00:54.000So he'll be coming on the show in the third hour today.
01:00:58.000We're also scheduled, coming up in the next hour, to have the very successful, well-known hip-hop slash rap artist, Paris, coming on the show.
01:01:08.000It's very frustrating to me that he's been trying to contact me for several years, and I get so many thousands of emails to the main email account that we missed it, repeatedly.
01:01:18.000So I put the call out, I guess, Tuesday.
01:01:20.000I said, you know, I'm sick of not being able to talk to Paris.
01:01:23.000He said he liked Road to Tyranny on his website back in 2002, and that 9-11 was an inside job.
01:01:29.000And I got an email from him then, but I can't ever get a hold of him, and boom, he somehow got Aaron's number and called yesterday, so he's scheduled to be joining us coming up later in the broadcast as well.
01:01:44.000And you know how much I love his artistry, his work.
01:01:48.000Okay, really big news in the meantime.
01:01:51.000Let me just give you the headlines I have here in front of me.
01:01:54.000Coulter, I will vote for Hillary over McCain, Fox News.
01:02:45.000I mean, this is a top expert from one of the biggest Outfits out there, Morgan Stanley, he's one of their top people.
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01:09:31.000And what does matter is family, and sovereignty, and freedom, and friends, and liberty.
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01:10:44.000And I turned, as I was there at the entrance, I'd already gone through three checkpoints, the Madison Square Garden, entering into the media entrance, And I thought that I was seeing like a concentration camp victim slash ringwraith.
01:11:08.000And as she was walking towards me, she had rouge on her cheeks.
01:11:12.000It was like a corpse and it had makeup put on it.
01:11:16.000And she had a gaggle of men in suits around her and she was literally Have you ever seen a concentration camp victim or somebody starving to death in Africa or Asia?
01:11:25.000You know, their joints start going out and they're having trouble walking.
01:11:30.000She looked, she was as anorexic as it gets.
01:11:33.000And then she just had these evil eyes stumbling forward, painted up like a corpse, like you'd paint up a corpse.
01:11:40.000And then she just gave me a leering smile and stumbled past me.
01:11:47.000Now, I don't normally go after people for how they look.
01:12:07.000I got the same evil from Janet Reno when I talked about how she ran the mass murder op at Waco to her face at the LBJ Presidential Library.
01:12:17.000By the way, that's in Police State 2, the takeover.
01:12:20.000And I brought up the murder of the children and she smiled like a demon and stuck her tongue out and was, you know, enjoying it.
01:12:42.000I've been close, you know, face up to her.
01:12:45.000Back in 97, no, 96, I got into the, well, the radio station said, hey, we were given these passes to cover this film festival, the Governor's Film Festival.
01:13:35.000I've debated her here, where she said the Patriot Act didn't say that they could go after citizens, and I'd read her the subsection, and she would just laugh at me.
01:13:55.000She is there to bind conservatives to her.
01:13:57.000She's there to sell them on the lie of neoconservatism and endless war and tyranny.
01:14:06.000But the reason this report is important is that We told you that Roger Ailes, going back now eight years, I keep saying four or five, years and years have passed, and I just keep using the same number.
01:14:18.000Since the election, since 2001, so that's like seven and a half years, it came out, I got sources in New York, then I saw a few blurbs confirming it, then I reported it, that Roger Ailes consults with Hillary, that they fundraise for, that they covertly supported her first campaign for Senate in 2000,
01:14:40.000Then, by about 2003, we were getting reports that every week he was having two, three, four-hour dinners with her at his penthouse, or at her penthouse.
01:16:09.000About how Clinton and Oliver North and all these people and Bush would come into Arkansas, how they were all in business together in narcotics and the CIA.
01:16:21.000I mean, these guys, this is a government operation.
01:16:26.000And there's just thousands of other pieces of evidence.
01:16:30.000But I have said in the last two years, over and over again, I have said, you will see Fox News endorse Hillary Clinton.
01:16:37.000You will hear Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity endorse Hillary Clinton.
01:16:42.000And you will have so-called conservatives, the guys that festoon their cars with Russia's right stickers, because they're so invested in neoconism that they think it's conservatism, that they will rebuke us as liberals for being against Hillary.
01:16:58.000Now, I have said that hundreds of times, like a parrot.
01:17:02.000Ladies and gentlemen, ABC News reporting on Fox News.
01:17:11.000Coulter, I will vote for Hillary over McCain.
01:17:14.000In case you missed it on Hannity and Combs last night, controversial pundit Ann Coulter, by the way, she's a Fox News contributor.
01:17:21.000Who supports Mitt Romney for President, said she would back Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat New York, over Senator John McCain, Republican Arizona.
01:17:30.000She's more conservative than he is, she said.
01:17:33.000She will be stronger on the war on terrorism.
01:17:35.000I will campaign for her if it's McCain.
01:17:39.000Now, McCain's saying, 100-year war, attack everybody, get ready for more wars.
01:17:44.000McCain's wife wears Hillary Clinton pins in this election and the last two elections, the last two the Clintons were involved in.
01:17:58.000The 92 election, the 96 election, and now this election.
01:18:02.000They openly, Bill Clinton, they played the clip on Meet the Press where he says, this is going to be totally friendly, we're family friends.
01:18:11.000So why would Ann Coulter be saying, oh, he's not pro-war, so I'm for Hillary?
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01:23:29.000He blew his mind out in a car He didn't notice that the lights had changed He didn't notice that the lights had changed A crowd of people stood and stared They'd seen his face before Nobody was really sure he was on the house Get ready for all the neocons to worship Hillary
01:24:01.000Prepare that if you don't support the Clintons, you're an evil communist.
01:24:06.000I just won the war A crowd of people turned away There's the elite prepared to install Their little empress Having read the book They're little CIA linguists who revels and shows off detailing every regional accent no matter where she travels.
01:24:32.000It could be Kentucky, it could be London.
01:24:37.000It could be Seattle, it could be Texas.
01:24:40.000Isn't it nice to have government operatives staging elections, running everything?
01:25:01.000Oh, I guess Hillary's good now, because Coulter's such a good conservative.
01:25:06.000Her books are so sophomoric about torture and secret arrest, and Malkin writes books, The Case for Internment Camps, Woolsey's behind McCain.
01:25:16.000We've been down to a Woolsey event here at UT called The New World Order was the lecture where he spoke for an hour about putting people in camps in America.
01:25:23.000Yeah, they're just openly selling us on absolute total martial law.
01:25:30.000They're not doing it because they're not planning to try it.
01:25:34.000I think they're going to let Bush fade out, fade into a deep recession, and then Hillary will come in with an inaugural terror attack.
01:25:42.000And we'll all go, and some people question, could a woman do it?
01:25:46.000But then the terrorist hit us, and hit us hard.
01:25:49.000And after that, the country learned to love her.
01:25:53.000She became like a mother to the nation.
01:25:56.000She dealt strongly with enemies, and didn't allow dissent, because the country had been so badly damaged.
01:26:01.000And in just two short years, brought us out of depression, into an incredible boom time.
01:26:07.000By dollarizing North America, she brought the dollar back up, made alliances with Europe and invaded the Middle East.
01:26:13.000Hillary Clinton, who would have ever thought, once hated by conservatives, is now loved by her.
01:26:19.000Photos of her hang in most conservatives' houses.
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01:32:00.000We're mounting a sustained campaign to crackdown on every American, and every person of every faith, and every nation, and to bring them to justice.
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01:35:22.000Paris, it is a real honor after all these years marveling at your wonderful artistry to have you on the broadcast with us.
01:35:32.000And I don't think of any song out there that's three and a half minutes long that tells as much of the story Uh, as that particular song, but I love all of your music.
01:35:47.000I know this has been a long time coming.
01:35:49.000That song was actually inspired by Road to Tyranny, believe it or not, so...
01:35:56.000Well, we're honored to have you, and just a little bit about yourself, a little bit about some of the music that you've come out with lately.
01:36:02.000We're going to play some of that coming up.
01:36:04.000Also, the website, the organization, you also put out other people's great music and other artists.
01:36:09.000Break that down for us, and then let's get into your political view of what's happening in the world today.
01:36:44.000Was briefly a tech analyst for A major broker dealer.
01:36:48.000I went to college for managerial economics and then was a full-fledged investment banker for a minute, and that funded my ability to be able to do what I do independently.
01:37:02.000Right after 9-11, I was reinvigorated.
01:37:04.000I came out with an album called Sonic G.I.D.E.
01:37:08.000What Would You Do, the song that you just played, is featured on Sonic G.I.D.E.
01:37:14.000And, you know, I have just seen this kind of groundswell of support, and, you know, the realization that the voice that I have speaks for a lot of other people.
01:37:27.000Okay, the website is called GorillaFunk.com, and it was really, it was really, the company itself is called Gorilla Funk, and it was formed as a response to the self-imposed censorship that the entertainment industry had in place.
01:37:43.000They don't want a strong, hardcore political message, do they?
01:37:47.000They just want to show people with a bunch of bling acting silly.
01:39:52.000And, you know, just after doing a lot of independent research and reading on my own, that was really it.
01:39:59.000And then, of course, traveling around the world on these tours, seeing the impact that we have had on other societies.
01:40:06.000And seeing how other people live and what other people believe, you know, I honestly believe that a lot of ignorance can be erased by people just being exposed to more, by people going out, by people seeing and interacting with other people, you know.
01:40:19.000Here's your tax dollars at work, you know.
01:40:23.000And, you know, I've now completely subscribed to the notion that nothing significant happens on the world stage that isn't completely predetermined.
01:40:36.000You know, the concept of manufactured enemy creation is one, I mean I know that you've echoed this sentiment too, is one that's tried and true at this point and it's been proven to be successful over time.
01:40:48.000Well, Roosevelt said that nothing happened by accident.
01:40:56.000That's, I mean, any big, you know, huge event that they get power out of, every time we then have time to back-engineer and find out the facts, they were behind it.
01:41:05.000And now they admit Gulf of Tonkin was staged.
01:41:07.000They admit hundreds of bombings worldwide were staged by criminals in this government.
01:41:11.000Now even E. Howard Hunt, deathbed confession, admitted what we always knew, that he was there running the black op in Dallas to kill JFK.
01:41:19.000On the morning of 9-11, where were you?
01:41:22.000I was trading or getting ready to begin trading, believe it or not.
01:41:27.000I actually did all of my training in the World Trade Center.
01:42:01.000Well, even earlier than that sometimes because I have overseas distributors that I have to deal with.
01:42:04.000So if I have to talk to Japan or France or something, I'm up pretty much all the time.
01:42:13.000So I was getting ready to start trading and that's how the plans hit.
01:42:19.000You know, I got the phone calls and I was trying to reach people that I knew that actually worked at the broker that I used to be affiliated with and couldn't reach anybody and come to find out that they had moved to ING Barrick.
01:42:37.000I mean, what did you first think that, I mean, within 30 minutes they were saying it was Bin Laden.
01:42:42.000I mean, did you have an instinctive feeling it was an inside job or when did you discover that?
01:42:45.000The first plane hit, I thought it was an accident.
01:42:48.000You know, I think a lot of people thought it was an accident, it was a tragedy, and then the second plane hit and all of a sudden the game changed.
01:42:55.000And it took me a minute to process it because I don't really, I'm not really a rush to judgment kind of guy.
01:42:59.000But, you know, knowing what I know of our treacherous history.
01:43:05.000It wasn't a stretch for me to be able to put that together.
01:43:08.000And then I began to see all the postings online and I began to digest the information.
01:43:13.000But I learned about Halliburton and Chaney's Ties and the Carlisle Group and all of that.
01:43:18.000All of it just began to gel, you know, and it wasn't a secret anymore to me.
01:43:25.000By the way, speaking of things gelling, Willie Nelson just called and I couldn't talk to him.
01:43:53.000It's amazing, you know, you look at what we've gained, you know, from from this past administration, and what we've lost, you know, the erosion of our global cloud, and this climate of fear, this ruling by fear, everything that's happened, compromise, compromise, media reporting, immigration, scapegoating, racial intolerance, religious intolerance, you know, housing meltdown, recession, higher gas prices, Greater reduction in funding for social programs.
01:44:25.000You know, and then you have these diversionary kind of arguments about, you know, abortion rights, gay marriage, stuff like that, which really does not affect most people, you know.
01:44:37.000And again, not getting on either side of that, what you're saying is that it's a football issue.
01:44:48.000You know, but then you look at the war profiteering, and you look at, you know, imminent domain seizures, domestic expiring and all this, you know, all these things are in effect, and the effect of them have been ramped up as a result of post 9-11 America.
01:45:03.000We're talking to Paris, more than 4 million records sold, and that's his label, it's GorillaFunk.com.
01:45:09.000Again, sir, I don't want to sit here and grovel to you, I'm not, I just want to tell you that I feel There's very few people I feel this with a kindred spirit because people get mad at me sometimes I get so angry and I grind my teeth and but you talk about Spitting cyanide each and every verse.
01:45:27.000These people are killers, we're talking about.
01:45:43.000We're under attack, and as much attack as I've been under, as much attack as I've seen White people being under, it's nothing, and I'm not saying this because you're black, it's what I talk about on the show, as you know, it's the truth.
01:45:53.000Black people are under the greatest attack of any group, they've had everything tested on them, like Tony Brown says first, and I understand what's done to somebody else can end up happening to me at an instinctive level.
01:46:05.000I am outraged by what I've seen done to Black people, Africans, whatever you want to, you know, human beings.
01:46:12.000I mean, can you speak to being a black American, what it's like growing up in this system and your anger there?
01:46:19.000Well, I mean, you can see the statistics.
01:46:23.000It's pretty much self-explanatory at this point.
01:46:25.000I mean, we've only gone to war with a country, we've gone to war with countries of color pretty much non-stop since World War II.
01:46:38.000Except for the exception probably of Kosovo.
01:46:41.000And you see, every time there's violence visited on people, it's a country of color.
01:46:47.000You see it here, you see it domestically, you see it with Katrina, you see it with, you know, economics and education.
01:46:53.000And, you know, I don't, there's a huge amount of blame that can be placed on society the way it currently exists and on policies and the way they affect people.
01:47:03.000But I'm also of the mind of kind of a self-healing within my own community and to make people realize that we really can't rely on anybody else.
01:47:12.000You've got to step up to the plate and you've got to do it for yourself also.
01:47:14.000So it's a two-pronged approach as far as I'm concerned.
01:47:18.000Well, I agree with that, but when I read Margaret Sanger, the eugenicist, You know, saying we can't let the black weeds know that we want to exterminate them and how they went and hired black leaders to be their fronts.
01:47:30.000Again, they always take a disadvantaged community and test on them.
01:48:00.000I mean, every major political candidate, except for Ron Paul, and they're twisting and demonizing and spinning him.
01:48:08.000Every major political candidate, except for maybe Dennis Kucinich, and he's dropped out on the Democratic side, and they totally ignored him, that's how they control us, is they control the leaders.
01:48:17.000So here we are, with basically an oligarchy type of a situation.
01:48:23.000You know, just Bushes and Clintons since, what, 88?
01:49:20.000I want to come back and talk more about your label, more about your political awakening, and your ideas of getting real leaders to the fore and getting individuals to be individual leaders in their areas.
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01:53:25.000Times in history when more happens in a month than happens in 10 years.
01:53:29.000And Paris, I mean, I've got to give credit where credit is due.
01:53:32.000You Yeah, the decision was pretty much made and stuck with.
01:53:35.0002001, 2002, I forget the date, and it was so hardcore, really before any other artist in any genre had the nerve to come out and do it.
01:53:44.000I mean, did you have to take a deep breath before you did that, or I get the idea you're the type of guy that once you made the decision, you weren't even worried about it.
01:53:52.000Yeah, the decision was pretty much made and stuck with.
01:53:55.000I mean, I got a lot of heat behind that song, and I got a lot, even more heat with the album cover, which is an airliner heading for the White House.
01:54:03.000And there was a lot of backlash at retail, and I ended up having to get distributions for Gorilla Funk from overseas and make all these products available as imports here.
01:54:15.000And then, you know, of course, once we started posting a profit and people started taking a listen, then, you know, here comes Universal and, you know, here comes EMI, which has always been the case.
01:54:24.000You know, it's like people really, really only stand by their convictions.
01:54:29.000I've been fired off radio stations, I've been censored, and I've done it.
01:54:33.000Most people I know, Paris, even if they talk a good game in this quote, movement of liberty, they will turn in a minute for money.
01:55:17.000And you basically just said the same thing, that, hey, this is who I am.
01:55:21.000There's not even a discussion of this.
01:55:23.000What kills me the most is, and I know this has probably happened to you, is people say that you're capitalizing off of people's misery by doing what you do.
01:55:34.000And really, we're commentating on what's happening.
01:55:37.000And, you know, there are no bigger beneficiaries of misery than the government.
01:56:07.000I tell you, Parrish, again, I really do feel, and I'm telling you personally, that we're kindred spirits.
01:56:12.000Yeah, I mean, you know, and the funny thing is I'm pretty left-leaning, you know, but I can find common ground with just about anybody as long as logic is employed, you know, and it just seems like that's something that I don't encounter that much.
01:56:27.000I think people are so emotional and so reactionary nowadays that they can't, you know, we live in an era where People believe what they want to believe.
01:56:35.000You know, the truth can be as plain as the nose on your face.
01:56:38.000Even on TV, you know, in those rare moments where TV is actually truthful.
01:56:43.000And they still gravitate toward what they want to believe.
01:56:45.000Now, that's another key point that you just raised.
01:56:48.000And that is that people, especially these yuppies, they think they can choose what the reality is and that that makes it that way.
01:58:30.000Do you believe the people that live in your hometown?
01:58:33.000Or do you believe these mad dog killers in Washington D.C.?
01:58:37.000Are we setting up a situation where young people who are just starting to come of age are going to have no choice but to either join the military, where there seems to be a lot of money, or to go to jail, where there seems to be a lot of money?
01:59:02.000The fact is that right now, even as we are talking, people are being murdered by UN imperialism throughout the Middle East and throughout the world.
01:59:12.000Our sons and our daughters are out there being used as cannon fodder.
01:59:16.000It's an outrage, and we should stand up and seize the hour and fight back.
01:59:21.000If there is going to be any peace on Earth, it is going to come as a consequence of our people uniting to defeat U.S. imperialism once and for all.
02:01:06.000And tell us, Paris, because we're about to go to break, come back with a long segment, final segment with you, and I want to have you back again, if you'll grace us, with some of the new CDs, some of the MP3s that are out.
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02:06:06.000He's producing head after head with some of the biggest artists out there in multiple genres.
02:06:12.000And he's got some of the most powerful hip-hop slash spoken word, whatever you want to call it, pieces I've ever seen.
02:06:19.000And this is our final segment with him.
02:06:21.000I'm going to twist his arm, get him back on with us in the near future.
02:06:24.000We're going to have some other big guests coming up too in the next week, God willing.
02:06:30.000Parris, I want to play A-Wall, we played Sheep to the Slaughter, but before we do that, we were just now talking about the fact that you've broken through and are now getting distributed by Universal.
02:06:44.000I didn't ask you this question, let me ask you on the air.
02:06:47.000Is it because the internet and alternative distribution systems like the ones you've created that have been so successful, now forcing the big universals to cave in to alternative information?
02:06:57.000Because now my videos are in Blockbuster and Hollywood Video, you know, nothing compared to what you're doing, but I've even seen my stuff break through now, and I've talked to some of the big corporate guys, and they're all, yeah, we know it's true, we know the New World Order's running everything, yeah, yeah, we're trying to sneak your stuff in.
02:07:11.000So it seems like that the facade is starting to collapse.
02:07:16.000Well, yeah, but it's definitely collapsing.
02:07:19.000But I think that, you know, just from a financial standpoint, I think they're really attracted to business models.
02:07:26.000You know, so if you have an operation with really low overhead, you know, you could sell a lot of volume and, you know, you can deliver fairly consistently.
02:07:33.000I think that that's something that they're attracted to.
02:07:35.000I mean, the Antiquated business model of having a record label or film company with, you know, 200 to 300 employees, like a lot of these current subsidiaries have.
02:07:47.000I mean, we've seen that, that's come to an end.
02:07:50.000And again, you know, it's a proven sales history.
02:08:32.000Well, you know, the military industrial complex and the prison industrial complex, I mean, they're working in tandem.
02:08:39.000You're absolutely right about people waking up and becoming more aware, and that is directly attributable to counter-establishment, popular media, like what we create, and to the Internet.
02:08:51.000I mean, the Internet really is the great equalizer of information.
02:08:55.000You can find out pretty much whatever you want to know about anything on the Internet.
02:09:01.000You know, that is something, and the internet is in real time, you know, also.
02:09:04.000So it's not something that you have to wait on to find out stuff about.
02:09:36.000AWOL is another song off of Sonic Jihad, which is my last record, which is a first person narrative of a high school student who encounters military recruiting on campus and all of the lies that they tell him and everything that he goes through and he ends up going for it.
02:14:52.000In the last few minutes we've got, you've got the floor.
02:14:54.000Any other key points or things you want to express to the audience, all the fans and supporters you've got out there?
02:15:00.000Well, that's one thing that I want to acknowledge, is the supporters.
02:15:04.000I never say fans, but I definitely appreciate the support.
02:15:08.000You know, encourage people to support counter-establishment media and to support independent media and independent art, like what Alex is doing, like, you know, like what you're doing and like what I'm doing.
02:15:22.000And I want to say thanks to all the many people that are on MySpace.
02:15:26.000You know, MySpace has been a huge thing for me as well as GorillaFunk.com and to Jonathan Black for hooking up this interview and, you know, to you and Trey and Aaron and everything.
02:15:42.000Going back years, they knew 9-11 was an inside job.
02:15:46.000They knew that we were going into tyranny, but they were scared to speak out like you did.
02:15:50.000How many people do you talk to, I mean, who are well-known, that know the truth, but are scared to go public?
02:15:57.000You know what it is, especially in hip-hop, man, it seems like nobody knows anything.
02:16:01.000I don't encourage anybody to speak out on things that they don't know.
02:16:05.000You know, it's like, you know, you even look worse when you have an opinion and you're not knowledgeable.
02:16:11.000So I encourage everybody to do more independent reading, more independent research, you know, to become more exposed and to travel if you can, if you're of means to be able to travel and go places and experience things that other people are going through.
02:16:23.000You'll have a much clearer idea of what's going on in the world and how our situation in America adversely affects everybody else.
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02:17:06.000And there's no incentive for anybody to see you become knowledgeable.
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02:31:25.000I can't go over his incredibly distinguished military career.
02:31:28.000He heads up being on Veterans Against John McCain.
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02:31:41.000Assigned to operate along the Cambodian border during that year of combat, Sampley was awarded four bronze stars, the Army Commendation Medal, and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry.
02:31:51.000And of course he was in the Green Beret Special Forces.
02:31:53.000In the 1970s, Sampley was reassigned to the 3rd and later the 6th Special Forces group at Fort Bragg where he continued his military training and it just goes on and on.
02:32:33.000I told you that Romney was gonna step down, he's done that today.
02:32:37.000And, uh, that's exactly what Larry Nichols, who helped bring out the first, uh, Scandals on the Clintons and many others is saying as well.
02:32:44.000He's waiting in the wings to pop in and make some comments.
02:33:16.000It changes, it turns the color of the limb he's on at the time and he gets away with it.
02:33:22.000Because he forever has had the liberal talking heads in this country.
02:33:27.000The Tim Russerts and Chris Matthews, that crowd adore him and cannot say enough good about him.
02:33:33.000And they have built this false image of a POW resistor hero.
02:33:40.000If you go back and read his record very clearly, at the best you can give John McCain was he was a POW survivor who traded inflammation for better medical care and other special gifts at the best you can give John McCain was he was a POW survivor who So he collaborated very seriously.
02:34:32.000And I got up and kind of tagged along behind him, and he just outpaced me, so I just went on about my way.
02:34:37.000But the real concern was in 1992, during the Senate Select Committee on POW Affairs, that Senate study that the Senate commissioned, it took 18 months to study and report on what happened to the American servicemen known to have been alive in captivity, but not returned at the end of the war.
02:34:59.000McCain, you would think, would be the best friend of the families of the men still missing and left behind.
02:35:05.000He turned out to be a noise best friend.
02:35:09.000And we started looking closely and he had for some time been carrying water for the Communist Vietnamese.
02:35:14.000Trying to pass legislation or get legislation passed that would open the door to give communist Vietnam normalized relations.
02:35:22.000Something that we didn't want until the communist Vietnamese fessed up for what they did with our men.
02:35:27.000And that's why he worships them and they call him a songbird, is because they've got all the dirt on him.
02:35:37.000And not only do the Vietnamese communists have it, the Chinese have it, the former Soviets, which would be the Russian intelligentsia, have it.
02:35:44.000The Cubans have it, and there was even some Palestinian involvement as observers in observing the interrogation of American prisoners of war.
02:35:53.000Could you call him the ultimate security risk if he was going to be the Commander-in-Chief?
02:35:57.000Absolutely, and when one other entity has it, the CIA knows what he did.
02:36:01.000So there's a man that at the slightest threat, that if any of those collaborations, the seriousness of them is made public, He'll go under, so he's going to have to bend when the CIA tells him to bend.
02:36:15.000Let's bring Larry Nichols in here because he's an expert on this and he was involved in black ops as well.
02:36:20.000Larry, you were talking earlier, this is exactly who they love.
02:37:08.000I was also trained in what to try to achieve with a prisoner.
02:37:13.000And one of the things you want to achieve is to neutralize them and then control them.
02:37:18.000And the way you do that is you get them to do something they're not supposed to or get them to do something against one of the other prisoners, and then you hold that over his head.
02:37:28.000Well, I'm going to tell this other prisoner you're the one that told on him and he caused him to get the mess beat out of him if you don't tell me some more.
02:37:35.000He has to keep talking and keep talking and keep talking.
02:37:38.000That's the position that McCain is in when it comes to what happened in the Hanoi Hilton.
02:37:44.000And there's no doubt they're still controlling him today.
02:37:47.000Well, he went back to Vietnam in front of witnesses.
02:37:49.000And Bob Doran, former Congressman Bob Doran, would tell you this.
02:37:54.000McCain said to the Vietnamese in front of him, if you ever release my files, you'll never see normalized relations.
02:38:01.000Then he came back to the United States and used his authority as a Senator to get all the POW records sealed.
02:38:10.000How many men at that time when he got those sealed do we know were left behind?
02:38:13.000The number has varied depending on who's counting, but Senator Bob Smith and former Congressman Billy Hendon, they're coming up with the numbers that could be as two or three hundred.
02:38:24.000We know there was a second tier of prisoners, a secret tier, That none of the other prisoners knew about.
02:38:30.000The Soviets were very interested in our pilots because at that time our pilots were zooming in and getting through the SAM system, the missile system.
02:38:38.000That was the same system that was defending Moscow.
02:38:41.000And so they were very interested in what they could get out of these pilots.
02:39:01.000He got a silver star, and I can trace it.
02:39:03.000The dates he got the silver star, I read the citation, were the same dates that he, quote-unquote, was trading military information for better medical care.
02:39:14.000Well, his daddy was the head of the Pacific Fleet.
02:39:17.000And his granddaddy was a famous admiral also.
02:40:07.000We are planning right now a counter-offensive, and we're going online on the internet probably tomorrow or the next day, but we're opening an offensive called GOP Tea Party.
02:40:20.000And in the spirit of 1773, when the colonists rebelled against the King of England and tossed all that tea over, we're going to rebel against the Republican Party, and we're going to toss McCain over.
02:40:30.000We hope to make it so hot for McCain between now and September, the convention, that this Republican establishment is really going to be rethinking this thing.
02:43:42.000You know, I was just reading a McHale-Malcolm article Well, she connects John McCain and his Reform Institute to that multi-million dollar, what is it, Soros?
02:45:34.000He is the Vice President of Rolling Thunder Motorcycle Rally, Washington, D.C.
02:45:39.000I mean, you guys have gotten how many people out on their motorcycles many times?
02:45:42.000Well, this past Memorial Day weekend, we probably had 600,000.
02:45:45.000600,000, that has turned into, and I'm one of the founders of Rolling Thunder, and that's turned into one of the largest special events, annual special events in Washington, D.C.
02:45:57.000They look forward to it because the vets come in and they're all there for the POW.
02:46:03.000And do you have a way of emailing or letting them all know, or do they already know?
02:46:07.000The organization is a nonprofit organization, so we have to be very careful about that.
02:46:12.000But word of mouth to get around, and people can act individually, but as an organization, we cannot come out and do something like political.
02:46:22.000But at Vietnam Veterans Against McCain, which is VietnamVeteransAgainstJohnMcCain.com, and we'll get links to that up on the websites, people could get in there and expose him.
02:46:37.000We're getting plenty of people reading our website.
02:46:39.000It's gotten off to a small start, like a pebble tossed out in a little pond, and a little ripple started, but it's getting bigger and bigger.
02:46:46.000And so it is similar to what happened when we went up against John Kerry.
02:46:49.000We were the first to open up on John Kerry.
02:47:46.000We know if we can move from five to ten percent of the Republicans that normally vote to say, I'm not going to vote for McCain, that will cause McCain to lose and the Republicans to lose.
02:48:01.000The Republican establishment knows that, and if they see that coming into the convention, they're going to have to do some tap dancing, and we hope they're going to eject With Jenison John McCain.
02:48:11.000And then have a brokered convention and get somebody else.
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02:51:43.000I want to thank Larry Nichols for spending time with us today.
02:51:51.000We're going to have a final word from him in a moment.
02:51:55.000And I hope that you'll take his words very serious.
02:51:58.000You weren't taking calls during this interview and I had a call into the board.
02:52:02.000Somebody got the back line going, this guy is incredible, blah, blah, blah.
02:52:05.000I've checked out everything he's talking about.
02:52:07.000And you just, I guess, weren't around during the whole Clinton scandals, okay?
02:52:11.000This guy had the media go over him with a fine-toothed comb.
02:52:13.000He's the guy that released all the big scandals.
02:52:17.000He did do the things he said he did, and I want to say something to the Free Republic people, and even some of the World Night Daily folks, and all of them that have sold out to the neocons, that think all this is cute.
02:52:27.000You've been gamed by the puppet masters, as Larry says.
02:52:32.000As much as I like this other group going after McCain, and he is bad, they're putting him in.
02:52:37.000And they mean for him to fail, and for Ann Coulter to now endorse Hillary, and for that to happen.
02:52:43.000Now, we can shoot down McCain early, and I hate to play lesser of two evils.
02:52:47.000I mean, Huckabee, even though he's CFR, would be better than this guy.
02:52:51.000I mean, you can't get any worse than McCain.
02:54:14.000Well, Larry, I'm not going to wait five years to have you back on.
02:54:16.000I want to get you back up in the next few weeks, because you're the Clinton expert, and I just really appreciate all the fine work that you've done, my friend.
02:54:24.000Go ahead and give out your number for other talk shows that may want to interview you.
02:54:26.000you 501-329-1159 thank you so much Larry Nichols, take care.
02:55:14.000And some of the greatest assets we have are people that work for the system, who when they saw dead children, that's always the story we get, just finally had their Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus moment.
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02:56:07.000They're bringing in martial law, they're bringing down the country.
02:56:14.000I agree with him, the economic attack is as worse as any terror attack.