Big Brother? Mainstream media? Government cover-ups? You want answers? Well, so does he. He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network and now, live from Austin, Texas, on the 26th of February 2008.
00:01:00.000Just a couple nights ago, she got the Academy Award for Best Documentary, 2008, Taxi to the Dark Side, about rendition, secret arrest, and the torture camps.
00:01:15.000And in my goings and comings and travels, Eva Orner called me, I guess, about eight months ago and came with a documentary film crew, the same folks that made a lot of famous films.
00:02:50.000So very, very powerful information And then, of course, this weekend I saw a 9-11 blogger blurb from, it was actually from Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth.
00:03:02.000One of their members was at an event and saw Willie Nelson's daughter, Paula Nelson, who's a great musician and singer in her own right, at an event and said, hey, do you agree with your dad's statement?
00:03:14.000She said, oh yeah, I agree with it, of course.
00:03:17.000And so I thought, why not just have her on?
00:03:21.000I've thought about having her on a few weeks ago, but I thought, you know, I'll give the Nelsons a rest.
00:03:25.000We've had her dad on twice, but... Today, right now, we're going to get the Dixie Chicks on.
00:03:31.000We're going to get some other folks on as well.
00:03:35.000We'll talk about the war, a lot of other issues we're lining up right now.
00:03:39.000Some other really big guests as well, but they're coming up later today.
00:03:42.000We will have Paula Nelson on at the show, talk about her dad, her own career, What it's like being Willie Nelson's daughter, what it's like being a musician who speaks out politically, plays some of her songs as well, that is coming up later in the show today, on this Tuesday 26th of February 2008.
00:04:10.000In the meantime, trader Greenspan urges Gulf states to abandon the dollar Alan Greenspan has again exposed himself as a trader working against the interest of the American people by urging Gulf states to abandon the dollar peg, a move that could result in financial chaos and an economic depression in the United States.
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00:08:33.000And, of course, Paula Nelson, one of the prominent children of Willie Nelson, a great musician and vocalist in her own right, joining us in the third hour today.
00:08:44.000Trader Greenspan urges Gulf States to abandon the dollar.
00:08:49.000You know, that's quite a headline by Paul Watson up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.
00:08:57.000It's an amazing headline, and that's actually what he said.
00:09:02.000And the implications of that... All we have left in this country is our fiat currency.
00:09:08.000I mean, 80 plus percent of our industrial base has been moved overseas.
00:09:15.000Debt, corporate private government is leveraged at all-time highs.
00:09:21.000We are on the verge of economic collapse.
00:09:25.000According to the majority of experts, financial forecasters, we're hoping for just a deep recession and not a financial calamity.
00:09:36.000We've been talking a lot about that the last few years here, as this perfect storm came together.
00:09:42.000But to have Greenspan come out and encourage Arabs to move away from the dollar, which will precipitate its downfall, is so they can fully wreck it and then dollarize, is how they're going to term it, in the future, the North American and then the entire Pan-American Western Hemisphere, and claim, oh, we had to reorganize the dollar and put it to an international peg to rebuild it, which is the trilateral plan for now more than 30 years.
00:11:12.000Alan Greenspan has again exposed himself as a traitor working against the interests of the American people by urging Gulf states to abandon the dollar peg, a move that could result in financial chaos and an economic depression in the United States.
00:11:24.000The dollar peg mandates Gulf nations to price their assets in U.S.
00:11:31.000monetary policy at a time when the Fed is cutting interest rates, a system that has produced a boom in oil revenue but led to high inflation as the dollar weakens.
00:11:41.000Well, if they move off the dollar peg, it'll only make the dollar weaken even more, and will, quote, cost us more oil.
00:11:49.000If you gotta love the mainstream media spin, Paul's basically quoting it there.
00:11:56.000The most useful thing that can be done to stop the increasing influence of foreign assets on the monetary system, and therefore the monetary base, which is basically the major force in inflationary pressures, Greenspan told the Abu Dhabi Corporate Leadership Forum yesterday.
00:12:14.000This is all quoted out of the Financial Times of London, AP, everybody carried it.
00:12:20.000So he's saying, you know, oil's $100 a barrel because the dollar's been devalued And you guys are pricing oil in dollars.
00:12:29.000Well, just take it off of dollars and price it in Euros or price it in a currency that's worth more per unit.
00:12:37.000Well, you'll still have just as expensive oil if they price it at the equivalent of 62 Euros instead of $100.
00:12:45.000But if they do that, It'll actually just make the dollar even lose more favor and then lose more confidence and lose more value.
00:12:56.000And then we'll probably be paying $120 a barrel, which is what the elite wants.
00:12:59.000So Greenspan, this is like going to someone who's sick, who's got a toe chopped off and chopping their entire foot off.
00:13:10.000This is just basic monetary, basic economic information.
00:13:15.000But the general public, Can't find the U.S.
00:14:07.000In the short term, free floating will not fully Disappoint inflationary pressure, though it would significantly do so.
00:14:19.000According to economist editor Paul Woodall, Greenspan's comments heralded the beginning of the end of the U.S.
00:14:24.000dollar as a currency of choice for foreign exchange reserves.
00:14:28.000In Asia, central banks hold today more than 80% of the global foreign exchange reserves, which indicate the shift of the global economy domination towards Asia.
00:14:37.000It seems quite awkward that the UAE still maintains the peg of its currency to the U.S.
00:15:35.000This is Greenspan literally trying to... The dollar is like a drowning man or drowning woman fighting to get air, struggling every minute or so to get one quick gulp of air and being pushed back under by the global architects of the financial infrastructure.
00:15:57.000And now the dollar's been underwater about four minutes, water's going into our lungs, we're starting to pass out, And we have one chance to get to the shore, get a gulp of air, get to shore, and Greenspan literally has basically taken a hammer and hit the drowning person on the head.
00:16:15.000I do not have words to explain how devastating this is, how evil this is.
00:16:23.000How, over the top, we will be completely, financially destroyed.
00:16:29.000And by the way, every financial expert we've interviewed, even mainline analysts, say that if the dollar plunges another 20% even, they're talking about more now, depending on the expert, 20-30%, if it does that, it will bring down other currencies.
00:16:49.000Anybody who wondered whether the central bankers And the big banks that are out there, you know, rating junk as AAA and selling securities and selling credit card debt, they bundle that and then sell it as some wonderful security when it's horrible debt, very dangerous, especially at this time in history, historically very bad investments.
00:17:22.000You've got 40 plus percent inflation the last couple years combined with people on fixed incomes in red-level crisis already.
00:17:29.000All of this is cascading now into businesses and companies in the service industry and into the automobile industry, the manufacturing durable value-added goods.
00:17:43.000And Greenspan Well, I mean, he's been doing this now for the last year, coming out and bad-mouthing the dollar, coming out and saying bad things about the dollar, coming out and saying bad things about the economy.
00:17:55.000This is just... I'm actually dumbfounded right now.
00:18:19.000Greenspan's zeal to destroy the dollar is evident in numerous public statements he has made predicting the replacement of the dollar with the euro as the world's reserve currency.
00:18:28.000The former Fed chairman has repeatedly bad-mouthed the dollar and hyped the inevitability of economic chaos at a time when market confidence is in the toilet.
00:18:39.000Greenspan's rhetoric matches that of the IMF, who in October of last year brazenly slammed the dollar as it overvalued at the same time the greenback hit its all-time low against the euro.
00:18:51.000A decision on behalf of the Gulf states to abandon the dollar peg would have disastrous consequences for the greenback and the American economy.
00:18:59.000Such a move could lead the likes of the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia To diversify their foreign exchange holdings out of dollars.
00:19:08.000This will amount to a vote of no confidence in the dollar and may cause other countries with large dollar reserves, may cause, it's already happening, such as China and Japan to follow suit and begin dumping the green back in mass.
00:19:18.000They've already been doing it, but yeah, they would accelerate that.
00:19:24.000And the public is so ignorant and so ill-informed that you ought, you're going to be at the Church, or golf course, or the mall, or family.
00:19:35.000When we're in a depression, hearing them tell you about how Greenspan's working to save us.
00:19:41.000They just need to be slapped upside the head.
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00:24:28.000I'd just like to thank Alex Gibney, actually, for taking such a chance and being so brave to make this film at a time when people said this film should not be made.
00:24:35.000I'm incredibly proud and honoured to be here as only one of two Australians nominated this year.
00:24:41.000And I'd actually like to take the time to thank all the participants in the film and all the servicemen who risked a lot by coming to New York and telling their story after they'd already had such a hard time with this current administration's policies.
00:24:55.000It was really brave of them and hopefully people will watch the film and think things should change.
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00:33:03.000Here are the headlines on Australian wins documentary Oscar, Eva Horner.
00:36:37.000We were so hoping we were going to win because It's such an important film, and all of the documentary nominees this year, out of five films, four of them were war-related films.
00:36:48.000There was a film about Iraq, No End in Sight, there was Operation Homecoming about the soldiers, and it was a great acknowledgement from the Academy that something is wrong with this country.
00:36:58.000And the Academy is a very conservative force, so it was really a great vindication and validation of all of our work.
00:37:05.000We were concerned that, because of all the films, ours is the darkest, it's about torture, You know, it's incredibly critical of the administration.
00:37:27.000And, you know, he's been making films for a long time.
00:37:29.000He made Enron, Smartest Guys in the Room.
00:37:31.000He was nominated for another Oscar a couple of years ago.
00:37:33.000And we're so thrilled because he's so deserving.
00:37:36.000He's one of the best filmmakers working in the country today.
00:37:39.000It was great vindication and validation, and you know, it was really fun.
00:37:45.000Well, you've done an incredible job as the producer, the head honcho over the whole deal, and I'm just blessed and lucky to have ever even bumped into you, even because you're so smart and such a sweet person.
00:37:56.000You also have the clip, we had Professor Kassel on a few years ago when this first came out, Uh, you know, the clip where John Yoo writes in these memos about crushing children's testicles and vulnerable parents, and then Professor Castle at a closed CFR meeting, uh, even the CFR's mad at him in Chicago.
00:38:12.000You're not supposed to record it, but Castle did.
00:38:15.000And Yoo just says, yeah, the President has that authority.
00:38:19.000I mean, immersing yourself in this film, you guys started working on this film back when it still wasn't kosher to get into this type of topic, back when the regime was still riding high to a certain extent.
00:38:34.000So tell us about the process of deciding to make this film.
00:38:38.000When it began, all these locations, I mean, it's such an incredible film, getting to interview some of the guards that did the torture, people who were convicted and sent to jail, but you have the memos and documents where they were ordered to do it, I mean, just basically the process, Eva.
00:38:54.000When the film started, we finished the film about a year ago, and it's been on the festival circuit for the year, and it obviously has just been released, but, you know, we started making it a year and a half ago before that, so it's really a two and a half year process.
00:39:06.000And the film came out of some conversations with Alex Kidney, the director, and a couple of extraordinary people who became executive producers and actually put a lot of money into the film when no one else would.
00:39:16.000And it came out of a conversation about what is going on in this country.
00:39:20.000Things are being reported in the New York Times and the Washington Post.
00:39:32.000The Geneva Conventions are being disregarded, and it was just this conversation that was just about rage, and it was a conversation involving patriotic Americans who were so disturbed by what was happening to their country.
00:39:45.000And, you know, people have branded the film anti-American, and it's the complete opposite.
00:39:49.000It's about the preservation of what made America great and what America should be.
00:39:54.000So, you know, a couple of the executive producers, one was Rob Johnson, who used to be, you know, a right-hand man of George Soros.
00:40:00.000Another one was John Glasgow, who's an incredible human rights attorney.
00:40:03.000Sidney Blumenthal, who was one of Bill Clinton's policy advisors in the Clinton administration.
00:40:09.000These people all came forward early on and, you know, they put their money where their mouths were and really helped us out because we were having trouble getting distributors to put money up on the film.
00:40:18.000You know, Alex's previous film was incredibly successful, Enron, as I said, and a lot of people were saying, Is this really the follow-up film you want to make to Enron?
00:40:40.000So that was sort of the genesis of the film.
00:40:42.000And then from there, you know, we gathered, as you know with documentaries, we gathered a small and very hardworking crew of people.
00:40:51.000Um, you know, we had one researcher, we had another producer, you know, it was a team of like six people and it was really about getting access, getting information, you know, using a lot of archival material, which you know is hard to source, and really convincing people to, uh, to talk on this film and to be a part of this film.
00:41:10.000So that was, that was, you know, the initial process.
00:41:13.000Did you, I mean I'm, of course you learned a lot making the film, did you ever get really creeped out?
00:41:21.000It was, I think we all say often, it was really, um, it was the hardest film I think any of us have ever made.
00:41:28.000I mean, you know, the material's grueling.
00:41:30.000You know what it's like when you're in an edit suite looking at horrible material.
00:41:33.000You know, we got a lot of classified photographs that nobody had seen before from Abu Ghraib.
00:41:38.000The thing that I find the most disturbing in the film is actually there's some, there's just some cell phone video from inside the prisons of prisoners smashing their heads against walls and collapsing.
00:41:48.000And I mean, It's just so brutal and so inhumane and unhuman.
00:41:53.000It's just, you know, it's hard to be around that kind of material all the time.
00:41:58.000One of the, it sounds so silly, but one of the saving graces of us making this film and keeping our sanity was we were making another film at the same time, which was a lot lighter in subject about, it just premiered at Sundance in competition, and it's about Hunter S. Thompson, the great writer.
00:42:14.000And, you know, we were able to sort of bounce between the projects a little bit because, you know, a year and a half being immersed in torture and your failing country is very hard to take.
00:42:25.000You bring away from the film, with the eyewitnesses, the documents, the death certificates, that the White House, with the memos, the orders, the systematic, whether it was in Cuba or Iraq, at Guantanamo Bay, where our government has a base, or in Afghanistan, That it was all the same standard torture, the same sensory deprivation, hanging people from the tops of their cells for days on end.
00:42:51.000All of this, beating people until they're, according to coroner's reports, liquefied, the tissue in their bodies, literally turning them into jello.
00:43:01.000And then, to have the White House send people to prison, who they ordered to do this, but then, that was enlisted people, but promote The individuals, the officers who were actually above it, and the one lady who ran it in Iraq and Afghanistan, they send her to the interrogation training base, and now she's over the training?
00:43:24.000I mean, to know that the White House ordered all this, and then when they got caught, they said, oh no, we're not behind this.
00:43:32.000And of course, you also point out how 24 has created a constituency for torture, how they're brainwashing.
00:43:41.000I mean, you know, I think the villains of the film obviously are George Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, John Yoo and Gonzales.
00:43:48.000But, you know, the big criminal, I'm ashamed to say, is a woman called Carolyn Wood, who obviously did not interview for the film and has done absolutely no media.
00:43:56.000And, you know, she went from prison to prison enforcing these torture methods.
00:44:01.000And as you say now, you know, her punishment for This great violation of human rights and, you know, the American way is to be, you know, to end up in a training, an interrogation training military facility.
00:44:12.000So, you know, she's a complete villain.
00:44:16.000And I guess the most interesting thing, one of the most interesting things in the film is, you know, a bunch of these young officers, these ex-military guys that we have in the film who are young.
00:44:24.000I think it's fair to say a lot of them aren't overly educated and certainly weren't educated in the ways of the military.
00:44:30.000And they were thrown into these situations where they were Untrained interrogators, some of them had never come across the Geneva Conventions, and that's what the higher-ups wanted.
00:44:38.000And they were put into these incredible situations of stress, of fear of terrorism in America, that was placed on their shoulders, and they had to get information by any means possible, often from innocent people who had just been picked up in the fields of Afghanistan.
00:44:56.000And what's so interesting is we managed to get a number of these people to talk to us and I think they're the heroes of the film because they're so brave and they're so honest and they know they did the wrong thing but they're also willing to talk about the fact that they're misguided and you know when you're put into a bad situation people do bad things.
00:45:12.000Well you also captured the essence you also captured in the film the essence and this is the point we've always made from guests and witnesses that we've had on just in a radio format That this was the White House and their technocrats seducing the military, seducing the public, really trying to sell us on the most barbarous forms of torture and everything in your film is documented.
00:45:36.000In fact, I think it I don't want to say it's soft, it's horrible, it's about as hardcore as it can get, but, you know, reality is even several steps deeper and worse.
00:45:44.000Like the Army Zone report from General Togumbo, where they admit raping the people, using acid with large objects.
00:45:51.000I mean, I can't even get into it on air, but this is even on MSNBC.
00:45:55.000So as bad as the film is, I want people to understand, and it was very upsetting even to me, I got tears in my eyes several times, studying this, Studying torture in the last 10 years, knowing our government for decades has been training the world how to torture, I think it makes the film even stronger that you guys, I know, could have even made it more hardcore.
00:46:15.000And the CIA admits, we've had the former section chief on, That they wouldn't arrest real Al-Qaeda or Taliban.
00:46:22.000In fact, Taliban and Al-Qaeda would go just grab goat herders and turn them over and get $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 in some cases.
00:46:31.000And the bases even knew that they were innocent, but they would then send them on after being tortured out of Afghanistan, out of Iraq, to Camp X-Ray in Cuba to keep the cover-up going.
00:46:55.000And one of the examples of that is, in order to tell this story in a cinematic and interesting way, we had to find a story and a metaphor for what this government is doing and what torture can do to people.
00:47:06.000And we found that in the story of Gilawah, who's this young Afghani cab driver who's innocently picked up and And sent to Bagram where he's, as you say, he's pulpified to death essentially.
00:47:17.000He's beaten by the military and he ends up dead.
00:47:23.000He was driving with two other people who were both innocent.
00:47:26.000And they were actually, after Dillawar died, they were sent on for absolutely no reason.
00:47:30.000It was proven that they were innocent and they were sent to Guantanamo where they remained for a couple of years.
00:47:35.000They've since been released and returned to Afghanistan.
00:47:37.000But it was just about filling up this facility.
00:47:40.000It was about saving space for the government.
00:47:42.000It was about You know, getting 500 men with dark skin and showing them to the world in orange jumpsuits as terrorists, and it's just, it's incomprehensible to me, and it's incomprehensible to me that some of the Republican, you know, frontrunners, who are no longer, thank goodness, in the upcoming elections, you know, we're saying we need to double the size of Guantanamo, you know, based on what, this incredible success?
00:48:07.000I mean, come on, it's just, It just doesn't make any sense, you know, having made this film and being so okay with all of this material.
00:48:17.000Well, Eva, your film's been done for a year, but it's very timely now because they're going to try a bunch of these people who have no connection to 9-11, and after six years of incarceration and torture, even mainstream news is saying, you can't believe anything they say, and then these trials aren't even real trials.
00:48:35.000So now we're going to have kangaroo courts six years later?
00:48:39.000Well, and the death penalty is what they're going for.
00:48:43.000And, and, you know, we have a number of human rights attorneys in the film and they talk about the fact that they had no access to their clients for many years and how preposterous that was.
00:48:51.000And one of my favorite comments and one of my favorite characters is Clive Stafford Smith, who's an English human rights attorney.
00:48:58.000And he says, you know, when I was studying in America, I hadn't, I, it just, it never crossed my mind that I would be having trouble to get access to my clients and that my clients would have no rights to a trial.
00:49:08.000I mean, it's just, It's just, it just makes no sense.
00:49:12.000It's the same kind of thought for me as, you know, when I was, I'm 38 years old, and when I was studying, and I'm Australian, and when I was studying in Australia, legal studies, learning about these great precedent cases like Roe versus Wade, and suddenly, you know, 25, 30 years later, there's a possibility that they'll be turned over, and it just, it just doesn't make sense.
00:49:30.000It seems so, it seems like the world's a little, a little backwards these days.
00:49:35.000Well, what they do is, and you point this out, they get everybody into fear, And then they try to set the precedent to be able to torture children.
00:49:43.000In fact, let's go ahead and you've got two different John Yoo clips.
00:49:56.000The argument I'm making about adaptation of the rules is a question of what the United States should use as a matter of international law, which I treat as being a separate and distinct law as well from domestic violence.
00:50:06.000So in other words, if the president deems that he's got the torture center, including by crushing the testicles of the person's child, there is no law that can stop that.
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00:54:38.000Eva Horner is coming straight on for the Neocon Bush Administration.
00:54:43.000She's in papers all over the world, saying war criminals run our government.
00:54:48.000And if we don't bring them to justice, it'll then be in our name.
00:54:51.000And people will see Americans as the Germans were seen after Hitler.
00:54:58.000I mean, this is hardcore murder of innocent people who they knew were innocent, literally just to have the illusion, while Bush is saying, don't go after bin Laden, Who he supposedly said attacked us.
00:55:09.000Meanwhile, let's take some, you know, 15, 13, in some cases, year old kids.
00:55:43.000I mean, oh God, what is the most chilling part?
00:55:46.000You know, to me, it's really the images.
00:55:51.000It's really, well, you know, it's actually, you know what the saddest thing to me in the whole film is, is at the end of the film when you find out, you know, the state of the number of soldiers who were involved in, you know, in torture and brutal interrogation techniques and when you see what happened to their lives and, you know, you see that these kids in their 20s, usually from the South, I think it's fair to say, You know, their lives are ruined.
00:56:12.000One of them says that, you know, financially he's ruined, he can't get a job, he's, you know, they've spent time in military prison.
00:56:19.000And these are the victims of the administration.
00:56:21.000And, you know, and everyone else who's going to leave this current administration that already has goes on to prestigious jobs and nothing happens to them.
00:56:29.000And I guess that's why I've been saying that, branding them as war criminals in the media, because that's what war criminals do.
00:56:35.000They commit acts of atrocity and they get away with it.
00:56:38.000I think that's probably, you know, aside from all the images of torture and all of the terrible images that we see, I really think it's these innocent people who signed up, who served our country, unlike most of the people in the current administration, who then got scapegoated and ended up in prison.
00:56:59.000Speaking of that, Eva, I remember, I was even in the Associated Press and other news wires a few years ago, One of the guards in Afghanistan, a private contractor who tortured people to death, he was about to blow the whistle and said, look, we were ordered to and then they used the Patriot Act on him to shut him up.
00:57:21.000You know, it's just incredible evil to me.
00:57:23.000I mean, I think another thing that's really worth talking about is the fact that, you know, we're all obviously, you know, pretty far on the left side, all of us filmmakers, but it was really important for us to make this not a left-wing, you know, propaganda piece.
00:57:35.000And so one of the things we were very cautious and careful to do was to try and get, you know, insiders in the Republican side of the country to talk.
00:57:44.000And, you know, people like Alberta Moira, who's the former Navy General Counsel, And he was very much behind stopping what was going on at Abu Ghraib.
00:57:53.000So I just think it's really worth letting audiences know that this is not a propaganda piece.
00:58:00.000No, I'm going to say right now, as bad as it is, there's actually even a lot more stuff that's even worse.
00:58:07.000I mean, I'm sure you came across the Army report where they admitted that 98 percent That are sent to Abu Ghraib, were picked up at checkpoints for not having proper papers, and that women were raped in front of their husbands.
00:58:22.000And I mean, that's what happened to our lead guy, who was murdered.
00:58:24.000I mean, and it's also, it's very much, you know, the reason we know about these stories is because of the incredible people on the ground in Afghanistan working for the papers in America.
00:58:34.000You know, people like Carlisle De Gaulle, who discovered the Gilawai story.
00:59:25.000And if they're able to get away with torture and creating a constituency for torture and selling us that it's okay, it's over.
00:59:31.000And now we see police nationwide, copycatting, abuse has gone up in the prisons.
00:59:36.000Eva, you know, your film really points all this out.
00:59:42.000We really have been seduced over to the dark side.
00:59:45.000I think we're pulling away from it now.
00:59:47.000That's why I just think this is one of the most powerful films, documentaries I've ever seen because I think I know it all about this stuff and I'm immersed in it, but I became very upset and I hardly ever feel almost panicked, but it was just exactly like some of the cell phone video inside the torture facilities.
01:01:00.000And hopefully that will affect the elections later in the year.
01:01:04.000And also, you know, the other thing you talk about is, you know, just how what's been going on in the country has affected popular culture.
01:01:09.000And you mentioned 24 earlier in the show, and it's funny, I had never ever watched 24 before we did this film.
01:01:18.000You know, there was a weekend and I took home a couple of box sets of the whole series, and I was just... I mean, everyone loved this show.
01:01:25.000People I knew loved this show, and I watched it, and I was just outraged.
01:01:30.000And we used... I'm so happy that we used a clip in the film to explain what a ridiculous notion the ticking time bomb scenario is.
01:01:37.000Because I've seen it in law enforcement magazines long before 9-11 they were selling police on this that there's a bomb about to go off do you torture the person's child to get answers and then in 24 they actually have that plot.
01:01:51.000I just love it because again I've mentioned already Clive Stafford Smith is this incredibly UK based Human Rights Lawyer, he says, you know, and it's so great as he tells the story in the film, we show the footage on 24 and he says, you know, there's a terrorist and he's got a bomb in Times Square and he's about to kill a million people.
01:02:11.000So are we allowed to strap the electrodes to his testicles to get him to talk?
01:02:17.000And we have a scene sort of mimicking that in 24.
01:02:19.000And then Clive says rightly, well that's all just fine, but when in the last 500 years have we ever been in a situation where a bomb is about to go off and we have the culprit?
01:02:28.000And also, if we do, that man or woman is going to be so committed that no matter what we do to them, they're not going to talk.
01:02:34.000So it's just this pathetic, false way to get around a loophole and make torture a viable option.
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01:08:31.000But I can't enjoy any of this, quote, success because I'm constantly freaked out by the fact that we're putting poison in our water, they are destroying our currency, they're about to start World War III, but all I can do is fight back then.
01:08:44.000I mean, everybody I know says, why aren't you happy?
01:08:50.000Why are you always obsessed with this stuff?
01:08:51.000How could you not be obsessed with a pack of psychopathic killers running the world government, setting up world taxes, trying to sell us on torture, Well, they won the Academy Award exposing how the White House ordered torture.
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01:09:40.000I've been here vitriolically talking about everybody's waking up and we're exposing these people, but we put an article up today, several articles up today, where I'm trying to find the article.
01:09:55.000I read it at the start of the first hour.
01:10:02.000Greenspan, two days ago, and it just hit the news today, gave a speech to the Association That makes up the grouping of all the Arab OPEC members.
01:10:15.000And he said, go ahead and get rid of the dollar.
01:10:17.000Please, you know, drop the dollar as the peg.
01:10:21.000And then he said, it's going to help us with inflation here.
01:10:25.000And according to everything I know about basics of economics, if they dump the dollar, and countries are already moving away, that's going to precipitate an even faster slide And according to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts and Joseph Stiklitz and Bob Chapman and, I mean, how many experts have we had on?
01:10:44.000All we've got left is the dollar, and just last week, Dr. Roberts, former Wall Street Journal editor, the father of economics, head of the Treasury, he said here that Depression, total collapse if the dollar collapses.
01:10:59.000And he said if the dollar can just hold, it's kind of a mediocre currency, we may just slide into a five-year recession.
01:12:03.000They've abandoned any premise, possibility of the dollar continuing as a world monetary unit.
01:12:12.000And how far it goes down remains to be seen.
01:12:15.000But when you spoke of inflation and what Mr. Greenspan said about inflation, That is absolutely and thoroughly incorrect.
01:12:26.000Because if the dollar continues to fall, because it's not going to be a reserve currency anymore, and countries won't have to hold large amounts of it, then that currency will enter the marketplace in one form or another, whether it's being used to buy stocks or properties or gold or silver or whatever, when it hits the market, it's going to be more inflationary than we have already, and we're already at 12%.
01:12:54.000Now, Bob Chapman, am I correct in saying, because I don't want to miss the forest for the trees, but it seems like this is literally an elementary, kindergarten-level, economic 101
01:13:07.000That if the dollar continues to tank, that's the cause of the inflation, is because they devalued it by over-issuance of the currency, liquidity, and the credit, and sold all this bad debt, and that having the bag handed back to us will only accelerate its destruction and our standard of living.
01:13:28.000I mean, how can he get up there and say, A tanking dollar is good for inflation.
01:14:44.000They've known since 2002, when they made the turn at the corner and then the Middle East blew up in their face.
01:14:52.000Brzezinski came out two years ago and said, you've set us back 30 years in our quest for world government, referring to the Bush administration.
01:15:02.000They have just made so many mistakes, and they're going to get caught.
01:15:07.000And the whole thing's going down, just like Paul Craig Roberts said.
01:15:20.000Unemployment, frozen or very small wage increases, productivity increases will probably run normal, which are 2.5%.
01:15:31.000And then you get the collapsing real estate market, a credit crisis.
01:15:35.000Here's the $64 million question, Bob Chapman.
01:15:38.000I appreciate you popping in to comment on this today.
01:15:42.000Why are the big central banks, the IMF, the other organizations over there, the big central banks of Europe, why are they Going along with this, why would they want to accelerate the destruction of the dollar when they hold so many reserves in it?
01:16:09.000And you know, I think what they're looking at as the final product here is that all currencies go down against gold because they can't hold gold down forever.
01:16:35.000They have to build the euro, then make the dollar fall, then claim it's because of currency problems, dollarize the Americas, then have destabilization between those, and then, oh, we've just got to have a world peg on the currency.
01:16:49.000That's probably the final culmination of what they're doing.
01:16:54.000And you saw the events here on Friday and Monday with regard to rumors on CNBC that AMBAC and NBIA are going to be bailed out and that they'll keep their AAA ratings.
01:17:10.000And then S&P said yesterday that they will allow them to keep their ratings even though one of them just put out some notes that are paying 14%.
01:17:51.000Now, what'll happen is slowly the market, the stock market, will go back down again, and slowly gold will start to move back up again.
01:17:58.000And, of course, they threw in an IMF sale, which McCormick at the Treasury, who was appointed, incidentally, by Paulson, both from Goldman, he says, oh, the administration says it's okay to sell that gold.
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01:23:23.000Bob, in the minute or two we got left here, and I appreciate you popping in, in layman's terms, it's very bad to have the former Fed Chairman tell the Arabs to dump the dollar.
01:23:36.000And in the long run, even the short term, we just don't know how bad it'll hurt us, but it's gonna hurt us either way.
01:23:42.000It's hurting our economy because our fiat currency was the main thing we had left as an economy, and we let these guys get in there and create this fantasy world, and now they're showing us that they're globalists and they're selling us out.
01:24:08.000I mean, he's going to do what he's going to do.
01:24:10.000He came out of obscurity, in actuality, a failed economist, with one client when he was brought into the Federal Reserve in the 1980s and then graduated to his job for 20 years.
01:24:28.000He's going to do what he's told to do.
01:24:29.000He's been paid to do that all his life.
01:24:31.000And when he talks to those people at OPEC, he gets several hundred thousand or a million dollars for speaking to them.
01:24:38.000And it's, you know, this is the game that they play.
01:24:41.000They don't care about the public, you and I. They care about enrichment, whether they're 83 years old or not.
01:24:47.000Well, I mean, obviously that's the fact.
01:24:49.000I'm just trying to impart to the public.
01:24:52.000Gold is, I guess, this signals that gold's going up for sure if Greenspan's saying dump the dollar.
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01:46:35.000Any analysis of dozens of studies, this is mainstream news I'm reading here.
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01:46:50.000The studies I've seen say placebo works better.
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01:48:58.000And again, that's when they've got somebody who's just completely out of their gourd.
01:49:02.000But again, it's those really depressed people that it does, and I've seen the studies, help short-term.
01:49:08.000But then when they have the bad depression again, it's worse than it ever was, and now it's psychopathic, and they want to stab people.
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01:53:07.000Going to be popping in with us for about 30-45 minutes next hour.
01:53:10.000And then we're going to have Dr. Paul Greg Roberts pop in with what Alan Greenspan's done.
01:53:30.000All we've got is that stinking dollar.
01:53:34.000See, they get you under the control of a fiat system, the central banks, the private foreign banks get full control of us, and then you just wanted to trust them like they wouldn't abuse us or use it on us?
01:53:45.000All these years we told you the Federal Reserve was your enemy?
01:53:47.000I'm talking to long-time listeners that still hate me.
01:53:51.000Believe me, for our main listeners, I have people that have been listening for 10, 12 years, 13 years, that hate me, and that laugh about everything.
01:54:34.000Just the most out-of-control, conniving, America-hating trash, getting rid of our sovereignty, destroying our currency, destroying our good name, selling the world on torture.
01:55:21.000We've got a duet she did with her dad, too, we're going to play part of, and a few little short excerpts of Some of the tracks off her new album, Lucky 13, which you, by the way, can get at paulanelsonband.com.
01:56:17.000It just follows a pattern of the big central bankers and their head minions and spokesmen like Greenspan.
01:56:23.000He's the most known central banker in the world, the most, quote, prestigious.
01:56:28.000Saying that it's good to have countries dump the dollar, when just on the face of it, that is the worst possible thing.
01:56:38.000And then he gives a reason for it, saying it'll help inflation, when it's going to do the opposite on the face of it.
01:56:44.000You know, he even gives us his reason for saying the dollar needs to die, is that it's going to help inflation.
01:56:50.000And I guess that means inflation is going to be so bad, they've got to just get rid of the dollar.
01:56:55.000Let me tell you, the process of that happening will take years, and it's going to be like having your wisdom teeth pulled every single day.
01:57:02.000So, I know what this means now for our country.
01:58:31.000But the city looks the same, though I can't find the sun from the chill in the air.
01:58:39.000Be that as it may, I'm fallin' on better days.
01:58:46.000Be that as it may, I'm fallin' on better days.
01:58:55.000Nowhere is a place for my head and everything.
01:59:00.000Every dream I've had, it just quite exists.
01:59:08.000Doesn't pay to blink, cause it's later than you think.
01:59:13.000Your whole life could change with all the time A promise is a lie with a prettier disguise Like I love you for the rest of my life Be that as it may, I fall in on that day
01:59:39.000Be that as it may, I fall in on that day Six o'clock in the morning and here I am Morning without running, why suck it?
02:00:27.000I saw you had a new record out or a new album out in the news and I wanted to have you on to talk about just your music, your dad, your whole philosophy, just everything.
02:00:53.000When did the new record come out, Lucky 13?
02:00:55.000Uh, you know, we had a few printed out in December for friends and family, especially, I've been saying since March, that it'd be due in a month.
02:01:04.000So by December we got out, well, about 500 or so, and then actually we're doing a CD release party this Friday night with Joe Ely here at the Saxon Pub in Austin, so that'll be the official release.
02:01:58.000Well, I think it's just the way, like I said, you can sit down.
02:02:00.000There's a lot of clubs in Austin that are big warehouse-type venues, and it's easy to lose the music in there, but Paxton Pub's kind of like them.
02:02:09.000Well, we're going to play some little cuts from your album.
02:02:16.000Not the whole songs, but part of a few of them, if that's okay when we get back from break.
02:02:20.000With our guest, Paula Nelson from the Paula Nelson Band.
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02:06:21.000The Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former Wall Street Journal editor, father of Reaganomics, comes on to talk about what's happening to the economy and Greenspan calling for basically dumping the dollar.
02:06:31.000You know, when we got Willie on three weeks ago for the first time, you noticed for about 20 minutes, I didn't throw any hard questions at him because I'm such a big fan.
02:06:37.000I wanted to hear about growing up, music, his family.
02:06:40.000And then Willie's like, hey, let's get into some hardcore issues.
02:06:43.000We're not going to get into too many of those today, though I do want to talk about her father because he's such an icon and such a great person, but also her life, her family, what she's doing.
02:06:52.000But we couldn't have a Nelson on without, you know, getting into some of those issues.
02:06:55.000We'll probably spend a little bit of time on that.
02:06:58.000Paul, you brought something up to me pretty amazing, though, during that last break when we had a few minutes to talk, and that I didn't even know about, that happened the first time your dad came on, and then he came back on still again to show him the type of guy he is, and I think it's pretty historical and important, but do you think we should just out of the gates mention that or just leave it alone?
02:07:24.000Well, I think that's something that happens often when people state their opinions and there's strong opinion against it and strong against opinions for it.
02:08:07.000I used to hear from you that somebody was death-threatening your dad, and that he's such a classy guy that when he came back on, he didn't even talk about that.
02:08:14.000It's just, those individuals are despicable, and it's just all the more reason people need to know how despicable they are. - Well, I definitely agree with that.
02:08:25.000You know, one of the Dixie Chicks went through their stuff, and you know, I think it's just mainly when we're fighting for peace and we're giving death threats, that doesn't really make sense.
02:08:35.000And that kind of goes with the whole war in the first place.
02:08:38.000You know, that kind of covers a lot of territory.
02:08:42.000Well, the individuals that do that, if you can find out who they are, I'd just call the police on them.
02:08:47.000I mean, that is just despicable to try to intimidate our free speech.
02:08:51.000I mean, don't we have a right as Americans, even if it was an unpopular view, and by the way, his views are popular, isn't it our right, Paula Nelson, to have those views?
02:09:26.000He just keeps giving, giving, giving, giving.
02:09:29.000You know, so the whole idea of anyone getting death threats, but especially someone who's just speaking out for peace.
02:09:35.000And I think we all just need to kind of wake up and look at the situation the world is in and make differences where we can, especially in awareness, you know, whatever that may be, just finding out what's really going on.
02:09:46.000Well, I can't think of anything more American than what your father does speaking out.
02:09:49.000As Teddy Roosevelt said, it's our duty as patriotic Americans to expose corrupt governments.
02:09:55.000But some people say, no, no, no, we're not supposed to ask questions.
02:09:58.000That sounds like Nazi Germany, though, when you're supposed to shut your mouth and not speak up.
02:10:03.000No, I believe most definitely, you know, especially if we should speak up and stand up for what we believe in.
02:10:09.000Most definitely, I believe that, you know.
02:10:12.000There's some things that, like I said, I don't quite speak out on yet because I don't really know all the answers.
02:10:17.000You know, there's a lot of uncovered stuff out there.
02:10:19.000And I, you know, with my stuff, I write about what I know most definitely in my own life, you know, with my own music and the things that are happening in the world and family and people around me.
02:10:32.000But as far as, you know, I really just try and Research everything as much as possible, and like I said, what's going on is terrible.
02:10:42.000Well, talking to your father, I mean, I was already a huge fan of the time I was a small child, being born and bred here in Texas and then in Austin, but I did more research on your dad before and after I had him on when I knew he was coming on, and to find out that he gives so much to so many charities and so much time to charities and then never even talks about How much he's given.
02:11:09.000You know, he's just like I said, he's done so much for his own family and families all over the world.
02:11:14.000And, you know, I love and support him no matter what he does, as I know he does me.
02:11:20.000Well, to your dad's credit and the Dixie Chicks and others, they spoke out before and at the start and during the war.
02:11:27.000And a lot of people tried to demonize him, but I think the chicks have come out even better on the other side of this and more respected.
02:11:35.000Big films being made about him, obviously.
02:11:38.000Your father, if it was possible, has only gotten bigger and more respected.
02:11:42.000So I think, at the end of the day, the moral here is we can't let bullies intimidate us from not using our First Amendment right to free speech.
02:11:53.000And I think the person that made those threats, I think they need to know that they failed, because your dad came back on the show and spoke out even more.
02:12:00.000He went on Democracy Now!, national television, and spoke out last week.
02:12:04.000And so I would just tell those individuals that they have failed.
02:12:08.000I want to talk more about your father and your family and your music.
02:12:11.000Later, but now let's get into the Paula Nelson Band, because I just love your voice.
02:12:16.000I mean, it just sounds like country gold to me, but with kind of a mix of modern to it.
02:12:21.000How would you describe your musical development and where it's led you today to the Paula Nelson Band?
02:12:29.000Well, I mean, I definitely think I couldn't help the influence from all the talent, you know, surrounding me from birth between, yeah.
02:12:39.000My father, of course, Waylon Jennings, Rita Coolidge, Jesse Coulter, you know, and of course, Reece Franklin.
02:12:49.000And then there were so many that we were surrounded with that I didn't even realize how cool and talented they were until I got older and really started appreciating music.
02:13:00.000Of course, Johnny and June, Roseanne, their daughter, you know, just all kids that we, Tudor, Jennings, we all grew up together, really.
02:13:09.000So I don't think any of us really understood what an honor it was and what great music and what great influences we were under.
02:13:18.000Even with all the pros and cons, of course, too.
02:13:21.000It was hard growing up in school being Willie Nelson's daughter.
02:13:25.000I just would rather kind of blend in rather than stick out.
02:13:30.000But it taught me a lot of lessons and made me stronger.
02:13:34.000Well, you're a sweetheart to spend time with us, and I get the same spirit from you that I get from your dad and other folks, you know, who do love, you know, just being good, decent people.
02:13:47.000I'm a huge Waylon Jennings fan, huge Johnny Cash fan.
02:13:50.000I mean, not just a fan of their music, but what they stood for, everything.
02:13:54.000People are always wanting to know more about the narrative of their lives.
02:13:58.000Behind the scenes, growing up, being around them, around their kids, any interesting stories or nuggets about Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash, or any of these people?
02:14:08.000Well, actually, there's a few pictures out there.
02:14:11.000I think there's a couple on my MySpace site, but when I was, oh gosh, I was probably five or six, and Waylon and his band, and he had a drummer, Uh, his name's Richie Albright and I just had a crush on both of them and, you know, very early I'd run up to Waylon and he'd give me a kiss and say, who's number one?
02:14:42.000And then my mom said I'd see both of them coming and just take off the other direction.
02:14:47.000You know, at an early age, I knew, well, I don't want to have to choose between the two.
02:14:52.000But, you know, they were all my uncles and my buddies and my... That's just one of the many, many stories I can think of that was kind of comical.
02:15:01.000I mean, just from afar and seeing them in a few shows, Waylon Jennings had an amazing presence, didn't he?
02:15:07.000Or what was it like knowing him in person?
02:15:10.000You know, like I said, it didn't click to me that they were any different than anybody else's parents or family members.
02:15:20.000I didn't really understand that they were different or that Dad was different or our family was different in any way until the kids in school got old enough to really remind me or let me know that we were different.
02:15:34.000Like, well, what is it like to know so many people?
02:15:38.000And I personally didn't have a dime to my name, you know, me, myself, so I didn't understand.
02:15:43.000So that made it a little bit difficult.
02:15:45.000Uh, but then after I got out, Sloan was able to hang out and, you know, with the likes of Waylon and Leon, I was just in awe by their talent and their, you know, it was Uncle Waylon and Uncle Leon and Dad and I didn't even know how hard it was to play the guitar.
02:16:00.000I didn't realize what a great guitar player or songwriter it was until I tried to do both on my own.
02:16:06.000And then realize just how cool my dad's talent and really he is.
02:16:11.000Last time I had your father on, last Monday, I'm brought up, when did he, you know, I mean, did he start out being this like Obi-Wan Kenobi, a really calm, zen, sweet guy?
02:16:22.000I mean, being around your dad a few times, amazing presence.
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02:22:37.000I mean, I'm not really an expert on describing music, but I certainly, certainly like it.
02:22:41.000I know a lot of folks here in Austin that I run into that are big, big fans of your music.
02:22:45.000I mean, how would you describe your genre of music, Paula?
02:22:49.000Well, I think there's definitely the blues in there.
02:22:52.000You know, I love country, but I'm more of a fan of the old, old, old country, you know?
02:22:58.000So, Ray Charles and, you know, I think it's more of a southern rock, maybe, you know, because there are definitely some rockin' songs, but, you know, of course, I love Bonnie Raitt, you know, and then, say, people here in Austin, of course, Tony Price, huge influence, Carolyn Wonderland, rock, too.
02:23:17.000So, you know, Luanne Barton, Angela Stray, I've had all kinds of local influences as well as, you know, all over the place.
02:23:25.000There's a lot of tracks on here, coming back out of the next break.
02:23:28.000What do you think is a good song for us to play part of?
02:23:33.000Well, you know, Day to Day Love is one of my favorites, of course, because my dad and my little brother Luke sing harmony with me, and of course my dad plays guitar, and then Tosca is playing on the song, and it's just a beautiful... and then Fire Below, I'm pretty partial to that one, too.
02:23:55.000What was the first instrument that you played, Paula?
02:23:59.000I started playing piano when I was about four or five, and I didn't take lessons.
02:24:05.000In fact, I was convinced that the Partridge family had stolen a song from me, because I started playing, I Think I Love You, the first song that I started playing.
02:24:16.000Not actually the way the song sounds, but at five, I was writing my own.
02:24:20.000And then I played the piano for a while, Took up guitar.
02:25:18.000Like I said, I didn't realize how hard it was until I tried to play one, and then I paid attention to how my dad played his, and it's pretty cool.
02:25:26.000What's the story on your dad's famous guitar?
02:25:28.000How old is that, and how did it get the big hole in it?
02:25:32.000Well, it's just a classical guitar, so it doesn't have a pick guard, to my knowledge.
02:25:38.000And so that is just from him strumming and strumming and strumming for the last, gosh, I could think he started when he was in his 30s, late 20s, 30s.
02:25:48.000Well, he started singing on stage when he was five at his dad's pool hall.
02:25:54.000And then it just progressed from there.
02:25:56.000But I'm not quite sure how old that guitar is, but it's got to be at least 40 some years old.
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02:30:45.000Well, it's cold outside, it's cold outside, and the hardest part, and I can't take away and I can't take away the chill of the night of it.
02:31:11.000And I've been pining on and on about how everything's wrong, as if to throw away everything I own.
02:31:24.000The weather has changed again, but the city looks the same, Though I can't find the sun From the chill in the air Be that as it may I fall on better days Be that as it may I fall on better days
02:31:52.000Nowhere is a place Where my head is in the same Every dream I've had, it just quietly slips.
02:32:06.000Doesn't pay to blink, cause it's later than you think.
02:33:06.000Paula, I really do owe a debt to you, your father, everybody, the courage that you had speaking out against the war early on, the poems.
02:33:14.000Everything you and your family went through, because your dad really is a class act, you're a class act, and I just want to thank you for coming on and being part of this show, Paula.
02:33:23.000Well, thank you so very much, and I'll come back anytime.
02:33:28.000We've just got a few minutes left here together, and if it's okay, I'm going to play part of some of the other tracks throughout the rest of this week with your new album, Lucky 13.
02:33:43.000Just getting back to you and your father, people just love, because they admire your father so much, to know behind the scenes stuff or about the type of person he is or stories.
02:33:57.000To add to the great Willie Nelson lore, are there any stories that stick in your mind that you've told before or any other stories that are poignant or touching or interesting or funny that you've never told Paula?
02:34:09.000Well, yeah, I mean, there's, like I said earlier, there's so many, you know.
02:34:13.000One, seeing him in a Santa suit is hysterical when he was trying to be Santa, you know, when my sister didn't know yet.
02:34:21.000So seeing him, and he got busted because he was wearing the same type of running socks that he always wore.
02:34:27.000He always had the same kind, same brand.
02:34:29.000And so my sister busted him and wouldn't talk to us for days.
02:34:33.000Seeing him on a pair of skis is pretty funny because his whole face just freezes over.
02:34:39.000He's just, you know, he's the funniest man alive.
02:34:43.000He's always got a joke and always got a positive, optimistic attitude.
02:34:48.000And he's very involved and aware and hip on a lot of stuff.
02:35:18.000He belongs to the world, but he's just, he's wonderful.
02:35:22.000Well, he is your daddy, and Paula, in your own right.
02:35:25.000I mean, it's like a blue slash, like, you know, country gold, or even before that, kind of like a Hank Williams mix, or I hear, I mean, what were the main influences on you?
02:35:36.000Obviously your father, but female influences from a vocalist?
02:35:42.000You know, early on it was Rita Coolidge and Jesse Coulter.
02:35:48.000I would just look at them on stage and think, I just want to be them, you know?
02:35:52.000Of course, then that same era, Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris, and then it moved on to Bonnie Raitt.
02:36:02.000Uh, Janice Joplin, of course, uh, Winona Judd, you know, it just, the list goes on and there's so many here in Austin and, uh, out in the world that aren't on the radio that they're just fantastic, too.
02:36:14.000So, you know, I just try and listen and get influence from, uh, everything I hear.
02:36:20.000Well, there is an amazing music scene.
02:36:50.000He'd let me get up and sing any time I came down to uh... at Bantam and sing T-99U and taught me how to play the guitar that my dad bought me.
02:38:11.000Okay, he came on on very short notice, former Wall Street Journal editor.
02:38:15.000He's got, of course, father of economics, head of policy at the Treasury under Reagan, and he has said in the last couple years here that, I keep saying, well, when's it going to implode, or will it be a slow slider, just from a bad recession?
02:38:29.000And he says, I don't know, Alex, but all the signs are bad and getting worse with the people running things.
02:38:37.000But this is all in a question for you, Dr. Roberts.
02:38:40.000By the way, the second edition of his book is about to come out.
02:38:44.000And then you keep saying it depends on if the dollar falls apart or keeps sliding.
02:38:49.000And the other economists and forecasters and experts, we concur with what you're saying, that the key is keeping the dollar.
02:38:58.000And now Greenspan has come out, and I have multiple mainstream news articles here, I'm sure you've already seen this, and he talked to, he found the actual quote here, he talked to a consortium of Arab leaders yesterday,
02:39:14.000And he said that de-pegging their currencies from the dollar is probably the most useful thing that can be done to stop the increasing influence of foreign assets on the monetary system, and therefore, the monetary base and inflationary pressures.
02:39:29.000And he went on to say that in the short term, the free floating will not fully dissipate inflationary pressure, although it will significantly do so, Greenspan added, giving a green light to the Gulf states to drop the dollar peg.
02:40:41.000We don't import much from OPEC but oil, and that price seems to be fixed according to American inflation anyhow.
02:40:54.000So I don't know that them breaking the peg would affect the oil price or have much direct Well, sir, I'm a novice, you know, compared to you, but I mean, just from my feeble understanding of this, and correct me if I'm wrong, I mean, I want the answers.
02:41:08.000Now, again, I appreciate you joining us short notice.
02:41:11.000If the dollar's already been devalued, they've already printed so much of it, and so that's causing the inflation or helping generate it, and then if the dollar goes down even more, and I would think that would happen if the Arabs start moving away from it, then won't that drive up our oil price because it'll be an even more devalued dollar?
02:41:29.000Well, that's what I was trying to address.
02:41:31.000I'm not sure there's a direct connection between their peg to the dollar and dollar inflation.
02:41:44.000There is a direct connection between their peg to the dollar and their inflation, and I think that's what Greenspan was addressing.
02:41:55.000I think it's right, and what you seem to be suspicious of is that the psychological effect of the oil producers removing a dollar peg could cause a lot of people to think it meant something it didn't because of the psychological effect, and it could further weaken the willingness of people around the world to hold dollar assets.
02:42:20.000I think what will determine the The future of the dollar is the willingness of foreigners to continue to accumulate dollar investments.
02:42:35.000And sometimes a weaker dollar makes them more willing because they say, look, we can buy IBM now 30% cheaper because the dollar's gone down and it's priced in dollars.
02:42:49.000So the real question is, How many of our assets do they want to accumulate?
02:43:01.000And if they decide they don't want to accumulate them at the same rates they have in the past, and Washington keeps turning out trade and budget deficits at the same growth rates, then the dollar is going to continue to sink.
02:43:25.000The Chinese peg to the dollar could have more effect because we import so much from China, far more than we import from OPEC.
02:43:38.000As I've told you before on these shows, the manufacturing goods deficit of the United States is three times, four times the size of the I mean, obviously that's the big issue dragging us down from what you and others have said who are experts on this.
02:43:56.000But again, just from a novice perspective, from what you've said and what other experts have said previously, it seems to be in unison that the creeping move away from the dollar overall is bad for the American economy.
02:44:08.000Well, I don't know that it's against the interest of the United States.
02:44:12.000And so just from my perspective and from what others are saying, him coming out and telling them to remove their peg off the dollar to a basket, that that signals, again, a further exodus from the dollar and seems to be against the interest of the United States.
02:44:27.000Well, I don't know that it's against the interest of the United States.
02:44:33.000And Greenspan may be thinking that what we need is more discipline at home and it's hard to get discipline if the foreigners are willing to take up the slack.
02:44:45.000So if we can just continually behave irresponsibly, running huge budget and trade deficits, and the rest of the world is going to finance them, we're never going to stop!
02:44:55.000And so Greenspan may be thinking, and I don't know what he's thinking, but he may be thinking, look, if the rest of the world It could actually impose some discipline on the United States.
02:45:09.000And if they did impose some discipline on us, it might be a good thing.
02:45:13.000It might help keep the entire world monetary system from breaking down as a result of American irresponsibility.
02:45:23.000Shifting gears, you wrote an article Who will end the American Empire and its neocon crazies before they end the world?
02:45:33.000Give us your rundown of basically what you said in this great story you put out today.
02:45:37.000Well, I was looking at the reaction of the American government to the demonstrations in Belgrade against the Kosovo independence and to the fact that the American embassy was damaged.
02:45:55.000All the Americans got in the government, they got all upset and said, it's unpowerable!
02:46:05.000But these are the same people who didn't think it was unpowerable to give away a big chunk of Serbia, which is what the United States government did when it recognized the Kosovo separatist A declaration last week of independence.
02:46:23.000They also blew up the Chinese embassy and tried to trick the president into being there for an interview.
02:46:29.000I mean, that was clearly a setup right there.
02:46:32.000Well, you mean back during the Clinton administration?
02:46:39.000I mean, sure, Belgrade and what's happening, and Kosovo and Pristina.
02:46:42.000No, no, certainly, I mean, NATO is handing over a portion of that country to the Muslims, and then how is Bush this anti-Muslim extremist when he's literally stealing about 20% of a sovereign nation?
02:47:00.000Also, Serbia that they fought the Turks over, you know, for several hundred years in the 14th and 15th century.
02:47:07.000So, it's a very sore spot for the Serbs to wake up one morning and find out that the United States government has given away part of their country.
02:47:19.000And I was astonished that the Secretary of State, our UN Ambassador, our former diplomat, I would think that they could just give away part of a country and the country wouldn't care, wouldn't notice it, or wouldn't get mad.
02:47:37.000It just shows the mentality of the United States government that it is the sole arbiter of every country.
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02:52:32.000Well, I've been worried about the dollar's collapse because of the effect on American people, but if you think about it, a dollar's collapse would deprive the United States of its war-making capability.
02:52:44.000It wouldn't be able to go around attacking people as it does, you know, and all these attacks are based on lies and are not serving any American interest, and the attacks are getting more reckless.
02:52:57.000Now we've decided that we, and we alone, can split up Serbia, an independent country.
02:53:05.000We're putting tremendous pressure on Russia, wringing it with military bases.
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