Consumer prices jumped 0.4% in January, higher than economists expected. The cost of food and fuel are the reasons. In the past 12 months, prices have risen 4.3%. And one of ways you re surely feeling the effects of inflation is in the price of bread and pancakes and pasta. Today, a bushel sold for $10.33, more than double what it cost a year ago.
00:02:03.000Economists say it is the fastest rising rate of food inflation in nearly 15 years.
00:02:09.000The price spike is being felt across the globe.
00:02:12.000In Italy, the cost of pasta is spiraling, up 20%.
00:02:17.000Malaysia is no longer allowing anyone to take flour out of the country.
00:02:22.000And in Pakistan, they're now stockpiling wheat and using its military to guard flour mills.
00:02:28.000As long as this strong foreign demand continues, and as long as the demand for ethanol continues to grow very rapidly, there doesn't seem to be any end in sight.
00:02:38.000Putting wheat farmers like Joe Care in an unusual position.
00:03:06.000It is Friday, the 29th day of February 2008.
00:03:10.000We're going to be live here for the next three hours.
00:03:15.000We have A top economist, Mr. Robini of the New York University Stern School of Business joining us.
00:03:24.000He was in the Financial Times of London last week with this headline, America's Economy Risks the Mother of All Meltdowns.
00:03:32.000I've heard the neocons on air this morning flipping around on several different channels all going off talking points.
00:03:39.000It was clear that the Federal Reserve is loving and wonderful and good and Bush is good and that evil Democrats Want to say the economy's bad to lie to us?
00:03:52.000No, the Democrats are bought and paid for by the very same institutions that have devalued our currency.
00:04:01.000The neocons were also trying to blame all the troubles on people that shouldn't have gotten home loans, and that's true, but why were they given the credit with zero credit?
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00:08:02.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:09.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:12.000Noriel Rubini of the New York University Stern School of Business saying we face an economic meltdown.
00:08:29.000We'll be joining us coming up in 20 minutes.
00:08:33.000Then we've got Jeffrey Smith, who's an incredible researcher.
00:08:36.000I was reading some articles he'd written.
00:08:45.000So often what happens is I've read thousands of documents and articles over the years about GMO foods and hormones in the food and the milk and the synthetic hormones and you forget it all.
00:09:52.000He was mentioning all these quotes and all these documents and all these statements where the GMO makers admit they know this is hurting people, admit they know that they don't know what they're doing, admit that it's created new amino acids that have never existed on planet Earth that are Totally toxic.
00:10:11.000And we've had, again, Nobel Prize winners, top scientists on, who worked for these companies, and they're making millions of dollars a year themselves, and they still have the will to come out and say, we can't put this on store shelves, and then they get fired.
00:10:27.000We've had quite a few of them on who are heading up whole biotech divisions.
00:10:32.000You know, who have millions of dollars of stock in the company and are paid millions a year, and half the rats die in a month eating a new potato, and they go, this is being approved?
00:10:55.000to the GMO corn, the potatoes, the other staple vegetable and grain crops where you eat this stuff and then it causes your immune system to go into overdrive like you're fighting an illness every single day and basically that wears your body out and what happens is when your body stops fighting cancer, when your body stops fighting outside organisms
00:11:35.000And that's only one area of discussion here.
00:11:39.000They know it's causing all sorts of diseases of the upper and lower intestine and the stomach.
00:11:48.000They know that it's causing massive increases in diabetes.
00:11:53.000They know That it's causing all sorts of inflammation of the brain.
00:12:00.000And we have all these studies, but he can just sit here and rock them off and give you source, after source, after source, after source, and then whole other areas of synthetic bovine growth hormone and a cocktail of other hormones that they give the milk cow, so they'll make three, four, five times the milk a milk cow normally would.
00:12:22.000And then you drink them, into your system and the boys are effeminate.
00:12:30.000I don't want to get too graphic here, but when you're 10, 11, 12, you're supposed to, or even earlier, you're supposed to have a male's reproductive organs are like ovaries, but they sit on the outside because they need to be about 96 degrees to produce healthy sperm.
00:12:51.000This gets into the whole science of it, but your body's 98.9.
00:12:56.000Or higher, in some cases, or a little bit lower.
00:13:02.000And so they drop when you go into puberty.
00:13:06.000For women that don't know about this, and even most men don't remember this is the process, but when you go into puberty at 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, I went into puberty at like 10, which is pretty early for a male, and they then descend.
00:13:22.000They're up in your body and they come down.
00:13:26.000Well, now they've got tens of thousands of males that are 20 years old and never had their testicles dropped.
00:13:59.000It's in just so many, tens of thousands of products.
00:14:03.000But females, conversely, remember a few months ago it was in the US and British papers, big studies coming out, with hundreds of thousands of girls going into puberty when they're six.
00:14:14.000Thousands going into puberty when they're three!
00:14:18.000And they take the child to the doctor and, well my three-year-old is, you know, developing larger mammary glands, larger breast, I mean, we're talking about seven-year-olds who aren't even pregnant, lactating, I mean, just crazy stuff going on.
00:14:32.000Well, you're on hardcore, chemically produced, in big factories, hormones that make cows just produce massive amounts of milk!
00:15:20.000They know it takes your girl, and girls are supposed to go into puberty later than boys, and she should be going into puberty at 13, 14 years old, And she's going to go into puberty at three years old, and you're going to take her to the doctor, and does the doctor say, get her off GMO foods, get her off the cheeses and other milk products and yogurts that have these hormones in them, these unnatural hormones?
00:19:11.000And most of us can't even afford to fully be off of what they're doing.
00:19:17.000And now when we try to force it into market by buying it, the feds come in and sue people and won't even let them properly certify they don't have hormones in them.
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00:25:19.000The professor is joining us for the next segment, but for about three minutes I've got Ted up here again because when this rush is gone, it's gone.
00:25:26.000And folks, I believe we're at the beginning of the bull market.
00:25:31.000Gold has gone from, what, $264 an ounce seven years ago to $970-plus, and the futures are way above that.
00:25:44.000Gold should be at $2,200 plus for 1980 numbers for inflation.
00:25:49.000Now, I don't know if it'll ever go to $2,000.
00:26:41.000Yeah, just go ahead and go down in the icy waters.
00:26:44.000I can tell you right now, I'm still running the same special as I did yesterday, which gold is up now $30 since I put that special together.
00:27:30.000silver right now 19 what $19 currently right now $19.80 and it's seen its high at 1991 so silver is a really good buy as well I'll All that stuff is going up.
00:27:45.000You've got to remember, the last market peak, the United States dollar was still in control of the world.
00:27:58.000But even though we saw double-digit inflation, then the countries of the world were still trying to use the United States dollar as a reserve currency.
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00:28:12.000You shouldn't be rubbing your hands together if you've bought gold and it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled in value, or if your silver's quadrupled.
00:28:19.000I mean, silver was at like $5, $6, and now it's at $19.
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00:33:46.000Feel me Coming straight on for you You made my life Now I'm strong and I'm coming through Straight on for you Professor of Economics and International Business Stern School of Business, New York University
00:34:16.000And he has been an advisor to the Treasury Department, an advisor to Well, if I tried to go through his bio, we would basically lose all the time that we have with him today.
00:34:34.000Treasury Department, Senior Advisor to the Undersecretary for International Affairs, Director of the Office of Policy, Department of Revenue, U.S.
00:34:42.000Treasury, Senior Economist for International Affairs, White House Counsel and Economic Advisors, on and on and on.
00:34:49.000And I was already aware of his work, and we try to have Top Economist on each week for you.
00:34:54.000He was quoted in a Financial Times of London story last week, America's economy risks the mother of all meltdowns.
00:35:12.000Can you explain how we've gotten to this point and where you see the economy going with more and more bad news, leveraged debt, the states trying to get their money out of investments, all the... I mean, just bottom line, in layman's terms, Professor, what are we facing?
00:35:31.000In layman's terms, we're facing a pretty severe recession in my view.
00:35:35.000The recession has already started when you look at all sorts of economic indicators like there is no job creation, demand is falling, the housing recession is getting worse.
00:35:48.000The firms and the consumers are nervous about the future.
00:36:05.000I fear this is going to be a longer and more protracted recession that may last 12 to 18 months.
00:36:11.000So, something very painful for jobs, for employment, for incomes, for consumption.
00:36:17.000I know you're not political, but we need your analysis.
00:36:21.000President Bush comes out and says we're not even going into a recession and everything's wonderful.
00:36:27.000Is that them trying to sure up a panic or what's happening?
00:36:32.000Yeah, I mean, saying we're not in a recession is not accepting reality.
00:36:36.000You go around America and you ask people, they're worried about their jobs, they're worried that now inflation is eroding the value of their incomes, the price of gas is going up, the price of energy, the price of food, the price of all sorts of goods, and wages are not going up, so people are really being stressed.
00:36:55.000That's why consumption is falling, the value of the homes are falling, people cannot use any more They're home as ATM machine and borrow against it.
00:37:16.000You have a credit crunch in the mortgage market.
00:37:19.000Interest rates on consumer debt are going up.
00:37:22.000Americans and houses are being pinched in a severe way like they've been for 20 years now.
00:37:28.000Have we, since the 70s in my opinion, have we hit the wall or will we hit the wall when everyone's maxed out and then we have all these cascading events coming together, Greenspan's telling the big oil producers get out of the dollar, which it seems to me all we've got left is our fiat currency, sir.
00:37:52.000We have these very, very nasty problems in the credit market and it's not anymore just a subprime mortgage problem because the rot has spread from subprime mortgages to near prime mortgages to prime mortgages.
00:38:06.000And it's not just mortgages, you know, you have now default rates rising for consumer credit, auto loans, credit cards, student loans, and it's not just residential real estate now, there's a beginning of a bust in commercial real estate, and then you have this problem you suggested of rising oil prices and rising inflation, and at the same time we have the weakening of the value of the dollar, and soon enough
00:38:32.000The foreigners might not want to buy our assets because they're losing value by buying things that are losing value in their own currencies because of the fall of the dollar.
00:38:40.000So we have a widespread of real economic and financial trouble ahead of us.
00:38:46.000As an economist, as a forecaster, on the good side, how do you see this playing out?
00:38:52.000What, a one, two, three year recession?
00:38:54.000On the bad side, you talk about total economic meltdown.
00:38:58.000Can you talk about what the good side might look like from your past experience versus the bad side?
00:39:04.000Well, for the time being, I'm quite pessimistic.
00:39:06.000I believe that this recession has already started, and only started, so it's going to last longer than the previous two ones.
00:39:14.000It's going to be more like 12 to 18 months, so there is light at the end of the tunnel, but it's going to be after we've had a massive increase in unemployment, losses of jobs, of incomes, these financial losses are going to spread from one part to the other of the credit markets and the financial system.
00:39:33.000On the good side is that now Washington is getting it and the Fed is getting it, so there is a stimulus with the Fed reducing interest rates quite aggressively.
00:39:43.000There's been a fiscal stimulus in terms of this package that was passed by Congress, but all these things are not enough because there are millions of houses that are now underwater.
00:39:53.000The value of their homes is less than the value of their mortgages and therefore they have a huge incentive to walk away.
00:40:00.000We'll have to think about some policy that's going to keep people in their homes and reduce the number of foreclosures because potentially you have something like 15 to 20 million households who might be underwater and might essentially bankrupt and default on their mortgages.
00:40:16.000So we need a plan and that plan is not yet in Congress on how to deal and avoid this massive tsunami of defaults and foreclosures ahead of us.
00:40:25.000Well, you're a highly respected professor and professor.
00:40:46.000We probably need not just to freeze the reset of some of the mortgages, but we need an across-the-board freezing of that.
00:40:54.000We need to stop for a closure, not just for 30 days, but probably for at least six months.
00:41:00.000We might need to change our bankruptcy laws in ways that the bankruptcy judge can cram down and force a reduction in the value of the mortgages as part of the restructuring of the debt of those who cannot pay their bills.
00:41:15.000So there are many things we can do in terms of trying to reduce the amount of financial distress for the houses that are now going bankrupt or in foreclosure.
00:41:28.000The Financial Times talks about the 12 stages.
00:41:32.000Can you mention some of the most important?
00:41:35.000How far into those 12 different events we are that could cause a meltdown?
00:41:40.000And what do you think the percentage chance is we're going to have a huge meltdown versus just a deep recession?
00:41:48.000I worry about the financial meltdown because we've never seen such a severe crunch in financial and credit markets for the last 30 years or so.
00:41:56.000I'm not going to enumerate every step, but of those 12 steps, I think that the first one is that the housing recession is getting worse rather than better.
00:42:06.000Home prices are falling now at a rate that's going to be closer to 20% when everything happens.
00:42:12.000We have now these problems in mortgages spreading from subprime to near prime to prime.
00:42:17.000We have commercial real estate now being in trouble.
00:42:19.000We have consumer credit with auto loans, credit cards, and student loans being in trouble.
00:42:25.000We have all these leveraged loans that finance all these leveraged buyouts that are now getting in trouble.
00:42:30.000And most importantly, soon enough, many corporations are going to go bankrupt because they have lots of debt and they're going to start having losses.
00:42:39.000The rate of defaults by corporations in the last two, three years was very, very low.
00:42:43.000While in a typical recession, it spikes to 15% of corporate bonds going into default.
00:42:49.000And when these corporates go into bankruptcy, then they fire workers, they don't invest.
00:42:53.000and that creates even more kind of negative effects on the economy.
00:42:57.000And finally, you'll have a very significant bearish market in equities that's going to happen in the next few months as we are going into a recession, and you'll have, you know, fire sales of assets in distressed situations.
00:43:08.000So those are some of the important steps that lead to a systemic financial crisis.
00:43:12.000Professor Robini, Professor Robini, did you see the Financial Times of London story six months ago where it said big central banks and the highest tier of the financial order actually stand to gain from this because they get to have that fire sale and consolidate up all the other banks and brokerage firms and stocks, did you see the Financial Times of London story six months ago where it said big central Or is this a core crisis at the highest levels?
00:43:40.000I think it's a core crisis of the highest levels, because even some of the largest financial institutions have had dozens of billions of dollars of losses.
00:43:50.000The biggest bank in the U.S., Citibank, or many of the other large broker-dealers have had massive losses, Merrill Lynch, Bear Stearns.
00:44:00.000So it's not just the 200 subprime mortgage lenders have gone belly up and out of business, we have the risk that some major financial institutions might also go belly up.
00:44:13.000From my understanding, in the early 1990s, we saw massive regulatory loosening of regulations to where banks could just basically certify their own loans, go way past the 1-10 rule of fractional reserve banking. go way past the 1-10 rule of fractional reserve banking.
00:44:35.000Was it just greed that brought us to this?
00:44:39.000It's a combination of greed in financial markets and the total absence of appropriate supervision and regulation of mortgage lending and of the financial system.
00:44:50.000The regulators were asleep at the wheel because there was an ideology in Washington for the last six years of just free market fundamentalism.
00:44:59.000Really reckless lending practices like a zero down payment when you get a mortgage or no verification of your income or assets or jobs, these liar loans or interest rate only mortgages or negative amortization or these teaser rates for two years.
00:45:15.000All this stuff that was really reckless and dangerous and predatory was allowed because regulators did not care.
00:45:23.000I mean, Greenspan himself was the biggest chief leader of this kind of financial innovation in mortgages and subprime.
00:45:30.000So the Fed, the regulators, and many others are in part to blame because the financial market that doesn't have institutional rules and regulations is like the jungle because greed dominates.
00:45:41.000Do you agree with Joseph Stiglitz' speech a few days ago that was widely carried where he is really blaming Greenspan for a lot of this?
00:45:50.000That sounds like what you were just doing.
00:45:52.000Yeah, I mean Greenspan and the Fed were part of the problem for two reasons.
00:45:56.000One, the Fed reduced during the last recession the Fed funds rate to 1% and kept it too low for too long and that fed the housing bubble and Greenspan and the Fed and the other regulators ignored these kind of reckless lending practices.
00:46:12.000They were occurring mortgages and credit markets and not only ignored it, but they were cheap leading and saying these are great innovations.
00:46:18.000So certainly Greenspan is partly to blame for it.
00:46:23.000I mean, I remember people 20 years ago, 15 years ago, when they started changing all these rules, phasing them in, Ron Paul was saying 20 years ago that this was going to happen, and he even predicted that it would happen in the 2000s.
00:46:36.000And so, I mean, they just recklessly did this?
00:46:41.000You don't think they had any premeditated idea to just pump out all this liquidity, then they would make personal profits and then leave us with the bag?
00:46:50.000Certainly, some financial institutions, there was this kind of wrong incentive.
00:46:55.000They knew that they were gambling for redemption, making risky loans, and then when things go wrong, maybe the Fed comes and eases monetary policy or bails them out.
00:47:05.000So that's part of the problem with people, economists refer to it as moral hazard.
00:47:09.000When you have insurance, your behavior is going to be dangerous and reckless.
00:47:13.000And there is even now expectation in Wall Street of banks and investors are being bailed out by the Fed or by the government.
00:47:20.000There are already plans for bailing out financial institutions from their own trouble.
00:47:27.000Well, I'd like to know why you say it's wrong.
00:47:28.000I agree with you, because they're going to bail it out by further inflating the currency, which then causes other countries to stop buying the federal securities, which further destroys the country, doesn't it?
00:47:41.000Yeah, one of the risks of what's happening right now is that certainly the Fed is now forced to reduce interest rates as a way to avoid a more severe recession, but with lower interest rates, the value of the dollar is falling.
00:47:53.000The historical levels are low, and that fall of the value of the dollar is going to make The value of goods we import from the rest of the world is more expensive and that's going to feed inflation and that's something we should worry about.
00:48:05.000And it may lead also foreigners not to want to invest in our securities and we need their financing because we are still running an $800 billion current account deficit.
00:48:14.000So a fall that is disorderly of the dollar and a rise in inflation is one of the risks of the mess that we have created.
00:48:22.000Professor Robini, you've written a book that I've read excerpts of, including bailouts or bail-ins, responding to financial crises in emerging economies, political cycles, and it goes on from there.
00:48:34.000This looks like gunboat diplomacy to me, where the big central banks go in and loan money to third world countries, wink-wink, the dictator doesn't pay it off, and they come in and seize the assets.
00:48:44.000This just looks like they're treating the U.S.
00:48:46.000like a third-world nation, literally strip-mining us, as you said, predatorily, creating a cycle where they get all the power and then implode the economy and pick up the pieces, but you're saying it's also now endangering them.
00:49:00.000Have they gotten so greedy and so predatory that they may fall into the pit that they dug?
00:49:05.000Well, you know, they might be greedy, but part of the problem is we created this mess ourselves.
00:49:11.000We've spent the last ten years spending more than our income and running a current account deficit, and therefore we have to finance it by foreigners buying and lending us money.
00:49:21.000Until recently, the foreigners were willing to just buy low-yielding treasury bills.
00:49:26.000They said if we have to finance the United States, want to buy your land, your firms, your gems, your real assets, and that's the phenomenon of these sovereign wealth funds that are now putting hundreds of billions of money into the U.S. equity market or into buying U.S. corporations.
00:49:45.000If you have to borrow, you cannot be too choosy on whether you're going to borrow in the form of debt or equity, and foreigners now are selling, telling us we're tired of having low-yielding tibios.
00:50:03.000A lot of those sovereign wealth, you know, rich elites in Europe, they're the very ones that gave political contributions to the groups that loosened all of the regulatory precautions.
00:50:20.000Certainly the lobbies for the financial institutions created this mess in which they said, don't mess with the financial system, don't regulate, don't supervise, market knows best, and unfortunately in financial systems, if you don't have rules and regulations, it's a lot of the jungle, because the greed is the main driver of the decisions of investors, and you need to control that.
00:50:40.000Noriel Rubini, professor of economics, PhD, advises the US government, We've got a quick break and then five minutes on the other side.
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00:54:36.000In the College of Professors, with your colleagues there in New York and around the world, just a guesstimation, what percentage are saying we're going to have a meltdown, or a great danger of a meltdown, versus we're just in a recession, versus those that say we're not in a recession, that we're in a wonderful economy?
00:54:56.000Unfortunately, a majority of professional economists and forecasters are still deluding themselves that we're not going to have a recession.
00:55:06.000So those who are actually claiming we're going to have a recession are still a minority.
00:55:11.000Unfortunately, of course, they're not talking to the average American because the recession has already started.
00:55:16.000You know, every economic indicator you look at shows a downward trend in economic activity, demand, production, employment, sales, and you name it.
00:55:26.000I think that there is kind of like a disconnect between those who are forecasters and those who are living households in terms of what the economy is.
00:55:35.000Well, we've got these forecasters that work for big companies that want to keep putting out the good word, and isn't that political?
00:55:42.000They don't want the political blame, so they're just telling people, you're delusional, the economy's great.
00:55:48.000Part of it is also that, you know, many of these financial institutions are underwriting stocks and bonds and they don't want their chief economists to say we have a recession.
00:55:58.000So, you know, there is a little bit of a bias or self-censorship.
00:56:03.000They are not going to be the first ones to claim that we're in trouble because their entire business model is based on an economy that's growing.
00:56:15.000is about 30% of the global economy, and unfortunately when the U.S.
00:56:17.000same crisis in Europe and then that has ripple effects doesn't it absolutely you know us is about 30 percent of the global economy and unfortunately when the US sneezes the rest of the world gets gets the cold, and this time around the U.S. is not just going to sneeze.
00:56:34.000It's going to be a severe and protracted case of pneumonia, and therefore the rest of the world is going to be very negatively affected in terms of their own economic condition and growth by a severe U.S. recession.
00:56:50.00010% chance of total meltdown, 20%, 30%, and what will a meltdown look like if it does happen?
00:57:00.000A meltdown would take the form of a very severe recession that lasts at least a year and a half or two, in which the financial losses in the financial system are going to be over a trillion dollars and in which millions of households are going to lose their homes.
00:57:16.000I think that there is at least a 50-50% probability that scenario would happen at this point.
00:57:24.000And then there's the cascading effect with all this inflation.
00:57:27.000People on fixed incomes are now starting already to become homeless.
00:57:30.000We see tent cities popping up everywhere.
00:57:32.000I mean, if Bush says this is a boom economy, I'd hate to see a recession.
00:57:37.000Yeah, in a recession people lose jobs, incomes are not growing, and inflation now is going up.
00:57:42.000So it's a major squeeze, and certainly those that are at the bottom of the income distribution, who have not done very well in the last few years, are going to suffer even more.
00:57:51.000The poor, the homeless, the people who have a lower income.
00:57:55.000And it's going to affect even the middle class.
00:57:56.000Today there is a middle class malaise because cost of education, cost of health care, cost of energy, everything is going up in price and incomes are not growing very much, so it's not just the working class, it's also the middle classes that are squeezed.
00:58:11.000Rgemonitor.com, Norio Rubini, we really appreciate you spending time with us, sir.
00:59:05.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:59:10.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:59:15.000We just had a top economist on, advisor to the Treasury and the White House, admitting that we have a 50% chance of a total economic meltdown.
00:59:23.000And we're not trying to scare you, we're not trying to be negative here.
01:00:32.000But Jeffrey, in the time we've got before the break, tell us a little bit about yourself, your mission, your films, your books, what you're doing.
01:00:40.000I'm the Executive Director of the Institute for Responsible Technology.
01:00:44.000And I've written the books Seeds of Deception and Genetic Roulette.
01:00:48.000We're leading campaigns that we believe can end the genetic engineering of the food supply by informing consumers about the health dangers associated with genetically engineered foods and giving them non-GMO shopping guides so they can make healthier, non-GM choices.
01:01:04.000And you've got a couple different websites.
01:01:34.000And I worked with more than 30 scientists over two years to document all of the known health risks of genetically engineered foods.
01:01:40.000Well, see, I'm an addict of reading, you know, all the scientific papers and even peer-reviewed studies, not just the news articles about them.
01:01:47.000And listening to you on radio and reading your writings, it's like, oh, I remember that, I remember that, I remember that.
01:01:52.000And I was shocked at all the stuff I'd forgotten, the incredible admissions they've made, and that as bad as I thought it was, it was even more crazy.
01:02:00.000Because you kind of put it all into picture.
01:02:03.000When you put it all together and you read it together, you read thousands of sick, sterile and dead livestock, thousands of toxic and allergic reactions, damage to virtually every organ and every system studied in laboratory animals, and then there's all sorts of assumptions that they used as a basis for safety claims, which turned out to be false.
01:02:22.000So taken together, we have irrefutable, overwhelming evidence of harm associated with these genetically modified foods.
01:02:29.000Well, we're going to break and we're going to come back.
01:02:32.000I want you to give us the basic history of it and then go right through how, when they change one gene randomly, and I've had Nobel Prize winners on about this subject who have been at this,
01:02:42.000It randomly changes thousands of others each time there's a new generation of the plant, new amino acids, you know, killing half the mice that were fed it, you know, knowing it's doing it, putting it on the market, genetically engineered pesticides into the food, all the numbers of the milk, the girls at three going into puberty, I mean, this is a holocaust!
01:03:05.000I mean, we cannot, I think with words, sir, describe just how bad it is.
01:03:10.000Well, it is pretty remarkable what a catastrophe our food supply is, and the biggest, most radical change in history is the genetic engineering of the food supply, which came under the radar in 1996, big time.
01:03:22.000I agree, and I've interviewed so many experts from so many different fields, and from all of my 13 years of interviewing people on a host of subjects, they believe that genetic engineering That is the potentially most dangerous thing we face.
01:03:36.000More dangerous than thermal nuclear weapons.
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01:06:53.000He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
01:07:04.000Okay, he interviewed scores of scientists for just one of his books alone.
01:07:08.000I'm telling you, the info he's going to give you is documented.
01:07:11.000We're very honored to have Jeffrey Smith with us from Institute for Responsible Technology, your consumer safety partner.
01:07:31.000Okay, the FDA should have been pretty heads up about this in the 1980s when a genetically engineered food supplement called L-tryptophan ended up killing about 100 Americans and causing 5 to 10,000 to fall sick.
01:07:45.000Only the brand that was genetically engineered to produce this food supplement had these deadly contaminants that caused this epidemic.
01:07:53.000The only reason the scientists were able to discover it was because the disease was rare, acute, and came on quickly.
01:07:59.000If all three characteristics had not been in place, that same deadly L-tryptophan might still be on the market.
01:08:05.000Which begs the question, what about the genetically engineered crops that are on the market?
01:08:09.000Might they be producing the doubling of food-related illnesses in the United States, or asthma and allergies, etc.?
01:08:15.000We don't know because there's no post-marketing surveillance, no human clinical trials.
01:08:19.000In fact, the FDA had urged their superiors, the scientists, we know this from documents made public from a lawsuit, their scientists had urged their superiors to require long-term safety studies because they said genetically engineered foods could create allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems.
01:08:36.000But the White House had instructed the FDA to promote the biotechnology industry in 1992, and the person in charge of policy at the FDA was a former attorney of biotech giant Monsanto and later Monsanto's Vice President.
01:08:52.000So the policy ignored the scientists, it ignored the science and allowed the foods on the market with absolutely no safety tests required.
01:09:00.000The FDA only has a voluntary consultation process in which the companies basically give summary data and don't actually give raw feeding study data or anything that can actually evaluate safety.
01:09:12.000Only one company gave raw feeding study data.
01:09:15.000It was for a genetically engineered tomato.
01:09:18.000It turns out That when it was forced fed the tomatoes, because the rats actually refused to eat it, 7 of 40 died within two weeks.
01:09:29.000In the UK, they wanted to do long-term safety studies to prove to consumers that GM foods were safe, so they gave a $3 million grant to Dr. Arpad Poosthai, one of the world's leading scientists in his field.
01:09:41.000He fed supposedly harmless genetically engineered potatoes to rats.
01:09:46.000It caused potentially precancerous cell growth in the digestive tract.
01:09:49.000Smaller brains, livers, and testicles.
01:09:54.000And this was because of the process of genetic engineering itself, not the particular change that they made for the potato.
01:10:01.000He went public with his concerns, was a hero for about two days at his prestigious institute, and then two phone calls were allegedly placed from the UK Prime Minister's office forwarded through the receptionist to the director of the institute.
01:10:12.000The next morning, Dr. Pustai was fired from his job after 35 years and silenced with threats of a lawsuit.
01:10:19.000His 20-member research team was dismantled, and they never implemented the long-term safety testing protocol.
01:10:32.000Well, in his case, in his particular study, there were no deaths, but there was another study that was done recently on rats, And they were fed genetically engineered soybeans That was the one?
01:10:43.000Yeah, Russian National Academy of Sciences.
01:10:45.000And they fed it to female adult rats, and it turned out more than half of the offspring died within the first three weeks.
01:10:54.000So the rats themselves that ate it didn't die, but the offspring died.
01:10:57.000Also, the offspring were on average much smaller, and they couldn't reproduce when they tried to mate them together.
01:11:04.000This woman who I was in a conference call with yesterday, with the Ukraine, with a biosafety presentation.
01:11:11.000She describes how she did this study three times in a row with similar results and then for some reason the rat food that was being bought by the Institute and all of the rats turned out to switch to genetically engineered soy-based rat food.
01:11:27.000So she couldn't do any more studies but after two months of feeding all of the rats in the facility genetically engineered soy-based rat food, she asked her colleagues, what's the infant mortality?
01:11:38.000It had shot up to over 55 percent, suggesting that it wasn't just her particular batch of GM soy that caused the problem, but it's generic.
01:11:46.000In fact, when they fed GM soy to mice, they looked at the testicles and they found that there was changes in the young sperm cell.
01:11:54.000They looked at the embryos when the parent mice were fed GM soy, and the embryo's DNA acted differently.
01:12:00.000When this Russian scientist fed rats to... fed male rats GM soy, The testicles turned dark blue instead of pink, and the whole self-structure looked different.
01:12:10.000I gotta stop you for a minute, and we've interviewed that scientist you mentioned and many others.
01:12:14.000The point here is this stuff's been approved, humans are eating this, and lo and behold, we see fertility plummeting, we see all the same things.
01:12:22.000God, I can't believe that this is happening, and I can't believe these companies have done this!
01:12:28.000It's remarkable, you know, when you look at their goals.
01:12:33.000Arthur Anderson Consulting Worked with Monsanto early on and they bragged in 1999 in January conference about how they worked with Monsanto executives.
01:12:42.000They asked the executives to describe their ideal future in 15 to 20 years.
01:12:46.000And the Monsanto executives described a world in which 100% of all commercial seeds were genetically engineered and patented.
01:12:53.000And Anderson Consulting worked backwards from that goal to create the strategy and tactics to achieve it.
01:13:01.000The takeover of the food supply on Earth.
01:13:04.000Now we do specifically from the scientists in the studies know what it does because every time they change one gene to make a potato last longer or taste better or whatever the case may be by adding insectoid genetics or mammal or other plant genetics, then it's, and I'd like you to elaborate on this, it then is a, like you say, genetic roulette.
01:13:24.000Randomly thousands of things each generation change And can you get into that?
01:13:30.000We'll come back to some of the other health risks about the thousands of dead animals.
01:13:39.000The process of genetic engineering, people think it's just splicing it in precisely.
01:13:44.000What they do is they take, let's say they take a gene that produces its own pesticide out of soil bacteria.
01:13:49.000They take that gene, make millions of copies, make some changes in it, add a promoter from a virus to turn it on 24-7 around the And then they put it into a gene gun.
01:13:59.000They actually shoot the gun into millions of cells, hoping that some of the genes make it into the DNA of some of the cells.
01:14:06.000And then only a few of them actually get the genes, which they then grow that cell into a plant using cloning, or tissue culture.
01:14:14.000Now the process of inserting the gene, and the process of cloning the cell into a plant, both create massive collateral damage in the DNA.
01:14:25.000We're talking 2-4% difference of the DNA after it's been genetically engineered compared to before it started.
01:14:32.000So we're talking any particular mutation, any single point mutation could have deadly consequences.
01:14:39.000We're talking about hundreds or thousands of mutations.
01:14:41.000And one food plant might have 50-60 different chimeras where they're already splicing other organisms and then splicing that and then sticking viruses on top and then firing it in randomly.
01:15:04.000So, when you look at all of the studies together and say, well, how could a genetically engineered soybean increase allergies, it turns out there are many candidates.
01:15:13.000This process of disrupting the DNA caused an increase of a known allergen in soybeans, up to seven times higher in cooked soy, according to Monsanto's own study.
01:15:25.000They also did a skin prick test with individuals and at least one person had a reaction only to the genetically modified soy and not to natural soy.
01:15:34.000They then looked into the soybean and found that there was a completely new and unexpected protein, also likely from this result of massive collateral damage, and that new protein was allergenic.
01:15:45.000And then by the way, we see studies all the time where they're growing this stuff open air and it's now jumping into other plants.
01:15:51.000Oh yeah, don't get me started on that.
01:15:53.000We're taking self-generating, self-propagating genetic pollution and putting it into the environment where we have no technology to recall it.
01:16:00.000And never before vandalizing the very genetic code of the biosphere, because these are systems that never occurred over millions of years of natural development.
01:16:13.000And not only that, but the genes we introduce today may outlast the effects of nuclear waste.
01:16:19.000I mean, they are self-propagating, possibly for the rest of our biosphere's life.
01:16:24.000And already replicating and merging and already causing... I mean, this is insane!
01:16:29.000Just to finish up with the allergies, because I know there's a lot of allergy sufferers listening, and they may want to know if these things are safe or not.
01:16:39.000I talked to one allergist, by the way.
01:16:40.000He said, I used to do tests for soy allergies all the time, but now that it's genetically engineered, it's so dangerous, I tell my patients never to even try it.
01:16:50.000So there's another thing is that the reason why 80% of all genetically engineered foods are created, and there's only four major crops, soy, corn, cotton, and canola, and all four have been engineered not to die when sprayed with the company's herbicide.
01:17:06.000So if you spray a natural soy plant with Roundup herbicide, you'll kill it.
01:17:10.000But if you spray genetically engineered roundup ready soy or cotton or canola or corn, then it will not die.
01:17:18.000It's just all the rest of the biodiversity and weeds and plants in the field will die.
01:17:23.000Now, that means that we pour lots more herbicide on these crops.
01:17:27.000And then when you ingest them, you ingest higher levels of this herbicide, which also might cause reaction.
01:17:34.000In addition, mice that were fed genetically engineered soy had problems with their livers, suggesting that there was a toxic insult, and their pancreas cells had changes which reduced the amount of enzymes needed to digest food.
01:17:49.000And we now similarly see all sorts of previously rare cancers skyrocketing, juvenile onset of all these cancers, mimicking what we see in the lab animals.
01:17:59.000And any one of which could easily be from genetically engineered foods, because it's totally a genetic roulette.
01:18:04.000One of the things is, when you insert this gene cassette, which they blast into the crop, you have what's called a promoter, an on-switch, which can not only just turn on this foreign gene, but it might switch on any other gene in the DNA permanently, causing it to overproduce.
01:18:21.000And that's why it's affecting embryos in mammals?
01:18:24.000Well, I mean, we don't actually know why it's affected.
01:18:27.000We know it has affected it, but the problem is, there's not enough studies to identify the causation.
01:18:32.000Good God, this... And when we get back, they're now expanding it out into every crop you can imagine.
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01:24:04.000And it's sort of, I decided to weave the science of genetic engineering into the stories of how scientists were fired, stripped of responsibilities, forced out, how regulatory agencies were hijacked by the biotech industry, offered bribes, stalked with people with the biotech company's own personnel, how they rigged research, how Fox TV reporters were
01:24:29.000Threatened by Monsanto's attorney promising dire consequences to Fox and Rupert Murdoch if they ran a five-part news series on the bovine growth hormone.
01:24:39.000How a senior professor from UC Berkeley was threatened by a Mexican official who allegedly said, we know where your children go to school, trying to get them to not publish incriminating evidence.
01:24:51.000So I dug out the dark underbelly of GMOs and turned them into a series of stories And I weave the science into those stories so people can understand the risks that these foods present.
01:25:03.000Now, GMOs are obviously the most dangerous, but just going back to with what Searle did when they had good old Rumsfeld, it was later at Monsanto running it, and almost all, and I've read the study on air, almost all the monkeys they gave aspartame to, the baby monkeys died, and they still approved it!
01:25:22.000I mean, it's like, and so out of that culture grows this.
01:25:26.000In fact, the aspartame is the product of genetically engineered microorganisms, so it is in the category that I report on.
01:25:34.000Well, let's try to spend some time on that.
01:25:36.000I'm sad we only have an hour with you today.
01:25:37.000Please continue with the health effects you were getting into.
01:25:41.000Okay, there's at least two more major categories I want to discuss.
01:25:47.000One is there's two traits that are genetically engineered.
01:25:51.000We already talked about herbicide tolerance, the ability to spray a genetically engineered crop with herbicide and not kill it.
01:25:57.000The other is there's about 20% of the crops are engineered to produce their own insecticide in every cell and in every bite.
01:26:04.000It's called BT for Bacillus thuringiensis.
01:26:07.000It's used in organic agriculture in its natural form as a bacteria, but it's not necessarily safe.
01:26:15.000In fact, if you ask the biotech industry and the Food and Drug Administration, the EPA, about BT toxin, they say, oh, no, don't worry about it.
01:26:27.000Well, they ignore the fact that about 500 Americans and Canadians had allergic reactions when it was used for spraying gypsy moth infestation.
01:26:35.000They ignore the fact that when BT toxin was fed to mice, The mice had damaged intestines and an immune response as powerful as cholera toxin.
01:26:44.000But plus, it's been genetically altered and put inside, not a little bit of fungus on the outside.
01:26:49.000Exactly, and it's designed to be in concentrations thousands of times greater than in the spray form.
01:26:56.000It's designed to be more toxic than the spray form.
01:26:58.000It has properties of a known allergen.
01:27:01.000And so, they just put it in the food supply and assume it's safe, and don't do any testing on human beings to find out if it's safe.
01:27:09.000Allergen, we've been desensitized to that term, like, oh, it's an allergy.
01:27:12.000An allergy is when your body is fighting against something, saying, this is hurting me.
01:27:17.000And that's what's happening now with Indian farm workers who are picking genetically engineered cotton, engineered to produce this BT toxin.
01:27:25.000Just by touching the cotton, by loading it onto trucks, by leaning against it, They're developing allergic reactions, some having to go to the hospital.
01:27:33.000And the allergic symptoms are exactly the same as those of the 500 Americans and Canadians who complained of allergic reactions when they were sprayed with the BT in its natural form.
01:27:44.000Then in India, they allow sheep to graze on the cotton plants after harvest, and within a week of grazing, one out of every four sheep are dead.
01:27:53.000An estimated 10,000 sheep died in the region.
01:27:56.000Now you also have the fact that genetic engineering causes unpredicted side effects in the growing.
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01:28:17.000In fact, the BT corn, the corn engineered to produce this toxin, has been associated by farmers with thousands of sterile pigs, Hundreds of sterile cows... Well, most of the farmers I talk to say their animals won't even eat it, unless you mix it in with some sugar.
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01:32:14.000I'm going to ask our prestigious guest about how they're testing and using hundreds of different genetically engineered bacteria and viruses in the oceans for spills, chemical spills and things.
01:32:25.000Also, callers are calling and wanting to know about the Doomsday Vault.
01:32:41.000You know, growing up, my parents sponsored two different children through Children International.
01:32:48.000My uncle for more than, and aunt for more than 12 years, sponsored a young child, and they know people involved with Children International, so I've taken up their challenge in the next month to get 200 children sponsored.
01:33:05.000I meant to do it yesterday, because we just took this challenge up yesterday.
01:33:08.000I've got an app for the show today going there, and you can even sponsor kids in the U.S.
01:33:12.000The difference is you can't learn their identity for some reason.
01:33:15.000You do get the letters from them and the photos from kids in the third world, but I'm going to sponsor a kid in the U.S., and I'm going to sponsor someone in the third world, probably Africa, because that's the worst hit, though they all need it.
01:33:27.000I mean, I'm on the Children International site right now.
01:33:29.000You go to InfoWars.com and link through to our challenge page.
01:33:33.000Uh, Ellie desperately needs your help for the next 10 minutes.
01:33:36.000We are holding Ellie while you consider sponsoring her.
01:34:24.000As tough as it is financially here in the U.S.
01:34:28.000Uh, it's a lot tougher in the third world.
01:34:29.000Instead of giving your money to these big, fat, warmongering, neocon preachers that are all over television, you need to tithe in this type of way, especially Christians out there.
01:34:38.000And if you're not giving back, I give to Meals on Wheels, I give to, um...
01:35:16.000Well, you made a very good point about some of the people you talked to describe how animals will not eat genetically engineered feed when given the choice.
01:35:25.000We've seen that with geese, cows, pigs, elk, deer, raccoons, squirrels, mice, and rats.
01:35:35.000So it's my job to get people up to the level of animals.
01:35:39.000It's on my website at seedsofdeception.com.
01:35:42.000One of the most shocking results that really motivate people to avoid eating genetically engineered foods came in the only human feeding experiment ever conducted on GMOs.
01:35:55.000Now, this was to determine whether or not genes survive digestion, because this was a big concern among the FDA.
01:36:04.000In fact, the British Medical Association, which called for a moratorium GMOs linked this as one of the reasons.
01:36:10.000They were concerned that genes from genetically engineered plants might transfer into the DNA of human gut bacteria.
01:36:19.000Now what they were concerned about was the antibiotic resistant marker gene that's used in GM crops that could end up creating bacterial diseases that are accidentally engineered to withstand medicines, to withstand antibiotics.
01:36:36.000And so The biotech industry told the FDA, oh don't worry, genes are destroyed during digestion, transfer into the DNA of human gut bacteria is not possible.
01:36:47.000So they took seven, after years and years, late in 2002, they finally did a test.
01:36:53.000They took seven human volunteers, and these volunteers had colostomy bags, they had their lower intestines removed, not for the study, and they fed them genetically engineered soy burgers and soy milkshakes, and they found, to their surprise, How much intact genetically engineered soy had survived digestion through the stomach and small intestine and ended up in the colostomy bag?
01:37:16.000Well look at the Crohn's-type diseases are exploding.
01:37:18.000Everybody I know seems to have intestinal problems and then the universities in Germany found what's killing the honeybees predominantly is that this bacteria that has been genetically engineered in these crops is getting into the honeybees and frying their little gut.
01:37:35.000Well, you're getting ahead of me because that's exactly what they found.
01:37:38.000The next thing that they checked, they looked inside the bacteria before they fed these people the burger and milkshake, and they found that in three of the seven human volunteers, the gene that had been inserted into the soybean to make the soybean resist death by herbicide, that herbicide-tolerant gene, had transferred from some soy food they had eaten in the past and had taken up residence In the DNA of their gut bacteria, and continue to function.
01:38:07.000Which means, long after they stop eating genetically engineered soybeans, they're still producing this foreign, genetically engineered protein inside their own intestines.
01:38:18.000Now, a corollary to this, a corollary to this, and I hate to interrupt him, I want listeners to know, you're only giving them the base stuff, as scary as it sounds, it gets much worse.
01:38:26.000In over 90 percent, these are federal studies, but they haven't gotten a lot of attention, of people with Crohn's disease, and also in autistic children, they are finding the measles virus from the vaccine in their gut.
01:38:40.000So again, you take something that's been genetically modified in a vaccine, and it's frying the guts.
01:38:47.000Yes, and the thing is, the gut bacteria is very important.
01:38:50.000In fact, there are ten times more cells in our gut bacteria than there are in our entire body.
01:38:57.000The gut bacteria is used for creating vitamins and minerals, it's used as part of the immune system, and it's used as part of digestion.
01:39:04.000Now consider what would happen if you eat a genetically engineered corn chip.
01:39:08.000Now, corn is genetically engineered predominantly to produce a pesticide.
01:39:14.000If the gene that produces this pesticide were to transfer to the DNA of your gut bacteria, it might theoretically transform your intestinal flora into living pesticide factories Possibly for the long term.
01:39:28.000So, this is a completely possible scenario.
01:39:32.000But you say possible, they're covering it up!
01:39:37.000Now, when I talk about this at medical conferences, and I've been to several, the doctors come up to me afterwards and what they say consistently is, you know, we've seen a lot of gastrointestinal problems in the last ten years.
01:39:48.000Maybe it's this colonization of the gut bacteria from genes that have been inserted into crops.
01:39:55.000Now, the biotic industry, when I've debated them, they'll come back with a really wimpy argument saying, oh well, if genes transferred from plants, we'd be green, we'd have the photosynthesis.
01:40:06.000If genes transferred from plants, it would happen all the time.
01:40:10.000But they completely neglect the fact that there are natural barriers from genes transferring from plant genes into bacteria DNA.
01:40:19.000But, with genetically engineered crops, they put in genes from the bacteria into the plant.
01:40:26.000Which is animal, which is able to transfer over and is.
01:40:32.000And all of the natural barriers that we know about that prevent transfer from plant genes into bacteria are overcome and stripped away from genetic engineering.
01:40:42.000Since you bring up their spin, this is the Rush Limbaugh talking point.
01:40:45.000They say, George Washington Carver crossed plants and got different varieties.
01:40:50.000Well, that was using natural breeding, like breeding dogs or horses.
01:40:54.000You weren't changing any of the original DNA.
01:40:56.000You were taking the animal with different characteristics and going for that, and you still get some problems.
01:41:05.000If you take a bacteria and stick a cockroach gene and a plant gene in it, and maybe 15 other genes, and then stick it in a corn plant, that's totally separate.
01:41:48.000First, you can buy products that say organic.
01:41:51.000Second, which the organic products are not allowed to use GM inputs.
01:41:56.000Second, you can buy products which have voluntary labels on it that say non-GMO or made without genetically modified ingredients.
01:42:04.000Third, you can consult a shopping guide, which you can find on our website at seedsofdeception.com under how to avoid GM foods.
01:42:13.000And fourth, you can learn what the at-risk ingredients are and read the panels on the side of the packages to make sure it doesn't contain one of the seven genetically engineered crops in North America.
01:42:27.000And that is soy, corn, cotton, and canola.
01:42:51.000You've got to at least start trying to discover how to eat organic.
01:42:55.000Now, I want to expand on this, though, because the feds have tried to come in now because we forced a lot of stores to start adopting organic, or at least non-GMO, you know, which means it's not organic practices to give you the plant.
01:43:07.000It's still pesticides and things for listeners that don't know, but at least there's not It's on a chimera.
01:43:12.000It hasn't had genes shot into it, so it's at least a little bit... I mean, pesticides a lot better than, you know, some little bacteria that's been GMO'd.
01:43:19.000But now they're coming in trying to, as you know, but I mean, I'm telling the listeners this, trying to change it where they can certify something organic if it's 75% altered.
01:43:29.000They're trying to not let milk companies and cheese and yogurt from the products say we don't have these dangerous Uh, hormones that have been synthetically made that are making three-year-old girls in mass go into puberty now.
01:43:45.000We're waking up, taking action, so they're fighting back.
01:43:49.000And then the even bigger threat on top of that, you know, after you explained to us how they're trying to block us and how we can fight back, Is that if we don't stop them now, we only have, you know, a few dozen things that they've planted worldwide on a mass scale that we're now eating.
01:44:03.000As he said, the seven major food crops.
01:44:05.000The problem is they've got thousands of labs integrating into, you know, trees that produce oils, essential oils, into grasses, into everything.
01:44:22.000I mean, I know I'm shotgunning myself here, but that's what goes on in my mind.
01:44:26.000Yes, in fact, the pollen issue is a problem.
01:44:29.000In the Philippines, they found that a certain variety of genetically modified corn that produced its own toxin apparently was responsible for skin, respiratory, and intestinal reactions and fever.
01:44:40.000In five different villages that planted this genetically engineered variety.
01:44:46.000Yeah, that's also a possibility, although I wouldn't say it would be the primary cause, because there are some bee deaths in countries where there's very little acreage, but it could be a contributory factor, and yes, the genes do transfer to gut microorganisms inside the bee, and yes, but when they take the pollen from these pesticide-producing corn plants, their immune system is compromised.
01:45:19.000There is a genetically engineered drug called Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone, RBGH, or it's also called RBST, and it's from Monsanto.
01:45:31.000And this will take a long time to discuss all the details, but essentially They injected into dairy cows to increase milk supply.
01:45:39.000The biggest health concern is that the milk has higher levels of a hormone called IGF-1, and that that is very deeply linked to cancer and an increased rate of fraternal twins.
01:45:51.000And right now, because the person in charge of policy at the FDA, when that was approved, was Monsanto's former attorney, they don't require labeling of dairy products When the cows are injected.
01:46:02.000In fact, if a company wants to label their product as made without the use of this drug, that Monsanto has sued companies to say that it's illegal.
01:46:13.000Now they're trying to get states like Pennsylvania, Kansas, Utah, Indiana, Missouri to make it illegal for dairies ...to label their products as free from the use of this hormone.
01:46:24.000In a supposed free society, they're suing and blocking.
01:46:28.000I remember four or five years ago, you'd see it on the milk.
01:46:32.000Well, what's happening is, in the last two years, there's been so much consumer education toward the tipping point to drive this off the market, that about 40 out of the top 100 dairies have committed to stop using RBGH in some or all of their products.
01:46:46.000And that includes Starbucks, who took it out of their company brands by the end of last year, Kroger, that took it out by this month.
01:46:52.000And this is the good news, is that you and others, all of us together, we're having a victory!
01:47:00.000In fact, you know, the tipping point concept is very real.
01:47:03.000In 1999, in January, a biotech company was projecting a 95% takeover of all commercial seeds within five years.
01:47:13.000But within a month, their ideal future crashed because a food scandal erupted about GMOs and GM food safety in Europe.
01:47:21.000Within two months after that high-profile event, in a single week, virtually every major food company in Europe committed to remove GM ingredients from their European brands because it had become a liability because consumers were taking steps to protect themselves.
01:47:36.000My organization, the Institute for Responsible Technology, has a plan in place to achieve that same type of tipping point in the U.S.
01:47:43.000Before the end of 2009, simply by informing consumers about the type of health dangers we've talked about today, plus many more, and putting in their hands a non-GMO shopping guide so that they will shift their purchases to those wise companies that don't use GMOs, Making it a marketing liability for those that do.
01:48:03.000And let's be clear, this is literally life and death.
01:48:07.000The biosphere is, this is the real environmental crisis.
01:48:30.000There's 172 different species that have been field trialed in the United States alone.
01:48:35.000That means that they have a version of a genetically engineered food to replace virtually all the natural food on the shelves and in the gardens and in the field.
01:48:45.000Now, they're trying to introduce the next major crop in the United States for the first time in over a decade, genetically engineered sugar beets.
01:48:54.000The sugar beet industry wants to plant them starting this year, which will contaminate the sugar in the United States and around the world by the end of this year.
01:49:01.000So we are in a very pitched battle right now to stop the introduction of GMOs and to demonstrate to the food industry that GMOs in general are going to be a Very rapidly, a liability for selling.
01:49:15.000And you haven't even gotten into how, what, 97% of the ancient Mexican corn crops have been infected with just one man's Monsanto variety.
01:49:25.000You haven't even gotten into how these GMO crops are taking over the original crops.
01:49:31.000Yes, that's some of the real bad news.
01:49:33.000Yeah, we're going to have to have you back up for two hours in the next few weeks.
01:49:37.000This is an unbelievable final segment with our guests.
01:49:40.000We've got listeners wanting to know about the Doomsday Vault that the elites have built.
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01:53:28.000If we don't turn this around, and I want you to get his books, I want you to get his videos, they got some very good packages, that's their website, and I want you to have showings at your library, everywhere.
01:53:41.000And tell all the environmentalists who've been caught by the corporates, the corporates know there's people waking up, so they give you little, you know, light bulbs and bags and band bottles.
01:54:32.000In fact, a friend of mine was debating with someone from USAID in South Africa, and when the TV cameras went down, they continued to argue, and at one point she said, you just wait.
01:54:42.000We'll have so much genetically modified corn in South Africa that no one in Africa can plant non-GM corn.
01:55:05.000Because I want to plug the book again.
01:55:06.000Again, ladies and gentlemen, if we don't cause a massive awakening now, this is going to get firmly entrenched, spread throughout the biosphere, spreading into other plants already.
01:55:19.000The mindset of these companies, though, how are the people that work at them so evil?
01:55:23.000Don't they care about their own families?
01:55:25.000Well, you know, I interviewed someone from Monsanto who had left the company, and he was recruited in 97, and he actually evaluated the words of the then CEO, Robert Shapiro, who promised great things for the world from genetic engineering and pressed the heck out of this guy.
01:55:41.000And so during the employee orientation in Monsanto's headquarters, He whacked philosophical about what he was doing for the world.
01:55:48.000He got pulled over after the meeting by a vice president and said, wait a minute, what the CEO, Robert Shapiro, says is one thing, what we do is something else.
01:56:01.000Yeah, well, we're going to feed the Africans, but the Africans are smart enough to let this stuff rot on the dock.
01:56:06.000Yeah, when I spoke to the House of Chiefs in Zambia, first of all, I apologize on behalf of the United States, which tried to bully them.
01:56:12.000To take genetically engineered food aid, and I applauded them for resisting it, because, of course, feeding 80% or 90% of the caloric intake as genetically engineered corn to people that are already immuno-suffering and malnourished would be a disaster!
01:56:28.000You know, in a sick way, though, by you and others stopping them from poisoning people en masse, it actually, in a sick way, lets them continue.
01:56:35.000If you just let it go into Africa and then it killed a bunch of people, we might be able to stop it.
01:56:39.000I'm not saying do that, but, I mean, do you see the point I'm making?
01:56:42.000I am, but we started the segment, we started the show talking about how L-tryptophan had killed 100 Americans and caused 5 to 10,000 to fall sick, and how difficult it was to even trace it to the L-tryptophan.
01:56:52.000If we saw a lot of people dying, they could easily let it go and not attribute it to genetically engineered food.
01:56:59.000Well, they're already doing that because they don't teach the doctors through the American Medical Association how to diagnose unless, like you said, it's incredibly acute.
01:58:58.000Well, I think that I want to Describe what's happening currently because it may be in a state from some of the listeners and they could participate in expressing outrage to their state assemblymen or the Department of Agriculture.
01:59:11.000Monsanto is backed against the corner because the tipping point is occurring against genetically engineered bovine growth hormones.
01:59:19.000And so starting in October in Pennsylvania, the Department of Agriculture, the Secretary of Ag passed a ruling saying it was illegal For companies to label their products as RBGH-free, or as they say, RBST-free.
01:59:35.000And there was such an outcry that the governor's office stopped the ruling and said, we're going to delay it by a month to review.
01:59:42.000And he finally came out with a compromise plan that allowed for the labeling, but required this bogus sentence saying that according to the FDA, there's no difference in milk from cows treated with RBGH or not.
01:59:54.000And that bogus sentence was written by Monsanto's former attorney, Who was in charge of policy at the FDA, and it's a lie.
02:00:01.000There's a significant difference between the milk from cows treated with RBGH.
02:00:05.000It has higher levels of IGF-1, which is linked to cancer, and I mean very linked to cancer.
02:00:10.000Women with high levels of IGF-1, who are premenopausal, are seven times more likely to develop breast cancer.
02:00:16.000Men are four times more likely to develop prostate cancer, and it's in much higher levels in milk from cows treated with RBGH.
02:00:23.000So, unfortunately we have sort of won in Pennsylvania, we've sort of won in Utah, but it's being fought now, I mean in Ohio.
02:00:34.000We're lobbying right now Kansas, Missouri, and Utah are the main ones right now.
02:00:41.000Okay, in closing, because Elizabeth will get mad I forgot this question, the Doomsday Vault that they've built, a hundred, a thousand kilometers from the North Pole, filled with all of the seed stock that hasn't been contaminated.
02:00:53.000Well, certainly these type of vaults are all over the planet, and they're not often well kept up.
02:01:01.000And sometimes a biotech company will sort of take an ownership interest in them so that they can have access to the germplasm to genetically engineer it, patent it, and then further their plans to control the world's food supply.
02:01:14.000I happen to know Carrie Fowler, who is the director of the Norwegian He's a very good man, and he has a very good dream for protecting the world's seed supply for the long term.
02:01:25.000Now, whether or not the corporate interests are involved in it and what their level of interest is and what their level of ability to manipulate that, it's hard to say.
02:01:35.000But this is something that's of fundamental importance to protect the biodiversity.
02:01:39.000When the Green Revolution was started in India, they had 250,000 varieties of rice.
02:01:45.000They knocked it down to a few hundred.
02:01:47.000And by the way, I've got to stop you again because we're almost out of time here.
02:02:36.000We'll be back with Daniel Hustleman from Spain.
02:02:39.000And then a lot more, ladies and gentlemen.
02:02:41.000We're living in very interesting times.
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02:07:05.000Wealthy individuals in the developed world have been among the greatest beneficiaries of globalization, leading a search for the highest risk-adjusted returns that have spread through other economies and social classes and into almost every nation in the world.
02:07:21.000Now, then there's the flip side to that.
02:07:22.000Just hang on a second, I'm going to flip to it.
02:07:25.000The same people are talking about at the opposite end of the spectrum.
02:07:28.000The other great beneficiaries of globalization, the wealthy, will have both altruistic and self-interested reasons to demonstrate that economic freedom.
02:07:39.000Now, again, very, very important, we're talking about one world, we're talking about wealth, and what is the clincher for this point is, they're talking about in the same report, and this is the sentence, they're talking about where does one find a legitimate base For the power of corporate management to make decisions that can profoundly affect the economic life of nations.
02:08:00.000Well, this is very, very funny because... They're saying, which global government node do we use?
02:08:09.000And what's so interesting about that phrase, Alex, Again, this is paraphrasing almost to the letter what George Ball said in 1968 at the Bilderberg meeting in Montreux Blanc in Canada.
02:08:22.000And his phrase, and literally I found it in my book, it is, where does one find a legitimate base for the power of corporate management to make decisions that will affect the lives of nations to whose governments they have only limited responsibility?
02:08:39.000Again, the message itself is very, very clear.
02:08:42.000The idea is the wholesale destruction of nation states, the same point that people like David Rockefeller and Etienne d'Avignon and the Kissingers are talking about.
02:08:52.000But now their big debate is, do they use NATO, the UN?
02:08:56.000It's all part of the same structure run by the same people, but they're kind of searching, even in public discussions now, about what will be the prime dominant highest tower in this global government fortress From your inside knowledge of Milderberg and Davos and in Europe, what are they leaning towards?
02:09:59.000And that's one of the key things I think we have to understand and be very, very aware of.
02:10:04.000Another thing that they talked about this year at Davos, and again I'm reading from one of the reports called the New Hegemony, is global citizenship.
02:10:13.000Now what do you think is that all about?
02:10:16.000Well, global citizens are minions of a global government.
02:10:21.000And again, it goes back to the same ideas we talked about before.
02:10:25.000How do you establish a David Rockefeller, you know, utopian idea of the world, where supranational sovereignty of world bankers, you know, and superpowers, supersede national auto-determination practiced in past centuries?
02:10:39.000And of course, there are different ways of looking at it, but basically, The current parliamentary democracy works on a basis you have a head of state be it president or prime minister, you have a parliament which of course can be eliminated, taken out in any kind of A crisis situation.
02:10:54.000And then, of course, you have a third branch of government in charge of the financial system called the world over, the independent central banking systems.
02:11:02.000And we know how independent the Federal Reserve is, European Central Bank, and the Queen's Treasury in England.
02:11:08.000Of course, all of these institutions are heavily interlocked with Bilderberg, with New World Order, with Davos, with Trilateral Commission.
02:11:20.000Well, an example of you saying they're coming out, we know for 50 years they've had programs with toy makers and cartoon makers and that's been declassified, pushing world government, you know, the new Fantastic Four always helps the UN, the toys are all UN soldiers now, but now Marvel Comics admitting free comic books to all American school kids, Teaching them that world government is good, and villains fight world government.
02:11:49.000I mean, that's just base... Well, I didn't know that.
02:12:05.000Well, you know, another thing, speaking of base, another thing that these people talked about this year, that was, again, this is, they are being very, very careful because I think, again, this, you know, this will be the key idea is the destruction of nation states.
02:12:19.000Now, I got it from several people, which means It's obviously the truth.
02:12:22.000Now, you know, funny thing about the 20th century, I think, in my opinion, it will go down in future history as the century which is outstanding for the endless monotony of its popularly believed rise.
02:12:36.000Well, I think the 21st century, up to this point at least, It's outstanding in how, you know, openly these people are discussing and promoting their One World Order plans.
02:12:46.000And again, one of the key issues coming out of this year's Davos, and strangely enough, none of the multimedia corporate elite who were present actually talked about it.
02:12:57.000They spoke in droves about all these things they're going to do to help the world, but none of them spoke of the wholesale destruction plans For the nation-state, which is the basis of what we have in the world.
02:13:09.000Daniel, Daniel, Daniel, why are they suddenly so much more confident?
02:13:13.000Because it looks like they're having a lot of problems on many fronts.
02:13:21.000People are saying that they're having a lot of problems on a lot of fronts.
02:13:24.000I'm frankly not seeing it, because again, you see so many of them openly talking about, outspoken, about the same things that they were very hush-hush about Ten, fifteen years ago, they're coming out and openly talking about, at least in Europe they do it, I imagine, obviously in the United States and Canada as well, about the need to create a United Nations Army, about the need for the Rapid Reaction Force, which is a European version of European Army,
02:13:51.000About, you know, creating the North American Union, or as before, it was all dissimilated.
02:13:56.000And of course, how globalism works is because it is globalized.
02:14:00.000When they create a European Union, the US and Canada are already harmonizing publicly all their laws with them, and then Latin America harmonizes with us, and Asia harmonizes with Europe and the US.
02:14:11.000Aren't we really already under a global government?
02:14:13.000It's just... Well, you know, for instance, I think we are.
02:14:16.000You know, generally speaking, again, if you look at the European Union, it is one Big country made up of 27 nations.
02:14:24.000You have North America, Canada, United States and Mexico.
02:14:26.000And again, now with the latest, the American and Canadian armies are coming under one command, of course.
02:14:31.000Oh yeah, I wanted to get your take on that.
02:14:42.000Now they're just open... Well, you know, again, for the people who haven't, you know, who don't know the story, when I came this year, or last year in October, to promote my book in the United States, I came through Canada.
02:14:52.000Well, I was almost not let into my country, not really brought at home.
02:14:56.000The people who searched my bags were asking me the most ridiculous questions you can imagine.
02:15:01.000We're American security guards working through DIMCORP, contracted by the Canadian government, and they basically told me that we decide whether you get into Canada or not.
02:15:11.000And that really brought home that an American If people don't understand what that leads to, I think they better stick to Mickey Mouse and the Oscar nomination.
02:15:26.000Well, reading the SPP documents from September that we got last year, from September 06, North Com was running the meeting.
02:15:38.000When you and I were in Canada in 2006, in Granada, covering Bilderberg, you and I, in the time that we spent together with Jim Tucker, we were talking about all the stuff going down.
02:15:47.000And again, it goes all the way down back to 1996, when their plans were coming together for the creating of the North American Union by breaking Canada up.
02:15:56.000into French and English speaking Canada in order to merge the two parts together, Canada, English speaking, and the United States.
02:16:19.000The images of terrorists, just as in Stalinist Russia, there's terrorists in every street corner, has really brought it home who is running the show.
02:16:28.000And I don't know what the heck is going on, but I think, again, there is a reason why these people have lost their fear.
02:16:34.000I'm talking about the Bilderberg-led One World Order.
02:16:38.000Uh, I think, you know, all of this is coming together very, very quickly, and unfortunately, you know, they're basically saying to us, what you gonna do about it?
02:16:48.000Well, I agree with you, but could it be hubris?
02:16:50.000I mean, I'm trying to see some light at the end of the tunnel here, and could it be because we did expose them, now they're forced to come out and admit it, but try to put a good face on it?
02:16:58.000Well, you know, I think there's a little bit of both.
02:17:01.000I think they're closer to it than we would like and not as nearly as close as they would like.
02:17:06.000It's not coming together as quickly from their point of view and too quickly from ours.
02:17:11.000But again, I think what we're witnessing right now, and I think this is the only hope we have, It is the preservation of the nation's states, the idea that countries, constitutions, they cannot be touched, they're sacred.
02:17:24.000And again, for the people who are listening to the show for the first time, you better understand that the politicians, the mainstream politicians running for the elections in the United States, none of these people out there, the Clintons, the Obamas, the McCains, they do not represent your interests.
02:17:41.000They're working against the interests of the United States.
02:17:43.000Final segment with Dan O'Neill, last one, coming up.
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02:22:00.000Daniel, we've only got a few minutes left.
02:22:02.000Tell folks about your trip, some of the places you're going to be, and then go to danieleslerlin.com to learn more.
02:22:08.000I'm going to be in New York City for three days.
02:22:39.000The book is still ranked in the top 500 on Amazon.com.
02:22:43.000If I have about a minute and a half, Alex, I was thinking before the break of what you said, now what can we do?
02:22:48.000You know, I think if a people is to participate in self-government, they must participate in the ideas by which society is self-governed.
02:22:57.000Ignorant, illiterate people cannot participate competently in self-government because they do not understand the issues of government and what they are.
02:23:05.000Again, if you think about the 19th century African-American slaves, literacy literally was the first condition of freedom that I think is a key issue because again what the new world order build that we're just trying to do is to destroy to suppress our creative powers of reason because yeah they've dumbed us down they've massively dumbed us down and everybody else is obsessed with their iPods and so people better wake up or they're going to be slaves
02:23:33.000If we can wake up from the stupor, again, drunken stupor, I think it could literally mean the death of oligarchism, because nations which foster the creative mental development of their population produce people which will not tolerate oligarchical forms of rule indefinitely.
02:23:50.000Only illiterate and technologically backwards population will.
02:23:53.000Indeed, I think illiteracy and technological backwardness are contributing causes for the emergence of this oligarchical one world order rule.
02:24:02.000And again, all you need to do is just to look at the young United States as a federal republic as a demonstration of this point, because in the 18th century, the average American was culturally and economically superior to the average Britain of the 18th century.
02:25:07.000That's going to be coming out in Croatia.
02:25:10.000So we have the entire world for the exception of China and a couple of other nations.
02:25:15.000Daniel, I'm going to have Trey call you here in a minute and try to get you set up for a full hour to take calls while you're here in town next Monday.
02:26:56.000It's up on PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com right now.
02:27:00.000You can see it, go watch it after the show if you want to now.
02:27:01.000But we're going to play, John's trying to edit it down to like three minutes so I have time to play it because I've got a bunch of other stuff I want to cover when we get back.
02:27:11.000That's coming up, the final segment of the show, that's about 20 minutes away.
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02:31:57.000We just ordered that a week and a half ago.
02:32:00.000Another year's supply, and I'm probably going to buy some more.
02:32:05.000Because I want to give some to some family that can't afford it.
02:32:08.000With inflation exploding, and it's 4 point something percent with their Cook numbers on top of the 3 percent they were already claiming, it's really about 20 percent a year.
02:32:16.000It was 15 last year with private sources.
02:32:18.000Ron Paul schooled Bernanke on that two days ago, head of the Federal Reserve.
02:32:23.000With all this GMO, with all the food shortages, with the dollar going down in value, we're now a cheap place to buy it.
02:32:30.000So the third world's coming in and Europe's coming in and buying up all our main food crops.
02:32:38.000Well, hey, I'm glad to be here, Alex, and we've just seen some very interesting things.
02:32:43.000You know, you talked a little bit earlier about what we had been talking about a year ago, six months ago.
02:32:52.000A year ago, we broke the information about how the bees disappearing would affect the food supplies, and now, right now, we have the result of the shortages And all of the bee disappearance, they're pollinating about two-thirds of the food that we eat.
02:33:14.000And just this last weekend, 2020 came out with a big thing about the bees disappearing.
02:34:19.000A lot of times it's a flavor enhancer.
02:34:22.000It's used in a lot of the production of the food and a lot of the food storage organizations.
02:34:27.000You've got to realize a lot of these people aren't really into storable food supplies and knowing what it takes to keep the family healthy.
02:34:36.000They're marketers and they're just buying whatever they can throw into a can.
02:34:41.000It's getting quite dangerous because now that type of practice is life-threatening rather than just unethical.
02:34:47.000But we've had a situation come up here.
02:34:50.000I want to just touch on four things real quick that I think your listeners might be interested in.
02:34:56.000First of all, the reenactment of the bee thing.
02:34:59.000Now we're sitting in a situation that's the result of what's going on with the bees and now the media is just telling us about the bees.
02:35:05.000The second thing is this Doomsday Seed Repository.
02:35:10.000You and I talked about that about six months ago and told folks, hey listen, the same people that are genetically altering the food to make you glow in the dark, walk sideways and one eye travel to the other side of your head, and that are working with hybridizing and genetically altering and have created the Doomsday
02:35:31.000Or not the Doomsday, but the Terminator seed, which forces farmers all over the world to have to buy seed every year so that the food supply worldwide and nationwide is basically controlled.
02:35:43.000These are the guys that are building the Doomsday seed thing.
02:35:47.000And what that is, it's not a humanitarian effort like the news media came out with just two days ago and said how wonderful it is.
02:35:57.000The papers are also coming out and saying that no one person has a key to the vault.
02:36:02.000I was about to say that we had one of the top experts on GMO foods, the best selling author, I mean he has the book, it's the best selling out there, interviewing 30 scientists, that the Monsanto and others really own and control these vaults because they know they're going to contaminate everything and so they want to keep these seeds off the market.
02:36:23.000What they have to have is they have to have the mother seed that is a non-hybrid, a non-altered seed, so that they can modify... To get the original genetics to make more, yeah.
02:36:35.000And so that is coming out now after, you know, six months after we squalled and hollered about it.
02:36:42.000And listeners, all this means, folks, is that if you have your own supply Then you will not be dependent on those who would control the food supply.
02:36:53.000Now we've had another really interesting situation go on that I don't think I had a chance to mention with you, Alex.
02:37:03.000And that's one of our staffers here is married to a little gal from Japan.
02:37:08.000And Japan and China are really getting into it because Japan has to import an awful lot of its food from China, which is where we're importing a lot of our stuff from.
02:37:19.000and they're sending them the same poison-tainted stuff that we get, and they're just not standing there.
02:37:24.000And by we, you mean the United States, not your company.
02:37:31.000And so what's happening is the very stuff that you and I have been talking about that's coming in, the Chinese imports and the Mexican imports and the third world country imports that we try and guarantee, By we, meaning the J. Michael Stevens Group guarantees people that they aren't going to This stuff is causing international problems.
02:38:53.000And now, just before you brought me on, there was that announcement with regard to wheat prices and things, and I think that they announced that it was... More than doubled.
02:39:05.000My call from Charlie this morning, which is that same supplier that I was telling you about that does all of our packing, said that as of this morning, wheat was going for $22.75 a bushel.
02:39:28.000Folks, that looks like massive hyperinflation, and I'm seeing this in all the commodities.
02:39:32.000Look at gold going up to close to $1,000.
02:39:34.000Man, you know, Steve, it's when things are the scariest that...
02:39:39.000I don't want to scare people, but if it's not this year or next year or whatever, and we probably don't have to wait, unfortunately, the whole world's getting crazier, everything's getting nuttier, and I just believe in storable foods, and I know you're the best company out there with the best prices.
02:39:55.000You warned people to buy it before February 11th because there was going to be a price increase.
02:41:09.000And the difference between this, now one of the things that we tell folks, there are a couple of kinds of dehydrated foods.
02:41:19.000One is freeze-dried and the other one is the dehydrated.
02:41:23.000What we tell folks, now we're going to be handling a line of freeze-dried.
02:41:28.000We've had it available for quite some time, we just don't have it up on the website because it confuses people.
02:41:34.000The freeze-dried is about three times more expensive, takes four times the space, and is great for backpacking and camping.
02:41:42.000And what we tell folks, until they have a three to five year supply of the dehydrated, not even to waste the resources on freeze-dried, So don't be confused by that.
02:41:52.000One of the things that's happening, Alex, I think the folks from listening to you and from some of the things that we cover on Fearless Radio, my program, they realize that the food is absolutely excellent.
02:42:06.000One thing that happens any time there's a panic situation or a deep concern like we have among our listeners and that you and I convey You're going to have a whole bunch of opportunists and carpetbaggers hopping on the bandwagon.
02:42:23.000If you look at the number of food storage sites that are up right now compared to the ones that were even a month ago, it's just horrendous.
02:43:05.000Now, because of the fact that a lot of folks are already in a situation with the economy so that they really aren't in a position to throw in a 3, 4, 5 year supply, even a 1 year supply all at once, we came up with a 2 month supply.
02:43:21.000For $349 that is just absolutely phenomenal.
02:43:25.000It's got 200 meals and they're pretty much prepared so that all you do is add water and cook them.
02:43:30.000But there are a couple of things that I still need to cover with your listeners, Alex.
02:43:35.000We need to make an announcement with regard to the wheat.
02:43:39.000What we used to do up until about two months ago is we told folks when they ordered in their one year supply or multiples of the one year supply, That they could save quite a bit of money by picking up the wheat that would go with that out in their local areas.
02:43:58.000That is becoming more and more impossible, so now we've started making it available to folks, but as a result of this last bunch of foolishness that's going on in the marketplace, you've got to realize, think about this folks, the farmers that are growing the wheat Are not being subsidized, like the farmers are growing the corn that are putting into the ethanol.
02:44:24.000So as the dollar drops in value, what's going to also happen, not only is the wheat short, but what's going to happen is the farmers that have the wheat in their storage bins, getting ready to sell it, if the dollar isn't of much value, and these foreign countries come in with Euros and things like that, that do have value, they sell to them.
02:45:13.000Well, I tell you what, if you look at a food supply organization that has reasonable prices and is doing any kind of a sale right now, you run, don't walk away from them, because they're selling old stuff from inventory.
02:45:27.000What we're shipping out right now... That's right, the stuff you do is, what, usually about a month old?
02:45:43.000And so the reason we had this last price increase, and we're going to put some stuff up on the Internet as to what caused it, the reason we had it is we had to buy By the next bunch of stuff, and it was so expensive that we had to pass some of that along.
02:45:59.000I was at a pizza place a few weeks ago, Mangia, Great Pizza, and there was a sign-up saying, we're sorry the pizzas are 40% more, but milk's more, wheat's more, it may have to go up again.
02:46:10.000And now stores are, look, see, give them the number for the year's supply, the two-month supply, it's still very affordable compared to what the grocery store would cost.
02:46:40.000Now, I need to give you an alert, folks.
02:46:43.000Those of you who have ordered one-year supplies or multiples of it, And have not been able to find wheat in your local areas, please contact us.
02:46:53.000We will ship wheat, but we will only ship the amount of wheat to you that will match the number of your supplies you have.
02:47:00.000We have to conserve the wheat that we have.
02:47:02.000So you literally can only now sell wheat to prior customers?
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02:51:56.000Okay, we played this before, but now we got even more.
02:51:59.000This is a synopsis, about three and a half minutes, of Hillary Walter Cronkite, the head of the World Federalist Society, talking about bizarro stuff.
02:52:14.000World government is the structure necessary for global justice.
02:52:20.000You, sir, you, sir, have been a lifelong advocate of this principle, and it is appropriate, therefore, that we present you with this amethyst deal.
02:52:34.000Those of us who are living today can truly influence the future of civilization.
02:52:39.000We can influence whether our planet is going to live or die, whether it's going to drift into chaos and violence, or whether through a monumental educational and political effort, a monumental effort, we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law where individual violators of that law we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law where individual For how many thousands of years now have we humans Then what we insist on calling civilized.
02:53:07.000And yet, in total contradiction, we also persist in the savage belief that we must occasionally, at least, settle our arguments by killing each other.
02:53:16.000While we spend much of our time, and a great deal of our treasure, in preparing for war, we see no comparable effort in establishing peace.
02:53:25.000Meanwhile, emphasizing the swap in this regard, those advocates who work for world peace by urging a system of world law and order, world government, if you please, are called impractical dreamers to yield up some of our sovereignty.
02:53:41.000That's going to be, to many, a bitter pill.
02:53:44.000It would take a lot of courage, a lot of faith, A lot of persuasion for them to come along with us on this necessity.
02:53:54.000Today we must develop federal structures on a global level to deal with world problems.
02:54:00.000We need a system of enforceable world law, a democratic federal world government in our global village, all of which are going to have to be convinced to give up some of that sovereignty to the better, greater union.
02:54:16.000Most important, we should sign and ratify the Treaty for a Permanent International Criminal Court.
02:54:22.000That is now at the core of the World Federalist Movement's drive.
02:54:27.000That court will enable the world to hold individuals accountable for their crimes against humanity.
02:54:33.000Their leader, Pat Robertson, has written in a book a few years ago that we should have a world government, but only when the Messiah arrives.
02:54:46.000He wrote, and literally, any attempt to achieve world order before that time must be the work of the devil.
02:54:54.000I'm glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan.
02:54:58.000Good evening and congratulations, Walter.
02:55:01.000We honor you for lending your voice to the cause of human rights around the world and for your lifelong commitment to international human rights law.
02:55:10.000You have stirred our consciences and challenged all of us.
02:55:14.000Now again, see, oh, the global government will help us and give us peace, but it's the bloodthirsty New World Order killers that are running it and causing most of the problems.