Torture, the dark side of the law, and the people who enforce it. What would you do if you knew all of the things we knew, and stood up for truth, or would you turn away too?
00:00:22.000How much injustice would you stand for to satisfy the people we work for?
00:00:25.000Good evening, I... would like to report on the state of our war against the American people.
00:00:34.000Counting a sustained campaign to crack down on every American and every person of every faith and every nation and to bring them to justice.
00:00:46.000All missions are being executed according to plan without warning or provocation.
00:00:55.000Americans are being swept up in an international dragnet.
00:00:59.000Thousands of FBI agents are on the trail of other citizens.
00:01:04.000Everything to do with hate and evil and murder and prejudice.
00:02:04.000You in tune to a hard truth, soldiers spittin' I stay committed, give a shit if I lose commission It's all a part of fightin' devil state mind control And all about the battle for your body, mind and soul And now I'm hopin' you don't close your mind so they shape ya Don't forget they made us slaves, gave us slaves and raped us Another push season, mean another war for profit All in secret so the public never fit to stop it The Illuminati, triple six, all connected Stole a vote, stay control the race and take elections What would you do?
00:02:32.000That's the way the courtroom game is played around here, isn't it, Counselor?
00:02:52.000If you'll excuse me, I got some police work to do.
00:02:56.000Now ask yourself, who's the one with the most to gain?
00:02:59.0004-9-11 must be, just couldn't stand his name.
00:03:02.000Now even now, he's waving flags like they lost their mind.
00:03:05.000Everybody got opinions, but don't know the time.
00:03:07.000Cause America's been took, it's plain to see.
00:03:10.000The oldest trick in the book is make an enemy.
00:03:12.000A phony evil so the government can do its dirt.
00:03:15.000And take away your freedom, lock and load, get in search.
00:03:17.000Ain't nothing changed, but more colored people locked in prison.
00:03:20.000These pigs still beat us, but it seems we forgetting.
00:03:23.000But I remember 4 September, how these devils do it.
00:03:25.000Giuliani, ask Diallo how he doing We in the streets, holla jail to the thief Follow f**ks, waving flags, bring these dragons to their knees Oil, blood, money, make these killers ride cold Suspicious suicide, people dying never told It's all a part of playing God, so you think we need them While Ben Ashcroft, take away your rights to freedom Bear witness to the sickness of these dictators Hope you understand the time, brother, cause it's major Haven't you ever had any doubts about enforcing unjust laws?
00:03:54.000It's not for us to judge the law, but to enforce it.
00:04:30.000Ain't no villain, or any other word to think to demonize a country.
00:04:33.000Ain't no terror threat unless approval rating's slumping.
00:04:36.000So I'ma say it for the record, we the ones that planned it.
00:04:38.000Ain't no other country took apart or had their hand in.
00:04:41.000Just a way to keep you scary so you think you need them.
00:04:44.000Praising Bush while that killer take away your freedom.
00:04:46.000How many of us got discovered but ignore the symptoms?
00:04:49.000I'm talkin' loud but ain't nobody standin' And with the Fourth Amendment gone, I was on the first That's why I'm spittin' cyanide each and every verse I see the Carlisle Group and Harris Bank accounts I see them plead the fifth each and every session now And while white stag burns, see the public buy it I see the profile and see the media's compliance Wars paid for business, see the vicious make a savior Hope you understand the time, brother, cause it's major What would you do with you?
00:05:51.000Welcome and thank you for joining us on this eighth day of April.
00:05:56.000We're going to be live here now for the next two hours.
00:06:02.000That's right, I've decided to go ahead and do a fifth hour today till 4pm Central Time because I was going to be in studio already for like 30-45 minutes doing national out of London British radio, so we're going to do a simulcast with them in the next hour.
00:06:21.000A lot of news we're going to be covering, like the one here that I only got to briefly in the last hour.
00:07:26.000The next week I'm going to give you a sneak peek of my latest 9-11 film that's nearing completion.
00:07:31.000And I have a secret 9-11 film I've been working on for a while that will also be coming out by the end of the year, but I'm not going to talk about that right now.
00:07:40.000But I'll just let folks know that for those of you that have wanted to hear more about the Israeli angle, there's quite a bit of that in there.
00:07:48.000But there's some other information in there as well.
00:07:52.000Everyone just wants me to go all the way to the edge so they kill me.
00:07:55.000And I guess I've got to satisfy you or something.
00:07:59.000But we'll be covering it all on the show today.
00:08:06.000The number to join us is 512-646-5400.
00:08:10.000And we also have another camera in here.
00:08:15.000Usually we're going to use that camera on the guest that'll be sitting right over there.
00:08:20.000We're going to start having guests at least every week.
00:08:22.000We normally do anyways in studio and we'll hold them over into the fourth hour or have them just in the fourth hour and just a lot more coming up.
00:08:30.000So we are all very, very excited about this.
00:08:37.000See, now you have the document cam, you can see me drinking tea.
00:08:42.000My only vice I have left is a cup of coffee in the morning and a cup of tea in the afternoon.
00:09:19.000Hey, there's been something about the North American Union that I've been wanting to call you about.
00:09:23.000Today turned out to be a really good day to do it because of the article that's in the New York Times.
00:09:28.000I think one of the reasons that they want to dissolve the borders is, I believe, the American oil industry wants to recapture the Mexican oil industry.
00:09:36.000They were kicked out of Mexico in 1938, when Mexico nationalized their oil industry, and I've never heard anybody really talk about this.
00:09:45.000One of the comments that is in the paper is, in Mexico, it's a symbol of sovereignty and nationalism, and I have a feeling that the Reconquista people, if they really knew more about this, they would be You know, once again waking up to how they're being used.
00:11:39.000And I turned you down, and I started telling him about it, and I went off on this tirade.
00:11:43.000And by the time I'm done, I was just so overloaded with information.
00:11:47.000He was thinking that Ted Turner was the head of some crazy conspiracy to wipe out a huge population on the planet, which, you know, wasn't the point that I tried to make at all.
00:11:58.000When you're trying to wake somebody up to, you know, what's really going on in the world, we lack a lot of efficiency, you know, in informing the people because we don't have a predetermined strategy.
00:12:07.000So I figured a solution to this, right?
00:12:10.000If we sit down, you know, during the day and we think up, you know, two, three arguments that we can have, you know, pre-prepared to tell someone when you're trying to wake them up, then I think we'll have a greater success rate in, you know, allowing them to see, you know, 9-11, the New World Order, the eugenics front.
00:12:27.000Rhett, I think it's six one way, half a dozen another.
00:12:30.000I think it's more confidence that's important because everybody goes off as someone telling them something in a confident way, and that's the key to sales, and then giving them documents and saying, hey, there's a lot of kooky conspiracy people, but...
00:12:43.000But there's also a lot of stuff that's true.
00:12:52.000But also, let me just add, that it's six one way, half does the other.
00:12:56.000Some people, it's effective to be smooth about it and slow.
00:12:59.000Others, it's better to hit them upside the head with a psychological two-by-four.
00:13:04.000And I think I've been the most effective out there of any one person fighting the New World Order.
00:13:08.000I mean, that's what everybody says, and I think that's really true, which is quite a weight on me, because I'm not that good at this, but I think it is because I am aggressive and in your face, and people also can resonate in their guts, they know I'm telling the truth, and so they resonate.
00:13:22.000My great frustration is I seem to wake up so many people, You're a huge rallying point for everybody.
00:13:28.000order, and then they run off and get into all the kooky, weird groups that are full of bull.
00:13:36.000You're a huge rallying point for everybody.
00:13:39.000I mean, there's no group, the Alex Jones audience, you know, we all look to you as a flag or a standard, you know.
00:13:45.000You're the flag bearer behind all of this.
00:13:47.000I better do a good job, that's all I can say.
00:13:50.000Anyway, so I made a small promotion for the most effective way, I studied marketing, the most effective way to wake people up.
00:13:58.000If we have a few predetermined, you know, not arguments, but you know, speeches we can give to someone, you know, just an everyday conversation.
00:14:10.000Say, you know, I can send you this on YouTube or I can send you Well, I agree with you and I really appreciate you calling into the show today, Rhett.
00:14:15.000not anything too long, maybe five, ten minutes, just don't overload them.
00:14:19.000Get their information and then stay in contact with them.
00:14:23.000We really have to go out of our way here, really put an effort into waking people up to this global agenda that's threatening America.
00:14:30.000Well, I agree with you and I really appreciate you calling into the show today, Rhett.
00:14:37.000Now let's go ahead and talk to William in Texas.
00:14:43.000I tell you, you woke me up a number of years ago.
00:14:47.000Dealing with that second amendment rights, I wanted to find out what your opinion is on the license to carry, whether you think that would be a good idea for an individual.
00:14:57.000And one other quick thing, and I'll get out of your way here on that, is that excerpt book, Brave New World Revisited, is a really good overview of some of the information on the New World Order How long it's been going on.
00:15:11.000Yeah, Aldous Huxley wrote Brave New World in 33, or he wrote it in 32, published 32, from memory, if that serves.
00:15:19.000And then he wrote Revisited in the 50s, right?
00:15:24.000I need to read them again, but Huxley, before he died, and by the way, some of those clips are in Endgame, but on the website we put the whole hour-long speech at Berkeley, two months before he died.
00:15:36.000And he came out and eloquently laid out, and he's from one of the most elite families in England, one of the wealthiest, that no, he wrote this in 33 because this is what they were planning to do and that the science then knew about cloning people to be a slave class and dumbing down with injections and poisons in the water of the subclasses.
00:15:56.000And so then, you know, those guys were in power a hundred years ago.
00:16:00.000Fifty years ago, they're in power today.
00:16:04.000So go ahead, tell us about Brave New World Revisited.
00:16:06.000Well, it gives a short synopsis on the Brave New World, the first issue and that, but what it does, it really gives you a perspective as to where they were, how much information was available at that time, and where they're coming from, and how we can better have an idea of what's already in place way back even at that time frame.
00:16:27.000Well, you can see how the architects of the New World Order, as they call themselves, the social engineers, just keep building on the same plans, and they adjust a little, but it's a great work of art to them.
00:16:38.000It's like a director, Ridley Scott, making Blade Runner.
00:16:58.000Well, let me just let you go and I'll try to give you my take on it.
00:17:01.000I mean, do you want to give us your take on it first?
00:17:03.000Well, I'm just, it's one of these things I've been considering, but I'm just a little leery with all that fingerprinting and information that they have, you know, available.
00:17:12.000Yeah, it's a gun registration is what it is.
00:17:23.000If you look at Vermont, or you look at Arizona, where they have just right to carry whatever you want.
00:17:31.000Have the gun, have it concealed, not concealed, wear it in plain view.
00:17:35.000Now it goes back to Anglo-Saxon common law that all free men had arms.
00:17:41.000The symbol of being free, not being a slave, was you had arms.
00:17:44.000Swords, and then going back 600 years ago, handguns, rifles, blunderbuss, things of that nature.
00:17:52.000And so But the law was you were an assassin or a thief if you hid your arms.
00:18:01.000And so it was against Anglo-Saxon common law that was Germanic and Norman and Celtic law mixed together with a smattering of Mosaic law, because that had been Christianized by then.
00:18:16.000But unusually enough, the Mosaic or Jewish law It was very similar to the Anglo-Saxon, which is kind of an ancient common law.
00:18:27.000Tribes all over the world had similar laws.
00:18:29.000In an African village 5,000 years ago, the men all could have arms, from the other tribe and from animals.
00:18:39.000That's how you could have the Jewish law the same as the Germanic law, very similar.
00:18:44.000So that's where we get the idea in our law that you can't have a concealed gun.
00:18:51.000So that's why the government comes in and tricks you and says, oh, you've got to get a permit for a concealed carry.
00:18:57.000Because under common law and under the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Federalist Papers, Second Amendment, you can have rifles, handguns, whatever, you just can't conceal them.
00:19:07.000So a license is an authorization to do something that would be illegal.
00:19:15.000Like, I have a hunting license to hunt in the king's land.
00:19:18.00090 plus percent of the land in England or France, you know, feudal Europe, would be off limits to the serfs as a control mechanism, but sometimes the king would want food brought into his table or into his lord's table, and they'd say, okay, here is a license on leather for two bucks, or five rabbits, or six pheasants.
00:19:38.000And then you were the, you know, the people that lived in government housing in and around the local lords who served them.
00:19:47.000They got to, you know, go out and they got to eat and they got to live and they got to do okay.
00:19:52.000But the little serfs living out, you know, who had to give 25% of all their grain or whatever they produced each year as a tax, they were kept at a subsistence level and were never allowed to enjoy meat.
00:20:07.000So it's all a control mechanism, so it's a trick.
00:20:10.000Whereas, except in a few states like Illinois, New York, a few others, where you can't have the guns openly, they come into states... See, in New York, 60 plus years ago, they came in and said, oh, just get a permit to have a gun, and it was $5, and you know, and they did, and then suddenly, oh, we don't give those permits anymore.
00:20:26.000They incrementally made it harder and harder.
00:20:30.000They come into Florida, they come into Texas, they come into all these great states, what, thirty-something of them now, and they get everybody used to having a license, having a license.
00:20:39.000And so the most pro-gun people, who are apt to have a big collection, a big arsenal, now you're registered, fingerprinted, you're in the system, you've got to tell the cop you've got a gun when they come up.
00:20:51.000You have gone into probation, and you think you've gotten some special right.
00:20:56.000Because the police state is so bad in most of these states, and because cops will still arrest you even when you're not breaking a gun law, they'll say it's their discretion, it's not a bad thing if you're a business owner or carry a lot of money or be in threats to have the concealed carry just so you don't get into trouble with these people.
00:21:39.000And they're just waiting with all these zones you can't go into.
00:21:43.000I am for the Vermont concealed carry, or carry law, where they just say, hey, it's in the constitution of the state, it's in the federal constitution, you can carry a gun.
00:21:52.000Like, take Texas, it's all being under common law attack.
00:21:55.000You put a rifle up in your, just ten years ago you still saw this, up in your truck, and you drive down the road, even in the country, cops are going to pull you over.
00:22:06.000And they'll search you and put guns to your head and freak out and ask why you got it.
00:23:08.000Well if you just stop bending over to all this, and if you would just mobilize gun owners at the state level, and stop sitting there sucking your thumb, we could turn this around.
00:23:16.000I'm going to talk about that before the hour ends.
00:24:14.000I hadn't heard of it until I heard the advertisement on the Genesis show, and it basically, it's just something you add to the engine of your car that sends the air going in, in a vortex.
00:24:29.000Basically, it... Well, I know, let me just say this.
00:24:34.000...don't move, that when the air passes across them, it sends it into a movement of a vortex, kind of like water going down a drain.
00:24:42.000So that the gas is directed all towards the center of the pipe, increasing the density.
00:24:48.000And I'm still saying this, so I don't know exactly how it works, but I know that, you know, for people that are looking for energy solutions, it's definitely something to get into.
00:24:58.000I mean, it's kind of a primitive application of Schauberger's work, because really, you can run motors just with water, without using combustion at all.
00:25:08.000It sounds like some type of primitive turbo system.
00:25:13.000Well, I say primitive because all it's doing is using the air for combustion, when in fact you could use... I mean, you're imploding the air, but then it's going to be exploded afterward.
00:25:26.000Ned, I hear you and I appreciate your call.
00:25:28.000Let me just say this about alternative energies.
00:25:35.000Just because the mainstream media lies and twists and spins and does everything they do doesn't then mean that everybody else who claims they've got an energy machine or something that makes you get better gas mileage is real.
00:25:48.000Now that said, this sounds like a real device and sounds great.
00:25:51.000I just can't endorse anything that I haven't studied or looked at or talked to engineers about.
00:25:58.000Did Ford in the 60's have contests and have cars that got 85 miles to the gallon?
00:26:04.000Did Chevy in the 70's put out 90 plus miles to the gallon?
00:26:07.000Has Toyota openly by the 80's had car designs with hundreds of miles per gallon that give you even more horsepower and go hundreds of miles an hour?
00:26:16.000There's no doubt they've artificially suppressed a lot of technologies.
00:26:19.000There's no doubt that they've done this with the oil companies.
00:26:24.000There is no doubt that they have suppressed a lot of other clean burning technologies.
00:26:33.000There is no doubt that all of that is going on.
00:26:36.000My only point is, I remember scams where you invest in this company and then they later send you a free energy machine that takes energy right out of the ground.
00:26:45.000And then you never get it sent to you.
00:26:47.000So because it is something people are interested in, and something that's scientific, there's projectors, that's the old English term for con artists, who will tell you, you know, invest with me, I'm gonna dig a gold mine on your land, I know there's gold.
00:27:03.000And so, that's all I'm saying is that there's a lot of scams out there.
00:27:20.000I've been dealing with ancient Greek and Roman coins, and through that I have come to study history, and I have found that the Roman Empire fell because of the basis currency, and they were not able to support their wealth and their greed anymore.
00:27:37.000So, I feel that we're at the end of the Roman Empire War.
00:27:43.000Similar times as when Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon with the elimination of the habeas corpus.
00:27:49.000Yeah, there's no doubt we're at a major crossroads, a major flashpoint.
00:27:53.000The social engineers call that a liquification or an unfreezing of the social economic cultural strata and it's called a realignment.
00:28:04.000There's a major upheaval Implosions, explosions, politically, scientifically, spiritually happening.
00:28:12.000And so they want to make all their major changes while everything is unfrozen.
00:28:16.000We have to go in and we have to get involved like never before, as Lennon said.
00:28:21.000And because I quote Lennon doesn't mean I support him, I hate him.
00:28:24.000Somebody said because Ron Paul quoted Trotsky, he was pro-Trotsky, just so infantile intellectually.
00:28:29.000But we got folks who aren't intellectual now coming into the intellectual debate.
00:28:35.000Lenin said that there are times in history where more happens in a month than happen in a hundred years.
00:28:40.000We are now in that period, but because of technology accelerating, it's not just going to be one big renaissance, but a whole bunch of renaissance together.
00:28:47.000One acceleration into another acceleration into another acceleration On into the singularity.
00:29:10.000Hey, that's a good plug, but hey, for the plug, can I have, I mean, even like one of the $10 Greek ones or one of the old Romans, I like those, I give those as Christmas gifts.
00:29:19.000Family really gets off on it with a little card, you have little cards.
00:29:24.000Yeah, I wanted to, but when I called up your GCN network, they said that Ted Anderson was dealing with coins, but it's a really different business.
00:29:35.000Yeah, but see, you can call me, and I believe if it's ancient coins, you should be on my website.
00:29:41.000I turn down a lot of gold dealers for Ted, but I have no problem with the old coins.
00:30:33.000But those are neat gifts, ladies and gentlemen.
00:30:35.000Like giving somebody a Revolutionary War musket.
00:30:38.000Now that cost like a thousand bucks, and I haven't bought one of those yet, but I almost bought one for a friend who's done so much for me.
00:30:44.000I just don't have the time to find the right one, but that's a piece of history, man.
00:30:50.000Alright, now I'm really digressing like an idiot.
00:30:55.000Hello, best wishes to my favorite aquarist on your new diet.
00:31:00.000I have a couple of quick questions and a comment.
00:31:03.000Question number one, how do you rate the Philippines as a potential place to get away from Any potential political problems we may be undergoing.
00:31:14.000I know Art Bell ran there and was in a luxury high-rise and pulled out in less than a year.
00:31:21.000The Philippines is really sunken into problems.
00:31:24.000The Globalist Fund, fake Al-Qaeda groups, their own military's taking control of a shopping mall peacefully just to get international media attention and point out, it was like a Top Colonel did it, pointing out that the U.S.
00:31:37.000funds Al-Qaeda there, actually to bring the government down, against their Christian government.
00:31:43.000Of course, Al-Qaeda works for the New World Order, so of course that's their job in Serbia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan.
00:32:02.000Even if you've got money and are in some armored compound, they'll still try to come in on you.
00:32:07.000I know that Arthur C. Clarke, who just died a few weeks ago, lived in Sri Lanka, that's had revolution in killing, but he was in an armored compound and was pretty safe.
00:32:15.000Costa Rica is one of the best places, but it's now losing a lot of its freedom.
00:32:18.000You've got the money, the Virgin Islands, the British Virgin Islands.
00:32:21.000A lot of the big money is going to New Zealand or the Cook Islands.
00:32:29.000If someone gets reported to Child Protective Services and maybe they don't immediately get into hot water but they're, you know, not doing very well economically, they don't make a lot of money and they don't live in a great part of town, does their name stay in the system?
00:32:45.000They're always hawking around and flapping about.
00:32:47.000And it's worth it to keep your old driver's license and move to another part of the city or even a town nearby, and then keep the old license and to not put your name in any private database, anything, just to keep the blood-sucking pedophiles away from your children.
00:33:05.000I was lucky enough to find a website where a semi-retired Florida lawyer Put out a really useful course on how to actually handle a lawsuit on your own.
00:33:18.000It's called Juris, that's J as in John, U-R-I-S, JurisDictionary, JurisDictionary.com.
00:33:28.000And my second comment is that I had to endure something that a lot of your listeners will in the future years, I'm afraid.
00:33:37.000We're some greedy brothers and sisters.
00:33:41.000When the parents die, we'll call Elder Protective Services.
00:33:46.000And the social workers, a lot of people don't understand, they will work night and day to get you thrown in jail.
00:33:53.000Well that's right, you'll have one parent that's died and the parents have got 2 million bucks and the other lazy scum children routinely want to go ahead and send them to a hospice to have the water taken away from them as mama dies in 14 days of agony and these yuppies do it 24-7 and they are going to have lives of hell.
00:34:12.000They don't have to wait until they die.
00:34:14.000You do things like that, the universe is going to hurt you.
00:34:26.000Yes, I was lucky enough to get a social worker evidently fired because she left a nasty message on my answering machine because normally everything they do has no fingerprints.
00:35:04.000Yes, I had a brother blow in from out of town and he insisted that my mother have a nurse come in to be checking on her.
00:35:08.000there in the eve and boy you can burn them good a lot of them go to prison over that more and more of us are setting this up yes i had a brother blow in from out of town and he uh insisted that my mother have a nurse come in to be checking on her and the nurse would just sit around and watch tv and read the national choir and when i changed my working hours and asked the nurse not to come by for a few weeks they called see they call the elder services on you uh well Well, she got with a social worker.
00:35:36.000When the social worker left me a message on my answering machine, I called and left the social worker a message on her answering machine telling her to write me with any questions she had, and then she called elder protective services.
00:36:19.000And look, there are some good social workers in some areas, but the system itself is predatory and set up by eugenicists to take over the family, to take over the whole system, to take over the entire society.
00:36:31.000And they do this over and over and over again, expanding them out into other facets of our daily lives.
00:36:40.000Let's go ahead now and take a call from Freedom in California.
00:36:49.000Okay, you know, really to do this properly, you and I would need about an hour to debate the things that I have to debate with you, but I think that I agree with you about 95% of the things that you talk about and discuss, so I wanted to talk to you about some of the things I don't agree with you about.
00:37:07.000Well, number one, I don't believe that any planes went into the Twin Towers, and I wanted to discuss some of the points that some of the people are making about why They believe that no planes went into the Twin Towers, and I've never heard you actually address the actual claims.
00:37:23.000Okay, go ahead and make the claims, and then I'll deal with it.
00:37:28.000Okay, I've watched all of the different programs, you know, that show the different stuff.
00:37:34.000Number one, there's a video called 19 Rector Street, where there's a building that clearly exists, That was supposed to be in the video that CNN showed, and it doesn't exist in the video that CNN showed to everybody with the second plane crashing into the building.
00:37:57.000Every time you slow down and watch any of the planes going into the buildings, the explosions don't occur until after the plane is inside the building.
00:38:07.000There are some where you can actually see one Okay, email, let me just stop you.
00:38:12.000Email all that, because there might be something I haven't seen, to Aaron at InfoWars.com, and I will look at it.
00:38:18.000before the explosion happens on the face where it enters.
00:38:34.000Okay, yeah, we can move off from 9-11 and the fakery and that stuff.
00:38:42.000Let's see, you know, I've been a sovereign and I've been studying law myself and I've been studying conspiracy for 20 years, along with yourself, but I've actually delved pretty deeply into the law, been to hundreds of Patriot meetings, been to lots of sovereign meetings.
00:38:56.000Okay, I understand, you're a grand poobah, go ahead.
00:38:58.000Okay, well, you know, you have people like Larry Becraft on the program and And a lot of the meetings I go to, a lot of the people... Hey, look, man, I don't want people filing bonds on politicians because I know a bunch of people in Austin went to jail for it.
00:39:13.000I'm not going to give advice out that sends my fricking listeners to prison, man.
00:39:26.000Well, I happen to know of a situation where somebody actually got out of prison by filing a lien against Ashcroft and it got him removed from the prison because I follow up on these stories.
00:39:36.000Oh yeah, they were probably already getting out of the prison and so they think it got them out of the prison.
00:39:41.000Or let me tell you, sometimes, let me tell you something, sometimes messing with these people going after their property does freak them out and they leave you alone but not because it's legitimate but because it's it's it's it's basically like stalking and they stalk us with illegitimate stuff too and so and and and so just because it works uh... doesn't mean that it won't send nine out of ten to prison.
00:40:47.000A. If we attack the official 9-11 story by saying there's no planes hitting the towers, Tower 1 or 2, we give Fox News and the Globalist the perfect tool to discredit us.
00:41:03.000B, I don't believe that planes did not hit it.
00:41:07.000And every time I bring up, hey, my good family friend, Jimmy Wright, who lives in Fredericksburg, part of the year in the World Financial Center, he was drinking coffee and saw the first plane, heard a noise, he's right across the street, looked up and saw a plane crash in.
00:41:23.000I mean, I remember like four years ago being in New York and trying to talk to no-plainers and they would start screaming and spitting and, liar!
00:42:16.000The plane flies in at 580-something miles an hour.
00:42:20.000Within a millisecond, it's already traveled 100-something feet, the length of the plane, into the building.
00:42:26.000When you're going close to 600 miles an hour, and the plane's 100 feet long or whatever, I mean, do you understand how fast, at 600 miles an hour, one plane was going supposedly 590, the other 560-something, so I averaged it to 580.
00:42:41.000And it hits, and then it tears at the superstructure and pieces fly out the other end, and it aerosolizes the vast majority of the jet fuel, and so it catches the air, which the coal-burning kerosene needs, and boom, just like you take a spray, hairspray bottle, or spray paint bottle when you're a kid, and take the lighter when your parents are gone, you're, you know, in the backyard, hope they don't pull up, and you're with your friends melting army men.
00:43:26.000That's why you can take the same video from some TVs or how they were recorded or originally from the news networks and it doesn't have that but you take some cruddy VHS that messes with the frame rate and you do that and sure it looks like it looks like the wing goes in and then disappears and there's no cut but if you really blow it up and look there's the cut.
00:43:45.000There's the cut in the aluminum and metal siding and that plane just shreds into a million pieces.
00:43:53.000And then who comes out and says the no plane?
00:44:14.000What about the FBI being told to stand down?
00:44:16.000What about their houses, cars, credit cards, informants living with them?
00:44:21.000What about Al Qaeda being CIA-created?
00:44:23.000I mean, you bring up those arguments with, like, I've been around executives, I've been around high-powered government people, they freak out and go, yeah, you're right.
00:44:29.000Man, that convinces people like Jesse Ventura, it convinces them all.
00:44:34.000But you start talking about no planes hitting it, ladies and gentlemen, or pods and flashes and all this other stuff.
00:44:51.000They have planes lifting off and landing in weird groups.
00:44:54.000And Operation Northwoods talks about CIA folks getting on a plane, having to go one place, another plane painted up with the same tail number being blown up off the coast of Florida, and then finding the wreckage in the tail numbers.
00:45:08.000The black op, we're not sure how they did it.
00:45:12.000And so you were reasonable and sounded like a normal person, so I answered your question.
00:45:16.000The normal no-planers are just completely nuts.
00:45:21.000I mean they are completely out of their minds and vicious and aggressive and lying and slanderous and uh... and then they've always got former admitted spooks and former admitted people from CIA universities running around spewing and I've been at hotels around these people and had them walk up and go, yeah you and all you people are going to sue and we take over.
00:45:43.000And of course I can't go on air and say who said that to me because no one would believe it and then the person could sue me.
00:45:50.000Just like I've had anarchists walk up to me before, and I'll go, you work for those cops on the top of the building?
00:45:54.000And they go, yeah, we do, and we're gonna kill you, you son of a bitch, soon.
00:45:57.000And I'm like, get the camera over here, Mike!
00:46:00.000You know, and Mike's over there interviewing, you know, cops trying to start a fight dressed up like anarchists, and we got that on video, and aired it on AXS, and I'm so busy I can't find the original tape, it's pure gold.
00:46:08.000It's even worse than what you saw in Ottawa, where they were staging them before it came out on national news it was staged, now admitted.
00:46:16.000I mean, you know, I've been there with them on the street when they walk up and they go, Legang, Togo, you know, just all sorts of things.
00:46:22.000I remember three years ago, one of them, I went to dinner with one of them and I knew they were a little, they use unstable, provocateur, informant types who they've got a lot of dirt on, who are perfect to go out, just like the guys they have that quote are official ground zero tour guides.
00:46:42.000And man, you'll be in person with them when the camera moves off and they'll just point blank going, how long do you think you'll get away with this, Jones?
00:46:48.000You know we're going to deal with you.
00:46:51.000And it's just point blank, you're dealing with a hardcore special ops killer.
00:47:05.000It's just like the fella called in the other day, he was at a CFR book signing with a CFR, one of the head guys, and he walks over and says, you know, the New World Order is falling apart, but Zygmunt Brzezinski said 30 years behind, and the guy puts the pen down and says, we will recover.
00:47:19.000I mean, I've been at the Capitol before and had the Speaker of the House years ago waddle over and go, Alex, you're a smart guy.
00:47:25.000The people don't want your help, they want to be dumb.
00:47:28.000You know, the way you change the process is compromising and joining us.
00:47:45.000And I had one of the most high-powered Democratic Party members in Austin call me when I played an access show with Clips Off C-SPAN of him meeting with Communist Chinese in the White House, and it was him with Clinton in the meetings, and he called up and he was, he was, Alex, you know what, Bill Clinton's a great person, and I don't appreciate you talking bad about him and what you did with me.
00:48:24.000Like a lot of the people that say Israel runs it all crowd.
00:48:27.000They're meant to act wacky and crazy and mix crazy stuff in with it.
00:48:34.000And notice, they'll operate for about a year or two, get your confidence, and then they'll start talking about UFOs, moon landings, Neanderthal, you know, just craziness, and by then you're already emotionally committed to it, and so you can't pull out of the craziness.
00:48:56.000See, they don't want you to legitimately come to the table and legitimately have an effect.
00:49:03.000They don't want you to legitimately expose what they're doing.
00:49:10.000It's really just that simple, my friends.
00:50:10.000That same guy comes down to ground zero a few weeks ago while we are a changer down there with a sign saying, 9-11 truth, we are change, carried out the bombing of the Armed Forces Recruiting carried out the bombing of the Armed Forces Recruiting Center in Times Square.
00:51:37.000Hair sticking up in all directions, disheveled, mustard stains on the front of his shirt.
00:51:44.000And I always thought he was just mentally ill until I saw that he was being handled by BBC and all these other people, and little winks and nods and friendlinesses with the people down there affiliated with Screw Loose Change and the rest of it, who were down there advising the crowds and creeping around.
00:52:04.000I mean, they're running an operation, and I got news for them.
00:52:15.000Everybody knows your COINTELPRO, they know your disinfo now, they're talking about the real issues.
00:52:21.000One of the embassy heads, Springman, who I first interviewed six plus years ago, almost seven years ago, within two months of 9-11, he's now out there talking about how the hijackers were U.S.
00:52:29.000government agents and he was ordered to let them back into the country.
00:53:20.000I was going to play an exclusive video, not yet seen by folks here, for 15 minutes, but maybe I should just take calls.
00:53:27.000Because once I'm on with the British, I don't know if I'll be able to go to Eddie and Roger and John and Justin and Troy and Jay and Anthony and Jeremy and everybody else that's on.
00:55:19.000I mean, I talk about how the Jerusalem Post and Harots admit that Otago admits that they got a call and told all their employees not to go to work that day, four hours before the attacks, and they warned 4,000 of them, and that's where the rumors started there were no Jews.
00:55:31.000No, there were some Jews in there, but I got it out of Harots and all that, and I popularized it.
00:55:37.000I went on air day one and said, look, Otago, and then later I was accused of covering it up.
00:55:45.000The point is though, why would Odigo call the newspaper and say we were warned not to go into work if they were part of it?
00:55:52.000I'm not saying Israel somehow wasn't involved in the attacks or elements of Shem Bet or Mossad.
00:55:57.000The point I'm making is that Odigo certainly wasn't, and the Jerusalem Post and Haraz published it, and their publications are under military denotices.
00:56:07.000The military can control what they publish and what they don't, so why does Israel admit that they warned people to get out of the buildings, and why then is it admitted that on top of all of that, That they've created fake Al-Qaeda groups and staged bombings as a pretext to kill the priests process.
00:56:29.000Now is that saying there aren't real people that do bomb and kill people in Israel and I'm against that?
00:56:34.000Certainly there's real stuff going on.
00:57:06.000I have it in Hebrew for you if you'd like it.
00:57:09.000But on Prison Planet, I mean on InfoWars, but comment number 21 on the story, where he posted part of the story, Infowars.com, there is comment number 21.
00:57:37.000Aaron says, I don't agree with Zionism and the occupation of Palestine land, but articles like this allow the MSN to portray the Truth Movement as a bunch of anti-Semitic white supremacists.
00:57:46.000I don't want to be classified as a white supremacist like Randy Weaver and have my property sieged by federal agents on trumped-up charges for going to an anti-war protest for 9-11 Truth Rally.
00:57:56.000That's all those people's jobs are, to be informants and radicalize fringe groups.
00:58:22.000And you read here, the quotes at the big national meeting, and it's Head of the Merskav Harav Yeshiva chose to explain the attack by saying the Torah and the Land of Israel are acquired only through agony.
00:58:49.000called on the government to decree for every life lost in the attack against Yeshiva, the township will be formed.
00:58:55.000Even when we seek revenge, it is important to make one thing clear.
00:58:59.000The life of one Yeshiva boy is worth more than the lives of a thousand Arabs.
00:59:03.000The Talmud states that if the Gentiles rob Israel of silver, they will pay it back in gold.
00:59:07.000And all that is taken will be paid back in folds.
00:59:11.000But in cases like these, there is nothing to be paid back, since, as I said, the life of one yeshiva boy is worth more than a thousand lives of Arabs, added the rabbi.
00:59:20.000He's the former head rabbi, and that's number two.
00:59:30.000Now, the paper goes on to say, uh... Rahmat, Gann's chief rabbi, Ya'kova Ariel chose to deliver a more moderate message, so they slightly criticize it.
00:59:41.000We do not seek vengeance, we seek retaliation.
00:59:43.000The terrorist house should have been demolished immediately, regardless of the law, and it goes on from there.
00:59:50.000So, you have the Texas Civil Rights Review saying that When I did a story about people at a Larry Conquista rally, thousands at the Capitol, wearing green shirts, a bunch of them wearing green shirts at a rally of thousands, saying, plan of San Diego, I found out that that meant killing all whites, 16 and older.
01:00:13.000And then the Texas Civil Rights Review, in a publication, said, well, they do want to kill all whites, but they're downtrodden, and you have to understand they're an oppressed people, and I was bad for saying that.
01:00:25.000So, see, This has to be talked about, but you know, I'll probably be attacked by the ADL now, and I'm just trying to be inclusive.
01:00:33.000And again, most Jews aren't involved in this, don't believe in this.
01:00:37.000I had to talk about Hagee when he said that Christians really are second-rate to Jews, and Jews are better than anybody else.
01:00:43.000I've seen him say Jesus isn't the Messiah, and I had to talk about that.
01:00:46.000I got that going real big, and got a bunch of threats over that, and attacks.
01:00:50.000I mean, you know, I got a big show, folks.
01:00:52.000I'm not somebody with a little website here.
01:00:56.000You know, I get off a plane in Europe, I'll be arrested just for saying it's wrong to say, you know, that one Palestinian is worth as much as a Jew.
01:01:07.000We're going to play you the Ed Koch interview.
01:01:12.000And then, where we demolish everything he says in about 15 minutes, I'm scheduled to be on British radio, and I'll tell the British radio, hey, I want to take calls, and I'll just on air take calls from my end, whether they like it or not.
01:01:31.000Well, he is a veteran of the European Theater in World War II. he is a veteran of the European Theater in World He's a member of Congress, and he joins us for the balance of the broadcast today for the next 25 minutes or so.
01:01:56.000He's a former New York mayor, Ed Cott.
01:02:01.000And he's here with us today to talk about his newest book, The Koch Papers, in a book he wrote years ago, I think in 99, about the nasty little Rudolph Giuliani.
01:02:11.000So we'll get some of his comments on that as well.
01:02:14.000Mayor Koch, tell us about the new book.
01:02:17.000Well, I wrote a book, which I'm very proud of.
01:02:20.000It's my latest and my best, and it's called The Koch Papers, and it is a compilation of the statements that I've made and the commentaries I've issued, speeches, and really first rate, beginning with my days in Congress up until recently on the issue of anti-Semitism.
01:02:51.000The pastor of Obama is an anti-Semite.
01:02:55.000But the fact is that anti-Semitism is vastly decreased, but rising in Europe to the point where it's close to where it was in the 30s, just before World War II.
01:03:10.000Well, that's an amazing statement right there.
01:03:14.000Mayor Koch, I've seen the quotes about the government vetting AIDS or the government shipping in drugs for the black people, but I haven't heard him make any anti-Semitic comments.
01:03:24.000Can you tell me specifically what Barack Obama's...?
01:03:27.000Yes, he has... You know, when you attack Israel, you have a right to attack Israel, but if you attack it by... when you would not attack another country, For doing the same thing, then it's anti-semitism, in my judgment.
01:03:50.000He and others attack Israel because it engages in self-defense against Palestinian terrorism, and he says that the Israelis treat the Palestinians worse Then the Nazis treated the Jews as ridiculous.
01:04:13.000And secondly, what the Israelis are doing is, for example, what the Turks are doing today.
01:04:18.000They go into Iraq to go after the terrorists that enter Turkey to kill Turks.
01:04:29.000And I haven't seen anybody criticize Uh, the Turks for doing that.
01:05:05.000You can be critical of Israel if you criticize it for the same reason that you criticize other countries.
01:05:14.000Jimmy Carter criticizes a lot of countries.
01:05:17.000But I haven't heard, in this case, Reverend Wright or anybody else, criticize Turkey for doing what Israel does, which is defend its people from terrorist attacks.
01:05:31.000The difference is the Kurds didn't have that area of Turkey, and Israel has been expanding and pushing the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas and demolishing the houses.
01:05:46.000Firstly, Israel has agreed to the two-state solution called the Roadmap, which President Bush and others have urged.
01:05:57.000The Palestinians under Hamas in the West Bank says, no, every Jew who entered historic Palestine after 1917 must be expelled and there will be one Muslim state.
01:06:14.000I think that's a threat to Jews who are now about six million.
01:06:55.000You may not accept it as such, I don't know, maybe you do, but Jews have lived in the area which was known originally as Judea and Samaria until the Romans I totally agree with you that Sephardic Jews, that are 20% of the Jewish family, certainly have been there for 3,000 years.
01:07:24.000So, you may not accept it as such, but in the Bible, it says that God made a pact with the Jews that the area Uh, which was known as Judea.
01:07:39.000Well, actually, God ordered the Jews to go in and kill everybody, including their animals.
01:08:14.000What I don't like is the fact that in Europe, the different governmental organizations, the different lobbying groups, have tried to push to even, you know, ban people's political free speech.
01:08:28.000Even if I don't agree with what someone is saying about Hitler, I think they have a right.
01:08:50.000Each country has its own laws, and in Europe, because of Adolf Hitler, in Germany and France, And in England, they have said that you may not, under penalty of criminal law, say that there was not a...
01:10:51.000The fact is that the governments of the countries that I've told you about have decided that it is in their interest Not to allow the resurgence of Neo-Nazism.
01:11:06.000I understand that, but now they've expanded it, Mayor.
01:11:09.000Now they've expanded it to don't criticize the EU.
01:11:12.000Don't criticize immigrants flooding in.
01:12:02.000I wanted to draw a distinction for you as to why the Holocaust is different In a lot of respects than the killing of any other group, even as terrible as it was.
01:12:17.000And I will tell you what the difference is.
01:12:18.000Hitler issued an order called the Final Solution, which said that every Jew in the countries in which Nazism prevailed would be killed Baby, infant, child, man, woman.
01:12:35.000No child could be adopted to save the child's life.
01:13:00.000Mayor Koch, and I'm not arguing with you, all I'm trying to say is that you're not aware of all the new hate speech laws, even in England, that has no connection?
01:13:14.000Listen, you're not in England, you're in the United States.
01:13:18.000The English have a tradition of being very free with speech, but they have decided That they have to put limitations on it.
01:13:47.000You can't say you support free speech in the U.S.
01:13:49.000and then go to Europe and be the head of the U.S.
01:13:53.000delegation to go over there with that whole agenda off of the people that got killed taking people's free speech today using the dumb Nazis as your poster boy to take other people's free speech!
01:14:04.000Now listen, nobody from here is taking anybody's free speech.
01:14:09.000Each government In Germany, they decided that if you did not clamp down on Neo-Nazism and do that by saying that if you revere Hitler, if you engage in a fascist Nazi salute, you're breaking the German law.
01:14:36.000Well, I know this, BBC and Der Spiegel reported that the Germans, government since the 60s, has been caught heading up the neo-Nazi groups that they allow to operate.
01:14:46.000They were caught provocateuring firebombing attacks against Turks as a pretext to pass such laws.
01:15:01.000We're going to take your statements saying that they didn't arrest Robin Page for... No, no, I don't even know who... And we're going to put the articles up where it says that.
01:15:11.000I don't even know who... I don't even... Please, give me a chance.
01:16:13.000Mayor Koch, I'm going to answer your question.
01:16:17.000I do not believe that the Jews carried out the attack on the World Trade Centers.
01:16:24.000And I also know that the Pensacola News Journal, the Associated Press, the San Jose Mercury News, and Newsweek all reported that the hijackers were trained at U.S.
01:17:02.000I believe you can say whatever you want to!
01:17:04.000Hey, Mayor Koch, I actually think you're a funny, smart character, and I want to come back and talk about Giuliani, because I don't like him either, and I want to end this on a friendly note, but I'll just say this as we go to break, okay?
01:17:17.000If you look at 9-11 and you look at how they masked more than 70,000 U.S.
01:17:21.000and British troops, Around Afghanistan, it had the aircraft carriers and Bush signed the order to attack Afghanistan the day before 9-11.
01:17:31.000And if you look at how Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane but fell, and you look at NORAD standing down, and you look at Bush running the 9-11 Whitewash Commission, that's why there's questions.
01:17:40.000So to say that because a minority says Jews did it, the majority of 9-11 truth doesn't say that.
01:17:45.000So I'm going to get your take on that.
01:18:10.000Just type Ed Koch into Google, you can find it all.
01:18:15.000Look, I was talking to you in the break, Mayor, and I actually believe there's a global eugenics program, Planned Parenthood, set up by the Rockefellers who funded Hitler.
01:18:25.000I know you got questioned by We Are Change a week or so ago and they brought up Prescott Bush was in the New York Times back in the 40s being the head Nazi agent in the U.S.
01:18:36.000I find it hard to believe that you've lived in New York and New Jersey most of your life and that you didn't know what's common knowledge and been headlines in the BBC.
01:18:47.000Okay, ladies and gentlemen, live internet stream.
01:18:49.000I'm going to be interviewed by a national radio show in the UK.
01:18:54.000Communication broke down and they didn't know I was going to be doing just this internet simulcast today, but I'm going to be interviewed.
01:18:59.000They are now in control of the transmission for the next 30 minutes or so, and so I'm going to turn things over to the folks in England, and the radio program is the night before, and we are honored to be here.
01:19:37.000I mean, sure, this has been done for a long time, but this is just more so people get an idea of the stuff I'm doing and who we're talking to.
01:19:51.000Okay, well what we wanted to do is we were intending to do an interview with you where we sort of get inside the head of Alex Jones because a lot of our audience won't know who you are and so I wanted to talk through your different sort of stages of development and how I came into contact with you as a consequence.
01:20:13.000I know you're pre-recording this for a few hours to air across England and London, and so just for the listeners, it's not live yet, but plug for my listeners, before you start, where this is going to be on, how they listen on the web, or for our listeners in England, where they tune in.
01:20:28.000Okay, well we're across the UK on digital DAB and we're on FM across the West Midlands and the name of the station is Kerrang Radio and if this is really good and we enjoy it, maybe this will get turned into a podcast as well.
01:20:43.000It'll be broadcast on Tuesday and it'll be broadcast at 12 o'clock at night across the UK.
01:20:48.000Okay, and that's this Tuesday or next Tuesday?
01:20:52.000Yeah, this Tuesday coming because we're in Tuesday now here in the UK.
01:21:13.000I was thinking about you earlier on, Alex Jones, and I think probably The first way that I came into contact with you didn't even involve you.
01:21:20.000I was reading a book called 1984 and I closed the book and I'd finished reading it and I remember thinking, actually the world can never ever be the same now.
01:21:28.000Now I've read that book forever my mind's Damaged or whatever, or changed.
01:21:33.000And obviously, is that a book you yourself read?
01:21:35.000I mean, you're not that much older than me, you're around the same age.
01:21:38.000It was an extremely powerful book, and because I had already been somewhat of a history buff, not because I was a bookworm, but because growing up, my mom has a degree in history, my dad's a voracious reader and a physician, and so I learned that history books were more action-packed than Fiction.
01:21:59.000And so I began to really read a lot of history.
01:22:01.000I knew about Stalin, Hitler, Caesar, Caligula, the Aztecs.
01:22:08.000I knew about the Communist Chinese killing 60 million.
01:22:11.000I understood, and I also had already read, I guess I was kind of lucky, when I first read in like, I think it was the eighth grade, 1984, I had already knew about Eric Blair, because my parents were fans of the man, you know, the pen name,
01:22:25.000George Orwell, and I knew that he had been in the Imperial Police in India, and I'd already read To Kill an Elephant, and I'd already read about Down and Out in Paris, or parts of it, and some essays that boiled it down, and I knew that he worked as a propagandist at BBC, so I knew this was him taking reality and kind of conceptualizing it As what he saw as fascism and communism really at the end of the day being the same thing.
01:22:49.000These cults of power and how he saw the West in the future sliding into that by 1984.
01:22:56.000I'll be honest with you, I partly wish I'd never read that book, but it's one of those things that permeates everything about you.
01:23:01.000I think that's my first experience of you.
01:23:02.000Now, my second experience of you is that I was trying, I've been trying to research exactly what TV program it was.
01:23:09.000It was something like Louis Theroux, but it wasn't actually Louis Theroux.
01:23:12.000And you were on telly, and you came across to me at the time as a crazed nutter, and you were banging on about how we're all going to be microchipped, and everything's terrifying, and all this kind of stuff.
01:23:22.000And I remember thinking, man, this guy's out of control.
01:23:25.000Now this is maybe 97 or 98, this is quite early on.
01:23:30.000Maybe you were, I think you'd been involved in the Waco stuff and you were this kind of religious right-wing nutter as you came across.
01:23:37.000No, no, no, I mean there's a misconception because Wikipedia says it and won't change it.
01:23:42.000I had exposed That, along with many others, and there was a film that got Academy Award nomination, Waco Rules of Engagement, that came out in 1995, where it showed the Delta Force machine gunning and killing the Branch Davidians, and I'd read the federal documents and knew it was admitted by the Army, but then the national news would say people didn't know what really happened.
01:24:03.000And so I went and got to know the surviving Davidians, and they weren't what we'd heard, they were certainly weird, And so then, one of my friends who was a builder said, oh, they want a memorial chapel for like the 20 survivors to have memorials.
01:24:16.000And then I put it out on radio, let's build a shack, and all these engineers showed up, took control of it, and built a memorial church, and then it was spun in the media that I was the new Koresh, you know, basically running all of this, which is just absolute pure crap.
01:24:29.000You can read USA Today, the rest of it.
01:24:31.000We built a memorial church for all those that died, including the BATF.
01:24:36.000Yeah, it's an interesting thing because Waco, I mean I was talking to a guy called Kevin Booth, who I think you know as well, who was involved in kind of filming Waco and filming the stuff that happened there.
01:24:49.000He went with Bill Hicks when Bill was staying with him in Austin, shortly before he died, I think he died the same year, and he went out there and his pancreatic cancer moved so quickly that he didn't even know he had cancer then, and then a few months later he knew he had it, and a few months later he was dead.
01:25:06.000But they actually got on a dirt road and went back and got closer video than anybody got once it had been cordoned off just a few days before the Delta Force went in and slaughtered those people.
01:25:17.000I think Waco had a radicalizing effect on kind of the right-wing conspiracy theory movement sort of deep in the heart of Texas.
01:25:26.000Well, it is true that I was more right-wing, and I hadn't broken out of the left-right paradigm at that time.
01:25:45.000Then the third experience that I would have had with you would be, I think, possibly in the film, Richard Laker film, and I think it's called Waking Life.
01:25:57.000And you were ranting in that, and it was an entertaining, it was an amusing rant, and you were, you know, you were a film star.
01:26:04.000I remember recognizing you at the time, and you were gathering a level of celebrity and fame.
01:26:08.000What were you going through at that time?
01:26:11.000Well, I've never tried to be in movies, and I've actually been invited to come out to Hollywood and have some medium-sized parts just out of the gates.
01:26:19.000They want me to play villains, bad guys, corrupt cops.
01:26:22.000They say that's kind of how I come across as a tough guy, which I never really thought of myself as that.
01:26:33.000Police State 2000 in 1999 and Rick had heard people say it wasn't real because it showed videos of Marines training with foreign troops to confiscate our guns and put us in FEMA camps.
01:26:46.000I'd just gone to an urban warfare drill and they were training to do this and admitting it and people thought that I'd hired aircraft carriers and hovercrafts and tanks and wheeled vehicles and Cobra gunships.
01:27:15.000It's about dreaming and about, you know, people that live these lives separately dreaming and how that then interfaces with reality.
01:27:22.000And he said, but the main reason I called you is it's just so funny that people think you could hire aircraft carriers and troops and tanks.
01:27:32.000And, of course, I had made it myself, edited it, shot it, put it together.
01:27:36.000It really wasn't that good, in my view.
01:27:37.000Edited it on a three-quarter inch deck, shot it on VHS with like a $100 camera.
01:27:41.000And that was because I started out as an AXS TV host in 1995, got in a radio show in 96.
01:27:48.000And so people would say, there's no UNC.
01:27:50.000signs at the parks, and I would go get video of it, and then, you know, made my first film.
01:27:56.000And so I just fell into filmmaking, and that's how Hollywood got to know me, and so I had a little cameo that they say is the most popular, and then years later, I think in like 2001, That was in 99, and then the film came out in 2000.
01:28:09.000I got invited to Rick Linklater's ranch, and he's at this huge house.
01:28:12.000He built himself this huge giant room on top, you know, on the second floor, and there's this huge poster of me.
01:28:18.000Since this interview is about me, it's weird to talk about myself, but I'm happy to do it.
01:28:21.000This huge blow-up of me in waking life in his house.
01:28:26.000And, you know, right next to a famous poster from Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory, you know, right next to it, it covered another wall, the one with Kurt Russell.
01:28:37.000And so, wow, you're really a fan, Rick.
01:29:13.000They keep wanting me to come kind of get involved in all this stuff, and now I'm not going to turn it down anymore because But anyways, I mean, that's a side issue, because it's too much of an opportunity to get the word out.
01:29:21.000I'd rather just do radio and make my own films and write articles, and I'm not even that allured by Hollywood, though most people would kill themselves to be part of it.
01:29:29.000And he comes on the show about his film, and he just says, oh yeah, 9-11's an inside job, I've been handing your films out for years, I gave Bruce Willis your film Martial Law, and I gave him Terror Storm, and he said he's not going to be a neocon follower or a war supporter anymore, he now understands the paradigm and knows it's an inside job.
01:29:46.000and uh... that blew everybody away and then six months later Vanity Fair came out when his latest Die Hard came out about a year ago and said Bruce Willis now thinks the government killed Kennedy and it had the quotes of him saying the people that killed Kennedy run our country now and are basically behind 9-11 so there was the confirmation of that and then to have Willie Nelson call me up and and and say that I woke him up ten years ago and now he's ready to say it's an inside job to meet a year and a half ago
01:30:13.000Governor Jesse Ventura, and to give me some of my films, and he said, well, I know the government staged Gulf of Tonkin to get us into NAMM, I know the government staged other stuff, I know about Northwoods, but I just can't believe they'd do it, but I do question.
01:30:25.000Then he's on the show last week with me, and he just goes, "I'm ready to go public when we come back out of break." And he comes out and says the government basically did it and made it all over AP, TV, hundreds of newspapers.
01:30:36.000And it's like I've got rock bands calling me up, big ones, most of them don't want to come on air.
01:30:41.000I mean, of the top five Hollywood stars, four of them have called me, but they don't want to come on air.
01:31:31.000Then everything I talked about came true.
01:31:33.000Well, it's not strictly true, but... Oh, really?
01:31:36.000Well, a lot of it, but listen, let me come on to that next bit.
01:31:39.000So there's the celebrity aspect, and you are, to a certain extent, definitely a cult celebrity, and that's something I've never heard you speak about before, really.
01:31:49.000I'm now the king of conspiracy, the icon.
01:31:53.000But I don't... I eschew that label because it's not a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy fact.
01:32:00.000And you say a lot of what I've said hasn't happened or isn't going on.
01:32:02.000Maybe you're just not aware it's going on.
01:32:04.000Well, yeah, hang on, let me come on to it.
01:32:06.000I mean, I want to do this, you know, in time and, you know, we're going to edit this, we're going to turn it into a special.
01:32:12.000But anyway, yeah, what happened was, you kind of, so you're on the fringes as a not-job celebrity would be the way that it would have worked.
01:32:20.000And then 9-11 happened, and when that happened, I remember being in a radio studio and knowing I didn't know what was happening.
01:32:41.000And I remember thinking at the time, you and another guy, David Icke, who I'd read of and was aware of and found amusing.
01:32:49.000I remember thinking of him and you at the time and then seeing you ranting about it and seeming a little bit more eloquent and making a little bit more sense.
01:33:01.000Because initially, like you say, you were a kind of a fringe nutjob, then something like that happened, and now you're becoming, certainly making a lot more sense to people.
01:33:09.000Well, let's be clear, when I was 21 years old, I was on the air.
01:33:13.000And I did it out of passion and belief, and I would see incredible things in legislation, incredible things in the back of the newspaper, or in industry publications, and I would then cover it.
01:33:25.000And I started studying even more history, and I learned that it was declassified, that the U.S.
01:33:30.000government had staged hundreds of terror attacks all over the world, had staged attacks to blame it on Mohammed Mosaddegh, to blame it on his government to overthrow Iran, in 1953 with the British government, the Gulf of Tonkin had been staged, And then I saw the news prepping everybody, saying there's going to be terror.
01:33:49.000When the terror comes, give up all your rights.
01:33:55.000And I saw them showing bin Laden on the news.
01:33:57.000And I knew that the FBI had cooked the bomb, trained the driver, been intimately involved, basically provocateuring the first World Trade Center attack.
01:34:04.000But in 93, they did find real Muslims to do it, though.
01:34:09.000Two of them were registered with New York as mentally retarded on welfare.
01:34:13.000And so it was a provocateur action where they set somebody up and so I went on air before the attacks and I said the government's going to stage an attack probably on the World Trade Center.
01:34:22.000It'll be blamed on their CIA asset Osama Bin Laden.
01:34:26.000Jimmy Vaughn is a well-known blues singer, double trouble, fabulous Thunderbirds.
01:34:31.000He got his brother Stevie Ray Vaughn into music, lives here in Austin, a good friend of mine.
01:34:35.000He remembers seeing me two months before 9-11 on TV for two hours straight saying, call the White House, they're going to probably attack the World Trade Center using Bin Laden.
01:34:42.000I was saying, look at how they're getting you ready in the media, look how they're prepping you.
01:34:45.000I mean, I saw them introducing the story.
01:34:48.000And then he'll never forget seeing, and then two months later it happened and he was a big Bush supporter and everything and that totally changed Jimmy Vaughn and it totally changed a lot of other people that saw that.
01:34:57.000I did that on the radio show for months as well up until the day
01:35:02.000of the attacks and then the day of the attacks within about twenty four minutes they were on every major TV network saying Bin Laden did it the world's gonna change it's a new world order we've got to attack these countries then I pointed out it was in Newsweek that Bush had had forty four thousand US troops eighteen thousand British troops two aircraft carriers you know massed in the different countries around Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, two aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf ready to attack and he launched the order to attack
01:35:30.000Uh... Afghanistan in one week, the day before 9-11.
01:35:37.000But he had everything masked there in the months before.
01:35:40.000You don't just mask 44,000 US troops, 18,000 British troops, you see, and then it just goes out from there.
01:35:46.000Well, the thing with it is, Alex, is that I often wonder how far, you know, the rabbit hole goes, because, uh, you know, the September the 11th stuff happened, and people like you had been talking about it.
01:35:59.000And then it happened and all of the things that you said, I mean listen, I remember 7-7 here in the UK, the day that happened I was taking calls and I was taking calls left, right and centre from people banging on about how we need ID cards now.
01:36:11.000Despite the fact that they even acknowledged themselves, the callers themselves were saying, I don't see why ID cards would help but probably it would be a good thing.
01:36:18.000Well a government study, a government study in England, several have said it will make it worse.
01:36:25.000How far does the rabbit hole go with these things?
01:36:28.000September the 11th, I think, for me, personally, I'd put a question mark above it and I'd say, I don't know what happened there.
01:36:35.000But then, with microchips for example, I remember you talking about microchips, thinking this guy's crazy, and then in this very studio, I've had people who have had microchips stuck in their arm for a bit of fun, and they're just hanging out, and you know, you can get it done down the road from where this studio is, and they're just normal people, they're not far out nutjobs.
01:36:54.000Well listen, how did I know in 96, in 2000, That I've said it will be in bars, it will be to get into topless bars, it will be to get into luxury cruise ships, it will be to get into security areas and work for the government, it will be given to Alzheimer's patients.
01:37:08.000And then everybody goes, Alex Jones is Nostradamus, you know, he knows everything.
01:37:14.000The Pentagon in 96 and in 2000, and the Federation of American Scientists put it out both times, said you will have universal adaptations of brain chips in a hive mind with the government controlling everyone and controlling the pleasure centers to where people are literally like the Matrix
01:37:31.000That's where they got that, was from government documents, where we'll all basically live in pods and have instant pleasure centers, always taken care of, and that they would start with selling it as implantable chips for security, getting into luxury bars as a status symbol.
01:37:46.000Now, that is in, and by the way, that's in my book, Descent into Tyranny.
01:37:49.000I took the Army documents and put it in there.
01:37:51.000I mean, the British Ministry of Defense prospectus on the next ten years, what the military futurists say they believe will happen is flash mobs, martial law, the London Guardian published some of it, you can read the whole 125 page report if you want, 120 something.
01:38:05.000And it says they're going to take all our rights, that the elite are going to wage war against the people, that governments may use neutron bombs to reduce population, bioweapons on us.
01:38:15.000Dick Cheney wrote in the PNAC document, September 20, 2000, published by the Project for the American Century, that they want to legitimize in the media the use of race-specific bioweapons to kill certain races.
01:39:01.000And then, next thing you know, it starts getting real, and this is what I'm saying to you, you know, how far does the rabbit hole go?
01:39:07.000I mean, one of the things, I know, last time I interviewed you, I felt like I was kind of in a fight with you.
01:39:12.000You almost throttled me live on air, which was fine, but...
01:39:16.000But one of the things about it is you said to me very strongly then, you always get cluttered in with the UFO crowd and the nut jobs and stuff like that.
01:39:25.000So I'm going to test you with a few different conspiracy theories and you can tell me if there's any truth in them that you know of or not.
01:39:31.000Okay, well let me just first preface it with this because this is absolutely key and this is one of the best interviews ever.
01:39:35.000I love the questions you're asking me, sir.
01:39:55.000But I always, the key is, I always stick to what I can prove and what happens in all of this is you learn you're being lied to about so many things.
01:40:02.000You learn the world is so much stranger than you originally thought that you then tend to just believe anything that's alternative and then you immediately, you know, it's like a competition of who can get into the most, you know, extreme things.
01:40:16.000You know, this is all a false reality or the dream of some great, you know, God or, you know, we're all Aliens ourselves, or you know, Cuckoo from Cocoa Puffs is our leader, or Church of the Subgenius.
01:40:46.00080 plus percent of Brits believe she was killed and all the evidence shows that she was killed and she said months before that she named who she believed was going to kill her and that they threatened it would be a fake auto accident.
01:40:58.000So yes, I believe Diana was assassinated.
01:41:08.000There are unidentified flying objects, but most of those are government craft.
01:41:12.000Do I believe that there are other life forms in the universe?
01:41:15.000We would be incredibly arrogant to think that there wasn't, but I think most of it's hype.
01:41:20.000I mean, there is no yes or no on that, because I could say yes, that there are unidentified flying objects, but are little green men piloting them?
01:41:39.000Now, because I've interviewed a lot of Nobel Prize winners and top geneticists, they're saying that now the more they look at it, the more human DNA compared to other animals, other mammals, looks like it's been manipulated.
01:41:49.000So there's... I mean, again, that's not my area because I can't prove it, but it is interesting.
01:41:58.000How about the idea that the Earth itself is hollow and you can go inside there and it's got a whole ecosystem and everything within?
01:42:05.000No, I don't believe in hollow earth theories, to the extent of the classic one of there's a sun in the middle of the earth, and there's dinosaurs and pterodactyls flying around, smoking cigarettes, and there's cavemen down there, and beautiful maidens in bubble baths.
01:42:21.000But I do know that there are a lot of subterranean, giant areas that are worlds in and of themselves.
01:42:28.000I mean, almost the entirety of Texas has a huge aquifer under it.
01:42:33.000And they, you know, they've gone into caves that are a hundred miles long and they never find the ends of.
01:42:37.000So, I know where those legends come from.
01:42:40.000So, in a technical way, there is a hollow earth, but not in the kook way of it completely being hollow.
01:42:46.000America is soon to be plunged into civil war from which a fascist state will rise.
01:42:53.000I believe we're defeating them and I think it'll be a slow slide into third world-dom and kind of a collapse like the Soviet Union, which is better than the fascist winning.
01:43:02.000What about the idea of shape-shifting lizards controlling the world?
01:43:08.000No, I don't have any evidence to that.
01:43:36.000It's not my job to do everything perfectly or have all the answers.
01:43:39.000I've got a duty to tell the truth, to expose the corruption, to try to defend the innocent.
01:43:44.000Just because you have a huge genre of mainstream media lying, telling the truth, spinning, agents of influence, all of it that's come out.
01:43:52.000Doesn't then mean that the whole alternative media is going to be true.
01:43:55.000I mean, a lot of these people are just schizophrenics on the internet, you know, who think that their landlady above them is sending proton beams into their head.
01:44:02.000I mean, that's not my job to respond to all that.
01:44:05.000People are going to see the things I've talked about coming true and happening, even if they don't check out what I'm saying.
01:44:11.000If they check out what I'm saying, they're going to find out it's true right away.
01:44:13.000But even if they don't believe me and all that guy's a nutter, Unfortunately, it's going to happen within the next few years, as everything else I've said has, and then they'll go, oh, that Alex Jones, he was right.
01:44:24.000One of the most obvious fantasy stories for me personally, and I don't intend to offend you with this, but is the story about religion and the Bible and stuff like that, because that seems to me, I mean, pretty far out, but you're a religious person, right?
01:44:38.000Well, I mean, I've been brought up a Christian, and my heritage is a Christian, a Protestant, Baptist, And I do believe in the teachings of Jesus, and I do believe in a higher power, and I don't like what the churches have done with it.
01:44:50.000I'm not a Christian, if the mainline Christianity in the U.S., warmongering, praying for giant Cadillacs and SUVs and diamonds, I mean, if that's the type of Christian, then I'm not.
01:45:03.000But I am a Christian that believes in Jesus and follows Jesus Christ, and I am someone who believes in trying to help the weak.
01:45:11.000And I am someone who believes in the Mosaic Common Law that is the basis of our Anglo-Saxon 1215 Magna Carta, 1776 Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights Constitution.
01:45:23.000So it is who I am, it is my heritage, and I don't throw out my... See, the globalists want you to throw out your Christian heritage because they want to replace it with their bioethics, eugenics religion, and they're really religious.
01:45:35.000They just don't want you to know they are.
01:45:37.000They're really a cultist, most of them.
01:45:39.000Yeah, I mean, one of the things that I've heard, I'm not sure if it was you, because it's hard to distinguish where I get all these conspiracy theories I've heard about from, but one of the conspiracy theories I've heard is that there's an idea to set up a global religion that will tie in to all these ideas.
01:45:54.000And it seems odd to me, Alex, that you believe in religion, that you have religious faith, even though that's your culture.
01:46:02.000Your culture involves all sorts of things, particularly believing in the reasons for the war in Iraq, and it seems odd that you've challenged those aspects, but not the religious aspects.
01:46:11.000Well, I can't get people to admit that they're building FEMA camps, concentration camps, when it's in major newspapers.
01:46:17.000San Francisco Chronicle, Houston Chronicle.
01:46:19.000And so I'm not about to wade into the whole religious fight and whole religious debate with people, and that's something that I also don't engage in.
01:46:27.000I have a news radio show, but I make no secret about That I believe in the tenets that are in the New Testament.
01:46:36.000Because if you don't have that, what else are you going to have?
01:46:39.000You see, what's happening is, when I say they're setting up a world religion, the Pope has called for it in a New World Order.
01:46:46.000The United Nations has put out thousands of documents saying they want it, but they have to first destroy the other religions Or try to discredit them so they can then bring in their new pantheistic earth worship religion where the elite play God and where they sell us on carbon taxes which are really about controlling human development and activity.
01:47:07.000Well recently we've had Tony Blair making terrifying speeches about religion Which frightened me to the very core.
01:47:14.000He was banging on about... I mean he's talking about interfaith cooperation and all these kind of... Exactly!
01:47:19.000They want to merge all the religions in, and then it's hate speech if you don't agree with every other religion, and then you go to jail.
01:47:26.000Okay, so that's the attack on your basic Magna Carta.
01:48:07.000This is one of the things that initially made me think that you weren't quite on the same wavelength as I. Because religion, to me, strikes me as one of those things that marks someone out as slightly insane.
01:48:20.000Well, again, that's what atheists always say to me.
01:48:23.000They say, why are you covering the bohemian grove?
01:48:37.000Well, we have family property here in Texas.
01:48:40.000Thousands of acres, going back to Spanish land grants.
01:48:43.000And I'll be out walking on that a couple times a year when I go there.
01:48:46.000My whole life I go down there many times and one time I had this feeling someone was watching me and I walked about 200 yards to the woods to a high tree where somebody was illegally hunting out of season up in a deer stand and I felt them looking at me.
01:48:59.000How many times in a restaurant do you feel someone looking at you and you turn and someone is looking at you?
01:49:04.000The point is there's more to all of this.
01:49:07.000And all these people try to put it in a box, and these scam artists, religious leaders, I do throw all that out.
01:49:14.000But what I'm saying is that there's something to it.
01:49:18.000And the way I manifest that is in my Christian faith, which I believe in.
01:49:23.000Well, this is what I'm saying to you, is that I understand that the world is a strange and complex place, but putting my faith in something like the Bible is something that doesn't bear out to me logically.
01:49:33.000But it's so popular to hate the Bible, you know?
01:50:54.000I have a show about what the New World Order is doing and what they believe, and so to talk about, you know, who I am and what I believe, what my grandma believes, you know, religiously, I think doesn't even really enter into the equation.
01:51:06.000Listen, Alex, the fact that I don't agree with you on everything doesn't mean to say that I don't congratulate you for what you do and wish you to continue.
01:51:12.000Well, don't let them fluoridate your water over there in England.
01:51:15.000All the major studies show it'll reduce your IQ points.
01:53:07.000I have another interview tonight that I booked myself at 10 p.m.
01:53:12.000and I did a radio interview last night in Canada and then I have that stuff I set up and then Trey Kincaid sets up interviews and Amanda sets up interviews and I do my local once a week TV show and so this is a day in the life of Alex Jones.
01:53:30.000The problem is that I feel great, and I'm enjoying this radio show, and I've got a lot of other news I want to cover, so I've decided just to go into the next hour.
01:53:38.000Sorry folks, that's just the way it is.
01:55:45.000And I'm always, because I need to get them out to people, plus it gets funds in here, and I'm always guilty that I... What else was I guilty about?
01:55:55.000Oh, I'm guilty when I don't take the interviews.
01:56:00.000Because when I don't take the interviews and I go, oh man, I would have talked to tens of thousands of people.
01:56:33.000Oh, this is a guy that went around and tried to prove that the Bible is a scientific fact, and it gives people $250,000 to prove one fact of evolution.
01:56:54.000Well, it was just very interesting about them, because every time anybody would try to challenge their truth, They didn't have any very valuable arguments.
01:57:04.000And I noticed that whenever you spout truth, people can't even phase it.
01:57:10.000They just hide and all that kind of stuff.
01:57:14.000And what I've noticed from the Word of God is that it says a wise man will hear and increase learning.
01:57:23.000And the beginning of wisdom is to fear the Lord.
01:57:32.000And I noticed that our actions have been doing this, and I noticed that a lot of people that we come across when we focus on 9-11 and all this kind of stuff, we run into a lot of spiritual wickedness.
01:57:46.000A lot of people that are very weak, they don't believe in God because their education system.
01:57:52.000Well, if you don't believe in God, you're going to believe in the world.
01:57:58.000So, bottom line, we see healthier societies when they actually do follow what's in the Bible versus what we're doing today, and there's no doubt about that.
01:58:07.000I mean, just the health laws alone are very sensible, and I appreciate your call.
01:58:13.000You know, again, I'm not going to get into religious debates or arguments here.
01:58:17.000It's just every time, almost every time I'm on British radio, they want to attack religion.
01:58:21.000It's real trendy to do that, and my Christianity.
01:58:24.000And it's just, it's a diversion, it's a distraction, but they can't help it.
01:58:27.000Let's go ahead and talk to Anthony in Ohio.
01:59:18.000And, I mean, it really starts to wake you up and you realize, like, wow, these people are just, they're evil.
01:59:24.000I mean, there's no, I mean, you know, I don't really, I don't really consider myself anything Well, that's like B.F. Skinner, you know, wrote several books with, you know, titles about just total human suffering.
01:59:38.000And they said, oh, it's all scientific.
01:59:39.000So what if you kill a bunch of people or kill your own kid?
01:59:41.000You know, it's just beyond good and evil.
01:59:45.000Well, again, they tell you there's no good and evil, so you can't make moral decisions so they can make all the decisions.
01:59:51.000Once they tell you that, they're only telling you to be relativist, so you're like floating around.
02:00:09.000Those type of people, but the best people I know, the hardest working, the folks fighting the New World Order, the people that are really sweet and deep, you know, they are Christian.
02:00:17.000And I've also met some Buddhists that are really sweet, nice people, but mostly Christians.
02:00:20.000And so you also judge a tree by its fruits.
02:00:23.000Yeah, I was actually, well, I was raised Christian, but what really threw me off, you know, before I really opened up to the left-right paradigm, was all these mainline Christians, you know, talking about we have to nuke the Middle East, and you know, bomb this and that, you know, hate all this,
02:00:38.000And just spewing out all this hate, and I was just like, man, I don't want to, you know, seeing all these mainline religious people, not really, you know, whatever, they're kind of compartmentalized, but just seeing all them kind of, you know, spewing all this hate, that's kind of what drove me away, and then, you know, being young and rebellious, and that was the whole kind of point with the religious part, but, you know.
02:01:01.000But anyways, uh, second thing, uh, As far as the no playing thing, it's total, it's just, it's junk.
02:01:08.000No, I mean, the videos they put up, most of them, it's just totally mentally ill.
02:01:14.000You've got a lot of mentally ill, schizophrenics in people, and I'm not being mean, but that's really who they are.
02:01:20.000But then you've got the controllers up above them, and it's real funny.
02:01:23.000Well, it's like, why don't you focus on tangible evidence?
02:01:27.000Why don't you focus on tangible things?
02:01:29.000I mean, okay, so, there's a 0.001% chance, you know, they might have spaced me.
02:01:37.000Okay, well, whatever, you know, why don't you focus on the tangible evidence, you know, such as bombs going off the building, you know.
02:01:44.000The BBC, you know, reporting that, you know, that the buildings fell, but they were clearly in the background.
02:01:51.000I mean, you know, focus on tangible things, and these no-plainers, they just sit around and say, you know, no planes, no planes, you know, and it just It's totally a way that makes this look like... Well, it's meant to get us to debate it instead of staying on track on the serious issues and it's meant for the national media to attack us.
02:02:07.000The national media always brings that up, but never brings up all the serious issues.
02:02:16.000How long is the Japanese TV thing that we've never streamed live?
02:02:19.000This is an interview I did like a year ago with Japanese TV in New York, and we just posted on presentplanet.tv, but I want to stream it live for everybody, so even if you're not a presentplanet.tv member who can't see the video, either on a high-quality download or on the stream, you can at least hear the audio.
02:02:51.000Let's go ahead and... By the way, if you just tuned in to the streams, you're used to the three hours, three hour live Genesis Show, and you just popped in, and you're going, what is this?
02:03:02.000There's no commercials, there's no music, there's no bumpers.
02:03:05.000It's Alex in a little bit more relaxed format.
02:04:15.000But I'm having fun for a few weeks without the commercials.
02:04:18.000And then sometimes I may even, when that fourth hour is over, I may just do 20 minutes of calls that's not on GCN.
02:04:24.000A lot of times when I'm doing interviews now here at the office, most of them I do at home, and people want to do it on ISDN or even phone patch, I'll just put the headphones on and you'll suddenly see an icon on the website On Prison Planet and Infowars, it says Alex will be live today on this show, and you'll see video of it.
02:04:39.000We'll pump in the audio feed of the show, whether it's something in Salt Lake City or New York or South Africa or London.
02:04:46.000And as you just heard last hour, we're going to do that too for you.
02:04:49.000And we're also going to take these 4th hour shows, or sometimes when they're 5th hour, 6th hour shows.
02:04:56.000Might be an hour, might be 3 hours long.
02:06:06.000I wanted to talk to you about the religious thing.
02:06:10.000I'm a Christian myself and I attend Shoreline Christian Center.
02:06:15.000I'm really looking for current events to be talked about.
02:06:20.000I go in there and it's real Jesus focused everything about the focus on Jesus, and that's great and awesome.
02:06:26.000But Jesus was always focused on fighting and exposing the corrupt government, but they tell you, no, it's all about how to be happy and how to make money and how to feel good and go out to eat after the church service.
02:06:39.000So I just, yeah, you know, I really would like to attend a church that would actually talk about current events and how that ties into the religious factor and just, you know, what's going on in the world today, and I just don't hear any of that, and it's kind of Kind of frustrating at the same time, you know, I'd like to go and learn because I'm a new Christian.
02:07:06.00026,000 preachers have been recruited the last two years, and it's every major megachurch that we've looked into is in it.
02:07:13.000And, I mean, if you go there for a year, you will probably hear about, when an emergency comes, do as the government says, Romans 13, you know, we must serve.
02:07:22.000And then if a disaster happens, you go to church, he's going to be there going, taketh the chippeth of the Lord, submit unto the government.
02:08:08.000Do it fast, though, because whoever it is in the background is going really loud.
02:08:10.000I saw a video that was just recently added on YouTube about... You were talking... A guy was asking you a question from... Was it Project Think or something like that?
02:09:22.000And it makes me mad that a bunch of people who are playing the little leagues, who I wish would play in the bigger leagues, you know, just have this... But I think that person means... Well, I really thought about it afterwards.
02:09:36.000They haven't said much, really, except a few bad things about me that weren't true.
02:09:40.000But overall, it's more of followers of people that One of them is completely out of their minds, and the other, I'm not sure what is, but, you know, if I wanted to waste time, there's no doubt I'd get judgments against them.
02:09:51.000But enforcing the judgments is harder.
02:09:57.000And we have family over there, and I know how to get people internationally, you know, in court and get judgments against them.
02:10:03.000But it's hard to squeeze blood out of a turnip.
02:10:05.000And I just don't like people talking about my family and lying about them.
02:10:09.000You know, saying things that aren't true, and I blew up about it.
02:10:12.000Because, I mean, I'm a mean son of a bitch.
02:10:14.000I mean, and by the way, I'm on some totem pole here about, oh, I'm Christian, so I'm all, you know, tiptoeing around, and I'm telling you how to live, so, ooh, there's a video of Alex drinking a beer on the internet.
02:10:26.000I don't, yeah, when I go through cycles in my life and I'm drinking beer, I don't hide it when there's a video camera.
02:10:32.000I talk about how I drink sometimes, or how I have problems with cigarettes.
02:10:36.000None of that matters compared to him putting sodium fluoride in the water.
02:10:40.000I mean, you know, don't let your 18-year-old drink, it's of the devils, you'll go to hell.
02:10:44.000But let's, you know, let them drink sodium fluoride that eats holes in their brains.
02:11:40.000He also said there's flying UFO submarines our government has, and there's aliens controlling everything with big eyeballs and giant heads, and I don't want to talk bad about William Cooper, and here's the problem.
02:11:52.000You see how call after call is about This soap opera of who likes what group and who's behind what group and my show has never really been about that.
02:12:04.000And William Cooper got really jealous of me and viciously attacked me and said lies about me.
02:14:14.000I was on air saying, in July, I think he, like a month before, was on air, not saying call the White House, but saying something's up, because man, how could you not?
02:14:23.000They were on air prepping everyone for the attack, going, there's going to be an attack, give all your rights up when it happens.
02:14:30.000It isn't about who predicts something.
02:14:35.000It's about You know, it's like ten guys invented radio the same month.
02:14:42.000You know, the technology gets to a certain level and then it gets invented.
02:15:22.000And then you've got all these wild other little denominations that are just, like, hating my guts.
02:15:29.000And I wish that they could end up meeting movie stars or end up meeting bankers or end up meeting people because then you find out it's boring and it really doesn't do anything.
02:15:37.000Unless they're really cool people like Willie Nelson or Charlie Sheen or some of the other folks I know because it's cool because they're neat people.
02:15:43.000But not cool because people know who you are or you get the best table at the restaurant and turn into a fat ass.
02:15:50.000You know, I wish they could experience it and find out that just because every time I get another big star on or break some other big news story, because I've got the name out there and people feel comfortable coming here and doing it, it makes my brethren hate me even more like it's about me!
02:18:40.000And he came to this conclusion that it was a British oligarchy merged with the Rothschilds, and that they really are a cultist, and he got a lot of their documents and things.
02:18:51.000But, uh... I'd already read about Khazarians and all that, but he showed me books, and I read books he had.
02:23:27.000It was a trial of this billionaire hedge fund guy, but it came out that Pelicano, and Pelicano admitted that, yeah, he talked about having Aaron Russo killed for this movie producer, saying Aaron had ripped him off a million and a half bucks or something.
02:24:45.000It's a great idea, I think, to be completely honest with you, but you need sleep and whatnot.
02:24:52.000My question is that I understand that starting the whole revolution from our home of the USA is a very, you know, the first place to start, obviously.
02:25:00.000But I was more interested in wondering around what's going on in say, like, Africa and Asia and places that we don't get as much information as we could.
02:25:10.000Like, how would one go about obtaining more of that?
02:25:13.000You mean you want to know information about what's happening in African places, or you want to know how to reach to them and warn them?
02:25:22.000Well, I guess the first idea would be to see exactly what's going on there.
02:25:25.000From my understanding, a lot of political borders and things along those lines are getting moved around more than what we think, or what I think.
02:25:33.000Well, mainstream news doesn't really tell us what's going on in the world.
02:25:38.000Um, so the general thought is that you would have to come to GCN or someone like you to get that kind of information.
02:25:44.000Um, and your main focus is on the U.S.
02:25:49.000Yeah, but this is kind of the main engine of the New World Order right now, run out of Europe and England and Israel and a few other places.
02:26:06.000Let me just briefly say, That if you want to know what's happening in Africa, I go to UN websites, because they admit it, but always put a good spin on it.
02:26:13.000If you want to read, you can read all the African newspapers, you can get it from different sides, have experts on about it, keep track of what's happening in Asia.
02:26:22.000You always want to know what's happening, what's going on.
02:26:24.000I feed all that data and knowledge into my basic info, but I'm only a limited person, you know, with a limited perspective of what's going on in the world.
02:26:34.000And I understand, kind of organically, what the larger computers do with algorithms to see trends.
02:26:39.000Well, that's the art form of the human mind.
02:26:41.000I can see trends just by, in kind of gestalts, in larger pictures by studying it.
02:26:45.000Over time, more and more integrates, and the picture gets clearer and clearer.
02:26:49.000And then also you begin to understand human activities, human interactions throughout history that tend to be the same.
02:26:55.000Then you can put a high-tech overlay on it and kind of see the architecture, where it's growing, what it's doing, trending out.
02:27:02.000And then even foreseeing problems the New World Order will have or unforeseen things that might help them.
02:27:09.000It basically gets into chaos theory and then information warfare integration into the public, just getting outside the set paradigms of the mapmakers of the mind, making their own maps and going without that and becoming bold, not watching as much television, integrating with their friends making their own maps and going without that and becoming bold, not watching as much television, But...
02:27:30.000Let's go ahead and talk to Clay in Texas.
02:27:32.000based but on a populist view of the population against the elite but not believing through the false paradigm the elite gave us that populism means communism to take the rich's money because the rich actually created it to take the middle class's money which the poor think are the elite to then transfer it to the elite let's go ahead and talk to clay in texas clay you're on the air yes hey i want to say uh you know one of my favorite things about you is uh you treat all your callers with respect i think you're going to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit I think that's admirable.
02:28:42.000And so he was kind of, you know, you know, controlling it by he had a live, you know, I mean, he had a tape show and he was letting me know that even, they even joked around with, we're going to get you now.
02:28:54.000But it doesn't matter, the transmission was already sent out in full.
02:28:58.000Have you heard the conspiracy theory where they say that there wasn't even a Jesus at all?
02:29:03.000Yeah, look, Zeitgeist is, the second and third part is excellent, spot-on info.
02:29:09.000And I appreciate your call, but the first third of it, and I haven't seen the latest version, is just absolute crap.
02:29:14.000And it's just made-up, shoddy disinfo, and uh...
02:29:39.000Actually, I sent this to Trey and Aaron over the weekend because I was on hold on your Sunday show and didn't quite get through because the end of the show came.
02:29:49.000We got an email a little while back, a week ago, about the compact fluorescent light bulbs.
02:29:55.000What, admitting they have masses of mercurium in their deadly poison?
02:29:58.000Well, yeah, I mean, we all know that's the case, but the way the email was phrased was like, well, in fact the subject was, are compact fluorescent lamps harmful in your family?
02:30:07.000And it acted like, you know, oh, take care and do this, and open up all your windows and everything will be just fine.
02:30:14.000It's just, and it actually, you know, it says you're being encouraged and it didn't say anything about the new law that Congress passed at the end of last year or anything like that.
02:30:22.000So I just thought it was pretty, you know, here's another example of the spin trying to go out from the government to its employees about how, you know, this is what you need to do and downplaying all the risks, especially with the mercury.
02:31:01.000And looking into someone's mind, And they, how did I get off into eyes?
02:31:08.000Oh yeah, phosphorescent, I'm pretty tired now, with no break.
02:31:12.000Phosphorescent, they have those that last eight years.
02:31:17.000But they've just decided it's going to be fluorescent, which are associated with seizures, depression, everything else, because they quote, use less power, so that's also better for the earth.
02:31:26.000And so now it's the law in a few years, you won't be able to get the wondrous phosphorescent, you'll never see that pretty yellow light again, it'll all be green nightmare light.
02:31:33.000And then they're filled with lead and mercury, and that's totally toxic.
02:31:36.000If one breaks in your house, you're supposed to call a hazmat team.
02:31:40.000Just like they said, put MBTE in all the water supplies, in all the gas, and now it's in 49 states and causing massive birth defects and totally toxic and just so happens to sterilize people.
02:31:56.000Okay, I'm giving each person 30 seconds.
02:31:57.000I am getting tired and I want to air this Japanese TV interview and then we'll go back into regular retransmission until I'm live tomorrow.
02:32:04.000Don't forget, ladies and gentlemen, that you can hear this for free on the audio streams at InfoWars.com, but please help us spread the word.
02:32:12.000By the way, we put a mass email out today on the email list.
02:32:15.000I asked Paul to get me this morning to do that.
02:32:21.000I want to ask the listeners to tell folks about it on the message boards and help us, because I'm committing to do this and kind of inaugurating it with these first few shows going overboard.
02:32:31.000It's going to keep it down to one hour in the future here, except it is kind of fun.
02:33:16.000We're going to be playing videos off that.
02:33:17.000So instead of me just talking about a YouTuber playing the audio, we can show you what's happening on the web.
02:33:23.000So there is a lot going on at prisonplanet.tv, not just my weekly report or all the videos that are there, all my films in super high quality and the CDN servers we've got sitting out to you super fast, a lot better than it used to be.
02:33:36.000I mean, it's getting better and better, and then you get the fourth hour live with the video at PrisonPlanet.tv.
02:33:55.000I want you to know that I love when you digress, too, because that opens up a whole wealth of knowledge and information that, you know, we need.
02:34:02.000I wanted to talk to you yesterday when you had Alan White on, and, you know, he made a point that all of these things that are happening with the new order, they're passed on from generation to generation.
02:34:14.000And I wanted to ask you, you know, I want to ask you two things, but the first thing is, is the grand architect, the author of all of these things, is it the devil?
02:34:23.000No, at the top, at the white brotherhood, at the very top, and the red brotherhood, and the black brotherhood beneath that, and that's all admitted, and I've been to one of their ceremonies and seen it, just like I was always told, you know, black, red, and then white in the middle, that they really believe Lucifer is God, and they believe Jesus is the bad guy.
02:37:49.000Well, you know, sometimes, yeah, in the past they told big men with little wives to tell the women to watch how much they eat.
02:37:56.000Now they don't do that, but it actually was a good thing to do.
02:38:00.000But I'm really sorry to hear about your son, but you know he's in heaven and, you know, just God's got his reasons and just have another one.
02:39:38.000You know, see here's my thing, they said it was a cord failure, you know, but see here's how they handled it.
02:39:43.000They didn't want to, when the doctor that was my wife's actual doctor, you had to get a substitute because my wife had decreased fetal movement and she was telling me that, you know, it was one afternoon and
02:39:56.000We started going towards, you know, calling the doctor and everything, and, uh, the substitute doctor, when everything was all said and done, when they found no feet, you know, and they were going to take him out and have a C-section, uh, she, you know, she told me that the only thing she could see wrong was that the cord was kind of bent.
02:40:15.000Alright, and then I was thinking, well, you know, the day before this happened, before he passed like this, you know, they monitored my wife, you know, like they were always doing, and they were saying everything's fine, he's big, we'll probably take him out, Uh, you know, like later on during that week, you know, like the Friday.
02:40:30.000Oh, they were saying they were going to do a cesarean?
02:40:45.000And the cords do get wrapped around them and stuff, and that's why it's important to get those last sonograms.
02:40:49.000Sounds like you were doing that, and it's nobody's fault.
02:40:52.000It's just, you know, Lord giveth, Lord taketh away, and that's just the way it is, and I'm sad for you, my friend, and just have another baby, and it'll all work out in the end.
02:41:09.000You know, my grandfather crashed an airplane right when he got in World War II and got hurt, a fighter pilot.
02:41:16.000And so, most of the people early on in the war and his squadron died.
02:41:19.000I wouldn't exist if he wouldn't have had equipment malfunction.
02:41:22.000It turned out that plane had big problems.
02:41:41.000sir take care thank you thank you very painful and i'll pray for you and your wife um was that danny in tennessee i can't take any more calls on that ron and derek show's over i think we're going to end it on that that's pretty depressing uh if you want to be able to see the video and check out what we're doing i was already pretty tired and the heat's gone up they turn the ac up man i'm sweating and uh i was already tired that bums me out so i'm gonna go ahead and end the transmission on that and i will uh
02:42:10.000Here's the Japanese TV piece, and I will see you back tomorrow live at 11am.
02:42:16.000If you want to see the video, this audio you're hearing on the web, go to PrisonPlanet.tv membership and get all the films, the audio, everything else with it while you're at it.
02:42:23.000Hey, let's go out with our cool bumper music though, that Starship Troopers I played ten years ago on the radio that I'd lost.
02:46:13.000A modern steel building has never collapsed from fire.
02:46:18.000And we have underwriting laboratories that underwrote the buildings, and their own studies showed that the buildings should not have collapsed.
02:46:23.000We have Tower 1 and Tower 2, both 110 stories apiece, and their architects and designers stated that they were designed to take two large jet aircraft crashing into each building.
02:46:35.000But on 9-11, Tower 1 and 2 fell mysteriously.
02:46:39.000But the media doesn't like to focus on 7.
02:46:42.000A 47-story building, way down the block, that had several small fires in it that day, and then imploded with the classical signature of a controlled demolition from explosives.
02:46:54.000We see the central column being blown out first and collapsing.
02:46:57.000Then if you look at close-ups of the video, you see the blast points.
02:47:01.000boom, and you see it fall into a perfect pile, not even seriously damaging buildings that were only about 25 feet away on both sides.
02:47:10.000So we know that there were bombs in Tower 1 and 2.
02:47:14.000We have firefighters, we have police reporting saying that it was as if there were bombs, that there were explosions going off right before they collapsed.
02:47:23.000Tower 1 and 2 were blown up unconventionally from the top down.
02:47:27.000But as it collapses, you can see the blast points going boom, boom, boom, boom.
02:48:15.000A modern building had never fallen from fire, but even if it was, engineers and experts have said it would crinkle and bend and just fall over.
02:48:23.000Blow with huge thousands of feet of white plumes and all this toxic dust They said all the body parts were in small pieces all the computers were blown into little bitty small pieces Everything was polarized by the explosives, but there weren't just explosive charges in tower one two and seven This is very important.
02:48:42.000Professor Stephen Jones has gotten samples from some of the memorial parks of the steel and they took aircraft photos weeks after and found 2,500, 2,300 degree molten pools of steel that were even there months later.
02:48:58.000Well, jet fuel doesn't burn anywhere near that hot.
02:49:00.000These were very low burning fires, oxygen star fires.
02:49:04.000Well, then how did you have all this molten steel down there in the basements?
02:49:10.000He had a hypothesis that only thermite could cause that, and even before he knew that demolition experts used thermite and thermate to cut through columns, And they also used explosives on top of that.
02:49:31.000It had the byproducts of the patented thermate, with sulfur and other additives, which causes the thermite to burn even faster.
02:49:40.000This is conclusive proof, not just of conventional explosives, but thermite, thermate, the patented system used to destroy these buildings.
02:50:03.000People talk about the mystery of the airplanes and certainly folks have noticed pods or different attachments or claim there weren't windows.
02:50:13.000I really don't subscribe to that theory.
02:50:20.000government agents who had been trained at military bases and the head of the Defense Language School of Monterey, California went public saying we were forced to train these people.
02:50:29.000They were also trained at Pensacola Naval Air Station.
02:50:32.000They thought they were taking part in live drills to test security to see if they could get on board the aircraft.
02:50:37.000Once they were on board the aircraft, nerve gas was released, killing everyone aboard.
02:50:42.000Then remote control systems took control of the aircraft and flew them into the buildings.
02:50:48.000And this is actually in Operation Northwoods, an official U.S.
02:50:51.000government plan To carry out terror attacks to blame on enemies.
02:50:56.000Our own government talks about how they would remote control aircraft and use them as weapons.
02:51:01.000And the CIA that morning was running a drill with the Pentagon of flying hijacked jets into the World Trade Center, Pentagon, CIA headquarters, and many other targets.
02:51:11.000So the rest of the government thought it was all a drill.
02:51:13.000That's why on the tapes they say, is this real world or exercise?
02:51:22.000And whenever the New World Order crime syndicate carries out terror attacks, they always have drills at the exact same time to confuse the good part of the government.
02:51:30.000The majority of the government's good.
02:51:31.000It's very tiny, criminal, mafia groups within the government that are doing this, and that's exactly what happened on 9-11.
02:51:39.000So people talk about the mysteries of the planes.
02:51:45.000I don't believe that that's what happened because I have inside Pentagon sources that two years before it broke in the news that they were running drills.
02:51:51.000I already had the information that they were running that drill by late 2001, and it didn't come out until 2003 in the media that they were running drills.
02:52:00.000Then people ask, well, what about the cell phone calls?
02:52:03.000It's very easy to fake cell phone calls.
02:52:43.000So the few real calls we've got, they're saying, I can't breathe.
02:52:47.000You see, and that fits in with what the information I have from the Pentagon sources is that they put their own agents on board, posing as hijackers, taking part in the drills.
02:52:56.000We know these men were trained at U.S.
02:53:12.000The Pentagon controversy is one of the central things that the media has focused on in the United States.
02:53:19.000And the reason that there is a controversy is because we have the first photos and video of the facade, the face of the Pentagon, where it was hit by that jet aircraft that pulled some impossible maneuvers.
02:53:32.000And it's a little bitty 16 to 18 foot hole.
02:53:35.000Now later, after fire, it collapsed into a bigger hole, but you don't have any big engines, any big parts, any seats.
02:53:43.000They've never shown us any of the bodies.
02:53:44.000It's just a red smoking perfectly circular hole, and then you even look at the video they've released, it's a white-hot flash, looks like an explosion, you don't see a plane anywhere there.
02:53:58.000I don't know what really happened at the Pentagon, but I do know this, we're not being told the truth, we're being lied to.
02:54:04.000And that's what we attempt to cover at my news website, Infowars.com.
02:54:08.000So the last thing, the number four, the government cover-up.
02:54:14.000Not only do we have all the evidence of government involvement, at 9-11, then we have their cover-up.
02:54:21.000George Bush tried to appoint their family confidant, Henry Kissinger, to be the supposed independent head.
02:54:28.000That would be like if a gangster was on trial and he appointed his brother to be the judge.
02:54:32.000So, number one, the 9-11 Commission was not independent.
02:54:37.000The 9-11 Commission never mentioned Building 7 collapsing.
02:54:40.000The 9-11 Commission lied and said there were no central columns in Tower 1 or 2.
02:54:45.000When Nomura Yamasaki overbuilt the buildings with 47 giant steel columns in each one of the center, overbuilt for strength, the Commission just claims there's no columns in the middle.
02:54:56.000It's like saying the sun didn't come up this morning.
02:54:58.000So, just incredible lies on that front.
02:55:02.000Also, about half the commission is involved in business with defense contractors and defense brokers like the Carlisle Group.
02:55:09.000Some of them are even involved with the Bin Laden family in some of their businesses.
02:55:15.000But the really big cover-up is the fact that firefighters and emergency workers, this has been in our news, found the emergency black boxes, the data records.
02:55:25.000They're really orange with black stripes on them.
02:55:30.000And the government then announced, we never found them, and they loaded them on four-wheelers and drove them out and told the emergency people, you never saw those black boxes.
02:55:40.000They told the FAA to shred all the tapes and put them in different trash cans that day.
02:55:45.000They told FBI agents that were following the, quote, hijackers, or really government agents, to back off.
02:55:51.000Then when FBI agents tried to go public, like FBI agent Robert Wright, they threatened to arrest him.
02:55:58.000The head of counter-terrorism for the FBI, FBI agent John O'Neill, tried to go public warning him of an impending attack and they told him to shut up.
02:56:06.000So there are so many, there are so many countless examples of cover-up.
02:56:11.000We have the government banning photography and video around the World Trade Center complex in the days after.
02:56:17.000We have them under guard hauling the steel away to China and South Korea and having it melted down, not letting anyone test it.
02:56:25.000Thank God we were able later to get some small samples that were shipped to some memorial parks and find the thermate in it.
02:56:30.000So systematically, there has been a continual cover-up, and the administration has lied and lied.
02:56:36.000First, they claimed they had never heard of a plan to fly hijacked jets into buildings.
02:57:07.000Many other scholars have written analysis of it.
02:57:09.000They are counting on us being stupid, They're counting on us, not researching the facts, but their cover-up is imploding.
02:57:16.000The majority of the American people now know 9-11 is an inside job, carried out as a pretext for a Pax Americana, global, tyrannical empire.
02:57:29.000You want to ask those bottom ones about the symposium and all that?
02:58:26.000Well, I am the father of the 9-11 Truth Movement.
02:58:29.000I was aware that the attacks were coming months before and warned the people and specifically said that our own government was going to attack the World Trade Centers and then blame it on their agent, their asset, Bin Laden.
02:58:39.000And day one, I went public on 9-11 and I helped organize a huge meeting in Dallas, Texas a giant meeting in Los Angeles and was involved in a big meeting in Chicago where we brought in experts from all over the United States and North America to expose 9-11 as an inside job and we're having a great effect.
02:58:59.000It was also carried on national television here in the United States and millions and millions of people have woken up because of it.
03:00:02.000We had the former director of the U.S.
03:00:03.000Star Wars Directed Energy Weapons Program, who was also a fighter-bomber pilot from Vietnam, also an interceptor pilot, Dr. Bob Bowman, and he revealed the facts of how NORAD stood down that day, and how people say the government did nothing on 9-11.
03:00:21.000The government would have done nothing and had its default position, they would have sent fighters up and shot down those aircraft.
03:00:26.000But two months before 9-11, Dick Cheney took the authority for generals and admirals to shoot aircraft down away from them, only to himself.
03:00:35.000And he was in control, in the bunker, that morning.
03:00:38.000And Norm Mineta, the Transportation Secretary, was in the bunker with him.
03:00:42.000And he saw the aide walk over to the Vice President and said, the plane's 50 miles out, it's 30 miles out, it's 20 miles out.
03:00:56.000And Dick Cheney said, the order still stands, and they stood down.
03:01:00.000This is all right out in plain view, and they let that aircraft come into the Pentagon.
03:01:06.000So that's the type of things that we discussed there.
03:01:07.000We had Dr. Stephen Jones breaking down explosives in the buildings.
03:01:12.000We had other experts getting into the history of government-sponsored terror.
03:01:18.000One of the most important areas that we discussed at the conference was the history of US government-sponsored terror.
03:01:24.000In 1953, our government admits they staged terror attacks in Iran to overthrow their elected government.
03:01:30.000Our government admits they staged terror attacks in Europe in the 70s and 80s to blame it on the Soviets.
03:01:36.000Our government admits they had a plan to bomb D.C., to hijack jets for remote control, and to attack our own military bases and blame it on Cuba.
03:01:44.000And that plan, of course, got nixed by the President, then JFK.
03:02:03.000Now the LBJ presidential tapes have been released where he's on the phone with Defense Secretary McNamara saying, hey, we staged this attack.
03:02:11.000We get to expand the war against Vietnam.
03:02:24.000Hitler, of course, firebombed his own Reichstag, the evidence shows, for a crackdown.
03:02:30.000Then in 1939, to attack Poland, he staged an attack on his own military base in Gleiwitz, and then said the Poles had attacked Germany, and the Germans said, well, let's get them.
03:02:38.000So governments themselves do this over and over and over and over again.
03:02:43.000So we also discuss the history of government-sponsored terror.
03:02:46.000But the key is Operation Northwoods, the official U.S. government plan to stage terror attacks and kill American citizens and maim American citizens to blame it on foreign enemies as a pretext for global empire and enslavement.
03:03:01.000First, this North, this Operation, what about it?
03:03:08.000And if you type it into Google, just type in Operation Northwoods into Google, you can pull it up from the National Security Archive, Library of Congress, ABC News, headline, U.S. government.