Alex Jones takes aim at the war on drugs and calls for the decriminalization of all drugs. Alex Jones is a conservative radio host and host of the Alex Jones Show on the GCN Radio Network. He is a frequent contributor to the New York Times and has been featured on CNN and NPR. He is the author of the book, "The War on Drugs" and is a regular contributor on Fox News and CNN.
00:01:57.000What's happening here in America is that our government is inadvertently supplying the hard drugs to the people in this country, then they're putting the people who use them in this country in jail.
00:02:08.000Fixated on terror, most Americans have forgotten they are fighting another war.
00:02:15.000But from its inception, the drug war has become the longest, most costly and destructive war in American history.
00:02:29.000The drug war is a perfect continuing example of why we will never win the war on terrorism.
00:02:35.000Because it captures the ineffectiveness of the U.S.
00:02:38.000government, and it captures the fact That it's being used against poor people and not against the people who benefit most from drugs, which are the bankers that launder the money.
00:02:53.000We don't send nicotine addicts to jail.
00:03:00.000Do you mean they'll legalize marijuana and you can buy heroin at 7-Eleven?
00:03:04.000People have to realize that most of our history we didn't have federal laws against the use of drugs.
00:03:09.00050 billion dollars a year at the local, state, national level clogging our courts year after year.
00:03:15.000I mean people fighting the drug war need to articulate that what we're after is not blanket legalization but decriminalization.
00:03:22.000Why in the world do we have millions of innocent young people wasting away in prison when the big people who are committing these huge atrocious crimes are getting away every day?
00:03:39.000My own personal opinion, I think the jail cell is better than the rehab.
00:03:43.000This year is the 30th anniversary of the Drug Enforcement Agency.
00:03:53.000It was created by Richard Nixon in 1973.
00:03:56.000And Richard Nixon is really the creator of this drug war from 1971.
00:04:04.000With every passing day of this drug war, the battle line seems to be getting harder and harder to see.
00:04:09.000And yet it's almost impossible to believe that the same rules apply to everyone.
00:04:16.000Well, a lot of us are very uncomfortable with this notion of a war on drugs.
00:04:36.000What we attempted to do was articulate a very different concept, which was viewing the drug issue as a cancer-affecting American community.
00:07:07.000I mean, I burn with anger, even when I'm not on air, and you know that, and I know you do, knowing they ship it in and then put us in prison for it.
00:07:50.000But, you know, like the lessons learned when we went to the RNC back in 2004.
00:07:56.000That was definitely something that I learned a lot of lessons and how to deal with various situations.
00:08:02.000One of the things I'd like to start by talking about is that everybody out there should go and just Google past donors to the Partnership for a Drug-Free America and start researching who is financing this thing called Partnership for a Drug-Free America and this fake, this front that they've given it like it's like a bunch of angry mothers of children who have died of drug overdoses that are all
00:08:52.000I mean, to be clear, they know that it's their alcohol and pharmaceuticals that are killing 99% literally, so they know how to give you a boogeyman to go after instead of their stuff.
00:09:02.000Prohibition was ending, and it was the alcohol makers, the distillers, who did come out and push Yeah, and as crazy as it sounds, I really, um, and most people are always going to argue this about the whole, like, I just want to get high argument, and that's what they've done so well.
00:09:17.000to do so i mean this was this is diabolical yeah and it is you know crazy the town that i really um...
00:09:25.000and most people are always going to argue this about the whole like i just want to get high argument and that's what they've done so well i don't think that there's hope for our country until we do legalize marijuana Well, Kevin, do I use any drugs?
00:10:00.000Right, but that's, you know, but the government is going to continuously use that thing of just like, oh look, it's a bunch of stupid tie-dye wearing hippies who want to legalize this stuff so they can get high.
00:10:15.000And they've used that same kind of line and it's still working today.
00:10:19.000You know, and it's still working today when When people bring it up and, you know, I mean, I don't know if you follow the groups like MPP, who's a marijuana policy project, and they're fighting for medical marijuana.
00:10:37.000Sure, Willie Nelson's involved, Mark Stepnowski, the Dallas Cowboy, sure.
00:10:40.000Yeah, yeah, and, you know, I mean, these, you know, they're fighting a good fight out there, but, you know, there's also another really good documentary on choke time that I would urge everybody to see called In Pot We Trust.
00:10:53.000Where it kind of shows what was going on here in Southern California and the DEA raids and how they track down the marijuana and how they're, uh, how, you know, and that's another thing the drug war has created too is that we, you know, we have 11 states now that have legalized medical marijuana, but you still have the federal government coming in and stepping, stepping in on it.
00:11:12.000So, you know, I would say marijuana is at the nexus of this whole thing.
00:11:17.000And so it's also at kind of the nexus of like the state versus federal.
00:11:21.000And really, you know, when I go to universities and I've been doing more and more speaking at Memphis, Tennessee on the 15th, you know, people, one of the questions that always comes up is just saying, so you're saying we should just legalize drugs and kids should be, you know, my sons and daughters should be allowed to buy crystal meth at the 7-Eleven and PCP, that's what you're saying?
00:11:46.000And that's how the drug warriors have sold this thing, is like, that's That would be the alternative to what we have now.
00:11:55.000And they've done a really good job of making everybody believe it.
00:11:59.000Well, an even bigger issue is we've gone from 300,000 cops to 2 million cops.
00:12:03.000We've gone from 500,000 people in prison to 4,000 behind bars and 4 million more in the system.
00:12:09.000Now they want to go to 3 million cops.
00:12:11.000They're talking about going to 4 million cops in the next decade.
00:12:14.000They've all got to have something to do.
00:12:15.000Now, back when we had 300,000 cops, they'd come if your house got robbed or your car got stolen.
00:12:20.000Now they won't come, but they will set up a checkpoint or taser you for talking back.
00:12:24.000I mean, this is done scientifically by design to bring us into tyranny.
00:12:28.000Like you said last hour, they've set up the drug war, they have created it, and now they're just flipping it into the war on terror.
00:12:35.000Kind of like they said, oh, it's just brown-skinned Al-Qaeda.
00:12:37.000Now Fox every day, there's blonde-haired Al-Qaeda.
00:12:55.000I know it was in the ghetto, but the media and the government worked very closely to Try to blow this thing into some sort of epidemic proportion.
00:13:09.000And Reagan is the one who, you know, came up with the drug act of 1986 or 87.
00:13:17.000And he was a total puppet being run by Bush Sr.
00:13:19.000Yeah, I mean, these guys basically discovered, like, you know, what an incredibly easy way it would be to control entire populations of people with crack cocaine.
00:13:37.000It's insane, and it's just what makes my blood boil is to know, I mean, look, everybody, you know, who are you going to talk to who's going to still sit there and say, yeah, Nixon was a good person?
00:13:46.000I mean, everybody is coming to the realization that Nixon was a crook and a liar and a thief and a cheater and a psycho and all those things.
00:14:19.000How much time did you really spend making this?
00:14:21.000I mean, I remember... Well, it's like four going on.
00:14:22.000I mean, you know, going on five years if you're going to include, like, the festivals and the... I remember you consulting with me and I was sitting around your table saying, what do you think I ought to put in this?
00:14:30.000And going and doing shoots with you and stuff and doing research with you four years ago.
00:14:34.000Yeah, it was like the summer of 2003, I think, that I... I was really... The film, Ron Mann's Grass, which is a great film, narrated by Woody Harrelson, And I think Chris Athenas was playing it on local access TV in Austin and I actually saw it there for the first time and I was like...
00:15:17.000Again, we've got it up on Infowars.com for sale right now, folks.
00:15:21.000You can call 888-253-3139 to get it, or go to AmericanDrugWar.com.
00:15:27.000Kevin, give us kind of a synopsis, a wide view, then let's focus in on key areas.
00:15:33.000Well, I kind of follow a timeline, starting off with the creation of the DEA in 71, and I parallel that to myself as You know, growing up as a young teenager in the early 70s with a brother who was schizophrenic and had a drug problem.
00:15:54.000A very common thing of having, you know, older corporate parents who are both heavy, heavy drinkers.
00:16:01.000But my parents were not the type of people that You know, ever beat me, or got in fights, or... No, your dad was a really nice guy, but he was like something out of a movie, of a caricature of a corporate executive, and I remember sitting around drinking vodka martinis with him, because Kevin used to live here in Austin, and his dad had a ranch out in Fredericksburg, and I liked your dad, but at the same time, it was drugs, everyone needs to go to prison for them, and I got family that's the same way, not my dad, but folks out in the country, and it's like, but we drink our whiskey every night.
00:16:30.000Well yeah, we lived in Los Angeles when we were back in the early fifties and my brother got schizophrenia and they wanted to blame it on the LSD and the marijuana and I remember my mom used to He just stood up at night crying and actually saying, you know, if it hadn't been for those dang beetles, you know, if it hadn't been for those dang beetles bringing those drugs over here from England.
00:17:12.000So, you know, and in that time I try to, like, go into, like, a little bit of the histories learned from Prohibition and parallel the classic gang leader of today with Al Capone.
00:17:24.000You know, some people might say, um, Ricky Ross was a modern-day Al Capone, so you could have him say, Ricky was that, or this other guy in my film, T. Rogers, who was the co-founder of the Bloods.
00:17:35.000It's funny, he was just on Glenn Beck the other day, and Glenn Beck totally cut him off and was kind of weird with him.
00:17:42.000But he's kind of breaking out doing some more stuff himself.
00:17:46.000But try to just compare that, because, you know, a lot of people will roll their eyes.
00:17:50.000Once again, it's like when people, you know, on the movement trying to end the drug war bring up these age-old arguments that make total sense, the people on the other side will just roll their eyes and just say, oh, that old argument I heard a hundred times, but you can't Debate the drug war without talking about the prohibition of alcohol and what happened with the prohibition of alcohol.
00:18:10.000And we're going to do that, but before I forget, let me throw this in.
00:18:13.000The one good argument they've got, and of course at its base it's still a fraud, but it sounds good, is look at these gangbangers.
00:18:18.000Look at how nuts these drug heads are.
00:18:21.000Look at all the crime and murder associated with it.
00:18:26.000Look at these poor people getting rich.
00:18:28.000They focus the drug war down on the low-level distributor, retailer level, and they make it a racial thing, just like in the movie The Godfather, which is based on a true story, where he says, you know, we'll keep it in the colored areas, they're animals anyways, let them lose their souls.
00:18:45.000And so that was the attitude, the red light district was always on the other side of the tracks, so it was also a way, like in Thule, as you cover in the film, to wage war against them.
00:18:54.000But their main argument is, well, look at all the money, look at the crime.
00:18:57.000You're always going to have criminals.
00:19:00.000So we're not for the criminals that are involved in robbery and other things.
00:19:04.000It's that you now gave them more money, more funding, more power, a way to corrupt police, just like with prohibition, as you cover in the film.
00:19:10.000Well, yeah, I mean, and let's face it, if we outlawed cigarettes tomorrow, then these street gangs, the Bloods and Crips, would be selling cigarettes tomorrow.
00:19:53.000So, you know, regulation will always work better than prohibition.
00:19:57.000And history shows that over and over again.
00:19:59.000Yeah, we're not saying, you know, we say, oh, you want to sell heroin at the store.
00:20:04.000Well, back when they did sell heroin and anybody could buy it at the five and nine, we had a much smaller amount of people on it.
00:20:10.000Yeah, no, they've actually done studies on per capita basis that shows, really, that by outlawing strong narcotics, The same amount of people per capita do strong narcotics.
00:20:25.000And it's just, you know, people want to think like, oh God, if you legalized heroin, everyone would start doing it.
00:20:31.000In reality, and I've known a lot of drug heads, most people that I know have tried heroin don't like it.
00:20:38.000They do it one time, it makes them throw up, and they're like, oh god, you know what I mean?
00:20:43.000It takes like a certain kind of screwed up individual to want to go down that path, and they're going to do it regardless of whether it's against the law or not.
00:20:51.000Every drug I ever tried except for alcohol and cigarettes, which I loved, I hated it.
00:20:56.000I mean, one time I had a good-looking girl I was going out with, and she wanted to do some ecstasy, and I'd done that a few times, didn't like that.
00:21:03.000and she said, oh, well, take this little pill to make you feel good, and I was, like, vomiting and depressed, and I was like, what the hell is this?
00:21:17.000I mean, laying in a bed having, like, hallucinations of ghosts drifting across the ceiling is like some Edgar Allan Poe movie is not fun.
00:21:24.000Yeah, but at the same time, too, what's classic about that is that, you know, I think alcohol is probably one of the strongest, most mind-altering drugs as well.
00:21:36.000I'll go jump in a big keg of whiskey like the mouse in a cartoon and never to be seen again.
00:21:41.000Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, I mean, it is kind of a slap in the face when you come from a hospital watching, you know, your loved ones, and when you go into these, you know, when my mom was dying of liver failure, I'd go into this ICU unit and And there would be like a whole bunch of older people kind of in her same boat.
00:21:59.000And it was just like this weird horrible vinegary smell.
00:22:04.000That you could just smell like this is what the end of the line is like for an alcoholic.
00:22:08.000And this is really where most hardcore alcoholics are going to end up.
00:23:04.000No, I mean, it's absolutely, you know, I mean, it's really being controlled.
00:23:09.000I mean, when you, I mean, at this point right now, when I hear, you know, Bill O'Reilly, like, poo-pooing what Eastside Morales said about my film, I just looked directly at him like, well, I mean, he's supporting the pharmaceutical company.
00:23:22.000I haven't seen this yet, but I'm told that it's already up on Prison Planet and InfoWars.
00:23:48.000Basically, it's called Patriot or Pinhead.
00:23:51.000And it's, you know, tonight, Eastside Morales, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, you know, was on Bill Maher.
00:23:59.000And, you know, if you have the clip, you should play it, because the way he put it was really great, but he was talking about how we're living in an age now where the privatization of all these government functions are basically just, like, looting the country.
00:24:13.000And, you know, and our government is waging these, like, phony propaganda wars to allow these corporations to get away with this.
00:24:22.000And he put it in a really good way, and he just goes, and by the way, right now, if you go to YouTube, you can check out the film, American Drug War, where they talk about how our government's been caught shipping in a drug.
00:24:31.000And it's just, it disappoints me a little bit because I really, I do, I'm a Bill Maher fan, I'll admit it, I watch Bill Maher every week.
00:24:38.000He's an operative, just like O'Reilly.
00:24:39.000It seems like, yeah, but he seems like he'll just get that far and once you talk about Building 7 or any of those things, he just like, turns, you know?
00:25:27.000Because they all know, Bill O'Reilly did pieces back in the 80's, I've got, where he admitted JFK was killed, he said E. Howard Hunt did it, he said the government shipped in drugs, he did whole pieces showing video being loaded, cocaine at Ella Pongo, I don't know if you ever saw that, but it's the same stuff Silly talks about, but I didn't know there were newscasts.
00:26:10.000And, you know, I've got a clip of the former head of the DEA, Rob Bonner, admitting that this happened.
00:26:15.000You know, so it's like, I don't care what anybody says, you have the former head of the DEA admitting that it happened, it's like game over.
00:26:23.000You know, and yet they're gonna go, oh, conspiracy, conspiracy theory, the head of the DEA just admitted it.
00:27:18.000Try to wean yourself from any pharmaceuticals you're on.
00:27:20.000Now, if you've got You know, they're even finding out that all this cholesterol stuff is a big conspiracy.
00:27:25.000Oh no, your body actually needs cholesterol.
00:27:27.000It's the trans fats that are killing people.
00:27:29.000Yes, I mean, I've even, like, you know, I've got my doctor telling me, like, I need Lipitor, and then I find out that that's, you know, a whole other, you know what I mean?
00:28:15.000Well, yeah, I mean, and I had even had people from Showtime talking to me about doing a series out of this.
00:28:22.000And I actually had the outline, almost enough footage for an entire series, minus like a couple of like throughput, like hosting type narration segments.
00:28:30.000And, you know, the negotiations drug on, and I said, I gotta get this thing out there.
00:30:27.000Just a total thug, drunk driving, running over things, literally plowing his car into businesses, stumbling around, arresting people if their swimming pool looks like it's dirty, spying on everyone, no Bill of Rights, random checkpoints, and he just stumbles around, just bragging how powerful and great he is.
00:30:55.000I mean, I would go into a coffee shop, and you get some young kid there that you could tell doesn't agree with him, and you'd say, well, what do you think about Joe Arpaio?
00:31:03.000And they would just sit there and look at you and go, I love him.
00:31:37.000He made me, like... I had to, like, wait out in the sun for, like, several hours.
00:31:42.000Um, and he pulls up, and it wasn't a limousine, but it was kind of like a stretch car, and I know it was, it was like a big armored, like, town car.
00:31:49.000Um, and he, and he finally pulls up like a rock star, and these guys come out, and he's like, alright, I'm gonna take you through, on the tour of the thing, and, and he just turns it on, you know, and, uh, uh, you know, he's, uh, he's a character.
00:32:05.000Back at that time, he was talking about having his own reality show, where it's gonna be a reality show of him just being mean to prisoners.
00:32:12.000And what I love too is that he talks about how a lot of the prisoners there are awaiting trial.
00:32:16.000So you've got thousands of people there that haven't even been convicted yet, right?
00:32:20.000And yet then when you turn around and I go, well, do those guys get like, do they have to eat like rotten food?
00:32:42.000Kevin, I have got this Bill O'Reilly clip here.
00:32:45.000Maybe you should play the Bill Maher one first?
00:32:50.000I don't have that in front of me, but I have him.
00:32:53.000attacking Mr. Morales, who did show up at the 9-11 Neocon Agenda Symposium with a guy that made a bunch of big movies, the guy that made Enemy of the State and the rest of it.
00:33:18.000I kind of babble on this new extra hour show because I'm running everything in here and I'm busy trying to see if I've even got the audio to this feed.
00:34:13.000Tonight, starring the former boss of NYPD Blue, Ese Morales, moments away.
00:34:20.000On a pinhead front, what is going on in Hollywood?
00:34:23.000The former captain of NYPD Blue, Ese Morales, said this.
00:34:28.000And if you look at YouTube, there's a thing called America Drug War.
00:34:33.000And it shows how our presidents, from Reagan to Bush, and I don't know who else, took up bags of crack cocaine and introduced it to the world as a scourge.
00:34:43.000It wasn't as big a problem until the president brings it up, and it seems like they're promoting the very thing they're saying they're against.
00:35:07.000I mean, on that show, when Willie Nelson talked about bombs in the buildings and all the rest of it, he just said, pinhead.
00:35:16.000They don't have to refute any information, they don't have to have arguments, nothing intellectual.
00:35:21.000It's like when former Governor Jesse Ventura, he broke it of course here last week, but last night was on Hannity & Combs, Hannity just said, Rosie O'Donnell.
00:35:40.000But the good news, Kevin, sometimes I get negative and pessimistic, but you're a little more positive, which I think is probably accurate.
00:35:47.000People are starting to get it now, but what they're getting is how crazy things are.
00:35:52.000We have drug dealing, criminal government, running everything that stages terror attacks.
00:35:58.000I just think that if people We can start waking up.
00:36:02.000I mean, first of all, I think we as a people, we can't simultaneously plan for our demise and for our future.
00:36:10.000And I think if we're going to save this country, we've got to just plan for our future and let God take it from there, you know?
00:36:19.000Because these guys are winning if everybody is like all freaked out and running around.
00:36:24.000I mean, we've got to, like, we're right.
00:36:27.000You know, we've got to hold our heads high and, you know, I mean, Having Bill O'Reilly say that and call it pinhead, I mean, that's like, I mean, in my household, that was like a total high-five moment.
00:36:44.000So, you know, and I think, I think, you know, more and more people are waking up.
00:36:47.000I mean, I think, you know, even from just a year ago, it seems like a lot has really changed, even in just this last year, the landscape of everything.
00:36:58.000And I think even the timing with the release of the drug war film was good.
00:37:01.000Well, corrupt elites do this all the time, and you're right.
00:37:05.000All throughout history, it's like Marie Antoinette and the Let Them Eat Cake, as they're starving to death outside.
00:37:09.000And I know historically that's not a completely accurate, but that's the popularized story, and there are real examples of Nero fiddling while Rome burns.
00:37:18.000It's just, they're dealing the drugs, they're shipping them in, they're CPSing people's kids, they're totally corrupt, and they just went further and further, and finally they blew the towers up, and I believe that's why the drug war stuff's coming out now, and that's why people are just saying, look, this is too much now, we can't go along with this, this is too insane, and people now know it's about their survival.
00:37:38.000I mean, when it starts coming out in the San Francisco Chronicle, and the Houston Chronicle, and the Associated Press, with former congressmen giving out documents about how FEMA camps have been built for us, people are finally going, hell, I better speak out, man, these people aren't playing around!
00:37:49.000Then they find out Bush's grandfather is a Nazi, as we put in martial law, Kevin and I. I mean, they're really figuring it out.
00:37:57.000Yeah, no, and tying it into modern day with what's going on in Afghanistan, you know, and that's like another thing I've tried to tie together with
00:38:05.000With the lessons learned from Iran-Contra, and it's a little depressing when I go from, you know, the universities I talk to the kids, you know, God, you know, so many of them really are just in this world of Facebook and products and, you know, what color iPod am I going to get this week and video games, and it is a little bit depressing, but there are some kids out there that are trying to make a difference, and so I think it's
00:38:29.000One of the points I tried to make in this film was to show, like, what happened during the Iran-Contra scandal, bring Ricky Ross, Celica Stilley, some of the people that are actually there in person, and then bring it around full loop to what's going on in Afghanistan since we invaded, and also tying the loop, too, that we're supposedly poised to go to war against Iran, but, you know, who did Iran get their first missile technology from?
00:39:10.000The Rockefellers in the 20's found out about how cancer was communicable, almost all of it, viral, and they put viruses into the vaccine supply.
00:39:31.000Either on the American Drug War, the police state, or if you're in San Francisco, as I know some of our listeners are, where the communist death troops, that's what they are, they are the secret police, Death Squad is the word I'm looking for.
00:39:46.000And they are there in England and in Paris and other places.
00:40:08.000I mean, you know, I believe it's happening just by watching You know, what's been going on, and obviously the final push, you know, there's no telling what the final push is going to be in the final days of this Bush administration.
00:40:24.000And, you know, it's scary and exciting to wonder what kind of transition we're all getting ready to have from that.
00:40:31.000But, you know, it's like you've been saying for a long time with the foreign troops and using the Olympics To do that is just so classic.
00:40:42.000You know, it's just, it's just once again, it's like a bad, it's like a bad script writer.
00:40:47.000Like just, down in 9-11, everything like that.
00:40:50.000It's like, if you took like the worst Hollywood script writer, it's as if like this whole thing is being written by a total hack.
00:40:56.000Cause it's just like, it's so obvious.
00:40:58.000You could just go, okay, now they're going to do this.
00:41:00.000And it's just, you know, and then they do.
00:41:03.000Um, you know, I don't, I don't know what else to say.
00:41:07.000Well, it isn't in plain view, but they do that scientifically, not just aiming at the lowest common denominator, but to dumb down the debate, really making us all dumber.
00:41:17.000I mean, if you grow up around real debate and dynamic discussions and everything, it increases your intelligence, your critical thinking.
00:41:22.000But even if you're born genetically smart, and then nature, you know, smart, you get good nutrition, taken care of, learned, still being around a bunch of morons dumbs you down.
00:41:31.000Yeah, and once again, just like that movie Idiocracy, you know, which I feel... Anybody who can say a straight line or sentence, they call a fag.
00:41:40.000It's like, hey, I have rights to the judge.
00:41:43.000Yeah, no, I mean, it's exactly... I mean, that movie hit it on the head and it's just so weird how that movie just kind of came and went without, you know.
00:41:50.000They just stayed off the radar screen.
00:41:53.000Well, you've got a guy like Mike Judge, who by the way is a fan of the show, and he won't come on for some reason, he's too scared to, but that's okay, lives here in Austin and out in LA with you, Kevin, and he has had all these big hit movies, Creator of Beavis and Butthead, King of the Hill, and they just said, we've got a control contract, we're not even putting it in theaters.
00:42:14.000And I heard they didn't even make a trailer for it, you know?
00:42:18.000And yeah, you could watch it and it's really stupid, but there's like a really, I mean, it's a really good sobering lesson that that movie shows in a comical way.
00:42:48.000They say, oh, we've got 18% of the kids on psychotropics, this was three years ago, and their own memos came out, and they said, we're going to force half the kids on this in the next phase.
00:42:56.000Half the kids on Prozac and other drugs, by riding the criteria with school psychologists that enforce it on you.
00:43:04.000Half the kids on the drugs, and then it causes more mass shootings, and there's more drugs.
00:43:09.000I mean, they really, it's so diabolical.
00:43:12.000Yeah, I mean, I don't have kids, but if I did, I'd certainly You know, over my dead body, would let them give him drugs like that.
00:43:21.000You know, especially seeing what it did to my brother.
00:43:23.000I mean, I know he did need some drugs to control schizophrenia, but I without a doubt know that it's the pharmaceutical drugs that killed him.
00:44:25.000Hey, I would like to agree with your guest.
00:44:29.000I was actually going to call and mention a couple things that he just brought up already.
00:44:32.000let's talk to brandon in new york go ahead brandon uh hey uh i would like to uh agree with your guest like uh i was actually going to call and mention a couple things that he just brought up already uh one was i was actually looking in the post and in the opinion page they had a whole article covering about how all all these drugs they're getting in are counterfeit and have additives that have been hurting people as of lately
00:45:00.000But they're only doing that because that's actually not true so they can sell you at ten times the price it is anywhere else.
00:45:05.000We are the country of morons who pay literally on average ten times what everybody else does.
00:45:44.000Such a money-making movie that you figure, you know, they would have been advertising it left and right.
00:45:50.000No, but that's the elite's plan, so they don't want you to know.
00:45:52.000Yeah, I'd say they buried that sucker.
00:45:55.000Although, listen, they went and arrested Stella Costello after this movie came out.
00:45:59.000Yeah, I mean, you gotta stay... Right now in Hollywood, there's like, maybe if you're gonna come out with some hardcore stuff like this, it's kinda like you have to navigate your way to kinda stay off certain radar screens.
00:46:32.000So because little baby mammals jump around a bunch, we drug them.
00:46:36.000When your puppy jumps around and runs around in your house, do you take them to the vet and say, my puppy's chewing on things and has a lot of energy?
00:46:50.000I mean, I mean, they're puppies if they jump around.
00:46:52.000Well, yeah, I mean, basically what you need to do is like what I would do with kids, too, is that you need to just give them enough exercise to where they just can't, you know, exactly, you know.
00:47:02.000They're watching television all day, picking their noses, eating Hot Pockets, and drinking Capri Sun, or drinking Coca-Cola, and so then they're all weird and fidgety.
00:47:11.000If they were running around climbing trees for eight hours a day like I did, there wouldn't be any acting up, because they're not in the house!
00:47:16.000Yeah, I mean, I wasn't allowed to watch but a couple hours of TV when I was younger.
00:47:19.000You know, much less, like, sit around and play video games.
00:47:25.000I had brought him to his neurologist, right?
00:47:28.000And as I'm driving him there, you know, it's my younger brother.
00:48:07.000I've got to jump because we've got like 10 of them for Kevin.
00:48:09.000But the larger issue here is this is how this all started.
00:48:13.000Even 100 years ago, even 80 years ago, it was a class thing to be able to get a doctor to come out to see you.
00:48:19.000They were expensive, they were somewhat rare, medicine was really worshipped, and it was a big deal to have the doctor come out to your farm or ranch.
00:48:26.000And so people love the medical system, and they see it as a loving thing to do.
00:48:33.000And Kevin, you want to comment on that?
00:48:36.000Yeah, I mean, and now it's It's completely been blown out the other way.
00:48:41.000Now the healthcare system has made it so you're lucky if you can see like a really crummy doctor and the doctors will just prescribe you anything.
00:48:48.000You know, it just seems like when you go to the doctor now...
00:48:51.000They don't even like really test you or do anything.
00:48:53.000They'll just like write you a bunch of giant prescriptions.
00:48:56.000And that's because they're not going to treat the hernia or the compacted disc or the impaction or the cyst in your uterus.
00:49:04.000They're just going to put you on Prozac.
00:49:05.000And that started what almost 18 years ago, 17 years ago with the Gulf War.
00:49:09.000The problem is that, you know, the second that law enforcement and prisons became profitable, the second that, you know, like the whole health industry became just this total profit driven monster.
00:49:37.000People that get on it, like, stop going to the doctor.
00:49:41.000And there's just a million reasons why they don't want people to use medical marijuana, because they all lead to one thing, and that is profit.
00:50:21.000And I've had friends, I've had a very close friend of mine die from heroin usage.
00:50:28.000And while I was being arraigned, I was in with several others that had heroin related cases, either robbery or something to do with heroin.
00:50:38.000And I believe they probably all started out using the OxyContin and then moved on to the Yeah, let me comment, let me comment on that, since you bring that up, and I appreciate your call.
00:50:53.000Well, Kevin, you've had your own experiences.
00:50:55.000Yeah, with Oxycontin, yeah, I mean, I myself became addicted to Oxycontin, and you know, it reminds me, makes me realize an interesting point.
00:51:05.000Isn't it interesting that you don't really hear stories about the government shipping in giant amounts of marijuana?
00:51:11.000Because, you know, it doesn't fit their whole agenda.
00:51:15.000You know, I mean, it's another kind of interesting angle on this whole thing.
00:51:18.000Well, that's what happens is you go to the doctor for a hurt back and they give you something that's synthetic heroin.
00:51:24.000And then Rush Limbaugh, I remember hearing him hundreds of times back when they would point out that, crack, a black guy would get 25 years, but then a lawyer caught with three 8-balls wouldn't get a month.
00:51:37.000And Limbaugh would defend that, and then when he was caught, With a hundred plus pills a day, I mean we're talking a decade in prison, doctor shopping, he doesn't get in trouble and he's still for the drug war!
00:51:48.000I mean they're just hypocritical bastards!
00:52:01.000Also tell what he says about Schwarzenegger.
00:52:03.000People need to get the film to see this at Infowars.com.
00:52:08.000Tommy was arrested, not for marijuana charges, but he was arrested because his son was using his face and his name to sell these expensive handmade glass pipes on the internet.
00:52:54.000So they had the person on the phone to make sure that the other people in the family with the Chong's or the company didn't do the right thing and not sell to the county, to the city.
00:53:03.000I mean, again... Yeah, because the Chong's all knew that they weren't supposed to sell to that county and they'd even told their employees that they weren't supposed to do it, yet it happened anyway.
00:53:12.000And the guy that did it, like, disappeared.
00:53:16.000I mean I saw this about four years ago in the In the Seattle papers, it was in several of them, and the major papers, the Seattle Times and others reported that in the nice area of Seattle, the majority of the bars are now owned by police.
00:53:31.000And they said the police go in the bathroom and they sell drugs to each other.
00:53:35.000It's not even an informant in the bathroom selling to somebody.
00:53:38.000They sell to each other and then they take it and then they don't even bother now to give the bar to another cop.
00:53:46.000I mean, it's just, well it's like Dallas where they pull over random cars and throw bags of chalk in the back and take their car and home.
00:53:52.000I mean, it is... What sucks is that, you know, your average cop doesn't make that much money, your average guy in the military doesn't make that much money, so it's real easy for them to be controlled by these kind of things.
00:54:09.000And at the same time, it's hard for guys like us to be in a position to make films and do all that, because it takes money.
00:54:18.000And the government has also done a good job at convincing most people that if you're going to spend your life protesting, and if you're going to be an activist, then you're probably going to be broke and live some terrible, horrible little lifestyle.
00:54:31.000And so the whole system just lends itself To, you know what, if you want to have a nice car, a nice boat, a nice house, all those things, well, you know, you're going to have to, like, screw over your fellow man.
00:54:45.000And people buy into it, and they do it.
00:54:47.000Well, and they also call it being winners.
00:54:51.000I mean, it's a huge joke to them, and I just can't believe how many lives that they ruin doing all of this.
00:54:59.000You know, real quick, back to the OxyContin thing, you know, I had gone through many years of back problems, and I had a doctor that Actually, he finally gave me this, uh, like an epidural in my lower back and fixed my problem.
00:55:11.000And when I told my doctor, I was like, wow, my back is better, but you know what?
00:55:15.000I need some help getting off of these pain pills.
00:55:17.000He just kept writing me the prescriptions.
00:55:19.000Even though I was like going, I need help.
00:55:22.000You know, he was like, ah, you need to just keep taking the OxyContin.
00:55:56.000Let's go ahead and talk to Harvey in Florida.
00:55:59.000You're on the air with the Maker of American Drug War, available right now on DVD, and it's the only place you get the three-plus hours of extras on the DVD, so that's five hours.
00:57:06.000What did they say when you heard Harvey?
00:57:09.000Well, it was a guy replacing Paul Harvey, sometimes he has stand-ins, and he just said it very nonchalantly, oh yeah, and it'll be international troops protecting the torch.
00:57:20.000I think if you go to ABC7 from San Francisco, and I don't want to pull people away from your broadcast, but later on, I think they're showing actual live streaming footage of the protest.
00:57:32.000Hey Kevin, will you email that link to Aaron at InfoWars.com?
00:57:37.000You're at your computer right now, aren't you?
00:58:27.000You beat these people by being healthy, by being in shape, by living well.
00:58:31.000And of course, they're going to make everything else illegal, too.
00:58:33.000That's what tyranny does, to catch good people on their net.
00:58:35.000But just live better than them, know their scum, educate everybody how they're terrorists and how they're the enemy, and just know that our people are everywhere, our numbers are growing, and that we are... I mean, when we take this country back, I want them to have due process, I want them to have trials, I want to have public trials, and we're going to turn loose all these innocent people out of prison, and all these people that were non-violent, and all these people that dealt drugs and stole people's children, I'm gonna call for the death penalty.
00:59:04.000I mean, I think, you know, back to the drug war and the whole possession thing, and, you know, who should go to jail, you know, committing a crime is what should send you to jail, and possessing drugs isn't a crime.
00:59:15.000Yeah, victim crimes are what you get the book thrown at you for, but now they don't do that.
00:59:52.000And that's why we've had, what, almost 20 states vote to decriminalize, and the feds say no!
00:59:57.000Yeah, I mean, they just go like, it's so ridiculous on world news, they'll be like, well, you know, 80% of all Americans want to legalize, but nope, you know, Superior Court, not yet.
01:00:06.000Eighty percent don't want to be in Iraq, but so what?
01:00:09.000Ninety percent don't want the borders open, but no.
01:00:12.000Eighty-four percent want a new investigation and say 9-11 was an inside job.
01:00:20.000I don't know if you saw those hearings yesterday with Atreus, and this is something I don't often get to get through on the line, so it's very important that you know this.
01:00:29.000There was one senator that had a speech all prepared, and he was talking about how he was there recently over in Iraq, one of the senators, and he went around the prison system over there.
01:00:42.000Do we have detainees by the tens of thousands?
01:00:50.000And he went around and the General showed him around and it's really doing wonderful over there, Alex.
01:00:55.000The people in detention are having very good food, they're getting training, they're getting job training, and a lot of them, according to this senator, this wasn't set up or anything, a lot of the people over there are having such a good time when they want to release them, they don't want to leave, they want to stay and do their studies.
01:01:14.000So that's our media telling us, and our government saying, oh, and the gulags, they've been re-educated, they love it.
01:01:45.000It's like 1984 where they're going, we made 45 million pairs of shoes, choco rations are up, there's more tobacco, there's more housing, and meanwhile Winston's going, this is absolute crap.
01:01:55.000I haven't gotten any cigarettes in months.
01:01:58.000Yeah, they're having such a good time, they don't want to leave when their time is up, Alex.
01:02:01.000So it must be really pretty wonderful.
01:02:26.000And I think, I think one of the things, if we have to focus on this thing incrementally, needs to start with marijuana and needs to start with medical marijuana.
01:02:34.000And then we need to start by Releasing, or definitely start by releasing any non-violent marijuana person who's serving time.
01:02:42.000And we need to start with stronger laws.
01:02:44.000When a cop gets caught murdering somebody or dealing drugs, they slap him on the wrist.
01:02:52.000We need the strongest laws for government officials and cops.
01:02:56.000Yeah, absolutely, when you portray the public trust.
01:02:59.000You know, because that's the whole point of my film is, you know, and I open with the opening line of the film is that, you know, now some of the people that I've elected to protect me are the ones that I fear the most.
01:03:08.000And I think that's how a lot of people feel these days.
01:03:10.000Well, maybe Ron Paul, Alex, will make you the drug czar when he gets in.
01:03:14.000Yeah, well, I mean, I'll be total decriminalization.
01:04:16.000It deals with Big time stars and how, uh, there's a, you know, second internet that monitors everything and there's guns aimed at our borders inwards.
01:04:26.000Justin Timberlake point kills people on the beach in Venice.
01:04:33.000Okay, and also, just real quick, because you guys are talking about the corruption.
01:04:35.000$30,000 just came out of my police station by some cop.
01:04:40.000Now there's going to be two, like, you know, trials and counter-sue.
01:04:43.000It's going to cost the taxpayers millions just because they keep a bunch of drug money in the police station for poor cops to grab.
01:04:52.000Look, I grew up in Rockwall, where I would be at people's houses, and I wasn't into drugs, but this was the eighties, everybody was into it, and the local cop would pull in and bring in cocaine and marijuana, I mean duffel bags of it, and then I'd go to school five years, I mean this was when I was like eleven, twelve, playing baseball in the neighborhood, I've told the story before, and then I would go with my friend who was a couple years old, and he'd have like an eighteen-year-old brother, and I'd be over there watching TV, And by the time I was like 12, I'd be doing beer bongs.
01:05:21.000There was plenty of alcohol involved in that too.
01:05:23.000My parents had no idea I was down the street beer bonging, sucking down whole beers out of funnels.
01:05:28.000And then the cops would show up with the cocaine and marijuana, and then the older brother would go off and sell it to the bimbo wives of the rich golfers.
01:05:39.000I grew up in a nice neighborhood where our four bedroom house was the small house.
01:05:45.000Uh, and, you know, there were 20 bedroom houses and stuff, so I was in and around all of it, and the cops just delivered the drugs.
01:05:50.000It was all part of... And then, a few years later, I was in school, and they had drug dogs and pledges not to use drugs, and they were showing us the drugs, which I knew was really an advertisement.
01:05:59.000And then, cops... I remember walking up to the cops going, hey man, I've seen you deal drugs.
01:06:05.000And then they said, we're gonna kill you.
01:06:14.000You know, I saw you three years ago deliver cocaine.
01:06:17.000Yeah, they photographed my school parking lot and meanwhile I see them meeting up with Lamborghinis at three o'clock in the morning because I drive a cab.
01:06:24.000So it's like, what's really going on if you guys have to have secret meetings with Lamborghinis?
01:06:30.000Let me tell you, 90% of narcotics police deal drugs.
01:06:34.000I mean, they had three purges in New York where they fired 75% of them each time.
01:07:22.000I was talking the other day to a high school kid about how the government flies in drugs, and he goes, Oh, I saw that movie Drug War and then they spent like 45 minutes on it talking about it.
01:07:34.000I also got a prescription for Marinol from my doctor.
01:07:39.000So I don't fail my drug test and lose my job.
01:07:42.000I also want to say that THC is a psychoactive substance.
01:08:38.000The admitted on the insert for Ritalin and the scores of other names it goes under the same molecule, is heart palpitations, heart expansion, retardation of growth, brain shrinkage in size, brain lesions.
01:09:26.000I talk about how crystal meth is the modern-day moonshine.
01:09:30.000You know, during the alcohol prohibition, people would start making up whatever they could or doing whatever they could.
01:09:35.000Look, humans have always manipulated their consciousness, and the social engineers know that, so they just made it illegal and they regulate it.
01:09:43.000So they sell us the legal drugs, they also ship in the main conduits of the illegal, and then they run the local police operations as a double tax.
01:09:51.000It's not enough they make the money selling it to us, they've also got to put us in their damn prisons.
01:10:02.000Patrick's Day, I was, I was set up by the police and Homeland Security and charged with aggravated assault.
01:10:08.000They gave me DUI because they said I refused my blood test.
01:10:11.000And then when I went to take it to trial, they basically threatened my lawyer, forced me to take a plea deal, and I had to serve three months in jail for something I didn't even do.
01:10:21.000Everybody who calls in with this, or a lot of people I hear on other shows, they go, the government's dumb, I'm innocent, or the government's just screwing up, or, you know, I can't believe I was innocent.
01:10:58.000I mean, you know, to me, your average DEA agent reminds me of, like, the guy in high school that used to, like, give me black and blue arms.
01:12:00.000I think it's because it keeps breaking, is what I keep thinking.
01:12:02.000Because up here in the hills, the trees keep hitting it.
01:12:05.000It's like you can hear it making weird noises sometimes, and then they'll come and they'll do something to it.
01:12:11.000Well, Kevin, all I can tell you is, you know this, I know you're clean as a whistle, I would have one fake security system they're going to find, and another hidden one, and having that hidden security system on a DVR, even on its own backup battery, if power goes off, because they're smarter to flip the power off, having that backup DVR may save you.
01:12:58.000How did so many evil people get in control, and how are there so many dumb schmucks who are just mindlessly thinking the government's good and they love them?
01:14:14.000But, you know, I mean, it's just revolutions come in cycles and wars are always, you know, weird, complicated things that you can't figure out.
01:14:21.000I mean, you know, I'm sure someday when they write the history books on how all this goes down, you know, people will be going, oh, it was so obvious what they were doing.
01:14:30.000Yeah, let's go ahead and take a call from Bill and Denver.
01:14:39.000Hey, yeah, Alex and Kevin, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
01:14:43.000And Alex, I'd like to thank you very much for being the catalyst, opening my eyes and having me look at things a little bit more closely.
01:14:51.000And Kevin, I have to apologize to you.
01:14:53.000I have not seen your film yet, and I'm going to remind you that today, And I'm a truck driver, so hopefully it'll be waiting for me when I do my home time.
01:15:01.000But to the guy that used to chew Trident gum, I mean, you know, what is a Trident?
01:15:08.000It's a pitchfork, and who usually carries one of those?
01:15:25.000I'd like to say two quick things, and then I'll let you go and listen to you off air.
01:15:29.000You are off the phone here, but one thing, I'd love to know what Bill Hicks, I'm a huge Bill Hicks fan, I came kind of late to the party of that, but I'd like to know, I'd love to know what his thoughts on 9-11 would be, and what some of the things he would have to say.
01:15:46.000And also, this is kind of off-topic, more to the 9-11 thing.
01:15:52.000Uh, when we were talking to Daniel Sanjata today, I had to disagree with something that he said.
01:15:59.000He said that it was kind of easy for him to come out because he didn't have a whole lot to lose because he doesn't have millions of dollars and this sort of thing.
01:16:15.000That for somebody who's already big and established, they have less to lose than somebody who's not struggling but just now hitting the big time.
01:16:39.000I wanted to throw out a dot for people to maybe connect to, and it's about the drug COT that they grow in Somalia, and I guess in Yemen.
01:16:51.000Back in 93, 94, I was a rave promoter and a DJ, and I was approached, along with a bunch of other people, to sell this drug called Nexus, which was made from cot.
01:17:57.000It was eightfold last year and the year before that, sixfold, then fourfold, twofold.
01:18:01.000But in just six years, it is now tenfold.
01:18:05.000It is double the previous record in the mid-eighties.
01:18:09.000There is opium pouring into Europe, pouring into here, and the troops have been on the news and they've admitted they just go guard opium fields.
01:18:17.000I mean, our troops guard the opium so your daughter can use it.
01:18:20.000And in my film, I take you down to Skid Row, where I go down there one day, and you're literally standing on the street, and I look down, and there's literally thousands of little heroin balloons, like, just as far as, like, Confetti after Mardi Gras.
01:18:36.000I mean, just, like, thousands of heroin balloons, and they clean the streets every couple days with those big street cleaners.
01:18:42.000And that was like some of the footage that the LAPD told me, well you can't show that because it's not like that anymore.
01:18:49.000Oh, that's right, you also have them calling you up telling you what you can and can't do with the camera.
01:18:54.000Yeah, and the LAPD basically said I'm going to regret it if I use some of the footage.
01:19:00.000But you did use the footage, didn't you?
01:20:11.000You know, maybe I can get you back on tomorrow when Sully's on.
01:20:14.000I need to check what time Sully Stillo's on the show tomorrow.
01:20:17.000I found out a few weeks ago he'd been arrested and played phone tag with him, but we finally got him today and arrested for some trumped-up gun charge when he was a former cop DEA.
01:20:27.000And then they said, hey, saw you on TV, liked the show, and they were arresting him.
01:20:32.000Uh, you know, other than, you know, he's going to have to have a public defender and he's, you know, he's pretty worried about the situation.
01:20:41.000Um, you know, and he's, he's just like one of these gun show guys, like there's a million guys, so he's definitely being singled out.
01:20:48.000Yeah, to be clear, he goes and sells his books and sells a few guns at the gun show.
01:21:59.000Well, Kevin, AmericanDrugWar.com, thank you for spending time with us, and I'm going to have Trey call you and get you to pop in with Sully.
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