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00:00:00.000We are finishing up with We Are Change Ireland, a peaceful group who's confronted members of Parliament, Bill Clinton, many others, about how they're selling out their sovereignty and about 9-11 being an inside job.
00:00:14.000And I learned today that Last week it was in MSNBC, AP, BBC, headlines about how this wonderful sweet person who did nothing wrong was viciously attacked for no reason by a group of devilish hoodlums.
00:00:34.000You can go to, if you're a PrisonPlanet.tv member, you can see this headline right now on the document cam, Anti-EU Gang Assaults Irish Member of Parliament, Member of European Parliament, and it says they attacked him, they chased him down, they stole his bag, they tackled him.
00:00:55.000And I didn't even know there was a video of this out, but I predicted In the office, and in someone on air, though I didn't want to say it on air, I just said, I bet it's the other way around, that that's exactly what happened.
00:01:40.000So if people kind of, like, pick that up, even if you're American or if you're in Europe or whatever, just watch that documentary and float the forms and tell everybody about it.
00:01:50.000And not only that, Alex, if this treaty is ratified, It will create a new European Union with new powers.
00:01:58.000And not only that, the European Court of Justice can say what our rights are.
00:02:05.000And I guess they can make, you know, they can assault you and then say that you've done it.
00:02:11.000Well, Alex said in Article 52 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, which will be brought in every vote, yes, Article 52 says that it can be limited.
00:02:21.000Our rights can be limited under a certain vague situation.
00:02:55.000We're going to put links up in the story, but people need to support you, you're under enemy attack, you have been chased down, assaulted, your bag stolen, and then all of it flipped around to, this poor man did nothing and these youths all beat him to a pulp and hurt him and cut him and stole the bag and the police did nothing!
00:03:13.000And then you call up Rupert Murdoch's major paper, they call you and you go, okay, here's the police, we call the police, here's the video, and they're like, hmm, and then they go and they write an article saying the opposite.
00:03:24.000I think you've got, seriously, you need to get lawyers, you need to start proceedings.
00:03:43.000Yeah, well BBC, I mean I'm showing people the headline right now.
00:03:45.000Anti-EU gang assaults Irish Member of Parliament.
00:03:50.000It says Irish former minister was knocked to the ground after a public meeting in Dublin on Monday night according to Labour Party.
00:03:58.000Later leader Said that the MEP was confronted by a group of men who screamed abuse at him and knocked him over and pinned him down.
00:04:07.000Police confirmed that the attack which left Mr. Rosa bruised and shaken.
00:04:12.000The Irish Republic is the only EU member state to have a public vote.
00:04:16.000Oh, can't allow the other slaves to vote on the Libsyn Treaty on June 12.
00:04:22.000Labour is campaigning for a yes vote on the referendum and has called for a calm and rational debate about the treaty.
00:04:29.000EU leaders signed the document in Lisbon last year with the aim of making EU institutions more efficient, more efficient getting the rabble out of the way, now that the bloc has 27 member states.
00:04:43.000In his statement, Mr Guillemot said a minority of people had tried to disrupt the meeting using ugly and intimidating tactics!
00:04:51.000And a shouting abuse through a loud hailer.
00:04:55.000I was greatly shocked by what happened to him.
00:04:58.000He and a democratically elected representative must be free to walk the streets without threat of physical abuse.
00:05:06.000He must be free to walk around and chase people down, growling and ripping bags off of them while foaming at the mouth.
00:05:14.000Police took statements from the witnesses, but made no arrest.
00:05:18.000Mr. De La Rosa is a well-known figure in the Irish Republic, having served as a cabinet minister in the 1990s and as a member of parliament since 1999.
00:05:32.000Oh yeah, I had it on camera as well, when Mr. The Ruffer came over, the first thing he said to the police was, they filmed me without my permission.
00:05:41.000That's the first thing he said, of the reason why it happened.
00:05:44.000Well, he's a public figure, he's a public figure, he's not in a private place, he has no reasonable expectation of privacy.
00:05:54.000That's what they do when they cram cameras all over our cities watching us!
00:06:14.000I remember bullies that would come up and start fights with me and then when they were getting put on the ambulance, they'd be trying to fill out reports that I assaulted them.
00:06:54.000But in the paper, one of the party TDs, they're basically just members of Irish Parliament, said that he had blood on his hands as if to make it worse than what it was.
00:07:16.000They should have knelt down to a Lord and allowed him to stomp them in the heads so we could arrest them for assaulting him.
00:07:23.000Yeah, but, you know, it's just basically over here all the forms are full of that we attacked and we were the perpetrators and we're scum and we're... Oh my God, it's deadly!
00:07:35.000It's a deadly, vicious attack on a member of the Parliament!
00:08:02.000And if you want to Google search End of Nations Documentary, you will find out that we kind of explain things much better.
00:08:10.000And the MEPs, the actually good representatives that represent the people, they come out and they detail the personal stories of the European Union and the corruption that's inside it.
00:08:51.000take care about now now tell what is some right now i have memo changes headline is a good story but that to to to to member of parliament artist refresh he did do it okay he did change that line good m_e_p_ assaults activist media reports opposite in giant smear attempt about that Red-handed!
00:09:15.000This is a key weapon against the Times of London.
00:10:12.000I know we've got callers who've been holding, I know they're holding on both networks, on my board, and they're holding on the network board, and we're going to take your calls.
00:10:19.000I will tell you, we've got somebody coming on about Raeed Hamad, who I think was murdered.
00:10:24.000We'll see if people around him are scared, what they're willing to say.
00:10:40.000I mean, I'm sorry to use that word, you know, because usually I refrain from that kind of language.
00:10:45.000But gosh, I have to use pretty strong language because, you know, you've trailblazed on many of these issues and your energy is what's carrying this fight forward.
00:11:13.000George, I'm probably going to have you sit in in the near future.
00:11:15.000I've got Burmess later this week sitting in, because I am working on some projects.
00:11:19.000I'm going to be out of town some, and you're a great talk show host in your own right with a weekend show here on the network.
00:11:25.000But before I go any further, I know you don't like talking about yourself, George, but you've done a lot of cool stuff, fighting the commies in Germany, and then you were in listening stations with the NSA in Libya.
00:11:38.000Interesting background, and then your research is in a lot of the same areas and the great guests you get on, like the Tibetan folks.
00:11:44.000You just have a great show, and so I'm honored to have you as a friend.
00:11:47.000It's great to have you here in Austin, you and Bob Dacey and Tex Mars and so many other great folks that live in Central Texas, like Robert Galen Ross.
00:11:55.000But I want to really introduce you to my audience, who may not know who you are and your website.
00:11:59.000Spend a few minutes talking about yourself, then we're going to get into some of the news items and take some phone calls.
00:12:04.000Yes, on Genesis Communication Network, we have a show called The Secret Truth at thesecrettruth.com, along with co-host Charlotte Littlefield-Brown.
00:12:13.000And as far as my background goes, I'm a lifetime citizen of Austin, was in the ASA, Army Security Agency, in Europe for three years, spent my last year in Berlin, West Berlin, and saw a lot of very ugly things happen there.
00:12:26.000I was 22 years old when I got out of the ASA, so I was pretty well educated in a certain narrow area of communication security and intelligence.
00:12:35.000And we saw a lot of tyranny there, and this is probably what's motivated me to continue this fight and to try to reveal the truth about this big mind war system that we're all susceptible to.
00:12:50.000You know my parents just got back from southern Germany visiting some family that lives over there in the military and they brought me that famous photo I'd seen before right when they'd put up the barbed wire a few months after and a German family got through but the toddler got caught in the barbed wire and the East German soldier opens the barbed wire and picks him up and lets him through.
00:13:45.000The front of these buildings on one side of the street was the actual wall, which they tore down later to put in a stronger, more impenetrable type of structure, which they designed later, many years later.
00:13:57.000But at that time it was a very, very hideous looking wall.
00:14:00.000It was the buildings that had been cemented up across the street.
00:14:03.000And we would go downtown at the Kudom, the Kapersendom in West Berlin, for drinking and going out on the night, the nightclubs and so forth.
00:14:14.000And you could hear at night machine gun fire from that close.
00:14:18.000It was pretty close to the wall the downtown area was.
00:14:20.000You could hear machine gun fire and see trip flares go off at night.
00:14:39.000I think there were a couple of Collins brothers that wrote a book back a few years ago, and I think you've interviewed them, and they call it a scientific dictatorship, and they have really done this in very depth, and their expertise about how to control people through ideas and systems of thought is hideous.
00:14:57.000And now in Canada, if they catch you without a fare, the police confirm a day that the punishment is being tasered for the poor people that don't have money.
00:15:05.000It's like seven bucks to use the subway.
00:15:08.000When you're caught sneaking on it without paying, your punishment now is to be tasered.
00:15:13.000I mean, see how they're just announcing more and more?
00:15:15.000When I was in London in 2006, it was like a maze, running through a maze through the underground and so forth, and they had everything thought out where you would get clipped going in and get clipped coming out.
00:15:26.000They had it all down to money, and they were milking everyone for as much as they could in that city, much less the country.
00:15:33.000They had it scientifically set up over there.
00:15:35.000And what I saw that really impressed me was sitting there with a group of ladies at Buckingham Palace there, getting ready for the tour, is that the riches that they were putting on display so excited the women, especially the women because of all those gowns and all those different awards given to the Queen, that it just, you know, what it does is appeals to the worst things in us.
00:16:02.000I want to go camp up on the side of a mountain and see the stars.
00:16:05.000We can only have one God before us, or we can only worship one thing, either God or mammon, and we've gotten into a big, gigantic, worldwide mammon worship system of wealth.
00:16:21.000Yeah, you know, Wall Street a number of years ago came out with an investment kit for children.
00:16:28.000So they want to recruit people into that usury money making system from a young age, 10 or 12 years old, I think, that this particular kit was designed for.
00:16:37.000So get them into the investment deal, collect interest, get that usury going and so forth.
00:16:42.000And so it's a mind system that's actually been built around a money system of usury taking and paying.
00:17:12.000Anyone that was a drug user was a really scum, just a low-life, and that's the way we looked at them.
00:17:19.000Coming into the beginnings of the Vietnam War and so forth, there was a liberalization, you know... Which we now know is the CIA, which they package as counterculture.
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00:21:29.000George Butler, what do you want to get into first in the time we've got here?
00:21:33.000Well, when you were talking about the New World Order and all that, a name seemed to pop up in my head, and that name would be Kurt Lewin, L-E-W-I-N.
00:21:45.000And what he was, he was a German-born psychologist and sociologist that founded an idea of a force-field theory.
00:21:52.000And he actually was pioneering in this in the mid-1940s, 1947 actually is when he died.
00:21:59.000But he came through England and did some work with the Tavistock Institute and then came over to America.
00:22:06.000He got into group dynamics and things like that, but also this field theory is all important for us to begin to try to understand what we're caught up in.
00:22:14.000We're surrounded by electromagnetic radiation, and streams of light, you could say, are ideas, and they become implanted in us.
00:22:25.000It's the group consciousness, and they've done tests where they'll have monkeys ten miles away from another group of monkeys, and when they teach the other monkeys how to do something, suddenly the others learn.
00:22:35.000Yes, that's called quantum entanglement, in fact.
00:22:37.000That's an idea or a dynamic where you have instantaneous communication between those two.
00:23:23.000The authoritarian personality type, the Frankfurt School, was a school founded by Neo-Marxists in Frankfurt, Germany in the 30s.
00:23:32.000And there were some of the greatest minds at the time.
00:23:36.000And in their studies and so forth, one of the ideas they came up with was what they called the authoritarian personality type.
00:23:42.000And they used this, and from that was parlayed what they call the F-factor.
00:23:47.000And the F-factor had to do with fascism.
00:23:49.000And that's what makes it interesting in a way, because these people are backed, in a way, by the very fascists that are running the world themselves.
00:23:59.000It's black uniforms, secret arrests, FEMA camps.
00:24:02.000They only give us a false choice of fascism or communism.
00:24:05.000Yes, what came out of this, the group that came out of this was a very libertine, very liberal type of thinking that penetrated our universities with some very libertine thoughts, and in fact it's sexual, a liberation of sexuality and so forth was something that really permeated our universities.
00:24:23.000But they said only to do that, to pacify the public, so they're busy playing and partying.
00:24:27.000We have documents in the 60s in the U.S.
00:24:29.000saying, we're going to have a drug culture from 61, and then they drove around with the government buses with the LSD.
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00:27:19.000We have someone who worked with the individual who died mysteriously last week, Rayad.
00:27:31.000Hamad, and it turns out George Butler, an Austinite since birth, even though some of the teachers at the school where he was a teacher, he was bound, gagged, clearly drowned, the evidence clearly murdered, but the police are saying that, oh no, they said it's quite, I have their press release, it's very normal to have someone bound when they kill themselves.
00:27:50.000So, we're going to be talking to that gentleman coming up in about 30 minutes.
00:27:52.000We've got a guest who works with him coming on the show.
00:27:57.000George Butler, though, we were getting into just one of their mind control programs and what they really believe, going back almost 100 years ago.
00:28:08.000Well, we were talking about the Frankfurt School there and the authoritarian personality type, but it is a mind-washed system that conveys into us certain ideas, and then those ideas are manipulated and changed and reformed and massaged within our minds.
00:28:26.000We take up this collection of ideas, which I call streams of light, and that forms our worldview.
00:28:32.000Having a worldview is a way to control us.
00:28:36.000And so we actually become obsessed with extreme worldviews in some cases, and then we fight each other from the left and the right.
00:29:04.000The only way you can try to do it is try to stand outside your mind and look back at your thoughts as they're They're flowing through your mind on a real-time basis.
00:29:12.000You've got to get outside the box and analyze.
00:29:14.000Yes, yes, and objectively, and that's hard to do.
00:29:17.000So another self, and I always call it the real self, has to try to nurture itself back to health.
00:29:24.000See, that's an interesting way you describe it.
00:29:26.000I instinctively had this thought when I was three years old.
00:29:29.000I'm on the back porch playing, it's a sunny day, the sprinklers spraying, it's like a rainbow, it's beautiful.
00:29:34.000And I have this understanding that the world was not me, that I was on an island, no man is an island, and that I had had imaginary games and imaginary friends and played make-believe, and I realized that make-believe wasn't real at that time, and that there was a whole world outside of me, and that I was a tiny island.
00:29:50.000I think most people don't consciously think about death, because they seem to see the stream of human society, civilization, and almost think like that is theirs.
00:30:00.000Just to extrapolate these ideas that I have, realizing that literally the world is what is outside of me, not what is in me.
00:30:08.000It is the opposite of what the New Agers teach and everybody else.
00:30:12.000And so then you are truly alive when you do realize that there's the rest of the world and that you are interconnected to it.
00:30:18.000But most adults I see all have their own little costumes, whatever clique they're a part of, whatever group they're a part of, and they all play to that.
00:30:25.000And they're all in little imaginary worlds about what position they're in.
00:30:29.000That's why we're into uniforms, signets, class, all of these things.
00:30:35.000Yeah, there was a study that came out of the Stanford Research Institute in the 70s, early 70s, and it was entitled Changing Images of Man.
00:30:44.000They went back over 250,000 years to the present and started doing an assessment of the images of man during those eras.
00:30:53.000And what they're trying to do in today's world is they're trying to take us back to a very subjective view, just exactly what you said a few moments ago.
00:31:01.000And in that subjective view they can control that through the outside media.
00:31:05.000But you will give up an objective view of the outside world and take on these inner notions, but without proof.
00:31:12.000And that's why they have these games that hundreds of millions play, where it's imaginary worlds.
00:31:26.000We're going to be right back with George Butler, continue discussing this breakdown, a lot of it.
00:31:30.000And then we're going to interview a gentleman who knows a Palestinian man who we believe was murdered right here in Austin, Texas and thrown in the river.
00:31:38.000But part of their brainwashing, they tell us it's a lake.
00:31:41.000He was thrown in the Colorado River, now known as the Lady Bird Imperium.
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00:35:30.000This is just kind of like when they killed Gary Webb, shot him twice in the head.
00:35:35.000Yeah, it says here, this is the actual quotation out there, when the body was removed from the lake, tape was found around the eyes and the hands and legs were loosely bound.
00:35:46.000The bindings of his hands and legs and placement of the tape were consistent with Hamad having done this to himself.
00:35:52.000So they were floating the idea on the 16th, Wednesday on the 16th at 2pm, of suicide.
00:35:58.000And there's no way that you can get suicide out of this statement in any way.
00:36:02.000Yeah, they say it right there in the police statement.
00:36:07.000And it's the same MO, and I read the paper Friday on air, and it said that his family said he had been upset about the FBI coming and grabbing all the school books he mailed to Palestine and spying on him and detaining him.
00:36:25.000And then they spun that to mean, oh, he did commit suicide.
00:36:47.000And they had a hit out on him and went and killed him like so many others.
00:36:51.000And the police said, oh, I'll never forget.
00:36:53.000It's quite normal to shoot yourself twice in the head, George.
00:36:57.000Yeah, some of the language in this communique from the APD said something like this, information was provided to the missing persons unit by persons close to Hamad, this is what suspects, persons close to Hamad, who are they?
00:37:33.000It's like Bobby Kennedy's son won't talk about his dad's murder even though it's now admitted.
00:37:37.000Yeah, they floated this just to get the idea out to the public that he committed suicide.
00:37:43.000There's no evidence there that that existed, that he did.
00:37:46.000Now you've talked to teachers that knew him.
00:37:47.000Yes, a friend of mine came and sat down with me soon after this, on about Thursday sometime, and I think it was after they had disclosed to the teachers that Hamad had died.
00:38:01.000And they were, the kids were all upset at the school, Clint's small school, middle school, and also the teachers were mad as hell because this man was very well loved by many of the teachers in the Austin Independent School District.
00:38:13.000They knew him and had worked with him for several years and they admired this man.
00:38:17.000By the way, the special guest we've got, are we calling him from our end or the network end?
00:38:26.000So let's find out if we're going to call from here in Austin or the network is going to call.
00:38:31.000Alright, let's shift gears back into what you were covering and we'll recap this and have the guest on in about 20 minutes.
00:38:36.000Okay, we're picking up on the overall scheme of things is a system and they use systems of thought that they impregnate us with and then those things are manipulated from media and upsetting very things like this GM food and the avian flu epidemics.
00:38:57.000They continue to keep us upset and in that upsetness then they can change our views and we begin to reach different conclusions.
00:39:07.000and different worldviews, and that's how they're manipulating and forming us into something that they want that is way, way from our real self.
00:39:14.000It's a false self that's actually being fed by these false, and they're not totally false.
00:39:21.000There is truth on some of these ideas.
00:39:23.000They're mesmerized with a false map made for the mind where it's like play-along.
00:39:28.000I mean, that's what all the terror drills and martial law drills and randomly pulling you over because there's terrorists.
00:39:35.000I mean, it's all about the illusion and the drills are all about feeding into the hysteria.
00:39:40.000Some of the universities in England and Great Britain are dedicated to cognitive dissonance and cognitive psychology, I should say.
00:39:49.000And on the West Coast, later on, after Lewin had come in and started establishing his work and his career, the West Coast began to be a cauldron of exactly what you're saying, a subjectivism, an occultism.
00:40:04.000Aldous Huxley comes over and starts building ISIS cults on the West Coast.
00:40:09.000And it's all of these things that take us away from being able to discern and establish truth.
00:40:15.000And they're all cold-blooded rationalists, but they destroy the old religious orders and bring in new ones to control us.
00:40:24.000But themselves as being Olympian gods, you could say, they describe themselves as Olympians among some of the closer circles, the upper circles.
00:40:32.000And the Great White Brotherhood on Mount Olympus, and they argue that, well, they're in control, that means they deserve to be in control.
00:40:45.000Yes, I think Eustace Mullins used the word parasites, I think, in some of his writings.
00:40:50.000And they're sucking the blood out of us and the very livelihood through interest in other things.
00:40:55.000But not just our money, they're sucking... Madison Avenue at a basic level admits they want to make you feel inadequate to then sell women $100 cream packages that cost $5 to make.
00:41:05.000You know, it's all to make you feel inadequate.
00:41:18.000Yeah, at one time, that's a very important point, Alex, is that behavioral psychology, the School of Behavioral Psychology, came out of Chicago and Johns Hopkins, and then it moved very quickly to Madison Avenue to put together some of the largest advertising agencies in the world.
00:41:36.000They used to want to just modify our behavior, but what they've done now is they've reinvented and put into us identities that we don't really want, if we knew what those identities really would spell.
00:43:42.000It's an alchemy of the spirit, but they want to give us the spirit that they want us to have.
00:43:50.000To take us away from our real self and concoct and make a virtual false self.
00:43:56.000Well that's because if we're petty and weak and corrupt and groveling then we are so insecure and so afraid we can't ever stand up and get above it at the heights of goodness and just feel the crisp power of it all instead of being down on this level.
00:44:15.000They love isolating us in that because when we do break out of that it totally defeats them.
00:44:20.000Yes, if we continue to hate one another, and even hate these people, we'll never get out of it.
00:44:25.000We have to forgive, and through that forgiveness we awaken, and we can stand outside and look objectively at our state.
00:44:31.000And I agree with that, but what I do, George, subconsciously is, I never did it on purpose, is that I use anger, which short-circuits people they've programmed enough, because they've used anger, to let them wake up, kind of like a blip in the TV screen, so they're angry, so for a minute they see reality, so then they can get out of it.
00:44:50.000I get mad when I have to focus on this fully.
00:44:53.000Yes, you have such an insight and it can be to an extent that you get frustrated at times because you want so badly to tell people what's really going on.
00:46:12.000Ten years ago, even five years ago, YouTube wasn't big, or other ones, we wouldn't see the We Are Change Ireland video of the Member of Parliament assaulting them, and then the Times of London would have gotten away with the lie.
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00:51:18.000George continuing, and we've got a guest rapidly accelerating towards us, I want to keep you on during that, but continuing with the different control modes they have.
00:51:27.000We were talking during the break about how they try to also balkanize patriot groups or divide and conquer any resistance.
00:51:34.000Trying to make people obsess on one group or another when in their own documents they talk about how they try to dominate every major group and even play those off against each other starting with left-right.
00:51:46.000Yes, I think this Denver thing is very dangerous.
00:51:49.000I think you had a show earlier last week on Denver itself.
00:51:52.000Yeah, the Recreate 68 has subgroups that are calling for attacking police, and now they've come out and said we're white supremacists using classic cop attack.
00:52:40.000You know, we were talking during a break about how, you know, I realize there's evil people in control of every major group and I haven't been pigeonholed because we want to have a wide appeal to get everybody to fight the policies of the New World Order instead of making it about a particular racial group or subgroup because then they can pigeonhole us there.
00:52:57.000And that's also in their own battle plans to keep us from doing that.
00:53:01.000They want to make us pick a group to attack to limit our effect.
00:53:06.000What they've done also, they've pitted the Hispanic Americans or the Mexican Americans against the other people in this country.
00:53:12.000But what we need to do is we need to wake up on both sides of the border and say, hey, we have our leaders to fear on both sides of the border and them alone.
00:53:21.000But at the same time, the threats they create are so real you have to respond, which then feeds into the paradigm.
00:53:28.000All I'm saying is, let's be honest, the Mexicans have been taught in Mexico that this belongs to them, and that gringos are bad and need to die, and my whole point is that I'm not trying to balkanize them when I talk about it.
00:53:38.000Let's just be honest, just like police.
00:53:41.000I'm not against the average cop, but I'm against them being trained for martial law and violating our rights.
00:53:46.000Yes, exactly, but they do martial and control those people through hate.
00:53:50.000And that's the way they keep everyone separate.
00:53:55.000We just need to wake up to these mechanisms and these techniques of continuing to nurture and put forward these very hate-filled ideas about one another, whether it's the Hispanics against the gringos or whatever, or the blacks against the whites, and so forth.
00:54:10.000They've got us totally, you know what I mean, at each other's throats.
00:54:13.000And it's working, because human nature is susceptible to that.
00:54:16.000And that's what they said over a hundred years ago.
00:54:18.000They went to the British Crown and others and said, look, we have sciences of the mind In Germany and in England, the main places it came from, we and two competing schools that merged.
00:54:27.000This is all documented and I've had historians and educators and Department of Education policy heads on to talk about it.
00:54:33.000And they said we can scientifically craft this and have a dictatorship of the elite that never ends.
00:54:38.000And we're a hundred years into this and now they're getting it ready for the mass extermination.
00:54:43.000Yes, there's a group in England at Sussex, University of Sussex, that's called the Cogs Group.
00:54:49.000And if you go into there, I recommend you go into that website at Sussex and start drilling down into that site and seeing the white papers that that group is putting out.
00:54:59.000And I can't even explain and tell you what the titles of some of those papers mean.
00:55:04.000They are deeply into mind research and sociology and so forth, and it's really mind-boggling what they're doing.
00:55:11.000Universities aren't even for teaching people.
00:55:14.000They take your money, your savings, to send your kids to school, and then literally 90% of UT is weapons research, mind control research, or it's for buying corporations, biggest university in the world, here in Austin, 50 plus billion in their liquid cream fund, increasing the taxes, taxes pay for it, no more free tuition.
00:55:33.000And you go to the psychology department, and of course they've got them all over the world, their facilities, and I was allowed to see the declassified stuff by somebody that works there, who runs all their computers, and it was all mind control.
00:55:55.000What I did a while back in my own studies was I took and looked at the isms and I started substituting the word systems of thought.
00:56:05.000So there's political systems of thought and so forth and there's psychological systems of thought and so forth and these are all used to compartmentalize us and to manage us.
00:56:14.000We're going to have this guest for about 10-15 minutes, but then we're going to come back to you, George.
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01:00:42.000human rights activist for peace and justice in Palestine.
01:00:46.000He is the treasurer of the organization that Raed was part of, he last Tuesday came up missing and was found late last week in the Colorado River, a section of it known as Lady Bird Lake here in Austin, Texas.
01:01:07.000And so he's obviously one of the closest people we can get to this case and who talked to this man.
01:01:14.000People are very upset who know him here in Austin.
01:01:16.000George knows some of the teachers at the school.
01:02:30.000You've got the floor to Tell us what you think really happened.
01:02:33.000Well, I probably will put to rest some ideas of conspiracy, but maybe feed some other ideas of conspiracy.
01:02:44.000And I believe that there was some conspiracy involved, but perhaps not in the same way that most people do.
01:02:51.000With regard to the specific events of Riyadh's death, In retrospect, all his activities leading up to the time of his death appear to have been organized in order to take care of his affairs.
01:03:07.000He was carefully putting his affairs in order and turning over responsibilities and bank accounts and passwords and web accounts and all this sort of thing to other people that were close to him, including myself.
01:03:27.000So that's an indication that he was trying to control events.
01:03:32.000And I, uh, as far as the, what happened the very evening of his disappearance and his death, um, he, I, I was the one who had the very last conversation with him.
01:03:47.000And within a few hours after that, his wife, uh, uh, called me and said, we've reported him missing.
01:03:58.000And, um, the, and then the next call that I got regarding this was from a police detective or investigator who said that they were following up on her report, uh, her missing persons report.
01:04:14.000And he said that they, they did have some, uh, new information.
01:04:20.000The new information was that, uh, they had traced the cell phone signal And, uh, into the general area, and they found his car, and the car was unlocked, but the door closed, and on the seat of the car were his, uh, the car keys and his cell phone.
01:04:46.000Why would he not leave a note if he did bound himself?
01:04:56.000But here's something that didn't make the news very much, because the one thing that this investigator told me was that they had a photographic record of some of his last moments.
01:05:11.000Because, in these situations, they look for, like, ATM surveillance cameras and things like that, and they found a convenience store across the street, I think it was, that did have a camera that captured some of what happened.
01:05:28.000And that camera captured him driving up, sitting there for a period of time, then getting out of the car and walking in the direction of the lake, then returning.
01:05:40.000to the car getting in the car for a briefer period of time and then getting out of the car again and going to the lake and that um... the uh... uh... that second time was corresponded to the time that he called me.
01:06:23.000Well, the organization was set up by Riyadh to a large extent.
01:06:28.000It was a one-person show, although he had volunteers who contributed in various ways to that, especially in Palestine.
01:06:39.000Where he had people who were working on the projects that the organization supported.
01:06:45.000Okay, let's get into the part of what he said to you, and we appreciate your time, sir, on the phone right before he reportedly killed himself, and then expand from there what you do believe is a conspiracy.
01:06:59.000Well, as it turns out, it was a very routine conversation.
01:07:05.000He just asked if I had followed up on his, uh, uh, if I had seen his emails that he had sent earlier.
01:07:15.000And, uh, uh, then I said to him, well, uh, he was, he was about ready to go.
01:07:23.000He, whenever he was on the phone, it was like, he wanted to always get off the phone as quickly as possible, uh, as if he was busy or something.
01:07:32.000And so you could never get in a word edgewise, uh, with him most of the time.
01:08:38.000He had the FBI after him, they detained him, they'd gone through his house and business, taken all his books and things, and gone through all his papers, and so if he is being investigated and people involved with sending school books and money to Palestine and other things are getting arrested, Of course he would start phasing out and moving himself out of the business.
01:08:59.000And then we have Israel saying in UPI and AP, what, five, six years ago, that they would kill people in the U.S.
01:09:05.000supporting Palestine or, you know, any terrorist connections.
01:09:12.000I mean, his legs are bound, his arms are bound.
01:09:14.000Uh, you know, all the, you know, he's got stuff over his eyes, uh, and then you're saying that, I mean, maybe he was meeting somebody at the lake who was going to give him a big donation.
01:09:24.000I mean, I'm just saying, the police always have, and it's come out before, they made it look like Bobby was killed by Sirhan Sirhan.
01:09:31.000And then now it's come out that three CIA guys were there and they've admitted they killed him.
01:09:35.000Or, you know, they made it look like Kennedy was killed by one guy and now it's admitted that he wasn't.
01:09:42.000I'm just saying that just because he was getting accounts shifted over to other people, that, I mean, that I don't think proves that he wasn't suicided.
01:10:31.000Yeah, and he knew that he was essentially being destroyed.
01:10:37.000The mere fact that they took away his records and papers and all that sort of thing, and put some controls on his bank account and took away his His passport, all of that meant that they were in the process of destroying him.
01:10:55.000Now, they never found enough evidence to indict him or arrest him.
01:11:02.000Well, they always take everything so you can't fight back.
01:11:47.000He was very concerned for what was happening to his family, that in effect the investigators were trying to get at him through his family, and that they were going to accuse his family members of being part of a conspiracy.
01:12:00.000Oh, so he did that, you're saying he killed himself to protect his family by destroying the only link?
01:12:06.000Yeah, and at the same time he was to some extent protecting his Well, I'm not saying I agree with you that they drove him to suicide, but I do see your point and I do see the Palestinians.
01:12:24.000What is this cultural thing about... Well, I think he was a hero for doing what he did because what he was saying is, I'm not going to let you Yes, and to maybe make some people doubt me and hate me and all that sort of thing.
01:12:48.000I'm not going to give you control over my life and over my family or anything like that.
01:12:54.000and his way of taking control is not only to to uh... taking out of their hands but also in the manner of ending his life that he cast uh... suspicion on his enemies and uh... you know i don't at by any means want to and the the speculation about uh... about uh... how somebody might have murdered him
01:14:36.000Yeah, see, I don't know too much about the details, but... Well, he called you, you're saying, right before he killed himself, or we're speculating.
01:15:06.000He had reported to me that his neighbor Uh, had seen people, two people with funny accents and, uh, and, uh, guns, automatic weapons that, uh, that looked like, uh, uh, the Galil, uh, weapons that, uh, that were next door.
01:15:30.000Now, all I can do is report to you what he said to me.
01:15:33.000Well, he doesn't sound like somebody who makes stuff up.
01:15:39.000Not to make up stuff, but, uh... Okay, so his neighbor, his neighbor sees people with, quote, funny accents with what looks like Israeli rifles.
01:15:50.000The information I have also from my sources say that the neighbors were approached several months before for surveillance.
01:15:57.000They were trying to set up surveillance.
01:16:06.000I got it from two different TV stations that heard the scanners that it looked like he'd been tortured.
01:16:12.000And present, if the police want to diffuse this speculation about murder and suicide and all that, give us those tapes, and I want to see the man walking back and forth around there.
01:16:23.000I just, it's hard to believe, it's unbelievable, it's preposterous in my opinion.
01:16:28.000Well, yeah, I think the tapes should be released.
01:16:33.000I know at one time I was asked not to mention these in interviews, because the case was still under investigation, but as far as I'm because the case was still under investigation, but as far as Because supposedly they were still pursuing the idea that he was murdered, and so there were certain things that they didn't want to reveal publicly.
01:17:01.000Paul, I know that a lot of this stuff may seem like little points to you, but every little tidbit is big.
01:17:08.000Specifically, what did he say about men with foreign accents and Israeli-style machine guns at the neighbor's house?
01:17:16.000That they were watching and that they had communicated with the U.S.
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01:20:58.000I've got to go look at a bigger office for real estate here at 20 After.
01:21:02.000So we're going to keep Dr. Moritty 10 minutes after.
01:21:06.000We're going to end the Genesis transmission and do 10 minutes into the next hour for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers and of course listeners at InfoWars.com.
01:21:16.000So if you go over to the InfoWars.com audio streams, you want to hear the last 10 minutes after this Okay, the website is PCWF, as in Palestine Children's Welfare Fund, dot org.
01:22:11.000Of course he starts getting ready to die.
01:22:13.000And a lot of times, what I've been told by people in DEA, CIA, FBI, that when a mafia group hits you, they usually contract with somebody else to do it.
01:22:22.000They come into your house, it's dark, they say, okay, come with us, you're going to write a suicide letter or we're going to kill your family.
01:22:28.000Watch your daughter get dropped off at school today, I'm going to rape her.
01:23:00.000I mean, that's my question to you, doctor.
01:23:03.000Well, there's more to it than that, because the timing of it, I discussed this with Riyadh.
01:23:09.000I believe that the raid was connected to my cooperation with Riyadh, with another organization, the Free Gaza Movement, that is taking boats into Gaza this summer in defiance of the Israeli blockade.
01:23:22.000And we were at a stage where he was going to get those boats for us, and him being taken out of the picture at that time with the FBI raid really caused some damage, not complete damage, to what we were doing.
01:23:37.000Ah, now we learn how it turned into a military operation, why they probably gave the red light.
01:26:07.000Yeah, what I would say, as far as what I see right now, one of the weak problems in this whole thing right now, and it actually can expose it, is let's bring forward those eyewitnesses that saw those agents with guns that were in nearby neighborhood homes or something.
01:26:24.000That is something that needs to be explored to its nth degree.
01:26:28.000Yeah, this needs to be all over the papers that he saw these people.
01:26:32.000Israel admits, and we have UPI and AP, they're running around domestically, and I tell you, man, this is incredible.
01:26:40.000This is just... We need to take back our country.
01:26:49.000I mean, and you know, you've got to know, Israel's got the Homeland Security head, they've got the Attorney General.
01:26:55.000I mean, there's no doubt that it's the biggest lobby in Washington, and they said they'd kill American citizens if they want, and you know, we're talking about this now, I wonder if they're going to come kill me and say I committed suicide.
01:27:05.000I mean, you know, and I don't even want to attack Israel, but I can't sit here while Israel does this inside my country.
01:27:12.000I'm not even enemies with Israel, but they're out of control.
01:27:15.000They're turning our country into a police state.
01:27:29.000The teachers should call a big press conference, an independent school district press conference, get as many people together as you can, and demand that we get down to the bottom of this.
01:28:10.000I mean, this is so suspicious what you're saying now.
01:28:12.000I understand you're trying to be balanced and say maybe he killed himself, but God, when you look at it on the other side of this, it's just incredible.
01:28:19.000Well, the question I was just raising before we switched over to web streaming is about the timing of this.
01:28:30.000Because Riyadh had been under a person of interest, let's say, with the FBI and the IRS for a very long time.
01:28:42.000So, what exactly, and he sent me copies of his previous communication with the FBI, but what made them act at this time?
01:28:55.000Well, I asked Riyadh, you know, He was, quite frankly, right on the verge of closing a deal for one of the boats that we were going to use in the operation this summer, which is going to happen anyway, by the way.
01:29:12.000It's set for August 5th, and the idea is that we're taking Israelis and Palestinians and South Africans and People from all over the world, including priests and rabbis and imams and a former member of the British Parliament.
01:30:22.000I know you had multiple conversations with him.
01:30:23.000What others told you about the men creeping around his house, talking to the neighbors that, quote, spoke funny and had machine guns, which, of course, they wanted to get back to him or they wouldn't be walking around with these.
01:30:44.000I mean, all he could do is to say what he saw and heard with his neighbors.
01:30:49.000But there were two men with an appearance that for them appeared foreign and had strange accents.
01:31:05.000And they were observing what was going on.
01:31:10.000They were communicating with the FBI and IRS.
01:31:14.000In Austin, there's a big contingent that opposes taxi drivers.
01:31:19.000Yeah, but they did not actually come into Riyadh's house.
01:31:24.000They stayed on or near the neighbor's property and looked through some of the spaces in the fence and things like that.
01:31:34.000So, and he sent me a picture of the fence, but that's not much good without... I asked him to take some pictures, if possible, of the men themselves, and he apparently was unable to do that.
01:31:47.000But the neighbors told him about this?
01:31:57.000Oh, another thing I might mention to you is that More recently, he got one of his friends whose materials were among those that the investigators carted away.
01:32:11.000And he got that person to call the investigators and say, well, listen, I need these materials back.
01:32:17.000Do you have any idea when this investigation is going to be finished so that I can get those materials?
01:32:24.000And apparently, the investigator told the friend, That they hadn't even begun to look through the materials that they had taken.
01:32:34.000So here it is, maybe six weeks after the materials were taken, and they hadn't even opened the boxes.
01:32:40.000Well, we know that 99.9 percent, and they admit that, of tens of thousands of terror arrests, they have one conviction.
01:32:46.000Usually it's just a big show of arresting brown people and acting like they're fighting some terror threat, or finding mentally retarded street kids in Miami and giving them a hundred grand to videotape a government building, or finding a blind cleric and finding two mentally retarded guys on city welfare to drive the truck and the FBI cook the bomb, train the driver.
01:33:16.000Well, I've been involved since 1965, actually, which is when I first went to Palestine.
01:33:25.000But it went up another level in, say, 2001, 2002, when I I participated with the International Solidarity Movement in some non-violent resistance actions there.
01:33:38.000I was shot in the foot, and later, two years ago, this was by an Israeli who also shot six others that I was with at the time, an Israeli soldier.
01:33:49.000And then, two years ago, I was arrested upon entering Israel, and held for two weeks, and ultimately deported.
01:33:59.000Israel's the only country in the world with legalized torture, you know that, right?
01:34:02.000Yeah, no, they wouldn't want to do that.
01:34:07.000They didn't hold me in that kind of facility.
01:34:12.000I don't think it makes sense for them to do that, just from the consequences.
01:34:24.000I'm sure you saw this week, all these Israeli soldiers are going public about torturing, killing people, and admitting they just do it for fun.
01:34:32.000That's why they're going to end up losing, is that you can't just shoot little kids for fun, and all the videos of them killing little kids and laughing, or the videos of our troops just shooting families in their cars for fun.
01:34:42.000I mean, it's scary, because they're bringing all these people, all these troops back home here, and God, we really have turned into Nazis.
01:35:43.000They've lost all the PR advantage they had running over Michigan girls with no criminal record with a bulldozer twice and laughing about it as she bleeds with a broken body.
01:35:53.000I mean, it just isn't going to work anymore.
01:35:55.000Do they know that minute by minute they're turning the world against them?
01:35:58.000Yeah, well we have to use that because it's the only way that we're going to get our rights back and the rights of Palestinians I just don't understand the chutzpah of running over a woman with a bulldozer and laughing about it.
01:36:18.000Well, one theory is that they were testing the water at that time to see if they could do it and get away with it because they did that to three of our volunteers, two of whom were killed and one of whom almost died with wounds to the face.
01:36:34.000All in the space of one month at that time.
01:36:49.000Would you say that the people got mad at it, or would you say that those killing US citizens to test the waters were successful?
01:36:57.000Oh, I think they were totally unsuccessful.
01:36:59.000Nowadays, if When I encounter people who are new to the issue, and I tell them I'm from the International Solidarity Movement, I ask them, have you heard of the International Solidarity Movement?
01:38:28.000I'm going to leave now, and you go ahead and tell everybody what you think about this for 10 minutes, and then we'll bring George out of here at 24 after and meet the other radio show.
01:38:36.000Okay, listening audience out there, you've heard a personal account of a man that was killed, murdered, and they're alleging suicide, some of the authorities are.
01:38:49.000They're telling us that there was a tape, but they're not forthcoming with the videotape yet that would prove up maybe a possible suicide on Town Lake, or it's called Lady Bird Lake now.
01:39:00.000This has taken place in Austin, Texas.
01:39:04.000And we have a man that was just interviewed by Alex Jones, Paul Lardy, and he had been involved with different organizations that had been over in Israel, actually in Gaza, and also he'd gone over there and he'd experienced some very harsh treatment himself over a number of years.
01:39:25.000Some of his friends were actually killed over there.
01:39:28.000There's a great number of people that care about the Palestinian cause.
01:39:33.000And they're going over to the West Bank and to Gaza and providing charity also to some of those people over there that have been suffering for a number of years.
01:39:45.000Some of the points made by Riyad Hamad's death I believe are very flimsy.
01:39:51.000Some of the first reports put out by the APD, I think, do not have very much substance to them.
01:39:59.000There were different things by Paul Lordy.
01:40:02.000He said something about, well, if he was going to bound himself, he would do it very well.
01:40:06.000Here they're reporting a loosely bounding of his ankles and hands and stuff.
01:40:10.000Nobody's going to tie themselves up and throw themselves in a lake and commit suicide like that.
01:40:26.000We do know that there's a large number, many teachers that knew of his teaching and his ability, and they respected him as a man, as a teacher.
01:40:35.000He's working on a PhD in keyboarding, one of the computer science, computer media, I think they might call that today.
01:40:43.000So, this man was a citizen of the United States of America.
01:40:52.000He was doing charity work for Palestinian kids, and now the newest thing that they were into was taking and creating a boat bypass of the Israeli authorities, which probably angered them to a large extent.
01:41:09.000I don't know why, you know, or how he met his final death.
01:41:13.000There were other details that were brought out in the interview also.
01:41:16.000And some of those details would get back to there was surveillance and there were some very suspicious people in that neighborhood that were surveilling him and keeping him under watch.
01:41:27.000These were foreign looking people with some kinds of submachine guns.
01:41:31.000Could be described as Israeli type machine guns.
01:41:35.000This came out and was reported from neighbors back to Riyadh, Hamad.
01:41:41.000So as we're getting more and more into this death that occurred, a very tragic death here in Austin, Texas.
01:41:49.000They believe that the first police report, I believe, took place on Wednesday, April 16, 2008.
01:41:57.000At 2 o'clock, there was a police report that was released.
01:42:02.000The narrative of this says something like this.
01:42:43.000located Hamad's vehicle parked near Lady Bird Lake.
01:42:48.000An extensive search was conducted of the area, but Hamad was not found.
01:42:52.000Well, in the interview with Mr. Laugherty, Paul Laugherty, he stated that there was tape that was from some security camera in the nearby area that show Hamad driving down to the lake, then walking down to the lake, coming back to his car and so forth.
01:43:10.000But I mean, I want to see, if there was a tape doing that, then maybe there's a tape showing him bounding himself up, I don't know.
01:43:22.000The teachers within the Austin Independent School District need to go out and lobby very strongly and make their feelings known about getting down to the truth of this matter and so forth.
01:43:36.000We just have to continue to ask questions and not put anybody under a cloud of suspicion.
01:43:45.000The police department is probably acting well-intentioned, and everyone concerned here, I'm sure, is acting with good intentions.
01:43:54.000It's just that we need more information and we need more people forthcoming to get us down to a real bottom line analysis and a conclusion and a summary of exactly what did happen.
01:44:25.000He was under death threats and so forth.
01:44:30.000Some boxes he had sent over there to Gaza and to the Palestinians had been returned.
01:44:36.000There were people suspicious in his neighborhood and so forth.
01:44:41.000So it looked like to me that he was responding to get his affairs together to take care of his family.
01:44:48.000He was anticipating murder here of himself.
01:44:52.000That's sort of my analysis at this point without any further information.
01:44:56.000Or tapes being seen of him throwing himself into Lady Bird Lake, binding himself up across the mouth and eyes and stuff and throwing himself in.
01:45:07.000It's consistent with murder when you tape a person's eyes.
01:45:11.000You especially tape a person's eyes and mouth so they cannot cry out for help.
01:45:18.000Then you bind them up, their legs and so forth, so they cannot swim.
01:45:22.000Their hands and his legs were bound so that they could not swim, and then you throw the guy in there.
01:45:27.000And this is consistent with a murder of drowning.
01:45:32.000Just, you know, the man could not swim, could not get himself out of those bindings, and as a result he drowned.
01:45:41.000So that's basically my analysis at this point, not having any further information.
01:45:47.000And we don't have all the information, so we have to be careful in making and reaching quick conclusions in this area.
01:45:55.000But again, I call on the students and the teachers there to get out here and get the word out and demand More answers to many of these questions that are not being answered at this time.
01:46:09.000And especially the video that was talked about earlier about him walking down to Town Lake and so forth.