Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth Co-Founder Justin Jackman joins the Alex Jones Show to talk about his organization and the upcoming symposium he is hosting on May 17th in Las Vegas, NV. Justin also talks about the "We Are Change" confrontation with a crippled girl with cerebral palsy.
00:00:13.000Second week it's happened, and boy am I excited.
00:00:15.000I mean, not only do we have the student scholars on, and we plugged a little bit of their event on May 17th in the first hour, but we're going to have an eyewitness to what went down over at this We Are Change confrontation.
00:00:28.000I mean, it's all over the right-wing blogs.
00:00:54.000And that's why it's so important to get these videos, to get The Road to Tyranny, to get Martial Law, to get Loose Change Final Cut, make copies, hand them out, and show people.
00:01:05.000The 9-11 Truth Movement just wants justice for those who carried out the attacks.
00:01:10.000We just want our Constitution and Bill of Rights back.
00:01:13.000And that's why, right now, I am completely honored to have one of the co-founders of Student Scholars for 9-11 Truth.
00:01:19.000That's sst911.org on with me right now to talk a little bit of 9-11 Truth.
00:01:27.000And not only talk a little bit of 9-11 Truth, but talk about this great symposium that he's put together.
00:01:31.000I really didn't get to talk about people other than J. Michael Springman that are going to be there, but Daniel Hopsicker is going to be there, Muhammad Ata in the Venice Flying Circus, Donna Marshall-Connor, and Michelle Little.
00:01:42.000Family members are going to be there as well as Bob McElveen.
00:01:45.000If you haven't heard him speak, he's a very powerful speaker.
00:02:07.000Thanks a lot for having me on the show.
00:02:09.000Well, why don't you tell us a little bit about how you got started in this whole movement, what you've been able to accomplish, and then we'll get into what you're doing in May.
00:02:20.000Well, I first started Student Scholars for 9-11 Truth with Mike Jackman back in February 2007.
00:02:29.000So we've been going just a little bit over a year at this point.
00:02:34.000Essentially, you know, it was just set up because we wanted to set up a coalition of students across the world who are seriously looking into this subject.
00:02:43.000Now we have about 80 members from all across the United States, Canada, the UK, and as far away as Japan.
00:02:51.000So we're very excited, and we were able to get pretty much every single presidential candidate during this past primary season on record.
00:03:00.000You know, with their views on a new 9-11 investigation.
00:03:04.000And if any of the listeners out there want to learn more, watch the videos, or check us out, they can visit sst911.org.
00:03:10.000That's a little bit of the background.
00:03:52.000And I mean, I was able, with my press pass, to talk to people like Tommy Thompson, Sam Brownback, James Gilmore, Duncan Hunter, and others, about not only the really important issues regarding 9-11, such as the Pakistani funding, the fact that, you know, bin Laden is supposedly in Pakistan, and, you know, the fact we're not going after these people.
00:04:15.000You know, the veil that they're putting on.
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00:08:24.000There you go, there's William Lewis himself on the cover.
00:08:27.000There's Bob Bowman, Maria Heller, and I'm not sure who the other individual is, but all great patriots, and I can't wait to sit down and watch this.
00:08:34.000The guy's done some really great work in the past, and you can get that exclusively over at InfoWars.com.
00:08:41.000Now I have Justin Martel from Student Scholars for 9-11 Truth until at least half past the hour because we're actually going to have, I believe her name is Diane Lipson who was at this event with We Are Change who witnessed what really went down and of course folks You know, Gary did not punch a disabled girl in a wheelchair.
00:09:01.000But that doesn't stop the New York Post from reporting it.
00:09:03.000And then we're going to have Gary on in the fifth hour.
00:09:06.000That's right, I'm going to go over about 15-20 minutes and give Gary's side of the whole story.
00:09:12.000It should be a jam-packed next hour plus over at the Alex Jones Show.
00:09:16.000I'm very excited and I want to thank Alex again for letting me sit in.
00:09:19.000Justin, this event you're throwing, why don't you let the people know what this event is all about, how it came to be, and how they can get tickets to it.
00:09:28.000Okay, so what's going on is on May 17th we're having the New England 9-11 Symposium.
00:09:33.000It's going to be held at Keene High School here in Keene, New Hampshire.
00:10:04.000Absolutely, and why don't you name off who's going to be there and why it's so important?
00:10:08.000I mean, you've literally got people that have never come out to any of these types of events before.
00:10:14.000Okay, well, essentially, there's going to be, as I've indicated, We're going to have Daniel Conjata, who's the star of the TV program, Rescue Me, one of the hardest-working celebrities for 9-11 Truth, and he is tentatively scheduled to host the symposium.
00:10:31.000Then we'll have, of course, Bob McElveen, Sr.
00:10:34.000He's the father of Bobby McElveen, Jr., who lost his life on 9-11.
00:10:39.000And Mr. McElveen attended every 9-11 Commission hearing.
00:10:42.000As a member of September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, he's traveled all over the world speaking about 9-11.
00:10:49.000And one of our researchers will have, of course, Daniel Hopsicker.
00:10:52.000He's an investigative journalist and the author of, uh, the author of Welcome to Terrorland, Muhammad Ada, and the 9-11 cover-up in Florida.
00:11:01.000Next, of course, we'll have Michelle Little, and she lost her brother, FDNY firefighter David M. Weiss, on 9-11.
00:11:09.000And along with 9-11 family members Donna Marshall-Connor and Christina Kemenick, Little called for a real investigation into 9-11, At the National Press Club on 9-11, 2006.
00:11:17.000And we'll have Sander Hicks, and he's an author and investigative journalist, and he's done extensive research into the ISI-Pakistan connection to 9-11, and published The Big Wedding, which details the whistleblowers and many conflicts of interest within the 9-11 Commission as well.
00:11:35.000And Hicks is going to be speaking about his current investigation into the mysterious death of Dr. David Graham.
00:11:42.000We'll have Donna Marshall-Connor, and she's also a very active 9-11 family member.
00:11:46.000She lost her daughter in the towers on 9-11, and she was, of course, there with Michelle Little and Christina Kemenyk on 9-11-2006 with the National Press Club.
00:11:56.000We'll have Barry Blicker, who is an award-winning Canadian alternative media journalist, documentary producer, and political activist.
00:12:03.000His presentation will concern the media blackout of alternative 9-11 theory.
00:12:08.000And then, of course, we'll have you, Jason Bermas, and I think the folks out there know, but you're of course a documentary filmmaker, and your two films, Loose Change 2nd Edition and Loose Change Final Cut, are pretty much responsible for bringing this movement onto the brink of becoming mainstream.
00:12:26.000And then we'll have John Gold, who's a longtime researcher and activist.
00:12:30.000And he was instrumental in the production of 9-11 Press for Truth and has been an advocate for 9-11 first responders and the Feel Good Foundation.
00:12:36.000And not only that, but you know, no matter what happens with me, you're going to be able to see a portion of Fabled Enemies, my new 9-11 picture.
00:12:43.000I sent you the script probably like two weeks ago now, and you've read through quite a bit of it, obviously.
00:12:48.000It's undergone a few changes, and I've edited the first 10 or 15 minutes over here in Austin, Texas.
00:13:29.000And then, of course, I left out Michael Springman, who you mentioned earlier, who will be at the event.
00:13:35.000And Springman was, for those who don't know, he's a government whistleblower who, while working for the State Department, was the head U.S.
00:13:44.000consular official in the CIA-controlled U.S.
00:13:46.000consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, from 1987 to 1989.
00:13:51.000And he later reported that he was forced by his superiors to issue visas for individuals traveling to the U.S.
00:14:16.000You know, so this nonsense that the .gov sites put out that they never supported Bin Laden, and in fact when they supported the Mujahideen, they used the ISI as a conduit.
00:14:25.000In other words, they give the ISI money, and then they would give it to the Mujahideen.
00:14:41.000Osama Bin Laden's family, the Bin Laden family and the Bush family, were as tight as you can get.
00:14:47.000And then on top of that, you know, you have a CIA whistleblower who's working in the consulate at Jeddah, finding out that Bin Laden is part of this whole plan!
00:15:13.000But it's incredible what he says, and that's also going to make my new movie.
00:15:16.000I think it's an important piece of the puzzle.
00:15:18.000I think it's been overlooked for far too long.
00:15:21.000And it's time for this information to go mainstream.
00:15:24.000It's time for people to understand that this administration and the previous administration And the administration before that are all corrupt.
00:15:37.000The Clinton administration is culpable.
00:15:38.000The Bush administration is very culpable.
00:15:41.000I mean, they've passed outlandish legislation after the fact that really...
00:15:45.000Makes them, I guess, even bigger demons in my eyes.
00:15:48.000But when, you know, Bill Clinton gets confronted, and he's been confronted, folks, all over the country now, about Bilderberg, about Bohemian Grove, and about 9-11, it disgusts me that that pompous criminal says, how dare you?
00:16:45.000Jason, by the way, I have something basically to mention about the Pentagon, but before that you mentioned the Simpsons program.
00:16:55.000And I remember Alex, several months ago, it wasn't that long ago, he had mentioned on his show that in one of the programs
00:17:03.000Bart and his family took a trip to New York City and it was this was before 9-11 when this episode came out and I'm not sure if you saw it or not and that Bart Simpson was out sightseeing with his family and he looked up at the Twin Towers and the Twin Towers were off in the distance and then all of a sudden a nine appeared in the area of the Twin Towers in the far view and Bart held up his fingers like one and one or in a V sign or two fingers
00:17:33.000to right by the nine to turn it into a very uh... you know you could assume that that was saying nine eleven Well, I know what episode you're talking about, because there's only one episode where the Simpsons actually go to New York City, and I believe Homer goes into both Twin Towers, because he has to urinate after drinking several cans of crab juice.
00:17:53.000That's the kind of Simpsons geek I am, folks.
00:17:59.000And I don't remember that slight part, but boy, is that interesting, and I'm definitely going to check that out.
00:18:03.000But I mean, we have them on the Lone Gunman, I guess the X-Files spin-off show where the government has decided that they're going to remotely fly a commercial airliner into the Twin Towers and blame it on Arab terrorists.
00:18:23.000I've understood that they actually did artistic renditions, basically.
00:18:28.000They would have artists and perhaps even photographic artists, so to speak, gathered into a room or rooms in different places And, for instance, before the invasion of Poland, they actually graphically represented it all out ahead of time.
00:18:43.000And I think, from what I've heard of that, it may have more significance outside of the occult, but that it's essentially an occult method of projection of desire or objective into reality through a telepathic means, essentially, through a spiritual means.
00:18:57.000But, you know, what I call today, essentially, about Jason has mostly to do with the Pentagon.
00:19:06.000There's a film that was made five years ago, maybe a little longer ago, by a man named Eric Huffschmidt.
00:19:13.000And the film was called Troubling Questions, and I was wondering if you'd seen or heard of this film.
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00:24:04.000And let me tell you folks, it's the Alex Jones Show.
00:24:06.000There's no other show like it on radio.
00:24:09.000We've got Justin Martell of Student Scholars for 9-11 Truth with us throughout this segment.
00:24:13.000And then in a few minutes we're going to have an actual eyewitness to this We Are Change thing.
00:24:20.000And I've got to tell you, I don't think that she saw You know, Gary hit a crippled girl with cerebral palsy in a wheelchair, although that's what they're reporting.
00:24:30.000They're reporting that these guys were screaming obscenities, aka cursing, and hurting these people.
00:24:35.000And before I go back to Justin Martel, I just want to comment on what the last caller had to say.
00:24:39.000Yeah, unfortunately our leaders are into the occult, whether you believe in the occult or not.
00:24:43.000These guys do, they go to Bohemian Grove, they take part in the ritual of the cremation of care, so it's not up for debate.
00:24:50.000You know, I'm not saying the occult works or, you know, they're Satan worshippers.
00:24:53.000All I know is that they do join these societies like Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove, and they seem to be in the occult.
00:25:00.000I mean, there's History Channel documentaries about how Hitler thought he had occultic powers, and he would use symbolism.
00:25:08.000And then as far as his other question about that other documentary, and he's talking about the Pentagon, I would assume he's probably talking about the part where people are actually picking up these small pieces of debris for the FBI, and we do include that in Loose Change Final Cut.
00:25:23.000If I'm not answering your question, Mark, I do a little show on GCN as well.
00:26:27.000They are the ones that confronted Barack Obama.
00:26:29.000They are the ones that got Ron Paul to say that he would commit to a new 9-11 investigation, an independent one.
00:26:36.000They are the ones that are on the streets and uh... really doing it up and uh... you know i don't think the organization is big enough quite frankly if you are in college in your member of we are changed but you're not a student scholar for nine eleven truth consider joining i'm begging you need to you need to join this organization these guys are top-notch individuals their stand-up guys they're smart and they're funny to you know they they've got a whole other thing going on other than nine eleven truth although that is the focus
00:27:02.000And Justin Martel is really just one of the nicest human beings I've come across in this movement, and I consider him a really good friend.
00:27:10.000Justin, what's your take on the New York Post now reporting that, you know, we are changed as assaulting people in wheelchairs?
00:27:19.000I mean, yeah, I was actually just reading about this in journalism class while I was supposed to be paying attention, but I was looking this over, and I mean, I just sort of stand like, what would be the
00:27:33.000The motivation to beat up a girl in a wheelchair, to me, the way it sounded, it sounds like the family of this girl in the wheelchair, they were supporters of President Bush, and I think it sounded like the dad got agitated and started to beat up on Gary, is what it sounds like to me.
00:27:54.000And probably later used it as an excuse, you know, he was hitting my daughter in the wheelchair to get out of it and avoid charges.
00:28:01.000Yeah, it's pretty incredible and I'm reading her deposition here to the police and it doesn't say anything about, you know...
00:28:34.000I mean, you saw, did you see what happened to those guys over at the UK change?
00:28:40.000Uh, yes, yes, where the guy tripped over a camera, he tried to take the camera and then tripped and fell and then they said the UK changed, pushed him over.
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00:33:40.000We need to do what Gary did from We Are Change.
00:33:43.000Even if you're going to get your face bruised up, your lips split, and then get charged with assaulting a crippled girl with cerebral palsy, because that's what they're charging with.
00:33:54.000Not only in a court of law, but in the court of public opinion, by publishing this garbage in the New York Post.
00:34:00.000And before we go to Diane Lipson, who was there, and can tell us what she saw, and believe me, I just read her Her email.
00:34:07.000I mean the police apparently refused to take her testimony even though she went down to the station.
00:34:49.000A Secret Service person had a stand in an area that was, you know, I guess several yards away from where the bushes were going to get into awaiting them.
00:35:00.000There were a few words between Gary and the agent, and there was a little knot of people waiting to see the Bush women get escorted into the van.
00:35:13.000Gary was talking and exercising his right of free speech.
00:35:18.000I don't exactly remember what he was saying to them.
00:35:21.000But people in the crowd were kind of hostile to him.
00:35:23.000This is the Upper East Side of New York.
00:35:37.000He was with his wife and, I guess, I think it was two daughters, but one daughter was in a wheelchair.
00:35:43.000And he was taking particular exception to what Gary was saying.
00:35:46.000And at one point, he even made a threatening gesture to Gary.
00:35:50.000He caught this mystic Gary, and he had this weird, thick, half-smile on his face.
00:35:55.000And I had, like, a big moment of cognitive dissonance, because I'm wondering, why is this man acting like this with his family right there?
00:36:01.000Okay, so the Bushwomen get into the van.
00:36:11.000And I see the man, I'm pretty, yeah, I think he was wheeling the chair, right?
00:36:17.000I see everybody walking up the street, it's like a little bit of an incline, but instead of walking straight up the block, the man beams into this side of the building where Gary was, and then I hear him say that Gary touched his daughter, and then I see him beating up on Gary, and I did not, if Gary fought back I didn't see it.
00:36:51.000And of course, looking back, if what she said in the New York Post article, if Gary had really done anything to this woman's daughter, why would she be telling this man To back off.
00:37:06.000Why would she be telling him to stop, you know?
00:37:09.000Yeah, if he had actually physically threatened that girl in the wheelchair, there's no way that she would stop her husband from defending her.
00:38:41.000Two hours later, they told me not to make a statement, that there was no point or something like that.
00:38:46.000I'm still not sure why I didn't get to make a statement, but I came home and, of course, I typed up what I saw and sent it to Alex.
00:38:55.000So yeah, you typed it up here and it is very exquisite.
00:38:58.000We're going to be putting this on Infowars.com and of course this audio is going to be making it there too.
00:39:03.000But let's just be clear, he was never physically intimidating towards anybody, not only this guy or his daughter, but towards the Bush family in general.
00:39:12.000He was exercising his freedom of speech, which we no longer have in this country.
00:39:16.000They want to put you in a quote-unquote free speech zone.
00:39:19.000And even when he's in that zone, he gets assaulted and then arrested.
00:39:24.000He gets assaulted and then arrested, yes, exactly.
00:39:29.000I'm very frightened for Gary, because Gary, you know, he's a young man, and because this person could not control his temper, he might be ruining Gary's life.
00:39:43.000In addition to assisting him in other ways, we have to really pray for Gary, and pray for that sick guy who assaulted him, too, because this guy obviously has problems.
00:39:55.000His wife and his name are in the paper.
00:39:58.000If you can find this man's address, people need to start mailing this guy loose change final cut.
00:40:03.000They need to start mailing him Terror Storm.
00:40:06.000They need to know why Gary was there in the first place.
00:40:10.000God willing, maybe this guy is going to retract what he's done, apologize for assaulting another human being, and drop the ludicrous charges that he assaulted his daughter in a wheelchair.
00:41:03.000They want to demonize us as a violent group.
00:41:06.000Yes, they want people to believe that Gary would actually do something that he would never, never do.
00:41:12.000Diane, I thank you so much for the call.
00:41:14.000I'm sure Alex Jones is going to be in touch with you and he's probably going to have you as a guest tomorrow so you can describe all this.
00:41:21.000I'm going to let you go and I'm going to take some phone calls and then we're going to have Gary in overdrive so he can tell us everything.
00:41:26.000Diane, thank you again and thanks for trying to make a statement to these jackboot cops who just wouldn't hear it.
00:42:40.000You know, I'm not doing so great finding out that they're framing up We Are Change for assaulting young girls in wheelchairs with cerebral palsy.
00:42:46.000I'm pretty upset about the whole thing.
00:43:15.000So it is of my understanding that the DC no-fly zone It's protected by automated missile batteries that were approved under Ike, and then put into place under LBJ and Nixon, and worked on and updated under Reagan.
00:43:35.000Now, these systems are supposed to automatically fire on any jet that flies into the no-fly zone, and the fail-safes on them, from what I understand, are, you know, autonomous.
00:43:48.000In other words, no one can shut them down.
00:43:50.000So in the event of a war, you know, something happens that nothing can fly in and basically do what supposedly happened on 9-11.
00:43:58.000The only thing that can go into the no-fly zone is something with a military transponder on it.
00:44:08.000Well, I mean, I gotta take your point.
00:44:10.000I mean, that's the word on the street.
00:44:12.000I am baffled by that as well, but I think the mystery may be solved in the fact that Scott Fry signs that memo prior to 9-11, and I mean, just a couple months prior, putting shoot-down orders in the hands of Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, and George Bush solely.
00:44:28.000So, colonels and other commanders that would have been able to take out an aircraft, just like you said, with no problem, they took that away.
00:46:34.000That was actually the only way that he could have, um, basically, um, you know, framing because he was pretty smart in doing so and it seemed pretty coordinated and let me get this straight this guy is like a much bigger guy than you yes he's much bigger He was like 400-something pounds.
00:46:54.000Yeah, because, you know, again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you're not a very physically intimidating guy.
00:46:58.000I mean, you're a skinny young guy who, again, you didn't scream any obscenities, did you?
00:47:03.000I mean, you were talking about 9-11 and the Bush crimes.
00:47:06.000Well, yeah, I was actually intellectually screaming out my statement.
00:47:42.000I mean, if they're going to You know, take off the meaning of our sign and say we disrespect the victim's family when the sign is about the victim's family.
00:47:52.000Then, you know, you could expect anything from these morons.
00:47:56.000It's very scary and I honestly believe that you should sue for libel for this because this is going to be on Michelle Malkin's site, but it's going to be a talking point on her radio program, okay?
00:48:08.000And you can bet that later today on Fox News you're going to see this on Hannity, you're going to see it on O'Reilly, you're going to see it in the mainstream media, you might even see it on MSNBC and CNN, folks.
00:48:21.000Listen, Fox is over the top, no doubt, but those other guys ain't your friends either.
00:48:26.000They're just as culpable, they're just as guilty, and they're going to propagate this story about a 9-11 truth activist who believes in non-violent peaceful protest, exercises his First Amendment, He gets assaulted.
00:49:01.000Well, that's just kind of the symbolism that goes on.
00:49:06.000The skum are always awarded heroes, and this is a fan of Dick Cheney and the Bush crime syndicate, and there's nothing else you could expect from him.
00:49:16.000He's not a, again, basically a character assassinator, but he does have a sheep-alike mind.
00:49:24.000No more smarter than, I believe, a child.
00:49:28.000Now, when did they finally release you?
00:49:30.000Because, as I knew yesterday, you were still incarcerated?
00:49:48.000What did they formally charge you with?
00:49:50.000The charges, basically, Assault in a third degree. - Mm-hmm. - Assault on the person, on the man that they said had a split lip.
00:50:00.000I don't know how he had the split lip because basically I didn't even have time to even defend myself because police and Secret Service was on me so fast.
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00:54:59.000So Gary, you know, I want to take a couple callers at the very end here, but why don't you just, you know, give us the whole thing really in a nutshell one more time.
00:55:08.000Yeah, well I was the one who exercised my freedom of speech to confront criminal elements and as soon as I stated my opinion, some people in the crowd didn't like what I was saying and one man actually used his handicapped daughter as an opportunity to give me trouble and basically do what he did.
00:55:31.000Um, he started off by putting his finger in my face.
00:56:44.000If there's lawyers out there today and he doesn't get in touch, you need to get in touch with InfoWars and Alex Jones and we'll try to help you out.
00:56:51.000I'm sure Alex is going to want you on the program tomorrow.
00:56:53.000This is going to be the talking point.
00:57:19.000We'll just make sure you've got to have... I hope you've got More than the one witness to the event that have given a statement because they'll bring him up against you.
00:57:33.000Well, so far I have around two, and I'm trying to talk to a lawyer so you can subpoena the close-to-the-television cameras if they run anything.
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