Alex Jones talks about the Bush basher and the neocon smear campaign against him. He also talks about how the police treat disabled people and how they treat them like guinea pigs. Alex Jones is an American conservative radio host and host of the Conspiracy Theories podcast.
00:00:28.000Part of the day yesterday to spend time with family.
00:00:31.000I do that occasionally And all Hades breaks loose while I was gone Welcome ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday the 25th day of April 2008 and we're gonna be live here for the next four hours from 11 a.m.
00:00:55.000And then, of course, I'm back Sundays from 4 to 6 p.m. live as well.
00:01:01.000So we do four hours a day, Monday through Friday, and then pop in for two hours on Sunday, which is a great asset because so many times major news is breaking over the weekend and that, well, as they say, the early bird gets the worm.
00:01:19.000Obviously, I'm going to talk about the New York Post headline yesterday, as predicted by Jason Burma sitting in yesterday doing a fabulous job.
00:01:28.000Fox News and others did pick up the slander, the lie, the fraud.
00:01:43.000And the neocon websites are calling for his death.
00:01:47.000For hit teams to go get him, and even after video came out, and even after eyewitnesses came out, that it was all a lie, they are now on the message board saying, so what if it's a lie?
00:02:45.000And we're very upset about what's happening to our beloved Republic, what's happening to our currency, what's happening to our national name.
00:02:55.000And I don't even really get mad at the neocon minions anymore.
00:03:47.000And then they suddenly looked at me like I was a guinea pig that hadn't been declawed and had my eyeballs gouged out.
00:03:55.000They're like big python snakes and the normal citizen is like a guinea pig that's had its legs removed, its eyes removed, its teeth removed.
00:04:04.000And they just dropped the furry ball in for the snake to eat it because the general public has been told to trust cops.
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00:08:19.000We were going to come in hot on this Friday edition with an hour-long economic discussion with him, but with this We Are Change frame-up operation that we're witnessing, I have suspended that guest until next week, but there's a silver lining.
00:08:36.000He'll be with us for two hours to go over the history of Modern Banking, the Federal Reserve, and where we're going, what they're engineering right now.
00:08:44.000Jack McClam to talk about The fusion centers the martial law drills Nationwide with the police admit they're getting ready for martial law Where they go out and violate the entire public's fourth and fifth amendment randomly searching everyone all over the country Jack will be with us for a full hour in the second hour Then William Lewis for 30 minutes popping in to finish up talking about his new film Washington you're fired already sending shockwaves across the nation former Reuters
00:09:15.000reporter, award-winning researcher, historian, also very controversial, Michael Hoffman.
00:09:22.000We're going to have him back up the next few months to talk about different subjects he covers, but today he'll be discussing some very important information.
00:09:31.000And the Nobel Prize winner for the last 30 minutes, Joseph Stiglitz.
00:09:35.000Uh, has joined us two times in the past.
00:09:37.000He'll be joining us again today to talk about exactly what's happening with the world economy and his prediction, uh, last January on this radio show, uh, that we would go into a world depression if the, uh, central banks did not reverse their activities.
00:09:57.000We're going to have Richard Cook on, but I canceled him and moved him this morning.
00:10:02.000Because we need to cover what's happening.
00:10:05.000All right, let me just try to calmly cover all the points.
00:10:10.000Last night, reading about all this, watching it, reading the Fox News report, reading the Washington article, reading the story out of the New York Post, a bunch of news reporting on it, hundreds of things ran through my mind.
00:10:25.000Hundreds of different pieces of information of The dishonorable activity of the police, the corruption of the media, the way innocents are always framed, and the good guys in the history books set up to be the bad guys, and the bad guys are made to be the heroes.
00:12:12.000They then arrested a bunch of camera people, two camera people, assaulted the Discovery Channel award-winning cameraman, guys shot for, you know, Oscar-winning films and documentaries, Etienne D'Avignon.
00:12:28.000They just ran across the street to attack him, had a police riot, took me to jail, and they marched me in to the classic New York precinct, and the Southern precinct, as they call it, the Southern Police Office there in Manhattan, the South Office.
00:12:46.000They marched me up to the big desk and the Grand Inquisitor behind it on his power trip.
00:12:50.000A job where he gets to, you know, indulges his petty power trip at 24 hours a day.
00:12:56.000Most of us would be embarrassed to engage in one-tenth of this type of just, just, just absolute...
00:13:02.000It's like a small child dressing up in a general's outfit and walking around giving stuffed animals orders.
00:13:34.000And right in front of everybody and God, the cops said, he hit an officer.
00:13:41.000And I just put my head down for about a minute while they laughed and jeered and they had a little psycho celebration there for a moment of the setting me up.
00:15:56.000And it had an overflowing toilet with human feces all over the...
00:16:00.000Caked over, hanging over the side, on the floor, running out of the hall into a drain, out in the hall, and they put me in there, and I just felt sorry for him at that point.
00:17:58.000Um, but then I come out and a higher level captain or multiple captains there got the, the, the political officers, the guys in white, not in blue, uh, comes over and says, listen to me, you get them and you get them out of here.
00:18:14.000Or if you want to rock and roll, we're going to crack your heads.
00:18:16.000You go out there and you tell everybody to go, or it's rock and roll time, you understand?
00:18:21.000And the cop that had put the cuffs on me tight, and the cop that had wanted to frame me, was standing there looking at me mad, and I said, yeah.
00:18:29.000But I said, I want everybody to know something.
00:18:31.000You guys did wrong, and killer right here shouldn't have put the cuffs on me that tight.
00:18:36.000And they all laughed and said, killer!
00:18:39.000So I've never told that story exactly, you know, the full story.
00:18:43.000Now, that said, I read the newspapers every day, and I see not one, not two, but scores, more than a dozen, without looking every day, of police caught planting drugs on people, planting guns on people.
00:18:59.000Right here in Austin, they've been caught multiple times in the news.
00:19:03.000The famous case a few years ago in Dallas, where they arrested thousands of people.
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00:25:26.000I've watched many videos of him peacefully confronting people.
00:25:29.000In fact, I've even criticized Gary to his face, saying that he's too timid, too nice, that he lists so much information Uh, the last time was Bobby Kennedy Jr.
00:25:45.000Uh, just a few months ago, you could see Gary.
00:25:58.000You can see him just asking Mr. Kennedy a question.
00:26:04.000Mr. Kennedy sidesteps it, but Gary says, thank you.
00:26:07.000You can see Gary on the videotape talking to the Secret Service, being polite, going over to his free speech zone 50 yards away, and then he has to yell, you know, the majority of Americans believe the government's behind 9-11.
00:26:20.000How does it feel to know that your husband, your father, the people believe that he's responsible for it?
00:26:27.000And then he turns his camera off because he is walking away.
00:27:26.000But the sadder issue is that neocon minions, these poor people, who I know on average mean well, They just love to be lied to.
00:27:34.000They're like babies that'll eat poison if you give it to them.
00:27:39.000I mean to see how Gary was set up and to have all these eyewitnesses saying the same thing.
00:27:47.000Gary's walking away down the sidewalk and here comes this guy veering towards him openly aiming at the wheelchair at him runs into him and then starts wailing on him with his wife and other Uh, women in the area trying to pull him off of Gary, who weighs like 145 pounds.
00:28:04.000This guy, and we've seen his photo, is like 6'5", huge belly, over 400 pounds.
00:28:34.000And, uh, Gary asked the police when the guy got in his face the first time, when he was yelling, to please get him to stop, and they wouldn't.
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00:36:16.000Why are you selling out our sovereignty?
00:36:18.000To the European Parliament and the guy pushes got a guy in the back shoves him in the face on video Chases a guy who runs from him Tackles him falls to the ground They call the police the police come and the Sunday Times of London also owned by Rupert Murdoch This is the New York Post is are you seeing a pattern here?
00:36:40.000Puts out a headline after they call him and I say yeah, we hear you have video and they say yeah We have we're uploading it now.
00:36:45.000Do you wanna hear the audio and they said no?
00:36:47.000And they said well that the police and we call the police and they said we know and then they wrote an article Saying that the hoodlums Anti-eu hoodlums didn't mention their names see because they don't want to get sued you can always tell the telltale signs You know,
00:37:05.000headline that the Member of Parliament attacked by anti-EU gang, and it said that the innocent man was walking down the street alone, that the thugs tackled him, attacked him, stole his bag, beat him severely.
00:37:24.000I was having dinner with my parents last night, and they talked about how they remembered Being in the EU a few years ago, and how there were signs up in Greece saying that it was illegal to criticize the EU.
00:37:36.000Now, that's been in the news, but I mean, this is who we're dealing with.
00:39:49.000They said that they do it to raise security and to heighten the police's, you know, frostiness, but then they always announced it as a real attack.
00:39:57.000A firecracker that barely bent the hinge of the door.
00:40:02.000And then later the police quote said the door was jammed, so they crowbarred it open, and then the media showed images of that, the door all ripped open.
00:40:10.000So they even engage in doctoring of the blast.
00:40:14.000We then see Fox, CNN, MSNBC, every channel.
00:40:59.000They've got groups linked on the site that say throw blood on the cops, bags of blood, that say have shields, have weapons, smash citizens cameras.
00:41:10.000Now, Limbaugh comes out and says, Operation Chaos.
00:41:30.000We have news articles where they admit that 50 thugs, we have video of them at the training camp, funded by a U.S. government-funded foundation.
00:41:39.000Bus them in from Portland at a training camp.
00:42:23.000They were listening a day and a half ago when I said on air, uh oh, we've said on air that we don't have video of the assault, now you're gonna see hit pieces in the media.
00:42:43.000The New York Post, by the way, it's come out, actually shakes down Hollywood stars and makes them pay huge hundreds of thousands of dollars apiece to the paper.
00:43:26.000As you can see on the video after, they're all talking, all doing the setup, you know, they all get together to make up their big lie.
00:43:32.000It's so disgusting to see that type of conspiracy in action, that attack on America's heart and soul and core, and on the name and image of police.
00:43:45.000But the New York Post knows that that means accidental.
00:43:48.000They exaggerated it into, he savagely beat the girl in the wheelchair over and over again.
00:43:53.000And then they mentioned, oh, but she wasn't hurt.
00:43:56.000Now, the real witnesses all say, including people that we didn't even know we've now gotten their names of, said, yeah, the girl was crying.
00:44:49.000But right now, you need to just get them together and say, hey, will you let me look at it at least?
00:44:55.000And a lot of times, these security guards, maybe a gas station, maybe a restaurant, you hit one of them, you're going to be able to probably get it.
00:45:02.000And then we've got them, we've got them.
00:45:05.000And see, we'll then expose how they're liars, just like we have the video of them lying about We Are Change Ireland.
00:45:12.000This guy's chasing them and assaulting them.
00:45:18.000And the media turns it into, member of parliament viciously attacked by anti-EU group.
00:45:25.000Now they're never saying we are changed because they're afraid of it, they know it's caught fire, so they're always trying to isolate it.
00:45:32.000So they've decided to say anti-EU group.
00:45:36.000And this is what was said inside the Defense Intelligence Agency, inside the CIA, inside the CBS broadcast center that gives all the orders to Fox.
00:45:48.000This is what Viacom Intel operatives made the decision to do.
00:45:51.000Now what you're hearing is exactly what was said.
00:45:55.000If we can't beat these people, and it's clear it's going to continue to spread, this activism, we're going to mislabel each event and recycle it as propaganda against them.
00:46:07.000Don't say their names, the memo went out, and say whatever the group is, whatever your agenda is in your sector.
00:46:13.000In the UK, In the Emerald Isle, it is the European Union integration of Ireland and England, and Scotland.
00:46:24.000So there you will say it is anti-EU gang.
00:46:28.000Use the term gang, because it's one of those double-use terms.
00:46:31.000You can't get sued for calling them a gang, because five guys out for a walk, or a soccer game, you know, is a gang.
00:46:41.000They'll call somebody that blows up a church an extremist, which is too small a word They should be terrorists, but then they can later call someone who's innocent an extremist.
00:48:35.000Some of you can't go inside and the others of you stay outside.
00:48:39.000You've also got to know with these high-value targets in the info war going out and confronting them that you get around any of the vice presidents, as I'm told they did last night, Len Cheney, or any of the president's women, that you're in danger of them shooting you and saying you had a gun.
00:48:56.000I mean, they wanted, Nixon wanted to bomb Uh, the, uh, Republican National Convention.
00:49:53.000I was straight-up framed, you know, in the meaning of the word.
00:49:56.000A 500-pound guy and a 145-pound guy, you know, there's a big difference.
00:50:03.000And when you have basically all the witnesses are saying that this guy was attacking me, and then they switch their stories saying that they're trying to get me off of their daughter, that's a contradiction right there in BYU.
00:50:17.000How do you think, how do you think that, exactly, at first it wasn't the daughter, it was you and him fighting, now it's, I mean, what do you want to say to the officers that are framing you?
00:50:26.000I think that they have a very low IQ and they can't, just how they couldn't even handcuff me, they can't even put a story together.
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00:53:54.000These truthers are exactly the kind of people who want to rock this nation's foundation terrace apart and plant the seeds of dissatisfaction in all of us.
00:54:05.000By the time the government figures it out, you'll be in a hole for 30 days.
00:54:08.000Which is why I believe these guys are dangerous.
00:54:10.000I believe these guys are anarchists that are looking to tear us apart.
00:54:16.000I mean, this is the kind of group that a Timothy McVeigh would come from.
00:54:21.000This kind of propaganda is hurtful to those who lost loved ones on 9-11 and damaging to America's image abroad.
00:54:28.000But the more serious matter is the rise of dangerous radicals roaming the country unchallenged, infringing on freedom of speech, disrupting worship, and insulting decent people.
00:54:38.000stop providing comfort comfort to terrorists and others who would harm americans including our own family the and if things don't change
00:54:54.000soon he will oh man has invented his doom first step was touching the moon now there's a woman on my block should just sit there as the night grows still should say who gonna take away his license to kill By the way, that's about three months, four months old.
00:55:22.000That's not even all the latest ones, where Geraldo says we're bomber, terrorist, and we're gonna bomb, then magically it happens.
00:55:48.000We have the same thing being said by other shows going back to Gary and then bringing up Diane and Luke Rudowsky you guys just jump at any time Gary on the record here just just in summation is this correct to say he followed you with a wheelchair rammed you with it Then attacks you you never even fought back the witnesses say and the police framed you Yeah,
00:56:18.000him the camera out of my hand when you hear me saying get out of my face obviously i was talking to him not not not a wheelchair bound door that can be and by the way i paid i paid for that camera it is broken uh the neocons by the way luke online just say we're liars they have no evidence and they defend their lying system luke radowski yeah i'm
00:56:40.000I'm right here and it's just incredible what's going on right now and the facade of the media basically calling us Not only terrorists, but right now that we're assaulting wheelchaired girls.
00:57:21.000You could see Gary not saying one curse word and then saying, get away from me, to that guy who was putting his finger in his face, who wanted an altercation, who wanted a fight, who was smiling right before this happened.
00:57:34.000You know, this is just a blatant attack on our movement, on our message of truth and love.
00:57:40.000Well, we need to continue to hurt Rupert Murdoch, the lying scum.
00:57:44.000To prove that he lies, we have his other paper, the Sunday Times, where they say that they stole the bag, assaulted the guy, when he was the one doing that, the Member of Parliament.
01:00:02.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
01:00:06.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:00:14.000I was going to have Officer Jack McClam, the most highly decorated police officer in Phoenix, Arizona history, on with us for the full hour to talk about how the police now admit that they're doing martial law, live-action drills, swarming citizens, arresting hundreds of people, giving out thousands of parking tickets, saying that it's terrorism.
01:00:36.000Uh, we have billboards and signs and news articles.
01:00:39.000Police everywhere are now saying crime is terror, and then you don't get due process.
01:00:44.000Uh, but we're gonna talk about that in the second half of this hour with him.
01:00:47.000In the first half of this hour when he joins us in the next segment, let's go ahead and get him online.
01:00:51.000I want him to be able to talk to, uh, Gary, uh, Tallis, uh, who got set up in New York, uh, Diane Libson and Luke Radowski.
01:00:59.000Uh, but Diane Libson, I appreciate you holding while Gary and I and Luke were covering what happened.
01:01:03.000For stations that just joined us, New York Post, Uh, Fox News, they're all reporting the headline, Bush Basher smashes disabled teen.
01:01:14.000Smashes! Uh, and then it just says that he brutally assaulted her like some type of wild vampire in her wheelchair.
01:01:22.000None of that's on the video, up to the point they smash the camera, they assault him.
01:01:28.000And, uh, we're gonna get the CCTV camera, and the fact that the police would frame him I mean, we have Luke with the police coming up saying he's got bombs, and saying, we know you don't have bombs, but we're gonna say you do!
01:02:27.000I think that it just shows how desperate the Rupert Murdoch and media is, that they would accuse Gary of doing something that the most thug would not do.
01:03:56.000I'm just glad that Gary's not alone in this.
01:03:58.000I'm glad that Gary has a national movement and people who are concerned about him because it's the people who are alone that they really prey on.
01:04:05.000Well, in a nutshell, we're about to go to break, come back with Officer Jack McClam.
01:04:08.000When we come back, And try to back off your phone.
01:04:12.000We really appreciate you spending time with us.
01:04:13.000In five minutes when we get back, tell Jack McClam what you witnessed, what you saw happen, and I want to get Officer Jack McClam, who's a real police officer, who makes our officers look good, not bad, get his take on this high treason.
01:04:26.000And then we'll get more from German Tallis, known as Gary, and Luke Radowski, WeAreChange.org.
01:04:32.000We are under attack, ladies and gentlemen.
01:04:35.000We have them on video with the police saying to Luke, we're going to frame you with bombs.
01:04:41.000Saying on video, with their faces, we're going to frame you.
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01:08:02.000Ladies and gentlemen, this is not about a young man who's 145 pounds being attacked by a 400-plus pound man, 6'5", you know, probably 500 pounds, who's tied in with New York construction and the mayor and the World Trade Center and the rest of it.
01:08:40.000We have video of them walking up to Luke with police on video for standing with a sign saying World Trade Center 7 was a controlled demolition.
01:08:47.000And they say, Larry Silverstein doesn't like you being here, we're gonna show you got a bomb, and you'll go to jail for 30 days before they find out you're not.
01:08:55.000And then the thugs order the police to grab his camera, they grab it from him, but then for some reason they give it back and tell him to leave.
01:09:05.000Jack McClam, founder of police and military against the New World Order, now around for almost 30 years, your organization, most decorated police officer in Phoenix, Arizona history, cop of the year twice, Until you found out about government drug dealing and violations of the Bill of Rights and the rest of it went public.
01:09:21.000How do these police, more and more, we know all officers and all departments aren't like this, but more and more it's happening, you know, Dallas police throwing bags of chalk and nice cars and taking them, saying it's cocaine.
01:09:33.000How, I mean, I know they're criminals, but how do they just frame innocent people over and over and over again?
01:09:44.000Brother, they're being trained that way.
01:09:46.000I was an academy instructor for five years, and I saw this coming in that not only were they separating the police officers psychologically from the public by telling them that if you ever need help,
01:10:02.000a citizen will never help you, you can only trust other officers, but they were psychologically training them Yes.
01:10:18.000long as it promotes the end that you're after.
01:10:22.000And so I saw that before I was injured in the line of duty and had to take a medical retirement.
01:10:27.000And also, brother, we saw, myself and other officers, were watching the most insidious, the most criminal, the most evil officers be Being promoted up to the ranks, to the top of the department.
01:11:21.000The criminals at the very top of our government want criminal judges.
01:11:26.000And so, if you're a prosecutor and prove that you're willing to shoot your mother for a nickel and take bets on which way she'll fall, Do anything criminal, you get promoted up to the judgeship.
01:11:36.000That's what Johnny Satan Sutton is trying to do, impress Bush enough to get a judgeship by running our border patrol agents into prison, railroading them.
01:11:46.000And we saw that in the Phoenix Police Department.
01:11:49.000Our chief of police was a murderer and got away with it, Ruben Ortega.
01:11:55.000Chief Ruben Ortega was a murderer and he got away with it and he promoted up to the judgeship.
01:12:01.000Through the ranks, the most evil, the most criminal police officers he could find, because at the very top of the system, the federal and even at the governorships of the states, they promote the most evil, most corrupt, and most criminal politicians.
01:12:21.000Now, that's not just so they're criminals and will follow orders and do bad things, it's so if they ever need to burn them, they've also got dirt on them.
01:12:38.000She had a still camera, got a photo of them, of the cops having to restrain this huge individual who attacked him.
01:12:46.000I want to bring up Diane Libson, who is one of the witnesses to what happened.
01:12:51.000Diane, in a nutshell, tell Officer Jack McClam what you witnessed and then now what the media is saying.
01:12:57.000Okay, there was a small amount of people waiting for Barbara and Jenna Bush to come out of a 92nd Street Y. It was on a side entrance.
01:13:08.000Gary was exercising his right of free speech.
01:13:10.000He was talking to a crowd, and the crowd was rather hostile to him.
01:13:13.000But the most hostile was this man, I guess, in the blue jacket, who made threatening gestures at Gary, at one point even cocking his fist at Gary, and he had this I think so.
01:13:26.000like he wanted, you know, he wanted violence.
01:13:29.000So then Barbara and Jenna Bush got into their car.
01:13:35.000As they're walking into the waiting van, Gary mentioned something about 9-11 to him.
01:13:41.000Of course, he had to shout because they were, you know, we couldn't get that close to them.
01:13:45.000Okay, now it's all over and everybody's kind of like walking away up the street.
01:13:50.000And I noticed that this man, instead of walking straight up the street, he's veering into the building where Gary is.
01:13:59.000Next thing I know, this man is shouting that Gary has touched his daughter, and he's pummeling Gary.
01:14:06.000Um... He's pummeling Gary, you know, quite...
01:14:09.000He got in a lot of blows, and I did not see Gary be able to defend himself at all.
01:14:14.000He had Gary in a corner, like a doorway, so that Gary was kind of pinned in there.
01:14:19.000And, you know, I don't think Gary would have even had a chance to, like, you know, have the momentum to even be able to defend himself.
01:14:28.000This man's wife is saying to her husband, stop, stop, stop.
01:14:34.000So, of course, that, you know, that totally contradicts the story that she later told.
01:15:54.000fired one of the reasons i was the most highly decorated officer but i was also the most fired officer in the phoenix police department and one of the reasons was because i refused to go along with the fact that the new policy was that if you had a patriot get out of the out of his car on a traffic stop or something One of the cops there would fall down and faint like he had been pushed,
01:16:19.000and now they can charge the patriot with a felony of pushing down the police officer.
01:16:26.000Let's be clear, you were told to frame people?
01:16:29.000Yeah, told to frame people, that's right.
01:16:32.000And things like you'd have a gun in your car out in plain sight, And when they pull you over, if they didn't like you, if you're one of these patriots, Christian patriots or something, they would say to themselves, and I was there, OK, we're going to say his jacket was under his gun and get him for a felony of carrying this gun concealed.
01:16:54.000And I'd say, no, you're not going to do that, because I'm going to tell.
01:16:58.000You know, I'm going to expose you if you do these things.
01:17:01.000And, of course, that led to one of my firings.
01:17:06.000So, today, this has been 20 years ago since I was a cop.
01:17:10.000So today, it's just, as I've seen and talked to police officers all across this country, it's just totally out of hand now that they've got the real criminals in uniform across America, and especially...
01:17:22.000But Jack, I mean, here's the question.
01:17:24.000How would a cop feel good about pulling a citizen over in Arizona, where as long as you have the gun out, it's legal?
01:17:32.000How do they all day and all night ruin lives with such enjoyment?
01:17:37.000Well, it's the unjustified means political philosophy that we're taught in the police academies.
01:18:15.000Yes, he needs a very good attorney because what they're going to try to do, the criminal judge, judges are promoted too on how criminal they are.
01:18:25.000They have them practice as a prosecutor.
01:19:05.000They want to be promoted up to judgeships themselves, so they're not going to go hard against the judge or the prosecutor in these cases when they try to throw out that evidence that you try to present the, you know, the cameras, the tapes Stay there, Jack McClam.
01:19:20.000I want to come back in a final segment with Gary and Luke.
01:19:23.000Luke has now gone and confronted Lynne Chaney last night.
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01:24:59.000Well, I guess it's all up to me getting a good attorney and I have to do a lot of research.
01:25:06.000I think I have some information regarding this guy's criminal background.
01:25:09.000I heard money laundering on his record and he was involved in some city scandal.
01:25:16.000Let's say this, a guy by the same name who fits the description, that's in Associated Press, it's in New York Daily News, and that we're investigating now.
01:25:26.000Right. It just seems like an open and shut case, but it's basically up to the attorney's style of presenting the evidence, which points to a clear frame of.
01:25:42.000Well, all the officers are going to lie on the witness stand and say that he threw a punch at them or tried to kick them or something.
01:26:02.000Uh, in order for them to get away with beating him.
01:26:06.000Um, and, uh, I just want to say to, uh, these young men, gallant young men there, that if you can't get a great attorney to work with you, get one out of the state.
01:26:18.000Because, uh, what we found is the state attorneys all go to the same clubs many times in Masonic Lodge with the, uh, the judges, and they're all buddies.
01:26:29.000And the prosecutors and defense attorneys.
01:26:33.000And so you definitely, if you can, get one out of the state that has a license to practice in your state so they're not a part of the good old boys club there.
01:26:43.000And also do a background check on this guy who I suspect is a government agent that is the one that attacked him.
01:26:53.000You know, and that would be good if you could get that information to prove that he was a government agent.
01:27:23.000They really are, and they have every reason to be scared of us, because we're exposing their lie.
01:27:31.000And when we get rid of that lie, we have everything, they have everything to lose.
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01:33:46.000I know a lot of cops are actually fans of the show and know the truth, but a lot of other ones are just these power-mad psychopaths, and they're recruiting them, as Jack said.
01:33:55.000In closing, with Gary Tallis, who was assaulted and set up and framed, Diane Lipson and Luke Radowski, each of you, a two-minute closing statement.
01:34:06.000Diane Lipson, I would like for this person who assaulted Gary to know that the New World Order does not care about his handicapped daughter, and the New World Order will sacrifice his handicapped daughter.
01:34:19.000I want him to know who he's defending.
01:34:41.000You know, we see the evidence of tyranny in the newspapers, we read about it in legislation, but I challenge listeners, go out there like Diane and others have done, see it for yourself, up close.
01:35:24.000How important is really experiencing this, Jack?
01:35:27.000Well, it's very much so, brother, because if you're not being persecuted at this time in our society, you better check your parameters because you're not getting the right things done.
01:35:41.000As God said in Matthew 5.11, Blessed are ye when men revile you and persecute you and say all manner of evil things against you falsely for my sake.
01:35:51.000So if you're not being persecuted at this time,
01:36:07.000So I'm honored to know these guys there, and I would ask any attorneys out there listening to this program to please get a hold of them, if you can be unbiased and not side with the Bar Association and so forth.
01:36:23.000Please get a hold of them because they need some good attorneys that can go up against the evil judge and the evil prosecutor that are going to try to hold their evidence out of the jury seeing that evidence.
01:36:34.000Absolutely. Diane Lipson, thank you for your eyewitness testimony.
01:36:38.000Thank you for the photos you took of the police restraining the madman.
01:36:53.000What the provocateur attack on us is really, it really is.
01:36:57.000And it's just trying to destroy our name and our message and everything we've done for all 9-11 victims' family members and all 9-11 sick and dying first responders, which we have been working tirelessly for.
01:38:05.000We started those congressional hearings by confronting Dennis Kucinich, who was a presidential candidate, with David Miller, who was a sick and dying first responder.
01:38:43.000And they started screening out Christians, anybody with high moral values, they would screen out of the recruitment process.
01:38:52.000And I had a lot to do with that because I was a born-again Christian and refused flat out to do anything immoral or unlawful or unconstitutional.
01:39:00.000And so that's right there in the Phoenix Police Department, they start ruling out anybody with a high moral character, they wouldn't hire them.
01:39:08.000So it's sad, but that's the status quo today.
01:39:12.000And by the way, we're getting some feedback there.
01:39:15.000By the way, they also trick the officers.
01:39:18.000They say, you're a good man, aren't you?
01:39:21.000Would you do this to your wife, your children?
01:39:23.000They have them answer that 600 and something question, psychological evaluation, that catches them in lies, that really finds out your true moral compass.
01:39:32.000And, I mean, I had the head of the Texas...
01:39:37.000Retired shortly after the head of the Texas federal marshals the whole division.
01:39:41.000It's actually several states the area and He told me he said don't become a cop unless you're a criminal now that was in 1994 when I was in college Jack why would the friends of my dad my dad's patient why would he?
01:40:01.000Asked me to come to the office when he heard that I was thinking about becoming a cop was just one of the things I was thinking about Why would he ask that I meet with him and then spend five minutes with me telling me, don't become an officer unless you're a criminal.
01:41:22.000I went to lunch with my dear wife yesterday and I'm sitting in there and in walks the Second-in-command of our sheriff's department here in Idaho County and he's got an earring in and tattoos up and down his arms big heavy guy and I mean he looks just like a guy out of prison and Tell my wife about I said man if I were to guess this guy's a Felon
01:41:54.000and a You know, and he's in the sheriff's department.
01:41:57.000Well, we knew this ten years ago, but now mainstream media admits this week.
01:42:01.000Masses of felons in police departments and the military.
01:42:10.000Alex, I was told by one of our intel people six months ago that the real president of the United States, Cheney, and his puppet, boy George Bush, are bringing back Hardcore, mass-murdering mercenaries from Iraq that's just dressed up as Sunnis and blowing up Shiites and dressed up as Shiites and blowing up Sunnis in the community,
01:42:38.000killing them to start the civil war over there.
01:42:41.000And they're bringing them back, one, for each county in America to be over the county, to rule over the county.
01:42:49.000Uh, even over the sheriff in these counties.
01:42:52.000Of course, nowadays, they're making the sheriff...
01:43:02.000That's it, and that's these hardcore, mass-murdering mercenaries that are bringing back these, uh, special forces guys from 40 different nations that they have over here right now.
01:43:11.000And by the way, there are hundreds of videos of them just sitting off the road shooting families for fun.
01:43:38.000Yeah, I calmly walked up to her and I asked her if I could ask her a question.
01:43:42.000And then I said, I recently spoke to Norman Mineta, the former Secretary of Transportation, and on the morning of 9-11, he places you and Dick Cheney in the presidential bunker at 925 AM.
01:43:52.000And at this point, she looked at me, you could see fear in her eyes, and she just started running away like a little coward.
01:43:58.000Later, I came back to her again, and I was like, Ms. Wynn, please, the 9-11 victim's family members deserve to know what happened in that bunker on the morning of 9-11.
01:44:06.000And she just looked at me, and she just looked away.
01:44:09.000Well, Hamilton, the head of the committee, ... admits that it's true that Cheney was there and lied about it, and Norman Mineta's reported, so we know they're lying.
01:44:18.000Not only that, but you have Jason Burmiss who said yesterday, because of Newsday, that it was Dick Cheney who gave Rudolph Giuliani the warnings that the buildings were going to collapse.
01:44:27.000Yeah, we've got that in the new film we're making.
01:44:29.000Exactly, and this is just ridiculous, and she doesn't want to answer those questions.
01:45:07.000Look, Will, I commend what you're doing.
01:45:10.000I'm just saying, they have these weird mafia rules where confronting the men is fine.
01:45:15.000Well, I'm going to pull the article up.
01:45:17.000Barbara Bush said, six years ago, we have the, it's on M4s, I remember writing the story, it's written by me.
01:45:25.000I don't write many, I've probably written a hundred, whereas Paul writes a hundred a month.
01:45:29.000And it's her on Larry King Live, she said, I want to tell everybody out there watching, do anything to my daughters, report on them, talk about them, we're going to kill you.
01:45:37.000And Larry King goes, what do you mean we're going to kill you?
01:45:39.000And she goes, we're going to have you killed.
01:46:01.000So just, I'm just, and Luke, I'm not saying you're bad, I just as a friend have to tell you again, kind of like, you know, you're in dangerous waters, and I'm saying, danger Will Robinson, danger, danger!
01:46:12.000Say Luke, Luke, we're proud of you, very proud of you, but be cautious when you're messing with the women of these men, because they, uh, they will kill you for that, they truly will.
01:46:24.000Lynn Cheney is a known criminal, though.
01:46:43.000Yeah, they see things and hear things, and they have to get rid of them then.
01:46:49.000Because these people are totally involved in criminal activity and evil and perversion and everything and child molestation and all those things.
01:47:00.000And these maids and servants see these things and they have to be gotten rid of.
01:47:06.000Look, we're not preaching at you, Luke.
01:48:30.000I mean, they can win for a little bit, but it's going to topple up on them.
01:48:33.000I mean, they themselves have different factions fighting with each other.
01:48:37.000They don't have any rules, and they're going to wind up destroying each other, and that's just a fact.
01:48:43.000Basically, we are very strong because they are very corrupt, and we're taking their power away from them, or we're trying to get into something very positive.
01:48:51.000and taking a contract, and they are petrified and they're scared.
01:48:55.000Well, Jack, there is suddenly all over Austin and other cities I go to, anti-New World Order graffiti is everywhere, on people's houses, their cars, on people themselves.
01:49:20.000They're running scared, and they're trying to get this next false flag bombing of America accomplished in probably three cities, it looks like.
01:49:30.000So that the people are absolutely fearstruck and will go along with martial law and then it's all over.
01:49:36.000There's no Bill of Rights, no First Amendment, no nothing.
01:49:40.000And they're trying to push that as fast as they can so that we lose, you know.
01:49:48.000So I ask the people to pray constantly that God gives us more time and stays their hand and confounds them and doesn't allow them to pull off this next false flag bombing that'll Put us immediately under martial law and end the First Amendment, because we're winning!
01:50:04.000And praise God, there's more and more activists like this all the time, rising up and taking on this Antichrist world government system, and it's scaring them to death.
01:50:15.000They're trying to move as fast as they can.
01:50:18.000And some of us will lose the battles, but we're going to win the war with God's help in the end.
01:50:29.000And, Jack, you've got a lot of intel sources in military and in law enforcement.
01:50:33.000In the next segment, I want to get your analysis on what we're facing, what they're gearing up for, these martial law drills they're doing all over the country, calling all crime terror, randomly searching people on street corners.
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01:55:14.000But going back to Jack, Jack, I know you probably saw it last week and the week before that, all over the country, they had, we have the police press release, what they called terrorism sweeps, and then it says, they say, we were out fighting terrorists, that's anyone with drugs, guns, or traffic violations, and then it listed How they gave out thousands of different tickets to people.
01:55:40.000It was in the Tennessee papers, other papers.
01:55:43.000I saw it happening in Austin before I even saw it in the news and knew it was some type of sweep.
01:55:50.000That was Operation Sudden Impact and it's happening all over the country, Alex.
01:55:56.000We hear from our law enforcement people, federal, state, and local here at our Two police and military associations, and everything now is geared towards martial law and anti-terrorism.
01:56:10.000By the way, the police are saying that in news articles.
01:56:15.000And what this does in these news articles is it keeps the terror in the minds of all All right.
01:56:27.000They're practicing anti-terrorism in our town and so forth, because it just scares them when they see that word terrorism, and they keep it in there, and the people seem to go along with it today.
01:56:39.000But, of course, more and more people are waking up, especially our soldiers, brother.
01:56:44.000We're hearing from more of our soldiers all the time that are really, really upset, because they're supposed to be in Iraq bringing freedom to the Iraqis, And their relatives, moms and dads and wives and all, are writing to them in Iraq and telling them how that we're losing our freedoms here and they're locking us down under this anti-terrorism facade.
01:57:10.000And many of our soldiers are getting very, very upset about this.
01:57:16.000Well, Jack, I mean, how obvious is it when it's 50 federal agencies in one city randomly searching cars and taking you to jail or giving you tickets, and then they put up billboards saying crime is terror?
01:59:59.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
02:00:03.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
02:00:08.000All right, Jack's been with us about 15 minutes into the hour, then we got William Lewis popping in because I wanted to finish breaking down his amazing new film, Washington, You're Fired, available at InfoWars.com.
02:00:19.000But Jack, let me just play the Rush Limbaugh.
02:00:24.000By the way, NBC, ABC, here's their headlines.
02:00:27.000Rush Limbaugh calling for riots in Denver.
02:02:10.000I mean, I knew this decades ago, but now it's on the news.
02:02:14.000Recreate 68 has subgroups that say throw blood on cops, attack other people, break cameras, wear armor.
02:02:21.000They're linked back to big foundation groups that have staged this before.
02:02:24.000Jack, when we have the left and the right in the staged paradigm wanting riots there, that'll really be used to crack down on further free speech.
02:02:33.000What's your analysis of what you just heard?
02:02:39.000As you know, Alex, we've known for a long time that their whole point is to bring chaos, and they can crack down more and more and more, and the people, many times using the controlled press to tell them how bad it was and how many people were killed and injured and everything, the people will acquiesce many times to the crackdown.
02:03:01.000So it's out of, uh, chaos comes their new world order.
02:03:05.000So they want as much chaos as possible, and Russian Limbaugh is a part of this globalist Antichrist movement.
02:03:12.000And I want to add, if there are bombings, deaths, killings, he's not going to get in trouble.
02:03:16.000If you or I got on air and said, we need riots, or we need to attack police like these leftists are saying, we'd be arrested and we should be.
02:03:24.000Because that's not free speech, that's calling for crime.
02:03:39.000attaboy you know good boy good boy and he he's uh...
02:03:43.000he's hoping and and these guys are so foolish uh...
02:03:47.000alex the police officers and soldiers the russian limbaugh they think they're going to be part of the super rich in this world the the cast system of the super rich in the super poor But they're fools.
02:04:01.000They're going to be slaves, just like the rest of us that aren't super rich, that have $50 billion to $100 billion.
02:04:09.000You're not going to be part of the super rich, and whatever money you have, Rush Limbaugh, you're going to have taken from you because you're going to be part of the super poor.
02:04:18.000And they'll keep having him do what he's doing, but he's going to be a slave as much as we are.
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02:09:52.000I mean, I guess I'm a sap, but there's this thing of, it's not even something I was taught, I was taught it, of justice.
02:09:59.000Uh, you know, I mean, I guess watching the old Westerns, I thought that was reality.
02:10:02.000I mean, you know, I don't understand wanting to hurt innocent people.
02:10:06.000I don't understand wanting to set up people.
02:10:08.000I don't understand how, how you, and I know all cops don't do that.
02:10:11.000I mean, you know, I've run into nice cops when I was a teenager when I had beer with a date, and they'd take the six-pack out and pour it out.
02:10:18.000You know, I'm not saying that they're all bad.
02:10:21.000I've had cops pull me over when I'm speeding and say, Alex, don't speed, because I guess they like the show or whatever.
02:10:26.000You know, I'm not even saying that's a good thing.
02:10:28.000The point is, is that more and more they're scared.
02:11:41.000Yes, get all of those wonderful videos of Alex Jones, folks.
02:11:45.000Get a bunch of them and get them out because I'm doing that with my family as we speak.
02:11:52.000And they're fantastic for waking people up because it's all based on fact and evidence.
02:11:59.000And I'm using it with our police and soldiers because it is evidential and factual and based on reality.
02:12:09.000And so, but folks, do it now because we may not have this ability in the near future to get this kind of information out.
02:12:19.000If they're successful with this next false flag bombing of three cities that they And that's the intel you're getting?
02:12:29.000If they're successful, and we're asking all of our listeners to pray that God will just shut them down and destroy them with double destruction, like Daniel asked him to do and David asked him to do in the Bible, and he did it, pray these imprecatory prayers that God just shut them down and destroy them with double destruction.
02:12:48.000And even try to plan, if they even try to plan these false flag operations in America to put us under martial law.
02:12:55.000And God is in His heaven on His throne, Alex, and I think If enough of us do that, then God will grant us the blessing to go on and on and on.
02:13:05.000People make fun of us for this, but George Washington literally did that.
02:13:10.000And it's not our histories, even the Hessian histories of him at Trenton with hundreds of guys shooting at him and the bullets just flying through his hat everywhere, going right through his coat.
02:13:22.000But the problem is, Everything the New Older does touch goes to crap, but at the same time, maybe we deserve all this and 50 million abortions.
02:13:30.000Maybe we don't deserve it to be held back.
02:13:34.000The reason this is happening, of course, I read my Bible almost every night, and all throughout the history of the Bible, God's law and God's word, every time His people threw Him out, like we've done in America, we've thrown God out of this nation or set back and let it happen.
02:13:53.000That God has brought His enemies upon His own people to destroy them and enslave them, and that's exactly what's happening now.
02:14:00.000So we better impress God right away so that He'll put His hand of protection back on America and grant us victory over His enemies.
02:14:10.000And He will do that if we will just turn back to 2 Chronicles 7.14, get back on our knees and ask forgiveness.
02:14:18.000Well, I agree with you, but I think people like Luke, when they're threatening to frame him with bombs and send him to prison, I think that does impress God, because I know the spirit of these young people.
02:14:29.000They're doing this for the right reason, and they're not even afraid of death, Jack.
02:14:33.000And I'm not either, but I'm a little bit older than them, and I don't want to die.
02:14:36.000I want to keep fighting the enemy, but if I have to, I'm ready to die.
02:14:47.000You may already know this, but my assistant, Carol, just went to Montana to meet with Ron Paul.
02:14:55.000And all across the nation, at the universities, believe it or not, they have these students for Ron Paul coming together.
02:15:05.000And they had a thousand plus students there at the Montana University for Ron Paul.
02:15:12.000And it's really exciting to see these young people who have Most of them have Marxist college professors that try to turn them into New World Order citizens, but they're rebelling and they're going and they're trying to work to help get Ron Paul and his president.
02:15:29.000They see him as the only solution to getting our leadership back in this nation.
02:15:35.000And so it's very exciting to see our police officers and soldiers waking up as we hear from them here.
02:15:42.000And our students are beginning to wake up.
02:15:45.000Absolutely. And Jack, I've got to leave it.
02:16:03.000Well, it's police and military against the New World Order.
02:16:08.000And you put a hyphen between each word, police and military against the new world order dot com, or try this.
02:16:16.000Now the feds took down my website about a month ago after they railroaded my webmaster into prison for, you know, Chris Jones that snuck into Bohemian Grove and took pictures, and they've now railroaded- I mean, is it okay to talk about that?
02:16:33.000Well, then I may do that at a later date.
02:16:34.000I need to talk to him before he goes to prison.
02:16:36.000Yeah, they did set him up for going in.
02:16:38.000He's in jail right now, and today is his sentencing, so I would ask the people to pray for Chris Jones, that the judge will just let him out.
02:16:46.000A lot of us have written letters to the judge.
02:16:49.000Yeah, folks, for those that don't know, his name wasn't Kyle, it was Chris Jones, and They arrested him and said, boy, we're setting you up because you went in there.
02:16:56.000And people joke about me doing this stuff or say it was staged.
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02:25:19.000Tell us in a nutshell about Washington You're Fired.
02:25:23.000Well, in a nutshell, you'll note that there are Other documentaries out there, and I'm not talking about yours of course because you're great, but I'm saying that there are other documentaries out there that may not present solutions to the audience.
02:25:37.000Action items, things for them to go out and do and actually combat what we're talking about.
02:25:42.000And I think that's the real difference here, is we're seeing a lot of people buying this because they can show it to their friends, and not only does it convince their friends of what's going on, but it sort of lifts that We're good.
02:26:00.000them with some solutions that they can go out and actively participate in themselves.
02:26:05.000And you know as well as I do, we've got to keep active.
02:26:10.000No matter what you're doing, no matter whether you're showing this thing to friends, pulling it up on the Internet, sending out the emails, blogging about it, whatever, all of that helps to spread the message.
02:26:20.000All of that brings awareness to the project.
02:26:23.000All of that helps this movement, because that's what this is developing into, is a nationwide movement to restore the United States Constitution through Continue. In a nutshell.
02:26:37.000Continue. I mean, break down how you tie together this grid they're building to really prove to people that they're butchering the Bill of Rights.
02:26:44.000Because you show, this is what the Bill of Rights says, this is how our country's always operated, now they're changing that illegally.
02:26:53.000Well, you know, the U.S. Patriot Act is a good example.
02:26:56.000People know that it's bad, and then the rest of the people out there, the other 95%, just support it because the president said it was, you know, what we needed to protect the country, the law enforcement officers, everybody out there supports this U.S. Patriot Act, not even understanding that, first of all, it was drafted by Viet Dinh, who was a communist, and second of all, it's not even the original bill.
02:27:15.000It was switched at the last minute with the Viet Dinh communist version of the bill.
02:27:19.000So, I mean, this is a really good example.
02:27:21.000Some information that people may not be all that aware of.
02:27:27.000The USA Patriot Act removed about six of our amendments to the Bill of Rights.
02:27:38.000They continued with, we've got to remove habeas corpus, we've got to remove posse comitatus, we've got to invade your business records and your banking records and your medical privacy.
02:27:47.000I don't think that The American people have a really firm grasp that they are having every aspect of their right to privacy absolutely invaded, because that's what this is about.
02:27:58.000And more than that, your film focuses heavily in on that.
02:28:01.000It also focuses in on all the other police state aspects of PDD-51 and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
02:28:08.000I mean, they're openly building FEMA camps.
02:28:10.000They're openly saying they're getting ready for martial law.
02:28:12.000Everything we warn people about with the guests we had and covert experts and secret documents 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years ago, it's all come into fruition.
02:28:22.000You know, they're bringing the crops in now.
02:28:24.000I mean, this is a massive program, and your film covers that.
02:28:29.000Absolutely. And, you know, we got a great outpouring from the showing that we had last week on, or it was this past weekend, on Free Speech TV with people calling us up and just letting us know that they're going to support us and that they're going to get this information out there to other people.
02:28:48.000And email your friends and, you know, tell them what's going on, because obviously this is a documentary that's, you know, just a little different than some of the other ones we have to choose from out there.
02:29:01.000I'm going to have my producer call you and do that, and we really appreciate the fine work you've done with Washington, You're Fired, a film about political change in D.C., available right now at InfoWars.com.
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02:33:34.000A lot of people ask, why don't you have this person or that person on to talk about some of the same issues Mr. Hoffman does.
02:33:39.000I don't because it's done so shoddily and it's done so mindlessly that a lot of times those people it turns out are working for the other side.
02:33:51.000But we'll talk to Mr. Hoffman about a host of issues coming up here in just a few minutes.
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02:36:29.000I have researched a lot of the claims of Michael A. Hoffman, and he was educated at State University, New York College.
02:36:37.000He's a former reporter for the New York Bureau of the Associated Press and other publications.
02:36:41.000He's the author of several books and articles.
02:36:44.000Including the UK-based magazine, 14 Times, and he's moved from New York to Idaho in 1996.
02:36:53.000He now writes just on a whole host of subjects, the occult, the roots of Freemasonry, white slaves, you name it.
02:37:03.000We're going to be talking about some of that today with him.
02:37:07.000But like I said, I read other books by people similar to Mr. Hoffman.
02:37:11.000And it just turned out being kooky, or lies, or weird, or exaggerated, or, you know, just very vitriolic, very tribalistic, very isolated little niches who all fight with other camps that are even very similar to themselves.
02:37:28.000Just looking at his stuff, I just found that it's very well researched, and that's why even, you know, mainstream people that don't like Hoffman have to admit that he's accurate.
02:37:36.000So that's why we've got him here, because he's serious, and we really appreciate Thank you, Alex.
02:37:48.000A subject I've talked about because I've seen it in history books quite a bit, know quite a bit about it, but it seems like I tell the public about it and they think I'm lying.
02:37:58.000Then I read some of your writings about it on your site and some of the things you recommended, and it was even more pervasive than I thought, and that was white slaves.
02:38:08.000We never seem to hear about the white slaves.
02:38:11.000Let's start there, then get into the New World Order, the whole occult system, their twilight language, the things you discovered.
02:38:18.000Well, the first thing about white slaves is we need to differentiate between the modern understanding of it and then the frame of reference that I'm dealing with.
02:38:27.000Most people, when they hear about white slavery, they think you're talking about prostitution.
02:38:32.000And that's, of course, a valid area of study.
02:38:34.000We know that the Israelis have a large slave market there for people who have been sexually enslaved, but that's not my bailiwick.
02:38:44.000What I'm concerned about is the enslavement of whites, both in Great Britain and in colonial America.
02:38:50.000And you're absolutely right, this is an obscure, if not entirely unknown, theme in American history.
02:38:56.000The reasons for that are multifarious, but let's start at the beginning.
02:39:01.000At the beginning, You had a surplus population in England.
02:39:05.000Now, just the word surplus is a pejorative because the population of white people should not be any kind of a problem.
02:39:11.000If you have a large population, you should be able to utilize them, especially in a wealthy country such as Great Britain.
02:39:19.000But there's no question that the theoreticians of predatory capitalism saw the poor whites as being a surplus.
02:39:26.000And the question was what to do with them.
02:39:29.000Hence, Australia, New Zealand, the U.S., Canada.
02:39:32.000Yes, but we're going back to prior to the discovery and exploration of Canada and Australia, although Australia would become a white slave dumping ground after the American Revolution succeeded.
02:39:46.000But prior to that, when you saw the beginning of the enclosure laws, it started under Henry VIII as he began to take over the monastic lands and the lands that historically had represented the divide between the church And the king,
02:40:02.000and as he usurped that role for himself, you began to see avarice take hold in Great Britain as it seldom had in its past, and they began roping in and fencing in these large commons, as they were known, where... Hyper-feudalism!
02:40:19.000There would be large areas around each town that people communally used, and they upped the feudalism and even took that.
02:40:26.000Exactly, because feudalism, the term is also considered to be pejorative, but at least in the sense that the peasant in the Catholic Middle Ages of Great Britain was dressed in his own nice wool clothing, he had a sheep or a few sheep to raise, he had a standard of living that existed without usury and without inflation, and he was able to live a type of a life.
02:40:53.000Once predatory capitalism began to build, and it wasn't a sudden phenomenon, it was gradual, of course, and Henry VIII was himself conflicted about it.
02:41:02.000But we really see it come on with the victory of what I regard to be the predatory capitalist, which is the rise of the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. Now, she's a heroine.
02:41:13.000In modern American media and in Europe and in the cinema and so forth, but there's a huge disparity between the documentary record on her and what the media portrays her as by these attractive actresses, and she's supposed to be sort of a free thinker, and she was nothing of the kind.
02:41:30.000But the enclosure laws really came into force under her, and they would continue to do so successively with each aristocratic regime that came to the fore in Great Britain.
02:41:42.000And what this meant was you needed a political theory to go along with it, to go along with how we were going to deal with these surplus whites who were being pushed off the land and driven into the cities, largely London.
02:41:55.000And from that, we can go back as far as Heiklit, who is called a geographer, but that's actually a euphemism for political scientist.
02:42:04.000And even more than that, but Heikl is known to be a geographer and he's the one that began...
02:42:09.000And we see them to develop what we call eugenics today, and I'm going to see if you agree with this, and that literally the whole system they built, then you have the Malthusian view that came a little bit later about everything about the state controlling these horrible dirty ruffians and exterminating them.
02:42:29.000Yes. Well, Reverend Thomas Malthus is at the turn of the 18th and beginning of the 19th centuries, but you're correct.
02:42:38.000Malthus was also part of this chain of transmission because what he was doing was he was saying that population is a problem.
02:42:46.000Now, what's unusual about that is usually when someone is talking about demographics and an enemy's demographics, they say, well, the enemy has too many people.
02:42:55.000But for a nation to regard its own people as an enemy, this is largely unprecedented in the West.
02:43:03.000And here we see a revolutionary break between what Western civilization had originally nurtured under Christianity and what was beginning to emerge with the rise of usury and predatory capitalism.
02:43:17.000Communist, from what I've read of yourself, you're explaining the different forms of capitalism, a strip mining of the society, a predator class where they feed on the lower population.
02:43:30.000You're saying this is a period of blooming of that mindset.
02:43:35.000We then have the Club of Rome 1993 document written by Richard and Haas, reissued last year by the Council on Foreign Relations publicly.
02:43:42.000I don't know if you've seen this, Mr. Hoffman, But he says, this is public, he says, we must have a unifying order, terrorism will be one branch, and environmentalism the other, for the elite to use it and designate the world population as the enemy, humanity the enemy, with us the managers, managing, it's incredible quotes, have you seen those?
02:44:04.000I have not, but what you're describing is basically a symptom, an extreme symptom, of the final fulfillment of what I'm talking about in its mid-state of definition.
02:44:14.000Okay, please continue with the history.
02:44:17.000But Thomas Malthus, in the late 18th century, saw the surplus whites as being a problem.
02:44:24.000Now, he did not advocate birth control because Great Britain at that time was just too Christian.
02:44:29.000And contraception, as my late colleague Charles Proven pointed out, historically was seen as the equivalent to sodomy or abortion.
02:44:38.000So it was literally impossible for a clergyman to advocate contraception.
02:44:43.000So what he advocated was this complex system of celibacy and bachelorhood, which obviously wasn't going to work.
02:44:50.000And also crowding people together and spreading disease.
02:44:54.000Yeah, yeah, and that's what was happening in London, but also in London from the Elizabethan age onward, the London mob, as it was called, had a revolutionary potential.
02:45:05.000Great Britain, to its credit, had no standing army, it had no police force.
02:45:10.000And there was a very thin line that stood between the ruling monarch and the people.
02:45:15.000And the London mob was an obstreperous and vigorous group of people.
02:45:19.000At any time, they were capable of overthrowing the government.
02:45:22.000And that went back to the Magna Carta.
02:45:46.000The law was to take, what we see with the New World Order in the United States today, is to take one law and misapply it.
02:45:54.000And where I find the beginnings of white slave law, number one in the enclosures, which drove them out, but the actual weaponization of the enclosures, that law relates to pressing, or the press gangs.
02:46:08.000Once again, our media has dealt with this inadequately.
02:46:19.000Because you have scientifically broken down and written about what I organically have recognized.
02:46:23.000They want to get you on welfare, get you in the psychiatric system, or get you in the criminal justice system, or get you in debt.
02:46:28.000The form of slavery you're talking about is what the British really invented, in a modern sense, would be the debtor's prison, where, oh, and now they're saying under Homeland Security, bad credit, you'll have a bad security rating.
02:46:41.000This is the new system where they create economic Right, because what they did was they pauperized the yeomanry.
02:46:57.000They had worked for hundreds of years, sharing the commons, herding their sheep, and making at least a subsistence living.
02:47:06.000And then they were pauperized, forced into the city, and then labeled as criminals.
02:47:12.000And then you had the press gangs sweeping them up, and the press gangs operated in two ways.
02:47:18.000Initially, they operated to populate these very early settlements in North America, and then later on they were used militarily to fill the ranks of the army and the navy.
02:47:32.000But it began with Getting settlers to go to places like North America, which North America in the 17th century was regarded as an extremely hostile place.
02:47:44.000And for example, I have traced back to some of the early English literature where a convict had a choice of being sentenced to transportation, that was the euphemism for white slavery, or to being hanged at Tyburn.
02:47:58.000And he said, I've already talked to people who have been transported.
02:48:04.000I've heard about what happened to them.
02:48:05.000I would rather suffer suffocation at Tyburn Gallows for a minute or two than a lifetime of slavery in the colonies.
02:48:14.000So here was the realization of two points.
02:48:17.000One, that it was a living death over there.
02:48:20.000And two, that it wasn't seven years of indentured servitude polishing the master's silverware in the big house and then being released as we're told.
02:48:30.000Uh, that, that applied more to indentured servitude, which was a separate system.
02:48:35.000We're talking about chattel- And so mainline historians report that black slaves generally, because they were pure property, were better treated than white slaves, because the white slaves, you didn't even have to feed them, you could just let them die.
02:48:47.000Yeah, the, the white, the white slaves were treated much worse.
02:48:50.000We even have as recently as the, uh, 1840s and 50s, when Frederick Law Olmsted, uh, The architect of Central Park went down south and wrote his classic work about his tour of the South, and he was watching a barge being loaded up with bales from a ship that had come in at the port of New Orleans,
02:49:10.000and he saw that the bales were being thrown recklessly down into the barge, and the white men who were stacking the bales were at risk of serious injury, and he asked the overseer what was going on, and he said, oh, they're just paddies, meaning Irishmen, he said.
02:49:28.000And, uh, uh, Umstead asked him, well, what if they were blacks?
02:49:31.000And he said, well, they cost us money.
02:49:33.000We would have had to taken much greater care.
02:49:35.000But, of course, when you're talking about slavery in America, Alex, you have to be careful because the situation changes dramatically from century to century.
02:49:52.000But in the 17th century, You had even different crops that the white slaves had to work as opposed to the black slaves.
02:50:02.000The white slaves were working after they did the land clearing, and land clearing is the most onerous labor that you can engage in on the frontier, draining the swamps, cutting down trees with hand axes.
02:50:15.000And after all of that back-breaking labor was completed, then you had to tend to the tobacco crops and the sugar crops.
02:50:23.000The sugar, mostly in the West Indies, the tobacco crops...
02:50:26.000Yeah, the way they described the white slaves was, it was like putting a goat out to mow your lawn.
02:50:32.000They would just throw them out and, hey, survive, you form something, then we'll move in behind you with the black slaves.
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02:54:54.000Going back to Mr. Hoffman, just encapsulating this, then we'll get into the other subjects.
02:55:02.000This is just more of your study of how the elite control us.
02:55:07.000I mean, they're into how to control societies, how to propagandize.
02:55:10.000The average person's into wanting to have a new coat, or eat a big meal, or have a girlfriend, or go to the Bahamas once a year, or maybe just stay out of prison.
02:55:20.000And they rule over us, and next hour I want to get into what their mindset is, what you believe they're planning, and how the whole Germanic death cult, occultism, ties in with the Kabbalistic mysticism of the Jews, because people say it's either a totally Zionist thing, or it's a Catholic thing, or it's a...
02:55:40.000From what I've studied, it's a satanic thing, but we'll get your whole analysis of that, sir, but finishing up with the white slaves.
02:55:49.000Well, we were talking about their use initially in colonial America for land clearing and stoop labor, and only afterwards were the blacks brought in.
02:55:59.000And of course, I don't want to minimize in any way the pain, suffering, and hardship that black people endured as chattel slaves in America.
02:56:07.000The thing is that most of us are aware of that, and very few of us are aware of what the whites went through.
02:56:12.000When Congressman David Wilmot and the Free Soil Party threw its support behind Abraham Lincoln, Uh, the reason that they did so was is that they were very worried that the southern plantation owners were going to put blacks and black slaves in Oregon and California and they wanted to reserve the west for free white labor.
02:56:31.000And they called themselves, the Free Soil Party and Congressman David Wilmot, the Sons of Toil.
02:56:38.000And nowadays, when someone raises a shirt in a movie and shows whiplashes on his back, it's usually a black man who's been abused by a white overseer, Alex.
02:56:48.000But I can assure you in colonial America, and I've documented it, That there were many hundreds of white men who also had those whiplashes on their back, and of course we know in the military and in the Navy, they received fatal whiplashings, up to 200 lashings.
02:57:03.000Well, that's something that I got, you know, really into, just, uh, it was so interesting, was the naval histories of the Napoleonic Wars, the sea battles, British naval history, and that was some of the big reforms in England that finally ended pressing, was that the, uh, the, the midshipmen, the officers...
02:57:22.000I think your cordless phone's cuttin' out there, my friend.
02:57:25.000If you've got a regular line, it'd be better.
02:57:26.000Wood, just walk around for no reason, beating people with whips, not just for cat-or-nine-tail punishment.
02:57:33.000Well, of course, the service in the Navy, especially the Napoleonic-era Navy, which is made to be so very romantic now in movies like Master and Commander, you couldn't get guys to serve on those ships, so you had to press them in, and in order to maintain order and discipline, you had to use the lash.
02:57:51.000It's unfortunate in the film Master and Commander, which was otherwise a very well done piece of cinema, that they passed over except for one brief conversation between the ship's doctor and the captain about how the fact that the crew there, between one-third and two-thirds of them, would have been press ganged white slaves on board that ship.
02:58:12.000But my point I was trying to make earlier, Alex, was that White men and women in America are the sons and daughters of toil.
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