On today's show, host Jason Burmess is joined by Bob Chapman, Peter Dale Scott, William Lewis, and Irene Spencer to discuss the 9/11 attacks and the government cover-up. They also discuss the new Alex Jones film, The 9-11 Chronicles Part 1.
00:00:47.000That's coming up at 2 o'clock, Chapman, at 1130.
00:00:50.000So we've got a half an hour before we go to any guests.
00:00:53.000I just want to point out really quickly in the beginning that Alex Jones is going to be premiering the 9-11 Chronicles Part 1 Truth Rising over at the Alamo Draft House.
00:01:05.000Now, I just went to the Alamo Draft House for the first time, I believe it was last week, and it was really just a great time.
00:01:11.000If you've never been there, which I doubt if you're listening to this and you're in Austin, Texas, it's amazing.
00:01:16.000I mean, you sit down, you have a meal, it's a very theater-like atmosphere, huge screen, and I don't even think I was in one of the bigger theaters.
00:01:28.000you can check out this new amazing film, The 9-11 Chronicles Part 1.
00:01:33.000And Alex really hasn't plugged it, so I'm going to.
00:01:35.000Because I sit in an office all day while I'm editing my movie and Rob Jacobson, the editor for the other film, is behind me most of the time.
00:01:42.000And I'm always checking out that film.
00:01:50.000I know he's saying that over and over again, but I really want you to take that as a perspective.
00:01:55.000This is not an Alex Jones voiced over picture.
00:01:58.000This is a totally different style of movie, and it really shows you that 9-11 Truth is not about just Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com or WeAreChanged.org, but about people around the world creating their own change by confronting the likes of Rudy but about people around the world creating their own change by confronting the likes of Rudy Giuliani, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain, Gary Hart, and a whole
00:02:28.000As well as talking to, I guess, pop culture celebrities and icons such as George Carlin, Martin Sheen, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, and even childhood actor Danny Bamaduchi.
00:02:43.000I'm just really excited to see this movie come out.
00:02:45.000I've seen Rob put a lot of hard work into it.
00:02:47.000Alex put a lot of hard work into it, too.
00:02:49.000He was here late at night going over the movie, making sure it's perfect for you folks over at these screenings at the Alamo Draft House.
00:02:55.000Like I said, I'm just totally impressed with it.
00:02:58.000Again, so much different from anything else.
00:03:02.000You know, other 9-11 films really try to focus in on the evidence.
00:03:06.000This is focused in on the movement and how we can all create change in our lives, in our communities, and in the world.
00:03:13.000Because, in case you didn't know, folks, our entire foreign and domestic policy is still, and I repeat this, still based on what the government media has told us about 9-11.
00:03:24.000For example, the other night when Alex was on Geraldo, I was in the back office with Aaron Dykes, and we were setting up the recorder so we could get that and throw it up on YouTube.
00:03:34.000And prior to that was Sean Hannity's show.
00:03:37.000And this is how relevant 9-11 still is.
00:03:40.000They actually had on, I guess it was somebody who, Reverend Wright, who's big in the news right now, had quoted about 9-11, about chickens coming home to roost, and this and that.
00:03:50.000Well, Hannity had this guy on on the 15th, and they literally ran a 10-minute segment from 9-15 all based on 9-11.
00:04:00.000Well, it's still on the front page constantly.
00:04:03.000A couple weeks ago when I did this show and I was talking about how they were admitting to paying off top military personnel to be pundits on all the major networks such as CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, yadda yadda yadda.
00:04:17.000Right on the cover in this post 9-11 world.
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00:07:59.000All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
00:08:03.000And joining me right now before we get to the Cole story is Trey, our lovely producer here over at InfoWars and Prison Planet.
00:08:13.000And we were trying to get on, uh, for you the apartment manager for the DC Madam.
00:08:19.000So we could discuss, uh, this whole letter thing and, you know, it's a big hot story over at InfoWars.com and Jones Report over by Aaron Dykes.
00:08:27.000He really went through All this handwriting and found a few inconsistencies, obviously the readers are finding even more, but we tried to get on the building manager and what happened, Trey?
00:08:38.000Oh, you know, just due to, I think just a lot of attention has been coming around and I think that the people who own the building and run the complex just aren't quite happy with all the attention that's coming across.
00:08:52.000I remember that he mentioned several times that she left him several post-it notes She left him several post-it notes and writings and she signed several documents for him over the course of time that she lived there.
00:09:08.000So he was pretty familiar with her handwriting.
00:09:11.000From what he saw as well, it just did not look anything at all like that.
00:09:14.000He said he didn't think the signature matched up at all, did he?
00:09:19.000It's just, I think there's just been, you know, he's got to do his day job as well.
00:09:23.000So, I just don't think he's able to break apart and do interviews all day long.
00:09:26.000Yeah, and I think it's important for the listeners to bring these stories, you know, to other venues and call into other talk radio shows and talk about this.
00:09:33.000Because if we don't keep up on this issue, Trey, it is going to kind of go under the rug.
00:09:37.000And, uh, who knows what she was going to reveal.
00:09:40.000You know, was it just going to be a clientele list?
00:09:41.000Was it going to be a clientele list along with their associates?
00:09:44.000I know there's a few separate stories floating around, especially by Wayne Madsen, that could show some prior involvement in 9-11.
00:09:52.000But, you know, when you're working at one of these buildings and there's a media firestorm after a friend of yours has been killed, you know, apparently you can only do so much.
00:10:01.000Well, I'm sure he would like to come out and talk more, just like the other day, but like I said, I think the national media's gotten wind of it, and it's not necessarily that the building owners, you know, don't want him to help his friend.
00:10:13.000I just think that, you know, anytime there's a situation like that, people get all nervous about it and don't want to get involved, even though that's the last thing people should be doing.
00:10:22.000Yeah, they don't want a media circus outside of their building, and really, folks, it's only a few members of the mainstream media That are even considering this a murder!
00:10:29.000Well, the bottom line, she paid her rent.
00:10:33.000She said people have been following her.
00:10:35.000I mean, there's enough evidence out there to just open it, to not say that it was to rule it a suicide right from the start.
00:10:42.000It was ruled a suicide before the case seemed even close.
00:10:47.000And in December, she came in on this show and said she wasn't going to kill herself.
00:10:50.000She went on other shows and said she wasn't going to kill herself.
00:10:54.000She hung herself in her mother's shed.
00:10:56.000I even get a kick out of how a lot of the talk was six to seven years in prison when I really don't honestly believe she would serve seven years in prison.
00:11:06.000She would maybe get a seven-year sentence, but she would have been out in under a year, I believe, with parole, probation.
00:11:13.000A lot of people don't know about those programs, but you could literally get a five-year sentence and do a year in prison.
00:11:18.000Yeah, it's silly to think that for a nonviolent crime she'd be sitting in jail for seven years.
00:11:24.000Absolutely, when she was never really convicted of knowing anything about the prostitution ring in particular, I think they got her on some other kind of technicality.
00:11:32.000It's all tax evasion and stuff like that.
00:11:36.000I don't think she would have been in prison that long, and so I don't see how Uh, having a book deal waiting for her, how, how, I don't see her not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel with that situation.
00:12:22.000But I think this, out of the Washington Post, it came out Sunday and it's been pretty ignored.
00:12:27.000But again, let me just read the first couple paragraphs here.
00:12:31.000Almost eight years after Al-Qaeda nearly sank the USS Cole with an explosive-stuffed motorboat killing 17 sailors, all the defendants convicted in the attack have escaped from prison or been freed by Yemeni officials.
00:12:54.000Well, let me tell you why it's so important.
00:12:57.000The government's version of terrorism, if there was an Al-Qaeda member under every bed like they'd have you believe, and blonde, blue-haired Al-Qaeda members, you know, they're recruiting white people now.
00:13:09.000These guys would be the guys in Gitmo.
00:13:28.000These are the guys that should be on the so-called waterboarding tables.
00:13:33.000Alright, these are the guys that you should be extracting information from.
00:13:36.000But no, instead they're going to be let go.
00:13:38.000There'll probably be some wild outlandish story about how they helped with the next terror attack, the next false flag operation.
00:13:46.000And the dumb public will go along with it.
00:13:48.000Just like they went along with, uh, what was it, uh, Zwarhe there, who was killed like three different times.
00:13:55.000There was one time, I think, uh, you know, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured and killed a couple times before, you know, his official capture.
00:14:02.000And so they put out those, you know, Mario the Plumber pics, and, you know, convicted him of the crimes of 9-11, and then didn't show anybody anything, and said, well, you know, Our interrogations are good enough.
00:14:15.000And even that on mainstream news, a lot of people were like, well, you know, he was tortured and there's no tape and there was no trial.
00:14:22.000Maybe there's something going on here.
00:14:23.000You're damn right there's something going on here!
00:14:26.000And it has nothing to do with terrorism.
00:14:28.000It has everything to do with fear and imposing new modes of control on the American people through eviscerating the Constitution and Bill of Rights and bringing into existence New agencies, such as Homeland Security.
00:14:44.000I know it's not so new anymore, folks, but we've been acclimated to this thing.
00:14:48.000We've been acclimated to a system of color codes.
00:14:56.000Oh, I better lock my doors and not talk to anybody and report suspicious behavior.
00:15:00.000I mean, that's what it's come down to.
00:15:02.000And they're talking about having a high school that's going to indoctrinate people into Homeland Security, basically train you to go there.
00:15:09.000And they just recently had this drug bust over at San Diego University.
00:15:13.000I think it was either San Diego State or San Diego U. I'm not sure which one it is.
00:15:17.000And, uh, I think they rounded up about a hundred kids, and one of the kids that they arrested for selling cocaine and having weapons was, of course, in the criminal justice program, about to head into Homeland Security.
00:16:09.000Well, if you're not putting the quote-unquote, suppose it, real terrorists in these bases, what are they there for?
00:16:15.000Well, they're there to, you know, herd up the farmers and the sheep herders and, you know, the regular people and do experiments on them.
00:16:26.000Check out, uh, John Ronson's, uh, what is it?
00:16:29.000Crazy Rulers of the World, in the second part of that, they show how they torture these people by playing a continuous loop of Barney, I love you, you love me, we're a happy family.
00:16:40.000Can you imagine having to hear that for 24 hours a day, for months and years on end, while you're tortured?
00:16:46.000While you watch your family get tortured?
00:16:49.000I, you know, we have William Lewis on, uh, a little later today.
00:16:54.000And he's recently put out Washington, You're Fired.
00:16:56.000You can get that over at Infowars.com along with American Drug War and a host of other great titles.
00:17:01.000But the reason I bring William Lewis into this is because I was skimming through his movie last night.
00:17:07.000And he has some of those pictures from Guantanamo Bay.
00:17:10.000You know, the famous ones we've all seen with the dogs attacking and the prisoners naked and bloodied.
00:17:27.000And that's just a small percentage of the things that were leaked out of Abu Ghraib.
00:17:32.000We all think that we've seen it all, but if you go back to the news, in and around that time, there were many senators that got to watch the videotapes and see the classified photographs, and they were appalled, they were disgusted, they barely even discussed it with the media because they could not believe what they had seen and experienced.
00:17:53.000And of course, you know, Don Rumsfeld and Gonzalez want to blame it on the lower tier.
00:17:59.000They want to get an army colonel in trouble.
00:18:52.000Literally, John Hugh writes memos how they can crush small children's testicles in front of their parents and rape people with battery acid if it's going to stop the next terror attack.
00:19:04.000Because we're all worried about terrorism.
00:19:06.000Well, apparently someone's not worried about terrorism because all the people that killed those sailors at the USS Cole are gone.
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00:23:53.000All right, folks, we are back, and I want to read this one off of InfoWars.com.
00:24:11.000It's Philly cops caught beating motorists on video.
00:24:15.000And you can watch the AP video of a routine traffic stop.
00:24:21.000Apparently a cop had been killed in a bank robbery a couple days earlier in Philadelphia, out in Pennsylvania.
00:24:29.000And that's their excuse for pulling over an unrelated vehicle and Beating the passengers, uh, mercilessly, really.
00:26:13.000As a TV helicopter taped the confrontation, reports the Associated Press.
00:26:18.000The video shot by WTXF-TV shows three police cars stopping a car Monday, two days after a city officer was shot to death responding to a bank robbery.
00:26:29.000In other words, after a fellow gang member was shot and killed protecting a bank, the largest gang in Philadelphia wanted revenge and blood.
00:26:36.000Of course, that's the real job of the cops.
00:26:38.000Protect banks, not the public at large.
00:27:27.000You know, I'd hate to have to suspend a lot of my good officers who I run corrupt operations with.
00:27:33.000You know, how am I supposed to skim this week?
00:27:35.000How am I supposed to take my till from the local drug dealers this week if I don't have some of my lieutenants who are there to collect that money?
00:27:43.000So, you know, obviously it doesn't look good, but we'll brush it under the rug.
00:27:52.000Even though the video plainly shows there was absolutely no reason for members of the police gang to savagely beat the three hapless people pictured, the officers responding to a report of a shooting nearby, police said, it was not immediately clear what preceded the confrontation.
00:28:08.000Unless these guys had a gun, and they were firing at the officers, or they were, you know... Again, you know, the copter seems like it was following them for a while.
00:28:18.000If they were running red lights, if they were doing something out of shocking videos on Spike, maybe some of that force would have been necessary, but I didn't see any resistance whatsoever on the video.
00:28:34.000I'm sorry, we don't take into consideration the emotions of the police officers when it comes to the discharge of their duties.
00:28:41.000Your emotional state being tired doesn't justify what's on the video, said D. Scott Perrine, an attorney who represents the three men in the video.
00:28:51.000Yeah, he should represent them and he's dead on.
00:28:54.000He said one of the clients suffered a welt on his head the size of a baseball and one of his legs was seriously injured.
00:29:00.000He didn't know the extent of any of the injuries of the other two men.
00:29:03.000It clearly shows a lack of any reasonable investigation before these police yank these individuals out of the car and take turns delivering blows, he said.
00:29:12.000This is a time for a thorough investigation to see what is, what it is that happened here.
00:29:18.000All right, Bob Chapman coming up with some financial news on the other side.
00:29:21.000We're going to be talking about $200 a barrel oil, the plummeting dollar, and the importance, really, to get into some kind of hard currency, folk.
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00:35:00.000You're a young 72 and you keep trucking along.
00:35:04.000I hear you on this program quite a bit, warning people about the huge financial crisis in this country right now.
00:35:11.000Yesterday Alex brought up a story where they want $200 a barrel oil.
00:35:16.000I think we're almost up to Almost up to like 125 right now, and that's really going to hurt the economy, especially with our fiat currency that just continues to lose value, Bob.
00:35:29.000Oil is 121.77 right now, and it's off 65 cents today, but it's past 120, and it traded up to, I guess, 124 yesterday.
00:35:40.000And the report you're referring to is by the analysts at Goldman Sachs.
00:35:48.000Which is an investment banking house in New York City, and they seem to think that in the next six months to two years, that oil could go to $150 to $200 a barrel.
00:36:04.000We at the International Forecaster, about eight or nine months ago, said oil was going to $120.
00:36:11.000And I remember it distinctly because T-Bone Pickens said it was going to go down.
00:36:18.000He changed his mind about a week and a half later.
00:36:21.000But anyway, Goldman Sachs is not factoring in any other military actions or occupations either.
00:36:33.000And I would think that if the people in the White House decided that it was finally time for them to attack Iran, Or Kosovo or Georgia and get involved in any of those places and maybe some others that oil could go even higher.
00:36:53.000And so we got a combination of higher oil and gas and distillate prices.
00:37:43.000It's simple supply and demand that when we took over Iraq, which was the second largest oil-rich nation in the world, demand for oil was still the same, but since we controlled the supply, we demanded more money.
00:37:54.000And that's why we have this rise In gas prices over the last, you know, four, five years now, is because we control more of it.
00:38:02.000And if we go into Iran and we take their oil fields as well, I feel like we're going to be paying $6 a gallon in gas.
00:38:11.000And there's many people throughout the world who are paying... Well, if you live in Nicaragua, it's $4.70.
00:38:19.000If you live in London or in Europe, it's around $9, and diesel's over $10.
00:38:24.000And it's probably a little bit higher now.
00:38:26.000Those figures are a couple of weeks old.
00:38:28.000And so, Americans really haven't caught up because they don't have as much taxation on energy products as other countries have put upon them.
00:38:39.000And so, without any increase in taxes in America, I think we could see an average price of somewhere, and this is average now, between $4.50 and $5 a gallon during the summer.
00:38:55.000And that's because that's the big period during the year when more gasoline is used than in other parts of the year.
00:39:04.000And also, refineries are only operating at approximately 87% of capacity.
00:39:13.000And so that makes the price go up as well.
00:39:17.000So we could be looking at $5 in lots of cities.
00:39:20.000I mean, there are cities now that are over $4.
00:39:24.000And so, if we look at $150 to $200 oil, we'll be looking at $8 or $9 or $10 a gallon.
00:39:34.000And of course, that spreads throughout the entire economy.
00:39:37.000Most people don't stop and think beyond the gas pump, but we do buy distillates to heat our homes in the winter in the north and the northeast.
00:39:46.000And also, the About 70% of petroleum is used for byproducts.
00:39:56.000And so all of those byproducts are going to go up in cost as well.
00:40:00.000And then if you join that with the problem that we have with food prices, there's going to be a lot of people in the world who are going to starve to death.
00:40:12.000Yeah, and you know, a lot of people don't even realize that even though it's just, you know, it's not just the gas going up to five or six dollars a gallon.
00:40:18.000Everything shipped, you know, around the country in trucks.
00:40:21.000In fact, the truckers had a big strike in D.C.
00:40:23.000The mainstream media ignored it last week.
00:40:26.000But these guys are sick of paying, you know, an outlandish amount for gas because it's cutting into their profits as well.
00:40:34.000You know, the inflation keeps happening, their paycheck is worth less and less, and we end up paying more for it at, you know, the grocery store or the pizza shop or the burger shop, because it costs more money to get the supplies across the country.
00:40:50.000Well, they're absolutely right, and if the truckers went out for one week, every supermarket in the country would be empty.
00:41:03.000And I think, finally, they might get the message.
00:41:07.000You know, we know that this is a scam.
00:41:14.000And the public believes it's a scam as well, although they don't have the hard facts.
00:41:20.000And, of course, the truck drivers can't make any money at all having to pay so much for their propellants, so to speak.
00:41:32.000And so it's a very, very bad situation, and it's not going to get better any time soon.
00:41:38.000And if we get rid of the use of ethanol, which is one of the major problems in higher food prices, then that means that America would have to purchase more oil.
00:41:55.000But I don't know what the offset would be between ethanol The stopping of ethanol production and the stopping of the continued filling of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve by the White House.
00:42:16.000So what do you think are some of the solutions that we should be telling people about?
00:42:19.000What should people be doing to protect themselves from this sort of thing?
00:42:25.000Well, with the energy products, there's not much you can do at all except I hope for the best, because it's at a level that most people can't reach.
00:42:35.000I mean, they can't go on the floor of the different exchanges that do that and make any impact.
00:42:47.000And that problem is basically twofold.
00:42:52.000Yes, you have weather, and sometimes it's not very good.
00:42:57.000But we could stop ethanol production in the United States and in Europe, and that would go a long way to helping the situation.
00:43:06.000And also, we could change the agreements we've made through NAFTA and CAFTA on production in the United States.
00:43:19.000Seventy percent of the farming in America is done by corporations and large Uh, corporations owned by rich people, and they are subsidized.
00:43:31.000And if that subsidy were to be lifted, then American products from the Earth would cost relatively the same, we'll assume, as they would in Central or South America and Mexico.
00:43:50.000And that would mean that farmers would go back to the land again, because what happened Was that if they were producing corn previously, prior to NAFTA, at $3.50 a bushel, and subsidized corn in the United States was $3 a bushel, well they just couldn't compete.
00:44:13.000And that's why we had this tremendous upsurge of illegal aliens in the United States from Mexico during the period between 1995 and present.
00:44:25.000Because the people were driven off the land because they couldn't compete anymore, because they're rich from being subsidized in the United States, and they still are.
00:44:34.000Well, I feel like that, you know, CAFTA and NAFTA, the Central American Free Trade Agreement and the North American Free Trade Agreement, is there to do just that, to push illegal immigrants into this country so they can try to find a better life, and really to create this North American Union between us Canada and Mexico, and that's why you're seeing, you know, the Trans-Texas Corridor being built.
00:44:54.000That's why we had the Securities and Prosperities Partnership, kept very hush-hush until Judicial Watch got the papers, is because they do want something like the European Union here, and it looks like they're at the same time trying to kill the dollar so that we can have some sort of an Amaro.
00:45:11.000Well, your thinking is correct, and that is the direction that they are going, and at least for the time being, we've cut them off at the pass.
00:45:21.000And yes, they're working behind the scenes, and they're using what they call harmonization, trying to make the laws similar, so they can go to Congress five or ten years from now and say, hey, we got everything all set up, and what we're going to do now is have a, and they'll change the name of course, A North American Union.
00:45:44.000And we're going to meld these three countries together.
00:45:47.000But what they've done is been exposed, yes, the going ahead on their highway, but that doesn't mean it's going to be used.
00:45:55.000They're going to have a long, hard fight on this one.
00:46:12.000I mean, when you saw, uh, I don't know if you saw Luke Rudowsky, if we are changing his conversation with Vicente Fox, the former president of Mexico, but he discussed SPP at length with him and Vicente Fox kind of sought him out after his speech to talk to him about it.
00:46:27.000And Luke was, well, look at this trans-Texas corridor.
00:46:29.000And he's like, well, that's not being built by the government.
00:46:38.000And although it's privatized, it's going to be a road that guts through the country and that Mexico is going to use for trade.
00:46:44.000And also Vicente Fox said, well, you're right, but it's not moving at the pace I'd like to see it.
00:46:48.000He wants to see, you know, this, this globalist process go quicker.
00:46:53.000You know, he's not satisfied that it's not going fast enough.
00:46:56.000And I'm not satisfied that it's happening at all.
00:46:59.000I'm pretty upset about the fact that they're trying to do this.
00:47:02.000Yeah, I think they're five to 10 years away.
00:47:06.000And, you know, I've been at this for almost 50 years, so you gain a little patience.
00:47:11.000And things have gone rocky for them, and I don't think international financial upheaval is going to help them.
00:47:20.000I think it's going to hinder them, because it's going to bring what they're doing more into a questionable atmosphere.
00:47:28.000They're going to be asked, well, why did you do this, and why did you do that, and why are you doing all these things secretly?
00:47:36.000We'll talk about the Fed as an example.
00:47:39.000Banks come to the Fed's discount window, and at that window, they can borrow money at 2.25%.
00:47:49.000But the Fed won't let anybody know who the borrowers are.
00:47:53.000The excuse is, well, there might be a run in one of the banks because people think that the bank might be close to insolvency.
00:48:01.000Well, quite frankly, in part, that's true.
00:48:06.000But we shouldn't have secret organizations that are appendages of government doing such things.
00:48:15.000This last week, in answer to a letter by Senator Dodd to the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernanke, Mr. Bernanke was asked
00:48:34.000to bail out the student loan program and he said uh... no i can't do that it's up to congress and the bush administration to address the diminishing profits on loans and the state of that industry and uh... that was last friday and so when they came through with the new rules for increasing the amount of money at their by
00:49:18.000They included lines of credit to the European Central Bank and the Swiss National Bank.
00:49:28.000And what went unnoticed and this is something that had to have been in the works for weeks, was that the Fed took action using that artifice to help this loan was that the Fed took action using that artifice to help And so he says one thing and does another.
00:49:58.000And this is the kind of thing that calls into question the veracity of Mr. Bernanke.
00:50:07.000And, you know, to put it all straight up, they're all lying.
00:50:12.000I mean, nobody in Washington or Wall Street tells the truth.
00:50:15.000And incidentally, I spent 28 years on Wall Street, and they do have a hard time finding the truth.
00:50:23.000I was not very popular while I was there.
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00:54:37.000It's the Alex Jones Show, and we are back.
00:54:40.000I just want to remind everybody out there that Alex is going to sneak peek his 9-11 Chronicles about a month early before you can get it on DVD over at the Alamo Draft House on Saturday, May 17th at 4 p.m.
00:54:55.000If you go to OriginalAlamo.com, you can check out all the details, but I mean again, This one's got Willie Nelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, George Carlin, Martin Sheen, Bill Clinton, David Rockefeller, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and so much more.
00:55:12.000It is a film unlike any other that Alex Jones has produced, and I'm a huge fan of it so far.
00:55:17.000You know, again, I've been here the last three weeks working on my project, Fabled Enemies, and Rob's been in the background doing this 9-11 Chronicles flick, and it shows that, you know, we do have an immense amount of power if we put our minds to it.
00:55:30.000Each individual holds holds enough power that they can make a difference they can make a change in so many people have have come around and said you can't you know change this you can't do anything about it and this is just the way it is now that's not the way it is okay if we're going to create change in this country have to be willing to get out on the streets and do so we have to be willing to inform our neighbors our friends and our families about not only you know 9-11 but the economic crisis we're in you know the fact that they're trying to gouge us
00:56:01.000in oil pricing, and they're trying to basically ruin our economy by devaluing the dollar and bringing in a new currency.
00:56:09.000And really, one of the only ways that you're going to be able to save money, actual real money, hard money, is to get into gold and silver.
00:56:19.000Well, it certainly is the best thing I can think of, and I've thought that way for some time.
00:56:27.000And, you know, when you have gold in particular, it doesn't owe anybody anything, and it's really pure money, has been for centuries.
00:56:37.000and I think And so, when times are either inflationary or deflationary, gold is a good place to be.
00:56:47.000And, of course, taking possession of gold coin is important during those kinds of times.
00:56:53.000Silver is a little bit different because it's more commercial metal.
00:56:57.000Although production for years has been shorter than demand, and that's going to get even worse as time goes by.
00:57:08.000But it has an inflation-bent success price-wise.
00:57:16.000As opposed to gold also being able to do the same thing, in other words, go up when inflation is high, but also to hold its value when inflation doesn't exist in this deflation.
00:57:29.000So gold is very, very unique in that way.
00:57:32.000Well, I remember, you know, back in 2003, 2004, when I first started listening to this very radio show on the reg.
00:57:41.000under three hundred dollars an ounce it was like two sixty two seventy and now what what's it at about nine thirty something like that right uh... it uh...
00:57:50.000it came off a little bit today had a good day yesterday but uh... uh...
00:57:54.000just before the program went on we were at uh... eight sixty seven forty Well, I can't imagine anything else out there that has tripled in value in the last five years, Bob.
00:58:06.000We're going to come back right on the other side in the Top of the Hour with Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, and we're going to be talking gold and silver.
01:00:30.000If you got in before the invasion of Iraq in the oil business, maybe you made triple your money.
01:00:35.000But other than that, is there anything else out there that even compares?
01:00:39.000Yeah, we recommended oil and gas, as well as the natural gas, usually to people who trade.
01:00:50.000And we recommended three good oil companies that have done extraordinarily well, as well as gold and silver have.
01:01:00.000And we recommended Swiss franc, in the form of Swiss franc government bonds, We started to recommend that when the, and this is about eight years ago, recommending the Swiss franc at 173.
01:01:18.000The Swiss franc is trading right now at 94.50, and so that's been quite a change.
01:01:31.000And for those who bought Swiss franc government bonds and kept on rolling them, they got a small Uh, a dividend interest payment of usually around, uh, anywhere between 1.8 and 3%, but they've held the value of their currency.
01:01:51.000And so it's been, uh, some other country currencies beside the Swiss francs, which I happen to like the best.
01:02:00.000And, uh, I've lived and banked in and, uh, and done business in Europe for many years, uh, some time ago.
01:02:11.000In fact, I went to school in Switzerland.
01:02:16.000Anyway, so you get Swiss franc-oriented assets.
01:02:21.000For those who want to have liquidity, you might have a business, you don't want to keep your money in a savings account or a checking account or in U.S.
01:02:32.000Treasuries, because of the very reasons I just pointed out.
01:02:35.000So you buy Swiss franc bonds and you can buy them today and sell them tomorrow if you want.
01:02:40.000And the commissions are ridiculously low.
01:02:44.000More like an accommodation to a broker trust client.
01:02:49.000And then you've got the gold and silver related assets.
01:02:52.000And other than that, I think as a form of insurance, you want to have Uh, freeze-dried and dehydrated foods, a method of purifying water, and a method of defending your family.
01:03:15.000Well, we're going to see higher gold and silver prices.
01:03:19.000And, uh, I wouldn't be surprised if we'll use gold as the guideline.
01:03:24.000Uh, that by the end of the year, we could see Twelve, maybe $1,200, maybe even higher.
01:03:33.000You've got to remember the government, the central banks, the western governments are working in concert to suppress the price.
01:03:43.000If they weren't doing that and hadn't been doing that since 1988, a goal would probably be selling now somewhere between $2,200 and $3,000 an ounce.
01:03:56.000So, they've only got so much gold, and there's only so much they can sell.
01:04:03.000That's the central banks and governments.
01:04:30.000We're going to be taking calls with Bob Chapman on the other side until about 12.30, so if you want to call into the Alex Jones Show, please do.
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01:08:07.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:08:11.000All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is the Alex Jones Show.
01:08:19.000I am Jason Burmas, subbing in for the next few days, and I am with Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, and we're going to go to your calls now.
01:08:29.000Hopefully we have comments or questions for Mr. Chapman.
01:08:42.000You know, I've been noticing, I've been taking photographs with my video camera, CD, I've been noticing these chemtrails, and I have pictures and video of these jets.
01:08:54.000They look like military jets, the big ones, C-132s.
01:08:59.000And they're up there, and you see these big emulsions of dispersion of these white exhaust fumes on the back.
01:09:05.000And on the other side, see, I'm in a major traffic area in Wilmington, North Carolina, before it's the last point before they leave the coastal region, okay?
01:09:16.000Now, there's others that are at the same altitude, like, you know, maybe 15 minutes, 10, 5 minutes later, and they're not emitting the same exhaust.
01:10:13.000And this woman has been collecting samples over the last 10 years at her lake.
01:10:17.000When these things were going on and they said there was aluminum oxide and other heavy metals in there and it had all the earmarks of weather control.
01:11:34.000Well, that's hard to say, but I think it's sufficient in America to have a depression And a good many of people are losing their homes, their jobs, their cars, living under a bridge or whatever.
01:11:50.000I think that will be the catalyst that'll get it going because the world lives on its stomach and of course the transportation to bring the food to you so that you can exist.
01:12:04.000And so I think that that will be the cataclysmic event.
01:12:08.000And I think the people behind government realize that quite well.
01:12:31.000We're soon going to be paying Five dollars a gallon, and if that doesn't get the general population in an uproar, I really just don't know what's going to do that, other than what Mr. Chapman said, which is like bread lines, you know?
01:12:43.000A return to, you know, the crash of 29.
01:12:47.000I mean, we have to put it upon ourselves, but at the same time, you know, we have to be active and out there and talking to family and friends about these situations and not letting up.
01:12:56.000You know, we have to bombard other people with other information.
01:12:59.000Otherwise, you know, we are going to have to suffer through a depression, and who knows if we make it out of there.
01:13:15.000I've kind of noticed something on, picked up on some other Patriot Radio programming, that some people are having undue problems with their banks.
01:13:25.000They have, like, obviously the excess fees and the kind of unfair and abrupt treatment they often get from tellers, and the seeming unfair commercial practices of banks, the interest rates on certain types of loans and various other things.
01:13:38.000And I myself have been doing business for about 10 years now with a credit union.
01:13:42.000I currently don't do business with a bank.
01:13:47.000I was noticing that it's easier for many people to get into credit unions now than it used to be, and I would recommend that a lot of people having trouble with banks and feeling they're being shafted, so to speak, in various ways, consider if they can arrange to transfer over to a credit union that they consider doing that.
01:14:05.000They'll usually get better treatment, less fees.
01:14:07.000I haven't had any undue fees since I've been there.
01:14:42.000with things like gold and silver, if they can get into that too, especially coins, to try and prep for themselves for coming hard times, if they can build up food supplies, storable foods, and storable capacity for purifying water and things of that nature.
01:14:54.000That's kind of a preparation technique for people.
01:14:57.000Bob, what do you think about all that?
01:18:47.000The guy's been right more often than ever.
01:18:50.000Well, I would tell people also to get a copy of Endgame and make copies and hand it out to the family or hold screenings.
01:18:56.000You know, if you're going to be talking about the depopulation program, there's not another film out there that covers it as well.
01:19:01.000And unfortunately, the general population really doesn't read anymore.
01:19:05.000Movies have become the new medium to reach the masses.
01:19:09.000And that's why, you know, personally, that's why I'm a documentary filmmaker is because You know, I can reach tens of millions of people through an internet movie production, whereas if I write an article online, I'm lucky if 10,000 people actually read it.
01:19:23.000Final segment with Bob Chapman on the other side.
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01:24:56.000We're going to take one more caller, and then we're going to have Bob Chapman finish up before we have Peter Dale Scott on in the next segment.
01:25:28.000What can a poor family man do, you know, to help his family to survive the coming times is what I was going to ask, and then I was going to maybe get y'all's take on the Gwinn Towers.
01:25:38.000Well, you want to go over the second part since we already went over the first part there, Bob?
01:26:30.000Bob, in closing, how do people get your information and what can they do?
01:26:35.000Give us the two-minute wrap-up on what's most important.
01:26:39.000Well, the most important thing, and there's a lot of people who listen who can't invest, and you go out and you get the food and you get the water purification and the things to defend your family, you get out of debt, and those are the most important things.
01:26:53.000And if you've got money to invest, you go to the gold and silver related assets and things like that.
01:26:59.000And there's so many letters that we've gotten over the years, particularly the last eight years, that said, Gee, I did everything you said, and now we're in great shape, and everything's working for us.
01:27:12.000So, all of that stuff I'm telling you works.
01:27:34.000And, of course, we'd love you to subscribe to the International Forecast, because we publish a couple of times a week by email, and we put out about 30 pages each time.
01:27:45.000So all of the things that you need to know, they're there.
01:28:18.000Yeah, you really run your own ship, and you're just trying to be honest with the American people and tell them, look, we're in a huge amount of trouble.
01:28:53.000And, you know, this has been something that's going on year after year for the last thousand years, and they haven't been able to grasp, complete control over us.
01:29:04.000And they're not going to, because of people like you and this program and Alex and And we inform people so that they act and stop these people from doing what they're doing.
01:29:15.000Bob, thank you so much for joining us and I just want to point out that order out of chaos is their term.
01:29:20.000You can watch Bush talk about it in Alex Jones' picture, American Dictators, during the credits at the end.
01:29:27.000And Paul Joseph Watson, one of the Webmasters over at PrisonPlanet.com also wrote a book with that title, Order Out of Chaos, one of my favorite New World Order books out there.
01:29:37.000We're going to have Peter Dale Scott on the other side.
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01:33:49.000I'm Jason Burmas subbing in and I just want to invite everybody to go over to Infowars.com and check out some of the great videos that make this show possible.
01:33:58.000You know, we have American Drug War right now, Washington You're Fired, Endgame, you know, Alex Jones' latest production.
01:34:05.000Let's not forget Loose Change, Final Cut.
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01:34:11.000Just disproves the official version time and time again.
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01:34:45.000He's a former UC Berkeley professor and author, the author of things like The War Conspiracy, Iran Contra Connection, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, and his latest, The Road to 9-11, Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America.
01:35:03.000It's always a pleasure and honor to be on this show.
01:35:07.000Well, sir, I would just say it is a pleasure and an honor to actually get to talk to you.
01:35:12.000Let's start with your first book, The War Conspiracy.
01:35:14.000I think I remember watching a video of you explaining how this was suppressed by our intelligence agencies in the beginning.
01:35:22.000That was said in the video, but not by me.
01:35:25.000It was actually suppressed by its publisher, Bob Merrill, which was owned by IT&T, and it all happened at the time that IT&T was collaborating with the CIA to overthrow Allende in Chile, so it's not surprising that the IT&T didn't like a book that was criticizing what the CIA did.
01:35:46.000Luckily, that book is going to come out again after it's... what is it?
01:35:50.000For more than 30 years, the book should be out in two or three months, I think.
01:36:12.000I've expanded the book and looked at particularly similarities between the John F. Kennedy assassination and 9-11.
01:36:22.000I mean, that may sound absolutely off the wall, and I thought it was the first time I spoke about it, but I am on the web talking about this, and I have two or three versions of an article that get bigger and bigger, because
01:36:39.000Unmistakably, there are certain patterns that repeated themselves and suggest that the forces at work that drove us into war in Vietnam in the 1960s are in some way connected to the forces that drove us into war in Iraq in 2003.
01:36:58.000Well, I'd have to agree with you there.
01:37:01.000And especially, I don't know if you've seen this confrontation, but We Are Change recently confronted Gary Hart.
01:37:08.000About his open letter to the leader of Iran, Ahmadinejad, where he alluded to the fact that, well, you know, the main in the U.S.S., the sinking of that ship, and of course the Gulf of Tonkin incident, you know, we know that this administration may stage an attack to invade, and it was a very thinly veiled threat.
01:37:28.000And when he talked about it, he was like, well, I wasn't threatening them personally, I was just saying how this administration very much wants to go with Iran, and in the past they've done these sorts of things.
01:37:37.000But then when he's asked about 9-11, he's like, well, there's no way 9-11 was in any way a false flag attack.
01:37:43.000Right, well, it's very hard for anyone who wants to be considered part of the establishment to... You know, it's as important to the people in power to marginalize the people talking about 9-11 as it was way back, and I'm old enough to remember this, to marginalize people who said that Kennedy wasn't killed by a lone nut.
01:38:07.000And yet we know there's virtually a consensus that Oswald didn't do it alone.
01:38:13.000And we know that among the people who thought it was a conspiracy were President Johnson and President Nixon.
01:38:18.000So we marginalized kooks were voicing publicly thoughts that were secretly shared in very high places.
01:38:27.000Absolutely, but it seems like the mainstream media still pushes the idea that Oswald was this lone shooter.
01:38:34.000I don't know if you got to see the 40th anniversary two-hour piece with Peter Jennings before he died.
01:38:39.000I never watched those things, but you know in advance what they're going to say.
01:38:44.000Yeah, I think it was called something like JFK Beyond Conspiracy, and they edited the footage and hacked it up to make it look like all these people had said that Oswald did it, and he was definitely the guy.
01:38:56.000And anybody who questions the official version, even though there are still a multitude of classified documents concerning the Kennedy assassination, You know, we're wrong to think there was anything going on there.
01:39:08.000Well, what really amused me was, you know, in 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations came out with a report that said there was a very high probability of shots coming also from the Grassy Knoll, in addition to the school book depository.
01:39:25.000I'm very sure about the Grassy Knoll shots.
01:39:27.000I'm not sure about the school book depository.
01:39:30.000Anyway, the reaction of the New York Times and the Washington Post on the same day in editorials was to say, so what?
01:39:37.000So it wasn't one lone nut, it was two lone nuts!
01:39:41.000Now, anyone who can force their mind to believe that sort of thing has been really deformed by participating in the twisted political processes of this country.
01:39:54.000Absolutely, and I'm glad that you brought up the House Select Intelligence Committee, because there you did.
01:39:58.000You had a government body saying, look, it looks like we have another shooter.
01:40:05.000There definitely seems to be something going on at the Grassy Knoll.
01:40:08.000And they put out this report, and it's virtually ignored.
01:40:10.000It's like, hey, yeah, there was a conspiracy.
01:40:12.000There was somebody else who shot Kennedy, but just move along.
01:40:15.000We're never going to try to find this person.
01:40:17.000We're never going to bring this back in a trial, and we're never going to question, you know, that Oswald Was the, uh, force behind, uh, Kennedy's death.
01:40:25.000And then, you know, the debunkers always like to say that we have to come up with this grand scheme where everything's connected.
01:40:32.000It's that the majority of evidence, the fact that they had, you know, CIA agents on the scene dressed up like tramps or bums, you know, right there.
01:40:42.000You know, that should set off red flags.
01:40:44.000The fact that we have on video the Secret Service agent, right before they pull the corner, getting told to back off the back of the car and being sent away right before he's shot in the head, that should raise huge alarm bells.
01:40:57.000The Secret Service should have been deployed.
01:41:00.000Actually, I'm talking about the Dallas Police here.
01:41:03.000The instructions, normal instructions by the are for motorcycles that would be deployed to each side of an open car with the president in it and for some reason those uh instructions were changed by the secret service just before the kennedy kennedy was assassinated oh yes there's many many things that are wrong
01:41:25.000what's nice about that acoustics evidence suggesting a second shot is that that's science and uh stephen uh stephen jones of course is using scientific analysis to look at what happened to the towers and building seven and And in the end, science may save us here, because it's very hard to argue with good science.
01:41:49.000Well, I'm glad you brought up Stephen Jones, because one of the more compelling pieces of evidence that suggests that some type of thermite may have been used is the fact that you have this molten metal pouring out of the tower a couple minutes before it crumbles.
01:42:04.000Yeah, and I've got it on several different angles.
01:42:07.000We covered it in our last movie, Loose Change Final Cut.
01:42:09.000And you can see that this thing is not dispersing over 60 or 70 floors, literally dropping 60, 70 floors, and still maintaining the same clarity, the same orange texture.
01:42:21.000So the debunkers come out, and they say, oh, well, that's aluminum from the plane.
01:42:27.000Well, Stephen Jones goes into the lab.
01:42:29.000He shows what molten aluminum looks like, especially when it's been mixed with, you know, paper and wood and furniture and all this other stuff.
01:42:38.000It looks nothing like the metal that's pouring out of the World Trade Center.
01:42:42.000And the problem is that, again, this molten steel could not be achieved unless we had about 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit for it to occur, yet jet fuel only burns at about 1,800 degrees, 1,850 at its hottest.
01:42:56.000So obviously, you know, that can't be from the jet fuel.
01:42:59.000You know, he puts out this scientific paper, he puts out the report, and it's ignored by the mainstream media, and then the debunkers switch from, oh, it's aluminum from the plane, to it's batteries.
01:43:10.000I mean, it seems like, you know, the people that don't want to believe this will throw out any ridiculous comment they can.
01:43:15.000And the people that are actually doing the science, like Stephen Jones, are just, you know, gone after and slandered in the mainstream media.
01:43:24.000Well, you can't expect to win these battles right away.
01:43:28.000But, you know, it wasn't clear at first if there would be a concerted effort to get the truth about 9-11.
01:43:37.000And now there are many, many people working on it.
01:43:40.000And at the beginning they said, well, yes, but there are no scientists working on it.
01:43:45.000And then you get people like Stephen Jones, who is a scientist.
01:43:49.000And they say, well, but his work and this is not peer reviewed.
01:43:52.000And now, of course, there is a journal where everything is peer reviewed.
01:43:56.000And I'm waiting for the regular physicists to wake up and pay more attention to this and They are beginning to do this in other countries, I believe.
01:44:07.000Um, you know, I think 9-11 is so important because our entire foreign and domestic policy is still based on what the government and mainstream media have told us about 9-11.
01:44:17.000I see more, you know, things being declassified as the administration leaves office.
01:44:22.000I see things like Able Danger coming to light.
01:44:26.000I see maybe part of the congressional report that was redacted probably coming to light, maybe being declassified.
01:44:34.000But don't you agree that until we get the truth about 9-11, we're not going to be able to change this country in a positive manner?
01:44:42.000We're not going to be able to get rid of things like Homeland Security or the Military Commissions Act or Patriot Acts 1 and 2, which have literally eviscerated the Constitution and Bill of Rights?
01:44:51.000I think one of the things that's become clear quite recently, in my book, The Road to 9-11, there are only two chapters about 9-11 itself.
01:45:01.000And I focus very narrowly on one thing, which is the behavior of Vice President Cheney in the so-called PEOC, or the bunker under the White House, and the proclamation of COG, continuity of government.
01:45:17.000I always say it really should be called change of government, because if you have a program that's going to suspend the Constitution, that's not exactly continuity.
01:45:26.000And we are now seeing more and more that... I said in my book that three of the things I think that were instituted by continuity of government were martial law, or the capacity for martial law, warrantless surveillance, and warrantless detention.
01:45:44.000And we now have a very good article in Radar magazine where it points out that Bush himself, when he was talking about the warrantless surveillance after it was revealed by James Risen in the New York Times, he said, well, we review it every 45 days as part of the procedures for ensuring continuity of government.
01:46:05.000So it's the president himself who has corroborated what I said and linked warrantless surveillance to COG planning, which really means the planning that Cheney and Rumsfeld have been engaged in for 20 years, going back to the days of Oliver North in the 1980s, when he was planning the same sort of thing, and it was revealed back then that these were plans for suspension of the Constitution.
01:46:35.000Sure, we had one person actually bring it up during the Iran-Contra hearings, and he brought up the fact that they were building these FEMA camps, and that they were going to suspend the Constitution and Congress's role in the government.
01:46:47.000And when he was asking about it, they said, well, you know, we can't really discuss that.
01:46:51.000We'd be more than happy to discuss it in a closed hearing where no one can hear anything.
01:46:55.000And it was a Democrat who said that, Senator Inouye.
01:46:58.000It was a Democrat who asked the question from Texas, Jack Brooks.
01:47:02.000And it was a Democrat, Senator Inouye, who said, well, we would have to go into executive session.
01:47:07.000And we have no way of knowing if they did, in fact, go into an executive session or not.
01:47:12.000And that really shatters the false left for paradigm.
01:47:15.000Like you said, it was Democrats and Republicans who were covering that up, obviously.
01:47:20.000It was the Reagan administration who was on trial there.
01:47:24.000But the Democrats, the ones saying, oh well, we can't talk about that, that needs to go into a closed hearing.
01:47:29.000I'm really glad you brought up continuity of government, because that's going to be a big feature, and especially Cheney's role in continuity of government in my new movie, Fabled Enemies.
01:47:38.000A lot of people don't understand that the bunker government, the shadow government, whatever you want to call it, was put into place publicly on 9-11 as the attacks occurred.
01:47:49.000When Cheney went down into that PEOC, and you know, there's all sorts of You know, timeline discrepancies.
01:47:56.000You know, according to Cheney himself in the very beginning, he was there prior to the Pentagon strike.
01:48:02.000Then when they figured out that Norm Mineta testified and said, oh, you know, there was an aide walking in while the plane was approaching the Pentagon.
01:48:09.000He was discussing things with Cheney like the plane is 50 miles out.
01:48:23.000The threatening orders had been given by the president at that point, which would have been the constitutional authority for them.
01:48:31.000And there was no warnings given to Pentagon personnel that anything was approaching that building, when in fact they knew something was approaching that building.
01:48:39.000And then you have the 9-11 Commission report that whitewashes the entire thing, and says, well, he wasn't in that bunker till 9-54, so none of that actually happened.
01:48:48.000Now, just recently... It's interesting, the report is actually... I was very glad to have that report, because it helps define the area... Not all of the report is lies, by any means, but when they do ignore testimony, such as Cheney's own testimony, they ignore the whole Minetta story, they don't say a word.
01:49:09.000About how the towers went down, or about Building 7, then it helps define what are the sensitive areas that they're covering up.
01:49:18.000And, you know, Cheney being in that bunker is a huge deal.
01:49:21.000I also have an article that Cheney was the one who warned Giuliani that the tower was going to come down.
01:49:29.000He was making all sorts of calls, and Giuliani had gone on Barbara Walters a few days after the attacks and discussed how Cheney was the one that actually made that phone call to him.
01:49:39.000Well, how would Cheney know that the towers were going to come down?
01:49:41.000You know, how is Cheney the guy in charge of this order?
01:49:45.000Then you find out that Scott Fry signs this memo a couple months before 9-11, I want to say it was in July, where shoot-down authority is put solely into the hands of the Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, or whoever's Secretary of Defense at the time, or the President.
01:50:01.000You know, taking it away from lieutenants, colonels, who may have seen a threat.
01:50:05.000I think you're talking about intercept procedures, is that correct?
01:50:08.000Um, not, not just the, they could intercept them, but they couldn't shoot them down, yeah.
01:50:11.000The shift on all this was, at the top level, what the great innovation was, that as of June 1st, to intercept a plane, which merely means sending a fighter up to find out what's happening.
01:50:22.000The normal procedure, there were 78 such interceptions in the months leading up before June 2001.
01:50:31.000And that too, the language was that any military activity had to be handled by highest authority.
01:50:40.000Well, a military plane going up is a military activity and that is clearly what Alright, we'll be back after this with Peter DelScott.
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01:55:06.000We're with Peter Dale Scott, and we're talking continuity of government.
01:55:11.000And I just wanted to get your take on the war games that they were running on the morning of 9-11.
01:55:17.000Obviously, there were many intersecting war games, but one in particular has really caught my eye, and that's Global Guardian, which is the mass Armageddon exercise that lasted before 9-11.
01:55:30.000But the thing that caught my eye was the fact that they had five E-4B doomsday planes, which are command centers for this bunker or shadow government, basically in case of a nuclear attack or continuity of government procedures going into place.
01:55:45.000And we know, I mean, CNN's now had to do a report on it, that one of these planes was indeed on the scene of the Pentagon strike.
01:55:56.000That's a very good question, and you know, it was on film at the time.
01:56:02.000It was exhibited on CNN that very day.
01:56:05.000It could be seen from the people who were outside the White House.
01:56:10.000It was flying around in the whole Washington area, not just the Pentagon.
01:56:15.000And yes, of course, their main base is Offutt, and that's where Bush went when he left.
01:56:25.000There's so much that we don't know, and I think that, as I understand it, these things, the 9-11 Commission requested documents that they knew about, and there were whole levels of classification that they didn't break into.
01:56:45.000This is why they can't find, I believe, there obviously was a shoot-down order issued on that day, and they couldn't find it.
01:56:54.000And I think the reason is that the shoot-down order and the order for continuity of government, which by the way, the Commission confirms that it was instituted, but they don't really, they know when it came out, but they don't know what that means.
01:57:10.000I think that everything to do with COG was so classified that it even used a special communications network, and that's why I think the These things were being talked about by Cheney, not even in the bunker.
01:57:25.000There was, after all, a Democrat in the bunker, Norman Mineta.
01:57:29.000He was talking about them in a telephone that was in the tunnel between the bunker and the White House.
01:57:37.000And I think the main reason to having a telephone there was to have something for a classification that was even higher than what people in the bunker were cleared to be party to, which is And so, yes, we don't know anything.
01:57:52.000We have no documents about those command planes.
01:57:56.000But it does suggest that there was a very high degree of mobilization on that day at the time that the attack occurred.
01:58:05.000And the report says in a kind of limp way, well, this may have facilitated I'm with you, Peter.
02:00:15.000You can go check out my stuff over at loosechange911.com, or you can go over to the Info Wars shop and pick up Loose Change there, or Loose Change The Final Cut But we're talking continuity of government and 9-11 with Peter Dale Scott, obviously an accomplished scholar and author.
02:00:33.000And, you know, you just mentioned a few things that I want to truck over.
02:00:37.000You said, look, you know, they could declare martial law.
02:00:39.000Well, Jeb Bush declared martial law in Florida a few days before 9-11, knowing well that his brother was going to be there on the morning of 9-11.
02:00:48.000And then you also discussed how Bush was taken to Offutt Air Force Base before going back to D.C.
02:00:53.000Well, he was taken to Offutt and Barksdale, two of the places where these drills were actually going on.
02:00:59.000And, you know, to get back to this E-4B thing, according to the official version, you know, these E-4Bs were landed immediately after and during the attacks.
02:01:08.000Now, I don't know if you're aware of this, but there's a video of yet another white plane on the scene of the World Trade Center in restricted airspace after the first plane strike, but before the second.
02:01:18.000Now, it doesn't have the exact... it's a pretty blurry video.
02:01:52.000You know, I've listened through these tapes, and I have a general on the phone to Cheyenne Mountain after Flight 93 has been downed, asking them to please take the inputs off the screen.
02:02:04.000And as you mentioned before the break, you know, Richard Myers went before the 9-11 Commission and said, oh, this helped our response because we had all these people at the command centers during these field training exercises.
02:02:15.000Yet, how could it help their response when they didn't stop any of the attacks?
02:02:20.000People at the need center complaining that they couldn't tell what was real and what was fake.
02:02:26.000Maybe not everyone in the audience understands that there were radar blips sort of entered into the radar screens to simulate approaching planes.
02:02:40.000And in addition, there was some real-time plane activity also, and what those planes were, I don't know.
02:02:46.000This is more your expertise than mine, because you handle photography, and I, of course, just handle text.
02:02:55.000Well, you know, it just drives me nuts that I have all these people saying, oh, you're debunked!
02:03:02.000But you listen to the tapes, and they're obviously confused.
02:03:05.000You go to the records, and you find out, well, The National Reconnaissance Office, you know, with a team from the CIA, is running a drill at 845 in the morning of ramming planes into buildings.
02:03:16.000And I have this other clip that I'm going to be putting into Fabled Enemies.
02:03:20.000The governor of Maryland went on TV that morning and said that the local police, Dave Mitchell had called him, and said that he had a list of targets that included the World Trade Center and Pentagon on his desk.
02:03:33.000you know, early in the morning saying that they were going to be attacked, and a list of others, like the Sears Tower was on there, and I believe the World Trade Center in Baltimore.
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02:04:04.000And what interests me about the other targets is, you know, the official line is that the four hijacked aircraft didn't even emit a hijack code.
02:04:12.000In other words, these guys took it over.
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02:07:58.000All right, we are back with Peter Dale Scott, and we're talking 9-11. - Good afternoon.
02:08:09.000Peter, you know, we talked a lot about, you know, continuity of government.
02:08:12.000We talked a lot about the drills now and possible foreign knowledge.
02:08:16.000I'd like to get your take on the initial congressional investigation, because a lot of people don't even realize that that investigation took place.
02:08:23.000They don't realize that it was headed by Porter Goss and Bob Graham, two of the guys that were meeting with the head of the Pakistani ISI on the morning of 9-11.
02:08:34.000That this man had wired $100,000 to ATA just prior to the attacks, which according to the official version would be one-fifth of the Al-Qaeda funding for the operation.
02:08:55.000uh... in december of oh two and he actually said that there was a lot of evidence that foreign governments got governments were involved in the attack and not only the financial funding but other aspects as well and then when he was pressed on it he said that it was going to be classified for the next twenty to thirty years and wouldn't become public until it was turned over to the archives i ask you how can it happen we have a report that redacts twenty seven pages of foreign government involvement and then have an official report doesn't even include any of this information
02:09:26.000Well, there is a book out now about the 9-11 Commission by Philip Shannon, who's a New York Times reporter.
02:09:36.000There was a big fight in that section of the staff of the 9-11 Commission.
02:09:43.000The staff wanted to go back to the same material and they were overruled.
02:09:48.000We know essentially what that part of the
02:09:54.000A classified part of the Joint Committee report said it was talking about the fact that when two of the key hijackers, or alleged hijackers, I should say, Al Hamza, came from this meeting in Malaysia, they were met at the airport by somebody who pretty clearly is some kind of intelligent asset for Saudi Arabia.
02:10:23.000And they were given money, and a place was found for them to stay, and the man who was involved later changed his story.
02:10:32.000See, we now have, there's an FBI timeline for everything that happened, and it's being released, I think, in the last three or four months.
02:10:43.000And in that timeline, we have these, Al-Midar and Al-Hamza are met at the airport by somebody with a very strong connection to Saudi Arabia.
02:10:53.000The man who takes care of passing the money and finding it, they actually located them in his own apartment building.
02:11:01.000And this was leaked out of that joint committee to Newsweek in January of 2003, I think it is.
02:11:13.000And the result of all that was that Graham was told that he... Graham was investigated and told that he faced indictment.
02:11:23.000But we still have never had an official recognition of the fact that these two hijackers were here on some kind of government, Saudi-sponsored government.
02:11:36.000One book that does talk about this, Lawrence White writes book, The Looming Tower, and even more clearly in an article he did for The New Yorker.
02:11:47.000Where he says that, of course, the CIA is not by law allowed to sponsor intelligence operations inside this country, but it's possible that they were clued into a Saudi intelligence operation, and that al-Hamza and al-Midar We're part of that Saudi intelligence operation.
02:12:09.000Well, that seems to tie in with J. Michael Springman, the whistleblower who was working at the consulate in Jeddah in the mid-80s, early 90s, when he would, you know, tell these guys, no, you can't have a visa to go into the United States, and he would be overruled by his superiors, and they would tell him it was for national security reasons.
02:12:29.000And one of the times he was overruled was the blind Sheikh, who was the kind of intellectual Yeah, it's all very odd how it's connected in that manner.
02:12:43.000And, you know, he goes on to say that he was told by other people within the CIA that they had been doing this through the mid-80s with their asset, Osama bin Laden, to funnel these guys into our country.
02:12:53.000I don't know that Osama was directly a CIA asset.
02:12:58.000He certainly worked closely with the Saudi government.
02:13:01.000But a man who did work with the CIA is Ali Mohammed.
02:13:04.000Have you talked about Ali Mohammed on this show before?
02:13:16.000He was, at a minimum, it's admitted, he was an FBI agent.
02:13:21.000Uh, informant, although, uh, all that the Commission heard was that he had applied for a job as an FBI... No, clearly he was an FBI informant, and this became obvious in 19... Uh, sorry, um... Yes, 1993, he was picked up by the Canadians in Vancouver Airport, because he was in the company of a known terrorist, and he gave the RCMP a telephone number and said, phone this number and you will release me.
02:14:28.000And after 9-11, he told his FBI handler, yes, I knew the hijackers, and I told them where to sit in the plane up in first class, and I advised them to use box cutters and so on.
02:14:42.000Very, very high-level man at the center of Al Qaeda's plot.
02:14:47.000And at a minimum, an FBI informant that I think really was a CIA asset, and it's again admitted that at one point he was.
02:15:33.000And I have a whole chapter about him in my book, The Road to 9-11.
02:15:38.000I believe that the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993 would never have happened if they hadn't been covering up for what this man was doing.
02:15:50.000Some of the people he was training in Brooklyn and outside New York became involved in the murder of Meir Kahan, and they knew that it was conspiracy, and they found a whole lot of terrorist training manuals
02:16:08.000That Ali Mohammed had supplied from Fort Bragg to them, and then they came out and said that they had one man, and they stopped there and said this man was familiar language for Americans, he was a lone nut who acted all by himself, when they already had picked up his two associates and had all this incriminating evidence, which was suppressed The other two went on to take part in the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.
02:16:56.000Well, they didn't want to talk about it after their exact names, you know, list of their addresses and their licenses as that Pensacola Navy station.
02:17:03.000And this is one of the conspicuous gaps in the 9-11 report.
02:17:07.000We really have major problems about who the alleged hijackers were.
02:17:12.000It would have been very unusual, actually, for Al Qaeda to get on planes using their own names.
02:17:17.000Well, again, you know, in my new film, I have Diane Albrin, who was a neighbor of Waleed al-Sharif, who actually called the CIA on him, and she went public the next day.
02:17:26.000Again, this is Fox Washington, and she's like, yeah, I called the CIA on them, and they weren't interested.
02:17:31.000Well, why wouldn't the CIA be interested in these people that were supposedly on the terror watch list that had all these connections?
02:17:37.000We know, again, two of them lived with and rented from an FBI informant.
02:17:42.000And if this whole thing is real, this, Al-Qaeda is the number one terrorism group in America and we have to get Al-Qaeda, why is it that the Washington Post is now reporting on Sunday that all the people involved in the USS Cole bombing have either escaped or been let go?
02:17:59.000You would think, you know, we have these institutions of Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, these would be top priority guests in those facilities.
02:18:07.000Yeah, of course they were let go in Yemen.
02:18:11.000But this goes to the heart of the problem.
02:18:14.000You see, we work with governments who themselves engage in terrorism.
02:18:21.000And we haven't even mentioned Pakistan yet.
02:18:23.000Pakistan would probably be the number one example.
02:18:27.000Pakistan's ISI was our principal asset in Afghanistan in the 1980s.
02:18:34.000And we did things Pakistan's way, which meant that half the aid that we sent to Afghanistan in the 80s ended up in the hands of a man called Hekmatyar, who was passionately anti-American and was an ally of bin Laden, and ended up being a backer of the Taliban against the Americans.
02:19:00.000And another man, Haqqani, by the way, principal CIA asset.
02:19:04.000in Afghanistan is now a principal supporter of the Taliban.
02:19:09.000We did all of these things to please Pakistan because, well, why?
02:19:15.000Because, you know, because of programs that have been in place for decades.
02:19:22.000Pakistan is not, if you want to bring democracy to Asia, Pakistan is not a good country to use as your sort of land-based aircraft carrier.
02:19:33.000Uh, but we were stuck with these allies and that has contaminated all of our policies.
02:19:40.000Alright, we're going to be back with Peter Dale Scott after the break.
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02:24:38.000It's a book that's 35, 36 years old, folks, and he just has a plethora of work.
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02:24:57.000We're going to go to your calls in this final segment with Peter Dale Scott.
02:25:25.000Well, we don't know the real author, but it came from France, and we think probably French intelligence.
02:25:33.000The books ended up in the In the doorway of a friend of mine, Bill Turner, and I have a copy.
02:25:41.000It's got some useful information and I think it's got some disinformation.
02:25:46.000But, you know, we knew so little about the Kennedy assassination back then that it was a useful book.
02:25:51.000Today, I don't think it's very useful.
02:25:54.000I want to go back to 9-1-1 and say, on the issue of the FAA and these video Telecommunication bridges or phone bridges as they're colloquially known.
02:26:14.000There was a 9-1-1, a Truth 9-1-1 writer that mentioned that Jane Garvey had either testified or in an interview that slipped out that they had redundant communications even before
02:26:34.000Uh, you know, the first plane hitting the towers and as a matter of law or regulation, they probably have to maintain a constant, um, um, you know, official phone links.
02:26:49.000And, uh, what is, what is your, uh, information on the maintenance of those and the coverup?
02:26:56.000Uh, because those are not now available.
02:26:59.000Well, you know, this is a bit out of my area because it's technical.
02:27:05.000I've talked to a man called Robin Horton, who was himself an air traffic controller once.
02:27:12.000I think the most alarming symptom is the fact that a lot of the FAA people involved recorded their experience of that day, and then a supervisor came around and took all the tapes And before their eyes, chopped them up into little pieces and threw it in the garbage can.
02:27:32.000I should have said several garbage cans.
02:27:34.000So there has been a massive cover-up in this area.
02:27:39.000And by the way, I want to alert you and everybody to the fact that the Commission said that their documents, their exhibits, which they did not release, unlike the Warren Commission, which did, Would be released starting in January 2009.
02:27:55.000Well, the National Archive at present is trying to process those documents for release.
02:28:00.000They got help, they got cooperation from the FBI, and after quite a long delay, they're beginning to get cooperation from the CIA.
02:28:10.000They haven't even had an answer to their letters from the Department of Defense and from the FAA.
02:28:16.000Who are, I think, two of the principally involved agencies here, so if there isn't some kind of pressure on Congress to get a law requiring these agencies to release their documents, we may never know.
02:28:31.000I unfortunately don't have the technical competence to get into an area that is, of course, extremely important, and some people have done very good work in this area.
02:28:44.000All right, let's shoot to Greg in New Jersey.
02:28:52.000The thing that really blows my mind after serving in the military for as long as I did is that they're trying to tell us that every Air Force, whether it be Naval or U.S.
02:29:03.000Air Force, somehow could not in any way, shape, or form intercept or at least get airborne.
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02:31:09.000In 1837, the young Mrs. Crawford was a happy wife and busy Texas pioneer mother of two little children.
02:31:15.000But a cruel, cunning, Comanche Indian raid changed all that.
02:31:19.000Changed her to a young widow and an Indian prisoner.
02:31:22.000Her story is told in a history book I read, quote, One of this lady's children was a little daughter about two months old, and as the Indians were tired of hearing it cry, they determined to kill it.
02:31:33.000An Indian snatched it from the arms of its mother and threw it in a deep pool of water with the intention of drowning the poor little innocent.
02:31:41.000The heroic mother, caring more for her tender offspring than her own safety, dashed boldly into the stream to save it from a watery grave.
02:31:49.000The Indians were amused by her frantic efforts to save her child from drowning, and as soon as she reached the bank with it, they threw it in again and continued the sport until the child was nearly drowned and the poor woman was almost exhausted.
02:32:02.000At last, one of them seized the child, drew back its head, and told another to cut its throat.
02:32:08.000The frantic mother seeing the dreadful order was about to be executed.
02:34:22.000I almost told the family, look, we're not going swimming.
02:34:24.000We're not going to a picnic because I never take off.
02:34:27.000I'm going to come in and talk about these police because I saw the footage of Philadelphia Where they pull a car over and, like, 25 cops come in and beat and Billy Club, but they run up like wild monkeys on the non-resisting citizens and start kicking and jumping on the car like gorillas.
02:34:47.000I mean, if these are supposed mad dog killers, the police shouldn't run up to their car.
02:34:53.000And then they pull them out, Billy Club them, beat them.
02:34:56.000The guys don't resist, but they charge them with resisting.
02:34:58.000You know, I try to like the cops, but they've been brainwashed.
02:35:01.000They've been conditioned, you know, to carry this out.
02:35:05.000And then I saw people on the message board at Infowars.com were commenting, so I'm saying, hey, this is good, because they watch the newscast where they go, well, they thought the guys might have been involved in a shooting in another part of the city a few days before a cop got shot in town, so they're on edge.
02:35:23.000And the cops say, we're going to go ahead and charge them for us beating them up, and it's all on close-up video.
02:35:30.000Yeah, I mean, these guys get soccer kicked.
02:35:40.000When the cops first get there, they attack the car.
02:35:43.000They're like mad dogs, but that's not enough.
02:35:47.000Then, footage comes out in Austin, or right outside Austin, where a guy with no criminal record, well spoken, he gets pulled over for not using a turn signal.
02:35:57.000And the cop wants to search his car, so the young man says no.
02:36:00.000We're going to get him on the show, by the way, for the next two days.
02:36:26.000Where you got this guy, he's demonstrating, they're trying to make him do a sobriety test in the police station, and the guy says, look, I'm tired of doing this, you've just been choking me.
02:36:37.000Now that's the one that the cops released.
02:37:42.000I just want the police to know that's because the country, the world, is going into receivership.
02:37:47.000You've been trained to do this so as things bankrupt, so you can take control.
02:37:52.000And I just saw people on there defending them because they put out this propaganda about how this guy had You know, these guys, they beat up in Philadelphia.
02:38:04.000It said, well, they thought they might have been suspects.
02:38:07.000But then they didn't charge him with the quote, crime they said they thought they might have been involved in.
02:38:12.000First, they had to dehumanize him in the media.
02:38:15.000And then they say they charge him with assaulting the cops.
02:38:18.000I mean, now on video, I mean, it's come out with Cedric Benson, with the Washington, I mean, the Chicago Bear.
02:38:28.000That this private force, these true private mercenaries, that's what LCRA is.
02:39:32.000He's got his hands to his side, they execute him to make sure he died.
02:39:35.000They then bound him real tight while he bled to death.
02:39:37.000And, uh, you know, this is what they do.
02:39:39.000This is... And it's just tearing my guts out to know that my children are growing up in a country that isn't free.
02:39:46.000And, uh, you know, to know that my... You know, this coverage has never been perfect.
02:39:50.000But, I mean, this is like Reconstruction or something, where just paramilitary gangs are just running around Folks, watch the movie Outlaw Josie Wells.
02:40:35.000The people are waking up, and I beg good police out there to get past your quote, brotherhood, and the weird gang cult you're in, the gang psychology.
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02:41:30.000Only two screenings, and if you don't catch it at the Alamo, you're going to wait at least a month to get it on DVD over at Infowars.com.
02:41:37.000All right, switching gears, we do have William Lewis, the creator of Washington You're Fired, also involved in some other great pictures, Beyond Treason, In Plain Sight, Ripple Effect, did all the editing work there.
02:41:50.000It's an honor to have you on, William.
02:41:58.000In fact, In Plain Sight was one of the first documentaries outside of the Alex Jones Library that I was able to share with my family and friends and really get a reaction.
02:42:08.000It was really a tight-knit 60 or 70-minute documentary, depending on which version you got, that really opened a lot of people's eyes up to the physical evidence.
02:42:19.000And now you've gone out on your own and you've done this, uh, I'd even call it kind of like a Mr. Lewis goes to Washington and gotten all these pundits, have all this great footage of how our rights have been eviscerated, all this tasering footage, you know, from the don't tase me bro guy to, uh, like Alex said, the kid who wouldn't show his identification in a library and was physically assaulted for it.
02:42:39.000I mean, why don't you just tell people about this new project?
02:42:43.000Well, this new project took us, uh, A couple of years to actually assemble, and it wasn't our intention necessarily to go in this covering 9-1-1, but you know it's really hard to talk about any of today's current politics without bringing it up because it applies to just about everything we're talking about.
02:43:01.000So we went out to some events that were going on in Washington over a couple year period and interviewed people West Coast, East Coast, just trying to get a good even Um, perspective of how the American people truly feel, and I mean, they were very candid.
02:43:21.000There's hardly one person that we talked to who didn't understand that there was some type of a problem going on in this country, and we didn't have to tell them about all the legislation that was, you know, taking place in the past seven years.
02:43:32.000Many of them were aware of, you know, the U.S.A.
02:43:35.000Patriot Act or the John Warner Defense Act or whatever, the Military Commissions Act, and, you know, they would give us the solution that they Uh, one to see implemented right there on the spot.
02:43:45.000And, you know, that's what's so great about this is because you don't know what the American people are willing to do unless you go talk to them and ask them, okay, we've got a problem.
02:43:54.000What are you willing to do to fix the problem?
02:43:57.000And, you know, overwhelmingly in our conversations with these people, uh, running for office comes up as a, you know, this is our last ditch effort.
02:44:07.000In other words, you know, this is It's no longer a matter of just going and voting, and this is going to be my contribution to our political system.
02:44:16.000It's just getting the right guy in office.
02:44:19.000The executive branch is supposed to have the same power as any of the other three branches.
02:44:24.000So what good is that one man going to do?
02:44:26.000If he goes in there and he says, I'm going to follow the Constitution, I'm not going to usurp any extra power for the executive branch.
02:44:32.000Then truly, what power does he have over those other two branches?
02:44:37.000We've got to infiltrate The legislative branch.
02:44:41.000We've got to put people into office that we know are people like you and me.
02:44:45.000People who know what the Constitution says and, you know, aren't willing to play the games of Washington, in other words.
02:44:54.000You know, bring back the checks and balances again.
02:44:56.000You know, isn't that the goal, is to actually have a government for and by the people once more?
02:45:00.000And I think one of the big problems is that, you know, your average congressman or senator is making, you know, somewhere between $80,000 and $100,000 a year for doing that job, and they're making millions if not billions in the private sector for the very same lobbyists that help their campaign out.
02:45:45.000And, you know, people's civil liberties and their rights just go by the wayside, because corporations don't care about anything except the bottom line, which is the profit line.
02:45:56.000And, you know, if they're not making profit, if the government's not making profit, Then, you know, they're not achieving their goal, in other words.
02:46:07.000Their bottom line is the almighty dollar and profit and really control because, you know, again, the lobbyists control whether these guys get elected or not.
02:46:16.000It's very rare that anybody is actually able to win a congressional campaign or a senatorial campaign.
02:46:23.000I mean, the one time I can say it happened is when Governor Jesse Ventura got in.
02:46:28.000But if you're not backed by these people, you don't have commercials, you don't have public awareness, and you really don't have a shot at that office.
02:46:36.000I think that definitely needs to change in this country, and I think it needs to be an awakening of the people to get them re-energized to follow politics once more in this country.
02:46:46.000More people are interested in American Idol and that kind of nonsense and their local sports team than they even know what the three branches of government are.
02:46:54.000I mean, how many times have I walked up to somebody and said, you know, what are the three branches of government?
02:46:58.000And they're like, I don't know what you mean.
02:47:10.000You know, national security privileges are invoked, new agencies are erected, such as the Homeland Security Agency, and new bills are passed, eviscerating everyday people's rights, such as the Military Commissions Act, which ended habeas corpus, which has been around since 1215 in the Magna Carta.
02:47:28.000Yeah, and you know, the funny thing about all this is that the people that they put in place kind of as their They're gatekeepers to be able to supposedly regulate all of these things.
02:47:38.000In other words, if somebody has to go to FISA and say, we need a court order to search or to do whatever, then FISA generally grants that warrant.
02:47:54.000But we just saw a report come out, what was it, a week ago?
02:47:59.000Those FISA requests for spying on you have doubled since 9-1-1, and those are just the programs that we know about.
02:48:10.000The ones that we talk about in Washington, you're fired, are the secret programs that they don't want you to know about.
02:48:17.000Yes, the ones that Gonzales is up there giving his testimony on, telling you that No, we're not spying on you on this program.
02:48:29.000The question that you just asked me doesn't pertain to the program that we're speaking to today.
02:48:33.000That word programming, that's their code word, that's their wordplay, the way they get away with lying to your faith and you don't know it.
02:48:44.000We had a guy go public for AT&T saying that all of the information AT&T was getting was wired into the quote-unquote secret room.
02:48:51.000He tried to bring this up in a court of law.
02:48:54.000And then now he's in a battle basically suing these guys.
02:49:01.000Uh, trying to bring this to light and they're deciding whether or not he can actually sue him.
02:49:04.000And the only time I saw this presented in the mainstream media was on Keith Olbermann for eight minutes.
02:49:09.000And when I bring it up, most people look at me like I have a third eye and I'm like, no, listen, this guy got on TV and said, look, all of your phone calls are going into this one area.
02:49:17.000All your emails are going into this one area and it's a secure room by our government.
02:49:22.000Our government should not be tracking and tracing every little thing we do.
02:49:28.000You know, we know about 15 others spread throughout the country, not that you necessarily need to have access to all those.
02:49:36.000I mean, just being able to tap into the hub of just one telecommunications hub is enough to get you just about anything that you need.
02:49:45.000I mean, every electronic communication that you can possibly imagine.
02:49:50.000We're talking about blanket data mining every single American.
02:49:53.000You know, if you don't have a problem with your telephone conversations, Well, if you don't have anything to hide, then what are you afraid of?
02:50:06.000Why are you afraid of them listening to your telephone conversation?
02:50:09.000Well, it's a simple matter of privacy, and it's indicated in every single amendment that we have in the Bill of Rights.
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02:55:23.000You know, that's why I love organizations like We Are Change so much is because, you know, they're not just paying lip service.
02:55:28.000They're not just doing a radio show like I'm doing now.
02:55:31.000They're not just on the message boards.
02:55:33.000They're outside, on the streets, trying to convert those who have no idea about this information.
02:55:37.000And that's why movies like yours are such great tools, because, you know, you go out, you get a copy, you make other copies, you share them with your friends and family, you host dinner parties and you show them this information, and maybe you can turn the light on in a mind that hasn't been awoken yet.
02:56:58.000Yeah, this question, William Lewis, is off of something I got off the internet.
02:57:02.000Basically, it's a quote, and it has to do with journalistic integrity.
02:57:07.000It says that, I'll be the first to admit, loose change definitely contains errors and still contains some dubious claims and definitely does come to conclusions that are not totally backed by facts.
02:57:17.000Loose change is not a fair representation of the 9-11 truth movement.
02:57:21.000I would recommend 9-11 pressed for truth.
02:57:25.000That's Dylan Avery that I was talking about and if someone who made the movie Loose Change has such a low opinion of it, I was wondering how Mr. Lewis would expect Or what you think people should expect from movies like Loose Change who claim to be a part of the truth movement, when actually they have no facts backing them up.
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03:00:07.000And I just, I have to address that last caller because, again, he's calling in every time that I do the show, Every time I'm sitting in with Alex, and he just created a straw man argument out of nowhere.
03:00:16.000He claims that we said that Todd Beamer didn't die.
03:00:21.000In any of our movies, did we say that Todd Beamer didn't die?
03:00:24.000If you look at Loose Change 2nd Edition, and Loose Change Final Cut, you'll see that there is ample evidence that no plane crashed in an open field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
03:00:37.000We went and interviewed the mayor of Indian Lake, and the only reason he thought that a plane had crashed there is because that's what the FBI told him.
03:00:44.000He didn't see any playing parts, neither did Ernie Stull of Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
03:00:49.000So if you're gonna come on the show and you're gonna make some kind of outlandish claim that we said that Todd Beamer's not dead, which we didn't do, you better back it up.
03:00:57.000And this guy calls in and he's just a smarmy know-it-all.
03:01:01.000You know, William, what's your take on people like that?
03:01:04.000I like to talk to people like that personally.
03:01:08.000I don't want everyone to agree with what I have to say.
03:01:13.000I like to get on and talk about the issues.
03:01:15.000But this issue of these types of documentaries not being a part of the truth movement because they don't present the right kind of evidence.
03:01:22.000There is no right kind of evidence or wrong kind of evidence.
03:01:26.000There has been no judge that has looked at this evidence.
03:01:29.000There's been no trial, no jury, no, you know, the system that you would expect to be in place to examine the evidence for a trial, it hasn't happened.
03:01:38.000So until that point in time when it does happen, we have to treat all evidence equally.
03:01:45.000And this guy, what this guy is saying is that, and I've heard people out there say this before, you know, you can't talk about the flash.
03:01:53.000You can't talk about, you know, things of that nature.
03:01:55.000Maybe lasers that were pointed at the building and stuff like that.
03:01:57.000I mean, in my personal opinion right now is that the video and photographic evidence is some of the most damning evidence that we have against the government, and it should be used and it should be Should be seen by people to let them make up their own mind.
03:02:11.000And you know, one of my big things is when people bring up a quote-unquote flight 175, I say, look, you know, we have five different angles of this plane hitting the building.
03:02:41.000In, I think, six or seven of the videos that clearly show the underside.
03:02:45.000The only markings I can ever see on that plane is possibly the United logo on the tail.
03:02:50.000But it still doesn't explain why a gray plane hit that building.
03:02:53.000So, you know, I'm one of those guys that always takes that into consideration.
03:02:57.000I don't like to smear other people because they cover You know, certain aspects of 9-11 truth.
03:03:02.000What really gets me are the people that are really just out there to provocateur the situation.
03:03:07.000The people that try to say no planes hit the buildings, or space beams took down the towers, or that reptilian Jews who drink blood run everything.
03:03:15.000You know, those... I mean, and I know you come across those people, because I come across those people.
03:03:47.000Since Mr. Lewis doesn't mind debating people, I was wondering why you hang up with me instead of talking about these things like Flight 93.
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03:07:54.000We are switching gears to Irene Spencer, the best-selling author of Shattered Dreams, and we're going to be discussing the Texas sect, the polygamous sect, that was recently raided, and get her story.
03:08:07.000But we're going to be taking phone calls in the last half an hour of the show, and I'd just like to invite that caller to call in, and I'll give you the last 20 minutes or so to discuss whatever you want, buddy.
03:08:17.000So, that being said, let's get to Irene Spencer.
03:08:20.000Irene, thank you so much for coming on.
03:08:24.000Well, why don't you just, you know, I'm reading over your bio here, but why don't you just basically tell your story for the audience?
03:08:31.000Well, I was born in Salt Lake City in 1937, and at the time that I was born, I was the 13th of my father's 31 children, and he had four wives living in the same house at the time.
03:08:43.000So here you're lost in the shuffle of all these little children, and I grew up all my life in Plygamy, We more or less hid under the radar, trying to not let people know who we were, and we had to lie about who our father was.
03:08:58.000In 1944, Utah raided the polygamists, and my dad, along with some other men, spent over two years in Utah State Prison for polygamy.
03:09:10.000So when I saw all these women and children being bused and taken out, it just was deja vu to me.
03:09:18.000Because in 1953, Governor Pyle raided Short Creek, Arizona, which is now known as Colorado City.
03:10:47.000And I would say that, you know, just from reading this, it feels like, you know, these polygamous sex use a sort of mind control to keep you there.
03:11:01.000I am from five generations of polygamy.
03:11:05.000And my grandmother was a second wife, my mother was a second wife, and neither of them ever spoke out against anything, so of course I didn't.
03:11:13.000And when I was 16, I followed in my mother's footsteps, and I too married my sister's husband, as my mother had done.
03:11:21.000And in polygamy, they marry sisters and cousins and your best friends, so that they can take you to heaven, because that's what keeps people there, the brainwashing.
03:11:31.000They're told that the man will become a god, he will have his own world, And he will take all these wives and these children with him, and they make a promise to the women that they'll have a baby every year, that they won't let a year go by without having one.
03:11:44.000And the average polygamist woman has a dozen children.
03:11:48.000I know many, many of them that have 18, 19, 21, and 22 children.
03:11:54.000And I say that the women are just the breeding stock that keep these movements expanding and alive.
03:12:02.000And the SLDS, when in Texas and Arizona, they actually marry the girls off.
03:12:29.000There's been documented over 400 of them.
03:12:32.000Uh, by a fellow in Salt Lake named Dan Fisher, and he's trying to find homes and education for these young boys, but, uh, I know because they're my nieces and nephews.
03:12:42.000Well, I would say that, you know, obviously myself and my listeners absolutely agree with you that, you know, these are far from ideal situations for any youth to be put into.
03:12:53.000But what really troubles me about this Texas sect raid is that they did not use due process.
03:13:00.000Now, you know, if this stuff is going on, which it certainly does seem to be, why do you think it is that they don't go through the court system?
03:13:09.000I mean, do you think it's because these people would be able to get away, or why is it that they just go in and take them?
03:13:16.000I personally do not know why the government has done it, but it actually frightens me, because I think that later on, people can come in and do anything with your families, and anything.
03:13:28.000And they say the telephone call wasn't even made by someone from the inside.
03:13:34.000If there is child abuse, then it needs to be taken care of.
03:13:38.000But I am against them coming in and taking the children away, and I'll tell you why.
03:13:43.000All of us, including me, for years, were taught that the outside world was wicked.
03:13:47.000They were out to get us, to kill us, that Satan was going to destroy us.
03:13:51.000And when you take these little children that have been taught that all their life, and put them in these foster homes, I think they are terrified.
03:13:59.000And I still have Uh, the pain and the memories of me when I was a child, and having that fear of being torn away.
03:14:08.000And that these mothers are good mothers, they love their children, and I myself had 13 of my husband's 58 children.
03:14:16.000My husband had 10 wives at the same time.
03:14:18.000And, uh, I just can't imagine having my children torn from me.
03:14:22.000And what you guys need to realize is both children are the only thing these women have.
03:14:27.000They have been given to a man, whether they want to marry him or not, because they feel it's God's will, and their children are all they have, and I think it's wrong.
03:14:36.000The main thing that frightens me is, in my own case, I have had nine nieces and nephews and one first cousin that committed suicide.
03:14:44.000And I am afraid that that's going to be very prevalent in this group before very long, because they're going to figure that they have gone to hell.
03:14:52.000Well, I'm glad that we're on the same page there.
03:14:55.000What would you like to see happen to the wives and the children?
03:15:00.000I think what needs to be done is that they need to have some input, get some good psychologists and people that can talk to them and make them realize that there is another way.
03:15:11.000I was born, and I can only say because I've been there and done that, You're told that you either live polygamy or you go straight to hell.
03:15:19.000So they make this sacrifice and do it.
03:15:21.000And one thing that people don't realize is that Brigham Young said that when the saints ceased to be persecuted, that you would know that they were no longer following the rules of God.
03:15:33.000And so these people, when they're being persecuted like this, it just makes them all the more determined to carry on and do what they're doing.
03:15:40.000They're saying to themselves, just verify that we're God's children, you know?
03:15:44.000Yeah, it reinforces their beliefs that they've been taught.
03:15:48.000But the main thing, even with my own children, when my husband had 58 kids and all his wives, my kids went out when they were 15 years old, just like every other polygamist in these various splinter groups.
03:16:00.000They go out and work in, you know, contractors, building homes and all this.
03:16:06.000And they give their money to their fathers so they can marry younger and more wives, and they lose their childhood.
03:16:15.000The girls, by the time they're five years old, they're tending babies, changing diapers, just trying to help their mothers cope, and baking bread, and washing, and doing it.
03:16:23.000They lose their childhood, and then when they're so young, they marry them off.
03:16:27.000But I, myself, didn't even have a driver's license until I was 40 years old.
03:16:34.000I want you to know how deep the brainwashing goes.
03:16:36.000I have been out of this, like, for 24 years, but I still, every once in a while, even when they pick these people up in Texas, I kind of got a panic attack one morning thinking, the old records in my tapes in my mind saying, Irene, you're betraying the brethren.
03:16:52.000You know, these guys will probably go to jail.
03:16:54.000You know, the old tapes go through my mind.
03:16:57.000So I want to tell you, you can get out of it, but the brainwashing never gets out of you completely.
03:17:04.000Well, yeah, I mean, I'm just really, really concerned, you know, that they're not following due process and that they will use this to go after quote-unquote normal families.
03:17:14.000Obviously, if there's abuse going on, it needs to be dealt with.
03:17:18.000But as you said, you know, these moms are probably good mothers that love their children.
03:17:22.000And it looks like there's no way around the fact that they're going to be separated permanently, that these kids are going to be put into foster homes and just grow up with another family.
03:17:31.000Well, I've heard some pretty bad stories about foster care, too, and children that are abused, so they're not going to really get out of it.
03:17:39.000But I do feel like that they should stay with their mothers.
03:17:41.000It's the only thing they have, and they are good people.
03:17:43.000But I do feel that they need to have some kind of, like I say, a wake-up call for these people, knowing that they're not going to go to hell, you know, unless they live this.
03:17:54.000And it's really sad, because many of these men have 30, 40, 50 wives and hundreds of children.
03:18:00.000And it's just growing and growing, and they haven't done anything in the last 150 years with all their raids and putting men in prison.
03:18:09.000The thing is, it's expanded and grown bigger every day.
03:18:13.000But if we're going to allow this to happen in America, you know, we could have another Hitler on our hands.
03:18:18.000I mean, coming in and, you know, doing what they did.
03:18:28.000You know, supposedly they were there to help the women and children, and then they killed all those women and children.
03:18:34.000I mean, uh, you know, Waco rules of engagement exposed that.
03:18:37.000So how are you helping, you know, these kids inside when you're firing upon them and you eventually run a tank into the building and set fire to it?
03:18:47.000I tell you, I shed bitter tears to think that the government would do something like that to all these innocent people.
03:18:53.000They say that they were trying to help and I don't want another thing like that to happen here.
03:18:57.000But, like I say, these people have been so indoctrinated and I just hope that they don't turn to suicide or figure that they're out there with the devil's people and all of them are dressed the way they dress.
03:19:09.000If they go into foster homes and they take their clothes and make them dress other ways, they'll just know that they've gone to hell for sure.
03:19:15.000It's a very frightening thing for them.
03:19:19.000Irene, we're going to have you on in the next segment as well, and I want to get more into, you know, how these things still exist and, you know, how can we go about it legally to go after the abuses?
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03:24:51.000Irene Spencer, the author of Shattered Dreams, and a woman who actually escaped one of these polygamous camps way back in the day, and has been railing against it ever since.
03:25:01.000I mean, a mother of many, part of this thing.
03:25:05.000What was it that got you just to get away?
03:25:08.000I read that it was eventually the death of your husband, but when did you start rethinking the entire thing?
03:25:13.000Well, I started rethinking it quite a while before when I saw my nieces and nephews and people commit suicide.
03:25:21.000And people have nervous breakdowns and all the things that happen.
03:25:26.000And I'm happy to say that since I have written Shattered Dreams, I've had polygamist women and men that have come out of the woodwork and emailed me and said, Irene, especially the women, they say, you said everything that I always wanted to say and never felt that I could.
03:25:42.000And I've actually had polygamist wives that have left their husbands, and I've had men that have lived polygamy that have Born in their hearts, you know, just tell me what a hard life it was and one thing another.
03:25:55.000But anyway, I feel that it's just getting the knowledge out there and letting people know that there is life after polygamy.
03:26:02.000And earlier you mentioned, you know, that how you were against Waco and you were worried, you know, without due process, we might have, you know, another Hitler type situation where they just use that excuse to come into your home and take your family no matter what.
03:26:14.000What are your opinions of the current administration?
03:26:18.000Well, I don't know so much about administration, except I mean I'm not into politics and government so much, but I just know that any time that any government oversteps their bounds, and like I say, I have been worried because of what happened to Waco and other situations, and I think that these people, no matter what, need to have their rights respected, and if they are guilty, you know, I can see somebody going into another town, I mean, it wouldn't happen in another town,
03:26:46.000Because one girl called and said something, they go into a whole town and raid the whole town and pull people out.
03:26:51.000I mean, it's kind of far-fetched, you know?
03:26:53.000Yeah, it seems more than extreme, and I've seen these women on Larry King Live and other programs, and yeah, you know, obviously they have a line of talking points, what they feel like they can and cannot say, but they also genuinely seem to want their children back and are saying, look, there aren't abuses going on.
03:27:11.000If there are abuses going on, let's handle it in a legal manner, you know, service with papers.
03:27:16.000You know, give us a chance to see our children again.
03:27:19.000And, you know, basically they were put on a bus and their children were put on a separate bus and they were told that, you know, they were going to be able to see their families, you know, after the processing and then they were never given back.
03:28:34.000So again, you know, how does this situation end?
03:28:36.000It almost seems to me like I would like a person like yourself to go and talk to at least the children that are being detained and try to give them an overview of what, you know, outside life is like.
03:28:48.000But then on the other end, you know, that they may want to hook back up with their mother, maybe not their father.
03:28:54.000Again, I don't know what's going on in these homes, you know, to try to have that separate type of family.
03:28:59.000Well, you know, my first cousin, her name is Kristen Decker, she just barely went down there to try to see her sister, who is my first cousin also, and tried to get to see her, and they would not allow her to.
03:29:11.000And she actually was in People Magazine last week, People Magazine, about her trip down there.
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03:33:48.000And we just got off the phone with Irene Spencer and her take on that Texas Mormon raid.
03:33:55.000Now, addressing Greg, he was talking about a lot of the fighter jets that morning, and how they have fighter jets throughout the world, or throughout the country, manned and ready to go.
03:34:04.000Well, that morning they were running Northern Vigilance, Vigilant Guardian, Global Guardian, and in fact we only had about 14 fighter jets in the continental United States of America.
03:34:15.000The other ones were flown out by Alaskan airspace, Russian airspace, in this mass drill.
03:34:22.000Now, if you listen to some of the The audio tapes from NORAD that are now publicly, I think they released them last month for the public, you can get the MP3s or the WAV files, whatever.
03:34:34.000You listen to those and you find out, wow, look at all these other hijackings they're having.
03:34:40.000Oh, wait a minute, these guys are running drills.
03:34:42.000Like, literally, these guys in F-16s are wiring back and they're like, oh yeah, we're running a drill, can we come back and land now?
03:34:48.000So, you know, that's probably how they crippled air defenses that morning and then they covered up You know what went on by destroying those FAA tapes, and the FAA had little to no say in the 9-11 Commission.
03:35:03.000That's the hearing with, I think it's Everhart's there.
03:35:06.000uh... meyers is there and then they go through and they have the head of the f a and he he's pretty vocal but they don't let him talk much he basically says look there were hijacking procedures we follow those anything else is ludicrous and they just don't want to speak up he also i'll reveal the fact that there were two military men in the room at all times while the f a was going through this whole crisis You know, the info's out there.
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03:36:02.000I've been basically involved in the truth movement for about two years and it's kind of hard to, you know, you talk to someone about it and either they don't care or they're too scared to admit it or they just don't even want to look, you know what I mean?
03:36:18.000It's hard but Like, my dad, for instance, he was like a diehard Republican, you know, neocon type guy.
03:36:24.000And all I did was I brought a couple videos over his house and I showed him, uh, Terror Storm was the first one.
03:37:03.000I'd say it's 90% impossible not to admit that there's something wrong.
03:37:07.000There's that 10% of the population like that guy that calls into me and toes the official line no matter what.
03:37:13.000But if you listen to these guys, like he quoted Dylan from this debate that myself and Dylan had with Mark Roberts and Ronald White.
03:37:21.000Yeah, and this is a guy who says that, you know, Oswald killed Kennedy all alone, and there's no conspiracy about anything, and you'll bring up the ISI wire transfer, and, oh, that was only in the Times of India.
03:37:34.000Well, you know, we've confirmed it with Joseph Biden.
03:37:38.000Bob Graham talked about meeting with the guy.
03:37:40.000There's no doubt that he helped fund the hijackers.
03:37:42.000The ISI, Pakistani intelligence is so close to U.S.
03:38:41.000Hello, I know of another abusive mind control cult in Sherman, Texas, and they put up a forum called faithchurch.informme.com where they detail their abuse experiences, and they're asking for publicity and new members to the forum, and I thought I might mention that.
03:38:59.000Possible story and just want to thank you for having mrs. Spencer on and you know raise an awareness about abusive mind control cults No, absolutely, and she was excellent.
03:39:08.000You know she even though she acknowledged that you know these people are abusive and in mind control He she also acknowledged hey the government shouldn't be overstepping their bounds and they should go the route of due process That's true.
03:39:19.000I also heard they're trying to build a road through that compound.
03:39:21.000Maybe that's why they stole their land.
03:39:24.000It's probably why it's a main priority now.
03:39:27.000And just again, creating the precedent that they can come in without a warrant and take your family away.
03:39:33.000And again, it's not like I'm endorsing polygamy.
03:39:36.000It is hideous and it's disgusting, man.
03:39:55.000I always want to address your last guest.
03:39:59.000I mean, I realize that there's abuse in all cultures and beliefs, and that there's going to be problems, but what do you call what they've done to us in public school, and to set us down as kids, and throw pornography at us, give us Ritalin, Aaron, I mean, I know all kinds of people that have died and committed suicide.
03:40:21.000If I was in that kind of setup where it was all family, I guess you would, but compare the numbers just to people you know, and talk about abuse, we as a people have been brainwashed completely.
03:40:37.000I mean, especially in the public school systems that now want to take your DNA without any kind of permission slip or awareness to your parents uh they have cameras all over the schools there's been programs like dare and others since i was a kid you know there's no doubt that the public school system is is totally to indoctrinate us into uh you know this this new world order this new age mentality
03:41:01.000but you know on the other end i would say that you know when you when you do have 10 or 11 wives and you have 50 or 60 children and you're brought up a certain way that is definitely another form of mind control.
03:41:14.000I mean, everybody should be in agreement.
03:41:16.000I don't have any problem with it, and I don't come from William E. or anything like that.
03:41:21.000But I do see the biblical background for it, as far as just populating the earth.
03:41:29.000I would say that people, like the ones in Texas from what I saw, I mean, I would ask that person, how many thefts and stealing, how many incidents of auto theft or murder do they have in their society?
03:41:44.000Well, it's a good point, but I just can't get into how wrapped up they are into their religion.
03:41:50.000I just feel like you should have free will, and a lot of these people growing up in these types of situations have anything but free will and less of a chance to attain free will.
03:42:01.000Again, I'm not endorsing what they did.
03:42:02.000I mean, obviously, they shouldn't have been going in there and taking those kids.
03:42:06.000On another note, most of these people, and they kind of catch on in not having birth certificates and licenses and things like that.
03:42:14.000Which, as far as the churches go out there, as far as a marriage license, everybody needs to start asking themselves, why would they have a marriage license?
03:42:21.000The state never got permission over marriage as far as the Bible is concerned.
03:43:22.000What is a normal person to do about that?
03:43:25.000And getting into the question of martial law, you know, going back two years ago, I've been involved with, I'm a research analyst, What amazes me, you pinpoint everything, and it doesn't matter if the planes hit the building or not.
03:43:39.000The planes is not what brought the three buildings down at all.
03:44:06.000Well, I mean, for my steps anyway, I'm just trying to get people to go to action, man.
03:44:11.000I mean, my movies are a way not only to educate people but hopefully motivate people.
03:44:16.000I mean, if you saw the extras of Loose Change 2nd Edition, it's me, Dylan, and Corey in the New York City subway on 9/11/2005 on the fourth anniversary, putting up flyers all We had about 50 DVDs at that point to go hand out and talk to people.
03:44:32.000You know, the next year, we had 2,000 people down there in Investigate 9-11 shirts and 10,000 DVDs.
03:44:39.000There's only so much I can do as one man, you know?
03:44:43.000But together, I feel like... Hey, Senator, I asked a senator in my state Are they going to reinvestigate 9-11 due to the outstanding evidence of the sulfate that was found?
03:44:56.000And she says, well, we didn't think that would be necessary as a direction to find what Of the overall picture of why the terrorists struck the two buildings.
03:45:12.000Look, look, we have a NIST report of 10,000 pages where they describe the collapse mechanism, quote unquote, and then say global collapse ensues.
03:45:21.000And then when John Gross, one of the authors of this report, is confronted about it, he says, well, the video speaks for itself.
03:45:28.000So we didn't do any scientific calculations to find out how the rest of the building fell.
03:45:32.000I mean, and then you look at their actual tests, and okay, the floors were subjected to longer and hotter fires, and guess what?
03:48:24.000Yeah, man, like, I just can't take the, like, how our society has been right now, like, you know, I noticed it in school growing up, you know, in high school how you're supposed to, like, break free and, you know, just be cool after that, but people never broke free, man.
03:48:39.000They're like, they have the same pathetic little Petty structures that they had before, and like they haven't made any new friends, and they're all like scared of Al Qaeda, and it's really pathetic, man.
03:48:50.000Well, not only that, they're just, they're taught to be a certain way, man.
03:48:53.000I mean, they're taught to have, you know, the latest haircut, the popped collar, you know, and that I don't care attitude, and the most important thing is where am I getting drunk or high tonight to meet chicks?
03:49:04.000You know, and, you know, what's on the TV concerning my favorite sports team?
03:49:10.000It's not cool to be involved in politics.
03:49:12.000It's not cool to know, you know, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution.
03:49:16.000Unfortunately, those aren't put into us as essential.
03:49:20.000And it was like I was saying earlier, you know, how many people do you know out there that actually know what the three branches of government are?
03:49:28.000And, like, on top of that, like, you know, being cool has gone out of silence.
03:49:32.000It's all about being petty and, like, you know, how you can stab somebody in the back or be a little minion spy, and it's really pathetic, man.
03:49:41.000Well, yeah, I'm with you, man, but I, you know, I keep pushing on.
03:49:44.000I mean, I remember when I was first talking about 9-11, literally six months after the attacks, in New York, and I lost a lot of friends, you know, and so my family wouldn't talk to me at times, and that's been a complete 180 for me Those same people call me all the time.
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03:56:15.000I know our economy is going down and the dollar is going down.
03:56:19.000And I just want to know, like, what is the strategy for them crashing our dollar?
03:56:25.000Alright, I'll tell you right now, man, it's really simple.
03:56:27.000Alright, we used to live in a country where our dollar, for instance, was pitted against the euro, and the euro was 75 cents to our dollar.
03:56:35.000The euro is now about $1.40, $1.41 to our dollar, alright?
03:56:39.000We used to live in a country where our dollar was compared to about 80 cents, 85 cents to Canada.
03:56:47.000Our dollar is now below a Canadian dollar.
03:56:48.000It's like a dollar one to a dollar or a dollar ten.
03:56:51.000In fact, I know a lot of Canadians that no longer will even accept US Federal Reserve notes.
03:56:56.000So on that tier, we are now almost equal to Canada.
03:57:00.000In fact, members of the Canadian Parliament have proposed that we go on parity with the loonie and the toonie.
03:57:06.000The loonie and the toonie are the one and two dollar coins.
03:57:09.000So in other words, a dollar there will be a dollar here.
03:57:12.000Now, the peso is is has never been worth a lot but if we devalue the dollar enough so that it's close to the peso or almost on par with the peso then our economic overlords are gonna come forward and they're gonna say well you know our our dollars really close to the Canadian dollar and it's really close to the Mexican dollar and we built this infrastructure really make sense to merge into a new currency just like they did with the euro man
03:57:41.000And from that new currency, just like the European Union started out as supposedly a trade agreement, they're going to build their own constitution.
03:57:48.000And they're going to have their own laws and rules and regulations.
03:57:51.000And that's why the SPP agreement has happened.
03:57:53.000It's the Securities and Prosperities Partnership.
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