In this episode of the Alex Jones Show, host Jason Burmas sits down with author Jim Mars to talk about his new book, The Terror Conspiracy, dealing with 9/11 and the loss of liberty. Jim has been featured on the History Channel dozens of times, and is a frequent guest on Alex's radio show, "The Alex Show." He is also the author of the book "Crossfire: JFK and the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy" and has a new book coming out in June called "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" which details the conspiracy to take over the United States and change the face of the country.
00:00:30.000It's the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show.
00:00:32.000I'm Jason Burmas, sitting in today and tomorrow.
00:00:35.000I just want to remind everybody that Alex is going to be presenting a sneak peek!
00:00:40.000At the 9-11 Chronicles, Part 1, Truth Rising again.
00:00:44.000This is a film shot unlike any other from Alex Jones.
00:00:47.000Cinema Verite style, where he doesn't even do the voiceover.
00:00:50.000And it's really about the 9-11 truth movement.
00:00:52.000It contains candid interviews with Willie Nelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, George Carlin, Martin Sheen, and others.
00:01:01.000As well as confrontations with many political figures, including Bill and Hill Clinton, David Rockefeller, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Gary Hart, John McCain, And many more.
00:01:12.000So I hope people go out on Saturday, May 17th at 4 p.m.
00:01:27.000I'm very stoked for this one to get out there and hopefully get more people involved in the 9-11 Truth Movement.
00:01:32.000This is a yes-we-can-do-it type of movie, really focusing on what tactics we need to use to expose this information to the masses and uh... it's it's a bang-up job i'm really excited to see people's reaction i've got jim mars with me i've done a couple of radio shows with jim jim i think i've been on his uh... dreamland program before and i've met him a couple times out in chicago and of course new york city he is a famous accomplished author you can see him on the history channel all the time i see jim mars
00:02:02.000on the History Channel more than anybody, I think.
00:02:04.000And I believe his latest book is The Terror Conspiracy, dealing with 9-11.
00:02:08.000It's Deception, 9-11, and the Loss of Liberty.
00:02:10.000And you can pick that up over at Infowars.com.
00:03:00.000And I have a new book coming out that's going to show that a small cabal of people have been operating through the last century and right up to today to absolutely change the face of the United States.
00:03:14.000And I'm not totally at liberty to get into all the details, but the title of the new book It's the rise of the Fourth Reich.
00:03:26.000Well, you know, that's one of the things a lot of people in the general populace just don't understand, is that the Bush family really made its fortune, you know, not in the weapons and oil industry, although that's definitely where they made some of their money, but that was after they were Nazi money launderers for Union Banking Corp.
00:03:45.000and Averell Harriman Brothers Banking back in the Prescott Bush days.
00:03:50.000That's exactly right, and if you go back even farther than that, you'll find it was the Harriman family, and the Schiff family, and the Rockefellers, and many other members of Wall Street who actually funded and hence created communism in Russia.
00:04:07.000That's what people don't get is that it's not about right and left.
00:04:10.000It's not about conservative or liberal.
00:04:13.000These are false paradigms that are paraded through our mass media in order to indoctrinate and brainwash us into taking a side so that we can't see past these paradigms, and we do a lot of infighting.
00:04:28.000It's just like when I was talking to Paul Joseph Watson earlier, I talked about how they like to divide us by race.
00:06:04.000They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
00:06:07.000Certainly we'd never intend to procrastinate getting our own food supply until there was none left at any price.
00:06:13.000We would intend to have plenty of food so the relief organizations could care for those unable to care for themselves.
00:06:18.000We would intend not to be standing in the bread line with the ignorant and the foolish who pretend the facts of food disappearance are untrue.
00:06:26.000If the experience of the Katrina disaster is evidence, the bread line may have no bread.
00:06:31.000Just like the good intentions on the road to that unheavenly place, the good intentions alone to get a supply of food will not feed us.
00:06:39.000Only getting our food supply immediately will make us independent and fearless for the future.
00:08:04.000From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
00:08:11.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:08:15.000Alright, we are back live on the Alex Jones Show with Jim Mars, and we're talking about some of the methods that the elite use to divide us, and we just discussed You know, politics as one of them, race as another, and I think the other big one is obviously religion.
00:08:32.000And if they can use these three things to pit us against each other, there's just going to be all this infighting, Jim, and we're never really going to be able to accomplish any goals towards making it better.
00:08:44.000It's the oldest tactic in the book, divide and conquer.
00:08:49.000It's it's order out of chaos and it's it's their mantra and they've been they've been able to do this really really well uh... since the invention of the media you know in the in the fifties since everybody started getting glued to their television sets and they're able to control the programming So that, let's say your flavor of news is CNN, you're watching CNN, and you're thinking, wow, you know, these guys are really good.
00:09:12.000Now that's the quote-unquote liberal democratic end.
00:09:15.000And then you have these other people that subscribe to Fox News as their one and only.
00:09:19.000And these are like the hardcore conservative people.
00:09:22.000Little do they know they're both being deceived because the things that they're presenting aren't of a liberal or conservative agenda, it's really of a globalist agenda, Jim.
00:09:33.000And we see the same tactic, divide and conquer, being used against various research communities, whether it's the JFK assassination, UFO research community, or the 9-11 research community.
00:09:46.000All of a sudden, everybody's on board.
00:09:49.000There's legitimate Puzzles and controversies, contradictions, inadequacies that need to be addressed, but the next thing you know, everybody's fighting with each other over their pet theories, or you got disinformation people in there throwing curveballs, and everybody gets to fight with each other, and they get so disjointed that nothing meaningful can actually get accomplished.
00:10:13.000Well, that's classic COINTELPRO, and a lot of that's been declassified.
00:10:19.000What they do is they put these people forward as somebody with legitimate questions and interests, and they have sort of a name.
00:10:26.000They're either a professor or they're a former member of the Bush administration or something like that.
00:10:32.000They toe the line of regular questions.
00:10:36.000actual information, and then as soon as they've been established, all of a sudden they're talking about no planes and space beams.
00:10:42.000Somebody jumped in with that, and then the thoughtful people are going, well, that sounds kind of ridiculous, and then pretty soon the whole thing just falls into disorder.
00:10:53.000Absolutely, and I don't think they've been as successful as they'd like to be in dividing the 9-11 truth movement, especially with this no plane nonsense.
00:11:02.000Every time I see one of these no-plain videos, it's the same old people parroting it, and it's the same people at the top.
00:11:08.000It's not really able to infiltrate the actual mainline 9-11 truthers out there, but then the quote-unquote debunkers like to focus on that as if that's the only theory out there.
00:11:39.000People were conflicted as to where they came from.
00:11:41.000That really kind of started off as a big puzzle, and that was easy to keep rolling as a controversy for years.
00:11:49.000But in 9-11, you can just bring it down to simple things.
00:11:52.000How did two planes drop three buildings?
00:11:56.000Uh, if we have to worry about a terrorist attack in our country, how come to this very day nothing substantial has been done to secure our borders?
00:12:05.000Uh, why were they running war game exercises, initially just denied it, and then finally said, well yeah, we run all these war game exercises, including one scenario of hijacked planes crashing into the World Trade Center.
00:12:18.000I mean, these are all facts, and once people become aware of these facts, then it's pretty hard to break that up.
00:12:24.000One of the things I like to really focus on now on the war games is the exercise Global Guardian, which was in full swing before 9-11, but interjected with Northern Vigilance, Vigilance Guardian, Apollo Guardian, all these other drills that were going on that time.
00:12:43.000Then, you know, they're running drills at the NRO with a team from the CIA of ramming a plane into the building at 8.45 in the morning.
00:12:50.000But the interesting thing about Global Guardian is that they actually had shadow government command centers in the air, or E4B doomsday planes, in five different locations.
00:13:01.000And one of the locations where they were actually caught on video was on the scene of the Pentagon strike.
00:13:08.000Now, the government denies that this is an E-4B, but it's on multiple cameras, and CNN, I believe a little over a year ago, actually had to do a report on Anderson Cooper that it was indeed an E-4B doomsday plane.
00:13:19.000Now, what's really... You can tell by the configuration, and you can tell by the American flag on the tail, it's an E-4B.
00:13:26.000It's absolutely an E-4B, and it's unrestricted.
00:13:28.000And the E-4B, the Flying Command Center, is the very type of craft which can capture electronically other computer-driven airplanes and guide them via Global Hawk remote-controlled technology.
00:13:59.000Just type in Second white plane, camera planet, and you can watch it.
00:14:03.000It was on the scene of the World Trade Center attack after the first plane struck, before the second plane struck, and then if you watch a couple of the videos with a wider view of the attack, the side attack of the second plane going in, you can see this white plane again on the scene of the World Trade Center attack.
00:14:20.000So it's there before the second plane hits the building, and it's there as the second plane hits the building.
00:14:50.000So, of course, without him knowing what the target was, my question was, Who controlled the airplanes that crashed in the World Trade Center?
00:15:11.000And the result I got was they were controlled from another aircraft.
00:15:16.000Well, it would certainly fit the bill.
00:15:19.000If you look at the Amalgam Virgo documents, which is the drill they ran on June 1st and 2nd prior to the attacks in 2001, where they ran a commercial airliner into the Capitol building, it shows you how these drones work, and how there's a drone commander, there's always a drone picture, There's always satellite imagery of what's going on.
00:15:40.000I mean, just this whole map out, I think it's like a 27-page document, and like four or five are just based on the control centers and the command procedures of these drone aircraft, and it just looks too similar to what happened on 9-11 to be a coincidence.
00:15:54.000Exactly, and of course, if any of the listeners, if you want to see how this could be accomplished, and if you want to see absolute proof that, yes, contrary to what Condoleezza Rice and And Donald Rumsfeld and others said, they said, how could we have possibly even have guessed that they would have used aircraft to crash into buildings?
00:16:12.000If you want to see the complete lie given to that and how it would operate, go find the March edition of The Lone Gunman, which was an extended series of the X-Files by Chris Carter that aired in March of 2001.
00:16:32.000And the whole scenario and plot of this show was that people within the U.S.
00:16:38.000government who wanted to jumpstart the defense contracts and the defense industry were going to capture a commercial airliner by Global Hawk remote control technology and crash it into the World Trade Center.
00:16:53.000Yeah, absolutely, and that's just an example in the media of foreknowledge of 9-11.
00:16:59.000If they said, well, who could have guessed?
00:17:00.000Well, Chris Carter, who's a television writer, he could guess.
00:17:03.000Are we supposed to believe that all these people within the Pentagon, the CIA and NRO and all the Alphabet agencies, They couldn't have guessed this.
00:17:11.000In fact, Jason, as you well know, there wasn't any guesswork to it anyway, because back in the 90s, they had busted an Alcatraz cell in the Philippines and uncovered the plans for Bojinka, which specifically called for hijacking airplanes and crashing them into prominent structures, prominently naming the World Trade Center.
00:17:29.000Well, the media tries to spin it and say, oh, they were going to capture all these multiple airliners and blow them up in the air.
00:17:35.000Oh yeah, and by the way, they were going to ram one into the CIA base.
00:17:38.000Now, by the way, you know, it's just like Marvin Citron gets up and he says, well, I wrote Terror 2000 back in 1994.
00:17:46.000And we talked about a plane hitting the Capitol building or the Pentagon, and then Amalgam Virgo shows you a Northwestern airliner, its flight path into the Capitol building, and there is Osama bin Laden on the cover of that document, and Richard Eberhardt Who went before the 9-11 Commission and denying that we had any any outward, everything was an outward threat before 9-11 supposedly.
00:18:09.000There was no hijackings that were going to take place within the country.
00:18:27.000Don't look at Amalgam Virgo, don't look at Terra 2000, don't look at the Mascow drills we were running, certainly don't look at the drills we were running that morning that are still somewhat classified.
00:18:40.000That's right, we still don't know all of them.
00:18:42.000And by the way, if anybody out there listening is going, oh now wait a minute, people within our government wouldn't allow terrorist attacks on the United States.
00:18:51.000Simply go back and look at the facts behind the 1993
00:18:55.000bombing of the world trade center tower and you will find that according to court testimony an egypt former egyptian army officer was acting as an fbi informant had infiltrated and was among the terrorists that were planning that bombing he thought this was terribly told his fbi handlers he said i think i can slip in fake explosives for the real explosives and his the fbi said no no don't do that so in other words the fbi was behind the nineteen ninety three
00:19:24.000bombing which uh... calls more than a million dollars with the damage kills five or six people and and uh... you know uh... cause the whole evacuation of the tower and And one of the really interesting things about that is you're talking about a guy named Ahmed Salam.
00:19:38.000And he's this Egyptian army officer and he's like, well let's use fake explosives.
00:19:41.000Oh no, no, you have to build a real bomb.
00:19:43.000That's when he got suspicious and he started taping his conversations with the FBI so that when he was picked up he said, no, I'm an FBI informant.
00:19:51.000Instead of going to prison for this, he ended up getting a million dollars in testimony against the other guys.
00:19:55.000We're going to be back after this with Jim Mars.
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00:25:06.000We're talking with Jim Mars, and we're going to take your phone calls into the next half hour afterwards, but I just want to talk a little bit more about this FBI involvement.
00:25:14.000Now, we know the FBI is involved in the 93 bombing, but wait, there's more.
00:25:20.000We know that a FBI informant, a tested FBI informant by the way, who had his own little handler in the whole deal, He rented and lived with two of the hijackers, Nawaf al-Zahami and Saeed al-Ghamdi.
00:25:34.000Now what's interesting is that those two guys were also flagged in AbleDanger.
00:25:39.000And not only did the guys at AbleDanger, a black ops program by the way, go to CENTCOM, but they tried to get meetings with the FBI over a dozen times.
00:25:48.000And of course the FBI ignored them every time because these were their boys.
00:26:17.000In fact, there's the tracks of intelligence, the Mossad, all through the whole 9-11 thing.
00:26:27.000And then, even more fundamentally, when you go back and actually learn your history and start putting it together, you find out that Al-Qaeda was simply a name change, name change from the old Muslim Brotherhood, which was created and infiltrated and used by the Nazis during World War II, and then passed along to the old SS, who then became the CIA, and when Uh, they got tossed out of Egypt because they were too violent.
00:26:56.000They moved to Saudi Arabia, and it was there where they trained young Saudis, including a young Osama bin Laden.
00:27:05.000And then in the 80s, when we wanted someone to go in and fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, sent the Muslim Brotherhood in there, but they couldn't use that name because of all the baggage in their background, so they changed it to the Muhyiddin, which then evolved into al-Qaeda.
00:27:23.000And by the way, al-Qaeda literally means the base.
00:27:28.000And for a long time, I and many others thought, well, that means their headquarters somewhere.
00:27:33.000But no, according to information that was presented to the House of Commons over in Britain, the base refers to the CIA computer base of Arab mercenaries and assets that they can call upon to do their will.
00:27:51.000Absolutely, and that ties right in with J. Michael Springman, who is also in my new film, Fabled Enemies, that I'm working on, that he was in the consulate in Jeddah in the late 80s, early 90s, and a lot of these guys were being funneled in through there.
00:28:06.000He would deny them visas because they didn't seem to have any reason to go to the United States, and he would be overruled by his superiors, and they would say that we're giving them a visa for national security purposes.
00:28:16.000He later talks to people within the CIA and they're like, oh yeah, That's our program with our asset, Osama Bin Laden, to funnel in Islamic militants into this country.
00:28:29.000You know, all of this actually was presented in my book, The Terror Conspiracy, which originally was to be published by HarperCollins back in 2002.
00:28:39.000And if that information had gotten widespread, it might have saved us the morass of Iraq, but that book was just strangely cancelled for no particular reason, and I cannot view it in any other light other than just censorship.
00:28:57.000And it's now taken a course, you know, now we're seven years out, and finally all this stuff is becoming more and more widely known.
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00:33:03.000He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
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00:33:27.000I just want to remind everybody that Alex Jones is having a couple sneak peek showings of the 9-11 Chronicles Part 1 Truth Rising at least a month before the release.
00:33:37.000It might even be a month and a half before you can actually order it online or see it on PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:33:41.000It's going to be over at the Alamo Draft House on Saturday, May 17th at 4 p.m.
00:33:46.000And on Sunday, May 18th at 7 p.m., we're talking with Jim Mars, an accomplished author of both Crossfire, the Terror Conspiracy, and many others, and a new one on the way.
00:33:59.000I believe it's going to be called Rise of the Fourth Reich.
00:35:31.000So I went in front of the judge and I tried to, you know, I pleaded no contest because I thought there was no charge, no way that they could charge me with this.
00:36:17.000This bothers the hell out of me because, see, I started off in my journalism career as a police reporter in an office down at a police station.
00:36:27.000I mean, I knew all the dispatchers and the detectives and the homicide detectives and the crime scene search guys.
00:36:33.000That was back in the days of the old republic.
00:36:36.000I even actually just ran with the cops.
00:36:38.000You know, I had a little trench coat and a little snappy brim hat.
00:36:40.000and I'd walk right on into the murder scenes and stuff with them because I was just one guy, and all I had was a little notepad and a pencil.
00:36:47.000All that changed during the time that I was working as a police reporter because pretty soon they came out with the miniature tape recorders, so the radio guys got in on it.
00:37:00.000So all of a sudden there's three or four radio guys all with their tape recorders.
00:37:33.000And all you can do is wait for the official word to come as to what happened in there.
00:37:39.000Probably eight times out of ten, when they come out and tell you what happened, that's probably exactly what happened.
00:37:44.000But if it's the slight bit political, or if the local mayor or the local police chief or sheriff or somebody might have some personal involvement in it, or if it's, quote, national security, how do we know that we're getting the truth about what happens inside that yellow tape?
00:38:03.000And I just think it's terrible, because I have the highest regard for police officers.
00:38:07.000I mean, they should be among the most highly paid people in this whole country.
00:38:12.000But I've seen it shift from when I was a kid, the policeman who wore blue was your friend, and if you had a problem, go talk to a policeman.
00:38:22.000And today, even my young daughters would say, uh-oh, look out, there's a cop.
00:38:26.000And it's like, all of a sudden, like it's them and us.
00:38:29.000And now they wear black, and now, as you said, and as Collar demonstrated, you're guilty until you prove yourself innocent.
00:38:41.000Or Nazi Germany, or Communist Russia, I mean, you know.
00:38:47.000When you go back and realize that the same people created Communist Russia, also created Nazi Germany, and also have created the modern American national security state here in America, then you understand why that we're all looking like those same entities.
00:39:04.000I mean, I don't know if you've seen this Philly beating, but literally three guys get pulled out of the car, over a dozen police officers assault them, they never resist or anything, they're hit with batons, they're soccer kicked, the dogs are pulled on them, and the media reports, well, they're on edge, because two days ago there was a bank robbery and someone shot a cop, and they thought that these guys were involved.
00:39:26.000You can tell right away they didn't think they were involved, because if they thought they were involved, they would have thought they were armed.
00:39:31.000They would have created a perimeter around the car before bum-rushing it, and they would have made them get out of the car with their hands up and on the ground before anything happened.
00:39:44.000I mean, there might be a lawsuit that takes five or ten years, and these guys might see a little bit of money, but these people will be minimally disciplined.
00:39:52.000Most of them will not be discharged, and they'll be just swept under the rug, Jim, and it really makes me upset.
00:39:58.000Well, that's what happens in a police state.
00:40:00.000Yeah, that is what happens in a police state.
00:40:11.000Going back, just a couple things to run through real quick.
00:40:16.000I think most of the police are just desensitized and, you know, they don't They don't even really think about what they're doing, and they're so used to being able to do anything they want, they just carry out whatever they do out of being desensitized, and they will follow orders in the future.
00:40:31.000My concern, which is talking about dividing conquer, another thing that I think needs to be looked at is the food supply in our country.
00:40:43.000And those chemtrails that are just driving me nuts because they're spraying Atlanta like crazy and it's driving me nuts.
00:40:50.000Every time I look up I just get so irritated to, you know, the big picture of everything that's going on.
00:40:57.000Let me interject a minute and tell you.
00:40:58.000Last weekend I was in a little big town up in northeast Texas.
00:41:03.000I wasn't near any big city and they were chemtrailing like the devil.
00:41:07.000Now, you know, what are they chemtrailing over this largely rural area for?
00:41:12.000Well, I don't know, and that's what I'm trying to figure out, but I have noticed, you know, when I've been looking into stuff, I've been noticing that a large bit of bats are dying up in the northeast United States.
00:41:22.000We've got birds dropping out of the sky.
00:41:37.000Uh, and my thinking in this is, hey, is this because they have gone so far they didn't stop to think that they should?
00:41:44.000And, you know, when they go ahead and, you know, the prices of everything are so high, we're paying so much for everything, what are they going to do with all this money when it's all said and done?
00:41:55.000I mean, you're just going to have money and what are they going to spend it on?
00:41:57.000There's nothing to buy because they're going to own everything.
00:41:59.000And they're going to own the few bit of people that are left and whatever they're going to do.
00:42:04.000You know, I'm just concerned about how my family is going to make it and everybody else in the world is going to make it beyond the scope of what's going on, because there's such a serious reality to everything that's going on, and it's right in front of your face.
00:42:18.000Well, Terry, the bottom line is the only thing we have is our information and our freedom as human beings, our God-given freedoms, and we have to just keep spreading this information.
00:42:28.000There's no doubt in my mind that we're currently under bio-attack with all these chemtrails, and now the mainstream media is starting to report on it, and of course they're reporting that it's here to save us from global warming.
00:42:39.000Another thing that's been embedded into our brains for the last 25 years.
00:42:46.000And like you said, Jim, this isn't always over huge cities.
00:42:50.000You know, I'm in a little town in upstate New York, you know, most of the time I'm down in Texas right now, but they spray every day there.
00:43:05.000And other people, oh, that's just plain foam.
00:43:08.000Yeah, but you know what I've noticed, though, is time is going on.
00:43:12.000As I'm standing outside, my throat and my nose are starting to get more and more like, um, burning sensation in it.
00:43:21.000And I've noticed with other people, just, I've noticed people, uh, my wife works, and she was at work one day, and she's outside just standing there, and you know, nothing's going on.
00:43:30.000And, you know, a lot of people are even afraid to even bring it up, because you go, oh, chemtrail, and people go, oh, you're an idiot, you know, whatever.
00:43:37.000Well, I'll tell you what, you go talk to your local doctor, or one that's been in practice for say more than 30 years, or 20 years.
00:43:44.000You go talk to your local druggist, one who's been in business for more than 20 years, and you'll find out they will all tell you that in the past 10 years or so, they have seen a significant rise in respiratory problems.
00:43:57.000Yeah, it all coincides with the advent of the chemtrail.
00:44:00.000Yeah, I don't think it's a coincidence.
00:44:08.000Oh, yeah, you guys are pretty well informed.
00:44:11.000Maybe you can help me with this, okay?
00:44:14.000If, let's say, 1 in 10,000 people living in America in 2001 was an Islamic terrorist, Shouldn't we have seen maybe 25,000 of these terrorists parading across our TV screens and chains?
00:44:43.000Maybe that's where the white, blue-eyed, blonde-haired terrorists that the white Al-Qaeda Fox & Friends is talking about, maybe Alex did round them up and they are in fact in the InfoWars basement.
00:44:55.000Well, you might want to come look, okay?
00:44:57.000Well, Jim, I think you're on to something, because I've been keeping up with this since 9-11, and, you know, they've arrested thousands of people.
00:45:05.000We still have a few hundred hidden out at Guantanamo, and yet there's only been one trial, and that was in Missouri.
00:45:13.000Come on, where is this giant terrorist group that we're supposed to be so afraid of?
00:45:18.000Well, hold on, let me answer just for a second, Jim in West Virginia, and I thank you for the call.
00:45:24.000Look, the real terrorism threat is like overseas, and they just tell us that the people who are the real terrorists, such as the guys that did the USS Cole bombing, they got away, or they were let go in Yemen.
00:45:36.000See, it's so far removed from us that people will actually read that and believe it.
00:45:41.000Like, we're going to let the actual terrorists, the real terrorists, the real Al-Qaeda, the guys who supposedly bombed this stuff, they're not the ones in Gitmo?
00:45:52.000Let me give you an example of how easy it is To create false terrorism.
00:45:56.000There was a report that came out of Iraq about an Iraqi cab driver who was stopped at an American military checkpoint.
00:46:03.000They took him and his cab into custody, took him to an American base, held him for about two hours, and then said, okay, you're free to go.
00:46:10.000And he said, well, wait a minute, I gotta have my driver's license, you know, or I'll be in trouble.
00:46:15.000And they said, oh, well, you're gonna have to drive over to this police station.
00:46:19.000And they'll give you a driver's license back.
00:46:46.000Well, even when they get caught, like when British soldiers were caught dressing up like Muslims and ready to bomb a mosque, what happens?
00:46:53.000Well, by the time that the actual British military went there to free them no matter what, the police chief already wised up and let them go.
00:47:16.000I really hope that more people are going to grasp onto this information, that they're going to turn off American Idol, that they're not going to give a damn about who wins the World Series this year.
00:47:26.000I know those are high hopes, Jim, but you'd think In this type of situation, where it really is do or die, it's them or us, people are going to step up.
00:47:35.000I mean, I've yet to see it completely, but I have gotten, and I'm sure you do, thousands of emails that are encouraging.
00:47:44.000There's plenty of people out there, but Jason, I tell you, I think it's a forlorn hope.
00:47:49.000Because every time I log on to Yahoo, I immediately look to see what's the news headlines.
00:47:56.000And almost invariably, day after day, it's American Idol.
00:48:00.000And I'm here to tell you, I have never watched one episode of American Idol, and yet every day there's pictures and news about something happening on American Idol as if that's really got anything to do with anything.
00:48:14.000And I will tell you further, the people that you're talking about, even the people who are beginning to wise up, Nothing's really going to get accomplished until people are hungry and in the streets.
00:48:25.000Well, I hope it doesn't come to that, you know.
00:48:43.000I mean, you are really one of the pioneers.
00:48:44.000You're one of the guys that I actually, again, read and watched before I was really hip to any of this NWO stuff.
00:48:50.000I was interested in your JFK research, and I used to look into UFOs quite a bit back when I was in high school and college, so you were a name that was synonymous with that.
00:49:02.000No matter what kind of information you put out, you're automatically labeled as a conspiracy theorist because you don't adhere to the mainstream media's version of events, or the account that they want to tell the masses.
00:49:31.000And I agree that the basic motor of propaganda machine for all of the police state measures, the imperial warmongering around the world, is 9-11, and that has to be exposed.
00:49:43.000And the divider rule tactic, I think, is operative not only in Iraq, Where the CIA and British Intelligence are pitting Sunni against Shia and then saying we've got to stop there because we're the angelic noble referees who've got to stop this when we set it up.
00:49:58.000But also among those who would be brought to the 9-11 truth movement, I think are turned away sometimes by some among the paleo-conservatives, some on this network and others, who try to piggyback on the former
00:50:14.000uh... uh... engine uh... imperial war and uh... police state measures this country which is anti-communism anti-socialism i don't belong to any organization but i i i read some socialist marxist socialist publications uh... uh... sites like w s w s dot org workers org and the disparity between what is uh... said sometimes on shortwave about that and that the actual fact i think plays right into the hands
00:50:42.000Of those who want to, I think, continue to pull us, because if I could speak about this after the break, I'd really like to.
00:50:50.000Alright Dave, I'm actually going to have to let you go because we've got the final segment with Jim Mars, but you know, there's no doubt that it's there to divide us.
00:50:55.000We're going to get Jim Mars' take on what's going to happen in the next six months after this.
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00:55:16.000And one of the things I Discuss, Jim, is the fact that now they're going to start making our change out of steel because zinc and copper and nickel are too expensive.
00:55:25.000We already know from six months ago, the report, that a penny now takes a penny and a half to actually make.
00:55:30.000So that's, you know, exponential inflation right there.
00:55:34.000We know they're pushing for $200 a barrel oil, which is just going to further eviscerate the economy in the United States.
00:55:40.000What do you see happening in this country in the next six months?
00:55:48.000The economy, as everybody can tell, is stripping gears.
00:55:53.000China, I understand, is now demanding from its customers, meaning Wal-Mart and everybody in the United States, they want to be paid in Euros, or even Chinese money.
00:56:04.000They do not want to accept American dollars anymore.
00:56:08.000All I can say is, I think everyone listening, You better start planning some place to go that's outside the city and take some gardening tools.
00:56:19.000I'm in a little space up in upstate New York and I've got about a five acre backyard and about thirty acres behind that.
00:56:27.000I do feel a little bit more secure not being in a big city where if there is some kind of an event or an attack, it's going to be harder to round me up.
00:56:37.000But we can't all just go and hide either, Jim.
00:57:32.000No, I don't want to say anything like that because then it's going to be misconstrued that I killed myself in bed or something, just like this D.C. Madam case.
00:58:22.000And don't forget to go to the Alamo Draft House on May 17th and May 18th, 4pm on Saturday, 7pm on Sunday, to check out the 9-11 Chronicles, Part 1, Truth Rising.