On this episode of The Alex Jones Show, host Jason Bermas is joined by comedian Kevin Booth of American Drug War and the legend Tommy Chong to discuss the new movie, "American Drug War: AKA Tommy Chong" directed by Josh Gilbert.
00:00:25.000I came in today to find out that I have a jam-packed show.
00:00:30.000And on the line right now, I have both Kevin Booth of American Drug War and the legend Tommy Chong, you know, from such movies as, you know, the Cheech and Chong films.
00:00:41.000Next movie, Nice Dreams, even the Corsican brothers, all good stuff.
00:00:44.000And he has a prominent role in American Drug War.
00:00:47.000Tommy, of course, picked up for selling glassware on the internet after 9-11.
00:01:10.000And, you know, I know it's made its rounds on Showtime.
00:01:12.000I know we're selling it here, but it's really getting out there.
00:01:15.000Well, like I say in the film, I mean, my personal motives were just the deaths of several family members to what I call the legal drugs of alcohol, tobacco, and pharmaceutical.
00:01:26.000Drugs that kill at least almost a million Americans a year, while all the so-called illegal drugs kill less than 11,000 a year.
00:01:40.000And when you look at the death stats from marijuana, it's pretty much impossible to find.
00:01:53.000That's pretty much what got me going on this, but I also wanted to have Tommy on, because they've got a new film out called AKA Tommy Chong, which totally focuses on Tommy's arrest.
00:02:07.000Josh Gilbert, filmmaker, did a great job of making this film.
00:02:11.000And that's why I thought it would be so important to have Tommy on right now, because he's just had a story happen to him.
00:02:49.000What they did, they set up a phony head shop in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania, because Pennsylvania was one of two states that would prosecute this law, that little-known law that made it illegal to ship drug paraphernalia that little-known law that made it illegal to ship drug paraphernalia across the state And so that was the little technicality they got my company on, my son's company.
00:03:15.000And I pled guilty because I didn't want them going after my son or my wife, which they threatened to do.
00:03:21.000And I received nine months in federal penitentiary.
00:03:50.000And, uh, you know, the fact that they could put me in, and I was in there with a lot of people, you know, that were victims of the drug war, and their sentences were a lot worse than mine.
00:04:00.000You know, they were, I was in there with people that, you know, finishing up a 20-year sentence for marijuana cultivation, you know.
00:04:08.000Ridiculous, ridiculous times, you know.
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00:04:17.000You know, the horror stories in the federal prison system is legendary, you know, and I was lucky enough to be able to be a part of that.
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00:08:26.000Well, AKA Tommy Chong is the film that was made by Josh Gilbert about I mean, my trials and tribulations going into prison.
00:08:38.000It shows me before, during, and after the prison thing.
00:08:43.000But there was an interesting development that just happened two days ago.
00:08:48.000The feds, the same people that put me in jail originally, Mary Beth Buchanan, or Mary Beth Loose Cannon, as I call her, They raided the warehouse where the film was being kept, and they confiscated somewhere like 10,000 copies of A.K.A.
00:10:03.000So why don't you guys tell me what happened.
00:10:05.000I hear you guys got raided and your product was actually taken away.
00:10:09.000Yeah, you know, we've done, to give you a brief history here, Tommy and I did a little business back together in the 90s, so naturally we're guilty by association where he was the spokesperson for our products.
00:10:23.000And then as Tommy's Voltz events unfolded with the Operation Pipe Dreams, you know, Josh made a very fine documentary on it and then brought it to us to say, hey, Why don't you help us distribute this?" And we said, sure, I'd love to.
00:10:40.000So we released the documentary eight weeks ago, and there's about a 10-minute clip in there that focuses on Mary Beth Buchanan and some of her, I guess we could call, interesting behaviors.
00:10:54.000I mean, she's in the Western District of Pennsylvania, and there's airplanes crashing in her district with terrorists on them.
00:11:02.000And she's focusing on pornography and bongs, and we're at a time of crisis in the country, and she's looking at stuff like that.
00:11:10.000So I think it's something that everyone would say, hmm, that doesn't seem right.
00:11:15.000Anyways, to make a short story shorter, we released the video eight weeks ago, which kind of brings some of Mary Beth's actions into light.
00:11:26.000And sure enough, eight weeks after we released the video, we get rated.
00:11:30.000Now, there is a sealed affidavit somewhere that says what the probable cause is for the raid.
00:11:37.000However, the affidavit is sealed and will be sealed as long as there is an investigation.
00:11:44.000And there is no known chronology, time frame, or whatever to when the investigation will be terminated.
00:11:53.000And this is really odd to me because there's a ton of different marijuana type film documentaries out there.
00:12:02.000It seems like when you try to take a political perspective and expose those that are hypocrites, like you just said, you know, Mary Beth Buchanan in Pennsylvania, you know, where a plane went down, supposed a terrorist took it down.
00:12:14.000It seems like we've turned into the terrorists after 9-11.
00:12:16.000It seems like, you know, Patriot Act 1 and 2, and even the Military Commissions Act, is really there for the U.S.
00:12:22.000citizen and not so much the spooky terrorist.
00:12:26.000Well, you know, this is Kevin talking.
00:12:28.000You know, your guest on earlier was talking about how people didn't used to fear the police.
00:12:34.000You know, I would say that the last 37 or so years of the drug war have been a perfect way to change how everyone views police.
00:12:44.000And the drug war is a perfect way of making everybody so we fear the police now.
00:12:48.000It's really changed the game while also dumbing down America.
00:12:53.000And, you know, what other better boogeymen are there that can never be defeated but drugs and terror?
00:12:59.000How can you ever defeat drugs or terror?
00:13:03.000It's a perfect, it's a perfect, you know, sigh upon us.
00:13:07.000Yeah, it's a perfect ongoing war and a perfect way to get funding again and again and again and again.
00:13:12.000And then I would say even another aspect of this is when they jail these people for non-violent drug crimes, they're in these prisons working for privatized corporations at about 39 cents an hour, sometimes doing telemarketing.
00:13:35.000Well, obviously it was manufactured, you know, purposely or inadvertently by this administration or by the Republican Party in order to keep, first of all, in order to get them elected.
00:13:52.000And second of all, in order to keep their cronies that are making millions and billions of dollars off that, money is made with chaos.
00:14:02.000Whenever there's chaos or martial law declared, then these huge corporations can come in and just rape and pillage the villages without opposition.
00:14:17.000In fact, they do it under the guise of of trying to create law and order, like they try to create peace in Iraq.
00:14:33.000And like Matt said, or Kevin said, this is the perfect way to keep the criminals in action.
00:14:44.000It's rats in the pannery, is what I call it.
00:14:49.000And so I feel, you know, what I learned in prison is that the universe is perfect.
00:14:58.000And for every action, there's a reaction.
00:15:00.000It's called karma, whatever you want to call it.
00:15:03.000And so what we're going to witness here, what we witnessed with the George Bush, you know, time in office, we saw how the universe just played with him, you know, with Katrina, with the war, with You know, all these, you know, with Dick Cheney shooting his friend in the face with a shotgun.
00:15:21.000All these things are the universe acting against these guys, you know, because that's the way it works.
00:15:28.000So you, like Kevin, would probably say that you don't see any end in sight for the war on terror or the war on drugs?
00:15:59.000And George Bush, definitely, his time is not only numbered, But, you know, him and his boys broke international law, and so they won't be able to travel outside of the U.S. without risk of being arrested.
00:16:13.000So, oh yeah, karma is a bitch boy, and when it comes down on you, it comes down on you.
00:16:19.000And that's what kept me going, you know, while I was in jail.
00:16:25.000I just used that time, you know, to write a book and to become an activist and to, you know, travel around the country and to show people like Mary Beth Buchanan, you know, her actions, you know.
00:16:37.000I mean, it's done secretly, but I'm going to be on every major talk show, you know, just talking about it and talking about it until, you know, I embarrass the government so much.
00:16:49.000That they're just going to have to knuckle under and give up this stupid attitude they have.
00:17:39.000You know, and I had to just show that.
00:17:41.000A lot of people say they can't stand watching, but I mean, it's important For people to just see the arrogance, you know, in these drug warriors.
00:17:50.000And when you go out there, and what I found, you know, in the four years I spent trying to document the drug war, is that most of these pro-drug warriors, kind of like Tommy says, they're like rats.
00:18:00.000They scurry away, they hide in the shadows.
00:18:02.000So it's rare when you find someone who's as pro-drug warrior as Joe Arpaio is, who's proud to be on the camera.
00:18:10.000And so, you know, that's why, you know, it's important for people to see that face and to hear him talking.
00:18:16.000Just the level of self-righteousness in it and just the denial of hypocrisy, just like what we're seeing right now in this massive San Diego bust, where now something like 250 students aren't going to be graduating, all because one girl OD'd on cocaine.
00:18:32.000Well, I looked it up and, you know, the hazing deaths.
00:18:34.000I mean, you know how many students die from hazing every year or so?
00:18:37.000Once again, it's okay if you die from alcohol, it's okay if you die from cigarettes, it's certainly okay if you die from any number of pharmaceuticals.
00:18:44.000But when someone dies from illegal drugs, like, oh my God, you know, it's time to just start throwing everybody in prison.
00:18:49.000Yeah, and throwing them in prison and to someone like Arpaio who wants to dress them up in a pink prison jumpsuit, and I think it says something like, I was a drug addict, and I put on a chain gang, really dehumanizes his prisoners.
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00:24:30.000I just want to let everybody know that they can go catch a sneak peek of Alex's latest film, The 9-11 Chronicles Part 1, Truth Rising, over at the Alamo Draft House on Saturday, May 17th at 4 p.m.
00:24:43.000We're talking to Tommy Chong right now, and before we get back to the prison and dehumanization, Tommy, You mentioned how these people like to create order out of chaos, and I just have to ask you, because a lot of people have talked about this on this program, what's your view on 9-11?
00:24:57.000We've had people like Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, you know, Senators, Congressmen come on and doubt the official version.
00:25:04.000Do you doubt the official version of 9-11, Tommy?
00:25:08.000There are so many horror stories about 9-11 that have been I mean, it'll be like the Kennedy assassination, you know, years later we'll find out the truth.
00:25:37.000I mean, they blame this guy, and then they let the family go while everybody else is grounded.
00:25:42.000Yeah, it would have been great to have them, to ask them some questions, or to torture them, actually, you know.
00:25:49.000Once, you know, we got Bush, you know, got the torture thing under his belt.
00:25:54.000Well, what interests me is this week they actually reported that everybody who was involved in the USS Cole bombing, again, it's supposedly Al-Qaeda, the big boogeyman, was let go in Yemen.
00:26:03.000And you would think if this terrorism threat was real, these are the guys that would be in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, Tommy.
00:26:08.000Yeah, yeah, well, see, you see, that's how it works, you know, and that's the way it worked in prison, by the way.
00:26:14.000It's the same system that they have, you know?
00:26:18.000That's why, you know, the powers that be are perverting justice.
00:26:23.000And we get outraged, you know, because we believe in the Constitution and all that.
00:26:29.000But there was even reports about Pearl Harbor being set up.
00:26:36.000At least they knew that it was coming, and they could have done a lot more than what they did to stop it.
00:26:56.000And then you have the Project for a New American Century, which is this neocon think tank, including Cheney and Wolfowitz and people like Dan Quayle, where they actually call for this new Pearl Harbor in a document called Rebuilding America's Defenses only three months before the attacks, where they say they need it in order to transform the Middle East or Eurasia.
00:27:38.000And this is why I'm saying the universe is so perfect, because, you know, the oil prices and that have just forced people to go to the electric car.
00:27:49.000And now Toyota is the biggest car maker manufacturer in the world because they have a hybrid.
00:27:54.000And we have the technology to have full-on electric cars.
00:27:58.000And eventually we will have to have them because no one will be able to afford the gas cars.
00:28:05.000And so no matter what these guys do, eventually it balances out.
00:28:13.000I mean, the last two years, the oil companies have posted record profits.
00:28:18.000Obviously, there's no shortage of oil.
00:28:19.000What they've done is they've gone in, they've taken over the second richest oil nation in the world, Iraq, and because they control the supply, they can demand as much money as they like, and that's why we're seeing $4 a gallon oil.
00:28:31.000I'm soon to see $5 a gallon oil this summer.
00:28:33.000Absolutely, but what it does, it forces, it's just like the food shortage.
00:28:37.000You know, we have two problems in America.
00:28:40.000We're getting a food shortage and we have obesity problems.
00:28:45.000It sort of evens itself out, you know?
00:28:47.000Well, those are two subjects we actually do talk about a lot on this show.
00:28:50.000I mean, food shortage, a lot of people don't understand that the gas also jacks up the price of food because the supplies are shipped throughout the country, you know, and we're just being raped over and over again on only the gas prices but our food prices as well.
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00:33:49.000I believe this is political punishment because this film has aired more than 50 times on Showtime.
00:33:55.000I'm hearing buzz all over the street, and folks, you know, I don't say I'm hearing buzz if I'm not.
00:33:59.000I'm hearing huge buzz for American Drug War, and I think it made them mad that Tommy stood back up to him, so they went after him.
00:34:07.000That said, Mr. Chong, do you think that they're targeting you, or does your gut tell you they're coming after you because you didn't take a raping without speaking up against it?
00:34:45.000Well, that's asinine to claim that you, incredibly famous icon, need to profit from them ruining your completely legitimate family business that you weren't even really completely involved in while they ship the drugs in.
00:35:13.000And I just wanted to say that I'm so honored that we've had congressmen and Charlie Sheen and, you know, Jesse Ventura and Willie Nelson and the German defense minister and all these people on the show.
00:35:26.000And now to have Tommy Chung come out on the show and say that he questions the official story.
00:35:31.000Just so your statement is clear, are you saying you believe that they used it to take our liberties?
00:35:37.000Or are you saying that, on top of it, you believe that they may have somehow been involved?
00:35:42.000I mean, you know, with the buildings being blown up, the hijacking drills that day the government was running.
00:35:48.000I mean, bottom line, what do you think about 9-11?
00:35:50.000Well, yeah, you just said it right there.
00:35:53.000And the thing is, you know, you could speculate.
00:35:56.000But you don't have to speculate with facts.
00:36:07.000The fact that certain people weren't in the buildings that kind of knew the buildings were going to go down, that's a fact.
00:36:15.000There's all these facts and just like the there's a fact of the firemen you know why the firemen were receiving each other you know when they found a dead fireman that only firemen were allowed to to rescue the body.
00:36:30.000You know, and there's a book out there about that, why that is.
00:36:34.000I won't even say on the air why that only firemen were allowed, because I don't want to, I want people to read for themselves, you know, so Google or whatever you can, the New York firemen that were at the World Trade Center, and these are facts, and so I'm not one for speculating.
00:36:53.000Tommy, what do you think about building 7, not hit by a plane, but perfectly imploding?
00:38:37.000We've got to end this war on drugs now, and you'll be remembered as really an Alexander Schultz-Nietzsche in the fight against this tyranny, or as a Nelson Mandela for the political persecution you've gone through, Mr. Chong.
00:38:51.000And I just want to thank you for coming on my show, and everybody needs to, you know, really pray for you and support you, and, you know, call the different agencies involved in this, call the media, and not let them run you through the ringer again.
00:40:05.000One of the things that I've done with American Drug War is not only did I sit down and watch it with my girlfriend, but I also sat down and watched it with my 13-year-old sister.
00:40:15.000And I said, look, you know, this is really how it is.
00:40:18.000And she watched and she's just like, you know, that makes a lot more sense than what they're telling us.
00:40:22.000And, you know, why is it that we have, you know, triple the heroin, double the cocaine on the streets?
00:40:27.000I mean, Kevin, your film really lays it out that, yeah, they use dupes like Ricky Ross to funnel in their drugs.
00:40:36.000But I'd like to just start by saying that I, you know, I had the pleasure of seeing the AKA Tommy Chong film.
00:40:43.000Several months ago, and it's an incredible film.
00:40:46.000It's a much more personal view than my film is, but I definitely recommend anybody that's gotten anything out of watching American Drug War, which you can get at americandrugwar.com.
00:40:57.000I definitely, definitely recommend that you go to akatomichong.com right now and get a copy of that DVD before the government takes the rest of them.
00:41:06.000No, you're right, and you know, making dupes out of Ricky Ross, but it's also important to To factor in the whole pharmaceutical complex on this deal.
00:41:15.00060 Minutes ran a story about a Bayer drug that is responsible and the FDA has known that this drug called Tyrodol has been killing literally thousands of people a month.
00:41:28.000It's a drug that they use during open-heart surgery and yet they allow that.
00:41:32.000Now those people, you know, they're not going to get charged with domestic terrorism even though they're responsible for For more deaths per year than all illegal drugs combined.
00:41:42.000Meanwhile, they're locking up people, putting them in prison or camps for growing a plant.
00:41:47.000A plant which, by the way, like, you know, was part of the founding of this country.
00:41:51.000A plant that has been used medicinally for tens of thousands of years.
00:41:56.000And it's a very important factor of why marijuana is at the nexus of this whole thing.
00:42:01.000Because if they take marijuana out of the drug war equation, there's just not enough Of, you know, heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, crystal meth and all that to keep this whole drug war prison complex afloat.
00:42:14.000Because 85% of all illegal drug users only smoke marijuana.
00:42:19.000And so that's why marijuana has to be kept Schedule 1.
00:42:22.000And that's one of the biggest scams that I would, you know, hope to see changed in my lifetime, along with the legalization of medical marijuana across the board.
00:42:31.000We have to get marijuana taken out of Schedule 1.
00:42:34.000I'm with you there, but it'll be harder for them to push their brave new world on the society if they do that.
00:42:39.000I mean, they've got the people so drugged up on things like Prozac and Ritalin.
00:42:44.000It is almost like people are walking through society in like a consumerist daze.
00:42:49.000You know, you wonder why, you know, the mall culture is so big and why people don't really know what's going on in this country.
00:45:55.000We are the top of the food chain right now, trying to inform others, and that's why I think people need to see films like A.K.A.
00:46:01.000Tommy Chong, American Drug War, you know, Alex Jones' End Game, my film, Loose Change, Final Cut, because they do open your mind, and you can share them with others, and then you can create a change in this country.
00:46:13.000And by the way, there would be no need for our activism If they never raided our warehouse, for instance.
00:46:23.000If they never raided our warehouse, we would be limping along trying to convince people that there's a boogeyman.
00:46:31.000But now, that's how it works, you know?
00:46:34.000Good old Mary Beth Loose Cannon, you know?
00:46:36.000She'd come in there, and she just keeps this AKA film alive and well, and it's gonna go Uh, all over the country, because when you tell people they're not supposed to see something, that's when they want to see it.
00:47:03.000Well, I mean, she worked alongside of him.
00:47:06.000I mean, wasn't, weren't the two of them kind of together in that Operation Pipe Dreams?
00:47:10.000And I just think it's also interesting, maybe you could comment about how Operation Pipe Dreams.
00:47:14.000Well, it just sounds like the Cheech and Chong movie that we never got to see.
00:47:19.000Well, it was striking to me when it happened.
00:47:21.000I mean, because Tommy and I go back quite a few years and when I saw the CNN crawl announcing it, because I knew Tommy and Cheech were reuniting and looking for the perfect publicity stunt, you know, and when I saw the crawl I thought, you know, this has got to be a publicity stunt.
00:47:39.000And actually when I talked to Matt the other day, you know, and he sounded a little winded Sort of, you know, kind of shell-shocked, obviously, having had his warehouse storm-trooped by, you know, by these SWAT team commandos.
00:47:53.000I thought this has got to be a publicity stunt.
00:47:57.000You know, Matt engineered the perfect publicity stunt so that people would know about A.K.A.
00:48:01.000Tommy Chong, because it's just too weird, you know?
00:48:04.000And Eric Schlosser, the writer of Fast Food Nation, you know, says in the doc, he says, you know, what happened to Tommy under Operation Pipe Dreams, and even the name.
00:48:15.000It's like the worst paranoid Cheech and Chong fantasy come to life.
00:48:19.000You know, and Tommy's recent renaming of Mary Beth Buchanan, Mary Beth Loose Cannon, you know, casts her perfectly as a Cheech and Chong villain in all of this.
00:48:31.000And then the fact that Mary Beth Loose Cannon, I mean, it's perfect.
00:48:35.000And speaking of fast food too, I mean, it's just once again, I mean, more people die as a result of fast food every year.
00:48:42.000Far more than probably even heroin, cocaine, and all the terrible drugs.
00:48:46.000Not that that doesn't make those right, but it's just the ability to make, to turn those types of drugs into the boogeyman that has made it such an attractive device for these globalists.
00:48:57.000It seems like the elitists want to poison us in every way, shape, and form they possibly can from, you know, the over-the-counter drugs to the food we eat that are just so full of like fluoride and just Aspartame.
00:49:24.000I've only seen the movie with Greg Kinnear, but yeah, it's frightening.
00:49:28.000It's frightening what we put in our body, and then you try to put something natural into your body, like marijuana, and you spend nine months in prison for it, and then you make another movie, and they take your movie from you, and then they say, well, we don't have to give you back that product for 15 years.
00:49:44.000Do you have any closing statements, Tommy?
00:49:46.000Well, I just want everybody to get the AKH Tommy Chong.
00:49:54.000You know, I can talk forever, but the film itself really speaks volumes and volumes and volumes because it's more than just, you know, how bad these people are acting.
00:50:07.000What it really shows, and it's just like the 9-11 thing, you know, it shows how insane these people are.
00:50:15.000And I think they've gone insane because of the food they're eating, you know.
00:50:20.000These are victims of their own demise, in a sense, you know?
00:50:25.000And probably the prescription drugs that they take.
00:50:27.000Yeah, the prescription drugs and the alcohol they consume.
00:50:52.000We'll be back with Tommy Chong and Kevin Booth.
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00:53:09.000I was shocked when I discovered I could be inhaling these additives that can lead to coughing, wheezing, and shortness of breath, headaches, nausea, irritation of the skin, and mucous membranes.
00:54:02.000We are back with Tommy Chong and Kevin Booth as well as Josh Gilbert.
00:54:08.000and uh... matt stevens of uh... a.k.a.
00:54:11.000tommy chong you can get american drug war over at info wars dot com and tom you were just uh... finishing up a story about what you learned in prison after that i'd like you to talk about maybe the hypocrisy of those that smoke pot and i mean there's millions of people in this country that smoke pot i've heard a story that you used to hang out with schwarzenegger work out with him smoke pot with him but when you got picked up Uh, he didn't want anything to do with you and he wouldn't even talk to you.
00:54:37.000So if you could talk about that after the prison story.
00:54:42.000Yeah, I've known Arnold since he got off the, you know, the boat.
00:54:45.000In fact, we used to teach him bad English.
00:54:49.000We'd teach him what to say to girls, you know, and then he'd get his face slapped and then he'd catch on.
00:54:54.000But yeah, Arnold, I knew Pot was good for you for a few reasons.
00:55:00.000Number one, every Mr. Universe for the when they were natural you know before they And before they got into steroids and even after they got into steroids they all that was the only thing they would do They would do pot they wouldn't do alcohol they wouldn't do anything else, but they would smoke pot and then and the most intelligent ones You know there's like a I won't name them, you know, but That meathead mentality in that you Yeah, yeah.
00:55:27.000No, no, these are like guys with degrees, you know.
00:55:29.000These are brilliant, brilliant people.
00:55:32.000And they're so fussy about their diet.
00:55:35.000They won't eat chicken if it's got a little bit of skin on it, you know.
00:55:44.000They want only pure things in their body, but the only recreational relaxant they do is marijuana.
00:55:52.000And then, I just found out this recently, but the National Basketball League, the NBA, the players said, you can test us for anything, steroids, alcohol, anything, but don't test us for marijuana.
00:56:05.000If you do that, there won't be a league.
00:56:08.000There won't be the NBA, because everybody in the NBA smokes pot.
00:57:26.000They had people come up and offer me pot almost every day, and then they would drug test me because they thought for sure I was addicted, you know?
00:57:33.000Uh-huh, and that you were gonna spend some more time in prison if you did that.
00:57:37.000Yeah, they had me in the system, but as soon as I had to quit, I quit.
00:58:03.000Now, before we go, and I thank you guys for coming on, does it bother you that once Schwarzenegger gets into politics, he refuses to talk to you?
00:58:12.000Well, you know, Arnold, I've seen Arnold, I've just seen Arnold a little while ago, you know, and he recognized me, and he taught me, he gave me a big hug, but that's the way politics work.
00:58:20.000You know, that's the way, like Bill Clinton had to say he never inhaled.
01:00:18.000If you missed the first hour, you're going to want to go to InfoWars.com after the fourth hour today and check out the refeed, because we just had a blockbuster interview with Tommy Chong.
01:00:56.000It features interviews with Willie Nelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, George Carlin, Martin Sheen, as well as confrontations with political figures Bill and Hill Clinton, David Rockefeller, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Gary Hart, Obama Barack or I'm sorry Barack Obama.
01:02:03.000And of course you run JackMcLam.com and you've been at this for quite some time, haven't you?
01:02:08.000Twenty-eight years, twenty-eight and a half years now.
01:02:12.000What was it that really woke you up and you found your calling in this police and military against the New World Order?
01:02:20.000Well, after the Vietnam War, I had gone into business and was out in Santa Monica, California, and a Hollywood producer gave me a copy of a book.
01:02:41.000And that book was by W. Cleon Skousen, and I'm trying to think what the name of it was.
01:02:55.000That's the late 60s when he gave me this book.
01:03:01.000And basically it was after the reading of this book that you real started to turn your head?
01:03:07.000Well, yes, I tried to give it to some two very big, powerful men who ran the Amway Corporation, who quoted and said all the time that they were American patriots.
01:03:23.000And so I tried to give this book to them, and they shunned me.
01:03:28.000They just shunned me and ran away from me.
01:03:34.000that ran Amway Corporation, and then I found out that they were part of the globalist movement, you know, and that's why they told me to take it back to the Hollywood producer and give it back to him, don't give it to us, because it laid out the international criminal conspiracy because it laid out the international criminal conspiracy to put us under this Antichrist world government system.
01:03:57.000And these two Amway top dogs were supposed to be Christians and patriots, and the way they treated me, I was real suspicious, And I looked up more about them and found out that they're part of the CFR and other organizations setting up this Antichrist world government system.
01:04:19.000And then when I moved out to Phoenix, Arizona to become a law enforcement officer and went into the police academies there at 32 years of age, With 20 and 21-year-olds, I was very knowledgeable, much, much more knowledgeable about life than these young people, some of them still living at home with their mommies and daddies.
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01:08:03.000I just want to remind everybody, you can grab American Drug War, the film featuring Tommy Chong, with even a Tommy Chong extra at the end of it.
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01:08:59.000Yes, it made a tremendous difference that I was 32 and these 20, 21 year old skulls full of mush We're in there, and everything they were told they believed by our superiors, but I realized that they were being lied to over and over again.
01:09:16.000By the way, the name of that book was The Naked Capitalist by W. Cleon Skousen, and it was Rich DeVos and Jay Van Andel, the two top dogs that formed Amway, that are globalists, hardcore globalists, and that's why Amway did so well all over the world and moved so quickly.
01:09:38.000When I went in the police academy at 32 years of age, I heard our superiors come in all the time.
01:09:47.000And once again, it was important that I was in business after the Vietnam War because I learned how to sell people, you know, sell people products.
01:09:58.000And I thought, well, a good relationship with the community Caring and being concerned and being a part of the community as a police officer would be very important to law enforcement work.
01:10:12.000Well, when I was in the police academy, I heard things over and over again like, you're no longer citizens, you're an entity of government promoted above the citizens to better supervise them for their own good.
01:10:26.000And these young skulls full of mush, 20, 21 year olds just grinned and loved it to hear that they were promoted above the citizens.
01:10:34.000We're giving guns and nightsticks and everything, and they're going to be supervising the public, not serving them.
01:10:41.000And then they'd come in and say, you can't trust the citizens out there to ever come to your aid.
01:10:46.000You can only trust fellow police officers.
01:10:49.000And over and over again, every few days, these superiors would come in and train these young people.
01:10:56.000And what I saw happening, my friend, was they were Psychologically dividing the police officers from the public.
01:11:06.000They were broadening the gap between citizen and law enforcement officer.
01:11:12.000And I didn't understand why until at the end of our 16 weeks in the Regional Police Academy.
01:11:19.000They came in and said, now one day you're going to be asked to do things you won't want to do and you won't like to do, but if you don't do these things, society will collapse.
01:11:29.000And so it was an all 16 weeks of brainwashing of these young people.
01:11:34.000Well, it didn't take on me very well because I knew that the things, many of the things we were being told were lies because I had life experience that these young people didn't.
01:11:46.000And so that's why they don't like old cops.
01:11:49.000Well, I mean, they're trying to brainwash you into thinking into separating you from civilians the same way they do in the military, where they bring these guys through basic training and they say, hey, you're part of this elite unit.
01:12:01.000And yeah, like you said, the younger minds often take to that philosophy and they really don't see other people outside of their uniform as human beings anymore.
01:12:10.000No, it's really a separation between the two.
01:12:14.000And now that they're militarizing the police and setting up these Blackwater agencies, even here in Idaho, they're trying to set one up to send our police officers to learn to kill and maim and act like animals.
01:12:30.000I shouldn't use the term animal because animals don't even act like that, but monsters.
01:12:39.000Twelve hours a day, and much of that time I'm communicating on the web with police officers and soldiers, and our job here is to educate our police and soldiers for the last 28 years as volunteers here.
01:12:53.000And I see the change in the attitude of the police and the military towards the public today.
01:13:01.000But one great thing is happening, brother, is that our soldiers are really getting angry Over there in Iraq and Afghanistan, as their family writes to them, as they allegedly are over there to bring democracy to those countries, and their families telling them how many freedoms are being taken away from us here at home.
01:13:26.000And so the soldiers are reacting horribly to the fact that there's a big con job going on.
01:13:34.000They're over there bringing democracy, allegedly.
01:13:38.000They're taking over those lands and the oil for the international criminal elite.
01:13:45.000Many of them don't realize that, but they are very upset that we're losing our freedoms here at home.
01:13:52.000As they're supposedly bringing freedom to the people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
01:13:56.000Well, I think that's why they've set up things like Blackwater and CACI forces, is because in order to squelch down on the public here, in America, you need these privatized forces that don't have the ties at home, whereas a U.S.
01:14:09.000soldier might find a problem sweeping a U.S.
01:14:13.000Somebody from Mexico or, you know, a prisoner, really, because they like to recruit them, too, isn't going to have that same problem.
01:14:20.000And then you have Halliburton, a private corporation building FEMA camps in this country, then Halliburton leaves the country and goes to Dubai.
01:14:29.000Well, if martial law is ever declared in this country, Halliburton's simply going to use these CACI forces, these Blackwater forces, to round people up and put them in these camps.
01:14:38.000And it's going to be awfully hard for us to rise up against Halliburton if they're not even in the country, Jack.
01:14:44.000And that's why the Bush family bought two million acres down in South America.
01:14:50.000All of these big international criminal elite are buying property out of this country so that they can get out of here when they put us under martial law because they don't want us to rise up and come after them.
01:15:03.000So they're all buying outside this country right as we speak right now.
01:15:08.000And same with Halliburton, getting the heck out of here.
01:15:15.000Still, his business today, although he lies and says it's not, that he's not connected to it, but he is, he makes multi-millions a year off Halliburton.
01:15:25.000And right now, the Carlisle Group, Cheney, Bush, and Osama Bin Laden are business partners in the Carlisle Group, and they're going around buying up all the American ammunition companies right now that make ammunition here for America.
01:15:41.000To make sure that Americans can't get any.
01:15:43.000Well, I feel like the public got a little too hip to the Carlyle Group because they just announced its bankruptcy about two weeks ago.
01:16:07.000I want to get into some of the police state news.
01:16:10.000Just in on May 2nd, I don't know if you've heard this yet, but IBM has now joined Lockheed Martin's team for the FBI's next generation of identification.
01:16:19.000And it's all about biometrics, and it's all about facial recognition capabilities.
01:16:24.000And instead of just thumbprints, we're now going to have palm prints, Jack.
01:16:32.000Well, a lot of people don't know that IBM actually created the first tabulation machines, which were the first computers, for the Nazis so that they could do their roundup in Germany.
01:16:49.000That's how they mobilized their concentration camps, their work camps, their death camps.
01:16:54.000And if you don't think that's coming here, why is it that IBM's joining Lockheed Martin, this super military industrial complex unit, in order to provide the next generation of identification?
01:17:09.000Let me tell you something that not many people know, too.
01:17:12.000That it was the secret, super secret organizations, government organizations that promoted in America this tremendous rush to go out and get yourself tattooed.
01:17:27.000Because when I was with the Phoenix Police Department, I was the intelligence officer for the Phoenix Police Department, I realized working with the FBI and other agencies that we loved To see people go out and get tattoos.
01:17:45.000Because every time that person is stopped, the officer writes it down, takes a picture of the tattoo, and sends it in for their case file.
01:17:55.000Even if it's just a private citizen on a traffic stop.
01:18:23.000I've been incarcerated before and I've been processed.
01:18:25.000And one of the first questions they ask you is, do you have any birthmarks or tattoos?
01:18:29.000So if you don't have a birthmark, you know, and I actually have one on my arm that's pretty visible that they must love.
01:18:36.000But you know, then they're like, well, what tattoos do you have?
01:18:37.000And then you write down what tattoos are they searching?
01:18:40.000Like, oh, you didn't put that one down.
01:18:42.000And that is a lot easier identification than having to run somebody's fingerprint because You know, obviously you have to run that through a database, whereas if somebody gives you a name, you can immediately pull up that name and see what tattoos they have, check the tattoos on them, and it's either that person or it isn't.
01:20:48.000It is now time to rein in evil and bring them to justice.
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01:20:59.000The number of the mounted troops was 200 million, the vast majority of the population of the U.S.
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01:23:47.000Day after day, alone on a hill, the man with the foolish grin is keeping perfectly still.
01:24:05.000But nobody wants to know him, they can see that he's just a fool.
01:24:13.000And he never gives an answer But the fool on the hill sees the sun going down And the eyes in his head see the world spinning round All right, we are back on the Alex Jones Show.
01:24:35.000I am Jason Burmas, subbing in for my final day.
01:24:38.000In the final hour, we're actually going to be re-airing the Willie Nelson interview, and if you missed any of the first hour, boy did you miss out.
01:24:44.000Okay, Tommy Chong was with us for an entire hour, talked about the drug war, talked about 9-11.
01:24:50.000You can hear the re-feed only at infowars.com after the fourth hour.
01:24:56.000I'm sure it's going to be YouTube posting and some stories over at InfoWars and Prison Planet.
01:25:01.000I want to remind everybody that they can get a copy of American Drug War, The Last White Hope, over at InfoWars.com.
01:25:08.000But if you happen to live in the Glendale area of California, there is going to be a screening of that film in a theater.
01:25:16.000You see it on the big screen with filmmaker Kevin Booth.
01:25:19.000That's on May 9th at 7pm, and it is the First Lutheran Church of Glendale.
01:25:24.000Again, Glendale Californians can see that for only a $10 donation, and you get to meet Kevin Booth, who is an excellent filmmaker.
01:25:31.000Aaron Dykes came in a little while ago, and he said he had just watched it last night, and it was boss, and he wanted to give kudos to Kevin.
01:25:38.000Like I said, I watched it back in December.
01:25:41.000If you haven't seen it, if you don't know how this scam is working, how they're shipping in the drugs, how they use dupes, how they actually make the profits on the cocaine and the heroin, you need to see American Drug War, The Last White Hope.
01:25:55.000All right, back to our guest, Jack McClam.
01:25:57.000We're talking about, you know, the police state, overseas, the whole deal.
01:26:01.000Where do you see us going, Jack, in the next six months to a year?
01:26:05.000Do you see, you know, an invasion of Iran?
01:26:07.000Do you see that happening after the Bush administration is out?
01:26:10.000Obviously, we know that there isn't going to be much of a difference between the Bush administration, the McCain administration, the Clinton administration, Clinton 2, I should say, or the Obama administration.
01:26:20.000They're all owned by the same interests, aren't they?
01:26:25.000They're totally owned and puppets, just like boy George Bush is.
01:26:30.000Cheney's really our president because he gives the marching orders to boy George Bush, and he dances around and acts like a good little Christian boy.
01:26:44.000But Cheney works, and so does Bush, actually, under the CFR.
01:26:50.000The neocontrotskyites control the White House, the military, and we've heard this from many, many great American patriotic Jewish brothers and sisters in the military, that the neocontrotskyites control the military today, and we are going to war with Iran unless God stops it, because you and I can't do it.
01:27:15.000But they've now sent the nuclear subs over there, U.S.
01:27:18.000nuclear subs, and just sent a third force, flat top over to there, attack force.
01:27:28.000And they're really revving it up to go to war with Iran.
01:27:34.000And the sad thing about it is we've heard from our intel people here at our two police and military associations that they've pointed out 10,000 targets in Iran that they're going to bomb, 10,000 targets in Iran that they're going to bomb, 10,000 10,000 targets.
01:27:53.000Now, the reason for doing this is that they made a mistake in Iraq and they didn't kill enough of the citizens.
01:28:01.000And the citizens are rising up today because we've killed 1,200,000 men, women, and children over there.
01:28:08.000And the citizens are the ones that are really the The fighters.
01:28:18.000Whether you're just a person in a hut trying to defend your village or you're an actual terrorist, you're Al-Qaeda.
01:28:23.000Yeah, but the intel people tell us that they hope to kill 50 million Iranians out of the 72 million Iranians that are over there so that they will not have this citizen standing up to fight our forces in Iran.
01:28:39.000So, 50 million is on the target to kill with this 10,000 targets that they've designated there.
01:28:48.000And these are not just nuclear reactors, I mean, 10,000 targets.
01:28:52.000They're going to clean out the whole country.
01:31:17.000Let's start that story again by saying, once upon a day, a nation was born.
01:31:23.000On that day, one of the men who signed the birthing document, Samuel Adams, said, quote, We have this day restored the sovereign to whom alone men ought to be obedient.
01:31:33.000He reigns in heaven, and from the rising to the setting sun may his kingdom come, end quote.
01:31:39.000One history book said of that day, and I quote, As the news of the declaration spread abroad in the newborn nation, Americans everywhere were delirious.
01:31:48.000Samuel Adams wrote, The people, I am told, recognized the resolution as though it were a decree promulgated from heaven.
01:31:56.000What's untold is an ancient prophecy telling of a nation that would indeed be born in a day.
01:32:03.000And what is really untold is that that exact day of birth was calculated and given 2,520 years prior to the birthday.
01:32:14.000Want to know the prophecy and the calculation of that exact birthday?
01:33:38.000They're building... Our soldiers are telling us here at our two police and military associations that they're building 21 buildings there in the green zone that they're saying is an embassy.
01:33:51.000Now, I've been... I grew up in Washington, D.C.
01:33:58.000And so what they're building here, according to our soldiers, is the military headquarters for taking over the whole Middle East and running this world government system out of Babylon, Iraq.
01:34:13.000And if you read the Holy Scriptures, it says that the Middle East is where the world government will be operated from.
01:34:20.000And so they're setting up this Antichrist system right there in Iraq, Babylon.
01:34:26.000Uh, to control the whole Middle East and to set up this, uh, and by the way, Saudi Arabia is next after we take over Iran.
01:34:34.000I've been told by sources that Saudi Arabia is next.
01:34:38.000So they think they're our buddies, but no, they're going to get bombed into the stone age.
01:34:43.000And we're going to, uh, our military is going to die over there too for these international criminals.
01:34:48.000They want to take over the whole Middle East.
01:34:50.000Well, I always felt that that's what they were set up for.
01:34:52.000That's why they said 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia, because they knew they were going to be able to fool the American people into going into Afghanistan.
01:35:01.000After all, that was where bin Laden was, the main guy.
01:35:04.000And they were going to be able to fool people into Iraq, because they had been demonized over the last decade or so.
01:35:09.000Really, two decades almost, with Operation Desert Storm.
01:35:14.000And all that in the early 90s, and I always felt after we had the landmass of Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq, we would have a landmass almost as large as Saudi Arabia, and we can use that as a launching base to invade that nation as well.
01:35:28.000Sure, yeah, and that's what it's all about.
01:35:31.000It's all happening in the Middle East.
01:35:32.000That's why we ought to be very concerned about, especially Christians out there, funding this Antichrist system that's being set up.
01:35:41.000So many Christians are saying, yeah, yeah, go get them!
01:35:51.000I'm a born-again Christian, but I've read the Bible myself.
01:35:55.000I haven't just listened to my government preacher tell me about what's in it.
01:35:59.000But we're helping set up the Antichrist world government system by going to war and taking over these nations.
01:36:07.000For these Antichrist international criminal elite in this country.
01:36:11.000So, shame on you Christians for funding and pushing these wars in the Middle East.
01:36:18.000Well, the majority of Christians in this country still believe that George Bush is a man of Jesus Christ, when in fact he goes to the Bohemian Grove in Sonoma, California for two weeks out of the year to kick off the whole ceremony with
01:36:33.000The cremation of care where they all dress up like pagans and have little hoods and do, you know, Babylonian rituals, really, like this hour-long ritual of a mock sacrifice in front of the owl god named Moloch, a Canaanite deity where people used to sacrifice their children to.
01:38:04.000I was listening to the show and I heard that you had Jack on and I just wanted to, well, Jack was one of the people that helped enlighten me.
01:38:14.000Remember, well, you probably still have a Jack the Vampire Killer 2000 book?
01:38:23.000Yeah, Brother Joe, it's so good to hear your voice.
01:38:26.000Listen, I'd love to get you on my radio program sometime.
01:38:31.000I'd love to be on, but I just wanted to say, you know, just as one living example, you know, of somebody, while I was still working for the IRS, I mean, some of the materials that I was given was Jack's materials, and, you know, it helped me understand and grasp how I was this little cog in this wheel of tyranny.
01:38:53.000And, you know, I know that the people who have never heard Jack speak, Maybe you're new to, you know, Jason and all his work with 9-11.
01:39:01.000I mean, they just think, well, you people are all a bunch of kooks.
01:39:05.000I mean, you know, our government can be trusted, and what are you talking about?
01:39:08.000And you just find out how you're helping this system to advance, and it's, you know, evil and tyrannical, and you're basically helping to, I think one of the founding fathers said, helping to rivet the chains on the necks of your fellow Americans.
01:39:27.000Well, the bottom line is that Americans really have had it too good for too long on the outset.
01:39:32.000They don't see this tyranny because it's not in their face every single day.
01:39:36.000I mean, the $4.50 a gallon gas, the fact that we have troops over in the Middle East dying all the time, but it's still on such a level that they're codified into this, you know, mall culture where the TV is going to tell me what to do, I'm going to follow the TV, I'm going to go to the mall, I'm going to have my car payments, I'm going to send my kids to college and everything's great, you know, the government isn't that bad.
01:39:59.000And the other thing is that people also feel like they can't make a difference.
01:40:02.000Well, Joe, you're one of those people out there that has made a difference.
01:40:06.000Well, and I just, you know, whatever little difference I've made, it was just being on the shoulders of, like, you know, Jack saying that he's been at this for 28 plus years, and, you know, the work that you've done, Jason, and, you know, we really all just kind of Take a little bit from those that have come before us and continue the battle.
01:40:27.000It's the people that aren't getting in there and helping to row the boat.
01:40:31.000We need to get them on board as well so we can I'm with you, Joe.
01:40:45.000He is a great American hero, and he's featured in America, Freedom to Fascism, one of the best tools that we have out there to wake people up, not only to the fraud of the Federal Reserve System, But the coming Real ID Act, and the uh, the chipping!
01:41:44.000This neocontrast controlled government of ours are very scared of special forces and our military.
01:41:51.000That's why they just passed that bill to disarm our military, 200,000 that have PTSD and everything.
01:41:59.000But also they're putting these chips in our special forces out there.
01:42:06.000And what we've heard through very deep intel sources is these chips they're putting in special forces have an explosive chip part in that chip.
01:42:17.000That puts poison into the system and kills that special forces officer if he joins in with the Patriots and tries to save America.
01:42:25.000So, if any of these special forces guys think it's really neat to have that chip, because if you get lost behind enemy lines, they can find you easy.
01:42:36.000But, secretly, in that chip, there's an explosive device that poisons you, and you die within just a couple minutes.
01:42:44.000After that chip goes off and they can set off that chip by satellite.
01:42:49.000So... I think it's also scary that they're chipping regular citizens.
01:42:52.000I mean, it's one thing to be in the military, to be in special forces, to be kind of like, culled and brainwashed into taking it.
01:42:59.000But right now they're proposing that anybody south of Mexico, the Mexican government wants to do away with passports and chip people to come into this country.
01:43:07.000And the only person that's reported on it is Lou Dobbs on CNN for 40 seconds, one night.
01:43:17.000If you want to leave the country, you now have to get chipped.
01:43:20.000And when we get into this North American Union, Jack, when they finally put it together with the United States, Mexico, and Canada, who's to say you're not going to have to have a chip to come into this country?
01:43:35.000Well, that's one of the biggest things that got me involved in this movement.
01:43:37.000When I first saw 9-11 and the Road to Tyranny in 2002 when I was doing my initial research into 9-11 and I saw the Jacobs family get on the Today Show and take government ships together and say how it made them feel safer from terror and they didn't mind taking it for this government.
01:44:35.000He might have an answer about this Iranian situation that he wrote about in the American Free Press concerning Russia and Putin might be the only bulwark over there against an invasion.
01:44:50.000There are intel people that Putin Is really ticked off about this war coming up with America against Iran.
01:45:01.000And Putin is deeply involved, Russia is deeply involved in Iran in business dealings and so forth.
01:45:08.000So there's a very good likelihood that we can find ourselves at war with Russia.
01:45:15.000Not just a cold war either, but a hot war with Russia if we go into Iran.
01:45:21.000After all, the international criminal elite want World War III.
01:45:26.000So if Russia will get involved in a war with us over Iran, this helps them push for their goal for World War III.
01:45:36.000What they're trying to do, according to our intel people, is cause the Muslims across the world, 1,300,000,000,000, to stand up and go to war.
01:45:48.000And that's a lot of soldiers out there.
01:45:52.000But anyway, they want them to stand up and go to war all across the world so that there will be blood in the streets all across the world.
01:46:01.000And the people across the world will cry out for world peace, and they can just shuttle us right under the communist-controlled United Nations system for world peace.
01:46:16.000And if you remember, back during the time that Russia was around, when they would say, peace, peace, peace, it meant no opposition to communism.
01:46:26.000So when these guys say world peace, it means no opposition to the Antichrist world government system, is what world peace is going to be.
01:46:35.000But it's going to be the super rich and the super poor, no middle class, just like it was in Russia.
01:46:41.000And so, yeah, they want World War III, so if Russia will get involved in the war when we go into Iran, they're going to have a big smile on their face because they want to promote this world government system and have the people cry out for peace across the world after enough of their countrymen are killed and go into this world government system.
01:47:31.000He knows He knows damn well what the New World Order is, and he says he's promoting the New World Order.
01:47:36.000Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of the UK, Gordon Brown, in front of the CBI just before he became the Prime Minister of the UK, did like a five-minute speech just on the New World Order, talked about the economics of the New World Order, you know, the policies in the New World Order, where the UK would be in the New World Order.
01:47:54.000I mean, It was actually the front page of their papers the next day.
01:47:58.000You know, Brown calls for a new world order.
01:48:00.000We've had the Pope call for a new world order.
01:48:02.000When are people going to wake up, Jack?
01:48:05.000Well, we've learned through our Catholic brothers and sisters in the military that Pope John Paul II was the leader in going across the world.
01:48:16.000And we have two videotapes, as a matter of fact, of him talking to witches and snake handlers, telling them that He wants them in his world religion.
01:48:26.000So it's the Roman Popage system setting up the world religion under the Antichrist, and the communist Zionist Gentiles that call themselves Jews in Israel, and here in America they're called neocons, but they're actually Gentiles that call themselves Jews.
01:48:45.000Just like in Revelations, God said at this time there would be people calling themselves Jews that were not.
01:48:52.000And they're setting up the political world government system.
01:48:55.000At the time, the Catholics, this rat-slinger, the new Pope, is doing the same thing now that John Paul II was doing.
01:49:07.000One called is the Pope Catholic, and the other one, Vatican Rising, that shows Pope John Paul II going around across the world Telling snake handlers and the worshippers of Shiva, taking the mark of Shiva in his forehead and telling them they don't need Jesus Christ because they have their own path to heaven, and inviting them into the world religion.
01:49:29.000So, yes, there is two things going on at once.
01:49:33.000World politics, world religion, and world politics coming together to control, so that the people that need that aphrodisiac of religion Well, I feel like they use three major things to divide and conquer, and that is race, politics, and religion.
01:49:55.000And, like, as you said, you know, when you have the Pope, who's supposed to be the head of the Catholics, going around promoting a one-world religion, there is obviously an ulterior motive.
01:50:09.000It's very sad, too, because I see the top People in the Baptist Church, the Lutheran Church, the Methodist Church, they are globalists, the very top people and they're working to put us under this world religion too.
01:50:23.000And they're having great success at it by telling the ministers in seminaries that misinterpretations of Romans 13 that we must obey everything government tells us to do.
01:50:35.000I want to talk Romans 13 when we come back in the final segment, Jack.
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01:54:51.000Jack, we're talking Romans 13, and I had a guest on discussing it yesterday, and basically what has happened is FEMA has went around the country, sent officials to these local churches, talked to pastors, and put them on a payroll to tell people that Romans 13 should be followed, and that indeed the government is God, and if they come and they round us up, we should go with them.
01:55:28.000But anyway, yes, over 30,000 pastors now, Christian pastors, have signed on to convince their flock of the lie that Romans 13, when they went to the seminaries, Since the 1900s, we've had several communists tell us that the seminaries in America were taken over by God's enemies in the early 1900s.
01:55:54.000And they've taught the ministers, the prospective ministers, to come out and tell the people that all government's of God, so we must obey all government.
01:56:03.000Well, when you have a totally evil government, it goes against Psalms 94, 16.
01:56:10.000God says, rise up against the evildoers and stand up against the workers of iniquity.
01:56:15.000And when you sit back and let Satan take over our government as it has today, And sit back and say what the other lie the minister told you is that you're going to be raptured out of here next week, so who cares?
01:56:30.000Just sit back, keep your head down, don't make the government mad, let Satan take over, and we're leaving here next week.
01:56:37.000Well, Billy Graham's been saying that for 75 years, and we're still here!
01:56:42.000And so, if you really read the Scriptures, you'll find out Jesus Christ Himself said the ones that are going to be raptured out are the evil ones.
01:56:51.000And I could show you where that's at in the Bible.
01:56:54.000I can't think of the chapter right now in verse.
01:57:11.000And so, we've been lied to, and brother, The Christians have totally withdrawn from this battle that God told us to be in, beyond the field of battle against his enemies, and occupy until his return.
01:57:25.000Well, it's been said, for evil to succeed, all it takes is good men to do nothing, and that's what they're encouraging.
01:57:36.000I mean, 30,000 people would be enough, but these pastors are in charge of flocks in the hundreds and thousands.
01:57:42.000I mean, we're talking up to maybe 3, 4, 5 million people that believe this that are just going to go along willingly when these are people that should be fighting by our side against our globalist enemies.
01:57:54.000You know, these guys are not Christians.
01:57:56.000I want to reiterate that one more time.
02:00:56.000I'd like you to go into depth on that.
02:00:59.000Well, that relationship goes through Baltimore.
02:01:05.000Gene first had problems with the government.
02:01:08.000It was as a result of an investigation started by the Internal Revenue Service office in Baltimore.
02:01:17.000What was really going on in Baltimore was that the U.S.
02:01:20.000Attorney for Maryland, Tom DiBaggio, was looking into the involvement of high-level Republicans in Maryland and in Baltimore using public funds to pay for the escorts who work for Gene Palfrey's Pamela Martin & Associates.
02:01:42.000As a matter of fact, he obviously saw her as a very Uh, potentially good witness to prosecute the people he was going after for this malfeasance with public funds.
02:01:57.000One of the guys he nailed was Ed Norris, the police commissioner for Baltimore, who the Republican Governor of Maryland, Bob Ehrlich, then made head of the Maryland State Police.
02:02:08.000So here you have Baltimore's top cop and then Maryland's top cop.
02:02:16.000It's at that point in time when he's looking at that, that the IRS begins their investigation of Gene Palfrey, and also it involves the Postal Inspection Service.
02:02:26.000And that started this whole process where, you know, Gene was the one who was being gone after, but Ehrlich was left alone.
02:02:36.000Uh, DeBaggio did nail Ed Norris, who did, uh, did some time in jail, but is now a conservative talk show host in Baltimore and a real darling of the right wing up there.
02:02:46.000Uh, but we also have to remember, uh, uh, Abramoff.
02:02:50.000Abramoff, uh, was a resident of Silver Spring, Maryland.
02:02:57.000Uh, some of this money was coming from Israeli sources.
02:03:00.000That's a violation of the law right there.
02:03:02.000You can't be a political candidate and take money from foreign sources.
02:03:08.000It was also coming from some of Abramoff's African clients, including the government of Gabon, which is a dictatorship.
02:03:17.000But we now know that Shirlington Limousine, which was ferrying around escorts for Duke Cunningham and CIA Director Porter Goss of the Watergate hotel in the Westing Grand Hotel here in Washington.
02:03:30.000Sherlington Limousine was ferrying around Pamela Martin escorts.
02:03:34.000Of course, we know what happened to Duke Cunningham.
02:03:37.000We know what happened to the two lobbyists he was dealing with, Mitchell Wade with MZM, and Brent Wilkes, who was another San Diego-based contractor.
02:03:49.000I know from Jean that a person named Brent called her consistently from Poway in California to arrange for these escorts in Washington.
02:04:02.000And, of course, Poway was the headquarters for Brent Wilkes, the head of these various defense contractors, and Brent Wilkes was convicted on 13 counts of, Of, uh, of, uh, fraud and wire fraud and what have you.
02:04:20.000Uh, he was involved with, um, with, with all these individuals.
02:04:24.000Well, when we get back, I want to, I want to discuss Porter Goss a little bit because not only was he the head of the CIA, but he was one of the co-chairs of the initial 9-11 investigation by Congress.
02:04:33.000And he happened to be meeting on the morning of 9-11 with General Mahmoud Ahmed, uh, and Bob Graham.
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02:07:54.000All right, we are back with Wayne Mattson of the Wayne Mattson Report.
02:07:58.000And Wayne, I just discussed a little bit about Porter Goss, and why I think that Porter Goss is so important is not only his ties to the initial congressional investigation in 9-11, not only his ties to General Mahmoud Ahmed of the ISI, who supposedly wired $100,000 to ADA just before the attacks, according to the official version, that would be one-fifth Well, he brought in his own cronies into the CIA.
02:08:23.000Porter Goss had been a clandestine officer for the CIA back in the 60s, and for some reason he abruptly leaves the CIA, resurfaces in Florida, where he starts to get active in local politics, and is eventually elected as a member of the House of Representatives.
02:08:49.000And then becomes the Chairman of the House, you know, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the oversight body for the CIA, which, you know, he was always interested in going back to the CIA as Director.
02:09:02.000And there was a very unusual and suspicious suicide in 2000.
02:09:09.000John Millis, who had been the Executive Director under Goss, Had some sort of breaking with him, and they found Goss supposedly shot to death with a shotgun at a seedy motel in Fairfax, Virginia.
02:09:23.000You know, he had another suspicious suicide.
02:09:26.000So we not only have Gene Palfrey, we have many, many suspicious quote-unquote suicides here.
02:09:32.000And this one, of course, was John Millis, who had been a 13-year veteran of both the CIA and worked for a short time at the NSA, the National Security Agency.
02:09:41.000Millis had been involved with support of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.
02:09:46.000The same people, we're told, mushroomed into and morphed into Al-Qaeda later.
02:09:55.000Of course, Goss would have never, never looked at these issues when he was conducting his investigation in 9-11, and hopefully in an Obama administration.
02:10:06.000He's already said, Obama said his first act will be to have his new Attorney General investigate the Bush administration for any past crimes, and we could only hope that they would include the real story about what happened on 9-11 and who the real perpetrators were.
02:10:22.000Well, I'm pretty skeptical about anything an Obama administration is going to do, but I will say this, as the Bush administration leaves, I think that we are going to see the release of a lot more documents.
02:10:33.000I mean, even Joseph Biden Who is well aware of this Pakistani funding has actually talked about it on camera and then said it was classified.
02:10:41.000Also talked about able danger and how there be a lot more coming out about that as the administration leaves.
02:10:47.000But I don't see a huge amount of information coming out.
02:11:07.000Why don't you talk about his connections?
02:11:09.000Who else is Goss connected to that makes him such a prominent target?
02:11:15.000Well, Goss, of course, goes back to the 60s.
02:11:17.000He was working at the CIA station in Miami.
02:11:21.000And we now know that the CIA station in Miami was basically in ground zero for the operations being conducted against Fidel Castro in Cuba.
02:11:33.000It's also where the plot to kill President Kennedy was first.
02:11:37.000Kennedy was first going to be hit in Miami, and they had to change it later to Dallas because the Miami operation wasn't going to be successful.
02:11:48.000So we have Goss's dirty fingerprints all over that time period where we saw some of the people that came out of that CIA operation.
02:11:58.000Also included, some people who were later caught burglarizing Democratic National Headquarters at the Watergate.
02:12:25.000Only, and sometimes the faces change, but in the case of Porter Goss, the same Porter Goss who was at the CIA station in Miami plotting to kill Castro and invade Cuba, the same Porter Goss that may have had his fingerprints, at least with people involved with the assassination of President Kennedy, and the same Porter Goss that seems to have his fingerprints on 9-11.
02:12:47.000Thank you so much for going over that for the listeners.
02:12:49.000That really shows you how these intelligence spooks really keep through history and they get away with it.
02:12:56.000It looks like this guy's going to get away with it, especially now that Palfrey is gone.
02:13:00.000Do you think there's a chance that her list is ever going to come to light of who her customers actually were?
02:14:56.000Abramoff purchased some cruise casino boats from a Florida businessman named Gus Boulis.
02:15:03.000And then Boulis later said, hey, there was some hanky-panky involvement.
02:15:07.000In this deal, he wanted to get his cruise boats back, but Fulis was gunned down, gangland assassination style, on the street in broad daylight in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
02:15:19.000We do know from certain reports that two of the 9-11 hijackers, Atta and possibly al-Shahi, were spotted on Abramoff Sun Cruise boat that Abramoff owned out of Madeira Beach, Florida, near Tampa.
02:15:45.000So this notion that these were these Islamist radicals praying to Allah before they hijacked planes, split-throats, and put them in the buildings is nonsensical because I also know that the hijackers who hijacked a United 93 out of Newark the night before, or at a strip club in Wayne, New Jersey, sticking dollar bills into G-strings.
02:16:08.000So these don't sound like the Muslims, at least the ones portrayed in the movie, about United 93 that were shaving themselves, their body hair, and praying to Allah and reading out of the Quran before they hijacked the airplanes.
02:16:21.000It's just total, it's just more nonsense.
02:16:24.000It was created, As almost like a Hollywood type disinformation campaign.
02:16:30.000These guys, Ata was known to be a drug mule for people probably associated with U.S.
02:16:48.000So the mere fact that he had been working alongside U.S.
02:16:53.000intelligence assets For years should have told us that, all of us, that what we were told about 9-11 and what was the actual case of 9-11 are two entirely different things.
02:17:05.000Well, I'd also like to point out that Atta also, through a Freedom of Information Act request, we know that a Mohammed Atta attended the Maxwell Air Force Base Academy.
02:17:18.000I mean, we have all these eyewitness accounts that he always had money, he always had cocaine, he enjoyed the company of strippers, he's on gambling boats, and not only that, but he was reported as one of these guys that was going to hijack a plane by James Woods, the actor, and another woman on the airplane, Uh, you know, he went on Fox News and talked about this.
02:17:36.000A couple months before 9-11, he said he spotted Otta and three of the other hijackers in jumpsuits, thought they were gonna hijack the plane, thought so, so much, that after he got off the plane, he and a stewardess actually filed a report with the FAA, but apparently it was never followed up on, Wayne.
02:17:51.000Of course not, and we know all this with Zacharias Moussaoui, Colleen Rowley wanted to get a search warrant up in Minneapolis for his computer.
02:18:01.000It was stymied by the FBI in Washington.
02:18:04.000It's quite, quite clear what happened.
02:18:06.000These people say, well, it was fault of the U.S.
02:18:15.000law enforcement that aided and abetted in the worst crime we've seen in this country probably ever.
02:18:23.000And, of course, we're told to believe the 9-11 Commission report, which was engineered by Phil Delacalle.
02:18:30.000Now we know that Karl Rove influenced that report.
02:18:33.000The original chairman was supposed to be Henry Kissinger.
02:18:36.000The biggest American war criminal of this and the last century, and we're supposed to believe this nonsense.
02:18:44.000Bill Delacalle, by the way, comes from the Miller Institute out of the University of Virginia, and the Miller Institute has made its name in trying to debunk Anyone who would question the official version of what happened to President Kennedy in Dallas, they stand by the Warren Commission when everybody else with an ounce of sanity knows that the Warren Commission report, just like the 9-11 Commission report, was mere fantasy.
02:19:09.000One of the things I like to point out is that although it's very hyped that Able Danger identified Atta prior to 9-11, they don't talk about the other three hijackers that they also identified.
02:19:19.000And they identified Khalid Al-Madar and Nawaf Al-Zahami.
02:19:22.000Well, it turns out those two guys are living with and renting from a tested FBI informant.
02:19:27.000And then when it comes time for them to talk to officials, the FBI is thwarting that, so nobody gets to talk to this informant.
02:19:34.000I want to get your take on that on the other side.
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02:24:02.000We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans.
02:24:07.000We fired our guns and the British kept a coming.
02:24:10.000There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.
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02:24:20.000We looked down a river and we see the British come And there must have been a hundred of them beatin' on the drum They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring We stood beside our cotton bales and didn't say a thing We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin' There wasn't as many as there was a while ago We fired once more and they began to runnin' On down to Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico Alright, we're back.
02:24:43.000It's the Alex Jones Show, and I want to remind folks that Alex is going to be screening his latest picture, The 9-11 Chronicles Part 1, Truth Rising, over at the Alamo Draft House, off South Lamar, I believe.
02:24:56.000The screenings will be Saturday, May 17th at 4 p.m.
02:25:03.000And remember, this film won't be released until mid-June, early July, so if you want to get a sneak peek, the only way is the Alamo Draft House.
02:25:10.000I also want to let people know that I interviewed Tommy Chong in the first hour, just an explosive interview about the drug war and 9-11, and you can listen to that on the refeed over at Infowars.com after the fourth hour.
02:25:24.000And, uh, Wayne, I brought up the Black Ops program, Able Danger, how, you know, they were working with CENTCOM, they identified four of the hijackers prior to 9-11, they tried to go to the FBI over a dozen times, they were thwarted, of course the attacks on 9-11 happened, then Anthony Schaefer goes and talks to Philip Zelikow prior to the 9-11 commission report, and it doesn't make the report, does it?
02:25:49.000Well, I mean, we do know that there were all kinds of intelligence reports prior to 9-11, not just from our own intelligence agencies, but from a number of foreign intelligence agencies that all seem to have been ignored.
02:26:04.000We heard from probably intelligence agencies, law enforcement agencies in over 30 countries that tried to tell us something was up, including Russia.
02:26:15.000And these were all conveniently ignored.
02:26:18.000I think it's obvious that what these foreign agencies and our own agencies found out was there was this plan afoot to create what the neocons called a new Pearl Harbor so they could push their sordid agenda, which ever since 9-11, that's all we've seen.
02:26:38.000Constitution, we've seen Torture now adopted as a policy by the administration, renditioning, kidnapping, political assassinations, a whole host of things that's really the hallmark of a fascist nation.
02:26:58.000Well, one of the things that really ties it in for me is J. Michael Springman's testimony.
02:27:04.000He was one of the heads of the consulate in Jeddah back in the late 80s, early 90s, and when he would go through and deny these guys visas, they would get let in through national security purposes by his supervisors.
02:27:18.000Now, at first he thought this was just visa fraud, somebody in his agency taking kickbacks.
02:27:22.000When he got back to the States, he said he talked to people within the CIA who told him this was part of an ongoing program To funnel in Islamic militants into this country for their asset, Osama Bin Laden, and then you find out that a lot of these hijackers, or these supposed hijackers, were funneled in through the consulate at Jeddah!
02:27:41.000And this goes back, of course, to the time when the U.S.
02:27:45.000supported the Afghan mujahideen against the Soviets, and were giving them, you know, a stinger surface there, portable missile launchers, the Saudis were giving them the money, The Israelis and the Egyptians were giving them the weaponry.
02:28:11.000The others are Saudis, Saudi money, and, of course, Israeli art students and movers running all over not only the country in close proximity of these Saudi hijackers, but also seen with a camera, but also seen with a camera, Absolutely, and I'm actually covering that in my next film.
02:28:41.000And I'm actually covering that in my next film.
02:28:42.000You're talking about urban moving systems, the art ring, and then obviously their connections to Amdocs and Converse, which is really how they accumulate all this intelligence.
02:28:53.000And when I saw that Fox News piece, which was a four-part series, they really break it down how this spy ring was able to infiltrate the most upper echelons of government And there's an article out there that you may not be aware of.
02:29:06.000It's called, uh, Digital Moles Inside the White House.
02:29:09.000And it really goes through how these hijackers supposedly had every security code ever for the National Security Agency, the Drug Enforcement Agency, the FBI, the NSA, on the morning of 9-11.
02:29:19.000And that's where these threats to Air Force One and others came from.
02:29:22.000Wayne Mattson, I thank you so much for joining us this half an hour.
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02:33:37.000The fourth hour is going to be a replay of his famous interview with Willie Nelson, but you're going to want to go to InfoWars.com after that if you missed any of the first hour, because I interviewed Tommy Chong, not only on the American Drug War picture and AKA Tommy Chong, Hey, I'm doing great.
02:33:53.000Thanks for having me on the show today.
02:34:15.000Hey, well, it's really nice to be here.
02:34:17.000And today in Congress, you know, they're talking about this potential ban on direct-to-consumer drug advertising I know your listeners know very well that drug advertising is a massive marketing scam.
02:34:30.000And maybe, finally, for the first time in a long time, we might have a possibility of banning those ads, or at least putting a moratorium on them for the first three years.
02:34:53.000Now, many people may not know that drug advertising was illegal in the United States until about 1997 or 98 when it really went into effect.
02:35:03.000And since then, drug companies have massively escalated their drug advertising over $5 billion a year just last year.
02:35:12.000And, of course, drug sales have skyrocketed, too.
02:35:14.000But what's happened is they're now pushing disease more than they're pushing medicine.
02:35:19.000They want to convince everybody that they're sick.
02:35:21.000And that's how they sell more drugs, and it's just become a giant con.
02:35:27.000And then you look at the side effects on this, and it's like, ah, you know, may cause anal leakage or heart attacks, you know, and you're just like, what?
02:36:01.000If you're a big, greedy, evil, corporate drug company, you bury the test results that you don't want the FDA to see.
02:36:08.000So, essentially, the so-called scientific evidence behind this industry is nothing but fraud.
02:36:15.000They just... They basically engineer the tests that they want, They forward the results to the FDA that they want the FDA to see, and then the FDA says, yeah, this is safe and effective.
02:36:44.000In the last major drug decision about anti-inflammatory drugs, for example, The FDA expert panel that voted to keep it on the market had, I think it was two-thirds of that panel had ties to the drug industry.
02:36:58.000Either they were on the payroll of the drug companies, or they had investments in drug companies.
02:37:03.000And the FDA, by the way, doesn't think that they have any obligation to disclose this corruption to the American public.
02:37:12.000It's just another example how the lobbyists really do control our government, because, again, you know, you're a congressman, you're a senator, you make something like $80,000, maybe $120,000 a year, you work for, say, Pfizer, and, you know, they're pumping in a couple million dollar paycheck a year.
02:37:31.000Big Pharma is the second wealthiest group of corporations in the world, and number one, probably, is Big Oil.
02:37:39.000And of course the defense contractors aren't far behind, but you know drug companies make billions of dollars.
02:37:44.000It's really a trillion dollar industry if you add it all up globally.
02:37:47.000That's a lot of money floating around there, and you can bet that money finds its way into the pockets of the lawmakers.
02:37:54.000Part of the problem too, and this is why the Alex Jones Show is so important, because the mainstream media is on the take as well.
02:38:01.000So you don't get honest reporting about drugs, about how dangerous they are, or about the natural health options that people really should have access to, but they've been denied access to.
02:38:12.000That's the crime that's going on here.
02:38:14.000Absolutely, they're able to purchase as much time as they want for advertising.
02:38:18.000And then, you know, I actually saw Michael Moore on Wolf Blitzer discussing this after the release of Sicko.
02:38:24.000Like, he's like, well, you know, Dr. Sanjay Gupta isn't going to go against your sponsors, is he, Wolf?
02:38:29.000I mean, that's a multi-million dollar industry, your sponsors.
02:38:33.000I mean, you can't have a TV show without sponsor money, can you, Wolf?
02:38:38.000And if you remember, remember the dot-com boom and then crash?
02:38:43.000The media suffered in a very desperate way for revenues after the dot-com crash, because it was the technology companies that were propping them up.
02:38:51.000Well, guess who swept in and filled the empty space?
02:38:56.000And it was from 2001 to today where you really saw the ramp up in drug company advertising.
02:39:02.000So the media has become, essentially, the lackeys of big pharma, and that's why you see so many articles out there about, oh, look, this new miracle drug.
02:39:12.000And, gee, this could reduce risk of cancer by 50% when, if you look at the studies, it's really maybe one woman out of 200 might be saved by it, not 50% reduction, something far less.
02:39:26.000Well, I see, you know, the elite laughing at us, because not only are they zombifying the masses with things like Ritalin and Prozac, but we're actually paying for it.
02:40:57.000Well, it turns out that even when these drugs work as they're supposed to work, let's say, lowering a cholesterol number in a woman who's 50 years old, well, if you take a hard look at the science, it turns out that changing that number has zero benefits to that person.
02:41:13.000She has no lower risk of heart attack or stroke whatsoever.
02:41:16.000Her risk of dying, in fact, goes up from taking the drug.
02:42:18.000If we get enough pressure on these lawmakers and expose this story, shine some light on it, we might be able to stop this drug advertising from continuing.
02:42:27.000Well, the TV is obviously the number one brainwashing tool in America, so it was vital for these people to get on the television.
02:42:34.000And really, in the last five years, I've seen such an expansion.
02:42:38.000of the names of these drugs, the quantity of these drugs, the quote-unquote benefits of these drugs, but you rarely see, especially in the mainstream media, any criticism of these drugs, any criticisms of the vaccinations, and then when Michael Moore puts out Sicko, which I don't agree with all of, by the way, I don't need a socialist medicine system, but it is a pretty good flick, and it does shine to light some of these issues.
02:43:05.000It was nowhere near as successful as, say, a Fahrenheit 9-11 Or even a bowling for Columbine, and it didn't have quite that push.
02:43:13.000It really shows you how the drug companies in this country seem to be on top.
02:43:17.000Well, you've got to realize how much of our national economy is tied up with disease.
02:43:22.000The cancer industry, and it is a for-profit industry, employs well over 100,000 people.
02:43:29.000Now, if we taught Americans the truth about how they can cure cancer, or how they can prevent, you know, four out of five cancers can be prevented with vitamin D alone, and you can get that for free from sunlight, and if we taught Americans this thing, the cancer industry would collapse.
02:43:46.000Those people would be out of jobs because they depend on ongoing sickness and disease in order to take home a salary and to seem important for their egos, for their profits, for their power over people.
02:44:00.000And that's why the cancer industry, in my opinion, has no interest whatsoever in curing cancer.
02:44:05.000It only wants to maintain this disease and keep people trapped in a system of conventional cancer treatment.
02:44:11.000And that all ties back into IG Farben, who went around this country and offered funding to those who would go to the approach of radiation and chemotherapy and all that good stuff.
02:44:22.000And most people took that funding and they changed their way of thinking on cancer.
02:44:26.000A World Without Cancer by G. Edward Griffin is really a great overlook of that whole situation.
02:44:32.000That's a great book and Ed has done some fantastic work.
02:44:35.000He's one of the truth tellers out there who really has valuable information, but again, You know, CNN will never have him on.
02:44:58.000But they don't want that information to be put out there.
02:45:00.000Yeah, they'd rather hook you for the rest of your life on taking insulin and basically fear-mongering you.
02:45:06.000And you know, you mentioned G. Edward Griffin and how great his research is.
02:45:10.000For all you guys out there that are PrisonPlanet.TV subscribers, Alex had him in studio last week.
02:45:15.000I've met him on several occasions, had dinner with him.
02:45:17.000And you can check that interview out on PrisonPlanet.TV, just another one of the great things that we offer here at the InfoWars team.
02:45:25.000But yeah, G. Edward Griffin, you know, he talks about B-17 and that vitamin and it being suppressed.
02:45:30.000How it has all these benefits against cancer, do you think that's ever going to reach the masses?
02:45:35.000No, I mean the FDA maintains a deliberate campaign of censorship and they want to censor scientific knowledge as well.
02:45:44.000I gave the example on my website about cherries.
02:45:46.000You know, these cherry growers were linking to scientific studies showing that cherries could reduce arthritis inflammation very dramatically.
02:45:54.000The FDA threatened them, threatened to put them out of business if they didn't remove the links to the scientific studies.
02:46:00.000So we now have a government agency that is enforcing ignorance or scientific illiteracy.
02:47:01.000We've got a whole generation at risk right now.
02:47:04.000You know, the next generation are American children right now.
02:47:07.000They are being attacked by what I call chemical weapons of mass neural destruction, and those are of course the Ritalin drugs and the ADHD drugs.
02:47:17.000Why are our children being drugged with amphetamines?
02:47:21.000Alright, it used to be called Speed when it was sold on the street.
02:47:24.000Now it's being given to children who sit inside schools that have signs on the outside that say this is a drug-free zone?
02:47:31.000There's more drugs in the school than there... There's more drugs in the nurse's office and in the school's prescription style than there is any marijuana or possibly cocaine or ecstasy or any of that.
02:47:50.000They don't need mind-altering chemicals, right?
02:47:53.000What they need is probably better education, better parenting, more time with their parents.
02:47:58.000They need to be taught in a holistic way, in a caring way, not to be drugged and told, sit down, shut up, do your lessons, pay your taxes when you get old.
02:48:09.000We need to show them something different.
02:48:11.000How to be an American that has freedom, that has choices, that's educated and knows their options and knows how to take care of themselves.
02:48:17.000That's what a true American is supposed to be.
02:48:20.000Well, I liken it to the combo pack of both Brave New World and 1984.
02:48:24.0001984 really shows the surveillance society, which is definitely coming into play.
02:48:29.000I did a report today about how IBM is now working with Lockheed Martin for the next level of biometric identification, including palm prints, facial recognition, all that good stuff.
02:48:40.000But on the Brave New World end, It's to feed us crap, you know, basically poison, and then to give us all these drugs that are mind-altering and make us more passive, make us more mindless, make us more inactive, really.
02:48:56.000Isn't it interesting how all these pharmaceuticals, at the same time that they're making money for these drug companies, they also tend to sap the cognitive function of the population so that people can't really think for themselves anymore.
02:49:10.000It means that they're not able to challenge the status quo, not able to rock the boat.
02:49:26.000I'm with you there, and you know, it also ties into me, the fluoride in the water.
02:49:31.000I mean, people need to get hip to the fact the first time fluoride was added to water, it was the Nazi concentration camps to make the populations there more docile.
02:49:42.000Now, you can't go anywhere without fluoride being added to the water, and they want to increase the amounts.
02:49:48.000Yes, it's just one more chemical that does have that effect, and they know if they can keep the population docile, you know?
02:49:55.000Don't question anything, pay your taxes, do your work, buy your consumer goods, keep giving yourself cancer and make sure your children have diabetes too, then all the corporations can make money, the media can stay in control, the government can stay in control.
02:50:08.000Nobody will have the wherewithal to stand up and say, wait a minute, maybe we deserve something better.
02:50:14.000Maybe we should make a few changes around here and stop poisoning each other.
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02:53:39.000All right, folks, it's the Alex it's the Alex Jones Show.
02:54:06.000We are back, and I want to remind everybody, retransmission begins in one hour!
02:54:11.000Over at Infowars.com, you can catch my interview with Tommy Chong, Alex Jones, of course, Pop Sings, Kevin Booth, and the creators of A.K.A.
02:54:56.000You had a lot of great guests on, Tommy Chong and Jack McLam and great show.
02:55:02.000Anyway, I wanted to make a couple of points.
02:55:04.000Number one, since we're talking about pharmaceutical industry, I was in that industry for a while.
02:55:10.000Went from there to medical equipment, but getting to the information on... I sold anti-neoplastic drugs for cancer.
02:55:22.000And what doctors can do as far as what the FDA... The FDA makes indications or approves indications for drugs and especially for cancer drugs.
02:55:32.000And the cancer doctors really have a lot more latitude than the other physicians in what they can do.
02:55:36.000But they can use any of the approved cancer drugs on anything that they want to.
02:55:42.000They can try anything they want to try.
02:55:44.000However, a pharmaceutical representative cannot Go in and initiate that conversation.
02:55:50.000It has to be brought up by the physician.
02:55:54.000Now, we would have these clandestine meetings where we would go in because once you have the population already for a specific drug, you've got to create a new indication for it and try to get it approved by the FDA.
02:56:06.000But even though you can't get it approved or it's not approved, you try to engage the physician in discussing it, using it off-label or off-indication.
02:56:15.000So the pharmaceutical companies encourage their people to do that.
02:56:19.000However, if one doctor wants to, all they have to do is call 1-800-CALL-SBA and report them, and it's a $10,000 fine to the pharmaceutical rep.
02:56:30.000Now, I left that industry because I told them that I was not going to go in and promote it that way, and that I could no longer do it because I didn't want to get that fine.
02:56:41.000But they do push Pharmaceutical Reps to do things that they are not supposed to do.
02:56:48.000Of course they do, and then it's only a slap on the wrist when they actually do get caught.
02:56:52.000$10,000 fine, that's almost nothing to these pharmaceutical companies.
02:57:17.000And now that it's against the law and it's $10,000 out of my pocket, well, they don't want you around if you don't want to follow, you know, their set protocol for getting new indications for a product.
02:57:50.000Yes, I appreciate the concerns of Tommy Chong and Randy Weaver.
02:57:56.000We don't want to make the same mistake as the legalists.
02:57:59.000And to be honest with you, I don't like the word Christian and I don't like the word expression born again because they are so cheaply used that most people who use it don't even understand what it really means.
02:58:10.000We want to be clear that the abuse of the object is not to be confused with the object of abuse.
02:58:15.000It's, yes, religion, which literally means to bind back together.
02:58:19.000All right, Mark, I've got to stop you.
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03:02:10.000Well, we have this new album that's out, it's called A Moment of Forever, and it's a song that Chris wrote, and it's probably the greatest love song I've ever heard.
03:02:17.000And then we've got a couple of videos coming out of the album, The Grave Diggers one, and then we did another video that's coming out in a couple of months.
03:02:30.000We did it down at my ranch there in Texas out there.
03:02:35.000There's a video with me and Jessica Simpson and Owen Wilson and Woody Harrelson and all the Wilson boys and Ray Price and Johnny Bush and we just had a big crowd down there in town and we had a lawnmower race.
03:03:06.000What are some of the sites people can visit to see your latest info?
03:03:11.000Well, there's williamnelson.com, and my daughter does a column every day to tell everybody what we're into out here.
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03:03:27.000I did it originally to try to organize all the peace organizations in the world.
03:03:32.000And I did a pretty good job of doing that, I think, because there's a whole lot of networking going on there about people talking about peace.
03:03:41.000And then I wrote this song with my daughter, Amy, called Peaceful Solution.
03:03:47.000And I put the song on the website and told people they could record it, rewrite it, or sing it, or put their band behind it.
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03:08:21.000Why you've always stood up for the little guy, the farmers, and people in Africa, and just so many others?
03:08:28.000Why did you go in that direction in your life?
03:08:32.000Well, you know, I don't really know, except the fact that I grew up in a town in Abbott, Texas, which is a little small community farm town.
03:08:44.000There were three or four churches there, four churches.
03:08:47.000So, in one way or another, you went to church every day and every night of your life.
03:08:52.000And I learned, if I learned anything, I learned that all those places, you know, sometimes the Baptists wouldn't talk to the Methodists or the Church of Christ wouldn't talk to the Catholics.
03:09:05.000But they were all trying to do the same thing, and they were just divisions, even in that small town.
03:09:13.000But the one thing that I did learn out of it was the Golden Rule.
03:09:16.000You do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
03:09:19.000And that, in amazing grace, I pulled out of Habit, Texas, and I think those two things alone have been really good for me.
03:10:04.000Yeah, I was with KHBR in Hillsboro and we had our own radio show there every Saturday and then after that I went to the Air Force and then went down to Pleasanton, Texas and went to work with K.O.B.
03:10:19.000Pleasanton down there and then I worked several other radio stations and at the same time playing bars around trying to make it.
03:10:55.000I mean, you've been speaking out against it from the very start, and if you did that at the beginning, the media, the corporate media tried to punish people.
03:11:02.000They punished the Dixie Chicks, but they kind of shied away from attacking you too much.
03:11:06.000They tried to make an example out of them.
03:11:08.000But I remember hearing you on the radio just saying, hey, you know, I don't care, you know, what they do.
03:12:02.000And I mean, I make the point that they backed off from you because I don't think that they could chew up Willie Nelson.
03:12:09.000I think they tried to pick on the Dixie Chicks, but it seemed that that backfired on them.
03:12:13.000Well, it did, and it took a while, and the chicks had to go through some uncomfortable times, but, you know, they're tough, and they came out on the other side of it really looking great, and they're more popular now than they were then, and a lot of it's because of that.
03:12:29.000So, you know, I don't know whether they'd rather have done it that way or not, but at least they said what they thought, and they stuck with it, and I think their last record was, you know, we're not ready to make nice yet.
03:12:41.000Not ready to play nice, not ready to go along with this.
03:12:43.000I'm mad as hell, and I'm just going to continue doing the right thing.
03:12:47.000And that's why they're becoming even bigger icons.
03:12:53.000I mean, you were there from day one saying it was bad.
03:12:55.000Now, 80% of Americans are saying it's a bad idea.
03:13:00.000We know we were lied to about the WMDs.
03:13:02.000We know with the White House and Downing Street memo that Bush tried to manufacture getting some of our aircraft shot down with Blair to start the war.
03:13:10.000Where's Willie Nelson now, five years into this war, and thousands and thousands of dead Americans, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis?
03:13:23.000I mean, you've been vindicated yet again.
03:14:09.000The humanity, the humans, the children, the people that die, that have their countries bombed out, the Americans that are taxed to pay for it all, and the no-bid contracts.
03:14:18.000Humanity loses, but these kingpins, they win.
03:14:21.000Yeah, and they've been winning ever since You know, in the old testament it talked about wars, there'd always be wars and rumors of wars, but in the new one it said, let's talk about peace, and then there was, there's going to be some peace, and I believe that there's, eventually, there's going to be peace on earth, and it's those other bastards that are getting in the way of it, so what do we do about them, Ali?
03:14:49.000I do interviews every day on other people's talk shows, even confrontational interviews, adversarial interviews, and they'll take 10, 20 calls.
03:14:57.000And of 20 calls, 19 people agree with me while the neocon or right-wing host is attacking me, because I come to it from a libertarian perspective, and it just neutralizes them.
03:15:08.000Now, five, six years ago, that wasn't happening.
03:15:45.000You stop that war, you stop other wars that were in and around the country, and you go around the country being a peacemaker and stopping wars.
03:15:53.000I thought that's what you're supposed to do.
03:15:56.000Since when does America invade all these countries that have nothing to do with 9-11?
03:17:35.000find out that mainstream news reported but it never got any attention that the supposed hijackers were given national security clearance and were trained at U.S. bases and the dean of the defense language school, Colonel Butler, goes public and says, we train these people, the government's involved, and they start court-martialing him until he agreed to shut up.
03:18:05.000I think, you know, the fact that there are a few elite that are running everything, calling the shots, starting the wars, financing them all.
03:19:05.000Willie Nelson, you're blowing me away here.
03:19:08.000When we get back, I want to talk about solutions, your ideas, because the people are awake to a certain extent.
03:19:14.000I just don't think that they have the specifics of what to do.
03:19:16.000I want to tell them about some of your organizations and groups, and I agree with taking Our everyday life in our own hands like you've done with the biodiesel, that's a separate thing from what they're doing with the corn and other things and I want to be sure and separate that out and explain that to people and what you've tried to do and all the money you've put into trying to get us into renewable resources and things that are actually, you know, will allow us to not continue to destroy the earth.
03:19:59.000I mean, you talk about how we do have this elite running things, and the evidence shows that, and the documents have been declassified.
03:20:05.000What are your ideas to get the people to mobilize to do something about it?
03:20:12.000The song that I wrote called Peaceful Solution, now all those people that recorded it believe, and so do I, that there is a peaceful solution.
03:20:24.000And it's called a peace revolution, and we just take back America.
03:20:29.000And we do it, vote it back, we do it, we make sure that the crooked ballot boxes are thrown away, we get a paper trail and everything, and make sure that Good honest people can get back in control and that's the only way we're going to do it is to just do it.
03:20:49.000Just in the news today, we're seeing that they've recruited 26,000 preachers the White House has through FEMA to tell their flocks to stand down, to turn in their guns, to follow orders, to do what the President says in the Presidential Decision Directive 51.
03:21:05.000It's no longer involved in continuity of government in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
03:21:10.000They have openly funded for insurrection and rebellion by the American people.
03:21:15.000The whole police state apparatus they built up after 9-11, and I want to get your take on this, Willie, because I know you're aware of it, is now being used against the people.
03:21:24.000They're not even talking about the boogeyman of Al-Qaeda anymore.
03:21:29.000No, and I do believe that it's a long time until Election Day and some sort of national crisis could put off the elections.
03:21:38.000and we could have George in there 10 years longer.
03:22:02.000If that did happen, a nuke went off, a biological weapon was released, or terrorists supposedly blew up a bunch of other buildings.
03:22:09.000What do you think the response of the population should be if they announce we're under this new emergency?
03:22:14.000It could be an economic emergency, and Bush is going to have to stay on to save us.
03:22:18.000Well, I I would hope that we'd be smarter than that, and I would hope that we'd say, no, we're throwing all you guys out and we're starting over.
03:22:30.000You can stop the elections if you want to, but you can't stop the people.
03:22:36.000Well, Ron Paul has gotten more donations from Well, again, the troops are under order, and if they don't do what they, you know, the orders are, then they get shot.
03:22:50.000There's a few of them in there that are there because they think it's the right thing to do.
03:22:54.000and the troops are under order in the federal law faith you know the orders are that they get shot so uh...
03:23:00.000that the troops have no choice there's a few of them in there that are there because they think it's the right thing to do there if you there because they just like to fight uh...
03:23:10.000but there's a lot of them are like you say that would rather be home with their families and the slave are good men and women for something that really matters for really something that is the defense of our country If we need some people down here on the borders, let's take 150,000 people out of Iraq and put them on the borders of Canada and Mexico.
03:23:45.000Well, yeah, and they're fighting over there because you remember the old joke about the guy that dropped a quarter and he was looking around and the guy said, where did you lose it?
03:25:45.000This can't happen because everyone is an individual.
03:25:48.000We all have our free will, and God gave us the freedom to use it.
03:25:54.000So no matter where we are, what we're doing, if we know it's wrong, we should not do it.
03:26:00.000Well, for anybody that wants the report, it was a Filipino-American General, two-star General Tugumu, was hired to run the report on 30-plus camps in Iraq, and that was the findings for anybody that wants to go check that.
03:26:13.000Those are amazing claims, but they are true.
03:26:19.000Speaking of an individual like George Bush, and these elitists that are puppeteering him, How do you think they sleep at night, Willie?
03:26:27.000Because somebody like you or myself, you know, we have a conscience, and I love my conscience.
03:26:33.000And I wonder about psychopaths sometimes, how they just enjoy evil.
03:26:38.000Well, you know, I don't know where you grew up, but I grew up with a lot of people who really are... You have to doubt if they have a conscience.
03:26:49.000And I know they're all over the world, so I'm not surprised that people, you know, can torture because I've seen it happen all my life and you know smaller degrees but there are just some people who are that way they like to make the other person uncomfortable in whatever way they can it's a power trip isn't it yeah I think it is it's not money it's about power well where I'm from my dad is from uh two counties over to the east
03:27:18.000That's where our family's been since 1829 with Spanish land grants.
03:27:22.000And then my mom's family were German immigrants in the 1840s to right around Austin and surrounding areas.
03:27:29.000So I am really proud to be a Texan because you're a Texan, Willie.
03:28:27.000Oh, I like Ron Paul, but I think he's got the same troubles that Dennis had, first of all.
03:28:32.000You know, there's not that much support behind him.
03:28:35.000He is growing a little bit, but I noticed his numbers had come up in, where was it, Maine here in the last day or so that he got quite a good... You know, I like what he says.
03:28:46.000I still think when we get down to it, it's going to be McCain and either Hillary or Obama.
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03:33:06.000We have eight servers, and this has not happened in about a year.
03:33:11.000Some of the sites you can't even hardly get to right now.
03:33:13.000I guess the word is spread on the internet that Willie Nelson is, and we can take millions of visitors, so people are going crazy right now on the websites.
03:33:22.000Willie, you have made quite a splash here.
03:33:33.000Getting into the war, and then the solution, trying to fix this politically, magically, Ron Paul's been getting half the votes the polls show he should get.
03:33:43.000Obama was getting 15 more points or more than Hillary in New Hampshire.
03:33:46.000She magically won by almost four points.
03:34:09.000You've got to get rid of the voting machines because they're crooked or they can be hacked and we can't afford to have another election stolen.
03:34:19.000Well, in the past, when you were growing up as a young man, and then even older, I mean, the voting was, they put the ballot box out in the middle of the room, they all got counted, that precinct then announced it, everybody got to watch the counting, and you still had a few problems.
03:35:09.000I mean, how do you... The establishment knew we weren't going to like what they were doing, and so now they've moved in to block us with these machines.
03:35:17.000Well, since I know zero about machines, you know, it wouldn't be that hard for them to fool me.
03:35:23.000You know, and it's been... It's done with pencil and paper.
03:35:26.000I get fooled with that, too, but it's a little harder.
03:35:31.000But you didn't get fooled on the war from day one, and you didn't get fooled on 9-11, Willie?
03:36:52.000I think we have some Questions that need to be answered from those folks.
03:36:56.000You know, that's a really good point you make.
03:37:00.000Again, Newsweek reported a week after 9-11 that in the six months before, they had massed carrier task forces, 44,000 US troops, 18,000 British troops in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan surrounding, and that Bush on September 10th signed the order in the next week to attack Afghanistan.
03:37:17.000Man, what timing, Willie, that he signed the attack order the day before!
03:37:30.000I mean, what does it take for us to realize that, you know, we're having the wool pulled over our eyes one more time?
03:37:39.000You know, there's a war against the American people, and that's the drug war.
03:37:43.000Back when drugs were sold on store shelves, we had a lot less drug use in this country.
03:37:49.000They criminalize it, it corrupts the police, and it puts a lot of money in drugs, and then the kids get involved in it, and of course they gotta go after marijuana, because 70 plus percent of people don't use other drugs.
03:38:01.000They use the medicine hemp, and you've been a big advocate, you know, exposing how DuPont and Dow Chemical shut that down, even the cannabis varieties that don't even have HTC in them.
03:38:16.000When did you first begin to fight the drug war and to expose what was happening with the suppression of hemp?
03:38:22.000Well, first of all, I knew that there should be, that it's the greatest killer on the planet is stress and the best medicine is cannabis.
03:39:08.000It stopped the farmer from growing And making ethanol, because he was making ethanol in the same piece of equipment that he made his whiskey in, which was a still.
03:39:19.000So when they brought in Prohibition and stopped the whiskey, they also stopped the making of ethanol, and they put the farmers out of business who were making their own fuel.
03:39:29.000And also Standard Oil again won the battle.
03:39:34.000Yeah, my family's from in between Fairfield and Buffalo, and we've still got over 1,000 acres out there.
03:39:45.000Farming's tough, so over the years they would sell land off the original Spanish land grant just to be able to pay the taxes.
03:39:50.000But the big drought in the 50s almost made them go under.
03:39:53.000But there are rotting stills back there down on some of the swamp land.
03:40:01.000But there's old metal remnants of stills.
03:40:04.000And the story I got was that they made them destroy them.
03:40:07.000And went after people, and they weren't even, most of the time, making moonshine with them, but you're right, that was an economic warfare against the farmers, because I know that happened to my family, the Joneses.
03:40:19.000Well, it definitely happened to a lot of people, and it put the ethanol people out of business the first time, and then the second time around they put them out of business, and now they're trying to do it again, and as oil goes up and up and up and up, They're also looking at us over here who are into the alternative energies, and I've heard from the oil companies that, hey, you know, it's all right.
03:40:42.000You guys go ahead and do what you're going to do for the next 36 months or so, and then we're going to come in and take it over.
03:40:48.000And that would all be well and good, except that when that happens, I know it's not going to be good for the local producer and the local consumer.
03:40:56.000A lot of things will be imported, palm oil for all over the world, and that's not good until we can get it back to where your family and my family can grow their own ethanol and their own biodiesel, then our economy is going to stay bad.
03:41:14.000We have to bring it back to sustainable agriculture locally, and it's got to start locally.
03:41:19.000Well, going back to biodiesel, there's a big difference between biodiesel and some of the things they're making out of corn because you're able to make the biodiesel you create out of all sorts of things Can you explain the difference and then talk about the program you've tried to launch nationally?
03:41:38.000Well, the first diesel engine, Rudolph Diesel designed his first engine to run on peanut oil.
03:41:46.000So for all these years that we've been using You know, oil and diesel, and we could have been using peanut oil, we could have been using all kinds of vegetable oils, but we didn't have to become that dependent.
03:42:01.000So it was, again, it was a planned agenda to keep us away from the biodiesel because they wanted to sell us oil.
03:42:11.000At the same time, the government was using biodiesel and ethanol and its equipment because it was Cheaper to produce, and the equipment ran better on it.
03:42:22.000But they didn't give it to the private sector because they wanted us to keep using oil.
03:42:30.000Well, you talk about the Monopoly game they played to do this.
03:42:33.000Is that where... I mean, is that the place you started to learn about the Monopoly men and the larger global forces?
03:42:40.000Or when did you discover what, for lack of a better term, we'd call the New World Order or the Kingpins?
03:42:50.000When the cannabis thing and the marijuana was made illegal back in those days, I traced it back to the petrochemicals again.
03:42:58.000Everything that was made from Cannabis now is made from petrochemicals, so it's just the oil companies again coming in and taking over and making marijuana illegal and telling people it's crazy and it'll kill you and all that stuff.
03:43:16.000So far, I don't know of anybody that's died from marijuana unless a bale fell on them or something.
03:43:22.000My friend Kevin Booth just produced a film I consulted on called American Drug War that's going to be airing on Showtime coming up in March, I guess next month.
03:43:32.000And he spent four years making it, and he's got the numbers from year to year it changes, but about 200,000 to 300,000 it changes each year die from pharmacological legal drugs.
03:43:44.000And about 10,000 die a year from all the really hard, you know, quote, bad illegal drugs, which I agree are bad, heroin, cocaine, things like that.
03:43:52.000And then they can't even find any deaths from marijuana and George Washington grew it on his land and smoked it for stomach aches.
03:43:59.000So why is marijuana illegal and why do they fill the prisons with hundreds of thousands of people a year who are caught with it?
03:44:07.000Well, it's obvious again because everything that's made from petrochemicals one time was made from cannabis.
03:45:00.000I mean, you can grow it anywhere, and it's just an incredible product for industry, but I guess it's not centralized like a giant chemical plant, so they just can't let the farmers have that, can they?
03:45:15.000It's just too hard for them to compete against something that you can just throw out some seeds and that you've got food, fuel, material, everything you need in one seed.
03:45:28.000And that's just too much for them to compete with.
03:48:50.000The bewildered nerds still believing Everything we've been told from our birth Hell, they won't lie to me Not on my own damn TV But how much is a liar's word worth What?
03:49:52.000Willie, I mean, the White House, the Congress has been caught hundreds of times, the documents have come out, buying billions of dollars of fake newscasts and buying reporters.
03:50:02.000And that's what I always ask my listeners when I'm on other talk shows and on television.
03:50:06.000I say, we've been lied to thousands of times we know of, hundreds of times by the Bush administration.
03:50:19.000And, you know, it doesn't, after all the other things that they've done, lying is certainly not going to stop them.
03:50:27.000It's all it takes to cover up what they're doing is a little white lie.
03:50:31.000Well, they'll, you know, they'll paint the world with a little white lies.
03:50:36.000And I wouldn't call, yeah, white lies are bad enough, but these are big black lies to... These are huge black ones, yeah.
03:50:43.000Hi, this is Dave from Ready Reserve Foods.
03:50:46.000I have been waiting patiently for the government and mainstream media to inform you of what is turning out to be the biggest problem facing the world in the last 50 years.
03:50:53.000For the last three years, the Earth has consumed more food than it has been able to produce, and it has now finally caught up with this.
03:50:59.000In the U.S., commodities such as flour and rice are already being rationed, and the next rice crop won't be available for another four to five months.
03:51:05.000It's fall in the Southern Hemisphere, and many countries are short the food necessary to make it through the winter and have stopped exporting certain commodities altogether.
03:51:45.000There is absolutely no doubt about that.
03:51:50.000In about six minutes the show is going to end, John, and I want you to go out in the last 30-45 seconds with Willie from that high women's song Silver Stallion.
03:52:01.000You know, talking to a music legend like yourself, obviously Johnny Cash affected me a lot.
03:52:47.000He had already left Nashville when I went to Nashville, and then I got a letter from him.
03:52:52.000He got my address from Chris or somebody and said he wanted me to write him a song.
03:52:58.000I wrote him a song and he recorded it and the next time he came to town we got together and talked about it.
03:53:07.000We'd run into each other every now and then, but he had a show over in Switzerland that he and June went over and they did a Christmas show over in Switzerland and he asked me to come over there and be on that show.
03:54:56.000I guess the worst case scenario would be if we all had to go back to the way we grew up and grow our own food in our own gardens in the backyard or in our pot plants or whatever.
03:55:08.000In fact, all over Houston, New York and cities now, people are using vacant lots and rooftops to grow, starting to grow their own vegetables.
03:55:18.000And I think the way things are going, we all should be thinking about how can we sustain ourselves.
03:55:25.000If gasoline is too expensive, or if there is no more, or if the roads get cut off, there's the weather problems that we've had, and from all indications, those things are going to get worse.
03:55:38.000Are you familiar with the Mayan calendar, by the way?
03:55:41.000I am, and it's clear we're going to have to do a part two, if you'll do it, in the next six months or so.
03:57:06.000If you're in Tucson now, where are you playing next?
03:57:09.000We play Tucson, we play here the next couple of nights at a casino, and then we go into San Luis Obispo, California, Reno, Monterey, Santa Rosa, Los Angeles, Indio, Flagstaff, Farmington.
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