On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg is joined by G Edward Griffin, founder of Freedom Force International and author of How to get involved with the fight against the New World Order. G.E.G. has been fighting the establishment for decades, and has been a voice in the anti-New World Order movement since the early days of the McCarthyism era.
00:00:18.000Coming up, we'll be taking your phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.
00:00:24.000We'll even skip some of the breaks for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.
00:00:28.000We'll continue on with G. Edward Griffin during a few of the breaks.
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00:00:38.000G. Edward Griffin, we're going to give out his website, Freedom Force International, how to get involved, great guy.
00:00:42.000Been around for, well, since 1959, fighting the new world order, best-selling author.
00:00:49.000I mean, without getting too sidetracked into this, but I think it's important to have discussions about this sometime.
00:00:54.000It'll be the same guy who comes out with fake Amaro coins, who later comes out as a known FBI operative, hooked in with Sean Hannity.
00:01:03.000And then he'll come out and say there was a secret session of Congress.
00:01:06.000Or other groups will put out, oh, Nassera, the government's secretly good and everything's fine.
00:01:11.000Or Leo Wanta got trillions of dollars and he's good, but only trust him, everyone else secretly works for the Pope.
00:01:17.000And you can always tell these government things, they're designed for the lowest common denominator and to get any idiot camp followers to kind of go along with it.
00:01:27.000Instead of saying, we can work together, we're positive, you know, the average person's good, it's evil at the top, we can affect change, we need to stop the collectivist.
00:01:37.000You notice that these groups that are government operatives, they never are issue specific, they never get into how things work or about what the government's doing.
00:01:58.000And I'm very grateful that there is a voice such as yours, Alex, that is such a strong voice and heard by so many people that's preaching common sense on this.
00:02:07.000Because, you know, this has been going on for a long time.
00:02:09.000You mentioned I've been in this battle more or less since about 1959.
00:02:13.000And this was going on even then, believe it or not.
00:02:16.000But unfortunately, back in those days, there was no real strong voice against it that reached very many people, and people fell for it.
00:02:26.000All the patriots fell for it, which is, I think, one of the reasons that nothing really developed over the years in the way of a strong counterforce against this.
00:02:34.000So, they were divided against each other, they fell for all of these ploys, and so we see the result of it today, but thank God you're out there telling the truth today, and we're trying to do the same thing with Freedom Force International, so maybe this time around we'll have a little better shot at it.
00:02:51.000This is really a war for the brain, is it not?
00:03:07.000But yeah, there's always the threat of physical force and coercion.
00:03:11.000But really, the greatest strides that our opponents have made in capturing the American people and in other countries, as well as by capturing their brains.
00:03:21.000They capture their minds, their information flow.
00:03:27.000And this is how they control people today.
00:03:29.000And so we have to be alert to that and have strong leaders that can help us to, you know, weed through these rough paths and find out which are the stepping stones that are safe and which ones are dangerous.
00:03:47.000Now the establishment is trying to focus, though, in on organized groups and websites and authors and attacking networks and things like that.
00:03:57.000But overall, the loss of confidence in the state and in the organized system, the top-down hierarchical structure, is so massive and people are becoming more and more distrustful that I'm
00:04:10.000I'm intellectually pretty sure that the elite is in for some very rough times themselves, and of course they've foreseen that and tried to build up an oppressive grid to counter that, and they've written about how they foresaw it, but I think the wave of resistance is so big that they've got a crisis of conscience themselves, and even their own minions are saying, do I want to be part of this?
00:04:31.000Yeah, I think you're quite right, but they're committed.
00:04:34.000I don't think the guys at the top are going to have any option of turning around.
00:05:20.000I got behind, but I do want to take some time out for solutions.
00:05:23.000Do you think it's a good idea to talk some about the state's election and maybe all these phony green taxes and this whole green hype, you know, repackaging socialism?
00:05:33.000Yeah, I'd be glad to add my two cents to it.
00:05:36.000You've covered it so well, but yeah, I don't think it can be overstated.
00:08:16.000At the bottom of the hour, I promise, we're going directly to your calls.
00:08:18.000He'll be with us at least 20 minutes into overdrive today.
00:08:21.000We'll be going to 3.20 Central Standard Time today.
00:08:28.000Jebber Griffin, we were talking about the ways that globalists distract us, divert us, they try to destroy our unity.
00:08:34.000And I don't mean our unity as one organization.
00:08:37.000I don't want one group fighting the New World Order.
00:08:39.000I want lots of attack frigates out there going after them.
00:08:43.000But I mean, unity of purpose, our manifesto, what we believe in, you know, the liberty, you know, ideas like that.
00:08:50.000But then shifting gears back into, for the mainline people that are still tuned into the false paradigm, they keep saying Barack Obama Is about making us believe in each other again, bringing us back together.
00:09:02.000What they mean is, not bringing us back together, but bringing us back into being conned by the state, conned by the left-right paradigm, conned by the two parties one more time.
00:09:13.000Taking us for one more ride while they finish getting their police state control grid in.
00:09:17.000And let me be clear, I'm not even entertaining a debate here.
00:09:48.000And so occasionally they give you a new puppet to make you think that things have changed.
00:09:54.000I'm not trying to take hope away here.
00:09:56.000I want you to know there's hope in real resistance, in a real awakening, in local government, in you taking action, in you running for office, in you educating others, instead of wasting all our energies like all these young people are doing, Starry-eyed, just, I just love Hillary, I love McCain, I love Obama!
00:10:15.000You know, you see all these intelligent, great-looking college girls just out there dedicating themselves to Hillary or Barack Obama, or all these well-meaning business people for McCain, when they're all America-killers, they're all globalists.
00:10:33.000That's true, and the reason they're that way is because their opinions have been engineered by the media.
00:10:39.000And to a large extent by the educational system that some of those younger people are still in.
00:10:44.000When you look at the campaign rhetoric of these major candidates, they can talk for hours and not really say anything, but they are masters at using words that sound good.
00:10:55.000Like, well, Obama's famous word, change.
00:11:01.000But if you asked any of them, what would you change?
00:11:04.000There'd probably be dead silence because they don't know.
00:11:07.000They'd say, well, we'll change the name.
00:11:08.000We'll change the name from Bush to Obama or something.
00:11:13.000But they have no idea of political principles.
00:11:17.000They have never even thought about the proper role of government or what The Constitution says about what these candidates are allowed or specifically not allowed to do.
00:11:28.000They haven't a single thought in their entire brains about political concepts, but yet they're out there carrying these banners and chanting, as you said, and they're all starry-eyed over some kind of a word game, just change or compassion or Patriotism, or who knows what these words mean in the inner recesses of their minds, but they certainly don't mean anything in the realm of political principle.
00:11:58.000And until the American people start thinking about political principles once again, there is no hope.
00:12:03.000So, you're quite right when you say, why should we even entertain a debate or try to choose up sides between all three of these word masters?
00:12:12.000And it's not just them, it's the organizations that support them, when the real issues are never allowed to be even discussed in such a debate.
00:12:20.000And so, yes, our job has to be not to get entrapped by this so-called two-party system, when in reality it's not a two-party system.
00:12:33.000It's like having a traveling carnival, a troupe of trained monkeys dance in front of you while somebody sneaks up on you to stab you in the back.
00:12:44.000It's the same thing that the magician does, where he has his beautiful assistant bend over in front of the crowd while he stages the hat trick.
00:12:59.000Yeah, well, that was the theme of my presentation when I was there in Austin a few weeks ago, as you remember.
00:13:05.000We called it the Quigley Formula, and it was named after Professor Carol Quigley, who wrote the book Tragedy and Hope, who was sort of an unofficial or maybe an official historian for a secret society founded by Cecil Rhodes, and we got into all of that history.
00:13:22.000And the reason that history is interesting, and the reason it's important, is because without an understanding Of how the two-party systems came into being.
00:13:31.000If you don't know the history, if you don't know the fact that there is an organization that has a strategy for doing exactly what we're complaining about here, people would say, well, I guess it just happened.
00:13:45.000This came about as a result of a very well-thought-out plan.
00:13:48.000It's being implemented today by people who have names, who belong to an organization that has a name, has a headquarters in New York, and all of that.
00:13:56.000And so once you tell people about the facts behind what's happening and the names and the places and the dates, then all of a sudden it becomes real.
00:14:06.000Other than that, before they have all that information, they'll just look at you and say, what are you talking about?
00:14:29.000They are starving and so they give them real simple pap like change, change knowing that stacked up against the two establishment candidates that another establishment candidate can be slipped in on them.
00:14:42.000Talk a little bit about the Quigley formula because there are hundreds of published PhD level elite text used by globalist managers, and I know I've read scores of them, and they talk about how we're dumb animals, and they talk about how we'll never read how they're calling us dumb animals.
00:15:00.000And, I mean, is it frustrating to you?
00:15:02.000Because that's one of the things that drives me crazy, that some good old boy at the gym will waddle over and make fun of me saying I believe in imaginary groups when the heads of political science divisions of top universities write books about how they engineer the shadow government system and how we run nothing.
00:15:23.000It's very frustrating to know that we've spent the time to read all these books and watch these people on C-SPAN and then the public I mean, I hate the globalists, but at the same time, the public has been engineered to laugh at us for trying to save them.
00:15:41.000Well, yeah, and you have to not blame the public to a certain extent, because they're just the products of programming, very effective programming, although I still think that if anybody had any kind of an instinct for truth, They would somehow break through that.
00:16:22.000And I found that generally if you have the ability to present the facts without being interrupted, you know, give me 20 or 30 minutes.
00:16:30.000And if people are interested enough to sit and listen to a presentation for 20 or 30 minutes, I'll convince them.
00:16:37.000Not that I convince them, but the facts will convince them because they're irrefutable.
00:16:41.000So, that's our job, is to find those people, and that won't be many, probably 3% or less, who have the intellectual curiosity and the intellectual honesty to ask the question, where are your facts?
00:16:54.000And that's all we need, Alex, and you know that.
00:16:56.000We don't need that 51, that magic 51% of the population.
00:17:01.000The majority never determined anything.
00:17:03.000They're always led by the few, 3% or less, who can generate a majority by the strength of their leadership.
00:17:14.000And as you know, that's what Freedom Force is all about, is to move into the power centers of society, those groups and organizations that people belong to, that lead the political thinking of the nation.
00:17:27.000We have to become influential in those groups now, just the way our opponents have in the past.
00:17:32.000Well, now again, I'm trying to be subtle here, not that I'm delicate, or not that I'm even well-spoken.
00:17:37.000Maybe I haven't explained it right to some people.
00:17:47.000And it's in our Constitution, and the feds say we have no right to own guns.
00:17:51.000It's only an organized militia, but that didn't exist until 1907.
00:17:55.000So, we know it's our right to keep and bear arms, it's to defend against criminals and the government, and I've read the Federalist Papers and others on air, but then you've got what the modern militia movement is, and that's Feds setting up innocent good people
00:18:11.000And usually the militia leaders are feds, and it's a thing of paranoia, don't trust your neighbors, meet us behind the barn, and then the feds says let's build a bomb so they can send a bunch of innocent farmers to jail, and then asset forfeiture their farms, and then I get on air and I say watch out, we're up front, we're in suits and ties, we're well spoken, we're the good guys.
00:18:32.000But the Feds, when they run these operations, they've tried to always steer our movement into hiding, like it's secret agent stuff, and it's all, oh my God, everyone's watching you and wanting to get you.
00:18:42.000And I'm saying, no, no, no, this isn't a thing of paranoia.
00:19:07.000And I think the reason, as you've just stated, is because they are under the influence of Asia provocateurs who are sent in there to do that, just to mess it up so it won't possibly work.
00:19:17.000Oh, we've caught them hundreds of times in every case.
00:19:33.000Let's be aware of it and move around it.
00:19:36.000Well, I remember when I was just a mainline conservative, but fighting for property rights locally, I'd have a guy show up at an event and say, I want to work with you, let's kill cops.
00:19:46.000And I'd follow him outside, and a guy getting an unmarked cop car.
00:19:50.000You know, I mean, it's just, these people are criminals.
00:21:08.000It's because the globalists claim that their breeding makes them god men when they're really a bunch of inbred, mentally retarded individuals at the top.
00:21:18.000With these criminal bureaucracies that serve them, that's where their genius still lies.
00:21:23.000The truth is, from the common people also comes intelligence, and we don't want to be your slaves.
00:21:29.000We're not lesser men, and we're not going to go along with you.
00:21:31.000G. Edward Griffin will talk through the next segment, the next break, for Infowars.com internet stream listeners, but right now, You want to get into Carol Quigley and the Quigley Method because I didn't want to kind of give away your thunder when you were on before you gave your UT speech, but maybe now you should spend some time on that and then we'll start taking phone calls in about 10 minutes.
00:21:51.000Yeah, I'd like to do that, Alex, but may I finish where my brain was going with our last?
00:21:58.000We were talking about false leadership.
00:22:01.000And how effective that can be, especially if the victim is not even aware of the possibility that this tactic is being used.
00:22:10.000Every once in a while, after I've written something or said something about this, I'll get an email from some person that says, how do we know that you are not a false leader?
00:22:20.000And of course, that's a darn good question.
00:22:22.000I'm very happy to hear that, because now I know that people are beginning to look around and question.
00:22:27.000And the answer to that is very simple.
00:22:30.000You can tell whether a person is a false leader or not simply by looking at their record, where they've been, how long they've been doing it, and what they've actually done.
00:22:42.000So you see, if they have a record of dividing people, whether they have a record of diverting attention away from the real culprit, which is the government, not government, but people in government, I always want to emphasize that.
00:22:57.000We're opposed to corruption in government.
00:23:00.000And if you can see that leaders have been focused on the corruption in government and consistently have tried to unite people, they're probably on the right track.
00:23:09.000But if they've always left behind them a debris of broken organizations and anger and division, you've got a pretty good idea that you're dealing with a false leader.
00:23:21.000So what we're trying to do is build a dependable leadership core that people can rely on, especially people coming into the movement early.
00:23:31.000I mean, just recently, I should say, people who haven't had a chance to spend years and years studying this thing.
00:23:37.000They need someone they can rely on, someone with that record.
00:23:40.000And we're hoping that people will consider Freedom Force International to be that.
00:23:45.000So if you're trying to figure out who you can rely on, come to Freedom Force International.
00:23:54.000Well, I'll say, G. Edward Griffin, the enemy doesn't operate for 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40 plus years since 1959, as you have been doing.
00:24:51.000You know, having your head in the game a long time.
00:24:54.000You know, not just being aware of disinfo, being aware of also the fact that we can also get too into this where we're too focused and paranoid and then never just move forward.
00:25:05.000I think really having a good attitude, viewers out there, listeners out there, you know that you're good people, you know you're leaders, you know that you've done nothing wrong, you know that you're doing this for the right reasons, so you be leaders.
00:25:40.000Yes, let's continue discussing that during this segment.
00:25:44.000If you're listening to the Infowars.com audio streams, this discussion will continue in 10 seconds at Infowars.com.
00:25:50.000If not, we'll be back in three minutes to continue fleshing out the Quigley formula.
00:25:54.000And then your phone calls with G. Edward Griffin.
00:25:56.000We got him on a bit late today, so we'll be going into overdrive today, 20 minutes after the main transmission ends with G. Edward Griffin.
00:26:03.000So we have an hour left, or about 50 minutes before us.
00:26:07.000Okay, G. Edward Griffin, continue with the Quigley formula.
00:26:12.000Yeah, well, I think it's important to start this off to know who Quigley is.
00:26:16.000We're talking about Professor Carol Quigley, who was a professor at Georgetown University and was one of the teachers of Bill Clinton when he was a student there.
00:26:28.000And, um, 27 years later, when Clinton was nominated for the presidency at the Democratic Convention, in his acceptance speech, he gave an honorable mention to Professor Quigley.
00:26:41.000And then, even after Clinton was elected president, in at least two public appearances of which I'm aware, he again gave honorable mention to this professor at Georgetown University.
00:26:52.000So, he obviously felt he was a pretty important person.
00:26:56.000And there were two messages there, because those who did not understand who Quigley was thought that, oh, well, that was nice.
00:27:03.000He was just giving honorable mention to some kindly old professor who had a profound impact on his political thinking, and isn't that nice?
00:27:12.000But those who knew who Quigley was and what he represented understood there was a hidden message there.
00:27:18.000Quigley was the official historian of a secret society.
00:27:31.000And Professor Quigley was the historian of it.
00:27:35.000And the secret society was formed by Cecil Rhodes at the turn of the last century in England.
00:27:41.000And Cecil Rhodes devoted the bulk of his entire vast fortune that he made so much money in South Africa because he personally owned the diamond mines and most of the gold resources of that country.
00:27:56.000One of the wealthiest men in the world.
00:27:59.000People know that generally, but what they don't know is that he left the bulk of his inheritance, not to his estate, not to his family, but to create a secret society.
00:28:09.000We know about this because there was a book written by the executor of his estate.
00:28:15.000The executor's name was William Stead, and he wrote about the... in fact, the title of the book was The Last Will and Testament of Cecil Roach.
00:28:24.000And so he described the purpose of these wills and Quigley himself was a part of this group.
00:28:31.000He was allowed to examine its private papers.
00:28:35.000Quigley said in one of his books that he admired this secret society.
00:28:42.000He said the only difference of opinion that he had was that this group wished to remain unknown.
00:28:48.000But by writing these books that Quigley did, just about everything that this group did became a part of the historical record.
00:28:56.000It was not really intended for consumption by the gum-chewing public.
00:29:02.000These were academic books meant to be read by academicians, scholarly works, meant to be read by those who were involved in the secret society.
00:29:43.000That's why I've made a new film that I'll be showing at the Alamo Draft House this Saturday at 3.30 at downtown Alamo at their new, quote, Ritz location.
00:29:53.000For Infowars.com listeners on our internet streams and for those watching presentplanet.tv, we continue during the break talking about Carol Quigley, Now, who set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program.
00:30:03.000He owned the major diamond mines and gold mines in Rhodesia, in South Africa, north of there.
00:30:10.000And, of course, it turned out he was just an agent of the Queen the entire time.
00:30:13.000And, of course, one of his people that worked for him wrote a book about it after he died.
00:30:19.000Do you think everybody that is a Rhodes Scholar ends up staying on their payroll?
00:30:23.000Because we see a Chris Christopherson who speaks out against him.
00:30:27.000We see a Naomi Wolf who comes out and Speaks out against it.
00:31:01.000They didn't teach me that in a Rhodes Scholarship.
00:31:03.000But I know that Cecil Rhodes called for a world government, called for a British, Anglophile-dominated system, merged with the Rothschilds.
00:31:11.000So do you think Naomi Wolf is fibbing there?
00:31:14.000No, that's a really good question and you're not the first person that asked that question of me.
00:31:19.000I find it hard to believe that a person can be selected as a Rhodes Scholarship and actually go through the whole process and be educated there in London.
00:31:29.000And be part of that group without being a devotee of world government.
00:31:34.000I just find that very, very difficult.
00:31:36.000You know, Chris Christopherson's people said they knew who we were, but they weren't going to come on the show.
00:31:42.000Then we get Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and Tommy Chong and Charlie Sheen and German defense ministers.
00:31:48.000The incredible thing is I had the head of the Kissinger Group on last week.
00:31:53.000And when I got him on during the break, I said, hello sir, and he started laughing at me.
00:32:16.000Did you hear how he admitted, I mean, I didn't want to toot my horn on air, would have sounded obnoxious, but after the fact, it isn't that he knew who I was, it's actually scary.
00:32:24.000This is the head of the Kissinger Group, one of the heads of the Carnegie Endowment, and he's saying, yeah, we know, we all know who you are.
00:32:43.000These guys are, you know, very arrogant and, you know, they want people just to do what they say.
00:32:49.000Yeah, see what happened is we got him queued up and I, you know, John called him at like 29 after and then he was going to be on at 33 after.
00:32:58.000So I come on and say, thank you for coming on.
00:33:00.000We're not live yet, but I'm going to have you on in just a moment, sir.
00:33:03.000He started laughing at me and I said, was something wrong?
00:33:10.000And he goes, of course we know who you are.
00:33:13.000I mean, folks, do you realize they know who I am?
00:33:15.000G. Edward Griffin, that means we must be hurting him if he wanted to arrogantly laugh at me before we went on air.
00:33:22.000I mean, I remember six years ago in L.A.
00:33:25.000having Lionel Shetwan, who made the film about Bush being a hero in 9-11, the head of his film commission, came up in the bathroom while I was at the urinal and threatened me and said, we're going to get you.
00:33:36.000And then I went out on TV and debated him.
00:34:19.000The first thing they do if they want to eliminate their opposition is to ignore it.
00:34:23.000And, you know, in 99% of the cases, that works just fine.
00:34:27.000You don't have to do anything, because their opponents have no funding, they have no voice, they have no following, they have no way to survive, really.
00:34:37.000And so, usually, they're just a little splash in the pan, and then they go away, entirely on their own.
00:34:45.000If that doesn't work, well, the next step is to discredit it.
00:34:48.000To destroy it in the eyes of the American public.
00:34:51.000This is where they bring their big media guns into play.
00:34:55.000They try and paint that big brush around the face of their target that makes them look like a Some kind of a real nut, a child molester, a tax evader, a terrorist.
00:35:08.000God only knows what they can throw at the American public.
00:35:30.000I mean, the few that survive step number one get eliminated at step number two.
00:35:36.000If they survive step number two, then the next level of opposition is to try and buy them off, either directly or indirectly.
00:35:46.000They provide funding, or they provide investments in their corporations, and they load their board of directors, and over a period of time, all of a sudden, their organizations are bought off.
00:35:57.000And sometimes they're even offered money.
00:36:54.000The old adage, any publicity is good publicity, is actually not true.
00:36:57.000And I just said, you know what, because Discovery Channel comes in, History Channel comes in, BBC comes in, and they'll tell you, oh, I'm a fan.
00:37:07.000And I go, come on, I know you're lying.
00:37:22.000I've always said I won't turn down anything that's live.
00:37:27.000I do get those opportunities few and far between and I don't turn them down because there I can actually try to get something out.
00:37:34.000But to have the head of the Kissinger Group, which As you know, it's one of the most powerful groups out there, and that's a Rothschild slash Rockefeller management group, saying, yeah, I'm coming on, I'm coming on to counter you guys.
00:37:46.000And I said on air, I said, you guys must really be in trouble if you're having to go ahead and come on shows now.
00:38:06.000Well yeah, I think it is their life and they know how to manipulate public opinion so these guys must have thought that by coming on to your show that they were clever enough and skilled enough to To create, to move public opinion against you, I guess, or to capture your audience in some way, or at least to paint the picture that they were really nice guys after all.
00:38:30.000They must have had some vision of how... Well no, they were trying to humanize themselves.
00:38:33.000He made, we counted it, 10 times in 30 minute interview, which is I guess about 20.
00:39:28.000Well, I guess he just didn't achieve his goal, that's all.
00:39:31.000But you know, thinking back to Naomi, and you asked her whether or not she really might be sincere or not, I have no doubt that she is totally sincere in her opposition to martial law and in her opposition to the neocon agenda.
00:39:47.000But my question is, why does she not mention anything About the left-wing agenda that is advocated by... It's identical.
00:39:57.000It's just got a different... It's like a velvet iron fist, you know, a red glove or a black glove over it.
00:40:04.000It's identical, and she plays the game of trying to make it seem like it's all a right-wing conspiracy.
00:40:14.000And you and I both know the left wing and the right wing are just two different wings of the same ugly bird called collectivism.
00:40:21.000So when I see a Rhodes Scholar that's playing the game of focusing totally on one side of this little scam and not the other, I know what she's doing.
00:40:31.000She's trying to generate support for the Democrats.
00:40:35.000That's what her mission is, as far as I can tell.
00:42:05.000Yes, no doubt at the grassroots, but up there at the higher elevations where you need oxygen, debris, those guys know exactly what's going on.
00:42:19.000You talk about how first they ignore you, then they attack you, or first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.
00:42:25.000As Gandhi said, I kind of had it in reverse.
00:42:29.000These headhunters, in 1998, even 1997, I had like People call me who were big-shot Democrats when I was attacking Bill Clinton, and then I'd find out who they were, and you know, they would say, well, meet with me, but you've got to promise not to say we met, and so I can't say their names.
00:42:46.000I always, you know, follow my word, unless it's something criminal, and then you meet with this famous Democrat.
00:42:52.000Or you meet with another person, and this has happened maybe five or six times, and then later it was corporate offers of millions of dollars to be basically a right-winger and put out kind of a new hardcore brand of Rush Limbaugh.
00:43:05.000I mean, I turned down 600 stations, basically.
00:43:46.000Well, it is a scam, but it works, and it's very frustrating to all of us.
00:43:50.000In fact, every once in a while, I still go through that dark night where you wonder, is this really worth it?
00:43:56.000Is humanity capable of salvaging itself?
00:44:00.000And of course, when the sun rises in the morning, you always say, yes, you bet, and I'm going to be part of it, and you charge back into it.
00:44:06.000But boy, it gets awful discouraging at times, because people, you know, you look around, and even in your closest circle of friends, and even some in your family, you think, well, these are excellent people.
00:44:17.000And yet, you see them kind of sell out when it comes time to get a job, for example.
00:44:24.000I've seen people work for Well, let's just be specific for the pharmaceutical industry.
00:44:31.000Beautiful people, I know, and yet they're out there selling these drugs, and you know, deep down underneath, they know that they're hurting people.
00:45:11.000Well, as I said before, fortunately we don't need 51% of the population to have their head screwed on, right?
00:45:18.000If we can just get 3% or even 2% who understand and who are willing to dedicate a significant portion of their lives to this thing, we can recapture the program.
00:45:37.000Yeah, last night on Educational Network Point of View, they had a special about privatization of prisons.
00:45:48.000You know, where they went into detail where corporations are actually, if not taking over some prisons, are actually building their own prisons, and then going to state legislatures to actually, what you call, toughen up on laws just so people can get arrested and imprisoned, and then they hire their own
00:46:14.000Sir, sir, sir, a battery in your backyard, speeding, will now be six months a year in prison.
00:46:26.000That's the trend, of course, is to get all of these legitimate functions of government, certainly prisons would be a legitimate function of government, to get it out of the political sphere so that the voters couldn't ever have any chance at reforming it, you know.
00:46:38.000And let's be clear, this isn't free market.
00:46:40.000We pay the tax money to a private group that just so happens to generally be owned by a money laundering drug cartel.
00:47:09.000Richard, I want to continue for InfoWars.com, stream listeners.
00:47:13.000We're going to talk during this break so we don't waste time.
00:47:15.000With Richard, Angie Aber-Griffin will come back on the other side with everybody else's calls.
00:47:19.000It is a big... Okay, I want to continue talking to Richard.
00:47:22.000Richard, what program was this where they... I mean, we already knew this year, I'm just telling the audience, we know that that's how it works.
00:47:28.000That's why we have more... we have 5% of the world's population, 35% of the world's prison population.
00:47:35.000So, there's 5% of the people in the world who live in the U.S., but 35% of the world population in prison is in the U.S., and they're not stopping.
00:47:42.000They're just doubling the building, more cops, more laws, arrest you for not turning your blinker on, jail time, I mean, just total control.
00:47:52.000What show was this again, where they admitted that the private prisons go lobby for tougher laws to put us, the slaves, in their prisons for 20 cents an hour, building widgets that then take everybody else's jobs?
00:48:05.000Point of view on an educational network channel and they actually repeated it twice last night.
00:48:15.000Okay, so that's another show with the name Point of View not related to James Dobson.
00:48:26.000Uh, well, they just went into detail about it, and they pointed it out that, uh, yes, they made the implement, what you call implement, or inclination that it was getting bad when people are being hired to actually privatize How do you call it?
00:48:48.000They privatized their own guards and they've actually even gotten old prisons to go over.
00:48:57.000I'm just surprised it's on television.
00:48:59.000A classic example of that is Tulia, Texas.
00:49:02.00058 black people, no criminal record, no drugs found, were just randomly arrested and put in the local prison.
00:49:09.000That's the only job in the panhandle of West Texas in that town.
00:49:13.000And, uh, they later came out, they just said, hey, we gotta have people in the prison, so we just put the blacks in there so we all have jobs.
00:49:20.000I mean, that's really where this is going, and one in ten college grads is now going to be Homeland Security related.
00:49:26.000I mean, you've got a better chance of being struck by lightning or being killed by a deer jumping out in front of your car, but we've got to give up our whole life and no Bill of Rights and have the government run our life, and everybody's got to go live in prison to keep us safe from Al-Qaeda, Jim Griffin.
00:51:00.000In fact, you're welcome to call in on that right now.
00:51:02.000But you were making a point in the behind-the-scenes interview we were just doing for the Infowar streams that everybody needs to tune to now.
00:51:10.000We won't be on the AM or FM or shortwave.
00:51:13.000The satellite will just be at InfoWars.com with the audio and PrisonPlanet.tv with the video.
00:51:18.000Would you ever grip him for another 20 minutes or so?
00:51:21.000You were making the point about how, yeah, the private prisons are lobbying.
00:51:25.000That was just in the news the other day.
00:51:27.000I'm surprised it's on TV now, that they come and lobby and say, we need more people in prison, because we've got private prisons we've opened, we need to fill them.
00:51:35.000And so now we see people being arrested for no turn signal, no seatbelt, kids being CPS'd for the smallest of things.
00:51:43.000I mean, there's millions of new police and bureaucrats, and they're going to find terrorists.
00:51:48.000And you talked about O'Brien torturing Winston, saying, hey, this isn't for criminals.
00:51:54.000Yeah, in 1984, that book, 1984, by George Orwell, the point was made so well, O'Brien is the master criminal, he's working for the government, and he's torturing Winston, who is the good guy, and he's explaining the way that life really is.
00:52:09.000He says, Winston, come on, wake up, be real.
00:52:12.000This is the real world you're living in.
00:52:13.000And he says, you don't think we have laws in order to keep law in order or to enforce justice, do you?
00:52:23.000We have so many laws, we have so many of them that it's impossible not to break laws, no matter what you do.
00:52:29.000If you get up in the morning, you probably have broken five laws before you brush your teeth.
00:52:35.000The purpose of having so many laws is so that everybody becomes a criminal, and now we have a reason for arresting anyone, and we can control people because they're all criminals.
00:52:49.000And I think that's the idea, that we're seeing it unfold right now in our lives today.
00:52:53.000I saw something on the internet last night.
00:52:56.000Some poor bloke in the UK got arrested and he spent 18 hours in prison for dropping an apple core on the ground.
00:53:08.000It's all about getting total control, getting you in the system, and I think even a lot of police now realize and know this.
00:53:15.000I mean, every Roydhead I've seen at the gym, now I see his officers strutting down the street with, you know, deviled skulls tattooed all over them, just smiling with satanic pleasure that this is their time, I guess, and every town's going to have ne'er-do-well goons in black uniforms.
00:53:34.000In fact, next hour I want to tell you the story briefly and then we'll go back to the calls.
00:53:38.000So for all the callers, Ray, Ann, Scott and everybody else, just Abraham, Robert, call in right now at 512-646-5400 and you'll go to the head of the line for those callers that we're holding on Genesis lines.
00:53:53.000And I want to thank the network for the great job and all the affiliates and everything they do.
00:53:57.000But I have the footage of FEMA and Road to Tyranny saying the Founding Fathers are terrorists.
00:54:01.000I have the FBI training manuals with their phone numbers on it saying the Constitution's bad, people that talk about it are terrorists.
00:54:08.000And I have police squad car video where they arrest people for having pocket constitutions and state police stand there going, I think this is illegal.
00:54:15.000But at a Christian school in Texas, a major university, they said, you're not allowed to say the Bill of Rights and Constitution is good.
00:54:37.000But if you want to hear these other calls and more from G. Edward Griffin, you'll want to go like tens of thousands of people are doing right now and listen at InfoWars.com on those streams and those streams alone or you can watch us at PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:54:51.000We'll be right back on the other side in overdrive with G. Edward Griffin at InfoWars.com.
00:55:54.000Okay, folks, we're back live into overdrive.
00:55:57.000Got G. Edward Griffin joining us for another 20 minutes to take your phone calls.
00:56:02.000Got a picture of him and the late, great Aaron Russo up on the computer screen for everybody that's watching via PrisonPlanet.tv right now.
00:56:14.000And we're going to go back to Mr. Griffin here in just one moment.
00:56:19.000And I promise I'll get to all of those that are currently holding right now.
00:56:28.000G. Edward Griffin, before we take five final phone calls and let you go, any other key points, any other areas that you want to get into that we haven't covered or gone over so far?
00:56:39.000Well, I don't know that there are key points that we haven't covered, but I always feel, Alex, that it's necessary to talk about solutions whenever we talk about these problems, because otherwise it can seem so overwhelming.
00:56:55.000Do we have time for a two-minute seminar on apathy?
00:57:04.000When I was first trying to spread the word on some of these issues years and years ago, I used to be amazed at how apathetic my friends were.
00:57:14.000They just would look at me, their eyes would get glazed, they'd roll and they'd look off into space and I'd say, what's the matter with these people?
00:57:21.000They don't want to hear about the truth.
00:57:25.000And then one day I realized that the problem was me and not them.
00:57:30.000And the reason I say that is because if you can imagine that you're lying in a rubber raft and you're out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and you're all alone and you look over the edge and you see little bubbles coming up over the edge and you realize that there is a leak in the raft and you go, uh-oh, this raft is going down and you can sense that it's getting limper and limper.
00:58:01.000But if you change the scenario, and you look around the raft, and you see an air pump, and a place to screw it in, and you pump air back into the raft, all of a sudden, you're not just lying there apathetic, You're pumping away.
00:58:15.000You're Mr. Activism from top to bottom.
00:58:18.000And you'll be pumping away for as long as you have any energy left to do it.
00:58:21.000And the only difference between those two scenarios is that in the first case there was nothing you could do about it, and in the second case at least there was something that you could do.
00:58:31.000And I realized that when I was presenting all of these problems to my friends, I was making such a good case that I had convinced them that there was nothing that could be done to change it.
00:58:42.000And so I was creating the very apathy in them that was annoying me.
00:58:47.000And so from that point forward, I've always thought to myself, please, please, Edward, when you're talking about problems, you better have a solution, or else you're just going to create apathy.
00:59:32.000I assure you, you start fighting tyranny, you start investigating evil, you start confronting evil, you're going to be so alive that you're almost going to be exploding.
00:59:41.000And I hate to say that, but I am driven, I am obsessed, I am electric, I am a volcano, and I wasn't like this before I found out.
00:59:51.000With an evil group, was doing all these horrible things, and I didn't control my life.
00:59:56.000Now I do to a certain extent, because at least I'm fighting back, and I've seen thousands of victories we've had against them.
01:00:01.000So, really, people are missing out on this animating contest.
01:00:06.000I mean, who wants to be in the bleachers?
01:00:09.000I mean, I want to be down like the gladiator in the contest, G. Edward Griffin.
01:00:14.000Well, that's exactly right, and that's because you have the vision of victory.
01:01:23.000It's not the let's figure out something and pump some sunshine into people and say things that aren't true.
01:01:30.000I really at one point felt that it was pretty hopeless, that it was going to take a miracle, but now I think maybe the miracle is happening and hopefully I'm a part of it, and maybe I'm one of the ways in which it can be implemented.
01:01:42.000But I don't want to overly keep talking about Freedom Force, but that's my passion, because I see Freedom Force as the solution.
01:01:50.000And I'm so enthused over it now, I can hardly contain myself.
01:01:56.000It's not going to happen necessarily in my lifetime, but it's going to happen, and that's the important thing.
01:02:01.000And you know, when you can go to bed at night and you think, my gosh, we've set in motion something that is going to return this world to a condition of freedom and prosperity and happiness, and you had a role in that, and you had a role in overcoming this great evil, it just puts a smile on your face, and you can go to sleep and relax.
01:02:25.000Well, I agree with you, and I want to give out some web addresses here in a moment, and we have links to them, of course, all day up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, but I also have this sense of my ancestors, and I know the incredible struggles they went through, and when you read what they said, and I don't just mean what the Founding Fathers said, or people in the Magna Carta said, or others that came before against tyranny, even more modern times like Gandhi, in the modern period.
01:02:52.000But when I read the letters and things that great-great-grandfathers wrote, and it was all about what I'm doing for the family, what I'm building for my grandkids and their kids, it was a continual stream.
01:03:35.000Now, I want to talk about, briefly, and then we'll go to the calls, the Church Committee, because you interviewed some of the folks involved with that.
01:03:42.000You interviewed some of the people in Congress who were the head staffers over investigating the tax-free foundations, and you really helped get some instrumental info out before this fellow died, not just from the Congressional record that we know, Why don't you talk about what the foundations do?
01:03:58.000Because just last week, Rex Tillerson is in trouble at ExxonMobil, because he won't go along with the global carbon tax.
01:04:05.000And the Rockefeller family, they admitted, owns that and most of the other oil companies here in the United States and globally.
01:04:11.000And it came back up that their private foundations own it, but that's secret.
01:04:15.000We can't know how much money they have.
01:04:17.000And the fact from my studies that the 1906 trust-busting was really, please don't throw me in the briar patch, just like the Federal Reserve folks put out Well yes, I had the good fortune some years ago to interview Mr. Norman Dodd before he passed away shortly after the interview.
01:04:31.000them but not too wise they said oh god were for the fellow reserve then and the of the bankers don't like it uh...
01:04:38.000can you speak to these tax-free foundations and what you discovered well yes i had a good fortune uh...
01:04:43.000some years ago to interview mr norman dot uh...
01:04:48.000before he passed away shortly after the interview and the norman dot that had been the chief investigator uh... for the reese committee uh...
01:04:56.000shortly after world war two And the purpose of the Reese Committee was to investigate the tax-exempt foundations in the United States because there was a lot of concern over what these foundations were funding.
01:05:09.000They seemed to be funding organizations and movements and textbooks and things like that were absolutely contrary to the principles that made America great.
01:05:21.000And they seem to be very un-American in the sense that they were advocating change in the American culture, in the American political system, to be brought about by other than constitutional means.
01:05:34.000They seem to be funding things that were going to subvert the Constitution and so forth.
01:05:39.000So the job was to investigate these committees, and Dodd was the chief investigator.
01:05:44.000Well, to make a long story short, I had a chance to interview Dodd on camera, And we have it now at one of the videos that's available on The Reality Zone.
01:05:57.000And Dodd revealed the fact that when he talked to the heads of these largest foundations, people like the, you know, the organizations like the Ford Foundation and the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace, and those groups, he found that they had an agenda
01:06:14.000Which had nothing to do with philanthropy, but in fact it was an agenda to change the thinking of the American people over a period of time by capturing the educational system and by capturing control of government to change the American system away from its traditional roots of a constitutional republic and to convert it into a democracy in which the majority would rule with absolutely no restrictions whatsoever
01:06:45.000And I want to play a second from the film, The Hidden Agenda for World Government.
01:06:49.000With you introducing it, here in just a few minutes, but go ahead.
01:06:53.000Okay, well anyway, the object of this whole thing, according to one of these men, who is Mr. Gaither from the Ford Foundation, he said, our objective is to sort of change life in the United States so it could be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.
01:07:22.000Because it's the same global management system over every group and Quigley explains that.
01:07:27.000He even talks about in Tragedy and Hope how we, the Patriots, always attack one head of the Hydra and how it's an agenda and how they work through everything.
01:07:38.000Yes, but what he was really talking about was not that we had to be merged with communism, but we had to be merged with a system like communism, that that meant we had to be merged with systems like fascism and Nazism and communism and all of the totalitarian systems of the world.
01:07:57.000That happened to have been the biggest one.
01:07:58.000They call it a fusion of that, and that's why we call it Homeland Security, as they did in Germany, the black uniforms, everything.
01:08:04.000So what they were really saying is that America had to give up its traditions of freedom, had to give up its judicial system, its culture, everything, so we could be comfortably merged with all of these totalitarian systems of the world.
01:08:19.000And of course, they were talking about the New World Order, but they didn't use those words at that time.
01:08:23.000Let's play a minute or two of your introduction of him from the film, if people can get it, Freedom Force International.
01:08:44.000The Hidden Agenda for World Government.
01:08:47.000The story you are about to hear represents a missing piece in the puzzle of modern history.
01:08:53.000Without this knowledge, many contemporary events are simply beyond understanding.
01:08:59.000You are about to hear a man tell you that the major tax-exempt foundations of this land, since at least 1945, have been operating to promote a hidden agenda.
01:09:10.000And that agenda has nothing to do with the surface appearance of charity, good works, or philanthropy.
01:09:18.000This man will tell you that the real objectives include the creation of a worldwide collective estate, including the Soviet Union, Okay, let's stop right there.
01:09:26.000from behind the scenes by those same interests which now control the tax-exempt foundations.
01:10:13.000Uh, we exchange, uh, computer information regarding our criminals in both countries.
01:10:19.000And, uh, you know, it seems that every day you pick up the newspaper, there's another piece of evidence that the two countries are working... And Russia has always for 70 years...
01:10:29.000Train groups of mainly CPS kidnapped children.
01:10:52.000Yes, and I think what we need to focus on is that we've got to take that word communism off, take the word Nazism off, take the word neo-conservatives off, and look underneath those labels and you find that beast called collectivism.
01:11:07.000That's the same political ideology that's underpinning all of these systems, and that's what Norman Dodd said, that the tax-exempt foundations were determined to create in America with the acceptance of collectivism, and he used that word.
01:11:22.000And now that takes us to the full court press.
01:11:26.000I mean, the literature that I get from the businesses I work with, like UPS, the TV, the local ads, it's all, the earth is dying, we've got attacks, the wicked carbon dioxide.
01:11:37.000Of course, the globals had to choose something that really was needed for the earth, and that humans exhale, that plants breathe, so they could make us the enemy, as Richard Inhofe, the head of the CFR, said.
01:11:46.000He said, it's a fraud, it's meant to make us the enemy, so the state can organize operations against free humanity.
01:11:56.000The thing I got mailed today is a UPS customer telling me I've got to go green and that I'm now under the United Nations and it says you were under the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, an organization established to investigate climate change, its potential impact and options for reducing risk.
01:12:11.000And it tells me I've got to ride bikes, and a lot of it sounds reasonable, but it's about getting me used to them being the boss.
01:12:17.000They usually have reasonable sounding things up front, again about habitualizing, following their orders, and it goes through saying we have to have a carbon tax, right here, where I'm pointing for viewers out there, and can you speak a few minutes on that, and then we'll go to the calls.
01:12:33.000Well, I think your point is well taken again, Alex.
01:12:37.000A moment ago we were referring to O'Brien's message to Winston that everybody winds up being a criminal, that there are so many laws that you cannot help literally breathing without Violating a law, and here you just came up with the perfect example.
01:13:58.000Well, I mean, how do we... I mean, they've got genetic engineering, toxic waste dumping, all these serious things that are hurting the environment.
01:14:05.000So it's also perfect for them, because then they only ninny about something that isn't a dangerous gas, that doesn't even really affect them.
01:14:23.000Well, those who have read The Creature from Jekyll Island, my book on the Federal Reserve, will recall that there's a section in there toward the back in which we analyze a book called The Report from Iron Mountain.
01:14:46.000There's some question as to whether it's authentic or not, but there's no question regarding the authenticity of the conclusion.
01:14:55.000Yeah, everything that's in that document is said separately in other official documents.
01:15:00.000Yes, it's quite... you can just hold that document as a template over your daily newspaper and you can see that practically everything in the news fits that template, so you know that it's the real thing.
01:15:14.000And part of the template was These people who drafted the book said we must have a means of frightening people so much that they are willing to surrender their personal freedoms and they're willing to submit to an all-powerful government and be grateful for it because it'll be offered as a means of providing security for these people.
01:15:39.000They said, well, what can we use to establish this kind of condition?
01:15:43.000And they came to the conclusion that war was the most effective threat to bring this about.
01:15:50.000But along the way they gave very serious consideration to threat to the environment.
01:15:55.000And they talked at great length about how the possibility of destruction of the planet and the environmental condition of life might be built up and pumped up to such a magnitude that the people could be scared to death.
01:16:08.000About the end of life on this planet, and that might become someday a substitute for the threat of war.
01:16:15.000And they talked at great length about how that could psychologically be substituted as a threat for war, and they said, you know, someday when we have our world government, and we no longer have nations, there will no longer be the threat of war between nations.
01:16:28.000We gotta find something else other than war.
01:16:31.000And maybe, maybe the environmental issue will be just the ticket for us.
01:16:37.000And then we have Richard N. Haas in the 1992 and then republished last year by the CFR Club of Rome document, chairman of the CFR.
01:16:45.000Have you seen that where he says we'll use the twin rails, one is terrorism to quote wage war on the people, he says that, and then the other rail, and this is public, will be global warming to quote make humanity the enemy and then that will be the organizing thing in society is making ourselves the enemy.
01:17:05.000Well, that's exactly what they were talking about in the report from Iron Mountain.
01:17:10.000And when you think about it, terrorism actually has become a good substitute for war because terrorism is not a threat from a nation.
01:18:19.000One of the things that I wanted to bring up is two things, actually.
01:18:24.000One, we're trying out here in California to get people to run for small central committee offices and help other campaigns because we found out that If a loser loses this campaign, he still gets to make a certain amount of appointments, depending on how many votes he gets.
01:18:40.000And the other winner gets to make eight appointments to the State Central Committee.
01:18:48.000You gotta love the name of the different government agencies.
01:18:53.000Central Planning Committee, good God, go ahead.
01:18:56.000But the thing is, is trying to get people to row in the same direction.
01:19:00.000We have a lot of people with their oars in the water, but they seem to be splashing water back into the boat or going in a different direction, so people seem to be spinning their wheels.
01:19:08.000Second thing is, like this genetically altered food and stuff, I was watching a documentary called Future of Food, and since they're gene splicing these things in, if we eat this long enough, are these genes able to enter into our systems, are these genes able to enter into our systems, into our children, and now have they become property of Monsanto?
01:19:30.000Well, I'm not an expert on that, but I think that is probably a philosophical question that can become a legal question, In other words, the courts may inject themselves into that very issue.
01:19:45.000And that is very spooky to me because I know that companies like Monsanto and other large agribusiness companies They have tremendous clout economically, and they do affect the courts.
01:20:00.000The courts are passing one decision after another now in favor of Monsanto and other companies, giving them the patented rights on plants and living things.
01:20:09.000So I think it's theoretically possible, unless we turn things around and recapture control of our government, including our courts, yeah, these giant corporations could probably influence the courts and pass a decision like that.
01:20:51.000The story is now up on PrisonPlanet.com and we have a bunch of videos and confirmed examples and this training flyer and a bunch of other manuals where they say constitutionalist or terrorist, anyone that talks about the Constitution is a terrorist.
01:21:06.000It has the phone number to the FBI on it.
01:21:09.000I'm going to put that up on the PrisonPlanet.tv screen for people that are Watching that right now.
01:21:16.000I'm going to even zoom in on the number.
01:21:18.000If people want to call the FBI, go ahead.
01:21:33.000For listeners that just now tuned in, this individual at East Texas Bible College, the largest in Texas, He's given us his full name, all the documentation.
01:23:31.000Well, all I know is that most of the police have been subjected to at least one and, in many cases, several seminars where they are all assembled in a big room and somebody comes in from Washington, D.C.
01:23:45.000and instructs them, gives them profiles on what to look for for terrorists and the kinds of things that they say and where they go and what, you know, what websites they look at.
01:23:56.000I'm sure your website is on the list, as is ours.
01:24:00.000Oh, they've shown Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth in Congress and said, this is a terror group, and we need to ban these... I mean, in Congress they're saying ban free speech.
01:24:27.000And you talked about the seminars they give police.
01:24:31.000I actually have a clip of FEMA before 9-11, this was on 720-2001, teaching the huge classroom of cops that the Founding Fathers were evil terrorists.
01:24:44.000The Founding Fathers were evil terrorists.
01:24:54.000One of my listeners in Missouri... Man, for some reason this... Patriotic firefighter sent us this footage... Yeah, I'm gonna start it over.
01:25:01.000One of my listeners in Missouri, a patriotic firefighter, sent us this footage of a FEMA commando demonizing the Founding Fathers and Christians to a group of police and firefighters.
01:26:21.000Your founding fathers, my founding fathers, were involved in acts of terrorism against British officials because they systematically had British officials assassinated.
01:26:33.000The guys who we call our founding fathers, George Washington, Mr. Honest, who cut down the cherry tree in Mizzou, is the same guy who signed death orders, if you will, on members of the British government, the British Crown, who they wanted to eliminate because politically they had influence in certain pockets of the United States at that time in the 13th century.
01:26:53.000Okay, so it goes on and on from there, and then we have footage of the police, they pull Abby Newman over, they find the Constitution, and they freak out, and they go, we got contraband, and they go, I can't believe it, I can't believe she's, and they start going, oh, I can't believe she's got one, and it's like they found, like, child pornography or something, it's a pocket Constitution, which we give out, by the way, free with all our video and book orders on the website, because we're evil, and they're just going, oh my gosh, I can't believe it,
01:27:26.000How do they get the state police, you think, to be so afraid of the Constitution, sir?
01:27:30.000Well, I think that it's because they attended seminars, just like you were playing there.
01:27:40.000Well, remember what we talked about a few minutes ago about how people will sell their souls and their brains and their conscience for a paycheck?
01:27:49.000Well, I don't think the police are any different.
01:27:51.000It used to be, you know, police went into the police force to defend their friends and neighbors.
01:27:57.000And now I think the motive is a little bit different.
01:29:01.000I just wanted to touch on, it's kind of off topic, but I saw on your website today the C-51 in Canada that just hit their floor trying to ban national health care products and they changed the word drug to therapeutic products.
01:29:15.000This is scary, like what are we supposed to do?
01:29:17.000Hey, they're coming for your vitamins, they're coming for your kids.
01:30:17.000But also at the middle level and the lower level, I think there must be, there have to be, I hope I'm right, there have to be thousands if not millions of people who are already involved in this new world order that somewhere along the line are going to just They're going to have enough.
01:30:34.000Like I say, we don't want any more of this.
01:30:35.000Hey, where do you think I get FBI training manuals and SWAT training for federal marshals?
01:30:42.000I mean, I've got boxes of it's all the same.
01:30:55.000I mean, they treat these cops like they're complete idiots and I guess some of them are because they believe it, but a lot of them are good people and are now freaking out.
01:31:02.000Yeah, they're freaking out and then they're afraid because they're in the system and they really know what could happen to them if they turn the other way.
01:31:09.000My mind just suddenly went back to some years ago right during the or after the Hungarian revolt.
01:31:15.000If you remember, Hungary was under a terribly oppressive communist regime and almost overnight there was this unexpected revolt.
01:31:26.000Yes, and all of a sudden the communist regime was no longer in control and some of the military actually turned against their own military and there was complete mayhem there for a while and for a week or so afterwards the population in Hungary went rampant and they were They were running down some of the secret communist agents who had been running the torture prisons and they were assassinating these people.
01:32:18.000Of course, they were trying to save their hides right now.
01:32:21.000But, you know, it's like after the, after World War II, all of the people who were in the Nazi party in Germany suddenly said, oh, we hated Nazism, we didn't support it at all.
01:32:53.000So that's what you find in a political system, too.
01:32:56.000And you found it in America during the Revolutionary War.
01:33:00.000Most of the Americans, the colonists, sat on the sidelines.
01:33:03.000And after the revolutionaries won the war, everybody said, well, I was always solid for the revolution, but had they lost the war, they would have said, well, I was always a supporter of the king.
01:34:04.000Were you specifically wanting to disagree with me on anything I was saying?
01:34:08.000No, I was just feeling uncomfortable, Alex, with the idea that all of the people involved in this movement are evil people and that they enjoy inflicting pain.
01:34:19.000And I don't think that's what you were saying either.
01:34:21.000I just wanted to clarify that that wasn't my view.
01:34:23.000No, no, I agree with you that most of them are ignorant.
01:34:25.000In fact, a lot of them are doing evil things and think it's for the greater good.
01:34:36.000Be prepared to spend some time, and if you really want to do something about changing the events we're talking about, if you want to make a difference in the world, and not just complain about it, this is the place for you.
01:34:48.000Well, I want to have you back up again.
01:34:49.000I mean, I have you up about once a year over the last 12 years, 13 years, but time is short as you know, so I appreciate you spending so much time with us, and take care, my friend.
01:34:58.000Well, thank you so much, Alex, and God bless you, and talk to you next time.
01:35:01.000take care there goes you ever driven now i'm gonna honor your calls because i appreciate you holding sorry you talk that's a start to grab the little brought up so many points every each caller about a minute or so so we get to everybody and wrap this transmission up because out the re-rodcast is about to begin and i want you to hear this this fellow who was there the eyewitness uh...
01:35:36.000Hey, just for all the non-believers out there, I am a victim of 30 years of three microchips embedded into the back of my neck.
01:35:50.000And at the time when my father came back from Vietnam, he was working for, get this, I found out through the Social Security Administration and two hospital administrators, that he was working for the DOD, the Navy, and the Army at the same time.
01:36:08.000And when I had to go in for my surgery, this was after, this was March 21st of last year, I ended up putting a crowbar accidentally through my, I was trying to put a lift kit on my jeep truck anyway, ended up flying back about 20 feet, landed on the back of my head, shoved this crowbar three and a half inches into my brain, into my temporal and frontal lobe, and so I had to have some serious surgery done, and one of the neurosurgeons,
01:36:39.000Had come into the room, this is after my second injection, and they said that, they told my wife and her family and my mom, and my mom said it was all my dad, and she walked out, didn't even stay for the surgery or anything, and they said, look, he's got a 10% chance to live on this.
01:36:58.000If we strap him down to the operating table, and that Rambo chip in his right shoulder goes off, he's dead.
01:37:05.000And she walked out and just irate and tried to totally find it.
01:37:09.000Well, I'll tell you what, I appreciate your call.
01:37:57.000I just went to the beach for a few days with the family, and then I'm completely crazed when I come back.
01:38:01.000In fact, I think the thing is, get a lot of other people to fill in for you so that they know that if you go down, there's a lot of other people just waiting to step into the breach.
01:38:23.000You know, I talk a lot about that because people constantly marvel and discuss it, and I have to be killed by the government to prove I'm a good person.
01:38:47.000We should petition the people to make the courts a Constitution-free zone.
01:38:51.000I think that's what we're playing the game with.
01:38:53.000Well, the feds have already been saying that the Constitution is not admissible in any federal court, and there's a ban on the Second Amendment.
01:38:59.000You and I know this, and I'm a few selected few know it.
01:39:21.000The courts are a very important issue.
01:39:23.000The courts are the places where the Constitution is being scrapped.
01:39:27.000So that we should let them go ahead with it.
01:39:29.000Say, okay, we'll make it right that the courts can be a constitution-free zone.
01:39:33.000Play what they're doing up to the limit and go overboard and use hyperbola as a tool against them because they don't want people to realize that the courts are a constitution-free zone.
01:39:43.000Well, no, I agree with you, but I mean, it's so over the top that it's... Well, we can go over the top and make them look like idiots because that's what they're doing.
01:39:51.000Well, I mean, this is the New York Sun headline, gag on 2nd Amendment and cities aimed to, uh, in gun suit.
01:39:59.000So, I mean, it's just, now tasers telling doctors will sue you if you say taser caused somebody to die?
01:40:31.000I really wanted to share this with Mr. Griffin, because he's awesome, and he's the one that led me to find this.
01:40:37.000I've got an incredible quote with regards to what's going on with the North American Union by, actually, of all people, Carroll Quigley, on page 133 of Tragedy and Hope, and he says the following.
01:40:48.000The Rhodes Secret Society was, quote, constantly harping on the lessons to be learned from the failure of the American Revolution and the success of the Federation of 1867, and hoped to federate the various parts of the empire as seemed feasible, then confederate the whole of it with the United Kingdom into a single organization, hoping to bring then confederate the whole of it with the United Kingdom into a single organization, hoping to bring the United States Yeah, here he is saying the failure of the British Empire was not keeping the Americanos under their control.
01:41:15.000And he goes on to say, making Washington the capital of the whole organization, or allow parts of the empire to become states of the American Union.
01:41:28.000Yeah, and they're setting it up, and as the toll roads go in, and they call it Trans-Texas Corridor, they say on the news these toll roads do not exist.
01:41:36.000As they go in, and as it says Trans-Texas Corridor, the news announces that that doesn't exist.
01:43:53.000I mean, I had a top levelist on last week, and he knew who I was, and was well aware, and was trying to come on and counter us, and he wasn't happy at the end of it.
01:44:00.000I mean, his stupid little tricks, he was shocked that, you know, even though he knew who we were, he thought he would just mesmerize us, and the guy's really nothing.
01:44:22.000The hospital admits that he gets delusional and collapses.
01:44:26.000And so he was mumbling under his breath saying, I'm going to get you.
01:44:30.000And rather than medical workers coming in and holding him down and strapping him down and getting him oxygen, he went, oh my gosh, the man's delirious.
01:44:38.000All the time, people that have diabetes who are stumbling around, you know, From blood sugar problems, delirious, they taser them.
01:46:41.000And I really want to ask everybody out there, if we're not able to stop this 26,000 preachers out telling their flocks to turn their guns in and go to FEMA camps, if we're not able to expose that we have the FBI training manuals where they're saying people that talk about freedom are terrorists, if they're able to get away With all of this, they are going to basically just have it accepted.
01:47:06.000Like, yes, you're not allowed to say we're supposed to have freedom.
01:47:29.000And I also just want to ask the listeners out there to continue to support us.
01:47:32.000I want to get a bigger office so I can hire more people, get better cameras, better computers, do different work, and I'm so busy fighting the New World Order half the time that I don't even remember to plug things.
01:47:42.000If you've got a PrisonPlanet.tv membership, you can watch this overdrive hour, sometimes overdrive two hours, like today, at PrisonPlanet.tv if you are a member of PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:49:05.000I could talk for 10 hours without ever plugging a sponsor or a product or anything, but we wouldn't exist here.
01:49:11.000And we know the economy's going to hell in a handbasket.
01:49:14.000We're trying to capitalize now so we can weather storms like the ants, not the grasshoppers, trying to store some Federal Reserve notes, convert them into something so we have funding capital to operate.
01:49:46.000It is to move on and elevate people to the next level of understanding and bring on the guests and people who actually have proven themselves to be patriots to magnify them and build them up.