Alex Jones Show - 20080520_Tue

00:00:02.000 All of a sudden they... Big Brother.

00:00:06.000 Mainstream media.

00:00:07.000 Government cover-ups.

00:00:09.000 You want answers?

00:00:11.000 Well, so does he.

00:00:13.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

00:00:16.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

00:00:20.000 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. - It's done.

00:00:31.000 It is already the 20th day of May 2008, and we are going straight into a big interview right here at the start of the show.

00:00:41.000 He'll be with us for the next 40 minutes.

00:00:43.000 He is former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura, also Hollywood movie star, Navy SEAL.

00:00:50.000 And so much more.

00:00:51.000 He's also a best-selling author, former TV host on MSNBC, and he was on with us about a month ago, and it made headlines in hundreds of newspapers, the Associated Press, and national television, when he came on the show and questioned the official 9-11 story.

00:01:07.000 And I was just talking to him before we went live, and he said he's quote, got something he wants to complain about.

00:01:13.000 So you'll find out what that is with me right now.

00:01:16.000 Governor Ventura, thank you for coming on with us.

00:01:18.000 Hi Alex, great to be here again.

00:01:20.000 I hope I can say that.

00:01:21.000 No, I'm laughing because I guess when you do your show, you automatically make it on Bill O'Reilly's idiot list.

00:01:31.000 I think that's what happens, yes.

00:01:34.000 Now, I'm confused over that, Alex.

00:01:37.000 How come we're not allowed to ask any questions today?

00:01:41.000 Well this broadcast has about two million listeners per show and then it's all magnified on the web and they don't like the fact that there is a large alternative radio show with more than 60 affiliates and that's number one internet show.

00:01:56.000 Maybe it's something like that because I can't believe how I simply asked some questions and the way you're attacked.

00:02:06.000 For simply asking questions?

00:02:07.000 Has our country really become that?

00:02:09.000 That you're not even allowed to publicly question the government?

00:02:13.000 You know, I say this, Alex, because in looking back on my 56 years on the planet, the governments lied to me a great deal.

00:02:22.000 And they don't have great credibility with me.

00:02:27.000 So why wouldn't I question them when they tell me something?

00:02:32.000 Oh, I totally agree with you.

00:02:33.000 I mean, how many times have they been caught lying?

00:02:36.000 And isn't it more suspicious?

00:02:38.000 Methinks they protest too much?

00:02:40.000 Yeah.

00:02:40.000 That they don't want us to ask about Building 7, the firefighters on tape saying the government blew it up?

00:02:45.000 I mean, why aren't we supposed to talk about that?

00:02:47.000 I don't know.

00:02:48.000 You know, one of the most interesting interviews that I've seen now has been William Rodriguez.

00:02:59.000 Absolutely.

00:03:00.000 When I watched the DVD of William Rodriguez, this guy is totally talking from what he remembers.

00:03:09.000 You can clearly see it.

00:03:11.000 He's not making anything up.

00:03:13.000 Well, he was there.

00:03:14.000 The firefighters and police say that he stayed in to get a lot of them out when things were starting to collapse.

00:03:19.000 Oh, he's a hero's hero.

00:03:21.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:03:22.000 And when you hear him talk, And he tells about what he knows there.

00:03:27.000 How can you not question what went on that day?

00:03:31.000 Well, that was my first question.

00:03:32.000 What do you think of the massive media attack that you have gone through for simply asking a question?

00:03:41.000 They never address what you actually said on the show.

00:03:45.000 And the majority of Americans in polls have the same questions.

00:03:47.000 It's all that you're bad to ask those questions.

00:03:50.000 Well, yeah, it's been pretty eye-opening, to say the least.

00:03:56.000 You know, if you do ask a question out there, it's like you're not allowed to today.

00:04:02.000 And that's what really troubles me the most, is this attitude.

00:04:05.000 Is it, Alex, the fact that, and here's what I truly believe, I think people have this hidden almost screen around them in many ways that um they because they don't want to believe that it could be true they they they just put that screen up and won't allow anything to penetrate it to the effect that it might be true

00:04:30.000 You're right, it's a bubble of denial, their little imaginary world, and anything that conflicts with that, they say isn't allowed.

00:04:39.000 Yeah, it really is that way, and that to me is what has to come down, is the fact that Uh, you know, and I like to refer a great deal to the movie that was just out with, uh, on John Adams because it was very profound.

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00:05:08.000 And anything that conflicts with that, they say isn't allowed.

00:05:11.000 Yeah, it really is that way.

00:05:14.000 And that, to me, is what has to come down, is the fact that, uh, you know, and I like to refer a great deal to the movie that was just out with, uh, John Adams, because it was very profound.

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00:08:03.000 Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.

00:08:08.000 Well, he needs no introduction.

00:08:10.000 He's Jesse Ventura.

00:08:12.000 He's going to be with us for most of this hour.

00:08:13.000 We're very thankful for that.

00:08:15.000 And I was going to get into his book, being on the New York Times best-selling list.

00:08:20.000 And I was going to get into his, uh...

00:08:23.000 Run for the Senate.

00:08:24.000 Is he really going to do it?

00:08:26.000 We know he's looking at that.

00:08:27.000 When will we get a final answer?

00:08:28.000 And we will cover that in the second half of the interview after the bottom of the hour.

00:08:33.000 But, out of the gates, he brought up 9-11.

00:08:35.000 Now, I have to say, Governor Ventura, I have never seen anyone, and I said this on air, my whole staff said this, all the emails we got said it.

00:08:42.000 I've never seen anyone trounce Sean Hannity like that, just from a position of strength, a position of knowledge.

00:08:50.000 When he says, hey, we don't stage the news, we're not told what to say, and you said, oh, you really want to cover Anna Nicole Smith for six months.

00:08:57.000 And he just looked like a cat that had been caught eating the canary.

00:09:00.000 He looked totally guilty and turned red-faced and smiled like a Cheshire cat.

00:09:05.000 I mean, it's asinine.

00:09:06.000 It's come out of the Pentagon's planning propaganda.

00:09:08.000 They have hundreds of people on the payroll claiming they're not, putting out this info about the war.

00:09:13.000 We know there's propaganda in media.

00:09:16.000 We know they have talking points.

00:09:17.000 They have talking points to attack 9-11 truthers.

00:09:20.000 But I have to tell you, you absolutely kicked Hannity's butt.

00:09:26.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:09:27.000 He was speechless.

00:09:29.000 Well, you know, I'm going to give him his due.

00:09:31.000 I actually found him, on and off camera, the day that I was there, kind of enjoyable.

00:09:40.000 And I know that seems weird to say, it's because I think that with me he took a slightly different posture than he did with most people.

00:09:48.000 The thing is, they want me on later this month, but it won't be in studio.

00:09:51.000 I fully expect them to be far more aggressive with me when I'm not there in person.

00:09:53.000 I fully expect them to be far more aggressive with me when I'm not there in person.

00:09:59.000 But it's not just that they weren't being aggressive.

00:10:01.000 Everything he threw at you, you totally turned around on him.

00:10:05.000 And I've told my listeners that is now the textbook example of how to deal with these people.

00:10:09.000 Well, I deal with it the only way I know how, and that's kind of pull the strap the years back and full bore ahead.

00:10:17.000 I'm that way about things.

00:10:21.000 The truth of the matter was I worked in that business.

00:10:24.000 I know what goes on because I thought it myself when I worked at MSNBC.

00:10:29.000 Every day they would send me down the topics they wanted on the show after telling me that my show I could have complete control of.

00:10:37.000 Well, there were topics that, yes, I remember distinctly the one was the murder in California.

00:10:44.000 Of the pregnant girl?

00:10:46.000 Yes.

00:10:47.000 And I mean that's important to California, but there's 10,000, 12,000 murders a year that take place.

00:10:54.000 How is one more important than another in this country?

00:11:00.000 And those are local stories that should be dealt with with local media.

00:11:04.000 They are not national stories, nor should they be made national stories.

00:11:08.000 They're national inquirer stories.

00:11:10.000 Well, we know what they do.

00:11:11.000 We do those strictly to get ratings.

00:11:13.000 I was about to say, and it fills up the news time with these issues that don't affect the power brokers.

00:11:19.000 Meanwhile, there's no time to talk about how three more U.S.

00:11:22.000 troops died today.

00:11:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:25.000 They fill it up with this gaga baloney, and the bad part is we as a culture are accepting it, but hopefully the listeners that listen to you and the internet are very dangerous to that because it's becoming more and more powerful all the time, as we know, and rest assured the internet will be the next thing the government will try to control.

00:11:47.000 By the way, Joe Lieberman has called for federal control over the internet.

00:11:53.000 He wrote a letter to Google's head and said that they need to self-censor and that the government would give them a list of things that weren't allowed to be covered.

00:12:02.000 Thank God Google said no, but they're talking about taxing the web, regulating it, making you have an IP address that's certified, making you thumb scan to get online.

00:12:12.000 What's your view on that, Governor?

00:12:14.000 I think that's horrible.

00:12:16.000 You know, to me, we better wake up, you know.

00:12:19.000 Oh, guess what?

00:12:19.000 I got a great story for you that'll tie right in.

00:12:22.000 I just came across the Mexican border from Mexico to the U.S., right?

00:12:27.000 Yes, sir.

00:12:28.000 And this will tie into what you just talked about.

00:12:30.000 All through Mexico, I was waved through every military stop.

00:12:35.000 They have now down there what are called hassle-free zones.

00:12:39.000 Where U.S.

00:12:40.000 citizens can drive and you won't be hassled by the federales or any of that stuff.

00:12:45.000 Who wants their little bike?

00:12:47.000 Their Mordidas?

00:12:49.000 Well, but the point of the matter was I wasn't stopped until the U.S.

00:12:53.000 border.

00:12:55.000 And they stopped me.

00:12:56.000 I crossed at McAuliffe, below Tucson.

00:13:00.000 And when they stopped me, they recognized who I was.

00:13:04.000 I drive an RV.

00:13:05.000 They sent me over to the inspection area.

00:13:09.000 And I was inspected and he knew who I was.

00:13:17.000 Guess what they confiscated from me?

00:13:20.000 What?

00:13:21.000 This is Homeland Security for you.

00:13:23.000 My dog's dog food.

00:13:26.000 Keeping us safe from Al-Qaeda.

00:13:28.000 Gotta stop that dog food.

00:13:30.000 Now here's the thing that troubled me.

00:13:31.000 This was dog food.

00:13:32.000 I have a very special dog.

00:13:34.000 And I carry the dog food from Minnesota to Mexico and back and I bring enough.

00:13:40.000 And so the dog food was purchased in the United States.

00:13:44.000 It just was taken out of its original Well, they had to, they had to have that authority over you.

00:13:50.000 And it was my word, Alex.

00:13:52.000 Go ahead.

00:13:53.000 When I said that to them and said, but this is United States dog food, it didn't matter that I vouched for it.

00:14:00.000 And the fact that only my dog would be eating it.

00:14:03.000 It wasn't like I was bringing in, you know, 30 cartons worth of Mexican dog food.

00:14:10.000 I'm a private vehicle carrying dog food, and they confiscated it.

00:14:14.000 Well, the point is that criminals are running wild, murder and crime is way up, and meanwhile Homeland Security is taking over almost every federal agency, and you have a former governor, you know, an individual who is well-known to everybody, and they had to have that little enforcement, that little, we're the boss, you did something wrong, they're training Americans how to be slaves.

00:14:36.000 I don't know about that, but I thought it was utterly ridiculous that they could confiscate dog food from you when you state that it originated here.

00:14:45.000 What about your word?

00:14:46.000 Doesn't that mean anything anymore today?

00:14:49.000 No, it means nothing to them.

00:14:50.000 Let's go back.

00:14:50.000 Well, okay.

00:14:51.000 Governor, to when out of the gates, you talked about the media attacking you, but the media saying how dare you question the official 9-11 story, never addressing any of the specific facts you listed.

00:15:02.000 So we were talking during the break, and you said you'd like to go through the scientific evidence from another perspective.

00:15:08.000 Let's talk about 9-11.

00:15:10.000 Well, okay.

00:15:11.000 I'll come at it a little more from a professional standpoint, and maybe I'll make it on O'Reilly again.

00:15:18.000 I served three years with the Navy Underwater Demolition Team 12, West Coast, and our specialty and what I was trained in was blowing things up.

00:15:30.000 And from a professional standpoint and watching how these three buildings fell, it sure looks like demolition to me.

00:15:38.000 And I believe I have an eye for it, you know, having been trained in it and trained by the best that our military has.

00:15:47.000 And especially building number 7, no doubt on that one.

00:15:52.000 When you look at it from my viewpoint, that looks like demolition explosions bringing it down.

00:15:58.000 And I view that as a member of the underwater demolition team.

00:16:04.000 But then we have them staging the Gulf of Tonkin.

00:16:07.000 We have our own government staging the attack on Iran.

00:16:11.000 And now the White House admits they funded real Wahhabist Al Qaeda, number three in Al Qaeda.

00:16:17.000 It's been going on for four years to attack Iran and stage terror attacks there.

00:16:22.000 A former general came out on Fox earlier this week and said that we need to, quote, have terror attacks inside Iran.

00:16:28.000 But then the media turns around and says Iran is Al-Qaeda, when Iran is Shiite.

00:16:33.000 I mean, that's incredible when our government's funding real Al-Qaeda to attack Iran, but then saying Iran is also Al-Qaeda.

00:16:41.000 Well, I can't answer to that because I'm not as privy as you on that information.

00:16:45.000 Remember, I just returned from Mexico, and I don't get all the news that you get on that, so I can't really respond to that at all.

00:16:54.000 I can only listen to what you have to say and be appalled over it if it's indeed true.

00:17:00.000 Let's go back and look at 9-11 from this angle.

00:17:02.000 Why did you decide?

00:17:04.000 I mean, I interviewed you in June of 2006, almost two years ago.

00:17:07.000 You said, I have questions, Operation Northwoods.

00:17:11.000 I have questions, Gulf of Tonkin, other staged events.

00:17:14.000 But you went that far.

00:17:15.000 And then last time, I didn't press you on 9-11.

00:17:18.000 You brought it up during a break and said, I'd like to talk about it.

00:17:20.000 Why did you decide to take that plunge and go ahead and write about it and question in your book and then go even further on my show?

00:17:27.000 I mean, what...

00:17:29.000 What spurred me to do it, first of all, I was like everyone.

00:17:33.000 I couldn't comprehend, nor did I want to believe the worst.

00:17:37.000 And we all know what the worst is.

00:17:40.000 And I also was embarrassed a little bit that when it happened, I went on full military mode.

00:17:46.000 I didn't question anything because I was the governor at the time.

00:17:50.000 And I feel bad about that now because I could have been even more powerful then in questioning it.

00:17:57.000 But I didn't, because again, I kind of went on military mode.

00:18:00.000 Our country's been attacked.

00:18:01.000 I believed what I was told.

00:18:03.000 Believed it.

00:18:05.000 And went accordingly.

00:18:07.000 Well, then after I got out of office shortly thereafter, and of course the invasion of Iraq happened, which I opposed, I couldn't understand why, if Al Qaeda indeed truly attacked us, Why would we not be fighting them in Afghanistan?

00:18:23.000 Instead, we're focusing and going in this other direction to Iraq, who had nothing to do with any of it.

00:18:29.000 In fact, Saddam Hussein feared Al-Qaeda as a problem for him.

00:18:35.000 So it didn't make sense to me on that aspect, and so when we invaded Iraq was when I truly, truly started to question President Bush and his policies.

00:18:45.000 Because I opposed that war before it even happened.

00:18:49.000 And that's when I thought, and my son kept on me, he kept telling me about this loose change that was on the internet, and I'm not very savvy to the internet generally.

00:19:00.000 And finally he kept on me saying, you've got to watch this.

00:19:04.000 And I kept even fighting with him, saying, come on, Ty, you can't believe everything on the Internet.

00:19:08.000 You know, there's no way these guys had to have attacked us, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:19:14.000 Well, then we got home from Mexico a couple years ago, and one Sunday afternoon my wife and I both said, you know, let's watch that loose change thing that my son keeps telling you about.

00:19:26.000 And so we had an hour or whatever it was.

00:19:28.000 We went up to the computer room and we watched it.

00:19:31.000 And when I watched it, it hit me like this punch in the stomach. - Correct.

00:19:36.000 The things that are brought up in it.

00:19:38.000 So your instincts then picked up the truth of it?

00:19:42.000 Yeah, well I guess you'd call it my instincts.

00:19:47.000 I just, as I watched it and started putting things together and the fact that why would George Bush drag his feet on any investigation?

00:19:56.000 I put myself in that position as a governor or as a president.

00:20:01.000 If I had a disaster happen like the one we had here in Minnesota where the bridge fell in the water, you would immediately commission a full-blown public study because, number one, if you're a true public servant, you want to know what happened, you want to know why, you want to learn everything you can to ensure it would never happen again.

00:20:20.000 Well, you're right, Governor.

00:20:22.000 Well, let me finish.

00:20:24.000 Stonewalled an investigation for over two years, and the only reason he did one was because of pressure from the 9-11 victims.

00:20:34.000 And then that was a whitewash.

00:20:35.000 He tried to have Henry Kissinger, his top advisor, they said, quote, independent, run it, and then now even the commission admits they were blocked by the Bush administration.

00:20:44.000 Even his appointees admit that it was basically a staged event.

00:20:48.000 Yeah, and when I look at what happened on that, and of course going back then to John F. Kennedy, which I don't want to get into all of that, but certainly I've studied that for 20 years when I was a wrestler riding on airplanes.

00:21:04.000 It made for good study material.

00:21:07.000 and i got hooked on it and i don't believe that commission either and and it disturbs me a great deal that my government will be so dishonest with me and feel that they can't trust me with any real knowledge well not just the government uh...

00:21:22.000 actually in 79 as you know they had a full-blown congressional commission that found that uh...

00:21:28.000 he had been murdered and it was a conspiracy that the jfk that it was more than one shooter but the media never covered that They act like, oh, the Warren Commission, it's the end-all, be-all, and then Congress itself was ignored.

00:21:40.000 Yeah, well, I know they were supposed to pass it along to the Justice Department.

00:21:44.000 The Justice Department has done nothing.

00:21:47.000 Well, I guess that's up to their discretion.

00:21:49.000 If they don't want to investigate anything, they don't.

00:21:52.000 And that's why it stays forever hidden, because they don't want to investigate it.

00:21:56.000 But, you know, that's how I got into it.

00:22:01.000 That's how I changed and basically opened my mind up and said, what's going on here?

00:22:07.000 It was because of the fact of watching loose change that my son recommended to me through the internet, and the fact in watching and putting things together as I observed the reaction of our government and what they did and how they reacted.

00:22:20.000 The other thing that I want to bring up strongly is this, too.

00:22:24.000 Having been a frogman and a Navy SEAL, I know what it's like to be in a position where failure is not an option.

00:22:32.000 And in the case of our Air National Defense, failure is not an option.

00:22:37.000 And on 9-11, they thoroughly failed.

00:22:41.000 And here's my point.

00:22:42.000 Why was nobody fired?

00:22:45.000 Why did no one lose their job over the catastrophic failure of 9-11, if it's indeed what they told us it was?

00:22:55.000 Someone should have lost their job when they moved those nuclear warheads from North Dakota down to Louisiana a year ago or whatever it was.

00:23:06.000 They violated many, many security standards.

00:23:11.000 I read later 70 people were reassigned or lost their jobs because of that.

00:23:16.000 And yet, for our good fortune, nothing happened.

00:23:20.000 Well, you're right, Governor.

00:23:22.000 Here you have the death of 3,000 people, and nobody loses their job over it?

00:23:27.000 Well, it's the same thing when you have a big train wreck, or as you said, the bridge collapse, or a jumbo jet crashes.

00:23:33.000 They always have a big investigation.

00:23:35.000 Not here.

00:23:36.000 In fact, they banned cameras, they were totally restrictive, they acted very, very Suspicious.

00:23:41.000 And you see those buildings, the beams being blown in little bitty pieces.

00:23:44.000 We're about to go back live on the main network feed here in about 15 seconds, Governor.

00:23:49.000 I want to continue discussing, you know, your awakening to 9-11 and where you think things should go from here should there be another investigation.

00:23:58.000 Again, we're talking to Governor Jesse Ventura.

00:23:59.000 Governor Jesse Ventura, author of the new book that's on the bestseller author of the new book that's on the bestseller list, on a bunch of the different bestseller lists, Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.

00:24:23.000 We have links where you can get it at InfoWars.com, but it's in stores everywhere.

00:24:27.000 We're going to talk more about that before he leaves us.

00:24:30.000 Governor Ventura, you were going over during that last segment that some stations didn't get.

00:24:34.000 Why hasn't there been an investigation when there's an investigation of a cop having an auto accident and getting hurt?

00:24:43.000 Or there's an investigation of a jumbo jet blowing up, or an investigation of the bridge collapse?

00:24:47.000 I mean, it's not just that.

00:24:50.000 Then we have how they've used 9-11 to take our liberties and freedoms, and how they directed us at the wrong country, like you mentioned, Iraq and Afghanistan, and how Bush then said, I'm not looking for bin Laden, I don't care where he is.

00:25:03.000 And now how they're using anti-terror laws against the American people and federalizing everything.

00:25:09.000 Can you give me your take on that, Governor?

00:25:11.000 Well, I certainly don't like it.

00:25:13.000 You know, we're called the United States of America, and that means states' rights, and for many things I think states' rights should prevail.

00:25:23.000 We always have a constant takeover by the federal government going on, and we have to stand up to it, and you have to find a way to do it, because we don't want to be the United States with no states.

00:25:40.000 And that's the direction we seem to be going at, and that was one of my big disappointments in George Bush when he first took office.

00:25:48.000 He said that he was going to be an old federalist-style president, power to the states, which I agreed with.

00:25:54.000 And every decision he's made has been just the opposite.

00:25:57.000 And case in point, like, what is it now, 11 or 12 states have voted for medicinal use of marijuana, and yet the federal government won't allow it.

00:26:08.000 Uh, Oregon I know twice has voted for dignity and death, that if you want to, if you're not going to live and you're dying, you have the right to be in control of your life.

00:26:18.000 And the federal government says no.

00:26:19.000 And so things like that are very disturbing to me because I like to have an option in this country that the state that I live in thinks a lot like me and I have the option in which to live there, but more and more I'm seeing that leave, so I tend to live in Mexico more today.

00:26:39.000 Would you say that in many respects a third world country like Mexico has more freedoms than we have here?

00:26:44.000 Well, I'll put it to you this way.

00:26:46.000 I could still go in the bar and have a cigar at a sports event.

00:26:49.000 Smoke a cigar in the bar, you can't hear.

00:26:55.000 Well, that's the control freak nanny state, which is just... You know, I mean, I say that laughingly.

00:27:01.000 The other thing is, too, Mexico, I'm not saying Mexico has a great government, but at least you know they're corrupt.

00:27:07.000 I agree.

00:27:07.000 So you know that going in.

00:27:10.000 But the thing that I find where I live, there's nobody of government anywhere around.

00:27:16.000 So you just govern yourselves and we all get along great.

00:27:19.000 It's like a libertarian paradise where I'm at.

00:27:23.000 You're absolutely right.

00:27:24.000 You're absolutely right.

00:27:25.000 You know, I take care of myself, Alex, and my family, and we help each other.

00:27:30.000 My neighbors help if they need help.

00:27:32.000 We pull each other out of the ditch, because I live in a pretty rugged area, and everyone pitches in, and it doesn't require government at all, even though there's all these laws and everything.

00:27:42.000 Hey, if they're not around, they don't apply to anybody.

00:27:46.000 Just take care of each other.

00:27:47.000 What kind of dog you got, Governor?

00:27:49.000 I have a Belgian Malinois.

00:27:51.000 Oh yeah, he's so smart.

00:27:55.000 When he arrived here, he was literate in three languages, which made him the smartest in the house.

00:28:00.000 He's soon learning Spanish, number four.

00:28:04.000 Amazing.

00:28:06.000 We're going to break and come back with our final segment with the Governor, unless I can twist his alarm to stay even longer, maybe to the end of the hour.

00:28:12.000 But I want to come back and talk some about the book.

00:28:14.000 I want to talk about a Senate run.

00:28:16.000 Let's go ahead and get into that now.

00:28:18.000 Are you going to run for the Senate, or how long until we know?

00:28:21.000 Here's how I feel right now.

00:28:22.000 I don't know yet, and I have until July to decide.

00:28:26.000 I feel like this.

00:28:28.000 I believe strongly that on every ballot, federal, local, or whatever, there should be none of the above.

00:28:34.000 So you can vote a vote of no confidence in your government.

00:28:37.000 With this deficit, we should have no confidence in them.

00:28:41.000 And I may offer myself up as that, because it doesn't officially, it isn't officially on the ballot, none of the above.

00:28:49.000 But if I go file and put Jesse Ventura down, I then become none of the above.

00:28:55.000 And so any disgruntled voter, and all I'll try to do at that point is run a very minimal campaign, and all I ask is to be allowed in the debates.

00:29:05.000 Because if I can debate them, I can beat them.

00:29:08.000 Well, no doubt we need your voice in the U.S.

00:29:10.000 Senate because you are a maverick, you are somewhat of a renegade, and you're only a renegade because you're what we call an old-fashioned American independence, liberty, freedom, and we need you.

00:29:22.000 So I would certainly support you from Texas for a run for the Minnesota Senate because you could certainly wreak havoc on their plans and use a bully pulpit up there to expose what they're doing.

00:29:33.000 So, Governor, we totally support you.

00:29:34.000 We're going to be back in three minutes with Governor Jesse Ventura, and we'll also talk about his new book, Don't Start a Revolution Without Me.

00:29:43.000 So I'm drafting you, Governor.

00:29:44.000 I think you need to go ahead and run for the Senate.

00:29:46.000 We'll be right back.

00:29:46.000 Stay with us.

00:29:50.000 We're on the march.

00:29:52.000 Liberty, freedom, and we need you, so I would certainly support you from Texas for a run for the Minnesota Senate, because you could certainly wreak havoc on their plans and use a bully pulpit up there to expose what they're doing.

00:30:05.000 So Governor, we totally support you.

00:30:07.000 We're going to be back in three minutes with Governor Jesse Ventura, and we'll also talk about his new book, Don't Start a Revolution Without Me.

00:30:15.000 So I'm drafting you, Governor.

00:30:17.000 I think you need to go ahead and run for the Senate.

00:30:18.000 We'll be right back.

00:30:19.000 Stay with us.

00:30:23.000 We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.

00:30:27.000 Alex Jones and the GCN Radio.

00:30:37.000 So much going on, so much going on.

00:30:44.000 So many things going on in the world.

00:30:49.000 And we have a short time left with Governor Ventura, so I'm going to try to move quickly.

00:30:55.000 Governor, final comment on 9-11.

00:30:58.000 I want to play you a clip that came out and was in major newspapers last week.

00:31:02.000 You may have missed it.

00:31:03.000 Where I'm sure you've heard about how all these major quote wartime correspondents or experts they have on Fox, CNN, MSNBC are really on the Pentagon payroll.

00:31:15.000 They're all former generals of course and colonels.

00:31:17.000 And that they're putting out unified propaganda.

00:31:20.000 They've now released hundreds of hours of these tapes and on the tape I mean, this president is pretty much a victim of success.

00:31:25.000 We haven't had an attack here in five years.

00:31:26.000 saying the same thing.

00:31:27.000 Help.

00:31:27.000 And Rumsfeld says, yeah, the cure for the people not wanting to go into Iran and other places is another attack.

00:31:34.000 Here's that one-minute clip.

00:31:35.000 I want to get your take on this.

00:31:36.000 I mean, this president's pretty much a victim of success.

00:31:40.000 We haven't had an attack here in five years.

00:31:42.000 Health, the perception of the threat is so low in the society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment.

00:31:58.000 And the same thing is in Europe.

00:32:00.000 There's a low threat perception.

00:32:02.000 The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack.

00:32:10.000 And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another person.

00:32:16.000 And it's a shame.

00:32:17.000 We don't have the maturity to recognize.

00:32:20.000 So the American people don't have the maturity to give up their liberties, so there's got to be another attack.

00:32:25.000 The PENAC documents written by Dick Cheney in September of 2000 called for massive Pearl Harbor events to mobilize the empire.

00:32:33.000 Zygmunt Brzezinski's book, Grand Chess Board, calls for giant terror attacks.

00:32:38.000 Your take on that, sir?

00:32:40.000 Well, first of all, I got to apologize.

00:32:42.000 There was a lot of static on there, and my ears are not any better than they used to be before.

00:32:49.000 I had a hard time hearing it clearly.

00:32:50.000 Okay, well let me just tell you what he says.

00:32:52.000 He says, quote, the correction for the people not wanting military action is another attack.

00:32:59.000 And he said that's the cure for it, but barring having another one of those, the people don't support the war.

00:33:05.000 And who said this?

00:33:06.000 Donald Rumsfeld.

00:33:07.000 Wow.

00:33:08.000 Well, you know, if this stuff's true, then my book is right on.

00:33:14.000 We've got to have a revolution and take our country back.

00:33:18.000 Well, I agree.

00:33:19.000 The book is on a bunch of the bestseller lists.

00:33:23.000 Why did you decide to write the book, Don't Start a Revolution Without Me?

00:33:26.000 Well, as a wake-up call.

00:33:28.000 I actually, with two New York Times bestsellers, I got paid great front money and all that to do those books.

00:33:35.000 This book I did with none.

00:33:36.000 I wanted to do it down in Mexico with Dick Russell.

00:33:40.000 And we got together every week and we'd work on it and I wanted it to be more of a message and a wake-up call to try to wake up the United States of America that the two-party system is corrupt.

00:33:52.000 And that the two-party system that you have to change the system in which to change the government.

00:33:58.000 And we've got to wake up to that fact because if we don't, uh... we could very much lose the republic because that's what thomas jefferson warned about that's what john adams warned about that political parties would uh... would eventually strangle the republic because decisions would be made on behalf of the political party not on behalf of the republic and that's what we're getting today uh... interesting case in point to you don't look i'd back to nine eleven a little

00:34:26.000 I find it very interesting that the Whitewater investigation, which, you know, in the end, all it did was turn up that the President cheated on his wife with an intern, they spent $100 million on that.

00:34:36.000 spent $100 million on that.

00:34:39.000 For 9/11, they only spent $9 million.

00:34:44.000 And I find that peculiar that thousands of people were killed and won, and nobody died.

00:34:51.000 The other one that I know of, they couldn't prove, maybe one person did, I guess they talk about it, but they spent a hundred million dollars to investigate that.

00:34:59.000 What do you think of Barack Obama and Hillary wanting socialized health care and Barack Obama saying we need to have the government control how many calories we eat.

00:35:08.000 I mean if you think the nanny state's bad with San Francisco saying you can't drink bottled water and most cities banning smoking cigarettes even outside.

00:35:16.000 They're now not letting people smoke in their own houses in some cities.

00:35:19.000 Cops are getting fired who get caught and reported by other officers for smoking cigars on their bass boat.

00:35:25.000 I'm sure you've heard about those cases.

00:35:27.000 What do you think of the nanny state that's being pushed by the Democrats?

00:35:30.000 Well, and that's just as bad.

00:35:31.000 You know, I know that I come down hard on the Republicans probably a great deal more because they're in power right now, but the Democrats will be no better.

00:35:41.000 In fact, they will be even worse because Democrats, they want no liberties for you at all, hardly.

00:35:48.000 They want everything government-controlled.

00:35:50.000 I remember when I ran for governor, Hubert Skip Humphrey, no matter what subject came up during the race, he had a government program waiting to take care of it.

00:36:02.000 And it was like I looked at him at one point and said, Skip, who pays for all this, you know?

00:36:07.000 Government laws and moral laws.

00:36:09.000 What people need to understand, Alex, is that every time a legislature passes a law, there's a money tag with that.

00:36:17.000 It costs money to implement that law.

00:36:20.000 Well, what?

00:36:21.000 As a chief executive of a state or country or whatever, you have to do it.

00:36:25.000 You can't arbitrarily, to yourself, go, well, this is a stupid damn law.

00:36:30.000 I won't implement it.

00:36:31.000 You're not given that ability.

00:36:33.000 Absolutely.

00:36:34.000 Folks, find out more about his new best-selling book.

00:36:37.000 It went out for about a month.

00:36:37.000 It's already a best-seller.

00:36:39.000 Up on InfoWars.com, we have links through to where you can get.

00:36:42.000 Jesse Venturis, don't start the revolution without me.

00:36:45.000 Governor, I'm not trying to press you because I know you haven't made the decision yet, but what are you leaning towards?

00:36:51.000 I mean, I guess you're saying we're going to find out if you're going to run for the Minnesota seat for the U.S.

00:36:56.000 Senate, we're going to find out... In July.

00:36:58.000 We're going to find out in July, and right now... July is when filing takes place, and see, I won't just, if I run, I won't just run to win.

00:37:07.000 I'll run to set an example to turn around America, and that will be this.

00:37:12.000 Whenever I run for office, I do not spend more money than what the office will pay me.

00:37:17.000 I did it as governor.

00:37:21.000 I only raised $300,000.

00:37:24.000 I was paid $480,000.

00:37:25.000 And you know why I do that?

00:37:27.000 Because of what my dad said to me when I was a kid.

00:37:30.000 When I was a little kid growing up, my dad was a World War II vet, 8th grade education.

00:37:35.000 But he gets smarter every day.

00:37:38.000 And he said to me one day, he said, you know, all politicians are crooks.

00:37:42.000 And I said, Dad, come on, how can you say that, a blanket statement like that?

00:37:47.000 And he said, easy.

00:37:48.000 He said, because they spend a million dollars for a job that pays 100 grand a year.

00:37:53.000 Absolutely.

00:37:56.000 That's what one of my grandpas would always say.

00:37:58.000 And so I make it a point that when I run for office, I do not spend more money than what I will make.

00:38:05.000 Now as a U.S.

00:38:06.000 Senator, I will make close to $950,000 through the course of that.

00:38:11.000 six-year thing.

00:38:13.000 So that means I could probably spend about three-quarters of a million to get the job.

00:38:17.000 But I will not spend over that.

00:38:19.000 And, you know, if I do it, I'll decide in July, because I believe these campaigns are far too long and far too expensive.

00:38:27.000 Well, we need you also during this national election cycle to be injecting sanity, and that will up your profile if you run for Senate.

00:38:34.000 I think it's a no-brainer.

00:38:36.000 I'm begging you to do it.

00:38:37.000 We need you to do this, Governor.

00:38:39.000 The problem is though, Alex, is that I have to do it.

00:38:42.000 Then you can't go surfing.

00:38:43.000 That's right.

00:38:44.000 Then I can't go down to Baja and watch sunsets down there and take my surfboard out and throw it down as I try to learn how to do it.

00:38:51.000 Absolute heaven down there.

00:38:53.000 I certainly envy you down there.

00:38:55.000 There's no one watching over me.

00:38:57.000 No Big Brother is down there.

00:38:59.000 Do you know what I also do with all my new vehicles?

00:39:02.000 I disconnect that OnStar.

00:39:04.000 Absolutely.

00:39:05.000 People think that they can track you anywhere you go if you've got that hooked up on your vehicle.

00:39:12.000 Governor, I want to run through a bunch of questions quickly because we're almost out of time.

00:39:16.000 Government drug dealing.

00:39:17.000 They had a CIA aircraft right at four tons of pure cocaine, showing it came from the source.

00:39:22.000 One of the CIA rendition flights, same plane, CIA owned, crashed in Yucatan Peninsula, nothing on our press all over the foreign press with the c_i_a_ pilot killed the people on board filled with pure cocaine now should we decriminalize drugs a and b uh...

00:39:39.000 the experts i've had on here believe that over eighty five percent of all narcotics is brought in and licensed by the government well i think absolutely we should be criminalize it because of the fact that when i was in mexico virginia packet thing happened and the headlines in mexico said u_s_a_ thirty three mexico twenty Because that day there were 20 people killed in the war on drugs on the border.

00:40:02.000 Only differences theirs happens every day.

00:40:04.000 And now it's spread all the way up into Indiana, up into Dallas.

00:40:08.000 Quote, military, our government trained are now, quote, helping the Mexican drug cartels.

00:40:13.000 I don't know anything about that.

00:40:16.000 Oh, yeah, that was finally in the Houston Chronicle.

00:40:19.000 Uh...

00:40:20.000 Just a side issue, I know he's your buddy, I know you've been in some films with him, like Running Man and Predator, and I know you're a loyal person, but Schwarzenegger, you talk about big government, gun control, on a lot of these issues, what do you think of the job Schwarzenegger's done as governor?

00:40:37.000 Well, remember this.

00:40:38.000 Arnold is not a true Republican.

00:40:41.000 Arnold is very liberal on the social issues, much like I am.

00:40:45.000 I don't care about gay marriage.

00:40:47.000 It's none of my business.

00:40:48.000 Things of that nature.

00:40:49.000 And remember, Arnold's also a populist.

00:40:54.000 He tried the hardline Republican position in California and he got hammered.

00:40:58.000 His popularity went down the toilet, so he made a turn.

00:41:02.000 And now he's doing things that apparently the Californians are more popular with.

00:41:07.000 But what about gun control?

00:41:09.000 Arnold is not a dummy.

00:41:11.000 Arnold knows where his bread gets buttered depending on what he's doing.

00:41:14.000 Yeah, but you could do that too.

00:41:16.000 You could go without the bread's buttered and probably be president.

00:41:18.000 I mean there is a difference here.

00:41:20.000 You're not for gun control.

00:41:22.000 You're not for drug criminalization.

00:41:24.000 Arnold is.

00:41:25.000 Well, I don't think Arnold's for drug criminalization, is he?

00:41:29.000 Because he's not bothering the pot shops out there for the medical stuff.

00:41:33.000 He lets the feds come in and go after him.

00:41:34.000 He hasn't been trying to repeal these drug laws.

00:41:38.000 But the point is, he can't stop the feds anyway.

00:41:41.000 Federal jurisdiction takes priority over state.

00:41:44.000 Otherwise, if I was governor, I could stop our National Guard people from going to Iraq.

00:41:50.000 They don't have that power.

00:41:51.000 I have never talked to him since he took office.

00:41:58.000 That may be true, but I haven't spoken to him at all.

00:42:06.000 I stopped by one time when I was giving a speech in Sacramento, and he had already gone home, you know, back to L.A.

00:42:13.000 And so he wasn't in that day.

00:42:15.000 I just left a note for him and gave my best regards, and I haven't talked or heard from him since.

00:42:23.000 Talking about the police state, all over the country now, they don't just do breathalyzers, they're taking blood at checkpoints from Illinois to Texas, from Arizona to New York State.

00:42:34.000 They're now having, quote, federalization drills where they get tens of thousands of police in three, four state areas to randomly search pedestrians now, not just cars, set up checkpoints.

00:42:45.000 What's your take on that?

00:42:47.000 Well, if it's true, we're in tough shape.

00:42:50.000 The only thing I can comment on is what goes on in my life, and I am concerned because when I crossed the border this year, inside the border was a second immigration checkpoint.

00:43:01.000 Well, according to the Constitution of the United States, once I show at the border that I'm a U.S.

00:43:06.000 citizen, I should not be required or be asked any type of identification as I travel throughout the continental United States.

00:43:14.000 And now they're building those deeper and deeper, over 100 miles in, and they're going after citizens.

00:43:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:20.000 Everybody, like the car in front of me, I saw the people showing passports, and they were from California.

00:43:26.000 Well, for some reason, they waved me through, because I turned to my wife and I go, I am not, I'm going to see if the Constitution protects me.

00:43:34.000 I will not show these people anything, even though they're immigration.

00:43:38.000 What happened?

00:43:38.000 I know.

00:43:39.000 What happened?

00:43:41.000 Governor, what happened to my license?

00:43:41.000 Governor?

00:43:42.000 way than you show your driver's license.

00:43:45.000 But as a US citizen, I am not required to show anything as I travel throughout the country.

00:43:51.000 The Constitution guarantees me that.

00:43:53.000 - Governor, what happened when you stay? - Oh, for some reason, I don't get waved through.

00:44:01.000 Every time they don't question or do anything, I get waved through.

00:44:05.000 So I don't get a chance to really turn them down because they never ask me for anything.

00:44:10.000 But it is racial profiling, because I happen to have blue eyes.

00:44:14.000 That might be part of the reason I'm waved through.

00:44:18.000 Unbelievable.

00:44:20.000 Governor, we have a little bit of issue with the line.

00:44:21.000 Can you hear me?

00:44:22.000 Sure.

00:44:23.000 Okay, good.

00:44:23.000 We went to backup there.

00:44:25.000 I'm in Texas, there in Minnesota.

00:44:26.000 This only happens, we got a huge guest on with us.

00:44:31.000 Governor, In closing, with the three or four minutes we've got left, other points, other key issues that you want to impart, anything else on 9-11, anything else you want to talk about with the future of this republic?

00:44:41.000 Well, you know, the main thing I want to talk about is the fact that we better wake up, and we better pay attention, and not to believe everything that the status quo tells you, because they're not necessarily talking the truth, and I'm finding that out more and more and more, and I personally have no trust in the government anymore, because they've been so deceitful to me on everything.

00:45:06.000 And that we've got to change.

00:45:06.000 It seems.

00:45:09.000 And I think the other thing I'd like to bring out is this.

00:45:12.000 Having lived outside of the United States now for three years in a row for half a year, my belief is that you're not a world power by carrying a club and beating everyone up.

00:45:24.000 And our status throughout the world has dropped dramatically now.

00:45:28.000 The most popular t-shirt you see in Mexico amongst young people now is a photo of George Bush and it says, Weapon of Mass Destruction.

00:45:38.000 And I really don't think it should be part of as the United States and it's time for us to change direction.

00:45:45.000 So when Obama says about talking to our enemies, I see nothing wrong with that because it should be the last option.

00:45:54.000 War should never be the first option, is what we've made it today.

00:45:57.000 Well, you're right, Governor.

00:45:58.000 Our name has been destroyed, and these so-called conservatives that still support the war, A. they're against the will of the people, only 30% support the war still, and B. they have bankrupted us, the dollar's being devalued, inflation is in double digits, the Federal Reserve's denying it, but oil just went to $130 a barrel today.

00:46:19.000 $130 a barrel.

00:46:21.000 Did I tell you my take on oil?

00:46:23.000 No, sir.

00:46:24.000 I think this is what's happening on oil.

00:46:27.000 I think they're driving the price up to battle the environmentalists.

00:46:31.000 I think they want to get drilling in Alaska, they want to get offshore drilling.

00:46:36.000 This is a ploy by the oil companies, in my opinion, to drive the price up to where the American people will say it's $5 a gallon, I don't care about the environment, drill, I've got to have my gas.

00:46:48.000 Well, that's a part of it, I think, but largely the dollar has been devalued.

00:46:52.000 Oil is dollar denominated, and so if the dollar's been devalued by more than half, oil's going to double.

00:46:58.000 Oh yeah, got that in too.

00:46:59.000 Very good point.

00:47:01.000 Very good point.

00:47:04.000 I noticed that in Minnesota, because we had some of our local guys that work at the network came out and shot some video of you talking, and you wouldn't address the press, but you would address them.

00:47:13.000 Why were you not talking to the mainstream press?

00:47:19.000 I've made it my personal vendetta that I never speak to them again because when I was in the office, they attacked my children.

00:47:28.000 And so the only way I can fight back is to not talk to them, not make them money.

00:47:33.000 And so I speak to the open press in Boston, I speak to them in L.A., everywhere else, but I will not speak to the Minnesota media, because it's my personal vendetta against them, and you know us Navy SEALs, we don't get nothing even.

00:47:49.000 That's our thing.

00:47:51.000 And so my only way of getting even with them is to not speak to them.

00:47:56.000 That's why I did speak to your people, but unpurposely I do not speak to them.

00:48:01.000 And it is because they attack my kids.

00:48:03.000 My son refuses to live in Minnesota now.

00:48:06.000 Governor Ventura, I want to say one more word to you during the break and then let you go.

00:48:09.000 I really appreciate you spending time with us.

00:48:12.000 The book is on the bestseller list.

00:48:13.000 We need to make it even bigger.

00:48:15.000 It is Don't Start the Revolution Without Me, Governor Jesse Ventura.

00:48:18.000 We'll be right back.

00:48:22.000 That's our thing.

00:48:23.000 And so my only way of getting even with them is to not speak to them.

00:48:28.000 That's why I did speak to your people, but unpurposely I do not speak to them.

00:48:33.000 And it is because they attack my kids.

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00:51:42.000 Alright ladies and gentlemen for those of you that just joined us this is live breaking news.

00:52:01.000 What appears to be disinfo was put out as they always do that they'd already met as they meet in May or early June in Grease.

00:52:11.000 Jim Tucker, been covering him for 35 years on the ground, the father of exposing the global elite and the secret shadowy cabal that runs our society.

00:52:19.000 The media just 10 years ago did not even exist.

00:52:22.000 He has confirmed that it is in Chantilly, Virginia.

00:52:26.000 They met in Istanbul, Turkey last year.

00:52:28.000 125 of the world's movers and shakers.

00:52:31.000 He believes they're meeting here in the United States where they don't normally meet because there's a better media blackout because our press is more controlled.

00:52:40.000 So Jim, just to recap, go over all the evidence, why you think this is another ruse.

00:52:45.000 Again, he's got them 35 years straight, never been defeated.

00:52:48.000 Sometimes they find out the day of, though.

00:52:50.000 It goes on for three days.

00:52:52.000 You have a source inside Bilderberg who's involved that's confirmed it.

00:52:57.000 And so you're 100% on where it's being held.

00:53:00.000 Go over your evidence, Jim Tucker.

00:53:04.000 Well, they did have me nervous and ready to grab another pair of socks when they talked about the place that they had met in Greece a few years ago being all filled up and so forth, but they could not tell me there were armed guards outside the gates.

00:53:19.000 Although I was ready to grab another pair of socks and run, but I had some doubts about it, and I called three people.

00:53:28.000 Well, the secretaries are three people who always attend Bilderberg meetings under a ruse and social Uh, and they were all going to be in Washington that weekend, so I stayed here, becoming very doubtful.

00:53:42.000 And then, uh, when we got this thing from a Japanese chap telling us that the, uh, that it came off of the, uh, uh, Dutch website for domestic consumption, or inside the house website, uh, saying, uh, that it would be in Chantilly.

00:54:04.000 Then I called the Dutch Embassy, and they bounced me back to the embassy of the United States, which specifically confirmed Chantilly.

00:54:12.000 I asked the question twice to make sure there's no misunderstanding, a routine of mine.

00:54:18.000 They're definitely at the Westfields.

00:54:20.000 Then a man who's an international financial consultant who knows a lot of Bilderberg people personally, he got interested about 20 years ago when I showed him a recent list 20 years ago of participants.

00:54:33.000 I know this guy.

00:54:34.000 I've got to do business with him, and he's always so much fun.

00:54:37.000 He has helped us locate Bilderberg many times.

00:54:40.000 Obviously, I can't give his name, but there's one time when there were...

00:54:48.000 Uh, meeting in some European city.

00:54:50.000 We knew the city for sure.

00:54:51.000 We knew the dates for sure.

00:54:52.000 This precise location, we did not know.

00:54:54.000 I'm at the, uh, press club with my other pair of socks back waiting to take a shuttle to, uh, Dulles Airport when he called and, uh, named the precise place, uh, precise location.

00:55:09.000 I called the newspaper back and they were able to redo page one to put in the precise location.

00:55:15.000 And there's other times when he's been very helpful.

00:55:17.000 He has also talked to his Billerberg buddy, who gave us additional confirmation just this morning that Chantilly is the scene of the crime.

00:55:31.000 And I'm hoping a lot of your listeners and our readers at American Free Press will show up to help, make up for the loss, for the lack of help we'll get from the...

00:55:41.000 Oh, I'm going to be there.

00:55:43.000 Good.

00:55:44.000 You can absolutely be assured of that, Jim.

00:55:46.000 And I will...

00:55:48.000 You're sure you're going to be staying at the Hilton Hinden?

00:55:53.000 Okay, let me... Jim, let me do this.

00:55:57.000 When are you going to be at the officer home today?

00:55:59.000 And I'll call and confer like we did last time when I went with you to Canada.

00:56:03.000 Okay, it's going to be on our website today, including my check-in to whatever hotel, and I'll be there.

00:56:09.000 Yeah, I wonder if they're going to harass me and arrest me like they did when I went to Canada inside the U.S.

00:56:14.000 This is going to be fun.

00:56:15.000 Uh, I doubt if you, uh, if you don't say anything about Bilderberg on the flight, I doubt I'd stay with you.

00:56:21.000 So many flights into Dulles.

00:56:21.000 Yeah.

00:56:24.000 If they don't know why you're coming, you don't... Oh, they surveil everything we do, Jim.

00:56:29.000 Are you kidding?

00:56:30.000 I mean, because we're here fighting and destroying the country and they can't stand it.

00:56:33.000 These globalists.

00:56:35.000 Well, any other key tidbits we need to know.

00:56:37.000 So you're saying you're 100% this isn't a ruse?

00:56:41.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:56:42.000 Yes.

00:56:42.000 This is triple confirmed.

00:56:43.000 Okay, I'm going to book passage by air right now and bring my crew.

00:56:48.000 I'm going to get the telephoto lenses out.

00:56:51.000 Expanding on that, Jim Tucker, in closing, do you believe this was a planted ruse with what we saw out of the Greek news?

00:57:00.000 It's possible that some Billy Bird kid put something on the internet to lead people the wrong way.

00:57:11.000 I don't know if it's possible, because they do not like to be exposed.

00:57:15.000 As usual, they prefer... By now, they're probably aware that there will be public knowledge, the way they search Internet and so forth.

00:57:23.000 Well, this is convenient for you that you live in Virginia.

00:57:27.000 You can just get in the car and drive over.

00:57:29.000 Well, my home is in deep central Virginia.

00:57:33.000 I stay at a motel in Washington, but it is more convenient.

00:57:37.000 I'll just have to... I'll be checking into the Hilton in Herndon, Virginia, which is where I stayed the last time they were here.

00:57:47.000 It's the closest motel to the scene of the crime, and it's also the cheapest.

00:57:53.000 It's $270 plus taxes every day.

00:57:55.000 Good grief.

00:57:56.000 Jason Burmiss is going to be sitting in for those days while I'm there.

00:58:00.000 The excitement just continues as we cover the global crime syndicate.

00:58:04.000 Jim, so how late are you going to be at the office today so I can call you?

00:58:08.000 I really don't know.

00:58:09.000 It depends on how fast I can kick stuff out the door.

00:58:13.000 Okay, so when I call this home number, that's in another part of Virginia.

00:58:17.000 Yeah, and I won't be there until Let's see, Thursday afternoon.

00:58:22.000 Thursday afternoon.

00:58:23.000 But if I miss you later after the show today, you're going to be at American Free Press.

00:58:28.000 So I can just call the newspaper, or should I call you in the morning?

00:58:30.000 Well, I'll be at American Free Press.

00:58:33.000 Okay.

00:58:35.000 Jim, thank you for the update, and thank you for nailing that down there.

00:58:40.000 That's confirmed, Jim, it's never been wrong before.

00:58:44.000 Thirty-plus years you've been able to find out where they are and been able to cover it, Jim.

00:58:49.000 It's been a lot of fun, and you can be sure the Washington Post and New York Times will be there, and you'll not read a word about it.

00:59:00.000 Well, we need to have protests while we're there in front of their papers, then the free country, the cops will no doubt come and say, no demonstrations allowed without permits, and then taser us, land of the slaves, home of the cowards.

00:59:11.000 I mean, I love this country, folks, and that's what we've turned into, but I don't care.

00:59:15.000 I'm gonna, you know what, they'll probably tell me I can't videotape without a permit in this God-forsaken country, because that's why they're having it.

00:59:22.000 Well, the answer is, I'm on a public sidewalk.

00:59:25.000 I've told the cops that many times.

00:59:27.000 This is a public sidewalk, a taxpayer's sidewalk.

00:59:30.000 God, this country's gone.

00:59:31.000 This country's in so much trouble.

00:59:32.000 Folks, join us there.

00:59:34.000 This is big news, and it's the 5th through the 8th, correct?

00:59:38.000 And tell folks the name of the hotel again.

00:59:42.000 Well, Billerberg will be at the Westfields Marriott, 1475 O. Conference Center Drive in Chantilly.

00:59:48.000 We will be at the Hilton Internet, which is right next door.

00:59:55.000 And that is 13869, 13869 Park Center Road, Herndon.

01:00:03.000 And does that, uh, Hilton, have any places for me with telephoto video lenses?

01:00:08.000 Uh, the hotel we'll be staying at?

01:00:11.000 Yeah.

01:00:12.000 I mean, is that in view of the other facility?

01:00:15.000 No, you have to drive a few miles, but it's the closest one.

01:00:17.000 Yeah, I hear this one's hard to cover.

01:00:19.000 Is that true?

01:00:22.000 Yeah, well, there's been a lot of Dillberg meets where I had to get a cab or sometimes readers would be there with cars and save the company a nickel by driving.

01:00:29.000 Yeah, I'll drive you.

01:00:30.000 Don't worry, Jim.

01:00:31.000 We're going to be all over you because you're the guy that knows how to track the enemy.

01:00:35.000 All right, enemies of the republic.

01:00:36.000 Jim Tucker, I'll talk to you soon.

01:00:38.000 Very good.

01:00:39.000 There goes Jim Tucker.

01:00:40.000 I apologize to our next guest who had to hold an amazing individual.

01:00:43.000 Headline, Gun Owners Protest Police Action, Times Tribune.

01:00:47.000 This is out of Pennsylvania, Dixon City.

01:00:50.000 They were having their local gun club meet, and you know, it's open carry there, and they had their guns there, and so some snitch called the police.

01:00:57.000 There was no law, but the cops confiscated their guns, and our next guest You want to live your life as a free man and be able to say the things that are guaranteed to you under the First Amendment, then you need to be able to exercise your Second Amendment.

01:01:25.000 It ain't about hunting, and it's not even really about self-defense.

01:01:28.000 It's about protecting us from overbearing government.

01:01:32.000 And what was seen up here on Friday night was overbearing government.

01:01:36.000 When they can come in and do whatever they want, regardless of what the law says, that is overbearing government.

01:01:43.000 Okay, let's go ahead and get a feeling.

01:01:44.000 Then they've got some person groveling, going, it scares me, citizens with guns.

01:01:48.000 I only want men in black ski masks to keep me safe.

01:01:50.000 We're going to break in a moment, sir, but break down for listeners that just tuned in, what exactly happened in Pennsylvania?

01:01:57.000 Well, up in Dixon City, a group of guys from the Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association got together with their wives and children for dinner.

01:02:05.000 And they were carrying their guns openly.

01:02:07.000 I was unable to attend this particular event, although I've been to previous events.

01:02:12.000 And somebody got scared and called the police.

01:02:15.000 And when the police showed up, things got kind of rough.

01:02:20.000 Yeah, I mean, slaves aren't armed.

01:02:22.000 You don't have slaves outside slave quarters and you don't have them with weapons.

01:02:26.000 This was scary to the other slaves.

01:02:30.000 Well, it was certainly scary to somebody because they called the police and then, you know, they have the right to call the police for that.

01:02:35.000 And the police have the right to come out.

01:02:37.000 But once they got there and ascertained the situation, that's when they should have said, have a nice dinner and walked away.

01:02:42.000 But they didn't because they saw their slaves armed.

01:02:46.000 What happened?

01:02:47.000 Well, what happened was they asked for identification.

01:02:50.000 They started hauling people out of the restaurant right in the middle of their dinner.

01:02:54.000 And one of the men who's been very active in our group here and in the movement for Open Carry was asked to produce ID.

01:03:04.000 When you are on foot in Pennsylvania, you only have to give a verbal ID.

01:03:10.000 Yeah, it's right to refuse.

01:03:11.000 You don't have to print your papers.

01:03:12.000 Yeah, right.

01:03:12.000 If there's a Supreme Court ruling out of Pennsylvania, one out of Austin, Texas too, but they don't care.

01:03:16.000 Stay there, sir.

01:03:17.000 We'll come back and hear what transpired there.

01:03:17.000 Quick break.

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01:07:37.000 I'm going to Virginia to cover Bilderberg.

01:07:39.000 Can't turn that down.

01:07:41.000 Spook Central.

01:07:42.000 Well, I'm gonna have my room, my door barricaded at night.

01:07:46.000 They love to kill you in Virginia, boy.

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01:07:53.000 Shifting gears, ladies and gentlemen.

01:07:56.000 Big show today.

01:07:57.000 We had Jesse Ventura on for 15 minutes and Jim Tucker.

01:07:59.000 Now we've got Bill Grumbine who stood up for the Second Amendment, spoke out with the City Council and talked about it.

01:08:06.000 Okay, tell us what happened, sir.

01:08:09.000 Well, the original event was all these folks having dinner, and the police came and rousted them out of the restaurant in the middle of their meal.

01:08:17.000 Then, one of my friends, as I mentioned, was arrested for being unwilling to give information that he was not required by law to give.

01:08:27.000 He identified himself verbally, but that wasn't good enough for the police officer, and they cuffed him and threw him in the car.

01:08:35.000 They also threatened his wife, who was videotaping the event, that if she didn't shut off her recorder, she could be arrested, too.

01:08:41.000 So, you know, they were going for the First and Second Amendment that night.

01:08:46.000 One of the other men had a gun taken from him, and a number of people had their guns taken from them, and they were run through the imaginary illegal database that the Pennsylvania State Police maintain.

01:09:00.000 It's not supposed to be there.

01:09:01.000 There isn't supposed to be a record of our firearms.

01:09:04.000 When they take people's guns and run the serial numbers, I don't know what kind of record they're checking, and since they don't have this thing, but they are checking them.

01:09:12.000 So with no probable cause, they then also engage in a Fourth Amendment violation, raping.

01:09:17.000 Well, they pretty much did that, yeah.

01:09:23.000 Gotta hurt America.

01:09:24.000 They let everybody go.

01:09:25.000 I mean, they let Rich go.

01:09:28.000 They still have his one gun.

01:09:30.000 They didn't give that back to him yet.

01:09:31.000 So we're waiting to see what the outcome of that is.

01:09:36.000 Now, you were at the city council meeting, weren't you?

01:09:38.000 Yes, I did go to that.

01:09:41.000 Yeah, and I mean, the people going, I'm afraid of citizens with guns.

01:09:45.000 I mean, how do we get this pathetic?

01:09:48.000 I mean, here in Texas, you can drive, the law says you can drive around with your rifle in your gun rack, but you don't do that.

01:09:54.000 They'll SWAT team you, you get killed half the time.

01:09:56.000 I mean, there's billboards up everywhere saying report illegal guns.

01:09:59.000 with pictures of revolvers and rifles, so when a carpet cleaner's in your house, it happened to me, they call the cops on you.

01:10:05.000 I mean, they think guns are illegal in Texas, and all these folks from New York and California are moving here, and they see you putting a deer rifle in the back of your truck to go hunting, they call the cops.

01:10:13.000 And the cops go ahead and come out.

01:10:15.000 I mean, this is scary when we can't even follow the law.

01:10:18.000 Well, it is scary, and what it is is people are transferring an irrational fear to an inanimate object.

01:10:25.000 When I was a kid, back in the 70s, we used to bring our guns to school.

01:10:29.000 Same thing with my dad, yeah.

01:10:31.000 Yeah, my own brother, my younger brother, was on the rifle team.

01:10:35.000 And he carried his .22 caliber rifle on the school bus.

01:10:40.000 And all the bus drivers said to him was just make sure it's not loaded before you get on.

01:10:44.000 And then magically, magically, now we take the guns out of schools and we have mass shootings.

01:10:49.000 Go ahead.

01:10:50.000 Yes, but can you imagine today if some kid got on the school bus with a .22 rifle to take it to school for the shooting team?

01:10:57.000 They'd call the army out.

01:10:59.000 They'd shut down half the city.

01:11:01.000 There'd be guys in black uniforms running around like an anthill had been overturned.

01:11:06.000 But one of our goals is open carry.

01:11:08.000 First of all, we're exercising our rights.

01:11:10.000 It's like a muscle.

01:11:11.000 If you don't exercise it, it's going to atrophy and it's going to go away.

01:11:16.000 But the other thing we want to do is we want people to learn that there are many many thousands of us out there who are normal everyday family men, family women.

01:11:26.000 And that makes crime go down.

01:11:27.000 And what you're saying is key because I've said I should do what you're doing, but I pick my battles.

01:11:34.000 I, if I'm going to go to the shooting range now, pull the car up to the garage and look around, because the chicken-necked, cowardly, domesticated public will call a SWAT team on me if they see a gun.

01:11:43.000 That's how enslaved we are here in Texas.

01:11:46.000 Same thing in Pennsylvania, obviously.

01:11:48.000 And you're right, because we haven't shown our guns like we used to, we let them cower us, and the cops harassed us into this, that we're going to lose it all now.

01:11:59.000 No, we're working real hard to make sure that doesn't happen.

01:12:01.000 And there are quite a few police that do know the law.

01:12:05.000 In fact, we have one gentleman involved in our group who is the assistant chief in a neighboring municipality up there.

01:12:11.000 It would have been nice if he could have been there that night.

01:12:16.000 It would be interesting to see what would happen if they were arresting him.

01:12:19.000 Well, I know that in polls, the most pro-gun group in the country are police, but they still get bonuses and, you know, extra money for, you know, quote, stopping gun crime, but that gun crime is citizens doing nothing, and what did you think about the groveling locals going, I'm scared of guns, I'm scared, you know, they like cops with guns, but not us with guns.

01:12:43.000 Well, there's not much you can do about somebody being scared of something.

01:12:47.000 It's like people being scared of spiders and snakes, except try and educate them.

01:12:51.000 But I think what has to happen with our public officials is they can say, yes, we understand you're scared, but no, those people aren't doing anything wrong.

01:12:59.000 Stay there, stay there.

01:13:00.000 Three minute break, sir.

01:13:01.000 Let me come back with five minutes with you on the other side, just so you can finish up.

01:13:04.000 Tell folks about your group in Pennsylvania.

01:13:06.000 Maybe our listeners can come join you.

01:13:08.000 What you're doing, we all owe you a debt for, sir.

01:13:11.000 Absolutely.

01:13:11.000 Because they're creating a perception that guns are already illegal.

01:13:15.000 They're brainwashing the public.

01:13:16.000 We'll be right back.

01:13:18.000 We're on the march.

01:13:19.000 The Empire's on the run.

01:13:20.000 I talked to Alex Jones and the GCA.

01:13:23.000 I think what has to happen with our public officials is they can say, yes, we understand you're scared, but no, those people aren't doing anything wrong.

01:13:31.000 Stay there, stay there.

01:13:32.000 Three minute break, sir.

01:13:33.000 Let me come back with five minutes with you on the other side, just so you can finish up.

01:13:36.000 Tell folks about your group in Pennsylvania.

01:13:38.000 Maybe our listeners can come join you.

01:13:40.000 What you're doing, we all owe you a debt for, sir.

01:13:43.000 Uh, absolutely.

01:13:44.000 Because they're creating a perception that guns are already illegal.

01:13:47.000 They're brainwashing the public.

01:13:48.000 We'll be right back.

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01:17:00.000 It's out there.

01:17:01.000 It ain't me.

01:17:03.000 It ain't me, no.

01:17:06.000 I ain't no sin of this, son.

01:17:10.000 All right, we're going to be talking to Cody Dietz and Sam Lugolo.

01:17:16.000 We are change.

01:17:18.000 Who went to the NRA convention of all places.

01:17:25.000 They're pro-gun, by the way.

01:17:27.000 Asked Oliver North about the FEMA camp programs he ran, the Senate hearings.

01:17:31.000 And they had him tackled and arrested with trespasses, and then they stole their equipment.

01:17:36.000 Then we got Aaron Zellman, Jewish Preservation Firearms Ownership, kind of a Second Amendment theme today, about the incredible attacks on the Second Amendment that are happening everywhere.

01:17:43.000 That's coming up.

01:17:44.000 Finishing up with Bill Grumbine, who's part of the local Second Amendment group that wears their guns openly.

01:17:52.000 Now understand, my dad's only 58 years old, and he would go into a pretty big sized school with a shotgun to go hunting with the coaches after school, order the rifle club, take his rifle.

01:18:05.000 Big cities, just until a decade ago, New York City had a gun club, and they weren't afraid of it yet, and people were taught it.

01:18:13.000 Now you have these domesticated people that are scared to death of guns.

01:18:16.000 I've told the story of one of my dad's friends who works for a major magazine.

01:18:20.000 I'll just put it, I'll leave it at that.

01:18:21.000 He's the editor of the National Magazine.

01:18:24.000 And this was back in college when I kept my guns in my parents' gun safe.

01:18:27.000 I didn't live with them.

01:18:28.000 I moved out when I was 18.

01:18:29.000 But, you know, I was going over to their house to get the guns.

01:18:32.000 And I was walking out with a rifle, and it was in a case, but he acted real scared and freaked out as I walked by the living room.

01:18:39.000 He goes, is that a gun?

01:18:41.000 It was like a King Cobra or a mingled tiger was running around in the house, and the guy's smart and not brain-dead, even lives in Texas, shouldn't be so stupid.

01:18:52.000 And I go put it up, and I go, what's the big deal?

01:18:54.000 And my dad goes, oh, come on.

01:18:56.000 He goes and gets his revolver, and he shows it.

01:18:58.000 He goes, look, it's unloaded.

01:18:59.000 Come on, get over your fear.

01:19:04.000 And he's like, come on, you don't get scared when you see a cop with a gun, do you?

01:19:07.000 And he goes, look, just please get it out of here.

01:19:10.000 It's irrational, but they see billboards saying reported illegal guns, they watch the shows, the drama shows, the fiction shows based in New York, in Boston, in Chicago, in L.A.

01:19:20.000 where they have basic gun bans, and the people think guns are all banned.

01:19:24.000 And so they're just like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

01:19:30.000 I mean, how these men raise their daughters and sons and let them leave the house and never teach them how to have a gun.

01:19:37.000 You know, so that they can defend themselves.

01:19:38.000 These women get raped, they get killed, they always call 911 and go, he just busted in!

01:19:42.000 No, don't kill me!

01:19:44.000 And they rape them and kill them, and then they leave.

01:19:47.000 The average time is 11 minutes by the time they get there.

01:19:49.000 I mean, you should be historically scared of armored vehicles, face-scanning cameras, cops running around in black uniforms running warrantless checkpoints.

01:19:57.000 That, historically, is what's dangerous.

01:19:59.000 Not citizens with guns.

01:20:01.000 And I want more citizens with guns.

01:20:03.000 Kennesaw, Georgia had the highest crime rate in Georgia.

01:20:05.000 Said everybody had to own a gun by law.

01:20:07.000 Crime rate dropped by 95%.

01:20:08.000 That's main government numbers.

01:20:11.000 Look at the cesspits.

01:20:12.000 New York, Chicago, wherever they have a gun ban, they have the highest crime rates.

01:20:16.000 Three, four times anywhere else.

01:20:19.000 I'm going to shut up and go to our guest and let him finish up.

01:20:21.000 Bill Grumbine, we commend you for what you're doing.

01:20:24.000 How do folks in Pennsylvania get involved with your group, wear their guns openly?

01:20:29.000 Well, anybody can walk out the door as long as they're walking in where they're going openly.

01:20:34.000 In Pennsylvania, you do not need to have any kind of license or permit from the government.

01:20:39.000 If you are going to get into a vehicle with your loaded gun, though, at that point you need a license to carry firearms.

01:20:47.000 How do you move your guns around then?

01:20:49.000 Or do they say it's going to be locked in the trunk, but they still take a jail for that, like Texas or what?

01:20:55.000 Well, there are certain technicalities that have to be observed.

01:20:58.000 If you don't have a permit, you've got to be, or I shouldn't say permit, I should say licensed to carry firearms.

01:21:02.000 If you don't have that, you need to be traveling to or from a range or a gun dealer or something like that.

01:21:09.000 But, um, if you want to carry your gun concealed or transport in a vehicle loaded, uh, then you need your license to carry firearms.

01:21:17.000 The best place to get all the details rather than have me try to give out all Pennsylvania law would be, uh, www.pafoa.org.

01:21:27.000 That's the Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association.

01:21:31.000 For those of your listeners who are not in Pennsylvania but want to find out what their own state laws are, they can go to www.handgunlaw.us.

01:21:42.000 And then there's also... Now give out your local contact point.

01:21:47.000 Another local contact point would be www.paopencarry.org.

01:21:54.000 PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopencarry.org PAopen And that's what they are.

01:22:16.000 They're chicken-necked, cowardly slaves that want us all to live in fear like they do behind ten bolted doors.

01:22:22.000 They won't even fight with a baseball bat as their wife's raped in front of them.

01:22:25.000 I see these cases all the time.

01:22:26.000 These aren't men.

01:22:27.000 These are cowardly pieces of filth.

01:22:29.000 And I'm sorry.

01:22:30.000 They're coming after our guns.

01:22:31.000 They're brainwashing our kids.

01:22:33.000 We've got to turn it around.

01:22:34.000 How do people come out and help your local group defend the flagging Second Amendment?

01:22:39.000 Well, the first thing they can do is get their license to carry firearms.

01:22:42.000 They can take a class on how to handle that weapon appropriately, and then they can join our website, join the discussion.

01:22:48.000 The website is growing tremendously.

01:22:52.000 We've got more and more people from all over the state getting to know one another, making friendships, eating dinner together out, and showing the flag as they say, which is our gun.

01:23:04.000 Letting people know that we're normal, regular people, and we're just exercising our rights in a normal, regular way.

01:23:11.000 And the more we can do that, the less weird it becomes for those people who aren't used to seeing it.

01:23:17.000 You know, think of the first time that people saw somebody with orange hair walking down the road.

01:23:21.000 Now nobody pays any attention to them.

01:23:24.000 When they see enough people carrying guns that are normal, regular, law-abiding citizens, it won't be so bad anymore.

01:23:31.000 Yeah, I have a little...

01:23:32.000 The bad guys...

01:23:33.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.

01:23:34.000 No, I mean, I have a little instant-access pistol safe.

01:23:36.000 I noticed they moved things around here and set a cabinet over it, and I hadn't thought about that in the last month, and I just noticed it took me a while to get to it.

01:23:42.000 But, you know, I'm showing people right now, watching on the TV feed, you know, my evil 357 Magnum 7 shot, And I have a lot more sophisticated, you know, complex semi-automatic handguns than rivals.

01:23:54.000 But this is for if some nut comes in my office.

01:23:58.000 It doesn't malfunction very often.

01:23:59.000 It's very easy.

01:24:00.000 It's very accurate.

01:24:01.000 It's also a strong, you know, very strong round.

01:24:04.000 And this is to defend me.

01:24:06.000 It's not that I'm a, you know, someone who wants violence or is crazy or any of this.

01:24:10.000 It's that I have the responsibility to defend myself and my employees, and I have a couple of them.

01:24:17.000 Well, that's exactly right.

01:24:19.000 And I said that up there at that council meeting.

01:24:21.000 We don't want to use our guns to shoot people any more than somebody else wants to use the airbag in their car or the fire extinguisher in their house.

01:24:29.000 But if it's there, and you need it, you need it.

01:24:32.000 And if it's not there, it's not going to help you, and it's going to be too late.

01:24:38.000 Absolutely, and people need to get familiar with these.

01:24:40.000 If you're not a gun owner, you need to go out, buy a revolver first, probably a revolver 22 is what I would start on for an adult, for children, single shot bolt action, you know, Marlins or Remington, and go out and practice shooting.

01:24:55.000 But go out and take some classes at a local gun range, take three or four of them, learn the basic safety, and then go out and start shooting at least once a month, folks.

01:25:04.000 And it's such a feeling of security that if somebody comes to my house with my family, they're dead.

01:25:10.000 I've got three instant access pistol safes because I have children.

01:25:13.000 And it takes me about three seconds to get to my gun in my house.

01:25:17.000 And you need to, every few weeks, remember to go get in there, practice your safety case number to get into it fast, and defend yourself.

01:25:26.000 And if somebody breaks into your office with a weapon in your home, just draw down on them and defend yourself.

01:25:33.000 That's what this country was built on, not being a bunch of peasant slaves from Europe, or peasant slaves from China, who have no history of being able to defend themselves.

01:25:41.000 Our ancestors, who were slaves in Europe under feudalism, could not arm themselves.

01:25:46.000 Only the lords and the nobility and their enforcers could.

01:25:48.000 And the Magna Carta in 1215, that a lot of our ancestors fought and died for, is what began what became our Second Amendment.

01:25:56.000 And the war started in Lexington and Concord when they came for our Second Amendment.

01:26:00.000 And I just want to commend you and thank you for all that you've done, sir, and for coming on with us.

01:26:04.000 Well, thank you very much.

01:26:05.000 It was good to be here.

01:26:06.000 Any other local websites you want to give out?

01:26:08.000 Oh, that should do it.

01:26:11.000 Once they get to those places, they can find plenty more where they can get more information.

01:26:16.000 Thank you for spending time with us, sir.

01:26:18.000 Take care.

01:26:20.000 All right, there he goes, ladies and gentlemen.

01:26:23.000 Apologize to our other guests, we kind of got backed up today.

01:26:25.000 We've got more big guests, two more guests.

01:26:27.000 Chuck Baldwin, head of the Constitution Party, presidential candidate coming up in the fourth hour.

01:26:31.000 Aaron Zellman in the next hour, JPFO.

01:26:33.000 Right now, let's go to Cody Dietz and Sam Logalube.

01:26:37.000 Both, we are Change Ohio.

01:26:38.000 We are Change Kentucky.

01:26:40.000 We've already had Adam Cuttington.

01:26:41.000 We are Change Kentucky on twice.

01:26:43.000 Gentlemen, continuing with the attack on the First Amendment, Freedom of the Press and Assembly, you were authorized, you had the slave cards to be there.

01:26:51.000 That wasn't enough for them.

01:26:53.000 You were assaulted.

01:26:54.000 Tell us what happened to you and you faced up against.

01:26:56.000 And I want to just add this.

01:26:58.000 I wanted to make sure my memory served, even though I already knew it.

01:27:00.000 I spent an hour last night refreshing myself on Oliver North.

01:27:03.000 This fake conservative, this monster, this pig, this hater of liberty who poses as a conservative.

01:27:09.000 I remember growing up with conservative friends.

01:27:11.000 I was conservative just worshipping Oliver North.

01:27:13.000 And I remember, you know, oh, I love Oliver North, you know, when I was like 15, 16, a young conservative.

01:27:20.000 When I found out at the time I was 18 that he really was involved in massive narcotics trafficking, he ran that.

01:27:25.000 Then I've interviewed all these DEA and CIA people that saw him dealing it.

01:27:28.000 And I mean tons, every day, tons of coke brought in.

01:27:32.000 The money they made is incredible.

01:27:34.000 The Swiss bank accounts are incredible.

01:27:36.000 I mean, the cocaine, the drugs, the putting out the crack ingredients, how to make that, the scourge, the crime it created, the non-crack heads that were murdered.

01:27:46.000 In Dallas, I remember during the crack epidemic, they'd have five, six murders a day.

01:27:49.000 I mean, the robberies, the home invasion.

01:27:51.000 I remember in the 80s, mid and late 80s in Dallas, it was a war zone.

01:27:56.000 I mean, in the nice neighborhoods, the crackheads were like zombies.

01:27:58.000 That was the CIA ingredients.

01:28:00.000 CIA, how to do it, just like they introduced LSD.

01:28:03.000 And then to learn how horrible he was, and how evil he is, and how he supports a police state, and how he wants to attack Iran, and he is just a monstrous evil demon.

01:28:14.000 And his private goons directed the police to attack these young men.

01:28:18.000 So let's bring up Cody and Sam.

01:28:20.000 We are Change Ohio.

01:28:21.000 Men, you've got the floor.

01:28:22.000 Tell us what happened.

01:28:23.000 Yeah, uh, Mr. Jones, I need my footage, Mr. Jones.

01:28:27.000 Uh, I'm not sure, I was pretty positive the police had it, but now they're claiming no involvement in the incident.

01:28:36.000 Let's see how nice you are.

01:28:37.000 You say now they claim no involvement in it.

01:28:41.000 No, no, be clear.

01:28:42.000 They initially said there was no involvement but then later retracted that and said that they did have two officers there that showed up after the initial confrontation.

01:28:54.000 So there are witnesses to harassment at the least.

01:28:57.000 I'm going to stop you right now.

01:28:58.000 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

01:29:02.000 Listen, I want you to talk about stuff, but I want you to be clear.

01:29:05.000 They took your bubble sticks, they took your memory sticks, they took your batteries, they stole them, and so we've been trained subliminally as slaves, at a subliminal level, to say, oh well now they say they never did it.

01:29:17.000 Let's be clear.

01:29:18.000 Are they lying scum?

01:29:20.000 Yes sir, they are.

01:29:21.000 They had a LMPD on their shoulder sleeves.

01:29:24.000 Now, for the listeners, what did the lying scum do?

01:29:24.000 Okay.

01:29:29.000 Well, the full interview with Officer Phil Russell is that we are ChangeOhio.com right now for the listeners to listen to.

01:29:38.000 And that's his full statement on the situation.

01:29:41.000 So you can quote him on that.

01:29:43.000 Okay, tell us what happened.

01:29:44.000 Tell us.

01:29:46.000 He basically said that they showed up later and witnessed everything.

01:29:52.000 And that they did not have the footage in their possession and they weren't sure where the footage was exactly.

01:29:58.000 But it was taken from my hand by an LMPD uniformed officer.

01:30:03.000 Now whether or not, he was telling me that there's so many different departments and organizations and that in fact the Convention Center and the NRA hire off-duty police officers to patrol their events and he was suggesting that that's what happened.

01:30:18.000 And I was mistaken.

01:30:19.000 Yeah, they're passing the buck.

01:30:20.000 It's a classic distraction op.

01:30:22.000 Probably in his desk drawer.

01:30:25.000 Okay, describe exactly what happened.

01:30:28.000 Now, we've got Sam.

01:30:30.000 Sam, you're the one that was tackled, correct?

01:30:32.000 Yes, sir.

01:30:32.000 Okay, the jackboot assaulted you.

01:30:35.000 Tell us what happened.

01:30:37.000 Okay, they were escorting us out of the building.

01:30:40.000 They told us that we had to leave.

01:30:42.000 And they said that they would let us leave peacefully.

01:30:47.000 A plainclothes officer, I did not know he was a police officer or any kind of law enforcement at the time, was walking behind me.

01:30:54.000 You didn't know a God force, a living God was behind you.

01:31:00.000 What did the living God do?

01:31:03.000 He said, give me that camera, and he tried to snatch it out of my hand while he was walking behind me.

01:31:08.000 What did you think when you, for the first time, saw a God?

01:31:14.000 I just thought, hey, I can't let this person take the camera, you know, and I jerked back on it and all of a sudden the rest of them just pounced on me.

01:31:22.000 And the one guy wrapped his arm around my neck, not choking me, but as a control measure, and they took me down to the ground.

01:31:34.000 Hardcore assault.

01:31:35.000 Hardcore assault.

01:31:37.000 Yeah, I said easy.

01:31:37.000 I mean, you tackle a cop now, they gun you down.

01:31:39.000 There was a guy in San Diego, didn't touch him, and they shot him four times.

01:31:42.000 He started trying to get back up, and they just blew him away again.

01:31:46.000 And the police are saying, we kill you now if you don't submit.

01:31:49.000 It's not just tasers.

01:31:50.000 Go ahead, tell me what the devil force did.

01:31:53.000 Okay, so they take me down to the ground, and I say, easy, easy, easy.

01:31:57.000 And then I say, I'm not resisting.

01:31:58.000 I'm not resisting, you know, because there are witnesses around.

01:32:01.000 It is a very public place, you know, as a means to protect myself.

01:32:05.000 And I basically, for the most part, I went limp, except for just, you know, trying to make sure that I didn't get slammed or anything like that.

01:32:12.000 And they cuffed me.

01:32:14.000 And they picked me up and almost carried me out of there.

01:32:18.000 And while they're carrying me out, they're talking about how I was fighting them and that this is federal charges and, you know, just basically... Frame-ups, lies, hardcore criminal activity.

01:32:27.000 I told them, like, hey, you're trying to set me up.

01:32:30.000 And then they took me out.

01:32:31.000 Well, they're psychopaths.

01:32:32.000 You've got to talk to them like that.

01:32:34.000 I have a wife.

01:32:35.000 I have children.

01:32:36.000 I'm a human.

01:32:37.000 It's wrong to lie about me.

01:32:40.000 And sometimes they have some humanity left.

01:32:40.000 I'm a person.

01:32:43.000 You talk to them like you talk to a kidnapper.

01:32:46.000 Go ahead.

01:32:47.000 And you've been kidnapped at that time.

01:32:49.000 What do the kidnappers do next?

01:32:52.000 Well, they took me outside and they stood me up against the wall, and I saw that my three friends were also out there at this point, and I saw them try to snatch the camera out of Cody's hand.

01:33:04.000 Yeah, I was filming the arrest and assault of Sam, at which time I was told to shut off my camera.

01:33:12.000 I did not comply, feeling that this was our only evidence of abuse and assault.

01:33:18.000 At which time they said, get him, and I was attacked by two officials, taken to my knees.

01:33:25.000 Public servants?

01:33:26.000 You just did it.

01:33:27.000 You just see you've been conditioned.

01:33:31.000 You can either call them your servants, what they are, or if you're going to call them officials, that means God.

01:33:36.000 That means authority, officials, the boss.

01:33:39.000 Now, are you going to call them God, or are you going to call them servant?

01:33:44.000 I'm going to go with servant as far as the servant strategy.

01:33:46.000 We have to stop calling them officials and authorities.

01:33:49.000 That's part of their programming.

01:33:50.000 Okay, so it's a servant, not a god.

01:33:53.000 What did the servant do?

01:33:54.000 Well, I went for my video stick out of my video camera, you know, as I was being assaulted, at which point the servants told me that that was a felony D offense, given the fact that it's evidence in an investigation.

01:34:11.000 Yeah, so the criminal frame-up, hardcore criminal activity continued from there.

01:34:16.000 Hardcore criminal forces waging war against freedom in the United States.

01:34:21.000 Hardcore former Iraqi troops coming home to rule the slaves.

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01:37:24.000 America's changing.

01:37:36.000 You can't deny it's turning into a cesspit.

01:37:39.000 You can't deny that we're pushed around, treated like slaves.

01:37:44.000 And we are.

01:37:45.000 We're debt slaves.

01:37:46.000 We're owned by foreign banks.

01:37:47.000 It's all a fraud.

01:37:48.000 We could say no any day.

01:37:49.000 I know there's a lot of good police out there, too.

01:37:54.000 But the system's corrupt and evil.

01:37:58.000 And I have seen it so many times where they've tried to frame me, talked about framing me, lied to the media about us.

01:38:06.000 I mean, again, I grew up where the local sheriff dealt the drugs and they still busted the kids.

01:38:11.000 Or where the police knew there was a crack house but would only bust you when you bought the crack.

01:38:16.000 And I grew up seeing all this and I mean, you know, I know Oliver North, the drug dealer.

01:38:21.000 I hate drugs!

01:38:21.000 I hate him!

01:38:23.000 And I just, I just...

01:38:26.000 You know, to hear about these poor men captured as they're talking about setting them up.

01:38:31.000 I mean, we're human beings.

01:38:32.000 You can't do that.

01:38:33.000 And I'm tired of it.

01:38:35.000 I've got so many squad car videos that have come out on the web where you see cops planting drugs on people and they get caught and don't get in trouble.

01:38:42.000 I mean, let me just, you know, I'm scared to death they're going to pull me over sometime, though Austin is known for not being one of the worst cities with police, and planting drugs on me.

01:38:52.000 I don't use anything, folks, other than coffee.

01:38:56.000 I drank a beer this weekend, too.

01:38:57.000 I've tried to completely quit that.

01:38:58.000 I should.

01:38:59.000 But let me go back to these gentlemen.

01:39:01.000 Sam, what happened next?

01:39:02.000 They started saying that the, uh, what was that Cody talking about?

01:39:06.000 How they started saying that, oh, you were trying to take your memory stick out.

01:39:09.000 That's covering up federal evidence, boy!

01:39:11.000 Go ahead.

01:39:12.000 Yeah, and my question is, well, if I was tampering with federal evidence, where is that federal evidence now?

01:39:18.000 And where is the crime?

01:39:19.000 You don't have to be evidence in a crime.

01:39:21.000 It's just totally made up.

01:39:24.000 Yeah, we were charging with something.

01:39:26.000 I need that footage, Mr. Jones.

01:39:28.000 Phil Russell with the LNPD told me to contact the Kentucky Convention Center because they're tired of getting phone calls from every great info warrior out there that has done a great job.

01:39:37.000 They're passing the buck.

01:39:39.000 Give these creatures, these despots, phone numbers out right now.

01:39:43.000 Let's hit them with 5,000 calls.

01:39:46.000 Kentucky Exposition Center Security is 502-367-5360.

01:39:55.000 And they'll have a full mailbox by the end of the night.

01:39:58.000 Well, listen, we don't want to just do that.

01:40:00.000 We want to call the Maine Police.

01:40:01.000 They're passing the buck.

01:40:02.000 It's pure bull.

01:40:03.000 It's their jurisdiction.

01:40:05.000 And I want to expand on this.

01:40:06.000 We are changing to stop putting up with this.

01:40:08.000 You clearly got them.

01:40:10.000 Some lawyer needs to call.

01:40:12.000 Just file the suit and they'll start, you know, wadding in their pants and they'll try to settle.

01:40:17.000 Just say, give us the stuff back.

01:40:19.000 You need to go ahead and go after them for official oppression, false arrest, aggravated kidnapping.

01:40:24.000 I'm serious.

01:40:25.000 So they made a big mistake not going ahead and setting you up.

01:40:28.000 That's why most of them will just do that.

01:40:30.000 Continue with what happened.

01:40:32.000 Because I heard there was like an hour-long celebration as the Marine Corps screamed at you and told you you were slaves.

01:40:38.000 Uh, yes sir, it was the typical bootlicking, uh, we are the supreme gods, and you will comply to our will, and if you don't comply, you're going to jail for life situation.

01:40:49.000 Oh, they said that?

01:40:51.000 Uh, you will comply would be a quote, and uh, and as far as if you don't comply, We're gonna throw the book at you, basically.

01:41:02.000 Yeah, they're ready to put us in furnaces.

01:41:04.000 That's the next step.

01:41:05.000 Lighting us up.

01:41:06.000 I've seen them trained to do it, so, you know.

01:41:08.000 God help us.

01:41:08.000 I guess we're not allowed to fight back when that's happening.

01:41:10.000 Just get on the flatbeds and go to the death camp.

01:41:13.000 So, now, these guys... I'm talking to some of the other guys.

01:41:18.000 They look like they've just gotten off the boat from Iraq.

01:41:22.000 I don't know about that.

01:41:25.000 These were older gentlemen.

01:41:28.000 Between 40 and 45, 50.

01:41:30.000 So there weren't any young guys there?

01:41:34.000 Thought I'd been told that.

01:41:35.000 There were a few.

01:41:36.000 It was mostly middle-aged men though.

01:41:39.000 Who were having their victory against freedom in America.

01:41:42.000 Who had some reporters... Yeah, evil reporters that had passes and a dare ask about camps.

01:41:49.000 These Americans were going to be shown that here in this country we don't have freedom.

01:41:53.000 You understand, you degenerate filth?

01:41:55.000 You serve the authorities, the officials.

01:41:57.000 You're here to pay my check and lick my boots, boy!

01:42:01.000 Stay right there, I'm going to come back to both you slaves.

01:42:04.000 Both of you are scum!

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01:43:39.000 He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

01:43:43.000 And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.

01:43:49.000 You can be in Austin, Texas.

01:43:50.000 You can be in New York City.

01:43:51.000 You can be clean-cut.

01:43:55.000 We can have children with you.

01:43:57.000 The police will walk right over and say, you're not allowed to stand here with a sign with a political view.

01:44:02.000 And if you say no, they're going to say, I'm going to arrest you!

01:44:07.000 I'm going to take your camera!

01:44:08.000 And you've got to stand your ground, and sometimes they still arrest you.

01:44:11.000 And man, they feel good when they hurt this country and hurt it bad.

01:44:15.000 And that's why I'm mad at you, because let me tell you, I know how bad it is.

01:44:18.000 When a government will arrest you for videotaping, or arrest you for talking, or arrest you for demonstrating peacefully, you're one inch from death camps.

01:44:26.000 It goes over the edge.

01:44:27.000 We're already over the edge, and I'm trying to claw my way up a hill, and I'm so upset, cops.

01:44:33.000 Your whole future is being destroyed, too.

01:44:34.000 Your masters are going to, this is all about destroying our economy, our future.

01:44:39.000 It's land of the free, home of the brave.

01:44:41.000 It's the United States.

01:44:42.000 It's supposedly a free society.

01:44:46.000 And I'm really bitter.

01:44:47.000 I'm upset.

01:44:47.000 I'm angry.

01:44:48.000 Because I know this country's going to hell in a handbasket.

01:44:51.000 And I'm upset.

01:44:51.000 And I'm mad at you.

01:44:53.000 You're not authorities.

01:44:53.000 You're not officials.

01:44:55.000 You're peace officers.

01:44:56.000 You're public servants.

01:44:57.000 And I think about these young men, surrounded by evil, for their courage to go in and ask Oliver North, that narcotics trafficking piece of trash, who trained death squads that killed men, women, and children.

01:45:07.000 You know those death squads killed tens of thousands, and they've dug up all these graves that have got little two-year-old toddlers in them.

01:45:13.000 And I got to watch you waddle around and talk about how you're conservatives and how you're good?

01:45:19.000 I know who the government is.

01:45:22.000 They're death squad hardcore killers.

01:45:24.000 They ship the drugs in, they rule!

01:45:27.000 And now they want the bank accounts, they want the businesses, they want the roads, they want to tax you.

01:45:31.000 They're going for broke.

01:45:32.000 They're not going to give us quarter, you dumb cops.

01:45:35.000 You work for killers!

01:45:37.000 And I'm tired of you going along with it and enjoying butchering my country with so much enjoyment!

01:45:44.000 I've had enough of it!

01:45:45.000 You're tearing my heart out here!

01:45:46.000 You go with the CPS pedophiles that seize people's kids for no reason?

01:45:52.000 So you're five times more likely to rape them like you do?

01:45:55.000 You scum!

01:45:58.000 You're all on power trips?

01:46:00.000 How it's all about you and how you're the boss?

01:46:02.000 I got news for you!

01:46:03.000 I'm tired of it!

01:46:04.000 We're gonna have Aaron Zellman on after the break, but I may even hold you guys over with him.

01:46:08.000 Look, I'm gonna try to shut up.

01:46:09.000 Just give out the main police number in Louisville.

01:46:11.000 Say anything else you want.

01:46:13.000 I'm too angry.

01:46:14.000 I do want to let the people know that I have a full interview with me and Phil Russell of the Louisville Metro Police Department.

01:46:22.000 He is their public advisor.

01:46:24.000 That's posted on WeAreChangeOhio.com in full.

01:46:28.000 And you can also check out the rest of the story from the beginning.

01:46:30.000 It's all posted on there.

01:46:31.000 How long is it?

01:46:34.000 It's a little over 12 minutes.

01:46:35.000 Can we play that at the end of the show today?

01:46:38.000 You're asking my permission?

01:46:39.000 Yes, sir.

01:46:40.000 Yes, I would appreciate it a lot.

01:46:42.000 Alright, give out the Ohio Change again.

01:46:46.000 We are ChangeOhio.com.

01:46:49.000 How are these guys looking at you?

01:46:51.000 You said they were saying things, too.

01:46:53.000 I mean, people ought to see the celebration of evil, is what I call it.

01:46:56.000 What was the celebration of evil like?

01:46:59.000 Well, luckily if I get my footage, we'll all get to see that.

01:47:02.000 But it was very degrading.

01:47:04.000 They made me feel less than human.

01:47:07.000 And, uh, next time I go through anything like this, I'm gonna lay down on the ground, put my hands behind my back, and tell them to take me to jail.

01:47:13.000 I'm not, I'm not going through the harassment again.

01:47:15.000 It was, uh, never again.

01:47:17.000 Uh, one thing is that, uh, it was mainly uniformed officers who were taking the chips out of our cameras, and it was, I believe, Officer Ream, who, uh, got in my face and said, we're taking your cameras, the Revenants.

01:47:31.000 And then he stood there and he stared at me, kept looking at me, and he was like, you got a problem with that?

01:47:39.000 According to Phil Russell, Officer Ream is not an officer with the Louisville Metro Police Department.

01:47:46.000 He was just in their uniform.

01:47:49.000 Right.

01:47:51.000 What did you say to him when he said that to you?

01:47:56.000 I mean, I was just completely baffled.

01:47:58.000 I mean, I was asking him how with Louisville Metro Police Department on his sleeve, is he not a member of their police organization?

01:48:08.000 He replied to me that they were off-duty and that they have separate organizations for the whole Metro County and all this blah-de-blah and that the Louisville Metro Police Department isn't accountable for his actions.

01:48:19.000 Because that means he was part of a group of officers that sell their merc services out.

01:48:25.000 Stay there.

01:48:25.000 Stay there, both of you.

01:48:27.000 Get Aaron Zellman on.

01:48:29.000 I want him to hear the story, okay?

01:48:30.000 He's all set.

01:48:32.000 He's been there for a minute.

01:48:38.000 A member of their police organization, he replied to me that they were off-duty and that they have separate organizations for the whole Metro County and all this blah-de-blah and that the Louisville Metro Police Department isn't accountable for his actions.

01:48:52.000 Because that means he was part of a group of officers that sell their merc services out.

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01:51:31.000 Deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.

01:51:35.000 It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.

01:51:39.000 We got Chuck Baldwin, amazing individual.

01:51:41.000 Presidential candidate for the Constitution Party.

01:51:49.000 For 30 minutes of the next hour.

01:51:50.000 Got Aaron Zellman for the rest of this hour.

01:51:52.000 Aaron was just listening in shock during the break.

01:51:57.000 You understand that the BATF, you can have a legal AR-15, if it misfires, as they do occasionally, and shoots two rounds instead of one, the gun rangers are trained to call the police on you, you'll be held, and the BATF will say, yeah, we know it's a misfire, you're going to prison for ten years.

01:52:14.000 We'll talk about that today.

01:52:15.000 We'll talk about Pennsylvania cops confiscating guns of legal gun owners and saying, we don't care, there's not a law.

01:52:22.000 All the things that are happening, the tripling of the BATF, the new reign of terror that's taking place.

01:52:27.000 But both of you, both Cody Dietz and Sam Lugolo of We Are Change Ohio that were in Louisville, and all this happened to you.

01:52:36.000 Both of you, just how did this end?

01:52:40.000 What would you like to see happen here?

01:52:41.000 Give out the Louisville main number.

01:52:44.000 For me personally, I would appreciate it if the local Louisville people would get involved as much as possible.

01:52:49.000 I'm all the way here in Ohio and I can't do all the footwork of actually going to these places.

01:52:55.000 And if we could also get their local media involved, that would put some pressure to find out where all this stuff is.

01:53:02.000 The main thing is I'd like to get the footage back, you know, what they stole from us.

01:53:07.000 And you keep asking us for the phone number.

01:53:08.000 Unfortunately, I don't have a computer in front of the phone here.

01:53:11.000 But if you do go to WeAreChangeOhio.com, the phone number is at the bottom of the article there.

01:53:17.000 Oh, I actually have it here in front of me.

01:53:19.000 The number to the police department is... One second.

01:53:27.000 I have it.

01:53:27.000 It's...

01:53:31.000 5-0-2-5-7-4-7-1-1-1.

01:53:33.000 And I would advise restraint just a little bit.

01:53:38.000 Not to sympathize with them, but they have been getting a lot of calls lately.

01:53:41.000 No, I mean, don't give them excuses to get mad at you.

01:53:43.000 Don't act like they act.

01:53:45.000 Call up and go, how dare your people threaten to frame folks, how dare them kidnap them, and then steal their video camera tapes, chips, And, of course, batteries.

01:53:58.000 That's gotta be... How many cameras?

01:54:02.000 We had five cameras between the four of us.

01:54:07.000 Okay, so that's five batteries, four memory chips, a CD.

01:54:13.000 I mean, that is like $500 right there, or more.

01:54:16.000 Yes sir, they were pretty nice.

01:54:18.000 They have a pretty nice memory stick.

01:54:19.000 Well, I mean, two gig, three gig member sticks like $100.

01:54:25.000 How big were they?

01:54:26.000 Yeah, they were all, I think four gig was the lowest.

01:54:31.000 Oh wow, that's like $150.

01:54:32.000 Yeah, we're having a hard time getting gas money for cars and stuff, so it's like, what do we do now?

01:54:41.000 I was going to use my camera today and I can't even use it without it.

01:54:44.000 Well, that's your headline, Louisville Police and Convention Center, steal $600, $700 worth of equipment.

01:54:50.000 Well, I mean, according to Phil Russell, there were no Metro Police Department there until the end.

01:54:55.000 I don't know.

01:55:01.000 I mean, how do you go about when someone completely denies anything?

01:55:05.000 Well, that's what will happen when they come pick you up at your house and take you to a lime grave.

01:55:10.000 They just say, we don't know where Alex went.

01:55:12.000 We don't know where Cody and Sam went.

01:55:14.000 You know, we don't know.

01:55:16.000 People said guys in black uniforms grabbed them.

01:55:18.000 You know, they'll gun the whole family down right there.

01:55:20.000 I mean, that's how this works.

01:55:21.000 That's what Oliver North ran.

01:55:23.000 That's why this is so dangerous.

01:55:24.000 I want to bring Aaron Zellman up.

01:55:26.000 Aaron, what do you think of this?

01:55:28.000 Well, like I said, Alex, it's the first I've heard of this, but it's really shocking that the NRA would be associating with Oliver North and then mistreating folks who come to their convention who are seeking the truth by asking a few simple questions.

01:55:45.000 However, with that said, the NRA has been in bed with the ATF for years.

01:55:53.000 And so, anything that has to do with destroying freedom or misleading the membership, perpetuating the fraud known as the NRA, does not shock me.

01:56:05.000 Well, they had press passes, too.

01:56:08.000 And then the police just came up and tackled Sam.

01:56:12.000 Well, you know, if people think that the police are on the side of the people, they're engaging in a grand fantasy.

01:56:22.000 I would encourage people to read a little booklet called Ordinary Men about how the Nazis used the local police to carry out the murdering of citizens.

01:56:33.000 And today's police are even better equipped to murder citizens.

01:56:38.000 It's happening all the time.

01:56:39.000 I'll tell you, we're in red-level crisis.

01:56:41.000 Well, guys, talk to me as this develops, and we really appreciate it.

01:56:45.000 Give out the Louisville number, and then give out the scumbag Convention Center number.

01:56:49.000 All right, sir.

01:56:50.000 Louisville Metro Police Department is 502-574-7111.

01:56:56.000 Their political name is Phil Russell, if you ask for him.

01:57:00.000 The security department for the Kentucky Expo Center is 502-367-5360.

01:57:07.000 And my full interview with Phil Russell is at wearechangeohio.com.

01:57:14.000 All right, good job, man.

01:57:15.000 Thanks for coming on.

01:57:16.000 Thank you, Mr. Jones.

01:57:17.000 It takes a lot of courage, Aaron, to get the press passes, go in, ask the questions.

01:57:21.000 We are changes being attacked everywhere for asking about the camps and other issues.

01:57:26.000 We have free speech zones.

01:57:28.000 They're banning free speech everywhere.

01:57:30.000 I mean, this country's in a lot of trouble.

01:57:32.000 You not only are the head of Jews Preservation Firearms Ownership, you also have an anti-police state organization.

01:57:39.000 I mean, I'm tracking it.

01:57:42.000 Jail time for speeding, ten years.

01:57:44.000 They're now saying hardcore jail time.

01:57:48.000 First offense for taller than three inch grass in major cities.

01:57:51.000 I have that in the stack today.

01:57:54.000 Banana peel, they're talking six months in jail.

01:57:57.000 They're building prisons everywhere.

01:57:58.000 I mean, Aaron, this is getting bad.

01:58:02.000 Well, we have a government that's gone bad.

01:58:04.000 We have a citizenry that doesn't... the majority of people don't seem to care.

01:58:09.000 And so, sure, yeah, things are going to get bad, but, you know, sometimes, Alex, worse is better.

01:58:14.000 The more people have their ox cord, the more people have a wolf at the door, the more people start to wake up.

01:58:23.000 We're going to find out, Alex, apparently in the very near future, If the American people truly understand the significance of the Second Amendment.

01:58:34.000 There's 80 million gun owners in this country, as I'm led to believe, and we're going to find out what percentage of them are going to be worthy of being a gun owner.

01:58:45.000 That's right.

01:58:46.000 That freedom was paid for in rivers of blood, and people don't appreciate that.

01:58:55.000 Well, I think that one of the problems we have, as you know Alex, is that there's an awful lot of people in America who haven't got a clue about American history.

01:59:03.000 They don't understand how this country came about.

01:59:06.000 They don't understand how World War II Americans had to go die in foreign lands to keep fascism from coming to America.

01:59:16.000 We have some fascism here now, but it was nothing like what was going to be here during World War II.

01:59:23.000 So we have a populace that is just simply not knowledgeable about the history of America, and certainly not knowledgeable about what it takes to create freedom and to keep freedom alive.

01:59:38.000 What's wrong with the average cop?

01:59:41.000 Because more and more they look at us like we're the enemy, they act crazy, and I know it's been incremental brainwashing, but man, we're in trouble!

01:59:49.000 Well, I'm not sure I have a real good answer about the average cop.

01:59:53.000 What we're seeing is what I call the militarization of the police, where the federal government is making more and more goodies available in the way of armament and devices to control the citizens to the police departments.

02:00:11.000 Police departments, for some reason, seem to think they need all this equipment.

02:00:16.000 In fact, I found it amazing in Texas when they had the raid on the, what was it called, the FLDS?

02:00:24.000 Yeah, they had a Bradley without the turret.

02:00:27.000 Exactly!

02:00:28.000 It said Sheriff on the side, and I thought, what is going on here?

02:00:32.000 What were they expecting?

02:00:34.000 So it shows you the mindset.

02:00:37.000 Well, I guess the bottom line would be, Alex, that it's going to be us against them.

02:00:43.000 That's the mindset that they've already developed.

02:00:46.000 And now the American people have to decide if they want to share the same mindset.

02:00:50.000 No, that's it.

02:00:50.000 The entire attack profile of the government, they're saying the average people are the enemy.

02:00:55.000 They are attacking us.

02:00:57.000 And now, if you're even unarmed, they just gun you down.

02:01:02.000 I see cases every day where right in front of witnesses, they just decide to kill you.

02:01:06.000 And before, cops would go to jail.

02:01:07.000 Now they just say, that's the way it is.

02:01:10.000 Well, that's true.

02:01:12.000 I'm not so sure that's the way it is in Wisconsin at the moment, but it may very well be that way.

02:01:18.000 But I think that we have a situation where apparently there's something afoot in the country where it's going to be some type of severe problem and the government is afraid that the people will react against the government.

02:01:32.000 So the government is taking a strategic step Or if I can call it a preemptive strike against the people.

02:01:41.000 No, no, that's it, exactly.

02:01:43.000 They are doing martial law drills everywhere and admitting it.

02:01:45.000 It's in the legislation passed.

02:01:48.000 They're just questioning people on the street corners, setting up random checkpoints, saying they're all giving them M16s, they're going to attack us.

02:01:55.000 And that's the proof they're the terrorists, because they're going to stage more terror, Aaron.

02:02:00.000 Well, that shouldn't shock anybody at this point.

02:02:04.000 But, if I could comment just a moment on something you were saying about the ATF and if your firearm shoots more than two shots with one pull of the trigger?

02:02:13.000 Yes.

02:02:14.000 If you have a moment.

02:02:17.000 That decision comes out of a court case dealing with a David Oleson here in Milwaukee.

02:02:22.000 It was just about, I think, a week or ten days ago.

02:02:26.000 The expert witness, Len Savage, who was part of that court case, Well, when he was in the courtroom, the federal prosecutor made it very clear to the judge they did not care what kind of weapon malfunctioned that had more than two shots when it pulled the trigger, including your double-barreled shotgun, or including a single-action Western-style revolver.

02:02:52.000 That's possible.

02:02:54.000 They considered it an illegal machine gun.

02:02:57.000 And so I want everybody who's listening to realize that they may very well be blamed or charged with owning an illegal machine gun if the gun malfunctions.

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02:07:27.000 Folks, if I sound angry, you didn't act.

02:07:40.000 I can barely contain myself.

02:07:41.000 Not knocking holes in the wall, overthrowing things.

02:07:46.000 I see police now and I become nauseous.

02:07:49.000 I can't sleep.

02:07:50.000 I can't enjoy my life.

02:07:51.000 Because you know what?

02:07:51.000 I know they've built death camps.

02:07:53.000 It's in the mainstream news.

02:07:55.000 I know the people that run our country put Saddam into power, put Mao into power, put Hitler into power, put Lenin into power.

02:08:01.000 I know they want power and control.

02:08:03.000 I know they brainwashed our poor police and they brought back hundreds of thousands of troops to become police that were all brainwashed.

02:08:09.000 One in ten college grads is going to be Homeland Security related.

02:08:13.000 They admit they're spying on all Americans.

02:08:15.000 I mean, this is classical tyranny.

02:08:16.000 John Yoo writes memos and then gets, you know, top chairmanships at major colleges, saying they can torture a two-year-old with pliers sexually.

02:08:26.000 I mean, look, torturing children sexually is wrong.

02:08:30.000 I can't believe I'm in a Twilight Zone!

02:08:33.000 Aaron Zellman...

02:08:34.000 Do you ever feel like you're in a Twilight Zone episode?

02:08:36.000 I mean, do you understand the feelings I'm having?

02:08:38.000 They're normal, healthy instincts.

02:08:40.000 I have to control myself, not out of fear, because I want to see the end.

02:08:44.000 I want to go through it.

02:08:46.000 I want to see them go to hot war so I can, you know, defend myself.

02:08:49.000 But the other side, I don't.

02:08:51.000 I, like, have to control my instinct to flee.

02:08:54.000 You know, to get my family out of here.

02:08:55.000 Is this Nazi Germany?

02:08:56.000 Is this Soviet Russia?

02:08:57.000 I mean, do you see the thing I'm saying here, Aaron?

02:09:01.000 Well, I think for any of us who have a little gray hair and remember Barry Goldwater, this is not the America that we were raised in.

02:09:09.000 I'm not sure what this country is anymore.

02:09:12.000 But, no, you're right.

02:09:14.000 In other words, there's something is extremely wrong in this country.

02:09:17.000 They've been very clever in bringing it about in a gradual way, but as some people say, we're approaching the endgame.

02:09:25.000 I'm not trying to be Alarmist.

02:09:28.000 There's something very wrong in this country when we have the legislation that's being put forth to destroy freedoms, to spy on people.

02:09:38.000 When you have the NRA, who's made it very clear they don't want to abolish the ATF.

02:09:44.000 When you have Congress people, who Congress critters, call it what you will, who really don't care whether you write them or not.

02:09:50.000 And by the way, that's what you say.

02:09:52.000 By the way, the BATF is ballooning in size right now.

02:09:56.000 That it is.

02:09:57.000 And it's really, in fact, all of government is.

02:10:01.000 You know, government has been, at all levels of government, is getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

02:10:07.000 And now they tell us that our dollar's gone, we're totally devalued.

02:10:11.000 That's it!

02:10:11.000 They're just going to take everything we've gotten.

02:10:13.000 When we scream, they're going to blow our heads off.

02:10:16.000 Well, maybe.

02:10:19.000 In other words, there's a lot of, there's some unknowns.

02:10:24.000 We don't know who's really in charge of the computers, who's going to hack them, if that's possible at all.

02:10:30.000 We really don't know what some people have been planning to do that are pro-freedom.

02:10:36.000 So there's some unknowns out there, although I don't want to give anybody any false impressions that anything good's going to happen.

02:10:44.000 I don't want to mislead anybody.

02:10:46.000 God.

02:10:46.000 But we're facing a situation that is, I'm surprised we're even having this conversation I never thought we've had a conversation like this 20 years ago, but here we are talking about America, or what used to be America.

02:10:59.000 Oh, there's no doubt they're going for hot war on the people.

02:11:03.000 And they're ratcheting it up, but it's not incremental anymore.

02:11:07.000 It's huge.

02:11:08.000 I mean, going back to the John Yoo memos, how does the White House say we torture little children with pliers?

02:11:14.000 Rip their genitals off?

02:11:15.000 I mean, what the hell?

02:11:17.000 What the hell, man?

02:11:18.000 I want them all arrested now!

02:11:23.000 I'm pissed, man!

02:11:24.000 I'm pissed!

02:11:25.000 I want these sacks of murder and trash out of my government!

02:11:29.000 And how dare the police, with relish and demonic looks in their faces, enjoy destroying our liberties?

02:11:35.000 Why are they going along with it, Aaron?

02:11:37.000 Is it just their mindless power trips?

02:11:39.000 No, it's beyond that.

02:11:41.000 I think that, you know, if you give somebody the... It's pointed out in this little book called Ordinary Men.

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02:11:49.000 It's probably $12 in the stores.

02:11:52.000 You will learn that once a person is given a badge and some power, They will then follow through and do whatever they're told to do.

02:12:01.000 With rare exception will you find someone who says no thank you and walk away.

02:12:05.000 Assuming he's not shot in the back.

02:12:08.000 And so this is what we have in America today.

02:12:10.000 If you look at these people who are at the airports, the homeland security goons.

02:12:15.000 Most of these people are really just average people who've been given a badge and some power and authority and they will use it and abuse it to the fullest extent possible.

02:12:25.000 And that's human nature.

02:12:26.000 Well, the Feds admit that's to train us for this on the streets and now they're doing that.

02:12:32.000 I mean, I'm tired of people coming up to me wanting my papers or checkpoints.

02:12:35.000 I mean, I'm getting... I just can't believe it, Aaron.

02:12:39.000 Well, I would suggest to all of your listeners that maybe you can help them along this road, but everybody really needs to get their hands on a little camera.

02:12:49.000 A video camera.

02:12:51.000 And they need to start Creating some footage.

02:12:54.000 B-roll as it's called, I think.

02:12:56.000 And they need to start making it available.

02:12:58.000 You know, the best way to deal with this issue is to shine a light a day on it.

02:13:02.000 Stay there, Aaron.

02:13:03.000 I agree.

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02:17:40.000 Aaron Zellman, JPFO.org, Judicial Preservation and Firearms Ownership, works closely with Owners of America, a real Second Amendment group, both of them.

02:17:51.000 Answer my question though, do you feel, not just intellectually, it tells me we're in grave danger, that it's really coming to a head, but in my gut, which has never been wrong, when I was younger I didn't follow my gut, I've learned to listen to it because it's always right, my gut tells me, I mean this is as bad as it could get, that the diabolical people And don't think it goes away when Bush leaves.

02:18:11.000 It's going to get worse, folks.

02:18:12.000 It gets worse when he's president.

02:18:14.000 The corporate interest and all their documents I have and what they're planning, they plan to take all the pension funds, the stock market, everything, and when people riot, they're just going to gun us down.

02:18:23.000 They've got microwave guns, Sunshine Project got congressional secret documents, they have helicopters with knockout gas positioned in every city for at least a decade.

02:18:32.000 I mean, they're planning some really bad stuff, Aaron, and I guess the average cop listening is going to follow orders when it happens.

02:18:39.000 Well, his pension comes first.

02:18:41.000 So yes, he's going to follow orders.

02:18:43.000 I'm not anti-police.

02:18:46.000 I'm not anti-peace officer, but I'm very much concerned about law enforcement officers, LEOs, because they will enforce the law.

02:18:55.000 That's all they care about is enforcing the law.

02:18:58.000 And the law to them is not the Bill of Rights.

02:19:00.000 So you're right.

02:19:01.000 In other words, there are some nasty people afoot.

02:19:05.000 And as I told you probably a year and a half ago, I'm not so sure we'll even have elections.

02:19:10.000 But we'll find out.

02:19:11.000 Hopefully I'm wrong.

02:19:12.000 Although I don't think it'll make any difference at this point.

02:19:15.000 What does your gut tell you, Aaron?

02:19:17.000 Well, my gut tells me that there is a great deal of evil afoot and that the American people would be wise to prepare for the worst.

02:19:27.000 Well, you know, there's a line from The Godfather that, I forget the exact line, that women have, you know, women and children have the luxury of not worrying and running around and having fun.

02:19:35.000 But men don't, and men particularly should have the intellect, the history, the instincts.

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02:19:46.000 And people see the facade of the pretty green hills and the blue sky.

02:19:50.000 They think everything's going to... It's not!

02:19:52.000 I mean, they are... It's not Alex Jones saying it ten years ago, or Aaron Zellman saying it ten, twelve years ago.

02:19:58.000 It's the Houston Chronicle saying, yeah, we built camps for illegals and for American citizens, and it's in the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.

02:20:04.000 It says Bush is dictator and can take over the states and arrest whoever he wants, and they won't let Homeland Security Committee and Congress see the Continuity of Government Plan.

02:20:15.000 The cover sheet says the President's a dictator.

02:20:18.000 And I see police everywhere, running around, and cameras going up, and they admit they're spying on all of us, and it's all just so a bunch of bankers and elitists can own everything?

02:20:27.000 Well, let me just mention the cameras, if you don't mind.

02:20:31.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:20:32.000 One of the bright sides of this whole thing is, you know, England has gone to cameras, if I can put it that way.

02:20:39.000 They have surveillance cameras everywhere.

02:20:42.000 After doing this for about two or three years, they've come to the conclusion these cameras are not terribly efficient.

02:20:49.000 They've spent a fortune, millions of pounds, and they're not getting their money's worth.

02:20:53.000 Billions of pounds and crimes exploded.

02:20:56.000 Ten million cameras in the country.

02:20:57.000 So, you know, these surveillance cameras are not everything that the government was hoping they would be.

02:21:01.000 We all know they weren't hoping they would be good.

02:21:04.000 It's to control us.

02:21:06.000 Let me share something with you.

02:21:08.000 In a fictional book that I wrote, co-authored, called Out of the Gray Zone, there were cameras everywhere.

02:21:15.000 And you know what people did?

02:21:16.000 They wore great big floppy hats so you couldn't see their face.

02:21:23.000 So I just share that with you for what it's worth.

02:21:25.000 By the way, they've started that in London.

02:21:27.000 A lot of people wear hoods now.

02:21:29.000 Hoods?

02:21:29.000 Well, yeah.

02:21:30.000 And the police are talking about not letting people wear hoods.

02:21:32.000 Did you see the New York Times article where they said that it's up 44% nationwide, the tattletale lines, and that grandmothers are turning in grandsons for warrants for speeding tickets and marijuana, saying, I need $500?

02:21:48.000 Well, that comes with the territory.

02:21:51.000 You're going to see a lot of that.

02:21:52.000 The government's going to encourage that.

02:21:56.000 And so be careful who you talk to and make sure you know Who your true friends really are.

02:22:02.000 Well, that brings me to the next thing.

02:22:03.000 You said to the break, shine a light, be out in the open, be bold, or it's over, they win.

02:22:09.000 But you're saying also be careful who you talk to.

02:22:11.000 You know, the key is that if you are doing something quasi-illegal, and everything is now, don't let the idiot neighbor know.

02:22:18.000 But shouldn't we all be bold about the tyranny right now, or they're going to win?

02:22:22.000 I think that to quote John Ross, who wrote the book Unintended Consequences, hide in plain sight.

02:22:30.000 In other words, be out front, make as much noise as you can, because if you're missing, someone will notice it right away.

02:22:39.000 If you're quiet and hiding in the corner being the usual ghetto coward, when you're missing, no one will notice.

02:22:46.000 Now I want you to briefly tell, and you've got a book, at least last time I checked, you sell about this, The Battle for Athens, and that's a real story, and then what?

02:22:53.000 Unintended consequences covered.

02:22:55.000 Well, we don't have the book, Battle for Athens, anymore.

02:22:58.000 It's sold out, but it is on our website.

02:23:00.000 1946, when World War II GIs came back to Athens, Tennessee, that's in McMinn County of Tennessee, they were greeted with what some of their loved ones had been writing them.

02:23:14.000 They were greeted with a bunch of goons who were running the city and who were locking people up until they paid money to get out of jail.

02:23:24.000 And all kinds of criminal activities.

02:23:26.000 The G.I.s created the G.I.

02:23:28.000 Party and ran for elections.

02:23:30.000 They ran for public office and won.

02:23:33.000 But before they could take office, the ballot boxes were stolen by the corrupt sheriff.

02:23:39.000 He took it to the jail.

02:23:40.000 He said, we'll have an honest count, a real honest election.

02:23:43.000 Make a long story short, the G.I.s had to resort to using their firearms that they had brought back.

02:23:49.000 Farmers came in with their shotguns and such.

02:23:52.000 And 800 bullets were sent into that jail.

02:23:55.000 And the sheriff finally surrendered.

02:23:58.000 One more thing had to be done.

02:23:59.000 They had a dynamite off the front door.

02:24:02.000 And that was done.

02:24:03.000 The sheriff called the governor, asked him to sign with the National Guard, and the governor laughed at him.

02:24:07.000 He said, if you think the National Guard is going to come shoot at World War II veterans, you're crazy.

02:24:13.000 And the sheriff indeed was crazy, and he was replaced.

02:24:17.000 Today they call in ATN Warthogs.

02:24:19.000 That's on our website, and that happened, and so it's called the Battle of Athens, Athens, Tennessee, and we encourage people to come to our website, JPFO.org, and read about it, what real Americans did, when they were confronted with tyranny.

02:24:32.000 Twice in Texas, Reconstruction went on for a decade that was really abusive, no matter what side of that war you were on.

02:24:39.000 And I had ancestors, in fact, one of them who led the operation, and they came into the court, fired at it with cannons, the Capitol, and removed the carpetbag and governors and kicked them out.

02:24:52.000 Well, that's what happened in the Battle of Athens.

02:24:55.000 So again, it's at JPFO.org.

02:24:57.000 We encourage people to stop by and just go to our search engine, put in Battle of Athens, and these articles will pop up, and I think you'll find it fascinating.

02:25:08.000 We encourage people to send it around the country, download, make copies of it.

02:25:12.000 Do whatever you can to show Americans what true Americans have done in the past to preserve freedom.

02:25:19.000 Well, Aaron, the number I've got is more like 100 million gun owners, but let's say it's 80 million gun owners, but we're seeing a reassurgence of people going out, women going out and getting guns.

02:25:28.000 But let's say 1% of 80 million fight back.

02:25:31.000 That's 800,000.

02:25:33.000 Everything, you know, that they wrote about, that he wrote about in Unintended Consequences, seems like that's where we're going.

02:25:39.000 Tell folks about that book.

02:25:41.000 Well, as best as I remember it, because I didn't write it, I just read it, like a lot of other people, but the book is probably a 500 or 600 or 700 page novel about people getting tired of the ATF and other government agencies and taking their country back by taking action.

02:26:03.000 There's an expression in the book, it's called, it's time to feed the hogs.

02:26:08.000 And I'll let you peel that onion as to what you're going to feed the hogs.

02:26:11.000 But it's an interesting book, and it's been around for a number of years, but if you can... At the moment I forget the name of the publisher.

02:26:21.000 Didn't they harass him for the book?

02:26:24.000 Oh yeah, in fact in our film called The Gang, we interviewed John Ross, and he finally had to offer a $10,000 reward for the names and defecations of the ATF agents.

02:26:37.000 Who tried to harass booksellers at gun shows.

02:26:41.000 Tried to convince them not to sell the book.

02:26:45.000 Well, they've always been a lawless group of Kurds.

02:26:47.000 For those that don't know, they were the ones that would go around raping and killing at all the little whiskey brewers, the moonshine makers, because people were poor, starving in Tennessee and North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, everywhere, Alabama, Florida.

02:27:02.000 And they were the first federal officers.

02:27:04.000 and after federal marshals, and they would run around shaking you down, stealing your money, stealing your whiskey, you know, because you hadn't paid the tax.

02:27:12.000 And there were also rebellions against them, because back then you couldn't find anybody in the government who would go out and rob people and snitch and tattle.

02:27:20.000 Americans wouldn't do that back then.

02:27:22.000 And so they have always been the cream of the scum, haven't they, Aaron?

02:27:25.000 Well, as far as we know, there may be something worse, but we know them to be thugs and to engage in criminal acts.

02:27:37.000 And they're very proud of it.

02:27:38.000 In fact, you know, again on our film, uh, The Gang, in fact, there's a, there's a trailer on, on, on YouTube, uh, called The Gang Trailer or Trailer for The Gang.

02:27:47.000 I forget which one we call it.

02:27:49.000 But you can actually see a ATF supervisory official telling ATF agents to lie in court.

02:28:00.000 That's documented.

02:28:02.000 We've seen a bunch of federal court cases now where they say the Constitution is unadmissible and banned from the court.

02:28:11.000 And there was just a case in New York where the Mayor Bloomberg has got a gag order on the term Second Amendment.

02:28:19.000 Well, Mayor Bloomberg's a good example of greed personified.

02:28:26.000 And he's no credit to America.

02:28:29.000 And it's really disgraceful that he considers himself to be a Jew.

02:28:34.000 It's really disgraceful.

02:28:35.000 Isn't this a self-fulfilling process?

02:28:38.000 They say there's terrorists everywhere.

02:28:39.000 They spend tens of millions a year to quote, fight terrorists domestically.

02:28:43.000 They're training the neighbors to spy on each other.

02:28:45.000 The local FBI calls anti-terror meetings with locals, then says, tell us if your neighbors grow on marijuana.

02:28:51.000 They're gearing up, they're arming.

02:28:52.000 The military industrial complex owns the red light cameras.

02:28:55.000 They raise the money now, Lockheed and others.

02:28:58.000 And they know they're going to push, push, push, push, push.

02:29:00.000 Then we're going to fight back, and they're going to tell the cops, see?

02:29:03.000 There's terrorists everywhere!

02:29:06.000 You know, there is a solution to this whole problem.

02:29:09.000 And I think I sent you a DVD about it, it's called Take Your Money Back.

02:29:12.000 And I won't go into a great deal about it.

02:29:14.000 Well, go ahead, plug the DVD!

02:29:16.000 Uh, pardon me?

02:29:17.000 I mean, tell us about it.

02:29:18.000 Alright, well, I decided to come up with a solution to a problem, and I think it's doable.

02:29:25.000 And people have to realize this reality.

02:29:28.000 If money is power, then as long as the government can continue to take our money, confiscate it through taxation, they'll always have the power to take more money and to destroy the American people.

02:29:41.000 So I think one of the things that we have a short period of time to do is to organize people and create a national movement, as I call it, take your money back.

02:29:51.000 And we created a little DVD It's $4.95 postage paid.

02:29:58.000 And we also set up a website called TakeYourMoneyBack.com.

02:30:02.000 And I think we have a solution to the problem, if, big if, but if we can make it a national movement.

02:30:10.000 We can defund the United States government without people going to jail.

02:30:15.000 And it's possible, this is all possible to do, but it has to be a national movement.

02:30:20.000 What's the program, Not Pay Taxes?

02:30:23.000 Well, what you do is you educate your neighbor as to how taxes are destroying them financially, and you appeal to people's greed.

02:30:32.000 And you get people on board who are going to say, I don't want to do this anymore.

02:30:34.000 Well, that's already happened.

02:30:35.000 We already have something like 35 to 45, they debate it, non-filers, and they say it's growing exponentially.

02:30:42.000 Well, we're not talking about non-filing, because that's something the government could come after you with.

02:30:46.000 What we're showing people is how their money is being stolen, and how the average American could accumulate a half a million to a million dollars if it wasn't for the federal income tax.

02:30:58.000 So we're not going to tell people to go do something that is considered illegal, although I think it's morally correct, but the government says it's illegal.

02:31:04.000 You're just educating them how we're financing our own destruction and then they make their decision.

02:31:09.000 Exactly.

02:31:10.000 So I would encourage people, if you don't mind, send them to TakeYourMoneyBack.com or KPFO.org.

02:31:16.000 Aaron, we really appreciate you.

02:31:17.000 We need to get you a show here on the network on the weekend or something, because your knowledge is so great and we really appreciate you.

02:31:22.000 You know, I really am getting to the freak-out point, though, because I want to screw around, I want to joke around, I want to go bowling with the guys, I want to take my kids fishing, and all I can think about is this now.

02:31:32.000 Because I know we're coming towards the end of the finish line, and I'm just so mad at the police.

02:31:36.000 I don't even dislike them.

02:31:37.000 I'm just disgusted with government.

02:31:39.000 I can't believe it's this bad.

02:31:41.000 I can't believe my wife had a baby four months ago.

02:31:44.000 Congratulations.

02:31:46.000 I mean it's wonderful she had the baby and I can't believe that they sit there now into a database right to CPS and they ask you to leave the room and then they ask the wife, is he beating you?

02:31:46.000 You bet.

02:31:57.000 We're all guilty until proven innocent.

02:31:59.000 Secret police are everywhere.

02:32:01.000 This country is a cesspit.

02:32:04.000 Well, all the more reason to defund the government by taking our money back.

02:32:08.000 But, I mean, it's archetypal bad.

02:32:11.000 It's like they've made a list of every tyrannical activity, every despotic activity, and they've marked and checked each one, and are overdoing each one more than any... I mean, it's insane!

02:32:23.000 Well, it's only because I think that they think they can get away with it.

02:32:27.000 In other words, the American people, and let's be honest, a lot of American people come under the category of fat, dumb, and happy.

02:32:33.000 Dumb as a box of rocks.

02:32:35.000 And so, well, that's a good expression.

02:32:38.000 It's certainly accurate.

02:32:39.000 And so, you know, well, dumb feels good, so that's why they're dumb.

02:32:45.000 But I think there are others of us, you know, there are people out there like us who are not dumb.

02:32:50.000 And, you know, and we're being overwhelmed, not so much by the evil, but by the apathy and stupidity of some of our neighbors.

02:32:57.000 I mean, the real danger in this country is people who won't do anything.

02:33:01.000 Well, Aaron, I'll tell you what freaks me out.

02:33:03.000 All the squad car videos that are coming out are people planting cameras, like you said, in their own cars and catching it.

02:33:08.000 I mean, there's like ten a day.

02:33:09.000 I don't even watch them all.

02:33:10.000 I don't, like, enjoy it.

02:33:11.000 I can't make myself watch them anymore.

02:33:13.000 I get too upset.

02:33:15.000 And I can't be upset all the time.

02:33:16.000 And where they just plant drugs on people for no reason.

02:33:19.000 I mean, it's getting worse.

02:33:20.000 I mean, how does a cop frame somebody?

02:33:24.000 I mean, even normal criminals aren't that bad.

02:33:26.000 I mean, I don't understand.

02:33:28.000 Well, they're trained.

02:33:28.000 I mean, you ask how?

02:33:30.000 Well, they're trained.

02:33:32.000 I mean, if they did this on their own without permission, they could get in trouble.

02:33:37.000 Or if someone wasn't willing to look the other way.

02:33:39.000 So they're trained to do it.

02:33:40.000 Well I know, the whole Dallas department.

02:33:42.000 Which again, is our money being used to train people to destroy us.

02:33:47.000 Well I use this example because there's thousands, but I use the one that's well known.

02:33:49.000 Did you hear about Dallas?

02:33:51.000 Where the whole narcotics squad was doing it, they had low-level police doing it, and then the lab certified it, and the deputy chief certified.

02:33:58.000 They just pulled nice cars over, dropped a bag of chalk in, seized the cars.

02:34:03.000 I mean, it's just bandits, period!

02:34:04.000 Well, that's why I'm encouraging people to get out those video cameras, let's get them up on YouTube, and let's try to wake up millions of Americans.

02:34:14.000 Oh, God.

02:34:14.000 Aaron Zellman, stay there, I got a few other questions for you.

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02:37:51.000 Dot TV for all our PrisonPlanet.TV members and up on the screen I'm going to post a computer feed image of the armored vehicle with the SWAT team guys from the quote polygamous compound.

02:38:07.000 It turns out a bunch of women are 25-30 years old they were claiming were 15 year olds and no due process.

02:38:13.000 The point is they always test it out on a weird group.

02:38:15.000 Now I think the group's pretty weird but that's how it always works.

02:38:18.000 oh, it's these gypsies, or it's, oh, these Hasidic Jews.

02:38:21.000 You know, they've got big beards and black hats.

02:38:23.000 And then it's you.

02:38:25.000 And that's what happened in Nazi Germany is they wanted your good-looking wife.

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02:38:35.000 They would just, the locals would randomly just rob and steal and send everybody to camps because they wanted their businesses.

02:38:40.000 And so up on the screen for all the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers right now, I'm going to later encode this and post it for folks who want to watch it later at PrisonPlanet.tv.

02:38:49.000 We've got it up there.

02:38:50.000 And they're just running around in their black uniforms, dressed like fascist classic jackboots, riding around with it.

02:39:01.000 I mean, just totally insane.

02:39:03.000 Now, Aaron Zellman, your comments.

02:39:06.000 Well, you know, again, all this happened because the state is taking people's money so they have the money to pay the thugs.

02:39:13.000 So I think people have got to realize that...

02:39:16.000 You know, if you don't cut the bunny off, this craziness, this evil, will continue.

02:39:22.000 Well, what about how they admit that major departments have been hiring felons, the military's hiring felons and illegal aliens, that they look?

02:39:29.000 The Washington Times admitted they look for aggravated felons who are illegal aliens, and it said arson and rape.

02:39:35.000 I mean, you can't make that up, Aaron.

02:39:38.000 That's so over the top.

02:39:40.000 Well, I think that's frightening.

02:39:43.000 It's more than concerning.

02:39:44.000 It's frightening because why would the U.S.

02:39:46.000 government want those types of people on the payroll?

02:39:50.000 Everyone's got to ask that question.

02:39:53.000 What is the purpose of having violent criminals on the U.S.

02:39:58.000 government payroll?

02:39:59.000 Well, who made up the first Nazis?

02:40:00.000 The SA were street thugs and criminals.

02:40:03.000 Same thing.

02:40:03.000 Stalin opened up the jails and made them his enforcers.

02:40:09.000 Well, it would be interesting if we opened up the American prisons, considering all the innocent people there.

02:40:16.000 I'm afraid the government's afraid to do that, when you think about it.

02:40:20.000 You know, we have so many innocent people who have been thrown into prison, the government doesn't want to open our prisons.

02:40:28.000 Oh my God, it's true.

02:40:29.000 I remember seeing these on tanks.

02:40:32.000 The Midland Sheriff's Department has kills on it.

02:40:36.000 You know, in like World War II, they'd put how many Zeros or Messerschmitts or Folkwolves had been shot down?

02:40:41.000 The image I've got up right now is a mainstream photo.

02:40:45.000 I remember seeing this in the newspaper.

02:40:46.000 I'm going to ask my computer operator in there where he got it.

02:40:49.000 And it's got kills on it.

02:40:51.000 It says, uh, the vehicle is a... and the guy gave me his number.

02:40:55.000 Have this guy call in.

02:40:56.000 Go ahead and call this guy.

02:40:57.000 The vehicle is a US M113 APC.

02:41:00.000 I'm a veteran Army tank driver.

02:41:01.000 Notice the kill marks painted on the top hull.

02:41:05.000 Two pedestrians, one car.

02:41:07.000 You do this to display your combat kills.

02:41:09.000 And notice the coward snipers.

02:41:11.000 We used to shoot enemy snipers on sight.

02:41:13.000 They were considered cowards and dishonorable.

02:41:15.000 Now they are the favorite sons of the military and police.

02:41:18.000 What do you think of that?

02:41:21.000 Well, of course they are.

02:41:22.000 But, you know, this is a, uh, to be quite blunt about it, I told people on your program two or three years ago to master the use of a long-range rifle.

02:41:34.000 God help us.

02:41:35.000 Just God help us.

02:41:35.000 I don't know if anybody listened to me two or three years ago, but I'm saying it again.

02:41:40.000 Aaron Zellman, Jr.

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02:43:22.000 Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.

02:43:25.000 I'll never forget I was watching some Inside the Police Department show on Discovery Channel.

02:43:37.000 Had to be ten years ago.

02:43:40.000 It showed police wearing hockey masks with devil horns, and they said that was for intimidation.

02:43:47.000 I mean, now they're going to run around in devil outfits?

02:43:49.000 That's what the bad guys always do.

02:43:51.000 I'm looking at the Midland County Sheriff's Armored vehicle.

02:43:56.000 Shredded armored vehicle.

02:43:58.000 And I remember seeing this on the news and wondering what it was.

02:44:00.000 I didn't put too many together.

02:44:02.000 But it is.

02:44:02.000 It's kills.

02:44:03.000 They've got how many U.S.

02:44:04.000 citizens they've murdered.

02:44:06.000 And I know a lot of these SWAT teams are just guys who like to kill people.

02:44:09.000 And I've seen famous video.

02:44:11.000 I saw it here in Austin after they killed a guy.

02:44:12.000 They were doing high fives.

02:44:14.000 And man, we're just gone, folks.

02:44:16.000 We're gone, gone, gone, gone.

02:44:18.000 Aaron Zellman, what do you think about them having how many U.S.

02:44:21.000 citizens they've killed on the side of their armored vehicle, their tank?

02:44:25.000 Well at first I've heard of it, but obviously it's shocking, but at the same time it's a sign of the times.

02:44:32.000 We're confronted by police who see us as the enemy.

02:44:37.000 And I don't know what it's going to take to get to the majority of the American people This ain't no more.

02:44:43.000 We're not going to finance this.

02:44:45.000 You guys are fired!

02:44:48.000 I agree.

02:44:48.000 Have you seen any of the hundreds of videos where it shows U.S.

02:44:52.000 military killing dogs, throwing people over things, shooting random cars up in Baghdad and laughing?

02:45:00.000 I've seen some of them, yes.

02:45:02.000 I mean, that is insane!

02:45:06.000 Well, maybe it's because we're putting felons into uniforms.

02:45:11.000 Maybe it's because we're putting people into uniforms who enjoy violence and mayhem and we want to train them so we can bring them back here to give them a job.

02:45:21.000 Maybe Blackwater wants to hire them.

02:45:23.000 Well, God bless you Aaron Zellman.

02:45:25.000 I want to get you up more often than once a year.

02:45:27.000 I'd like to get you up for a couple hours to take calls the next few weeks.

02:45:30.000 Give out that number again.

02:45:32.000 Our office number is 262-673-9745 and the website JPFO.org, where you can learn more about the Battle of Athens, you can learn more about the collusion between the NRA and the ATF.

02:45:45.000 And everybody, regardless of who, Jew or Gentile, can join.

02:45:49.000 Aaron, thanks for coming on with us.

02:45:50.000 Thank you very much, Alex.

02:45:52.000 Take care.

02:45:53.000 I hope we're talking again in a few months.

02:45:54.000 Take care.

02:45:55.000 Let's go ahead, thank you, Aaron.

02:45:56.000 Let's go ahead and bring up Gary in Colorado.

02:45:59.000 We put the photo up on the video feed.

02:46:01.000 He's watching.

02:46:01.000 I've since then gone and looked on another computer.

02:46:04.000 That is on all the photos.

02:46:06.000 And it is.

02:46:06.000 They have their kills on the side of the tank.

02:46:09.000 And I remember seeing those from World War II in Korea and Vietnam and Iraq.

02:46:14.000 Now they put kills on the tanks.

02:46:17.000 Again, the military kills enemies.

02:46:18.000 We have a militarized police.

02:46:19.000 We're the enemy.

02:46:20.000 We die.

02:46:21.000 Gary, tell us about this as a tanker.

02:46:24.000 Oh, hi Alex.

02:46:24.000 How are you?

02:46:26.000 Um, yeah.

02:46:27.000 I'll give you a little background.

02:46:28.000 I was a U.S.

02:46:30.000 Army tank crewman.

02:46:32.000 I drove those vehicles, M113s and M60 main battle tanks for the United States Army in the early 1980s.

02:46:40.000 And it was a common practice, and has been for a very long time, to kind of brag about your combat victories by painting a kill mark on the side of your tank every time you scored a hit or a kill.

02:46:57.000 I found that image.

02:46:59.000 That image, by the way, credits back to Google Images, but that image was released right after the raid took place at the church.

02:47:06.000 It hit all the media outlets.

02:47:08.000 But when I finally got a chance to look very closely at that armored vehicle, I was kind of shocked that police agencies are now painting kill marks on the side of their tracked vehicles.

02:47:20.000 Good God, it's over.

02:47:24.000 Yeah, it was pretty bizarre.

02:47:26.000 It's actually pretty bizarre.

02:47:27.000 Actually looking at the way those individuals went in armed to raid a church full of women and children.

02:47:37.000 I'm kind of speechless.

02:47:39.000 I mean, I... Well, for those that don't know, we're going to hold you over there in the break and then get Chuck Baldwin on after in the main show.

02:47:45.000 I've got the image up.

02:47:46.000 I've got the pointer on the web pointing right where they are.

02:47:49.000 People can go find this for themselves.

02:47:53.000 Bob, who's in there running the show, what was your search to pull this up?

02:47:58.000 Armored vehicle what?

02:47:59.000 I want to tell people the right search to find this.

02:48:02.000 They can find a bunch of photos that have the kills on it.

02:48:04.000 What is it?

02:48:07.000 Okay, Gary sent this to us.

02:48:08.000 Gary, what was the search you did to pull this?

02:48:10.000 Oh, I just went into Google Images and put in, uh, Texas Church Raid.

02:48:16.000 Yeah, Texas Church Raid, and it'll come up.

02:48:18.000 And I just did, um, Sheriff SWAT Vehicle, and it came up.

02:48:22.000 Stay there, we're going to talk during this break.

02:48:24.000 We'll be right back, everybody.

02:48:28.000 Okay, uh, we got three minutes where Chuck Baldwin's on with us.

02:48:31.000 Go ahead and make any other comments, uh, that you've got about this atrocity.

02:48:36.000 Alex, you talking to me?

02:48:36.000 Yeah, we're still on air.

02:48:37.000 Go ahead.

02:48:38.000 All right.

02:48:39.000 Well, it's kind of a strange shift in attitude.

02:48:43.000 Police were always viewed as the protectors of the public and always viewed as honorable men.

02:48:48.000 My wife's father was a police officer in South Florida for over 20 years, had a very honorable and distinguished record.

02:48:55.000 And I'm seeing something very, very fundamental change in these people.

02:49:01.000 These people now view themselves As some sort of frontline combat troops.

02:49:06.000 They don't view themselves as being there to protect and to serve the public any longer.

02:49:10.000 They view themselves as the tip of the spear.

02:49:15.000 You know, the first guys on the scene with guns drawn.

02:49:18.000 They're like they're playing out some fantasy from a John Wayne movie.

02:49:22.000 Yeah, they're the first guys on Normandy.

02:49:25.000 Yeah.

02:49:26.000 And that's like... And our families are German soldiers.

02:49:29.000 I've got goosebumps just talking about this.

02:49:32.000 I was in the military.

02:49:34.000 I mean, there were very distinct lines and rules of engagement, things that you did and didn't do.

02:49:39.000 Yeah, you don't use regular combat troops on civilians.

02:49:43.000 Now we do in war, and now they're going to turn them loose on us.

02:49:46.000 I mean, I wonder who is giving the authorization, because I also belong to a group of collectors and military vehicle enthusiasts.

02:49:54.000 We can't get vehicles and parts to even restore them anymore, because the police agencies are buying them all up.

02:50:02.000 They're buying all the surplus tanks.

02:50:06.000 Think about that for a second.

02:50:07.000 What did you think when you... well, they're gearing up for war against us, it's clear, and then the military industrial complex gets the entire spoils, the entire U.S.

02:50:14.000 When you saw the kill marks on there, two of them are killing citizens, clearly humans, but what's the little box beside them?

02:50:21.000 Is that a car?

02:50:23.000 I'm taking that to represent an automobile.

02:50:25.000 Yeah, a front view of an automobile.

02:50:26.000 So these are guys' houses, held up vets, held up tax protesters.

02:50:30.000 You know, they go in and kill you.

02:50:32.000 I guess that's two guys they've killed, and that's... I've seen videos of SWAT teams celebrating after a kill.

02:50:38.000 Well, yeah, that's what that says to me, because, you know, even... Back when we were driving around, you see, I was in the 1st Infantry Division.

02:50:45.000 We used to get sent to Germany every year to defend against the, quote, communist threat.

02:50:51.000 Waiting for 40,000 Soviet tanks to come through the Folda Gap and invade Germany.

02:50:56.000 And we used to do battle exercises and practice shooting at targets all the time, you know?

02:51:00.000 I mean, it was like, you kept score.

02:51:03.000 That was your scorecard.

02:51:05.000 You painted on the side of your turret how many kills you had.

02:51:09.000 And I'm looking at this vehicle, and it's like, this guy's got kill marks on a civilian police vehicle?

02:51:16.000 That's just... That's past weird.

02:51:20.000 What kind of people do that?

02:51:21.000 Hey, listen.

02:51:22.000 I went in 1999 and watched the Marines trying to kill us.

02:51:27.000 You know what?

02:51:27.000 I'm going to bring you back on the main show, then we're going to get Chuck Baldwin on.

02:51:29.000 Do we have Chuck Baldwin?

02:51:30.000 He's all set.

02:51:31.000 Okay, here we go.

02:51:31.000 Stay there.

02:51:36.000 Yeah, during the breaks I went and checked and it's accurate and I blew it up here for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers that are watching us live right now.

02:51:44.000 The large armored, treaded APC, the USM113 APC that the black ski mask police drove to go into the polygamous compound to violate their due process rights, regardless of what you think of the group, it has two kills on it.

02:52:02.000 And we got an army tanker, he was in there in the 80s in Germany, calling in to say, yeah, that's the kills.

02:52:07.000 And I know our troops in Iraq put kills on, and that's how they look.

02:52:11.000 They'll show a vehicle, they'll show an armored vehicle, they'll show people.

02:52:15.000 And this has got two kills on one side of it, and you can look at other photos, it's there.

02:52:19.000 We've got it blown up for people.

02:52:21.000 In fact, I'll even blow it up even more for folks here.

02:52:27.000 I mean, this is just absolutely amazing.

02:52:31.000 We're about to go to Chuck Baldwin.

02:52:32.000 He's the presidential candidate for the Constitution Party and a great guy.

02:52:37.000 I've interviewed him many times.

02:52:39.000 He's, of course, on a radio show right here on this network and others.

02:52:42.000 A great guy.

02:52:43.000 We wish Ron Paul was running, but hey, when he went in there after the convention, which he said yesterday he wasn't going to be, you heard him, that we need to support Chuck Baldwin.

02:52:53.000 We're about to go to him, but anything else you want to add, Gary?

02:52:58.000 Well, Alex, I just find it really extremely disturbing.

02:53:03.000 I mean, I don't have any delusions about what this government has turned into and what the police agency's role in this are going to be.

02:53:10.000 I'm completely realistic about what's happening.

02:53:14.000 But I do find it disturbing to the degree that these people are up-arming.

02:53:18.000 They're up-arming far beyond anything that would be within the description of domestic police activity.

02:53:25.000 You don't need tanks, and assault rifles, and body armor, and Kevlar helmets, and .50 caliber sniper rifles, and you know, I mean, you don't need that for normal police duty.

02:53:41.000 You need that if you're preparing for war.

02:53:46.000 Plain and simple, that's warfare equipment.

02:53:48.000 That is implements of war.

02:53:51.000 That's stuff that I, as an individual, would need a class 3 License to own most of that gear.

02:54:00.000 And right there are citizens they've murdered, citizens they've killed.

02:54:04.000 They're proud of killing the enemy.

02:54:07.000 And there they are displaying it for everybody to see.

02:54:10.000 God help us, ladies and gentlemen.

02:54:12.000 God help us, is all I can say.

02:54:14.000 Well, thank you for the info, Gary.

02:54:16.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:54:18.000 No problem, Alex.

02:54:19.000 You bet.

02:54:19.000 Let's go ahead now and go to Chuck Baldwin.

02:54:22.000 Chuck, thank you for coming on with us.

02:54:25.000 You're mighty welcome, Alex.

02:54:26.000 Good to talk with you.

02:54:27.000 What do you think of the story you just heard?

02:54:30.000 Well, I was just catching the last few minutes of your conversation while I was waiting to come on, and that is disturbing.

02:54:38.000 One of the things that I have written on, as you have spoken on so eloquently through your program over the years, is the militarization of our local law enforcement.

02:54:48.000 And I find that very disturbing, and if God smiles on our campaign and allows me to take the oath of office for President of these United States of America, that's one thing that my administration will put a serious curtailment upon.

02:55:03.000 We believe that the Constitution of the United States does not provide for Law enforcement to be conducted by the federal government on the most part.

02:55:15.000 It's a local and state matter.

02:55:17.000 We would certainly frown on the militarization of local and state police.

02:55:22.000 We would encourage proper law enforcement at every level and we would certainly not approve of things that happened back in Waco, Texas.

02:55:31.000 I was kind of thinking of that as I was listening to your conversation and how those folks at Waco were killed by Uh, that attack by FBI and ATF agents and so forth.

02:55:43.000 And, uh, that would never happen under my administration.

02:55:47.000 Well, they ran the American flag up over the place they'd burned down, uh, and they, they posed with human skulls.

02:55:54.000 This was, I guess, their coming of manhood.

02:55:56.000 And they're not going to go over and fight insurgents in Iraq.

02:56:00.000 I guess a lot of them are coming back from that.

02:56:02.000 I guess they're going to fight us.

02:56:05.000 Well, that's the impression that people are getting, and I can understand the sentiment of the caller a minute ago that you were speaking with and his concern.

02:56:13.000 You know, one of the things that I think is very discouraging to the American people, and I share it, Is the distrust that is developing between especially the federal government and its citizens.

02:56:26.000 You know that's one of the things that is very important to the security and the safety of our country.

02:56:31.000 There must be a high degree of trust between the people and its government.

02:56:37.000 And whenever we find a situation where there is that trust not in evidence, that does not pretend good things for our country internally or abroad.

02:56:47.000 And one of the things that I would seek to do would have an administration that would be honest and transparent so that the American people could once again trust it.

02:56:57.000 Well, again, I can't think of a finer person to be president.

02:56:59.000 And regardless, you're going to inject real issues into the debate going across the country.

02:57:04.000 You need people's support.

02:57:05.000 We'll give out the campaign website and other contact info.

02:57:07.000 Before you leave us, we want you to be able to check in with us as often as you can, sir, at least every few weeks, to let us know how things are going.

02:57:14.000 I'd love to do that.

02:57:15.000 Well, thank you, Mr. Baldwin.

02:57:16.000 Again, Chuck Baldwin, running for president on the Constitution Party, got that nomination.

02:57:20.000 He's there now.

02:57:25.000 When police start wearing black ski masks, we always knew what it was for, but now documents have come out and the police chief in Boston, one of the suburbs, said that they wear the mask, A, to protect their identity, and B, to intimidate us.

02:57:36.000 I mean, since when does the government want to scare us?

02:57:39.000 And, quote, hide who they are?

02:57:41.000 I mean, is that land of the free, home of the brave, sir?

02:57:43.000 No, that's not our tradition.

02:57:46.000 That's not our heritage whatsoever.

02:57:49.000 I think we have to recognize that over the years we have developed in this country a propensity to militarize our law enforcement.

02:57:58.000 I think we've also had a propensity to globalize our institutions of government.

02:58:04.000 Instead of looking out for the best interests of the United States, we seem to be concerned about international interests and global interests.

02:58:12.000 And right down there where you are in Texas, I mean, you've got this immigration situation that It's absolutely disgraceful.

02:58:19.000 Why in the world are we sending troops, including National Guard troops, to Iraq to guard the borders of that country while we leave the borders of the United States wide open?

02:58:29.000 That just makes no sense whatsoever.

02:58:31.000 You've got the NAFTA superhighway coming up from Mexico into your state and going up into the middle of our country and all the way up to Canada eventually.

02:58:39.000 You know, you have the complete breakdown of law and order along the border.

02:58:45.000 I mean, you talk about the potential of criminal activity, MS-13 coming across the border.

02:58:50.000 We've got gun violence and even paramilitary and military violence right along the border with Mexico with gang activity.

02:58:58.000 We have mass deaths, police being killed, but they won't send armored vehicles down there.

02:59:03.000 Our troops are told to turn back and run.

02:59:05.000 Our troops can't have ammo, but they can have ammo against us, the American people.

02:59:10.000 All they're building defense for is to keep us from getting out.

02:59:13.000 They admit that.

02:59:14.000 The illegals are going to be allowed in under the SPP plan.

02:59:17.000 What would you do if you were president, Chuck Baldwin, immediately?

02:59:21.000 Because this is something you could do, because Congress hasn't been allowed to see SPP be involved in it.

02:59:26.000 It's all being done executively, so you could dismantle it from the executive.

02:59:30.000 And the day that I'm sworn in as president, the SPP is dead.

02:59:30.000 Absolutely.

02:59:34.000 The North American Union is dead.

02:59:36.000 The NAFTA superhighway is dead.

02:59:38.000 The NAFTA agreement is dead.

02:59:41.000 The CAFTA agreement is dead.

02:59:43.000 FTAA is dead.

02:59:45.000 All of those issues are dead on arrival the day that I take the White House.

02:59:50.000 We would put our National Guard troops on the border.

02:59:53.000 We don't have to have a fence.

02:59:54.000 I mean, I'm not opposed to the fence to secure the border, but I'm saying that we don't have to have a fence to secure the border.

03:00:04.000 You're right.

03:00:06.000 They're building maybe 100 miles, they built like 55 miles of it.

03:00:09.000 It's designed for quote, animals to go under it, so it's got four foot holes in it.

03:00:13.000 I mean, it's a complete joke.

03:00:15.000 What we need is to prosecute employers and that'll shut it down real fast.

03:00:18.000 Absolutely.

03:00:19.000 That's the second plank of my platform in that regard.

03:00:21.000 The first is to use our Border Patrol and our National Guard and any other force that we need to secure the border.

03:00:28.000 I mean, we're going to shut it down.

03:00:29.000 We're going to close the border.

03:00:30.000 And then the second thing we're going to do is we're going to drop the money supply.

03:00:33.000 And the way you do that is just by what you said.

03:00:35.000 We're on the same page.

03:00:37.000 I would aggressively prosecute any employer who hires illegal aliens.

03:00:41.000 I mean, they don't pass gold.

03:00:42.000 They don't collect $200.

03:00:43.000 They go straight to jail.

03:00:45.000 When you shut down the food supply, the illegal aliens are going to go home.

03:00:50.000 It's plainly that simple.

03:00:51.000 Exactly.

03:00:52.000 Forget fences.

03:00:53.000 That's the only way to keep us in.

03:00:54.000 I mean, at the big crossing areas, I say build them for security.

03:00:58.000 But the key is go after the employers.

03:01:01.000 Absolutely, and being willing to use whatever force is necessary on the border to keep people out.

03:01:06.000 Oh, listen, that's what our military is for, as you know, is that when Mexican troops come across three miles and kidnap the sheriffs and drag a truck full of cocaine back across, immediately an airstrike is called in and those troops are all killed.

03:01:20.000 And we've already had two wars with Mexico and like 20 skirmishes.

03:01:24.000 They want to attack us again.

03:01:25.000 I say we go all the way to Mexico City.

03:01:27.000 I am tired of this country that hates our guts attacking us.

03:01:31.000 Well, and then we have the Republican nominee, John McCain, who is going to be speaking to La Raza, which is an organization that is funded by people that actually believe that Mexico is going to retake the southwestern United States for itself.

03:01:45.000 I mean, these are people that are, that see a potential war situation developing.

03:01:51.000 They actually want to reclaim the Southwestern U.S.

03:01:54.000 for Mexico.

03:01:55.000 And no blacks and whites, no blacks and whites on their own charter.

03:01:58.000 Their motto, of course you know this.

03:02:00.000 For our race, everything.

03:02:01.000 Those outside the race, nothing.

03:02:03.000 Why doesn't he go talk to the Ku Klux Klan?

03:02:05.000 I mean, they're just as distasteful, but they don't have 30 million members.

03:02:09.000 Well, it's plainly pandering to a Hispanic element for votes.

03:02:14.000 But the point is, does John McCain not realize the kind of people that are behind LaRosa?

03:02:21.000 Does he not understand their agenda?

03:02:23.000 And I'm of the belief that he does understand, and yet he's still willing to do this.

03:02:27.000 And I think what this demonstrates is this international... I mean, I just heard him on CNN News a few hours ago, John McCain, and he was talking about how that The people of Latin America and the United States have a common destiny.

03:02:41.000 That was his quote.

03:02:42.000 A common destiny.

03:02:43.000 Now, where did he get that from?

03:02:44.000 That's not from the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence.

03:02:47.000 That's not from any of our founding documents or sentiments of the Founding Fathers.

03:02:51.000 What is this common destiny stuff?

03:02:53.000 The United States of America is a free, independent, and sovereign state.

03:02:57.000 But people like John McCain want to merge us into a globalistic empire.

03:03:02.000 Chuck Baldwin, stay with us.

03:03:03.000 We'll give out campaign websites, contact points, phone numbers for folks that want to volunteer and get involved.

03:03:09.000 Bottom line, whether you've got a snowball chance at hell of winning or not, you've got a chance of really injecting real issues and having a big effect.

03:03:17.000 And I think you can get a lot of votes if people get behind you.

03:03:20.000 I know Ron Paul would have.

03:03:22.000 Chuck Baldwin.

03:03:27.000 It is a big idea.

03:03:28.000 A new world order.

03:03:31.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

03:03:36.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

03:03:39.000 Couldn't their objective be world domination?

03:03:42.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

03:03:45.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.

03:03:55.000 For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.

03:04:01.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.

03:04:05.000 Bill of Rights is making great progress toward a world government.

03:04:07.000 Most people have no idea.

03:04:08.000 They're not after money.

03:04:09.000 They have all the money they need.

03:04:10.000 They're after power.

03:04:11.000 That's their aphrodisiac.

03:04:13.000 Order In Game on DVD at PrisonPlanet.com or InfoWars.com.

03:04:17.000 Or watch it online right now at PrisonPlanet.tv.

03:04:25.000 We're already under a scientific dictatorship.

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03:08:08.000 We had Governor Jesse Ventura on for 50 minutes.

03:08:14.000 Huge breaking news.

03:08:16.000 On the senatorial run, on 9-11, making an inside job, and a lot more.

03:08:20.000 When this radio show ends in about 40 minutes, 35 minutes, Ventura was on immediately when the broadcast started.

03:08:27.000 It's not posted anywhere yet.

03:08:28.000 If you want the audio, it'll be restreamed at InfoWars.com right when the show ends.

03:08:35.000 Talking to Chuck Baldwin, running for president right now on the Constitution Party ticket.

03:08:38.000 Glad he got the nomination, one of their best candidates in a long time.

03:08:41.000 They tried to put in Alan Keyes, who is a former UN ambassador, globalist, fake conservative.

03:08:47.000 I know you like Alan, he seems like a nice guy, wolf in sheep's clothing.

03:08:50.000 I know you don't want to say anything mean, Mr. Baldwin, but I'm glad that you got it.

03:08:57.000 Well, thank you very much, and I was really a little surprised and even shocked might be the word at the margin of victory.

03:09:06.000 Allen really lobbied hard for the nomination.

03:09:09.000 He brought in his staff at the convention there in Kansas City.

03:09:14.000 They were button-holing delegates throughout the week and taking them up to the room and talking with them and lobbying them, of course, for their votes, etc., and really a lot of work was done.

03:09:25.000 By them, and Alan is a very articulate, intelligent, educated man.

03:09:30.000 He's a great personality.

03:09:32.000 But he's a neocon!

03:09:33.000 He's a neocon!

03:09:34.000 Yeah, well, what I'm saying is that he brought his message to the convention.

03:09:39.000 And I think in the end, while I and so many others appreciate his stand on abortion and things of that nature, It was his issues regarding foreign policy, etc.

03:09:50.000 Some of the issues that you talk about all the time on your program.

03:09:53.000 Things that I write about in my columns.

03:09:55.000 And the Constitution Party just could not accept it.

03:09:59.000 And when the vote was made, it was 74% for Chuck Baldwin and 24% for Alan Keyes.

03:10:04.000 So really, I won on the strength of the message.

03:10:07.000 It wasn't personality.

03:10:09.000 It was the message.

03:10:10.000 And I think that's a signal that all this fake conservative stuff's over.

03:10:14.000 We're done?

03:10:14.000 I mean, can you believe McCain?

03:10:17.000 An open border, pro-abortion, gun control, pro-war, New World Order piece of trash, and that's who the Republican nominee is.

03:10:26.000 I wrote in a column just a couple days ago with Obama, Hillary and McCain, what we have is three peas in a pod, because really when you look at their policies and their positions, there's very little difference between them.

03:10:40.000 I think that many of the Christians and many of the conservatives this year are looking for an alternative.

03:10:46.000 Oh yeah, you're running in the strongest year I've ever thought of for a Constitution party, for a true conservative party.

03:10:52.000 And I know you've got Howard Phelps behind you with his big coalition.

03:10:55.000 I want to get him on soon.

03:10:56.000 Fire out your website for folks who want to get involved.

03:10:59.000 Thank you very much, Alan, for letting me do that.

03:11:01.000 It's baldwin2008.com.

03:11:03.000 That's baldwin2008.com.

03:11:06.000 And we just had, just to let your audience know, we've had two retired Brigadier Generals That have officially endorsed our campaign.

03:11:17.000 Brigadier General Charles Jones and Brigadier General Ben Parton have come out and publicly supported our campaign.

03:11:26.000 They realize what's going on in this country that affects our military and they are very proud and happy to support us.

03:11:32.000 And we're excited about that.

03:11:33.000 And I think that more of the military people, as they listen to us, as they hear us, they're going to like the message.

03:11:39.000 Because it's the message of truth.

03:11:40.000 It's the message of the Founding Fathers.

03:11:42.000 It's the message of freedom, of independence.

03:11:45.000 Well, that's now known as the message of Al-Qaeda.

03:11:48.000 I mean, I'm sure you've seen all the training manuals and news articles where they arrest you, you have an anti-UN sticker, the police are being trained that the Founding Fathers are bad.

03:11:57.000 I mean, how did we ever get this far?

03:12:00.000 Well, it's been about a half-century process.

03:12:03.000 It started back in the late 50s, early 60s, as you know, and it's been increasingly intensifying since then.

03:12:10.000 I think they've set a goal, they, the globalists, the New World Order types, Have set a goal to have all this come to fruition by 2010, and then later 2015 to bring it all together.

03:12:23.000 2010 for the Northern Hemisphere, and then 2015 for the world.

03:12:29.000 They want to bring America into this North American Union, very similar to the European Union, complete with an Amaro.

03:12:35.000 And Jerry Corsi, who supports us, has done Yeoman's work of research on this particular regard, and he's a great guy.

03:12:43.000 And they want to bring that in by 2010.

03:12:45.000 And if any of these three candidates, McCain or the two Democrats, get in office, it's going to be a reality.

03:12:53.000 They're going to push it through.

03:12:54.000 If I get in, we're going to stop it.

03:12:56.000 Pastor Baldwin, stay there.

03:12:57.000 I want to come back and give you just five more minutes on the side.

03:13:00.000 I know you're busy.

03:13:01.000 So give us your basic platform without me interrupting.

03:13:03.000 Then I've got a bunch of news I'm going to blitz through, ladies and gentlemen.

03:13:07.000 Uh, that I haven't even gotten to with all these huge guests today.

03:13:09.000 Ron Paul yesterday, Jesse Ventura today, Chuck Baldwin today.

03:13:12.000 And it only gets better throughout this week and next week.

03:13:15.000 We'll be right back.

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03:16:47.000 A month and a half ago, when he said 9-11 was an inside job, he went even further today on the show, and then during the break told me, well, they're coming after me now.

03:16:57.000 Two years ago, I gave him my films, that woke him up partially, then he said his son made him watch Loose Change, woke him up all the way, and he's going public there.

03:17:05.000 Shifting gears back to the Constitution Party presidential nominee, I couldn't think of a better one, and when I heard it was Alan Keyes before, I was cringing.

03:17:14.000 Acts nice, acts friendly, he's right on so many issues, but he's a neocon at heart, and I've just had enough of it.

03:17:21.000 I've had it!

03:17:22.000 And a true conservative, a true freedom fighter, a true American, a great writer, a great researcher, a great pastor, Chuck Baldwin.

03:17:31.000 Chuck, in closing, give people your basic rundown, what you're going to be out there preaching, the message of liberty, what your message is, what your platform is, what you would do.

03:17:40.000 Thank you, Alex.

03:17:41.000 Well, we would do what we said a moment ago.

03:17:43.000 The first thing we would do is close that border.

03:17:46.000 We would end illegal immigration.

03:17:47.000 We would get out of the North American Union, the NAFTA superhighway, get out of NAFTA, CAFTA, the FTAA, the so-called free trade deals, their history.

03:17:58.000 The New World Order comes crashing down the day that I take office.

03:18:02.000 We would end foreign aid.

03:18:04.000 No more nation building, empire building, interventionism around the world.

03:18:09.000 My goal would be to get America out of the United Nations entirely and get the United Nations out of America.

03:18:16.000 We would get out of UNESCO.

03:18:18.000 We would get out of NATO.

03:18:20.000 We would do our best to overturn the 16th Amendment and the personal income tax.

03:18:25.000 We would lead the charge to get rid of the Federal Reserve System.

03:18:30.000 We would try to restore the Constitution again to America.

03:18:34.000 Limited government freedom.

03:18:36.000 We would restore the Fourth Amendment.

03:18:38.000 The Patriot Act is abysmal.

03:18:40.000 This incessant spying and eavesdropping on American citizens without warrant in the name of security is atrocious.

03:18:48.000 It stops the day that I take office.

03:18:51.000 We're going to restore constitutional government to America, Alex.

03:18:55.000 We're going to restore freedom to America.

03:18:57.000 We're going to bring our troops home from Iraq.

03:18:59.000 We're not just going to talk about it, we're going to do it.

03:19:01.000 The next time we invade a country, we're going to have a declaration of war before we do it.

03:19:06.000 We're not going to allow our troops to be the personal militia for the United Nations.

03:19:11.000 We're going to protect America, our territory, our people.

03:19:15.000 We're going to fight whenever it's necessary for our country.

03:19:19.000 But we are not going to be tools for the United Nations anymore.

03:19:22.000 We're going to protect what is our interest, not the interest of the United Nations and the global corporate leaders of this world.

03:19:30.000 So, we have a vision of freedom.

03:19:32.000 It's the same vision that our founding fathers gave us over 200 years ago.

03:19:36.000 It's the message that we're going to take to the American people.

03:19:39.000 And as I told the Constitution Party in my acceptance speech a few weeks ago, Alex, in Kansas City, the problem is not that the American people have rejected our message.

03:19:48.000 The media would have us believe that.

03:19:50.000 That's not true.

03:19:51.000 The American people have not heard our message.

03:19:54.000 We're, you know, we've not been able to get into the debates.

03:19:57.000 They try to ignore us.

03:19:58.000 They ignored Ron Paul.

03:20:00.000 And by the way, I think you know this, that I was a supporter of Ron Paul's during the primary season.

03:20:05.000 I campaigned for him aggressively in several states.

03:20:09.000 I wrote copiously on his behalf.

03:20:11.000 And I believe in his message.

03:20:12.000 And I know that the media did everything they could to keep him out of the debates and to mistreat him.

03:20:18.000 They do that all the time.

03:20:19.000 Here's another point I want to throw in just briefly.

03:20:21.000 I am not going to be supporting libertarian presidential candidates, CIA officer, pro-drug war, pro-gun control votes.

03:20:28.000 He then acts like he's a good guy on the NRA board, Bob Barr.

03:20:32.000 He is just there to neutralize and make sure that party goes nowhere.

03:20:37.000 And I can say that authoritatively.

03:20:38.000 I wouldn't trust Bob Barr as far as you can throw him.

03:20:41.000 And I've had him on a few times.

03:20:42.000 He knows full well who I am.

03:20:44.000 And I just don't trust him.

03:20:45.000 I trust you.

03:20:46.000 So Ron Paul better put his support behind you once he's out of it after the convention.

03:20:52.000 I talked to Ron Paul just last week in Washington.

03:20:56.000 He's very supportive of our campaign.

03:20:56.000 We had a good talk.

03:20:59.000 He and I have been friends for a long time, and I'm glad to call him my friend.

03:21:03.000 Let me tell you something.

03:21:04.000 I really believe that we are at a historic opportunity in our country, Alex.

03:21:09.000 I think the American people are beginning to recognize that the two major parties are marching in the same direction with the same agenda, motivated and funded by the same people, and I believe that many of the American people are looking for an alternative.

03:21:23.000 We need help.

03:21:24.000 We need help in our campaign financially, as you do on your show.

03:21:28.000 I trust that your listeners will support your money bomb and will help you.

03:21:31.000 I'd like to think that some folks would find us worthy and would help us.

03:21:35.000 I have an 800 number that if I could give out.

03:21:39.000 Yeah, give that out.

03:21:40.000 We're trying to get on the write-in ballot in Texas as well, and if your supporters down there in the great state of Texas could help us, that would be greatly appreciated.

03:21:49.000 The number that anybody can call that would like to help us is 1-800 Two, that's the number two, 1-800-2-VETO-IRS.

03:21:58.000 That's 1-800-2-VETO-IRS.

03:22:02.000 Also, the Constitution Party website is constitutionparty.com.

03:22:06.000 All one word, constitutionparty.com.

03:22:09.000 My website is baldwin2008.com.

03:22:11.000 It's not quite...

03:22:13.000 We're not finished yet.

03:22:14.000 Hopefully by the end of this week, the webpage in its entirety will be up and so forth.

03:22:20.000 But right now, people can donate online at Baldwin2008.com.

03:22:24.000 Well, we really appreciate you coming on.

03:22:26.000 I want to get you back in the next few weeks to take calls and really flesh some things out.

03:22:30.000 But I'm supporting you, Pastor Baldwin, Chuck Baldwin, at Baldwin2008.com.

03:22:35.000 Thanks for spending time with us.

03:22:36.000 Very happy to do so, and thank you, Alex, very much.

03:22:38.000 Keep up the good work.

03:22:39.000 Take care, sir.

03:22:40.000 Well, that's a great American right there.

03:22:44.000 He just now reminded me of our money bomb.

03:22:46.000 I don't know, I think it's like $45,000 people have pledged.

03:22:50.000 I started plugging it last Thursday, last Friday.

03:22:52.000 You know, Ron Paul could raise $7 million, $6.5 million on one money bomb.

03:22:56.000 We don't expect to do that.

03:22:58.000 But you have my word that we will spend 100% of the money that comes on this money bomb will go into office, staff, computers, cameras, airtime.

03:23:10.000 And by air time, I'm going to start doing a more official internet, you know, TV news show that's well, you know, highly produced every day.

03:23:18.000 And then I'm going to put that on Dish Network and we have the big enough buzz of DirecTV of the 30-something million, 50-something million subscribers on another to get everybody to tune in.

03:23:28.000 Kind of a hardcore democracy now.

03:23:30.000 They have tens of millions of viewers.

03:23:32.000 We could do that very quickly.

03:23:33.000 With a lot of money, with a million dollars or something, we could do it overnight.

03:23:36.000 We could do it in a few weeks.

03:23:38.000 Crawling the way I do with having to spend a little bit of savings I've got and mess with personnel and not have enough staff six months a year.

03:23:47.000 So, go to my website, buy all my books and videos.

03:23:50.000 If you want to do that as a donation, where you know you're getting something, you can get out to other folks down at Effect.

03:23:54.000 There's a markup of all the items, so that funds us.

03:23:57.000 Or, you could just sign up for the Money Bomb.

03:23:59.000 It's happening next week.

03:24:01.000 It's happening not this weekend, but next weekend on Saturday, the 31st of May.

03:24:05.000 That's when folks decided to do it.

03:24:07.000 I wasn't involved.

03:24:08.000 Mr. Nordstrom, Uh, Air Force officer and uh, but it's our site, it's going to be our PayPal.

03:24:14.000 People are asking, is this you?

03:24:16.000 It's going to be our PayPal.

03:24:16.000 Yes.

03:24:17.000 We're going to have a toll free number for that 24 hours with a couple people here answering the phones to take your donation.

03:24:24.000 And we need your support.

03:24:25.000 We need your help.

03:24:27.000 And uh, if you want to write us a check now and say it's for the money bomb, we'll add that towards the total then.

03:24:31.000 Or if you want to uh, buy the books and videos now.

03:24:35.000 We just need to see a lot of capital come in.

03:24:37.000 And 50,000, 100,000, 200,000 is the bare minimum.

03:24:41.000 And I was intending just to crawl... About a week and a half ago, two weeks ago, I was thinking, should I just go for a weekend show on free speech TV, you know, style deal?

03:24:53.000 And I'm like, well that cost almost as much to build the stage, buy the cameras, set it up, put in the blue screen or monitors, produce video to play in the background to make it look good, mainstream to really affect people, really reach the mainstream.

03:25:09.000 You know, I don't know what I should do.

03:25:10.000 Should I go ahead and get this big office?

03:25:11.000 Should I go ahead and do this?

03:25:12.000 And I was kind of hesitating, and then Money Bomb pops out of nowhere, without me even mentioning it, and I think that's a sign.

03:25:21.000 And so, 100%, you know I fight like nobody else.

03:25:23.000 You know I'm always doing interviews, always on the air, always getting the word out, always trying to do a better job.

03:25:29.000 The economy's going to hell in a handbasket.

03:25:30.000 I know it's hard to donate.

03:25:32.000 I know it's hard to give, but I'm going all the way, you know.

03:25:38.000 I'm going to go to Virginia in two weeks, week and a half.

03:25:41.000 If they're really having Bilderberg, I'm going to go to that.

03:25:42.000 Believe me, it's not fun.

03:25:44.000 Being having goons follow you around and the rest of it, being harassed.

03:25:47.000 But I'm going to do it, because it's a commitment.

03:25:49.000 I mean, I'm going all the way for humanity.

03:25:51.000 And I'm in this for the long haul.

03:25:54.000 I'm Mr. Real.

03:25:55.000 And I will spend 100% of the money you give me towards fighting the New World Order.

03:26:00.000 That's my pledge.

03:26:02.000 In fact, a lot of the money that comes in, I'm going to match with my meager savings.

03:26:05.000 I don't want to blow the savings we've got so this operation can handle litigation if we're litigated, so we can litigate if need be, so we can pay employees and keep going if all the money was shot off tomorrow.

03:26:16.000 We've tried to build a bulwark to be somewhat resilient.

03:26:19.000 Like, I had extra bandwidth and extra servers, now those have been used up.

03:26:23.000 I got one CDN that's $5,000 a month, another that's, what, $8,500 a month?

03:26:28.000 And then the other servers, so that's like...

03:26:33.000 What's 8,700 and 4,800 or whatever it is, and then the other servers, I guess that's more like 15,000 in servers.

03:26:43.000 It's about, you know, more than that.

03:26:45.000 16,000 in servers.

03:26:48.000 I pay for WWCR 10 grand a month, or nine and a half.

03:26:52.000 I pay for, you know, 14 employees.

03:26:59.000 So, a lot of money comes in here.

03:27:02.000 And I've been successful because not only am I impassioned, somewhat intelligent, hardworking, it's kind of a perfect storm in that I also spend my money on fighting the New World Order.

03:27:14.000 My car's got bald tires and I've got money to put new tires on it.

03:27:17.000 I'm so busy and don't have the staff or assistants that I have driving around on bald tires.

03:27:22.000 They're so dangerous, I need to get those fixed.

03:27:25.000 My A.C.' 's broke and it's already 95 degrees down here.

03:27:28.000 I've been driving around for a month with no A.C.

03:27:30.000 and now it's just hellish because I don't have time.

03:27:31.000 I just want to have an A.C.

03:27:33.000 I'm not whining, I'm saying I'm so focused like a bird dog chasing a quail.

03:27:37.000 I mean, I am like a dog chasing a rabbit.

03:27:39.000 I mean, I am dedicated.

03:27:41.000 Is there anyone that is more a slave for you, that fights for you?

03:27:45.000 I mean, I am consumed.

03:27:47.000 I just constantly am obsessed with liberty and freedom.

03:27:50.000 I wake up in the middle of the night.

03:27:50.000 I'm freaked out.

03:27:52.000 I'm not whining here.

03:27:52.000 I'm not crying.

03:27:54.000 I am committed like no one else.

03:27:57.000 And I need more personnel.

03:28:00.000 I need bigger offices.

03:28:01.000 I need them now.

03:28:02.000 Infowarsmoneybomb.com I also have sponsors that support us.

03:28:02.000 Moneybomb.

03:28:08.000 I also have PrisonPlanet.tv when you're a member there.

03:28:10.000 Go become a member right now.

03:28:12.000 I want to see thousands of you go be members.

03:28:14.000 That would help us right there.

03:28:16.000 15 cents a day, $5.95 a month, 3 months free.

03:28:19.000 And you know, kind of here at the end of this hour, Jesse Ventura is coming up in 15 minutes.

03:28:23.000 Incredible interview.

03:28:24.000 This is a new one.

03:28:24.000 This happened today on the 20th of May 2008.

03:28:27.000 Not the one we did a month and a half ago that was groundbreaking.

03:28:29.000 We need your help.

03:28:31.000 I'm helping you.

03:28:32.000 I can't carry the ball without you.

03:28:32.000 I need your help.

03:28:33.000 I need you to get the video that's going to be posted in the next 30 minutes at PrisonPlanet.com TV.

03:28:43.000 I need you to cut that up.

03:28:45.000 Cut out the phone company.

03:28:46.000 Cutting in while Ventura was on about 15 times saying hello, hello.

03:28:50.000 We don't even have the staff to edit that.

03:28:51.000 We're just throwing it out there.

03:28:54.000 Help us get that.

03:28:55.000 Edit the best parts together.

03:28:56.000 I know there's a hundred of you.

03:28:57.000 Don't count on somebody else to do it.

03:28:58.000 A hundred of you that edit our shows.

03:28:59.000 Get it up now.

03:29:00.000 Get it out to the press, the media, so it has an effect, so they attack 9-11 Truth again, so more people find out what's happening.

03:29:06.000 This is life and death.

03:29:06.000 This is a fight.

03:29:07.000 I've committed my life to this.

03:29:09.000 Another way we fund this operation, it's very meager with the deals he offers, is Ted Anderson offering gold and silver, and I've asked him, it's about a 4% markup on average, and that lets him take the order and put a little bit into the network.

03:29:26.000 People complain about 4 or 5% markups, it's insane, but he does happen to have silver dollars back in, silver's way up, gold went way back up, because oil just hit $130 a barrel.

03:29:39.000 Folks, it's going to go up and up.

03:29:41.000 It'll probably go up to $145 in the summer, I'm guessing, and then it'll go back down to $120 during the winter.

03:29:48.000 But then in a year from now, it's going to be $200.

03:29:50.000 I mean, that's how they do it.

03:29:51.000 I know their plan.

03:29:52.000 We have spies inside them.

03:29:54.000 I called the head of the Kissinger Group.

03:29:55.000 He knows who I am.

03:29:56.000 Starts laughing at me with an evil giggle.

03:29:59.000 I mean, this is serious, folks.

03:30:00.000 There's a bullet with my name on it.

03:30:02.000 We've got to beat them.

03:30:04.000 So, Ted Anderson comes on with us right now.

03:30:06.000 Hadn't been on in about a month.

03:30:08.000 Ted, you got some gold, you got some silver offers for folks today.

03:30:11.000 Gold and silver are both going back up again.

03:30:13.000 They can't suppress it.

03:30:15.000 Ted, thanks for coming on with us.

03:30:16.000 Hey, it's always a pleasure to be on, Alex, and I really love the idea that Chuck Baldwin's running for president and running on that platform.

03:30:22.000 I mean, I can't believe it that we have somebody stepping in like that.

03:30:26.000 I mean, the Republican Party most definitely should have endorsed Ron Paul.

03:30:31.000 All the conservative candidates had to quit.

03:30:34.000 And here we end up with this liberal.

03:30:36.000 I mean, it's like, why don't we just give the country away?

03:30:41.000 I'm really happy to hear Baldwin step up to the plate.

03:30:46.000 What a thankless cause that is, I can tell you right now.

03:30:49.000 Yeah, you're right.

03:30:50.000 Right now, I'm offering Walking Liberty half-silver pieces because I mean, I couldn't get these for, what, three months there, Alex?

03:30:57.000 I had to stop selling them.

03:31:00.000 Silver went down to about $16 an ounce.

03:31:02.000 Right now it's high at $17.71.

03:31:05.000 The dollar continues to fall.

03:31:07.000 Oil continues to rise.

03:31:09.000 And the silver market is finally coming back up again.

03:31:12.000 And I locked these in at $16.50 an ounce.

03:31:17.000 And it's a really good buy.

03:31:18.000 The Walking Liberty Halves right now, I trade them in rolls of $20.

03:31:22.000 They're $182 a roll of $20.

03:31:24.000 Last time I've been able to sell these things, they were closer to $250.

03:31:29.000 So right now, at $18.20 per dollar face, and silver at $17.71 per dollar face, it's almost at parity.

03:31:40.000 It's really a very good buy, Alex.

03:31:42.000 There's no question about it.

03:31:44.000 I also have the British Sovereign gold pieces.

03:31:46.000 I pick those up at the lower price, too.

03:31:49.000 The British Sovereigns right now are at $250 apiece, and I recommend them, too.

03:31:54.000 But I can tell you right now, Alex, Just three months ago, I wasn't 100% sure if I was going to be able to deliver everything I sold.

03:32:02.000 I was very nervous about that.

03:32:04.000 We got everything that the people bought from us have got all of it.

03:32:10.000 I right now have the ability to sell these Walking Liberty half silver pieces, and I also have the ability to sell it at about a buck under spot.

03:32:18.000 You know, because spot went up that much since I locked these in.

03:32:21.000 And right now, Alex, this is a really good time to buy it, and obviously, We're doing it here to support you and support the network as well, but that's not even the issue.

03:32:30.000 People need to get out of U.S.

03:32:33.000 dollar.

03:32:33.000 The U.S.

03:32:34.000 dollar is dead.

03:32:35.000 If you haven't realized that yet, wake up.

03:32:38.000 Because the United States dollar, we're about ready to receive, every single one of us that file a tax form is about ready to receive 600 bucks.

03:32:48.000 Most everybody will deposit that into the bank.

03:32:50.000 And by the way, they're going to take that letter in taxes with interest.

03:32:53.000 Oh, it's a total gimmick.

03:32:55.000 It's putting us further on the hook.

03:32:57.000 Debt to the Federal Reserve System is what's going on, but we're going to take that money, deposit it in the bank, and the banking system is going to multiply that by ten times the money supply.

03:33:06.000 What do you think is going to happen to the value of the dollar when that happens?

03:33:09.000 We are definitely in a position right now that the United States dollar is doomed.

03:33:14.000 Ted, give them the number.

03:33:16.000 Tell them about the offers.

03:33:17.000 Okay, right now, again, we're offering the Walking Liberty Half.

03:33:21.000 The Walking Liberty Half is currently right now trading at $182 per roll at $20.

03:33:24.000 1-800-686-2237.

03:33:24.000 He's got it in stock.

03:33:25.000 It's shooting back up.

03:33:26.000 This is at the price he got it a few days ago.

03:33:29.000 It's already gone up a couple bucks.

03:33:30.000 Since then, 1-800-686-2237.

03:33:31.000 686-2237.

03:33:32.000 He's got it in stock.

03:33:33.000 It's shooting back up.

03:33:35.000 This is at the price.

03:33:35.000 He got it a few days ago.

03:33:37.000 It's already gone up a couple bucks.

03:33:38.000 Since then, 1-800-686-2237.

03:33:43.000 Are you offering any gold, Ted?

03:33:44.000 Yeah, we do.

03:33:45.000 Like I said, we do have the British Sovereign coin.

03:33:47.000 They're at 250.

03:33:49.000 We've also talked about that Frank coin, and right now they're currently at 199.

03:33:52.000 1-800-686-2237.

03:33:53.000 Two gold coins, one silver coin.

03:33:55.000 These half dollars are gorgeous.

03:33:55.000 686-2237.

03:33:57.000 Two gold coins, one silver coin.

03:34:00.000 These half dollars are gorgeous.

03:34:01.000 Are those the ones from World War II?

03:34:03.000 Yeah, they're the ones back in World War II.

03:34:05.000 I got a bag of those.

03:34:06.000 I love them.

03:34:07.000 1-800-686-2237.

03:34:09.000 1-800-686-2237.

03:34:10.000 Give Ted's brokers a call right now.

03:34:14.000 Get your orders in now.

03:34:15.000 Convert Federal Reserve notes before they totally evaporate.

03:34:18.000 This is a buying opportunity.

03:34:19.000 1-800-686-2237.

03:34:20.000 Thanks, Ted.

03:34:21.000 Yeah, thanks for having me up here.

03:34:24.000 Final segment straight ahead.

03:34:27.000 It is a big idea.

03:34:29.000 A new world order.

03:34:31.000 In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.

03:34:36.000 It's known as the Bilderberg Group.

03:34:39.000 Could their objective be world domination?

03:34:42.000 For thousands of years, their dark order grew.

03:34:45.000 Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.

03:34:55.000 For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.

03:35:01.000 You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.

03:35:05.000 Bill of Rights is making great progress toward a world government.

03:35:07.000 Most people have no idea.

03:35:08.000 They're not after money.

03:35:09.000 They have all the money they need.

03:35:11.000 They're after power.

03:35:12.000 That's their aphrodisiac.

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03:35:17.000 Or watch it online right now at PrisonPlanet.tv.

03:35:21.000 Endgame, blueprint for global enslavement.

03:35:24.000 You have been warned.

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03:37:43.000 For a man is What an incredible four-hour radio show today.

03:37:50.000 We're about to conclude.

03:37:51.000 The minute the next show starts at InfoWars, if you're listening on the internet to the InfoWars streams, you've got to go there.

03:37:58.000 People keep getting confused.

03:37:59.000 You've got to go to InfoWars.com.

03:38:01.000 The show's on 24 hours a day.

03:38:02.000 It's on 20 hours a day, retransmitted, and we're live for four hours.

03:38:07.000 Sometimes we go over.

03:38:08.000 I interviewed Jesse Ventura.

03:38:09.000 It was an even more hardcore interview for 50 minutes, 51 minutes if you want to get technical.

03:38:14.000 We even did some behind the scenes talking.

03:38:15.000 Those videos are all going up.

03:38:18.000 YouTube's going up in the next few hours, but for members, PrisonPlanet.tv.

03:38:21.000 It's now up on PrisonPlanet.com.

03:38:24.000 Go get it!

03:38:26.000 And it's just amazing.

03:38:28.000 Absolutely amazing.

03:38:29.000 It's nowhere.

03:38:30.000 It hasn't been posted yet.

03:38:31.000 If you want the Jesse Ventura interview, you'll have to tune in in three minutes if you missed it.

03:38:35.000 And we don't have him on at the start of the show to surprise you.

03:38:37.000 That's just when he keeps wanting to do interviews is 11am.

03:38:43.000 Now I'm going to plug a few final news stories because it was 6, 7 yesterday and I didn't have a chance to get to a lot of the news.

03:38:48.000 But remember, our sponsors, that's why I'm doing a lot of plugging here at the end.

03:38:51.000 I had so much that I'm trying to get you to fund us now here at the end of the show.

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03:39:32.000 Those are things that I know are well documented to be good.

03:39:35.000 And like Ted Anderson with the gold and silver.

03:39:38.000 Tiny markup, that's what allows us all to operate and go on here and you get a good deal.

03:39:43.000 You convert your Federal Reserve notes over to something, 1-800-686-2237.

03:39:50.000 And don't forget the Infowars, Moneybomb.com.

03:39:53.000 I mean, I don't want to be, only raise $50,000, $100,000.

03:39:55.000 I think, you know, Ron Paul did half his donations in the first half of his campaign game from this show.

03:40:02.000 I can raise everybody else money but myself.

03:40:04.000 I'd really like to go see a pledge in there to give $10, $100, $50.

03:40:08.000 We will spend it to fight the New World Order.

03:40:10.000 Some of the news, it's just incredible that I didn't get to.

03:40:15.000 And it's all disinfo.

03:40:17.000 Members of Parliament back creation of human-animal embryos.

03:40:20.000 Half-human, half-cow, half-monkey, half-spider.

03:40:22.000 They've been doing this for at least 10 years.

03:40:24.000 They're just now admitting it to the slaves.

03:40:27.000 Oil crosses $129 for the first time, heads for $130.

03:40:31.000 Lieberman sends a letter to Google, demands YouTube censor.

03:40:34.000 By the way, the government has its new office they've set up.

03:40:38.000 They've had hearings, the Radicalization Act, and they list 9-11 truth sites that need to be shut down.

03:40:44.000 They're coming for us, folks.

03:40:46.000 White House denies Army radio report on plan to attack Iran.

03:40:50.000 Israel media says the U.S.

03:40:51.000 has told them they will be attacking Iran before Bush leaves office.

03:40:56.000 Just all this incredible news here.

03:40:57.000 Showdown expected over abortion vote.

03:41:00.000 Good news in England.

03:41:01.000 Members of Parliament are set to vote to ban abortions from up to the day of birth to only 14 weeks.

03:41:09.000 Which isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing.

03:41:12.000 Something good there.

03:41:14.000 Canton Council proposes jail time for tall grass.

03:41:17.000 I remember Roland Ellingston in the early 90's here in Austin, Korean War vet, 3 inch grass, dying of cancer, and they came and arrested him for 3 inch grass.

03:41:27.000 Canton Council says it's all jail time for nothing.

03:41:29.000 General Frankstown's constitutional survive WMD attack.

03:41:33.000 That just goes on and on.

03:41:34.000 Back tomorrow live, 11 to 2 Central Standard Time.

03:41:37.000 Great job, John Harmon.

03:41:39.000 Great job to Bob in there.

03:41:40.000 Great job to all the affiliates, the network, the sponsors, the listeners, all of you.

03:41:47.000 And I want to thank all the PrisonPlanet.TV members.

03:41:49.000 Without you, we couldn't continue.

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03:41:52.000 We're not funded by the Rockefellers like Fox News.

03:41:55.000 So support us.

03:41:56.000 God bless you all.

03:41:57.000 Jesse Ventura at the InfoWars.com streams right now.

03:42:00.000 Tune into InfoWars.com to those streams.

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