On this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg sits down with Texas Grand Jury Investigator Randy Kelton to talk about his experience with the Texas grand jury, and what it means to be a sovereign. Also on the show is Brother Michael Dimon, the founder of The Most Holy Family Monastery.
00:00:15.000I thought they're authorities and we're scum.
00:00:16.000Well, I tend to remind them that I'm sovereign.
00:00:19.000I never tell them I'm sovereign, but I do things that sovereigns do.
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00:00:37.000So I go to the highest courts, I go to the highest judges and the grand jury at the drop of a hat.
00:00:44.000Well, Randy, we're going to have to have you back up for two hours to take calls sometime.
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00:00:50.000I haven't had him on in about five, six years as we explore other areas, but the website is jurisimprudence.com, and in the next month or so, we'll have another seminar here in Austin or any surrounding area.
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00:04:54.000It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
00:05:05.000Okay, I was so busy during the break doing so much, I forgot to ask if we have our next great guest lined up, John.
00:05:12.000Fantastic! We are live, ladies and gentlemen, now well into this fourth hour.
00:05:18.000And we just had a real character in studio with us, a really nice fellow, Randy Kelton.
00:05:52.000Karen, Jesse Ventura's gone further on this show and other shows the last two days, saying that he thinks 9-11 was partially an insurance fraud blowing up the buildings, and that he believes our government may have done it, not just that he thinks we're being lied to.
00:06:05.000And, you know, you can love him, you can hate him, the point is it takes courage to do this, and it's really starting to break into the mainstream media.
00:06:43.000Well, it's just amazing is what it is.
00:06:45.000I wanted to get you on for most of an hour to take phone calls for folks that wanted to talk about 9-11.
00:06:50.000There's a perfect way to do it with all the things that are breaking at 1-800-259-9231.
00:06:57.000But I wanted to, with you, talk about, I mean, you said day one you questioned the official story, but I also wanted to walk through, you know, some of the main points you think people should look at, Senator.
00:07:12.000First of all, if I can, Alex, I want to tell you about something that we are proposing to do out here in the Phoenix area.
00:07:21.000We had what we call a 9-11 meet-up group last night, and there is a gentleman by the name of Blaine who is going to do what we're calling hunger for truth, and he is going to do a fast that he is beginning out in front of Senator John McCain's office.
00:08:46.000Well, you know, if you trust your eyes, you just look at the pictures, you can see that building 7 is falling down, not because it was hit by a plane, but because of explosions, because of demolitions.
00:09:00.000And, you know, how do you account for that?
00:09:04.000Well, you know, we didn't play all of this.
00:09:39.000Hey, you're one of those guys who believes that 9/11, that you don't believe two planes knocked down three buildings, right?
00:09:46.000Well, I believed it when it happened, and then after I got out of office, my son kept badgering me to pay attention to these things on the internet.
00:09:55.000And I finally did, and I started studying it, and I started opening my eyes a little.
00:10:00.000And there's a lot of very difficult questions that have not been answered.
00:10:03.000No one seems to want to provide an answer.
00:10:05.000What's the most difficult question that you see?
00:10:07.000Well, that a third building could fall into its own footprint five years.
00:10:41.000It seems to me, I don't know much about this, but when jets go right into a building, couldn't there be so much trauma to the area that things can fall?
00:10:51.000No, because if you study how they built the buildings, those buildings were made to withstand a 707, which is that old plane with the four engines on the wing.
00:11:00.000Right. Well, that's as big as what hit it.
00:11:03.000And by my studying, they said it was built to...
00:12:12.000And for that, at least, I mean, I'm no expert on this, but to have it go all the way down, a fire from jet fuel, which doesn't even burn hot enough to melt steel, to burn all the way down and, you know, Well, then we have the NASA and FBI photos from aircraft and space showing 2,600-plus degrees, close to 1,000 degrees hotter than jet fuel does at its hottest.
00:12:42.000And the firefighters reported molten steel flowing like lava down in there.
00:12:47.000And then you have BBC reporting that Building 7 fell 25 minutes before it fell, and giving the exact official story of how it then...
00:12:55.000I mean, that's like with the JFK murder.
00:12:57.000How New Zealand and Australia and Thailand and others reported before they even announced in the U.S. or caught him that it was Lee Harvey Oswald and he'd done it because they got their time zones off.
00:13:09.000I still, you know, I've got a picture of that gal reporter from the BBC and she reported I think about 5 p.m. that Building 7 had already collapsed and it didn't collapse until 520 and it's in, you can see it behind her still standing.
00:13:27.000Well, I think we've done the best presentation of that in the new edition of Terror Storm.
00:13:30.000That's why I hope people get the DVD at Infowars.com.
00:13:33.000uh Karen, I mean, I don't want to focus on how you've been attacked, because, you know, for all the attacks, you've been loved a million times more.
00:13:41.000I mean, even the polls show the majority of people know it's an inside job now, not just, you know, that they're being lied to.
00:13:48.000But what's, I mean, the ridiculous attacks you've been under, and the things that some local papers have said, I mean, it's really sophomoric, and that's why they're losing all their subscribers.
00:13:56.000That's why the mainstream corporate media is falling apart.
00:13:59.000So, in a way, they're just destroying themselves.
00:14:02.000And Alex, you're right about that, and to me, that is what is so encouraging today.
00:14:07.000I cannot tell you the amount of email that I have gotten from people that are going, hey, we think you're right, we want to help, we want to look into this.
00:14:17.000My wonderful, able assistant, you know, is beginning to put together You know, a whole directory of these folks so that we can keep in touch with them.
00:14:28.000Now, I'm not saying that we don't get some pretty nasty ones.
00:14:31.000I got one recently from some Republican, you know, that's trying to get me thrown out of the party and I'm thinking, you don't have to worry about that.
00:14:42.000The Republicans that guy likes are for open borders, total gun control, amnesty, giant taxes, tripled BATF, our name destroyed, our dollar destroyed, John McCain, a total con Oh, my gosh.
00:15:01.000We do have a pretty good wing here in Arizona that, you know, we're staunchly behind Ron Paul, and we still are.
00:15:09.000No, I know that, but I mean in the highest power positions.
00:15:13.000I mean, of course, the party would win and take over if you were constitutionalist, but they act like wonderful people like you are bad instead of the leadership.
00:16:18.000When we come back, I want to hear from Karen Johnson about whatever is on her mind, where she thinks this country's going, if you're positive about the future or negative, and then we're going to take calls at 1-800-259-9231.
00:16:28.000We've got her for another Well, 40 minutes to be exact.
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00:21:43.000Oh, Alex, I wish I could be more optimistic.
00:21:48.000The more that I learn and the more that I read, I have to admit that it's pretty frustrating, but I just Thank God that we have people like yourself out there and many other great organizations that are trying to alert the people to the peril that we are in because we are losing our country.
00:22:08.000Well, perhaps it's pretty far gone, but there are things that we can do and the more people that we wake up and that we help become alert to what's happening around them, you know, the better chance we'll have of saving our country.
00:22:25.000What do you see happening on the horizon with the dollar plunging, our name destroyed, all three presidential candidates are the worst I've ever seen?
00:23:43.000We simply require a 2% hand count, you know, at the end of the day on random sample precincts so that nobody knows ahead of time which ones are going to be counted.
00:23:56.000You know, and then we get into the computer disk that's in the Dybul's and the Sequoia's.
00:24:01.000And anyway, it was such a little thing, but wow, did we have a lot of opposition to that.
00:24:07.000It was very difficult to even get that through.
00:24:11.000It's what the Founding Fathers told us.
00:24:13.000There's a lot of money involved in government.
00:24:15.000They always take over societies of their left of their own devices.
00:24:19.000They're always destructive and abusive.
00:24:22.000There are powerful, intelligent interests that want to use the mechanism of government to enslave and control.
00:24:30.000It's not an if, it's a guarantee that that's going to happen, and it's now happened again.
00:24:35.000Senator? Yes, no, I couldn't agree more.
00:24:39.000One of the things that was so disturbing here in Arizona is that our governor, Democrat Janet Napolitano, signed on this last fall with, of all people, Republican Homeland Security Director Chertoff to put Arizona into this pilot program for the national ID.
00:24:59.000Not only will that cost the state some money if, in fact, it were implemented, and we're over a $2 billion deficit.
00:25:08.000But we did run a bill this year to opt us out of the Real ID, to say that Arizona's not going to have anything to do with it.
00:25:15.000And I was so proud of the governor from Montana, you know, who just told Mr. Chertoff where to go, where the sun doesn't shine.
00:25:23.000And hopefully, he will contact our governor and say, sign this bill, because it has passed both the House and the Senate.
00:25:30.000And we're waiting to see whether or not she's going to sign it.
00:25:33.000Well, the incredible thing is, They give all the illegals passes, they accept bank cards that the banks give them with no ID, and then they tell the public, oh, it's to stop the illegals when the government gives them a free pass.
00:25:44.000Under the NAU, the fence is basically going to be used to keep us in, and then the illegals will just be legal to go and come as they will.
00:25:54.000So it's, you know, they're selling it to some conservatives as something to, quote, stop illegal immigration.
00:26:00.000They could do that overnight by prosecuting employers.
00:26:03.000They absolutely have really deluded some of the conservatives with that particular issue, and it's been a real hard sell sometimes to turn them around.
00:26:13.000I've been appreciative of all entities.
00:26:16.000The ACLU has been extremely helpful in pushing this particular issue, as well as helping me with one other issue, and that was that we're not going to fingerprint our kids in school.
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00:33:35.000Senator Johnson, finishing up with thumb scanning to get school lunches, thumb scanning to get your library books, training you to be a prisoner.
00:34:48.000And people are going to be in such dire straits because they haven't planned, and they haven't prepared, and they're so ignorant that it's going to be pretty, pretty devastating.
00:35:01.000So, I don't even know about that, so they don't tell us about victories.
00:35:04.000You guys ban at the state level the thumb scanners to get their lunches?
00:35:09.000Yes. The bill, the actual bill that I ran says that it prohibits public schools From collecting biometric information from pupils unless the schools receive written parental permission.
00:35:45.000Just like the NRA, we've proven in their own internal documents, is a gun control group.
00:35:49.000They always keep their friends close, their enemies closer.
00:35:52.000And so they're there, and so yeah, I'm sure you've got a good local chapter, and they bear some good fruit, but nothing like Karen Johnson.
00:36:52.000Yeah, you send your children to a place where it's been advertised in the national media that psychos are supposed to go, who are always on Prozac-type drugs, Prozac class.
00:37:02.000What do I do when I'm depressed and psycho and get out of some government mind-control facility?
00:37:06.000I go up and shoot schools up, and then we send our children to a place where no one's allowed to protect them.
00:37:12.000Exactly. You know, I've got this poster in my office that a lot of people got a kick out of, because it has a picture of a gun, you know, a handgun, with the line through it.
00:37:21.000And it says, attention criminals, gun-free zone.
00:37:25.000All law-abiding faculty, staff, and students of this institution have been disarmed for your convenience.
00:37:53.000Hi, yes, I was just calling to disagree, of course.
00:37:55.000And I just wanted to tell Senator Karen Johnson that maybe the reason that she's not convinced with the original story of 9-11 is because she's influenced by intellectually bankrupt movies like Loose Change.
00:39:29.000Okay? And then, you know, I personally know Dr. Stephen Jones.
00:39:34.000I've been to three different conferences where we've been able to sit and discuss a lot of this.
00:39:39.000And then David Ray Griffin was here not too long ago in Phoenix and I had the privilege of listening to him and getting some of his information.
00:39:47.000I think these people are pretty doggone credible people.
00:40:14.000Yeah, she introduced a bill in, what, 99 when Clinton was getting ready for martial law for the state to secede if they confiscated guns or declared a new world order.
00:40:25.000I'm talking about the English Language Learning Act.
00:40:29.000Federal Judge Collins, I called him up and asked him why he issued an illegal order, and he said because the state of Arizona in the year 2000 submitted to federal jurisdiction and surrendered the state sovereignty, and it was Governor Janet Napolitano Let me just say this.
00:40:52.000They're federalizing firemen, giving them guns, having them spy on you, ruining our wonderful firemen.
00:40:57.000I mean, it's just a disease of federal scum.
00:41:00.000Senator? Well, I can tell you that it's been extremely frustrating and disturbing to me that our legislators here in Arizona, many of them, including our leadership, have acquiesced to And
00:41:31.000And that's because they want to move up the crime syndicate ladder to the international and federal level.
00:41:42.000Is it the Feds take a dollar of our money on average and give us 33 cents back on average?
00:41:47.000These idiots think that it's free money, Senator.
00:41:51.000We've been trying to get our state to hold on to all of our transportation taxes here because we're one of those donor states and we've said, hey, look, let's hold all of our transportation taxes.
00:42:05.000Let's spend the money on what we need to spend on if there's anything left.
00:42:08.000Then maybe we'll send it on to the federal government.
00:42:10.000If not, we need to do what we need to do here with it.
00:42:15.000Yes, why give them money to hire more shaved head guys with devil tats all over them to be BATF officers while they drive around in bright yellow Corvettes and live in million-dollar houses dealing narcotics?
00:43:16.000And what's frustrating is 99 out of 100 people I talk to, you try to reason with them about 9-11, the New World Order, the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds.
00:43:30.000People look at me like I belong in a mental institution, and they'll say that's all urban folklore.
00:43:36.000Oh, yeah, they say Bilderberg doesn't exist, CFR doesn't exist.
00:43:41.000But that's what, listen, Bilderberg's having its meeting in the U.S. I heard that on your show yesterday.
00:43:47.000They used to normally have it in Europe, and they're doing it because we have a more blacked-out media, and we have police that'll go after citizens.
00:44:53.000I've got people telling me the dollar hasn't been devalued, and I'm a liar, and then they go on the message boards and say I'm Al-Qaeda, trying to lie to them.
00:45:01.000The government's all, I'm not kidding, they say that I'm working for Al-Qaeda.
00:45:04.000The White House has said the 9-11 truth works for Ahmadinejad, Senator.
00:45:09.000Oh, Alex, you know what I do in answer to this gentleman?
00:45:13.000When I start talking to people, if they I think I'm out, whacked out, and kooky.
00:45:34.000And going back to the issue of states' rights here, we've got another issue.
00:45:40.000Oh my gosh, Alex, this is one that has just been huge here in Arizona.
00:45:45.000We have the federal government coming in to our federal parks here, if you would, and forests, like the Tonto National Forest, the Fitgraves National Forest that we have up north, and we have the Saguaro National Monument, other areas.
00:50:58.000Be sure and listen to the retransmission on the web.
00:51:01.000It starts in just a few minutes at infowars.com.
00:51:07.000I'm begging you listeners to go to Infowars.com where the top three stories about Jesse Ventura saying they blew up the towers for an insurance scam.
00:51:20.000This is big news and this will not punch out in the Associated Press and then hundreds of papers and they get everybody talking around the water coolers.
00:51:51.000Senator Johnson, what's your take on, you know, using the celebrity-obsessed culture, plus he's a former governor, now that he's really gone public on this show yesterday, on Stern today, to really get this out?
00:52:06.000You know, you kind of ask why, you know, why these things happened, and I guess that's one of the big questions and why we want to see an investigation, because, you know, we need to know who benefited.
00:52:31.000Oh my gosh, a handful of corporations like Blackwater and Halliburton and Brown and Root and on and on.
00:52:38.000And then you've got, we've got the Patriot Act, we've got Homeland Security, we've got now the Real ID, we lost our habeas corpus, you know, we've got illegal wiretapping.
00:52:50.000These are all things that I don't think could have been pushed on the American people without 9-11.
00:52:56.000I agree, and now the crooks know that we're on to them, so they already have their police state set up in case we try to remove them.
00:53:02.000They've got their electronic voting machines going in.
00:53:04.000A perfect storm of evil, but the people are waking up like never before, and the globalists themselves say they're scared.
00:53:11.000So now is the time for courage to speak up, not to cower.
00:53:14.000Some people are on the air saying, be quiet, don't tell anyone you're against the new world order, they'll get you.
00:53:22.000Well, you're absolutely right and I, oh, Alex, I appreciate you so much and what you are doing and have been doing for a long time now and for others that are willing to stand up and to speak out.
00:53:37.000Well, you were awake a long time before I was, but you said that one of the reasons you passed that law against the whole New World Order deal in your state, or tried to, about getting the UN out, was because you saw some of my films, and you know, then you help wake up other people, I wake up people, you woke up folks that probably woke me up.
00:53:52.000I mean, it's all symbiotic, and we're together on this, so I don't want any of the listeners to think that their talking to their neighbors and friends doesn't have an effect.
00:54:03.000Absolutely. We are setting up little groups and it's just like here in Arizona, you know, we have these meet-up groups.
00:54:10.000And, you know, and if people want to help with this 9-11 issue, they can donate money to this cause if they can't get out and participate more, you know, on a personal level.
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