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00:01:24.000A mental patient With a firecracker with some thumbtacks on it, blows it up in his face, and now they're ninnying, running around, freaking out.
00:01:34.000And this happened right after they were before the European Human Rights Court about secret arrest without habeas corpus.
00:01:41.000And now your El Presidente is taking time out, your Prime Minister, from saying, we need martial law and we need a new world order, he's taking time out to fearmonger Paul Watson.
00:01:57.000Well, yeah, it's, from what I can see, it's basically Dumb and Dumber Part 2.
00:02:02.000You remember the, uh, terror attack on the Glasgow Airport a year ago?
00:02:08.000It was actually two retards setting fire to a jeep.
00:02:12.000But it was in the news for about three weeks after.
00:02:15.000And, uh, presented as another reason why we should, you know, be putting a terror database for filming a bunch of flowers at a tube station.
00:02:24.000But, um, From what the eyewitnesses said about this one, which happened yesterday morning in Exeter, which is quite a small university town near the south coast of England.
00:02:42.000The eyewitnesses, and it was in a packed restaurant, but the actual bomb, if you want to call it that, was set off in a locked toilet.
00:02:51.000And the eyewitnesses described it as Didn't sound like a bomb, it sounded more like a lightbulb exploding.
00:02:58.000So again, it's some pathetic individual that's got a history of mental illness that's been influenced by some propaganda and being radicalized by it.
00:03:09.000And that's what they do, they now advertise, oh see there's deadly Al-Qaeda, it's white Al-Qaeda, remember they said armies of white Al-Qaeda, thousands trained with missiles, totally deadly force.
00:03:21.000And then they find them, you know, black, mentally ill street kids, mentally retarded.
00:03:25.000They give them a hundred grand to videotape an FBI building, bust them.
00:03:29.000The news says an army of crack assassins, so deadly trained, they were unstoppable.
00:03:33.000Then it turned out some of them can't even talk.
00:03:36.000And then, I mean, it's always the same M.O.
00:03:41.000Well, in Britain, they're trying to sell it on this so-called Islamo-fascism.
00:03:45.000They actually, they had a bust in Burnley, which is a northern town not too far away from where I live.
00:03:52.000And it was a Neo-Nazi, and he basically had a huge cache of rocket launchers and grenades, and it was in the local newspaper once, and it didn't even make, you know, BBC, whereas this is all over BBC at the moment, so they pick which ones they're going to propagandise about very carefully.
00:04:11.000This is not getting as much traction as Dumb and Dumber did setting fire to a jeep at Glasgow Airport, but it's certainly It's more in the news today than it was yesterday.
00:04:21.000Yeah, you would have thought giant alien spacecraft landed at the airport with tanks rolling by and Blair freaking out and panicking and the media saying, will Britannia hold fast against the burning jeep?
00:04:40.000Well, I mean, then you look at the real bombings, the London bombings, The bombers were completely coddled by MI5 and they didn't display the behavior of suicide bombers, which is what they were.
00:05:12.000Well, I mean, then you look at the real bombings, the London bombings, which is... The bombers were completely coddled by MI5 and they didn't display the behavior of suicide bombers, which is what they were, so... He runs PrisonPlanet.com.
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00:08:46.000He is confident that he is going to beat it.
00:08:48.000We should all pray for Ray McGovern because he's been a great patriot to this country and one of the top senior CIA analysts to several presidents, Gabe George Bush Sr., and he his daily briefing and under seven presidents for over 27 years presenting the morning intelligence briefings at the White House and he's giving us an intelligence briefing despite the fact that he's doing chemotherapy right now and we really do appreciate him coming on.
00:09:17.000If I tried to go through the amazing career he's had it would take too long so we'll just go right to him but if you go to Wikipedia they've got a pretty good write up on him.
00:09:26.000It's pretty Well actually I've been kind of lucky.
00:09:33.000And so we are honored to have him on with us.
00:09:55.000I've reflected very much on how privileged I am to have the access to medical care that 50 million of my fellow Americans lack, so it's been a kind of wake-up call in many respects for me, Alex.
00:10:10.000Well, for your age, I remember meeting you in person.
00:10:12.000You look 20 years younger than you are.
00:11:20.000and from the sea, the missiles on those ships and so forth.
00:11:24.000And we would, as I say, have very little warning.
00:11:28.000Now, how it will all start is problematic.
00:11:31.000It looked very much up until two weeks ago that they had decided, well, since the intelligence says that the Iranians have stopped working on the nuclear weapons-related part of their nuclear program, it's going to be kind of difficult to hit out at a program that it's going to be kind of difficult to hit out at a program that So they switched all the propaganda over to the fact that, quote, or the allegation that, quote,
00:11:58.000Iranian-supported groups with Iranian weapons, Iranian training, and Iranian funding are killing hundreds of our troops in southern Iraq.
00:12:09.000Now, the rub came when Petraeus and Admiral Mullen, who should know better, promised the Western press on the 25th of April That Petraeus has the goods on these guys, and we're going to have a big display of these weapons, and we're going to destroy them in front of your eyes!
00:12:26.000And they've done this, like, four or five times last few years, always claiming they've proven Iran did it, and then they always retract very quietly, and the media never makes a big deal about their deception.
00:12:37.000You know, Alex, that's the big story here.
00:12:39.000You know, here they tell the media on April 25th that this is coming, and two weeks later, they kind of go, oh, by the way, you know, people have canceled that briefing.
00:12:49.000And it's become very clear that all these weapons that they captured around Karbala, they couldn't trace one of them to Iranian origin.
00:12:57.000The best they could do is they found five hand grenades up with the Al-Qaeda types up there in the northern part of Iraq, five hand grenades that can clearly be demonstrated to have been made in Iran.
00:14:03.000And this whole thing about Iran now will reverse, in my view, toward the big lie, which is that Ahmadinejad has threatened to push Israel into the sea, has threatened to destroy Israel.
00:14:17.000How many times has your president said that?
00:14:23.000It was a terrible translation of what he did say, and we can go into that later.
00:14:28.000But the big lie is that Israel is about to be destroyed by the Iranians.
00:14:33.000And even though no one, not even the Israelis, say that Iran has a nuclear weapon or is likely to get one in the next year or two, Bush, you know, he's got, what, seven, eight more months.
00:14:45.000And the Israeli ambassador here in Washington, sometimes they sort of slip and say the truth.
00:15:08.000It's very clear from all those interviews he gave to that Esquire reporter.
00:15:14.000And that article that came out earlier this year, that he wasn't about to take part in yet another illegal, under international as well as domestic law, illegal war of aggression.
00:15:28.000Because that's exactly the way Nuremberg, the Nuremberg Tribunal after World War II, defined a preemptive or preventive war.
00:15:37.000There's nothing in the UN Treaty, there's nothing in the US Congress legislation that That blesses or proves an offense, an invasion, or an attack on a country that does not pose an imminent threat.
00:15:54.000And there is no one, there is no one who knows anything about Iran who can suggest with a straight face that Iran poses an imminent threat to the United States of America.
00:16:06.000Do you ever feel like you're waking up in the middle of a twilight zone, that the United States would be the bad guys, and that we would be attacking all these innocent countries and lying, and that we'd have a war criminal president?
00:16:19.000Well, Alex, it took me a while and my colleagues and veteran intelligence professionals for sanity.
00:16:30.000To kind of be okay with the notion that, hey, we really needed to turn our analytic skills, develop at government expense, at taxpayer expense, on our own leaders.
00:16:42.000And yes, it is true that they lie a lot.
00:16:54.000Scott Ritter and others were also sounding the same, the same note.
00:16:59.000But it happened, and still it was hard for us to believe that our leaders and our former colleagues in the intelligence services would cooperate with this.
00:17:11.000But isn't that what's so dangerous, is they did cooperate, now they're not cooperating as much.
00:17:17.000I'm told the State Department, you know, they're jokingly putting Hitler mustaches on the pictures of somebody of the Bush and the Vice President.
00:17:27.000I mean, we're dealing with people that have shown that they're willing to, quote, go for it.
00:17:32.000And, you know, Gulf of Tonkin events, staged events, provocateur events.
00:17:37.000Are you worried about them trying to stage something?
00:17:40.000Because I don't see them being able, even in this Alice in Wonderland system, you know, this Tea Party of insanity, to be able to attack Iran without some type of staged provocation.
00:17:51.000And I'm sure you know, we even talked to him, and he admitted and clarified, Gary Hart told us, that yes, he is afraid the government will stage, blow up a ship, I am, Alex, and I think you're right.
00:18:06.000Some kind of provocation would be necessary.
00:18:08.000Now, Fallon, when he was commander of CENTCOM, Very, very strict regulations about what they call encounter engagements.
00:18:20.000You know, how do you deal with little outboard motorboats that come speeding up to your naval vessel?
00:18:26.000Do you blow them out of the water or do you try to see if they have any dangerous missiles or anything on them?
00:18:37.000I don't know what it is now, but there is a report that I have seen that the White House has insisted, the next time that happens, that the commander in the Persian Gulf contacted the White House directly, not the Defense Department, to pursue instructions.
00:18:55.000With all those ships out there, it could be a legitimate or it could be a manufactured provocation.
00:19:02.000The other part of it is that the President has rhetorically put himself out on the same kind of limb that he was before Iraq.
00:19:10.000And the people who have put him out there are the same kinds of folks, Richard Perle, Wolfowitz, and the rest of them, that said then and are saying now, look, Mr. President, you said That you would not ever permit Iran to have a nuclear weapon, and it looks like they may get one, or are you just going to go out of office and suffer the opprobrium of history that would say, oh, big talk, but George Bush took no action?
00:19:37.000And so, what he has done is gotten this country out of the limb, as if we are automatically pledged to defend Israel if it gets attacked by Iran or anybody else.
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00:24:39.000Because as you said earlier, Israel and others are leaking that they plan to, that's going to happen.
00:24:45.000Or is that another piece of propaganda?
00:24:47.000But then we saw the preparations, and then B, if it happens, what are we likely to see happen worldwide with the economy and then militarily, Ray McGovern?
00:25:04.000The supreme hurdle, of course, is the captive press, the corporate dominated press that will not tell Americans the real story.
00:25:13.000But there have to be ways, there have to be imaginative ways, ways that you use and other commentators to get the word out that really there is no threat from Iran, and that this is all a sort of manufactured kind of threat of the same kind we saw prior to the attack on Iraq.
00:25:32.000I, as you know, have made a kind of a college try to get Admiral Fallon to realize that it's not enough just to resign.
00:25:43.000I mean, I'm sure that he's lost many sleepless nights thinking about what would happen if we attacked Iran from the air.
00:25:51.000No, these guys in the blue suits, you know, they say, well, hey, we can just, we can do it surgically and everything will be fine.
00:25:58.000Well, they never have to deal with the aftermath.
00:26:00.000You know what the aftermath could involve?
00:26:02.000It could involve cutting the supply lines between Kuwait and Baghdad that are vital to supplying our troops in Iraq, of which there are about 140,000 right now.
00:26:15.000Now, if Iran can do that, and it can do that very readily, we would have the prospect, Alex, of having not, you know, 52 hostages in some embassy this time, but 52,000 U.S.
00:26:27.000servicemen cut off from their supply lines, taken in effect as hostages by the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.
00:26:50.000When Secretary of the Army, who was an Enron crook, I'm not defending him, White said, 500,000 troops, they said you're fired.
00:26:58.000This does have, in my mind, images of Hitler in the bunker, commanding armies that didn't exist.
00:27:05.000Well, you know, as many have pointed out, especially Andrew Bukiewicz, the Boston University professor who is the best on this subject, you know, there aren't any troops.
00:27:16.000You know, it was the same in Vietnam, Alex.
00:27:19.000The fellas in the blue suits, you know, they want a piece of the action.
00:27:22.000So these generals from the Air Force come to Cheney and Bush and say, you know, hey, we have these smart bombs, we have these stealth bombers.
00:27:58.000You don't see the damage that that does to us, and the insurgence that that cultivates or grows automatically.
00:28:04.000So, what I'm afraid of is that the Cheney and Bush, before they leave, They really have not been held accountable for anything.
00:28:12.000And since Bush, at least, is an incredibly risk-taking person, and since he seems to have made a promise... Yeah, the word, sir, unless you disagree, is extremely reckless.
00:28:26.000And if he feels, as he seems to, that he's made this promise to Israel that he would deliver Israel from this evil... You know, the vocabulary itself, Alex, give me a pause.
00:28:38.000I think, you know, not until this regime has, as the American administration talked about, good and evil in the apocalyptic, you know, in the kind of sense that these people have been using.
00:28:52.000Well, we know they're playing off of their minions in a really sadistic, mean way.
00:28:58.000Some people who, you know, I guess want the end of the world, but this is, I guess they really are making it apocalyptic then.
00:29:05.000Well, it will be, whether they realize that or not.
00:29:08.000And that's the rub, because Fallon was smart enough to realize what this could mean.
00:29:16.000I mean, the other things they could do is actually attack Israel with missiles.
00:29:21.000They can hit the oil wellheads in the Gulf and put a lot of them.
00:29:26.000And we'll be paying not $4 a gallon, we'll be paying $10 a gallon automatically.
00:29:31.000They can do all these things, and I'm just wondering if anyone in the very tight circle that is advising Bush and Cheney, whether they have the guts to tell Bush that.
00:29:42.000I mean, do you remember just two months ago when the press said, Mr. President, what do you think about the possibility of $4 a gallon oil?
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00:32:46.000This confederation of evangelicals, Catholics, and Protestant denominations will form one huge political voting bloc.
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00:32:57.000Our forefathers wrote the Bill of Rights to guarantee all Americans this freedom, liberty of conscience.
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00:33:06.000It must be our love of God and of country that prompts or constrains us.
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00:33:43.000Ray McGovern, top CIA analyst and multiple presidents, combat infantry commander of Vietnam, outspoken individual who's been criticizing.
00:34:12.000We have this clip we can play of him confronting Rumsfeld about his lies, and there's all this media there, and none of them will do it, and they still really won't.
00:34:23.000And then about a month ago, Ray McGovern, you may have seen it, there was a clip with the good looking front lady they use for the presidential spokesperson, the press secretary, and they come up to her and they say, is it true the dollar being devalued is making oil prices go up?
00:35:00.000I mean that shows Just to me, that there's not a lot of connection between the Press Secretary and the President or the Vice President, and it shows kind of like a crying out for help.
00:35:13.000I mean, the way she looked and the way she was saying it, and Ari Fleischer before saying, yeah, they put out fake terror alerts for political purposes and then they removed him the next day.
00:35:24.000I mean, I'm seeing just a lot of really bad signs, because to have an evil government's one thing, that's bad.
00:35:30.000But to have one that's out of control and delusional, and I'm seeing, just as a layman, but I've studied quite a bit, you know, history, I'm getting a lot of signals that things are out of control.
00:35:48.000And the situation is very much similar to that before of the attack on Iraq.
00:35:54.000On the day that Colin Powell spoke at the UN, we veteran intelligence professionals for sanity issued our first corporate memorandum.
00:36:03.000We finished up by saying, Mr. President, we strongly advise that you broaden the circle of your advisors beyond those already bent on a war for which we see no compelling reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be Catastrophic.
00:36:20.000Now, we could see at that point in time that the key was this little tight circle of advisors, of whom only Colin Powell knew which end was up, really, and we know what he was worth in the final analysis.
00:36:34.000And now, where we have an even tighter circle, where we know the President doesn't read the newspapers, Dana Perino says, well, you know, I can't answer that because I'll be fired.
00:36:44.000And then when the President himself, as I started to mention before, two months ago when he gets up before a press conference, somebody said, well, what do you think about the prospect of maybe $4 a gallon?
00:37:09.000So the guy is detached from reality, he's uninformed, and we know, we know, that Cheney is able to keep the information flow to him and away from him.
00:37:19.000So, what he's being told with respect to weapons from Iran and southern Iraq, for example, Twelve days after it was clear that those recent charges by Petraeus and others were bogus, the President is still telling the world openly that we're catching them, we're catching those guys, giving those weapons to Iranian insurgents, and when we get them, we're going to get them.
00:37:45.000Well that brings me to my next question, and I know you follow the news, I'm glad you did pick up on that White House Press Secretary story, because that was just amazing to me, and there's so many other indicators that are the same, or similar, and that was a month ago, whenever McCain was in Baghdad, and then surrounding capitals of other countries, and he kept saying, Iran is funding Al-Qaeda, Iran is Al-Qaeda, I mean, everybody knows they're Shiites.
00:38:12.000I mean, that's the opposite warring faction, you know, the two main branches of Islam.
00:38:17.000And then Sy Hersh four years ago, and then the White House last year admitted that they're funding three different Wahhabist groups attacking.
00:38:24.000One of them headed up with a number three in Al-Qaeda.
00:38:27.000And so here's our government, or the executive, funding Al-Qaeda to attack and blow up mosques and shoot people, and Iran's suing us over it.
00:38:36.000And then, meanwhile, but then McCain comes back and in a Senate Armed Services Committee says to Petraeus, I mean, Petraeus, excuse me, I just love the nickname Petraeus, and says, isn't it true that Iran funds Al-Qaeda?
00:38:52.000I mean, this is, this is, the propaganda is insane!
00:38:56.000Yeah, the problem is that normal Americans, you know, they kick their shoes off in the evening and tune into Fox News and they think they're getting the straight story.
00:39:07.000We have to find imaginative ways to grab them by the collar, these phonies, and say, look, look, Petraeus told us last October that there is absolutely no doubt that Iranians are funding, supporting, giving weapons to, and training these insurgents in southern Iraq.
00:39:29.000And this last fiasco, which the mainstream press just kind of, you know, ignored for two weeks, Here's the mainstream press told, hey, we're going to have a big press conference.
00:39:40.000We're going to show you those Iranian weapons.
00:39:42.000Two weeks later, well, it's been cancelled.
00:39:57.000They're having a 125 world leaders meet to set a lot of policy at the Bilderberg group coming up in Chantilly outside DC through the 5th through the 8th I'll be going and just six, seven years ago the media said it didn't exist.
00:40:11.000Now they admit that a lot of policy gets set there and the Logan Act gets violated and things like that happen.
00:40:17.000But we have from inside Bilderberg, they don't normally meet in the US but every five years they're meeting here in North America again Because they're saying we have the most controlled press and that the police will ban protest.
00:40:31.000And so now elites are meeting here because we have less freedoms than Europe.
00:40:36.000I mean, that's something else that's just amazing to me that this type of stuff is going on.
00:40:43.000You know, Alex, the parallel with Europe is very unsettling.
00:40:50.000If you look at the parallel between the burning of the Reichstag, the German Parliament in 1933, and what happened at 9-11, you can see that the Germans reacted to that in a very, very passive way.
00:41:06.000They said, well, you know, if terrorists, and that was the word used.
00:41:11.000These particular terrorists were accused of being communists, but it was, if terrorists burn the Reichstag down, then we accept as a matter of course that our telephone calls will be intercepted, that our desks will be broken into, that a mail will be read.
00:41:28.000It's just, you know, all the duty, all the responsibilities the government had toward us and the Constitution, well, they can be put in abeyance.
00:41:53.000They'll say, well, I don't mind, because I'm not talking to Osama bin Laden.
00:41:59.000They don't understand that they've used the Patriot Act hundreds of thousands of times in non-terror related.
00:42:04.000They don't understand that the greatest threat isn't some guys in a cave, even if the 9-11 attacks were really orchestrated by them.
00:42:11.000Hypothetically, the greater threat is giving up our whole way of life for something that you have a better chance of dying from a peanut allergy or being struck by lightning or drowning.
00:42:43.000Now, you know, people need to know that the very reason that the FISA law, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, was put into effect in 1978, was to prevent the kind of thing that J. Edgar Hoover was doing as a matter of course, not only to citizens like us, but to senators, to presidents, okay?
00:43:05.000Now, you neighbor may not care if your phone is being tapped, but do you care if Nancy Pelosi's phone is being tapped?
00:43:13.000Do you care if other Democratic leaders are candidates, if their funds are being taxed?
00:43:20.000It's come out that Nixon, obviously, and Clinton, and now Bush Sr., and all of them spy on each other.
00:43:26.000But to give a monolithic homeland security, boy how fascist is that, the power to spy, it just came out that MI6 and MI5 Tony Blair has had them spying on the House of Commons and Lords for political power, and they've been using it to burn their enemies.
00:43:47.000We know they're going to do that, and that gives the executive incredible power to set up a dictatorship.
00:43:54.000Well, that's exactly why they put that law in, and that's exactly why Bush and Cheney decided to circumvent that law.
00:44:03.000Take this General Michael Hayden, okay?
00:44:06.000He's head of the National Security Agency, and the President, who actually was Cheney, goes to him and says, now we know that the first commandment over there at NSA is, thou shalt not eavesdrop on Americans, but we got this terrorist threat now, and we're going to do precisely that.
00:44:43.000They always escalate, they always push the envelope until there's nothing holding back anything now.
00:44:50.000That's not hyperbole that he should be court-martialed arrested.
00:44:53.000They're having to go back and pass laws, which themselves are unconstitutional, retroactively, so all these companies and people don't go to jail.
00:45:03.000Yeah, well, that of course is a great danger.
00:45:05.000I'm delighted that for once, for the one and only time recently, the Democrats have been able to prevent that from happening so far.
00:45:14.000But you know, that's just one of these retroactive immunity things.
00:45:17.000The thing that bothers me the most is the President forcing Congress, just before the Congress changed hands, to give him and all his minions retroactive immunity for torture.
00:45:30.000And that came in the so-called Military Commissions Act, signed in October of 1996, just before Congress changed.
00:45:38.000And what it did was say, well, whatever the President or others have done with respect to torture, well, they shall be held harmless, just like they're trying to hold harmless the telecommunications giant.
00:45:50.000And then once that precedent set, you have the furor precept of what Nixon said.
00:45:55.000He said it's not illegal when the President does it.
00:45:59.000Well, it used to be, and unless we get some spine into congressmen, unless we get a wholesale change, and, you know, it's dubious, but at least we'll get some change coming early next year.
00:46:10.000You know, there's not much hope for us.
00:46:12.000That's why my focus is right now on preventing a new war, because the new war, you know, one of their calculations could well be, Alex, that the new war could help John McCain become president.
00:46:27.000He flies off the handle for no reason.
00:46:30.000They say it's been reported multiple times daily.
00:46:34.000It's one thing to have a hot head if you're a talk show host, but I don't think you should be president.
00:46:39.000Now, I want to run through a couple of quick questions here with you.
00:46:43.000What do other, not just people in your Veterans Intelligence Group for sanity, but when you talk to other colleagues and other people you worked with in the NSA, CIA, Defense Intelligence, you know, being in and around all those people, I mean, are they...
00:46:58.000I'm getting a sense from just reading and talking to people and other guests that the government finally is freaked out and says, man, it's one thing to be corrupt and one thing to be out of control in a big government, but it's another thing to really be the bad guys, and that they now see that the whole system may be wrecked by these people.
00:47:18.000The question is how much power they could wield.
00:47:22.000And without the press to replay their stories, that power is minimal.
00:47:27.000Now, I take some great encouragement from the fact that there are some people with integrity still working in the analytics section of the CIA.
00:47:35.000I'm not talking about the torturers now, I'm talking about the people who are trying to speak truth to power.
00:47:40.000For these guys to come up and have, blessed by their superiors, a national intelligence estimate that goes 180 degrees betwixt what Bush and Cheney were saying about Iran's intentions to build a nuclear weapon, as they did in December of last year.
00:47:56.000That was true rebellion against the tyranny.
00:47:58.000I mean, that is a big split in the government to have the official estimates say, no, there's no WMDs, no, there's no war, no, we don't need a war.
00:48:05.000Yeah, so there's that underlying basis of integrity, but even that has been eroded.
00:48:16.000Their leaders, McConnell, the head of national intelligence, and this despicable guy, Hayden, I mean, he makes a big speech out in Oklahoma and he says, well now it's my personal opinion, it's my personal opinion, that Iran is hell-bent on getting a nuclear weapon.
00:48:35.000If the whole intelligence community, 16 agencies, says Iran stopped trying to do a nuclear weapons related part of this program in 2003, who cares about Hayden's personal opinion?
00:48:53.000I don't usually get into a book's cover, but I've watched a lot of hearings with Hayden and seen a lot of him and seen him compared to the same type of person.
00:49:16.000Well, you know, what we have there is a Martinet.
00:49:18.000The Fourth Amendment means we can do whatever we say is reasonable.
00:49:22.000I mean, going against all of the precedent, all of common law, all of our tradition, to just tell huge rooms of reporters and lawyers, no, we're allowed to spy on whoever we want without a warrant.
00:49:33.000I mean, he is, I pray I see him go to prison.
00:49:37.000Well, you know, what we have there is a Martinet.
00:49:55.000And, you know, there are lots of things that could be adjusted.
00:49:59.000Let me just tell you one little true story here.
00:50:01.000After I questioned Rumsfeld down there in Atlanta, I was invited up to the Lou Dobbs Show in New York, okay, so I'm waiting to go on, and it was the period in which Hayden had been nominated to be head of the CIA.
00:50:15.000Now, I had read something indicating that Bobby Inman, the great Bobby Ray Inman, who I've enjoyed so much respect as head of NSA at one point, and who was there when the FISA law was constructed and had a big hand in constructing it, that at the New York Public Library two nights before he had said, Hayden clearly did something illegal here, he knows better than anyone that the FISA law prohibited what he was doing.
00:50:45.000He arrives at Lou Dobbs' show, goes on before me, cuts in ahead of me, puts on a tie.
00:50:51.000Dobbs says, what do you think of Hayden?
00:50:53.000And so I think he's supremely qualified for the job.
00:50:56.000I was on next, and had I had the time, I would have... Ray McGovern, stay there.
00:51:01.000We're on TV on one end of this, so we're going to keep talking during the break.
00:51:06.000We'll be back for everybody else in three minutes.
00:51:07.000Got to go to the Info Wars streams to hear this.
00:51:11.000Okay, Ray, Mr. McGovern, we've got five minutes on the other end, but I want to talk behind the scenes right now for folks that are watching on PrisonPlanet.tv.
00:51:21.000Okay, well, what happens is, you know, he storms in there, somebody gives him a tie, he goes on before me, and he comes out five minutes later, and I'm watching it on the screen, and Lou Dobbs says, what do you think of General Mike Hayden to be the next CIA Director?
00:51:37.000Now, two days Not even two days after he said in public at the New York Public Library that Hayden knew what he was doing.
00:51:54.000Now, if you can't trust Bobby Ray Inman, who's sort of the paragon of trustfulness among the retired general or admiral corps, you can't trust anybody.
00:52:07.000It's a misguided notion of professional courtesy.
00:52:10.000You know, these generals, these admirals, they've been so kind of molded into this sort of Martinet kind of atmosphere, That they're all in it together and will defend each other even though no one knew better than Bobby Ray Inman, the co-author of the FISA law that Hayden had deliberately violated and should have been, as one of the other previous heads of the NSA said, he should have been court-martialed rather than nominated to be head of the CIA.
00:52:37.000So that was a big deal to have Fox Fallon tell one of the biggest magazines in the country, Esquire, that they were planning to go to war and he thought it was a bad idea.
00:52:46.000And then they basically told him to resign, as they do.
00:52:50.000And to have the CIA finally come out and do something right for a change and say, no, there's no threat, that's got to really upset the neocons.
00:52:59.000But it seems like it's only emboldened them because they know that if they can go ahead and stage something before they leave, As you said, that might boost their approval rating for a while, or maybe even, like you said, get the warmonger McCain into power.
00:53:16.000Well, that's what they're calculating, and they only have a few months left to do it.
00:53:21.000Now, the question is, as I started to say before, the initiative really lies with the Israelis at this point.
00:53:59.000Guys, call the next guest and move them back.
00:54:02.000Okay, just let them know it's five minutes later.
00:54:05.000Okay, we're going live on the main network right now.
00:54:06.000I was talking behind the scenes for PrisonPlanet.TV viewers with Ray McGovern, and he dropped a bombshell on me.
00:54:22.000He said, and our viewers, he said that It's really up to Israel right now on whether there's going to be an attack on Iran or not, both in the lobby and with things militarily that Israel does.
00:54:35.000They could even go back into Lebanon and claim that's a threat to them.
00:54:53.000I remember in the Washington Post, the week before 9-11, there was a Pentagon analysis saying we're worried Israel could stage a false flag to get us into a war in the Middle East.
00:55:08.000You know, it seems terribly cynical to suggest that what the President calls, quote, our ally, end quote, Israel, would do something like that.
00:55:19.000First off, your listeners should realize that in a juridical sense, there is no defense treaty with Israel.
00:55:25.000They are not our ally in any real sense of the term.
00:55:29.000You know, morally and so forth, they have begun, but that's not an obligation on our part to defend them.
00:55:35.000But that's sort of an academic point, as the President has promised to do precisely that.
00:55:39.000Plus, they've got one of the biggest militaries in the world and 400 nukes.
00:55:43.000Yeah, you know, one boggles the so-called threat from one nuke from Iran, when they have 400.
00:55:54.000I think people really need to remember is that on the June 8, 1967, in the middle of that first war with the Arabs, the Israeli planes and torpedo boats did their damnedest to sink the USS Liberty, knowing full well that it was a U.S.
00:56:29.000And by the way, they'd always denied that, and now as you said last year, NSA released the intercepts, what, we'd already had pilots come public and say they refused three times and were ordered, you attack and sink that American ship.
00:57:22.000The younger John McCain, his father having been responsible for a bogus investigation of the incident itself.
00:57:30.000Now, I'm not saying the sins of the father should be visited on the son.
00:57:33.000I am saying that John McCain, Jr., in a crass appeal to the lobby, I endorse the conclusions of this book, which are clearly bogus, and which the NSA intercepts now released show are completely bogus.
00:57:49.000The veterans, such as the ones that survived the USS Liberty, deserve better, and their story needs to be told.
00:57:57.000Because it was on June 8, 1967, and subsequent years, that the Israeli government was persuaded, for good reason, That they could literally get away with murder, and our Congress, and our Executive, and even our Navy would not say anything about it.
00:58:18.000That is a very, very dangerous position to be in, and beware of what might happen in the Gulf.
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01:00:51.000I mean, they're endangering the whole world.
01:00:52.000The elite seems to be totally power-mad.
01:00:56.000They want to get rid of Iran, when Iran has tried to be friends with them, going back for 50 years, when they could certainly work things out.
01:01:04.000Every time there's moderate moolahs in control, they seem to freak out even more.
01:01:14.000Well, you know, Alex, I think part of their problem is us.
01:01:20.000You know, I'm talking about Elliott Abrams, arch neoconservative, convicted convict for lying to Congress during the Iran-Contra, and yet running our foreign policy out of the White House, our foreign policy toward that part of the world.
01:01:34.000What we're talking about here is a kind of delusional, extremist fringe.
01:01:40.000Cheney, Abrams are running this thing.
01:01:43.000Now, they have counterparts in Israel.
01:01:45.000Again, extremist, kind of lunatic fringe.
01:01:49.000Not the majority, not only of the Israelis, but the Israeli government.
01:01:53.000And yet, you know, they're being, sort of, egging each other on, thinking, well, we only have seven, eight months left of George W. Bush, we've got to exploit his... And we could be kings, we could start World War III and then be the kings, and then remake the world, like after World War II, and we can fix it all.
01:02:10.000I was just about to say, it seems like they egg each other on, like a group of hunting dogs that get each other really excited.
01:02:38.000Now Hezbollah is more powerful in Lebanon than ever before, and instead of having a multi-confessional government on their border, they're going to have a very hostile government.
01:02:48.000Similarly, now, they're talking with Syria.
01:03:06.000Well, I think that unless somebody puts a spoke in the juggernaut toward war, that we will be bombing and missile attacking from our naval ships, Iran, within the next two months.
01:03:20.000So you think that's the window, the next two to three months?
01:03:33.000But the problem is, you know, when you have people like Conyers or Pelosi or other people saying, oh, okay, well, if you tax Iran, then we might think about impeaching them.
01:03:47.000I mean, isn't this failing forward, where they know if they get us in a big enough tar baby, Americans will go, man, it doesn't matter if gas is $10 a gallon, we gotta do this for America.
01:03:58.000We're getting our ass kicked by the Iranians, because the Iranians are going to have the high ground if they counter-strike.
01:04:04.000Great, and so we have kind of the one candidate who wants to bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.
01:04:09.000You know, they may actually think that this could help that candidate.
01:04:14.000And then they've got the obliterate candidate.
01:04:18.000Well, you know, yeah, it's going to be interesting these next couple of... I think everyone needs to do something more than they have before, Alex.
01:04:27.000Go not only talk to, but occupy your congressmen and your congresswomen's or your senators' offices.
01:04:33.000Make sure they realize You know, for Pelosi and Conyers to say, well, now we'll impeach, that indicates they have no idea, whatever, of what a war with Iran would... We haven't even talked about the terrorist threat.
01:04:45.000I mean, the terrorist threat from Iran, you know, makes al-Qaeda look like Mount Sinai in terms of the damage they can do worldwide.
01:04:53.000Well, well, well, Ray, I mean, I don't want to take up more of your time.
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01:08:31.000They've always been allowed in the parades.
01:08:33.000Brett McGovern, I want to get into Iran, but just briefly, I go out to a protest now, or I go out to even videotape on a street corner, and cops all over the country come over and say, turn it off, get out of here.
01:09:23.000If and when we strike Iran from the air, they can do, in addition to the things I've already mentioned, the kind of worldwide terrorism that would, as I started to say, make Al-Qaeda look like, you know, the Mount St.
01:09:40.000I mean, the Iranians have a worldwide capability to do real, real terrorism.
01:09:45.000And you can fully expect that if this happens.
01:09:48.000Now, what are we likely to see in the next few weeks?
01:09:52.000I think that it's going to be real hard for the Americans to come up, the American military, to come up with enough Iranian weapons to insert into southern Iraq and say, well, we found them.
01:10:42.000He's saying that the regime occupying Jerusalem and the occupied territories for the last 40 years, more years than the Soviets have occupied Eastern Europe, should vanish from the pages of time.
01:11:01.000So it's a big lie to say that what Ahmadinejad was saying, that he's going to wipe Israel off the map, or as the President so often says, threaten to destroy Israel.
01:11:12.000He has done nothing of the kind, and besides all that, he doesn't have the capability to do that.
01:11:17.000So if we strike Iran, it will be completely, because our President has been, as Scowcroft said, mesmerized by the Israeli leaders.
01:11:27.000Ray McGovern, in closing, to be specific, I don't want there to be a war.
01:11:36.000Obviously, though, the neocons are the bad guys that they attack, so I'm not politicizing this.
01:11:41.000I'm just looking at the basic facts here, and to me, If Iran doesn't have a capability of aircraft carriers and ICBMs and whatever, they're going to need to use asymmetrical warfare.
01:11:52.000You have a hundred, two hundred, a thousand, there's different battle plans, to blow up all their power plants, blow up their bridges, their water plants, anything for quote industry.
01:12:02.000A total bombing to the stone age of their country, mass murder.
01:12:05.000I mean, then any means they've got to fight back, is that even really going to be, quote, terrorism?
01:12:12.000And the media and the government's already said, if they raise a fist to fight back, it will be called terrorism, and that they're then going to nuke them.
01:12:20.000What the neocons have said is, if you fight back, we're going to nuke you.
01:12:24.000Yeah, someone said once that a terrorist is a fighter without aircraft, without stealth bombers, you know?
01:12:32.000If that's all you've got, that's what you're going to use, and you can be assured that an attack on Iran would let loose that kind of terrorism worldwide, and I'm talking about worldwide, and to include our country.
01:12:44.000And instead of it being a fake Saudi Arabian-U.S.-Pakistan run Al-Cieda, we're talking about real terrorists.
01:13:17.000Well, you know, I know their capability, as well as their intentions in this case, and their capabilities in Europe in particular, and in Asia, and to a slightly less degree in this country, are, as I say, such as to put al-Qaeda to, you know, to ridicule in terms of how much the Iranians could do.
01:13:35.000So, you know, that's one reason, and I think it's It's a big mistake on Iran's part, that they're so damn smug, that they're so damn confident that we wouldn't possibly try to do this.
01:13:46.000Well, in closing, just look at the economy.
01:13:48.000If they mine harbors, if they sink ships in canals, they're in the key straits of Ormuz.
01:13:56.000I mean, that right there will send oil to $500 a barrel.
01:14:01.000You know, the question is whether anybody's telling Bush that, you know, he knows there's a big gas pump there in Crawford, and he's got a lot of money, and, you know, it's an open question to me as to whether he gives rat fair support, in my expression, as to what happens after January of next year.
01:14:20.000Ray McGovern, are there any particular websites for people to learn more about your organization and other groups you support?
01:14:26.000The best one is ConsortiumNews.com, run by Robert Perry, one of the best investigative journalists in the country.
01:14:36.000AfterDowningStreet.org is a wonderful site if you want to keep up with just about everything that's going on in Congress as well as other places.
01:15:33.000We've only got part of this segment and the next.
01:15:35.000I've got local news stories here out of Virginia.
01:15:38.000out of Washington, and they've been part of national parades before, but Veterans for Peace has been told in the new America, it doesn't matter if you, it's a huge veterans group.
01:15:47.000By the way, Ray McGovern's a part of it, a lot of locals here are part of it.
01:15:50.000It's a really classy group, Veterans for Peace, and they are not allowed to be part of that here in the great old USA.
01:16:16.000Thank you so much for coming on, Michael Marceau.
01:16:18.000In a nutshell, what's happened to your arch-criminal group?
01:16:24.000You're not allowed to be part of the parade.
01:16:26.000Well, let me clarify that we are the Investors for Peace Washington, D.C.
01:16:30.000area chapter, and we have been in contact with this group, American Veterans Center is the one that is sponsoring the parade, and if you go to their website, you will see such entities as Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Kaki, CACI, which is a huge subcontractor here in the Washington, D.C.
01:16:50.000area, The National Rifle Association is also one of the sponsors, and at one time I believe the government of Kuwait was listed on their website as a sponsor.
01:17:00.000I'm just puzzled as to why they think groups like that do not have a political viewpoint, but we do.
01:17:06.000Sure, your phone's a little overdriven.
01:17:08.000Back off of it a bit so we can hear you clearly.
01:17:10.000Yeah, they've got all these clearly political groups there, but they play this game of, oh, we're not being political, no First Amendment for you.
01:17:18.000And if you also look in past parades here, this group, American Veterans Center, has allowed groups like Revolutionary War and Actors, active duty military groups to march.
01:17:30.000And if those guys are not said to be carrying a political message, and I do not understand why Veterans for Peace, which opposes all wars and wants to let American people know the true cost of wars, not only in dollar amounts, which is in excess of $1 trillion, and moving upward very rapidly. which is in excess of $1 trillion, and moving upward
01:17:48.000But we're also concerned about the 4,000-plus dead American servicemen and women and also the 30,000-plus injuries sustained by those troops, as well as their family members who suffer from seeing their loved ones killed or injured.
01:18:03.000And the resources either from the military medical facilities and the Veterans Administration medical facilities are not adequate, not even very close to being adequate.
01:18:15.000Well, Mr. Marceau, the numbers we've got...
01:18:18.000...traumatic stress disorder would come...
01:18:21.000Sure, they don't count people who die outside country as you know, so it's more like 18,000 now, dead troops, and more like 100,000 injured, so your numbers may be a little different from the ones I've ferreted out, but even those official numbers are incredible.
01:18:35.000Plus, we're five plus years into this.
01:18:37.000I bet money, if you guys try to go out there without the permit, I bet they're going to arrest you, but maybe that's the attention we need.
01:18:44.000Are you still going to try to go out and be handing out flyers or educating people?
01:18:49.000While we're still talking about that right now, we have some emails and some phone calls among members of our chapter, and we haven't really decided anything yet.
01:18:58.000But I know last year in Boston, and last year I think it was in Southern California, I want to say Santa Barbara maybe, but two of our Veterans for Peace chapters were not allowed to march in Veterans Day parades.
01:19:12.000There's another chapter in Washington State that is not allowed to march in this year's Memorial Day Parade.
01:19:17.000So, this is not an isolated incident, and that's why we're trying to... Well, yes, sir.
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01:24:18.000He stood six foot six and weighed 245, kind of broad at the shoulder, narrow at the hip.
01:24:23.000And everybody knew you didn't give no lip to Big John.
01:25:03.000But no, they can't be involved because that would shatter the illusion that the war is tied somehow to being patriotic.
01:25:11.000When the people running the war, Halliburton, have moved to Dubai and Cheney's got a house in Dubai and the Bush's one in Paraguay and they're destroying the U.S.
01:25:20.000They're puppets for the New World Order, but they're doing it.
01:25:23.000Michael, you've got a few minutes left.
01:25:25.000In closing, tell us about your website, your group, and any ideas on what you'll be planning on Veterans Day while the rest of Americans are out, or not Veterans Day, Memorial Day, while the rest of Americans are out dodging police under federal funding, sucking our blood for blood tests.
01:25:46.000And if you go online there, there was a poll within the last day or two in a local paper about this, and about three-quarters of the folks are in favor of us marching in the parade.
01:25:56.000So please go to that website and add your vote to that tally.
01:25:59.000Right now we are still discussing if we want to just go as spectators and stand on the sideline and hold our Veterans for Peace banner and another sign that said kick out a parade.
01:26:11.000We know that there will be some media that way and we are hoping that we will get our message across in that manner and in a calm, civilized, peaceful manner.
01:26:18.000Now I wonder if enforcers who believe the First Amendment is evil will come over and tell you that you're not allowed to do that.
01:26:24.000YouTube that and keep those cameras rolling 24-7.
01:26:29.000Yeah, we're going to try to see if we can get some folks with video cams and that kind of stuff out there on Monday and see what happens, but so far most of the responses that we've got from being on talk shows the last couple of days have been very positive and we're gratified that the American people can see through the stories and the lies and the information.
01:26:49.000Their officers have now been taught that freedom in the First Amendment is evil, so look out!
01:26:55.000How do people contact you, who aren't even part of Veterans for Peace, to come out and videotape, support you, you know, kind of be observers of enemy operations?
01:27:03.000Well, just look for the National Memorial Day Parade.
01:27:06.000It's right down Constitution Avenue in the heart of D.C.
01:27:09.000I think it starts about 2 p.m., so show up around noon, get a good front row seat, and kind of watch the festivities, as they say.
01:27:29.000Alright, and you can find that in Google or YouTube, or by going to Yahoo.
01:27:34.000Well, thank you so much for coming on, sir.
01:27:37.000Hey, we appreciate the chance to tell our story and to understand that the rest of America is with us in spite of the silliness that goes on here in Washington, D.C.
01:27:45.000We know the rest of America is with us, and we certainly appreciate that.
01:27:48.000And to all my fellow veterans, have a safe and quiet and peaceful Memorial Day.
01:27:52.000Thank you so much for coming on with us.
01:27:58.000Gotta defend his First Amendment, ladies and gentlemen.
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01:36:47.000He wants to put in a job application, because they have thousands of servants in there, for the summer, getting the Grove ready and for the 15-day encampment.
01:36:55.000and you want to talk to him so i called him and he said yeah i got a little camera i'm gonna i'm gonna go job there i think i've got a job there and i said man this is serious is it a joke they will set you up it will kill you and he's like well you got it and you were okay and i said yeah i am a public figure and a it's it's harder for them to kill me doesn't mean they may not i said they killed other people uh...
01:37:32.000Sure enough, I get sent these memory sticks with video of inside the chalet where they hatched the Manhattan Project, Star Wars, Cold War, so much of it.
01:37:53.000And so, I mean, it was serious when I snuck in in 2000.
01:37:56.000It was serious when he snuck in and was working there and secretly shot video in 2005.
01:38:02.000Then, years later, and Jack can go over the timeline here and the time we have with the basics, but I'm just giving you the background here.
01:38:12.000We even knew him as Kyle the few times he was a guest on the show.
01:38:14.000And I didn't even want to do that because I knew they could get voice print if he'd been in the military and things.
01:38:18.000And I had him on, put the film out, and then he showed neighbors and gave the whole neighborhood, like we recommend, copies of my film and the film he was in.
01:38:31.000And then teenagers came over, 14, 15-year-olds, he gave them copies.
01:38:36.000And it turned into like a witch hunt in the neighborhood there.
01:38:39.000They said, he is killing this child in front of an idol.
01:38:42.000They came and arrested him to investigate if he'd killed the child at Bohemian Grove.
01:38:48.000I mean, understand, the film he's giving people is aired on national television.
01:38:53.000Okay, and the cops come and arrest him, and he was convicted.
01:38:56.000They said that showing fourteen-year-olds, and we've got all the court documents, that that was a point, a type of child abuse, and they said, we're targeting you, and he didn't want to come on air a year ago when they started the trial and the proceedings, because he thought, well, I'll beat it, this is ridiculous, and he went in court and They showed the film and admitted that it was about this and admitted and wouldn't let a lot of other stuff in and just said you're going to jail for this video.
01:39:25.000Now Kelly Rushing gave a Ron Paul video to a state police officer in Kentucky.
01:40:05.000We here at our two police and military associations are very worried about Chris because just the other day, oh I guess you know, when they first arrested him, the powerful internationalist and politicians who came after him after recording their Bohemian Grove, came after him through the court system and the first time they arrested him,
01:40:30.000They took him down to Theo Lacey Jail, there in Orange, California.
01:40:37.000And the prison guards yelled to all the prisoners, this man, Chris Jones, has F'd two little boys.
01:40:46.000And they yelled that out to all the prisoners, and so they caught Chris in the shower and beat him almost to death.
01:40:55.000And that was all a staged event, and now he's in jail, down at the Theo Lacey Jail, and we're in contact with the sheriff's assistants and sheriff there.
01:41:07.000And telling him of our great concern that he's our brother.
01:41:29.000Mark Dice goes to the same church with their girlfriends to church.
01:41:33.000But the thing is, That what he was convicted of was giving a video to children, which has aired on national television.
01:41:42.000Yeah, he was convicted of three charges.
01:41:45.000Matter of fact, out of six, they charged him with six charges.
01:41:49.000And they had to drop three because the young boys that he babysitted for eight, nine years ago, they said he molested these kids.
01:41:58.000And they took these kids in the room like I've seen them do in the Phoenix Police Department, and Child Protective Services comes in and really psychologically beats the kids up until they finally... Yeah, they'll keep them two days without food and water until they say that... Exactly.
01:42:15.000Yeah, and so that's what they did to the kids, but when the kids got to trial, they got up and said that he never touched us, he never did anything wrong to us, and it just ticked the judge, the criminal judge and the criminal prosecutor off so bad that they... Now, Jack, I want to go back.
01:42:33.000I want to stop you from covering all the facts.
01:42:35.000This started, he was first arrested, because I have all the court documents, or some of them he sent me.
01:42:41.000Where they said it was a video of a snuff film of burning a baby to an idol.
01:43:06.000And they told the truth on the witness stand.
01:43:10.000The judge had purposely stacked the jury.
01:43:14.000Luckily, former FBI agent, special agent in charge, Ted Gunnarsson, sat in on the whole trial, and Ted and I have been in a conference over this, and he told me that the judge, when they selected the jury, Uh, Alex, uh, there was a guy in there that said he wanted to personally kill Chris because of the charges against him.
01:43:35.000And the judge says, does that mean you can't be, uh, unbiased and serve on the jury?
01:43:41.000And the guy says, well, I'll try judge.
01:43:43.000And he says, okay, you're on the jury.
01:44:00.000Well, they found a kid that had been accused of child molestation that Chris had babysitted.
01:44:10.000The guy got on the witness stand, he's a teenager now too, and I guess he's a pedophile, but they wouldn't let the jury know that, but Chris told me that.
01:44:22.000And the kid said that they got into a wrestling match and pulled their pants down, and Chris sat down on the couch and he had a bulge in his pants.
01:44:35.000Well, Chris says whenever you sit down with a loose pair of jeans on, if they're not form-fitting, you have a bulge right there.
01:45:34.000They've sent a shill in as his cellmate, a stooge for the government.
01:45:43.000And that guy got in the cell with Chris here a few days ago and started telling him, saying things to him about his homosexuality and everything.
01:46:29.000Well, the guards came down and they told him to sit down and shut up, that there was nothing to it, because they're just a three-inch-low piece of pencil.
01:46:37.000They only allow them to have those short, low pencils, you know?
01:46:42.000Then he said to Chris, I'm going to get my buddies together and we're going to kill you.
01:46:47.000Now he's already been beaten half to death.
01:46:49.000Yeah, he's already been beaten half to death.
01:46:51.000He was beaten unconscious there when they first arrested him.
01:46:56.000And so Chris got scared and told his mom about it, and her mom got a hold of us here at our two police and military associations, so I contacted the sheriff right away.
01:47:06.000Jack, can we give numbers out concerning this?
01:47:10.000Because I want to get some phone numbers out.
01:47:12.000Yeah, the reason I asked to come on is very important, Alex, that we've got the judge, David Thompson, and we'd like everybody to mail just a sentence or a paragraph to the judge asking the judge To let Chris out, because his life's in danger.
01:47:29.000But I mean, to be clear, let's give the numbers out.
01:47:54.000But, I mean, this is an incredible part.
01:47:55.000Guy with no criminal record, and he's been convicted of having a bulge in his pants nine years ago, which is made up, and it all began with him saying he killed a baby in front of an idol because neighbors saw the video and called the cops.
01:48:09.000Once the cops come, they're just going to set you up, or what?
01:48:12.000Well, they have special cops like they did in the Phoenix Police Department that they know will commit any crime and will do anything they're told to do, ordered to do, because that's who's promoted up through the ranks.
01:48:25.000Anybody that's totally committed to shooting their mother for a nickel and taking bets on which way she'll fall, are promoted up through the ranks, and the good officers with high moral character never get promoted today in law enforcement.
01:48:39.000And so they always get these officers to go in and to commit these crimes against people like Chris, and they'll do anything, say anything, and follow orders exactly.
01:48:50.000Yeah, there's no doubt that they have come after him, and I told him how dangerous it was.
01:48:55.000You know, people don't realize how dangerous this is.
01:48:57.000Infiltrating the Grove, then him getting a job there.
01:48:59.000Everybody's giggling and laughing, saying they're going to go get jobs there.
01:49:03.000I'm not trying to scare you away from it, folks.
01:49:05.000But you remember, Jack, when you called me about this, and I told Chris, I said, you do what you want, buddy, I'm not involved.
01:49:10.000Because I can risk my life in being set up, but I'm not going to risk yours, and he sent me that great footage.
01:49:17.000David Thompson, give us the address, give us the jail number, give us a phone number.
01:49:20.000Please folks, just do a paragraph, a short little few sentences, and ask the judge to let Chris out.
01:49:26.000He's not a flight risk, he's not a threat to society.
01:49:31.000And write to Judge David A. Thompson, T-H-O-M-P-S-O-N, and his address is 700 Civic Center Drive, And right after that, there's a large W and a period.
01:49:50.000It might be West, but don't spell out the word West because we don't know if it's a West or not.
01:49:54.000But it's 700 Civic Center Drive with a W period.
01:50:02.000And then it's Santa Ana, Santa, just like Santa Claus, Ana, A-N-A, California, 9-2-7-0-2.
01:50:25.000Well, now, let me tell you what happened yesterday after I called the sheriff and assistant sheriff J.B.
01:50:30.000Davis and told him that he was in fear of his life and that he had just been threatened that they were going to kill him.
01:50:37.000His mother wrote back to us and told us that a friend had just gone by the Theo Lacey jail And that Chris was immediately processed out and transferred to Wasco near Bakersfield, where they say he's undergoing a 90 days assessment.
01:50:59.000And his mother says, I can't imagine what they're assessing, but please pray for Chris because they could be shooting him up.
01:51:06.000They could be shooting... No, no, they do that.
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01:54:34.000It's been 10 years, solitary confinement, in prison, drug, no judge, no jury, no nothing.
01:54:40.000And yeah, when you hear being assessed, that means they probably got him, uh, put him on Thorazine, injecting him, and they'll say, look, he's slobbering, he's mentally ill.
01:55:26.000And I have a need that right away you get a paragraph off to the judge, but also there's a number here to call the criminal court, and I think it really is a criminal court.
01:55:38.000But it's in Santa Ana, and it's where Judge Thompson is, and the phone number is 714, area code 834-3593.
01:55:59.000And just tell the lady there or tell the judge if you get through to the judge to let Chris out during his appeal that he's not a flight risk and that he's a proud member of the American Citizens and Lawmen Association.
01:56:14.000A lot of lawmen support him and know about him.
01:56:18.000And that he ought to be out during his appeal because they're talking about killing him now.
01:56:23.000Also, Alex, I would ask the people, please pray for Chris because when they're assessing him for this 90 days, they don't allow him to have any visitors at all.
01:57:31.000It's spelled like Costco, but with a W.
01:57:34.000We don't know anything about it right now.
01:57:36.000We're going to check into it, Alex, and find out what it is, but all we can find out is that inmates have gone there for assessment for 90 days and are allowed no visitors.
01:57:47.000So, we'll see if we can find out information about that, but right now, The jail that he was in, Theo Lacey Jail, the Sheriff's Jail, he's not there anymore.
01:57:58.000So now they've put you into facilities where no one's even allowed to see you.