In this episode of The Alex Jones Show, host Jason Bermas and Alex discuss the Austin, Texas shooting, the proposed Oklahoma secede from the United States, and the ongoing investigation into the mass shooting at a coffee shop.
00:00:25.000Alex will be joining us at the top of the next hour, in the first hour we're going to be taking your calls.
00:00:32.000And I forgot to mention this yesterday, just because I got caught up with all the other news, and we're going to be going over that Oklahoma secession.
00:00:40.000By the way, I'm going to be reading the entire bill that passed, I believe, 92 to 3. God bless those good people.
00:00:46.000Anyway, the Austin Governor's Mansion.
00:00:50.000They are now saying it was politically motivated and somebody who had a problem with the system or the governor.
00:00:58.000Weird. We're now more than a week deep into this thing.
00:01:02.000They say they have suspects, they say they have video, but they can't figure out who did it.
00:01:07.000The police were suspiciously missing when the event actually happened.
00:01:12.000It took, you know, 15-20 minutes after the fire started for the firefighters to get there and another 10-15 minutes for the police to get there.
00:01:20.000And now they're saying it's politically motivated.
00:01:23.000How much do you want to bet that's going to be to restrict our freedoms?
00:01:48.000Steamed over a perceived increase in federal usurping of states' rights, Oklahoma's House of Representatives told Washington, D.C. to back off.
00:01:58.000Joint Resolution 1089, passed by an overwhelming 92-3 margin, let me say it again, 92-3, reasserts Oklahoma's sovereignty under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
00:02:22.000And according to the resolution's own language, is serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates.
00:02:30.000The Tenth Amendment states, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
00:02:47.000This makes me want to move to Oklahoma.
00:02:50.000Traditionally, this language has meant that the federal government is limited in its scope and cannot usurp the sovereign powers of states.
00:03:02.000In recent decades, however, as the size and reach of the federal government has expanded, many have come to question whether Washington has stepped on states' rights and gotten too big for its bridges.
00:03:39.000Okay? It's a Republican who puts out the bill to secede from Oklahoma.
00:03:45.000Let's see though the whiny neocons try to play this one off.
00:03:48.000I'm sure it'll just totally be blacked out by the media I know I didn't see anything in the in the coffee shop when I when I got my brew ha ha this morning I didn't see anything about this, but I didn't look too hard, so I don't want to jump to any conclusions Charles Key the Republican state representative who authored the resolution told WND that's worldnetdaily That he introduced it because he believes the federal government's overstepping its bounds has put our constitutional form of government in danger It's basically eviscerated it.
00:04:16.000The more we stand by and watch the federal government get involved in areas where it has no legal authority, we kill the Constitution a little at a time.
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00:08:23.000I'm producer on Loose Change, and I'll be sitting in for the rest of the week.
00:08:27.000And I do want to make it clear, you know, this doesn't mean that Oklahoma has totally seceded.
00:08:31.000This means the resolution has been passed, and now they're taking it to the next level.
00:08:37.000I'm not sure where it goes from here, but I will read the resolution on air.
00:08:43.000A joint resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates and directing distribution.
00:08:55.000Whereas the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows, the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution nor prohibited by it to the states are reserved to the states respectively or to the people.
00:09:10.000And whereas the Tenth Amendment defines The total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more and Whereas the scope of the power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states and whereas today in 2008 the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government and
00:09:38.000whereas many federal mandates Are directly in violation of the 10th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and whereas the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York versus the United States 112 South I think Connecticut 2408 that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory process of the states and whereas a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from
00:10:08.000the President Uh, administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.
00:10:16.000Now, therefore, be it resolved by the House of Representatives and the Senate of the second session of the 51st Oklahoma Legislature that the state of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.
00:10:37.000That this serve as notice and demand to the federal government as our agent to cease and desist effective immediately mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.
00:10:50.000That a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House of the President of the Senate, I think it's great.
00:11:19.000I think it shows that we do have incredible powers.
00:11:21.000It shows that the federal government doesn't have the kibosh on the people that they would like.
00:11:28.000You know, it doesn't have that iron fist.
00:11:32.000There are still some people who are caught up in, you know, politics on the right-left scale, on the Democrat-Republican scale, that do care.
00:11:43.000I mean, we had Paul Gregg Roberts on yesterday.
00:11:44.000You know, I may not agree with everything he says.
00:11:49.000I've noticed that a lot of people who have actually served in administrations, I'm not going to name names right now, but a couple people who were in my film, they really are big time against the Israeli lobby.
00:12:00.000They feel like That's the numero uno problem, but I see that as, you know, they butted heads with these people many a times when they were in office, and they've seen what our policy looks like in the Middle East, but if you notice, yesterday when I brought up the Paul Craig Roberts,
00:12:17.000that on Friday, the mainstream news had reported that a prison was attacked, and a thousand militants got out, 400 of them Taliban, By Monday the Taliban had a stronghold again in Afghanistan that was CNN and By Monday afternoon it came out that US forces gave quote-unquote the green light For that attack to take place So those Taliban could scurry about Afghanistan and we could have an excuse to stay there for another five to ten years
00:12:47.000Okay Now he didn't want to talk about that.
00:12:51.000He didn't want to talk about Basically an op that's an op That's an op for us to stay there.
00:12:58.000All the policy in the world, okay, between us and Israel isn't going to stop that if our government continues to provocate matters in the Middle East so they can stay there.
00:13:08.000It's just like when those UK soldiers, I think that's all the way back in 2004 now, maybe 2005, were caught dressed as Arabs ready to blow up a mosque, okay, when they were detained.
00:13:25.000By the time That the UK military actually got there to get him out of the prison, and the people who were running the prison already knew to let them go.
00:13:45.000Why? Well, they knew that if they didn't let him go, British troops were just going to come in and destroy their prison anyway, maybe kill them.
00:14:47.000And personally, I'm not down with a soft fascism either.
00:14:51.000You know, I'm not down With a soft-style police state, I'm not down with somebody who's going to be able to lie to my face and fool 80 to 90% of the people because he is well-spoken.
00:15:01.000I don't need another Bill Clinton out there.
00:15:10.000But people are falling into it and he's the lesser of two evils and I think it's bull.
00:15:16.000I don't think he's the lesser of two evils.
00:15:18.000I think he's the slicker of two evils.
00:15:20.000John McCain is just so overt In his fear-mongering, in his war-mongering, in his bomb-bomb-bomb Iran, in his pro-torture stance, parroting that it's a huge mistake that we let habeas corpus pass.
00:15:36.000I can't believe that the Supreme Court would give them the right to face their accuser.
00:17:09.000So now it's white people who are in Al-Qaeda, blonde people that are in Al-Qaeda.
00:17:13.000It doesn't even have to be Middle Eastern.
00:17:14.000I bet they don't even have to be jihadists.
00:17:17.000We know that they're running drills now.
00:17:19.000And by the way, I brought up those Denver drills yesterday.
00:17:24.000Jonathan from We Are Change Colorado got us a bunch of great footage.
00:17:28.000He should be sending that out in the next two days.
00:17:31.000Urban warfare drills, black helicopters, Apaches, detention centers, the whole nine yards.
00:17:40.000Current military, former military, working with the police, right now, as we speak, in Denver, running massive Drills and other denying it in some publications that it's for the DNC But let's be honest it is You know let's let let's be real.
00:18:01.000They'd love to provocateur an event there That's why a lot of us have to go out there.
00:18:05.000You know if you're not doing anything or you're in the Denver area I got to tell you you need to figure out a way out there you need to Go there.
00:18:17.000You need to bring a hundred DVDs you burned.
00:18:19.000You need to hand them out to other people.
00:18:22.000And people you feel that you can reach out that aren't the provocateurs that are being provocateured into wearing masks, carrying paint, destroying cameras, basically trying to stop our free speech.
00:18:33.000You need to explain to them that the group that first put this together, Recreate 68, wanted violence.
00:18:45.000But I hear the group that they've put together, and these are the only group that got a permit to protest.
00:18:50.000Weird. None of the peaceful groups were welcome to protest, but the ones that, you know, put out a PDF file about how you need to build a shield and wear armor and throw paint at people, they're the ones that get the permit.
00:19:04.000Okay? So now they've changed their name.
00:19:07.000You know, different name, probably same old tricks.
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00:25:58.000We've got what's going on for you at the Denver downtown area, and we give out, all you gotta do is put in Google the words, Office of Counterintelligence, U.S. Pentagon, or in search Yahoo.
00:26:18.000Oh, it'll explain what's going on in downtown Denver.
00:26:21.000When you, yay, who's even better than Google, and both of them explain the exact situation that the public broadcast doesn't tell you about.
00:26:31.000And if you type in, like I said, you gotta type in Office of Counterintelligence, U.S. Pentagon.
00:26:37.000When you see the big bold letters as you scan down the page, and you click on it, and it gives you the name.
00:26:45.000About where to go under the letter where we see the big letters and it'll tell you all of information like ours Our team actually found the headquarters of the group called recreate 68 It's at 1290 Marion Street in Denver.
00:27:02.000They don't have a phone number and What they do they link with the local broadcasters in the area when the violence is going to take place and they'll be You know, making problems for everybody there.
00:27:17.000And they, of course, are infiltrated, as you well know.
00:28:01.000I did want to comment, however, on Representative Charles Key.
00:28:08.000Now, a lot of folks may not remember this or know in the first place, but he was the one who really pushed and actually did an investigation, and he exposed all of what happened down in OKC with the Murrah building.
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00:34:39.000So it's the government provocatoring a biological attack and using anarchists as the patsies.
00:34:45.000Oh yeah, and it goes all the way up to the top of the White House, and it shows...
00:34:51.000Well, they did this not so long ago with that show Jericho.
00:34:53.000They let off 20-plus nukes in American cities everywhere.
00:34:56.000They blamed the Iranians and the Koreans working with anarchists within the country, and then it later comes out that in actuality, the program was put out there by Berkley& Jensen, I believe, a private corporation, and the head of I'm
00:36:02.000And we're going to be walking from Green Bay, Wisconsin, and Ames, Iowa, all the way to Minneapolis.
00:36:13.000And we'll be spreading the message of freedom.
00:36:16.000Basically, this is starting from the Ron Paul movement, and we'll be, you know, just informing people about the Constitution, the fact that we no longer have one in this country, and that it needs to be restored, and it's a public educational and organizational campaign.
00:36:36.000People are going to walk 280 miles in 21 days and about three weeks.
00:36:42.000It's the same length of walk and length of time that Gandhi walked when he walked to the sea to break the British tax on salt.
00:37:16.000We're going to have a fleet of RVs that are going to serve as mobile dormitories, mess halls, bathrooms, and we need people to drive the RVs to get to the Take care of logistics, food and water.
00:37:47.000I found out about it like two days ago, and it was probably, I think it's one of the best turns for the better we've seen in your country.
00:37:56.000As far as state taking responsibility against the federal government, but I also think that there's a chance that it might set the stage for the opportunity for the federal government to unroll the military upon the state of Oklahoma, putting it under martial law, forcing it to stay a part of the United States.
00:38:16.000So you think that it sets the stage for martial law to be completely...
00:38:22.000Uh, you know, this is a ploy for the states to resist and then the federal government to come in and maybe declare martial law against them.
00:38:29.000Well, because what they're going to want to do is they're saying, like, they're saying to the government, back off.
00:38:33.000We don't, we don't want you telling us what to do anymore.
00:38:36.000And I think if we've seen by the government's actions in the past that they're going to do it by force, they'll take control by force.
00:38:44.000Well, I'm hoping that you're wrong, man.
00:38:46.000I mean, I mean, obviously that's a possibility and we'll keep our eyes open for that.
00:38:51.000But, I mean, I honestly think this is a positive thing, and I think the federal government would get a huge amount of flack if they started rolling tanks down in Oklahoma.
00:39:13.000I really do, and it'll be interesting to see How much do people literally have to take to the streets and stand up for what they believe in to make this happen?
00:39:32.000Living up here in Cheyenne, I get, of course, all the Denver channels on cable, and I've been watching all of these so-called terrorist drills going on in Denver since Sunday.
00:39:41.000And they were talking about on Channel 2 and Channel 7, and by the way, Channel 7's website that has a lot of good photos is thedenverchannel.com.
00:39:55.000And they've been talking about how these so-called exercises are going to be going on for most of the week.
00:40:02.000And when people call in to find out what the heck is going on, they're being told it's none of your business.
00:40:07.000And this is the same thing that happened in Houston about 15 years ago when they were holding live fire Exercises in Houston there at the Houston Ship Channel and Channel 2 of Houston KPRC-TV went down there to cover it and you saw the bullet holes and pockmarks in the buildings and When the police chief at the time police chief Sam Nucci was asked What's going on here?
00:40:31.000His comment was the public doesn't have the right to know now in a related incident On Channel 2 News out of Denver last night, some egghead left-wing professor from Boulder, Colorado has issued a report stating that people who drive with bumper stickers on their car are more prone to aggression.
00:40:53.000So, in other words, if you stand up to speak your peace, to exercise your God-given First Amendment rights, then you are prone to aggression, so someone has to keep a sharp eye on you.
00:41:41.000The feds are coming in from Cheyenne and they've got these special trucks down there that who knows what the heck they're for, but they're doing this to condition people to the fact, and I called in on a local talk show to try to wake people up this morning,
00:41:56.000That what they're doing is a little mind-conditioning, and they want us to believe that there's an Arab hiding behind every bush with an AK-47, and we're supposed to fear them, but I said the only terrorists we have to fear about, basically, are from Langley, Virginia.
00:42:13.000Well, I think that there's a lot going on.
00:42:18.000I mean, I think it's more than just Langley, Virginia, although Langley, obviously, an intelligence hub, but there's intelligence hubs throughout the country.
00:42:24.000I mean, you look what was over in the World Trade Center prior to the attacks.
00:42:27.000I mean, World Trade Center 7 housed the largest CIA office outside of Langley.
00:42:31.000It had the largest Secret Service office in the world, a large FBI base.
00:42:35.000I mean, you know, total spook houses throughout the country.
00:42:46.000Hey man, when Alex was up in Bilderberg, you made a comment about Current.com and Coincidentally, at the time I was dealing with them on a censorship issue, and your comment was like, you know, how they let stuff go by for the truth movement.
00:43:01.000Oddly enough, right now on their site, they've actually let the Mike Revelle story for the independent 9-1-1 investigation for the 9-11 ballot initiative, that's actually going to be hitting their news here in a few moments.
00:43:16.000But I just wanted to tell the community Yeah, absolutely, man. Let's go to Evangeline in Virginia.
00:43:47.000Hi, I just wanted to call and first of all thank you very much for all the effort that you have put in and Alex also into exposing the reality of what's happening.
00:43:59.000I'm prior military and I think it was like 2003 is when I first saw a loose change and I was at the time thinking because things weren't making sense and it was just a really great catalyst for putting me on the path, finding what was really going on.
00:44:18.000I saw that you guys were going to be talking about weather today.
00:44:22.000Yes. But I don't really have anything to say about that.
00:44:26.000I just wanted to say that in light of Dennis Kucinich's recent heroic thing that he's been doing with the 35 articles for impeachment, If anybody doesn't know, if any of the Alex Jones listeners are ever appointed to a grand jury position, there's a lot of...
00:45:19.000And you guys are definitely, you know, you've made tons of headway.
00:45:21.000I mean, if I can call my mom, who's like a fundamental Baptist in Maine, and she is, you know, a diehard Bush and Reagan fan, and she's been exposed to it, then you guys are definitely leading the, you know, I mean, there's no question about it.
00:45:34.000But I did happen to see There's a really great Google video called L.A. Lawman.
00:45:46.000If anybody wants to just look it up, Google it, L.A. Lawman.
00:45:49.000It talks about the grand jury and how it would work.
00:45:50.000I definitely don't think it's where we need to put all your attention or energy, but if you're called, You know, you should be aware of what your rights and what the potential is for you to make a difference in that situation.
00:46:02.000So if you're educating yourself about what's going on, just like take three seconds and, you know, if you get a letter in the mail that, you know, requests your, uh, you know, you stand on a grand jury, then, um...
00:46:14.000Well, I'll definitely have people look at it.
00:46:59.000In all your good work that you've done over the years on 9-1-1, why haven't you brought out the point that 9-1-1, the planning for it, started in the Clinton administration?
00:47:14.000Well, I mean, I do try to point out that the Sudanese...
00:47:17.000I mean, it's not in our films, but when I go around and give a talk, I try to point out that this is not just the Bush administration.
00:47:23.000I do try to point out that the Sudanese did offer bin Laden up.
00:47:27.000Instead of taking bin Laden, we bombed Sudan and we ended up...
00:47:31.000we said it was a target that was bin Laden's, you know, hideout.
00:47:33.000It turned out to be one of their big medical centers where they produced most of their aspirin.
00:47:38.000So, I mean, I do bring up that portion about it.
00:49:00.000Let me give you a couple links right now.
00:49:03.000uh... if you go to the guardian okay that's who reported on friday that this attack took place that's the u k guardian just type in uh...
00:49:11.000guardian afghan prison attack okay now monday they reported on cnn it was on cnn dot com that uh...
00:49:21.000there was a big insurgents of the taliban in in kandahar afghanistan and other places basically the taliban had took over and then the article that i'm looking at right now that came out in monday On Monday afternoon, U.S. role in Afghan prison attack.
00:49:36.000If you type that into Google in quotation marks, the first thing that should come up is this Press TV, which is an international media source article, where it says, U.S.-led forces have played a part in a Taliban attack on and against or on an Afghanistan prison that set hundreds of militants free, some reports speculate.
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00:52:16.000Many have heard the story of Pavel's dogs, the Russian scientists financed by the murderous red dictator Stalin.
00:52:23.000Pavel's experimentation with animals and humans popularized the expression, conditioned reflex.
00:52:29.000Edward Hunter in his book, Brainwashing, reports how the scientists Conditioned dogs to respond to such things as lights and sounds.
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00:55:02.000And for that last caller, if you're looking for the actual article, it's at WorldNetDaily.
00:55:06.000If you're not just looking for the resolution of Oklahoma trying to secede from the Union, using its state's rights, it's Oklahoma to Feds, don't tread on me, it's at a WorldNetDaily, your government at work.
00:55:19.000When Alex gets on, and hopefully he'll be on with me at the top of the hour, we're going to be talking about this article out of the New York Times, Bush will seek to end offshore drilling ban.
00:55:29.000Now I'm pretty sure that his father Hey, Jason.
00:55:49.000You're doing a masterful job, my friend.
00:55:52.000You know, I want to reiterate that Oklahoma is not seceding from the Union.
00:56:01.000Only declaring sovereignty under the 10th Amendment, which, you know, the 10th Amendment is a part of the Constitution, so they're staying within the law.
00:56:12.000But this whole thing started back in 1994, and it's been under the wire for, well, it was on its way up until Oklahoma City.
00:56:43.000If people want to know more about this, and so there'll be less conjecture, you know, the poor fellow earlier who said he just learned about this two days ago.
00:56:54.000Well, he's under the misconception that the federal government can come in with military force.
00:57:00.000If they do, that would prove the unlawful and rogue nature of the federal government.
00:57:07.000Well, I think we've kind of seen that in some places already.
00:57:10.000If you look to California, you know, they have all these laws passed for medical marijuana, and they have all these shops where people have cards and they go in, yet the federal government still oversteps their bounds.
00:57:20.000And raids those places, treating them like common drug dealers.
00:57:23.000So I don't think it's quite out of the realm of possibility.
00:57:26.000Well, again, you know, there is a federal law against certain drugs, which that federal law, it can be argued, and if it was done properly and went to the Supreme Court, it would be overturned.
00:57:41.000And so am I. The thing is, if people want to know more about what Oklahoma's doing, go over to PrisonPlanet.com, click All right, radio broadcast, and there's a post in there all about the Oklahoma Sovereignty Declaration, and follow the links, especially the big one.
00:58:10.000Coyote, I thank you for the call, man, and he seems to know a little bit more about this than me.
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01:00:24.000Jason, I appreciate you sitting in for me.
01:00:26.000I take off a few times a year and take my children down to the Texas beach to build sandcastles.
01:00:31.000And part of this week is just such a thing, but I've been chomping at the bit, seeing all the news and watching President Bush's little speech this morning about energy that I wanted to comment about that, and then listening to you earlier today on the show talking about the Oklahoma Resolution, which I was aware they'd introduced a few months ago, I wasn't aware that they'd passed.
01:00:51.000And then also I heard you talking about how, and I actually read this morning myself, they're now saying the governor's mansion is politically motivated.
01:00:58.000That means they're going to say it is terrorism.
01:01:01.000And so, coming up after the break, I want to comment on Bush's three-part energy plan for just one segment.
01:01:09.000But in this segment, I might as well go ahead and comment first off on the governor's mansion.
01:01:14.000For those around the country, we've written key articles at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, because we're in Austin.
01:01:20.000There is a huge construction fence that's 10 feet tall around it.
01:01:25.000Then there is an 8 to 10 foot, depending on which area, around the governor's mansion, wrought iron fence with spiked stars on the top of it.
01:01:33.000There were motion sensors all around the property and 35 plus cameras on top of that, plus the sheriff's department across the street, plus the wheelhouse, as they call it, a garrisoned building of state police, which they admit state police are in.
01:01:58.000We interviewed the guy when we went down there who did, Alfonso, who did make the call.
01:02:04.000Uh, and so the whole thing is very, very suspicious.
01:02:06.000How did somebody climb over two fences, set a fire, and get out undetected when normally I've been out there at night videotaping it for films or bullroaring and they come up and confront us?
01:02:19.000So, when we say inside job, it means the government did it, the state or federal government.
01:02:48.000You were down there with me, Jason, and it was all this media, but they pointed us out and stopped having a meeting they were having outside the gates and ran back in pointing at our cameras.
01:02:56.000They seemed to recognize us out of a sea of 10 or 15 other...
01:03:00.000There's a whole bunch of other news trucks and news agencies.
01:03:02.000You couldn't tell how many because they were swarming around.
01:03:05.000But the point is, it was at least 20 reporters out there.
01:03:07.000I would guess from probably 10, 15 different agencies to different news groups.
01:03:12.000But they pointed us out and noticed we were videotaping them from 50 yards away, pointed right at me, and then went back inside to have their discussion.
01:03:22.000I mean, either it's an employee, or somebody with access, a contractor, who did it, who acted alone for political reasons, 99% chance, or it's the government.
01:03:32.000And we don't know, but we said that if they came out and claimed something alone, Patriot did it, and now they've got to crack down on, you know, anti-Semitism.
01:03:39.000NAFTA superhighway people are anti toll road people.
01:03:43.000Oh my God, you've got to be for the toll roads now.
01:03:45.000You've got to be for the tens of billions of dollars sucked out of Texans, and the NAFTA superhighway, or you're for firebombing.
01:03:50.000So we predicted a few weeks ago, when it happened, day one, that they would go ahead and say this, and they'll have some mental patient that they'll produce.
01:04:00.000If it's a Patsy, they've always got a mental background.
01:04:04.000they'll have a bunch of people in their family that work for the state or uh...
01:04:08.000they will try to frame somebody and burn their house down and kill them inside or they'll just kind of leave it hanging out there saying they believe it's a militia group or something Absolutely. I think that they're going to try to say it was white Al-Qaeda, Alex, or say it was some kind of patriot group.
01:04:25.000I feel like they'd want to set you up.
01:04:29.000They're saying it was somebody who was politically motivated.
01:04:32.000They're saying it could be a terrorist.
01:04:34.000You know, God knows what they're actually going to put out in their final report, but they say they have a tape of the guy too, but they're not putting it out.
01:08:04.000And Alex, this is another thing that I talked about yesterday, and we have a man on the ground.
01:08:08.000They're doing urban warfare drills right now in Denver, Colorado, in preparation for the DNC.
01:08:14.000Literally separate types of black helicopters, military, Well, listen, it's not my opinion that we have the declassified government documents, PDD-25, PDD-51, going back decades.
01:08:42.000I've been to urban warfare training drills.
01:08:44.000The military admits they're training to take our guns, break our families up, And put us in forced labor camps.
01:08:50.000I have all the mainstream news articles where at federal prisons they already make you work, they force you to, or they do pain compliance and strap you in torture chairs for days.
01:09:00.000The equivalent of hanging you from the dungeon ceiling with chains.
01:09:27.000They just had a military martial law takeover drill with live checkpoints all over Indianapolis, Indiana and surrounding areas with 2,000 plus Marines and over 1,000 handlers with them.
01:09:40.000Uh, they're having the martial law drills, of course, in Denver.
01:09:44.000They've done two top-off drills there, uh, in the last five years, putting people in the sports stadiums, rounding them up, sound cannons, microwave guns.
01:09:53.000Meanwhile, six months before the Oklahoma City bombing, where the feds carried out the attacks, now completely come out that the Southern Poverty Law Center was running the white supremacist compound.
01:10:06.000Andres Socrates Meyer was CIA, commanding the facility.
01:10:10.000McVeigh had been, quote, sheep-dipped out of special forces, told people, told Larry Nichols and others, and sworn affidavits, you know, that he was part of a secret government program, that they were going to bomb the building, basically, to get more security.
01:10:23.000And, of course, then he was set up and drugged until he was executed.
01:10:27.000Just as we knew, you had the most famous mind-control doctor, Jolion West, in the MKUltra hearings in 77, was his doctor until the day he died a few years ago in Terre Haute, Indiana.
01:10:38.000And then, of course, he was, uh, Mr. West died finally last year, Jolian West.
01:11:55.000You know, to teach them to love the abusers, to teach them to love the masters, to learn how to love the tyrants.
01:12:02.000And so it's very, very exciting that that resolution has passed.
01:12:07.000Also, the week before 9-11, I had members of the legislature of New Hampshire and heads of some of their largest cities on.
01:12:16.000They were instituting Article 10, Clause 10, Right to Revolt, because their state constitution was set up right when the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.
01:12:30.000Well, Declaration of Independence was in 1776, but right when that was codified into the Bill of Rights, many years later.
01:12:38.000And so, they have the, quote, right to revolt.
01:12:41.000We all have that, but it's stated it's their right to viciously, savagely, militarily attack the government if it tries to take any of their basic liberties, and that the state government and the city governments have the right to vote and pull out.
01:12:54.000They were scheduled to vote September 13th.
01:12:58.000But I'm not saying that's why the bombings took place, the attacks of 9-11, 2001.
01:13:04.000The point is, that was happening there.
01:14:50.000Headline at the New York Times is Bush will seek to end offshore drilling, oil drilling ban.
01:14:56.000Okay, well I'm here at the little Texas beach looking out at oil rigs everywhere.
01:15:01.000I'm looking at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 36 that I can just see on the horizon I can see what 10 of them are actually drilling right now.
01:15:23.000The rest are capped or wells connected, natural gas wells or oil pipeline wells that have already been drilled.
01:15:30.000This is one of the sectors in front of Port Aransas, Texas, where they, quote, allow it.
01:15:51.000Okay. Again, I was just going to try to take out four or five days of the family, but I'm sitting there watching Bush's live press conference about three hours ago, and I called up Jason and I said, I need to come on my own show because we need to break down what's happening here.
01:16:20.000Monday night, with that crazy-looking governor from Michigan, Granholm, or whatever her name is, give all their fake reasons.
01:16:28.000So I want to walk through this, because you are the only group, because of Lindsey Williams and the oil company executives, the petroleum geologist, and the oil company documents, and those lawsuits that have happened, and the documents we've got, and the fact that we've written scores of articles about the subject, and we At InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, on this radio show, we have talked to all the experts, plus my whole family.
01:16:53.000Almost all my family works in oil, as petroleum geologists, as plant managers, as plant heads, as roughnecks.
01:17:01.000I've even got some family that's got some little oil patches in their property.
01:17:07.000So at every level of it, I have an understanding of it.
01:17:11.000So what I'm telling you is the absolute Verifiable fact.
01:17:44.000It's so clear when I'm sitting there watching and all the points I want to make and then getting on air and making them was another thing because there's so many facets to the lies and I know people have also been pre-programmed to the lies where it's basically impossible for me to even be able to cover every facet because I know the preconditioned cognitive dissonant program triggers they've got to every point I'm about to make.
01:18:06.000Okay. Bush got up and he said today, He's going to open the Gulf of Mexico up to exploration and that it can't be blocked.
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01:24:16.000They use the fake environmentalist as the excuse, as the front, for why there is, you know, these incredible oil prices.
01:24:24.000Number one, almost all of the Gulf of Mexico is off-limits to U.S. companies.
01:24:29.000Bush doesn't have to wait for Congress to take the restriction off, for him to take the restriction off.
01:24:36.000The first thing Bush did, I mean, literally within two days of being in office, the first thing was he took tens of thousands of square miles that the U.S. had claimed as its oil reserve and gave it to Pemex, gave it to Mexico as part of a sweetheart deal.
01:24:52.000And Mexico's been drilling the living daylights out of it.
01:24:54.000Okay. There's another 670-something square mile patch off the coast, about 200 miles out, off the coast of Louisiana.
01:25:03.000That thing's got more than ANWR does in it.
01:25:07.000So when you hear him say, oh, we're going to take the restriction off, and then it cuts back to CNN and they say, yeah, but that'll take years to develop.
01:25:14.000They could have done this decades ago.
01:27:34.000We wrote articles about it in the last four years as oil went up.
01:27:37.000It is an absolute undeniable fact that 200 plus, 220 something, you can look it up, 200 plus refineries were bought in 96, 97, 98 to 2000 and they shut them down.
01:27:56.000The oil companies say, not a conspiracy theory, a conspiracy fact, they said there's too much oil in the U.S. Too many wildcatters are drilling.
01:28:05.000They're going to keep the price down because they don't have total police state here.
01:28:28.000There's not refining capacity, so there's thousands of capped wells in East Texas alone.
01:28:33.000Because there's no refineries that can take it because they're all over-refining and now we're shipping in millions of barrels of refined gas, not oil, gasoline each day from huge refineries in Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela, and other places.
01:28:48.000And environmentalists, they have no controls there.
01:28:50.000They dump it all right in the ocean, you idiots.
01:28:52.000That's why all this Kyoto stuff's such bull.
01:28:55.000Even if you believe it's all true, moving it to China and India means we'll have an increase in pollution instead of here where we have all these controls.
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01:32:58.000All right, folks, we're back at the Alex Jones Show, and before we shoot back to Alex, I just want to remind everybody, if you want to support this program, become a PrisonPlanet.tv subscriber.
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01:33:18.000An amazing picture, cinema verite, unlike anything you've ever seen from Alex Jones before, with confrontations of David Rockefeller, Michael Bloomberg, Absolutely, you break down the other side for us, the left side, if you will, of this issue?
01:33:47.000Jason. I'm going to let you back to the main show.
01:34:43.000It is about making them the government.
01:34:47.000And to just see Al Gore, you know, introducing Barack Obama and saying he's our savior, as if all this isn't bad enough and all of our industry moving to China and India and Mexico isn't bad enough, we're now going to have taxes and regulation and home inspectors and livestock inspectors and farm and ranch inspectors.
01:35:06.000They're talking about millions and millions of new government jobs harassing, haranguing, micromanaging our everyday lives.
01:35:15.000We're now shifting into an economy of total micromanagement and control.
01:35:19.000That will then accelerate the final jobs we had left even faster into the third world.
01:35:55.000But it has nothing to do with environmentalism.
01:35:59.000It has to do with control and regulation coming in.
01:36:06.000And taking control of every facet of our lives.
01:36:10.000So, I know the listeners all understand this, but the general public does not.
01:36:17.000This is feudalism, this is serfdom, this is control.
01:36:20.000And Boyce the Democrats are going to football it back and forth with all these false reasons of the environment and taxes and, well, you can't put these systems in soon enough.
01:36:30.000And unless the people discover why all this is happening, it's only going to get worse.
01:36:35.000Jason, I'll talk more about it when I'm back live on Sunday.
01:36:38.000I'll probably call the show again tomorrow.
01:37:21.000I don't know what the audio entails, but I'm watching this horrific clip from MSNBC where this cop slams this 16 year old kid's head into a brick wall.
01:37:32.000I'm pretty sure it's either brick or cement.
01:37:35.000Uh, it's, you know, it's inside of the school.
01:37:37.000Into it, into the wall and just puts him down.
01:37:39.000Sixteen-year-old kid, jackboot cop, let's play it.
01:39:47.000Hey, I wanted to comment on the addresses that were made to AIPAC by First McCain and then was followed Obama, then last but least relevant was Hillary, of course.
01:40:00.000And Barack Obama seemed to be the most pro-Israel out of them all.
01:40:04.000He suggested that we should be able to transfer our military technology to Israel with the same ease as we would a NATO nation.
01:40:13.000And I would like to bring to his attention the fact that we have given to Israel, and they did on Lebanon in 2006, cluster bombs that explode with hundreds of bomblets.
01:40:26.000The U.N. Mine Action Coordination Center found hundreds of unexploded U.S. munitions in 249 locations just south of the Latani River in Lebanon.
01:40:39.000And then we're also giving Israel the GBU-28 precision-guided bomb, Bunker Buster, 5,000 pounds of explosives, depleted uranium warhead.
01:40:49.000Well, this shouldn't be any kind of a shock that we arm Israel relentlessly.
01:40:54.000I mean, even Jimmy Carter A couple of months ago came out and said, look at all the weaponry that Israel's allowed to have.
01:41:01.000And these cluster bombs Reagan had a problem with, and also Israel, of course, jeopardized our relations, our military relations with the State Department when, at least twice that I've found, they've tried to sell Harpy killer drones to China, who supposedly is an ally of Iran, as well as F-14 parts.
01:41:24.000Um, and despite the fact that, uh, you know, AIPAC itself has been caught spying on us three times.
01:41:29.000Well, didn't they just get caught spying on us again?
01:41:32.000Didn't another guy who was connected to Jonathan Pollard just get arrested last month?
01:41:56.000Jonathan Pollard was the one who was convicted in the 90s of spying against the United States.
01:42:03.000And I know in 2004 they caught another one that was connected to him.
01:42:06.000And I want to say about a month ago they did catch yet another Israeli spy in this country.
01:42:11.000Well, that's good news, and that should gain more publicity.
01:42:15.000Of course, all these other spying incidents have not.
01:42:18.000And also, all the, like I said, McCain, Hillary, and Obama all mentioned that they had spent some time with these poor Israelis who had been attacked by the Hezbollah, and yet they don't mention that we are providing much more deadly, terrible war crimes, munitions, you know, these cluster bombs.
01:42:39.000To the Israelis, and they're using them indiscriminately, and of course, they're being found unexploded.
01:42:45.000The M-26 artillery rockets is what I was talking about.
01:42:50.000You know, these anti-personnel weapons that spray bomblets have been found in many areas of southern Lebanon.
01:42:57.000Of course, there's the USS Liberty, where they tried to bring us into the attack, to attack Egypt.
01:43:05.000You know, just so many instances where Israel, well, we're not quite, we're not treating them like quite as an ally because they're arming and they're helping arm our enemies.
01:43:19.000Well, I think that they're just another arm of this globalist empire.
01:43:23.000I mean, seriously, I mean, they're our stronghold in the Middle East, even though we now have Afghanistan and Iraq, we set up Israel, you know, I mean, this was set up by European powers and, you know, we can all debate Hey, Then again, people within our own government are constantly going against U.S.
01:43:50.000interests. They're not foreign by the people, man.
01:44:02.000Um, the thing I was thinking about the last couple days, and it kind of makes me laugh, uh, shock jock, uh, radio, uh, Don Imus lost his job.
01:44:12.000You know, and, and this guy, you know, makes an open call, you know, uh, you know, for the death of, uh, Mark Dice.
01:44:19.000Oh, well, that's, uh, that's not, uh, Don Imus.
01:44:47.000Yeah, well, we reported on it yesterday, and we actually gave out the number where you could call Roberts, who is the president of the network.
01:45:04.000You know, they don't want this to get national media attention.
01:45:06.000And the media doesn't really want to give it national attention because, as far as I know, this is the first time that a radio show host has called for the death of an American citizen and said he would pay for the bullet.
01:45:32.000Listen, at 12 o'clock today I just happened to be going to the store and I heard, like a helicopter, we've been having a lot of helicopter activity in this area.
01:45:41.000So I look up and I see five military helicopters, three troop transports, and two Apaches heading towards Fort Myers Beach.
01:45:51.000So I call up the local Well, you never know what kind of drills they're running.
01:46:21.000Every time I hear somebody go, well that's black helicopter stuff, I can't help but snicker and think to myself, well does that mean you're copping to it's true?
01:46:28.000I mean, we had a movie, a Hollywood movie called Black Hawk Down.
01:46:56.000It's so that you can't point out a unit and say, alright, that's the unit from the U.S. Army or the U.S. Marines or the U.S. National Guard.
01:47:05.000You don't know what, you know, unit they're from.
01:47:07.000I mean, when I saw that in Road to Tyranny for the first time, I believe I saw it around 2002, maybe early 2003, and I saw that they were working with, I think it was Croatian soldiers or Serbian soldiers, I'm not sure, but they were taking over a little public library and everybody had black masks on and they're putting off flash bangers and I'm thinking to myself, why are they doing this?
01:47:30.000It's so when they go and round you up, if you happen to survive or you want a redress of grievances, you've got no one to put those grievances against.
01:47:59.000I was listening to you and Mr. Jones speaking, and I'm wondering, as American citizens, since each state is a sovereign state in its own right and has its own constitution, why can't we, as the people of each state, charge our federal government with treason to our federal constitution?
01:48:32.000Because as soon as you organize like that and you do pose a real threat, it makes it awful easy for COINTELPRO to come in.
01:48:38.000Now, I'm not saying that means let's not organize, let's not push forward.
01:48:41.000I'm just pointing out as soon as you centralize all the Patriot movement, it's going to be a lot easier for them to stick in.
01:48:48.000Someone who's going to seem legitimate at first, just like in the 9-11 Truth Movement, they're going to come on, they're going to say all the right things.
01:48:54.000And then just like in the 9-11 Truth Movement, Instead of saying things like, uh, space beams or no planes hit the towers, they're gonna say, we need to violently overthrow our leaders.
01:49:03.000It's gonna turn from a peaceful initiative where we put out a resolution for secession, uh, just like these people in Oklahoma did, to people calling for the hanging and murders of public officials.
01:49:14.000Well, I don't think, I don't think we're quite there yet, um, really.
01:49:17.000I mean, but, but what I'm thinking, you know, uh, I, you know, my whole thing is our whole, and I, I agree with Alex Jones on this, 1776 is the answer to, like, the Patriot Act and all these bad laws.
01:49:32.000What we need to do is prosecute and convict the federal criminals that have violated and voided the Constitution of this once great nation, and the charge should simply be high treason and violations of the oath of office, counterfeiting of currency from 1913 to present, violations of the U.S. Constitution, you know, for instance, the Bill of Rights Article I through X, and there's too many others.
01:49:54.000you know we don't have a lot of time well again with you out right now I see an opportunity with tennis to finish is 35 articles of impeachment I mean you just talked about the federal reserve banking system surely we can't get rid of the Bush administration for that I do see the problem with that ultimately you know it is the banking system that enslaves us and that's why I was such a huge fan and still am of Ron Paul a lot of people couldn't get behind it because he wasn't pro 9/11 truth movement or didn't say what everybody wanna say he was going after the root of the problem
01:50:23.000It's going after the money masters, you know?
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01:55:47.000The number to call is 866 7 6 2 9 2 3 8. That's 8 6 6 7 6 2 9 2 3 8. All right, let's jump through a couple callers before we have the big chemtrail discussion.
01:56:23.000I'm glad to hear that you and I've got to commend you and Alex Jones for putting this out over the internet.
01:56:29.000What I wanted to tell you was that movie Jericho in 24, I used to watch it all the time.
01:56:35.000And I believed in what they had on there.
01:56:37.000It was showing what the government can do.
01:56:40.000Now, What I want to share with you is here in North Carolina, they got this new system now where when you go to go get your driver's license or your ID card, that you have to prove, give them your marriage license, your birth certificate, your social security card, and proof of residency.
01:56:57.000And isn't that, what's that, the seven points that they want from you?
01:57:00.000Yes. See, I have that problem in New York too sometimes, and luckily I know a couple people at the DMV.
01:57:07.000I feel like if I already have a license, The fact that I'm walking in there with a New York State license should be enough.
01:57:13.000They shouldn't need seven more points.
01:57:15.000But it's this Total Surveillance Society.
01:57:16.000For instance, I went to Bank of America last week.
01:57:22.000Okay? From Bank of America to Bank of America, I walk into Bank of America, I give them my ID card, my New York State driver's license, and they ask me if I have a second form of identification.
01:57:33.000And I say, sure, you know, I've got my medical card here, I've got my AFTF card here, No, no, no.
01:57:39.000We need a credit card or we need a bank card.
01:57:42.000And I'm like, well, I don't subscribe to those programs, you know?
01:57:44.000I don't need a bank taking care of my money and I don't need to be in credit debt.
01:57:48.000And they're like, well, we can't do anything for you.
02:00:09.000I'm going to be sitting in the rest of the week.
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02:00:25.000Right now I'm pleased to announce that we have Rosalind Peterson of CaliforniaSkyWatch.com and she's here to talk about weather modification and what's going on in the skies.
02:00:42.000So why don't you tell us how you got involved in all this and why you started California Skywatch?
02:00:48.000Well, starting in 2002, it came to my attention that our skies were no longer deep blue.
02:00:57.000They were filled with persistent jet contrails and jets flying in every direction, leaving these great huge plumes.
02:01:05.000And so in 2002, I knew from just looking at these planes and photographing them and filming them that this was not correct.
02:01:15.000This was not how our skies should look.
02:01:18.000And so when I saw the crosshatches, the loops, the Xs when they looped the loop, it just brought me to the conclusion that this was not right.
02:01:30.000And so then I have dedicated Well, you know, I'm not that, you know, in the light about what Chemtrails or Comtrails, you know, you're calling them Comtrails.
02:02:38.000There has been a media blackout because when I first started my research, I checked the United States Air Force website almost immediately to find out what was going on.
02:02:51.000And a lot of people had talked about chemtrails.
02:02:54.000It was kind of on the web, and I decided that I'd go see what they had to say.
02:02:57.000And right away, I realized that their website carried a notation that the word chemtrail was a hoax.
02:03:54.000And so therefore, they would say, well, the word chemtrail is a hoax.
02:03:58.000And then that was the end of the discussion.
02:04:02.000So I have found that by not using the word chemtrail, by talking about the documents, by talking about the research, And the studies and different things that I can document, that the credibility goes up when you start talking about what's going on with these persistent jet contrails.
02:04:22.000Well, we're going to come back after this and we're going to find out what you found out.
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02:08:19.000We're talking to Rosalind Peterson of CaliforniaSkyWatch.com, and she was telling us how she was stonewalled almost at every turn when she tried to find out what was going on in the skies.
02:08:30.000And I'm guessing this is when you started to collect your own data.
02:08:34.000This is when I started to go and really do some heavy-duty research and try and find out what was going on, duck, and then take pictures, videotapes of what was going on in the skies with a group of other people who were also interested, and also trying to figure out why everyone was stonewalled on this subject and just told that it was normal.
02:09:00.000I can tell you from long history here in Mendocino County that very few commercial airlines fly over Mendocino County.
02:09:08.000And according to FAA records of the flights, they fly straight lines and they only go across really one segment of the county.
02:09:17.000And there's very few flights that go into San Francisco Airport or San Jose or Oakland Airports that fly over this area.
02:09:26.000But the jets that leave the persistent contrails fly in every direction, stop and go, plumes, circling.
02:09:36.000Sometimes they look like two or three at a time doing a racetrack around our county.
02:09:41.000You can watch them with binoculars and sometimes they don't even fly out of sight.
02:09:46.000They just play tag with on and off, turning the contrails on and off.
02:10:53.000Air Force flies over and drops aluminum-coated fiberglass, which is chaff, over us, which falls to the ground as particulate matter and can have health effects.
02:11:04.000It's been noted, although the Air Force doesn't like to give out their reports, But it has been noted that there's health effects from the particulates.
02:11:23.000So we do know that the jets are used in different programs.
02:11:29.000I cannot tell you from all of my research exactly what the jets are releasing to leave these persistent contrails, but Patrick Minnis of NASA ... has now admitted that many of these contrails, one contrail, can expand over 4,000 square kilometers and last for more than 20 hours.
02:11:52.000This was unheard of before about 1988, thereabout, when people first started noticing them, especially here in Northern California.
02:12:07.000Professor Gregory Benford on the program with Paul Moyer in Burbank, California, KNBC News program, which anyone can watch on YouTube, had stated that it was kind of interesting that when Benford was asked about this issue, he said, well, a little bit of barium, a little bit of aluminum, and we can make fluffy white clouds, and we can put them where we want to do what we want.
02:12:57.000I mean, these are heavy metals that we're more than likely breathing in as this dissipates and falls to the ground.
02:13:03.000And it doesn't shock me that they cover such a wide area.
02:13:08.000I'll literally be outside at around 10 or 11 in the morning out in New York, and you'll see them start their campaign, and then by sundown, you know, around 5, 530, the entire, you know, sky is in a haze, and we had blue skies in the morning.
02:13:23.000I've got to wonder why they're doing this, and why they've seemed to up the program.
02:13:28.000I mean, you used to see it Now and then.
02:13:31.000And people would say, oh, you're kooky.
02:14:11.000Anything? No, because they refer to it as a chemtrail hoax, and as long as the word chemtrail is attached, they don't want to touch the issue.
02:14:21.000And that's why I've stopped using the word, because they politically don't want to touch something that the Air Force calls a hoax.
02:14:28.000That NASA and NOAA call a hoax and part of a conspiracy theory, so thus they don't want to touch it.
02:14:34.000But we're making inroads because we're beginning to show them the state of California water test results from all 58 counties, a CD held by the California State Department of Health, which shows spiking in all over the state of California.
02:14:51.000Sometimes way above state and federal standards, all in the same time of aluminum, barium, manganese, some of these heavy metals.
02:15:02.000And we're finding that this exposure is quite broad all over California.
02:15:10.000And a friend of mine has done extensive research from 1998 in Arizona, Bridget Conroy has also been finding huge spikes in Arizona as well.
02:15:22.000So we're looking at these water test data and samples from, in other words, not even our own particular data where we went out and took the test ourselves, but from the state of California and the Arizona, and we find that they're confirming What we've been knowing for a long time is that there's something going on and we're being exposed to it.
02:15:45.000But you see, it's not only the exposure in our drinking water system, it's the exposure to the animals, to the trees, to crops, to all kinds of...
02:15:57.000The pH in rainwater is beginning to get more acidic, so we're seeing a wide range of things that are happening to the environment.
02:16:05.000And my concern about persistent jet contrails Specifically, is that when they cover us over in white haze or man-made clouds.
02:16:14.000According to NASA, persistent jet contrails make man-made clouds that exacerbate global warming.
02:16:22.000That these clouds change our climate and can impact negatively natural resources.
02:16:28.000And when you start to take away direct sunlight, you start to reduce photosynthesis, which is required for all living things to grow.
02:16:37.000And since my background is agriculture, I've been taking a look at trees and crops, and without direct sunlight, crop production is going to drop severely.
02:16:49.000So you think this is maybe even kind of a terraforming program for the earth?
02:16:53.000Basically stopping our crops, stopping our healthy growth, stopping plants from growing in a certain manner, really just changing the way that everything's produced in this country?
02:17:04.000It's going to do that, and when you talk about the jet contrails putting this man-made cloud curver over us, stopping direct sunlight from reaching the Earth, you not only that, you have an impact from increased molds, mildew, health effects like rickets are increasing across the United States in the last few years, and that's lack of vitamin D, and these children are getting brittle bones.
02:17:31.000Not seen since children were forced to work in the coal mines in the early part of our history.
02:17:39.000So it's beginning to be of great concern, but that means that if children are seeing rickets, that means other animals and plant life are going to be affected as well.
02:17:48.000So the implication of keeping us in this man-made cloud cover is tremendous.
02:17:54.000And I see them pushing this as saving us from global warming.
02:17:58.000You know, eventually I think they're going to have to say something about this program and they're going to say, well, you know, we had to put this program out there.
02:18:05.000It'd be just so hot and global warming would have done this to us.
02:18:48.000But what happens is that doesn't explain because when you take away direct sunlight by putting up chemicals, And you reduce the amount of direct sunlight hitting the Earth, you see NASA goes right back and says, well, according to their studies, they're trapping warmth in the atmosphere and exacerbating global warming.
02:19:08.000So if they're doing this for us, what does this mean?
02:19:13.000I don't think anybody's doing anything for us, because I think that they're experimenting at our expense, is what I think.
02:19:28.000We have Rosalyn Peterson of CaliforniaSkyWatch.com.
02:19:31.000We have Rosalyn Peterson of California.
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02:24:40.000See what you have to ask Rosalind Peterson of California Skywatch But before that I want to play this NBC news clip one of the few mainstream News clip to actually report on the subject.
02:24:51.000So let's let's bring it up Mountains has a real mystery on its hands the official explanation here Is that jet contrails are causing strange lines in the sky and that it's pollen making people sick on the ground But others are convinced it is something else and they ask is the government experimenting with our weather There was a huge dust cloud.
02:25:15.000Longtime Cedar Glen resident Gretchen Sherman says she has never seen anything like it.
02:25:21.000Oh, it covered the entire Cedar Glen area.
02:25:24.000A cloud of dust leaving a sticky yellow slime all over her car.
02:25:28.000It happened again last February, and calls began pouring into the local Alpenhorn newspaper.
02:25:33.000And they had a tremendous upsurge of children that were not going to school at that time.
02:25:39.000Pharmacist Ed Burrows says it is the most mysterious illness he's seen in 22 years on the mountain.
02:25:44.000A lot of eye infection problems, upper respiratory problems, nosebleeds.
02:25:49.000The nearby March Air Force Base say it didn't come from them.
02:25:55.000The Department of Health found a yellowish tint on a tissue submitted for testing.
02:25:59.000But, quote, there was no sign of any biological form, such as cedar pollen, and the test was ruled inconclusive.
02:26:06.000And it wasn't long before things ballooned into a sky-high mystery.
02:26:09.000The story is not just here in Crestline in the alleged yellow cloud.
02:26:13.000People say the government is up there in airplanes spraying all kinds of chemicals to change or manipulate the weather, leaving what you see there, and they call that a chemtrail.
02:26:22.000So, what I look at there, and I think are contrails, You're telling me, or chemtrails?
02:26:26.000Yes, that a contrail would be dissipated by now.
02:26:30.000Chemtrails. On the internet, they are cited as proof of the government creating clouds to combat global warming.
02:26:36.000In response, the Air Force says that, quote, there is no such thing as a chemtrail.
02:26:41.000The actual contrails are a safe and natural phenomenon.
02:26:44.000and that people are seeing more contrails simply because there are more jets forming large clouds depending on weather conditions as in this video of alleged chemtrails shot I think these are contrails.
02:27:21.000Fighting global warming by putting a chemical dust in the atmosphere and reflecting harmful radiation back into space.
02:27:27.000You could use barium oxide, for example, which makes big fluffy clouds.
02:27:32.000You could use tiny little bits of aluminum, which is benign in the environment, and essentially manage the climate.
02:27:38.000And what I found was Unusual spiking since the early 1990s in barium, aluminum.
02:27:45.000But Roslyn Peterson of California Skywatch says Health Department records show a sharp increase in both chemicals in the water supply of Northern California, dating from the time the huge contrails first appeared over her home in Mendocino County.
02:28:00.000What's the significance of the barium and the aluminum?
02:28:02.000I went and got all the tests, and all these things in the same test would be up.
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02:33:19.000And these things are all over the place.
02:33:21.000I mean, they're literally being put up in the background.
02:33:23.000There's one scene where the animals are shot all the way up in the air and you can see the chemtrails behind them.
02:33:29.000It really feels like we're being prepped for something bigger.
02:33:33.000I'm just wondering, what can the average person do, Rosalind, to get this information out, to try to get the truth about what these things are?
02:33:42.000Well, first of all, it comes down to a bit of education and looking at some of the documents that are online, and there are a lot of them, and beginning to bring these issues about their concerns to their elected officials.
02:33:57.000And I think that the more pressure we put on our elected officials, the more we go to meetings, the more we look at our water test results in different states and begin to complain about them being way over state and federal standards.
02:34:10.000I think that the more we take the tests and I think that local action is absolutely necessary at the ground level to get the attention.
02:34:19.000And we have to get the media to take a look and not just be bulldozed over by the Air Force who says it's a hoax, but to really get them to do some independent research and really look up.
02:34:48.000I just want to bring up one real obvious point, being a professional pilot.
02:34:53.000There's been some government spew out about the fact that they even added something to the fuel that would cause it to burn more efficiently, etc., and it was part of the cause of leaving these trails.
02:35:04.000Well, there's a very obvious thing in aviation That everybody seems to miss on this point.
02:35:09.000And that's that aviation does not want clouded skies.
02:35:13.000The clearer the skies are, the better it is for aviation.
02:35:16.000When I put this stuff up there, it's actually endangering the safety of aviation.
02:35:21.000And I'll let it go from there and talk at you later.
02:35:33.000And I also think that not only does it cut down on visibility, but when I flew back last year to the United Nations to speak there on the subject as an invited guest for the Climate Change Conference, what I found was, going over, that we couldn't see the ground.
02:35:53.000It was always covered with white haze.
02:36:32.000Plus the fact that we're getting all these particulates and different things going on.
02:36:38.000I also wish to state that there has been some question about something being put into the jet fuel itself, but aluminum in the fuel could wreck a jet engine.
02:36:51.000I don't believe that they're actually putting it in the jet fuel itself, and I've never thought that.
02:36:57.000I think that they could have additives afterwards.
02:37:02.000Or, there is what they call one of these MASF, M-A-S-F, and the U.S. Air Force C-130 Modular Aerial Spray System.
02:39:00.000It's hard to pick a topic, but I guess I have to.
02:39:03.000I've spent the last four years researching the effects of heavy metals when we get them into our bodies and especially into, like, our animals.
02:39:12.000And I met a gentleman a few years back.
02:39:17.000And he's passed away now from a brain tumor.
02:39:20.000But what he discovered was that with the BSE mad cow disease and chronic wasting diseases, these animals have been exposed to these metals.
02:40:23.000Yeah, and the more I look into viruses, I realize that the effect of proteins by metals is what's causing them to misfold.
02:40:34.000And when certain metals attach to these proteins, it's a reversible folding.
02:40:39.000But when these metals like barium and lead and uranium, like depleted uranium, something I'm heavily into, are involved, causing proteins that attach to them to become unable to reverse and fall off of them.
02:40:53.000And so I do wonder if the spraying of these chemicals, I mean, I know it's probably involved with HAARP, But I see them, I see these same metal particles being used by the vaccine companies.
02:41:14.000Gardasil, for example, has huge amounts of aluminum in it.
02:41:18.000The hepatitis B has mercury, I'm told, in it.
02:41:21.000And we're seeing how in Alberta here, where I'm from, our government just announced that they're going to pay for the Gardasil vaccine.
02:41:30.000They're injecting this aluminum into your body and they say, oh yeah, by the way, we're going to give it at the same time as the hepatitis shot, which is a mercury shot.
02:41:37.000Well, they always say that these are negligible amounts, but obviously it's poison.
02:41:43.000They always say, you know, it's for your own good, it's negligible, it's not going to have an effect, but we all know that heavy metals aren't good for the body.
02:41:51.000And you do have a section on your website about HAARP.
02:41:54.000For those who don't know what HAARP is, why don't you give a little overview, Rosalyn?
02:41:59.000HAARP is located in Alaska, and it's an Air Force Navy project originally.
02:42:07.000The Navy is heavily involved in this program, and what it does is it's involved with a group of what they call superheaters, and they can heat the atmosphere above us to extremely high temperatures.
02:42:21.000And they use it as an experimental project.
02:42:25.000There is some evidence that they can use it for weather modification as well.
02:42:31.000My concern is that they're using it to do atmospheric experiments, and some of them NASA is doing at this time, and what they do is they send these canisters loaded with aluminum and barium, strontium,
02:42:49.000lithium, SF6, sulfur, I'm sorry, Sulfur fluoride, there's a whole group of chemicals that are highly toxic and what they do is they send them up in these canisters either on the space shuttle or they send them up on rockets.
02:43:07.000And when they get these canisters up at certain locations in the ionosphere or at different levels in the atmosphere, they superheat them.
02:43:15.000And sometimes they're using the HAARP methodology to actually heat these containers.
02:43:22.000The U.S. Air Force is quite specific and NASA is quite specific in some of their descriptions.
02:43:28.000But also, these chemical reactions can have harmful effects on our ionosphere above us and on the cocoon that protects us from UV radiation and other things.
02:43:41.000And, I believe from the testing results I've seen in California and water test results, that some of these chemicals are coming down and landing in our drinking water supplies.
02:43:51.000So, if they're finding them in California drinking water supply tests, that means that they're getting into lakes, rivers, streams, wells, everywhere.
02:44:01.000And when you see these huge spikes all across California and in other states, you begin to understand the implication that the chemicals that are going up are coming down and they're having human health effects.
02:44:14.000And see, one issue that was just brought up was that If you filter your drinking water so heavily, you can take out beneficial nutrients.
02:44:25.000And this is another cause for concern is if you purify the water too much.
02:44:31.000However, on the other hand, I don't think that some water treatment systems will take out these harmful chemicals.
02:44:39.000And in addition, many water sources that where the water goes to agriculture are not treated at all.
02:44:46.000They go in as raw water from lakes, rivers, streams, and they go onto agricultural land.
02:44:53.000So what you're seeing is that plants, trees, animals, birds, your produce are all going to pick these up because there's no way to protect yourself from these air-based chemicals.
02:45:15.000I just noticed this article on the Prison Planet Forum actually yesterday and it's basically an admission by the Russian Air Force that they're seeding clouds here.
02:45:26.000Well that's the one, hold on, let me read, let me go over that article.
02:45:30.000Basically what happened is a bag of cement got loose in the bag while they were seeding the clouds and it crushed the roof of some guy's home.
02:45:38.000So they had to admit that they were actually seeding clouds out in Russia, correct?
02:45:58.000Sure, but Alex has had Dennis Cuddy on the program a couple years ago, and he was one of the fathers of weather warfare, and he was talking about this type of thing that they were using in Vietnam to create You know, rain in dense areas where the Vietnamese were, you know, using it as a warfare tool.
02:46:15.000So, yeah, I mean, I think that there is absolutely no doubt that there is documented cases of weather modification.
02:46:23.000Oh, U.S. history is loaded with weather modification programs and experiments going back to the 1940s.
02:46:30.000And I think by the time of the Vietnam War, they had perfected weather modification and used it over the Ho Chi Minh Trail for many years successfully in Vietnam.
02:46:42.000And then since that time, there is no doubt that they've had hurricane control programs.
02:46:48.000If you type in history of weather modification, you will just come up with an enormous amount of programs, some successful, some highly unsuccessful.
02:47:00.000And even NASA admits today, I know admits, that there's over 50 to 100 weather modification programs ongoing around the world with other countries like China experimenting.
02:47:12.000So we know that weather modification is working, even though there's claims that it doesn't, because just in 19...
02:47:23.000I'm sorry, in 2005, Wyoming put more snow In the Wyoming mountains than ever before in recorded history from their weather modification program.
02:47:36.000And they did that in order to give Southern California more water.
02:47:41.000But it backfired and the snow melted too fast and they got some flooding.
02:47:47.000But that program subsequently, since that time every year, has put surrounding counties in Wyoming in drought conditions.
02:47:54.000And has put Colorado, I believe, due to the size of the number of square miles involved in the program, into drought conditions.
02:48:03.000So what happens is that, for example, this year, according to NOAA's programs, I think I sent you a list of those, but there was one that was modifying 184,000 square miles.
02:48:18.000Well, if you put water or snow in one location, you're going to subtract it from where it would go normally, disrupting agricultural microclimates, putting some parts of the country, like Oklahoma, in drought, and then you could flood out other areas that weren't supposed to get so much rain.
02:48:40.000No one, with all these weather problems ongoing across the United States, is taking a look at if they're still conducting their weather modification programs while people are engaged in fighting off too much rain.
02:48:58.000So modifying the weather can have very adverse effects, and no one is looking.
02:49:05.000See, right now, I can pay someone, a weather modification company, to go and say, I want to modify the weather over New York City, for example.
02:49:16.000And I can hire a company and they'll go in and they'll do what I want.
02:50:32.000We'll be back after this with your calls.
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02:55:06.000you give me a list of just the names of the Of the best experts on it, and also go through the compounds that are being sprayed.
02:55:22.000And I just want to also say that when you contacted your senator and you put that request for information, that is essentially the problem, is that we're allowing ourselves to be lied to.
02:55:51.000some of the other people that have been on this show.
02:55:54.000All right, let's ask her, Rosalyn, who do you think the best authors are on this subject?
02:55:58.000Well, there's a number of them that have written books on the subject.
02:56:03.000And if you just Google a link for books on the subject, they will come right up for you.
02:56:10.000What I would say is some good websites to go look at are ArizonaSkyWatch.com.
02:56:17.000Bridget Conroy has been researching this since 1999, and she's especially interested in the health effects for families and children, and what's going on with our skies, and is a dedicated researcher on this subject, and she would be very helpful.
02:56:34.000My website contains a lot of information.
02:56:37.000There's a lot of books on weather warfare that talk about, in other words, different types of programs.
02:56:45.000But I would say your government documents are a good place to start because there's so much information online.
02:56:58.000It's not up yet, but it's going to be called the Agricultural Defense Coalition.
02:57:03.000And this is going to contain approximately 8,000 documents.
02:57:09.000All my database is right now being put on this website, and I'm hoping to have it up before the end of the month for sure.
02:57:17.000And so, it's a monumental project to put everything I have, but there's a lot of documents right now on California Skywatch and on ArizonaSkywatch.com.
02:57:29.000So I encourage you all to do the research and check in and look at these websites from the government, NOAA, NASA.
02:57:38.000Lots of programs there that they talk about and this would be a good research item.
02:57:45.000And then Rosalind was also asking for the compounds that are in this stuff.
02:57:50.000Can you give a short list of what's in these things?
02:57:54.000Okay, I can't guarantee what's in any persistent JetCon trail at any time, because I think that they're running various programs.
02:58:02.000So, I know that aluminum-coated fiberglass shaft is used by the Air Force.
02:58:08.000I know that there's a variety of weather modification chemicals that they're using in atmospheric programs.
02:58:17.000I can tell you that the canisters that are sent up by NASA ... contain barium, aluminum, strontium, manganese, magnesium, calcium, lithium...
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