On this episode of the Alex Jones Show, we have Michael Markovich on the show to talk about his recent conviction for using his First Amendment right to preach on a sidewalk near the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia, PA.
00:00:58.000And we also had Jonathan of We Are Change Colorado, who posted a lot of great videos about the black helicopter ops.
00:01:06.000The Urban Warfare drills that are going on in Colorado.
00:01:10.000And right now we have Michael Markovich, I hope I'm pronouncing his last name correctly, who was arrested for using his First Amendment outside of Philadelphia, right by the Liberty Bell, and recently convicted of preaching on a sidewalk near the Liberty Bell.
00:01:34.000A breakdown for the listeners, what you were doing when you were initially arrested and how this process took place.
00:01:41.000Well, I travel to a lot of public venues.
00:01:44.000I've been on Alex's program before and we talked about the RNC Convention in New York City.
00:01:50.000Everyone come down, put down on Pier 57 with the free speech areas that are being established more and more.
00:01:58.000And here at the Liberty Bell Center in Philadelphia, at Independence Hall, they've established what they call a free speech area, or a free speech zone, in which you also need to get a permit to even engage in activities there.
00:02:12.000And I was on the public sidewalk which aligns 6th Street in Philadelphia.
00:02:17.000Now they built a new center, it's called the Liberty Bell Center, and that's alongside the sidewalk.
00:02:21.000And I was standing on that sidewalk speaking to people waiting in line about the important message that's written right on the Liberty Bell, which is from the Book of Leviticus, which is proclaim liberty throughout the land and all the inhabitants thereof.
00:02:35.000So as I was speaking to Passerby about abortion in our country and how it's very grievous that this is continuing and about everyone's need to come to know God through Jesus Christ, I'm an evangelist, that's what I do.
00:02:48.000I go out to the public square and I declare this message of repentance and the need for a Savior.
00:02:53.000And as I was standing on that sidewalk outside the Liberty Bell Center, I was told to go over there and the ranger motioned where I was to go, which was on the other side of the building.
00:03:05.000Um, away from the people I was trying to reach.
00:03:41.000I tried to reason with these park rangers, asking them to please speak with our legal counsel before they start instituting this.
00:03:49.000In fact, the chief ranger that oversees the area down there said that that was a new policy that was just rolled out, and it had not made it to the rangers in the field yet.
00:03:58.000This is what had been testified to during the criminal trial.
00:04:02.000But I had been charged first with violating the terms and conditions of a permit.
00:04:06.000Now, this was a permit I never accepted.
00:04:09.000And also, and that was for not going to the free speech zone.
00:04:13.000The second charge I got in the mail six months later via certified mail.
00:04:17.000And this was a violation of the Code of Federal Regulations, like the permitting issue.
00:04:26.000But this one cited that I was interfering with agency functions by standing there and speaking to the people on messages on various topics.
00:04:36.000So that's what happened, and ultimately I was put on trial and convicted on those two counts.
00:04:42.000Well, I want to get into the trial, I want to get into the conviction on the other side.
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00:08:36.000And we're talking to Michael Markovich, a preacher who was arrested for spreading the word on the sidewalk, folks, and then, I guess, recently convicted by trial.
00:08:47.000I'm wondering, Michael, when they arrested you, did they just give you a ticket?
00:08:51.000Did they bring you down to the station?
00:08:54.000And then, tell me what happened at the trial.
00:08:57.000Well, first, to your first question, what happened is that as I was speaking, I had been approached one final time by the supervising ranger, Saperstein, supervising ranger Saperstein, who came and several other rangers, and they used pain compliance where they bent my hand behind my back and forcibly made me go into the Liberty Bell Center into a room.
00:09:24.000In which I had been questioned and then cited and released.
00:09:30.000And after that, the citation, the second citation, which is also a federal violation, came in the mail, certified mail, six months later.
00:09:40.000And in relationship to the trial itself, that was a two-day trial in which the prosecution put their case on, of course, and then we put our case on.
00:09:51.000And ultimately, I had been found Guilty of violating the terms and conditions of a permit, and secondly for interfering with agency functions by just simply standing on the sidewalk and speaking with people.
00:10:05.000So it definitely is very revealing as to where our country is headed in, or it has been headed in this direction for a very long time now, and it's just getting worse.
00:10:15.000And this free speech zone establishment, which is becoming more commonplace at major events, This is now being instituted here at the Liberty Bell Center and Independent Hall on the public sidewalks.
00:10:26.000Yeah, it seems like it doesn't even have to be at a main event like the RNC, like the DNC.
00:10:34.000And they're trying to put these into squelch-free speech even further.
00:10:38.000They're arresting people, quote-unquote, for peddling.
00:10:40.000Uh, when they're giving away DVDs at this point.
00:10:43.000I mean, even at a bank, I get the runaround.
00:10:46.000It's a total surveillance society, police state, where they want all these forms of identification, they want all these regulations, so that if they don't agree with what you're saying, you won't be able to say it at all.
00:10:56.000And that's what this country has really become.
00:10:58.000Anything that is labeled, quote-unquote, a free speech zone is bad news, because the free speech zone is this country.
00:11:06.000It's any public property that is in the United States of America, in my opinion.
00:11:12.000And what was very shocking is what Assistant U.S.
00:11:15.000Attorney Richard Goldberg was arguing.
00:11:17.000He was stating that our defense, and that was a part of our defense, that it was propaganda.
00:11:23.000And that I was a clear and present danger.
00:11:26.000To people being on that public sidewalk.
00:11:29.000In the name of safety, they're starting to shut people down from being able to speak on the public sidewalks about issues that are important to them, and it's happening more and more often.
00:11:38.000In fact, what happened is that this U.S.
00:11:40.000attorney, Richard Goldberg, asked the judge, Judge Rapoport, who heard this case, to send a message not only to me, but to those in the courtroom and anyone else who would dare stand on public property and share their beliefs without government permission.
00:11:59.000Much like the government has, quote-unquote, become God.
00:12:02.000And we know that a lot of these preachers have really sold their flocks down the river by taking government funding and telling them that when the government comes in, listen to them, go to the camps, it's just unbelievable how far this has gone.
00:12:20.000And, you know, they're trying to send this message, and I think that they are This is getting some attention because of the fund and because I was put on a year probation.
00:12:34.000and uh... register and not only get permission uh... for you know being able to exercise my rights in public but anywhere i go i need to now get permission from the u.s.
00:12:45.000probation office and they could deny me for whatever reason they so desire if i need to go in uh... to a ministry project in another state i have to get permission from the u.s.
00:12:55.000probation office so this is really a shocking decision And I think that it should awaken some people to voice some opposition and to stand up for what is right.
00:13:05.000Where can people find your information?
00:13:30.000If they want to see it on YouTube, they can just go to YouTube and use the keyword, Liberty Bell Center, and it's the very first video.
00:13:38.000And in that video footage, you will see this supervising ranger approach me a couple of times and instruct me to go to this free speech area.
00:13:48.000And I had declined that, as well as the verbal permit that was issued.
00:13:53.000Now, nowhere in what they call the compendium or in the Code of Federal Regulations do we see them being able to issue verbal permits.
00:14:13.000And we're working on an appeal right now.
00:14:16.000Our legal counsel, our attorney, Scott Shields, is getting ready to file that appeal.
00:14:22.000It's our hope that this gets shut down, because if they shut down the public sidewalks to the free expression of ideas at the Liberty Bell Center and at Independence Hall in the birthplace of American freedom, then our nation, as it is right now, is in trouble.
00:14:40.000And that's why it's so important for people to arm themselves with cameras, because even if you do go down in a courtroom, at least in the court of public opinion, we have a chance.
00:14:52.000We can show how corrupt the system is and shed light on that, and show how corrupt it is all around.
00:14:57.000It's not just the police, but it's the judge.
00:15:00.000It's the court system that would rule in favor Of this, you know, police state measure.
00:15:12.000What's the next step for Repent America?
00:15:16.000Well right now we're really concentrating on this particular situation because of what it all entails and trying to get this overturned and ensuring that people Not only myself, but people who disagree with our message.
00:15:28.000And we do believe Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no man comes to the Father but by Him.
00:15:34.000But we know that people are going to disagree with that.
00:15:36.000But that's why the public street should be open up to discussion and open up to the free expression of ideas, not shut down by government because they're afraid of safety issues, or they're using this in the name of safety, but they want to silence us.
00:15:49.000And we're going to be headed to a couple of events coming up.
00:15:55.000for the 4th of July and at some other events.
00:15:58.000But being out there on a regular basis, this is becoming very much commonplace.
00:16:03.000The free speech zone establishments that are at these major events, that are not only at major events, as you said, but they're on college campuses.
00:16:10.000They're becoming now just a regular part of a city where someone is told you have to go over there if you want to express your views.
00:16:18.000And what's going to stop them from just shutting it all down completely without that permit and then denial of those permits?
00:16:26.000It's very troublesome in this case, as I said, very revealing as to the direction our country continues to head in.
00:16:35.000I mean, the way I've been seeing it is, you know, you're gonna have more police on the streets, you're seeing a merger of the military and the police, especially in these drills that are going on in Denver.
00:16:46.000I think we're seeing even more sophisticated types of control where You know, organizations like Recreate 68 get found out, you know, that they're bad, that they're trying to incite violence at the DNC, that they're telling people to bring red paint and throw it on others, to bring shields, to wear armor, and of course this is the only group that actually gets the quote-unquote permit to protest, and then they're exposed, and all they do is they change their name, and it's basically the same members, and they're the only ones that get the permit.
00:17:15.000It seems like they're setting up the people that don't know for violence in order to bring in You know, the military and police, to put the squelch on freedom of speech yet again, to make it seem like the country wants Barack Obama.
00:17:33.000They're using fear, these fear tactics, and telling the people, well, you know, we can't have that because there'd be riots, there'd be this and there'd be that.
00:17:40.000In the name of safety, we're telling people they need to stay over there, behind that building, behind that tree over there, down the street.
00:17:50.000It's so subjective, and these directives are becoming more and more evident through what's happening to a lot of different people that are out there at these events.
00:18:01.000Now, we're headed out to the DNC Convention as well as the RNC Convention, and we have reason to believe that they're going to do as they did in New York City and up in Massachusetts and Boston.
00:18:15.000When they had the cages established, these cages, and I'm saying cages because they're fences that basically you're put into, and you could express yourself in those cages, particularly at the DNC convention where that happened, but then at the RNC convention they put people down in an abandoned warehouse on Pier 57,
00:18:36.000In caged-in areas, and when I was escorted in there after having been arrested on a public sidewalk there, because I wouldn't go to the sight and sound or the free speech area that they had established, I was sitting in a cage and looking at all these people of different types of political positions and ideas, and they were all criminalized because they were out there exercising their right to free speech, and it's very disturbing.
00:19:04.000It's just amazing where this country has gone.
00:19:06.000It truly has become land of the coward, home of the slave.
00:19:10.000And when they try to tell you that a free speech zone is a cage, think about it.
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00:28:23.000Because you have a bunch of government contracts and, you know, you have a family-owned business called Controlled Demolition Incorporated that cleaned up the World Trade Center.
00:28:54.000Well, you know, we all know that the left and the right is all fake and everything else.
00:28:57.000But my question is, how does any thinking person, after 2006, when the United States of America people came out in record numbers and voted against Bush by putting the Democrats in the Congress and the Senate, and in the last two years, they've done absolutely nothing.
00:29:12.000In fact, they just gave him a trillion dollars today or something like that for the war.
00:29:16.000How can any thinking person have any faith in that?
00:29:20.000With him and others, I've noticed, when you are in these administrations, like Paul Craig Roberts was, like Ray McGovern was, it is extremely difficult for them to get past this left-right paradigm.
00:29:32.000Probably because the right-wing end of it is outwardly evil in many cases, man.
00:29:37.000I'm gonna get into your question a little bit more on the other side.
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00:33:21.000It is the Alex Jones Show, and to finish up on that caller's point, everybody I've interviewed that was part of, you know, the Reagan administration in the 80s, or the Bush administration in the 90s, or worked with these people, always seems to fall back into this left-right paradigm.
00:33:39.000You know, when I interviewed Ray McGovern years ago, when we had just put the Democrats into office, he feels like, you know, now they need to be emboldened, but they're going to do something.
00:33:50.000Paul Craig Roberts, although he realizes both of these are corporatized candidates, Barack Obama, He feels is the better one because he's not associated with the Republicans.
00:33:59.000I mean, I brought up Bilderberg to him.
00:34:00.000I brought up the fact that him and Hillary had probably met with those guys, and he just does not give any credence to the fact that Bilderberg or Bohemian Grove or Davos or any of this stuff really sets any policy, and I couldn't be of a more different opinion.
00:34:51.000I think they were actually going on this week.
00:34:52.000I got a call earlier this week about those types of drills, and the ones I've been focusing on are the ones out in Denver, but apparently there's a couple more going on in the country, and there's a good chance that... I'm pretty sure one of the callers did call in and say it was going on in Indiana, and it was urban warfare training, right?
00:35:11.000- Right, and the only thing I wanted to bring attention to was Indianapolis is right next to Beach Grove, which was brought up by the, what is it, Lone Lantern?
00:35:34.000Well, I think it is going on right now, but if you want to take a look at the type of drills that they're probably carrying out, go to loosechange911.com and go check out the drills going on over at Colorado.
00:35:48.000Like I said, I talked to you previously and we talked about just getting a membership to Prison Planet TV, the plethora of information that's there.
00:35:58.000And I recently was listening to an old MP3 of Alex's where he talked to Hopsicker.
00:36:27.000Yeah, I really dig Hopsicker's research, because he goes into the fact that the hijackers indeed had very odd intelligence ties, and on top of the intelligence ties, they had ties to being drug dealers.
00:36:39.000I mean, these guys weren't radical Islamists, they were cokeheads that were down at strip clubs.
00:36:56.000I wanted to comment on vaccinations, flu shots, and allergy shots.
00:37:02.000Don't hear much about allergy shots, but on November 22nd, 1963, I just turned 13 years old, I was given an allergy shot and nearly died from a reaction.
00:37:16.000This term that Alex continues to use, I just heard, tainted vaccinations, is misleading.
00:37:24.000There is never been any scientific proof that vaccinations, and I'll add flu shots and allergy shots, are safe and effective.
00:37:45.000You can add flu shots and allergy shots to those as well.
00:37:50.000I don't hear much discussion about allergy shots.
00:37:53.000I'd like to know exactly what I was shot up to.
00:37:57.000I'll tell you what, why don't you go down to NVIC.org and see what kind of information you can dig up over there.
00:38:03.000We had a great guest on earlier today discussing it, but when somebody called me up and asked me if I would take any of these vaccinations or any of these shots, I flat out said no.
00:38:13.000I'm not saying that every single shot out there is pure and complete poison, but I'm not putting it past them and I'm not taking the stuff.
00:38:30.000On the heels of your special guest you had, I'd just like for everybody that's out there to crack open their Bible today and take a look at Psalm 917.
00:38:37.000It'll kind of... just ponder it for a minute or two.
00:38:42.000The reason I called you is I want to know... I know you can't give a definite answer, but where is the line drawn?
00:38:57.000I look at the video of the 16-year-old boy, you know, in the video.
00:39:01.000Now then, I'm not trying to be Michael Wagon at all, so I won't even, you know, go down that line, but if that was my son... You're talking about, hold on, you're talking about the kid, let's be clear here.
00:39:10.000You're talking about the kid who had his teeth knocked out.
00:40:18.000Well, I mean, I agree with you 100% because I buy 50 blank DVDs every two weeks and copy Loose Chain 2nd Edition, Freedom to Fascism, and Martial Law 9-11 and hand them out.
00:40:28.000But what I'm saying is with this, this is one of these times where I'm not calling for anybody to do anything.
00:40:33.000I'm saying if that was my son, I have a 15-year-old son, a 5-year-old daughter.
00:40:37.000If that man had laid his hand on my son like that, I would give him something to remember that by for the rest of his life.
00:40:43.000Every time he couldn't use his right arm or walk with a limp for the rest of his life, he'd think about that.
00:41:03.000You know, another thing that totally fires me up, and another thing I said to this young gentleman who asked me about my Infowars.com bracelet, was, I was like, look, I'm going to lay it out for you right now.
00:41:16.000You're telling me that you have no power, you can't do anything about it.
00:41:20.000I'm going to just let you know who runs things, okay?
00:41:22.000The people that Say that they're Christian conservatives, that you praise as your leaders, are occultists, that are into pedophilia, that like to rape little kids.
00:41:48.000Dennis Hassard has lived with his male assistant now for years and years and years and years.
00:41:54.000We know about Barney Frank getting caught back in the 80s, when I think he was still a Republican, with an underage male brothel in Connecticut.
00:42:05.000The horror stories that have come out of the Bohemian Grove via the Franklin cover-up.
00:42:11.000You think you've got a strong stomach?
00:42:13.000It's 45 minutes long, it's on YouTube, and I'll tell you what, the first time I came across the information, I couldn't keep my lunch down.
00:42:35.000I wanted to comment about, you know, you had a guy on earlier that had a website, Repent America, and I see very few Christians that really see the hand of God and all that is going on.
00:42:49.000You know, the Bible talks about a time when Christ will actually be coming back, and I believe that we're seeing that day at hand, and you know, Jesus said that that Satan was the god of this world.
00:43:05.000So why are we surprised that the institutions of men are being controlled by it?
00:43:10.000Well, I would say this, because most of these Christian communities and these churches are anything but...
00:43:20.000They just want to sing and dance and read scripture and think everything's alright.
00:43:25.000But the bottom line is they're not really acting like Christians.
00:43:27.000They're not out there trying to solve the social woes that are out there.
00:43:30.000They're not reaching out to their fellow man.
00:43:32.000And they're willing to just lay down and become sheep and obey the preacher as if he's the godlike figure.
00:43:38.000Absolutely, but that's not what I'm saying at all.
00:43:41.000I think that the institutionalized Christianity that we see out there is, you know, they're pushing ridiculous subjects that really are not relevant and, you know, separating people by issues like homosexuality or abortion.
00:43:59.000Well, the real criminals are raping and robbing, you know, the country blind.
00:44:03.000You don't even know how much I'm with you on that.
00:45:12.000And what kind of material can we find on these sites?
00:45:16.000You're going to find everything from A to Z on RefDesk.
00:45:21.000And on Constitution.org, you're going to find everything Constitution-related, including Supreme Court decisions, The transcripts, the whole nine yards, like in D.C.
00:45:34.000v. Heller, you can go to the web blog on Constitution.org and you'll read the whole thing.
00:45:42.000All right, Kenny, I'll tell people to check it out.
00:45:51.000I think I got something we could all do that could easily make an effect.
00:45:57.000Start actively boycotting all the six media companies.
00:46:00.000Even retroactively boycotting them where if you have any music or movies from them, I'm not saying you don't watch movies or music, but you start pushing your money into the alternative media that puts out that stuff.
00:46:53.000But I was saying, you know, in order for us to have a chance in this thing, we are going to have to build at least one of us out in this alternative media, some kind of a empire that is at least one tenth or one twentieth the size of a Fox News department or an MSNBC only because I think we can some kind of a empire that is at least one tenth or one twentieth the size But I think that we have to almost play by their rules.
00:47:19.000We don't even have to be organized if everyone just listening to us made a conscious effort to look on the back of their CDs and DVDs and bought like...
00:47:27.000The smaller studios and record labels, it would make a big difference.
00:47:31.000We don't have to have rubber stamps on everything.
00:47:33.000Unfortunately, we live in an incredible Hulk, Iron Man world where Batman's coming out.
00:47:39.000You know, these are the big events for some people's summer lives, man.
00:47:43.000It's not even like the barbecue on July 4th or spending time with their kids.
00:47:48.000It's, oh my God, look at this Hollywood blockbuster.
00:47:50.000That's how much we've fallen as a society.
00:48:10.000At my county convention, I managed to snatch a slot away from a cane supporter.
00:48:15.000But anyway, when I got there, you know, we did the whole little pre-convention thing where each district goes into its own thing and we vote our delegates out to the main convention, but I got up to the main convention and was just completely flabbergasted.
00:48:27.000The event itself was like Triumph of the Will.
00:48:40.000Oh yeah, I mean, you know, just huge telescreen, the podiums and all that were all extremely oversized.
00:48:47.000You know, they had a soldier come out and help everyone.
00:48:51.000He sang the National Anthem and everyone said the Pledge of Allegiance to Texas and the United States.
00:48:56.000I was like, what is this, high school?
00:48:59.000It was like a demented cross between a pep rally You know, in the Nazi rally.
00:49:06.000No, I watched the actual RNC from 2004, grabbing some footage for my latest flick, and it's like a cult, man.
00:49:14.000I mean, these people don't have a clue, they're wearing funny hats, they're pledging their allegiance to blindness, you know?
00:49:20.000They're pledging their allegiance to an idea that no longer exists, unfortunately.
00:49:26.000There is some good news is that they are slowly waking up, even among the diehards.
00:49:29.000I wasn't having that hard of a time of Trying to convince people that something was wrong and that they needed to check it out.
00:49:38.000Even in those circles, you guys, you know, all of us, you know, us and Ron Paul Camp and you guys down at the Alex Jones Show, you know, we're reaching these people so overturely, so we need to keep this up.
00:49:48.000You know, at the convention, a new organization for Houston, for Ron Paul and all this other stuff was born and, you know, we're going to try and get people together.
00:50:16.000I would recommend everybody that can buy your Loose Change DVD and go to the 4th of July events around their communities and pass them out.
00:50:26.000And if you guys could get together and make a one-hour loose change video combined with Endgame and some of the others to talk about martial law in a one-hour presentation type video that we could buy or download, we could hand that out and have references to the websites and such.
00:50:46.000Let's see if we can't get that done sometime for PrisonPlanet.tv in the next few months.
00:50:50.000It's definitely some work, but not that much.
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00:54:16.000No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teacher, leave them kids alone One more time I want to remind people, 4th of July, coming to PrisonPlanet.tv, 9-11 Chronicles, Truth Rising.
00:54:44.000Confrontations with people like David Rockefeller, Zygmunt Brzezinski, Alan Greenspan, Bill and Hillary Clinton, real demons folks, get called out on their tyranny.
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00:56:09.000Alright, we can take a couple more calls before the end of the program.
00:56:12.000Remember, the whole thing plays over again at InfoWars.com all four hours in case you missed Mark Dice, in case you missed Jonathan from We Are Change Colorado, in case you missed the vaccine talk, in case you missed our coverage of the Austin Governor's Mansion with somebody who works security there, in case you missed Bob Chapman.
00:57:09.000i remember i remember the nine one eleven you realize how much equipment that heavy equipment how much heavy equipment they got out there so fast Well, yeah, I mean, you know, in Loose Change 2nd Edition we cover the fact that they have found those trucks underneath abandoned with gold in them.
00:57:24.000So someone must have told these people to get out of the trucks before they were crushed, you know, or they would have been in the trucks when they were crushed.
00:57:32.000I mean, they were literally taking gold out of the World Trade Center complex underground and they found these trucks abandoned underneath the World Trade Center.