Alex Jones has a huge broadcast lined up for you today, featuring CIA analyst Ray McGovern, former press secretary for Ronald Reagan, and George H.W. Bush Sr., who is battling lymphoma, joins the show to talk about the latest in government cover-ups.
00:00:43.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:00:47.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:01:00.000We've got a huge broadcast lined up for you today.
00:01:04.000Ray McGovern, top CIA analyst, morning briefer for Ronald Reagan, George Bush senior, battling lymphoma cancer, by the way.
00:01:13.000He's going to be joining us, he said a few months ago on this show, a few weeks ago again on this show, that the Bush administration is planning to attack Iran in the next six to eight months.
00:01:25.000And since he said that here, we have this headline.
00:01:28.000Out of Reuters and other publications, Bolton, Israel will attack Iran before next president is sworn in.
00:01:39.000Mossad's Dagan, an omen of war from Press TV. The Mossad chief is staying on an unprecedented another year, another sign of war, Israeli papers say.
00:01:48.000Reuters also reporting aid is saying that there's a plot to kill Ahmed Denejid, thwarted at UN meeting, and that the U.S.
00:01:56.000also tried, that is the private corporate interests that control the U.S., tried to kill him on his visit to Baghdad.
00:02:02.000Israel is exercising for nuclear disaster with Iran.
00:02:07.000Online Journal is reporting that, as well as the New York Times.
00:02:10.000That is just some of the news on that front.
00:02:14.000He will be joining us coming up in about 20 minutes.
00:02:19.000you By the way, my producer thought, why not try to get the directors of HAARP on?
00:02:28.000And so he called them up and he set up some of the different directors of separate HAARP programs to actually get their PR response to what HAARP, that big antenna array, is doing up in Alaska because Dr. Nick Baggage and many others have written books on the subject and gone back to some of the declassified documents from the 60s.
00:02:51.000Some of the nefarious things, but we'll talk to them and get their perspective coming up in the second hour today.
00:03:04.000A lot of the guests I think of, but sometimes Trey thinks of really great guests to get on, and that's certainly one of them.
00:03:11.000He told me last week we're probably having some of the HAARP directors on, including the director of HAARP, and then voila, we'll see if they're here in one hour.
00:03:20.000Also, there's lots of disinfo pieces like this one out of ABC News.
00:03:25.000Experts say price of gas should be $2 a gallon, not $4.
00:03:30.000Then they bumble around in this AP article that was posted on ABC News, and basically just put out a bunch of disinfo to the mindless, dumbed-down public.
00:03:43.000Americans are furious about the high price of gas.
00:03:46.000If you get too furious, have you noticed all the cops in black uniforms shoving you around, checkpoints, the cameras?
00:03:55.000Americans are furious about the high price of gas, and this isn't going to make you feel any better.
00:04:01.000A number of oil industry experts told a congressional panel money that oil speculators are to blame for gasoline prices breaching dizzying records.
00:04:09.000And yeah, 15-20% of it is speculation, driven By dollar devaluation, but the majority of it is just dollar devaluation on its face.
00:04:19.000Everyone in the world knows, but the decadent, know-it-all slave population that's having eugenics operations carried out against it.
00:04:28.000Just running around mindlessly, arrogantly.
00:04:32.000I mean, they know the government's lying to them, but they don't have any idea just how bad and just how corrupt and bankrupt and evil the system is.
00:04:40.000And so they'll be fed by the disinfo thing.
00:05:26.000Just know how to be slaves and how to be exterminated.
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00:08:34.000presents the Alex Jones Show, because there's a war on for your mind.
00:08:39.000Music You know, I'm still looking and watching, and normally, the Supreme Court ruled several months ago on, and they admit they secretly ruled on the Second Amendment, And they always release it during the summer.
00:09:02.000They had their meeting to, quote, release the cases.
00:09:06.000Some of them were released, but I can't find their ruling on the Second Amendment.
00:09:11.000Of course, we don't need them to rule on it.
00:09:13.000We have past rulings saying it's an absolute individual right against tyranny in government and criminals on the street.
00:09:21.000Of course, everybody knew you didn't kill babies in the womb, but the Supreme Court said it was a good thing, and they're responsible for the murder of 50 million children.
00:09:28.000But, uh, in Chile they turn mass murder into a privilege and a right.
00:09:35.000So I'm watching and looking to see what happens there.
00:09:38.000We have Larry Pratt, head of Gun Owners of America, and Aaron Zellman, head of Jews Preservation of Firearms Ownership, joining us in the fourth hour today, and we should know what's happening by then.
00:09:47.000It's very suspicious they haven't released it yet, and very ominous.
00:09:53.000It's as if they don't want it to be noticed.
00:09:56.000You watch, it'll be hailed as a pro-gun ruling and it won't be.
00:10:31.000Then we've got, again, Larry Prattner and Zelman, as I mentioned, and we'll take some of your calls today as well.
00:10:39.000I've got all this news about oil prices exploding.
00:10:42.000I've got all this news about commodities exploding.
00:10:45.000The dollar continuing to fall as the blind public, spiritually blind, psychologically blind, Intellectually blind, just stumble around like zombies, drooling, bumping into each other.
00:11:12.000You can wake them up to the fact they're under attack, but then they have no respect for themselves and don't think they can mobilize against the tyranny.
00:11:21.000You've got all these evil people working for government, all these other people that rationalize the corruption they do, and the things they carry out for the global corporate slave system.
00:11:30.000I mean, this morning, I'm pretty freaked out.
00:11:33.000I was reading a newly declassified, leaked, similar to other declassified army field manuals, in COINTELPRO, in DISINFO, in torture death squads, And you can just see them doing it all here in the U.S., how they incrementally ratchet up the police state till the public's under total martial law, and how they're deploying this inside the U.S. I was reading that with horror for about 30 minutes this morning.
00:12:01.000I could spend the next four hours on that alone.
00:12:15.000As they busted in houses at gunpoint, as they arrested people, as they took people out of their homes, uh, up in the Midwest where they've had some flooding, as they would just pull people over and run up and point guns to their heads, screaming at them.
00:12:28.000Just, just lawless government letting you know you're a slave in your face.
00:12:42.000There is just so much Going on and then I ran across This news here in my stack Dealing with Attacks on the First Amendment in this country and free speech in England and
00:13:13.000I have experienced in New York City In Chicago.
00:13:47.000It would seem shocking to some, but that's really what they say now.
00:13:51.000Another one out of the Mail Online, where you have this gay man who writes for the paper, and he's out at an anti-war protest covering it, when Bush came to town in England a few weeks ago, last week.
00:14:15.000He sees one of his buddies, one of his liaisons, and shoving people, trying to attack the police.
00:14:25.000The guy's got a big camera taking photos of all the protesters while he's provocateuring.
00:14:29.000Then the police go ahead and attack the crowd.
00:14:34.000And the article kind of halfway defends in a sick way that this guy's out there provocateuring and talks about how handsome he is.
00:14:43.000How handsome the Police captain in plain clothes is provocateuring.
00:14:50.000See, it's just an acceptance of open evil.
00:15:19.000When you've got thousands of people, peacefully, out there trying to protest Bush, and they've banned it in most areas of the city, and they're trying to get up to the barricades, miles away from Bush, and there's plain close cops running around, starting fights, shoving protesters, trying to get the protesters to attack the police.
00:15:39.000And the cops all know what they're doing.
00:15:53.000And then I read this article out of the register, where mainline video people, mainline photographers, news people, Can just be out getting a shot for the news of street traffic, and the cops come over and seize their tapes, and there's no judge, no jury, no arrest.
00:17:11.000I watched in D.C. on two different trips, two different days we spent there at Bilderberg, two of the five days we were there, I went and shot footage of just the landmarks, and I watched crowds of people, and I mean small crowds, Walking, you know, a hundred yards in front of the White House by a big park, and cops would just come over on a Segway and just yell at people and say, don't stand too long in front of that monument.
00:17:36.000They've been told, prod us, boss us, let us know.
00:18:13.000Just... Like Tony Montana says when the cops are interrogating him in Scarface, he goes, you want a Giovanno in every corner?
00:18:19.000Watching what you do, telling you what to eat, what to sleep, you know, what to do, where to go.
00:18:23.000I mean, this is, this is tyranny, folks.
00:18:26.000When you can be a hundred yards down a grassy slope videotaping the Washington Monument, and three different agencies will come over to you and boss you around and ask why you're doing that, and they know there's no permit.
00:18:42.000They know you, they know it's a no-permit city.
00:18:45.000They just try to see what they can do.
00:18:47.000Well, let me see what's on your camera.
00:18:51.000God, this is what you've done to America?
00:18:53.000Then they'd have security guards come over then another police agency, but I why it wasn't just me it was families Families that bring their children to see the Washington Monument and a cop will come over and say with still cameras Why are you taking photos of that?
00:19:06.000This is an induction into enslavement How can government agents listening say you're good?
00:19:13.000You know this is for the people you know we're going into tyranny you know you've hired 26,000 preachers and a half a million truck drivers and 23,000 executives, all to be your secret police, and all over the country SWAT teams are training the local kids on how to use guns.
00:19:29.000Guns are only good when it's in their hands against us, and how to tattle on their parents, and how to run checkpoints, and...
00:19:46.000This article, we got a link to it up on PrisonPlanet.com, but the headlines, the war on photographers, and it just gives all the mainline cases.
00:19:53.000No due process, no judge, no jury, no law.
00:20:20.000These are wicked, evil, hateful, bad cancer cells in the heart of our nation!
00:20:26.000And it's gonna get worse and worse and worse!
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00:25:00.000We really are honored to have him for the next 35 minutes or so.
00:25:06.000He came on a few weeks ago and said that they really are gearing up to attack Iran.
00:25:10.000He doesn't know they're going to do it, but they intend to.
00:25:13.000And now we have Bolton saying publicly to the press, to the UK's Telegraph, that there is a plan to have Israel attack Iran before The next president is sworn in.
00:25:31.000Meanwhile, we have the corporate media finally reporting on the fact that the neocons, including McCain's advisor, are saying terror attacks would really help them and be a great thing.
00:25:42.000So we'll talk about that as well with our guest, Ray McGovern.
00:25:47.000Mr. McGovern, can you break down the latest developments on the Iran front?
00:26:08.000Sorry. Our policy there toward Iran this time are the same foes that brought us Iraq.
00:26:20.000They seem to be hell-bent on doing what they seem to have promised the Israelis they would do before they left office, and that leaves only six months.
00:26:30.000And so we see Olmert and Bush huddling several times, and Olmert just seeming delighted at what Bush and he have worked out, mentioning operational details which are being now worked out by pilots and planners and so forth.
00:26:47.000The extraordinary thing here, Alex, is that it would become so inured, would become so accustomed to talking about, well, when will we start the next war, that American people don't seem to realize the gravity of the situation here.
00:27:08.000Not only in terms of, you know, starting a war here and there willy-nilly, but in this case, We're starting a war against a formidable opponent in which we cannot win.
00:27:22.000And if we start bombing Iran, the consequences will be, well, they'll be catastrophic.
00:27:28.000What is it in the psychology, Ray McGovern?
00:27:30.000I mean, you advise many presidents who are the morning braver for George Bush Sr. and are highly respected analysts, and all the other analysts are saying the same thing you're saying.
00:27:38.000I mean, what is it about Napoleon having to attack Russia or Hitler?
00:27:41.000Why do they always just have to push it, push it, push it?
00:27:44.000Well, partly because they gather around themselves a group of little sycophants, a group of, you know, courtiers, who just kind of say, yes, Mr. President, yes, Mr. Emperor, or whatever.
00:27:59.000And they don't question, they just kind of fall into lockstep.
00:28:05.000You know, all you have to do is review what has happened to the institutions in this country, to include the senior military under Rumsfeld.
00:28:14.000You'll see a thoroughly corrupted regime that sat around and helped Rumsfeld lie about torture and, you know, the destruction of the army in which I was proud to serve.
00:28:26.000So you have a situation where not many people are standing up, and when you get somebody like Taguba, General Taguba, who did the only And as you probably know,
00:28:50.000he came out last week with a prestigious international group, a medical association, and said war crimes have been committed premeditatedly, and that now the only question is, will these Yeah, and you know, I hate to sound like a broken record on this, but our founders, many of them from Virginia, where I'm from, had a very specific way of handling this kind of situation, and it's called impeachment.
00:29:19.000It was mentioned in the Constitution six times.
00:29:24.000The Democratic leadership, particularly John Conyers and the Judiciary Committee in the House, why they shy away, why they're so reluctant to fulfill their constitutional duty, is something that has me very, very outraged.
00:29:39.000And what we need to do is have a grassroots movement to say, look, you know, there are so many crimes, high crimes and misdemeanors here.
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00:32:37.000Being in government means never having to say you're sorry.
00:32:40.000What part of unconstitutional do not understand, George?
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00:33:56.000Ray McGovern's our guest for another 25 minutes or so.
00:34:00.000The point he's making is that a lot of people who don't know how the world works, who haven't studied the basics, don't understand the magnitude ... of the fact that this war is already one of the main reasons you're paying $4.15 a gallon on average.
00:34:19.000It's one reason our name is now absolutely hated.
00:34:40.000Now say tongues the Joseph Stalin's very virulent The worst nightmare, I mean the worst scenario you can imagine the u.s.
00:34:50.000Falling into the hands of absolute criminals the Democrats acquiescing because they're bought and paid for by the same power mad corporate interest And Ray McGovern's our guest to talk about not just what's currently happening in Iraq I want to get into that some with him and some new reports that have come out from the GAO, but of course what's happening?
00:35:10.000In Iran and and what those consequences will be and now the fact that Israel the United States and others Especially Israel are saying we're doing nuclear attack drills.
00:35:24.000We're going to attack Bush met with us and he said he's going to attack he's going to support us and And so you've got that message in the international press than domestically They put out more disowned disinfo about we found Iraqi weapons that were given to him by the Iranians That's on the front page, then a week later it's in the back of the paper that it wasn't true.
00:37:10.000And so, this thing could escalate very, very quickly into a situation where we threaten the Iranians with the use of nuclear weapons.
00:37:18.000And they have to deal with that, whether we make good on that threat or not, if, you know, even more More disturbing, but this could lead to that.
00:37:28.000I'd be more interested in exploring how this thing could get underway.
00:37:36.000They're not going to be provoked into doing a kind of attack on Israel or U.S. forces that would give us an excuse and the Israelis an excuse To really zap them.
00:37:50.000And what I mean by really zap them is go after the lion's share of their nuclear-related activities in Iran.
00:38:00.000Well, I think more likely than anything would be the kind of what we call in the trade here, in the intelligence trade, a false flag attack.
00:38:08.000OK? You get a boat all painted up with Iranian colors and you think a destroyer, a U.S. destroyer escorted in the Gulf.
00:38:17.000Wow. Uh, you know, he killed a bunch of Americans.
00:38:31.000Who would profit from that kind of thing?
00:38:33.000Well, it's very clear that the State of Israel would, because many of those, uh, extreme leaders think that they have to move against Iran before Bush leaves office.
00:38:43.000And we know Israel has done a lot of false flags before.
00:38:46.000That's declassified in public knowledge.
00:38:48.000Yeah, and you know, most people don't realize that in 1967, they tried to sink the USS Liberty, killed 34 of our sailors, and wounded 172 of them.
00:39:00.000And this was suppressed, and this was not investigated.
00:39:04.000And now we finally have the death of one of the lawyers that was asked by LBJ to make it look like just a mistaken identity thing on the part of the Israelis.
00:39:23.000So, you know, there's no question, but that was a deliberate attack.
00:39:28.000And by the way, sir, now that that's come out in the last few months, Chicago Tribune has admitted neocons are on websites saying good, It was a greater sacrifice for Israel, and now they're saying Israel comes before the U.S., and that almost like our sailors needed to die, and that it was a good thing.
00:39:45.000You know, it is really very, very strange.
00:39:49.000I mean, you go back to George Washington and his warnings against a passionate attachment of one country, namely the U.S., to the perceived strategic needs of another.
00:40:01.000And he warned that this is a very, very, very dangerous kind of phenomenon.
00:40:05.000And, of course, it's playing out here over 200 years later.
00:40:09.000The President is openly described by the fellow that I would describe as having the most experience of anyone in Washington.
00:40:20.000That's General Brent Scowcroft, who was the National Security Advisor to the first President Bush.
00:40:26.000He felt it necessary, while he was still serving as the younger Bush's chair, Of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, he felt it necessary to go to the Financial Times and say, you know, you should know that George W. Bush has been mesmerized by the Israeli then Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, that Sharon has him wrapped around his little finger.
00:40:55.000Now, you know, Alex, as an intelligence analyst, they're a very There are various degrees of reports that you give credibility to.
00:41:05.000Well, you know, this is horse-mouth stuff.
00:41:07.000This is Scowcroft watching what's going on in U.S. policy toward the Middle East, having a catbird seat with all the sensitive information.
00:41:16.000Scowcroft, who is a consummate bureaucrat, would never say anything to the press that he hadn't darn well thought through.
00:41:24.000Going to the Financial Times and telling them that this was a very dangerous situation, because for some reason or other, the Israelis seem to have our president mesmerized.
00:41:53.000It's just that this is the window that the Israelis perpetrate or precipitate or catalyze this kind of reaction that they hope to get from the Iranians, that Bush has already pledged publicly to jump in with both feet.
00:42:27.000Well, we know, because the American, Israel, AIPAC, the organization that was in here two weeks ago, We're openly pressing for that.
00:42:38.000And then, of course, a blockade is a major escalation of forces right up against each other, blocking their travel back and forth through the straits there, which is an economic and military act of war.
00:42:51.000And then that's almost guaranteed to where they may not even have to stage a false flag.
00:43:07.000Uh, it's admitted that for four-plus years, New Yorker magazines reported, the White House confirmed last year, that four Wahhabist terror groups, uh, Al-Qaeda groups, commanded by the number three of Al-Qaeda, have been, uh, funded by U.S., uh, military, and under the direction of the White House,
00:43:24.000to carry out terror attacks targeting police, dams, schools, All over Iran, and the Iranians are suing the U.S. for blowing up Moss staging events, and Iran's saying, okay, we're taking terror attacks, we're taking military hits, U.S. special forces are commanding them domestically, and our White House says, yes, we have forces in there, six months ago put a press release out, attacking you.
00:43:49.000I mean, can you imagine if Iran had their special forces blowing up police stations in Dallas, Texas, or Chicago?
00:44:01.000They're the evil people, and we're going to have the white hat on.
00:44:03.000But, I mean, Iran is taking these terror attacks every week, blowing up mosques.
00:44:08.000I mean, this is like a Twilight Zone episode, Ray McGovern.
00:44:11.000Did you ever think you'd see anything like this?
00:44:14.000I did not, although I've seen close to it.
00:44:17.000Alex, part of the reason they can take this is because it's so feckless.
00:44:21.000Part of the reason they can take this is because Because the National Security Council under Bush doesn't know what it's doing, and it's got a bunch of amateurs in what used to be the covert operations part of the CIA.
00:44:36.000The activity is not going to have much effect, and so the Iranians can kind of dust it off.
00:44:41.000But you know, what people need to realize is that the majority in Iran are the minorities, okay?
00:44:50.000In Iran, I'm talking about Azeris, I'm talking about Bulghis, I'm talking about Kurds.
00:44:56.000Over 50% of the Iranian population are minorities.
00:45:00.000And so what this administration, our administration, thinks they can do is play around with these minorities and fund all kinds of terrorist little...
00:45:08.000But all they're doing is getting more support from the central government.
00:45:27.000Well, you know, Alex, I've come to the conclusion that writing op-eds isn't enough.
00:45:35.000Speaking wherever they'll listen to me isn't enough, because I find myself speaking just before groups who are already persuaded that this is outrageous.
00:45:46.000So I don't know how to skin this cat, other than to think that maybe the time has come to put our bodies into it.
00:45:52.000Maybe the time has come to go into our senators and representatives of offices and say, And stay there and make sure that they know that, you know, we want to run this country.
00:46:13.000And I look at her and I say, my goodness, you know, what is going to happen to little Molly and her generation?
00:46:20.000What we need to do is be a little less selfish and put our bodies into it, because there is such a thing as too late.
00:46:26.000Martin Luther King said that very eloquently.
00:46:29.000There is such a thing as too late, and we're approaching that point within the next two months, in my view.
00:46:35.000Well, on a separate whole genre, but it fits into this, and then I want in the final segment to talk about the degrading situation and the propaganda we're getting out of Iraq, and different agencies putting out different sides of that.
00:46:50.000I was in DC to cover Bilderberg a few weeks ago.
00:46:53.000I have been in London, I've been in California, Austin, Texas where I live, and I watched police harassing tourists in DC who were at the National Monument, clearly families, taking photos when there's no law.
00:47:09.000I watched police minding them like I was in, you know, 1970s Havana, Cuba.
00:47:15.000I had police walk up to me in Austin and say, turn your camera off or I'll take it.
00:47:19.000Uh, and telling me I can't protest or can't stand on the street with a sandwich board, saying I'm for Ron Paul or I'm against the war.
00:47:27.000Uh, in England, they admittedly now are just confiscating people's cameras.
00:48:00.000Yeah, I think what you're about to ask is how is this possible.
00:48:04.000And it's possible because of the media.
00:48:08.000I call them the fawning corporate media.
00:48:12.000People have no way of learning what's going on.
00:48:16.000Number two, people are not very much affected in their own minds about this, since they don't know the ramifications of being eavesdropped upon.
00:48:27.000You ask your neighbor, don't you care that your private conversations on the telephone are being monitored?
00:48:45.000So, the tenor has really just completely changed in the country, and we've got to find some way to write that, which is not going to be very easy, but with the media, I mean, That's the sea change, Alex.
00:49:01.000You know, when I look back at Watergate, where I was, you know, reading every word of the Washington Post, and following it, like, for two years, I mean, that was the height.
00:49:11.000That was where the press, the media really, really came into its own.
00:49:17.000You look now, you look at the papers today, look at the Times, look at the Post, there's not a word.
00:49:22.000The New York Times wrote an apologetic piece this weekend, basically like, torture's no big deal.
00:50:04.000They should throw Cheney and Bush out, shouldn't they?
00:50:07.000Yeah, well, at least they should make a moral statement.
00:50:09.000So what you have, as you had in Germany in 1933, you have the Catholic and the Lutheran churches throwing in their lot, but the government not finding their voice.
00:50:20.000And so it's up to people like us to do what we can.
00:50:23.000And, you know, whether we're successful or not, well, it's not about being successful.
00:50:30.000It's about having integrity and speaking out and making sure people know what's going on, because if people aren't affected immediately, as they weren't affected, it was only those little Jews, my neighbors, the Jews, that were being carted off, you know?
00:50:44.000It was only those kids in the small towns of America that are going off to Iraq, you know?
00:50:50.000I don't Uh, I dare say the prospects are not good.
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00:54:17.000AnotherUntoldStory.com AnotherUntoldStory.com AnotherUntoldStory.com All right, we're going to keep Ray McGovern now one more segment into the next hour.
00:54:36.000Then we've got the director of HARP joining us to talk about that program.
00:54:43.000Well, the heads of three different programs inside the HARP program.
00:54:47.000Ray McGovern, one of the chief analysts for Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr.
00:54:51.000We are in the times that try men's souls.
00:54:54.000I feel sorry for these little neocon followers that don't understand they're gonna be paying 10, 12 bucks a gallon for gas, bare minimum, if this attack happens.
00:55:01.000I was just talking to you during the break, Ray, about the police state in this country, and you said, yeah, I've been arrested and convicted of unlawful assembly.
00:55:11.000I mean, you can be in New York, anywhere, Austin, Texas, and they'll walk over and say, you're not allowed to stand here on the street corner.
00:55:16.000There could be a guy with a sandwich board advertising tax preparation.
00:55:54.000Yeah, Paul Colleen Rowley, for example, out there in Minnesota.
00:55:57.000She was the FBI whistleblower, you may recall, during 9-11.
00:56:02.000She's taken to more mundane activities, encouraging and preparing herself these great big banners that they put over overpasses on the Minnesota highways.
00:56:38.000They know that what they're doing is illegal, wrong, unconstitutional, despotic, and then you're seeing the final equation in that where they come in with the suppression.
00:56:48.000I've heard the saying, make a dictator act like a dictator.
00:57:19.000Got to have a job just to pay for your gasoline to get to the other job.
00:57:23.000You know, reading over what special forces, what the CIA did in despotic countries to overthrow them, I'm not calling for violence, but some of the nonviolent things, the info war, using the weapons of the truth, I prosecute this like a war, and I think my listeners, they're doing that.
00:57:39.000That's why we're so successful here in Banner Hangs, Micro-FM, going into classrooms and handing out, you know, DVDs about what's happening.
00:57:48.000I mean, all of us have to get really aggressive right now against this tyranny, or it's going to go to another level.
00:57:54.000You know, national draft, police state, martial law.
00:58:13.000God knows, you know, we've got some of the regulations already prepared to even do things like impose martial law and postpone the election.
00:58:42.000When we come back, five final minutes with Ray McGovern, back in 60 seconds, we're going to talk about the Iraq situation, but Yeah, I hardly got into all these neocons writing op-eds.
00:58:53.000Gary Hart writing a letter to Iran saying our governmental state's terrorists actually better do what we say.
00:58:58.000I mean, they really know that a lot of us know that they're involved in the terrorism, folks.
00:59:03.000And so it's an open threat to the whole world.
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01:00:46.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
01:00:51.000We're gonna get him up for a full hour in the near future.
01:00:54.000It's just such a great mind, and his predictions have unfortunately all come true and unfolded.
01:00:59.000We've only got five minutes left with him, and I forgot to ask him this question.
01:01:03.000Should've done it off-air, but I really want his perspective.
01:01:06.000Because lately I've had like army intelligence types come up and you know, I'm in a restaurant and say little threatening things or let me see they're following me.
01:01:17.000Hey, do you want to attack the State Department with us?
01:01:19.000And then a day later, they're on the Bilderberg property with binoculars and, you know, laughing at me, following us, wearing clown mask, you know, just a lot.
01:01:26.000I'm actually having the black ops now physically mess with me.
01:01:31.000And, uh, Why do you think they're doing that, Ray?
01:01:35.000Are they starting to get worried about us, and is this a desperate attempt?
01:01:38.000Because it's not going to intimidate me.
01:01:41.000Well, it won't intimidate you, Alex, but they're hoping that it would intimidate others.
01:01:45.000And that's, you know, that's part and parcel of their approach.
01:02:10.000You just have to tell Egyptians, or whoever it is, you know, to get the right kind of answers to questions.
01:02:15.000So, the total absence of any regard for the truth, and the total absence of any regard for the Constitution, Well, I don't know.
01:02:39.000Part of it has to do with the educational opportunities, such as they are in this country.
01:02:44.000Part of it has to do with the macho culture.
01:02:47.000And the media, once again, I think the media is the prime culprit here.
01:02:51.000So they think they're Jack Bauer and I'm Al Qaeda?
01:02:54.000Yeah, and you know, Jack Bauer, you know, curiously enough, down in Gitmo, Jack Bauer was the, or 24, whatever it's called, was the big attraction.
01:03:04.000They all watched that, and they drew lessons from that, and actually they implemented some of those tactics, not realizing that they would be counterproductive, not realizing that the FBI was right.
01:03:15.000You don't get accurate information this way.
01:04:21.000And the situation is no better now than it was before the surge.
01:04:24.000As a matter of fact, it's a little bit worse because the objectives of the surge, namely a political accommodation which would allow us to withdraw gradually, that's as far In the future as ever all we've got or all our oil companies have got out of this is The permission to go back in there and extract oil and you know people who say this had nothing to do with oil Well, look what's happening now?
01:04:49.000Well exactly a credit artificial scarcity, which is what they were mad at Saddam for over pumping in 1990 Yeah, it's you know the the strategic strategic games here ... are the same as they've been since World War II.
01:05:09.000Secure the safe delivery of oil and gas from that part of the world, and secure Israel.
01:05:15.000And it's what they hoped would be internationally recognized borders now.
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01:08:52.000Okay, we are trying to get Jim Bates, HAARP Program Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicles Directorate on.
01:08:59.000Ed Kennedy, U.S. Naval Research Laboratory.
01:09:02.000Dr. Paul Cossey, HAARP program manager for the Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicles Directorate.
01:09:08.000And we just got a call from the public relations spokesman for Kirkland Air Force Base, and we're talking to him.
01:09:16.000He says they're about to call in, so we hope they come on.
01:09:19.000You know, we've had a few guests on talking about what they believe HAARP does, what they admit it does, and I thought, You know, why not?
01:09:28.000And Trey, my producer, thought, why not get the people from HAARP on?
01:09:32.000We had General Parton on years ago who headed up the Air Force's stuff on it, and he wouldn't talk about it.
01:09:37.000I mean, I had him on about some other issues with the military, and he was actually talking about his Sino-Soviet split paper he wrote that was then adopted into policy and then thrown out of policy back in the 60s.
01:09:51.000He became the head of Air Force Weapons Development, and just while we had him on, we took a call, and the caller said, you directed HAARP, and He said, well, I'm not going to get into it as classified.
01:10:00.000So we'll see if these guys will come on and, I mean, tell us what HAARP is, at least from their perspective, or what they can tell us.
01:10:08.000I mean, let me tell you, they were very helpful.
01:10:10.000Trey called them last week and just said, I want somebody on from HAARP.
01:10:12.000And they called back and said, OK, Jim Bates, HAARP program, Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicles Directorate.
01:10:19.000What is HAARP doing with space vehicles?
01:10:22.000I mean, is this for scanning for satellites or missiles?
01:10:25.000That's what I was always told, is that it was an over-the-horizon radar system that went into space as well, but Parton wouldn't talk about that, but he did say it had something to do with that.
01:10:35.000Ed Kennedy, U.S. Naval Research Laboratory.
01:10:39.000We've had old Ben Livingston on, who was there for a while, the head of it, with weather weapons.
01:10:43.000That was interesting, that was declassified.
01:10:45.000I mean, we just try to bring you, these are really interesting things.
01:10:48.000And we like to go directly to the source of where this Where these programs are being carried out.
01:10:57.000And we did announce we were having these guests on and we're a controversial show and talking to the public relations guy.
01:11:05.000He was saying, what do you want them on about?
01:11:07.000And I said, look, I'm having them on about whatever they want to say.
01:11:32.000Kind of like it was declassified, that the whole weather weapons program is up until 75. And before it was in any news article, I said, wow, my listeners have sent me these declassified documents.
01:11:46.000And they were online, Library of Congress.
01:11:49.000And he was up in uh the panhandle of texas running a weather control company uh and uh we flew him to austin and had him on and he had talked about how they controlled hurricanes steered them directed them and uh then fox news ap and others picked up on that coast to coast am and we do have some of the stuff that's been declassified about harp here and i thought why not go directly to the source instead of Instead of having people claim HAARP does this or HAARP does that,
01:12:44.000I mean there's so many rumors flying around, so many different things that have been said.
01:12:48.000One time I had an Air Force retired general on about a totally different issue and a caller called in and said you were the director of HAARP for the Air Force and he wouldn't talk about it.
01:13:03.000Well, I always have to smile because we certainly do like to talk about what HAARP is because there's certainly a lot of What it isn't, it's been a favorite program in the growth of the Internet.
01:13:18.000We started about the time the Internet did and somehow it got picked up and became a kind of a favorite blog for a lot of people.
01:13:26.000Unfortunately, what HAARP is versus what it isn't are so different that it's hard to even get into that.
01:13:35.000So in terms of what it is, it's a research facility.
01:13:40.000To conduct research in ionosphere and radio science, much like the type that started way back in the days of Marconi in the early 1900s, whenever they discovered that radio waves somehow got across the ocean, which was a great surprise.
01:13:57.000And that led to a whole growth of science in understanding the ionosphere, radio waves, and the physics and the chemistry of all those things.
01:14:14.000But then even in terms of the radio science that I'm sure it worked, uh, that caught on for tens of years.
01:14:22.000And over time, it's led to, obviously, the development of many systems that we're very familiar with and quite happy with, including our modern communications systems, and satellite comm, and long-distance comm, and even, uh, the global positioning Yeah,
01:14:48.000those kind of studies we hope well into the next century.
01:14:52.000So it's radio science, it's ionosphere physics and chemistry, and even space science because radio waves indeed go out into space.
01:15:02.000what is this part about Space Vehicles Directorate?
01:15:06.000Well, those are some of the arcane names that get put on organizations, but in terms of the Air Force Research Laboratory, there are a number of directorates that focus in certain technology areas, like aerospace, sensors, and space vehicles does connote in Why?
01:15:32.000Because HAARP might be used to detect satellites or ICBMs?
01:15:55.000Yeah, so there's lots of different It's related to space and in terms of the directorate that my group is involved with, we are part of that directorate in terms of the name.
01:16:13.000Well, sir, maybe the stories get started because there are so many different agencies and directorates and programs inside there that are compartmentalized.
01:16:33.000The HAARP program, we're very, very well known and known in the scientific community because most of the work we do is very basic research, I must say.
01:16:45.000And the description of the facility and looking at it and seeing it, there's nothing classified about it.
01:16:53.000In many ways, it's impressive because of its beautiful location and it does consist That's a good question.
01:18:26.000What about people that say that it's for weather control or weather modification?
01:18:30.000Well, it has, you know, unfortunately it's totally off-base.
01:18:35.000It has no interactions that affect anything with weather systems.
01:18:42.000Remember, the weather systems are relatively close to Earth, the jet stream and things like that.
01:18:48.000We're talking about the harp energy going up and interacting out in the areas, the hundreds of miles into space.
01:18:59.000This is even going into the Van Allen Radiation Belt, isn't it?
01:19:02.000Well, the radio waves, it's a high enough frequency that can get through the atmosphere, go down into deep space, that's true.
01:19:11.000But I mean, the Russians do advertise that they have these radio arrays that they claim clear the skies.
01:19:16.000That's like BBC News, Associated Press.
01:19:18.000The Communist Chinese claim that they have smaller arrays that can manipulate the weather.
01:19:23.000I mean, can't you see that that's why people then think that what you're doing is similar to that?
01:19:28.000Well, I don't know if I can see or even understand that.
01:19:32.000It's just that it has nothing to do with such things.
01:19:37.000And, in fact, the physical basis for talking about that or interacting with radio waves to do things like that is unknown to me, I must say.
01:19:48.000I don't know what the technical or physical base for people thinking that one could do that, even where that comes from.
01:19:57.000You think it's just more of the Russians making stuff up, then?
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01:24:51.000I typed into Google, Russians to clear skies for parade.
01:24:55.000I had remembered that headline from a few years ago.
01:24:58.000And Associated Press headline, nuclear missiles paraded across Red Square.
01:25:03.000And then it says, and then it goes into how they manipulated the weather with these different radio waves to clear the skies for the parade.
01:25:17.000About Russia remembers World War II with lavish victory parade, and it says that they use these antenna arrays to clear the sky.
01:25:24.000So I think that's what gets tied in to HAARP, because it looks similar.
01:25:28.000And I was talking to the director, Dr. Paul Cossey, HAARP program manager for the Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicles Directorate, during the break.
01:25:37.000And he was saying that he had heard about some of those systems for knocking out fogs.
01:25:43.000So you are saying you have, doctor, read about I know there have been attempts, for example, to disperse fog.
01:25:55.000Now, often that involves with a lot of, I assume, fans and things like that.
01:26:00.000Now, the use of radio waves to do it is unbeknownst to me, but I'm not...
01:26:34.000It's been going on since the days of Marconi to understand how radio waves interact with the ionosphere in space, what those mediums do to it under various conditions, natural conditions, when there are solar disturbances.
01:26:48.000Because we know, for example, when there are solar disturbances, certain radio waves can get affected, even blacked out, and you have to go to other systems or different radio frequencies.
01:26:59.000And all this noise has gleaned over the years through Thank you.
01:27:31.000It's nothing particularly new in terms of the ideas and concepts.
01:27:35.000It's bringing more modern tools, better capabilities with the new computer-controlled systems, the ways But you're not denying that in separate government programs there's been weather modification and weather manipulation programs?
01:29:11.000Okay, so it's one program there, but I know there's a lot of other agencies and things that are there looking at the data, and I guess, you know, I guess they get space on the system to run their own test, or I mean, how many different agencies are involved looking at the data, doing experiments?
01:29:26.000Well, we have a joint program actually.
01:29:30.000We're set up as a joint program some years ago with the Air Force and the Navy.
01:29:35.000And then with the participation of, for example, the DAPA, the Events Advanced Research Projects Agency, has been involved.
01:29:44.000In fact, all three agencies the funders over at least four or five years that basically brought the facility to their capability and had.
01:29:56.000And so in terms of what HARPS can study, radio wave interactions in the island here in space and how they might impact communications, radar, Final segment with our guest.
01:30:11.000He's the director of the Heart Program, Dr. Paul Cossey.
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01:33:48.000We're back live, ladies and gentlemen, final segment with the director of the HAART program, manager for the Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicles Directorate.
01:34:00.000We're unable to get to Dr. Jim Bates on and Ed Kennedy.
01:34:04.000The U.S. Naval Research Laboratory at the end said, oh, we don't think we're going to give him classification or allow him to go do that for some reason.
01:34:14.000I mean, if it's no big deal, and during the break you guys were saying you might invite me up to a Harp open house, I mean, Doc, if it's not anything so secret or anything, why would the Navy, who originally wanted us to have Ed Kennedy on, Dr. Ed Kennedy, why would they not want him on with us?
01:34:33.000No, that's a little unfair to what's going on.
01:34:36.000Just like in our case, the agencies have public affairs offices to kind of funnel and channel questions so that consistent and the right people are involved, and that's usually done ahead of time. Unfortunately, in this case, I was only brought in fairly recently because I've been out, but it was worked through the Air Force.
01:35:07.000I understand, so it was just a snafu that was set up so soon.
01:35:10.000Yeah, but the connection wasn't made through the Navy offices, uh, and I wasn't realized until today, I guess.
01:35:16.000But, yeah, normally I would have been...
01:35:28.000Uh... It's just to have consistency and make sure the right people are involved and that everyone knows what's going on.
01:35:35.000How many interviews have you done, Dr. Ron Harp, for radio or TV?
01:35:41.000There's been quite a few with newspaper people and magazine people and a couple times, I guess, not live radio, but national public radio has asked questions.
01:35:55.000They actually send people to some of the open houses and get a little more involved.
01:35:59.000What's the best question you were ever asked?
01:36:24.000Well, you know, one of the best questions I got from a phone call that went on for 15 minutes, it was from a lady in Alaska, way in the early days of HAARP, that was concerned, and she went on for 15, 20 minutes, and I patiently answered every question, and I thought I had brought her around understanding that we weren't harmful, and in fact, you know, we work there.
01:36:50.000We can't, we're interested in our health, too, and things like that.
01:36:53.000We went out fools, and I thought I convinced her that at the end of this 15 minutes, she says, that's what I thought you said, and I don't still believe a word you said.
01:37:02.000Well, you know, you get denfounded in something like that.
01:37:06.000I asked, like, answered 50 questions from a very one at a time and very carefully, and then the answer is, well, I thought you'd say that, and I don't believe you.
01:37:15.000So that's the kind of thing that's frustrating.
01:37:20.000Look, I have no doubt that most of the program is what you say it is, and I'm sure that it does get confused with other programs and other things that are going on, because I've had the father of weather weapons on, and, you know, there's all these declassified documents on that, creating hurricanes, steering them, killing them in the 60s.
01:37:36.000Well, I guess I, again, I see that, and we've certainly been accused of that, which is fascinating.
01:37:41.000Of course, we're not, you know, totally off the wall, but Where do those ideas come from, even?
01:38:00.000Yeah. You're not talking about, uh, some, uh...
01:38:03.000But, see, people believe that with HAARP, that chemicals are put in, and then, so some of the scientists have said, and then, uh, these, these different radio, uh, arrays, then somehow, uh, Yeah, I get it.
01:38:28.000I see those things, but I'm just flabbergasted because I don't know what the technical base is, and certainly it's nothing to do with HAARP or any capability that HAARP would have.
01:38:42.000In fact, Nothing I'm doing is classified.
01:38:47.000Well, when I had General Parton on who said decades ago he was involved in HAARP, he wouldn't talk about it, but I had him on about another subject and a caller called in and he just said, it's all lies, what you hear about it's lies, but it's classified and I'm not going to talk about it.
01:39:01.000I don't know whose dental part is or was, but if you're talking about decades ago, HARP only got started even in the planning stages in the 1990s, and we really only finished the site last...
01:39:15.000Well, he was the head of Air Force Weapons Development and he said he'd been involved.
01:39:25.000I think he got out in the early 90s, so I'm not sure, but you might look that up.
01:39:29.000I'm sure he just wouldn't talk about it.
01:40:06.000In fact, you know, airplanes that fly in a jet stream produce more power than what HAARP can.
01:40:11.000But we know that the different space waves, the different types of particles that come into the atmosphere, they're now saying that's a large part of our weather.
01:40:29.000You know the Sun and and and different particles that yeah, yeah But in terms of the interactions of radio waves such as harp They're they're puny remember lightning goes off tens of times a second all over the world and produces radio waves and strength and energy that that is not Oh, I understand.
01:40:58.000The sun is a huge broadcast for the radio waves.
01:41:05.000In fact, our interactions are so weak, we need to be where we are because it's what we call relatively quiet from electrical noise.
01:41:16.000And the interactions, the things we're studying that we can do with HAARP are so weak out in space that we need very sensitive instruments just to detect them and just to try to understand them.
01:41:26.000But they do produce a method by which we can repeat experiments and try to understand the processes that occur in radio waves Well, have you guys discovered anything?
01:41:48.000Like a cyclotron discovers new particles?
01:41:51.000I mean, have you guys discovered any new theories or ideas or different laws?
01:41:57.000Well, a lot of basic research to understand the physical processes that occur when radio waves interact in an ionized medium up in space, and then try to understand those and hopefully apply them to applications-related ideas.
01:42:16.000The facility itself is for the research.
01:42:19.000It's not an operational thing to communicate with anyone.
01:42:24.000The Russians, the Chinese, the European Union?
01:42:26.000Do they have similar programs, doctor?
01:42:29.000The European community has a facility in Tromso, Norway.
01:42:34.000It's part of what they call the ICESCAT community there.
01:42:38.000That actually was a facility like HAARP.
01:42:42.000that's been around a lot longer than HAARP, to do the same kind of relative kind of research to understand the physics and chemistry and radio wave interactions in space.
01:42:55.000Who do you pass your data on to once it's done?
01:42:57.000Well, most of their work is published in open literature.
01:43:00.000In fact, if you go to the scientific, go to Google Scientific and type in HAARP, you'll see tens and hundreds of papers produced out of the research of HAARP, and you'll see the authors are leading Scientists in university communities, for example, and the government laboratories.
01:44:03.000No. HARP is, we basically have a site up in Alaska, the Kona, Alaska.
01:44:10.000And what you, I don't know whether it was off, line that you mentioned.
01:44:15.000It was originally going to be way back in the 70s and 80s.
01:44:20.000There were plans to build a Air Force over the horizon radar system up at that facility back in those days.
01:44:27.000But with the change in strategic situation, that program was dropped in the 90s.
01:44:35.000And after a lengthy environmental approval process, That site became available to us for the scientific purposes of building the HAARP facility.
01:44:50.000That's, as I say, up in the kernel of Alaska.
01:44:55.000That's the only location we have, but we do have diagnostic instruments at various locations on the ground in Alaska.
01:45:06.000Photometers? Photometers, those are optical type devices that That's a good question.
01:45:25.000and on those kind of nights, when we send the radio waves from Harp up, we can produce emissions Oh! I understand, and so you observe those.
01:45:55.000to to major the earth magnetic field you know magnetic field that's around here And whenever there's, like, eruptions on the sun, like a solar flare or magnetic storms, you'll see those magnetic field components vary and jump around, and then they'll get quiet when it's quiet again.
01:47:07.000Well, what you do there, when you do some of those kind of work, by seeing where those emissions occur, what altitude, what the wavelengths with them are, you can start to understand the chemical constituents.
01:47:38.000A spectrometer is kind of the same thing where you're measuring these emissions at different optical wavelengths.
01:47:44.000Mm-hmm. And different emissions will occur at different altitudes, for example, and it gives you an idea of where the interactions are occurring.
01:47:53.000How they move around, and what's the relative concentration of some of those constituents up there.
01:48:00.000Amazing. In closing, two final questions.
01:48:03.000What causes the aurora borealis, and how are the radio waves causing a reaction that mimics that on a small scale?
01:48:12.000Okay, they are actually different physical processes with a similar-like result.
01:48:20.000In the Aurora Borealis, you're normally dealing with charged particles from the Van Allen Belt in space, what we call precipitating into the lower atmosphere.
01:48:30.000They actually come in lower than normal.
01:48:33.000Instead of bouncing out in deep space, the Van Allen Belt, in certain conditions, particularly after solar eruptions or geomagnetic storms, they can be channeled further down and they get down to about 100 kilometers altitude, where they collide with neutral Adam, which are more prevalent closer to Earth, and those collisions produce these emissions.
01:48:57.000Is that because the magnetic field isn't as strong at the poles?
01:49:01.000Oh no, it's strong and it's more vertical, and so the charged particles are able to actually somewhat guide it along.
01:49:09.000Oh, it's because it is stronger, it sucks them in.
01:49:11.000And more vertical, so they can kind of come down to lower altitudes, and when they get down to where the air is relatively dense, Relatively speaking, anyhow, out at 100 kilometers, 60 miles up or so, that actually will cause the charged particles to knock off and collide with the neutral particles in one of the reactions in the emission of light at various wavelengths.
01:50:56.000I mean, it's impressive in terms of the number of antennas and that, but that's just the nature of the technology.
01:51:02.000To be able to get a signal that we can measure hundreds of miles up Uh, that signal, by the time it leaves the ground and gets out there, it's so weak that, uh, you know, it really has a hard time competing with natural.
01:51:15.000Okay, uh, Doctor, I want to thank you.
01:51:18.000I want to thank the Air Force Base for having you on.
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01:56:13.000And they put off this whole, you know, persona of it's no big deal, it's all above board.
01:56:21.000And I have no doubt that a lot of it is exaggerated, what you hear on the web, or they combine other programs in with it.
01:56:29.000Because there's hundreds of different programs fiddling with the atmosphere and, you know, all these radio waves aren't doing anything, but we can make Aurora Borealis with them.
01:56:38.000Which is exactly what the scientists we've had on say that the technology they test and develop there is then farmed out in other programs.
01:56:45.000And I'm sure that the head of HAARP doesn't even know about those other programs.
01:56:48.000That's how General Stubblebine was the head of Special Forces, head of Army Intelligence, and he didn't know most of what was going on in other departments.
01:56:56.000But Dr. Paul Cossey, they were really begging me to come up to HAARP.
01:57:01.000And I was joking with them saying, yes, you can replace me with an alien clone or something.
01:58:11.000He was like, well, maybe there might be something to that, but the proper authorities are looking into that.
01:58:20.000Now, the way, talking to radio engineers, radio science engineers, is that if you have an antenna, say, 100 feet long, For a hundred feet out from it, it's putting fry you energy out.
01:58:30.000And then it cuts off by half at a hundred feet, and then another hundred feet it cuts down by half.
01:58:35.000So, a thousand feet out or something, you've got a tenfold reduction in the power of that wave.
01:58:43.000The problem is there's so many antennas, so many things all around us, and it's not the natural waves that we are accustomed to and that we're designed for, and that even govern our sleep patterns, and there's major studies on that.
01:58:54.000So, There was a lot of BS going on during that interview.
02:01:08.000I've got a little guest popping in on the next segment.
02:01:12.000Then we're here with bated breath waiting for the Second Amendment announcement as if we don't know what it's gonna be.
02:01:21.000Just finishing up with a HAARP interview, he was trying to deny weather modification, weather control.
02:01:28.000And I could tell he was really trying to restrict what he said.
02:01:34.000And he did have a guy on the phone the whole time with him, the PR guy, saying, I'm not going on air, I'm just making sure all this goes correctly.
02:01:41.000They were ready to disconnect him at any moment.
02:01:45.000And for some reason, they didn't have Dr. Ed Kennedy on, his colleague, or the other guy from the naval end of all this.
02:02:03.000And for other hosts that are gonna flip out now and say that we're in league with HAARP because we were able to get them on, You can call the PR people, and if you're willing to make ten phone calls, like Trey does, you might be able to get them on.
02:02:18.000But it's kind of like catching a fish.
02:02:19.000I had them up to the boat, and it fell out of the boat, but the line stayed in its mouth, and then I had to...
02:02:24.000I was about to catch three fish, and I drug one in.
02:03:09.000And we wanted to have them on, and so that's why they were going, Come on, Alex, we don't have space aliens up here during the breaks.
02:03:14.000Come on, come up here and see, it's really no big deal.
02:03:19.000Then he tried to deny that Parton was involved, and they did some checking, you heard, during a break, and came back and, Okay, there was a program in the 80s.
02:03:28.000The PR guy was constantly in his ear the whole time.
02:03:31.000On another channel, and then I'd hear him during the breaks talking, Oh, hold on, I've got that unmuted where they can hear, let me talk to you now.
02:04:02.000If you actually work your butts off, you can get all the big guests too.
02:04:08.000Boy, I got Trey working on a whole bunch of important guests right now for this week and next week just every time I tell you it pans out Lord willing we got some big guests this week big guests next week huge guests coming up next month Later in the month we've had some mega huge fish that have contacted us that we had right up to the boat in the info war and Who then got spooked and didn't do it?
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02:04:39.000It would send shockwaves if they came on the show, but they'd check it out.
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02:10:26.000And I'm not seeing ruling on the Second Amendment.
02:10:29.000This is very ominous, and I set up Larry Pratt and Aaron Zellman coming up in about 50 minutes to try to comment on whatever the ruling was today, and it hasn't happened yet.
02:10:44.000In fact, I can't radio broadcast and Google at the same time.
02:10:47.000Hey, Aaron, do a Google News search under Second Amendment Supreme Court ruling or Supreme Court rulings released Because it's going to come out any minute.
02:10:58.000I mean, sometimes they do announce the day after.
02:11:01.000In a few rare cases, like a week later.
02:11:30.000I mean, I have a small organization of 15 people.
02:11:33.000I'm about to expand to probably 20. But when you have a small number of people, it's hard to expand because you're so busy tied down with your other workload.
02:13:18.000But the reason it's so important that he worked for the Chemical Weapons Corps is that that's why they freaked out and looked at the ingredients of how they were getting rid of soap when he came back from World War II.
02:13:28.000And we're moving into detergents and chemicals.
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02:14:21.000We're buying detergents that are costing you for every dollar you spend in the supermarket, 17 to 21 cents of that dollar goes for cleaning chemicals.
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02:15:32.000I'd tell you that if you didn't know...
02:15:34.000Well... Marty, the people perish for lack of knowledge, and they will pay 85% more for toxic sludge that, in hundreds of studies and their own admissions, are causing asthma,
02:15:51.000allergies, and look, in my own family, if we run out of your soap or one of the other organic soaps we use, my wife still buys some stuff at the Whole Foods that, by the way, costs three times what the inorganic costs when you are 85% less than Inorganic.
02:16:08.000I mean, it's usually paid more for organic.
02:16:11.000But any time we're on vacation or at family's house, like clockwork with my son especially, and I was the same when I was a child, if somebody washes his clothes in Tide or in one of those other ones, he gets rashes all over him.
02:16:26.000You know, we'll be driving down the road two hours after he gets dressed in the morning and he'll be, Daddy, it hurts, it hurts, my bottom hurts, my leg hurts, and he'll have a rash on his back, on his hind end.
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02:17:00.000Lint is broken clothing from the detergents.
02:17:04.000They make it strong So it strips the soil, deteriorates the soil, it also harms your skin, your clothing, your washing machine, everything it comes in contact with, and is controlled by Procter& Gamble, the largest chemical manufacturer in the world.
02:17:22.000They did last year $50 billion worth of business.
02:17:29.000They spent 10% of that, $5 billion on TV advertising, Billboards, newspapers, magazines, to promote the consumer, to hypnotize the consumer, to have them believe that this is the end for cleaning.
02:17:45.000And these ads are so ridiculous, it's like a woman will be depressed, and it's a dark, dusty day, and then as soon as she opens the Tide package, flowers shoot out, and life's wonderful, and it's ridiculous.
02:17:56.000Well, with the perfumes in there, to smell beautiful, perfumes are toxic!
02:18:05.000You have a choice now, and this is what we feel, an American choice of getting back to good old-fashioned 18th, 19th, and early 20th century soap.
02:18:16.000Real, organic soap, made from coconut oils and vegetable oils, and not waste petroleum, and not sodium chlorides, and not perfumes.
02:18:27.000And all these things that do more harm than good and costing you more than it should.
02:18:32.000Now, Marty, you've got a whole line of great products.
02:19:46.000Marty, I've got to hold you over because I've got to get a limerick from you.
02:19:49.000And, uh, briefly talk about some of the things that are in the toxic detergents and shampoos and things.
02:19:55.000Uh, I mean, folks, the studies I'm reading, separate from Marty, about how they're telling people that have acne now, just get away from the harsh detergents.
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02:25:08.000But I believe you should filter your water.
02:25:10.000I believe you should try to save money and be healthier by having non-detergent, non-petrochemical cleaning products and shampoos and lotions and bar soap.
02:25:21.000I think you should own firearms for your protection, though we don't have any Second Amendment sponsors.
02:25:44.000Marty, again, great having you on with us.
02:25:46.000Just in closing, give me a, well, before we do a limerick, for people that don't know, when you say there are sometimes Hundreds of chemicals just under the term perfume or when you look at the things that are admitted to be in shampoo or creams.
02:27:55.000You know, I was just thinking, I'm going to come back, cover a bunch of news.
02:27:58.000I was just thinking about how amazing life is.
02:28:00.000I know I say this every day, but in different ways, it's just so incredible.
02:28:05.000And all the amazing humans that have lived before us, the good, the bad and the ugly, The creations, the things we've made, the things we've built, the poetry, the ideas, the quotes, uh, the...
02:28:17.000I feel like I know these poets and philosophers and people.
02:28:22.000Some of them I read thousands of years ago.
02:28:25.000Some of them dead for thousands of years.
02:28:51.000And I'm sad that he was so cynical and so worldly that he could never experience other things in life that some of us have experienced that he hasn't experienced, like Dennis Kucinich.
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02:29:11.000He said even more to me But saying that because he's committed.
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02:34:12.000It's not hard to find Alex Jones every day.
02:34:16.000Five days a week right here in the catbird seat on the front lines of the info war Okay The news ladies and gentlemen and there is plenty of it here in front of me We'll get into the Second Amendment the grave ruling coming down the pike any minute any hour any day now with Larry Pratt And
02:34:46.000of course, Aaron Zillman, and we'll have open phones on the issue of the Second Amendment and what you're going to do.
02:34:53.000Now, I do this every few months, I'll have guests on, on a topic specific.
02:34:58.000And our callers are so spoiled, with no screening, no nothing, that when I occasionally say I want to be on subject, people call in and have a tractor they want to sell, or they want to talk about Space aliens or whatever.
02:35:17.000The point is, is that I will take calls next hour, and a lot of them, but I want to hear what you have to say about defending the Second Amendment, what you're going to do if they start trying to restrict it, what the Second Amendment means to you, ideas you've got to wake up conservatives that the Second Amendment is under the greatest attack ever sustained, like every other section of the Bill of Rights.
02:35:41.000In fact, I'll even take some calls on the Second Amendment.
02:35:44.000Before our guests join us 1-800-259-9231 1-800-259-9231 You can also call in during this hour with any other subjects you want, but next hour I'm only taking calls on the subject of the attack on our right to defend ourselves, our right to protect ourselves.
02:36:07.000The surest sign that you're living in a despotism, you're living in a tyranny, you're living in a society run by crooks, Is when they come after your guns.
02:36:19.000Bolton says Israel will attack Iran before next president sworn in.
02:36:23.000Speaking to London Telegraph, John Bolton, a former United Nations weapons ambassador appointed by President Bush, has predicted that the state of Israel will attack Iran's nuclear sites before the next U.S. president is sworn in.
02:36:36.000Bunch of other officials and former officials are saying the same thing.
02:36:39.000They're saying it's probably going to be after Barack Obama is elected.
02:37:10.000Privately, he added, I think there will be public denunciations, but no action.
02:37:14.000However, Bolton panned the idea that an attack on Iran would be carried out by American forces, stating the administration has essentially given up the possibility.
02:37:24.000They know full well that if Iran gets hit, they've already put up with terror attacks and staged U.S. Special Forces ops and Al-Qaeda attacks.
02:37:33.000That's right, run by our criminal government.
02:38:52.000We got corporate media loathe to explain real outrage behind terror comments.
02:38:57.000Press fails to point out track record of neocons contracting for attacks.
02:39:01.000The media circus surrounding McCain advisor Charlie Black's statement that another terror attack would be a big advantage in the election contest has completely failed to explain why such comments are so disturbing.
02:39:14.000We've had governors, Republican Party heads, state heads, syndicated columnist, op-ed writers, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld in tape saying how wonderful more attacks would be and how we need more attacks.
02:39:34.000They wrote PNAC documents before the attacks saying it sure helped them get their new world order in.
02:40:21.000I mean, I predicted a lot of stuff, and you think it sounds crazy when I predict it.
02:40:25.000The way they're going, if it continues, I predict they may come right out and basically say, we carried out the attacks, but it was for your own good.
02:40:37.000I've already had special ops people email me on the street and stuff, go, yeah, so what, maybe we did it.
02:40:43.000You gotta, the people are wimps, we gotta get them motivated to fight the Muslim threat.
02:40:46.000I mean, they know we know they did it now, so they're kind of just going, well, we did it for your own good.
02:42:27.000You protect it by cancelling our websites, shutting down our sites, going after us, threatening us, suing us, confiscating our cameras, arresting us for free speech.
02:42:40.000I mean, these cops and military that you see now on the streets of America, the military intelligence, they admit spies on tens of thousands of Americans, personally.
02:43:34.000Where you'll have the kitten scaring the mouse, the kitten and the mouse are fighting, and the mouse is beating the kitten up.
02:43:40.000And then the mouse suddenly is terrified, and then the kitten feels real powerful and rises up and says, oh, now you're scared.
02:43:47.000But right behind the kitten is their mama, the big giant one with teeth.
02:43:52.000They've got lots of cartoons like that, where it's a baby grizzly bear.
02:43:56.000Fighting with some other animal and it's losing and then the other animal runs off scared and the baby grizzly bear feels tough and doesn't realize it's mama's behind it.
02:44:05.000You think we're scared of you and you're on bestial low-level power trips because you wear black uniforms, get to intimidate people and get to run around playing secret agent and you're all jacked up in your career and make excuses for what you're part of?
02:44:20.000And you think I'm sitting here in horror of you?
02:44:44.000You are being murdered by your own masters.
02:44:48.000In a eugenics program, conservatively, a hundred 200 times the size of the Manhattan Project in funding and scope.
02:44:58.000The entire global government, our entire government, everything they do is to carry out your organized sterilization, your organized murder.
02:45:11.000And you laugh and you giggle in your own little suppressive culture, and, oh, listen to these nuts, listen to these kooks, look at what they're saying now, but everything we talked about is true.
02:45:21.000Recruiting 26,000 preachers to covertly have them go teach government sermons about submitting to government and taking forced inoculations and going to labor camps?
02:45:32.000And teaching flocks to accept their families being broken up?
02:46:07.000I remember three years ago, it was almost four years ago, we got the Republican strategy memo about how they wanted attacks and how great attacks would be and how they really needed them.
02:46:19.000We read public PNAC documents that are publicly published by the think tanks saying giant terror attacks are what they need for their new world order and they need them fast.
02:46:32.000You deny reality when it's in your face.
02:46:40.000I can't tell you how many government bureaucrats and people that serve the system that have laughed at me and then years later They sent me emails going, oh my god, oh my god, I took my 18-month-old in, they got their next round of shots and he had a seizure that night.
02:46:54.000Oh my god, man, I laughed at you, it's true, Jesus, help me, what do I do?
02:46:58.000You say you know detoxes, what do I do?
02:47:58.000An aide says there was a plot to kill Ahmed Dinegi that the US and Israel tried to kill him in Baghdad and in Rome.
02:48:07.000Israel is exercising for nuclear disaster with Iran, Reuters and Yahoo.
02:48:11.000The New York Times reported Friday that Israel carried out a major military strikes this month, exercise this month, described by unnamed American officials as a rehearsal for mayhem, i.e.
02:48:22.000a powerful attack on Iran's nuclear uranium enrichment plant.
02:48:27.000And they're preparing for all-out war and counterattacks and everything else.
02:48:34.000There's big disinfo stories in the AP.
02:48:55.000And I find no adults, I find no one on financial shows, but you talk to financial people at Oil companies, and...
02:49:05.000Last night, I just so happened to be somewhere at dinner, where there was an oil company chief officer there, and I was talking to him, and he was going, yeah, no, it's all the dollar, that's right.
02:49:20.000And he said, um, thank God for any speculation.
02:49:24.000The speculation's in the drilling, mainly.
02:49:26.000Running around drilling everywhere, which is good, it actually causes exploration with larger wildcats that Then cut out the big monopolies that are not drilling because they want to artificially suppress oil.
02:50:34.000They said, look, the dollar's been devalued, and that's the end of it, and it's not our fault that speculators are trying to get out of the dollar, so they're rushing into commodities that has increased at some, but the lion's share of the increase, 70 plus percent, is the dollar devaluation.
02:50:48.000And there's nothing we can do about it.
02:58:09.000December of 07, he was in the center of Hull taking photos.
02:58:14.000Unfortunately for him, his actions were spotted by two local policemen.
02:58:18.000They stopped him in the middle of the Boots and ask him to accompany them outside There they told him that he had been taking photographs of sensitive buildings one said I'm taking your film Mr. Carroll requested in a explanation.
02:58:35.000He asked whether he was Obliged to hand over the film in vain every time he asked back came the same response.
02:58:41.000I'm taking your film Robocop is alive and well and apparently working in Humberside when he eventually Thank you for listening to GCN.
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