Aaron Zellman, the head of the Jewish Preservation Firearms Ownership, joins the show to discuss the Supreme Court's recent ruling on the Second Amendment and calls from Carl and Gary. Also, Alex takes a call from Carl in Montreal and Gary in South Dakota.
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00:00:19.000Bob Chapman, expert on what's happening in the markets and with commodities, will be joining us for his once a week visit.
00:00:25.000We'll open the phones up for Bob Chapman.
00:00:27.000I've got a bunch of other news I'm going to run over as well.
00:00:29.000Aaron Zellman, the head of Jewish Preservation Firearms Ownership is our guest.
00:00:34.000Larry Pratt was on one of this in the last hour.
00:00:37.000I held Aaron Zellman over so we could talk to Carl and Gary, some of the callers that have been holding the longest.
00:00:43.000I mean, how do you get the subtlety out to people that when the news says, big victory for the Second Amendment, then they redefine the Second Amendment is you have a privilege for us to regulate you and tax you and maybe you can have a gun in a couple areas of the country if it's locked up in your house.
00:01:02.000And that's what even, quote, Scalia said.
00:01:51.000It's going to go into effect next week that if you don't give blood and you don't give a urine sample, That you can suffer the same penalty for refusing a breathalyzer.
00:02:02.000It's like in England and the U.S., England's passing a law, parents will have to be licensed to have children, and if you hug your child in public or kiss them, you will be arrested and the child will be taken.
00:03:57.000The one point I wanted to make is that the thing that people are not understanding, I think, the average man on the street, Is it that our rights come from God, not from the government?
00:04:06.000And if they can take or legislate away the first, the second, and the fourth, the next ones are, you know, civil trial by jury number seven?
00:04:12.000You know, are you ready to give that up?
00:04:14.000Well, I mean, we have the bar calling for getting rid of the jury.
00:04:17.000Well, that's the whole point Aaron keeps making.
00:04:19.000These laws are, even if you don't believe in God, they are organic to free humanity.
00:04:24.000This is the whole basis of our society.
00:04:27.000And they are getting rid, not just of the Second Amendment, they're getting rid of all of it, Aaron.
00:04:32.000Well, absolutely, because they have to, to achieve their goal.
00:04:35.000And we're letting them achieve their goal by not getting involved in fighting them.
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00:08:15.000Yeah, that state trooper called in earlier, that state trooper called in earlier, and he was talking about how earlier, and he was talking about how they're basically getting him all But see, I don't need to believe him to know he was telling the truth.
00:08:44.000I already have the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, I already have the Military Commissions Act, I already have PDD 51, and the declassified version says the President is dictator, and that means Barack Obama, that means Hillary Clinton, that means John McCain.
00:09:00.000And conservatives have been taken for a ride in this country.
00:09:03.000I want to ask Democrats something out there.
00:09:06.000When Barack Obama gets in, he's already saying he's for warrantless searches against the American people.
00:09:11.000He's already saying he's for going into Iran.
00:09:14.000He says, I don't like Bush going into Iraq, but Iran and Pakistan, that's another thing.
00:09:19.000I'll tell you what Democrats are going to do.
00:09:21.000When Barack Obama's grabbing our guns, and when Barack Obama is going after, and he's saying he is, and socialized health care, they are going to love it.
00:09:30.000And now I'm going to be the right-wing piece of trash again.
00:09:47.000The parties are bought and paid for, and I know you, the listeners, know that.
00:09:50.000But the general public still doesn't get it.
00:09:52.000And all these Obama-ites out here, I mean, I've got to argue with them and try to explain to them That he is bought and paid for by the same interest.
00:10:03.000Now Bob Chapman worked for Army Intelligence.
00:10:37.000That means you'll be paying $5.50 a gallon.
00:10:41.000Just all of these things are happening.
00:10:45.000Now, inside the housing bailout, they've got a provision for reporting of all shopping Any shopping cards, basically in the world, because it's an OECD agreement, it ties into Europe, everything will be tracked and reported and instantly uploaded to the government.
00:11:03.000They don't even give you the choice to say, you know, I'll report all myself and violate my Fifth Amendment.
00:11:27.000Bob Chapman, what does all this sound like to you?
00:11:31.000It sounds dreadful, and I've got to write about it twice a week.
00:11:36.000And, uh, fortunately I have, uh, skin like an armadillo.
00:11:40.000And, uh, it doesn't bother me, particularly after being involved for 50 years.
00:11:45.000Uh, but, you know, a little bit seeps through once in a while.
00:11:48.000I caught part of the earlier program, and I want to say one little thing here.
00:11:52.000I got a letter from a subscriber today, which will be in the next issue.
00:11:56.000And I forget which city it was, but, uh, police, uh, uh, management person, uh, uh, law enforcement officer was telling
00:12:05.000The subscriber that in his region or area that they have a map and that on that map they have all of these red pins in the map and the red pins represent people who are registered gun owners and the reason for that is that if the government for some reason or somehow goes about Trying to take people's guns.
00:12:33.000They're going to go in and swoop in and take all those that they know have weapons already that have them registered.
00:13:47.000Well, I had it happen to me, you know, that whole Canada story.
00:13:50.000When I went up there, they downloaded the contents of my computer in front of me for two hours, and they said, if we find as much as a pin-up, a topless girl, you're going to prison.
00:14:20.000They do it because, just as the gentleman on the last program said, there's the people who listen to programs like this who really want to get the truth and do something about it, and then there's the rest of them that don't care.
00:14:35.000I mean Alex, you know we tell them the truth, and I don't want to know about it.
00:14:41.000Well, Ron Paul keeps saying that it's all going to end when everything collapses, and it does appear, as you've said, that the elite did want to implode the economy, their own documents state it, to consolidate, but that it's even gotten out of their own hands because they're just so greedy.
00:14:55.000And what is, I mean, if we do go into a depression in the next two and a half, three years, as all the experts say we are at current trends, what will that look like when their system collapses and all these parasites are unable to take care of themselves?
00:15:09.000Well, I think the exposure of what they've done is going to be tremendous, and they know that.
00:15:16.000And that's why you have the laws that we have today, so they can turn America, and other countries as well, into military states, so that they won't get all put in jail for what they've done.
00:16:11.000It was over $1.40 just a little while ago.
00:16:16.000Now, I wrote a piece two to three weeks ago when they started to come forth with these pieces of legislation, one in particular by Senator Lieberman.
00:16:29.000And I said at the time that I believe that they try to pull that That OPEC producers will just pull their oil off the market.
00:16:40.000And today we had Mr. Gaddafi's government in Libya that spouts out 300,000 barrels a day say that the market is oversupplied and they may withdraw 300,000 barrels a day.
00:16:55.000Now, Washington and London knew all about this on Monday.
00:17:07.000And they want to have Lieberman, the Ocons, etc., a bill to put through Congress that would allow lawsuits against OPEC.
00:17:17.000And I said at the time, and I say it again, that they'll all pull their oil off the market.
00:17:24.000And as you probably know, Nigeria has a strike, plus they have warfare there, and they're losing 200,000 barrels a day from the market.
00:17:33.000And that's why Saudi Arabia came out and said, oh, we're going to pump 200,000 more.
00:17:39.000That was to offset the loss that was going to be taken during that period of time.
00:17:45.000As you know, there's been conflict in Nigeria between the Christians and the Muslims going back into the early 60s in our time, so to speak.
00:17:54.000And what they're going to do in OPEC is shut off the oil.
00:18:00.000They have been pushed as far as they're going to be.
00:18:04.000and uh... they don't like the united states and for good reason and that's why with this announcement which nobody very very people few people know about this that's what kicked this thing and of course you have higher oil prices as a result of that if it happens the arrogance of the united states and western europe and england has gone too far and uh... you know your enemy's enemy is your friend and in this case Today, Mr. Gaddafi is our friend.
00:18:33.000Well, I was about to say... Because he's calling them to account.
00:18:36.000I was about to say, though, we see this with people throughout history, and I have to say it's scary to know that this elite is power-mad and out of control.
00:18:44.000I mean, they'd have to be to do the things they're doing.
00:18:47.000I guess this just historically happens sometimes.
00:18:55.000The problem is people don't really get into and read history.
00:19:00.000And if you go back just to the 11th century, and you watch the evolution of warfare, politics, finances, the same hand is there.
00:19:12.000When they took control away from the Crusaders who were running the monetary system, and after that it was the same group of people, and the Crusaders who argued like DeMolay, they immolated him and hung everybody else or cut their throats.
00:19:30.000And this is the kind of people we're dealing with.
00:19:32.000It's been going on for a thousand years.
00:19:36.000I just really feel sorry for people all leveraged into debt, living the yuppie lifestyle, who've laughed at all this.
00:19:42.000I think it's safe to say they're in for some rough times.
00:20:10.000We're going to continue talking during the break as we upload this to the web and it's also live.
00:20:14.000I don't want to waste any time with you today.
00:20:16.000On other issues, and we'll come back to finance in four minutes so it's congruent, what do you think about this weird shooting at the Ben Gurion Airport in Israel?
00:20:26.000Well, first of all, I didn't hear anything about attempted assassination on Sarkozy.
00:20:29.000Israel and the U.S. are planning to attack Iran.
00:20:32.000A, what do you think about the Sarkozy attempted assassination, or what do you think that is?
00:20:37.000And then B, do you think they're planning to go into Iran, or what are you hearing?
00:20:41.000Well, first of all, I didn't hear anything about attempted assassination on Sarkozy.
00:20:48.000I didn't know any more than anybody else did that supposedly it was a suicide, which really doesn't make sense.
00:20:57.000As far as Iran's concerned, CBS is just pairing people.
00:21:02.000They and Israel are going to go for it.
00:21:04.000And I think Russia and China are going to get involved.
00:21:07.000I wouldn't want to live in New York or Los Angeles or San Francisco.
00:21:18.000Well, we know that we've I've been at the edge of the premises before, but if the Iranians are attacked, do they have a rational right to fight back?
00:21:31.000And then we may not be talking about staged terror then, Bob.
00:21:35.000You're right, and their allies are as follows.
00:23:28.000Well, you know, since I went to Bilderberg and bullhorned their conference, I mean, we were able to find a spot through the woods, it was only like 20 yards away, and Richard N. Haas, the head of the CFR, came out and looked at me angrily, and others.
00:23:39.000Since then, I've been getting death threats into my family and the children, and it just really lets me know they really are the bad guys.
00:23:46.000I mean, they are just scum of the earth.
00:23:47.000They are a bunch of cowardly, rat bastards.
00:23:50.000And I just can't believe so many good people are dumb and serve them, Bob.
00:23:54.000You're better off across the border in the middle of the narco-traficantes than you are with those people.
00:24:01.000Alright, we're going to go back live on the main show, Bob.
00:25:18.000And in the short term, what do you see happening financially?
00:25:21.000Well, in the short term, they're in terrible trouble.
00:25:23.000They've already, in Europe, England, United States, they've already Injected into the financial communities about 3.5 trillion dollars.
00:25:32.000And without that, everything would have collapsed by now.
00:25:34.000But I foresaw that they would do something like that, or almost exactly what they did.
00:25:40.000And they will make it last as long as they can.
00:25:44.000And that's why I was able to predict an event like 9-11 and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, because they had to use it as a cover For a failing, to cover up a failing economy, which they created and couldn't stop.
00:26:00.000They wanted to stop it, but they couldn't do it.
00:26:03.000And so, next what they'll probably do, is they'll probably do Iran, in order to get everybody's mind someplace else, and not worry about the Dow Jones Industrial Average going down 300 points like it did today.
00:26:17.000And in the meantime, after that, they'll say, well we don't have enough men, and they'll institute a draft.
00:26:22.000And then they'll start sitting on the American people by limiting everything they can do.
00:26:27.000They'll eventually put up currency controls so you can't get your money in or out of the country unless the government allows you to.
00:26:36.000Well, I'm sure you've heard of the new bill, very close to passing, where everything you do, any small business, all has to be wired into the internet, all the shopping carts on the web, and they don't even give you a chance to report on yourself.
00:26:49.000The government's going to watch every transaction.
00:26:51.000I mean, that is hyper-tyranny, and the general public doesn't even know what that means.
00:26:56.000Well, we've written about it for Saturday.
00:26:59.000Year on the year, you get there quicker than I do.
00:27:53.000The arrogance of power and the fact that they think the world owes them everything.
00:27:59.000Um, they don't believe in an afterlife.
00:28:01.000They believe in what they can do while they're here, in allegiance toward their satanic brethren, if you may.
00:28:09.000And so that's why they do what they do.
00:28:12.000What do you think about all the announcements about how the Feds are going to make, by law, breathalyzers in all cars by 2011?
00:28:19.000Now they're admitting, yeah, we've got face scanning cameras, and yeah, we're reading all your license plates, and yeah, we're tracking you everywhere, but then Senator Hatch gets up and says it's a conspiracy theory that the FISA ruling and the FISA law lets them spy on you when everything's being spied on.
00:28:36.000Well, it's a tough decision to make because we're getting very, very little help from the public.
00:28:43.000And if this sort of thing becomes overwhelming in America, people are just going to have to leave.
00:28:50.000Either that or they're going to have to submit to the tyranny.
00:28:54.000And for people over 65, it's easy to leave.
00:28:58.000Because, you know, you have a monthly income, you can go to a country in Australia, New Zealand, Central, South America.
00:29:06.000But they've all got similar tyrannies, Australia, New Zealand.
00:29:10.000Well, that's true, but is the tyranny as bad as what we're facing in America?
00:29:17.000No, it appears that we are marked as the people to be sucked on, that we're the idiots, that we're the right whale, that we're the one to hunt.
00:29:27.000Well, we can always go down to Paraguay and be neighbors with the Bush family.
00:29:32.000Yeah, I want to ask you when we get back, why is all the big money moving to Dubai?
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00:36:07.000Answering that question, then we're going to go to calls.
00:36:09.000Bob Chapman with limited time with you today.
00:36:14.000We know the elites are moving to Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, the classic places, but I see most of them.
00:36:22.000Big bankers, brokerage houses, they're even leaving Israel.
00:36:26.000I've been reading the last few months the top ten richest people in Israel have left, sold their houses, they're moving to London or to Dubai.
00:36:33.000Why are the elites pulling out of Israel the U.S.?
00:36:36.000I very well think that in retaliation if Israel attacks Iran that Israel would get attacked and who would want to be there if it was going to be attacked.
00:36:49.000So I think That's probably the reason for that.
00:36:52.000Although the only people who are going to London from Israel are the ones that don't have wanted stickers around their neck.
00:37:00.000And there's hundreds of people who have escaped.
00:37:05.000Going to jail in other countries by going and living in Israel.
00:37:15.000They don't charge anybody with murder, anything.
00:37:18.000I mean, that would kind of be neat if I had a country I could run to where I could do whatever I wanted, run any financial scam, you name it, and then take my money there and be safe.
00:37:59.000It's just that Dubai is one of the selective places currently.
00:38:07.000So the leader kind of making it like a new Israel or something?
00:38:10.000I mean, we know even Michael Jackson... Well, I wouldn't put it that way.
00:38:12.000You might put it a new Bahamas or Bermuda or Switzerland or Liechtenstein as opposed to... Israel is not a center for offshore corporations, whereas Dubai is, among others.
00:38:45.000Of course you know our way in on the subject regarding the Second Amendment and the Supreme Court's ruling today.
00:38:52.000The way it's being, of course, presented
00:38:54.000in mainstream media and I'm afraid probably a lot of people who honestly do believe in gun rights are viewing it or portraying it as they see it as a victory but really it was a cleverly done thing in that it's an order that's between a hundred, the court's ruling is between a hundred and thirty and a hundred and forty pages in length which in itself is almost historic and other than the initial facade of the ruling which says it's of course in favor of the second amendment
00:39:24.000If you would read on, you'll find out that there are caveats.
00:39:46.000Well, yes, they've made so many exceptions to the rule, as I said, in this case, the Second Amendment.
00:39:50.000What they have actually done is the highest court in all land has now for the first time affirmed licensing schemes uh... which has made what was a very bad situation a little worse because whereas at least before you might have some dissension between various courts and various districts well you had a bunch of states like vermont and others saying there is no licensing you know it's a right to own exactly it's it's a reign of terror you will now have backed up by a high court decision
00:40:20.000uh... government agencies uh... various levels various states and localities now saying well we've acting in it we will creating regulations and being reasonable mac in a reasonable way what will probably happen is you will start to see a large volume of these cases about what is reasonable being brought before the highest court and i'm sure that the court will rule in favor of the vast majority
00:40:45.000of government entities that rule that this regulation, or that regulation, or this licensing scheme, or that licensing scheme is in fact reasonable.
00:40:53.000We have never had a situation where the court previously has ever said that there can be reasonable limitations.
00:42:23.000I'm saying that the way inflation's going, the dollar's been devalued, and even mainstream media and analysts are saying $2300, $2400 an ounce gold.
00:42:31.000Bloomberg comes out with a headline with all these big brokerage firms, $300 million, $270 million funds, saying gold's going to hit $5,000 an ounce.
00:42:41.000I mean, if that happens, the dollar would have to be completely, basically worthless.
00:42:45.000And you've been saying that's where it's going to go, or close to that, Ron Paul saying that.
00:42:50.000What does it mean when Bloomberg and others come out with headlines about $5,000 an ounce gold, Bob?
00:42:58.000Well, it means it's been accepted by the inter-gang group in Wall Street and the Fed and in London that Too many people know about what we're doing now, and so I think we're going to give up the ghost.
00:43:15.000And that might have been reflected today.
00:43:17.000It doesn't mean that the Working Group on Financial Markets and the Fed and the Bank of England and so on aren't going to continue to enter the markets to try to impede the upward progress of gold and silver, but I think we're getting close to where the game is over.
00:43:33.000You know, they can sell 500 tons of gold in Europe each year, and that's the agreement that they have among central banks.
00:43:45.000They're either out or they don't want to sell anymore.
00:43:48.000But either way, we're in shortfall of production to demand.
00:43:53.000So you're saying that decades long, them dumping gold routinely or selling it amongst themselves to drive down prices, it looks like that's ending?
00:44:05.000And incidentally, they started doing this In October of 1987, illegally, and it was legalized in August of 1988 with the Working Group on Financial Markets executive order.
00:44:28.000And I think, you know, Bloomberg might be just giving up the ghost.
00:44:33.000Everybody on Wall Street knows what's going on.
00:44:35.000And now that the market's headed down, Um, I think there's going to be a lot of people saying, um, uh, maybe we should be heading for the hills.
00:44:45.000And, um, I, I, you know, 11,500, uh, down 309 right now on the Dow.
00:44:49.000Uh, there was support at 11,720 to 11,750 was broken today.
00:45:22.000Incidentally, half of the money that people got invested in good quality issues is going to be lost.
00:45:30.000Oh my God, I mean, to be clear, a lot of people say, I don't care, I don't own stocks and bonds, why do I care?
00:45:37.000Every company you work for, the people that buy your products, the people that buy your bread, the people that buy your whatever it is you're selling, the people that pay for you to cut their yard, they do work and own stocks, or they do work for companies that are funded by their stocks and by their issuances.
00:45:55.000And so we are, what, thousands of times over real assets in paper?
00:46:03.000And I just think people have a rude awakening.
00:48:12.000Just run for the hills, as Bob was saying, because what that means financially to the markets and commodities and everything else, it'll make the Depression look like a Sunday picnic, as they say.
00:48:22.000But $2,000, $2,500, man, right now at $900, $920 an ounce, you cannot beat it.
00:48:24.000Man, right now at $900, $920 an ounce, you cannot beat it.
00:48:29.000And Ted's got it below $900 an ounce, below gold cost because he made some major moves when it was down.
00:48:35.000Ted, we told them yesterday they better move quick before it starts rocketing up, but they never listen.
00:48:41.000They only listen when it's exploding upwards.
00:48:43.000I've been too busy to buy any gold, a couple coins, but you've still got those same coins, those francs, don't you?
00:48:49.000As a matter of fact, Alex, I do, and you're right.
00:48:51.000I mean, I would have a hard time holding it through this weekend, but we will.
00:49:26.000And that's why I said if you wait till this fall before you get your gold and silver, you will be paying 30 to 40 percent more than you did this summer.
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00:54:49.000I've got a few final news stories I want to hit.
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00:55:02.000Incredible guest after incredible guest, Paul Watson, Larry Pratt.
00:55:06.000I had Wayne Madsen on all in the first, second, third hour.
00:55:10.000Right now we're talking to Ted Anderson covering financial news.
00:55:13.000Yeah, Ted, I mean, talk about making our point.
00:55:16.000I had you on yesterday saying gold's going to explode.
00:55:19.000They're announcing they're going to increase oil prices because the dollar's been devalued.
00:56:45.000With Bloomberg talking about 5,000-an-ounce gold within two years, I mean, now is the time to move into gold and silver, ladies and gentlemen.
00:57:31.000I mean, if you say it's gonna happen tomorrow and it don't, you're gonna look like a fool.
00:57:34.000But I don't think it's gonna happen tomorrow, but I see the way things are going down with Ford moving to Mexico and GM about to go, I mean, I just don't know how much worse it can get.