On today's show, Chuck and Paul discuss the new 9/11 film, Truth Rising. They also discuss the growing movement against Big Brother and the use of forced inoculations by the federal government. Plus, a look at the Austin Police Association's concerns about forced inoculation.
00:00:55.000This film follows the growing momentum of 9-11 truth as brave souls throughout the world take action against their global... We are live at PrisonPlanet.tv for viewers.
00:01:11.000We'll keep rolling for Chuck Baldwin and then Dr. Paul Chris Roberts.
00:01:16.000Burmess is going to be in studio for a segment or so, a BBC hit piece.
00:01:20.000Edit Silverstein comments in Dirty Tricks Scam.
00:01:24.000We'll put that article up on screen for everybody.
00:01:52.000With another man in the act, with no sheets over him, and he sees the full, you know, penetration, I hate to get graphic here, and just says, you know what?
00:02:04.000And they're there going after it, and he just walks by and, you know, gets a glass of water out of the refrigerator by the bed and, you know, just says, well, honey, I'll see you in a little while, I'm going out to play golf.
00:02:14.000I mean, it's just getting to the point where it's mind-blowing.
00:02:17.000Back to... I'm sorry for that analogy.
00:02:19.000I'm out of control and I apologize deeply.
00:02:31.000To see the fact that at universities and in major cities and small towns, the meet-up groups, in some cases with thousands of members, are just taking to the streets for 9-11 truth, fighting the North American Union, fighting against land grabs, fighting against attacks on free speech.
00:02:47.000I mean, this is exciting, not just letting this huge grassroots movement dissipate, but actually in some areas growing right now.
00:02:55.000And yes, I'd seen that the police department a few days ago said, look, we've got concerns, we don't like this.
00:03:02.000Again, go to the police and say, come on, shake yourself, splash some water on your face.
00:03:07.000You know, it's in the name of goodness.
00:03:11.000Now they want to put Toyota and Ford, say, by 2011, all cars will have breathalyzers?
00:03:17.000And then you'll get a false alarm and they call the police on you and they come via the cell phone that's built into your OnStar type system.
00:04:15.000Well it certainly is and I hope a lot of people come out there tonight at six o'clock and of course the police will babble for thirty minutes and then take questions and the community leaders will have to sit up there and drone and try to keep their slaves in line but it'll finally be the time for the slaves to be able to speak to the god men and just let the god men know they're helping destroy the republic and that they better not be a part of this criminal operation.
00:04:39.000Again, give out the address to the Ron Paul Meetup Group here in Austin.
00:04:43.000It is ronpaul.meetup.com with the board slash 14.
00:06:02.000I mean, this is really a testament to who we are, to also protect the 9-11 truth movement, and to basically set bushfires in the minds of men, as Thomas Jefferson said.
00:06:13.000Yeah man, it shows the power of one person and then us grouping together and going against that which some seem to think is impossible, but it's not.
00:06:21.000These are human beings that we're confronting.
00:06:23.000It shows that no matter what echelon of power you're at in government or media, you too can be brought to justice.
00:06:29.000And it just shows me Hope for our next generation as Luke Rudowsky, yourself, We Are Change Colorado, Minnesota, Student Scholars for 9-11 Truth, all go after these guys, man.
00:06:42.000It's just so heartening to see them being called on their lies.
00:06:46.000I mean, Willie Brown being confronted about his San Francisco Chronicle early warning article.
00:06:51.000For instance, Gary Hart being confronted on his New World Order comments.
00:06:55.000I mean, this film is huge, and it really, like I said, I hope the sequel is Truth Revolution, and we even take it a step further, Alex, and I know we can.
00:07:04.000This movie really, I mean, it shows how the cops want to set us up.
00:07:07.000It shows them actually trying to say that Luke is a terrorist just to get him to stop using his free speech.
00:07:13.000You know, like it says on the tagline there, you know, watch as the global elite tremble before the power of free speech.
00:07:20.000I mean, they expect us all to be asleep, Alex, and they know damn well, especially with the Secret Service being here today, you know, that we are having an effect.
00:07:28.000And that they're not untouchable anymore.
00:07:30.000I mean, how many times has Bill Clinton now been confronted about 9-11?
00:08:02.000You know, we are sheeple chattel to them.
00:08:05.000And it's very unfortunate that more people don't realize that.
00:08:09.000Well, Jason, I also just want to say concerning Truth Rising that I personally have made several trips to New York for free, flown up there, put on events, and helped raise in one event $14,000 for the first responders.
00:08:25.000And I donated my time, my airline tickets.
00:08:28.000It cost me just to get my guys up there for four days and pay for all their hotels and pay the crew and everything about $10,000.
00:08:34.000And then we got out of that $14,000 donated to them.
00:08:36.000This really is trying We're going to help them and truly tell their story, that's about a third of the film, intermixed with all the information of Inside Job and the police state, and then who we are, the 9-11 Truth Movement, fighting for everybody, because if we allow the globalists to continue to stage events, they're going to win.
00:08:55.000We have to expose the problem-reaction-solution system, how they stage the events, that is so key, and finally the term Inside Job, false flag, Self-inflicted wound is now in the nomenclature.
00:09:11.000We're being attacked by all the big guns, international media, national media.
00:09:15.000I mean, we really are having a huge effect right now.
00:09:19.000And so, just for all of our safety, this film needs to be big.
00:09:22.000So everybody, get it at InfoWars.com or call 888-253-3139 to get your copy of that or Endgame or any of the other films.
00:09:30.000And please, I want you to get this DVD, folks, that I'm showing you on the TV program right now for PrisonPlanet.TV, folks, and I want you to get this DVD that is so high quality, so well done, and I want you to get it out to everybody.
00:09:43.000This film needs to be seen in its highest quality from the DVD.
00:09:47.000We have really good high quality up on PrisonPlanet.TV, but it's still nothing like the DVD.
00:09:52.000So, get this DVD in your hands and get it out to everybody, because this is a life-and-death situation.
00:09:57.000They would have already staged more attacks if we hadn't done what we've already done.
00:10:02.000And I wanted to put all of 9-11 truth in the film.
00:10:05.000I wanted to put everybody in all the confrontations.
00:10:09.000A few people have said, hey, we sent you footage, why isn't our confrontation in there?
00:10:14.000Folks, just watching the hundreds of hours, there's only three of us that worked on this film.
00:11:30.000I mean, you may be superhuman, but I do want to say that, you know, the reason I don't want this film to be criticized is it's for the first responders.
00:12:10.000You know, they're a couple hundred bucks now at Walmart, and you can be the media.
00:12:14.000Well, people also second guess how, when a politician ignores them, then they start shouting it.
00:12:19.000The whole point is taking over a Bill Clinton speech or a Barack Obama speech and having them respond to 9-11 Truth to get headlines so people know there's a social consciousness that's being raised.
00:12:30.000And I love these armchair quarterbacks that do say, they didn't do it right, I would have done it this way.
00:12:35.000Well listen, listen jackass, this is life and death.
00:12:38.000You try having cops try to plant bombs on you.
00:12:41.000You get up off your butt and you go out and do something.
00:12:44.000You can do it your way anytime, any way you want to do it.
00:13:21.000You know, I've got a little private area in New York, too, and I like just hanging back.
00:13:24.000But, again, you know, if you want to beg your murderers to tell you the truth, you're very naive, in my opinion.
00:13:30.000You know, and that's what I really hate when I see these message boards.
00:13:33.000Oh, we need to not shout at these people.
00:13:35.000Well, if they're not going to address us in a civil manner, when we address them in a civil manner and they're not going to be truthful, you're damn right we need to get in their face.
00:13:41.000You're damn right we need to yell at them.
00:13:43.000Well, most of the time we're yelling, it's because citizens and cops are grabbing our hair.
00:13:49.000Or stealing our signs, or accusing us of attacking cripples.
00:14:54.000Alright, Jason Burmess is in studio with us and he has had a chance to fully, repeatedly watch the latest BBC hit piece and I had a chance to watch it last night.
00:15:08.000Every minute or so I had to stop it and was shaking my head, just when I think I can't be amazed.
00:15:14.000At the disinfo, there's an article up on PrisonPlanet.com right now that only covers, I'd say, 2% of the baloney.
00:15:21.000And this one article is devastating to them.
00:15:25.000How they would edit Silverstein out to say, we gave the order to pull it, then they'd cut to somebody saying, the firefighters, and then we watched the building come down.
00:15:32.000Or they would edit Barry Jennings, or they would, I mean, this thing, they would not show the BBC news clip in full where they're saying, 7 has fallen, it fell in its own footprint.
00:16:19.000No, he got there after the first plane hit.
00:16:21.000He was in the building prior to the second plane hit.
00:16:23.000But that's important, because they need their lying timeline to say that they evacuated the OEM after the second plane hit the World Trade Center.
00:16:30.000They also make it look like Barry Jennings was absolutely alone.
00:16:33.000Now, we know that Michael Hess was with him, and that's the City Corporation Council.
00:16:39.000Now, they actually even did a reenactment of what he did.
00:16:42.000And they don't let Barry say when he gets there or how he got up there.
00:16:48.000On top of that, Alex, when he talks about the explosion on the sixth floor, all they let him say is the landing gave way.
00:16:56.000In other words, they don't let him talk about the explosion, and then they immediately go to the North Tower just fell.
00:17:02.000So they don't even let him tell his side of the story.
00:17:04.000They just say, These are very tight edits.
00:17:10.000Very tight to distort what's been said and we're video editors.
00:17:13.000We know when we put out the Barry Jennings it was big long clips with this very distorted.
00:17:18.000Absolutely and they actually did a reenactment.
00:17:20.000That was the only part where there was an actual reenactment.
00:17:23.000So, they gloss over the fact that he's with Michael Hess, they gloss over his timeline, they gloss over the fact that he says that he was in the building when both towers fell on that 8th floor after the explosion, which was an explosion inside the building.
00:17:45.000Alright, let's move on to other facets of this total hit piece.
00:17:50.000For instance, they say that Building 7 took a direct hit.
00:17:53.000Now, they do actually show the video inside Building 7 that we have, where they go up the escalator, but then they cut away and they say that it showed massive damage on the south side of the building.
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00:22:59.000Burma's continuing with the incredible disinformation The frenzy that we were witnessing.
00:23:05.000Yeah, so we're talking about this supposed new picture.
00:23:08.000Now, as they're showing it, and again it's not scanned in.
00:23:11.000They won't scan it in, it's a shaky... It's a shaky handycam, the guy's holding it and pointing.
00:23:15.000It does not match up with the famous popular mechanics photo that they, they're the only ones that had with this side of the building heavily damaged.
00:23:23.000And let's be clear, that building is grey when 7 was brick red.
00:23:28.000I remember when I first saw that in the magazine, I was standing in the grocery store I heard it was coming out, I went to get one, and I was going, my God, that's a great building!
00:23:37.000That's the World Financial Center across the street!
00:23:41.000All I can say is that it definitely didn't match up with this photograph, with the supposed maximum damage and scooping out.
00:23:48.000Now, let's get to Silverstein for a second.
00:23:50.000Now, they go over the Pullet comment, but then they edit out the second half where it says, and we watch the building collapse.
00:23:55.000Now, this is what I thought was interesting.
00:23:57.000They mentioned that it was to pull the firefighters, right?
00:24:00.000And they kind of back him up on that, but then they go to Daniel Nigro, and they ask Daniel Nigro if they would have conferred with Larry Silverstein to pull the firefighting operation.
00:24:29.000The US wanted to nerve gas them and we said no.
00:24:31.000And they say it might have been illegal to kill them.
00:24:34.000But then here in the US and England they did it.
00:24:36.000But still it kind of just puts it out there like well there was a plan but we didn't do it.
00:24:40.000Meanwhile there's all these reports where they did do it in other nations.
00:24:43.000So it's all just kind of a getting it out in the open.
00:24:46.000Now the important area to all of this is that The official reports admit the firefighters were pulled out early in the morning before the other towers fell.
00:24:57.000We've got Giuliani admitting that with Peter Jennings and later lying and saying he didn't say it.
00:25:02.000Then the tapes were later brought out on NBC News.
00:25:05.000So again, in every case they're lying.
00:25:07.000Now they're basically coming back in this piece and not getting into the fact that officially the firefighters were pulled before the tower one or two fell, many hours before they claim they pulled them at five o'clock in the afternoon.
00:25:21.000And let me say this, they actually did show the thermal imagery.
00:25:25.000Now, they didn't mention molten metal at all.
00:25:26.000Now, they say five days later that the thermal imagery proved, Alex... How about five weeks?
00:25:31.000Was it five weeks at the... Well, it was week after week.
00:25:33.000Well, yeah, no, but I mean the five-day satellite shots, they admitted that that was 747 degrees Celsius.
00:25:39.000Now, they say 747 degrees Celsius because the normal person hears that, oh, it was thousands of degrees hot in the World Trade Center, but that's Fahrenheit, folks!
00:25:47.000Okay, so they confuse it there and they gloss over that.
00:26:16.000Yeah, we don't have all these physicists and engineers and scientists and underwriting laboratory engineers who were fired for not shutting up.
00:26:23.000You know, they wanted to be fired for this imaginary religion five years ago.
00:28:09.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:28:14.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:28:19.000Jason, you got four minutes and thirty seconds.
00:28:21.000Start back at the first, run through all the basic points that we detailed, and get into the new ones as quickly as possible.
00:28:27.000Alright, they edited Barry Jennings statements to seem like he was there after the second plane strike after the building had officially been evacuated and that he was alone and not with Michael Hess.
00:28:36.000They also tried to say that he did not step over bodies, even though they did play the clip of Dylan playing the clip saying he did step over bodies in that building.
00:28:45.000On top of that, they showed this photograph very shakily saying that it proved that the building was heavily damaged.
00:28:50.000It did not match up in any way, shape, or form with the supposed popular mechanics photograph.
00:28:55.000Okay, on top of all of that, they had to also admit that Routers is the one that put out that press release that Building 7 came down.
00:29:05.000And we asked them for months, and they said we were harassing them.
00:29:08.000Tell us what news wire you got it off of, because we could tell CNN and BBC both reported the same thing.
00:29:15.000Somebody false scripted and gave them that, and that's who we have to go after.
00:29:19.000Absolutely, and they gloss over that fact, too, just like they gloss over the fact that Daniel Nigro admits that Silverstein would have had no input whatsoever in pulling the firefighter.
00:29:27.000And they also edit down what she had to say that was incredibly suspicious.
00:29:31.000Yeah, well, of course, we're all conspiracy theorists.
00:29:38.000Now, with some of the new stuff, when they actually got into the NIST report, for instance, yeah, NIST admitted that they had no steel from 7 to work with, and it was all a computer model.
00:29:47.000All right, so how are they able to even hypothesize that this was all due to regular office fires, which is what they're putting out.
00:29:53.000That was the last ten minutes of the thing.
00:33:23.000Yes, they end it with the emotional, the firefighters and family members hate us, they go down to Ground Zero, they briefly talk to Luke and another member of We Are Change, but then they zoom right in on that TV fakery logo.
00:33:36.000They want to throw in every crazy, preposterous theory to try to make us look bad.
00:33:40.000Which, a couple years ago, they could at least act semi-credible with saying no planes at the towers, but now it's meant with signs saying we did the bombing, and biting noses, and just running around frothing Wildly, blah!
00:34:20.000The Secret Service would not be here otherwise.
00:34:22.000Cars driving around, photographing people everywhere.
00:34:25.000I've seen some pretty brash comments on other forums that aren't as big as yours or your website, or sometimes they are as big as yours, and guess what?
00:34:42.000Get it out to everybody, folks, or your little buddies are going to continue to stage terror attacks and take all your liberties and freedoms.
00:34:49.000But listen, watching this BBC piece, because I finally watched the whole thing last night.
00:34:58.000Yeah, well again, they also end it with the expert Richard Clarke just saying he has no authority whatsoever, he's just the counter-terrorism guy for Bush, and he's the one that glossed over the war games.
00:35:07.000I remember there was like a 2003 interview with him, again, and someone called him out and said, well what about the war games on 9-11?
00:35:14.000Oh, that sounds like you're talking conspiracy theories to me, and he just hung up on them.
00:35:37.000And that's more than all the grains of sand billions of times.
00:35:40.000The guy who admits to it, because he's not in on the plot, Peter Power, a visor consultant, he admits to it twice, once on Sky News and once on the BBC, he gets confronted this year by We Are Changing.
00:36:10.000He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
00:36:14.000And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
00:36:20.000Well, in the next 30 minutes or so, we're really honored to be joined by Chuck Baldwin.
00:36:26.000Chuck Baldwin, of course, is a radio talk show host, author.
00:36:30.000He has tirelessly republished and gotten out the founding documents of liberty to tens of thousands of people, the Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and he's gotten the Constitution Party nomination, got it from the former UN ambassador, and Really, he's a fake conservative, another one of these neocons, better than Bush, but that's not saying much.
00:36:55.000Mr. Key, and I'm sad that, you know, Alan Yokees is like that.
00:37:04.000I'm just glad that a true anti-New World Order individual won this and can really go out to debates and events now and spread the message of liberty.
00:37:14.000And I wanted to talk to him just about his experiences so you can know who Chuck Baldwin the man is and how you can get involved in the campaign.
00:37:20.000And also open the phones up if you'd like to ask any questions of him, but specifically for Chuck Baldwin and this election and the Constitution Party platform.
00:37:30.000And Howard Phillips behind him and other great people.
00:37:50.000Out of the gates, I remember you years ago when this thing came out about preachers being approached by FEMA to teach their flocks to submit to government, hand their guns in, that you had said you had been similarly approached, but that was in my foggy memory.
00:38:05.000Get updated, because as you know now, Mainstream News has admitted they've recruited 26,000 preachers.
00:38:13.000We now have them on video, on national TV, and locally, saying the same talking points about, let them take your children, take the inoculations, being a slave of government.
00:38:25.000You know, as a pastor, who's pastored a pretty good-sized church in Florida, I wanted you to break down your experiences with similar things.
00:38:33.000Okay, Alex, yeah, we're going back to the days after Hurricane Katrina.
00:38:41.000I remember picking up that story out of Louisiana, and the reporter there chronicled how they were going to pastors in the area and asking them to facilitate the gun confiscation at the request of the federal government.
00:38:57.000And when I heard of that, I wrote a column about it.
00:39:01.000And after my column went out nationwide, I had a pastor call me from the state of Ohio, and he was approached.
00:39:10.000In fact, he went in on some of the training classes that were given, and he was giving me his information and his experience.
00:39:18.000And after that, I got up in my congregation, and I told them that not only would I not participate in requesting them to Give up their firearms because I was encouraging all of them to go out and buy a gun.
00:39:33.000That was the issue, and then that got some press.
00:39:36.000I mean, this is right out of the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany to have these state-approved churches, and when we got the secret documents two-plus years ago, and then it was a year and a half later that it was then confirmed, that really scared people.
00:39:49.000I mean, they thought I was producing fake documents from preachers, even though the two pastors that gave us that material got Homeland Security visits.
00:39:58.000Even though we covered up the phone numbers and where it came from, they were surveilling things so seriously that they were able to track who had done it, and it basically went and threatened them.
00:40:08.000How dare a preacher tell the public that they've been secretly approached to brainwash their congregation?
00:40:14.000I mean, this is hardcore tyranny on steroids, Pastor.
00:40:19.000Well, yeah, it is, and it's the beginning of what George Herbert Walker Bush called, and you talk about a lot on your show, the New World Order, and we're seeing it come to fruition.
00:40:29.000And I gotta tell you, Alex, and I think your listeners are already aware of this, that if these two major parties continue their dominance of American politics, the America that we've known, a free, independent, sovereign America, is not going to be long for this Earth.
00:40:44.000And it doesn't matter whether you elect John McCain or Barack Obama, they're both going to facilitate this New World Order, the NAFTA superhighway, the North American Union, and all of that.
00:40:53.000There's virtually no difference between the two major party candidates.
00:40:57.000And that's why at the request of Howard Phillips and several others in the Constitution Party, they asked me if I would consider putting my name in nomination.
00:41:10.000And I was very reluctant to do it, to be honest with you.
00:41:12.000I mean, it's not like I have nothing to do, Alex.
00:41:15.000I'm very busy, and I had to really pray and deliberate about that.
00:41:20.000But finally, God gave me the green light, and so we put our name in the nomination.
00:41:24.000And as you said, the delegates voted for me 74%, 24% over Dr. Alan Keyes.
00:41:29.000So I've been on the campaign trail now for the last several weeks, and I gotta tell you, I just came back from the West Coast.
00:41:34.000I was in Los Angeles and San Diego, then I went to Utah and toured the entire state of Utah.
00:41:49.000We made a lot of great friends and supporters.
00:41:52.000And I've got to tell you, it was really great being out there on the West Coast and seeing the responses from people that are looking for the truth.
00:41:59.000They're looking for people that will stand up without compromise and call a spade a spade.
00:42:04.000And I've got to tell you, I think as we continue this campaign through these next couple of months, I believe the American people are really going to start awakening to what's happening.
00:42:17.000Well, everybody I talk to, and what I personally experience, Mr. Baldwin, is the same thing.
00:42:24.000And now, out today, another scientific poll, the Drudge Report's got a link to it, it's also up on InfoWars.com, where Congress has the lowest approval rating in its history, and previously they never went below a 30.
00:42:39.000And they just keep breaking record after record after record.
00:42:42.000That shows that both parties are fully discredited, and they can't fool people putting one party in and taking it out and putting the other in.
00:42:52.000For the first time in over 100 years since the last major realignment, this is a mega alignment.
00:42:58.000We are at the point where the government is fully discredited.
00:43:03.000And that's with the public only having a micron, on average, of understanding of just how deep the rabbit hole goes.
00:43:12.000We have discredited these scoundrels, because on every major issue, they go against the Constitution, that also happens to be the will of the people.
00:43:21.000You know, funny how the will of the people happens to be aligned with the Constitution.
00:43:26.000You know, another thing is very, I think, symbolic of what you were just mentioning there.
00:43:30.000When I was out in California, Utah, I heard that there was a long time congressman out there that was a part of the establishment and he was for open borders and illegal immigration and the whole nine yards and everybody thought he was untouchable and that was Chris Cannon and lo and behold he got beat by a 60 to 40 percent margin in the primaries.
00:43:54.000He never made it to the general election.
00:43:56.000And this was a guy that they figured would never be beaten in Utah.
00:43:59.000I got a feeling that this coming November there's going to be a real shakeup.
00:44:05.000And if no other issue, I think, has galvanized the people as to the problem that these two major parties are presenting to us today, it's this illegal immigration problem.
00:44:19.000I got the VIP tour of the main port of entry there, south of San Diego, on the border.
00:44:26.000And then I went out into the real border, into the desert, and I saw the real situation that's going on out there, and I got a chance to talk to Border Patrol people and volunteers and so forth on the border.
00:45:16.000A boy that's 17 years old, he was an honor student in school.
00:45:20.000He was preparing for college, he was a star athlete, he made the honor roll, he was Dean's List, all of that.
00:45:27.000He's standing out front of his home, in his front yard, and an illegal Mexican gangbanger came up and shot him in the gut.
00:45:36.000And as the young man is writhing in pain on the ground, this fellow takes his gun and He puts it to his head and blows his brains out right there in the front yard.
00:45:48.000And Alex, the thing about this is this guy had already assaulted a police officer there in Los Angeles, and he was out of jail on parole for assaulting a police officer when he killed this young man.
00:46:04.000That's just one example of what's going on.
00:46:06.000And for those that don't know, Chuck, sorry to interrupt you, there is a bounty on what the illegal aliens call Mayottas, and I didn't know this until a few years ago.
00:46:16.000With at least a strain of the Mexican culture, blacks are completely reviled.
00:46:21.000Now the mainstream media has had to admit that that's why a lot of people aren't going to vote who happen to be just recent American citizens, because they're going to vote for McCain instead, even though they're Democrats, because they hate, quote, blackbirds.
00:46:35.000I hate to use that term, but we've got a serious race relations problem here.
00:46:40.000Other question, Los Angeles, California is a real war zone with these gangs coming across the border.
00:46:46.000And when you look at the two major party candidates, really, you look at Barack Obama, you look at John McCain, you look at McAmnesty McCain, there's no difference in these fellas when it comes to securing our borders.
00:46:57.000Neither one of these fellas have any intention on securing our borders.
00:47:01.000If the American people want to elect someone in November who really has the will and the determination To seal our borders and to protect our borders.
00:47:10.000There's only one candidate in 2008 and that's Chuck Baldwin.
00:47:33.000And in order to do that they have to keep these borders open.
00:47:36.000Chuck Baldwin, what I'm doing with some of the segments now is I'm also simulcasting this on my internet site via TV program and the web streams at InfoWars.com.
00:47:45.000I don't want to waste any time with you, so we're going to talk a little bit here on the internet, kind of behind the scenes, then come back in a few minutes for everybody else.
00:47:54.000We're going right back to Chuck Baldwin.
00:47:59.000Okay, yeah, go ahead and bring me back to Mr. Baldwin.
00:48:01.000Chuck, before you leave us, we're going to get out all the websites, how volunteers get involved, and I want to talk about a whole host of other issues.
00:48:09.000But first off, I forgot to ask my producer, do you want to stay with us until about 45 after so we can take calls?
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00:52:12.000The New World Order's doing everything to us they said they'd do, and more.
00:52:16.000Chuck Baldwin, really great guy, great writer, great researcher, wonderful pastor.
00:52:28.000The type of person we need to run for president, Ron Paul, is out.
00:52:35.000Hey, duty's ours, consequence belongs to God.
00:52:39.000We need to all get behind Chuck Baldwin.
00:52:41.000We're going to be taking your calls in the next segment with him.
00:52:44.000Then we're going to get into a bunch of news.
00:52:45.000Then the father of Reaganomics, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, is going to be joining us.
00:52:49.000Going back to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts again in the next hour.
00:52:54.000It's going to be very interesting information.
00:52:56.000But right now, Chuck Baldwin, Constitution Party presidential candidate.
00:53:01.000You've been traveling the country, and also you've been watching McCain for the first time, a presidential candidate.
00:53:08.000He's campaigning in Mexico, Colombia, Germany, taking illegal campaign contributions in England, admitting it's a felony and just saying, I don't care.
00:54:54.000Can't hardly find anything made in America anymore.
00:54:57.000And I know I've been on radio and television the last several weeks, and I keep telling everybody, they ask me about this, and I say, you know, look, this is not hard.
00:55:06.000John McCain, he's all for NAFTA and GATT, he's all for free trade.
00:55:10.000You've got Obama... But it's not free trade, it's 14,000 pages long, designed where we have all the regulations on us, they have none on them.
00:55:19.000It's the same thing with John McCain embracing the global warming garbage.
00:56:03.000It's time for all of us common people out there, Alex, if we don't start banding together now, And standing together now, we're not going to have an opportunity to do so in the near future.
00:56:13.000Because I think that our country is perilously close.
00:56:17.000I think that we are hanging by a thread.
00:56:19.000Our freedoms, our liberties... Oh, I can feel it in my spirit!
00:56:49.000I need them to tell their friends about my campaign and to help us get on some of these major talk shows to get our message out.
00:56:56.000You know, if we don't work together, Alex, if the people that listen to you don't support you, You're not going to be able to get the message out.
00:57:03.000You can't do what you're supposed to do.
00:57:05.000And if they don't support me, I can't get the message out and do what God wants me to do.
00:57:09.000That's why we've had Ron Paul Meetup groups and the Ron Paul March on today, and that's why we've got you on, Pastor Baldwin, because we try to be a platform here with our wonderful audience who are the best.
00:57:20.000We just go back to them time and time again, but they always Uh, come to, you know, the aid again and again, because they know if they don't do it, nobody will.
00:57:28.000And you're right, everybody knows it in their gut, not just intellectually.
00:57:31.000You intellectually analyze stuff, it is put-up-or-shut-up time.
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01:01:40.000Yeah, you know, our platform is very specifically, we want to return America to constitutional government.
01:01:47.000We believe that without constitutional government, our freedoms and our liberties are in peril.
01:01:52.000And it's absolutely essential right now that we return to The principles as outlined in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
01:02:03.000And by the way, just to let your audience know, I'm going to be speaking this Saturday with Dr. Ron Paul at his big Freedom March rally in Washington, D.C.
01:02:14.000In fact, if I understand my place on the platform, I'm going to be speaking right directly in front of him this Saturday afternoon in Washington, D.C.
01:02:23.000Yes, I had the organizers on earlier today and they said that is the case.
01:02:30.000But I'm looking forward to doing that.
01:02:32.000You know, he picked up the banner there for us in the primary.
01:02:35.000And as you know, I supported him during the primary season and did everything I could to try to help him win the nomination.
01:02:41.000And whenever it became obvious that the Republican Party was going to reject his candidacy, then of course I became the nominee of the Constitution Party.
01:02:50.000And we just really believe that that message that Ron Paul was preaching is the message that we've got to continue.
01:02:55.000We just have to continue the message of less government and getting back to the principles as articulated by the Founding Fathers and getting government off of our backs and out of our pocketbooks.
01:03:35.000is the big engine, the big dominant system, or was.
01:03:38.000Powerful financial interests, predominantly multinational and foreign, came in, bought control of our government, have run out our credit, buying up real assets for themselves, and now they know they've committed great crimes.
01:03:49.000They're building a police state and immunity to protect themselves.
01:03:54.000And we even got the IMF and World Bank documents in 2002.
01:04:05.000It's against the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, against what the people want.
01:04:10.000And so many crazy things are happening that this is it.
01:04:15.000And again, the good news is, the bad news, we have a rogue government.
01:04:18.000The good news, that the constitutional position is the popular one, and the mainstream media is losing its control and losing its monopoly.
01:04:29.000And so we're in a very important sea change right now, a fork in the road.
01:04:35.000And people could say Chuck Ball will never win.
01:04:39.000Well, you could say Ron Paul would never win.
01:04:41.000Now we have tens of millions of young people out fighting open borders, gun control, the New World Order, NAFTA, GATT, trans-Texas highways, super highways, the NAU.
01:05:11.000We still are the greatest force under God in this country, and people need to remember that.
01:05:16.000You know, I'm reminded of the election of 1860, and while I'm not a big fan of Abraham Lincoln, the man and the president, I would go back...
01:05:24.000I was asked just this morning, I had a radio interview, a nationwide show, and they said, well, you know, you don't have a chance to win.
01:05:32.000I said, well, you know, if you were talking to Abraham Lincoln back in 1860, you would have said the same thing, because the Republican Party was a minor party at that time.
01:05:41.000They had elected no one to federal office to that point.
01:05:45.000Abraham Lincoln himself had been defeated time after time after time in every race that he ran in.
01:05:50.000And here he was running for the president in 1860 on a minor party ticket, and lo and behold, in that election, he won in a four-man race with 39% of the vote.
01:06:00.000And then, of course, the Republican Party became a major party.
01:06:27.000what may happen because we were willing to stand up and do what was right and so that's what I'm doing Alex and that's what you're doing every day on your radio show and now if the American people will band together with us and will help us and support us you know who knows it's a long time between now and November there's a lot of things can happen well it's also the example of the Alamo Those men said victory or death, and they knew what they were doing, and the fact is that 180-something of them died fighting at least 5,000 other soldiers, but that example
01:06:59.000That being overrun, being killed, standing up, fighting overwhelming odds, then embolden others to fight and win.
01:07:06.000And I'm not saying you're going to get wiped out or massacred.
01:07:10.000The point is, that is an example of duty being ours.
01:07:16.000And that you never know what God's great plan is for us, but we have to do the right thing no matter what is going to come of it.
01:07:25.000And so again, folks, we'll give out his phone number and web address for you to try to support the campaign.
01:07:43.000Chuck, it's great to have you on the show today.
01:07:46.000I want to say that one thing Alex, you just said there, you said, if we don't fight, we don't win.
01:07:50.000Baker Hoover once said that only an informed citizenry can defeat the New World Order or defeat who he believed were the New World Order.
01:07:59.000One thing I wanted to ask Chuck about really quick was, Asher Topp-Benson was Eisenhower's Agricultural Secretary, and he was quite an ardent and outspoken constitutionalist.
01:08:08.000How much have you heard of him, Chuck, at all?
01:08:12.000No, I'm not real familiar with him, no.
01:08:14.000Yeah, well, he was very outspoken back in the 50s.
01:08:16.000He was Agricultural Secretary under Eisenhower.
01:08:19.000And he spoke out boldly about defending the Constitution.
01:08:23.000And there was a senator called William Jenner, about the same time, gave a very bold speech to the Senate.
01:08:30.000And his final statement in that speech was that he believed there was a collectivist, one-party group trying to set up And that's why they're incremental.
01:09:01.000And incrementalism has never served our purposes.
01:09:04.000It's always served the other side, and that's what they've been doing for years, and now they're almost to the fruition part of their plan.
01:09:11.000And again, I go back to what you said, Alex, I think it's incumbent upon each of us to recognize that when we stand up together and do what's right out of principle, that then we invoke, I believe, the power of God.
01:09:22.000And of course, being a Christian, I do believe that God governs in the affairs of men, to quote Benjamin Franklin.
01:09:27.000And I do believe that when those founding fathers stood up against the greatest military force in the world, Great Britain, it was impossible that they could have won.
01:09:35.000I mean, it was impossible from a human standpoint that they could have prevailed.
01:09:50.000They said, we're going to do what's right.
01:09:52.000We're going to stand up against all these odds, no matter what.
01:09:55.000We're going to let God decide our victory or not.
01:09:58.000And they did what was right, and God gave them the victory.
01:10:01.000And I think that's what God is waiting for today.
01:10:03.000I really believe that if Christian people and conservatives and constitutionalists out there that know what's right in 2008 would just stand up and do what's right.
01:10:12.000And forget what the experts and the pundits say they should do, and what's the pragmatic approach to take, and just do what's right on principle.
01:10:21.000Regardless, you're going to go out and reach hundreds of thousands and millions of people, and it's the exercise of fighting that grows the party, that grows the ideas, that lets people know there's an alternative at a time when the minds are more fertile than ever to accept the truth.
01:10:47.000First of all, I'd like to thank Mr. Baldwin for his courage and best of luck to you, sir, in restoring the Constitution of the United States, which I admire even being a Canadian all my life.
01:10:57.000I think it's very important that the United States stay a free country so that the rest of the world can look to it as the shining city on the hill and aspire to that kind of freedom.
01:11:07.000I don't think that Canada has the kind of freedom that the United States has even now, and I live here.
01:11:13.000I'd like to also thank Mr. Ball for exemplifying the Judeo-Christian values that most of us, whether you subscribe to religion or not, claim to be if we say we're a good person.
01:11:27.000And it was also really well shown by Beit Shalom Ministries and Alex, your recent work, Truth Rising, I loved it.
01:11:36.000I think it's certainly your best work and I think it's probably also the best 9-11 documentary so far because it provides social proof where the others have provided evidence.
01:11:46.000Well, it provides evidence as well as social proof, but absolutely.
01:12:07.000I was wondering with this whole Illuminati thing, it seems like anyone I try to talk to about it or inform people, they just look at me like I'm nuts.
01:12:18.000I'm just wondering, is it Well, maybe you should start slower with your circle that you're interacting with.
01:12:26.000Some areas people are awake, some areas they're not.
01:12:29.000And start with the North American Union.
01:12:31.000Go to judicialwatch.org and get the documents about how they're doing it or give them My film, Endgame.
01:12:37.000If you can't afford it, it's on Google Video, but you can see it in high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
01:12:42.000You can give them your passcode if you're a member.
01:12:48.000I mean, really, instead of just talking to your family or friends, a lot of times a salesman will tell you, it's harder to sell your own family I mean, I could be at an event with cousins and family, and they treat me like I'm a low-grade moron two-year-old, and then I could have, you know, members of the Japanese Parliament or an Italian President or German Defense Minister, you know, tell me how much they respect me and admire me.
01:13:13.000Like, a prophet isn't known in his own country.
01:13:16.000I'm not saying we're prophets, but my point is that old saying is true.
01:13:21.000Your family thinks you're trying to show off.
01:13:24.000And so, or your co-workers, so give them a film and just say, hey, tell me what you think of this.
01:13:30.000Chuck Baldwin, you want to comment on ways to reach out to people?
01:13:33.000Yeah, I think your approach is very well taken.
01:13:36.000You know, we have to try to educate people beginning at the level where they are, and I think the one thing that people can identify with today is the immigration problem.
01:13:47.000I think this is the great opportunity that we have to try and explain to people what's going on when they They shake their heads and say, you know, why doesn't George W. Bush want to close the borders?
01:13:57.000You know, I was just down there on the borders, I told you earlier in the broadcast, and I saw the plight of our Border Patrol people.
01:14:02.000Alex, I was shocked to find out that our Border Patrol personnel, out of spite of the fact that they are sadly understaffed, they don't even have GPS equipment.
01:14:13.000I didn't know that they didn't have night vision equipment.
01:14:15.000Can you imagine putting our Border Patrol out there, out in the middle of nowhere, understaffed, outgunned, And they don't even have GPS equipment, and they don't have night vision equipment.
01:14:23.000Well, half their duty now is picking up trash in the woods and in the scrub brush, and when they park their car on those grids, which the illegals all have maps of, the coyote smugglers, they're only allowed to look one direction, and if they see illegals in the other direction, they're not allowed to stop them.
01:14:40.000Well, what I'm saying is, I think when people look at this and they say, well, you know, why is not this administration willing to secure our borders?
01:14:47.000While we're fighting terror halfway around the world, ostensibly, why are we not closing our own borders to illegal aliens?
01:14:53.000And then you can explain to them, you know, look, you know, This orphan border policy is serving a bigger agenda.
01:15:00.000You can talk about what's going on is the creation of the North American Union, and they want to merge the trilateral government from the United States.
01:15:08.000And it's in all their public documents.
01:15:10.000They have joint sessions of Congress down there, and they talk to the public.
01:15:33.000And I've often talked about those folks down there in Texas that are fighting for us like the defenders of the Alamo did.
01:15:39.000So many years ago, you were out there on the front lines defending us from this trance, this North American community and the NAFTA superhighway.
01:15:47.000You guys were on the front lines there in Texas.
01:15:49.000But what I'm saying is, I think that this affords us an opportunity to educate people as to what's going on in our government today, to recognize that there is something sinister afoot here, and here's what we can do to stop it.
01:16:02.000And American people need to understand that they do have the power to stop it, And I really do believe that if people will come together and will, you know, oppose these things and do it in a united effort, there's no telling what will happen this year.
01:16:17.000I want to take a few final calls here and we've got to let Chuck Baldwin go on to another interview.
01:16:57.000Yes, we're very hopeful that we'll be able to break into the mainstream television network.
01:17:02.000So we're especially hopeful that Lou Dobbs or Glenn Beck will pick us up.
01:17:06.000I encourage your listeners, Alex, to To encourage the Lou Dobbs Show and the Glenn Beck Show to have us on, because we think that they would be receptive to our message.
01:17:15.000And we have been on some of the national.
01:17:17.000We made it to Bill O'Reilly the other night in a mention, and I did Reason Magazine interview with them.
01:17:24.000I was in Salt Lake Tribune, which is a major newspaper.
01:17:26.000I was with the Orange County Register, a major newspaper.
01:17:28.000And you're doing a lot of radio interviews every day, which has big audiences.
01:17:32.000I mean, O'Reilly and them, it's only 3 million viewers, and a lot of radio shows have that many listeners.
01:17:39.000Now, in closing, I want to give out the website again and tell folks how to get involved, but I also just want to add, that's how the media, and I know everybody knows this, but we need to consciously think about it, how they ignore all the other candidates and only talk about the two, who really, there's no difference between them.
01:17:54.000Again, that's another reason to put pressure on the media, not just for Chuck Baldwin, but to overall show how they restrict the field intentionally.
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01:23:22.000The question is, will we be crushed in this colossus collapse, or will we be able to short-circuit their program and get some kind of reprieve for this society from this great tyranny?
01:23:35.000Tyranny comes every generation, but the tyranny we're witnessing now is one of the worst in history, and potentially the worst ever.
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01:28:35.000Meanwhile, it's on 60 Minutes and everywhere they have microwave guns, sound cannons there, rubber bullets, $25 million spent per convention.
01:28:43.000But they come in and call them weapons.
01:28:45.000They say they're going to use them on them.
01:28:47.000Then they use an emotional, cognitive dissonance trigger and say, some of the crazy people are saying that it's secret and that there might be weapons.
01:29:38.000See, they were meant to train, to see images of men in black shooting at people, flame shooting out of guns.
01:29:43.000The Army said 20 years ago, then they'll upgrade to rubber bullets, harder bullets that kill a lot of people, there'll be deaths, they're going to have provocateurs that will attack peaceful people, the news will be part of the cover-up, show the cops dressed up and say they're real anarchists.
01:29:59.000We're going to expose these little bastards.
01:30:17.000I hear idiots every Every day they say it's free money, and then they send federal control in, and with this federal money Delta Force in 99 commanded the anarchists, that came out in the mainstream news, and staged them rioting so they could attack the peaceful people.
01:30:31.000They are traitors and enemies of America.
01:30:33.000They are trying to destroy our democratic process and our first amendment.
01:31:47.000You know, those that haven't tuned out of mainstream news are just like... And then they'll see if the feds decide to spring it if we don't counter their black op.
01:31:56.000They will have their cops out leading little terrorist squads, and you'll find out the anarchists are really communists, most of them, that are with the cops, and they'll tell you point blank, they'll go, I'm gonna kill you someday, Jones, you're damn right, we're cops.
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01:36:11.000You have found it, the tip of the spear, the very front lines in the fight against the globalists.
01:36:17.000And their crime syndicate that has destroyed the name of our country, destroying our currency, setting up an unmitigated police state, and preparing a heinous, Hitlerian-style attack on the Iranians that even mainstream media and brokerage houses are saying will triple energy prices for the time.
01:36:36.000Dr. Paul Craig Roberts joins us for the next 30 minutes or so.
01:36:40.000And we're going to talk about the Iran situation, the neocons, what he thinks they're going to do, what's happening with the economy, the anthrax case.
01:36:47.000He's been writing a lot of great syndicated columns out there.
01:36:51.000He also, of course, has his second edition of his great book out.
01:36:55.000Well, Alex, I hardly know where to begin.
01:36:57.000He is the father of Reaganomics, former Wall Street Journal associate editor, and, of course, was the head economist, number two man of the Department of the Treasury, head of policy.
01:37:11.000Let's tackle any of those subjects I threw out that you want to hit first.
01:37:15.000Well, Alex, I hardly know where to begin.
01:37:21.000And, you know, for some years I've been expressing the view that an attack on Iran was in the cards unless somebody was able to stop it. - Mm.
01:37:33.000And it doesn't look like the Congress or the media are going to stop it.
01:37:41.000There's indications that the United States military is not very happy about it, except maybe for the Air Force.
01:37:50.000On the other hand, it seems at this point, To really be a reckless scheme, because so much has come out about the behavior of the Bush regime.
01:38:08.000The fact that we were completely deceived, that they lied about all the so-called evidence leading into Iraq.
01:38:16.000You know, we've had the book by the former White House press spokesman.
01:38:20.000We've had the Rockefeller Committee's reports.
01:38:25.000On how all the intelligence was misrepresented and fabricated by Bush and indeed every high official in his government.
01:38:34.000And so for them, in the face of all of this, in the face of European opposition, apparently even in the face of Arab opposition of our own puppet states like Saudi Arabia and Egypt,
01:38:55.000If they attack it, Iran, it will really be reckless and I would assume if they go ahead with such absence of support everywhere that they intend for the Iranian response to sink our aircraft carriers or do something dramatic that everybody gets so mad
01:39:25.000and scared and all the rest about that we use nuclear weapons.
01:39:33.000The sort of notion we're going to do some kind of surgical attack on their nuclear reactors seems to me to be far-fetched because the damage that would be done, it would be small compared to the risk of the retaliation, if they actually can close the Strait of Hormuz and stop oil flows.
01:40:00.000If they actually can sink those carriers, which apparently they can do.
01:40:06.000If they actually can hit the Idril itself with those longer range missiles.
01:40:17.000As the Arabs themselves predict, it would cause an uproar throughout the Middle East that maybe cause even the Milwaukee puppet regime in Iraq to turn against us.
01:40:32.000And they're also, Iran has said they're going to attack with a Blitzkrieg military-style attack into Iraq.
01:40:38.000They've said they're going to block the strait there with a bunch of sunken ships.
01:40:45.000They're saying, and of course the military, let's get this on the record now, the Navy and Admiral Fallon and others have said they've been ordered to put the ships way, way too close to Iran and there's no reason to even do that.
01:40:58.000We're talking 20, 30 more minutes of flying time to make the aircraft carriers be safe.
01:41:04.000The Bush administration is knowingly sticking them right up there, inviting the Iranians to blow it to kingdom come, and a large segment of the population that is dim-witted, to say the least, psychologically scarred, will see that as an attack by Iran, when Iran has, under international law, the right to fight back and defend itself.
01:41:27.000And what concerns me, Dr. Roberts, I want to get your take on this.
01:41:31.000is, A, the ships, why they knowingly have them up so close under orders, and I mean, that's clear evidence of treason right there by the executive branch.
01:41:40.000But secondarily, I've seen Times of London and U.S.
01:41:44.000newspapers all saying they bought monkeys for bioweapons.
01:41:54.000I mean, just the same lies that we heard with Iraq, I'm seeing the exact same script, just changing that last letter from Iraq to Iran.
01:42:05.000And it's like a dream world we're walking through.
01:42:09.000Ron Paul said that on the show last week, like you can't believe it's happening, but it appears they're just going to do it come hell or high water.
01:42:16.000Well, that certainly seemed to be the case.
01:42:23.000And the only reason I can see they would want to do all this would be so they could use nuclear weapons.
01:42:29.000You know, sometime back, I came to the conclusion, I don't remember if it was 06 or 07, that they had learned, the neoconservative Brownshirts and the Brownshirt Bush regime had learned that they cannot dominate the Middle East with conventional weapons.
01:42:49.000And so that they came to the conclusion that they would have to nuke The Muslims, because then the Muslims would realize that terrorism and guerrilla warfare, fourth generation warfare, is not an effective response to nuclear weapons.
01:43:08.000So, that's the conclusion the neocon grounds for.
01:43:13.000Exactly, but the analysts are saying it will turn the whole West, the whole world further against this, will cause domestic resistance, and I guess that's their excuse to crack down domestically.
01:43:24.000It appears then this is a going for broke.
01:43:28.000Well, it doesn't make any sense because We have nothing to gain by it.
01:43:33.000I mean, there's nothing that we gain by it.
01:43:36.000I'm absolutely convinced the Bush regime knows that Iran doesn't have any nuclear weapons.
01:43:41.000The International Atomic Energy Agency keeps telling them that over and over and over.
01:43:46.000Furthermore, it wouldn't make any difference if they had nuclear weapons.
01:43:49.000A lot of people have nuclear weapons that are far greater potential threats to the United States than Iran could ever be.
01:44:10.000China and Russia, I mean, and yet what we're doing provokes China and Russia because China relies, has huge energy investments in Iran and relies on that as a source of energy and any nuclear Fallout would probably spread over Russian territory.
01:44:34.000And so, it makes, and there's nothing in it for us.
01:44:39.000It's not like we gain anything from doing this.
01:44:43.000And that's why it makes no sense to me.
01:44:47.000And I don't, there's not really any support for it.
01:44:51.000I mean, maybe some of the crazies in Congress, But I don't think it's such an isolated and evil act that it's hard to see what the advantage is.
01:45:05.000But torture is evil and there's no advantage unless it means terrorizing the people of the West, creating fear.
01:45:11.000Yeah, I agree with that, Alex, but the consequences of an individual case of torture is not the same as attacking Iran and provoking.
01:45:20.000And then going into a nuclear type You know, if we drop nuclear bombs on them, what's the... I mean, Japan, just think what it... reawakens in Japan, because we nuked two of their cities for no reason whatsoever.
01:45:35.000And basically they were war crimes directed against civilian population.
01:46:07.000It'll leave us even more hated and isolated and there's no advantage.
01:46:12.000I mean, you'd have to be not only insane, but you'd have to have a moronic IQ.
01:46:21.000to see Iran as a threat to America, that somehow they were a threat to us.
01:46:28.000Even if they had nuclear weapons, they're not a threat to us.
01:46:32.000You know, Iran has not attacked anybody, and God knows when.
01:46:36.000And by the way, Doctor, that was my next question.
01:46:37.000As you know, for five years, Cy Hirsch has reported, the White House admits, they've got four different Wahhabist groups, which they have called Al-Qaeda, attacking Iran, blowing up school buses, mosques, and the Iranians are suing the U.S.
01:46:54.000I mean, we're attacking them every week with terror attacks, and they're laying there taking it.
01:47:02.000Well, it's obvious that they don't want the conflict, and it's hard to see any reason for this, or anybody gaining from this, because the consequences for the United States are all so terribly adverse, and there's nothing good for us.
01:48:04.000I mean, we buy leaders, and we buy them and get them to make these statements and all, but there's not any support for us, our attack on Iran.
01:48:16.000There's no support for our wars in Iraq, none for our wars in Afghanistan, none for our wars in Africa.
01:48:28.000Alex, I mean, maybe they want to use it to Clamp down here and have a police state and arrest you and me and a lot of other people to put in those Halliburtonville camps.
01:48:41.000If you analyze it and you read their strategy of tension and you read their plan, what Bush calls Order Out of Chaos, it is just get us into an all-out economic collapse in the middle of a war so people will rally around the flag and the real target This is what Ray McGovern's finally saying.
01:49:01.000Ron Paul's saying it too, and I guess you're now saying that, that we're the real target in all of this so they can loot here.
01:49:08.000This is about them thinking that we will rally behind the flag if we see a smoking fleet Well, I've been writing about the police state like you've been talking about it and I can't dispute that we might be running that type of risk.
01:49:22.000Coast to coast are doing warrantless blood taking on the side of the road.
01:49:25.000They're doing it right here in Austin.
01:49:30.000Well, I've been writing about the police state like you've been talking about it, and I can't dispute that we might be running that type of risk.
01:49:41.000I'm not sure how the population will take it, I'm not sure either how the United States government would be able to finance its operations under such circumstances.
01:50:02.000I've analyzed it, not that I'm some expert, but I've talked to other experts who have been involved in this in third world countries, running these operations, and they say that it isn't going to work.
01:50:13.000That maybe in a place where there's already warlords, they can pay off different ones to fight with each other and control factions that way, but they're saying the way the U.S.
01:50:23.000has laid out That if they're really planning to go into a hot type of martial law, that the central government is going to collapse.
01:50:29.000I mean, hell, I'm sure you saw it today.
01:50:31.000Congress now has a 9% approval rating?
01:51:50.000I just don't think anybody's going to rally around Bush.
01:51:55.000But they might around a new puppet like Obama.
01:51:59.000Dr. Roberts, I want to, just out of the gates here, because we don't have much time left with you, I want to get your take on, we've got Obama, we've got McCain, I mean, we know Obama's bought and paid for by some of the same interests.
01:52:16.000I have the Ross Mucin reports, respected polls.
01:52:21.000The percentage of voters who give Congress good or excellent ratings has fallen to the single digits for the first time.
01:52:26.000In history this month say just 9% is doing a good job, and the vast majority say they're doing a bad job.
01:52:34.000I mean, if the government's fully discredited, the police are discredited, they're believing their own Kool-Aid they're drinking, but the public isn't, they know the illegal aliens are above the law, they know corrupt police are above the law, they know politicians are above the law.
01:52:56.000And I think we could possibly have a little hope, at least, that things will slow down in the directions which they're going.
01:53:07.000You know, Obama, he probably will talk a bit different, and just the fact that he talks different gives more cover to the cowards in Congress, especially among the Democrats.
01:53:25.000You could actually see a substantial change in behavior in Washington.
01:53:37.000As long as the President is talking war, war, terrorists, blah, blah, it's hard for people in Congress to get on the wrong side of that.
01:54:49.000As you know, we have this recession that's induced by the
01:54:54.000uh... inability to keep the economy going any further on the build-up of debt and uh... uh... and but but that's not the main problem the main problem is we have destroyed the uh... uh... the infrastructure that produced good jobs for americans and no more good jobs they're off shored I saw the other day where all the automobile producers were closing their design studios in
01:55:24.000California, they're all now offshore as well.
01:55:27.000When you lose manufacturing, you lose research, development, design, you lose everything.
01:55:32.000So all of the kind of jobs that we had people go to universities to do, they're gone.
01:55:37.000And so the economy can't recover from that.
01:55:41.000It's on its way to India of 20 years ago, where you have nothing but domestic service jobs.
01:55:51.000And you have lawyers driving cabs and engineers driving cabs and working as barmen and that type of thing.
01:56:00.000So I think they have pretty much ruined the outlook for Americans who used to Look to getting ahead in life, at least somewhat.
01:56:15.000But that sure makes it cheap for multinationals to come in and buy up what's left.
01:56:19.000In closing, is there any way to reverse this?
01:56:23.000Not with the kind of leadership that we have in Washington or produce.
01:56:28.000Not with the kind of disinformation that people continually fall for.
01:56:34.000So I think we're going to have some pretty rough times.
01:56:41.000As I say in this book of mine that's come out in the second edition, Tyranny of Good and Tensions, what we've really lost is the constitutional protections of our civil liberties.
01:56:52.000And this is far more deadly than the loss of jobs, the loss of the economy.
01:56:58.000We simply no longer have The protection of law.
01:58:27.000And I really think they're getting shot down and I see a light.
01:58:32.000Now, we don't know if it's a train about to run over us or the end of the tunnel, but thanks to you and others.
01:58:37.000I don't... I mean, in a way, we can just hope we fall into a third world instead of total, glistening, slick fascism.
01:58:44.000I mean, I kind of just hope we collapse like the Soviet Union instead of, you know, morphing into something, you know, that is mechanized and focused and evil.
01:58:55.000I mean, I kind of now do finally in my life see a lesser of two evils.
01:58:59.000Do you... I mean, do you kind of get the point I'm making?
02:00:10.000I mean, this is... I talk to congressmen, I talk to people like Dr. Roberts, I talk to foreign ministers, and they are all just... My God, what are we going to do?
02:00:35.000I mean, it's hard to believe this stuff.
02:00:37.000It's hard to believe our government orders the military to rape children in front of their families.
02:00:41.000I mean, what in the world is going on here?
02:00:45.000And then I'm the radical because I'm against it.
02:00:48.000Okay, we're going to go back live now to the main transmission.
02:00:51.000And I want to, one more time for people, play the clip of Australian news with the attempted nerve gassing of their troops by their own government.
02:03:47.000And his wife kept saying it stunk down there in the basement, but she was so blown away when she found out he was raping and torturing people to death.
02:03:54.000It's the same thing over and over again.
02:03:56.000If you'd have walked up to John Wayne Gacy, Miss Gacy, and said, Miss Gacy, he is killing people down there.
02:05:01.000We got enemies inside the gate, trying to open the gate for them, and then the public's walking around in la-la land, and I mean, you know, telling me, well, we want solutions.
02:05:09.000Hell, man, it's not my job to give you solutions.
02:05:12.000You know what, we do try to give you a lot.
02:05:14.000We're just here letting you know, you know, hey, red alert, we're under attack.
02:05:19.000I've got another clip I've got to play.
02:06:56.000You understand I've got the documents, the facts, the eyewitnesses.
02:06:59.000I have seen the dead bodies in John Wayne Gacy's basement.
02:07:02.000So don't you tell me they're not there!
02:07:04.000You go in there and you look for yourself and you look at those maggot-covered corpses instead of telling me I shouldn't get upset about it!
02:07:14.000I'm not risking my life to play games!
02:07:18.000I want to play the Declaration of Independence, and it's got the actor introducing it, and I agree with him that it's the ideal that's so beautiful, that's inspired so many things.
02:07:27.000Let's go ahead and play it, and we'll come back and play the rest of it.
02:07:31.000A group of politicians from the 13 American colonies come together in this building, right here, to plot what turns out to be a revolution.
02:07:42.000A contentious Continental Congress needs to set forth some convincing reasons for declaring war.
02:07:49.000Congress turns to a brilliant 33-year-old aristocrat from Virginia, Thomas Jefferson.
02:07:55.000In a matter of days, the red-haired wonder writes one of the most celebrated manifestos for human freedom and self-government in the history of Western civilization.
02:08:07.000The Continental Congress authorizes Philadelphia printer John Dunlap to print 200 broadsides, poster-sized sheets.
02:08:16.000The document, unsigned, is then rushed to waiting horsemen who put it in their saddlebags and galloped throughout the colonies.
02:08:25.000See, if this Revolutionary War is to be won, thousands of farmers and tradesmen must be persuaded to take up arms and fight.
02:09:02.000Thomas Jefferson was not ignorant of the problem of slavery, of course.
02:09:06.000He called it a moral and political depravity.
02:09:09.000And in the original draft of the Declaration denounced the slave trade, As a cruel war against human nature itself.
02:09:18.000But Congress thought better of this particular item, and deleted it.
02:09:24.000In fact, there was no mention of slavery, or black people, or of women for that matter, in this preeminent statement on the equal rights of man.
02:09:34.000So it makes you wonder, how could a man who himself held slaves, Write with such incredible passion and eloquence about human liberation and the promise of a democratic republic.
02:09:48.000Why, some may ask, do I bring up such embarrassing truths on this glorious occasion?
02:09:57.000The real glory of the Declaration of Independence has been our nation's epic struggle throughout history to close the gap between the ideals of this remarkable document And the sometimes painful realities of American life.
02:10:13.000The Declaration symbolizes the birth of our nation, of course, but also the constant struggle to achieve its ideals.
02:10:25.000The words of this document inspired the French Revolution in 1789.
02:10:31.000200 years later, the revolt of Chinese students in Tiananmen Square.
02:10:36.000It inspired Abraham Lincoln to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, Martin Luther King Jr.
02:10:41.000to fight for civil rights, and women's suffragettes to fight for the vote.
02:10:48.000This business of fulfilling the Declaration of Independence is a difficult struggle, but it is also an ennobling struggle.
02:10:58.000Jefferson called the Declaration an expression of the American mind.
02:11:04.000It is why this nation is so great and why I am so proud to be an American.
02:11:11.000Here now are those sentiments as first expressed in this very place.
02:11:21.000When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth The separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitled them.
02:11:41.000A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
02:11:50.000We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
02:12:03.000That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
02:12:11.000That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government.
02:12:21.000Laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form as to them, shall seem most likely to affect their safety and happiness.
02:12:32.000Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes.
02:12:38.000And accordingly, all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
02:12:50.000But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism.
02:13:02.000It is their duty to throw off such government and to provide new guards for their future security.
02:13:10.000Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.
02:13:21.000The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations.
02:13:28.000All having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states.
02:13:34.000To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
02:13:39.000He has refused his assent to laws the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
02:13:44.000He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained.
02:13:53.000And when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
02:13:57.000He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable only to tyrants.
02:14:11.000He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
02:14:25.000He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
02:14:31.000He has refused for a long time after such dissolutions to cause others to be elected.
02:14:38.000Whereby the legislative powers incapable of annihilation have returned to the people at large for their exercise.
02:14:45.000The state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without and convulsions within.
02:14:53.000He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states.
02:14:57.000For that purpose, obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners, refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
02:15:09.000He has obstructed the administration of justice by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
02:15:17.000He has made judges dependent on his will alone for the tenure of their offices and the amount and payment of their salaries.
02:15:24.000He has erected a multitude of new offices and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
02:15:32.000He has kept among us in times of peace standing armies without the consent of our legislatures.
02:15:38.000He has effected to render the military independent of and superior to the civil power.
02:15:44.000He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws.
02:15:53.000Giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation.
02:15:57.000For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us.
02:16:00.000For protecting them by a mock trial from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states.
02:16:08.000For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world.
02:16:11.000For imposing taxes on us without our consent.
02:16:14.000For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of trial by jury.
02:16:24.000For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province.
02:16:28.000Establishing therein an arbitrary government and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these colonies.
02:16:42.000For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments.
02:16:49.000For suspending our own legislatures and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
02:16:59.000He has abdicated government here by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
02:17:06.000He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
02:17:12.000He is, at this time, transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation, and tyranny.
02:17:22.000Already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy.
02:17:25.000Scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages.
02:17:28.000And totally unworthy of the head of a civilized nation.
02:17:31.000He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas.
02:17:45.000He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us.
02:17:48.000and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes, and conditions.
02:18:07.000I'm going to come back and play the rest on the other side, but yeah, they would grab people for the draft, okay?
02:18:13.000They would grab them out of the seaports and off the boats, and that's what the draft is, which are drafting soldiers that have already been in.
02:18:22.000And when you go through that, they're doing every single thing, asset forfeiture, seizure, grabbing people's goods, saying they were criminals.
02:18:30.000You know, swarms of new agents to eat out our substance.
02:18:33.000You know, these administrative offices.
02:19:11.000Well, the floods in the heartland of America have all but assured this will happen.
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02:24:22.000A prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
02:24:31.000Nor have we been wanting in attentions to our British brethren.
02:24:34.000We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us.
02:24:41.000We have reminded them of the circumstances of our immigration and settlement here.
02:24:45.000We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity.
02:24:48.000And we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence.
02:24:57.000They too have been deft to the voice of justice and of consanguinity.
02:25:02.000We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace, friends.
02:25:14.000We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress assembled, Appealing to the supreme judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do in the name and by authority of the good people of these colonies solemnly publish and declare that these united colonies are and of right ought to be free and independent states.
02:25:41.000That they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown.
02:25:45.000And that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved.
02:25:52.000And that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce.
02:26:02.000And to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do.
02:26:08.000And for the support of this declaration, Absolutely beautiful, folks.
02:26:29.000That's all she wrote for this transmission.